The Villains of Justice League

[Rockstar]

Who should the JL team go up against in this film?

Keeping in mind that JL needs to introduce and develop most of the superheroes in their roster to audiences first, screentime is limited.

I think it would be practical and time-efficient to use Zod from "Man of Steel" as the main villain. He would be played by Michael Shannon.

http://images.fandango.com/MDCsite/images/featured/201108/09%2009%20Michael%20Shannon.jpg

Zod would be accompained by Brainiac, another Kryptonian supervillain.

Audiences would already be introduced to Krypton in "Man of Steel" so these would be easy villains to establish.

[solidsnake86]

Just for fun darkseid before marvel can do thanos, haha.

[Rockstar]

Thanos is coming in 2015.

Marvels already won.

[RoughNTumble]

starro for the first movie

darkseid for the second

[sethypants]

Darkseid. I don't see how they can't use Darkseid just cos Marvel is using Thanos.
Or Brainiac/Metallo or Brainiac/Lex combo.

[RoughNTumble]

brainiac needs to be in man of steel 2

[Eddie Dean]

Vandal Savage, baby.

And played by this guy.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/MattImageMan/ian_mcshane_headshot_2011_a_p.jpg

[Smashlilman]

Darkseid. I don't see how they can't use Darkseid just cos Marvel is using Thanos.
Or Brainiac/Metallo or Brainiac/Lex combo.

Oh The Irony!!!

Warner Brothers doesn't want to use Darkseid becasue they don't want to be seen as copying Marvel's Thanos yet Thanos is a copy/combination of DC's Metron and Darkseid.
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[Thundercrack85]

I really would prefer a more Earthly threat. Especially for a first film. Allows them to focus more on the characters and their immediate surroundings. Gives them room to expand in any sequels.

[hopefuldreamer]

Well if they don't wanna completely forget Green Lantern, Sinestro could work... I mean, they did already set it up for his return, and you can use several members of the Sinestro Corps.

Besides, I really wanted to see more of Mark Strong as Sinestro, and I think he'd be a strong villain type to start a franchise with.

[Smashlilman]

I really would prefer a more Earthly threat. Especially for a first film. Allows them to focus more on the characters and their immediate surroundings. Gives them room to expand in any sequels.

How about Ares and his undead Army. Plus you could possibly add a ton of Mythological Creatures too. I don't know if Wonder Woman has done any thing with Echidna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna_(mythology)) and her children (Most of the major monster and Greek Mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna_(mythology)#Offspring)) or with the Titians.
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[DoomsdayApex]

I'm digging the Sinestro and Ares picks.

[Rocanrol]

starro for the first movie

darkseid for the second

A combination of Starro (as the final boss) and mind controlled aliens (kinda like the headcrabs of HL). With a story similar to the first three chapters of JL and New Frontier. With Martian Manhunter as the starter.

Darkseid could be for the second or third film if:

Vandal Savage, baby.

And played by this guy.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/MattImageMan/ian_mcshane_headshot_2011_a_p.jpg

They go with Vandal Savage and JL:Doom kind of story.

[Spider-Aziz]

Just for fun darkseid before marvel can do thanos, haha.
He should be someone cosmic, and this is a great suggestion

[Llama_Shepherd]

Darkseid:
http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/272/7/e/darkseid_doodle_by_nebezial-d2zpmnd.jpg

Starro:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/797325-starroimage.jpg

Or Vandal Savage who takes over OMAC's and AMAZO.

[BH/HHH]

I'd expand on and adapt the Justice League New 52 origin with Darkseid

[protocida]

Darkseid.

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Maxwell Lord and the OMACs.

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Despero.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/dhunter22/746659-despero_7.jpg

The White Martians.

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/Images/Characters/WhiteMartian.jpg

Starro.

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The Center.

http://fortresstakes.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/justice-league-the-new-frontier-island_center_enemy.jpg?w=500

[cleverusername8]

For the first movie, either have an enemy team (the Injustice gang anyone?) or an alien invasion. I kind of sort of lean towards the first option since the Avengers has already done the alien invasion thing and people in the general audience would probably rage about that calling it an "Avengers ripoff". However, they could do the alien invasion with named villains with faces (like the Appellexians from the original Justice League stuff).

I wouldn't go right into things introducing a heavy hitter like Darkseid or Doomsday. Save that for a sequel. Brainiac also may be too big of a villain for a start up. I may get hate for this, but I'm not a fan of Starro and for a live action movie, that could end up being really cheesy unless if they changed his form (sort of like Galactus in FF2 although that didn't sit well with fans...)

In any case, I would want the villain to be able to connect with all of the characters somehow and not just be specialized to one character (like Bizzaro as opposed to Superman or Sinestro as opposed to Lantern).

[Franklin Richards]

I want the Legion of Doom. Make sure this guy is the main enforcer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Green%20Lantern/mark_strong_sinestro_corps_by_pyrod.jpg

The right hand man to Luthor or Grodd or Savage. Whoever leads the Legion, Sinestro has to be front and center of the group.


:hal: :hal: :hal:

[I Am The Knight]

The Injustice Gang!

[jonathancrane]

Darkseid should be saved for the second or third film. Final Crisis made me really enjoy the character and see how he should be portrayed.

[sethypants]

Prometheus would be fine as well.

[Willi Berg]

What about Intergang. That way there can be more "realistic" earthly threats while having a big villain like Darkseid working behind the scenes.

I guess if they use any alien threat there will comparisons to Avengers.

I liked in New Frontier when there was a sinister force making people behave a certain way. That can be achieved with villains like Darkseid/Starro/Brainiac etc.

[Smashlilman]

What about Intergang. That way there can be more "realistic" earthly threats while having a big villain like Darkseid working behind the scenes.

I guess if they use any alien threat there will comparisons to Avengers.

I liked in New Frontier when there was a sinister force making people behave a certain way. That can be achieved with villains like Darkseid/Starro/Brainiac etc.

A full scale Darkseid invasion movie should be saved for the last Justice league movie. It should be a world wide even.

[BigThor]

I think I'd go with the Injustice Gang or Legion of Doom, it would really set this film apart from The Avengers.

[Gamingboy]

One does not just throw Darkseid in. He must be built up.

I think they should do the whole White Martians thing again, although it should be a requirement that none of the leaguers can be revealed to be imposters.

Unless, of course, it's something cool like, suddenly two Batmans show up, but the real Batman lights a match and throws it at fake Batman, revealing the ruse.

[Changeling]

Brainiac: Benedict Cumberbatch

the idea of Vandal Savage being played by Ian McShane is brilliant as well

Sadly, the idea of Darkseid being the villain makes not too much sense seeing as Avengers 2 will have Thanos.. Obviously Darkseid wouldnt be copying Thanos but the general audience would think the two are too similar.

Max Lord and the Omacs IMO still works. I can see Edward Norton doing a kickass Maxwell Lord.

[SKSpawn]

White Martians, in an adaptation of Morrison's original JLA run, could work well. That way they could tie in to Green Lantern with an alien menace coming to Earth, introduce the Martian Manhunter as the guy who hypes how destructive the White Martians are and helps form the team, and correctly cast Batman as the team's more covert member.

[Dark Raven]

I say Legion of Doom as well. I'd like to see something similar to the mini series "Justice" which was like a more modern and darker version of the challenge of the Superfriends.

Of course, they wouldn't have as many characters as in that, but it could still be something similar. I'd like to see Giganta on screen too. :awesome:

[The Guard]

I'd prefer to see villains that aren't tied to any particular hero, or who have become serious Justice League threats over the years.

I'd love to see Darkseid and the forces of Apokolops in the first film for The Justice League's origin story. I know its a huge story, but I don't think Darkseid is as big as it can get. Still, he provides a fantastic reason for the league to come together and a great introduction to the themes that Justice League movies should be exploring. And with his forces, there would be plenty of action. Despero could be used in place of Darkseid if WB is skittish due to Marvel's use of Thanos, and his role in events could continue into the second film.

