Line-Up?

[HighFivingMF]

So, who do you think will be in the movie's Justice League and is there a different line-up you would prefer?

[The Boy Scout]

Who I'd like? Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, and Aquaman.

Who I think it'll be? Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Aquaman for sure. I don't know if they'll want to risk turning some people off by including GL, but at the same time, I can see them using JL as an opportunity to showcase just how badass he can be. If they don't use him, I can see them using Hawkgirl.

[Rockstar]

Realistically, it's going to be:


Superman

Batman

Wonder Woman - Token Girl

Green Lantern (John Stewart) - Token Black Guy

Flash

Aquaman

MM

[Llama_Shepherd]

There will be one woman and probably a black guy. Probably John, Cyborg or MM's human form. In any case, I'd go for:

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Hal Jordan
Barry Allen
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter

[CinematicESP]

Here's an idea...

Develop two movies BEFORE the Justice League movie: World's Finest, the team-up of Batman and Superman, and The Brave and the Bold, which would be the about the formation of the Justice League without Batman and Superman. The line-up could be similar to JLA: Year One...

Aquaman
The Flash
Green Lantern
Martian Manhunter
Wonder Woman (instead of Black Canary)

Then the movie titled Justice League would deal with Batman coming to Superman with concerns about the recently formed Justice League. It would be like World's Finest vs. the Justice League until they unite under the same banner against a common enemy.

That way, The Brave and the Bold can introduce some of the minor heroes if they haven't already been introduced in individual films. And heck, if they needed more of a brand name, they could call it Justice League: Year One, and have the second one be simply Justice League.

[CConn]

^ Except that they're obviously not going to do that at all. :o

The lineup will definitely be:

Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Barry)
Green Lantern (Hal)

I think outside of that, everyone else is up in the air. Maybe DC will want to continue to drive diversity in their line and include Cyborg like in the current comics, maybe Aquaman will be in, maybe they'll decide he's still a bit too mocked by the GA to be introduced right now. You never know.

[Boom]

CConn hit it on the head. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern are pretty much guarantees. Aquaman and Martian Manhunter are wild cards, and WB might decide that the big five are enough.

[CinematicESP]

Yeah, I'd be surprised if any of those five aren't in it, though I could see Martian Manhunter serving a Nick Fury-like role, getting the team together, kinda like in the first Justice League episode.

[LauraT]

I think they might well leave Aquaman out, he'll be an expensive hard sell and there's already enough to be going on with even if you only have Batman, Supes, WW, Flash and GL. Especially if they they have to "introduce" WW and Flash and rebrand GL.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I'd say there's got have to at least five to be a "league". Give Aquaman the sixth spot so he can have a real bad ass role and silence the haters forever.

[solidsnake86]

^ Except that they're obviously not going to do that at all. :o

The lineup will definitely be:

Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Barry)
Green Lantern (Hal)

I think outside of that, everyone else is up in the air. Maybe DC will want to continue to drive diversity in their line and include Cyborg like in the current comics, maybe Aquaman will be in, maybe they'll decide he's still a bit too mocked by the GA to be introduced right now. You never know.

^this. I think Martian Manhunter's chances went away when they removed him from the justice league in the comics. Aquaman is give or take like you said. Also, I could see a green arrow cameo if they really wanted to bring attention to the tv series if its well received.

[protocida]

I'd bet it's Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern.

[solidsnake86]

I also see GL being a case of either wanting to keep reynolds or just using john stewart instead.

Personally I like reynolds and dont get the hate against him but I would be fine if they went with stewart instead. That said, the whole point of DC entertainment was to harmonize all the different mediums. So they went through the trouble of bringing barry allen back, putting hal in the justice league. It would make sense if thats the roster they went with.

[CConn]

I think the bigger question is, who will be the non-powered supporting fast. You know they'll have to have some kind of Nick Fury/Amanda Waller character to bring everything together.

[solidsnake86]

^they could do steven trevor like the comics is using his character now, that may be a possibility. Depending on how much they want to distance themselves from GL, they may or may not bring waller in.

[Bruce_Begins]

WB would want Batman and Superman to be a part of Justice League, it is not even debatable, those two are the most popular heroes.
Green Lantern would be included as Hal Jordan or as John Stewart. Wonder Woman will also be included, Flash is an important part of the League, so he will be there.

So, members who are almost guaranteed to be included are -

Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash.

They could add one more member like Cyborg (for the sake of diversity, if GL is Hal Jordan, or Martian Manhunter.)

Green Arrow will not be included as they would want to avoid making it look like they are copying Avenger's Hawkeye (even though GA was created earlier than Hawkeye.) Green arrow is getting his own TV series on CW so he will not be there.

Aquaman requires a big set up explaining his back story, his mythology etc, so unless he gets a solo movie first (and that would be expensive) I don't see them including Aquaman, besides he is not that popular.

I do not see them making a team up of more than six heroes for JL.

[DoomsdayApex]

Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
The Flash
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter
Hawkgirl

[That Guy]

These are the five that need to be part of the league.
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern

Aquaman, Green Arrow, and Martian Manhunter would also work. Overall I think at minimum the league will need 6 members, and at the maximum 8.

[Rockstar]

I'm willing to bet it will be the same lineup from Justice League Mortal.

Two Reasons.


1) They need John Stewart for diversity and despite the fans wanting a better Hal Jordan, it's easier for WB to reimagine and relaunch GL with John Stewart.


2) They will use the storyboards from JL:M, just as they reused "Flyby" material for Man of Steel. They invested too much money in JL:M to let it slide.


The villains could easily end up being the OMACs or a similar type of army that works with the storyboards they have. Just as Ty-Zor became Zod.

[shauner111]

I think they should leave out Martian Manhunter.

Leave Aquaman for the sequel. Hint at him at the end of JLA and then do his solo movie. Because like a lot of people say, it's going to take a lot of time and money. They won't have time to establish him before the team up happens and they should concentrate on how to make him cool/relevant, etc. I don't even think that they have any idea of what do with his story yet.

I think just replacing Hal Jordan is not the best option. John Stewart should be the next Green Lantern. It's an easy way to continue from Reynolds.

Batman (from the reboot)
Superman (hopefully Cavill to avoid confusion)
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern (cast a black actor, any suggestions?)
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Aquaman (for a possible sequel)

Nolan producing, Yates or Fleischer directing, Biell writing.

[The Guard]

JUSTICE LEAGUE: MORTAL more or less got the lineup right. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash, The Martian Manhunter and Aquaman. Max Lord was a supporting character AND villain, with Talia as supporting villain.

John Stewart was basically a cypher in JL: MORTAL. I get why people would want to see him, but I think it'd be best to use Hal Jordan, building on the solo film and increasing interest in a possible GL sequel or even a Green Lantern/Flash teamup film. I'd use Aquaman and possibly The Atom as supporting characters, and save the Hawks, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Zatanna, etc, for sequels.

Seven leaguers worked quite well in the JL: MORTAL script. There's no reason to have any less than seven leaguers in THE JUSTICE LEAGUE. You could have seven leaguers, a supporting government type, and a villain and backup army and still be able to introduce and flesh out the characters fairly well.

[Rockstar]

I doubt they'd ditch Aquaman when his film is one of the solo franchises that WB wants to develop.

[shauner111]

It wouldn't be ditching if you do a major reference to him at the end of the film. It would be different from Avengers' post credit villain hint. A cool way to add something special to a sequel. Martian Manhunter could be hinted at the end of the 2nd. A new member each movie.

They won't use Talia because of TDKR. There's gonna be some changes for sure.

[solidsnake86]

I can see them using certain aspects of the JLM script, but you also have to remember they killed off barry allen which I don't think they will be doing this time around. I really think they may have started from scratch on this one.

[az824]

It wouldn't be ditching if you do a major reference to him at the end of the film. It would be different from Avengers' post credit villain hint. A cool way to add something special to a sequel. Martian Manhunter could be hinted at the end of the 2nd. A new member each movie.

They won't use Talia because of TDKR. There's gonna be some changes for sure.

You should put that in spoiler brackets for people who don't want to know TDKR spoilers

[sethypants]

^ Except that they're obviously not going to do that at all. :o

The lineup will definitely be:

Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Barry)
Green Lantern (Hal)

I think outside of that, everyone else is up in the air. Maybe DC will want to continue to drive diversity in their line and include Cyborg like in the current comics, maybe Aquaman will be in, maybe they'll decide he's still a bit too mocked by the GA to be introduced right now. You never know.

qft

[sethypants]

If GL isn't Hal, Ill probably not watch it.

[EditNinja]

From this pic, delete Cyborg and add Martian Manhunter to the lineup...

http://www.wordofthenerdonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DCCWeCanBeHeroes7Pk.jpg

[Juan1193]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm2o8sWJIQ1qbujox.jpg


These 5 heroes will do. As for the GL just go with Hal over John since he has already been established (because adding John just for diversity sakes is not a good enough reason to include him). Im also indifferent to Aquaman being included although I could see Martian Manhunter being used

[sethypants]

I don't understand what is everyone's obsession with Martian Manhunter. He is boring and makes the team over powered. Cyborg is a much better addition to the team.

[HighFivingMF]

Make villain stronger. Poof. No such thing as overpowered.

[DoomsdayApex]

Precisely.

I was never a big fan of Cyborg anyways. That, and I've always wanted to see what concept the production artists would come up with in a live-action adaptation.

[Rockstar]

edit

[shauner111]

If GL isn't Hal, Ill probably not watch it.

That's ridiculous.

Martian Manhunter on the other hand. I agree with you. He's boring to me. There's a reason why they have replaced him like it's no problem. I just don't like Cyborg either.

Aquaman is the wild card i think. When the heck are they planning to film this JLA movie?? Seems like it's announced but it could take a long time to get it done. If they don't take too long, how can they pump out his solo movie in the next 4 or 5 years when they're putting all their energy on MOS, the Batman reboot, WW and Flash? Plus thinking of what to do with GL..

I still stand by the choice of just debuting the character in Justice League, maybe a cameo is enough in one of the other solos. Then after JLA you go back in time and show his origin. Or use him as the cliffhanger at the end of it, do the origin, and bring him in the team full-time for a sequel.

[Llama_Shepherd]

I wouldn't expect this to get filming for a couple of years, if it is ever filmed.

[sethypants]

That's ridiculous.

Martian Manhunter on the other hand. I agree with you. He's boring to me. There's a reason why they have replaced him like it's no problem. I just don't like Cyborg either.

Aquaman is the wild card i think. When the heck are they planning to film this JLA movie?? Seems like it's announced but it could take a long time to get it done. If they don't take too long, how can they pump out his solo movie in the next 4 or 5 years when they're putting all their energy on MOS, the Batman reboot, WW and Flash? Plus thinking of what to do with GL..

I still stand by the choice of just debuting the character in Justice League, maybe a cameo is enough in one of the other solos. Then after JLA you go back in time and show his origin. Or use him as the cliffhanger at the end of it, do the origin, and bring him in the team full-time for a sequel.

I mentioned it in another thread. Ever since Hal appeared in Green Lantern Rebirth, they have replaced every single green lantern appearance outside of comics to Hal Jordan.
Green Lantern book starring Hal is a top 10 book.
Its obvious that Hal's return has revitalised the franchise.
If Hal is not in the movie, I don't see much of a point watching it anyways.

I do agree that they should debut the characters in JL then spin off into their own movies.

[Juan1193]

I don't understand what is everyone's obsession with Martian Manhunter. He is boring and makes the team over powered. Cyborg is a much better addition to the team.
Cyborg is a Teen Titans character to me so im against him being included in a JL film, he's better suited for a TT movie/show. There's nothing wrong with Martian Manhunter as his powers can be really cool to see on the big screen.

[Tony Stark]

To me they need to stick with the core four of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern, and then get some lesser side characters.

One thing that worked well for Avengers was having Hawkeye and Black Widow instead of Ant Man and Wasp allowed for more screen time and build up of the core heroes.

To me they could have a good personality clash going on here, Superman wanting to be the leader and having trouble getting on the same page, Bruce being distrustful of everyone, Wonder Woman being distrustful of men, and Hal being the wise cracking showboater who won't listen to anyone.

[Jake Cassidy]

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Barry)
Green Lantern (Hal)
Aquaman

[MarvelKnight]

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Barry)
Green Lantern (Hal)
Aquaman

Might as well complete the original line-up and add in Martian Manhunter. I am a fan of classics, so I would go with the classic original line-up. That or

I was a fan of the animated line-up except I'd still stick with Hal Jordan instead of John Stewart.

[The Guard]

I suspect people who think J'onn J'onnz is boring have only really been exposed to him in the JL animated series, where he was generally used as an expository device.

Sad, really. He's a great character, with amazing potential.

[Jake Cassidy]

I forgot to put him in my list.

It should be the 'Big 7'.

[solidsnake86]

I suspect people who think J'onn J'onnz is boring have only really been exposed to him in the JL animated series, where he was generally used as an expository device.

Sad, really. He's a great character, with amazing potential.

No doubt, but it seems to me like DC has moved away from using MM in the justice league. For hints of the roster I don't think you have to look further than the justice league comic at the moment.

It will most likely be the usual 5, give or take aquaman and maybe cyborg. I know he will always be associated with Teen Titans but for one reason or another they've used him instead of Martian manhunter.

