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BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:34 AM
Tommorrow!!!

Godzilla2000
05-04-2012, 05:35 AM
I also liked how everytime Thor got hit in the movie,he barely felt the blow.

Well, he is an Asgardian. I think maybe only Loki could really hurt him physically. Of course my amusing thought is how much that would psyche out even the toughest of the villains in the comic world who are abnormally strong, but still human.

Lady Marion
05-04-2012, 05:35 AM
Enjoy and have fun! :thor:

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:37 AM
Well, he is an Asgardian. I think maybe only Loki could really hurt him physically. Of course my amusing thought is how much that would psyche out even the toughest of the villains in the comic world who are abnormally strong, but still human.

Ummmm...you can't forget about Hulk :cmad:

Enjoy and have fun! :thor:

Thanks and I'm sure I will :up:

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 05:39 AM
Well, he is an Asgardian. I think maybe only Loki could really hurt him physically. Of course my amusing thought is how much that would psyche out even the toughest of the villains in the comic world who are abnormally strong, but still human.

I know,but I also know they often tend to forget these little details in movies like this.

Avenger
05-04-2012, 05:41 AM
I know,but I also know they often tend to forget these little details in movies like this.If this were being done by Fox, Iron Man would have hogged the majority of the screen time and he would have kicked Thor's butt. :whatever:

Thank goodness we've got people who actually understand the source material working on TA.

Godzilla2000
05-04-2012, 05:45 AM
If this were being done by Fox, Iron Man would have hogged the majority of the screen time and he would have kicked Thor's butt. :whatever:

Thank goodness we've got people who actually understand the source material working on TA.

I guess considering how other companies Marvel farmed their properties out to abused the characters they are completely cognizant of who they hire to bring their own movies to the screen. With movies there is wiggle room for creative license while still paying homage to the comicbook roots of the characters, sometimes the variations are subtle improvements over the source material in special cases.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 05:49 AM
Can I be honest? This film needed more Thor. It just did. It's so funny people comparing the climax of this picture to Transformers 3. It compares in this way as well; when Agent Simmons of former Sector 7 shows up at the 53 minute mark of that film, the film, all of sudden, perked up and got somewhat good. It's still not very good but Tuturro elevated the moment he gets on screen.

It's the same thing with Hemsworth. He literally drops from the sky and the film started working better. And his scene with Loki on the mountain? I wanted more of that in the film because it needed more of that from all angles. That's one of the best if not the best scenes in the film. Hemsworth and Hiddleston killed that scene. Add a small Jane and Thor reunion in this film and I probably would've given this film higher marks.

And, is it me, or was Thor's everyone's punching bag in this? I'm not quite sure I liked that. I felt that de-powered him down somewhat, even though his action beats were far better in this film than his own.

I don't know. I just think it needed more of Thor Odinson....

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 05:50 AM
If this were being done by Fox, Iron Man would have hogged the majority of the screen time and he would have kicked Thor's butt. :whatever:

Thank goodness we've got people who actually understand the source material working on TA.

Exactly,this is the reason why I want proper X-Men and FF movies by Marvel Studios,even if it seems impossible right now.:csad:

SimiOfDoom
05-04-2012, 05:57 AM
Can I be honest? This film needed more Thor. It just did. It's so funny people comparing the climax of this picture to Transformers 3. It compares in this way as well; when Agent Simmons of former Sector 7 shows up at the 53 minute mark of that film, the film, all of sudden, perked up and got somewhat good. It's still not very good but Tuturro elevated the moment he gets on screen.

It's the same thing with Hemsworth. He literally drops from the sky and the film started working better. And his scene with Loki on the mountain? I wanted more of that in the film because it needed more of that from all angles. That's one of the best if not the best scenes in the film. Hemsworth and Hiddleston killed that scene. Add a small Jane and Thor reunion in this film and I probably would've given this film higher marks.

And, is it me, or was Thor's everyone's punching bag in this? I'm not quite sure I liked that. I felt that de-powered him down somewhat, even though his action beats were far better in this film than his own.

I don't know. I just think it needed more of Thor Odinson....


Exactly! More non-fighting character interactions would have been the cherry on top, because Whedon´s feeling for the characters is so good.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:02 AM
If this were being done by Fox, Iron Man would have hogged the majority of the screen time and he would have kicked Thor's butt. :whatever:

Thank goodness we've got people who actually understand the source material working on TA.

I can't say I'm a cyclops fan but he got the shaft in the x-men movie. the guy is supposed to be xavier's go to go, the leader, and he gets a couple of scenes in each movie. if whedon had done that to thor I would have hunted him down.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:03 AM
Exactly,this is the reason why I want proper X-Men and FF movies by Marvel Studios,even if it seems impossible right now.:csad:


to be fair in FF, each of them get their moment to shine as it's only 4 of them, the problem is the script is a disgrace.

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 06:06 AM
^Yeah I agree but I was talking about the overall quality of the film.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:10 AM
Exactly! More non-fighting character interactions would have been the cherry on top, because Whedon´s feeling for the characters is so good.

The fighting was organic to the story so that wasn't really a problem. It's just there were missed opportunities for characterization.

When Thor arrives, I sort of feel that Thor should've been driving the story more because of his intimate knowledge of not only the Tessaract but of his brother. It's there but it's really not enough.

It's the same with Captain America. Frankly, how we emotionally left him at the end of his film was not properly addressed at all in this film. At all.

Avenger
05-04-2012, 06:13 AM
I can't say I'm a cyclops fan but he got the shaft in the x-men movie. the guy is supposed to be xavier's go to go, the leader, and he gets a couple of scenes in each movie. if whedon had done that to thor I would have hunted him down.Cyclops is my favorite X-Man (I don't read the current ongoing issues, so I pretend that the jerk they've turned Cyke into doesn't exist :oldrazz:), so I'm sure you can imagine how annoyed I was by the X-movies. :funny:

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:15 AM
Cyclops is my favorite X-Man (I don't read the current ongoing issues, so I pretend that the jerk they've turned Cyke into doesn't exist :oldrazz:), so I'm sure you can imagine how annoyed I was by the X-movies. :funny:

for me X2 is a great movie but not a great 'X-MEN' movie. if that makes sense?

Avenger
05-04-2012, 06:17 AM
Yeah, and I think I'd agree with you on that. I really did like X2 despite Cyclops's miniscule role, but it wasn't really an "X-Men movie" to me. IMO, First Class is the closest any of them has come to being a proper "X-Men movie" and it still wasn't quite there.

DarthSkywalker
05-04-2012, 06:17 AM
The fighting was organic to the story so that wasn't really a problem. It's just there were missed opportunities for characterization.

When Thor arrives, I sort of feel that Thor should've been driving the story more because of his intimate knowledge of not only the Tessaract but of his brother. It's there but it's really not enough.

It's the same with Captain America. Frankly, how we emotionally left him at the end of his film was not properly addressed at all in this film. At all.

That is my one fear for this film. There are clear character and plot threads left over from the last 2 Marvel films and I don't want them simply glossed over.

Some have said "Well that is what their next solo films are for". I don't agree with that. This is the next story in their timeline. What happened at the end of their first solo films was major.

Cap is 70 years in the future. Thor wasn't able to get back to Earth because of what happened to the bifrost. He made a huge sacrifice to cut off himself from the woman he cares for to save his enemies. But now he is just back? We are dealing with Thor's brother and a weapon his family should have vast knowledge of.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:18 AM
I really enjoyed the avengers but for the sequel whedon has to bring the peril. you have to feel (even if it's for a moment) that they can't win this.
in T2 when they freeze the t-1000 and he starts to reform I remember as a kid in cinema thinking 'how are they going to win this'. you don't get that with avengers but I didn't care because I was having so much fun, now that the novelty of the heroes teaming up is over I'll definately want more drame and suspense in the sequel.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:23 AM
That is my one fear for this film. There are clear character and plot threads left over from the last 2 Marvel films and I don't want them simply glossed over.

Some have said "Well that is what their next solo films are for". I don't agree with that. This is the next story in their timeline. What happened at the end of their first solo films was major.

Cap is 70 years in the future. Thor wasn't able to get back to Earth because of what happened to the bifrost. He made a huge sacrifice to cut off himself from the woman he cares for to save his enemies. But now he is just back? We are dealing with Thor's brother and a weapon his family should have vast knowledge of.

The Thor aspect of the plot threads from his film are not outright bad. It could've been handled more gracefully if we'd seen Odin and Thor in Asgard, seeing what's going on down on Earth and decide to show instead of tell how Thor actually gets there. And again, I think a Jane cameo would've worked wonders.

But, to your point about saving it for the sequel, that's the problem with Captain America. Joss cut out a scene where he goes to see Peggy. THAT NEEDED TO BE IN THIS FILM, PERIOD. The lost 70 years are basically glossed over with pop culture references and 21 Century intelligence he just doesn't know. That's not enough. Plus, there's no question on Rogers part where or not he can be the leader Fury wants needs him to be for the Avengers. He just sort of is because he's a good solider. It doesn't really work. They truncated Rogers in this film.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:24 AM
I really enjoyed the avengers but for the sequel whedon has to bring the peril. you have to feel (even if it's for a moment) that they can't win this.
in T2 when they freeze the t-1000 and he starts to reform I remember as a kid in cinema thinking 'how are they going to win this'. you don't get that with avengers but I didn't care because I was having so much fun, now that the novelty of the heroes teaming up is over I'll definately want more drame and suspense in the sequel.

Bang on.

DarthSkywalker
05-04-2012, 06:26 AM
The Thor aspect of the plot threads from his film are not outright bad. It could've been handled more gracefully if we'd seen Odin and Thor in Asgard, seeing what's going on down on Earth and decide to show instead of tell how Thor actually gets there. And again, I think a Jane cameo would've worked wonders.