In the sequel, after the appearance and establishment of The Justice League, Vandal Savage clandestinely forms a secret society of villains along with Lex Luthor. The core members of the society would depend on where other heroe's solo films were at the time, but the obvious choices are Savage, Luthor, The Joker, Circe, Sinestro, Professor Zoom and Ocean Master. That amount of firepower may be unrealistic, so it would probably more like just Savage and Luthor. Eventually, with a massive criminal organization (or legion) behind them, consisting more of cameos/cannon fodder type appearances of the more obscure/supporting villains, Savage and Luthor's organization would wreak havoc in an attempt to destroy the league and take over the world. Something of a step back from the scale of Darkseid's plans, but this story would feature rogue leaguers, fallen members, and the addition of several backup leaguers to oppose the rogue ones in Green Arrow, Black Canary, and The Hawks. Despero would have a role in this one as well.

For the third movie, I'd like to see a Crisis/Kingdom Come type film, with the return or initial appearance of Darkseid, perhaps as an Anti-Monitor/Imperiex type, the return of Lex Luthor and/or Vandal Savage, and a nod or smaller role for the Crime Syndicate from another Earth. Probably some Checkmate/OMAC elements too. There would be more classic leaguers added to the roster in this one as well.

Throughout the films, there would be nods/supporting roles for Starro (first film), Amazo (second film), Despero (first or second), Eclipso, and the White Martians. Maxwell Lord, Amanda Waller and Checkmate would have key roles throughout.

[DoomsdayApex]

I want the Legion of Doom. Make sure this guy is the main enforcer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/AuntPetunia/Green%20Lantern/mark_strong_sinestro_corps_by_pyrod.jpg

The right hand man to Luthor or Grodd or Savage. Whoever leads the Legion, Sinestro has to be front and center of the group.


:hal: :hal: :hal:

This. I want a Legion threat with Sinestro at the helm for the first film. Strong wanted a sequel anyways.

[Changeling]

Why the hell would you choose Sinestro (who starred in a movie that was universally HATED) as the main villain in Justice League. Wtf? That makes no sense to me. And the fact that any of you want a connection to Campbells Green Lantern is so confusing to me. That movie sucked. Let it die like it should.

[DoomsdayApex]

Why the hell would you choose Sinestro (who starred in a movie that was universally HATED) as the main villain in Justice League. Wtf? That makes no sense to me. And the fact that any of you want a connection to Campbells Green Lantern is so confusing to me. That movie sucked. Let it die like it should.

It makes perfect sense because:

• Sinestro is one of comic book's most complex and badass villains of all time wielding one of the strongest artifacts from the DCU.

• Sinestro is THE key to the Sinestro Corps War.

• Sinestro has already been established as a presence.

• Sinestro has a connection to one of the members of the League.

• Strong's Sinestro was universally praised by the critics and fans despite the film flopping and panning.

• Sinestro makes more sense than Despero, Amazo or Starro.

[DoomsdayApex]

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[Changeling]

It makes perfect sense because:

• Sinestro is one of comic book's most complex and badass villains of all time wielding one of the strongest artifacts from the DCU.
• Sinestro is THE key to the Sinestro Corps War.
• Sinestro has been established as a presence.
• Sinestro has a connection to one of the members of the League.
• Strong's Sinestro was universally praised by the critics and fans despite the film flopping and panning.
• Sinestro makes more sense than Despero, Amazo or Starro.

The first five points are only reasons why he should be the villain in a second Green Lantern movie, which won't happen, so obviously you just want him to be the villain in JL because GL2 won't happen.

Sinestro doesn't make more sense than Despero, Amazo, or Starro, give me 1 good story where Sinestro alone takes on the JL. He is a solo movie villain, accept it.
I'm sure much of the fanboy community would be dissapointed if he was the main villain. Despero Amazo and Starro are established JL villains, therefore they make much more sense than Sinestro.

He is much more suited to be a member of the Injustice Gang or Legion of Doom, which is the role he ALWAYS plays when he takes on the JLA. He has ties to one of the leaguers? The one member who recently had a complete FAILURE of a movie? Seriously man, let's get someone who is a bigger threat than Sinestro. Hal can beat him by himself, why would the whole JL be needed to fight Sinestro when the ONE Green Lantern can take him on by himself and win?

Hal has the whole corps to back him up, why would he need the JLA to beat Sinestro? It makes no sense to me. Let's use an established JL villain who can pose a threat to all of the JL.

Plus, if included, wouldn't this put the focus on GL? Of all the great villains that havent seen the big screen, why use one that has already been in a movie, and a failed one at that?

Let's give someone else a try, someone the fans have been wanting to see for a long time...
Someone like Darkseid, Starro, Amazo, Despero or Brainiac :)

PS, I don't think anyone wants to see the Sinestro Corps War be the story of JL movies, that is much more suited to a Green Lantern movie.. We need something that has to do more with the other leaguers rather than just Green Lantern............................

[Tony Stark]

Sinestro would not be good, because they failed to show him as a bad guy in the last movie, other than some 30 seconds in a post credit scene.

[DoomsdayApex]

The first five points are only reasons why he should be the villain in a second Green Lantern movie, which won't happen, so obviously you just want him to be the villain in JL because GL2 won't happen.

And what makes you so certain that Ryan Reynolds won't be attached to JL? Sequel rumors are apparently still alive according to several insiders.

No, Sinestro as a villain for JL could still be logical. Your hate for Green Lantern is merely blinding your judgement.

Sinestro doesn't make more sense than Despero, Amazo, or Starro, give me 1 good story where Sinestro alone takes on the JL. He is a solo movie villain, accept it.

Despero, Amazo and Starro require more attention in the writing department than Sinestro since neither of these three have yet to be introduced in CBMs.

Oh yes, The Avengers' had such a rich story when it came to Loki's invasion. Sinestro and the writers could possibly match what The God of Mischief accomplished. :o

I'm sure much of the fanboy community would be dissapointed if he was the main villain. Despero Amazo and Starro are established JL villains, therefore they make much more sense than Sinestro.

Who gaves a **** about what the fanboy community wants? A year ago, these same fans hated the fact that Nolan selected Bane as the lead villain. Fast forward to present day, majority of the fanbase (excluding the traditionalists and purists) is ecstatic about Tom Hardy as Bane.

He is much more suited to be a member of the Injustice Gang or Legion of Doom

Bingo!

...which is the role he ALWAYS plays when he takes on the JLA. He has ties to one of the leaguers? The one member who recently had a complete FAILURE of a movie?

Point? Green Lantern is still going to be featured prominently in JL.

A connection is a connection.

Seriously man, let's get someone who is a bigger threat than Sinestro. Hal can beat him by himself, why would the whole JL be needed to fight Sinestro when the ONE Green Lantern can take him on by himself and win?

I can make the identical debate point if I mention Loki again.

Imagine that.

Hal has the whole corps to back him up, why would he need the JLA to beat Sinestro? It makes no sense to me. Let's use an established JL villain who can pose a threat to all of the JL.

The Green Lantern Corps won't be featured in JL, Einstein.

Okay, and yet Sinestro possesses the Yellow Ring of Fear.

Plus, if included, wouldn't this put the focus on GL? Of all the great villains that havent seen the big screen, why use one that has already been in a movie, and a failed one at that?

This is getting mundane. You keep repeating the same debate point over and over again. How about because Sinestro a powerful villain with an abundant well-written history and he's being helmed by a fantastic actor.

How's that?

Let's give someone else a try, someone the fans have been wanting to see for a long time...
Someone like Darkseid, Starro, Amazo, Despero or Brainiac :)

Why would the writers waste Darkseid in the first installment? He's the JL's biggest threat and will probably be built up.

Brainiac is likely the next villain in the MoS sequel.

Amazo, Despero and Starro, like I stated, require more focus than a villain like Sinestro. An obscure outside threat to The League will probably require a larger set up.