It would be strange to go through the trouble of doing this new roster and not use the current characters. Heck even marvel decided to make avengers assemble to closely relate to the movie. Its that corporate synergy that they wanted with DCE.

The only character right now thats a toss up seems like Hal because the movie failed.

[Bruce Malone]

I agree with others that gl will be John Stewart in the Justice League. The GL film will be lucky to be seen as the ang lee hulk to WB at this point.

They are going to try to move away from that film as far as possible.

[Bruce_Begins]

If They want to tie in with Cavill's MOS and Ryan Reynold's GL movie -
http://i48.tinypic.com/2dbkny9.jpg



If they want to keep Justice League as a separate franchise then -

http://i49.tinypic.com/2lllnuo.jpg

[Bruce_Begins]

some Wonder Woman choices -

http://i48.tinypic.com/2mcvt42.jpg

[Robin91939]

My ideal situation would be for:

Green Lantern (2011)
Man Of Steel (2013)
The Flash (2014)
WonderWoman (2014)
Man of Steel 2 (2015)
Justice League (2016)

- Have Green Lantern count.
- Introduce our new Superman in Man of Steel and hope that that is the first BIG film in DC's new era.
- Introduce The Flash and make it a fun crime/action film with Barry Allen.
- WonderWoman would be comparable to Marvel's first Thor film. We can split time on Themyscira and in the world of Man. She would be the fish out of water and the Goddess among men. It could work similarly. Just cast an inspired, charming lead. And if Thor taught us anything -- it doesn't have to be a "somebody" or a star. Just a great actor who fits the role. Then put great supporting stars around that unknown actor (Portman, Hopkins, Russo, Skarsgaard, etc).
- Then come out with Man of Steel 2. End it with a cliff hanger with Superman apparently dead. If Superman is a alive -- there isn't much need for a Justice League to form, you know? He is pretty powerful. But if Man of Steel 2 introduces a threat that is too powerful for Superman, one that even seemingly kills him -- well then... Then we have a reason for these heros to unite.

Man of Steel 2 runs into and sets up Justice League. Justice League introduces us to a new Batman. I'd prefer a more seasoned, older Batman, but I am not partial to another, youngish incarnation. Just make it a little different from the Nolan Batman (which I love, but if they are going to go different, go different). Introduce Aquaman and Martian Manhunter. Since the audience all know who Batman is -- he doesn't need explanation and you can give that time to the other two noobs and Batman can be more mysterious and badass... He'll know things without you knowing how he knows them -- he just does because he's Batman.
Cavil's Superman returns midway through the film completing the team that was formed to aid the world in his absence.

Line-up:

Superman
Not sure about having a team and has to come to grips with his own deficiencies, however small and accept that fact that even Krypton's last son, needs help.

Batman
Thought by the rest of the six to have been a myth all of this time, he earns their respect through his bravery and wisdom. The tactician of the team.

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Happy to have help in his job protecting sector 2814 and planet earth after having to do so much to convince the Guardians of the Galaxy to protect the human race.

WonderWoman
The world of man fascinates her and when it falls into peril and people she has grown to love are in danger she is quick to return to protect it.

Flash (Barry Allen)
The most anxious of all of them to start and join the team.

Aquaman
When the threat that seemingly takes Superman's life infringes on his kingdom, the King of Atlantas comes out swinging.

Martian Manhunter
A captive of whatever alien threat took Superman's life -- he is saved by the Justice League and instrumental in sharing his knowledge of the invader's weaknesses.

-R

[Willi Berg]

I guess it depends on the tone of the JL movie too.

If, judging by the writer Will Beall's work (and if his script is used), and the movie has a crime/detective element/feel, then someone like Martian Manhunter would suit that, since he is Detective John Jones, where he comes to Earth and disguises himself as a human - something like that could be used.

But then in a more "realistic" setting, someone like Aquaman would be hardest to incorporate.

Ideally I would like the original 7 lineup but I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Green Arrow and maybe built up to Aquaman.

[Dark Raven]

I'd like either the Justice League cartoon line up which includes Hawk Girl, or the original classic line up which includes Aqua Man. I'm not sure which is better. I like Hawk Girl, and she will be another female on the team. Aqua Man would provide an iconic feel harking back to the days of the Superfriends cartoon.

As for Martian Manhunter, I'd like him in there, but I suppose if I had to choose between Hawk Girl and MM, I'd choose Hawk Girl.

I think the presence of Wonder Woman, Hawk Girl and Aqua Man give it a mythic feel, as if they come from these ancient or otherworldly civilisations. Martian Manhunter gives it a paranoia and cold war feel, which would be good if they're going for that atmosphere. It really depends on the direction of the movie.

So my line up would be:

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman

And then the ones in dispute would be:

Green Lantern - ie which one? Hal Jordan or John Stewart?
Flash - Barry Allen or Wally West?

Martian Manhunter
Aqua Man
Hawk Girl

[Rockstar]

Green Lantern (2011) will contradict Man of Steel. They can't exist together.


Green Lantern introduces the world to Aliens and Alien threats for the first time (and does a half-assed job with it).


Everything we know about Man of Steel is that it will also be mankind's first encounter with aliens and a superpowered threat. Goyer said it's approached as "what if this happened today in the real world."


The context of "Man of Steel" wouldn't make much sense after something so huge as the Parallax attack on Earth.

[HighFivingMF]

Green Lantern takes place after. Fixed.

[Rockstar]

Not fixed.

It would be confusing to audiences.

It also would conflict with Waller's words to Hammond about their first encounter with an alien lifeform.

[HighFivingMF]

Not fixed.

It would be confusing to audiences.

It also would conflict with Waller's words to Hammond about their first encounter with an alien lifeform.

Thor, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man 2 are all wrapped up in each other, that turned out fine. And you can simply not have any Kryptonians die on Earth, if they don't meet Zod then Abin Sur is still Waller and Checkmate's first encounter with alien life.

[shauner111]

The Flash movie is with Barry Allen apparently so he's the one for Justice League.

John Stewart or Hal Jordan is the question. Recasting is stupid, either bring back Reynolds, he might be able to adapt to a better script with him as a supporting character. The comic relief. Or just go with John Stewart.

[sethypants]

Not fixed.

It would be confusing to audiences.

It also would conflict with Waller's words to Hammond about their first encounter with an alien lifeform.

Its simple then. Recast Ryan Reynolds.
Have someone else say Ryan Gosling take over as Hal.
Explain that MOS is the only one tied to Justice League.
They recasted Hulk 3 times. I don't see people getting "confused"
Problem solved.
Then the next GL movie, go straight into sinestro corp war or blackest night or something else.

[Rockstar]

Thor, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man 2 are all wrapped up in each other, that turned out fine.

Because they were planned that way, by Marvel Studios. They logically fit together like pieces of a greater puzzle.


And you can simply not have any Kryptonians die on Earth, if they don't meet Zod then Abin Sur is still Waller and Checkmate's first encounter with alien life

Haha!

That doesn't solve anything.


Superman and the Kryptonians won't be hidden in Man of Steel. They'll be known to the public.

Heck, there's two massive battles in the open in Kansas and Edwards Air Force Base already confirmed.

There's no way anyone could believe that Abin Sur is the first alien mankind has encountered if Green Lantern comes after Man of Steel.


It completely contradicts.

[Chris B]

I'd probably be inclined to simply limit it to Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and the Flash, with maybe Martian Manhunter if there's room. Once you go beyond 5-6 characters, I think you really risk sacrificing any meaningful character development. Especially since they'll also have to show the formation of the League itself as well as giving some development to whoever the villain is.

I think it'd be better to hold off on including Aquaman right now. Wait until he can get his own solo film before JL2 or even introduce him in JL2 itself since the origin of the team will be out of the way.

[Nathan]

I'd probably be inclined to simply limit it to Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and the Flash, with maybe Martian Manhunter if there's room. Once you go beyond 5-6 characters, I think you really risk sacrificing any meaningful character development. Especially since they'll also have to show the formation of the League itself as well as giving some development to whoever the villain is.

Something the Justice League cartoon did within 60 minutes.

[DarkSovereignty]

for the first movie I want the big five, Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman. however, if they get a sequel, I'd love for them to expand to Justice League Unlimited numbers. just amass an army of superheroes, maybe have it culminate in OMAC to round out a trilogy.

[Smashlilman]

for the first movie I want the big five, Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman. however, if they get a sequel, I'd love for them to expand to Justice League Unlimited numbers. just amass an army of superheroes, maybe have it culminate in OMAC to round out a trilogy.

Then they can casually introduce minor character and have them spin off into other movies.

[cleverusername8]

Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash (Barry Allen/Wally West hybrid), Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Martian Manhunter, and I know I'll get some flak for this, but Aquaman. I feel like if they were able to portray him in a way similar to Thor (the mythological character on the team with a more magical feel) he could work as a part of the movie. They may have to tweak/expand his powers a little bit to prevent the general audience from rejecting him (they'd probably take issue with his ability to talk to fish...).

I just wish that they would have put out intro movies for the lesser known characters (and by lesser known I mean the general audience doesn't know their backstories or really what their powers are). Superman and Batman are recognizable enough but everyone else would need some time for the public to actually care about them if they were to see them in a movie.

[solidsnake86]

Not fixed.

It would be confusing to audiences.

It also would conflict with Waller's words to Hammond about their first encounter with an alien lifeform.

Your putting way to much emphasis on a movie that people didn't turn out to watch. If people watched Green lantern once and didn't see it again until justice league came out do you think they would even remember that. Heck I barely remember the movie.

[HighFivingMF]

People ate up First Class, that contradicted like a billion things in the other movies. If they contradict one line in Green Lantern nobody will be that upset.

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, it's not that big of a deal...If WB really wants to have GL to be part of the DC Universe, a little line is not gonna stop them.

[Rockstar]

If no one supposedly watched Green Lantern, there's no logic in keeping it in continuity. Especially when the people who did see it were turned off by it.

The film built no audience. It brings nothing to JL except making things messy.


From a production standpoint, if Variety is correct that Nolan will be the 'Bruce Timm' of the live action DC films from here on out, there's absolutely no way he'll keep Green Lantern (2011) in continuity.

There's nothing to gain from it.

People ate up First Class, that contradicted like a billion things in the other movies. If they contradict one line in Green Lantern nobody will be that upset.


Difference is, First Class in many ways was a reboot of sorts. Aside from the Wolverine and Mystique easter eggs to the fans, everything was new.

Bryan Singer even said it's supposed to be like Abrams Star Trek. It's not confined to lead into the earlier X-men trilogy.

[HighFivingMF]

Difference is, First Class in many ways was a reboot of sorts. Aside from the Wolverine and Mystique easter eggs to the fans, everything was new.

Bryan Singer even said it's supposed to be like Abrams Star Trek. It's not confined to lead into the earlier X-men trilogy.

And everyone who doesn't bother reading Bryan Singer interviews thinks it's a prequel to the other movies and disregards the inconsistencies because they like the movie.

[Rockstar]

And everyone who doesn't bother reading Bryan Singer interviews thinks it's a prequel to the other movies and disregards the inconsistencies because they like the movie.

Not necessarily.

And it is a much easier sell since it involves no carryovers from the previous trilogy in the main cast. It's a cleaner break.

It isn't the same as tossing Ryan into Justice League.

[Bruce_Begins]

Green Lantern is the first movie in the shared DC Universe.

Everything we know about Man of Steel is that it will also be mankind's first encounter with aliens and a superpowered threat. Goyer said it's approached as "what if this happened today in the real world."


That description is also a valid one for MOS, as They (Zod and others.) are first aliens that are making contact with Earth people and then declaring a war on them.

Remember that Abin Sur was already dead, so that could not be technically called as first contact with Alien, and Parallax did not communicate with anyone else other than Hector Hammond and Hal Jordan, it just attacked and was quickly taken off the Earth by Hal, while people could call it as an alien entity attack, it looked like some force of nature.

[solidsnake86]

Not necessarily.

And it is a much easier sell since it involves no carryovers from the previous trilogy in the main cast. It's a cleaner break.

It isn't the same as tossing Ryan into Justice League.

The difference is, the studios still like Reynolds regardless of what fans say. So if they want him in their they will put him in. The only way to avoid any comparisons is putting in stewart. If you recast Hal your going to have the same problem anyways of people watching GL and picking out a throwaway line that only you seem to care about.

[Rockstar]

The difference is, the studios still like Reynolds regardless of what fans say. So if they want him in their they will put him in. The only way to avoid any comparisons is putting in stewart. If you recast Hal your going to have the same problem anyways of people watching GL and picking out a throwaway line that only you seem to care about.

Haha.

What makes you think Warner Bros likes Reynolds at this point?

It's no surprise how he's distancing himself from GL now: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/08/03/ryan-reynolds-deadpool-green-lantern/

"Speaking to where we might find Reynolds' Green Lantern in future film installments, he didn't have quite as much to say as he did back around the film's release (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/06/10/green-lantern-2-ryan-reynolds-blake-lively/). "


His casting bascially backfired for them. Everything backfired with GL.

[Rockstar]

That description is also a valid one for MOS, as They (Zod and others.) are first aliens that are making contact with Earth people and then declaring a war on them..

