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Angamb
06-08-2012, 01:59 AM
We still dont know if Fox plans to use this saga for the First Class sequel or if they are setting up a possible X-men 4 after that....


But in case they want to go with the first option:


- Which actors from original trilogy/movies would you love to see return?


Note: No limit in the choices number, so you can vote all the x-men you really want them to include.

M-2
06-08-2012, 08:33 AM
Definetly want Gambit in X-Men! Really don't care in what film, just as long as he red eyed and Cajun!!

Maybe Deadpool and Gambit should have there own film where there more like the comic book versions of themselves because I don't think they will make this X-Men Vaughn/Singer cut

henzINNIT
06-08-2012, 08:47 AM
Everyone but Kitsch lol.

marvelrobbins
06-08-2012, 09:03 AM
patrick Stewert and Ian Mckellan should have been Included but I voted Hugh Jackman,Halle Berry,James Marsden,and Ellen Page.

JP
06-08-2012, 10:00 AM
Cyclops, Storm, Logan, and MAYBE Jean.

marvelrobbins
06-08-2012, 10:30 AM
Jean would be most problematic.If the future sequenze Is suspose to be X4 or followup to Singer's films very hard to Include her.With Cyclops you have the "The Last Stand
didn't happen as far as we are concerned" option form Vaughn and Singer.

Intresting In poll Wolverine and Cyclops tied for first with Storm as runnerup

psylockolussus
06-08-2012, 11:23 AM
Please no Famke, James, Patrick and Ian for this movie. Jean and Cyclops died in X3, Magneto got depowered/repowered in X3 and Professor X went to another body. It would be just confusing and too early to bring them back especially with the cast of the X-Men First Class.

I think if FOX is going to bring back some characters from the original trilogy, it will be Storm and Wolverine. They were the most prominent X-Men members in X-Men 3. Shadowcat is also possible if they are staying true to the comics but I don't think Ellen Page would return for the role and I don't want FOX to recast Shadowcat for the 4th time.

marvelrobbins
06-08-2012, 11:35 AM
They might keep Cyclops as well as Jean out but odds are they will have Xavier and Magneto In future sequenze.Vaughn has already hinted In past wanting Patrick Stewert and Ian Mckellan In sequel.Plus Is the future sequenze post Last Stand or post Singer films?

Wolverine and Storm will probally be In future sequeze.They are going to need a character to travel back In time.I doudt It will be wolverine or Storm.Considering few people thought halle Berry would be back as storm after X2 I don't think we should assume anything on actors willingness to come back.Rogue could be subsated for Kitty
depending how soon after giving Birth Anna Paquin Is willing to work and what the schedule with true Blood Is.

psylockolussus
06-08-2012, 11:42 AM
Plus Is the future sequenze post Last Stand or post Singer films?

Rogue could be subsated for Kitty
depending how soon after giving Birth Anna Paquin Is willing to work and what the schedule with true Blood Is.

I hope its post-Last Stand. I would want Rogue to comeback but she lost her powers in X3. They could explained in the movie that her powers suddenly came back but she's more like a stay-at-home X-Men member and sending her in the past without Storm/Wolverine or just by herself would be odd.

Angamb
06-08-2012, 02:30 PM
Im the one who created the topic and now Im not really able to vote to just a few actors :funny:

I mean.... I want to see THE WHOLE CAST again, LOL

I mean, HOW can you choose just 4 or 5 x-men from original cast, when all of them have great powers? and would be such a pleasure to see them all again on the big screen after all these years?

I cant.

I highly doubt Fox would use all of them, so the question is: how many would they want to add to this movie?

3?... 4?... 5?

My faves x-men should be Angel, Rogue, Nightcrawler and Gambit.

but Id love to see Cyclops, Kitty, Storm, Colossus and Bobby too, specially in a scene all together. that would be a dream come true.

so right now Im not sure how should I vote and how many. I'll think about it during this weekend :woot:

BH/HHH
06-08-2012, 02:57 PM
Just Hugh and Ellen for me, I don't think you can have Kelsey Grammar Beast and Nicolas Hoult Beast not only do they look different they're accents are way too different. Just have Wolverine, Kitty and maybe Bishop (and even some more mutants if they want) as the future team if they are going with the DOFP storyline.

def28
06-08-2012, 04:55 PM
All depends on how they go about this, I would like to see Wolverine, Kitty,Nightcrawler,Jean and Cyc back in an X Film. But for DOFP Id be cool with just Kitty and Wolverine cause most those other original characters should be dead right? THe films dont go by comics so who knows how the **** they will pull this off. Def dont wanna see Paquin as Rogue again. If they recast and have a completely different take I wouldnt mind seeing Rogue.

Rather they make room for characters that need time travel or alt univerese to be explained liek like Rachel Summers, Bishop or Cable. Might be the only time they have a chance to show up in an X film. Psylockes one of my fav so I hope one of these X Films features her. But with reason, not just because she hasnt been used and shes a fan fav.

henzINNIT
06-08-2012, 06:28 PM
All depends on how they go about this, I would like to see Wolverine, Kitty,Nightcrawler,Jean and Cyc back in an X Film. But for DOFP Id be cool with just Kitty and Wolverine cause most those other original characters should be dead right? THe films dont go by comics so who knows how the **** they will pull this off. Def dont wanna see Paquin as Rogue again. If they recast and have a completely different take I wouldnt mind seeing Rogue.

Rather they make room for characters that need time travel or alt univerese to be explained liek like Rachel Summers, Bishop or Cable. Might be the only time they have a chance to show up in an X film. Psylockes one of my fav so I hope one of these X Films features her. But with reason, not just because she hasnt been used and shes a fan fav.

Psylocke was in TLS, but I'm not surprised you missed her.

def28
06-08-2012, 07:10 PM
Psylocke was in TLS, but I'm not surprised you missed her.

Haha Yeah I know, that was some bs and pissed me off probably alot more then it should have. I think it was the first thing I complained about after I saw it even with the other crap in that film. I dont consider Psylocke or Kid Omega in Last Stand.

Hawkingbird
06-09-2012, 04:34 AM
Oh I just wish they rebooted it at First Class, keeping Hugh Jackman.

Angamb
06-09-2012, 05:08 AM
Hugh being on another x-men movie would mean a big role for Wolverine.

And right now, the characters of First Class need more development than him

lancimouspitt
06-09-2012, 01:35 PM
I'd like to see Cyke come back.
Though it just sounds like a big excuse to erase X3 maybe Jean didn't kill him?
Sent him through a hole (lol) or something and he ended up back in time.
Anyway i'm real interested to see what they do for FC2.

X-Maniac
06-11-2012, 05:11 AM
I'm wondering how they will deal with Wolverine.

We already met a 1960s Wolverine in First Class. At that point, wouldn't this be when he had bone claws, before he underwent the adamantium procedure?

According to XMO: Wolverine, he fought in Vietnam (with Sabretooth), they were recruited by Stryker (whose father we saw in First Class) and joined Team X. He left and seven years later, when Kayla was killed, had the adamantium put in.

Any thoughts? Will we see an older Wolverine from the future meet the 1960s version? Does the 1960s version have adamantium at that point?

lancimouspitt
06-11-2012, 06:45 AM
XM, It's hard telling really,but the only thing I'll bet on is that anything from X Men Origins Wolverine will be dropped from the continuity of FC2.

henzINNIT
06-11-2012, 07:33 AM
I'm wondering how they will deal with Wolverine.

We already met a 1960s Wolverine in First Class. At that point, wouldn't this be when he had bone claws, before he underwent the adamantium procedure?

According to XMO: Wolverine, he fought in Vietnam (with Sabretooth), they were recruited by Stryker (whose father we saw in First Class) and joined Team X. He left and seven years later, when Kayla was killed, had the adamantium put in.

Any thoughts? Will we see an older Wolverine from the future meet the 1960s version? Does the 1960s version have adamantium at that point?

I'm guessing 60's Wolverine would be nowhere near the action. That could get convoluted as hell. It's funny to think of the fits of rage fans would have if the next film is led not by Wolverine, but by two of him haha

Spider-Fan83
06-11-2012, 08:22 AM
I could see future Wolverine, causing some problems for the past him, maybe getting his face in the news or wanted by police (an since he doesn't really age, past wolverine would get mistaken for him)

maybe escaping those problems is why he changes his name and join up to ship off to Vietnam

According to XMO: Wolverine, he fought in Vietnam (with Sabretooth), they were recruited by Stryker (whose father we saw in First Class) and joined Team X. He left and seven years later, when Kayla was killed, had the adamantium put in

tho, we heard Charles say to agent Stryker (implying that he was William's father) that he was thinking of his son (William)... most people assume that it meant his son was still just a kid, but, he could've just as easily have been thinking of a 18-19 y.o William, having just join the army soon to be shipped off to Vietnam.... xo:w mainly took place nearly 10 years later towards the end of the war (during his time William, could of climbed the ranks to becoming a General) despite being played by a nearly 50, Danny Huston, could've been late 20s early 30s when we first see him as General Stryker recruiting Wolverine and Sabertooth, then say they were on the X team for a few years, before Logan quite the team... then it was another 7-8 years, before Stryker comes back to recruit him for the weapon X project... so, he would've been like in his later 30's early 40's by the end of XO:W... then X2 was set 15-20 years later when we saw (a nearly 60) Brian Cox playing him (making him around the right age)

AvengeME
06-12-2012, 07:41 AM
Wouldn't put to much stock in minor sticking points. As long as things fall in the ball park with some continuity errors here and there. Vaughn should not be restricted to trivial details. Go with what worked in previous movies and there ya go. We went through this crap with Star Wars and Revenge of the Sith. Not every Lego will fall in place.

Characters, Wolverine is a must... for FC 3. The third part. Maybe a cameo or a cliff hanger although that would be kinda cheesy. It would be Jackman's final role in the franchise. We don't need a third solo movie and The Wolverine will prove that.

Kitty Pride for sure because the character is overpowered as hell and can survive a time travel trip. Rogue would be pushing it. Need some new female characters. I would also send back Iceman/Angel. Keep Collosus in the future sequence. Kill either Iceman/Angel off and send the other back with Kitty.

FC3/X-4 would be a feature a young Jean/Scott/Storm/Beast. The classic lineup from the 90's. The future would feature Wolverine and maybe an older Storm. Villains would be the Sentinels, Graydon Creed/Bolivar Trask. Something huge and epic.

Supermanreturns
06-12-2012, 10:24 AM
Cyclops. End of story.

marcvader
06-12-2012, 10:31 AM
It'd be cool, as someone stated, if Phoenix unknowingly sent Cyke back in time somehow, perhaps to the 70's when this movie takes place and he's been amnesic or something.

lancimouspitt
06-14-2012, 01:00 PM
It'd be cool, as someone stated, if Phoenix unknowingly sent Cyke back in time somehow, perhaps to the 70's when this movie takes place and he's been amnesic or something.


What i'm thinking would work and keep in mind I know this isn't the greatest idea but with the film continuity I think it would be alright, is that for A Days Of Future Past movie they'll probably have a combination of different time travel archs for the film if they go that route. Perhaps instead of introducing new characters such as Bishop or cable (even Kitty) focus on Cyke going back since he got the shaft in the trilogy. Pretty much what i'm proposing is in a round about way combined Cable and cyke together.
Jean shows him what will become after her inevitable demise (mutant registration,maybe sentinels kind of throw out X3 ending a bit).