[DoomsdayApex]

Sinestro would not be good, because they failed to show him as a bad guy in the last movie, other than some 30 seconds in a post credit scene.

While true, the angle could lead to a very promising and shocking introduction for Hal, and Earth.

[Changeling]

It simly wouldn't make sense for the JL to form because of Sinestro. He is the Green Lantern's problem, why couldnt one of the 1000s of Green Lanterns take him down instead of the Justice League. You and I simply aren't going to agree, and I'm sure most people on here are with me on this. Sinestro ALONE belongs in a Green Lantern movie not the first Justice League film. If he's in the Legion of Doom, great, I love Sinestro, but I would be severely underwhelmed if he is the main villain of JL.

Don't you see how stupid of a move it would be to continue on with a major focus on a character with a failed franchise? Please tell me why that would make sense.

John Stewart needs to be in this to get the bad taste of Green Lantern out of our mouths.

[Changeling]

You can't even compare Loki to Sinestro. Thor was a success and Loki was already introduced as a good formidable villain in that. That movie made people care about Loki, no one cares about Sinestro save for fanboys like you.

How can Sinestro be ANYONEs first choice for a JLA movie?

Loki was the first villain the Avengers ever faced, Sinestro is typically faced solely by the Green Lantern corps or part of the Legion of Doom

[Changeling]

Brainiac is typically a Superman villain but in the finale of JLU he is a main villain and used brilliantly, I think JLU should influence the film for sure

[DoomsdayApex]

It simly wouldn't make sense for the JL to form because of Sinestro. He is the Green Lantern's problem, why couldnt one of the 1000s of Green Lanterns take him down instead of the Justice League. You and I simply aren't going to agree, and I'm sure most people on here are with me on this. Sinestro ALONE belongs in a Green Lantern movie not the first Justice League film. If he's in the Legion of Doom, great, I love Sinestro, but I would be severely underwhelmed if he is the main villain of JL.

And yet writers can do amazing feats with their imaginations and hands. Sinestro could very well be an extremely powerful villain for JL depending on the depiction. He can go from a Level 1 threat to a Level 10 threat.

Don't you see how stupid of a move it would be to continue on with a major focus on a character with a failed franchise? Please tell me why that would make sense.

There's nothing doltish or moronic about. That's just your disliking of the franchise talking again.

Once again, did The Avengers focus on Thor throughout the entire film? No. If anything, Tony Stark and Bruce Banner were the main focus of The Avengers, not Thor. So, who says it can't work with Justice League as well?

John Stewart needs to be in this to get the bad taste of Green Lantern out of our mouths.

No, he doesn't. That's just YOUR opinion just as mine believing John Stewart is perhaps the most boring Lantern of all time.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Brainiac is typically a Superman villain but in the finale of JLU he is a main villain and used brilliantly, I think JLU should influence the film for sure

The finale of JLU had Darkseid as the villain. Who is a DCU-wide villain.

No, he doesn't. That's just YOUR opinion just as mine believing John Stewart is perhaps the most boring Lantern of all time.

This I agree with, if Green Lantern is to be used, my order of preference would be:

Hal
Alan
Kyle
John
Guy

[Changeling]

The finale of JLU had Darkseid as the villain. Who is a DCU-wide villain.



This I agree with, if Green Lantern is to be used, my order of preference would be:

Hal
Alan
Kyle
John
Guy

Okay fine, well the episode before the finale, which was TIED into the finale featured Brainiac and Darkseid

[Llama_Shepherd]

No it didn't, after Flash defeated the Lexiac hybrid, all that remained was a ghost in Luthor's mind, which then died in Grudge Match before the finale. Tala then uses a fragment of dead Brainiac to reconstruct the body that was destroyed in Twilight, but instead resurrects Darkseid.

[sethypants]

As much as I love Sinestro, I don't think he is a big enough threat unless its a sinestro corp war invasion.

[The Guard]

Why would the writers waste Darkseid in the first installment? He's the JL's biggest threat and will probably be built up.

I don't see it as wasting him, if the story and portrayal is good enough. Something even bigger than Darkseid can be built up for The Justice League franchise, even in the context of the film he's going to be the villain of.

And there's really nothing that says that if Justice League were to get sequels that Darkseid couldn't be a recurring element in the films, similar to Magneto and Loki, and by the looks of things, Thanos. Working behind the scenes even after his defeat.

[az824]

No it didn't, after Flash defeated the Lexiac hybrid, all that remained was a ghost in Luthor's mind, which then died in Grudge Match before the finale. Tala then uses a fragment of dead Brainiac to reconstruct the body that was destroyed in Twilight, but instead resurrects Darkseid.

Dwayne said tala resurrected Darkseid on purpose as a screw you for killing me

[Llama_Shepherd]

Dwayne said tala resurrected Darkseid on purpose as a screw you for killing me

Well then in that case Tala is a ***** and deserved to die.


If Darkseid were to be used in an origin film, I wouldn't see it as a waste, I mean, look at Darkseid's first appearance in JL. He is not built up to, I wouldn't call those episodes a waste. I'd rather see the Staro I posted on the last page, but if the JL film is based off of the New 52 JL, i wouldn't mind them using Darkseid.

[DoomsdayApex]

I don't see it as wasting him, if the story and portrayal is good enough. Something even bigger than Darkseid can be built up for The Justice League franchise, even in the context of the film he's going to be the villain of.


And there's really nothing that says that if Justice League were to get sequels that Darkseid couldn't be a recurring element in the films, similar to Magneto and Loki, and by the looks of things, Thanos. Working behind the scenes even after his defeat.

True, but Darkseid is THEE villain for the Justice League. His arrogance, intellect, strength levels, speed and armed forces are almost unmatched by the The League. It'll take a group effort to take him down.

I don't want him to go the way of Megatron by being someone elses lackey or partner.

[The Guard]

True, but Darkseid is THEE villain for the Justice League. His arrogance, intellect, strength levels, speed and armed forces are almost unmatched by the The League. It'll take a group effort to take him down.

It should a group effort to take down any threat they face.

Otherwise why is the League needed?

I don't want him to go the way of Megatron by being someone elses lackey or partner.

Oh, heavens no. I'd say it could be something like:

1. Darkseid and the forces of Apokolips invade Earth.

2. The Legion of Doom. Not another single villain and organization, but a world full of villains and organizations banding together for a bid at world power. Darkseid is eventually revealed as being behind some component of the Legion of Doom and its actions, or whatever else happens in JL2 (He could be manipulating a government organization as well), as well as taking part in aggressions elsewhere in the universe. This is how I'd bring in The Hawks and Despero, and make The Justice League a more universal concept.

3. Unable to destroy the League through previous means, which ultimately threatens his universal dictatorship/empire, Darkseid initiates The Crisis.

[CinematicESP]

I feel like WB would have to beat Marvel to the punch and do Darkseid before they do Thanos.

That said, I'd rather see a more earthly villain for the first film. I like the idea of Vandal Savage.

[KidHolland8]

I wonder how cool it would be to see Joker vs JL.

[Willi Berg]

I say Legion of Doom as well. I'd like to see something similar to the mini series "Justice" which was like a more modern and darker version of the challenge of the Superfriends.

Of course, they wouldn't have as many characters as in that, but it could still be something similar. I'd like to see Giganta on screen too. :awesome:

Something like "Justice" could be interesting. Tonally at least. Even something like "Identity Crisis" would be interesting, tone-wise.


2. The Legion of Doom. Not another single villain and organization, but a world full of villains and organizations banding together for a bid at world power.


Supervillains working with the criminal underworld could be good, though it is working off Nolan's Batman (which isn't a bad thing.) I just wonder how they would explain so many supervillains' origins, or even the Justice League's. I do like the idea of superheroes/metahumans suddenly having to start revealing themselves to the world and coming out of the woodwork. And a group of supervillains affecting the whole world would definitely be a reason for that.

