The Official Justice League Director Thread

[musclesforsupes]

So should this film with a big name director or a small name director? Myself I believe it needs a big name director. One that can give the film some legs even before it gets filming. Therefore I go with my top three of..


1. Steven Spielberg( If you want a big director I can only think of him and if they say this film will be going "Dark and Mature" then look to Steven's films to his credit for this)

2. J.J. Abrams (Big director and look what he did for Star Trek, also I am a fan of Orci and Kurtsman whom seem to respect continuity and the characters they write about so would not mind them being brought in with J.J.)

3. Ridley Scott (Again big name director, can bring the movie a big feel to it, just look at Prometheus and how that movie has been seen in the media)


So whats your top 3?

[Ursa]

J. J. Abrams would be perfect.

But he has a contract with Paramount, I don't think until when...

They need a director who really loves comic books and this characters.

[JAK®]

The Wachowski Siblings need to prove themselves again.

[Eddie Dean]

Werner Herzog

[The Guard]

George Miller.

[Eddie Dean]

Oh snap.

[BH/HHH]

Even though I don't really care for him I think James Cameron would make a great Justice League film as would Steven Spielberg but that's never going to happen.

I would love JJ Abrams but again I don't see that happening either.

[Kal-El.9859]

a shot in the dark...I say Joss Whedon. steal him from Marvel. He knows how to handle a comic book movie.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Brad Bird.

[chamber-music]

It will probably one of WB regular directors like Zack Snyder was with MOS.

If Warner Bros are going the Dark and Mature route for JLA I think Alfonso Cuaron would be a great pick.

Cuaron directed Children Of Men, Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban and the upcoming Gravity starring Sandra Bullock and George Clooney.

[HighFivingMF]

Cuaron or Snyder.

[Kal-El.9859]

If Zack Snyder does a good job with Man of Steel I say let him have a go at Justice League

[DoomsdayApex]

Duncan Jones
JJ Abrams
Alfonso Cuaron
Brad Bird
Zack Snyder

[hopefuldreamer]

If Zack Snyder does a good job with Man of Steel I say let him have a go at Justice League

This. Especially because i'd love to see Snyder's take on Darkseid :)

[Kal-El.9859]

This. Especially because i'd love to see Snyder's take on Darkseid :)

I mean he did a bang up job with Watchmen...so why not Justice League?

[hopefuldreamer]

Agreed. But I've always felt I was in the minority with my love for how he handled Watchmen.

[Kal-El.9859]

I thought Watchmen was fantastic...very few deviations from the graphic novel

[Boom]

Brad Bird or Duncan Jones.

I'd suggest Alfonso Cuaron, but I'm lobbying for him to direct the next Batman film.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Snyder could be great, but I'm not sure how I'd feel about him being the shepherd of the entire Cinematic DCU.

[The Question]

I'm against Zak Snyder. He's very technically gifted, his movies are very pretty, but he strikes me as being kind of dumb and shallow. Watchmen was very faithful as far as the details go, but the movie's tone and presentation was off, and I really got the impression Snyder didn't actually understand the book when he read it.

Really, ideally, you want to hit the same points Marvel did with Whedon:

1: Good with ensemble casts.

2: Has experience with action and SFX.

3: Is a fanboy.

4: Actually makes an honest attempt to be artistic and say something meaningful when he does things (avoiding an argument: Not saying everything Whedon makes is super deep and artsy, but he always tries, and that counts for something, Avengers wasn't Citizen Kane, but I doubt it would be as widely well received as it is if it didn't have the real heart to it it has).

[The Question]

Oh, and I'd add...

5: Is not a dumb person. Because all four of those describe Snyder, but again I don't think he's that smart.

[Tony Stark]

J.J. Abrams can't direct a WB film. He he's under contract with Paramount.

I'm going to list the name I did when this was under the misc films catagory.

David Nutter.

He's a guy that knows the genre from his work on Smallville, and has a ton of other credits under his belt. He won't pull a Martin Campbell and fall asleep at the wheel when the project runs in to trouble.

Sure he's a TV director, but Joss Whedon was primarlily a TV director, other than his work on Serenity.

[JAK®]

Snyder understood Watchmen. I read his 'Making Of' book and he demonstrated exactly what he got out of the comic. It didn't fit with my interpretation but it was valid. If anything his interpretation was closer to how the comic was viewed at the time.

He is a very visual director who sometimes doesn't know when to stop but he has also demonstrated his ability to get great performances out of actors as well as being able to create powerful scenes.

[hopefuldreamer]

I'm against Zak Snyder. He's very technically gifted, his movies are very pretty, but he strikes me as being kind of dumb and shallow. Watchmen was very faithful as far as the details go, but the movie's tone and presentation was off, and I really got the impression Snyder didn't actually understand the book when he read it.

Really, ideally, you want to hit the same points Marvel did with Whedon:

1: Good with ensemble casts.

2: Has experience with action and SFX.

3: Is a fanboy.

4: Actually makes an honest attempt to be artistic and say something meaningful when he does things (avoiding an argument: Not saying everything Whedon makes is super deep and artsy, but he always tries, and that counts for something, Avengers wasn't Citizen Kane, but I doubt it would be as widely well received as it is if it didn't have the real heart to it it has).

Oh, and I'd add...

5: Is not a dumb person. Because all four of those describe Snyder, but again I don't think he's that smart.

I really think you should look beyond the way he comes across in interviews.

I mean, seriously, you don't get to the position he is in being actually 'dumb'. Yes, he isn't the best public speaker. He comes across in interviews as having serious trouble getting across his point sometimes :funny: But I always feel like saying 'Don't worry mate, I know what you mean', because despite the way he's saying it, he is usually making a good point.

He does fit all you're criteria. That's a much is clear to me.

And yeah, it'd be a big risk handing him the entire franchise, and whether or not I think he could actually do it will depend entirely on how MOS turns out.

But it'd be a lot like trusting Whedon in a way. Trusting the underdog. The guy who is going to work REALLY HARD to prove himself. Who is not so experienced that he's going to be inflexible, but not so much of a drone that he won't provide something that is tangibly 'his' in every peice of work he completes.

Snyder understood Watchmen. I read his 'Making Of' book and he demonstrated exactly what he got out of the comic. It didn't fit with my interpretation but it was valid. If anything his interpretation was closer to how the comic was viewed at the time.

He is a very visual director who sometimes doesn't know when to stop but he has also demonstrated his ability to get great performances out of actors as well as being able to create powerful scenes.

:up:

[The Question]

I really think you should look beyond the way he comes across in interviews.

I wasn't basing my opinion on his interviews, I was basing it on his films that I've seen.

I mean, seriously, you don't get to the position he is in being actually 'dumb'. Yes, he isn't the best public speaker. He comes across in interviews as having serious trouble getting across his point sometimes :funny: But I always feel like saying 'Don't worry mate, I know what you mean', because despite the way he's saying it, he is usually making a good point.

Michael Bay calls that into question.

He does fit all you're criteria. That's a much is clear to me.

And yeah, it'd be a big risk handing him the entire franchise, and whether or not I think he could actually do it will depend entirely on how MOS turns out.

But it'd be a lot like trusting Whedon in a way. Trusting the underdog. The guy who is going to work REALLY HARD to prove himself. Who is not so experienced that he's going to be inflexible, but not so much of a drone that he won't provide something that is tangibly 'his' in every peice of work he completes.

Here's the thing: To me, he seems incredibly shallow. He seems to want to do things because they are cool without thinking about how it fits together in the overall film, how it effects the tone, or what it actually communicates to the audience. A major example is the soundtrack to Watchmen. All great songs, if it were a mix tape I would happily keep it in my car, but a lot of the musical segments seemed silly and out of place in the context of the film, at least to me. He didn't change a lot from the source material, but the things he did change said, to me, that he didn't really get what was important in the story. He completely changed the context and, by extension, the meaning of "nothing ever ends," which is arguably the most important thing in Watchmen which the themes and entire story hinge on. I get the feeling he didn't keep it the way it was because it was "just a line" and "could be said by anybody," and wasn't as important as the spectacle scenes like Dr. M in Vietnam. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how he comes off to me.

And Suckerpunch, which he had complete creative control over, was a very stupid movie.

I don't hate the guy, and I really like 300, but I just don't think he's a very smart director. And I think a JLA movie needs smart. Or at least, I'd prefer it.

[hopefuldreamer]

I wasn't basing my opinion on his interviews, I was basing it on his films that I've seen.

Michael Bay calls that into question.

Here's the thing: To me, he seems incredibly shallow. He seems to want to do things because they are cool without thinking about how it fits together in the overall film, how it effects the tone, or what it actually communicates to the audience. A major example is the soundtrack to Watchmen. All great songs, if it were a mix tape I would happily keep it in my car, but a lot of the musical segments seemed silly and out of place in the context of the film, at least to me. He didn't change a lot from the source material, but the things he did change said, to me, that he didn't really get what was important in the story. He completely changed the context and, by extension, the meaning of "nothing ever ends," which is arguably the most important thing in Watchmen which the themes and entire story hinge on. I get the feeling he didn't keep it the way it was because it was "just a line" and "could be said by anybody," and wasn't as important as the spectacle scenes like Dr. M in Vietnam. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how he comes off to me.

And Suckerpunch, which he had complete creative control over, was a very stupid movie.

I don't hate the guy, and I really like 300, but I just don't think he's a very smart director. And I think a JLA movie needs smart. Or at least, I'd prefer it.

I'm just gonna have to agree to disagree here.

Everything you've just said, I feel the exact opposite about pretty much.

But then plenty of people call Buffy stupid. Plenty of people call comics stupid. And it's more about taste and interpretation than it is about actual intelligence level IMO.

P.S. Just because Michael Bay's movies aren't in any way trying to be intelligent, doesn't mean the man is stupid...

[solidsnake86]

Bryan Singer.....

[The Question]

Well, at least there's no pre-existing Justice League film for him to homage to the point of basically making a remake.

[youkaisama]

Here's the thing: To me, he seems incredibly shallow. He seems to want to do things because they are cool without thinking about how it fits together in the overall film, how it effects the tone, or what it actually communicates to the audience. A major example is the soundtrack to Watchmen. All great songs, if it were a mix tape I would happily keep it in my car, but a lot of the musical segments seemed silly and out of place in the context of the film, at least to me. He didn't change a lot from the source material, but the things he did change said, to me, that he didn't really get what was important in the story. He completely changed the context and, by extension, the meaning of "nothing ever ends," which is arguably the most important thing in Watchmen which the themes and entire story hinge on. I get the feeling he didn't keep it the way it was because it was "just a line" and "could be said by anybody," and wasn't as important as the spectacle scenes like Dr. M in Vietnam. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how he comes off to me.