Maybe just maybe, though it would be a high point of contention among us hardcore elite, switch it up and make Havok Cyclope's father instead of Cyke being cables father. Have that same idea their just with two different characters...........I'm not saying that's the best way to do it but it's the best way that I can make sense for them to do it.

Angamb
06-14-2012, 02:41 PM
So this is the top 5 to date:

1. Hugh Jackman
2. James Marsden
3. Ellen Page
4. Halle Berry
5. Anna Paquin, Shawn Ashmore and Taylor Kitsch

quite curious how that possible love triangle between Gambit, Rogue and Iceman are on top 5... I like it :woot:

X-Maniac
06-14-2012, 03:10 PM
So this is the top 5 to date:

1. Hugh Jackman
2. James Marsden
3. Ellen Page
4. Halle Berry
5. Anna Paquin, Shawn Ashmore and Taylor Kitsch

quite curious how that possible love triangle between Gambit, Rogue and Iceman are on top 5... I like it :woot:

Enough with the love triangles please!

We've had Jean/Scott/Wolverine and also Iceman/Rogue/Kitty.

I think that they aren't necessary in multi-character movies. If there is just one hero (like Spider-Man or Superman), then adding in a love angle is okay for giving some more substance to the story.

But in team movies, it doesn't work as well.

Angamb
06-14-2012, 04:04 PM
Id like to see Rogue moving to Gambit in a possible sequel on the present.

The Guard
06-14-2012, 04:11 PM
Love triangles never really bothered me. Its one of those things that makes the X-Men the X-Men. Even the more modern comics are chock full of them.

lancimouspitt
06-14-2012, 10:51 PM
I'm guessing FC2 will in some way,no matter how brief address the Mystique/Azazel relationship.

Angamb
06-15-2012, 01:30 AM
too many subplots to develop on the sequel.... and adding days of future past wont help any of them.

:/

Bruce_Begins
06-15-2012, 02:18 AM
Off topic but, Where is the sequel casting thread ?

Angamb
06-20-2012, 05:48 PM
yeah, you can create it! :D

marvelrobbins
06-22-2012, 08:15 AM
I think Hugh jackman,Patrick Stewert,and Ian Mckellan are ones most likely to return
with Famke Janssen and Taylor Kitsch the ones least likely to return.

After Hugh,Patrick,and Ian I think Halle Berry Is most likely to return while after Famke and Taylor daniel Cudmore Is one least likely to return.

Angamb
06-22-2012, 08:35 AM
Ian and Patrick would be nice, definetly...

but what I would like the most is to see the actual x-men from original trilogy, not just Charles and Eric.

So if they do this saga, I hope they use more than 2 x-men.

Angamb
06-22-2012, 08:43 AM
Taylor Kitsch would be great in a sequel set in the present with Rogue, Storm, and co.

As much as Id like to see Gambit again, I dont think this is the right time.

marvelrobbins
06-22-2012, 09:00 AM
I think It will be be Xavier,Magneto,Wolverine and 2 or 3 other X-Men In future scenes.

Storm Is most likely after them to be used.Besides that you have Cyclops,Iceman,Rogue,
and Kitty as strong possabiltys.

Inless you throw out wolverine Taylor Kitsch wouldn't work as Gambit In present.

Superhero 101
06-22-2012, 08:25 PM
if they go into the future i'd want to see Wolverine Storm Kitty and Colossus

psylockolussus
07-03-2012, 08:16 AM
I don't want to see Taylor Kitsch for the first class sequel but I want to see him in X4 with the original cast.

Angamb
07-04-2012, 09:07 AM
Id like that too, definetly, with Rogue, Storm and the rest of the cast.

but at the same time, I wouldnt mind to see him with the First Class cast in a future sequel, set in late 70's or 80's, with a not so young Scott, Jean and Storm, it would be really great too

so as long as they use him again in the future, fine!

X-Maniac
07-04-2012, 09:20 AM
I don't want to see Taylor Kitsch for the first class sequel but I want to see him in X4 with the original cast.

I wonder how they are going to mix and match the characters. McKellen is getting on a bit to keep playing Magneto, for instance, so will they bring some of the First Class characters into the future, or leave some of the future characters in the past?

Hellion
07-19-2012, 01:28 AM
I was kinda thinking, does the sequel have to be set during the time the events are happening...maybe we could have a modern day Charles and Magneto recounting early tale(s) of the X-Men vs Brotherhood or whatever over a game of chess...not as exciting as the different Days of Future Past ideas, but its a way to include actors from the previous films...


...if any previous actors from the X-Men OT were in FC2 I'd peg the big three...Ian, Patrick, and/or Hugh...

Darthkush
08-01-2012, 09:38 PM
I wonder how they are going to mix and match the characters. McKellen is getting on a bit to keep playing Magneto, for instance, so will they bring some of the First Class characters into the future, or leave some of the future characters in the past?

I'm almost willing to bet money they will. The biggest contender to me to go to the future? Fassbender's Magneto. As many have said, Mckellan is getting older and although he's amazing, he's already said recently before the Hobbit started filming that he was getting up there and he may not be doing these types of films as much anymore. I think it's a way to bring the more "evil warlord" type more youthful Magneto who launched missles and took over nations and such into the films.

Darthkush
08-01-2012, 09:39 PM
I also think Gambit is possible to come to the future if they make any attempt to fix or retcon X-men Origins: Wolverine.

danoyse
08-01-2012, 09:45 PM
Everyone but Kitsch lol.

Poor Taylor Kitsch... :oldrazz:

JP
08-01-2012, 09:47 PM
More like Taylor Cursed.

BMM
08-01-2012, 10:45 PM
I think it's best to continue to ignore X-Men Origins: Wolverine as much as possible, especially after the use of Emma Frost in First Class. No need to make things any more confusing.

marvelrobbins
08-01-2012, 10:53 PM
Well when viewing the X-Men films I go first Class,X-Men,and then X2.I find they flow very well together.It's a safe bet X-Men and X2 are connected to first Class.It's only when we start talking about the Last Stand and Wolverine that debate starts.

BMM
08-01-2012, 10:56 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing actors from X-Men and X2 return but, with the possible exception of Ellen Page, would like to keep actors from The Last Stand and X-Men Origins out of Days of Future Past.

JP
08-01-2012, 10:59 PM
I would never say no to Kelsey Grammer.

BMM
08-01-2012, 11:15 PM
The only thing I think might be questionable regarding Grammer's inclusion is the visual difference between the two Beasts. Plus, they may want to save money and simply age Hoult via make-up, since he's already under cover, rather than pay Grammer. Though, for fans of Grammer's Beast, it would be a nice tie-in.

marvelrobbins
08-01-2012, 11:29 PM
I would never say no to Kelsey Grammer.

I agree.Him and Ellen Page were only good addations to the Last Stand.Of course some others may have worked better with Vaughn Directing.And Grammer was actully hired by Vaughn.

However since Vaughn likes the more cat like Beast doudtful they would have him In future sequenze. In part due to avoid talk of beast different appearance.If Beast Is In future more likely they would age up Nicholas Holt In catlike Beast makeup.

Duran Man
08-02-2012, 12:54 AM
I'd like to see Wolverine, Storm, and Beast return. With Beast there's an opportunity to explain that he will undergo a subsequent mutation or mutations that make him appear the way he does in X3.

psylockolussus
08-02-2012, 02:08 AM
I agree.Him and Ellen Page were only good addations to the Last Stand.Of course some others may have worked better with Vaughn Directing.And Grammer was actully hired by Vaughn.

Yeah Beast was the best addition to X3 and he didn't really have flaws compare to the other characters who were in X3. I didn't like Ellen Page as Shadowcat, I thought she was annoying in the movie.

Banshee
08-02-2012, 02:44 AM
If they do use characters from the previous franchise, why does it have to involve time travel? In fact, I can tell you right now it probably wont. Expect some mystery-adventure style plot following clues from destiny's diaries, while scenes of the future and the past are intercut. While the x-men in the past are figuring stuff out, the consequences lead to events unfolding in the future. It keeps the spirit of the comic, while also doing away with the time travel aspect, which wont carry over well to film if you ask me. Also, see Senator Kelly replaced with the Kennedy assassination, ala the Cuban Missile Crisis.

At least that's what I think.

747
08-02-2012, 05:09 AM
If they do use characters from the previous franchise, why does it have to involve time travel? In fact, I can tell you right now it probably wont. Expect some mystery-adventure style plot following clues from destiny's diaries, while scenes of the future and the past are intercut. While the x-men in the past are figuring stuff out, the consequences lead to events unfolding in the future. It keeps the spirit of the comic, while also doing away with the time travel aspect, which wont carry over well to film if you ask me. Also, see Senator Kelly replaced with the Kennedy assassination, ala the Cuban Missile Crisis.

At least that's what I think.

That's actually a damn cool idea!

SingItWithMeNow
08-02-2012, 07:16 AM
Hopefully they bring back ellen page as kitty. Wasnt she central to this story? And shes much more famous now

X-Maniac
08-02-2012, 07:43 AM
If they do use characters from the previous franchise, why does it have to involve time travel? In fact, I can tell you right now it probably wont. Expect some mystery-adventure style plot following clues from destiny's diaries, while scenes of the future and the past are intercut. While the x-men in the past are figuring stuff out, the consequences lead to events unfolding in the future. It keeps the spirit of the comic, while also doing away with the time travel aspect, which wont carry over well to film if you ask me. Also, see Senator Kelly replaced with the Kennedy assassination, ala the Cuban Missile Crisis.

At least that's what I think.

It's a possibility that has crossed my mind too. Having the future be the precognitive visions of someone (Destiny, Bishop) is one way round it, except how do they know those predictions are real and not just some lunatic's insane ramblings?

marcvader
08-02-2012, 07:49 AM
If they do tackle time travel in this then please please please give us Scott Summers back.

TheWatcher
08-02-2012, 08:13 AM
^THIS.

James Marsden,Hugh Jackman, and Ellen Page are a must.

JP
08-02-2012, 08:26 AM
If they do use characters from the previous franchise, why does it have to involve time travel? In fact, I can tell you right now it probably wont. Expect some mystery-adventure style plot following clues from destiny's diaries, while scenes of the future and the past are intercut. While the x-men in the past are figuring stuff out, the consequences lead to events unfolding in the future. It keeps the spirit of the comic, while also doing away with the time travel aspect, which wont carry over well to film if you ask me. Also, see Senator Kelly replaced with the Kennedy assassination, ala the Cuban Missile Crisis.

At least that's what I think.
Not only would I much prefer this, but time travel isn't even featured (heavily) in the original comic. It wasn't until the 90's cartoon where they introduced a mutant traveling back in time.

As for Ellen, I would love her return, but I don't think it's necessary or even services this story. Plus Ellen hated her experience on X3, so unless she's woo'd by Vaughn and Singer (and a great script) I don't see her wanting to come back.

SuperT
08-02-2012, 08:52 AM
If they do use characters from the previous franchise, why does it have to involve time travel? In fact, I can tell you right now it probably wont. Expect some mystery-adventure style plot following clues from destiny's diaries, while scenes of the future and the past are intercut. While the x-men in the past are figuring stuff out, the consequences lead to events unfolding in the future. It keeps the spirit of the comic, while also doing away with the time travel aspect, which wont carry over well to film if you ask me. Also, see Senator Kelly replaced with the Kennedy assassination, ala the Cuban Missile Crisis.