[The Guard]

It's cliche, but I envision the supervillains turning the world against the heroes on several levels, politically and otherwise, similar to the events of KINGDOM COME. I'd do the whole "Superman and others go rogue/mindcontrolled" in the second film, and build on that for the third film.

But it wouldn't neccessarily be supervillains working with the criminal underworld...that wouldn't amount to much VS The Justice League, as The League would make short work of most criminals. It'd be supervillains working with "lesser" supervillains.

So you'd have say, Vandal Savage, Lex Luthor, The Joker, Circe, Sinestro, Zoom, perhaps a white Martian, and Orm or Black Manta. And then you could populate their "Legion" with lesser known villains, ideally with those villains who have been part of a Legion of Doom, Society/Injustice Gang in the comics.

And depending on the state of/plans for the DC filmverse, there could even be a few strategically utilized "supervillain organizations", a la Joker's gang, Black Manta's soldiers, Flash's Rogues, Circe's minions, the remnants of Sinestro's forces, etc. That way you've got lots of cannon fodder with powers, but also several key threats in the major villains.

And I don't think you'd neccessarily need to explain the supervillains' origins. Just their motivations.

[MarvelKnight]

I think White Martians is a way to go. or, honestly, I wonder how Amazo would work. Amazo is a super(or meta whatever you want to call them)human terminator imo. Maybe have him manipulated even (like the JL episode)by either Luthor(if he is in the universe) or someone like that. I think it'd be cool to see a live action version of the character.

[The Guard]

Amazo feels like one of those things that HAS to be in a Justice League franchise, but I wouldn't use it as a main villain.

I could see it as a robot created to oppose the team...maybe with gadgets that mirror their powers and defeat them, sort of a Tower of Babel-All-In-One machine.

Or maybe Amazo could be Apokoliptan technology, an adroid that actually does what Amazo does in the comics.

I toyed with "O" villains in my second JL script. Amazon, Despero, and Eclipso all having minor roles in the Legion of Doom's plans.

[Willi Berg]

The problem I see with having it be the Justice League vs. a group of supervillains is that it can't just be about two powered superteams fighting it out with each other. It could go a little deeper and we see why the world, why humans need the Justice League and how the villains are really affecting regular people and the world. To immediately start a movie like this with a whole group of superheroes with assorted powers and a whole group of supervillains with their own assorted powers...in animation form we've seen it go very quickly to just being bombarded with two big teams slugging it out with not much story behind it.

If there is this scenario, it would be best not to have too many members on each side. That way we get to examine, say, what a few supervillains are up to, and how the JL come to find out everything that is going on. It can be part detective story before it becomes an effects/fight extravaganza.

While I liked the Avengers, I would want the JL movie to be a bit more than the main part of the movie being the superteam standing around in one confined space bickering with each other.

[Changeling]

I think it'd be great if DC got Edward Norton for a villain role in this movie

[batlovescatDC]

Injustice League or Legion of Doom ftw.

[TheWatcher]

The White Martians would not only be menacing, using them would be a good way to introduce Martian Manhunter.

[GreenKToo]

I think it would take someone like Darkseid or Mongul to cause the league to form. Most villains can be taken care of one on one by the heroes, ie, batman/joker, superman/metallo, etc etc. It will take something huge to bring them all together.

[CinematicESP]

What if they faced an Atlantean threat? It could be a way to introduce Aquaman, who deserves a cool introduction if they ever hope to get a solo film made. The villain could be Ocean Master, who takes over the Atlantean army and wages war on humanity. I guess that would invite Thor-Loki comparisons, but at least it wouldn't be aliens. An underwater setting could be truly epic, and I'm sure the visuals would be stunning.

[MarvelKnight]

I think introducing Aquaman as a psuedo-villain would be a great way to introduce both aquaman and atlantis into the cinematic world.

[shauner111]

It would be a good idea putting the League against a team of villains. Something different.

I also don't want a bunch of bickering to take place where they try to either stuff comedy down our throats or the League being turned against each other because of the villains manipulation. Or some scene where Superman and Batman fight each other and Wonder Woman breaks it up. That last one wouldnt be too bad because its friggin Superman/Batman but anything that makes it obvious that theyre copying Marvels formula, im just not into.

I kinda don't want them to fight each other until they realize it's strength by numbers that gets the job done. It would be nice to see them not fight so much and to realize much sooner that they are a League and nobody ****s with them.

And please no embarrassing the main villain by the end of the villain, making him look weak. This isn't Loki or Scarecrow this is Darkseid or a whole team of villains , i want the villain/s to be a force to be reckoned with. Not some over-confident jabroni.

[MarvelKnight]

It would be a good idea putting the League against a team of villains. Something different.

I also don't want a bunch of bickering to take place where they try to either stuff comedy down our throats or the League being turned against each other because of the villains manipulation. Or some scene where Superman and Batman fight each other and Wonder Woman breaks it up. That last one wouldnt be too bad because its friggin Superman/Batman but anything that makes it obvious that theyre copying Marvels formula, im just not into.

I kinda don't want them to fight each other until they realize it's strength by numbers that gets the job done. It would be nice to see them not fight so much and to realize much sooner that they are a League and nobody ****s with them.

And please no embarrassing the main villain by the end of the villain, making him look weak. This isn't Loki or Scarecrow this is Darkseid or a whole team of villains , i want the villain/s to be a force to be reckoned with. Not some over-confident jabroni.

Definitely more than one way to skin a cat. It's just a matter of if they decide to do something different than what's been done. These are the same people(WB) who have been doing Superman and Batman since....forever, forgetting they even have a whole plethora of characters. Then when they decide to do a different character, they **** it up(GL).

I think if they go with a solo villain and don't go with an other-worldly/alien invasion, Vandal Savage is growing on me more and more. I wouldn't mind the 'team o villains' in the long run, but I would hope that would be for a sequel.

[MarvelKnight]

I wouldn't mind seeing Dr. Destiny. Don't know how much of a villain he was in the comics (if at all) but I am currently rewatching JL/JLU series and I quite liked that episode. Justice League in an Inception-like world would be fricking awesome.

[Changeling]

I wouldn't mind seeing Dr. Destiny. Don't know how much of a villain he was in the comics (if at all) but I am currently rewatching JL/JLU series and I quite liked that episode. Justice League in an Inception-like world would be fricking awesome.

Whoa.. that is an amazing idea. Totally different from the Avengers, which is what I think WB should go for.

[Da Games Elite]

I feel that a team-up of villains would be best for the Justice League. The Avengers already did the whole alien invasion thing, and next Thanos will come up. White Martians and Darkseid right now would feel like too much of a rip-off, and not enough to make JL stand out.

I say have a bunch of villains trying to unleash hell on the world, all with their own agendas, all one-upping one another. Lex Luthor, Joker, and Sinestro would be musts. Maybe Vandall Savage. The characters would all have their distinct goals, and be a big enough threat to justify the League joining together. Honestly, I feel the Joker should be the one no one takes seriously until he screws up the world. >_<

[MarvelKnight]

Personally, I don't know how you do a villain team-up without Vandal.

His most recent portrayal and design on Young Justice was very well done. While Phil Morris will always be the animated savage (much like ironside with darkseid) I'd like to see the young justice version (at least with the scars and whatnot) be the main inspiration for his big screen look

[sethypants]

I would like to either see Darkseid or a legion of doom/injustice team up with Vandal Savage.

[sethypants]

I would not mind as well if we have a Starro like alien done the prometheus way. Or earth 3 characters with owlman and etc.

[Lord]

Mongul

[TheWatcher]

Vandal Savage+Legion of Doom, Darkseid, or White Martians.

[Changeling]

What about taking parts of the Tower of Babel storyline but replacing Ra's with Vandal Savage :D

I dunno bout anyone else but I also still wanna see Max Lord and the Omacs. The Omac project and Tower of Babel is what they should draw inspiration from. Vandal Savage and the Omacs could be crazy, with or without Lord. And since Vandal Savage can't die you could get particularly brutal with the fight scenes

[Willi Berg]

It would be a good idea putting the League against a team of villains. Something different.

