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Rodrigo90
06-18-2012, 09:32 AM
But will people accept such a butch Wonder Woman? :D

Nathan
06-18-2012, 09:35 AM
I would say yes.

Rodrigo90
06-18-2012, 09:48 AM
Cause it can go either way. I never liked the Wonder Woman from Frank Miller's interp...but we should ignore that anyway :O

Wonder Woman, judging by that TV pilot, she sounded like a cruel unethical cow! lol

But I see it when she takes the huff in the JL comics, she's too headstrong, where she's all for the worst possible outcome of a situation, and I don't think that should happen.

Now if she was like Xena :)

Nathan
06-18-2012, 09:54 AM
I saw a part of it, where she throws a pipe into someone's throat. o_O That, btw, is something I don't want to see. Because that was someone she could have easily taken down, seeing as he couldn't land a single shot.

terry78
06-18-2012, 10:03 AM
It's like when a woman is able to fight in fiction, she can't restrain herself when it comes to fighting those evil men. She can't just disable them, she has to ****ing cripple them.

Rodrigo90
06-18-2012, 10:10 AM
I'm all for disabling them, but impaling them through the neck with a pipe, a bit uncalled for? :p

dnno1
06-18-2012, 01:00 PM
But will people accept such a butch Wonder Woman? :D

I would say yes.

There will be some that will, but not everyone. The real question would be "are there going to be enough people that will go to see that?"

Airwings
06-18-2012, 02:57 PM
It's amusing that discussion about wheather WW should kill or not could fill a whole page of posts (in the old thread) but the director topic just got about two replies. :woot:

Majik1387
06-18-2012, 03:15 PM
Like I said, I don't think WW should be like the Punisher when it comes to killing, but I don't think she should have a no-kill policy, she should follow the Greek version of the way of the warrior.

TheComicbookKid
06-18-2012, 03:25 PM
Or they'd train her in order to be prepared for the dangers of the outside world, and ready to do what's necessary, when the time comes. Especially when fighting Gods and mythical creatures.

Except they never knew she was going to the outside world until Trevor showed up, right? So they would train her on how to apply her power not only in defense of herself but how to use it to defend others. There's a difference between a bully and standing up for someone. Revenge and avenging. She fights more than just namesless mythological creatures. If it's DR. Psycho or something humanoid, murdering a full-fledged human takes on more complex rationales.


And as for being callous, I can see our world being a lot more responsible for that[/B].


You post a clip from an episode that ends with WW realizing that anger, fighting and killing was exactly what was fueling the monster. Exactly what she was being in the clip you posted. Ironic?
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So she wins by not killing or throwing haymakers. That's the clever WW who outwits her opponents. Sees the options Bats and Supes wouldn't.


Or do it the Batman Begins way and not bother to save some people.

Well, I have problems with the way that was handled so I'd say no.

I agree, that she's not like Bats or Supes. But if she has the power to save Cheetah and the bus load of kids she should/will. However, unlike Supes who wants to be everywhere and would carry the guilt of not saving everyone, if Cheetah dies in executing a plan that leaves WW unable to save both, then Cheetah falls to her death. WW isn't going to feel guilty. Cheetah died being a b---h.

terry78
06-18-2012, 03:33 PM
I could see her attempting to help Cheetah and calling her "sister" as like a final plea to say "you can still be redeemed," and Cheetah not taking it or trying to take her with her.

Nathan
06-18-2012, 04:19 PM
You know what CK, we are getting nowhere. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't mind WW not being Superman and Batman, and have the occasional kill, you don't. What's the next topic?

TheComicbookKid
06-18-2012, 06:01 PM
You know what CK, we are getting nowhere. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't mind WW not being Superman and Batman, and have the occasional kill, you don't. What's the next topic?

I wasn't trying to convince you. I just think, we see that "kill, angry" version of WW all the time now.It's kind of the default. JL Frontier-JMS-Azzarello-WW animated.

Not making it the center piece of her character is what I want. I want to see her more relaxed Diana Prince identity the way we get to see Bruce Wayne in Nolan's films. Her dynamic with Etta, Hippolyta, and the Amazons in ways we never really think about. Like Nolan has done with Alfred and Gordon. But to do that, it requires a bit of ironing out of characters around her and what they mean. That's why I place so much emphasis on the Amazon's characterization.

KingMadness
06-18-2012, 09:31 PM
I actually quite like Wonder Woman killing on rare, extreme occasions. If Ares has set into motion a plan to take over the world, and there is no possible alternative, I don't mind Wonder Woman killing. Like another said, have her show remorse, don't let it be a cold blooded thing, and its fine.

Are we still ignoring the fact who is writing this movie? How can people be excited about this? I feel discouraged about this movie more now than ever.

Brian2887
06-18-2012, 09:50 PM
I don't think there needs to be a big debate here. Wonder Woman isn't the Punisher. If she's stopping a mugging or facing down someone weaker than her, she shouldn't rip his head off. In a large battle, or against someone dangerous, she should fight to the best of her abilities. In it to win it. Not killing for the sake of killing, but she's a warrior. People die in combat.

Similar to how Captain America killed in the Marvel-Verse. He's not straight-up murdering random folks, but he did what he had to do. Shoot people, throw them out of a plane, whatever.

The Guard
06-19-2012, 08:51 AM
What Brian said.

I'd like to see a Wonder Woman who kills only when its absolutely neccessary, but who eventually develops into someone who tries to use methods other than violence to solve problems, and then becomes an ambassador.

TheComicbookKid
06-19-2012, 09:16 AM
I don't think her standards about killing should evolve or be based on if, then.

It should be an easily understood standard.

I don't think there needs to be a big debate here. Wonder Woman isn't the Punisher. If she's stopping a mugging or facing down someone weaker than her, she shouldn't rip his head off. In a large battle, or against someone dangerous, she should fight to the best of her abilities. In it to win it. Not killing for the sake of killing, but she's a warrior. People die in combat.

Similar to how Captain America killed in the Marvel-Verse. He's not straight-up murdering random folks, but he did what he had to do. Shoot people, throw them out of a plane, whatever.

No one was advocating a Punisher style WW. Killing a bunch of nameless one-eyed bats isn't going to raise an eyebrow.

The thing is that weaker isn't the point. Dr. Psycho is weaker than her, but if he pulled a stunt, like in the comics, where he willed a bunch of people to leap off buildings unless she stops him then what?

Capt. never made any part of his mantra about violence and redemption. You can't really have a mantra about redemption if you are the sole judge, jury, and executor about who has the right to live.











Isn't that the whole point of supervillains? To make the hero lose their standards by pushing them into thinking they don't have options?

Rodrigo90
06-19-2012, 09:51 AM
The only person I'm fine with her killing is Ares.

Majik1387
06-19-2012, 01:49 PM
Eh, there's plenty more people I'm fine with her killing, Ares is one of them.

Nathan
06-19-2012, 01:54 PM
Just give her Captain America's moral compass and we're golden. I like how she was handled in the DTV and wouldn't mind if the Movie version is exactly like that.

TheComicbookKid
06-19-2012, 02:49 PM
You guys are heartless. How can you advocate killing Skinny Colonel Sanders or his pet Goldfish-Octopus?
They're so precious!!!!


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Tanin
06-20-2012, 03:11 AM
As someone who knows next to nothing about Wonder Woman... what is the best way to jump into getting to know her character.... other then reading her Wikipedia page?

Silvermoth
06-20-2012, 05:15 AM
Try tracking down the George Perez run. That's how I got started a few years ago.

DrCosmic
06-25-2012, 02:31 PM
Watch the Wonder Woman (2009) animated movie. It's good clean fun. If you're still down and Perez is too dated for you, pick up Gail Simone's run.

Tanin
06-26-2012, 01:56 PM
Saw the 2009 film this morning. It's really good, thanks for recommending it. Is that her modern origin or did they take a lot of liberties with it?

MarvelKnight
06-26-2012, 02:05 PM
the 2009 film was very solid, indeed. watched it last month and in fact, i might again very soon

DrCosmic
06-30-2012, 03:05 AM
Saw the 2009 film this morning. It's really good, thanks for recommending it. Is that her modern origin or did they take a lot of liberties with it?

It is really good. I went through a phase where I watched it every other day for a month. I really liked how they filled out the Amazons diversely, how they took all this immense mythological politics and condensed it down to a domestic squabble, and then just let Diana rip. It was pretty slick for something that I consider so ornate.

Um, the origin, oh yeah. They did the modern Perez origin, but streamlined it so that instead of a council of goddesses giving Diana life it was pretty much Zeus and Hera. Also, they didn't really go into her receiving powers, or what they were, or from whom, and the modern origin is pretty explicit on that. There's also some crazy reincarnation/well of souls stuff that the movie left out. And by Modern, I mean Perez (1986) as opposed to the brand spanking new origin from last year where she's a demigod. But all the Amazon stuff, definitely Perez, and the tournament, invisible jet, 'angel' nick name, and other stuff of course is in the original 40's series.

sethypants
07-01-2012, 12:56 AM
I think they should make a movie based on Wonder Woman's latest run in the new 52. War with gods and all. Its extremely exciting. Plus reimagining all the gods to look like modern people is brilliant.

DrCosmic
07-01-2012, 11:16 AM
They probably will do that, it's been really popular with a lot of people. I personally don't like it, and I'm not a big WW purist, I like the demigod change, but the story doesn't grab me. Not sure why.