At least that's what I think.

I completely agree and have been thinking this would be the format as well, bypassing time travel for something a little easier to swallow.

I mentioned this in another thread, but they could easily use it as a way to introduce young Jean Grey to the movie. Have her be the conduit to which the vision comes through, maybe as an side effect of her powers awakening/activating.

Time travel just opens up too many unnecessary doors and questions that may be too big to answer in just one simple movie.

aeioulul
08-02-2012, 08:57 AM
Jackman (obviously) and Famke Janssen.

marvelrobbins
08-02-2012, 09:06 AM
Time Travel of some kind Is a must.I really don't see them cutting back and forth between Time Peroids.If they don't have an opeing prologue sequenze set In future they will have an extended flashback/Flashforward sequenze.

I always thought back after Lauren SHueller Donner mentioned X4/X5 that If they did Days of future Past there was more chance of having Rogue fill Kitty's role In storyline.
In a lot of ways Rogue In earlier films filled the void of Kitty.Plus Anna Paqun Is far more willing to return to series than Ellen Page.Her baby Is due In November and then It woud be question could they make her schedule with True Blood work.

The Guard
08-02-2012, 09:38 AM
I could see Jubilee taking on Kitty's role as well.

Figs
08-02-2012, 10:35 AM
I hope none of the old cast members come back. Berry sucked, we've gotten more than enough of Jackman as Wolverine and I don't want to see McKellen as Magneto now that Fassbender blew him out of the water. They need to focus on the current First Class characters.

I don't get this ridiculous wanting of an X-men 4.

marvelrobbins
08-02-2012, 10:39 AM
Your going to be disappointed.There will almost certinly be original film actors.Both
Simon Kinberg and Bryan Singer has hinted at It.

danoyse
08-02-2012, 11:30 AM
I hope none of the old cast members come back. Berry sucked, we've gotten more than enough of Jackman as Wolverine and I don't want to see McKellen as Magneto now that Fassbender blew him out of the water. They need to focus on the current First Class characters.

I don't get this ridiculous wanting of an X-men 4.

If he shows up like this (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/hugh-jackman-baring-teeth-and-muscles-on-the-set-of-the-new-wolverine-film/story-e6frf96f-1226441860259), I'm all for it. :oldrazz:

Figs
08-02-2012, 11:44 AM
If he shows up like this (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/hugh-jackman-baring-teeth-and-muscles-on-the-set-of-the-new-wolverine-film/story-e6frf96f-1226441860259), I'm all for it. :oldrazz:

I like jackman as an actor and as wolverine but I think they should focus on the new cast.

Nathan
08-02-2012, 11:46 AM
I want Cudmore back as Colossus. And give him something to do damn it! :argh:

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marcvader
08-02-2012, 12:40 PM
I dream of the day we get an X-Men team with:
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Wolverine
Storm
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Shadowcat

This is the team I started reading X-Men with.

JP
08-02-2012, 12:44 PM
I hope none of the old cast members come back. Berry sucked, we've gotten more than enough of Jackman as Wolverine and I don't want to see McKellen as Magneto now that Fassbender blew him out of the water. They need to focus on the current First Class characters.

I don't get this ridiculous wanting of an X-men 4.
Hardly.


But how do you do DoFP without characters from... um.. the future? :dry:

Figs
08-02-2012, 12:53 PM
Hardly.

I like McKellen's Magneto but it was a bit hammy at times. I think Fassbender did a fantastic job.

But how do you do DoFP without characters from... um.. the future? :dry:

Well lets see how much they delve into the future in this next movie. They might not even go that far, they could just use the sentinels for all we know. I just want to see some of the First Class cast get more screentime and development.

marvelrobbins
08-02-2012, 12:56 PM
They are going to use original film actors.Plus Imagen the shock of seeing them killed by Sentinles onscreen.Imagne after being free of collor Magneto sacirfices himself using powers against army of sentinles while others ecape.And assuming Wolverine Isn't the time traveler seeing him In action against Sentinles ending with him being vaporized.

On another board a poster suggested wolverine,Kitty,and CGI Iceman In Iceform and CGI Collossus In full metal form(Like In X2 and not cheap one from Last Stand) as returing characters.And suggested Kitty going back In time with Bishop.Of course who knows If they could get Ellen Page Back.And the have to have Patrick Stewart and Ian
Mckellan In film.They need to have a couple of characters In both time frames.

JP
08-02-2012, 01:05 PM
Well lets see how much they delve into the future in this next movie. They might not even go that far, they could just use the sentinels for all we know. I just want to see some of the First Class cast get more screentime and development.
Eh, he was only hammy at times in X3 "WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?". But since I choose not to acknowledge that film, his performance remains legendary.

Whiskey Tango
08-02-2012, 01:10 PM
I'd love for Marsden to return, and for Cyke to get some good solid screentime. More than anyone else he's who I'd like back.

Cherry
08-02-2012, 01:30 PM
I'd love for Marsden to return, and for Cyke to get some good solid screentime. More than anyone else he's who I'd like back.

Seconded. In my ultimate fantasy, somehow Jean Grey's good side was able to send Scott back in time during his mysterious "death scene" in X3. Maybe the power of the Phoenix allowed her to see a bleak future and she wanted to save him from that before the darkness completely overtook her.

JP
08-02-2012, 01:34 PM
Again, I don't think of that matters of is necessary. An ALTERNATE future was created, meaning anything that happened in X1-X3 does not matter.

marvelrobbins
08-02-2012, 01:49 PM
What happened In the Last Stand Is moot.Neith Matthew Vaughn nor Bryan Singer with First Class showed much Intrest to lineup anything with that film.

Days of future Past Involves a possable future where they try to prevent It from coming to be.It's unknown what exactly would be connection between future and other X-Men
films.But,I gurantee you they aren't going to be spending any time trying to recon what happened In Last Stand.If they want to use Cyclops in future scenes they will just him.

Whiskey Tango
08-02-2012, 01:54 PM
They really do have carte blanche to change or ignore whatever they like. I'm pretty excited about the possibilities actually, I just wish I were in charge.

HBKfan28
08-02-2012, 02:08 PM
I think we will see Wolverine and Storm, possible Iceman. Ashmore said he is contracted to a 4th film. Halle Berry has said she would do another one. That doesn't mean it will be this one, but I think they would include those characters.

I think Ellen Page would do it, they shouldn't re-cast if they don't have to.

TheWatcher
08-02-2012, 02:17 PM
Cyclops is a must.

Angamb
08-02-2012, 02:42 PM
Id like to see James Marsden too. To see a badass Cyclops like never before.

At the same time, I wouldnt mind to wait some years for the introduction of young Scott on this new series. It will be a great day, definetly, specially seeing him with his brother and Beast too, as a nod to the original five. The same with Jean. But young Cyclops is like a must, hopefully on the third part.

One thing is for sure, I dont want Wolverine in another x-men movie, I really hate the idea that he has appeared in ALL the movies of this franchise, ALL. even in the movie that was supposed to be about the origin of Xavier, Eric and the first x-men. But Fox managed to included Hugh :cmad: even if almost everyone loved the cameo.

That's why I dont like DOFP right now, because I was really hyped to see a First class sequel with no Wolverine for the very first time.

at least I hope Matthew doesnt use him for more than 5-10 minutes. And if he uses him for more time, I really hope the other x-men from the future have the same screentime.

AvengeME
08-02-2012, 03:23 PM
Bring back Jackman and Halle if they want that star power again. They will overshadow everyone again, but it is going to bring in the masses with those two stars coming back. You don't have to use them in the same scenes. Storm stays in the future with Collosus/Angel, Jackman and Page go back.

It's pretty unlikely they are bringing everybody from the OT back. But Wolverine is a must for this type of story. I don't want Wolverine 3, and Jackman's last movie needs to be big.

I would go 1960's. JFK assasination. Soviet Weapons X equivalent with Omega Red. And a top secret collaboration between the Soviets and Americans on a joint Sentinel project. Jackman and Page go back with maybe a time traveling mutant like Cable.

Future, go with an older Bolivar Trask or Graydon Creed as a top power broker who funds the primary Sentinel project. Mutant rebellion would be led by Storm and an older Gambit. Most other X-Men are dead.

Movie ends with the X-Men stopping the Sentinel project in the future. Leave off similar to X-3, with mutants and humans working toward a peaceful world. Magneto sees the error of his ways and tries to set aside his differences with humanity as we progress to the present day. Do it all over two films and not one.

Next up, Age of Apocalypse trilogy.

Angamb
08-02-2012, 03:47 PM
good ideas, avengeME.

They really have plenty of elements to use on this new series, both from the comics and our history, the 60's and all of that.

They'll deliver, that's for sure

NinjaCarm
08-02-2012, 05:25 PM
Cyclops, Wolverine, and Jubilee. Yes Jubilee, sub her for Pryde which I never really got into. Let Jubilee have her day already.

And introduce Bishop.

Angamb
08-02-2012, 05:45 PM
When you have Kitty already on X3 and played by a good actress like Ellen Page....

I really doubt Fox would go with Jubilee instead of her

Wolverine, Kitty, Storm and Collosus would be a great representation of the original trilogy, specially after the event of X3.

NinjaCarm
08-02-2012, 05:52 PM
In all honesty, I don't want anyone back lol

def28
08-02-2012, 06:09 PM
I wonder how many X characters they will have slain or if they will even go that route and have them just being held in camps.

Angamb
08-02-2012, 06:49 PM
this sequel can easily beat X3 with the number of main characters, if they decide to use more than 3 big name actors from OT.

we can only speculate until casting announcements, so lets just hope for the best

def28
08-02-2012, 07:15 PM
I dont see how Vaughns "only one new character" is gonna work. This films gonna have quite a few new characters and mutants running around. Maybe not as main characters, but alot of mutants are gonna be needed. I would suspect they want to show other mutants in camps/being hunted besides the X Men.

I hope Rogue either gets an update or stays away from this flick. Would like to actually see her kick some ass one day, same with Iceman. Didnt like their previous film versions too much.

Since Beast is in the flick regardless. Id be cool with him being one of the dead X Men in the future.

Mrs Vimes
08-03-2012, 04:28 AM
I think that Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart are the only actors from the original trilogy I'd like to see again in some kind of appearance. Definitely not Halle Berry, who was totally cringeworthy in X1 and just bland in X2. And not James Marsden either - I know that Cyclops suffered from the lack of real interest in his character, but I'll always have beef with his lame acting at the end of X2 when Jean sacrifices herself, which tarnishes an otherwise great, emotional scene.

X-Maniac
08-03-2012, 05:11 AM
I dont see how Vaughns "only one new character" is gonna work. This films gonna have quite a few new characters and mutants running around. Maybe not as main characters, but alot of mutants are gonna be needed. I would suspect they want to show other mutants in camps/being hunted besides the X Men.

I hope Rogue either gets an update or stays away from this flick. Would like to actually see her kick some ass one day, same with Iceman. Didnt like their previous film versions too much.

Since Beast is in the flick regardless. Id be cool with him being one of the dead X Men in the future.