I also don't want a bunch of bickering to take place where they try to either stuff comedy down our throats or the League being turned against each other because of the villains manipulation. Or some scene where Superman and Batman fight each other and Wonder Woman breaks it up. That last one wouldnt be too bad because its friggin Superman/Batman but anything that makes it obvious that theyre copying Marvels formula, im just not into.

I kinda don't want them to fight each other until they realize it's strength by numbers that gets the job done. It would be nice to see them not fight so much and to realize much sooner that they are a League and nobody ****s with them.

And please no embarrassing the main villain by the end of the villain, making him look weak. This isn't Loki or Scarecrow this is Darkseid or a whole team of villains , i want the villain/s to be a force to be reckoned with. Not some over-confident jabroni.

Yes, I mean, I've seen 'Avengers' twice, but I am not very interested in the bickering in that movie anymore and only really want to see the end part again. I wouldn't want JL to be the same way. A team up movie can become tiresome if the heroes are mainly arguing with each other or even feeling sorry for themselves, which I felt made 'Watchmen' drag a little in places. The JL should face a threat throughout the movie where they don't have time to fight, but have to work together, or have to do their own thing. Not just hang around until the action-filled climax.

I wouldn't mind if we followed individual League character's own subplots for a lot of the movie. They could meet different members throughout, just not all at the same time. They could have separate storylines that come together towards the end, with a main thread connecting them. That way we can see how they handle situations on their own, to feature their particular powers, or relationships and backgrounds, and then they are all brought together. Basically, they don't have to be all thrown together at the beginning of the movie like a committee.

[Superhero 101]

I would love to see a Legion of Doom but if not i wouldn't mind seeing Braniac he would be a awesome Villain for the League to handle

[sethypants]

i think if we follow individual heroes as a subplot then find them all tgt, we would need a team up. I propose we do exactly the way new 52 launched justice league.

[Willi Berg]

If they begin to unravel some sort of mystery individually, then they could realise that there is something bigger going on that is connected to all of them and that they need to work together to fight it.

[sethypants]

If they begin to unravel some sort of mystery individually, then they could realise that there is something bigger going on that is connected to all of them and that they need to work together to fight it.

so basically like the plot for new 52 justice league.

[Willi Berg]

so basically like the plot for new 52 justice league.

I would want them to go a bit more in depth with the individual heroes and have them do more individually at first. Say, like we see Wonder Woman's world on Themyscira (like in the JL animated series, but in more detail) and then Hal Jordan's life in the Corps on Oa etc. Stuff like that. It was pretty well done in New Frontier in that there was a fair amount of time given to their individual stories.

[sethypants]

Might be tricky if there are too many elements though.

[Willi Berg]

Well then they would probably have to work hard at getting it right or something.

The new 52 had an interesting setup, but it was kind of rushed, kind of too simple, and I did want a bit more from the heroes than them just appearing and fighting the bad guy. A movie can take more time to develop the heroes in a way that a comic like new 52 can't. Just because it is a teamup movie it doesn't mean it can't spend some time establishing the characters esp. if they don't get any lead up films, which Avengers had the luxury of having.

[8wid]

The villain would have to certainly top who was in The Avengers. Luthor is not yet cast in MOS yet and it would be unwise to use a villain not yet seen in a sequel for a Superman movie. Brainiac and Darkseid should be ruled out until they are seen in one of these movies first. It would also either have to be one that appears in one of these heroes films first. General Zod seems like the only option for now until more movies are made. Zod could bring about more villains from the Phantom Zone needing to be challenged by Superman and the others of great cunning in an invasion of Earth. I just hope it doesn't sound too much like the plot of MOS.

[COMPO]

If they're doing a sort of origin for the Justice League I think go with Darksied to have the monolific threat to bring them all together or Brainiac if they carry on from Man of Steel as Chapter One and then lead up to Darksied.

[Willi Berg]

Zod could bring about more villains from the Phantom Zone needing to be challenged by Superman and the others of great cunning in an invasion of Earth. I just hope it doesn't sound too much like the plot of MOS.

If they're doing a sort of origin for the Justice League I think go with Darksied to have the monolific threat to bring them all together or Brainiac if they carry on from Man of Steel as Chapter One and then lead up to Darksied.

If MOS does tie in then it could be good to have Superman taking charge or recruiting/meeting the other heroes if the villain does have to do with him.

[Phantom X]

Oh this is too EASY! The Jl's villain should be DC's greatest hero, Superman. Picture this trailer: (Superman has 2 world leaders by the neck then tossing them like rag dolls) "Mr President, Superman has gone too far." (The Capital is on fire) "We've tried everything but nothing can stop him." (Superman firing heat vision at fleeing terrified citizens) "But he's not the only superhuman. There are others who may be able to help us. (Batman, Wonderwoman, Aquaman, Flash, Martian Manhunter, flash on screen) (Superman kickin ALL their asses) (Lex luthor enters) "This is what I've been warning everyone about but noone listened. Fortunately I have a plan." (More fighting scenes and some Kryptonite) (Superman defeated) (Lex smiles) "Stupid fools, this is only the beginning (Despero, Metallo, and Zod flash on screen). There ya have it. Nothin like the Avengers!(Hey! I mean that in a good way.)

[TheWatcher]

No.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Yeah... not gonna work buddy.

[Spuzz]

Yeh....nah.

[TheWatcher]

It would make a nice Elseworlds.

[Phantom X]

I've already submitted the rough draft to DC/WB and they loved it! When it comes to thinking up superhero storylines and plots I'm like Brainiac on krack. :) I'm sure someone will like my story, like that one guy who liked Green Lantern, or them 2 stoned guys who said Ghost Rider was deep and philosophical, and how about the little girl who said Howard the Duck was cool. They'd all love my movie. Sure maybe I'd have to change my identity and go into hiding and people might demand their money back at the movie, but quality isn't always appreciated right away, like fine wine it takes time. I bet most people who read my earlier post loved it! I am an artist who seeks only to bring joy into the sad world. You're welcome.:)

[ThePowerCosmic]

That was funny. You should joke more.

[TheWatcher]

We never said thank you.

[8wid]

If it's a trilogy I say, White Martians or Crime Syndicate of America for the first, the Legion of Doom led by Lex Luthor for the Second, and then Darkseid and his forces for the ultimate showdown.

[Lobo]

I know I'd want Despero in a JL movie at some point. Hyperclan would be cool, they could have been hiding on earth for years secretly influencing events with their telepathy and when J'onn shows up on the scene they try to recruit him, but he joins Earths heroes against them. I dnt think we will get J'onn, though. My guess is we'll get the Cyborg in MM's place team.

For that my ideal first villain for the team would be Lord and the OMACS. Have him and Waller concerned about the superhumans and the power they wield with the brightest minds on the planet Emil Hamilton, Luthor etc build a super powered army the government can control. Yeah it's a story thats been done before but it would be a good way to start IMO, I'd also have Superman off world in the beginning of the film.

Or if Zod is alive at the end of MoS you can have Sinestro break him and Faora out of whatever prison they're in and those three could be enough to force the League to come together

[ThePowerCosmic]

I know I'd want Despero in a JL movie at some point. Hyperclan would be cool, they could have been hiding on earth for years secretly influencing events with their telepathy and when J'onn shows up on the scene they try to recruit him, but he joins Earths heroes against them. I dnt think we will get J'onn, though. My guess is we'll get the Cyborg in MM's place team.

For that my ideal first villain for the team would be Lord and the OMACS. Have him and Waller concerned about the superhumans and the power they wield with the brightest minds on the planet Emil Hamilton, Luthor etc build a super powered army the government can control. Yeah it's a story thats been done before but it would be a good way to start IMO, I'd also have Superman off world in the beginning of the film.