And Suckerpunch, which he had complete creative control over, was a very stupid movie.

I don't hate the guy, and I really like 300, but I just don't think he's a very smart director. And I think a JLA movie needs smart. Or at least, I'd prefer it.

I agree with The Question, and that's why part of me is really worried how Man of Steel will turn out to be.

Imo, Snyder didn't really understand Watchmen, and you can see that how he drew out the sex scene, and went over the top with the violence in the film, changed the name Minutemen to Watchmen in the movie, and the changed ending, just some of the points. It totally blows the realism and subtlety of Watchmen out of the water.
(To avoid argument, yes, Dr. Manhattan had super powers, but the reaction of the people and society around him was grounded in realism).

I could ramble on about Watchmen, but that make this post off-topic.

Thing is, I feel like the only reason Watchmen and 300 were watchable because the source materials were exceptional.

So yeah, I wouldn't want to pick Snyder as director.

[cabel]

Edgar Wright

[solidsnake86]

Well, at least there's no pre-existing Justice League film for him to homage to the point of basically making a remake.

True, still think x-2 is the best team film.

[TheScarecrow]

Brad Bird.

ABSOLUTELY. Sign him up. Best suggestion I've heard.

[DoomsdayApex]

ABSOLUTELY. Sign him up. Best suggestion I've heard.

He'll be too busy. :csad:

[TheScarecrow]

It sounds like a cop-out choice, but what about David Yates? He's clearly got a good working relationship with WB and his later Harry Potter movies show someone who has clearly got a grip on how to make a blockbuster. His action sequences become extraordinary, the last three HP's were absolutely gorgeous to look at and he's very good at striking a tone between fun and serious that I think WB will be aiming for with this.

[flickchick85]

Well, I said it in another thread, but I just want to echo the sentiment of Brad Bird. There's just no better option, imo. And as for him being too busy for it, we don't even know when this thing is happening yet (I mean, so far they don't even have a first draft of a script), so I don't think that's a certainty at this point.

[RoughNTumble]

ghost protocol was amazing tbqh

[Léo Ho Tep]

What we need is a director with a real visual flair. But we also need some great writers, because JLA needs to have more than heart. It needs to have some depth, it needs to use concepts such as justice, truth, trust, and it needs to inspire people the way Dc characters can inspire us.

[Mikelus]

I'm just gonna have to agree to disagree here.

Everything you've just said, I feel the exact opposite about pretty much.

But then plenty of people call Buffy stupid. Plenty of people call comics stupid. And it's more about taste and interpretation than it is about actual intelligence level IMO.

P.S. Just because Michael Bay's movies aren't in any way trying to be intelligent, doesn't mean the man is stupid...

Exactly, most people think comics are for kids, that's just silly stuff, etc. And Bay is a cynic, he gives the masses what they want.

If MOS is a success, Snyder would be a good choice, but Brad Bird is more talented, he's the right man for the job: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Bird

[Tony Stark]

True, still think x-2 is the best team film.

Gotta disagree here. x2 was not a team film is was Wolverine and the X-men. Avengers pretty much wiped the floor with X2 with respect to how it treated the individual characters.

Having said that, Singer is a good director and it wasn't his fault X2 went that way. That was more Lauren Shuler Donner that force X-men in to a Wolverine franchise.

[DoomsdayApex]

Yeah, people give Snyder way too much guff. I like the guy and he's a very good director (Sucker Punch sucked but it felt like an awesome music video).

[Bruce_Begins]

Brad Bird X 10

[DoomsdayApex]

Gotta disagree here. x2 was not a team film is was Wolverine and the X-men. Avengers pretty much wiped the floor with X2 with respect to how it treated the individual characters.

Having said that, Singer is a good director and it wasn't his fault X2 went that way. That was more Lauren Shuler Donner that force X-men in to a Wolverine franchise.

I view it this way, The Avengers definitely had the better character moments/interactions and action set-pieces by a landslide but X2 is the more well-rounded film overall.

[Tony Stark]

I view it this way, The Avengers definitely had the better character moments/interactions and action set-pieces by a landslide but X2 is the more well-rounded film overall.

I'm not sure what you mean by "well-rounded". X2 was a good film, although a bit overrated by most, and I thought so at the time when people were already marking it the best in the genre, when I didn't feel it was as good as the first Spider-man.

To me you had gross mishandling of the characters in that film. Other than Striker and Logan everyone is fumbling around in that movie. Heck they didn't even do Xavier justice in that movie, after the first movie where he spends the critical moments in a coma, in this one he spends 2/3 of it in a hallucination trying to kill off the mutants. It was enjoyable at the time, when I look back at it all I see are flaws.

[DoomsdayApex]

I'm not sure what you mean by "well-rounded". X2 was a good film, although a bit overrated by most, and I thought so at the time when people were already marking it the best in the genre, when I didn't feel it was as good as the first Spider-man.

To me you had gross mishandling of the characters in that film. Other than Striker and Logan everyone is fumbling around in that movie. Heck they didn't even do Xavier justice in that movie, after the first movie where he spends the critical moments in a coma, in this one he spends 2/3 of it in a hallucination trying to kill off the mutants. It was enjoyable at the time, when I look back at it all I see are flaws.

Eh, The Avengers has it's big flaws as well. There were some things that X2 did way better than The Avengers. For example, Coulson's death had no impact on me (and I still question as to why the heroes would rally behind his death), yet Grey's death had the opposite effect on me. Jean's death was truly crushing to the team and audience.

X2 has it's flaws too (no doubt), especially when arriving to the characters and how they were handled, but I found the story and climax to be more engaging than The Avengers.

[Tony Stark]

Eh, The Avengers has it's big flaws as well. There were some things that X2 did way better than The Avengers. For example, Coulson's death had no impact on me (and I still question as to why the heroes would rally behind his death), yet Grey's death had the opposite effect on me. Jean's death was truly crushing to the team and audience.

X2 has it's flaws too (no doubt), especially when arriving to the characters and how they were handled, but I found the story and climax to be more engaging than The Avengers.

Every movie has flaws, they're made buy humans. ;)

What I was getting at is that Avengers I feel is the better ensemble film. Although it's all subjective.

[DoomsdayApex]

Every movie has flaws, they're made buy humans. ;)

What I was getting at is that Avengers I feel is the better ensemble film. Although it's all subjective.

That I agree with. :up:

[mat-chow]

1. Peter Jackson
2. Peter Jackson
3. Peter Jackson

Bird and Cuaron are both great choices as well. Would Jackson be too close to a LOTR ensemble type film? I don't know, it seems safe yet f-ing perfect to me.

[hopefuldreamer]

Eh, The Avengers has it's big flaws as well. There were some things that X2 did way better than The Avengers. For example, Coulson's death had no impact on me (and I still question as to why the heroes would rally behind his death), yet Grey's death had the opposite effect on me. Jean's death was truly crushing to the team and audience.

X2 has it's flaws too (no doubt), especially when arriving to the characters and how they were handled, but I found the story and climax to be more engaging than The Avengers.

Weird... for me it's the other way round. I've cried at Coulson's death every time, but Jean's death in X2 has never made me shed a tear. And I cry at most things.

[Reel]

Duncan Jones, Matt Reeves, David Yates, Darren Aranofsky

[The Question]

(and I still question as to why the heroes would rally behind his death)

Because he was someone they knew personally who died. :huh:

[DoomsdayApex]

Weird... for me it's the other way round. I've cried at Coulson's death every time, but Jean's death in X2 has never made me shed a tear. And I cry at most things.

Coulson meant nothing to me. He was a background character who was only used for the SHIELD plot device. His character never got development or growth. Thus, a 'meh' reaction to Agent Coulson kicking the bucket.

Jean was a character who was established from the previous installment, and her sacrifice in X2 was much more emotional, in my opinion.

Because he was someone they knew personally who died. :huh:

Steve Rogers and Bruce Banner had never met Coulson prior to the events that took place onboard the Hellcarrier, Tony Stark never acknowledged Coulson as a friend until he died and Thor had only talked to Coulson 2-3x in Thor & The Avengers.

Sorry, I still don't see it. He was an associate at best (from what was perceived), not a teammate or close friend.

[solidsnake86]

Coulson meant nothing to me. He was a background character who was only used for the SHIELD plot device. His character never got development or growth. Thus, a 'meh' reaction to Agent Coulson kicking the bucket.

Jean was a character who was established from the previous installment, and her sacrifice in X2 was much more emotional, in my opinion.



Steve Rogers and Bruce Banner had never met Coulson prior to the events that took place onboard the Hellcarrier, Tony Stark never acknowledged Coulson as a friend until he died and Thor had only talked to Coulson 2-3x in Thor & The Avengers.

Sorry, I still don't see it. He was an associate at best (from what was perceived), not a teammate or close friend.


I agree with you here, they made his death more important then it should have been considering his screen time in the previous films. Jeans death was much more emotional but maybe it wasn't for some fans because we all knew she was going to be returning as the phoenix.

[Léo Ho Tep]

Coulson was as much a friend to them as an ant passing by.

[Tony Stark]

Jean didn't die in X2, her real death in X3 was a joke. The death scene is X2 was a copycat of the death of Spock from Star Trek 2.

[DoomsdayApex]

Jean didn't die in X2, her real death in X3 was a joke. The death scene is X2 was a copycat of the death of Spock from Star Trek 2.

That's not the point. The 'death' scene in X2 held more emotional weight than in The Avengers. Honestly, I don't know why fans would feel anything for a character that received no background or development.

Copycat? Let's not get petty here. The Avengers' death scene wasn't too original either.

[Tony Stark]

That's not the point. The 'death' scene in X2 held more emotional weight than in The Avengers. Honestly, I don't know why fans would feel anything for a character that received no background or development.

Copycat? Let's not get petty here. The Avengers' death scene wasn't too original either.

Yes it was a copycat and Singer even said as much. Hell Jean even does the "Space the Final Frontier..." speech at the end. Heck even the closing music during that is very similar to Star Trek 2.

The whole X-men series is a shadow of what it could have been, but that's got nothing to do with Justice League so I'll move on.