But, to your point about saving it for the sequel, that's the problem with Captain America. Joss cut out a scene where he goes to see Peggy. THAT NEEDED TO BE IN THIS FILM, PERIOD. The lost 70 years are basically glossed over with pop culture references and 21 Century intelligence he just doesn't know. That's not enough. They truncated Rogers in this film.

And that is sad when Joss said the film was going to be Cap's perspective.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:27 AM
And that is said when Joss said the film was going to be Cap's perspective.

It's not. Frankly, it's nobody's perspective. It's a true ensemble but even in an ensemble, someone has to drive the film. Nobody does.

It should've been Thor, because this really is the sequel to Thor, just based on plot and character threads.

DarthSkywalker
05-04-2012, 06:30 AM
It's not. Frankly, it's nobody's perspective. It's a true ensemble but even in an ensemble, someone has to drive the film. Nobody does.

It should've been Thor, because this really is the sequel to Thor, just based on plot and character threads.

I thought it had a good chance playing like the first bit of the Ultimates. Being brought into this world alongside Cap.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:34 AM
I thought it had a good chance playing like the first bit of the Ultimates. Being brought into this world alongside Cap.

It plays a tad like that.

DarthSkywalker
05-04-2012, 06:37 AM
Question about Thor. Does he just stand around most of the time while the others discuss what he should have knowledge of?

irapogi
05-04-2012, 06:40 AM
“You take the world as recompense for your imagined slight” - Thor

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:44 AM
Question about Thor. Does he just stand around most of the time while the others discuss what he should have knowledge of?

Sometimes, yes. He's a supporting character.

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:45 AM
“You take the world as recompense for your imagined slight” - Thor

That was a great line...

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:46 AM
“You take the world as recompense for your imagined slight” - Thor


great line. made all the more powerful when he tells loki to 'come home'.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 06:47 AM
Can I be honest? This film needed more Thor. It just did. It's so funny people comparing the climax of this picture to Transformers 3. It compares in this way as well; when Agent Simmons of former Sector 7 shows up at the 53 minute mark of that film, the film, all of sudden, perked up and got somewhat good. It's still not very good but Tuturro elevated the moment he gets on screen.

It's the same thing with Hemsworth. He literally drops from the sky and the film started working better. And his scene with Loki on the mountain? I wanted more of that in the film because it needed more of that from all angles. That's one of the best if not the best scenes in the film. Hemsworth and Hiddleston killed that scene. Add a small Jane and Thor reunion in this film and I probably would've given this film higher marks.

And, is it me, or was Thor's everyone's punching bag in this? I'm not quite sure I liked that. I felt that de-powered him down somewhat, even though his action beats were far better in this film than his own.

I don't know. I just think it needed more of Thor Odinson....
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the movie needed more of him, but I do think that more of him could have made it even better from a fan's perspective (where movie length isn't as much of an issue). Cap could have gotten a little more time as well. Perhaps that's all in the 30 minutes of deleted scenes that will be on the blu-ray?

I don't think he looked weak at all though. An Iron Man that's 4-5 times stronger than normal couldn't make a scratch on him. He fought a decently close fight with a completely raging Hulk while not wanting to really hurt him, nor using his entire power set. In the last fight Thor is the one that does the most damage to the alien army, basically destroying an entire wave in one blow. People seem to forget that just because that Hulk got some more screen time there.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:47 AM
the second cut scene is funny but what would have made for a great cutscene would be loki tied down and a giant serpent dripping venom into his eyes. that would be far more haunting and iconic

J.Howlett
05-04-2012, 06:48 AM
God, they missed some opportunities between Thor and Loki in this film. It would've made Thor's film even stronger had there just been a bit more.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 06:49 AM
great line. made all the more powerful when he tells loki to 'come home'.
Yes, in my opinion that scene brought the best drama in the film and left me longing for Thor 2.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 06:52 AM
Yes, in my opinion that scene brought the best drama in the film and left me longing for Thor 2.

as long as it's set on asgard then I agree.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 06:55 AM
as long as it's set on asgard then I agree.
I don't think it will be set purely in Asgard but I think the focus of the film will lie on other realms than Midgard since Feige has said many times that they want to bring something new with every Marvel film.

Lady Marion
05-04-2012, 06:57 AM
“You take the world as recompense for your imagined slight” - Thor

great line. made all the more powerful when he tells loki to 'come home'.

The whole scene I had the feeling Thor doesn't know if he should hug Loki because he's alive or he should beat out the crap of him because he's doing such BS.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 07:00 AM
I don't think it will be set purely in Asgard but I think the focus of the film will lie on other realms than Midgard since Feige has said many times that they constantly want to bring something new.

well I'm hoping that it is (set entirely on asgard). if marvel read reviews they would see that one of the main gripes in reviews was the movie ground to a halt on earth.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 07:05 AM
well I'm hoping that it is (set entirely on asgard). if marvel read reviews they would see that one of the main gripes in reviews was the movie ground to a halt on earth.
I've read quite a few opinions that the part on Earth was the best too. But I don't think that Thor travelling to the other parts of the nine realms will slow down the tempo since those visits should be vastly different than his exile. If anything I'd say that time spent in Asgard seems more likely to bring the drama, while the other realms will bring the action.

But we'll see. They have said that they will surprise us with IM3 and Thor 2.

Splat
05-04-2012, 07:07 AM
God, they missed some opportunities between Thor and Loki in this film. It would've made Thor's film even stronger had there just been a bit more.

Joss did have to cut a lot from the movie, maybe we'll get more Thor & Loki in the deleted scenes on the bluray.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 07:12 AM
It's a shame that we probably won't get it as an extended cut. Even if the deleted scenes don't make the movie better I'd still like the opportunity to see it as a whole.

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 07:13 AM
He chose to cut everything that was cut,he said that this was his director's cut.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 07:32 AM
He chose to cut everything that was cut,he said that this was his director's cut.
That's why I said "extended cut". ;)

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 08:15 AM
That's why I said "extended cut". ;)

wont happen. they didn't do one for TIH and there was an hour of deleted scenes.

Rock Sexton
05-04-2012, 08:15 AM
The whole scene I had the feeling Thor doesn't know if he should hug Loki because he's alive or he should beat out the crap of him because he's doing such BS.

Ya, loved the way he was gripping the side of Loki's face as if he didn't know whether to embrace it or crush it.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 08:19 AM
one thing I forgot to mention is I absolutely LOVE the sound the hammer makes when thor is spinning it before take off. almost helicopter-esque

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 08:29 AM
wont happen. they didn't do one for TIH and there was an hour of deleted scenes.
Yes, that's what I said, that it's a shame that it probably won't happen. The only thing speaking for it is if they release such a version later on to cash in again on their biggest film, which is still very unlikely.

tek
05-04-2012, 08:38 AM
disagree with the idea that thor and loki should have had more scenes together. Perfect balance and leaves u wanting more. Great setup for thor 2. Also Hemsworth said none of his scenes were cut . also love that first scene with loki and thor. fantastic emotion from hemsworth

Oruku Saki
05-04-2012, 09:05 AM
"You really think this madness will end with your rule?!"

Oruku Saki
05-04-2012, 09:07 AM
I like how Thor deduced pretty quickly that Loki was working for someone else in the mountain scene...funny that he didn't mention his thoughts to anyone else though about a higher power at work behind Loki

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 09:12 AM
That's why I said "extended cut". ;)

Yes but I wasn't responding to your post,we were writing at the same time. :)

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 09:21 AM
Yes but I wasn't responding to your post,we were writing at the same time. :)
Ah, sorry about that then. The timing fooled me. :)

TTFN
05-04-2012, 09:22 AM
The Thor aspect of the plot threads from his film are not outright bad. It could've been handled more gracefully if we'd seen Odin and Thor in Asgard, seeing what's going on down on Earth and decide to show instead of tell how Thor actually gets there. And again, I think a Jane cameo would've worked wonders.

But, to your point about saving it for the sequel, that's the problem with Captain America. Joss cut out a scene where he goes to see Peggy. THAT NEEDED TO BE IN THIS FILM, PERIOD. The lost 70 years are basically glossed over with pop culture references and 21 Century intelligence he just doesn't know. That's not enough. Plus, there's no question on Rogers part where or not he can be the leader Fury wants needs him to be for the Avengers. He just sort of is because he's a good solider. It doesn't really work. They
truncated Rogers in this film.

Whedon was asked if he wanted to have a Jane cameo and he said (paraphrasing)...sure, then the writer of Thor 2 would trowel me. They are leaving her and their first meeting since he destroyed the bifrost to Thor 2 which I get as it's pretty important with how Thor left off. The only reason Pepper was even in TA was because RDJ told them she should be since they had began their relationship at the end of IM2. I imagine Cap will have the same sort of thing in his sequel.

To be honest, I'm shocked they had a Jane mention at all but thankful since I like her. :)

ETA Feige said he wanted this film to be like summer camp for the heroes. He wanted to be able to have them do this movie and touch very little in the going ons of their solo films. When you know that, it makes more sense that the only continuing factor really is Thor vs. Loki and even then it isn't touched on a ton since they are again saving the emotional stuff for Thor 2.

Oruku Saki
05-04-2012, 09:24 AM
Not sure why there is an issue with Jane...she was mentioned in a scene...not to mention this movie basically took place over less than 36 hours...which basically means the heroes had zero time to do anything but deal with Loki

Lady Marion
05-04-2012, 09:38 AM
disagree with the idea that thor and loki should have had more scenes together. Perfect balance and leaves u wanting more. Great setup for thor 2. Also Hemsworth said none of his scenes were cut . also love that first scene with loki and thor. fantastic emotion from hemsworth

Completely agree with this. Hemsworth did a great job.