Or if Zod is alive at the end of MoS you can have Sinestro break him and Faora out of whatever prison they're in and those three could be enough to force the League to come together


Oh hell no, J'onn is too badass to replace with Cyborg.:csad:

The thing with Emil Hamilton could work though, since he's already going to be in MoS.

[ThePowerCosmic]

If it's a trilogy I say, White Martians or Crime Syndicate of America for the first, the Legion of Doom led by Lex Luthor for the Second, and then Darkseid and his forces for the ultimate showdown.

The Legion of Doom would be cool to see. The only thing I'm not sure of is having Lex lead the team, especially if Darkseid is going to be the villain for the third JL movie. That's too many Superman villains taking the spotlight. I'd love for Vandal Savage to be in charge of the Legion, though... Dying to see him on the big screen.

[TheWatcher]

Oh hell no, J'onn is too badass to replace with Cyborg.:csad:

The thing with Emil Hamilton could work though, since he's already going to be in MoS.

He is? Great news!

[Lobo]

Oh hell no, J'onn is too badass to replace with Cyborg.:csad:

The thing with Emil Hamilton could work though, since he's already going to be in MoS.


I'd prefer Martian Manhunter but I don't think we'll get him, at least not at first.

[ThePowerCosmic]

He is? Great news!

Yep, Richard Schiff is playing him.

http://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/people/media/avatars/large/1428-richard-schiff.jpg


I'd prefer Martian Manhunter but I don't think we'll get him, at least not at first.

I was hoping the first JL movie would have the White Martian invasion. That way it would make sense to include J'onn.

[TheWatcher]

I'm a fan of his work. Excited to see this.

[Changeling]

I think I still wanna see Max Lord and the OMACs, or Brainiac....

The best would be Darkseid but Marvel beat DC coming out with Thanos. :(

[ThePowerCosmic]

DC should still do Darkseid, regardless of Thanos. The two characters are similar, but also completely different from each other. Plus, seeing his Omega Beams in live-action would be amazing. He should be saved for the third JL movie, though... After he's been introduced in one of Superman's movies as his enemy.

[KangConquers]

Perhaps a poll could be added to this thread?

[Jake Cassidy]

Despero

[LibidoLoca]

The Bizarro Justice League! Or Composite Superman!

[KangConquers]

I'd prefer Martian Manhunter but I don't think we'll get him, at least not at first.

Was it just a rumor, or didn't we get confirmation that the team would be the big 5 (Superman, Batman, WW, Flash and GL)?

[Zionite1]

This is basically an idea for the Justice League movie that me and Tekken came up with it

Have the villain of the Justice League be the Illuminati!! The Justice League vs. The Illuminati; that would capture imaginations like no other. They could call it "The Light" as they do in Young Justice, but I personally think "Illuminati" is way more bad ass and scary.Have the Illuminati be led by Vandal Savage although you cld through in Ras Alghul and Circe into the mix.Think of it as the council of immortals

I feel like that's as realistic as you can get with a JL movie. In a world where there's a single cabal of individuals who have been controlling the events of human history (Savage being the leader), it makes sense for a band of superheroes to join forces to stop him. There's something about the Justice League that just lends itself to conspiracy theories - I hope conspiracies become a big part of this film series.

The story will be set in a world full of of already established superheroes,so expect cameos from lot of Dc Superheroes.Also If you have a world full of already established superheroes, the separate origins of the League members wouldn't matter.. the only important thing would be how the League itself was formed. In a world where superheroes are the norm, how they came to be wouldn't be all that necessary.So a Jlmovie wldnt suffer from lack of solo leadup.


.As for the Plot itself we cld show the Illuminati manipulating the public to hate superheroes and declare war on them only to get them out of the way so that the Illuminati and their armies can take control.The Story of the Leagues world mostly be a story of how Superman gathers the greatest Superheroes to stop the age of Superheroes fom coming to an end and of course save the world.The story wld really be about the importance of heroes.


I say save the alien invasion for the final film.

[Rowsdower!]

I think I still wanna see Max Lord and the OMACs, or Brainiac....

The best would be Darkseid but Marvel beat DC coming out with Thanos. :(


No need to rush Darkseid. He's kind of a "final" villain, anyway. I'd love to see Brainiac though and perhaps if some of the rumors are true, he'll show up in Man of Steel in some form and that will lead into Justice League. I also think Max Lord and the OMACs would be awesome. I think the OMAC story would be great for a sequel... you might be able to tease it in the first film, showing Max using the OMAC satellite to observe and locate all of the heroes to form the team. Then in part 2, Max could maybe team up with Luthor and perfect the OMACs to go and wipe out all of the heroes.

Or maybe you could have all of that in the first one, if you're trying to stay away from alien villains.

[Zionite1]

I think its a bad idea to have Solo villains make their appearance in a JL movie before they make a solo movie apperance,it kinda spoils them.Braniac should not show up in a Jl movie before he shows up in a Mos sequel.Thats like Loki showing up in the avenger before Thor .
The JL movie doesnt have to use solo villains-There are JL villains as well.For example.,arkseid is primarily a League villain even if he sometimes appears as a Superman villan.So he can be used without any solo movie apperances.

[The Guard]

No need to rush Darkseid. He's kind of a "final" villain, anyway

Only if you're thinking "Small Justice League stories". :)

[Changeling]

No need to rush Darkseid. He's kind of a "final" villain, anyway. I'd love to see Brainiac though and perhaps if some of the rumors are true, he'll show up in Man of Steel in some form and that will lead into Justice League. I also think Max Lord and the OMACs would be awesome. I think the OMAC story would be great for a sequel... you might be able to tease it in the first film, showing Max using the OMAC satellite to observe and locate all of the heroes to form the team. Then in part 2, Max could maybe team up with Luthor and perfect the OMACs to go and wipe out all of the heroes.

Or maybe you could have all of that in the first one, if you're trying to stay away from alien villains.

What rumors are you talking about? Link? That would be AMAZING. I would have chosen Lex Luthor and Brainiac if i did MOS

[Llama_Shepherd]

I don't have any links, but I can corroborate what he said. Apparently Brainiac's Skull Ship appears on Krypton about 20 mins in to the film.

For the first film, if the big 7 is the roster, I would like to see the Pale Martians. They would be a precursor to Darkseid and the forces of Apokolips. As the Green Martians deciphered the Life equation, the Pale Martians seek Darkseid's assistance in gaining control of Mars, he supplies them with extra firepower but only under the condition they surrender the Life Equation to him.

If not the big 7 I would use a similar premise, but with Starro as he is in REBELS. If not aliens to be used, then I would resort to Max Lord and OMAC's.

The second and third film would be a two parter hybrid of Rock of Ages and Final Crisis, with a few bits of Tower of Babel thrown in.

[Rowsdower!]

What rumors are you talking about? Link? That would be AMAZING. I would have chosen Lex Luthor and Brainiac if i did MOS

It was a while ago... back when the movie was still in the casting process. It's from cosmicbooknews too, so take it with a grain of salt. But anyway, here it is:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/man-steel-news-krypton-jor-el-faora-braniac-and-spoilers-superman-2012

Like I said, this might be total BS, and even if it isn't, the rewrites that the script likely went through after this might have taken the Brainiac component out completely, I don't know.

[Changeling]

That website also says Lex Luthor is going to be in it

[RadioSha]

I want Lex Luthor to be one of the villains for the Justice League film. I think Lex Luthor and a Braniac combo, if they pull it off, could be an orgasmic first movie.

Combine Lex Luthor together with how Maxwell Lord wanted to bring superheroes together and you'll have a badass villain. He'll be the unusual glue guy for the formation of JL. Of course, Lex Luthor won't have powers

Braniac will prove to be the evil force driving the entire thing. I'll explain later

[ThePowerCosmic]

I think Brainiac and Luthor should be the villains for the MoS sequel instead.