Cramming loads of characters into this production could create a hot mess. We know from the experience of X3, XMO: Wolverine (and even First Class) that there are characters who could/should have been cut.

I enjoy seeing cameos and acknowledgements of the comics' extensive mythos, but the wider fanbase seems to get frustrated by it.

So they have to tread carefully here. Especially if this is just one two-hour movie, not a two-parter.

If they are going to add in well-known characters, those characters need at least one good 'moment' and ideally some decent screentime and development. A background glimpse will just cause frustration.

X-Maniac
08-03-2012, 05:14 AM
I think that Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart are the only actors from the original trilogy I'd like to see again in some kind of appearance. Definitely not Halle Berry, who was totally cringeworthy in X1 and just bland in X2. And not James Marsden either - I know that Cyclops suffered from the lack of real interest in his character, but I'll always have beef with his lame acting at the end of X2 when Jean sacrifices herself, which tarnishes an otherwise great, emotional scene.

They may bring Halle back for 'star power' and she may do better under another director and writer. We haven't yet had a proper Storm.

Marsden's grief scene at the end of X2 was a bit hammy, yes. And so was Wolverine's grief scene over Xavier's death in X3, with him sobbing next to the empty wheelchair being totally out of character.

Angamb
08-03-2012, 05:30 AM
would you all like them to try a more faithful adaptation of the storyline?

I mean in terms of the characters of the future: Wolverine, Kitty, Storm, Magneto, Collosus...

I think it would be cool if Fox for once try to stay as faithful as possible, tho that would mean no other x-men from original trilogy, like Rogue, Beast, Iceman, Kurt, Angel or Gambit.

LibidoLoca
08-03-2012, 05:44 AM
I can see them using Wolverine, Storm, possibly Kitty, but we may end up with Rogue instead.

def28
08-03-2012, 06:15 AM
Cramming loads of characters into this production could create a hot mess. We know from the experience of X3, XMO: Wolverine (and even First Class) that there are characters who could/should have been cut.

I enjoy seeing cameos and acknowledgements of the comics' extensive mythos, but the wider fanbase seems to get frustrated by it.

So they have to tread carefully here. Especially if this is just one two-hour movie, not a two-parter.

If they are going to add in well-known characters, those characters need at least one good 'moment' and ideally some decent screentime and development. A background glimpse will just cause frustration.

For the most part FC did an incredible job at balancing quite a few characters. Some of the X Men got underdeveloped but it was still better balanced then the other films imo. Everythings how its written, XMOW's plot was litteraly Wolverine meeting a new mutant then moving to the next. Im not really saying new characters in DOFP will be main characters but since the story line deals with the incarceration of Mutants, I doubt the world would go to such an extant with only 10 known mutants around. I expect to see quite a few in camps, or being killed in combat. That kinda needs to happen to serve the story. Since we already have a majority of X1,2 and 3 characters set up their introductions will not come as shock. Mutant camps are a huge part of the plot so I think we will get at least 2 new characters focused on a bit, while others are there to show the brutality and scope of what has happened.

To say there will only be one new character I find a bit hard to believe. Maybe one main new character, but because of the scope of the story and SInger saying they are going to expand the X Men universe, Im guessing we will see a few new faces and probably quite a few mutants as background or minor roles. I dont think this will be a one shot stand alone by how Singer was describing it.

Angamb
08-03-2012, 06:39 AM
agree with your points. We definetly need to see HOW is that world of the future, so no way they will only show 3 or 4 x-men, as the only mutants on that future.

Id like to see a well known mutant from the comics with the choosen x-men from OT. Id be fine with either Bishop or Cable. Domino would be cool too, or someone known like her (from tv shows or so)

Donut
08-03-2012, 06:45 AM
I would think that if movie Wolverine met a Time Traveler. He would want to go back & save Scott & Jean first ? They are going to change things anyway. Might as well change that. It would be cool seeing those three team up & go back in time. It would also stop X3 from ever happening. By saving those two

def28
08-03-2012, 06:59 AM
agree with your points. We definetly need to see HOW is that world of the future, so no way they will only show 3 or 4 x-men, as the only mutants on that future.

Id like to see a well known mutant from the comics with the choosen x-men from OT. Id be fine with either Bishop or Cable. Domino would be cool too, or someone known like her (from tv shows or so)

Yeah It would be cool to see those characters, Domino would be awesome. Could be a good time to show Wanda or Lorna as Magnetos Daughters as well. Should be pretty easy to explain the connection now since so much time would have passed.

marvelrobbins
08-03-2012, 07:21 AM
The most obvious choices to return are Patrick Stewert,Ian Mckellan,and Hugh Jackman .After them I think Halle Berry Is more likely to return.It's star power.That Is part of reason she was cast as Storm In first place.Rogue may replace Kitty In Story.If they can make the film work with true blood It Is more likely they could get Anna Paquin back
than Ellen Page.And they would probally bring In Iceman or Colossus to round off the future characters.

Angamb
08-03-2012, 08:08 AM
since Ellen signed for various sequels, I dont see the problem for Fox to get her back.

The same with any actor from original trilogy.

I dont understand why many sites dont see Ellen returning. Contracts are contracts. Thats how the industry works.

747
08-03-2012, 08:20 AM
Bring back Ellen Page as Kitty! I thought she did great with what little she was given and I want to see more of her. :)

Mrs Vimes
08-03-2012, 08:37 AM
Halle Berry's career was hot at the time of the original trilogy, but she really hasn't done much lately at all. It's not as if, once you get star power, it never goes away. Especially for aging women in Hollywood.

marvelrobbins
08-03-2012, 08:49 AM
since Ellen signed for various sequels, I dont see the problem for Fox to get her back.

The same with any actor from original trilogy.

I dont understand why many sites dont see Ellen returning. Contracts are contracts. Thats how the industry works.

Some are wondering If her sequel contact Is still valid after 6 years.Shawn Ashmore says his 3 film deal he signed when they keep him for X2 Is still valid for another film.Plus there had been reports Ellen didn't have good exceperence filming the Last Stand and kinda regretted agreeing to do film. The regret thing could just be gossip.I agree there IS chance she may have to choice to return If Fox wants her back and Vaughn and Singer have plans for Kitty.Both haven't worked with her before so that could make a difference.Apart from Kelsey Grammer she was the new addattion to Last Stand that I liked.Since when I first started reading X-Men comics were when It was shadowcat with WOlverine,Rogue,Nightcrawler,Colossus,Phoenix II,and powerless Storm I liked having more for Kitty and Ellen did decent job of bringing Shadowcat to screen(although she never actully had the codename)

Angamb
08-03-2012, 08:50 AM
Halle Berry's career was hot at the time of the original trilogy, but she really hasn't done much lately at all. It's not as if, once you get star power, it never goes away. Especially for aging women in Hollywood.

But to get her back on the sequel would create some hype, definetly, specially for the general audience who liked Storm, Wolverine and the well known x-men.

I guess Fox want both Hugh and Halle, but maybe its Matthew and Bryan the ones who have to decide if they want to include her or not.

Whiskey Tango
08-03-2012, 08:55 AM
Halle Berry's career was hot at the time of the original trilogy, but she really hasn't done much lately at all. It's not as if, once you get star power, it never goes away. Especially for aging women in Hollywood.

I watched some terrible shark movie with her the other day. It really felt like a huge step backwards.

marvelrobbins
08-03-2012, 09:12 AM
Considering halle publicly asked fans to urge Fox to do X4 I seriously doudt she would say no.Let's be honest her career Is in crapper.she makes more news for her personal life and custody Issues with her daughter than her work anymore.

During time Matthew Vaughn was going to direct The Last stand and worked on script reports say he was big advocate of giving Storm more to do and script during his time even had Wolverine and Storm love scene.

The Infernal
08-03-2012, 09:28 AM
I personally want to see some of the original X-men movie start to return since the Days of Future Past story bridges between timelines. Though most of all I want to see Cyclops, Wolverin, Jean Grey and Gambit in the film.

Cyclops. I don't care how (I would love Marsden back), he got screwed in X3 and they introduced Havok in First Class so I think he should come back most of all. Plus the film makers teased perhaps having Cyclops in the films again.

Wolverine. Even though the first three X-men films were arguably Wolverine and the X-men, I still want to see Hugh back in an X-men group film. Not to mention that Days of Future Past features Wolverine in it.

Jean Grey. This one is more or less because I don't think you can have Cyclops back without having Jean back. I'll admit that I'm not sure how either would work, but when you've got a time travel story then it already makes the job easier. I'm sure it can be worked out. Plus I wasn't happy with resurrecting her only to die again (not to mention her killing Cyclops and Wolverine's role in being the one to take her on felt like it should have been Cyclops' role)

Gambit. Ok, this one is just because I've loved this guy since I was a kid (though he did feature in the cartoon version of Days of Future Past) and I thought Kitsch at least made a great Gambit even if Origins wasn't any good itself.

Other than that I'd like to see Rogue, Iceman, Storm, Xavier and Magneto (Stewart and MacKellen's version) return, but Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean and Gambit are my main concerns.

Angamb
08-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Rogue and Gambit on the future would be f**** amazing, specially with Anna Paquin and Taylor Kitchs.

But Im afraid Matthew and Fox wont be as interested in these two characters, specially if they werent on the original storyarc.

Wolverine, Storm, Rogue and Gambit all together would be :wow: :wow: :wow:

but that's too good to end being the case

Nathan
08-03-2012, 11:02 AM
If Rogue is back, I hope she gets recast.

JP
08-03-2012, 11:15 AM
Why? Paquin has gotten so much hotter since True Blood, and in a future setting where they can basically do whatever, they can finally make her more comic accurate.

psyonic
08-03-2012, 11:17 AM
The original cast being back would make the movie for me.

marvelrobbins
08-03-2012, 11:23 AM
If Rogue Is In film Anna Paquin will be playing here.Anna Is a ocsar winning actress plus she has gotten raves for her work on True Blood.Not to mention her sex appeal has gone up since she did sex scenes on True Blood.And her public Bisexual confession helps fuels thoughts In some's minds.Sex appeal from actresses never hurt a film.

Whiskey Tango
08-03-2012, 01:00 PM
I'm cool with AP, I just want her to fly and throw cars and ****. maybe punch some duder thru a wall. I am not hard to please.

Primal Slayer
08-03-2012, 01:07 PM
since Ellen signed for various sequels, I dont see the problem for Fox to get her back.

The same with any actor from original trilogy.

I dont understand why many sites dont see Ellen returning. Contracts are contracts. Thats how the industry works.

Those contracts would be null and void now. They cant keep her waiting around for 6 years and then call her back into action. Dont work that way.

If Anna does return she would probably be wearing a wig since she cant dye her hair back and forth so drastically.

psyonic
08-03-2012, 01:19 PM
They should make the time traveler Rogue and put her in that greenish jumpsuit they wore in the future, and of course give it some yellow accents and she can wear the bomber jacket Logan wore in DOFP, and she'll have her comic outfit!

Figs
08-03-2012, 02:12 PM
If Rogue is back, I hope she gets recast.

Same here. She was terrible as Rogue, did not fit the character at all.

I also have to face palm towards the people actually wanting Berry back as Storm.