Another point: After their fight on top of Stark tower after Loki jumped down it seem that Thor gives up changing Lokis mind. Thor looks totally devastated that Loki harmed him again. After the last hope is gone. Then he joins completely to his new friends. After that you see no brotherly love anymore. When they leave Thor looks stonecold at Loki and leads him away as prisoner.

It will be interesting to see how it will be continued in Thor 2

"_____"
05-04-2012, 09:41 AM
I didnt mind the fact that Thor was all of a sudden there... felt like something you'd actually see in the comic... Thor just showing up.... not everything needs to be explained... at least thats how i feel

SimiOfDoom
05-04-2012, 09:52 AM
The way how Thor just kind of dropped from the sky was a suprise for the audience as much as for the characters, I kinda liked that.

Bren
05-04-2012, 12:24 PM
one thing I forgot to mention is I absolutely LOVE the sound the hammer makes when thor is spinning it before take off. almost helicopter-esque

Aye, me too :up:!

darkslayer101
05-04-2012, 12:52 PM
Completely agree with this. Hemsworth did a great job.

Another point: After their fight on top of Stark tower after Loki jumped down it seem that Thor gives up changing Lokis mind. Thor looks totally devastated that Loki harmed him again. After the last hope is gone. Then he joins completely to his new friends. After that you see no brotherly love anymore. When they leave Thor looks stonecold at Loki and leads him away as prisoner.

It will be interesting to see how it will be continued in Thor 2

i agree especially the scene where coulson is stabbed and the camera pans to thor's eyes, u can see the sadness and anger, for me thats the moment thor gave up on loki

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 01:15 PM
i agree especially the scene where coulson is stabbed and the camera pans to thor's eyes, u can see the sadness and anger, for me thats the moment thor gave up on loki

the scene before that had the classic line


are you ever not going to fall for that?


that line is even funnier if you've seen the thor movie

04nbod
05-04-2012, 01:32 PM
The fighting was organic to the story so that wasn't really a problem. It's just there were missed opportunities for characterization.

When Thor arrives, I sort of feel that Thor should've been driving the story more because of his intimate knowledge of not only the Tessaract but of his brother. It's there but it's really not enough.

It's the same with Captain America. Frankly, how we emotionally left him at the end of his film was not properly addressed at all in this film. At all.

But with Cap at least you have the tension with Tony that was played up in the movie.

You come out of this and you ask yourself, who did Thor as a character bond with or riff off in the team and the answer is no one. He punched a lot of them but at the end we are given no reason why he would want to join the team. He comes to Earth for Loki, he gets Loki and he leaves. The parts that worked for Thor worked because it built on 'Thor''s emotional continuity. Thor doesn't even get a line to Selvig.

Not sure why there is an issue with Jane...she was mentioned in a scene...not to mention this movie basically took place over less than 36 hours...which basically means the heroes had zero time to do anything but deal with Loki

Yes, the awkward set photo and Coulson's 'A french ballet dancer knocked your girlfriend up' speech was enough. :cwink:

Figs
05-04-2012, 02:18 PM
I take it most if not all of you hardcore Thor fans were happy as **** to see Hulk not being able to lift Mjolnir.

I just remember back to all the arguments people were having about the possibilities of that fight.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 02:21 PM
I take it most if not all of you hardcore Thor fans were happy as **** to see Hulk not being able to lift Mjolnir.

I just remember back to all the arguments people were having about the possibilities of that fight.
Yes, I had hoped that would be in the film and it was done very nicely.

Endeavor
05-04-2012, 02:22 PM
I completely understand that hardcore Thor fans might have been happier with more of him. But honestly, the power levels he displays in this movie are far better than his own solo film. That alone should make you happy... I mean the guy single handedly killed two leviathans and a whole lot of Chitauri in just one blast! Not even Hulk was shown displaying that much power.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 02:23 PM
I completely understand that hardcore Thor fans might have been happier with more of him. But honestly, the power levels he displays in this movie are far better than his own solo film. That alone should make you happy... I mean the guy single handedly killed two leviathans and a whole lot of Chitauri in just one blast! Not even Hulk was shown displaying that much power.
Yes, there's no reason not to be happy with how powerful he seemed. He looked great when he seemed to hold back and does some huge things when pulling out all his power.

I'm fine with what he did in his own movie as well though as it wasn't really about his power but what kind of man he is.

Endeavor
05-04-2012, 02:25 PM
Yeah that's another thing. Some of the scenes that I've seen people complain about, it's pretty obvious he was holding back. Even against Hulk.

Vartha
05-04-2012, 03:42 PM
I completely understand that hardcore Thor fans might have been happier with more of him. But honestly, the power levels he displays in this movie are far better than his own solo film. That alone should make you happy... I mean the guy single handedly killed two leviathans and a whole lot of Chitauri in just one blast! Not even Hulk was shown displaying that much power.Very True And it DID with me.

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 03:48 PM
Ah, sorry about that then. The timing fooled me. :)

No problem pal! :)

Endeavor
05-04-2012, 03:50 PM
Very True And it DID with me.
:woot:
How badly did you geek out? I was told at times I looked like a grinning buffoon.

First Avenger
05-04-2012, 03:50 PM
I completely understand that hardcore Thor fans might have been happier with more of him. But honestly, the power levels he displays in this movie are far better than his own solo film. That alone should make you happy... I mean the guy single handedly killed two leviathans and a whole lot of Chitauri in just one blast! Not even Hulk was shown displaying that much power.

Personally I was completely happy with how joss handled Thor.

Vartha
05-04-2012, 04:20 PM
:woot:
How badly did you geek out? I was told at times I looked like a grinning buffoon.lol Not sure really, tho in FRONT of the other Guards I know we were a bit geeky. tho IN the theaters doin our jobs we weren't as bad. lol We did have to do our jobs and watch the crowds who by the way all Reacted the right way watching the whole thing

Vartha
05-04-2012, 04:26 PM
I did Catch myself trying to explain that Ending credit and the Gauntlet that never appeared in the Theater lol

MarvelKnight
05-04-2012, 04:28 PM
Just got back from seeing this masterpiece. OH MY GOD.

I thought Thor, from start to finish was great. Using the empire state building as a lightning rod to bolster his attack was amazing. The way he gave Loki that 'Ultimate Warrior' slam, was just absolutely awesome. Everything was amazing. Interested if the consequences of Odin sending Thor to Earth will bear fruit in Thor 2

BigThor
05-04-2012, 04:29 PM
Just got back from seeing it.....

MarvelKnight
05-04-2012, 04:30 PM
Just got back from seeing it.....

AMAZING right? I just got back too (well about an hour ago,had to delay my coming on here)

even you BT gotta be pleased with Thor. I know you have been worried.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 04:37 PM
AMAZING right? I just got back too (well about an hour ago,had to delay my coming on here)

even you BT gotta be pleased with Thor. I know you have been worried.

Yes....why yes I was and LOL at the people saying Thor was depowered.

Vartha
05-04-2012, 04:39 PM
Just got back from seeing it.....heh ...BT....you okay man? :D Speak to us!!!

BigThor
05-04-2012, 04:45 PM
Thor was awesome in this film, you can definately see that Hemsworth has grown into the role and he had some of the best acting moments in the film imo.

The fight with Iron Man was my favorite Thor fight, he was shown to be stronger, more durable, and more skilled while IM used his maneuverability to stay in the game. His fight with Hulk was pretty cool as well but he really was trying to calm down Banner rather than attack him full on.

I wish he had more screentime in the final battle, but the lightning strike on the Chrysler building was spectacular and he probably did the most damage to Loki's army.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 04:57 PM
Great that you enjoyed it so much. I had about the same opinions as you, not least about how Hemsworth has grown into the role. His scenes with Loki are very impressive.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:08 PM
In my humble opinion, I think Hemsworth's "Thor" and Evans' "Captain America" are the most like their comic book counter parts.

Vartha
05-04-2012, 05:13 PM
I agree with that BT. Loki seems to be a bit more tougher than his counterpart in the Comics. I really can't see Loki surviving a ragdoll toss like that in the Comics andI do mean the older Loki.

DoubleO_Stark
05-04-2012, 05:14 PM
I like how Thor deduced pretty quickly that Loki was working for someone else in the mountain scene...funny that he didn't mention his thoughts to anyone else though about a higher power at work behind Loki

I genially loved that, it reminded me of the very first issue of Avengers when Iron Man, Wasp and Pym were taking care of Hulk and Thor went off to deal with the real threat, Loki in Asgard but no one else really knew about it.

Matt Mortem
05-04-2012, 05:14 PM
It was definitely an "oh ****" moment when Thor and Iron Man are duking it out and Thor grabs Iron Mans arm and starts crushing it.. I love that display of his strength level.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:15 PM
I LOVE the way Loki was shown to be bullet proof in this film, it just further solidifies that Asgardians are bullet proof in the MCU. :woot:

DoubleO_Stark
05-04-2012, 05:17 PM
I LOVE the way Loki was shown to be bullet proof in this film, it just further solidifies that Asgardians are bullet proof in the MCU. :woot:

Yeah the very first time I saw that I was like "Yep this is the beast Loki from EMH" lol

Vartha
05-04-2012, 05:17 PM
I LOVE the way Loki was shown to be bullet proof in this film, it just further solidifies that Asgardians are bullet proof in the MCU. :woot:He Headed butted IM out of the picture how does that Show that?

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:19 PM
He Headed butted IM out of the picture how does that Show that?

Huh?

MarvelKnight
05-04-2012, 05:21 PM
It was definitely an "oh ****" moment when Thor and Iron Man are duking it out and Thor grabs Iron Mans arm and starts crushing it.. I love that display of his strength level.

It was a great sequence and I just pictured an the imaginary thermometer heating up as Thor was getting angrier by the second.