[Llama_Shepherd]

I don't want villains to be crossing over franchises. So, I'd rather no Lex. They should go for Lord, he's an outright Justice League villain and can easily be an intimate villain as he has a personal connection to the League.

[The1Galactus]

People are saying Lobo but Legion of Doom would be a better choice

[Wesley Dodds]

Oh The Irony!!!

Warner Brothers doesn't want to use Darkseid becasue they don't want to be seen as copying Marvel's Thanos yet Thanos is a copy/combination of DC's Metron and Darkseid.
http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/ThanosThrone.JPGhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080323000219/marvel_dc/images/f/fa/Metron_6.jpg
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg259/scaled.php?server=259&filename=1793575thanos02.jpg&res=landinghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33032/1568997-darkseid_vs_superman_super.jpg


Hahahaha! "Superman! I command you to-- FAP!"

[Boom]

Unless Nolan/Snyder somehow worked a clause into their contracts stipulating that MoS will have absolutely nothing to do with The Justice League, then WB can do whatever they want.

If they want Cavill back as Superman, it's a simple matter of offering him the part.

[JB-the-Hunter]

As long as DC/WB does their job right nobody will confuse Thanos with Darkseid or even connect the two. They don't even have to look similar.

[Boom]

Agreed.

They have to use Darkseid at some point. It'd be completely asinine to have a JL franchise without him showing up. To omit the character out of fear of him being confused with Thanos would demonstrate a frightening lack of creativity on WB's part.

[DoomsdayApex]

For the first installment, bring in Lex Luthor. He'd be the main antagonist (along with US government and the OMACs).

[spider-neil]

JL should steer well clear of Darkseid, it sucks but Marvel have got there first with Thanos.

Can someone tell me if Darkseid came before Thanos in the comic. Cheers.

[ЯɘvlveR]

thanos is a ripoff of darksied.

[KangConquers]

thanos is a ripoff of darksied.


It's all about who hits biggest, not who hits first. Thanos's exposure level after Avengers 2 will be much higher than anything Darkseid has ever had, and that might be enough to discourage WB from using him.

[BH/HHH]

Didn't they say Thanos was gonna be kept til the 3rd Avengers?

[KangConquers]

Didn't they say Thanos was gonna be kept til the 3rd Avengers?

Nope. That was just fan speculation/ wishful thinking based on a strong desire to see the classic Avengers villain Ultron.

All signs have pointed to Thanos in A2 since the first film came out, and it's been more or less confirmed that he will be the main villain in both Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014 and Avengers 2 in 2015.

[BH/HHH]

JL should steer well clear of Darkseid, it sucks but Marvel have got there first with Thanos.

Can someone tell me if Darkseid came before Thanos in the comic. Cheers.

Well not really he was in a 10 second clip after the credits

[BH/HHH]

Nope. That was just fan speculation/ wishful thinking based on a strong desire to see the classic Avengers villain Ultron.

All signs have pointed to Thanos in A2 since the first film came out, and it's been more or less confirmed that he will be the main villain in both Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014 and Avengers 2 in 2015.

Ahhh so one of those rumours

[DoomsdayApex]

It's all about who hits biggest, not who hits first. Thanos's exposure level after Avengers 2 will be much higher than anything Darkseid has ever had, and that might be enough to discourage WB from using him.

Doubt it. If that were the case, then WB wouldn't be attempting Justice League (on the heels of The Avengers 2). Darkseid will make an appearance regardless if Thanos is used first.

[KangConquers]

Ahhh so one of those rumours

Yeah. I really think if they did a Justice League Trilogy though, by Justice League 3 in 2021, 2022, they'd be far enough removed from Thanos in A2 to use Darkseid.

I simply don't think it's a good idea for them to use him in 2015, especially with Avengers 2 having the earliest release date of that Summer. They'd literally be doing Darkseid 2 months after Avengers did Thanos. It's a shame though, since I think Darkseid is clearly the league's most popular and famous villain.

[Bruce_Begins]

JL should steer well clear of Darkseid, it sucks but Marvel have got there first with Thanos.

Can someone tell me if Darkseid came before Thanos in the comic. Cheers.

Darkseid: The character first appeared in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 (November 1970) and was created by writer-artist Jack Kirby.

Thanos :The character first appeared in Iron Man #55 (Feb. 1973) and was created by writer-artist Jim Starlin.


[from Wikipedia.]

So, yeah Thanos is based of Darkseid, and he was created after Darkseid.

[KangConquers]

I have often wondered if there was a slight element of Marvel Studios trying to block WB from using Darkseid, as Thanos isn't really tied to the Avengers.

I'm kind of digging Despero as a villain right now, with Starro as a close second. I really don't want to see a solo villain in JLA like Lex Luthor or Brainiac.

[Llama_Shepherd]

I think an adaptation of Grant Morrison's first JLA arc as well as Earth 2 would work very well as a Justice League origin film, using the Crime Syndicate as the villains, and of course Ultraman's Brainiac as the manipulatory cause.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Despero, White Martians, Amazo, Darkseid... I'd love to see them in JL movies.

[Rowsdower!]

I think they should start off with Despero and maybe Deathstroke, then lead into Max and the OMACs, and close with Darkseid.

[ЯɘvlveR]

It's all about who hits biggest, not who hits first. Thanos's exposure level after Avengers 2 will be much higher than anything Darkseid has ever had, and that might be enough to discourage WB from using him.

that's not what he asked.

[Airwings]

It would be cool if Lex Luthor and The Penguin team-up with a master plan. They stand for the brain.
Then we can have Metallo because he's both superstrong and carries kryptonite with him.

Why not throw in a pack of werewolves for the league to fight?

I also want to se some monsters from greek mythology. Wonder Woman will know how to take them down but she can't do it alone. A bunch of cyclops, a minotaur, some sirens (for Aquaman to fight) and other stuff.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Not liking those characters for the League to face.

[TheAQU4M4N]

It would be cool if Lex Luthor and The Penguin team-up with a master plan. They stand for the brain.
Then we can have Metallo because he's both superstrong and carries kryptonite with him.

Why not throw in a pack of werewolves for the league to fight?

I also want to se some monsters from greek mythology. Wonder Woman will know how to take them down but she can't do it alone. A bunch of cyclops, a minotaur, some sirens (for Aquaman to fight) and other stuff.

Very poor choices

[cleverusername8]

Definitely want to see Amazo in one of the sequels (maybe not a first movie type villain) They could ramp up Brainiac as the last movie's villain and make his threat on earth massively scaled

[Lobo]

I want to see Despero, White Martians, Darkseid, or Doctor Destiny

[cleverusername8]

I want to see Despero, White Martians, Darkseid, or Doctor Destiny

Wasn't Doctor Destiny the one that went into people's dreams and messed with them until they died? I have a feeling that won't go over well with audiences or critics haha

[Changeling]

Yeah he was, but look at Inception, they could craft a story like that involving crazy dreams created by Doctor Destiny.

I still want to see Brainiac/Luthor team up, but maybe that should be saved for a MOS sequel.

Darkseid has to close the trilogy if JL becomes a trilogy

[Lobo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Destiny

He can steal and turn people's dreams into reality. I think that would be pretty cool to see, and it would avoid the basic alien invasion (not that I don't want to see that, too). I just think he could be a pretty bad ass Cinematic Super villain

[The Guard]

It would be cool if Lex Luthor and The Penguin team-up with a master plan. They stand for the brain.
Then we can have Metallo because he's both superstrong and carries kryptonite with him.

Why not throw in a pack of werewolves for the league to fight?

I also want to se some monsters from greek mythology. Wonder Woman will know how to take them down but she can't do it alone. A bunch of cyclops, a minotaur, some sirens (for Aquaman to fight) and other stuff.

They could call it THE SUPERFRIENDS

[KangConquers]

Doubt it. If that were the case, then WB wouldn't be attempting Justice League (on the heels of The Avengers 2). Darkseid will make an appearance regardless if Thanos is used first.