We don't necessarily know that yet, but knowing the creative team behind MoS... they are not going to assume that humanity has previously encountered any Alien life.

Especially if they are using the perspective of this happening in the real world.

They will make it as logical, beliveable and realistic as possible.



Parallax did not communicate with anyone else other than Hector Hammond and Hal Jordan, it just attacked and was quickly taken off the Earth by Hal, while people could call it as an alien entity attack, it looked like some force of nature


A force of nature with a giant head that could vapourize people?....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdtRAxwUQD4

[Changeling]

PLEASE no connection to the GL movie. Please. That would be such a mistake. Ryan Reynolds really should not return, I don't think he's horrible, but he blew his chance horribly. The only way I'd even want to see any Green Lantern in a Justice League movie is if they went with John Stewart. I don't particularly want to see Hal again, and including Stewart just makes SO much sense. It adds diversity. And to the people that say Stewart is bland, the JL animated series took aspects of all different GLs and put that into Stewarts character. If we have a good enough writer, this new Green Lantern could revive the Green Lantern in the publics eyes.

Originally I hated the idea of Will Smith playing GL, but aftger thinking about it for a while, he would do a kickass job and people obviously love him. Too expensive, but he could revive GL.

Anthony Mackie and Idris Elba also could do a great job.

[shauner111]

Will probably won't do it after Hancock. Aren't they planning a sequel to that too? I suggested Elba and it seemed like it got a negative response. I have no idea why. Sure he's in Thor but it's not like he's recognizable in that. The man needs a big starring film. He deserves it, he can play John Stewart and be a mix of all the GL's of the comics.

Isn't Anthony Mackie in Gangster Squad? I just have this feeling that the director of that will be on the shortlist for Batman, GL and Flash. I think he'll get one of them considering his writer on GS is doing JLA now. Mackie could work for John Stewart.

Anyways, they need to abandon last years Green Lantern and focus on bringing in Jogn Stewart. I dont care if most of you want Hal Jordan. I dont want it personally. Reynolds can be the comic relief but it screws them over cuz theyll want to have another solo flick eventually, they will NOT put all their cards on Ryan friggin Reynolds again. There's no way. Recast my ASS! You might risk running into the same problems

[Llama_Shepherd]

Why do people think Green Lantern would suddenly be succesful if he's a black guy over a new white guy?

John's more often than not a boring, depressing character. I'd rather they use Alan Scott before John.

[Dark Raven]

PLEASE no connection to the GL movie. Please. That would be such a mistake. Ryan Reynolds really should not return, I don't think he's horrible, but he blew his chance horribly. The only way I'd even want to see any Green Lantern in a Justice League movie is if they went with John Stewart. I don't particularly want to see Hal again, and including Stewart just makes SO much sense. It adds diversity. And to the people that say Stewart is bland, the JL animated series took aspects of all different GLs and put that into Stewarts character. If we have a good enough writer, this new Green Lantern could revive the Green Lantern in the publics eyes.

Originally I hated the idea of Will Smith playing GL, but aftger thinking about it for a while, he would do a kickass job and people obviously love him. Too expensive, but he could revive GL.

Anthony Mackie and Idris Elba also could do a great job.

And if he were in Justice League, you can be sure he'd get top billing, but that isn't right for Green Lantern to get that above Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Green Lantern as the biggest star of the cast is just wrong. He needs someone more low profile than Smith or even any white actor for Hal.

[Bruce_Begins]

Agreed, no big name stars as JL members, that is why I don't want Ryan Gosling as Flash.

[Dark Raven]

Agreed, no big name stars as JL members, that is why I don't want Ryan Gosling as Flash.

I don't mind a big name for Batman, as that would be the only appropriate member to have a big star attached. Also, I don't think Ryan Gosling is quite as big a star as Will Smith. Gosling doesn't have a bunch of blockbusters under his belt or several hit records in his discography. Not that I want him for Flash, but just saying that he's not quite a superstar like Smith, who would undoubtedly get top billing if he were in JL as Green Lantern.

[Nathan]

Just no to Will Smith as Green Lantern.

[BigThor]

I say Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, and Aquaman (or Martian Manhunter).

[Nathan]

There's no reason why the Movie couldn't have the big 7. The Justice League cartoon managed to introduce 7 characters, giving us a reason for their formation, a little backstory on the threat that was endangering earth and wrapped it all up in 60 minutes. Why wouldn't a Movie, that will at least last 2 hours, be able to accomplish the same?

[Dark Raven]

There's no reason why the Movie couldn't have the big 7. The Justice League cartoon managed to introduce 7 characters, giving us a reason for their formation, a little backstory on the threat that was endangering earth and wrapped it all up in 60 minutes. Why wouldn't a Movie, that will at least last 2 hours, be able to accomplish the same?

Of course, Superman and Batman were already introduced in their own cartoons. But yes, they could expand upon the JL cartoon pilot episode and use that as the template for the movie. Not sure if I'm too keen on the alien threat though as the basis for their formation.

[shauner111]

PLease no Will Smith. Love the guy but not for GL.

I really don't think we need to see Martian Manhunter just yet. I dont even want Aquaman right away quite honestly. I wont complain if it happens, as long as they make him on par with the others, but he could be used as great sequel bait.


Why do people think Green Lantern would suddenly be succesful if he's a black guy over a new white guy?

John's more often than not a boring, depressing character. I'd rather they use Alan Scott before John.

Nobody thinks he can "suddenly" be more successful. It's just that anything but Hal Jordan (whom whether u get Reynolds or another actor they're going to want that look and humor attached) is going to be better received. John Stewart adds up. He was the plan originally. They went with a different plan and it backfired. Now they should go back to that original JLA black Green Lantern plan. It's a different character, it's an evolution, you dont HAVE to make him so serious all the time. The man can have a bit of humor but just don't make it his calling card.

One thing i dont want is for them to model everything after the Avengers lineup. Hal Jordan as the Tony Stark, Aquaman as the Thor of the group, WW as the Black Widow, Superman as the Captain America, Martian Manhunter in the smaller Nick Fury or Hawkeye role, etc.

You need to have diversity but you dont NEED to have a complete Stark like character. It oozes out of Reynolds, and i just dont want it near JLA.

[Gamingboy]

I'd say go with the super seven, although maybe to up the stakes have Hal get knocked out of commission, at which point John Stewart takes over for him for the rest of the movie.

[Rockstar]

Why do people think Green Lantern would suddenly be succesful if he's a black guy over a new white guy?

John's more often than not a boring, depressing character. I'd rather they use Alan Scott before John.

Because it's an extreme departure from the Ryan Reynolds version.

I'm a fan of Hal Jordan first and in the perfect world, I'd want a rebooted Hal in this movie.


But I think it's just easier for Warners to appeal to the diversity mandate and reinvent Green Lantern drastically, cutting all ties to the RR film, by going with John Stewart.


Someone else mentioned earlier that they could bring in another Black character instead, like Cyborg. It's certainly possible... but the fans wouldn't be too happy.

[Dark Raven]

Because it's an extreme departure from the Ryan Reynolds version.

I'm a fan of Hal Jordan first and in the perfect world, I'd want a rebooted Hal in this movie.


But I think it's just easier for Warners to appeal to the diversity mandate and reinvent Green Lantern drastically, cutting all ties to the RR film, by going with John Stewart.


Someone else mentioned earlier that they could bring in another Black character instead, like Cyborg. It's certainly possible... but the fans wouldn't be too happy.

Cyborg is boring. He's like a 3rd or 4th tier character if even that, who would seem like something they'd have for a TV Justice League (like in Smallville or that other Justice League pilot) because they can't use the bigger characters. There are plenty more characters who could be in his place first before having to resort to the likes of him.

[Bruce_Begins]

I am now somewhat alright with Ryan Gosling as Flash, earlier I was not convinced about him.

Here is one great Line up.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2e3svhu.jpg

[tekken]

do people really get confused when they recast characters? i mean when i was growing up, the transition from batman returns to batman forever wasn't "confusing" - to me, it was just a different movie by a different director.

didn't zack snyder say he wanted superman to be the only hero in his movie (like nolan's batman) anyway? i'd rather not have him shoe-horned in the JL movie just for continuity's sake - what if it doesn't fit with snyder's vision of the character?

while marvel made a line of movies all with the same tone, in the same universe, i don't see why DC couldn't just use different versions of the same character in different movies. if they can develop the characters in watchmen without having a solo rorschach movie, then they can do it with justice league. hate on that movie all you want, but to me, it shows that you can have multiple costumed heroes in one movie without a set-up.

besides, the animated JLA movies have been awesome, and they're around 77 min long - they can put in way more character development in 2+ hours. also, they don't NEED solo movies to introduce those characters anyway. most of the GA knows them from either superfriends of JLU.

i say treat this JLA movie with the mindset that it's completely on its own, independent of everything else that has come out.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Nobody thinks he can "suddenly" be more successful. It's just that anything but Hal Jordan (whom whether u get Reynolds or another actor they're going to want that look and humor attached) is going to be better received.

But there is no basis for this is what I'm getting at. Especially with John, they guy is a moper and the one from the DCAU was based quite heavily on Hal Jordan, Pre-Infinite Crisis.

John Stewart adds up. He was the plan originally. They went with a different plan and it backfired. Now they should go back to that original JLA black Green Lantern plan. It's a different character, it's an evolution, you dont HAVE to make him so serious all the time. The man can have a bit of humor but just don't make it his calling card.

So it is literally just the secret identity that bothers you, since the Hal Jordan in Green Lantern was a pale imitation of the real character and more like Guy Gardner.

One thing i dont want is for them to model everything after the Avengers lineup. Hal Jordan as the Tony Stark, Aquaman as the Thor of the group, WW as the Black Widow, Superman as the Captain America, Martian Manhunter in the smaller Nick Fury or Hawkeye role, etc.

You need to have diversity but you dont NEED to have a complete Stark like character. It oozes out of Reynolds, and i just dont want it near JLA.

Yeah, Reynolds oozes it, so just reboot the character so he's actually like Jordan and not like Bart Allen, Guy Gardner or Frank Miller's deranged Plastic Man. With John, if you use him and use him accurately, you've got a movie filled with serious characters, except for maybe Barry.

[The Guard]

Cyborg as a founding member of the JLA is one of the stupider things about the New 52. By the time the JLA movie comes out, if they use him, they're going to look like they're ripping off ROBOCOP: REBOOTED or something.

J'onn J'onnz can basically be the diverse character for every race. He's a freaking alien. He should be the one that any "different" themes revolve around. Have him voiced by a black actor and his alter ego be black if you're concerned about racial diversity, as that seems to be the norm lately.

John Stewart as Green Lantern was the plan originally because he was the version of the fairly obscure character that most non-fans knew of, based on the four seasons of JL: Animated.

Now, despite the failure of GREEN LANTERN at the box office, thanks to it, multiple DTV films and a new animated series focused on him and not just as a cog in the JLA, that version is Hal. There's no reason to use Stewart over Hal.

I really have no idea why people would think Hal was more like Gardner than Jordan.

And people seem to have missed the point that as GREEN LANTERN wore on, Reynolds' Jordan got more and more like the more mature, serious, focused Jordan we've come to love. He's not going to be doing nothing but making wisecracks in a Justice League movie. It's not like WB doesn't recognize what went wrong with the GL movie. I'm sure any writer who uses Green Lantern in Justice League is going to try to make him either a bit more serious as a character, or, after THE AVENGERS, funnier in a genuine way.

[Gamingboy]

Agreed totally on Cyborg. If I have one big beef with the New 52, it's how they screwed up the charm of having so much history (this was part of the idea, I know, because the charm also is the learning curve). But if I have two big beefs, it's how messed up they made the JLA and Titans. I like Cyborg, I just don't like him as being in the JLA instead of J'onn. And I DEFINITELY don't like not having J'onn be a member of the JLA at all.

Remember, J'onn is a shapeshifting alien, he can be played by a actor of any race and his John Jones persona can be of any race.

[Changeling]

I think Aquaman's inclusion is imperative. I really want Aquaman to have a bunch of badass moments because he so easily could with the right writers. Aquaman is a great character, this movie is IMO his only chance right now to escape the mockery that surrounds his character. I like the idea of
Nikolaj Coster- Waldau, Joel Edgerton, and Leonardo Di Caprio (who is supposed to be producing the solo Aquaman movie)

[Superhero 101]

I think that the Movie could be based off the Secret Origins story from the JL show with the Alien invasion/ infiltration and
My Line up would consist of
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman -
Flash- i'd like the Barry Allen version but i guess they can use Wally for the comic relief
Green Lantern - i would prefer Hal over Jon but i wouldn't mind if they went with Jon
Captain Marvel- i would like a superman vs captain marvel fight
Martain Manhunter *he can be like the Nick Fury for the Justice League

[Changeling]

Big no to Captain Marvel being introduced in a JL movie. He deserves his own film and his tone wouldnt fit the whole rumored dark and mature JL film.

[The Guard]

Agreed. Ditto The Hawks.

[Changeling]

Yes seriously, Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash, Martian Manhunter for the first but thats a max.
No to either of the Hawks, the Question, Zatanna etc; keep it to the big 7.
Plastic Man I could see being cool but maybe wait until a sequel.