TheComicbookKid
07-01-2012, 07:23 PM
At this point, we've seen the gods translated from toga(Clash) to armor(Clash2.0), normal clothes(Percy Jackson) and weirdo armor(Immortals).

I'm not sure any of them really scream as interesting no matter what kind of War you've got going on.

Majik1387
07-01-2012, 07:25 PM
Weirdo armor was best. :o:up:

Clash 2.0 comes in second for me though.

Hamill-Joker
07-02-2012, 01:48 AM
I prefer a more grounded approach to Wonder Woman. Granted mythology will always play a huge part in Wonder Woman, but I think they should hold back from ever going full bore into the Gods having such a heavy part in the film.

There is a line that can be crossed where a Wonder Woman movie can cease to be a superhero movie and simply be a modern Greek mythology movie featuring Wonder Woman, and I don't want to see that happen.

Jordacar
07-02-2012, 11:13 AM
I figure if they make the WW movie right, it's gonna draw a lot of comparisons to Thor. That's not a bad thing, their origin stories just hit a lot of similar beats.

jaymes_e06
07-02-2012, 11:21 AM
^Her modern origin? Yeah, I guess. Her earlier origins, however, are nothing like Thor's.

Airwings
07-02-2012, 12:25 PM
Judging only her appearance in Snow White and nothing else she's done before that - could Kristen work as Diana?
Try to free your mind from any hate you've got for her.
And please respect this post as something serious. Don't behave like eight-year-olds, please.

Jordacar
07-02-2012, 01:17 PM
Looking past the hate, Kristen is way too average and girl-next-door to play an Amazon.

jaymes_e06
07-02-2012, 01:21 PM
I have no hate for her at all just don't think she's a great actress or a good look for the part in general.

Airwings
07-02-2012, 01:24 PM
Looking past the hate, Kristen is way too average and girl-next-door to play an Amazon.
The same can be said about Emily Blunt. But I still want her as WW

jaymes_e06
07-02-2012, 01:47 PM
^I find EB way more glamourus looking than K Stew.

terry78
07-02-2012, 02:58 PM
Neither one of them really has the face for WW, if you know what I mean. Not that they have glaring flaws, but both of them look like you could see them out somewhere at a mall and they wouldn't be out of place.

TheComicbookKid
07-02-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm surprised no one has suggested the guy who directed SW for WW. I mean he has more genre credit and experience than Mark Webb taking over Spidey.

DrCosmic
07-02-2012, 05:21 PM
Judging only her appearance in Snow White and nothing else she's done before that - could Kristen work as Diana?
Try to free your mind from any hate you've got for her.
And please respect this post as something serious. Don't behave like eight-year-olds, please.


Kristen could do it. She looks as attractive as any other random actress, especially when she comes out of goth-mode and opens her eyes. That said, Vin Disel could do a pretty incredible Ares, and Shia Lebouf is a great actor who can easily capture the charm and swag of a Steve Trevor. However... fans have kittens. Scratch that, predatory cats. And not based on acting talent, but simply because they associate these actors with things they don't like - but they will talk like they are talentless hacks and find vague objections of suitability.

But perhaps, like the nu52 Diana, the goodwill from the masses will oversweep the lividity of a few vocal radicals. Kristen's a good actress, with a great range, and while lacking standout features, standout features aren't necessary for an appealing, inspiring, successful Diana. It's as solid a pick, imho, and she has the clout to headline a movie, even an action movie, unlike most actresses given. A much better pick than say, Megan Fox.

Blackman
07-02-2012, 06:31 PM
I think Kirsten Stewart is all wrong for WW and I've liked her in some of her roles, but for Diana she just doesn't fit.

The Boy Scout
07-02-2012, 06:39 PM
Judging only her appearance in Snow White and nothing else she's done before that - could Kristen work as Diana?

Could she? Maybe. But talent aside, I don't think she's a good fit for WW.

KingMadness
07-02-2012, 07:27 PM
Who in the flying **** said Kristen Stewart for WW? Are you out of your vulcan mind?

1) Kristen Stewart is HALF the size Wonder Woman should be.

2) Kristen Stewart.....a warrior? She was laughable in Snow White, and she would be laughable as an Amazonian

3) She doesn't have the WW genuinely pretty face and has acted ditzy in EVERY role she has EVER been in, so she can't be taken seriously as an intelligent person either.

Don't you dare make me show you the youtube video that gloriously illustrates this girls acting range. There is no way you can defend Stewart as WW, you should be ashamed for even suggesting it.

Blackman
07-02-2012, 07:30 PM
^^^...a bit much

also I have seen Stewart act the opposite of ditzy in every role she's in. In fact I think she needs to add some "ditziness" to her character choices and try and be funny for once

KingMadness
07-02-2012, 07:35 PM
A bit too much? Don't you make me pop out the video, don't do it don't you do it.

az824
07-02-2012, 09:04 PM
Who in the flying **** said Kristen Stewart for WW? Are you out of your vulcan mind?

1) Kristen Stewart is HALF the size Wonder Woman should be.

2) Kristen Stewart.....a warrior? She was laughable in Snow White, and she would be laughable as an Amazonian

3) She doesn't have the WW genuinely pretty face and has acted ditzy in EVERY role she has EVER been in, so she can't be taken seriously as an intelligent person either.

Don't you dare make me show you the youtube video that gloriously illustrates this girls acting range. There is no way you can defend Stewart as WW, you should be ashamed for even suggesting it.

I agree with this, it's supposed to be wonder WOMAN, not girl next door. She is all kinds of wrong for Diana. She just does NOT say WW at all, she barely fits for lesser super heroines

The Guard
07-02-2012, 10:00 PM
I'm curious what type of "next door" people live next door to that Kristen Stewart is remotely "girl next door".

Majik1387
07-02-2012, 10:02 PM
Well, not gonna lie, Kristen Stewart kind of is girl next door, there's plenty of girls like her all over Orlando I'll say that much.

With that said, I don't hate her, I've always defended her against haters, but she is entirely wrong for Wonder Woman.

Blackman
07-02-2012, 10:02 PM
Well, not gonna lie, Kristen Stewart kind of is girl next door, there's plenty of girls like her all over Orlando I'll say that much.

With that said, I don't hate her, I've always defended her against haters, but she is entirely wrong for Wonder Woman.

This

The Guard
07-02-2012, 10:04 PM
Yeah, I don't think that's what "girl next door" means.

Blackman
07-02-2012, 10:10 PM
does "girl next door" really need anymore explanation?

The Guard
07-02-2012, 10:14 PM
Kinda, given its accepted meaning. Which, despite the phrase, isn't "The girl next door".

Rockstar
07-02-2012, 10:29 PM
Wonder Woman doesn't look like a corpse and have the body of a ten year old.

Majik1387
07-02-2012, 10:31 PM
Wow, neither does Kristen Stewart, but still, she's not right for Wonder Woman.

Rockstar
07-03-2012, 04:19 AM
Really? I saw her naked scene in On The Road. It wasn't appealling.

Project862006
07-03-2012, 04:49 AM
she does'nt have big boobs

big deal

Eddie Dean
07-03-2012, 08:48 AM
Always count on Rockstar to bring the class!

Blackman
07-03-2012, 09:59 AM
Really? I saw her naked scene in On The Road. It wasn't appealling.

OT: How was that movie?

Airwings
07-03-2012, 03:07 PM
I can imagine Kristen in a WW suit made for the film. Her face and hair seem to fit in with the look, IMO. I think her looks are above the average girl-next-door, but that's just me.
I would very much want to meet the girls Majik1 387 saw in Orlando :)

I guess the Kristen/WW problem lays with the action part. But if Tobey Maguire could build muscles for Spider-Man (he had some god fights there), I think Kristen can too.
Let's wait and see if she will be involved in a fight in the last Twilight sequel.

Rockstar
07-03-2012, 03:54 PM
Alright, Kristen Stewart for Wonder Woman is the last straw.

:doh:

I can't believe someone is giving this serious consideration. It makes Nicolas Cage as Superman look much better.

silenceKILLS
07-03-2012, 07:02 PM
I think that Karen Hassan would be a good pick for Diana, if they go with a more unknown actress.

aNarcHy2day
07-03-2012, 09:06 PM
I'd stick with Gina Carano!

Jordacar
07-04-2012, 12:58 AM
Gina Carano can match the role's physicality more than probably any other candidate, but she's got a long ways to go with the whole acting thing.

aNarcHy2day
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
I get it.
I personally also think she has to work on her voice.

The fact of the matter is some of the other names put forward are also not particularly Shakespearean.
Carano was very decent in Haywire which admittedly was tailor-made for her, a luxury hard to come by down the line as she does more films. But IMO she can only improve.