Vartha
05-04-2012, 05:22 PM
Huh?
Being Bullet Proof. I mean SKIN on Metal and not causing ANY brusing or bleeding on Thor's forehead? That tells ME he's pretty much bullet proof

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:23 PM
I'm suprised no one else is talking about the "shut the **** up" blow Thor gave IM right before he struck Cap's shield.

Endeavor
05-04-2012, 05:24 PM
I'm suprised no one else is talking about the "shut the **** up" blow Thor gave IM right before he struck Cap's shield.

Hahah, the one before hammer time?
That was awesome

MarvelKnight
05-04-2012, 05:25 PM
Yeah, It was great seeing that the bullets didn't affect Loki either.

There is no mistaking these guys are gods after seeing this movie.

MarvelKnight
05-04-2012, 05:26 PM
"You want me to put the hammer down!?!?"

Great line.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:26 PM
Yeah, It was great seeing that the bullets didn't affect Loki either.

There is no mistaking these guys are gods after seeing this movie.

Yep, he wasn't even flinching like Hulk was in TIH it was as if the bullets were water pellets. :highfive:

Vartha
05-04-2012, 05:27 PM
Yeah it was But I was more happy the Hulk couldn't lift Mjolnir than with that. lol

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Being Bullet Proof. I mean SKIN on Metal and not causing ANY brusing or bleeding on Thor's forehead? That tells ME he's pretty much bullet proof

Yeah you're right, but still nothing beats having bullets bounce off of you like a badass.

Rock Sexton
05-04-2012, 05:30 PM
Yeah you're right, but still nothing beats having bullets bounce off of you like a badass.

Or head butting a man in a full metal suit sending him flying 20 yards.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 05:34 PM
Or head butting a man in a full metal suit sending him flying 20 yards.

Or getting your face scraped up against the side of a mountain without a scratch on you. :cool:

Gamma Burst
05-04-2012, 06:06 PM
Or getting your face scraped up against the side of a mountain without a scratch on you. :cool:

LOL. I still remember some crazies on the Thor board saying he was just a normal guy with a powerful hammer.:doh:

BigThor
05-04-2012, 06:07 PM
LOL. I still remember some crazies on the Thor board saying he was just a normal guy with a powerful hammer.:doh:

Me too, hell I'd love to be a "normal guy" if THAT is what's considered normal these days. :woot:

Gamma Burst
05-04-2012, 06:11 PM
Me too, hell I'd love to be a "normal guy" if THAT is what's considered normal these days. :woot:

Yeah, me too!:woot:

antonydelfini
05-04-2012, 06:13 PM
I rewatched Thor, and I have to say he is definitely more Thor-like in the Avengers.

Regarding Iron Man vs Thor, it's obvious who is more powerful. When it comes to Hulk vs Thor, id say it was an equal fight. And Thor wasnt even using the lightning yet.

And the way he killed dozens of baddies along with 2 leviathans with that lightning was the most powerful move in the final battle.

And I love sleeveless Thor. Imagine that with a clean shaven Thor and a Helmet and you get a classic looking Thor. Missed opportunity with the helmet since it is one of Thor's more iconic elements in terms of appearance.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 06:16 PM
I rewatched Thor, and I have to say he is definitely more Thor-like in the Avengers.

Regarding Iron Man vs Thor, it's obvious who is more powerful. When it comes to Hulk vs Thor, id say it was an equal fight. And Thor wasnt even using the lightning yet.

And the way he killed dozens of baddies along with 2 leviathans with that lightning was the most powerful move in the final battle.

And I love sleeveless Thor. Imagine that with a clean shaven Thor and a Helmet and you get a classic looking Thor. Missed opportunity with the helmet since it is one of Thor's more iconic elements in terms of appearance.

The sleeveless look was very badass, however I think Thor looks better with a beard and I hope we get to see him wear his helmet in THOR II.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 07:42 PM
Yes, the beard gives something closer to what we would associate with a "norse look". If he doesn't wear the helmet in Thor 2 I don't think we'll ever see him wear it in action.

BigThor
05-04-2012, 07:49 PM
All I know is, this little boy walked out of the theater and said "I'm Thor"! Out of all of the Avengers the little rascal wanted to be Thor, I almost walked up to the boy and gave him a dollar.

I'm sure his mother would've been a bit hesitant about a strange black man handing her son money though. :oldrazz:

Gamma Burst
05-04-2012, 07:51 PM
All I know is, this little boy walked out of the theater and said "I'm Thor"! Out of all of the Avengers the little rascal wanted to be Thor, I almost walked up to the boy and gave him a dollar.

I'm sure his mother would've been a bit hesitant about a strange black man handing her son money though. :oldrazz:

LOL. I always pictured you as a blonde guy.:woot:

BigThor
05-04-2012, 07:54 PM
LOL. I always pictured you as a blonde guy.:woot:

Nah then I would look like Dennis Rodman, I'm just a regular dark brown haired african american. :word:

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 08:07 PM
All I know is, this little boy walked out of the theater and said "I'm Thor"! Out of all of the Avengers the little rascal wanted to be Thor, I almost walked up to the boy and gave him a dollar.

I'm sure his mother would've been a bit hesitant about a strange black man handing her son money though. :oldrazz:
LOL, I love the image of some stranger rewarding a kid for projecting himself into the correct superhero. :woot:

BigThor
05-04-2012, 08:12 PM
LOL, I love the image of some stranger rewarding a kid for projecting himself into the correct superhero. :woot:

I guess I'm just not used to kids wanting to be my favorite superhero, you know with all the wanna be Hulks, Batmen, and Spideys running around.

Flemm
05-04-2012, 08:16 PM
Thor was very cool in this. It's funny, this movie has got me even more pumped for IM3 and Thor 2 than I was previously. What Marvel studios has going on here is *****ing awesome beyond words lol.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 08:18 PM
asgardians are ridiculously strong and durable. the average everyday run of the mill asgardian can lift 30 tons (as a comparison, spider-man can lift 10 tons).
they're very hard kill and dr. doom actually had to remove the heart of an asgardian to kill one. loki suriviving the hulk smash doesn't surprise me in the least.

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 08:18 PM
I guess I'm just not used to kids wanting to be my favorite superhero, you know with all the wanna be Hulks, Batmen, and Spideys running around.
I can relate to that. Apart from Thor being my favorite for a long time I had a significant period as a kid where I was all about Colossus. That I've developed tendencies to root for bad guys fairly often doesn't help either. ;)

Gamma Burst
05-04-2012, 08:28 PM
asgardians are ridiculously strong and durable. the average everyday run of the mill asgardian can lift 30 tons (as a comparison, spider-man can lift 10 tons).
there very hard kill and dr. doom actually had to remove the heart of an asgardian to kill one. loki suriviving the hulk smash doesn't surprise me in the least.

Very true. And that was only an 'lower' Asgardian. An higher asgardian, such as Kelda, could survive even without her heart for a time.:word:

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 08:41 PM
I can relate to that. Apart from Thor being my favorite for a long time I had a significant period as a kid where I was all about Colossus. That I've developed tendencies to root for bad guys fairly often doesn't help either. ;)

spidey is my favorite hero but thor is a close second (thanks to the walt simsonrun run). the funny thing is the very first thor comic I ever read didn't even have thor in it (thor #344 whatever happened to balder the brave?).

Mjölnir
05-04-2012, 08:52 PM
spidey is my favorite hero but thor is a close second (thanks to the walt simsonrun run). the funny thing is the very first thor comic I ever read didn't even have thor in it (thor #344 whatever happened to balder the brave?).
I don't really remember when I started to really like Thor. There were never any pure Thor comics here in Sweden but I do know that Secret Wars was a significant step along the way for me to really get into that character. I still remember how cool I thought it was when Thor was standing outside the hero headquarters in the deadly storm.

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 08:58 PM
I don't really remember when I started to really like Thor. There were never any pure Thor comics here in Sweden but I do know that Secret Wars was a significant step along the way for me to really get into that character. I still remember how cool I thought it was when Thor was standing outside the hero headquarters in the deadly storm.

it was the simonson run that made me big thor fan and then I lost a bit of interest but got back my interest in thor big when coipel (best artist in comics right now) and JMS did their run.

darkslayer101
05-04-2012, 10:35 PM
I'm suprised no one else is talking about the "shut the **** up" blow Thor gave IM right before he struck Cap's shield.

haha...that was the best part i had a big grin when he did that>

Cap: prove it and put down the hammer
IM: no go!, no go!, he loves his hammer
BAM!
Thor: YOU WANT ME TO PUT DOWN THE HAMMER!

Punisher Rising
05-04-2012, 10:37 PM
Chris was perfect as Thor in both The Avengers and Thor. Watching him is definitely like seeing a comic book character come to life from the pages, same with everyone else in the movie.

darkslayer101
05-04-2012, 10:37 PM
I rewatched Thor, and I have to say he is definitely more Thor-like in the Avengers.

Regarding Iron Man vs Thor, it's obvious who is more powerful. When it comes to Hulk vs Thor, id say it was an equal fight. And Thor wasnt even using the lightning yet.

And the way he killed dozens of baddies along with 2 leviathans with that lightning was the most powerful move in the final battle.

And I love sleeveless Thor. Imagine that with a clean shaven Thor and a Helmet and you get a classic looking Thor. Missed opportunity with the helmet since it is one of Thor's more iconic elements in terms of appearance.

i hope in the sequels we get a rematch of Hulk and thor where they really get on each other's nerves

spider-neil
05-04-2012, 11:01 PM
the moment when thor is calling his hammer while the camera is trained on the offscreen approach of hulk had me absolutely geeking out and is easily my favorite part of the movie

Smashlilman
05-05-2012, 02:08 AM
All I know is, this little boy walked out of the theater and said "I'm Thor"! Out of all of the Avengers the little rascal wanted to be Thor, I almost walked up to the boy and gave him a dollar.