I say no to Green Arrow because of Hawkeye, and no to Black Canary because I don't want a Black Canary without GA.

[Gamingboy]

One thing to keep in mind is that Green Arrow will have a TV series that, if it's good in the ratings, will be several seasons in if there is a JL movie. Whether this would make it more likely or less likely that Ollie would be in a JL movie is up for debate.



Also, I think we should stop worrying about having characters in or not in based on whether they match up with people in the Avengers. Remember, this JL movie is still at least three years away, if it is made at all. By then, the Avengers hype will have died down a bit, and the fact is that you could have 4/7ths of the team be people who stupid moviegoers would think are "Avenger rip-offs" but it wouldn't matter so along as the other three are Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

[Changeling]

One thing to keep in mind is that Green Arrow will have a TV series that, if it's good in the ratings, will be several seasons in if there is a JL movie. Whether this would make it more likely or less likely that Ollie would be in a JL movie is up for debate.



Also, I think we should stop worrying about having characters in or not in based on whether they match up with people in the Avengers. Remember, this JL movie is still at least three years away, if it is made at all. By then, the Avengers hype will have died down a bit, and the fact is that you could have 4/7ths of the team be people who stupid moviegoers would think are "Avenger rip-offs" but it wouldn't matter so along as the other three are Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

Except there WILL be an Avengers sequel in about 3 YEARS... So the argument about the hype having died down means nothing. Wtf are you talking about? Green Arrow and Hawkeye have the exact same powers. Theyre both really good with a bow. Avengers beat DC to the punch and now DC would seem like a ripoff. You seriously don't realize that? Okay dude..It's obvious. Don't include GA in JL.

[Gamingboy]

Except there WILL be an Avengers sequel in about 3 YEARS... So the argument about the hype having died down means nothing. Wtf are you talking about? Green Arrow and Hawkeye have the exact same powers. Theyre both really good with a bow. Avengers beat DC to the punch and now DC would seem like a ripoff. You seriously don't realize that? Okay dude..It's obvious. Don't include GA in JL.

Hey, I'm not saying GA should be in Justice League, merely that they shouldn't JUST say "Oh, let's not do him because of Hawkeye." They should decide as to use him or not based on how well he'd work. If he's used well enough, people won't care.

Besides, ultimately, they both are rip-offs of guys like Robin Hood and William Tell. The heroic archer is an archtype. When I left one of the times I saw Avengers, I heard two people say that it was kinda stupid that a "glorified Robin Hood" would be on the same team as Thor and the Hulk.

For what it's worth, I don't think Ollie should be in it, at least not as a main member (maybe a cameo or something). This is not because I dislike the character (I don't), but rather because I think a JL movie should be about the big 7.

[sethypants]

Agreed, no big name stars as JL members, that is why I don't want Ryan Gosling as Flash.

Why not? Big names worked for Avengers

[Kal-El Fan]

Given the advent of DCE and WB's (as well as all movie studios') desire to save money by utilizing/recycling old ideas, I would expect the roster to match the New 52 Justice League line up and for the film to use the JL Mortal designs WETA created. I would expect the story to use aspects of the JLM script, merged with the New 52 origin.

[TheWatcher]

Hal was the original Justice Leagues Green Lantern. Therefore, he should be the Lantern in the movie.

[Spider-Kurt!]

Given the advent of DCE and WB's (as well as all movie studios') desire to save money by utilizing/recycling old ideas, I would expect the roster to match the New 52 Justice League line up and for the film to use the JL Mortal designs WETA created. I would expect the story to use aspects of the JLM script, merged with the New 52 origin.This seems likely. Batman,Superman,Wonder Woman,Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and the Flash (Barry Allen) are the most likely definates.

Personally,I'd save Aquaman and/or the Martian Manhunter for the sequel being that it would give them more room for character development due to the possibility that Wonder Woman and the Flash could make their on screen debuts in the first JLA movie .

I 'm on board with those who don't care for the New52 using Cyborg as a founding member but at least he's character who's been around for 30 years.I wouldn't be mad if he left the team in order to start training younger heroes and create the Teen Titans simular to the notion of Hawkeye and Black Widow leading a West Coast Avengers team.

[shauner111]

You know, out of the main 6 in the lineup..why don't they just do the movie with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash first?

GL is certainly down the tubes at the moment, they probably won't have any plans for a sequel for a long while. They can show John Stewart getting the ring from Hal Jordan via flashbacks, in a small portion of JLA. It would require a cameo appearance from Ryan Reynolds, but it would be cool i guess for fans and enough where ur not committing to Hal Jordan/Ryan Reynolds for the entire thing, or confusing the audience too much. That way u get right into it with Stewart without doing a whole origin sequel on this "new character" or a straight-up reboot.

An Aquaman flick could be done immediately post JLA..the origin story. Bring him into the sequel. They should hold off on a individual Green Lantern for as long as they can. If they were to do my idea, we'd be getting Stewart as a full-time member in the sequel team-up, finding Aquaman and recruiting him in the team as well.

By the end of the 2nd movie you have two new members. Then if the public demands it you bring the fans its own movie for the new Green Lantern. A good 10 years will have gone by since last years disaster and we'll be ready for it.

These WW and Flash scripts have been in the works for quite sometime now. More than the others. So focus on them plus Bats/Supes and u have a very different monster compared to Avengers. A dark and mature first film, like they've described. Build on it, take the time to convince the fans that Green Lantern & Aquaman can also be just as cool and relevant and mature as the "Big 4". Make people WANT to see a sequel because of the new members rather than getting an exact lineup with just another new villain. That kind of cliffhanger or post-credit sequence has been done to death at this point. They've done that with the Joker, with Thanos, they'll probably do it with AVengers II, with Amazing Spider-Man. Im sure that's how they'll hint at Venom/Goblin. Lex Luthor. The rebooted Batman and his rogues gallery perhaps. Change it up with this.

Make it a trilogy. So for the third you begin the movie with the classic 6. They'll all be a part of the second but this time right from the beginning. Martian Manhunter could be used as a go-between neutral type character at first. In talks with the League from Earth and whoever the threat is from whatever planet. By the final act he helps the League and that's it. Never really becomes a League member. But is a main part of that story.

That way u have a concise trilogy with all the 7 original/key members. Nobody complains. And it is done in a way where it's not a damn repeat over & over. Where the same lineup is in every movie defeating a new villain every single time. That's predictable. You can keep a villain or two leading into another film. No need for countless villains. Whether it's Darkseid or Doomsday or whoever as the villain, make him last, and get stronger. An introduction of a new superhero for each of em is where it's at. GL in the first, Aquaman in the second, Martian in the third.

If they want to use other characters that i havent mentioned, make short appearances for them.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Because there's no guarantee the first will succeed, they had that mentality with Green Lantern, leave all the best stuff for later. If they're not going to do the first properly, they shouldn't bother doing it.

[combocaz]

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash (Wally West) or (Barry Allen)
Green Lantern (John Stewart) or (Hal Jordan)

You need someone with humour in the team so i would go with wally if john stewart is GL or barry if Hal is GL.

Ill keep it at 5, should be sufficient. Other members can be added to sequels if the first is a success.

[TheWatcher]

I like the trilogy idea.
First movie- Superman,Batman,WW,Hal,Barry,MM,Aquaman
2nd movie- Superman, Batman, WW, John, Wally, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, MM
3rd movie-Superman, Batman, WW, Hal, John, Barry, Wally, MM, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Hawkgirl, Hawkman (in a Justice type movie)

[HighFivingMF]

@elmayimbe on Twitter told me that Hal is the Green Lantern in the treatment he has.

[shauner111]

@elmayimbe on Twitter told me that Hal is the Green Lantern in the treatment he has.

For real?

[HighFivingMF]

For real?

Yup.

[Nathan]

After shoving Hal into everything GL related, I think they should stick with him for a Justice League Movie. He wasn't my favorite GL, because I wasn't too into DC comics and my first exposure to the Green Lanterns was Kyle Rayner from the JLA comics. And the Justice League cartoon introduced me to John Stewart, who I thought was great. And from what little I've read and seen of Hal, he didn't strike me as really special or anything.

But after the DTVs, the Movie, the Animated series, the comics I started to read, I'm really liking him too. So I'd really like the first human GL from the comics, to be part of the Justice League Movie.

[Atom Ant]

what? no love for the Atom?
I'm telling you he would make for a great team member.

[shauner111]

Another idea. Batman/Superman/Flash/Wonder Woman/Green Lantern (Hal)/Aquaman. Reynolds returns as Hal. It's fine because this is the team-up they need his star power, it's an easy tie-in. They have a different writer, director, new suit, different level of effects goin on. He'll be a supporting actor not lead which is a good thing.

SO the end of the movie, the dramatic scene is a death. Hal Jordan dies (doesnt HAVE to but this is just an idea for a dramatic death that definately beats Agent Coulson in Avengers which was overblown in my opinion). John Stewart is introduced in the movie in a small manner. Hal dies and gives the ring to John to continue the mission.

Post-JLA...they do their Green Lantern sequel. It's a sequel not a reboot, but you can call it a reinvention of sorts. It saves WB the panic of having to do one more GL solo flick with Ryan when they really dont want to. That solo idea with him didn't work the first time, it might be best to bring him in Justice League but NOT another film as a lead. So they have their John Stewart (Anthony Mackie *cough*) in his own movie. The first part goes back to his origins of what made him the man he was, a montage is then shown from Justice League with him getting the ring, tying it together. The last half of the movie shows Stewart off on his own, as the new Green Lantern dealing with whatever threat comes his way.

Sequel for JLA happens..with John Stewart as a member of the team along with the other 5.

Just an idea, dont shoot me!

[solidsnake86]

After shoving Hal into everything GL related, I think they should stick with him for a Justice League Movie. He wasn't my favorite GL, because I wasn't too into DC comics and my first exposure to the Green Lanterns was Kyle Rayner from the JLA comics. And the Justice League cartoon introduced me to John Stewart, who I thought was great. And from what little I've read and seen of Hal, he didn't strike me as really special or anything.

But after the DTVs, the Movie, the Animated series, the comics I started to read, I'm really liking him too. So I'd really like the first human GL from the
comics, to be part of the Justice League Movie.


This was the whole purpose of forming DC entertainment, it wasnt to get more movies out. It was to have a more cohesive line across tv, comics, movies. That way, when you watch the green lantern tv show, its the same character as in the comics, and in the movie.

Its why they put barry allen back as the flash.

Your right, I can't see them deviating from that after the time theyve spent putting hal in everything. Regardless if the movie bombed. As for Reynolds, I can see him getting the role back if he wants it. I think he works well in ensemble pieces.

[shauner111]

Yeah my opinion is slowly changing now, im on board with them keeping Reynolds. I still like the idea of John Stewart as well as not re-casting Hal Jordan. But it is a much smoother transition keeping Ryan. It doesn't mean we'll never get Stewart, they can always do that version next decade sometime. Save it. I'm not sure about more solo movies with the guy but ensemble pieces? Look at that horrible movie X-Men Origins: Wolverine, at least he was enjoyable in that one.

[SpiderJew]

I really think that it is going to be quite a while after the end of the Nolan trilogy that the public will be ready to accept a different take, and a different actor for batman. I am NOT willing to wait that long for a JL movie. Superman (Cavill), WW, flash, and GL have to be in it. They can do what they did with TIH to GL. Let Reynolds keep the part but change some things (SUIT) so it is not ridiculous.

I think green arrow (or just arrow) should take batman's place for the time being. He was created similar to batman and can fill a similar role. The audience has a batman like character without having to see a rebooted batman. The new show should bring more popularity back to green arrow, and I don't think the public will be confused by a different movie version. Smallville was on when SR came out. Not having batman wil also not have him competing with superman for the most attention or screen time. Eventually, Bruce Wayne and batman can be introduced to this universe through a solo film or JL 2. By this time the public will hopefully will be ready for a new batman.

Putting in characters like cyborg, aquaman, or Martian man hunter is just unnessecary (I had to have spelled that wrong) because they will always seem so minor compared to superman. WW, GL, and the flash can be a strong presence, and not seem like sidekicks, where aquaman and MM always will to the GA.

My line up
Superman (Cavill)
(Green) Arrow
Green Lantern (Hal, Ryan Reynolds)
Wonder Woman
The Flash
...Eventually Batman, when enough time has passed since TDKR (in their "phase 2")

[shauner111]

meh dont like it. Batman needs to be in this, or it wont work at all. Audiences will be ready for a new Batman when it gets rebooted. It is not a "if" at this point, it's going to be happen, and the latest will be by 2016. 4 years after TDKR ends its story, that's enough time.

Keep Green Arrow away from this. As long as you have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern (dont care what version) im a happy fan. Aquaman is a bonus to me if included, as long as they do him really well and dont cheese it up. Martian Manhunter i will always be 50/50 about. Dont know if they should have him in a sequel, a smaller role, IN the movie with the rest of em or what. But ill let them figure that out.

[Willi Berg]

what? no love for the Atom?
I'm telling you he would make for a great team member.

I'm an Atom fan. If there is a great plot where he fits in naturally then I'd be all for it. I liked in the JL animated series when he was heavily featured in the "Dark Heart" episode.