Nathan
08-03-2012, 02:16 PM
I actually wouldn't mind if most of the people got recast. I wouldn't mind seen Stewart and McKellen back. Marsden and Cudmore got the shaft and deserve another chance. Otherwise, I'm all for fresh blood.

Angamb
08-03-2012, 03:02 PM
one question that comes to my mind is:

when does this future takes place? and how old are the future x-men?

10 years later than in X3? less? around the same age?

I think none has commented it, but what would be really interesting is to really see older versions of the characters from X1-X3, like happens on the source material.

Future Kitty was really older than present Kitty, right? So that means a clearly look difference, with the pass of time

X3 was shooted in 2005, and the sequel will be shoot on 2013, so that means a 8 years difference in the actors look. Its a decent jump, but not so much at all.

Sometime ago I thought how interesting would be to see older versions of Kitty, Rogue and others characters played by the same actors, Ellen, Anna and the rest

they could bring a totally new side to their characters, more mature, smart... and more badass too.

marvelrobbins
08-03-2012, 03:17 PM
I think we are looking in future about a 10 year time frame since earlier films.

Primal Slayer
08-03-2012, 04:12 PM
Movie Rogue wasn't like comic rogue anyway. Different actress wouldn't have changed that. While Halle wasn't the greatest Storm, I still liked her since it wasn't her fault how the character was written or directed to act. I just wish they worked with her longer on the accent.

The Infernal
08-03-2012, 04:19 PM
I'm cool with AP, I just want her to fly and throw cars and ****. maybe punch some duder thru a wall. I am not hard to please.

Same here. I'd love Anna Paquin back and playing a more classic version of Rogue. I miss her with that power set. To me it was part of her character. Though on the upside of that at least the comics have finally moved on from the "I can't touch anyone" thing she had because even though that's a good angle it can get old after a while and that story was told for years.

Though I'm not so sure if we'd be likely to see Anna back. She wasn't such a big name back then (but still quite accomplished) and I'm not aware of her stating whether she'd love to come back, not to mention her possible obligations to the True Blood ongoing series.

Also, I can't help but think if she came back as a more sexy/mature Rogue that she and Kitsch version of Gambit would look really good together.

Nathan
08-03-2012, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't be upset if Rogue isn't like classic Rogue again. Thi is still my favorite version of her. I just want her to be a good combatant and use her powers tactically.

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1965/roguexmenevolution13665.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/roguexmenevolution13665.jpg/)

marvelrobbins
08-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Anna has mentioned since the Last Stand was released she would be willing to return.The bigger problem Is could her schedule with True Blood allow her to return.

The problem with Rogue has always been she gets powers from MS Marvel.Fox doesn't have rights to that character.If they just had her have those powers some would complain about that.Even Wolverine and the X-Men only had her with her absorbing power.

BMM
08-03-2012, 04:34 PM
Reading through these threads, I'm beginning to think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment. This is still a sequel to First Class. It's not X-Men 4.

Hellion
08-03-2012, 04:54 PM
Reading through these threads, I'm beginning to think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment. This is still a sequel to First Class. It's not X-Men 4.

The guessing and mystery and possibilities is all part of the fun though. :yay:

slim_summers
08-03-2012, 04:56 PM
Out of the characters who feature in this particular storyline in the comics, I'd like to see Ellen Page and Alan Cumming back. Storm, Wolverine, Colossus and Angel all feature too but I don't mind if they are played by a new talent this time around.

Surprised Rebecca Romijn isn't listed in options for poll when Mystique is main antagonist in the comic story?

I agree with BMM above though - I'm not going to be getting the comic story I want because ultimately this will be a First Class sequel, and the continuity is pretty much irrepairable to faithfully recreate any classic stories.

DigificWriter
08-03-2012, 04:57 PM
There are no separate timelines, merely three stories that are in continuity (First Class, X-Men, and X2: X-Men United) and one story that is not (Origins: Wolverine), with one completed story (The Last Stand) and one in-progress story (The Wolverine) still 'up-in-the-air'.

The Infernal
08-03-2012, 05:08 PM
Movie Rogue wasn't like comic rogue anyway. Different actress wouldn't have changed that. While Halle wasn't the greatest Storm, I still liked her since it wasn't her fault how the character was written or directed to act. I just wish they worked with her longer on the accent.

What do you mean "worked with her longer on the accent"? There was no real attempt at Storm's accent. Which sort of just adds to my annoyance that she's just another character that's more or less Americanised. I really wish they wouldn't keep change non-American X-men characters to American.

I wouldn't be upset if Rogue isn't like classic Rogue again. Thi is still my favorite version of her.

I feel that version of Rogue essentially spun out of Paquin's take on a younger, less mature/sexy Rogue. I'm in no rush to see that again, I want to see a more classic version of the character.

The problem with Rogue has always been she gets powers from MS Marvel.Fox doesn't have rights to that character.If they just had her have those powers some would complain about that.Even Wolverine and the X-Men only had her with her absorbing power.

That's not really a problem though. Every X-men film and a whole ton of other comic book films have seen drastic changes when coming to the big screen. The story doesn't require Ms. Marvel so you could just substitute someone else with super strength and flight. You don't even need to tell that part of the story, you could just pick up the story with an older Rogue and have her simply say she got her powers from another mutant in a fight that went horribly wrong and leave it at that if it's not important to the story being told in the movie.

magneto23
08-03-2012, 05:10 PM
Anna Paquinn won't be in this movie. She is pregnant with twins and is going to be dealing with that all the way up until season 6 of true blood starts filming. Even that might need to be worked around/delayed for her.

Nathan
08-03-2012, 05:25 PM
I feel that version of Rogue essentially spun out of Paquin's take on a younger, less mature/sexy Rogue. I'm in no rush to see that again, I want to see a more classic version of the character.


Quite possible. But at least Evolution Rogue rocked. Especially when she absorbed all those powers and used them at the same time. Her using multiple powers at the same time, would be more interesting than just having flight and super strength.

def28
08-03-2012, 05:37 PM
Id be cool with recasting Rogue if they had an important role for her. Not a fan of Paquins take either. She def needs to be able to kick more ass if shes back.

Whiskey Tango
08-03-2012, 05:46 PM
Reading through these threads, I'm beginning to think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment. This is still a sequel to First Class. It's not X-Men 4.

It's still pretty early, at least until concrete info starts coming in people always spitball about what they'd most like to see whether it's realistic or not.

Moreso since time travel makes it so easy to retcon things, it's got everyone's imaginations fire up. :yay:

Mrs Vimes
08-03-2012, 06:58 PM
one question that comes to my mind is:

when does this future takes place? and how old are the future x-men?

It could really be anything I guess - it could take place after X3 or years before the original trilogy's time.

Mulholland '49
08-03-2012, 08:34 PM
Reading through these threads, I'm beginning to think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment. This is still a sequel to First Class. It's not X-Men 4.

This. I'm sure the'yre taking a lot of "elements" from the comic, but will probably end up being as close to the comic as First Class was to it's comic of the same name.

JP
08-03-2012, 08:41 PM
First Class was named after a comic (a comic that in all honestly is a cheesy Saturday morning cartoon version of the X-Men). DoFP is named after an actual storyline.

craigdbfan
08-03-2012, 09:04 PM
Whatever the outcome may be I'm getting good vibes from this production already. I felt the exact same way for First Class even when most had relegated that it was going to be awful.

The fact that Vaughn has now had more time to conceptualize and think of some seemingly awesome and intricate plot line involving time travel, I believe this has the chance to be the best X-Men film without question.

With the time Vaughn/Singer had for First Class it's a miracle they were able to create something so good. Vaughn gets what makes the X-Men tick and I truly do believe Fox is letting them create something special. Tommy Rothman has loosened up and has finally realized that letting these guys who know these characters in and out go to work without interruption is the best way to go.

Mulholland '49
08-03-2012, 09:12 PM
I really can't imagine them writing a script featuring previous actors that are unsigned or ones that may not want to come back. That could end up being disastrous. Unless they're planning on writing while shooting like they did with First Class. But I really don't think anyone wants to go throught that again. We'll see though.

psyonic
08-03-2012, 09:41 PM
After the success of Avengers, I think there is a high chance that the original actors would come back if asked..

Primal Slayer
08-04-2012, 12:13 AM
Well she is pregnant right now so it might be to much for her to be a new.mother, shooting TB, and xmen. Though if smg can do Buffy and scooby doo half across the world, Anna could do tb & xmen if she weren't preggers.

Angamb
08-04-2012, 05:47 AM
I really can't imagine them writing a script featuring previous actors that are unsigned or ones that may not want to come back.

Thats exactly what I was wondering

Have they already asked the actors to come back? or are they just writing the script with the characters and if some of them dont want to return, they will change the characters?

:huh:

Its a risk to write a full great script and then to change some parts because two or three actors dont want to reprise their roles, and at the same time the special effects houses. They must be working on the action sequences already too... but if one or two actors rejects the role, it would be work in vain.

marvelrobbins
08-04-2012, 08:13 AM
I seriously doudt they didn't enquire on Intrest of actors before writing the script.Of course then they have to write agreat script the actorslike but I am sure they have asked the actors they want back If they are Intrested In returning.

craigdbfan
08-04-2012, 08:35 AM
Yeah most definitely. The actors from the previous X-Men film still have a really good relationship with Singer from what I know.

I'm sure if he expressed interest and said "Hey if I make you a significant part of the upcoming X-Men film do you think you'd be able to commit?" and then I'm sure it snowballed from there.

Even if they do some recasting here and there it would make sense since they're dealing with time travel which allows for these type of differences.

venus_ice
08-04-2012, 08:53 AM
Ratner had to BEG Ellen to be in X3, I wonder if she'll be up for it this time. My hopes are not high but I still want her in it :(

Angamb
08-04-2012, 09:14 AM
This is the current list of most voted on the board

1. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine 44
2. Ellen Page as Shadowcat 30
3. James Marsden as Cyclops 30
4. Halle Berry as Storm 22
5. Anna Paquin as Rogue 22
6. Shawn Ashmore as Iceman 20
7. Taylor Kitsch as Gambit 20
8. Kelsey Grammer as Beast 18
9. Daniel Cudmore as Colossus 17
10. Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler 15
11. Ben Foster as Angel 11
12. Famke Janssen as Jean Grey 11

I found interesting to see Halle, Anna, Shawn and Taylor with the same votes, more or less

Matthew, lets bring Gambit back! :D

Nevaratoiel
08-04-2012, 09:54 AM
I'd like to see them all back in the game. So unless they really find some better actors for the character, then I'd be fine with all of them.

Angamb
08-04-2012, 10:44 AM
any character could get a better actor, thats for sure

but I think there is something special with the whole cast of X3, too many talents together and familiar faces since X1.

would be amazing to see many of them together again on one scene, if not all

psyonic
08-04-2012, 10:53 AM
So I was checking out the wiki page for X3 and it said they wanted Keanu Reeves for Singer's X3? This is the first time I've read of it, but they did mention they wanted Sigourney Weaver as Emma Frost though.

marvelrobbins
08-04-2012, 11:12 AM
Gambit was suspose to be the major new character If Fox would have quickly signed Bryan singer for X3.He and his X2 writers had a treatment the did on their own but since Fox was taking their own sweet time with planning for third film and since Warner brothers had since 2002 wanted Singer to do Superman we lost It.