[JAK®]

Coulson meant nothing to me. He was a background character who was only used for the SHIELD plot device. His character never got development or growth.
That's not correct.

Let's take a look back, shall we? In Iron Man, we are introduced to Coulson as an unassuming, average guy in a suit who just wants to book an appointment. When he finally gets that appointment, it is interrupted by Iron Monger's rampage at Stark Industries. He surprises everyone by leading a team of agents and breaking into the facility with his gadgets.

In Iron Man 2, he reveals a new side to his personality when he is assigned as Stark's supervisor. He takes no attitude from Stark, which immediately makes him a character of note because he is one of the few who can handle his personality. Granted, Tony eventually escapes but that's because he's the main character.

In Thor, he is in charge of a makeshift SHIELD facility, which tells us that he has some authority beyond being an agent on the field. He personally interrogates Thor, which similar to his role in Iron Man 2 makes him grow as a character, moving from a simple supporting character to a character as heroic as the superheroes themselves. This is actually the film that does most for his character, as when Dr. Selvig claims Thor he sees straight through his lies but allows them to go anyway, as he senses good in Thor and wants to see how the situation develops. He takes on The Destroyer himself, strutting up to it because he was under the impression that it was a Stark creation. ("He never tells me anything", another indicator of the growing rapport between him and Stark). He gets an open acknowledgment of respect from Thor at the end, and is instrumental in Thor learning to cooperate with others.

Finally we get to The Avengers, where we see that he has befriended Pepper Potts and find out that he is romantically involved with a Cellist from Portland. We learn that he is quite shy when it comes to romance because he obviously hasn't made his feelings clear to her. We then find out that he is a Captain America fanboy, particularly interested in collecting trading cards. His comment "we need a little old fashioned" reveals his investment in The Avengers initiative, and exactly why he was so involved in all these heroes' lives. He has an optimistic view of the world and believes in heroes, and that good will triumph over evil. He even says in his death scene that he risked his life just to give them the push that he needed.

This is why Coulson got his own thread in The Avengers forums. This is why his death was seen as shocking, and this is why people are still trying to find ways to prove he didn't die. Because people actually liked his character, and Marvel knows this, because now they've introduced him into the comic books.

I'm not some Coulson fanboy. At first I disliked seeing him pop up in all the movies, because I felt an actual character from the comics would be better suited. But he grew on me, because he developed as a character.

[DoomsdayApex]

That's not correct.

Yes, it is.

Let's take a look back, shall we? In Iron Man, we are introduced to Coulson as an unassuming, average guy in a suit who just wants to book an appointment. When he finally gets that appointment, it is interrupted by Iron Monger's rampage at Stark Industries. He surprises everyone by leading a team of agents and breaking into the facility with his gadgets.

Point?

Background character.

In Iron Man 2, he reveals a new side to his personality when he is assigned as Stark's supervisor. He takes no attitude from Stark, which immediately makes him a character of note because he is one of the few who can handle his personality. Granted, Tony eventually escapes but that's because he's the main character.

That means nothing to me, pal. Coulson still doesn't break away from being a background character. ScarJo's poorly written and developed Black Widow had more screen time and dialogue than Agent Coulson did.

In Thor, he is in charge of a makeshift SHIELD facility, which tells us that he has some authority beyond being an agent on the field. He personally interrogates Thor, which similar to his role in Iron Man 2 makes him grow as a character, moving from a simple supporting character to a character as heroic as the superheroes themselves. This is actually the film that does most for his character, as when Dr. Selvig claims Thor he sees straight through his lies but allows them to go anyway, as he senses good in Thor and wants to see how the situation develops. He takes on The Destroyer himself, strutting up to it because he was under the impression that it was a Stark creation. ("He never tells me anything", another indicator of the growing rapport between him and Stark). He gets an open acknowledgment of respect from Thor at the end, and is instrumental in Thor learning to cooperate with others.

I'm waiting for the part where I give a damn about who Agent Coulson is as a character in Thor.

Finally we get to The Avengers, where we see that he has befriended Pepper Potts and find out that he is romantically involved with a Cellist from Portland. We learn that he is quite shy when it comes to romance because he obviously hasn't made his feelings clear to her. We then find out that he is a Captain America fanboy, particularly interested in collecting trading cards. His comment "we need a little old fashioned" reveals his investment in The Avengers initiative, and exactly why he was so involved in all these heroes' lives. He has an optimistic view of the world and believes in heroes, and that good will triumph over evil. He even says in his death scene that he risked his life just to give them the push that he needed.

Once again, I'm waiting for the part where I'm suppose to care. Someone explaining what type of man he was after he died doesn't cut it for me. His death could not be inspiring when his 'relationship' with these heroes never flurished.

This is why Coulson got his own thread in The Avengers forums. This is why his death was seen as shocking, and this is why people are still trying to find ways to prove he didn't die. Because people actually liked his character, and Marvel knows this, because now they've introduced him into the comic books.

His death wasn't shocking nor was it important to me. The character receiving minimal development and growth (from single digit minutes of footage) doesn't qualify as established.

I'm not some Coulson fanboy. At first I disliked seeing him pop up in all the movies, because I felt an actual character from the comics would be better suited. But he grew on me, because he developed as a character.

He never grew on me (and I didn't get attached to him) because Coulson never got nowhere near enough development. He was a one dimensional character serving the SHIELD story line. If you disagree, that's fine, but Agent Coulson remains a background character who was sacrificed by the writers to gather the troops. At no point during the movie did I care about Coulson, or missed him.

[JAK®]

"LA LA LA I DON'T CARE I DON'T CARE LA LA LA"

Is that the basis of your argument? You don't like Coulson, fine. That's your problem, not anything to do with the character himself.

I mean, it's quite telling that you're saying this about him rather than Nick Fury, who fits your definition of a plot device way more than Coulson does. But he's from the comics, isn't he? So he gets a pass.

[DoomsdayApex]

"LA LA LA I DON'T CARE I DON'T CARE LA LA LA"

Is that the basis of your argument? You don't like Coulson, fine. That's your problem, not anything to do with the character himself.

I mean, it's quite telling that you're saying this about him rather than Nick Fury, who fits your definition of a plot device way more than Coulson does. But he's from the comics, isn't he? So he gets a pass.

No, he doesn't. Why? Because Whedon tried to make this particular death a 'turn-around' or eye-opening moment where the heroes put their egos aside and work together. The fact of the matter is Coulson was not that type of character. He served virtually no purpose, for me, just like Maria Hill. Coulson was expendable to the writers, and the easiest to kill off without taking a huge risk. That's it.

Minuscule developments don't equal 'LA LA LA'. Minimal growth equals to 'Ok... I guess. Moving on.'

[JAK®]

Coulson's massive fanbase doesn't see it that way. He obviously made an impression on them.

[DoomsdayApex]

That's great.

I'm more of a Falafel Guy and Ms Crabtree fan.

[MarvelKnight]

Assuming this is still the JL director thread..

I wonder if they would consider Steven Soderbergh(or if he would be interested). Think what you will about the Ocean's Trilogy (Ocean's 11 was head and shoulders above 12 and 13) but they had a bunch of characters with a BOAT-LOAD of star-power and it worked..from a characters standpoint. Anyways, I think he is worth a look.

[Project862006]

damon lindelof should write he seems to like doing ensemble casts Star Trek,LOST,Prometheus but it seems like they got gangster squad guy

[Eddie Dean]

That's great.

I'm more of a Falafel Guy and Ms Crabtree fan.
I prefer the No More Dead Cops Guy myself.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Coulson's death, in context of the movie, is galvanising, because he has the strongest relationship to each of the Avengers, minus Hulk.

With Stark he is a friend of Stark's better half and forced Tony to save his own life, in the process, uncovering that Howard did love Tony. He didn't quite seem like a friend to Tony, but Tony doesn't really treat his only friend very well, so maybe Tony did like him, hence the banter "Phil? His first name is Agent".

With Thor he was told by Thor himself that Coulson would be considered an ally to Thor and that their goals are the same.

For Cap, he was clearly an idol of everything that Cap was and what he believes in, and a complete idol for the man.

Fury was the fact that he was his "good eye", Hawkeye and Widow was because he was their superior.

But that is all bound by the fact the he was the only one to still support in The Avengers, as he was the last one who "still believed in heroes". This faith pushed the rest of the team into action.

You may not like the character, but it makes perfect sense in the film.





Now then, Justice League?

Still wanting Bird, but someone said Jackson, and I think that could be good as long as people don't think he's just trying to copy LotR.

[Eddie Dean]

Robert Zemeckis.

Done.

[JAK®]

Robert Zemeckis.

Done.
He might be blacklisted by WB for his disparaging comments about the idea of directing Superman.

But then again, Matthew Vaughan caused a lot more problems for FOX and they still brought him back.

[DoomsdayApex]

Coulson's death, in context of the movie, is galvanising, because he has the strongest relationship to each of the Avengers, minus Hulk.

Strongest by default considering there was colossal conflict within the group. That's not saying much, in my opinion. Coulson was likely viewed as a superior or 'management' material.

With Stark he is a friend of Stark's better half and forced Tony to save his own life, in the process, uncovering that Howard did love Tony. He didn't quite seem like a friend to Tony, but Tony doesn't really treat his only friend very well, so maybe Tony did like him, hence the banter "Phil? His first name is Agent".

Judging by Stark's reaction on the Hellcarrier, Coulson was a close friend. That, however, was never seen on-screen. It was conveniently produced when Phil was long dead. Thus, Tony's sorrows did not evoke anything emotional in the process.

With Thor he was told by Thor himself that Coulson would be considered an ally to Thor and that their goals are the same.

I've called many associates of mine comrades or allies in the past. The word ally doesn't confirm a relationship or friendship.

For Cap, he was clearly an idol of everything that Cap was and what he believes in, and a complete idol for the man.

Worshipping an individual doesn't make one a friend. If so, Hathaway would be my best friend.

Fury was the fact that he was his "good eye", Hawkeye and Widow was because he was their superior.

Yet nothing was unveiled here other than what we already knew.

But that is all bound by the fact the he was the only one to still support in The Avengers, as he was the last one who "still believed in heroes". This faith pushed the rest of the team into action.

Which still doesn't make sense. No stranger's death has influenced or affected my decisions in life nor has it motivated me. Alot of weight was placed on Coulson's death to bring the team together but it wasn't done well, in my opinion.