[FVD]

No Hal Jordan Green Lantern = No Barry Allen Flash!!!! :nono:

And Aquaman needs to be in the first film too not to mention Jonn. Absolutely NO Cyborg!!!!

[MarvelKnight]

They should use the original JLA. All of them.

[shauner111]

No Hal Jordan Green Lantern = No Barry Allen Flash!!!! :nono:

And Aquaman needs to be in the first film too not to mention Jonn. Absolutely NO Cyborg!!!!

Why wouldn't they be able to have John Stewart AND Barry Allen? dont get that part.

They can do what they want pretty much.

[FVD]

Hal and Barry share somewhat of a connection. Flash may as well be Wally West if John Stewart gets chosen instead. I think having John in there is going to confuse much of the general consensus. :p

[GreenKToo]

Without even looking at the other posts about it, this is who I would want.
Superman
Batman
Flash
WW
GL
MM
Dr Fate

[shauner111]

Hal and Barry share somewhat of a connection. Flash may as well be Wally West if John Stewart gets chosen instead. I think having John in there is going to confuse much of the general consensus. :p

Yeah i agree with you now, because we know Barry Allen and Hal Jordan are the ones they're going for. And it makes sense.

The original is probably the best way to go at this point. Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman/Green Lantern/Flash/Aquaman/Martian Manhunter. Something Avengers didn't do, is give the audience the original lineup..no replacements.

I think what seperates JLA from Avengers though, is the best of DC are all on the same team in my opinion. With Avengers you only get a portion of Marvels greatest characters. Do you have Spider-Man? Wolverine? Daredevil? Nope. They can shoe-in Hawkeye & Black Widow or even Antman/Wasp all they want but they still don't have the essential characters there to represent the best from Marvel comics.

This isn't to bash them but a strong lineup of Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Wolverine, Thor and Black Panther would have been far more epic. And something that would rival Justice Leagues original lineup. But it's a studio issue, i know.

[Changeling]

Without even looking at the other posts about it, this is who I would want.
Superman
Batman
Flash
WW
GL
MM
Dr Fate

Doing both Martian Manhunter AND Doctor Fate I think would require a lot of time for their origins, I think a lot of people would wonder who the **** both of them were if their origins weren't shown in the film

[sethypants]

@elmayimbe on Twitter told me that Hal is the Green Lantern in the treatment he has.

Rejoice. Im so glad hal is getting the treatment he deserves. Let Cyborg and Martian Manhunter hit the minority quota. Hal is way too important to be sideline by the most boring GL ever.

[HighFivingMF]

Doing both Martian Manhunter AND Doctor Fate I think would require a lot of time for their origins, I think a lot of people would wonder who the **** both of them were if their origins weren't shown in the film

Martian Manhunter is a martian that lives on Earth. It's not that complicated.

[sethypants]

I think basically everyone is fair game outside of
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash - Barry
GL - Hal

I would really hope Cyborg and Aquaman joins the team. But I can make do with MM and Aquaman, or even Canary and Arrow.

[shauner111]

Cyborg over Martian Manhunter?

[Llama_Shepherd]

What if they did it in the style of JL: Doom in that the League is comprised of the big 7, but Cyborg works as a sort of apprentice to the League?

[sethypants]

What if they did it in the style of JL: Doom in that the League is comprised of the big 7, but Cyborg works as a sort of apprentice to the League?

As long as Aquaman is in the movie im cool. But yeah there'll be lotsa problems with the inclusion of MM. Like I said in the other thread and itll suck if they would resort to using fire to weaken mm cos thats what they always do.

[MarvelKnight]

That's because that's his weakness..That's like saying "I hope they don't use Kryptonite to weaken superman"

[MarvelKnight]

I think the powers at be -if they include MM- can come up with a creative way to portray fire being a weakness that isn't silly like a little match or a liter bringing j'onn to his knees.

[shauner111]

What if they did it in the style of JL: Doom in that the League is comprised of the big 7, but Cyborg works as a sort of apprentice to the League?

That's not a bad idea at all.

[MarvelKnight]

What if they did it in the style of JL: Doom in that the League is comprised of the big 7, but Cyborg works as a sort of apprentice to the League?

:up: I wouldn't mind that either.

[shauner111]

Who says you have to have 1 or the other. Give us both in some capacity.

[MarvelKnight]

Who says you have to have 1 or the other. Give us both in some capacity.

I just think the original line-up is a way to differentiate themselves from Marvel. By all means have cyborg on the side, maybe have him do command central (if they would even introduce watchtower in the first movie). I just don't want them to completely leave off an original member for -forgive my cyborg ignorance- a 2nd tier shlub.

[shauner111]

Yeah ya i agree. Original lineup for sure. Over Cyborg anyday. And ive said it in the past that it's a way to seperate from Marvel, by giving fans the original lineup and the best of the best of DC, all in one team. Avengers doesnt have that. They settle with what they can get because of messed up contracts with different studios etc. They have too many things going on at once all the time. DC are a little more patient and that's a good thing in my opinion.

But i dont see why Martian Manhunter will be anything original come time for a JLA flick. We've seen the alien character in countless films. The detective aspect, we have Batman. The other worldly being who comes to Earth, we have Superman. The character that assembles each member, look to Nick Fury. You got Marvel movies lined up that hold similarities now. And then you have the comic book characters that mess around with telepathy & shape-shifting. All you have to do is watch the current series of X-Men movies to see a couple of their heroes screwing around with those abilities.

So i have a mixed reaction about him. Of course when you put all of that in a blender and one character comes out of it with all of these elements, it could be a great thing to see on screen. So it all depends

[MarvelKnight]

I would think a writer/screenplay guy would relish the chance to bring a "difficult" character to the page/screen. If the character is written well and subsequently performed and directed well, then most likely it will come off well on screen, original or not.

Also, as far as originality, what is there to be original about? all these characters have set pasts and certain events that lead them to being who and what they are. All WB would be doing would be bringing that to the screen. So as far as originality, there is nothing to be original about, they are adapting from pre-existing source material(I would hope)

If people don't want another 'alien' on the team..fine, but I said this before(clearly hypothetical) if some normal shmuck didn't know superman was an alien, he would look like a crazy powerful superhuman allergic to a rock..at least mm looks alien. and for that matter, if the 'alien' designation is taken up by superman...i guess we can't have green arrow ever as the obligatory 'human on a superpowered team' since batman essentially takes that role too as well as being detective and what not; Why couldn't you have j'onn in detective role in some other city anyway? He doesn't have to be in gotham, and besides, once he is revealed as a martian will we really be seeing his detective alter-ego much? Highly unlikely. it doesn't make any sense to exclude a member of the team because the 'role' on the team is taken up by someone else.

[shauner111]

I would think a writer/screenplay guy would relish the chance to bring a "difficult" character to the page/screen. If the character is written well and subsequently performed and directed well, then most likely it will come off well on screen, original or not.

Also, as far as originality, what is there to be original about? all these characters have set pasts and certain events that lead them to being who and what they are. All WB would be doing would be bringing that to the screen. So as far as originality, there is nothing to be original about, they are adapting from pre-existing source material(I would hope)

If people don't want another 'alien' on the team..fine, but I said this before(clearly hypothetical) if some normal shmuck didn't know superman was an alien, he would look like a crazy powerful superhuman allergic to a rock..at least mm looks alien. and for that matter, if the 'alien' designation is taken up by superman...i guess we can't have green arrow ever as the obligatory 'human on a superpowered team' since batman essentially takes that role too as well as being detective and what not; Why couldn't you have j'onn in detective role in some other city anyway? He doesn't have to be in gotham, and besides, once he is revealed as a martian will we really be seeing his detective alter-ego much? Highly unlikely. it doesn't make any sense to exclude a member of the team because the 'role' on the team is taken up by someone else.

I don't like or want Green Arrow in this at all so ya, especially since Avengers has Hawkeye (and i prefer Arrow over him). But yes..we already have a Green Lantern, and Batman in my opinion SHOULD be the only human on this superpowered team.
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You can still do J'onn as a detective and everything else he's about, and make it cool. All of those things in one make a pretty powerful character. But im just saying when u isolate each of his powers it feels like it's been done before. Either by other members of his own team, or just generally speaking in other movies that surround this project.

I can see the detective bit working well in a comedic scene, to Batman like he's just some amateur detective compared to him. Bats being frustrated with MM could be quite funny. And a cool way to introduce the Martian while making everyone not know what his agenda is, especially if one of the leaders like Batman doesn't trust him yet.

Im sure WB and Beill wont care what Marvels doing and still have him, original or not, but then again sometimes theyre influenced by all of that crap. Look at this whole JLA idea in the first place, its heavily influenced by Avengers' success.

Im just a sucker for originality and i guess i just want this group of superheroes to be the polar opposite of Marvels and Avengers. Simply because i think most of the "big" characters from Marvel are just not original. They like ripping off DC a whole lot and my fanboyism wants Justice League to come off in a more superior fashion.

[sethypants]

That's because that's his weakness..That's like saying "I hope they don't use Kryptonite to weaken superman"

Thats the problems there are too many gimmicks with these characters. Its one reason why yellow was retconned out for GL. Kryptonite was greatly reduced and is made very rare in the world. Furthermore dc has been moving away from using k and depower supes. mm otoh have not been depowered. so if he is in the show he would likely be crazy powerful and unless theres a very good script to use fire and affect mm in a new way, i find it tough to have him on the team.

[sethypants]

One way I thought that we could establish MM is to have him appear 90% of the time as detective and sorta try to form the team tgt by manipulating events to have them meet each other and then finally appear in his alien form against the big bad.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Thats the problems there are too many gimmicks with these characters. Its one reason why yellow was retconned out for GL. Kryptonite was greatly reduced and is made very rare in the world. Furthermore dc has been moving away from using k and depower supes. mm otoh have not been depowered. so if he is in the show he would likely be crazy powerful and unless theres a very good script to use fire and affect mm in a new way, i find it tough to have him on the team.

DC kept all characters weaknesses but tried to tone them down.

The yellow impurity still exists within GL mythos and has been highlighted since Rebirth and the dawn of the new Parallax. Krytponite has been made rarer with few varietals existing. With J'onn fire itself is not a weakness, it is a psychological monster that lives within his mind.

Anyway, Martian Manhunter, aside from superstrength has no powers shared with either WW, Supes, Aquaman have. He has intangibility, telepathy, a concussive blast (sometimes) shapeshifting, and a touch that burns (Smallville). All of those could be highlighted over his super strength.

[MarvelKnight]

I don't like or want Green Arrow in this at all so ya, especially since Avengers has Hawkeye (and i prefer Arrow over him). But yes..we already have a Green Lantern, and Batman in my opinion SHOULD be the only human on this superpowered team.

lol well I just being a bit wry and sardonic when it came to the whole 'roles' thing on the team. In the end, my point really is, Who gives a damn if there are two aliens on the team.
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You can still do J'onn as a detective and everything else he's about, and make it cool. All of those things in one make a pretty powerful character. But im just saying when u isolate each of his powers it feels like it's been done before. Either by other members of his own team, or just generally speaking in other movies that surround this project.

Well come on, every power that has ever been imagined has basically been done in some form or fashion. You can say the same thing about WW if you isolate her powers. Sure she has the lasso and bracelets, but she flies.. and is strong, so, When you see WW flying around and lifting a car for the first time on screen, are you going to say "Holy effing ****e batman" That is awesome! Cause it's fricking WodnerWoman on screen finally or are you going to say "This sucks, Superman can fly and has super-strength, why'd they show WW with that too".


The characters power-set is what it is. I'd rather see a couple of the same powers if it means staying true to the character than basically saying 'screw it' for sake of trying something different, and losing the essence of the characters. Sure characters aren't wholly defined by their powers, but they are a big part of their identity and I don't want that lost.

Seems like a bit of over-analyzing in regards to the whole 'original' powers thing. I dunno.


I can see the detective bit working well in a comedic scene, to Batman like he's just some amateur detective compared to him. Bats being frustrated with MM could be quite funny. And a cool way to introduce the Martian while making everyone not know what his agenda is, especially if one of the leaders like Batman doesn't trust him yet.

There are plethora of things they can do with MM in detective human form and Martian form when he finally comes out. I think Batman having an underlying investigation throughout the movie as well as doing what has to be done on the team side of things - if done right and it doesn't become a batman movie- can be very compelling.

Im sure WB and Beill wont care what Marvels doing and still have him, original or not, but then again sometimes theyre influenced by all of that crap. Look at this whole JLA idea in the first place, its heavily influenced by Avengers' success.

Im just a sucker for originality and i guess i just want this group of superheroes to be the polar opposite of Marvels and Avengers. Simply because i think most of the "big" characters from Marvel are just not original. They like ripping off DC a whole lot and my fanboyism wants Justice League to come off in a more superior fashion.

Well, do the Avengers have a shape shifting telepathic martian on their team? I don't think so, SOOO DC can take the originality award for that one, if they decide to include him in the movie :cwink: jk

Both companies do some things better than the other and I'm going to leave it at that.

[thorstone]

Nolan has said he won't allow Batman or Superman in the Justice League world. The Justice League will have to stand on their own; like the Avengers without the Spiderman or Dr. Doom properties.

I expect Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Manhunter, and someone like Captain Marvel or Captain Atom.