Jordacar
07-04-2012, 01:53 AM
The fact of the matter is some of the other names put forward are also not particularly Shakespearean.You know one that is? Lynn Collins ;)

silenceKILLS
07-04-2012, 02:05 AM
In the end it will all depend on what age the writer wants her to be and who auditions and who is right for the role. It’s easy for us to say whom we want and how we want the story to be told, but in the end, it’s all about what the screenwriter and the producers want the story to be and what the ages they want her to be. I honestly can’t see any of the names being thrown around here, actually being cast in the film, if the film ever happens. I have prepared myself for being disappointed since my number one pick is stuck as Lady Sif in Marvel and I really cant see them letting Jaimie to Wonder Woman when they refused (this could be WB/DC) her to audition as Lois Lane in the Man of Steel. If or when the time comes, we’ll find and we’ll be disappointed and we’ll trash the actress till the trailer and then we’ll love her. But I do think that all the picks, including Kristen Stewart would all be amazing Wonder Women with the appropriate training, weather it’s acting or gaining mussels, though I personally think Gina is too butch to play Wonder Woman but she’ll make a great Glory or ever a Amazonian Giganta.

aNarcHy2day
07-04-2012, 02:08 AM
Heh!
I was about to add that myself.

She's alright. I'm not that big on her. No particular reason. Maybe because she's 35 but looks even older? I dunno.

aNarcHy2day
07-04-2012, 02:20 AM
I have prepared myself for being disappointed since my number one pick is stuck as Lady Sif in Marvel and I really cant see them letting Jaimie to Wonder Woman when they refused (this could be WB/DC) her to audition as Lois Lane in the Man of Steel.


I don't understand. Didn't Marsden play a role in Superman Returns while he was contracted to play Cyclops? Or was it a Fox thing?

I personally think Gina is too butch to play Wonder Woman
Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Eye of the beholder and all that!

Jordacar
07-04-2012, 09:05 PM
I honestly think there should be a height restriction. No actresses under 5'8". (Sorry K-Stew!)

Majik1387
07-04-2012, 09:11 PM
Well that's just naive and ignorant.

Jordacar
07-04-2012, 09:22 PM
Why? That still leaves tons of good candidates.

The Boy Scout
07-04-2012, 09:38 PM
Why? That still leaves tons of good candidates.

I can see where you're coming from, but you do realize they can use movie magic to make the actress look taller?

That said, I wouldn't go under 5'6 myself.

Isub_Zero
07-05-2012, 04:38 AM
I honestly think there should be a height restriction. No actresses under 5'8". (Sorry K-Stew!)
:up: Definitely! A height limit is a must for :ww:

KingMadness
07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
Gina Carano is the perfect choice.

1) Someone said she is butch?

http://www.mmabay.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/gina-carano.jpg
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/xmas11/carano.jpg
http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&s=gina-carano.jpg
http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/20090825035544_ginacarano.JPG

More like she is out of this world gorgeous.

2) Someone said she doesn't sound like WW? Are you high? She sounds exactly like the WW from JL and JLU. We don't want any barbie doll sounding WW's that we can't take seriously, she needs to have base in her voice.

3) Someone said she can't act? Really now? Wonder Woman doesn't really need to do much acting, Lynda Carter wasn't doing extraordinary acting in her series and neither was the voice actor for JL/JLU.

All a WW actress needs to do is exude a certain confidence (which Gina has no doubt), be able to act fierce (Gina would be able to do this best of any actress right now), and show hints of vulnerability with Trevor and adjusting to the outside world (not exactly a broadway musical).

Jordacar
07-05-2012, 05:40 PM
3) Someone said she can't act? Really now? Wonder Woman doesn't really need to do much acting:wall:

Blackman
07-05-2012, 05:46 PM
:wall:

I concur with this headbanging.

I think opinions like that are why we get s***ty actresses in lead roles. It's a really bad mentality to have

KingMadness
07-05-2012, 07:09 PM
Some roles require good actresses to convey a wide spectrum of feelings and emotions. If you ever read a comic book, or even watched the live action series or JL/JLU, the three main things WW needs to convey is confidence, fierceness, and compassion. Gina Carano can do the first two better than anybody, and I think thats the most important aspect of Wonder Woman's character.

At the end of the day, she is a warrior and that's going to be her main focus in her movies and in her Justice League team ups. If we get some boney ass girl that can act, or some frilly girl that can act, what happens when their fight scenes look fake and terrible? An Amazonian that can't fight convincingly? Your screwed.

You guys also forget Gina is far from a bad actor. You don't need to be damn oscar worthy to do this role, you need to be FIERCE.

Dark Raven
07-05-2012, 08:04 PM
Gina Carano is the perfect choice.

1) Someone said she is butch?

http://www.mmabay.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/gina-carano.jpg
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/xmas11/carano.jpg
http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&s=gina-carano.jpg
http://www1.cdn.sherdog.com/image_crop/200/300/_images/fighter/20090825035544_ginacarano.JPG

More like she is out of this world gorgeous.

2) Someone said she doesn't sound like WW? Are you high? She sounds exactly like the WW from JL and JLU. We don't want any barbie doll sounding WW's that we can't take seriously, she needs to have base in her voice.

3) Someone said she can't act? Really now? Wonder Woman doesn't really need to do much acting, Lynda Carter wasn't doing extraordinary acting in her series and neither was the voice actor for JL/JLU.

All a WW actress needs to do is exude a certain confidence (which Gina has no doubt), be able to act fierce (Gina would be able to do this best of any actress right now), and show hints of vulnerability with Trevor and adjusting to the outside world (not exactly a broadway musical).

Gina Carano is:

1) Butch
2) Doesn't sound like WW
3) Can't act.

:cwink:

ЯɘvlveR
07-05-2012, 08:15 PM
carano is my favorite choice as well. lol at her being butch.

aNarcHy2day
07-05-2012, 09:44 PM
See, I dunno how she's butch. She won't win a beauty pageant just like she won't win an Oscar for acting (anytime soon, anyway) but I think she's quite pretty without being Barbie Doll-ish and she isn't butch, either. And did decent work on Haywire. Look, we aren't saying just bring any wrestler or MMA fighter for the role because they look the part. Carano's name has come up because she showed promise in her movie.

I do agree though, that she sounds strange and has to work on her voice.

ЯɘvlveR
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
she's not. the woman is a proper amazon. tallish, thick and sturdy, a bit androgynous, and she can fight. i mean christian bale is this acclaimed actor and he can't even get the ****ing voice right. doesn't stop the circle jerks for him as bats.


my non actress choice would be model hilary rhoda. i think she's perfect physically. 5-11, pretty athletic, and drop dead gorgeous. she's talked about acting, but she hasn't done anything yet.

http://greenobles.com/data_images/hilary-rhoda/hilary-rhoda-02.jpg

Hamill-Joker
07-06-2012, 12:23 AM
Who is the actress equivalent to Robert Downey Jr.? Not in terms of personality, but like a dynamic actor with great charisma.

Jordacar
07-06-2012, 12:24 AM
I'd be trying to find the actress equivalent of Chris Hemsworth, since WW has way more in common with Thor than she does with Stark.

Project862006
07-06-2012, 07:07 AM
still like Gemma Artreton:yay:

26 yrs old
5'7
very good actress
http://oi50.tinypic.com/dvrdx2.jpg
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9280490/p/Gemma--Arteton-x_2226626a.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gemma+Arterton+Burberry+Spring+Summer+2012+-1telNh_Ur2l.jpg
http://oi47.tinypic.com/25qx82s.jpg

K'Prime
07-06-2012, 12:16 PM
should probably go to a fairly unknown actress that has theater experience so nobody sees her as anyone else but Diana

ЯɘvlveR
07-06-2012, 02:03 PM
another name someone had mentioned is phoebe tonkin. good god is that woman gorgeous. god bless australia. she's got the voice for it too. she's what? 5-8? no way she's 5-10.


http://rikkicleobella.webs.com/photos/Phoebe-Tonkin---IF-Awards-Nominations-Party/625x3937.jpg

TheComicbookKid
07-06-2012, 05:32 PM
another name someone had mentioned is phoebe tonkin. good god is that woman gorgeous. god bless australia. she's got the voice for it too. she's what? 5-8? no way she's 5-10.


She's definitely beautiful, but the odds aren't in her favor.

Her acting is (nicely put) not so good. Plus, she would follow in the long line of WB/CW series disappointing actressses. Kate Bosworth, Katie Holmes, and Blake Lively.

So I'm going to get ahead of this one and give it the old Caesar's thumbs down.

Majik1387
07-06-2012, 05:42 PM
Blake Lively wasn't disappointing.

TheComicbookKid
07-06-2012, 05:48 PM
Katie Holmes returned to play...oh right
Green Lantern 2 starts filming... oh right
Superman Returns sequel started...

I'm not saying the movie's failings were all their fault. Point is that WB has a history of casting leads from their tv farming system and it didn't work out any any way.

Majik1387
07-06-2012, 05:52 PM
Only reason Holmes was recast was because of Tom Cruise getting involved. As much as I dislike her, she was just overshadowed by the rest of the cast.

Dark Raven
07-06-2012, 05:54 PM
If TDK were made now, Katie might've done it because who is Tom now to tell her what to do?

ЯɘvlveR
07-06-2012, 05:59 PM
She's definitely beautiful, but the odds aren't in her favor.

Her acting is (nicely put) not so good. Plus, she would follow in the long line of WB/CW series disappointing actressses. Kate Bosworth, Katie Holmes, and Blake Lively.

So I'm going to get ahead of this one and give it the old Caesar's thumbs down.

:lmao:

I've never really seen much of that tv show, just a scene with her and that czylka dude, which is why i didn't think she was 5-10 since he's supposed 5-9. with that said, I'd say she could improve between now and the time that they cast the role. she's really young.

as far as katie i thought the jfk series was what prevented her from doing tdk?