You may not like the character, but it makes perfect sense in the film.

It's not about not liking the character. There just wasn't anything sentimental or inspiring about Coulson's death (similar to Odin's coma or 'Odinsleep') -- it was awkward and confusing.

We can continue to debate this further but all we're gonna keep doing is dissect a one-dimensional character's faux significance.

[DoomsdayApex]

I prefer the No More Dead Cops Guy myself.

:funny:

I wonder if they would consider Steven Soderbergh(or if he would be interested). Think what you will about the Ocean's Trilogy (Ocean's 11 was head and shoulders above 12 and 13) but they had a bunch of characters with a BOAT-LOAD of star-power and it worked..from a characters standpoint. Anyways, I think he is worth a look.

Soderbergh has been a favorite amongst fans, hasn't he? I've seen him mentioned several times. I personally wouldn't mind.

[solidsnake86]

Coulson's massive fanbase doesn't see it that way. He obviously made an impression on them.

Honestly I think the fanbase he has is because of the actor himself and the way he interacted with the fans more so then the character he portrayed. He was really cool showing up to comic con and what not.

[MarvelKnight]

Soderbergh has been a favorite amongst fans, hasn't he? I've seen him mentioned several times. I personally wouldn't mind.

Yeah, I watched Ocean's 11 the other day and after reading how they want JL off the ground in the near future, he was first that came to mind. Figured I'd throw it out on the thread and see what people thought

[Tony Stark]

Yeah, I watched Ocean's 11 the other day and after reading how they want JL off the ground in the near future, he was first that came to mind. Figured I'd throw it out on the thread and see what people thought

He'd be an interesting choice, but not sure if he'd do it or not.

[The Boy Scout]

I'd be cool with David Yates.

[sethypants]

I wouldn't want Snyder to direct, not because I don't like his stuff, but I'd rather he stick to MOS sequels. Let someone else do the heavy lifting.
Nolans should be the one producing all the DC cinematic universe.

[Bruce_Begins]

Brad Bird could be a good choice, my second choice could be David Yates.

[solidsnake86]

I could honestly see them getting snyder if he delivers on superman.

[Whiskey Tango]

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[protocida]

I'd be fine with David Yates, the rumored favorite to direct.

Brad Bird would be cool, too, if he can pull off the tone Warner wants the movie.

And, for some reason, I wouldn't be surprised if Reuben Flescher from The Gangster Squad was offered it, either.

[solidsnake86]

Does anyone remember who was close to getting the directors job last time around. I remember david slade being a choice, wouldnt be surprised if they went back to that list.

[protocida]

They locked George Miller (Mad Max, Happy Feet).

[solidsnake86]

^I remember miller, but they had a list of others as well.

[protocida]

Only Miller and David Slade - who is already directing The Daredevil - were mentioned.

[flickchick85]

I'd be fine with David Yates as well, though I doubt that story had any merit.

[shauner111]

All the Coulson talk on the last page..i have to agree with how unimportant he was.

I liked him. But when he died, even though i went "ah damnit!", i remember facepalming during most of what came right after. The fact that they were all so emotional was baffling to me. I turned to my friend and went....."why are they making such a big deal about this??"..

[HighFivingMF]

I hated how dumb they made him sound.

"I have this gun. I've seen the thing it's made out of shoot energy blasts out of it's face at cars. But I have no idea what this gun does! ... Oh, it shoots energy blasts just like the thing it's made out of. Time to be dying now."

[shauner111]

He was funny but he had very little screen time all together and didn't form any meaningful relationships with anybody so i dont see why they were all so emotionally devestated about it. Stark was acting like he lost Rhodey lol.

It felt like they had to have some dramatic death. At least one. And didn't want to mess with any of the main guys from the team, or kill off Loki cuz he's needed in the next Thor. So they killed Coulson off, but it was too dramatic.

[Eddie Dean]

Only Miller and David Slade - who is already directing The Daredevil - were mentioned.
Jason Reitman turned it down.

[Tony Stark]

You guys don't freaking get it. Coulson was a fan favorite, that's why his death was impactful. He's basically the Dos Equis guy of the Marvel Universe. Coulson was a better written and more interesting character than anyone in Green Lantern, not that the characters aren't interesting, but the way they were written in that movie was uninteresting.

[Tony Stark]

getting back to the directing subject, what do you think of someone like Stuart Baird? He was the editor on Superman the Movie, and Casino Royale and many other films. He has strong relationships at Warner.

He has not been very successful as a director, but this might be a good opportunity for him. The three titles under his belt have been Star Trek Nemesis, U.S. Marshalls and Executive Decision.

[shauner111]

You guys don't freaking get it. Coulson was a fan favorite, that's why his death was impactful. He's basically the Dos Equis guy of the Marvel Universe. Coulson was a better written and more interesting character than anyone in Green Lantern, not that the characters aren't interesting, but the way they were written in that movie was uninteresting.

I agree about GL, but we're not comparing it to anything. And how impactful he might be to the audience cuz hes a fan favourite has nothing to do with it. It's about the world of the film, he wasn't that important to each member in the story.

[Léo Ho Tep]

You guys don't freaking get it. Coulson was a fan favorite, that's why his death was impactful. He's basically the Dos Equis guy of the Marvel Universe. Coulson was a better written and more interesting character than anyone in Green Lantern, not that the characters aren't interesting, but the way they were written in that movie was uninteresting.

I agree that if Carol Ferris died in Avengers, it wouldn't be as meaningful as Coulson's death.... :o

[hopefuldreamer]

All the Coulson talk on the last page..i have to agree with how unimportant he was.

I liked him. But when he died, even though i went "ah damnit!", i remember facepalming during most of what came right after. The fact that they were all so emotional was baffling to me. I turned to my friend and went....."why are they making such a big deal about this??"..

I really don't get what's so confusing.

Try and put yourself in that situation.

You're a hero, but you're feeling kind of unsure and reluctant about what you're being asked to do.

And because of that... Because the villain managed to get the upper hand on your entire group, a good man has died.

A man who believed in what he was doing. A man who believed whole heartedly in YOU.

It doesn't matter how well you knew him. It doesn't matter whether you even liked him. It's enough to knock some sense into you. It's enough to wanna live up to that faith he had.

And the trading cards were just a brilliant way of reminding them all of that innocent faith.

I think it's sad that so many people are like 'why would they care' :(

[Léo Ho Tep]

I understand why they are supposed to care, but to me, they should basically care because the world is threatened....

[sethypants]

I agree that if Carol Ferris died in Avengers, it wouldn't be as meaningful as Coulson's death.... :o

Carol Ferris lives in marvel universe?
Did you mean if Carol Ferris died in Justice League?

[Léo Ho Tep]

Carol Ferris lives in marvel universe?
Did you mean if Carol Ferris died in Justice League?

No, I was making fun of the poster who bashed Green Lantern to prove that Coulson's death was meaningful.

[hopefuldreamer]

I understand why they are supposed to care, but to me, they should basically care because the world is threatened....

Well yeah :funny: But that's all part of the 'Marvel's heroes are just like you and me' mentality.

They end up portraying them as people who make a lot of mistakes, are sometimes short sighted, or a bit selfish and reluctant, and need something tangible like Coulson's death to make them step up and see the reality of what's happening around them.

Justice League needs to avoid that like the plague.

Their heroes are NOT just like you and me. They are much better than you and me.

[Léo Ho Tep]

Well yeah :funny: But that's all part of the 'Marvel's heroes are just like you and me' mentality.

They end up portraying them as people who make a lot of mistakes, are sometimes short sighted, or a bit selfish and reluctant, and need something tangible like Coulson's death to make them step up and see the reality of what's happening around them.

Justice League needs to avoid that like the plague.

Their heroes are NOT just like you and me. They are much better than you and me.

You already know we're on the same page :cwink:

I really liked Avengers. I will probably buy the bluray when it's released. But I really hope that JLA's story will deeper and deal with the concepts of truth, justice and inspiration.

[hopefuldreamer]

You already know we're on the same page :cwink:

I really liked Avengers. I will probably buy the bluray when it's released. But I really hope that JLA's story will deeper and deal with the concepts of truth, justice and inspiration.

Same. I did enjoy the movie a lot :). It had a heck of a let of merits. But it's just a different creature all together, and I really hope the script reflects that.

[dnno1]

They need to get a guy who knows how to make a good comicbook movie. If you put a director who has never done one before, you more than likely will get a disappointing film.

[sethypants]

No, I was making fun of the poster who bashed Green Lantern to prove that Coulson's death was meaningful.

Oh okay. I didn't watch it in protest. so I've no idea who you're talking about.
I do know Agent Coulson is the guy from New adventures of old Christine. lol

[Léo Ho Tep]

Oh okay. I didn't watch it in protest. so I've no idea who you're talking about.
I do know Agent Coulson is the guy from New adventures of old Christine. lol

Carol Ferris is a supporting character in the GL world, and she's an important part of the movie. and the boarder Tony Stark was trying to defend Coulson's role by bashing on GL. So I mixed up GL and avengers to show that his bashing was gratuitous IMO.

[sethypants]

Carol Ferris is a supporting character in the GL world, and she's an important part of the movie. and the boarder Tony Stark was trying to defend Coulson's role by bashing on GL. So I mixed up GL and avengers to show that his bashing was gratuitous IMO.

I know who Carol Ferris is. I watched GL several times, on screen and off screen. LOL. I did kinda like GL, so I've got no complains.
But yeah, I dont see a need to bash GL. I doubt Agent Coulson's death had much impact. The film would probably do as well if Agent Coulson didn't die.

[Tony Stark]

Carol Ferris is a supporting character in the GL world, and she's an important part of the movie. and the boarder Tony Stark was trying to defend Coulson's role by bashing on GL. So I mixed up GL and avengers to show that his bashing was gratuitous IMO.

And you still don't get it, and maybe never will. Yeah it was an exaggeration, but the fact is Clark Gregg did more with his character than pretty much 90% of the cast in GL. They even made Sinestro boring.

The point is you should have cared about the characters in GL but didn't and the fact that a side character in Marvel has more of an impact that most of the people in GL shows how badly wrong it can go.

The point it it's not about the impact to the other heroes it's about the impact to the audience. Coulson is a fan favorite, and they even put his character in the new animated Spider-man series.

[Tony Stark]

They need to get a guy who knows how to make a good comicbook movie. If you put a director who has never done one before, you more than likely will get a disappointing film.