[HighFivingMF]

Nolan has said he won't allow Batman or Superman in the Justice League world. The Justice League will have to stand on their own; like the Avengers without the Spiderman or Dr. Doom properties.

I expect Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Manhunter, and someone like Captain Marvel or Captain Atom.

That Batman's over and they can easily convince Snyder, or not. It's their property they can do what they want. However it goes down, one thing is for sure: Superman and Batman will be in the movie.

[MarvelKnight]

Nolan has said he won't allow Batman or Superman in the Justice League world. The Justice League will have to stand on their own; like the Avengers without the Spiderman or Dr. Doom properties.

I expect Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Manhunter, and someone like Captain Marvel or Captain Atom.

Lol, while these recent incarnations of Bats and Supes have/are going to have Nolan's stamp. He doesn't unilaterally control the characters

His versions may not be the ones we see in JLA(remains to be seen with Supes yet), but they will be in JLA.

One thing your forgetting, is that WB/DC owns all their characters. There are no studio disputes. Whereas Spider-man and doom were sold off to other studios and therefore contractually could not be used by marvel

[shauner111]

Nolan has said he won't allow Batman or Superman in the Justice League world. The Justice League will have to stand on their own; like the Avengers without the Spiderman or Dr. Doom properties.

I expect Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Manhunter, and someone like Captain Marvel or Captain Atom.

As the other 2 above have said, Nolans Batman is finished in a few weeks. JLA will coincide with the reboot of Batman. Two different continuities. And Nolan never said he wouldn't allow it, he said his version.

Superman is 50/50 right now. Snyder could say the same thing and they'll cast somebody for the Justice League movies only, or Nolan and the rest of em will convince him to include Henry Cavill.

They'll never make this movie without Bats/Supes at the forefront.

[Bruce_Begins]

If WB wants to keep a low budget and copy Marvel's Avengers line up and at the same time keep Batman and Superman out of JL, then the line up could be -

Captain Marvel (Shazam), Steel / Cyborg, Guardian, Green Arrow, Black Canary and Amanda Waller. (Notice that No Aliens here and only One super powered Hero.)

This is similar to
(Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Nick Fury.)

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z90/bruce_begins/newAvengersJL.png


Will such a line up ever be used ? No.

WB knows it would be foolish making a JL movie without iconic characters like Batman and Superman (and maybe Wonder Woman) They have to include Bats and Supes, No matter what Nolan or Snyder think.

[Jake Cassidy]

Black Canary has a sonic scream. She's not a normal human like the others.

[sethypants]

green lantern is also a normal human.

[Nathan]

Nolan has said he won't allow Batman or Superman in the Justice League world. The Justice League will have to stand on their own; like the Avengers without the Spiderman or Dr. Doom properties.

I expect Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Manhunter, and someone like Captain Marvel or Captain Atom.

That's just stupid. A Justice League without Batman and Superman, would be like an Avengers without Ironman and Captain America. If Nolan doesn't want "his" Batman or Superman to be used, then I'm all for re-casting and using a different Batman and Superman.

[Bruce_Begins]

My point was to make a team up like Avengers (which consists of humans with exception of Thor.) and to make it possible with low budget.

Including Superman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Batman will require in a massive budget as each character brings with it a whole set of its own mythology and powers.


Of course what worked for Marvel would not work for DC, that is why Batman, Superman are must.

Getting Shazam in place of Superman and Green Arrow in place of Batman and Black Canary in place of Wonder Woman would be a huge mistake.

[Nathan]

I think the Justice League movie needs to be a different beast from the Avengers. In the Avengers Movie, you had Thor and Hulk as the true powerhouses. In Justice League, if you take the main seven, then everyone with the exception of Batman is a freaking monster.

There needs to be a moment in the Movie, like in the 3rd Episode of Starcrossed. Where Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern are flying toward an alien armada and Woner Woman says "Pretty bad odds.", with Superman only replying "Yeah... they don't stand a chance." and then commence to take them apart. The action just needs to be so much bigger.

[shauner111]

Yeah it needs to be MUCH bigger. This thing is either going to take place in space (at times) or in different countries. It's not just taking place inside New York battling on the streets and that's the final battle. Thank god Avengers got that out of their system so with Justice League they know what not to do, to make it different.

I don't even care or know if they'll keep the original 7, but i dont mind waiting for a sequel to introduce the 7th member. And i mean Martian Manhunter. If he's in, cool. If he's not, don't sweat it people cuz you'll get it sooner than later. I'm happy with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash and Aquaman. The rest is a bonus for me at this point. Bats/Supes has to be in it or im not interested. So whoever suggested that is probably not up to date on what's happening with these upcoming reboots.

Don't have any expectations over who the villain might be. Surprise me. I don't care really, just make him extremely threatening. A team would be a nice change but whatever.

I've said it before and ill say it again....Justice League has the best of the best on one team. Throwing Black Canary and Green Arrow on this team would be the equivalent to Black Widow/Hawkeyes involvement. It can be done and there's an audience for them that'll leave happy. But im just not one of those people. You're left feeling like the other 4 in Avengers are much better overall. And ill keep saying that the inclusion of Spider-Man and Black Panther (possibly Wolverine too) instead of the two generic assassins would have made for a massive JLA style team. The only thing that leaves me thinking it might not be so good is who they cast for each part.

[Changeling]

Yeah I honestly think it would be best if Green Arrow and Black Canary are seen in the Supermax story, or at least some kind of story where Green Arrow isn't just shown to be ridiculously good with a bow.. I want WB to show how Green Arrow is different than Hawkeye, and a Supermax movie would do a great job of that

[TheWatcher]

Superman,Batman,WW,Hal,Barry,MM,Aquaman.

That's the Justice League. No need for radical changes.

[MarvelKnight]

Superman,Batman,WW,Hal,Barry,MM,Aquaman.

That's the Justice League. No need for radical changes.

:up: :up:

[TheWatcher]

http://images.wikia.com/superfriends/images/f/f7/Justice_League_of_America_(FOUNDERS).jpg

^ This is the Justice League we all know.

[shauner111]

WE all know yes. WB may not think that way. I agree with you guys but did Avengers honour the original lineup? Or did they think an audience could relate to Black Widow and Hawkeye (2 assassins/spys) that work for Fury...played by names like Scarlett Johansson & Jeremy Renner? Sure they didnt trust them with their own movies at the time but they made sure Scarlett played a big part in Iron Man 2. And Hawkeye had his cameo in Thor.

I hope u guys are right and they see it that way.

Otherwise they may just toss out Martian Manhunter cuz they dont trust that the general audience know who he is. Or they cant get a big name actor to commit. Or they like New 52 too much.

I can tell u that i have friends who have been fans of comics and cbm's since they were kids and they dont even really know who MM is or that he's a part of JLA. Seriously. The more i hear of stuff like this, the more i think WB might be thinking the same thing. Or that it's on their radar but not a priority to include him like the other 6.

And one more thing...it seems like we're only a small portion here on this forum, and when i look around, there are just as many fans of the New 52 Lineup out there as there are haters. So don't get all nuts if changes are made and u see Cyborg as member numero 7 instead of ur beloved alien from Mars.

[TheWatcher]

They honored the Ultimates line-up. Which is very popular. Not to mention Hawkeye and Black Widow fit in with the Shield story that has been so prevalent for their universe.

Ant-Man is deserving of is own movie, MM isn't.

[MarvelKnight]

yeah the original line-up will be a way to differentiate themselves from Marvel. They are already Effed because they feel they have to churn out JLA in such a fast manner since The Avengers. So what if people don't know MM... This would be - if done the right way- the perfect way to introduce him to the masses in an entertaining and meaningful way. They can "hopefully" get it right the first time what Marvel took THREE times to do with the hulk (though I personally loved TIH)

AND -my pic not withstanding- the new 52 sucks balls. I would hope they do classic JLA stories and line-up and stay away from that other junk.

[CConn]

my dream JLA lineup?

Batman, Spider-Man, Hellboy, Atticus Finch, RoboCop, Hellen Keller, and Liam Neeson.

[shauner111]

They honored the Ultimates line-up. Which is very popular. Not to mention Hawkeye and Black Widow fit in with the Shield story that has been so prevalent for their universe.

Ant-Man is deserving of is own movie, MM isn't.

They did fit with the SHIELD story and you never know if they'll throw Ant-Man into an avengers sequel. Who's to say they wont start Justice League off with a non-original lineup too...bringing MM into a sequel.

yeah the original line-up will be a way to differentiate themselves from Marvel. They are already Effed because they feel they have to churn out JLA in such a fast manner since The Avengers. So what if people don't know MM... This would be - if done the right way- the perfect way to introduce him to the masses in an entertaining and meaningful way. They can "hopefully" get it right the first time what Marvel took THREE times to do with the hulk (though I personally loved TIH)

AND -my pic not withstanding- the new 52 sucks balls. I would hope they do classic JLA stories and line-up and stay away from that other junk.

A way to be different from Marvel, exactly. But they won't give people a Martian Manhunter movie. There's no way unless he gets over SO much in the team-up that fans are begging for it. Slim chance. But they probably never had plans on doing another Hulk movie, even with Ruffalo. And i bet they never expected fans to think he was the highlight of the whole movie, and now they're writing a new solo flick for Hulk because of it.

I personally disliked Incredible Hulk and i don't mind New 52 as much as you guys but i also prefer the original. So im with you there. But i just don't see how excluding the Martian would be such a huge deal.

People haven't been complaining about the lack of Ant-Man and i'm sure even the biggest avengers geeks wouldn't give a damn if BW or Hawkeye were killed off soon or replaced by bigger names. To me it's the same thing.

[shauner111]

my dream JLA lineup?

Batman, Spider-Man, Hellboy, Atticus Finch, RoboCop, Hellen Keller, and Liam Neeson.

Expendables 3, book it. :cwink:

[MarvelKnight]

They did fit with the SHIELD story and you never know if they'll throw Ant-Man into an avengers sequel. Who's to say they wont start Justice League off with a non-original lineup too...bringing MM into a sequel.



A way to be different from Marvel, exactly. But they won't give people a Martian Manhunter movie. There's no way unless he gets over SO much in the team-up that fans are begging for it. Slim chance. But they probably never had plans on doing another Hulk movie, even with Ruffalo. And i bet they never expected fans to think he was the highlight of the whole movie, and now they're writing a new solo flick for Hulk because of it.

I personally disliked Incredible Hulk and i don't mind New 52 as much as you guys but i also prefer the original. So im with you there. But i just don't see how excluding the Martian would be such a huge deal.

People haven't been complaining about the lack of Ant-Man and i'm sure even the biggest avengers geeks wouldn't give a damn if BW or Hawkeye were killed off soon or replaced by bigger names. To me it's the same thing.

I guess in the end excluding him isn't a big deal, but neither is INcluding him.. I've never thought MM needed his own movie to be introduced, I've only thought of him being the cog that brings the team together, much like the cartoon. Everyone else can have their own movie and whatnot, his debut is perfect for the JLA movie itself. Afterwards, who knows, but I definitely don't think he needs a whole movie for his backstory/mars/dead family, etc.

Though a Martian/White Martian war movie would be pretty damn cool, now that I think about it

[The Guard]

Frankly, including J'onn on the team is one really good way to set the Justice League and The Avengers apart.

The Avengers fought aliens in the movie. J'onn IS an alien. And yes, I know Thor technically kind of is, but J'onn actually looks like one.

[shauner111]

Yeaaaah but so is Superman technically. Martian Manhunter being an alien isn't going to set it apart, it's the idea of the original lineup. I don't know why people are so set in their ways about the 7 of them appearing right away. You want to set it apart? Keep J'onn J'onzz for the cliffhanger for Justice League 2. The villains aren't the set-up, new members are.

Hell, for one of the sequels why not do an all-out JLA vs Suicide Squad. That team up is in the works already, and u guys like the idea of a villainous team instead of just Darkseid for every movie right? Deadshot vs Batman can take place inside of this

[thorstone]

Lol, while these recent incarnations of Bats and Supes have/are going to have Nolan's stamp. He doesn't unilaterally control the characters

His versions may not be the ones we see in JLA(remains to be seen with Supes yet), but they will be in JLA.

One thing your forgetting, is that WB/DC owns all their characters. There are no studio disputes. Whereas Spider-man and doom were sold off to other studios and therefore contractually could not be used by marvel

Nolan is producing the next Batman; whether it's a sequel with Bale that is directed by someone else or it's a reboot.

Nolan is also set to produce JL. Warner sees him as the golden goose right now-- he will get whatever he wants.

[shauner111]

Nolan is producing the next Batman; whether it's a sequel with Bale that is directed by someone else or it's a reboot.

Nolan is also set to produce JL. Warner sees him as the golden goose right now-- he will get whatever he wants.

It's not "whether it's a sequel with Bale OR" nothing. No more movies with Bale period. He wont do them without Nolan, and Chris will never return.

He's producer for the reboot and JLA and Supes and MAYBE some other characters, but that's all. He doesnt get what he wants entirely. Id like to think that he wants his trilogy to stand alone but he's probably very open-minded to the next Batman being involved in Justice League or having Robin or battling another Joker or battling more fantastical characters, etc.