I'm sure his mother would've been a bit hesitant about a strange black man handing her son money though. :oldrazz:

LOL. I always pictured you as a blonde guy.:woot:

I knew something was up when i said i loved the Boondocks and you said you loved watching it too.
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0dut0LHbX1r6y1veo1_400.gif

BigThor
05-05-2012, 02:17 AM
I knew something was up when i said i loved the Boondocks and you said you loved watching it too.
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0dut0LHbX1r6y1veo1_400.gif

Why yes, my friend let me borrow all three seasons on dvd for the second time. :woot:

ManX07
05-05-2012, 03:45 AM
the moment when thor is calling his hammer while the camera is trained on the offscreen approach of hulk had me absolutely geeking out and is easily my favorite part of the movie
I still say Thor Held back a little. Man I want to see Thor cut loose.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 03:47 AM
I still say Thor Held back a little. Man I want to see Thor cut loose.

Yeah he clearly was, but he had to though or else the Helicarrier would've been brought down and thousands of people would've died.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 03:52 AM
thor cuts loose on the chryslar building

BigThor
05-05-2012, 03:54 AM
thor cuts loose on the chryslar building

He killed not one, but TWO leviathans and a host of chitauri soldiers with that attack.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 03:57 AM
Thor actually ended up looking the most goofy/out of place. The hammer just didn't have the weight it needed. It moves in his hands too much.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 03:58 AM
He killed not one, but TWO leviathans and a host of chitauri soldiers with that attack.

Actually, it was 3. You can see the last one coming right before they cut away.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 03:59 AM
Thor actually ended up looking the most goofy/out of place. The hammer just didn't have the weight it needed. It moves in his hands too much.

Sorry I didn't quite see that :o

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 04:07 AM
Sorry I didn't quite see that :o

Maybe your screen was too small? :woot:

I wonder how light the prop is. You see him throwing it around in the behind the scenes stuff.

It does those little movements that tell you it just isn't what it is suppose to be. The difference is glaring when the CGI hammer is used.

herolee10
05-05-2012, 04:11 AM
It was interesting to see on how Fury turned things around in the


argument scene where he pointed at Thor, or rather, the events that took place in NM with him in it, that was the major catalyst for why SHIELD was developing weapons.

Just goes to show on how Thor's universe and mythology has really influenced the events of the MCU.

He could be realms away, and yet the actions and events that goes on in his solo adventures could easy have HUGE repercussions or influences on Earth.


Also, while Hulk was the one that caught Iron Man, I liked on how Thor was getting ready to take off to catch Iron Man.

Webfoot Hero
05-05-2012, 04:11 AM
Maybe your screen was too small? :woot:

I wonder how light the prop is. You see him throwing it around in the behind the scenes stuff.

It does those little movements that tell you it just isn't what it is suppose to be. The difference is glaring when the CGI hammer is used.
If you saw the BTS on the Thor Blu-ray, they used several different hammers for the different type of scenes he was filming. He'd use a foam or rubber one for the fight scenes but would switch to a heavier one if he was just holding it. I assume they did that on The Avengers.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 04:11 AM
Thor actually ended up looking the most goofy/out of place. The hammer just didn't have the weight it needed. It moves in his hands too much.

yeah, I thought that as well.

when the hammer returns to his hand it seems very light, it's not at all like in the avengers cartoon where the hammer looks really heavy when thor catches it.

herolee10
05-05-2012, 04:13 AM
Also; despite what some may say, i really think that Thor had some strong emotional moments going on in this film, and that they rank up with some of the strongest moments in general for the film imho:


The look on Thor's eyes when Coulson was killed and how Loki was still preparing to drop Thor onto the ground was executed very well.

I liked how Thor hesitated for a moment before grabbing his hammer from the ground to reflect on things and how he was clenching his fist.

I also enjoyed on how Chris played off Thor seeming a bit hopeful when he saw some doubt on Loki's face when he was still trying to convince him to turn things around when the army invaded.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:14 AM
Thor actually ended up looking the most goofy/out of place. The hammer just didn't have the weight it needed. It moves in his hands too much.

It may have been the longer handle, I do agree that the hammer looked and reacted alot better in THOR.

yeah, I thought that as well.

when the hammer returns to his hand it seems very light, it's not at all like in the avengers cartoon where the hammer looks really heavy when thor catches it.

That was only when he was fighting beside Cap, it seem pretty heavy when he caught it during his fights with IM and Hulk.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 04:15 AM
If you saw the BTS on the Thor Blu-ray, they used several different hammers for the different type of scenes he was filming. He'd use a foam or rubber one for the fight scenes but would switch to a heavier one if he was just holding it. I assume they did that on The Avengers.

I have seen it, but they handled it a lot better in Thor. It still had its problems, but far less.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 04:17 AM
Also; despite what some may say, i really think that Thor had some strong emotional moments going on in this film, and that they rank up with some of the strongest moments in general for the film imho:


The look on Thor's eyes when Coulson was killed and how Loki was still preparing to drop Thor onto the ground was executed very well.

I liked how Thor hesitated for a moment before grabbing his hammer from the ground to reflect on things and how he was clenching his fist.

I also enjoyed on how Chris played off Thor seeming a bit hopeful when he saw some doubt on Loki's face when he was still trying to convince him to turn things around when the army invaded.

Thor was great. Just not enough of him. His scenes with Loki were probably the best in the film.

Webfoot Hero
05-05-2012, 04:20 AM
Thor was great. Just not enough of him. His scenes with Loki were probably the best in the film.
You could really feel the conflict within Thor as he was trying to decide what to do with his brother. He was angry at all the destruction and death Loki had caused but also didn't want him to be killed either. Chris and Tom have such a good chemistry together.

Godzilla2000
05-05-2012, 04:20 AM
yeah, I thought that as well.

when the hammer returns to his hand it seems very light, it's not at all like in the avengers cartoon where the hammer looks really heavy when thor catches it.

Uh, I hate to break this to you but in cartoons you can do anything and not break an actor's arm by doing it. Reality and physics work a lot differently than it does in animation.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:22 AM
Uh, I hate to break this to you but in cartoons you can do anything and not break an actor's arm by doing it. Reality and physics work a lot differently than it does in animation.

Yep, but like I said Mjolnir seemed pretty heavy when Thor caught it in the IM and Hulk fights.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 04:23 AM
Uh, I hate to break this to you but in cartoons you can do anything and not break an actor's arm by doing it. Reality and physics work a lot differently than it does in animation.

The problem is I think sometimes when they show the hammer returning, they are actually tossing Hemsworth the hammer and it is noticeable. They probably should just return it CGI style.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:29 AM
The problem is I think sometimes when they show the hammer returning, they are actually tossing Hemsworth the hammer and it is noticeable. They probably should just return it CGI style.

Check the hammer catch at 0.24 secs, it was pretty freakin' sweet,

pQ6ZdLjoCFQ

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 04:34 AM
Check the hammer catch at 0.24 secs, it was pretty freakin' sweet,

pQ6ZdLjoCFQ

I saw the movie. :woot:

Yeah, stuff like that looks neat. The "Stayin' alive" moment? Not so much.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:41 AM
I saw the movie. :woot:

Yeah, stuff like that looks neat. The "Stayin' alive" moment? Not so much.

I know, but sometimes people don't remember everything and I wasn't fond of the hammer catch while he was fighting alongside Cap either.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 04:43 AM
the problem with making a CG hammer that returns to thor's hand is when thor makes a grabbing motion (grabbing at thin air) he may either completely close his fist or not close his fist enough. I can totally see why they throw him a real hammer but it does look light.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 04:45 AM
Check the hammer catch at 0.24 secs, it was pretty freakin' sweet,

pQ6ZdLjoCFQ


YES! that's perfect

Godzilla2000
05-05-2012, 04:55 AM
the problem with making a CG hammer that returns to thor's hand is when thor makes a grabbing motion (grabbing at thin air) he may either completely close his fist or not close his fist enough. I can totally see why they throw him a real hammer but it does look light.

I don't think all that was CGI though. If you've seen any of the production footage caught by onlookers, Chris Hemsworth was catching a real hammer.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 04:57 AM
I don't think all that was CGI though. If you've seen any of the production footage caught by onlookers, Chris Hemsworth was catching a real hammer.

I'm saying mostly thor is catching a real hammer with CG used for only a couple of shots (like in the video, which is clearly CG).

Mjölnir
05-05-2012, 04:58 AM
Thor actually ended up looking the most goofy/out of place. The hammer just didn't have the weight it needed. It moves in his hands too much.
Then again few things would look as heavy as you'd think when you see them in the hands of someone of normal human stature but is almost as strong as Hulk.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 05:01 AM
Then again few things would look as heavy as you'd think when you see them in the hands of someone of normal human stature but is almost as strong as Hulk.

Thor's strength is not important. It is how the Hammer moves. When he swings it for effect it is completely solid. Same when the CGI takes over.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 05:06 AM
Then again few things would look as heavy as you'd think when you see them in the hands of someone of normal human stature but is almost as strong as Hulk.

true, someone who can lift over 100 tons, a hammer is going to be like a feather but in some scenes the hammer looks to have a weight to it (like in the video above) and other times it looks like its made of cardboard.

herolee10
05-05-2012, 05:07 AM
I'd like to note that: Thor, near the end of his fight with Loki, somewhat man handled him as well. If anything, I thought Thor was going about the battle two ways; to defeat his brother but at the same time, to reach out any glimmer of hope that he could find in getting Loki to snap out of it, hence why he lowered his guard down when he was trying to talk some sense into him. But as soon as Loki took advantage of that, like he had done with their last fight, Thor pretty much gave the defeating blow instantly.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 05:16 AM
thor and loki' story is almost shakesparean. a lot of weight to it. so sad when thor tells loki to 'come home' a direct mirror of when thor asks loki if HE can come home when he is mortal.