Singer was even considering doing story over 2 films shoot at same similar to Lord of the rings and Matrix sequels.

from what Is known It's major story would have focused on Phoenix(there wouldn't have been the cure storyline to distract from It) and have the X-Men,Brotherhood,and a version of Hellfir club led by older Emma Frost,who was empath and former lover of Xavier,Cyclops would have larger role and the Danger room being built would have key element.Gambit would be major new character Introduced.It's likely Colossus would have had beefed up role.Nightcrawler would have likely returned.They would have given Rogue something to do.However Storm might have been absent.The ending discussed was phoenix leaving the earth.Phoenix here instead of split personality would be evolving with Jean's expanding powers.

M-2
08-04-2012, 04:17 PM
I would love to see Gambit in this film or any X-Men film for that matter, but obviously a good interpretation of the character!! But I' think he might distract from this story...

The Cast of First Class should be the central figures of the story, and if they plan on bringing anyone back from the original trilogy, they should only be as supporting characters to the main cast or central to the storyline...

Days of Future Past is just giving me goose pimples!! This is really going to be awesome!!! But I really don't want too many Characters!!

Angamb
08-04-2012, 07:34 PM
how would you react if Fox confirms these actors for the sequel/adaptation?

http://i48.tinypic.com/15yera.jpg

JP
08-04-2012, 07:40 PM
More than excitment.

marvelrobbins
08-04-2012, 07:46 PM
That would be great even though I would be disappointed without Patrick Stewert.As one of best adaptions of a comic book characters ever I would like his final appearance as Xavier to be on high quality film.Plus wouldn't you like to see Storm flying and do some of action she did In Last Stand In high quality film.

Colossus and Kitty are the one roles I could see recast.Remember Colossus got one line of dialogue In Last Stand.Although I hope they did his armoe like In X2.It looked way too cheap In The Last Stand.

I am big fan of Kitty(this was influence from comics that Inspired Joss whedon with Buffy) I consider Jubilee to be poor man's Kitty and a hugh Inferior one too.I liked Ellen Page as Kitty.It would be nice to see her In the SingerVaughn Universe of films.And I want Kitty to have code name of Shadowcat

Mrs Vimes
08-04-2012, 08:04 PM
The Cast of First Class should be the central figures of the story, and if they plan on bringing anyone back from the original trilogy, they should only be as supporting characters to the main cast or central to the storyline...

I think there's a bit of danger in bringing in the original cast for the sake of "star power" or raising interest, and then relegating them to supporting roles with limited screentime and potentially leaving the audience feeling cheated. I mean, pretty much everyone loved the Wolverine cameo in First Class, but if his appearance was advertised beforehand and made it into the trailer, you'd have a large portion of audience expecting to see Wolverine for much longer than a few seconds and probably feeling quite ticked off when that didn't happen.

Mulholland '49
08-04-2012, 08:23 PM
how would you react if Fox confirms these actors for the sequel/adaptation?

http://i48.tinypic.com/15yera.jpg

Add Kelsey Grammar and you would make a young man very happy. :woot:

Angamb
08-04-2012, 08:27 PM
I have to be honest.....

I really wanted a normal sequel to First Class only with that cast.... but seeing now all these actors together, it feels really exciting

But Id still miss Anna, James Marsden, Ben Foster, Taylor K....

so many mixed feelings :(

JP
08-04-2012, 08:31 PM
I think there's a bit of danger in bringing in the original cast for the sake of "star power" or raising interest, and then relegating them to supporting roles with limited screentime and potentially leaving the audience feeling cheated. I mean, pretty much everyone loved the Wolverine cameo in First Class, but if his appearance was advertised beforehand and made it into the trailer, you'd have a large portion of audience expecting to see Wolverine for much longer than a few seconds and probably feeling quite ticked off when that didn't happen.
I imagine theyd want to be pretty tight lipped on which actors will show up.

Angamb
08-04-2012, 08:53 PM
Add Kelsey Grammar and you would make a young man very happy. :woot:

would be interesting to see Kelsey as Beast again, specially to have more badass action from him, with the creative team we already have. Not sure if it would be a good idea to use him on this particular storyline, tho, mainly having a young Beast on the same movie too. It would be interesting, definetly, but I doubt Fox does it.

on other hand, Daniel Cudmore has really grown, hehe. I saw many recent pics on him and he has a great look right now to play Collosus again. Would like to see him back, to see him with Wolverine and Kitty again, and having a better action moment too. The future sequences need one or two secondary/background characters too, so Collosus seems perfect, since he already appeared on X2 and X3. Matthew could give him two lines and a great short fight, and it would be more than enough to please many of the fans. I think

Primal Slayer
08-04-2012, 09:15 PM
As long as the movie is good, fans will be fine w the originals being supporting cast. They used drew Barrymore for her star power for scream and looked what they did.

Mulholland '49
08-04-2012, 10:06 PM
I kinda hope they recast Emma Frost.

JP
08-04-2012, 10:16 PM
Me too...

marvelrobbins
08-04-2012, 10:29 PM
I doudt they recast her.In X-Men trilogy they keep actors except for small roles.Some may not like january Jones as Emma but she Is under contract for 3 films and I doudt they replace her.

LibidoLoca
08-04-2012, 10:32 PM
Me too. I didn't care for the actress that much to be honest.

Mulholland '49
08-04-2012, 10:35 PM
But all she does is blink and talk in a monotonous voice. :(

Mrs Vimes
08-05-2012, 01:44 AM
I imagine theyd want to be pretty tight lipped on which actors will show up.

Certainly, but then it can't really be the case of, say, getting Halle Berry back as Storm because she'd bring star power, as some have argued. What's the point of star power if you keep it a secret?

LibidoLoca
08-05-2012, 02:07 AM
If they wanted to keep the returning actors secret, I could see them waiting until filming finishes up to announce them and then go all out in the marketing campaign (trailers, tv spots, etc.). But then again they may just announce them and get it over with.

Angamb
08-05-2012, 06:05 AM
Hugh and Halle are big names and Logan and Storm are great characters and all

but Id LOVE to see the young cast on the movie:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2dmcpaf.jpg

:hrt:

marvelrobbins
08-05-2012, 08:45 AM
At most I see 6 returing actors.1 to fill time traveler and the rest for future.

Patrick Stewert,Ian Mckellan,Hugh Jackman,and Halle Berry as ones most likely to get to return.

Now assuming wolverine Isn't time traveler My belief Is Kitty or Rogue.Now my bet Is Bryan Singer would like to go with Rogue as Time Traveler but both Anna due to give birth In november and her shooting schedule with True Blood may prevent her from being able to do the film.Remember Simon Kinberg hinted filming might not beguin till spring.If not rogue and they can get Ellen Page Kitty would fill role of time traveler.If they can't get her and don't recast Kitty I can see sceniro where they make Storm the Time Traveler

I am sure they want the future sequenzes to be seen as posable future of characters from earlier films.Combing X4/First Class 2 so to speak.So Inless Fox lets Singer and Matthew Vaughn just say The Last Stand Isn't part of film contunity Cyclops won't be In film.

Now If filming does beguin In January come october/November we may start to get news on film.If filming doesn't beguin till Spring we might not get any news till January.

Great Mind(s)
08-05-2012, 09:12 AM
I'm so giddy with X-Citement of what this movie may be. If there will be an alternate future, BRING BACK JAMES MARDSEN ! And give him a bigger role...have him be a badass alternate timeline leader of the X-Men.

Nathan
08-05-2012, 10:37 AM
The one person that definitely has to be re-cast, is Halle. I'd take everyone else back, if it meant we get a new and better Storm.

JP
08-05-2012, 10:42 AM
After seeing Vaughn's take on all of the characters in First Class, I wouldn't mind seeing what he could do for Storm.

Duran Man
08-05-2012, 12:24 PM
Hugh and Halle are big names and Logan and Storm are great characters and all

but Id LOVE to see the young cast on the movie:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2dmcpaf.jpg

:hrt:


Who's the guy on the far right?

psylockolussus
08-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Having 4 to 5 cast members from the original trilogy would make the cast bloated. I hope there are only 2 to 3 cast remember from the original trilogy and the rest are cameos. Sometimes it hard to keep up with a large cast.

marvelrobbins
08-07-2012, 12:55 PM
Most of them would be extended cameos with only a few minutes of screentime.Only one who Is time travler would get a lot of screentime.

remember we don't know If Moira will be In sequel and if Riptide and Angel will still be with brotherhood

Angamb
08-07-2012, 01:52 PM
Who's the guy on the far right?

Taylor Kitsch. I think its from a photoshoot of this year

Star
08-07-2012, 05:02 PM
NO NO NO NOT ELLEN PAGE UGH.

I can't stand her as Kitty.

Star
08-07-2012, 05:04 PM
I kinda hope they recast Emma Frost.

and this too

Angamb
08-07-2012, 05:09 PM
I could understand some didnt like how Kitty was portrayed in X3, but Ellen can really do a great job with the character, it just depends on the director and script.

Majik1387
08-07-2012, 05:09 PM
Who's the guy on the far right?
Taylor Kitsch, Gambit from Wolverine Origins.

JP
08-07-2012, 05:37 PM
NO NO NO NOT ELLEN PAGE UGH.

I can't stand her as Kitty.
Honestly, Ellen would have absolutely no relevance as Kitty in this film. She was barely in TLS.

marcvader
08-07-2012, 05:42 PM
Yeah, she's good at doing the quirky sarcastic dry humored characters but that's all.

Duran Man
08-07-2012, 08:56 PM
I think they should recast Kitty if she appears in the movie. I think Lyndsy Fonesca would be good.

merbass
08-09-2012, 03:47 AM
Does no one wants Rebecca to come back as an older Mystique ? Perhaps she is the one who travelled back in time ??

OsGom
08-09-2012, 09:19 AM
Kitty, beyond being a mutant, is an intelligent, nerdy and awkward little spitfire. She never relied too much on her power but more on her cleverness and ingenuity. Honestly, i can't think of an actress that can portray that better than Ellen Page. But if they decide to cast younger I would suggest Hailee Steinfeld.

Great Mind(s)
08-09-2012, 10:35 AM
They had to convince Ellen Page hard apparently for Kitty. After the critical failure of Last Stand, would she really want to come back? Would anyone other than Hugh Jackman? I wish they would believe me, but they would need to be convinced. And I would be absolutely super POed if they recast characters from the originals. If they can't get the actors back, don't bring the characters back. There are so many X-Men characters you could use. What exactly would the point of Kitty going back in time be? She's not even alive in the 60s, what mind is she going to pop into?
My theory: Xavier's mind that is free roaming (or in the paralyzed man) should go back in time into his own body. But that would be acknowledging Last Stand as canon and it would seem Sentinels weren't on their way in that movie.

Majik1387
08-09-2012, 02:48 PM
I'm certain Page will return. She has to break the Kitty recast curse. :o:oldrazz:

Mulholland '49
08-09-2012, 03:42 PM
Does no one wants Rebecca to come back as an older Mystique ? Perhaps she is the one who travelled back in time ??

Of course. She was awesome! I like her Mystique much more than Lawrence's.

henzINNIT
08-09-2012, 03:48 PM
Sod continuity, I want Marsden in the future sequence, blasting sentinels like a boss.