[sethypants]

yeah the original line-up will be a way to differentiate themselves from Marvel. They are already Effed because they feel they have to churn out JLA in such a fast manner since The Avengers. So what if people don't know MM... This would be - if done the right way- the perfect way to introduce him to the masses in an entertaining and meaningful way. They can "hopefully" get it right the first time what Marvel took THREE times to do with the hulk (though I personally loved TIH)

AND -my pic not withstanding- the new 52 sucks balls. I would hope they do classic JLA stories and line-up and stay away from that other junk.

How does having their original line-up differentiate themselves from Marvel? As far as the general public concerns, they have no idea and do not care what the original line up is.
To them Hawkeye and Black Widow is the original line up.

[shauner111]

How does having their original line-up differentiate themselves from Marvel? As far as the general public concerns, they have no idea and do not care what the original line up is.
To them Hawkeye and Black Widow is the original line up.

See this is true. And i think itll seperate it for us fans but i agree that the general audience won't give a damn. This is why it doesn't matter whether Martian or Cyborg or none of them are in this. There are comic book geeks who don't even know who Martian Manhunter is like it or not. The reasoning behind BW & Hawkeye was to..

A) Tie it into SHIELD
B) They were able to snatch up big actors
C) They obviously didn't have confidence in AntMan yet
D) They had to have more than 4 on the team since they couldnt get Spiderman, etc.

If they find the right actor with a larger name than u would expect for such an obscure character...have the story set around villains coming from different planets...they'll use MM.

There will be a reason behind his inclusion, it wont be just because he was a part of the original lineup and the fans want it. WB will not care about that. The general audience know the other six members and that will be the priority. Any other additions will be icing on the cake and only done if it fits the story.

[TheWatcher]

They did fit with the SHIELD story and you never know if they'll throw Ant-Man into an avengers sequel. Who's to say they wont start Justice League off with a non-original lineup too...bringing MM into a sequel.
Thats what I said? :huh:

[shauner111]

Thats what I said? :huh:

.............aaand what would ur point be..?

[sethypants]

See this is true. And i think itll seperate it for us fans but i agree that the general audience won't give a damn. This is why it doesn't matter whether Martian or Cyborg or none of them are in this. There are comic book geeks who don't even know who Martian Manhunter is like it or not. The reasoning behind BW & Hawkeye was to..

A) Tie it into SHIELD
B) They were able to snatch up big actors
C) They obviously didn't have confidence in AntMan yet
D) They had to have more than 4 on the team since they couldnt get Spiderman, etc.

If they find the right actor with a larger name than u would expect for such an obscure character...have the story set around villains coming from different planets...they'll use MM.

There will be a reason behind his inclusion, it wont be just because he was a part of the original lineup and the fans want it. WB will not care about that. The general audience know the other six members and that will be the priority. Any other additions will be icing on the cake and only done if it fits the story.

I do agree with your assessment.

[GreenKToo]

I'm like the others. I would lose interest if supes and bats were not in it. Better to not make it at all then to not have the two biggest draws present.
W.B. knows this I would think.
Maybe keep it kinda small for the first film. Superman, Batman, G.L., Flash, and W.W., and bring in two more members for the possible sequel.

[Pepsiguy2]

Agreed. Supes/Bats/Hal/Flash/WW would be a good line-up since it's simple and most people know about these characters. In solo films afterwards, WB can tease at/introduce other characters like aquaman or cyborg.

[sethypants]

I hope that they can at least bring in Aquaman in the first movie. I mean 6 heroes is not too much to ask for right?
Then again we need space for characters like Steve Trevor, Amanda Waller, possibly General Lane also.

[Changeling]

I hope that they can at least bring in Aquaman in the first movie. I mean 6 heroes is not too much to ask for right?
Then again we need space for characters like Steve Trevor, Amanda Waller, possibly General Lane also.

Dude seriously.

I dunno why but I want to see Aquaman on the big screen as much as I do Wonder Woman and Flash. I'd rather see Aquaman on the team than Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. My ideal lineup is the big 7 minus Martian Manhunter who could be in a sequel

[The Guard]

I have a hard time seeing five members as a "league". Seven just feels right.

[Changeling]

I'm assuming you want the original 7? The thing about Martian Manhunter is I would want to see his origin, maybe he could become a member at the end of the movie and before that they could show his origin and connect it to the plot...

What do people think about Plastic Man being on the team.. it wouldn't happen but that could be really cool.

[HighFivingMF]

Then again we need space for characters like Steve Trevor, Amanda Waller, possibly General Lane also.

You don't need any of them.

[Changeling]

Agreed. I think we should be light on supporting cast like that. The Jl needs all the screentime they can get

[The Guard]

I'm assuming you want the original 7? The thing about Martian Manhunter is I would want to see his origin, maybe he could become a member at the end of the movie and before that they could show his origin and connect it to the plot...

What do people think about Plastic Man being on the team.. it wouldn't happen but that could be really cool.

Yeah, the original seven is good.

I love Plastic Man. I wrote a Justice League movie script that featured Plastic Man trying to prove himself to the league as a subplot. I think it'd be cool, but there are probably more deserving characters.

[shauner111]

Im looking forward to these announcements. If Cavills in. If Reynolds is returning or being re-cast. If an Aquaman movie will be made prior to JL or if theyll jump right into it. Same with the Batman reboot. Will Martian Manhunter be a part of it or not. Should get all of that in the next couple of years hopefully.

They just need to keep it simple. Far more simple than Avengers.

Do we need a SHIELD, spies/agents + multiple superheroes all on the team vs a villain with an army behind him. All taken place in one city in America? JL needs to be more of an epic scope. Multiple countries, over large bodies of water, space. But a smaller and more simple team. 6 (maybe 7) heroes. 1 villain. Done.

I wouldn't mind the league vs a team of villains but for a sequel. I love that idea but establish the League as a team in the first one then move on to a 7 on 7 battle or something.

[sethypants]

Dude seriously.

I dunno why but I want to see Aquaman on the big screen as much as I do Wonder Woman and Flash. I'd rather see Aquaman on the team than Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. My ideal lineup is the big 7 minus Martian Manhunter who could be in a sequel

Me too. Although I think Cyborg would most likely be in the movie.

http://movieworld.myfun.com.au/rides-and-attractions/family-entertainment/~/media/Images/VRTP%20Images/MovieWorld-New/Ride%20and%20Attractions/JusticeLeague/JL_FB_Cyborg_Boy_520-x-249.ashx?mh=249&mw=520

[The Boy Scout]

They're serious about pimping him out, huh?

[MarvelKnight]

Im looking forward to these announcements. If Cavills in. If Reynolds is returning or being re-cast. If an Aquaman movie will be made prior to JL or if theyll jump right into it. Same with the Batman reboot. Will Martian Manhunter be a part of it or not. Should get all of that in the next couple of years hopefully.

They just need to keep it simple. Far more simple than Avengers.

Do we need a SHIELD, spies/agents + multiple superheroes all on the team vs a villain with an army behind him. All taken place in one city in America? JL needs to be more of an epic scope. Multiple countries, over large bodies of water, space. But a smaller and more simple team. 6 (maybe 7) heroes. 1 villain. Done.

I wouldn't mind the league vs a team of villains but for a sequel. I love that idea but establish the League as a team in the first one then move on to a 7 on 7 battle or something.

I'd like to see a healthy amount of time shown as to how ineffective conventional means of the average shmuck army/governments are against whatever villain(s) they come up with. I definitely think you should have the heroes coming together on their own without any sort of middle-man.(as far as it being a SHIELD-esque gov't agency goes) I think it will have a more epic and heroic feel when the league bails the world out from brink of destruction. I like the idea of it just 'happening because it has to' and staying together for the good of the world instead of the whole 'we expected something to happen sometime' as the avengers did.

In the end, i'll be happy with a damn good movie above all else. Whether it's no-namers, a-listers or whoever. Same goes for the League (besides the big 4 of Hal/GL, Diana/WW, Bruce/Bats, and Clark/Supes.

If they use cyborg, I just don't ever want to hear the words 'BOOYAH' out of his mouth, comes off great in animation, but comedic relief or not.. just, No.

[HighFivingMF]

Me too. Although I think Cyborg would most likely be in the movie.

http://movieworld.myfun.com.au/rides-and-attractions/family-entertainment/~/media/Images/VRTP%20Images/MovieWorld-New/Ride%20and%20Attractions/JusticeLeague/JL_FB_Cyborg_Boy_520-x-249.ashx?mh=249&mw=520

What's that?

[shauner111]

Hahaha that's gonna be the first words that come out of Cyborgs mouth. Watch and see!

I agree with everything you said. I want the government to stay away from decision making.

It's looking like it'll be for the most part of a bunch of newcomers who will be cast for each role. As much as I would of loved to have seen the likes of Bale and Gosling and Elba, etc on board, it just isn't going to happen. That's more dream casting than anything else. It's more fitting ESPECIALLY if they use Cyborg, who is such a newcomer for the League and with a younger Batman, etc. The younger and so not famous cast is what they'll give us, probably. Even if they use Cyborg it doesn't mean J'onn J'onzz won't be used to some degree in the script.

[sethypants]

What's that?

a new ride coming to WB movie world in Australia. Its likely that they would have more rides coming up in Six Flags.

[awesome232]

JUSTICE LEAGUE: LINE UP

-Superman
-Batman
-Wonder Woman
-Flash
-Green Lantern
-Green Arrow
-Martian Manhunter
-Aquaman

I would probably only want seven or eight so the team is not that big and then in the sequels, more heroes could join and it would become JLA and JLI.

With Flash, I would most likely choose Wally West and have Barry Allen be dead after retirement due to Professor Zoom. But Barry should return in the Flash sequels and then join the JLA.

And for the Green Lantern, I would love to see Jon Stewart! I was introduced to him by the JL cartoon on Cartoon Network. But I'm pretty sure that Hal Jordan will be used. I'm fine with that.

#JUSTICELEAGUE2015

[Karem-Knight]

I hope whoever the director is, during the meeting with WB just says "**** Cyborg. I want the ORIGINAL seven." :o

[CConn]

Why do people like Jon Stewart?

He's like one of the blandest, most pointless characters ever.

[HighFivingMF]

Why do people like Jon Stewart?

They do!?

[solidsnake86]

They're serious about pimping him out, huh?

If they weren't they never would have launched the new 52 with him.

[Joeyjojo72]

Six characters at the MOST. And five would be more manageable. Supes, Bats, WW, Flash, Aquaman. Maybe a small part for Martian Manhunter. Leave GL out completely imo. He has the silliest powers by far, and the bad taste is still fresh from the recent movie. Waaaay too early to revisit the character.

[Joeyjojo72]

There is zero chance that the movie (if it happens) will have the full lineup from the recent comics. six characters tops, a la the original team.

[Jake Cassidy]

Why do people like Jon Stewart?

because he's ****in' hilarious.

[Jake Cassidy]

my dream JLA lineup?

Batman, Spider-Man, Hellboy, Atticus Finch, RoboCop, Hellen Keller, and Liam Neeson.

Liam Neeson doesn't need the help. He can kick the crap out of Darkseid, Brainiac, Despero and the Legion of Doom all by himself.

[Jake Cassidy]

There is zero chance that the movie (if it happens) will have the full lineup from the recent comics. six characters tops, a la the original team.

The original team didn't have 6 members.

[Captain Marvel]

Nah, I think they'll use Cyborg as their TBG, like in the current Justice League series. Sooo...

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Flash (Barry Allen)
Cyborg

If they go for a 7th it could be either Aquaman or Martian Manhunter (Who could be their second TBG in that, while he's not really black, the human form he takes on is frequently of a black man), although they may dispense with both and use some other character, possibly another woman like Black Canary or Hawkgirl.

[TheHeatKitchen]

Superman
Batman (Serving more of a behind the scenes role)
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern (John Stewart)
Flash (Barry Allen)
Aquaman

[TheWatcher]

You remember the end of the Avengers when the heroes were staring down at Loki?

http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/justice-league-1.jpg

[Llama_Shepherd]

They shouldn't include that. It'd look so much like a cheap ripoff then.

[shauner111]

Seriously, after watching that footage for Man Of Steel, it's made me re-think Justice League all together.

It's a far more grounded approach to Superman that could very well fit in our universe (and Batmans easily). If they use Cavill it's going to be extremely hard to try to fit in the likes of Aquaman, Green Lantern (especially Hal Jordan if played by Reynolds or just a recast) or Martian Manhunter. I really think Flash and Wonder Woman have the kind of potential that would allow them to be grounded like Batman/Superman. It's not too late to pull it off either.

The others are going to be tricky at this point. They would have to not only re-cast GL, they might have to reboot all together and not just get another dude for a sequel and change things around. It's John Stewart with a much more grounded and serious approach or it's a complete rebooted makeover. Re-tell the origin but with small flashbacks.

Goyers script for Flash or the one that was described as a "Se7en meets Matrix/Dark Knightish" style will work great. It'll be the cheapest film to make too. Wonder Woman can be incredibly epic in scope and touch on some deep themes that Man Of Steel and the Dark Knight Trilogy seem to touch upon.

Especially if they're still thinking of dropping a Wonder Woman reference in the new Superman.

I know it's like "well then why bother even making a Justice League?" and i agree i guess lol. Maybe the answer is to just not make one til the next decade. Or just do a Worlds Finest/Trinity film?