04nbod
05-05-2012, 05:20 AM
I completely understand that hardcore Thor fans might have been happier with more of him. But honestly, the power levels he displays in this movie are far better than his own solo film. That alone should make you happy... I mean the guy single handedly killed two leviathans and a whole lot of Chitauri in just one blast! Not even Hulk was shown displaying that much power.

Eh, I prefer the personality and character. A fight is a fight, he'll always look badass.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:22 AM
Eh, I prefer the personality and character. A fight is a fight, he'll always look badass.

Not always, just go watch Hulk Vs. for further proof.

Nathan
05-05-2012, 05:25 AM
I just love that he fought for a bit without the Hammer and they showed off his superhuman strength.

04nbod
05-05-2012, 05:26 AM
Not always, just go watch Hulk Vs. for further proof.

Its a series of cartoons about Hulk beating people up,what do you expect? :woot:Marvel direct to DVD hasn't produced anything worthwhile.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 05:29 AM
Its a series of cartoons about Hulk beating people up,what do you expect? :woot:Marvel direct to DVD hasn't produced anything worthwhile.

Hulk vs. Wolverine is bloody awesome, just for Deadpool.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:30 AM
I just love that he fought for a bit without the Hammer and they showed off his superhuman strength.

Same here, I didn't like the "all hammer, all the time" approach in his solo film and I hope Taylor continues to expand on Thor's super strength in THOR II.

Its a series of cartoons about Hulk beating people up,what do you expect? :woot:Marvel direct to DVD hasn't produced anything worthwhile.

Still, I know you care more about character and personality but becoming someone's ***** is NOT the God of Thunder I know.

itchyscratch
05-05-2012, 05:30 AM
Forked out for 2D gold class today to escape the lines of kids and those stupid annoying 3D glasses. It was well worth it and I didn't feel like I missed much by avoiding the 3D this time.

One nitpick I do have is that Thor really could have been used a number of times in the movie for scenes which required flying. After the explosion on the Hellicarrier Thor goes AWOL and doesn't appear until he intercepts Hulk. Why wouldn't he have been used to fly with Iron Man to help fix and prop up the Hellicarrier? Black Widow went to all that trouble to hitch a ride so she could fly up to Stark Tower to try to close the portal, but why didn't they just ask Thor to fly up there? And wouldn't it have made more sense to send Thor to fly up and divert the nuke into the portal? Presumably he'd not be affected by the atmosphere as IM was?

I'm fully aware that Thor couldn't be used to save the day in all the scenes, but I do wish they'd used his flying skills more. I wonder if Thor in flight just didn't look convincing enoug?

Nathan
05-05-2012, 05:32 AM
Same here, I didn't like the "all hammer, all the time" approach in his solo film and I hope Taylor continues to expand on Thor's super strength in THOR II.

And there needs to be more head-butting in Thor 2. He needs to crumble a stone giant's head with a head-butt.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 05:32 AM
I just wanted to know why he didn't use more lighting. It seemed pretty effective. He should of just stayed up in the air and just kept blasting.

Nathan
05-05-2012, 05:33 AM
Because projectile spammers are boring.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:34 AM
Forked out for 2D gold class today to escape the lines of kids and those stupid annoying 3D glasses. It was well worth it and I didn't feel like I missed much by avoiding the 3D this time.

One nitpick I do have is that Thor really could have been used a number of times in the movie for scenes which required flying. After the explosion on the Hellicarrier Thor goes AWOL and doesn't appear until he intercepts Hulk. Why wouldn't he have been used to fly with Iron Man to help fix and prop up the Hellicarrier? Black Widow went to all that trouble to hitch a ride so she could fly up to Stark Tower to try to close the portal, but why didn't they just ask Thor to fly up there? And wouldn't it have made more sense to send Thor to fly up and divert the nuke into the portal? Presumably he'd not be affected by the atmosphere as IM was?

I'm fully aware that Thor couldn't be used to save the day in all the scenes, but I do wish they'd used his flying skills more. I wonder if Thor in flight just didn't look convincing enoug?

It was pretty clear that Whedon want BW to have her own "save the day" moment so that's why she was the one who shut down the portal.

Oh and IM was the only one who was able to hear Shield's radio frequency therefore he was able to react before the others even knew.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 05:34 AM
Because projectile spammers are boring.

But far more effective. And it is all about the human lives you safe, not how cool you look.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:36 AM
I just wanted to know why he didn't use more lighting. It seemed pretty effective. He should of just stayed up in the air and just kept blasting.

I'm with you on this one, his title is the "God of Thunder" not the guy who hits people with a hammer.

It seemed kind of dumb that he was fighting the aliens up close and personal when he could've been electroction multiple targets at once.

Nathan
05-05-2012, 05:37 AM
But far more effective. And it is all about the human lives you safe, not how cool you look.

But no one did even die. Honestly, I think I didn't count one single human casualty during the entire Alien invasion.

BrollySupersj
05-05-2012, 05:37 AM
Chris Hemsworth shined again as Thor. All of his scenes were excellent. I loved he he kept trying to reach Loki, he refused to lose faith in him. But in the end, guess it didn't do much.

I would of liked to see him take some damage from the Chitauri though. It seemed like everyone except Thor got hit once or twice.

itchyscratch
05-05-2012, 05:39 AM
And there needs to be more head-butting in Thor 2. He needs to crumble a stone giant's head with a head-butt.

Yes please! And the overhead body-slams can stay too.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:39 AM
And there needs to be more head-butting in Thor 2. He needs to crumble a stone giant's head with a head-butt.

I'm ready see more body slams and some bona-fide power punches in THOR II, I also want to see Thor lift a huge object at some point.

Chris Hemsworth shined again as Thor. All of his scenes were excellent. I loved he he kept trying to reach Loki, he refused to lose faith in him. But in the end, guess it didn't do much.

I would of liked to see him take some damage from the Chitauri though. It seemed like everyone except Hulk got hit once or twice.

I'm glad you enjoyed his performance, oh and now that you mention the chitauri didn't hit Thor at all.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 05:39 AM
But no one did even die. Honestly, I think I didn't count one single human casualty during the entire Alien invasion.

They had a memorial wall during the news segment at the end. Pretty sure people died, even though they didn't show any of them.

BrollySupersj
05-05-2012, 05:40 AM
I'm ready see more body slams and some bona-fide power punches in THOR II, I also want to see Thor lift a huge object at some point.



I'm glad you enjoyed his performance, oh and now that you mention the chitauri didn't hit Thor at all.

A blast to the chest once would of done just fine.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 05:41 AM
Forked out for 2D gold class today to escape the lines of kids and those stupid annoying 3D glasses. It was well worth it and I didn't feel like I missed much by avoiding the 3D this time.

One nitpick I do have is that Thor really could have been used a number of times in the movie for scenes which required flying. After the explosion on the Hellicarrier Thor goes AWOL and doesn't appear until he intercepts Hulk. Why wouldn't he have been used to fly with Iron Man to help fix and prop up the Hellicarrier? Black Widow went to all that trouble to hitch a ride so she could fly up to Stark Tower to try to close the portal, but why didn't they just ask Thor to fly up there? And wouldn't it have made more sense to send Thor to fly up and divert the nuke into the portal? Presumably he'd not be affected by the atmosphere as IM was?

I'm fully aware that Thor couldn't be used to save the day in all the scenes, but I do wish they'd used his flying skills more. I wonder if Thor in flight just didn't look convincing enoug?

the movies have clearly established a thor needing his hammer to fly (unlike the animated series) so there was nothing he could have done with the helicarrier. actually he could have maybe have created a wind strong enough to keep the carrier in the air but that much wind would have stopped tony making repairs.

Nathan
05-05-2012, 05:42 AM
They had a memorial wall during the news segment at the end. Pretty sure people died, even though they didn't show any of them.

But honestly, after seeing so many people croak in First Avenger, which I totally didn't expect, I was thinking we'd get something similar in The Avengers too. Sure, there were a couple on screen deaths. But when the Invasion started, suddenly everything is apparently off-screen.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:43 AM
A blast to the chest once would of done just fine.

Yep, I like to see Thor take damage that most heroes can't that's the whole point of having superhuman durability.

BrollySupersj
05-05-2012, 05:44 AM
Yep, I like to see Thor take damage that most heroes can't that's the whole point of having superhuman durability.

At least the movie showed off Captain America's durability with the Chitauri weapons. Those beams can blast through solid concrete with incredible ease. He took a blast in the stomach, no more than say...20 yards? All it did was knock him down.

04nbod
05-05-2012, 05:45 AM
You know, I didn't see anything as epic from Thor as when he basically levelled Jotunheim with a hammer slam in Thor. I don't know why you guys are so down on Thor's action. The potential was there but not every action scene has to be all out. Its more about concept and motivation.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 05:47 AM
I had a problem with thor's power level in thor but really like how that power level was protrayed in the avengers.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:47 AM
You know, I didn't see anything as epic from Thor as when he basically levelled Jotunheim with a hammer slam in Thor. I don't know why you guys are so down on Thor's action. The potential was there but not every action scene has to be all out. Its more about concept and motivation.

No one's down on Thor's action, if anything we're praising it and something like what happened in Jotunheim would be too destructive around humans.

I had a problem with thor's power level in thor but really like how that power level was protrayed in the avengers.

It wasn't really his power level that was the problem, it wa shis lack of strength feats without Mjolnir.

Nathan
05-05-2012, 05:48 AM
Dude could have laid waste to the entire city, obviously the rest of the team wouldn't have been cool with that.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:50 AM
Dude could have laid waste to the entire city, obviously the rest of the team wouldn't have been cool with that.

He would've been worse than Loki in that regard, buildings would've fallen and people' would've been crushed.