Jordacar
07-06-2012, 06:02 PM
That JFK series was way later.

Anyway, Tonkin was undoubtedly the best part of "Secret Circle". While that doesn't sound like much, I think I'd be open minded if her name came up as a viable candidate. And I don't buy she's 5'10" either.

Majik1387
07-06-2012, 06:02 PM
:lmao:

I've never really seen much of that tv show, just a scene with her and that czylka dude, which is why i didn't think she was 5-10 since he's supposed 5-9. with that said, I'd say she could improve between now and the time that they cast the role. she's really young.

as far as katie i thought the jfk series was what prevented her from doing tdk?
No, she chose to do the movie Mad Money over TDK after constant prodding from Cruise.

TheComicbookKid
07-06-2012, 06:02 PM
Only reason Holmes was recast was because of Tom Cruise getting involved. As much as I dislike her, she was just overshadowed by the rest of the cast.

I was fine with her in Begins. I have more problem with Nolan's women in general, but like you said, she was overshadowed cause she hasn't gained the experience to bring something to the material that isn't there like Freeman or Caine can.

I do think Bosworth, Holmes, and Lively are decent. Each have movies under their belts with critical praise, but just like casting WW, there is a certain "je ne sais pas" to being able to bring a sense of clarity to these kinds of broad roles.


That Tonkin's young lady can't even control her accent.

COMPO
07-06-2012, 06:38 PM
still like Gemma Artreton:yay:

26 yrs old
5'7
very good actress
http://oi50.tinypic.com/dvrdx2.jpg
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9280490/p/Gemma--Arteton-x_2226626a.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gemma+Arterton+Burberry+Spring+Summer+2012+-1telNh_Ur2l.jpg
http://oi47.tinypic.com/25qx82s.jpg

To be honest, that choice is quite interesting, she is a good actress and unknown. I just don't know if she could do Wonder Woman but then people said that about Chris Evans. I'd be curious to see this.

However, the poster above has says that Wonder Woman doesn't need someone who can act or to some degree. She is more than a warrior. Diana is a ambassador, meaning that she is quiet intelligent not only in warrior tactics but also in politics and has also wrote a book. Also, she is a very compassionate person. So I feel that we need a actress whom can be strong not just in a phsyical sense but also show an intellectual and compassionate side to her as well.

jaymes_e06
07-06-2012, 09:05 PM
Gemma's growing on me as well. Mother approved :up:

KingMadness
07-06-2012, 10:13 PM
To be honest, that choice is quite interesting, she is a good actress and unknown. I just don't know if she could do Wonder Woman but then people said that about Chris Evans. I'd be curious to see this.

However, the poster above has says that Wonder Woman doesn't need someone who can act or to some degree. She is more than a warrior. Diana is a ambassador, meaning that she is quiet intelligent not only in warrior tactics but also in politics and has also wrote a book. Also, she is a very compassionate person. So I feel that we need a actress whom can be strong not just in a phsyical sense but also show an intellectual and compassionate side to her as well.

Go watch Gina Carano in any interview, the girl is an absolute doll, very lovely woman. Then go watch her in the ring, fierce as all hell. That's why I feel Gina is perfect for Wonder Woman. Compassionate is no problem for her. Gina could fiercely pull off the fighting and war strategist side of intellectual, but I did not consider the ambassador side of it, you may be right. She would have to work on that.

ЯɘvlveR
07-06-2012, 11:02 PM
regardless of who gets the role i think you need to get some big time supporting players in this film to carry it. kinda like nolan's batman had all those stalwart actors in it.

The Boy Scout
07-06-2012, 11:04 PM
another name someone had mentioned is phoebe tonkin.

No. Just...no.

ЯɘvlveR
07-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Go watch Gina Carano in any interview, the girl is an absolute doll, very lovely woman. Then go watch her in the ring, fierce as all hell. That's why I feel Gina is perfect for Wonder Woman. Compassionate is no problem for her. Gina could fiercely pull off the fighting and war strategist side of intellectual, but I did not consider the ambassador side of it, you may be right. She would have to work on that.



http://gifs.gifbin.com/062009/reverse-1244541171_gina-carano2.gif

ЯɘvlveR
07-06-2012, 11:08 PM
No. Just...no.

yeah. relax.

Majik1387
07-06-2012, 11:10 PM
I know the Phoebe Tonkin and Hilary Rhoda suggestions can't be serious.They just can't be.

The Boy Scout
07-06-2012, 11:21 PM
yeah. relax.

Um...I am relaxed.

ЯɘvlveR
07-06-2012, 11:52 PM
I know the Phoebe Tonkin and Hilary Rhoda suggestions can't be serious.They just can't be.

and if they are, what?

my choice is carano. i throw two other names out for ****s and giggles. not once did i try to legitimize either of them as actresses, but i know that didn't matter to you. good job with the manips by the way, im sure wb is calling you for your suggestions. lol.



Um...I am relaxed.

sure seemed like the suggestion was enough for you to throw a fit.

The Boy Scout
07-07-2012, 12:47 AM
sure seemed like the suggestion was enough for you to throw a fit.

If you really believe that, then I don't think you really know what it means to "throw a fit." Or what it looks like. :o

batdude
07-07-2012, 01:36 AM
Tonkin sure looks the part. She may not be a good enough actress though.

TheComicbookKid
07-07-2012, 07:47 AM
You know what I find weird about the HYPE is that despite the fact we have members from many parts of the world, you never see them suggest people,we in America, haven't seen somewhere our media with mass exposure(Gemma or Phoebe).

I'd love to see someone suggest Claire Foy for Wasp or insert non-Monica Bellucci Italian actress for Hippolyta.

terry78
07-07-2012, 09:18 AM
You know what I find weird about the HYPE is that despite the fact we have members from many parts of the world, you never see them suggest people,we in America, haven't seen somewhere our media with mass exposure(Gemma or Phoebe).

I'd love to see someone suggest Claire Foy for Wasp or insert non-Monica Bellucci Italian actress for Hippolyta.

Well, the board is still majorly American for the most part. That's just how it is.

ЯɘvlveR
07-07-2012, 10:59 AM
You know what I find weird about the HYPE is that despite the fact we have members from many parts of the world, you never see them suggest people,we in America, haven't seen somewhere our media with mass exposure(Gemma or Phoebe).

I'd love to see someone suggest Claire Foy for Wasp or insert non-Monica Bellucci Italian actress for Hippolyta.

i suggested caterina murino for wondy a while back. how about her for wondy's mom?

ЯɘvlveR
07-07-2012, 11:30 AM
blanca soto is another actress I'd mention. she's a mexican novela actress not sure if anyone has mentioned her.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kCpzbJRI_wo/T3trlcZZcXI/AAAAAAABA2E/MHyOBAOuTTE/s400/Blanca%2BSoto2.jpg


she's 5-10. gorgeous, not sure about her accent or her acting credits though.

http://youtu.be/62Bzb5Y1JhI (http://youtu.be/62Bzb5Y1JhI)

TheComicbookKid
07-07-2012, 12:18 PM
i suggested caterina murino for wondy a while back. how about her for wondy's mom?

The Bond Girl?

Nah, she's a little too young for Hippolyta unless WW's like 18. Otherwise they'd look like sisters on screen.

The immortal thing works in comics but in real life people age over the course of 3 movies(Tobey Mcguire. Bale.) There probably should be some distance in age of the actresses.

Jordacar
07-07-2012, 12:21 PM
The amazons are all a lot older than they look. I figure Diana and Hippolyta's actresses should be 15 years apart, minimum.

ЯɘvlveR
07-07-2012, 12:32 PM
The Bond Girl?

Nah, she's a little too young for Hippolyta unless WW's like 18. Otherwise they'd look like sisters on screen.

The immortal thing works in comics but in real life people age over the course of 3 movies(Tobey Mcguire. Bale.) There probably should be some distance in age of the actresses.

that makes sense.

Joker's Lackey
07-07-2012, 12:33 PM
http://cdn.blogs.sheknows.com/celebsalon.sheknows.com//2010/09/robin-wright-hair.jpg

How about Robin Wright as WW mom?

TheComicbookKid
07-07-2012, 12:40 PM
I like that choice.


Though I'd put Hippolyta being blonde.

Joker's Lackey
07-07-2012, 12:47 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgtOvjslYs3YRXZG9Sek85PEnEicLsL x4XhjmU5cIyHpVkTXtf

Here ya go :)

Jordacar
07-07-2012, 12:47 PM
I like that choice.


Though I'd put Hippolyta being blonde.http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4356/robinwrighthairstyle.jpg

BAM! :woot:

Joker's Lackey
07-07-2012, 12:48 PM
hahahaha

TheComicbookKid
07-07-2012, 12:49 PM
After seeing the cover of JL with the NuCheetah, it reminded me of that chick from Hellboy. If Cheetah were used, I doubt they'd do the woman in a cheetah outfit, so how inhuman should she look?

I think they can do it without going full CGI Lizard territory.

http://t.imgbox.com/aarlAL4L.jpg (http://imgbox.com/aarlAL4L)

TheComicbookKid
07-07-2012, 12:54 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgtOvjslYs3YRXZG9Sek85PEnEicLsL x4XhjmU5cIyHpVkTXtf

Here ya go :)


LOL. She looks better as a brunette.

Jordacar
07-07-2012, 03:40 PM
Really? I think she looks better as a blonde.