I also hope for Rogue if there is a time traveller.

Great Mind(s)
08-09-2012, 07:14 PM
Alternate timeline bro! Rogue has her strength, Cyclops + Magneto lead a badass team of mutant rebels.

henzINNIT
08-09-2012, 08:22 PM
Alternate timeline bro! Rogue has her strength, Cyclops + Magneto lead a badass team of mutant rebels.

It must happen.

Majik1387
08-09-2012, 08:24 PM
Honestly, regarding Rogue's powers, as well as establishing the cure didn't work, they can refer to it as a secondary mutation, as it's been a big part of X-Comics. I think she'd be fine with her touch and flight alone, and then stealing the strength from a powerhouse at some point to where the powerhouse is at the brink of death, but their strength became a part of of her powers due to how long she absorbed them.

Great Mind(s)
08-09-2012, 09:21 PM
Honestly, regarding Rogue's powers, as well as establishing the cure didn't work, they can refer to it as a secondary mutation, as it's been a big part of X-Comics. I think she'd be fine with her touch and flight alone, and then stealing the strength from a powerhouse at some point to where the powerhouse is at the brink of death, but their strength became a part of of her powers due to how long she absorbed them.

Well keeping a power for life because she killed the person was always a great plot device for Rogue IMO. But then again I've only read/own a handful of classic X-Men tales and watched the 90s series. But religiously, mind you.

OsGom
08-10-2012, 12:48 PM
They had to convince Ellen Page hard apparently for Kitty. After the critical failure of Last Stand, would she really want to come back? Would anyone other than Hugh Jackman? I wish they would believe me, but they would need to be convinced. And I would be absolutely super POed if they recast characters from the originals. If they can't get the actors back, don't bring the characters back. There are so many X-Men characters you could use. What exactly would the point of Kitty going back in time be? She's not even alive in the 60s, what mind is she going to pop into?
My theory: Xavier's mind that is free roaming (or in the paralyzed man) should go back in time into his own body. But that would be acknowledging Last Stand as canon and it would seem Sentinels weren't on their way in that movie.

Sod continuity, I want Marsden in the future sequence, blasting sentinels like a boss.

I also hope for Rogue if there is a time traveller.

Maybe if all the X movies weren't so focused on Wolverine other actors might consider reprising their roles.

Regardless, if they aren't going to use X3 as canon then Kitty Pride makes more sense than Rogue and if they do use X3 as canon then she makes as much sense as Rogue, and is portrayed by a better actress in a role that was written for the character in the source material. Rogue was a waste of a character in X3 and really didn't live up to her potential outside of being a damsel in distress in any of the trilogy. I personally wouldn't mind if the character, in her current incarnation, was written out of the series completely.

Professor X's death was a prelude to the rise of sentinels in the source material and contributed to what made the oppression in the future so profound. Keeping him alive and sending his consciousness back in time kind of undermines the hopelessness of the future.

Hellion
08-10-2012, 01:40 PM
100% sure they'd come back: Hugh & Halle (I'm pretty sure she said she wanted to)...

who would I like to see back personally: James, Anna, Ben, Kelsey, Daniel, and Rebecca (mostly their characters deserve another proper go)

Great Mind(s)
08-10-2012, 05:23 PM
James Marsden is always talking about how he wants to come back. It would be a CRIME not to have him. A crime I tell you. I thought he was really good in X-Men 1.

Angamb
08-10-2012, 07:21 PM
who would I like to see back personally: James, Anna, Ben, Daniel

Id love to see all of them again too, looking like a bit older and more experienced x-men, specially Anna, Daniel and Ben, well, and James too, Id really like to see acting like comics Cyclops, more comanding and badass in action.

MarvelKnight
08-10-2012, 07:28 PM
I'd like to see Famke Janssen come back. No thanks to Halle Berry

merbass
08-11-2012, 07:41 PM
I would like Femke to come back too, but will they bring Phoenix to the storyline again ?
Halle will be in CLoud Atlas, so her popularity may come back again.

Genosha
08-12-2012, 03:59 AM
Secretly hoping for some Gambit and Rogue appearances, if they could make it work. I like both Taylor and Anna in those roles.

747
08-12-2012, 12:23 PM
Page as Kitty was great with what little she got, I don't get the hate!

And re-cast Emma Frost, wtf?

James_Smith
08-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Marsden is on the record saying he would love to play the role of Cyclops again (http://splashpage.http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/09/16/x-men-james-marsden-cyclops/mtv.com/2011/09/16/x-men-james-marsden-cyclops/), as are Stewart for Prof. X (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=18710) and Berry for Storm (http://screenrant.com/x-men-4-can-halle-berry-promise-it-wont-stink-vic-551/). Ashmore is still contracted to play Iceman in a fourth film (http://blastr.com/2009/04/shawn-ashmore-ready-and-s.php)as well, and of course Hugh Jackman has said he'll play Wolverine for as long as he can (http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=47122). I have no confirmation of this, but it's very likely cast members for X-Men: The Last Stand were signed under multiple picture deals, so for instance Ellen Page appearing as Shadowcat or Kelsey Grammar playing an older Beast wouldn't be totally out of the question.

Other original actors however such as Famke Janssen and Anna Paguin are no longer under contract and would be difficult to bring back to the franchise (http://www.dailynews.com/search/ci_4177414) (but story-wise that's okay because Jean is dead and they can say the Cure was indeed permanent for some mutants, e.g. Rogue).

With such facts in mind, these are the characters I would like to feature in X-Men: Days Of Future Past:

1970s Ensemble

James McAvoy as Prof. X
Nicholas Hoult as Beast
Lucas Till as Havok
Skyler Samuels as Magma
Ryan Kwanten as Cannonball
Michael Fassbender as Magneto
Jennifer Lawrence as Mystigue

Story-wise, I want this to take place 8-10 years after First Class; Banshee has left, while other mutants such as Magma and Cannonball have joined the team in that time. I want it to be implied that Magneto's brotherhood has grown, but I only want Mags himself and Mystigue to play any sort of role (NOT as the main villain; save that for the next film, and not at all in the future as he will be dead by then).

Present-day Ensemble

James Marsden as Cyclops
Halle Berry as Storm
Shawn Ashmore as an older Iceman
Josh Holloway as an older Gambit
Kelsey Grammar as an older Beast
Hugh Jackman as Wolverine

Story-wise, I want Cyclops reappearance to be tied into the time-travelling plot somehow (e.g. he's already back at the start of the movie, and later it's explained that Bishop saved him from the Phoenix and transported him to the future where he was needed). Wolverine needs to be a minor supporting character (he'll have left the X-men after Beast takes over as headmaster of the school, but be helping with the fight on a solo level).

Other (time-travelling)

Ellen Page as Shadowcat
Morris Chestnut as Bishop

Not entirely sure how I want the story to play out here, but Shadowcat and Bishop need to be the only characters that appear in both time periods (until the final battle where the teams potentially join forces to fight an army of sentinels; maybe in the future, before time is righted and the dystopian future disappears and everyone is returned to their respective periods). Again, I don't know what I want to be the historical trigger for the dystopia (or Sentinel Program if that's what leads to it), but for the main bulk of the story Shadowcat and Bishop must be the only characters that travel between time periods in order to keep the perspectives (for the audience) clear.

Majik1387
08-12-2012, 03:45 PM
Page as Kitty was great with what little she got, I don't get the hate!

And re-cast Emma Frost, wtf?
Some people are never happy.

magneto23
08-12-2012, 04:18 PM
I'm not understanding why people are bringing up Marsden/Cyclops and Stewart/ProfX. We saw these characters killed in TLS. How will they appear in this story without totally mind fu#king the audience?

Majik1387
08-12-2012, 04:25 PM
Actually, we didn't see Cyclops die at all. :o

As for Prof X, we saw his mind transfer.

James_Smith
08-12-2012, 04:35 PM
I'm not understanding why people are bringing up Marsden/Cyclops and Stewart/ProfX. We saw these characters killed in TLS. How will they appear in this story without totally mind fu#king the audience?

We never saw Cyclops die, and I explained in my post above how it could work...

JP
08-12-2012, 04:40 PM
I'm not understanding why people are bringing up Marsden/Cyclops and Stewart/ProfX. We saw these characters killed in TLS. How will they appear in this story without totally mind fu#king the audience?
Because DoFP would create an alternate future, so anything that has happened in X1-3 is would be null and void.

magneto23
08-12-2012, 05:01 PM
Because DoFP would create an alternate future, so anything that has happened in X1-3 is would be null and void.

So right of the bat we will be viewing an alt world? Not the time line we know now? I thought the FC time line would separate and become the alt as a result of whatever goes down. In turn leaving the original trilogy time line as a dead end. Still confused.

Majik1387
08-12-2012, 05:05 PM
Look at it this way, original trilogy somehow led to DoFP future, so they have a character travel to First Class's timeline to warn them, so they can change the future, negating the negatives of the original trilogy; possibly fixing what was wrong with the original trilogy.

Angamb
08-12-2012, 05:39 PM
interesting :D

magneto23
08-12-2012, 06:33 PM
Look at it this way, original trilogy somehow led to DoFP future, so they have a character travel to First Class's timeline to warn them, so they can change the future, negating the negatives of the original trilogy; possibly fixing what was wrong with the original trilogy.


But they aren't going to be "fixing" anything until the end of the movie. So how are we going to get all these dead characters if the future isn't changed until the conclusion of the film? Doesn't add up.

Mrs Vimes
08-12-2012, 08:58 PM
I'm not understanding why people are bringing up Marsden/Cyclops and Stewart/ProfX. We saw these characters killed in TLS. How will they appear in this story without totally mind fu#king the audience?

You could look at it this way: we could see Cyclops and Professor X appear, but these would not be the exact same characters seen in X1-X3. Instead, they're Cyclops and Professor X from the alternate timeline, in which the mutants are incarcerated and in which the events of X1-X3 never happened.

Genosha
08-13-2012, 12:57 AM
I definitely want Banshee back. But please give some more Irish roots. My biggest criticism for the X-Men movies is taking characters nationality and changing them to be American. It seriously drives me nuts! What I loved about growing up with X-Men comics was there amazing display of diversity. They came from all parts of the world unlike many other Marvel characters.

DigificWriter
08-13-2012, 02:24 AM
We don't know at this stage whether or not Singer - as the man now nominally in charge of the X franchise - will use DoFP to render TLS out-of-continuity. Even if actors from TLS such as Ellen Page and Kelsey Grammer do return, it IS possible for them to be playing different versions of their respective characters for whom the events of TLS didn't happen, and the same thing applies to other characters as well.

OsGom
08-15-2012, 11:08 AM
Page as Kitty was great with what little she got, I don't get the hate!

And re-cast Emma Frost, wtf?

Agreed! Kitty was one of the few bright spots from X3. The way she ingeniously dealt with Juggernaut was pretty epic.

X-Maniac
08-15-2012, 11:13 AM
Look at it this way, original trilogy somehow led to DoFP future, so they have a character travel to First Class's timeline to warn them, so they can change the future, negating the negatives of the original trilogy; possibly fixing what was wrong with the original trilogy.

Or the First Class continuity led to DoFP future and they come back in time to change it, but end up creating a new continuity altogether (in which X1-X3 never happened).

chaseter
08-15-2012, 02:28 PM
But they aren't going to be "fixing" anything until the end of the movie. So how are we going to get all these dead characters if the future isn't changed until the conclusion of the film? Doesn't add up.