Havok83
05-05-2012, 05:50 AM
I dont like Thor much in the comics...always found him boring, but Im very surrpised with how much I love him in this film

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:51 AM
I dont like Thor much in the comics...always found him boring, but Im very surrpised with how much I love him in this film

That's pretty funny because he's probably the most like his comic book counterpart out of all the characters in the film.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 05:54 AM
But honestly, after seeing so many people croak in First Avenger, which I totally didn't expect, I was thinking we'd get something similar in The Avengers too. Sure, there were a couple on screen deaths. But when the Invasion started, suddenly everything is apparently off-screen.

Yes and it was glaringly noticeable.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 05:58 AM
I dont like Thor much in the comics...always found him boring, but Im very surrpised with how much I love him in this film

thor is as exciting as the writer allows (very much like superman) you give him villians that are weak and there is no conflict (and thus boring) as thor is just too powerful but you pit him against a mega baddie and thor comes into his own. there are no bad characters, just bad writers.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 05:59 AM
Yes and it was glaringly noticeable.

Not to me, I was too busy focusing on the actual Avengers to care.

BrollySupersj
05-05-2012, 06:02 AM
I don't really need to see the death to confirm it. No way the Chitauri made it out with no civilian kills.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 06:07 AM
Not to me, I was too busy focusing on the actual Avengers to care.

It was the Avengers job...

BigThor
05-05-2012, 06:12 AM
It was the Avengers job...

They did the best they can, they couldn't save all the civilians from the chaos.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 06:16 AM
They did the best they can, they couldn't save all the civilians from the chaos.

That isn't the point. The point was they went out of their way to avoid showing deaths.

Mjölnir
05-05-2012, 06:21 AM
Same here, I didn't like the "all hammer, all the time" approach in his solo film and I hope Taylor continues to expand on Thor's super strength in THOR II.
My hopes for Thor II go both ways.

I want them to show the might of Thor himself. That he's almost like the Hulk in strength and durability and that he has the skills to get through tough situations.

But I would also like them to expand more upon Mjolnir so people understand just how powerful that weapon is and how it, together with Thor's innate powers, creates an insanely powerful combination.

Avenger
05-05-2012, 06:23 AM
That isn't the point. The point was they went out of their way to avoid showing deaths.Welcome to the House of Mouse.

I suspect they were okay with showing deaths in TFA because they were pretty much all bloodless vaporizations caused by fancy energy guns.

DarthSkywalker
05-05-2012, 06:25 AM
Welcome to the House of Mouse.

I suspect they were okay with showing deaths in TFA because they were pretty much all bloodless vaporizations caused by fancy energy guns.

I have seen plenty of Disney films with deaths. POTC has plenty.

Avenger
05-05-2012, 06:30 AM
True, I'd forgotten about the POTC movies (which is weird, 'cause I love those :funny:). And they did show a couple of deaths in IM2. Okay, nevermind. I retract my comment. ;)

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 06:31 AM
My hopes for Thor II go both ways.

I want them to show the might of Thor himself. That he's almost like the Hulk in strength and durability and that he has the skills to get through tough situations.

But I would also like them to expand more upon Mjolnir so people understand just how powerful that weapon is and how it, together with Thor's innate powers, creates an insanely powerful combination.

thor himself:
vast strength
lightning
connection to the earth (his mother)
can hear someone calling him regardless of where they are on earth

hammer:
flight
focus for the lightning
weather control (as far as I'm aware thor can't do this himself) i.e. thor coudn't on his own create a tornado
focus for the 'god energy'
dimension jumping


as a side note, thor used to be able to travel back in time with the hammer but this was removed by kang. also thor's hammer used to 'tingle' in the presense of danger but this was also removed (more than likely because that's spider-man calling card).

BigThor
05-05-2012, 06:38 AM
My hopes for Thor II go both ways.

I want them to show the might of Thor himself. That he's almost like the Hulk in strength and durability and that he has the skills to get through tough situations.

But I would also like them to expand more upon Mjolnir so people understand just how powerful that weapon is and how it, together with Thor's innate powers, creates an insanely powerful combination.

Same here, I want Thor to be shown fighting without Mjolnir as well expaning upon Mjolnir's powers whenever he does us it.

If we don't get a "god blast" at some point in the Thor franchise (preferrably against someone VERY powerful) I will be highly upset.

thor himself:
vast strength
lightning
connection to the earth (his mother)
can hear someone calling him regardless of where they are on earth

hammer:
flight
focus for the lightning
weather control (as far as I'm aware thor can't do this himself) i.e. thor coudn't on his own create a tornado
focus for the 'god energy'
dimension jumping


as a side note, thor used to be able to travel back in time with the hammer but this was removed by kang. also thor's hammer used to 'tingle' in the presense of danger but this was also removed (more than likely because that's spider-man calling card).

Thor can control the weather even without Mjolnir as evidence of causing storms whenever he had nightmares as a child, oh and he's also able to do god blasts without Mjolnir.

herolee10
05-05-2012, 06:46 AM
It is kind of interesting on how:

Thor was like the ONLY Avenger who I didn't feel like was in any real danger throughout the entire battle with him and the Avengers going up agains the Aliens.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 06:47 AM
It is kind of interesting on how:

Thor was like the ONLY Avenger who I didn't feel like was in any real danger throughout the entire battle with him and the Avengers going up agains the Aliens.


None of the Chitauri even landed an attack on him, I don't know whether it's a good thing because Thor is the most experienced or if it's a bad thing because I like to see Thor's durability put to use.

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 06:49 AM
Thor can control the weather even without Mjolnir as evidence of causing storms whenever he had nightmares as a child, oh and he's also able to do god blasts without Mjolnir.


can you tell me which issues this happens?
Thor definately creates lighthing without the hammer in bloodoath

Mjölnir
05-05-2012, 06:54 AM
thor himself:
vast strength
lightning
connection to the earth (his mother)
can hear someone calling him regardless of where they are on earth

hammer:
flight
focus for the lightning
weather control (as far as I'm aware thor can't do this himself) i.e. thor coudn't on his own create a tornado
focus for the 'god energy'
dimension jumping


as a side note, thor used to be able to travel back in time with the hammer but this was removed by kang. also thor's hammer used to 'tingle' in the presense of danger but this was also removed (more than likely because that's spider-man calling card).
Apart from a slight reshuffle according to BT's input I definitely support this. I do expect all of this to be a bit too much to show off in one movie but it's a great list to pick from.

I've also had a wishful scene in my mind for a while now, where Thor is up in the air and charges up Mjolnir with lightning, and throws it at someone on the ground. The result being a huge explosive impact and leaving a crater behind. I guess a more epic and amped up version of the shield bash.

Spidey Rules 2
05-05-2012, 06:55 AM
the moment when thor is calling his hammer while the camera is trained on the offscreen approach of hulk had me absolutely geeking out and is easily my favorite part of the movie

Yeah, that was cool :word:, but what would have been my favorite scene AND DIDN'T COME OUT :cmad:left me disappointed: :csad:



Hulk needed another few seconds to pick up the hammer. I wanted/expected Thor to get some of his own medicine. Imagine the look on his face had it happened? :woot:

I'm surprised it hasn't already been brought up.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 06:56 AM
can you tell me which issues this happens?
Thor definately creates lighthing without the hammer in bloodoath

Man I can't remember it's been years since I read it, I didn't even remember it until Vartha brought it up in the Thor threads a year ago.

Yeah, that was cool :word:, but what would have been my favorite scene AND DIDN'T COME OUT :cmad:left me disappointed: :csad:

Hulk needed another few seconds to pick up the hammer. I wanted/expected Thor to get some of his own medicine. Imagine the look on his face had it happened? :woot:

I'm surprised it hasn't already been brought up.

Hulk wasn't going to pick up Mjolnir no matter how long he tried, Hulk cannot lift Mjolnir because it's not a "strength" thing.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 06:57 AM
Double post

AVEITWITHJAMON
05-05-2012, 07:01 AM
Yep, I like to see Thor take damage that most heroes can't that's the whole point of having superhuman durability.

Well, there was the moment after Hulk stopped the Leviathan with one punch it exploded everyone had to take cover from the explosion but Thor just put his hand up, thought that little bit was pretty cool.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 07:02 AM
Well, there was the moment after Hulk stopped the Leviathan with one punch it exploded everyone had to take cover from the explosion but Thor just put his hand up, thought that little bit was pretty cool.

Yeah that was pretty cool, that was also one of the coolest punches I have ever seen on film. :wow:

spider-neil
05-05-2012, 07:04 AM
Well, there was the moment after Hulk stopped the Leviathan with one punch it exploded everyone had to take cover from the explosion but Thor just put his hand up, thought that little bit was pretty cool.

going to have to pay attention to that on my next viewing. completely missed it.

First Avenger
05-05-2012, 07:10 AM
Yeah, that was cool :word:, but what would have been my favorite scene AND DIDN'T COME OUT :cmad:left me disappointed: :csad:



Hulk needed another few seconds to pick up the hammer. I wanted/expected Thor to get some of his own medicine. Imagine the look on his face had it happened? :woot:

I'm surprised it hasn't already been brought up.

Uh,you have to be worthy to lift Mjolnir.Hulk isn't.

Silvermoth
05-05-2012, 07:42 AM
Hemsworth was amazing in this film. I loved his entrance and adored the following scene...

The one where Loki tricks him into the cage. It's so horrible because until then he sort of believes his brother is just having a tantrum. He's like "no way. This is the guy I used to have to comfort when there was thunder outside". Then when he sees Loki murder for the first time in front of him he realises how sick his brother has become.

It's an incredible moment. Especially when he walks to Mjolnir and realises that he may not be worthy enough to pick it up this time. It's a perfect way to show Thor's vulnerability and his journey throughout the movie.