Awhile ago I remember seeing an interview Adrianne Palicki (from the failed WW pilot) saying that Robin Wright in The Princess Bride made her want to be an actress. If Palicki got another shot for the movie, and Wright played Hippolyta...that'd be pretty damn cool. For her at least. :word:

Red Mask
07-07-2012, 06:30 PM
http://gifs.gifbin.com/062009/reverse-1244541171_gina-carano2.gif

I finally watched "Haywire". The story wasn't very interesting. But Gina performed very well for her first lead role. I think she could play Diana.

ЯɘvlveR
07-07-2012, 06:49 PM
I finally watched "Haywire". The story wasn't very interesting. But Gina performed very well for her first lead role. I think she could play Diana.

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ed5cw3.jpg

Project862006
07-07-2012, 06:53 PM
i love gina but i worry some of you don't care about acting with her constant suggestion

ЯɘvlveR
07-07-2012, 08:11 PM
i hope its a silent movie obviously. who's your choice?

KingMadness
07-07-2012, 10:25 PM
Um sorry but Hyppolyta should either be Lucy Lawless, the warrior princess, or Wonder Woman herself Linda Carter. Anybody else is meh unless its top notch like Meryl Streep.

Project862006
07-07-2012, 11:15 PM
i hope its a silent movie obviously. who's your choice?
Gemma Artreton

tall enough - 5'7
young enough for origin story and sequels - 26 years old
acting - i wont have to worry about acting because she is a good actress
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9280490/p/Gemma--Arteton-x_2226626a.jpg
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Gemma-Arterton3_1.jpg

Red Mask
07-08-2012, 05:09 AM
i love gina but i worry some of you don't care about acting with her constant suggestion

Playing an Amazon Princess in the modern world? Naw, that's not a problem. As long as they can have fun with it, I don't expect much from the movie.

Bruce_Begins
07-08-2012, 06:03 AM
Marvel Studios gives more weight age to acting talent than looks which is a good approach.

To cast just based on looks may result in another failure for DC, something that should be avoided.

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 01:31 PM
Gemma Artreton

tall enough - 5'7
young enough for origin story and sequels - 26 years old
acting - i wont have to worry about acting because she is a good actress
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG9280490/p/Gemma--Arteton-x_2226626a.jpg
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Gemma-Arterton3_1.jpg

i like her as well, but while i think she's a good actress, I don't think the talent gap between her and carano is as wide as you might think. gemma's been in more things so we've got a better feel for her as an actor, but i wouldn't put it past carano to do well in this role.

DrCosmic
07-08-2012, 01:53 PM
We've seen her in more things because she acts for a living, instead of fighting for a living and acting on the side. As far as we know, Arterton is a far superior actress, though I suppose you can hope that Carano is a better actress than we know. -shrug- (Edit: For laughs, reverse that... "Gemma Arterton did okay in her first fight, so... perhaps there's not as big a gap between Gina and Gemma's fighting skill as you might think.")

I'm also a big fan of Lucy Lawless for Hippolyta. It doesn't hurt that the stunt casting is actually for a brilliant actress. Carter's too old to look like an immortal though.

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 03:16 PM
you'd have a point if she did have a fight under her belt. alas, she doesn't so you don't.

gina hasn't fought in 3 years, and is slated to star in two films next. so much for that fighting for a living and acting on the side bit. :dry:

regardless, i wouldn't act like i had a stick up my ass if they picked gemma. she'd be a really good choice. I'm looking forward to seeing her in that jeff buckley biopic.

Rodrigo90
07-08-2012, 03:21 PM
I'm also a big fan of Lucy Lawless for Hippolyta.

Is Lucy still going to jail?

I'd like Charlize Theron to be Hippolyta, that's if Lucy does go down :p

Red Mask
07-08-2012, 05:19 PM
We've seen her in more things because she acts for a living, instead of fighting for a living and acting on the side. As far as we know, Arterton is a far superior actress, though I suppose you can hope that Carano is a better actress than we know. -shrug- (Edit: For laughs, reverse that... "Gemma Arterton did okay in her first fight, so... perhaps there's not as big a gap between Gina and Gemma's fighting skill as you might think.")

I'm also a big fan of Lucy Lawless for Hippolyta. It doesn't hurt that the stunt casting is actually for a brilliant actress. Carter's too old to look like an immortal though.

So is Bill Nighy when he played Hephaestus.

Project862006
07-08-2012, 09:02 PM
i like her as well, but while i think she's a good actress, I don't think the talent gap between her and carano is as wide as you might think. gemma's been in more things so we've got a better feel for her as an actor, but i wouldn't put it past carano to do well in this role.
:dry:WHAT lol

gina was so bad they had to dub another voice for her in haywire lol

it's like comparing randy couture to rdj lol

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 09:21 PM
oh brother.yeah gemma's the female equivalent of rdj. :whatever:

Majik1387
07-08-2012, 09:21 PM
Compared to Carano, she is.

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 09:36 PM
and you're a regular steven spielberg.

http://i50.tinypic.com/30vlmc8.gif

Majik1387
07-08-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm saying this as someone who understands that WB would seriously be looking at her. To try and compare her acting ability to Gemma is just plain naive.

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 09:53 PM
they're actors who might actually be up for the same part so comparing acting ability would not be "naive." it would be logical. naive would be to think that wb would give two ****s who you or i'd think should be cast in the role.

if you're gonna be smug about something, at least try to make sense.

Red Mask
07-08-2012, 10:02 PM
Gemma is not on Downey Jr's level. She'll need another ten more years to catch up.

Hal Jordan
07-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Why not take a stage actor, not a model, not a commercial actor, but a stage actor with a little experience. An actress who has the right height, the right look of Wonder Woman and work with her, get her acting abilities up to par, get her in a 6 month training program, work with her in every single way and when you're ready to shoot after those 6 months, you have Wonder Woman.

They did this with Chris Reeve for Superman, talk about being at the right place at the right time, as well as Lynn Stalmaster the casting director seeing something in him, we got the perfect Superman. A skinny kid, but they got him into the gym and they worked with him.

The same can be done for Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. Don't just pick somebody who doesn't want to go the distance to bring her character to life on the screen. They have to make her look believeable as a tough as nails Amazonian, just as Chris Reeve made you believe a man could fly and actually was built, so does Wonder Woman to a certain degree of course.

Go with a nobody with stage acting on their resume. They are the best and know their craft.

Project862006
07-08-2012, 11:39 PM
not trying to compare her to downey just that saying the acting difference between the 2 is not big is just a flat out lie she has been acting for 5 years and actually did theater work so to compare her to an mma fighter with 1 movie to her record and it was a mindless action film to boot is quite ridiculous

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 11:48 PM
it would ridiculous to compare the two if gina went onto something else that was ACTING. they're both actors. one's been in it a little longer. and lol at "she's been acting for 5 years." I'd hazard to say that she'd been doing it for longer then that (she must have been training) but the fact that you tried to make that the point of legitimacy for her as a thespian is hilarious. 5 years!? meryl streep better watch her ass. gemma's coming for you!

Project862006
07-08-2012, 11:55 PM
yes i am sure gina's next performance in fast and the furious 6 should challenge this thespian's acting range

ЯɘvlveR
07-08-2012, 11:57 PM
Why not take a stage actor, not a model, not a commercial actor, but a stage actor with a little experience. An actress who has the right height, the right look of Wonder Woman and work with her, get her acting abilities up to par, get her in a 6 month training program, work with her in every single way and when you're ready to shoot after those 6 months, you have Wonder Woman.

They did this with Chris Reeve for Superman, talk about being at the right place at the right time, as well as Lynn Stalmaster the casting director seeing something in him, we got the perfect Superman. A skinny kid, but they got him into the gym and they worked with him.

The same can be done for Diana Prince/Wonder Woman. Don't just pick somebody who doesn't want to go the distance to bring her character to life on the screen. They have to make her look believeable as a tough as nails Amazonian, just as Chris Reeve made you believe a man could fly and actually was built, so does Wonder Woman to a certain degree of course.

Go with a nobody with stage acting on their resume. They are the best and know their craft.

obviously we should expect that wb leave no stone unturned if they want this to work, and finding the best possible actor for this role has to be one of their top priorities, but i think it all boils down to selling it to the masses. there are few actors that can drive these sort of vehicles, and even fewer female actors that can. like charlize theron for instance.

while she maybe 36, she's got just about all of the attributes you'd want in an actor for a project of this magnitude. she actually be WB's answer to RDJ. :oldrazz:

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 12:01 AM
yes i am sure gina's next performance in fast and the furious 6 should challenge this thespian's acting range

if its good enough for the rock, its good enough for gina. don't see anyone *****ing about him possibly being lobo.

apparently, its not enough that i say, gemma would be a good choice, i have to drop any semblance of an opinion because it doesn't subscribe to the train of thought that some of you dip****s have.

Majik1387
07-09-2012, 12:04 AM
Because the Rock has a charisma and he actually has done a number of movies to find his niche and to build his resume. Carano didn't have people rushing to see Haywire.

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 12:42 AM
you need to get some sleep. stop burning the midnight oil making all those manips, its affecting your cognitive reasoning.

nobody is disparaging the rock as an actor, numbnuts over there tried to put down fast and the furious as a franchise by implying that it would be below someone like gemma in comparison to gina.

surely, its no byzantium, cause of course, vampire films are artistically so against the grain from what we've been getting from hollywood. :whatever:

Project862006
07-09-2012, 12:54 AM
Byzantium is actually directed by neil jordan so yes it is something better

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 01:11 AM
of course it will, cause you have a time traveling delorean. tell me, was it as good as spielberg's war of the worlds?