I agree they need to get someone who can make a good comic film, but not necessarily one that has done a comic film before.

You have two extremes in this, someone like Tim Story who I think loves comic books, but just wasn't a very good director (or misplaced at best), or on the other extremem Martin Campbell who was just misplaced from the get go, but he's a great director (casino royale).

It's a bit of a balancing act. Even take someone like Burton who has flat out said he doesn't read comic books, is capable of great work in Batman '89, but when he was left to his own devices he had the rather disappointing Batman Returns.

The big thing that concerns me now is there's no producer named to this project. How can you develop a script without a producer involved? I think this could be a really good movie, but the reactionary method WB is using right now could be disastrous.

[Léo Ho Tep]

And you still don't get it, and maybe never will. Yeah it was an exaggeration, but the fact is Clark Gregg did more with his character than pretty much 90% of the cast in GL. They even made Sinestro boring.

The point is you should have cared about the characters in GL but didn't and the fact that a side character in Marvel has more of an impact that most of the people in GL shows how badly wrong it can go.

The point it it's not about the impact to the other heroes it's about the impact to the audience. Coulson is a fan favorite, and they even put his character in the new animated Spider-man series.

You need to bash on GL to defend your point about Avengers, so indeed, I don't get it. Also, while I liked the movie, I have a hard time to take these heroes seriously. They shouldn't need Coulson's death to motivate them when the whole world is in danger.

And about us, as an audience, caring for Coulson, I didn't care for him at all.

[DoomsdayApex]

I really don't get what's so confusing.

Try and put yourself in that situation.

You're a hero, but you're feeling kind of unsure and reluctant about what you're being asked to do.

And because of that... Because the villain managed to get the upper hand on your entire group, a good man has died.

A man who believed in what he was doing. A man who believed whole heartedly in YOU.

It doesn't matter how well you knew him. It doesn't matter whether you even liked him. It's enough to knock some sense into you. It's enough to wanna live up to that faith he had.

And the trading cards were just a brilliant way of reminding them all of that innocent faith.

I think it's sad that so many people are like 'why would they care' :(

I wish I could say "Yeah, Coulson's death was depressing and inspirational"... but it wasn't. Coulson had a total of 5-6 minutes of dialogue and character development (in four films total), and the dialogue given to the character was standard.

Whedon tried to make Coulson's death symbolic and emotional, but it fell flat. The execution, in my opinion, was unsatisfactory.

When looking back to the cartoons and other CBMs, you gather a better idea of how to kill off a character who primarily resides in the background (and impacts nothing) with evoking emotional results. For instance, Dan Turpin's death from Superman: TAS was incredibly dark, shocking and sentimental for a cartoon. Then we have Ben Parker's death from Spiderman (2001) and Yinsen's death from Iron Man (2008). Both were brief but they were straight to the point and the execution was done quite well.

At this point, Darwin's death from First Class is superior to Coulson's death.

[sethypants]

I disagree with anyone saying "they made sinestro boring" I believe he was portrayed brilliantly (Even the reviews say that)
Also can we leave GL and Avengers talk in their respective forums? Lets talk Justice League here shall we.

[Tony Stark]

You need to bash on GL to defend your point about Avengers, so indeed, I don't get it. Also, while I liked the movie, I have a hard time to take these heroes seriously. They shouldn't need Coulson's death to motivate them when the whole world is in danger.

And about us, as an audience, caring for Coulson, I didn't care for him at all.

And you are fanboy bashing Avengers to defend Justice League. What's the difference? This is a director thread anyway, I'm done talking about it.

[Tony Stark]

This is a director thread for JL, please everyone let's drop the Coulson discussion.

[Léo Ho Tep]

And you are fanboy bashing Avengers to defend Justice League. What's the difference? This is a director thread anyway, I'm done talking about it.

I'm not defending Justice League, they didn't even shot it yet...

But yeah, keep going, I'm sure i'll think Coulson's death was really tragic because you're calling me a fanboy.

Which is laughable, since a lot of people on these boards know that I've said several times that I really liked Avengers, and that it's a great movie. That doesn't mean I think it's flawless though.

I didn't care about Coulson, he was a supporting character, and I won't miss him.

[DoomsdayApex]

This is a director thread for JL, please everyone let's drop the Coulson discussion.

I agree, but don't add to it. You reignited the debate when you said fans just don't get 'it'.

[DoomsdayApex]

I disagree with anyone saying "they made sinestro boring" I believe he was portrayed brilliantly (Even the reviews say that)
Also can we leave GL and Avengers talk in their respective forums? Lets talk Justice League here shall we.

Yep. Mark Strong's Sinestro was one of the few very positive things to come out of Green Lantern. Strong's performance and Sinestro's appearance was praised by fans and critics alike. I truly hope there's a sequel or, at least, gets a shot at being the Justice League's first villain.

[musclesforsupes]

Please stop arguing everyone :(

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[az824]

Anyway, so I really think this movie needs a big time director. It really really needs it. I hated hp5 and 6 was okay, the last two were good, but I don't think Yates is good enough for this project. It needs someone like ridley Scott. I would love Peter Jackson, he does great team movies, can give it depth and an epic feeling to the movie. And the combination of PJ and JL would make the GA so excited they'd squirm.

[DarkSovereignty]

I thought yates did some phenomenal stuff with his last three HP films, so if he does indeed score this gig, I'll be one happy fan.

[JAK®]

At this point, Darwin's death from First Class is superior to Coulson's death.

Now you're just being stupid.

[I Am The Knight]

I didn't find Coulson's death moving, despite liking the character. The execution was off.

[DoomsdayApex]

Now you're just being stupid.

Right, and your rebuttal was brimming with astronomical intellect. Now, if you're finished with resorting to cheap jabs then the directions to a more constructive discussion involves you utilizing the organ in your cranium, not your glutes.

Good day. :up:

[Octoberist]

Has anyone read El May's tweet about him having the 20 pg. treatment for Justice League? He hasn't mentioned since then.

https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/212421149374693376

[HighFivingMF]

Has anyone read El May's tweet about him having the 20 pg. treatment for Justice League? He hasn't mentioned since then.

https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/212421149374693376

Chris from Batman-News asked him if/when we could expect it and he said it depends on how WB treats him when it comes to Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what that means.

[flickchick85]

Chris from Batman-News asked him if/when we could expect it and he said it depends on how WB treats him when it comes to Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what that means.
Well that just sounds sketchy.

[Octoberist]

Chris from Batman-News asked him if/when we could expect it and he said it depends on how WB treats him when it comes to Dark Knight Rises. Not sure what that means.

WB has kinda blacklisted Latino Review ever since they reviewed the Batman Begins script back in 2004, revealed Brandon Routh as the new Superman in 2005, and Heath Ledger as the Joker in 2006.

That being said, it sounded like El may is not talking about the site but how good the movie is and how it's gonna perform.

[shauner111]

So for directors. David Yates is almost a done deal i guess? Completely fine with that. He suits JLA and it gets him off the Batman reboot shortlist, which makes me happy. Because even though i think he's a good fit for an ensemble, i dont like his work enough to have him direct Batman for a few movies.

For each of the solos, im hoping Aronofsky or Fleischer takes Batman. Some say Darren is too close to Nolans vision.. and we all want more fantasy so it doesnt look like a Nolan rip off. But he could pull it off...maybe. But i sure as hell like him better than Affleck or the other names being tossed around.

Fleischer would be better suited for that kind of script theyre working on for Flash. Del Toro might be approached for one of them, i think a GL flick post Justice League would work. Supermans got Zack Snyder. Wonder Woman & Aquaman are the only ones i can't come to a director for..

Of course my dream WW AND Batman would be done by Nicolas Winding Refn but it's not an option. Any suggestions for those two? Or for each of the solos anyway

[DarkSovereignty]

someone mentioned wally pfister (who'll be making his directing debut soon apparently) for wonder woman. I wouldn't be adverse. at least the film would LOOK gorgeous. as for aquaman, (and this will probably be met with a good deal of derision) but I'd like to see Tarsem Singh take on Aquaman.

[flickchick85]

as for aquaman, (and this will probably be met with a good deal of derision) but I'd like to see Tarsem Singh take on Aquaman.
No derision here. A Tarsem-helmed Aquaman could be the most visually stunning superhero movie ever. He just needs a good script.

[DarkSovereignty]

here here. get a script from neil gaiman, and it'll be golden. might seem random, but neil gaiman is my favorite author and he has dabbled in screenwriting lol.

[dnno1]

No derision here. A Tarsem-helmed Aquaman could be the most visually stunning superhero movie ever. He just needs a good script.

I will tell you this: it seems like Roger Ebert liked his first two films. Tarsem Singh's style is different. Although the critics hated it, I liked the cinematography in "Immortals". I am sure he could make an epic movie featuring Aquaman, but it will be a hit or a miss with the critics.

[DarkSovereignty]

like flick chick said all he needs is a good script, which shouldn't be problem with nolan basically acting like the kevin feige of dc, (at least that's the vibe I'm picking up).

[Octoberist]

someone mentioned wally pfister (who'll be making his directing debut soon apparently) for wonder woman. I wouldn't be adverse. at least the film would LOOK gorgeous. as for aquaman, (and this will probably be met with a good deal of derision) but I'd like to see Tarsem Singh take on Aquaman.

That was me, but it was more of a joke. :p

Let's wait till his first movie comes out.

[Project862006]

i like gore verberinski for an aquaman film

[Karem-Knight]

here here. get a script from neil gaiman, and it'll be golden. might seem random, but neil gaiman is my favorite author and he has dabbled in screenwriting lol.

pffffft, why waste Gailman on just Aquaman? Make him write the whole Justice League franchise. :o

Man, that would be ****ing awesome. :csad:

[combocaz]

Edward Zwick

[Doctor Jones]

like flick chick said all he needs is a good script, which shouldn't be problem with nolan basically acting like the kevin feige of dc, (at least that's the vibe I'm picking up).

Nowhere near that involved. Nolan at the most would executive produce the film and solo films and perhaps in the same capacity as MOS. Not be in control of the universe that is being set up. It's about what interest Nolan. I don't expect Nolan to be that involved.

Now for a director, the choice at the top of my head right now is Brad Bird.