Vartha
05-05-2012, 09:32 AM
Uh,you have to be worthy to lift Mjolnir.Hulk isn't.Not to mention Ulty Hulk only lifts a MORTALLY MADE Mjolnir in the Original Ultimates series, as covered in the Ulty Thor mini Series.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 09:33 AM
Not to mention Ulty Hulk only lifts a MORTALLY MADE Mjolnir in the Original Ultimates series, as covered in the Ulty Thor mini Series.

Damn Marvel for not explaining that in the Ultimate Avengers movie. :cmad:

Vartha
05-05-2012, 09:36 AM
Damn Marvel for not explaining that in the Ultimate Avengers movie. :cmad:INDEED. They need a Ulty Thor animated seies lol

BigThor
05-05-2012, 09:37 AM
INDEED. They need a Ulty Thor animated seies lol

Oh no no no no, whenever Thor get's his animated series I want it to be mostly if not pure 616.

Vartha
05-05-2012, 09:47 AM
Oh no no no no, whenever Thor get's his animated series I want it to be mostly if not pure 616.I say do a series like Tales of Asgard and Ages of Thunder that cover ALL Thor dimensions and time lines.

Lady Marion
05-05-2012, 10:33 AM
going to have to pay attention to that on my next viewing. completely missed it.

On the big screen it's cooler but for now:

http://i41.tinypic.com/kbu6p1.gif

Blitzkrieg Bop
05-05-2012, 10:35 AM
God, I quit reading comics but this movie got me all excited to crack back in and go into Cap and Thor.

BigThor
05-05-2012, 10:35 AM
I remember people thought that fire was caused by the leviathan's "fire breath", it was clearly an explosion although the leviathan was involved.

On the big screen it's cooler but for now:

http://i41.tinypic.com/kbu6p1.gif

Lady Marion
05-05-2012, 10:39 AM
^^ Notice the sparks when the fire hits Thor!

BigThor
05-05-2012, 10:41 AM
^^ Notice the sparks when the fire hits Thor!

That's his good ol' superhuman durability at work baby! :up:

Lady Marion
05-05-2012, 10:44 AM
I'm so glad to hear that you enjoyed the film, BigThor! :-))

BigThor
05-05-2012, 10:45 AM
I'm so glad to hear that you enjoyed the film, BigThor! :-))

I loved it, I'm going to see it again today and tomorrow. :woot:

Lady Marion
05-05-2012, 10:48 AM
I loved it, I'm going to see it again today and tomorrow. :woot:

It will be better and better every time you watch it, I swear!:yay:

Smashlilman
05-05-2012, 12:16 PM
OMG i hate you guys. I have to wait until tomorrow to see it.

04nbod
05-05-2012, 12:23 PM
Oh no no no no, whenever Thor get's his animated series I want it to be mostly if not pure 616.

Just let them adapt The Mighty Avenger already. Its basically made for kids TV and has pre written team ups with Cap America, Cap Britain, Namor, Iron Man and The Pyms.:woot:

BigThor
05-05-2012, 12:25 PM
Just let them adapt The Mighty Avenger already. Its basically made for kids TV and has pre written team ups with Cap America, Cap Britain, Iron Man and The Pyms.:woot:

Nah I want a Thor series similar in tone to Green Lantern's animated series, except with regular animation instead of CGI.

Havok83
05-05-2012, 01:04 PM
Just chiming in again to say Thor is awesome! Im really pumped to see his movie again. I think I will do so either today or tomorrow.

Whiskey Tango
05-05-2012, 01:16 PM
I remember people thought that fire was caused by the leviathan's "fire breath", it was clearly an explosion although the leviathan was involved.


Fire breathin' Fin Fang Foom! lol u guyz

BigThor
05-05-2012, 01:18 PM
Fire breathin' Fin Fang Foom! lol u guyz

That was even more believable than the "Jormugand" rumor, I was like "really Thor's ultimate enemy in an Avengers film?" :doh:

Majmun
05-05-2012, 03:56 PM
I'm sure this has been talked about in this thread,


but what did Loki say that Odin used to get Thor to earth? Was it Dark Matter or Dark Magic?

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:01 PM
I'm sure this has been talked about in this thread,


but what did Loki say that Odin used to get Thor to earth? Was it Dark Matter or Dark Magic?

Definately "Dark Magic"

Majmun
05-05-2012, 04:12 PM
Definately "Dark Magic"
Damn it.

Did anyone else hear Dark Matter?

I don't want to lose this argument with a dude on imdb. :woot:

The Morningstar
05-05-2012, 04:14 PM
You guys notice the Ravens when Loki and Thor were arguing on the mountain?

Thor was ****ing bad ass in this. That moment on top of the Chryslar Building when he fries a couple of dragons was beautiful.

And his fight with Hulk was perfectly done. I've seen people say Hulk battered him? No. Thor was clearly holding back, he just wanted to subdue Hulk, why do you think he tried to put him in a sleeper hold? Add that to the fact he didn't have the use of Mjolnir for most of the fight, I think it was well balanced. And epic.

The Chris
05-05-2012, 04:16 PM
You guys notice the Ravens when Loki and Thor were arguing on the mountain?

Thor was ****ing bad ass in this. That moment on top of the Chryslar Building when he fries a couple of dragons was beautiful.

And his fight with Hulk was perfectly done. I've seen people say Hulk battered him? No. Thor was clearly holding back, he just wanted to subdue Hulk, why do you think he tried to put him in a sleeper hold? Add that to the fact he didn't have the use of Mjolnir for most of the fight, I think it was well balanced. And epic.

Agreed.

Anybody else love Thor wacking Iron Man and then saying "You want me to put the hammer down!!" before jumping at Capt.

I was like, holy crap!

Lady Marion
05-05-2012, 04:17 PM
Damn it.

Did anyone else hear Dark Matter?

I don't want to lose this argument with a dude on imdb. :woot:

It was clearly "Dark magic"

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:19 PM
You guys notice the Ravens when Loki and Thor were arguing on the mountain?

Thor was ****ing bad ass in this. That moment on top of the Chryslar Building when he fries a couple of dragons was beautiful.

And his fight with Hulk was perfectly done. I've seen people say Hulk battered him? No. Thor was clearly holding back, he just wanted to subdue Hulk, why do you think he tried to put him in a sleeper hold? Add that to the fact he didn't have the use of Mjolnir for most of the fight, I think it was well balanced. And epic.

Quoted for ****ing truth!!!

I didn't notice those ravens myself, but it was brought to my attention earlier and I hope it's expanded upon in Thor II.

Agreed.

Anybody else love Thor wacking Iron Man and then saying "You want me to put the hammer down!!" before jumping at Capt.

I was like, holy crap!

I DID!

It's funny how that scene is completely overlooked in favor of Hulk's punch, but I found it to be just as funny. :funny:

Majmun
05-05-2012, 04:20 PM
It was clearly "Dark magic"
Hmmm, I may have to concede to defeat. :woot:

Mjölnir
05-05-2012, 04:23 PM
Hmmm, I may have to concede to defeat. :woot:
Just tell him he's been Loki'd. ;)

http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/765213/lokid-with-tom-hiddleston.jhtml

Lady Marion
05-05-2012, 04:24 PM
Hmmm, I may have to concede to defeat. :woot:


Sorry, but so does it seem. Nobody's perfect. :cwink:

Quasimod0
05-05-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm pretty sure he says
" dark energy"

TTFN
05-05-2012, 04:27 PM
Damn it.

Did anyone else hear Dark Matter?

I don't want to lose this argument with a dude on imdb. :woot:

Yep. He said what you and I heard.

ETA Wait, that or energy. Now I wish I wouldn't have read the other answer. LOL

Majmun
05-05-2012, 04:27 PM
I'm pretty sure he says
" dark energy"
Ah yeah! Someone else who heard something different! Anybody else?

Majmun
05-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Yep. He said what you and I heard.
Another one huh?! Anybody else hear what we heard?

Gamma Burst
05-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Ah yeah! Someone else who heard something different! Anybody else?

He said Dark Energy, for sure. I've watched it twice, btw.:woot:

Quasimod0
05-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Does he not say dark energy? lol
EDIT: ah, sweet. maybe i was right. :p

Majmun
05-05-2012, 04:29 PM
He said Dark Energy, for sure. I've watched it twice, btw.:woot:
Yeah baby!

Quasimod0
05-05-2012, 04:29 PM
He said Dark Energy, for sure. I've watched it twice, btw.:woot:
Haha, same here. The second time i was listening for it. I thought it tied directly to that sign at the shield base that said something about dark energy

TTFN
05-05-2012, 04:31 PM
Majmun, you and the guy you're arguing with are both wrong. Draw? LOL

Quasimod0
05-05-2012, 04:31 PM
Oh man. And the fight with hulk was completely balanced. I have no idea how some people were saying that hulk was the winner. They were each kicking eachother's butt. lol

Majmun
05-05-2012, 04:33 PM
Majmun, you and the guy you're arguing with are both wrong. Draw? LOL
Lol, that's fine with me. :woot: But, he did tell me that I had the IQ of room temperature because I didn't hear "Dark Magic". So, it will be awesome if he didn't say "Dark Magic" either, lmao.

TTFN
05-05-2012, 04:34 PM
Oh man. And the fight with hulk was completely balanced. I have no idea how some people were saying that hulk was the winner. They were each kicking eachother's butt. lol

Actually I think it was clear Thor was trying to get Hulk to simmah. He wasn't at all going full throttle. He tried harder with IM. Thor even tried talking to him. I think that's why Hulk sucker punched him. :hehe:

BigThor
05-05-2012, 04:38 PM
Oh man. And the fight with hulk was completely balanced. I have no idea how some people were saying that hulk was the winner. They were each kicking eachother's butt. lol

Yeah I know, but people are gonna take the "Thor had a bloody nose" thing to the limit. :dry:

Plus Hulk had just thrown Thor right before the jet interrupted them, I guess whoever had the last hit was the "winner" like in grade school.