Project862006
07-09-2012, 01:17 AM
why you so upset bro?

because we arent supporting an mma fighter for a super hero sorry unlike you and red mask we care about acting and not saying the cop out answer well it's just WW i dont think we need great acting:whatever:

aNarcHy2day
07-09-2012, 02:43 AM
Seriously, Revlver... why ARE you so upset?

See, I think I was the first, at least in this chain, to mention Gina (and I think I did a huge favour since this thread was going towards KStew picking the role up!) and I still want Gina as Wondy. But all the other people are entitled to their opinions without the risk of someone bursting an artery in anger. So, please dude...

Back to the thread...

I like Gemma, yes. Acting for five years and all but I just can't see a Wonder Woman in there. Maybe she will surprise me. I dunno. And yes. Gemma is a better actor than Gina but we haven't given Gina enough of a chance to prove herself, I believe. Also, Gemma's no RDJ. I think they are looking at Cavill to be their RDJ. Gemma or anyone (still hope its Gina) who gets the WW role would probably have to be the Scarlet Witch or something. Not that daunting now, is it?

Red Mask
07-09-2012, 05:42 AM
I saw Gemma in Clash of the Titans. It was a good thing she didn't come back in the sequel.

Red Mask
07-09-2012, 05:43 AM
obviously we should expect that wb leave no stone unturned if they want this to work, and finding the best possible actor for this role has to be one of their top priorities, but i think it all boils down to selling it to the masses.

Expect nothing. They've been working on it for years now. What makes the recent news of a new writer any different?

Crazy Flakes
07-09-2012, 09:29 AM
I think the current WW project will fall flat, just like all of the others have. They chose an awful writer and if it doesn't get stuck in development hell (which will most likely happen) it'll probably be a half-assed job that tanks at the box office a la Green Lantern. But what concerns me the most is that the studio will probably see it as a sign that female-led superhero movies can't have box office success. Wonder Woman is my absolute favorite superhero and it's a damn shame that the studios' own blindness and greediness will never allow for a good WW movie to happen.

TheComicbookKid
07-09-2012, 09:37 AM
I'm going to be optimistic and say history repeats itself. Kelley's version was the 21st century version of the Crosby pilot and the next iteration will be the well-received version of Carter.

KingMadness
07-09-2012, 09:57 AM
SINCE WHEN DID GEMMA ARTENTON BECOME MERYL STREEP?

You guys act like Gemma is this great actress, yeah okay pal if you like her then you like her but don't make her better than she is. She's not better than some of the other decent actresses out there.

1) Can Gemma act as fierce as Gina? Hell to the no.
2) Can Gemma act as confident as Gina? Hell to the no.
3) Can Gemma fight as good as Gina? Hell to the no.
4) Does Gemma sound like a goddamn barbie doll? Hell to the yes.
5) Does Gina sound very similar to the actress who voice acted Wonder Woman in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited? Hell to the yes.

Susan Eisenberg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtboLKri9A

Gina Carano's voice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOTkWff_ZFw&feature=watch_response

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 10:49 AM
Seriously, Revlver... why ARE you so upset?

See, I think I was the first, at least in this chain, to mention Gina (and I think I did a huge favour since this thread was going towards KStew picking the role up!) and I still want Gina as Wondy. But all the other people are entitled to their opinions without the risk of someone bursting an artery in anger. So, please dude...

Back to the thread...

I like Gemma, yes. Acting for five years and all but I just can't see a Wonder Woman in there. Maybe she will surprise me. I dunno. And yes. Gemma is a better actor than Gina but we haven't given Gina enough of a chance to prove herself, I believe. Also, Gemma's no RDJ. I think they are looking at Cavill to be their RDJ. Gemma or anyone (still hope its Gina) who gets the WW role would probably have to be the Scarlet Witch or something. Not that daunting now, is it?

why am i being asked why I'm upset? some of these guys get to be passive aggressively dickish, but i don't get to? i haven't derided anyone's choice in any of these forums. in fact, its been quite the opposite actually.

did i not say gemma would be a good choice?

just because i don't sound like an idiot in comparison to some of these deluded, cognitively challenged snobs doesn't mean I'm being a tool for the sake of being a tool. if they were a little more respectful in tone, they'd get respect, since they're not, they can go **** themselves.

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 11:02 AM
I think the current WW project will fall flat, just like all of the others have. They chose an awful writer and if it doesn't get stuck in development hell (which will most likely happen) it'll probably be a half-assed job that tanks at the box office a la Green Lantern. But what concerns me the most is that the studio will probably see it as a sign that female-led superhero movies can't have box office success. Wonder Woman is my absolute favorite superhero and it's a damn shame that the studios' own blindness and greediness will never allow for a good WW movie to happen.

yeah. you'd think they'd learn from their past mistakes. because of what we know of dc, i think the best we could hope for is for the actor chosen in the lead role to be someone with the chops and the name to be able to carry it (like charlize theron) and hope that they exercise due diligence in a sequel.

KingMadness
07-09-2012, 11:08 AM
I think the current WW project will fall flat, just like all of the others have. They chose an awful writer and if it doesn't get stuck in development hell (which will most likely happen) it'll probably be a half-assed job that tanks at the box office a la Green Lantern. But what concerns me the most is that the studio will probably see it as a sign that female-led superhero movies can't have box office success. Wonder Woman is my absolute favorite superhero and it's a damn shame that the studios' own blindness and greediness will never allow for a good WW movie to happen.

Completely agree with you. The biggest omen was getting one of the guys who wrote for Green Lantern the travesty to write for Wonder Woman. My God, they've learned nothing.

Also one last thing on Gemma "Meryl Streep" Artenton

She was atrocious in gems such as Clash of the Titans and Prince of Persia, I've actually never seen her act good, and I've never seen her in a good movie.

Jordacar
07-09-2012, 02:39 PM
I'd like to bring up Abbie Cornish for WW. She was the only one of the Sucker Punch ladies who actually looked formidable.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6131/abbiecornish11.jpg

And if WB wants this to be their answer to Thor, they could do worse.

Project862006
07-09-2012, 05:15 PM
SINCE WHEN DID GEMMA ARTENTON BECOME MERYL STREEP?

You guys act like Gemma is this great actress, yeah okay pal if you like her then you like her but don't make her better than she is. She's not better than some of the other decent actresses out there.

1) Can Gemma act as fierce as Gina? Hell to the no.
2) Can Gemma act as confident as Gina? Hell to the no.
3) Can Gemma fight as good as Gina? Hell to the no.
4) Does Gemma sound like a goddamn barbie doll? Hell to the yes.
5) Does Gina sound very similar to the actress who voice acted Wonder Woman in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited? Hell to the yes.

Susan Eisenberg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtboLKri9A

Gina Carano's voice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOTkWff_ZFw&feature=watch_response
lololol

wow why not just get some female wrestler then

seriously do you people not even care about acting at all??:dry:

since all it seems you care about is how tough she looked and how she can fight who gives a damn if she can emote lol

Crazy Flakes
07-09-2012, 05:30 PM
What I find quite striking is that it seems as though most of the Wonder Woman suggestions thus far have been based on who would look like Wonder Woman (or, better yet, who would look attractive in a leotard). You would never see that in a casting thread for a male superhero. I don't care if the actress is 5', 200 lbs, and Asian as long as she has the charm, charisma, strength, and dedication to pull off the role. And you can't understate the importance of having a good supporting cast - what draws me to Wonder Woman's lore is that it emphasizes the importance of female bonds, and the other Amazons should be cast accordingly and play a large part in the film.

And besides, DC just needs to take a step back from live action films and stick with animated films until it can get its **** together. Save for Nolan's Batman franchise every single DC live action film for the past decade or two has been crap, and I doubt upcoming films like MoS will break that mold. And with Geoff Johns as DC's creative consultant I'm very pessimistic about future DC projects, but then again, I'll find any excuse to bash Geoff Johns.

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 05:31 PM
I'd like to bring up Abbie Cornish for WW. She was the only one of the Sucker Punch ladies who actually looked formidable.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6131/abbiecornish11.jpg

And if WB wants this to be their answer to Thor, they could do worse.

she'd be a good choice, though i think she'd have the same problem that some might have with charlize in that, she doesn't look like a natural brunette. some darker brows my change that.

KingMadness
07-09-2012, 05:49 PM
lololol

wow why not just get some female wrestler then

seriously do you people not even care about acting at all??:dry:

since all it seems you care about is how tough she looked and how she can fight who gives a damn if she can emote lol

How much emoting did Lynda Carter have to do? How much emoting did the WW from JL and JLU have to do? The most she ever has to do is either be compassionate, or flirt with Trevor and that's not hard. Wonder Woman isn't like most girls who are highly emotional, or cry, or are nuts, Wonder Woman is a pretty fierce and stern woman who has a tender core. Your not gonna see her acting all emotional unless she is angry.

Red Mask
07-09-2012, 05:50 PM
Why not her sister instead? Isabelle Cornish.