[shauner111]

i was thinking Brad Bird too. LOL my suggestion for Paula Patton as my out-of-the-box-thinking for Wonder Woman didn't go over well in the other thread! but id imagine Brad Bird would direct it if that were the case. But ill settle for Aquaman :woot:

[DarkSovereignty]

I actually would love paula patton as wonder woman, but god forbid wonder woman not look like every other black haired female comic book character.

[combocaz]

Doug Liman To Direct

Tony Gilroy to Write if Will Beall's script stinks.

[combocaz]

Whoeva directs needs ILM or WETA to do the cgi.

[LibidoLoca]

Terrance Mallick... I know EXTREMELY unlikely, but I can dream

or someone else...

[The Guard]

After those MAN OF STEEl trailers...connected universe or not, it wouldn't surprise me if WB was leaning toward Snyder.

[sethypants]

If Snyder were to direct Justice League, it would be great.

[solidsnake86]

After those MAN OF STEEl trailers...connected universe or not, it wouldn't surprise me if WB was leaning toward Snyder.

I could see this being very real possibility, especially if MOS does well.

[combocaz]

Frank Darabont

[I Am The Knight]

Avi Arad.

[dnno1]

I kind of did some research on great modern film directors and crossed them against great action and comic book film directors and came up with his list of choices. The following is a list of great directors who I think could make a Justice League film:

Ang Lee
Brad Bird
Christorpher Nolan
Paul Green Grass
Guillermo Del Toro
David Fincher
Tim Burton
Ridley Scott
Sam Rami
J. J. Abrams
John McTiernan

I would also give mention to James Cameron, David Yates, Ron Howard, and Kathryn Bigelow, but they probably wouldn't do it.

Next, here is a list of great directors from that list who have done action films:

Ang Lee
Christopher Nolan
Guillermo Del toro
Tim Burton
Ridley Scott
Sam Rami
J. J. Abrams
John McTiernan


Here is a list of great directors from that list have done action and comic book films:

Ang Lee
Christopher Nolan
Guillermo Del toro
Tim Burton
Sam Rami
John McTiernan

I would pick a director from the second list, but if you want to be conservative, you probably want to go with a person who has done a comic book film before.

[7heBoss]

J. J. Abrams would be such an incredible choice. I am also a fan of Snyder which is realistic possibility depending on the success of Man of Steel. Brad Bird is also a great choice

[Majik1387]

I kind of did some research on great modern film directors and crossed them against great action and comic book film directors and came up with his list of choices. The following is a list of great directors who I think could make a Justice League film:

Ang Lee
Brad Bird
Christorpher Nolan
Paul Green Grass
Guillermo Del Toro
David Fincher
Tim Burton
Ridley Scott
Sam Rami
J. J. Abrams
John McTiernan

I would also give mention to James Cameron, David Yates, Ron Howard, and Kathryn Bigelow, but they probably wouldn't do it.

Next, here is a list of great directors from that list who have done action films:

Ang Lee
Christopher Nolan
Guillermo Del toro
Tim Burton
Ridley Scott
Sam Rami
J. J. Abrams
John McTiernan


Here is a list of great directors from that list have done action and comic book films:

Ang Lee
Christopher Nolan
Guillermo Del toro
Tim Burton
Sam Rami
John McTiernan

I would pick a director from the second list, but if you want to be conservative, you probably want to go with a person who has done a comic book film before.
This list is missing Zack Snyder. Disapproval. :o

[dnno1]

This list is missing Zack Snyder. Disapproval. :o

I wouldn't put Zack Snider in the same list as those guys. He still has to pay his dues first.

[Project862006]

no he does'nt he is more than proven himself as a good director who can direct huge spectacle,action,drama,and can direct good performances out of his actors not to mention he is a huge comic book fan and is very respectful to source material

[Majik1387]

He's done plenty of action films and two comic films; I don't see a good reason why he'd be missing from the list, yet Ang Lee, Brad Bird, Paul Greengrass(who doesn't belong), David Fincher, and John McTiernan somehow manage to make the list. Keep in mind, other than one of them, I like these directors, but none of them are higher than Snyder in regards to comic movies; if anything Snyder is higher than them.

[Jake Cassidy]

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[dnno1]

no he does'nt he is more than proven himself as a good director who can direct huge spectacle,action,drama,and can direct good performances out of his actors not to mention he is a huge comic book fan and is very respectful to source material

What movie was that again? 300? Legend of the Guardian? Sucker Punch? Watchmen? None of these were blockbuster films (300 was February release and had a surprising foreign box office). Like I said before he's going to have to prove himself before he can be compare to the folks on that list. I any case, if he is succesful with "Man of Steel" he will be to busy with that franchise to work on "Justice League".

[Majik1387]

How many of your directors have done successful blockbuster comic movies again? Like 4?
How about how many of them have done successful comic movies? 3?

:whatever:

[DoomsdayApex]

Snyder gets alot of flack, but he's slowly gaining cult status amongst the comic and geek community. Believe it or not, Watchmen and Sucker Punch have amassed a cult following since hitting DVD and Blu-Ray format.

300 was a legitimate hit. I don't see how one can deny this. On that note, similar to Watchmen and Sucker Punch, 300 remains a very popular film with the general audience (with or without the controversies and historical inaccuracies) till this day.

The Dawn of the Dead remake rarely gets love by those on here, but the film was successful. It's one of the few zombie films to make over 100 million at the box office, and it wasn't bad either. Dawn of the Dead was a pretty damn good film.

[Majik1387]

Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake also started the resurgence of fast zombies, and without that we wouldn't have the awesome [REC] movies, and even less zombie projects than we do have.

[mclay18]

Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake also started the resurgence of fast zombies, and without that we wouldn't have the awesome [REC] movies, and even less zombie projects than we do have.

No, 28 Days Later started that trend. Snyder's 'Dawn' remake borrowed from that.

[Majik1387]

No, 28 Days Later started that trend. Snyder's 'Dawn' remake borrowed from that.
Those being zombies is still highly debatable.

[Léo Ho Tep]

Zombies are living Dead. There are no living dead in 28 Days/weeks later.

His Dawn of the Dead remake, while not as interesting storywise, as the original, was the well directed and engaging movie.

Sucker Punch wasn't a good movie, because the story wasn't consistent enough, but it was stunning visually, and the action scenes were amazing.

Watchmen lacked a vision, and that's what make it work actually. 300 is pure fun. I really hope he'll deliver with Man Of Steel. But I don't think he would be able to direct a great JLA movie, because he would lose focus on some of the characters. We need a director who can make us feel engaged in all the heroes.

[DoomsdayApex]

I disagree Leo. I believe Snyder is fully capable of directing an outstanding Justice League film. Watchmen very much proved that for me. However, with being said, I believe he's not a strong writer (the big reason why Sucker Punch fell short of greatness), so if he were to accept the gig, I would prefer it if someone else wrote the script.

[DoomsdayApex]

I got this strange bit from the Batboards:

http://www.vulture.com/m/2012/08/summer-2012-box-office-report-card-action-genre-and-superhero-edition.html?mid=twitter_vulture

Fortunately for the studio, it was also willing to take an enormous risk by granting auteur filmmaker Chrisopher Nolan control over the studio’s once-lucrative-but-by-then-moldering Batman franchise. Since then, Nolan has become the de facto director-in-chief at Warner Bros., granted an extraordinary amount of autonomy over not just the Batman films’ production and development but also effective control over the entire DC Comics stable: One agency insider tells Vulture that a freeze has been placed on all development of any individual DC Comics character films until Nolan renders his judgment on how an Avengers-like Justice League film might be put together.

:confused:

[Léo Ho Tep]

I disagree Leo. I believe Snyder is fully capable of directing an outstanding Justice League film. Watchmen very much proved that for me. However, with being said, I believe he's not a strong writer (the big reason why Sucker Punch fell short of greatness), so if he were to accept the gig, I would prefer it if someone else wrote the script.

I understand your point. Although I think Watchmen is a different beast. It's a very long movie, and it's more a character study, where each hero has its time to "shine". A JLA movie wouldn't keep that much time focusing on characterization. I may be wrong though. I really like snyder as a director, so I wouldn't complain. It's just that I'm not sure he would be the best choice for that movie.

[Majik1387]

Old news. Nolan isn't at WB. MoS is the last DC movie he's involved in.

[flickchick85]

Old news. Nolan isn't at WB. MoS is the last DC movie he's involved in.
I heard that Nolan wasn't gonna be involved in any more DC stuff, but I never heard he left WB. When did this happen? They were supposed to have such a great working relationship.

[DoomsdayApex]

Old news. Nolan isn't at WB. MoS is the last DC movie he's involved in.

I don't think he left WB. He just scrubbed his hands of anything DC-related.

Incidentally, Gill very recently said that Nolan will still be involved in the Batman relaunch in some form.

[Majik1387]

I meant more, he's not WB's DC "godfather."

[Jake Cassidy]

Snyder can take over.

[biolumen]

*Looks at the JLA director short list*

So I guess George Miller is out of the running.

[shauner111]

I dont really want Snyder to do this.

[LibidoLoca]

George Miller, no wait David Fincher, no Ang Lee, okay how about Brad Bird.... Nope M. Night Shyamalan... I got it... Kathryn Bigelow!

[kewlmatto]

Although I'm not really a fan - would Doug Liman be a possibility? What do people think?

And another name, this one I'm more keen on - Andrew Niccol.

I kind of like the idea of giving a director who's been in hiding a chance to return - similar to what Marvel is doing with Shane Black in Iron Man 3.

Even Alex Proyas could be good, if given the right material.

[Bruce_Begins]

I don't think he left WB. He just scrubbed his hands of anything DC-related.

Incidentally, Gill very recently said that Nolan will still be involved in the Batman relaunch in some form.

I think that WB wants Nolan to serve as a "consultant" for some DC projects.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the end Zack Snyder ends up as a director of the Justice League movie. :oldrazz:

[Léo Ho Tep]

that's a brilliant idea. Niccol is a director with a vision and he's great at characterization.

[metaphysician]

I think that WB wants Nolan to serve as a "consultant" for some DC projects.


So, his job will be to convince other departments of Warner Brothers to never, ever ever release their hold on key pieces of IP? :woot: *runs*

[mclay18]

I got it... Kathryn Bigelow!

Bigelow would be an inspired choice, but I don't think JL is the kind of film she'd want to do.

[TheWatcher]

I still want Snyder as the director of Justice League. He style would be great for all of the crazy things that would happen.