Though I think Darkseid is the best/ most familiar choice for Justice League, I wonder if they'll use him. Wasn't Maxwell Lord in the canned 2009 film?

[Llama_Shepherd]

Yes he was, along with Talia Al Ghul and the OMACS. Personally I would like to see this as the series use of villains:

Justice League- Crime Syndicate of Earth 2. What better way to kick off than in a way that's entirely different to Avengers, solves the problem of why can't Superman handle this alone and based on a story (Earth 2) that shows in a fantastic way the nature of the League and, more importantly, humanity?

JL2- Max Lord and OMACS. In my film series Max Lord and Steve Trevor would be the human designates to the Justice League. This would be a much more intimate film, and while there would be huge stakes, there would be the personal threat of Max Lord betraying them and hurting Steve, and hitting the League where it hurts most. (Based on Tower of Babel and JL New 52 Vol 1). Perhaps feature the death of Barry Allen.

JL3/4- Darkseid and the armies of Apokolips- Preferably a two parter to give the story the weight it deserves. Darkseid takes over Earth, nuff said. Based on Final Crisis, Rock of Ages and World War III.

[Venom'sDad]

I just think Darkseid should come first to unite the team in an effort to help.aid Superman....reason why I suggest a Scout team fron Darkseid Army, arrive on Earth as a MoS film ending cliffhanger, much describe in my JLA trailer & synopsis in my sig.

There's no need to save Darkseid for some suppose third act....

1st: it may not reach that point.

2nd: there are other threats that are just as deadly, threating, and serious, that the team have to deal with. All in the writing.

However, Darkseid being the reason the team comes together and Superman realizing others of Earth Finest can help, coming off MoS, is a perfect way, I think, in the need of the team creation.

[Llama_Shepherd]

In my hypothetical story Darkseid would not be the weakened version seen in the DCAU or New 52 JL.

He'd be Kirby and Morrison's God, capable of cracking the planet in half and enslaving billions with word weapons. Also, there would be elements of Final Crisis (deaths, or perceived deaths).

If I were to do Darkseid, I'd do him justice.

[Venom'sDad]

I hear you man, and actually, in my version, Darkseid would not only be introduced(well his scout team) as a cliffhanger to MoS, but his presence would last for two JL films...be it films shot together and split in Parts I & II, or back-2-back. First dealing with the arrival of his army, preparing a way for his own arrival in the second. Not rushed, not trying to squeeze everything in.... character development of the team and relationship, egos, and attitude, intelligence, and skill leadership, as well as developing who this coming threat is, through two captured enemy combatants(who gives complimentary details of Darkseid from two different perspectives. Get to know him before we know/see him type bit.

Just one of my suggestion....I say make it epic.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Oh, well that's much better, Darkseid is by no accounts the kind of villain who should be introduced and disposed of in the space of one film. Which is why I wanted to save him for last, he'd tear through the League when they have reach their apex. They'd be in their modern Olympus looking down on the world from the heavens and they'd be utterly annihilated. He'd be the ultimate threat for them.

[conan69]

Lex Luthor will definitely be involved.

They might want to avoid having Lex manipulating a threat though - it may make the general audience think Thor/Loki manipulating Chitari.

Marvel is so far ahead here... DC should really be going out of their way to avoid the "ripoff" label. They have alot riding on JL as they want to launch 3 franchises off the film.

[Hypestyle]

I want to see Riddler as the chief bat-villain, since we have not seen him in a revised form yet. Captain Cold over Mr. Freeze, that's too much duplication.

[Venom'sDad]

Lex will only be in a Supes film, unless he creates "The Legion of Doom". :sus

[Zionite1]

Why do people keep suggesting Superman villains for JL movies.Especially since said villains have not yet appeared in the MOS Franchise movie.Luthor,Braniac are out of the question.Suggest JL villains.

[Airwings]

Since you didn't like my other suggestion, I have a new one.

Lex Luthor is working together with either Clock King or The Riddler.
With the help of Brainiac, they unleash chaos in the world. Ares is also joining their cause. But Brainiac has an own sinister agenda. He's only weakening the world to prepare for the real big threat. Something yet to happen, but "countdown has begun".
Maybe that could mean Doomsday towards the end of the film. A fight that goes on for more than 20 minutes, with every team member involved.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Should we have a fan story thread?

[Zionite1]

Should we have a fan story thread?
Id say yes.creating the thread and moving my post

[Spider-Kurt!]

Young Justice did such a great job using Vandal Savage and Starro. An apaptation somewhat loosely based on that would be cool. I really want to see Amazo at some point as well.

[godisawesome]

Okay, here's some ideas:

First movie starts off with either Green Lantern or Superman (one of the intergalactic capable heroes) investigating a dead planet that is in ruins, where the populace basically exterminated itself in a horrific war, and the audience catches a few glimpses of the Omega symbol as a little bit of foreshadowing for future films. The hero then discovers that something slipped away from the planet and has arrived on Earth. We are then introduced to this film's bad guy, Despero. Armed with regenerative abilities and supreme telepathic powers alongside some superhuman strength, Despero begins inciting Humanity to turn on itself, which our heroes think means that he's the one who wiped out the previous planet. His main manner of attacking others is to control someone (Superman most likely, so we can see how all the other heroes could concievably take him down) to fight the others, and his endgame gambit of launching a World War in which he will dominate the minds of the winner is defeated by the League. The League's formation reveals two things: they truly are respected and feared as the new superpower on the planet, despite their protests and lack of any evil ambitions, and Despero reveals he was trying to conquer the planet, and mentions that the dead planet was somebody else's handiework. Someone much worse...

Second film features a nasty reaction against the world by those who fear them. Lex Luthor participates in the founding of a Legion of villains to oppose them, including individuals like Vandal Savage and Ra's Al Ghul as members of the inner council and Luthor inviting the Joker around as a kingmaker among his other allies/rivals, with probably some kind of advertising and arc word like "Are you League, or are you Legion?" Luthor spends a portion of the film running for President, at least partly as a way of screwing with Superman and exposing the number of people who fear and hate out heroes. We becom aware that some of these anti-heroics humans are having strange patterns of behaviour and stuff like the Crime Bible is happening. The Legion attains some, but not all of Batman's plans against the League, and seem to successfully capture or incapacitate every hero except the Flash, who was warned by Batman before hand with the help of Superman. Flash frees the heroes and they defeat the villains, publicly humiliating Luthor and ending his candidacy, though the Legion goes underground, beaten but not broken.

Third movie introduces a gradually worsening world in which the League is slowly falling out of favor, with the Legion believing they can now strike while the iron is hot with the aid of their new ally, Libra, but he misleads them and manages to bring about the possession of one of them (possibly Vandal Savage) by Darkseid, who is the dark god who orchestrated the dead planet way back in the first film. He brings along his anti-life equation and his armies of Apokilips, and the league finds itself battling about half of the world's population and cosmic horrors. The money shot for this movie will involve seeing members of the Legion, especially Luthor, fighting side by side with their greatest enemies against Darkseid's forces.

Now, since I don't feel like just ending this story at just a trilogy, here's how I have it going down: (1)Darkseid is killed by Batman, who is banished to something terrible by Darkseid's parting Omega beams.(2) Darkseid's other backup plans goes into affect, with a superweapon being stopped by the sacrifice of the Flash, who joins with the speedforce to stop him. (3) Green Lantern is corrupted by the Parallax parasite and flees the planet before loosing his mind, taking out Darkseid's remaining stellar forces at the same time. (4) Wonder Woman, in order to hold off humanity's hordes without killing them, pledges her allegiance to Ares for more power. (5) Aquaman is dethroned in Atlantis, because of his refusal to shut the place off to surface world refugees. (6) Superman faces off with the last Apokiliptikan superweapon-Doomsday, and the movie ends with it looking like the two may have just mutually killed each other.

Cue six movies that all act as sequels to these individual storythreads, allowing new actors to be cast in a kind of restart that avoids a flat out reboot.