Crazy Flakes
07-09-2012, 06:01 PM
How much emoting did Lynda Carter have to do? How much emoting did the WW from JL and JLU have to do? The most she ever has to do is either be compassionate, or flirt with Trevor and that's not hard. Wonder Woman isn't like most girls who are highly emotional, or cry, or are nuts, Wonder Woman is a pretty fierce and stern woman who has a tender core. Your not gonna see her acting all emotional unless she is angry.

First of all, that comment on "most girls" is so offensive on so many levels.

Secondly, the beauty of Wonder Woman is that she is like "most girls." Unlike many male superheroes whose "strength" is shown through either being emotionless or being aggressive, Diana shows her emotions. She's empathetic, emotional, and compassionate. That is what makes her strong and that is the core of her character.

There are so few writers who can do Diana justice because of this - they equate strength with traits that are considered masculine and they make Diana into a shallow, emotionless, hotheaded, one-dimensional sexbot. Great writers like Greg Rucka show Wonder Woman as a multi-dimensional, passionate, and, yes, emotional character. I just hope they can portray her in film, but seeing as so few writers can truly capture her I doubt a popular superhero screenwriter would pull it off.

ЯɘvlveR
07-09-2012, 06:07 PM
Why not her sister instead? Isabelle Cornish.

any ideas as to how tall she is? she looks a lot more like the sterotypical diana.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/07/05/1226418/291346-isabelle-cornish.jpg

her features are a little rounder then abbie's.

a little video of abbie, to give you a feel for ambassador diana.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/isabelle-cornish-to-follow-older-sister-actress-abbie-cornish-by-signing-with-us-talent-agency-united/story-e6frewz0-1226418291370

Project862006
07-09-2012, 06:08 PM
she looks too young like 18 years old lol

MarvelKnight
07-09-2012, 06:17 PM
How much emoting did Lynda Carter have to do? How much emoting did the WW from JL and JLU have to do? The most she ever has to do is either be compassionate, or flirt with Trevor and that's not hard. Wonder Woman isn't like most girls who are highly emotional, or cry, or are nuts, Wonder Woman is a pretty fierce and stern woman who has a tender core. Your not gonna see her acting all emotional unless she is angry.

The best emotion I've seen from WW in the JL toon days was when she thought Superman died in Hereafter. Never seen such an intense saddening anger than that.

WW to Toyman: "I'm going to Punch a Hole..in your head"
Flash: We don't do that
WW: Speak for yourself
Flash: I'm trying to speak for Superman.

Great fricking sequence. WW is the beez-kneez in the JL

TheComicbookKid
07-09-2012, 06:43 PM
What I find quite striking is that it seems as though most of the Wonder Woman suggestions thus far have been based on who would look like Wonder Woman (or, better yet, who would look attractive in a leotard). You would never see that in a casting thread for a male superhero. I don't care if the actress is 5', 200 lbs, and Asian as long as she has the charm, charisma, strength, and dedication to pull off the role. And you can't understate the importance of having a good supporting cast - what draws me to Wonder Woman's lore is that it emphasizes the importance of female bonds, and the other Amazons should be cast accordingly and play a large part in the film.


You crazy.

No other time in superhero fandom do you hear/read more post about guys talking about another man's physique except when a new superhero movie is being cast. Superman's necessary height, some guy's manly jawline. That guy's abs aren't beefy enough.

KingMadness
07-09-2012, 07:06 PM
First of all, that comment on "most girls" is so offensive on so many levels.

Secondly, the beauty of Wonder Woman is that she is like "most girls." Unlike many male superheroes whose "strength" is shown through either being emotionless or being aggressive, Diana shows her emotions. She's empathetic, emotional, and compassionate. That is what makes her strong and that is the core of her character.

There are so few writers who can do Diana justice because of this - they equate strength with traits that are considered masculine and they make Diana into a shallow, emotionless, hotheaded, one-dimensional sexbot. Great writers like Greg Rucka show Wonder Woman as a multi-dimensional, passionate, and, yes, emotional character. I just hope they can portray her in film, but seeing as so few writers can truly capture her I doubt a popular superhero screenwriter would pull it off.

You can take offense to whatever the hell you like, doesn't make it any less true. True Diana shows her emotions, but she isn't EMOTIONAL, you see, there is a difference. She shows empathy, she shows compassion, but they don't take control of her, especially during combat. A flighty, emotional Wonder Woman, that'll be the day.

Crazy Flakes
07-09-2012, 07:19 PM
You can take offense to whatever the hell you like, doesn't make it any less true. True Diana shows her emotions, but she isn't EMOTIONAL, you see, there is a difference. She shows empathy, she shows compassion, but they don't take control of her, especially during combat. A flighty, emotional Wonder Woman, that'll be the day.

I didn't take offense to how you view Wonder Woman; I took offense to how you said that most girls are "crazy." But that's another issue altogether.

I didn't mean to say that she's flighty. To me emotional doesn't equate to erratic but I suppose everyone defines the word differently. I meant to say that she shows her emotions and still controls them and uses them to her advantage and that adds to her character and her strength - I wasn't trying to imply that she's out of control. I think she's a very in-depth character and it takes a lot of talent to portray her, especially because, like you said, she shows her emotions but they don't take control over her. Oftentimes it's hard for writers and actors alike to make that distinction.

KingMadness
07-09-2012, 07:29 PM
The best emotion I've seen from WW in the JL toon days was when she thought Superman died in Hereafter. Never seen such an intense saddening anger than that.

WW to Toyman: "I'm going to Punch a Hole..in your head"
Flash: We don't do that
WW: Speak for yourself
Flash: I'm trying to speak for Superman.

Great fricking sequence. WW is the beez-kneez in the JL

Susan Eisenberg is fantastic. But yeah like I said, fierceness. anger, compassion, you don't need an entire emotional spectrum to convey Wonder Woman. You just need to pull of a few well.

KingMadness
07-09-2012, 07:53 PM
I didn't take offense to how you view Wonder Woman; I took offense to how you said that most girls are "crazy." But that's another issue altogether.

I didn't mean to say that she's flighty. To me emotional doesn't equate to erratic but I suppose everyone defines the word differently. I meant to say that she shows her emotions and still controls them and uses them to her advantage and that adds to her character and her strength - I wasn't trying to imply that she's out of control. I think she's a very in-depth character and it takes a lot of talent to portray her, especially because, like you said, she shows her emotions but they don't take control over her. Oftentimes it's hard for writers and actors alike to make that distinction.

Emotional: determined or actuated by emotion rather than reason; "it was an emotional judgment"; Readily affected with or stirred by emotion.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotional (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotionalThe)


The (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotionalThe)way I see it, an emotional person is one who lets their emotions dictate their actions and get in the way of their reasoning. That's not what I want Wonder Woman to be like. An emotional person that doesn't let those emotions control them? That doesn't sound like any iteration of Wonder Woman I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of her, live action, cartoon, and comics. I've seen Wonder Woman be fierce, confident, angry, compassionate, flirtatious, but I've never ever seen her be emotional.

Jordacar
07-09-2012, 08:44 PM
any ideas as to how tall she is? she looks a lot more like the sterotypical diana.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/07/05/1226418/291346-isabelle-cornish.jpg

her features are a little rounder then abbie's.

a little video of abbie, to give you a feel for ambassador diana.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/isabelle-cornish-to-follow-older-sister-actress-abbie-cornish-by-signing-with-us-talent-agency-united/story-e6frewz0-1226418291370Cool. They could both audition. Just like the Hemsworths.

This is getting a little spooky. :whatever:

DrCosmic
07-10-2012, 02:35 AM
Emotional: determined or actuated by emotion rather than reason; "it was an emotional judgment"; Readily affected with or stirred by emotion.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotional (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotionalThe)


The (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/emotionalThe)way I see it, an emotional person is one who lets their emotions dictate their actions and get in the way of their reasoning. That's not what I want Wonder Woman to be like. An emotional person that doesn't let those emotions control them? That doesn't sound like any iteration of Wonder Woman I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of her, live action, cartoon, and comics. I've seen Wonder Woman be fierce, confident, angry, compassionate, flirtatious, but I've never ever seen her be emotional.

Those are all emotionally-created actions. Compare that to the cold, heartless Wonder Woman you see sometimes. Which one is more interesting, the hardened warrior or the passionate protector? The no-nonsense amazon or the compassionate flirtatious woman? Diana is at her best when she's emotional, and the best writers know how to sidestep prejudice against women being emotional by showing how it is empowering and beautiful and awesome, not flighty, catty and illogical. It's interesting that they've done it so well you didn't register her as being an emotional character.


SINCE WHEN DID GEMMA ARTENTON BECOME MERYL STREEP?

Since she got compared to Gina Carano, who isn't a great actress. She did okay in Haywire. Gemma Arterton did well in most of the films she's been in, and though Gina Carano fans in this thread have decided that she was utter trash in the movies they've seen, other more netural parties rate her far better.

KingMadness
07-10-2012, 09:22 AM
Those are all emotionally-created actions. Compare that to the cold, heartless Wonder Woman you see sometimes. Which one is more interesting, the hardened warrior or the passionate protector? The no-nonsense amazon or the compassionate flirtatious woman? Diana is at her best when she's emotional, and the best writers know how to sidestep prejudice against women being emotional by showing how it is empowering and beautiful and awesome, not flighty, catty and illogical. It's interesting that they've done it so well you didn't register her as being an emotional character.