[RadioSha]

If Man of Steel is amazing (which I think it will be), then Snyder should do it. Watchmen was awesome

[Project862006]

it depends but i dont want snyder to have the pressure of doing jl and sticking with mos franchise

it be like nolan doing jl while he was still developing tdk

but he would be a great choice imo

[LibidoLoca]

I would prefer someone else as I agree that putting this film and MOS on Snyder's shoulders might be too much...

[LibidoLoca]

I got it what about Kevin Smith he could be our Joss Whedon! :awesome:

:o

[thorstone]

I think that the Wachowskis would portray Flash and Wonder Woman the best in terms of fight choreography, and they could make Hugo Weaving a possibility for Manhunter.

[DoomsdayApex]

To Kevin Smith:

*operatic voice*

NOOOOOOO!!!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9qst9qFdX1r7g6h8.gif

[shauner111]

The Wachowskis would seriously OWN Flash. It would be amazing.

[LibidoLoca]

To Kevin Smith:

*operatic voice*

NOOOOOOO!!!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9qst9qFdX1r7g6h8.gif
:funny: But....

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/files/mckayla-is-not-impressed_454x374.jpg
McKayla is not amused...

[ThePowerCosmic]

Brad Bird would own Flash.

[mclay18]

that's a brilliant idea. Niccol is a director with a vision and he's great at characterization.

I love Niccol too. If he's not contracted for any The Host sequels and provided it's a big hit, WB should look at him too..

[DoomsdayApex]

:funny: But....

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/files/mckayla-is-not-impressed_454x374.jpg
McKayla is not amused...

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/1063733_o.gif

McKayla!! :argh:

Where's the Russians when you need them?!

[HighFivingMF]

Undercover Warner Bros marketing people walk into a comic shop. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. The name of the shop has been removed to protect the guilty.

They entered posing as fans, but it was obvious to staff by the time they finished their first question that they were not. And about half way through they abandoned all pretence and were asking questions like “what superhero films have had good Facebook pages?”, “Do you think comic fans would accept a superhero film without Nolan’s involvement, would him serving as a producer suffice?” “What do fans think of Aquaman? He’s lame isn’t he?”, “What is regarded as the strongest lineup of the Justice League and would work as a film?” boiling right down to “What should DC do film wise?”

They asked for comics that best represented how the fans perceived the Justice League. One of them was wearing a box fresh Batman T-shirt – it still had the wrapping crease marks. They knew nothing about comics but corrected a member of staff on the year the Justice League film was due, 2014, not 2013. They mocked the Ant Man movie and looked a bit worried when they were assured by staffit was probably going to be all right.

And they looked glum when they were told DC should “just do what Marvel have done”.

The biggest give away for the staff was when they asked what impact films had on comics sales. The staff replied that it was very little, unless it was an unknown character. Their immediate response was “Oh, like Jonah Hex” which didn’t fit with the rest of their limited knowledge – and they didn’t seem aware that the Green Lantern and Jonah Hex movies were not well regarded.

The staff explained how Marvel could make a movie out of any character but because it would tie into the bigger picture, it stood a greater chance of success. The interlopers were really interested in what obscure characters there were realated to the league… and then they asked the big one.

“What would fan reaction be to a Justice League movie with Frank Miller’s name attached?”

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/24/what-would-be-your-reaction-to-frank-millers-justice-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Eddie Dean]

Ha ha, Frank Miller directing the Justice League movie would be the greatest thing in the world. The internet would explode.

[Erzengel]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/24/what-would-be-your-reaction-to-frank-millers-justice-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Hahahahahahaha.

[Project862006]

he'd make superman look like a ***** lol

[Willi Berg]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/24/what-would-be-your-reaction-to-frank-millers-justice-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Interesting but also worrisome. I wonder if these WB folk ever do research on the internet as well, to gauge fan response? Is this a new thing they're trying? Some undercover geek research? Did they come up with it during a lunch meeting? That day? The Frank Miller part is puzzling. Do you think they maybe meant George Miller? If the WB folk got that mixed up when talking at the store that is even more worrisome.

[Léo Ho Tep]

Kevin Smith should stay far away from anything Batman or JLA related imo. Same for Frank. He has his moments, but after the awful "the spirit", I don't think he has what we need for a JLA movie.

[Erzengel]

Interesting but also worrisome. I wonder if these WB folk ever do research on the internet as well, to gauge fan response? Is this a new thing they're trying? Some undercover geek research? Did they come up with it during a lunch meeting? That day? The Frank Miller part is puzzling. Do you think they maybe meant George Miller? If the WB folk got that mixed up when talking at the store that is even more worrisome.
Most people are aware of some ideas that the Studios tried to do/considered which shows just how far their finger is away from the pulse of what is good.

Jack Black as Green Lantern
Marlon Wayans as Robin
Lex Luthor a Kryptonian

So pretty much that DC is a one trick pony with the Batman movie.

[Léo Ho Tep]

Jack Black as Green Lantern would have been epic.

[Dangerman]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/24/what-would-be-your-reaction-to-frank-millers-justice-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Frank Miller needs to be no where near Superman ever again. :cmad::cmad::cmad::cmad:

[Dangerman]

Most people are aware of some ideas that the Studios tried to do/considered which shows just how far their finger is away from the pulse of what is good.

Jack Black as Green Lantern
Marlon Wayans as Robin
Lex Luthor a Kryptonian

So pretty much that DC is a one trick pony with the Batman movie.
You know that part was changed in the later drafts. See Abrams Superman was actually going to be an epic movie if you read the later drafts. However most of it now was put into Superman Return and Man of Steel. But his movie second draft and on was pretty good.

[Erzengel]

But the fact that it was even an idea?

It's just hysterical how far from the pulse some of these execs and plants are.

[JosephCAW]

I would love it if Snyder directed the film, despite everything, all of his movies "LOOK" amazing, it really comes down to who will write the film and at the moment Will Beall's script is apparently making people talk so those 2 together "should" be able to make a great over all movie

[HighFivingMF]

But the fact that it was even an idea?

It's just hysterical how far from the pulse some of these execs and plants are.

But the Kryptonian thing is what Abrams wrote. Then it stopped being in drafts... If anything the studio told him not to do that. There's no telling what Marlon as Robin would have consisted of either. It could have been great, or it could have been terrible. But we don't know either way.

[DoomsdayApex]

Most people are aware of some ideas that the Studios tried to do/considered which shows just how far their finger is away from the pulse of what is good.

Jack Black as Green Lantern
Marlon Wayans as Robin
Lex Luthor a Kryptonian

So pretty much that DC is a one trick pony with the Batman movie.

Dude, as bad as some of those were, Marvel Studios has been far from perfect too. Ahem... Channing Tatum as Steve Rogers and David Duchovny as Bruce Banner.

And let's not dive into the director considerations.

[Erzengel]

I guess my point is, we have those stories, and if that other story is true about the plants and the comic book store, and let's not forget outside the Batman movies, the other DC films haven't been to the same standard, that it doesn't not give off an auspicious start to this movie.

[Erzengel]

Dude, as bad as some of those were, Marvel Studios has been far from perfect too. Ahem... Channing Tatum as Steve Rogers and David Duchovny as Bruce Banner.

And let's not dive into the director considerations.
Regardless, what were the results?

But Marvel movies (Iron Mans, Hulk, Thor, Cap, and Avengers) collectively have been good for the most part.

DC only could do Batman right, turned Superman into a stalker story which is causing them to redo it, failed on a WW tv project AND effed up GL.

[DoomsdayApex]

Regardless, what were the results?

But Marvel movies (Iron Mans, Hulk, Thor, Cap, and Avengers) collectively have been good for the most part.

DC only could do Batman right, turned Superman into a stalker story which is causing them to redo it, failed on a WW tv project AND effed up GL.

Understandable, but you're also criticizing WB/DC for those selections that never happened. Ryan Reyonds was casted instead Jack Black. So, what's your point?

Superman and Batman have had successful installments, but it wasn't until recently that Warner Bros started utilizing their other titles/characters, and they ****ed up (Green Lantern and Wonder Woman). There's no denying that.

That said, improvements can be made.

[Erzengel]

If you really look at it, there isn't a comic franchise DC/WB haven't screwed up. Granted they have or are trying to reboot it.

I believe that improvements CAN be made, but my point is that DC/WB doesn't necessarily have the greatest track record to allow me to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Lastly, I'm not a Marvel vs. DC person. I have all the recent Marvel movies as well as the Nolan Batman movies.

I just don't think it's too much to EXPECT quality and not SETTLE for crap.

[DoomsdayApex]

Here's what I believe though, WB is now desperately seeking for franchises (to fill the empty gap) and considering that they are looking to classic literary novels and [now] comic books, I believe WB is honesty trying to get it right this time around.

Why? Because they have to.

If they fall short again, it's pretty much over for comic adaptations for a long time. WB needs Man of Steel and Justice League to be highly successful.

[Excelsior.]

From the Wachowski's to Frank Miller, talk about a steep fall.

[mclay18]

I think the reason we don't have any news on JL right now (director-wise) is that WB wants to see how MOS will do next June. It makes sense before plowing ahead.

If MOS does very well, I can see WB fast-tracking JL for that summer 2015 release. Maybe throw enough money at Zack Snyder to direct as well?

[RachelDawes]

I don't like those plants' questions about Aquaman. Makes me think he won't ever be in the JL movies.

[Project862006]

people actually believe that article? yes i am sure wb needs to go to random comic shops even tho they work with DC themselves lol

[solidsnake86]

What could comic shop owners possibly tell you about anything. They are fans already sold on the concept of superhero's and the ridiculous characters at that.

If you wanted an opinion on any character, such as aquaman, you would gain more knowledge from a random group of individuals to see the perception. It's like using comic con as a measure of if a movie will be successful. You are preaching to the choir.

The only thing that could make this story true is if it was done for the purpose of comics, not movies. At least then comic shop owners have first hand knowledge of the buying habits of their customers.


Side Note for doomsday, casted is not a word. Don't want to sound like a jerk but just a pet peeve.

[ThePowerCosmic]

I don't like those plants' questions about Aquaman. Makes me think he won't ever be in the JL movies.
Yeah, that was some straight up ********. Did they seriously just call Aquaman lame? Maybe they were just calling him lame to see what their reaction would be...

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Well to be honest Aquaman isnt the most interesting character, nor is his popularity very high in the GA's eyes.