Alternate timeline. If they fix the issue by the end of the movie then the dystopian future will never happen and the X-Man would never have traveled back in time...creating a paradox. Only other way is the Terminator logic that you can't change the future, just delay it...but that still creates paradoxes too as the machines would have never sent Ahnold back in time.

Alternate timeline ala Star Trek solves that.

BobJM
08-16-2012, 10:28 PM
is it confirmed that original cast members are expected to return? or is this all just excited speculation?

Majik1387
08-16-2012, 10:44 PM
All speculation of course; Though I'd most definitely count Hugh Jackman as in, even though he nor Singer or anyone at Fox said anything.

BobJM
08-18-2012, 11:44 PM
yeah, that'd be the obvious suspect. and i doubt fox will bring back ellen page. if anyone will be beside hugh, expect patrick (wouldn't it be cool if he was walking, via that whole "new body" thing in x3), halle, and/or ian. it'd be great to see cyclops, but that seems unlikely, despite james's interest.

Majik1387
08-18-2012, 11:48 PM
Why do you doubt Page's return?

Phoenix_Flare
08-19-2012, 10:24 AM
personally i would love to see some, not everyone, from X1-2 make a cameo appearance in the distopian future...they can be mutant rebels fighting against the Sentinels...I'm sure the original actor would come back, if asked, If Rebecca and Hugh were nice enough to, then we just may see James, Famke, & Berry, etc

The Batman
08-20-2012, 11:42 PM
In a perfect world, Cyclops would steal Wolverine's role in this film the way Logan stole Scotts role in the adaption of the Dark Phoenix saga.

I really dont wanna see Wolverine in this film.

BMM
08-21-2012, 12:31 AM
No thanks. Two wrongs don’t make a right and, if Cyclops were to occupy Wolverine’s actual role in Days of Future Past, it would just mean he gets obliterated by sentinels. I don’t need to see Cyclops die again.

mjdiddy1
08-21-2012, 11:35 AM
Am I the only one who feels this Days of Future Past would be a good thing for the X-franchise. By doing something in the past with First Class, it would totally change the future trilogy (the original trilogy) creating a virtual Tabula Rasa where in effect Cyclops, Jean, and Charles are still alive, Mystique never lost her powers and X3 never happened (or X1 & X2). This story could set up a new status quo for the franchise.

The Batman
08-21-2012, 11:42 AM
No thanks. Two wrongs don’t make a right and, if Cyclops were to occupy Wolverine’s actual role in Days of Future Past, it would just mean he gets obliterated by sentinels. I don’t need to see Cyclops die again.

So you'd rather see Wolverine eat up screentime yet again while Cyclops is on the backburner.

Gotcha.

And the two wrongs would be giving Hugh Jackman yet another prominent role when already dominated the previous trilogy and has two solo films of his own. At least with Cyclops, I can trust that it would be an actual ensemble movie.

JP
08-21-2012, 01:05 PM
I don't understand why the only 2 options are a) No Wolverine or b) Wolverine as the star of the film.


:huh:

The Batman
08-21-2012, 01:17 PM
^ Because that's what generally happens in a Fox produced X-Men movie where Hugh Jackman has more than a cameo?

If they somehow actually make this more of an ensemble film, great....but Hugh Jackman has been established as one of, if not the main draw of these films. If he's in the movie, he'll most likely be the star of it.

JP
08-21-2012, 01:20 PM
This is still a FIRST CLASS sequel. Fassbender, Lawrence, and McAvoy are the stars, and will remain the stars no matter who they add. And that includes Jackman and Berry.

The Batman
08-21-2012, 01:28 PM
^ I mean, I'd like to believe that, but Jackman is a bigger name than any of those guys. But fox has changed, so maybe they'll actually make this more ensemble based.

Majik1387
08-21-2012, 01:58 PM
Doesn't matter if Jackman is a bigger name, he's getting his own solo movie again; I highly doubt they will make him larger than McAvoy, Fassbender, and Lawrence.

X-Maniac
08-21-2012, 02:44 PM
^ I mean, I'd like to believe that, but Jackman is a bigger name than any of those guys. But fox has changed, so maybe they'll actually make this more ensemble based.

Hopefully. The films where he dominated (X3, XMO: Wolverine) were the worst and the one where he had the tiniest role (First Class) was among Wolverine's best appearances! Less is more, as they say.

kewlmatto
08-28-2012, 05:11 AM
Am I the only one who feels this Days of Future Past would be a good thing for the X-franchise. By doing something in the past with First Class, it would totally change the future trilogy (the original trilogy) creating a virtual Tabula Rasa where in effect Cyclops, Jean, and Charles are still alive, Mystique never lost her powers and X3 never happened (or X1 & X2). This story could set up a new status quo for the franchise.

I generally agree. It's actually a clever move by Fox to keep the franchise going without completely 'rebooting'.

But it does have the potential to become very convoluted if not done well. Still, I have faith that Vaughn will deliver a good film.

Project862006
08-28-2012, 05:53 AM
I don't understand why the only 2 options are a) No Wolverine or b) Wolverine as the star of the film.


:huh:
probablybecause he is the star of the storyline

X-Maniac
09-04-2012, 02:03 PM
He's almost certain to be in the next X-Men team movie, but I hope the screentime is fair and balanced and the characterisation correct. He was made to be too central in X3. First Class proves he is just as memorable with not very much screentime at all!

Snikt
09-04-2012, 02:15 PM
I'm really wanting some casting news :D. To me, it makes sense for Jackman to go from The Wolverine to DOFP. He'd already be in shape for Wolverine and I'm sure he wouldn't have to be there for the entire five to six month shoot they'll probably have.

Angamb
09-04-2012, 02:24 PM
^ Because that's what generally happens in a Fox produced X-Men movie where Hugh Jackman has more than a cameo?

If they somehow actually make this more of an ensemble film, great....but Hugh Jackman has been established as one of, if not the main draw of these films. If he's in the movie, he'll most likely be the star of it.

But there should be a day where it stops for once and for all.

And this is the right time.

Wolverine can be a supporter role, the same as Storm, or any other x-men in the future.

Duran Man
09-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Most of the action will take place in the present, so if Wolverine does appear in the movie, a good way to keep him from taking the spotlight is by keeping him in the future. If they make him the time traveller, then get ready to see him as the star of the show again.

Whiskey Tango
09-04-2012, 02:58 PM
Jackman's cool. I feel like he wouldn't have a problem making a small appearance where a futuristic Wolverine gets fried. I've never seen any indication where he's tried to hog screentime or anything, they've just written the roles that way.

X-Maniac
09-04-2012, 06:10 PM
Wolverine already exists in the First Class era, as we saw him in that bar. How will they deal with that?

Does the 60s version become involved in the story again, or just disappear never to be mentioned?

This is always the problem with cameos in these films. They prove to be hurdles later on.

Spider-Fan83
09-04-2012, 06:48 PM
well, that would've been right around the time he enlisted an was shipped off to the war, so, he wouldn't be around, anyway

psylockolussus
09-05-2012, 05:58 AM
Wolverine already exists in the First Class era, as we saw him in that bar. How will they deal with that?

Does the 60s version become involved in the story again, or just disappear never to be mentioned?

For me that scene was merely a cameo. Even if Magneto/Professor X mentioned about it to the future Wolverine, Wolverine wouldn't remember about it because of his memory loss.

Great Mind(s)
09-05-2012, 07:46 AM
I also doubt Magneto or Xavier remember that Wolverine is the same random guy they came up to in a bar 40 years ago...

Spider-Fan83
09-05-2012, 08:19 AM
he wasn't just some random guy, at least not to Xavier who personally tracked him down with cerebro, through which he clams to connect to the individuals... so I am sure that not something he'd just forget about

though, that does kinda make me question why he wasted his time approaching him at all, having made such a connect and knowing what he was like

JP
09-05-2012, 08:23 AM
he wasn't just some random guy, at least not to Xavier who personally tracked him down with cerebro, through which he clams to connect to the individuals... so I am sure that not something he'd just forget about

though, that does kinda make me question why he wasted his time approaching him at all, have made such a connect and knowing what he was like
But from the first 2 X-Men films we already get the sense that Magneto and Xavier know a lot about Wolverine.

As for Logan himself... if someone came an introduced themselves to you at a bar for 3 seconds 40 years ago, would you remember their exact names in the present?

I've had full conversations with people at bars for hours whom I not only don't remember their names, but I probably wouldn't even remember their face if I ran into them today.

Spider-Fan83
09-05-2012, 08:37 AM
I'm not saying Wolverine would remember them

plus that was before he loss his memory


but, that's an interesting point about how Magneto and Xavier did seem to know alot about wolverine (Xavier I could see cause he read his mind) but, Magneto knowing would suggestion past interaction with him (more then just running into him in a bar that one time) could their knowledge of him, be based on there interaction with future wolverine coming to the past

huzzah
09-05-2012, 08:54 AM
I thought Magneto and Xavier/Cerebro identified Wolverine as a mutant and not just a random person in a bar.

mclay18
09-05-2012, 10:42 AM
If Fox will go through the storyline, I think Hugh Jackman will have a role of some sort as Wolverine in DoFP. The only actors I want returning would be Shawn Ashmore, Anna Paquin, Famke Janssen, Daniel Cudman, and James Marsden.

I mean, the new cast members like Fassbender, McAvoy, Lawrence, et al are going to be hard to juggle as it is. Might as well keep the amount of returning actors to a minimum.

marvelrobbins
09-05-2012, 11:25 AM
Anna Paquin Is defently out.True Blood starts filming In January.Famke Janssen won't be back.Bringing back Ian Mckellan could also run Into trouble.It depends when DOFP goes Into production and when addational Filming for the Hobbit begins.

Hugh Jackman will probally appear.Now rather he only appears In future sequenze or rather he Is also time traveler Is up In air.James Marsden appearing depends on one thing.Are they going to only consider X-Men and X2 to connect First Class or Is Last Stand as well.The sentinles future will almost certinly be used to connect First Class to earlier films.The question remains which ones.Besides Time traveler the returning actors will be expanded Cameos.I think Halle Berry and Patrick Stewert are likely.
Besides Jackman and Mckellan the more obvious possibiltys are Shawn Ashmore,Daniel Cudman,and possibly Rebecca Romijn.

Will they try ot get Ellen Page back?That Is big unknown.

Electrix
09-05-2012, 12:33 PM
If Fox will go through the storyline, I think Hugh Jackman will have a role of some sort as Wolverine in DoFP. The only actors I want returning would be Shawn Ashmore, Anna Paquin, Famke Janssen, Daniel Cudman, and James Marsden.

I mean, the new cast members like Fassbender, McAvoy, Lawrence, et al are going to be hard to juggle as it is. Might as well keep the amount of returning actors to a minimum.

The big players from the original trilogy were Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart. If Fox want to create an Avengers-style event team-up movie most (if not all) will need to be involved somehow.

Seeing Iceman, Colossus and Shadowcast etc. again would be cool speaking as an X-Men fan, but they're unlikely to be included unless they serve a purpose in the story. I can see some characters from First Class (Angel, Riptide) getting the chop just to even things out a bit.