I still think John Stewart would be able to fit a little better now instead of Hal. I dont know..just how i see it. And they can always do Barry Allen and just throw in some Wally West in the character. An amalgamation of multiple Flash personalities but using Barrys origin/career.

[TheWatcher]

They shouldn't include that. It'd look so much like a cheap ripoff then.
I would LIKE to see that, they shouldn't do it.

[FVD]

Seriously, after watching that footage for Man Of Steel, it's made me re-think Justice League all together.

It's a far more grounded approach to Superman that could very well fit in our universe (and Batmans easily). If they use Cavill it's going to be extremely hard to try to fit in the likes of Aquaman, Green Lantern (especially Hal Jordan if played by Reynolds or just a recast) or Martian Manhunter. I really think Flash and Wonder Woman have the kind of potential that would allow them to be grounded like Batman/Superman. It's not too late to pull it off either.

The others are going to be tricky at this point. They would have to not only re-cast GL, they might have to reboot all together and not just get another dude for a sequel and change things around. It's John Stewart with a much more grounded and serious approach or it's a complete rebooted makeover. Re-tell the origin but with small flashbacks.

Goyers script for Flash or the one that was described as a "Se7en meets Matrix/Dark Knightish" style will work great. It'll be the cheapest film to make too. Wonder Woman can be incredibly epic in scope and touch on some deep themes that Man Of Steel and the Dark Knight Trilogy seem to touch upon.

Especially if they're still thinking of dropping a Wonder Woman reference in the new Superman.

I know it's like "well then why bother even making a Justice League?" and i agree i guess lol. Maybe the answer is to just not make one til the next decade. Or just do a Worlds Finest/Trinity film?

I still think John Stewart would be able to fit a little better now instead of Hal. I dont know..just how i see it. And they can always do Barry Allen and just throw in some Wally West in the character. An amalgamation of multiple Flash personalities but using Barrys origin/career.

Aquaman would fit into this grounded universe better than some of the other JL members IMHO. I reckon he oughta follow Wonder Woman as a solo movie and then the Flash. Martian Manhunter can easily be the glue that brings the JL together as he won't need his own movie. But we've already talked about that. :p

I'd still rather have Hal in there over John as Hal and Barry are a done deal like in recent years. Just wouldn't seem right being John and Barry. Heck if they do indeed go with John they may as well do away with Barry and bring in Wally instead! No thank you!!! :nono:

[sethypants]

I fear it might be
Superman
Wonder Woman
Batman
Hal Jordan
Barry Allen
Cyborg
Martian Manhunter
:(
I would really rather have Aquaman than MM

[Lord]

I would rather have Martian Manhunter or Aquaman than Cyborg, in fact i think they should use the classic line-up:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter

Really, why would somebody not use Aquaman? There are a lot of visual coolness that can be done with the character, and don't get me wrong with Cyborg, i like the character, but he's a Teen Titans character, that's like puting Robin in the JLA

[sethypants]

But if they wanna do a realistic take on Superhero, Cyborg is actually a better character than MM. But I'm just afraid they might leave Aquaman out.

[combocaz]

They need Aquaman before marvel brings out Namor.

[Lord]

But if they wanna do a realistic take on Superhero, Cyborg is actually a better character than MM. But I'm just afraid they might leave Aquaman out.
How would Cyborg be more realistic? TMoS is making it clear that aliens exist, from what i saw they didn't show humans creating such advanced technology, and i doubt they will if they indeed try to make it more grounded.

So there you have it, in the end Martian Manhunter fits the bill more than Cyborg if you're after realism, and as i said before Cyborg is better with the Teen Titans than the Justice League.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Man of Steel is also showing advanced technology from other worlds. Just like what Cyborg is mainly made of.

[TheWatcher]

If they are showing things from other worlds then they should use MM. Since you know, he's from another world.

[RCM]

Nolan has said he won't allow Batman or Superman in the Justice League world. The Justice League will have to stand on their own; like the Avengers without the Spiderman or Dr. Doom properties.

I expect Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Manhunter, and someone like Captain Marvel or Captain Atom.

Nolan doesnt own the franchise.

And if Im not mistaken Spiderman didnt join the avengers until waaaay later.

But without Superman and Batman you dont have a Justice League.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Unlike Cyborg's Apokoliptan machinery?


The same case can be made for both.

[sethypants]

How would Cyborg be more realistic? TMoS is making it clear that aliens exist, from what i saw they didn't show humans creating such advanced technology, and i doubt they will if they indeed try to make it more grounded.

So there you have it, in the end Martian Manhunter fits the bill more than Cyborg if you're after realism, and as i said before Cyborg is better with the Teen Titans than the Justice League.

Basically Cyborg makes for more compelling storyline.
There isn't much you can do with MM. Besides, he is just Superman with Shape Shifting abilities. We already got 2 god like heroes in Justice League. No need for the additional one.
Also, it would make Superman the only alien in the team and thus making him stand out more.

[Frontier]

Been thinking lately, if they're smart they'll keep the league small. 5 members rather than 7. Maybe 6, but no more. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and the Flash. If they have a 6th, another woman would just be smart. It attracts more of an audience - women to see a women kick butt, men because, well, frankly, eye candy for the most part, lol.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Why? Avengers had 8 main characters and 2 supporting characters. Justice League could do the same.

[shauner111]

it's better to keep it small. Avengers did it? So what, the idea should be to do what u can to seperate it. I still stick by my idea to have Bats, Supes, WW, Flash, GL with a major Aquaman tease only at the end.

[The Guard]

Basically Cyborg makes for more compelling storyline.

There isn't much you can do with MM. Besides

...no. Just no.

[Llama_Shepherd]

it's better to keep it small. Avengers did it? So what, the idea should be to do what u can to seperate it. I still stick by my idea to have Bats, Supes, WW, Flash, GL with a major Aquaman tease only at the end.

The number of characters does not indicate similarity. Would you rather a different example? Lord of the Rings had 10 main characters, and a number of supporting characters.

It's not better to keep it small. It's just smaller.

[Lord]

They should take smaller steps than Marvel, they could start with a World's Finest film, then a Trinity film, and finally a Justice League epic. That's just my opinion and personal preference.

[Shikamaru]

Nah. That would take too long. It took 5 years to get an Avengers film and a build-up of 5 movies. If DC were to take even smaller steps than Marvel did and first do a World's Finest film then a Trinity film and then a JL film, we won't be getting a JL till 20 years from now.

I think most people wouldn't be interested in a World's Finest movie. World's Finest can be great in comics, games, and animation but it wouldn't be that interesting in live-action IMO simply because there are many other ideas I would like to see done instead.

[KangConquers]

I think a great way to go about picking the line-up is figuring out who would best serve the story; if we're going with Apokolips and the New Gods, we really have no reason to use Aquaman...but if we're going with the Legion of Doom/ Injustice League, there's no reason to use Martian Manhunter...it's kind of a balancing act.

The characters immune to this of course, would be Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Beyond that though, I think every other position is fair game.

[Shikamaru]

I think a great way to go about picking the line-up is figuring out who would best serve the story; if we're going with Apokolips and the New Gods, we really have no reason to use Aquaman...but if we're going with the Legion of Doom/ Injustice League, there's no reason to use Martian Manhunter...it's kind of a balancing act.

The characters immune to this of course, would be Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Beyond that though, I think every other position is fair game.

I slightly disagree. I fully agree they should pick the line-up based on who would serve the story the best but the characters immune to that should be Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Flash.

[Lord]

Incredible the bunch of people that don't want Aquaman, pick a comic for god's sake

http://whatwouldspideydo.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/aquaman1new52.jpg

[HighFivingMF]

Just for fun: If you couldn't use Clark, Bruce, Diana, Hal, Barry, Arthur, or J'onn. But you needed 7 members, who would you pick? Legacy characters are allowed.

[TheWatcher]

Captain Marvel,Nightwing,Donna Troy,Kyle,Wally,Green Arrow, and Black Canary

[Shikamaru]

I personally would prefer no JL movie at all over a JL movie that doesn't even have one of the founding members.

[HighFivingMF]

I personally would prefer no JL movie at all over a JL movie that doesn't even have one of the founding members.

Which is why I said "Just for fun"

[Primal Slayer]

I pray they dont use Cyborg. I think there are a lot more deserving characters that should be part of the line up and the reasons why they say he deserves to be a-list just dont really gel with me.

But I do want them to have another female on the team besides WW. Tired of the usual group with 1 female in it. Canary/Vixen/Hawkgirl/Zantanna would all be good, mostly Canary.

[Changeling]

Im fine with Superman Batman Wonder Woman Green Lantern and Flash. I would have liked Aquaman but thats a fine team. Aquaman over MM in a sequel though for sure, if any character is to be introduced in a sequel it would be Aquaman.

[RadioSha]

Im fine with Superman Batman Wonder Woman Green Lantern and Flash. I would have liked Aquaman but thats a fine team. Aquaman over MM in a sequel though for sure, if any character is to be introduced in a sequel it would be Aquaman.

I agree with this

Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Flash

[fixxxer1022]

Incredible the bunch of people that don't want Aquaman, pick a comic for god's sake

http://whatwouldspideydo.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/aquaman1new52.jpg


he always seemed like a secondary hero to me.

[shauner111]

Ive been saying it for how long? Aquaman as the cliff-hanger for the sequel and nobody believed me. Geeeeeeeeeez :p

[JosephCAW]

the line up I'd love to see is

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Flash
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter

with appearances by Victor Stone who in the film can be in the accident that eventually turns him into Cyborg (maybe have him in the sequel) and Billy Batson, have him in the same situation as Cyborg, you see him with his parents or his social worker and in the next one or in a solo film he becomes Captain Marvel....oh sorry...."SHAZAM"....god I think its stupid to call him that, "he good sir who are you...SHAZAM...hey where'd he go and where'd this kid come from" lol

[shauner111]

Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash.
Just looking at those names gets me excited. Very different approach to Avengers.

Avengers was a comic book brought to life. Fun, light, explosions, one-liners, the Transformers of superhero movies. Launched a whole slew of solo films to lead into the team-up. 7 members against a villain and his army. The sequel should scale things down a bit.

Versus...Justice League of America.

Most of that stuff can still happen but hopefully in doses. Would be much more mature, and a little more grounded in comparison. Slightly darker, more character driven. After the reboot of the original superhero..launch into the team-up then branch into the solo films afterwards. 5 members against 1 main villain. The sequel blows things up a bit with new members.

[Changeling]

5 members makes it seem less like a team/league and more like a spontaneous gathering of powerful peoples to fight off a big threat. I like the idea of the JL forming like that anyways

[Primal Slayer]

I think Avengers was the perfect balance between comics and "reality". I dont think JL needs to be anymore grounded than Avengers was. I think to try to ground superheroes to much just takes the fun part out of it.

[Changeling]

They can be grounded the same amount but more dark, mature and serious which is what I think they will do.

[shauner111]

To me a League is something that grows in numbers as it goes on. More members gradually join a league, so it works.

Avengers was more of a random team that was thrown together by some agents and higher-ups so they can stop other worldly threats that hit earth.

JLA should be different. It should come together without the amount of bickering Avengers had. It's like a club and nobody is going to get in their way. No government, nothing. It's about bringing Justice.

[Changeling]

I think since the Avengers is supported by their government itd be cool to have a different angle where the government fears the Justice League, leading to **** like OMACs, Max Lord, and a recast Amanda Waller. **** Green Lantern (2011)

[JosephCAW]

so something similar to how the New 52 has it, the Government doesn't really trust the Justice League, but currently dont have the means to actually stop them. There still trying to get info on what goes on inside the Watchtower lol

[shauner111]

Hells yeaaaah! I like that...the government FEARING the Justice League.

[Changeling]

Aquaman needs a huge update no doubt. That costume hasnt changed barely at all. And it needs to...

[JosephCAW]

if they make a live action version of Aquaman thats similar to the New 52 version....it would help big time, not alot to carry him in a solo film, might have to use him in a similar approach to Hawkeye in THOR & The Avengers.....but it could work

[metaphysician]

Aquaman would be too much cost for the benefit, in terms of mandatory underwater scenes. I like the guy, but he has to go. Whereas Martian Manhunter could actually serve as the unifying factor, the guy who actually goes out and brings the heroes together to save the world. The Nick Fury of the DCU, if Nick were a solo shapeshifting green alien demigod.

[shauner111]

I think they both shouldnt be a part of this. I dont want the Nick Fury type for this movie nor do i want a character that nobody seems to believe in. If the writer cares about updating Aquaman then fine but dont throw him in there just because he's a part of the original lineup.

The "mandatory underwater scenes" is exactly the problem. What if the story doesn't require sea life, and oceans, etc? There might be a reason why Aquaman is left out of the movie.

They may just want to get away from space and martians too. If they're trying to go for a more grounded approach with superheroes on earth, while staying away from what Avengers did? The main 5 is the way to go. No King of Atlantis, no shapeshifting Aliens from Mars, no Superman and Green Lantern flying up into space.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Aquaman needs a huge update no doubt. That costume hasnt changed barely at all. And it needs to...

I pretty much disagree. I think the costume is fine, but alteration to live action is of course necessary. But I feel your point begs the question, should we create a costume section?