[HighFivingMF]

Well to be honest Aquaman isnt the most interesting character, nor is his popularity very high in the GA's eyes.

Even though he isn't the MOST interesting character, he's still pretty goddamn interesting. And the character's popularity before a movie has nothing to do with anything. Like Iron Man, Thor, or Captain America.

[Boom]

I've thought long and hard about it, and I've made my decision.

Duncan Jones plz :up:.

[JB-the-Hunter]

Well to be honest Aquaman isnt the most interesting character, nor is his popularity very high in the GA's eyes.

Aquaman done right would be an eye opener for the general audience. I'd love to see a badass version done onscreen that makes everyone completely forget that they though he was the worst mainstream superhero ever.

[RadioSha]

Aquaman done right would be an eye opener for the general audience. I'd love to see a badass version done onscreen that makes everyone completely forget that they though he was the worst mainstream superhero ever.

Two words.

Norman. Reedus.

He's got the badass look, the sex appeal, and the acting chops for a grounded, game-changing King of Atlantis

[Samuel Jackson]

Duncan Jones. :yay:

[Bruce_Begins]

Josh Trank.

[RadioSha]

Alfonso Cuaron

He's got a sci-fi film coming out next year. I'm excited to that. Also, Children of Men was brilliant. He's also under Warner Bros. belt

[Samuel Jackson]

Duncan Jones
Alfonso Cuaron
Ben Affleck
Guillermo Del Toro

[ThePowerCosmic]

Alfonso Cuaron

He's got a sci-fi film coming out next year. I'm excited to that. Also, Children of Men was brilliant. He's also under Warner Bros. belt

But can he handle the character interaction, spectacle, and big comic-book action?

[spider-neil]

Give it to Affleck. He is a fantastic director who understands action. Also imho he will be keen to salvage his 'superhero' reputation.

[BH/HHH]

Give it to Affleck. He is a fantastic director who understands action. Also imho he will be keen to salvage his 'superhero' reputation.

Ben Affleck has already stated he ha no interest in the Superhero genre and I hardly doubt he wants to salvage his superhero reputation when he's openly admitted he shouldn't have made Daredevil. Its safe to say Ben won't touch a superhero film.

[Project862006]

But can he handle the character interaction, spectacle, and big comic-book action?

:yay:how about danny boyle then he showed he can hold an ensemble cast in Sunshine which was sci fi aswell as quite a spectacle to look at

[Lobo]

I still want Fleischer on this if/when it's made.

[MarvelKnight]

Frank Miller
Robert Rodriguez
JJ Abrams

[Airwings]

Justice League starts shooting next summer, and will be released 2015.

A look at some of the candidates who could do Justice League justice. I have chosen to focus at bigger directors because I believe their vision can really help this to become something unique we've never seen before

JJ Abrams - will be available after Star Trek 2.
James Cameron - refuses superhero stuff.
Steven Spielberg - will he be available?
David Cronenberg - see Cameron.
Ridley Scott - see Spielberg.
Peter Jackson - involved with too many projects to be available in such short notice.
Oliver Stone, Wolfgang Petersen - have done both action and sword & sandal films and might have what a superhero team-up needs (Stone also good with drama and war films, Petersen maybe remembers how to handle fantasy).
Baz Lurhmann - he's always available... comes out with something new every fifth year (or so).
Terry Gilliam - too "strange" and "crazy" to even be considered.
Robert Rodriguez - more suitable for this than his best friend Tarantino, I dare to say.
Werner Hezrog - open to this genre if the script is good enough (guess it means a top notch quality story).

Regarding Cameron and Cronenberg, they don't seem to understand how their talent can twist the genre over and change everything about how people percieve a superhero film. They posess a combination of artistic integrity and overblown ego, difficult to draw the line where the true talent ends and self-worshipping begins. Compare this with cinema legends Federico Fellini and Sergio Leone who actually didn't think of themselves as superior to comic book heroes. Sadly, in the end they never made such films. But they did atleast have PLANS about doing something. And that actually counts!
Well Cameron had plans too. But it's in recent years he thinks of himself as too big. And it's now, more than ever, the genre would really benefit from having him involved.

[The Guard]

I've always wanted to see Sam Mendes direct a Superman or Justice League film.

Depending on how SKYFALL does, WB might take a look in his direction, especially given the "Dark Knight" influence that SKYFALL supposedly has. WB may want to avoid another director coming off a more subdued Bond film though, and go for someone who has a track record of bigger films and effects (The Wachowskis).

[RadioSha]

But can he handle the character interaction, spectacle, and big comic-book action?

He's handled character personalities in Children of Men very well imo. It was also a crafty story driven by Clive Owen's dynamic character. Children of Men probably had one of the more memorable futuristic worlds I've ever seen on film. The action was beautifully shot and you can feel the intensity in every scene. That movie was very experimental though, with a few one-take continuous shots and handhelds. But it worked for the story

Prisoner of Azkaban is also my favorite Harry Potter film. Cuaron was able to make the complexities in that plot (time travel and character introductions) succeed on screen.

For the most part, I think Cuaron's got a good track record. If WB is going with the route of "when Gods walk among men," they could really get creative with their comic book sources of developing these superheroes as outcasts. And towards the end of the film, the superheroes could earn the people's trust and respect, all in the while, bringing down the hammer of JUSTICE

[Boom]

Alfonso Cuaron would be inspired.

[Boosted]

Rian Johnson?

[Sun_Down]

Rian Johnson?

Was just gonna say that. Looper, Brick, and his TV work (2 eps of Breaking Bad and 1 ep of the vastly underrated Terriers) are all phenomenal.

[Changeling]

Alfonso Cuaron would be insane, Prisoner of Azkaban was my favorite too, Children of Men is a classic.

Rian Johnson is another fantastic choice!

[MessiahDecoy123]

I want Alfonso for the Batman reboot.

But Brad Bird would be a good fit for JL.

[DoomsdayApex]

Alfonso Cuaron
Duncan Jones
Neill Blomkamp
Rian Johnson
The Wachowskis
Ruben Fleischer
Guillermo Del Toro
JJ Abrams


I'd jump with glee if WB announced any one of these names.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Alfonso Cuaron
Duncan Jones
Neill Blomkamp
Rian Johnson
The Wachowskis
Ruben Fleischer
Guillermo Del Toro
JJ Abrams


I'd jump with glee if WB announced any one of these names.

Why not Brad Bird?

You have a solid list but I was just curious about that omission.

[DoomsdayApex]

Why not Brad Bird?

You have a solid list but I was just curious about that omission.

Bird isn't going to happen. He's got like three projects set to go within the next five years.

[Bruce_Begins]

I will list names who are qualified and have maximum chance of getting the project -

David Yates.

Sam Mendes.

Zack Snyder.

Alfonso Cuaron.

Wachowskis.

Nicolas Winding Refn.


Lastly, though not my choice but I would not rule out Brett Ratner.

[Changeling]

I will list names who are qualified and have maximum chance of getting the project -

David Yates.
LOVE this idea. The tone and look of his Harry Potter movies could be good for a serious Justice League movie
Sam Mendes.
I keep reading about how amazing Skyfall is, so naturally hell probably be considered, but until I see the film, I'll reserve judgement on his ability to handle JL
Zack Snyder.
I definitely can see this happening. While I wouldnt be opposed, I want to see a new style in JL not the same directing style as Snyder in MOS
Alfonso Cuaron.
He's never done a huge action movie but I definitely think he can pull it off, Prisoner of Azkaban and Children of Men are fantastic
Wachowskis.
Cloud Atlas seems to be getting good reviews, this would be a logical choice if that film does well. This scene proves how nicely they could handle the Flash and Superman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=MjIPfnp1wB0&feature=fvwp
Nicolas Winding Refn.
I loved Drive but I really want to see his take on Wonder Woman

Lastly, though not my choice but I would not rule out Brett Ratner.

I really hope its not Ratner :(

[MessiahDecoy123]

Brett Ratner will never get the job.

WB can't be that stupid. :woot:



:csad:

[Excelsior.]

If anyone can top Whedon's action scenes in the Avengers, it's the Wachowskis.

[shauner111]

It's not hard to top Whedon's action scenes in Avengers, in my opinion. What was the big deal?

My list of directors for Justice League
-Wachowskis
-Guillermo Del Toro
-Ruben Fleischer
-JJ Abrams

List for Batman reboot since it's mentioned on this page
-Nicolas Winding Refn
-Rian Johnson
-Sam Mendes
-Darren Aronofsky
-Alfonso Cuaron
-Guillermo Del Toro (not a fan of his movies but visually it would be different)

[MessiahDecoy123]

I don't trust the Wachowskis.

The only action movie they did which I enjoyed was the first Matrix film. Everything else was self aware, cheesy, and flat out weak (I'm not counting V for Vendetta since they only produced it).

[Sun_Down]

I don't trust the Wachowskis.

The only action movie they did which I enjoyed was the first Matrix film. Everything else was self aware, cheesy, and flat out weak (I'm not counting V for Vendetta since they only produced it).

Agreed. If you want a loud, shiny and hollow JL film, they're your guys. Otherwise, go with someone who cares about characters and story.

[Eddie Dean]

The Wachowskis seem to have made it pretty clear that they aren't interested in projects like Justice League.

[MessiahDecoy123]

Doug Liman (Bourne Identity, Mr & Mrs Smith) I always felt was underrated.

[Lobo]

^Agreed he was one of my picks for thr Superman reboot.

Right now my picks for directors would be:

Ruben Fleischer
David Yates
Neil Blomkamp
Duncan Jones

[Project862006]

the action,cinematography and scale of cloud atlas really makes me want the wachowskis that film visually looks amazing

[Boosted]

Warner Bros has a relationship with Cuaron, they're releasing his big "Gravity" movie. If they're big on that film, then I see can see them getting his thoughts on doing JL.

Same with Rueben Fleischer and his movie Gangster Squad. If they're high on it, then they may give him a look for JL. Will Bealle (JL screenwriter) did write Gangster Squad.

Rian Johnson doesn't seem to have any studio ties, but he also writes all of his movies. If WB was going the Joss Whedon way and want the director to go over the script too then he could be an option.

I think all 3 of these guys can be great. Though Fleischer is hanging on how gangster squad is.

[Samuel Jackson]

Alfonso Cuaron
Duncan Jones
David Yates
Neil Blomkamp
Guillermo Del Toro
Rian Johnson


My dream director would be: David Fincher