Since she got compared to Gina Carano, who isn't a great actress. She did okay in Haywire. Gemma Arterton did well in most of the films she's been in, and though Gina Carano fans in this thread have decided that she was utter trash in the movies they've seen, other more netural parties rate her far better.

I prefer no nonsense Diana during battle. Compassionate outside of battle. Flirtatious only rarely when there's downtime. Basically it's nice to see it but don't make it a habit. Also you can be a hardened warrior, but passionate protector at the same time, those things aren't mutually exclusive. Silly comparison, but look at Goku from Dragonball Z for instance. The guy has been a fighter his entire life, beaten to death on multiple occasions, hardened, but he was always passionate about protecting people. In Goku's case, he believed in mercy where as some iterations of WW make her kill her villains cold blooded so I understand what your saying. But the two aren't mutually exclusive.

All we know is that we've seen Clash, we've seen Prince of Persia, and Gemma was atrocious in both. Maybe show me an acting piece from another movie she has done because at the moment the girl doesn't have an astute resume to speak of.

ЯɘvlveR
07-10-2012, 11:24 AM
http://www.curly-hair-styles-magazine.com/images/hairstyles-long_curly_hair-15.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7186/zzzcl0.jpg

model actress shalom harlow. I've seen her once in one of her earlier roles, in head over heels, where she played a model (go figure) looks the part, but hasn't done anything since 2007 where she played a maid in, alvin in the chipmunks. :dry:

i don't know why but it seems like alot of women of that height range (5-10, 5-11) can't get a lot of roles.

MarvelKnight
07-10-2012, 11:56 AM
I'm sure they'll do something completely unrelated, but I think adapting the animated movie into live action would be a perfect origin for her.

Jordacar
07-10-2012, 01:18 PM
The DTV is great, but they can do better, especially since the movie will be at least 50 minutes longer.

I would love it if Ashley Miller and Zack Stanz (Thor & X-Men FC) got to work on the script, especially if Gail Simone and/or Greg Rucka came up with the story.

KingMadness
07-10-2012, 05:03 PM
Hmm so it seems a lot of the people here, including myself, absolutely love the DC animated Wonder Woman origin. Lets look at the outline for that for a second.


(SPOILERS FOR MOVIE)

1) Hiyppolyta and Ares fight in war, Ares loses.

2) Hiyppolyta and the Amazons are granted Themyscira by Zeuz, Ares is locked up.

3) Hiyppolyta is granted a child, Diana.

4) Steve Trevor crash lands on Themyscira, Hiyppolyta holds games and the winner will be a diplomat for Themyscira and take Trevor back to the United States.

5) Ares brakes out of lockup.

6) Wonder Woman wins and is given her suit, bracers, lasso, and tiara, and takes Trevor back to the US and capture Ares.

7) Diana arrives in "mans world" and tries to make sense of it with Trevor through her different experiences.

8) Diana fights thugs, then demigod Deimos sent by Ares.

9) Diana wins, and finds a clue on Deimos that leads her and Trevor to a temple where Ares is.

10) Once in the temple, Diana in an attempt to get to Ares, fights off Harpies but is mortally injured. Given a choice to stop Ares or save Diana, Trevor saves Diana.

11) As she awakes in a hospital, Diana and Trevor get into it about Ares and the relationship between men and woman, with the final realization that Trevor cares about Diana.

12) Ares and his army from Hades attack Washington D.C, but Wonder Woman and soon the Amazons are there to thwart the charge.

13) Trevor intercepts a nuke heading for Themyscira

14) Wonder Woman and Ares have one final climatic battle, ending in Wonder Woman slicing Ares head off.

15) Ares is condemned to the underworld to attend Hades as a slave alongside his son.

16) Later on Themyscira, Hippolyta realizes that Diana misses both the outside world and Trevor, and to make her happy again, she charges her daughter to become a diplomat for the Amazons

17) Diana and Trevor enjoy life together, trouble breaks out, and Wonder Woman emerges to stop Cheetah. The end.

That's the basic gist of the movie. Now this movie is only 1 hour and 15 minutes. Considering this would most likely be a two hour movie, that leaves 45 minutes of film unattended. My question to you guys, is what would you do with that 45 minutes, and what else would you do or change to make the movie better?

TheComicbookKid
07-10-2012, 05:36 PM
Hmm so it seems a lot of the people here, including myself, absolutely love the DC animated Wonder Woman origin. Lets look at the outline for that for a second.





4) Steve Trevor crash lands on Themyscira, Hiyppolyta holds games and the winner will be a diplomat for Themyscira and take Trevor back to the United States.



That's not what happens. Otherwise she wouldn't have been sad on Themy at the end wishing for permission to return. She went to get Ares and send back Trevor.

KingMadness
07-10-2012, 05:58 PM
Well the winner would send Trevor back and represent Themyscira, same diff :P

ЯɘvlveR
07-10-2012, 06:28 PM
via cbm,

According to our source part of WB's plan is to use Man Of Steel and drop hints that Superman is in a shared universe with his DC counterparts. The hints will be very subtle such as character mentions. The one character that DC is really wanting to reference is Wonder Woman. :dry:

terry78
07-10-2012, 06:44 PM
We'll see.

TheComicbookKid
07-10-2012, 06:53 PM
^There are too many rumors about MOS to believe anything. 3D, not 3D. Character references were supposed to be in GL weren't they?

Well the winner would send Trevor back and represent Themyscira, same diff :P

That's the least of that movie's problems.:woot:

Jordacar
07-10-2012, 07:37 PM
8) Diana fights thugs, then demigod Deimos sent by Ares. Right here is where I think the film would diverge most from the DTV. Before that they would hit most of the same points at the same times at least in regards to Diana's arc. That Deimos guy comes right out of nowhere. It's a cool fight, but the narrative can take its time by this point.

I think there could be more of a mystery surrounding Ares involvement. Rather than him being locked up and then escaping, make it more subtle. Like maybe he's got a human form that WW has to sniff out. Even the thugs she fight could be involved with Ares' scheme somehow rather than just random mooks, like she's working her way up the food chain.

DrCosmic
07-11-2012, 02:56 PM
That's the basic gist of the movie. Now this movie is only 1 hour and 15 minutes. Considering this would most likely be a two hour movie, that leaves 45 minutes of film unattended. My question to you guys, is what would you do with that 45 minutes, and what else would you do or change to make the movie better?

Hmmm... GREAT breakdown and question. First, I would spend 10 minutes framing the Amazon Backstory in Diana's childhood, so that we understand it's emotional value to her instead of it just being exposition to power through. I might also spread it out throughout the movie.

I would spend another 10 minutes detailing Diana's powers and how she gets them, perhaps a visit to Hera's temple for the winner of the games, and some physical benchmarks/feats to show what she's capable of, and what she's not. I'd also explain the invisible jet as coming from a repair of Steve's jet with some epic Amazonian metal.

I'd use 15 minutes to pad every fight with five more minutes of action (Deimos, Cult of Ares, Final Battle).

I'd use the last ten minutes to expand on her introduction to man's world, her getting an apartment perhaps, becoming frienemies with Etta. A public reaction to her stopping street crime. Things like that. Give her a place in our world.

There are some things in the 2009 animated movie that I think were too random and/or cartoony to work in live action, namely Deimos, Thrax, and the flying creature in the cult base. Thrax added a lot of pathos, but he was introduced and taken so quickly, there's no way to care about him. The flying creature introduced the other creatures well, but it made Ares seem random. Same with Deimos. If Ares could be shown to be corrupting individuals into monsters, I think that would hold some more potency, narratively, and be more economical narratively as well.

Brawl
07-11-2012, 06:52 PM
I really thought Lynn Collins looked dead on like WW, but she is a bit on the mature side but still think she could easly nail the role.

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oXstYeoroZhvZwKVPoXPAA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/movietalk/lynncollins_300.jpg

http://www.thedirectorscutradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lynn-john-carter22.jpg

MarvelKnight
07-11-2012, 06:59 PM
The DTV is great, but they can do better, especially since the movie will be at least 50 minutes longer.

I would love it if Ashley Miller and Zack Stanz (Thor & X-Men FC) got to work on the script, especially if Gail Simone and/or Greg Rucka came up with the story.

Lol... can they do better?..That's asking a lot of WB/DC

But that notwithstanding, of course it would be longer. Use that time to flesh out characters more, a little more in depth story development, whatever they feel they need to add,but the the main points of the DTV lay out perfectly for a great live actioin adaptation. Gods, battles, bloodshed, budding romance for ST/WW for the people who feel there has to be a love interest right off the bat...Few easter eggs continuing the hint of a shared universe(especially if the MoS rumors are true about hinting at it) and boom. Successful Live action flick that isn't batman or superman. lol. Sure it won't be an exact adapation.. nothing ever is. but the basic premise is right there waiting.

Jordacar
07-11-2012, 08:35 PM
I really thought Lynn Collins looked dead on like WW, but she is a bit on the mature side but still think she could easly nail the role.

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oXstYeoroZhvZwKVPoXPAA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/movietalk/lynncollins_300.jpg

http://www.thedirectorscutradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lynn-john-carter22.jpgAgreed. All that Shakespeare training could really come in handy.

The Boy Scout
07-11-2012, 10:05 PM
I hate to be "that guy," but can we remove that big ass poll at the top of the page? It gets really irritating after a while to scroll down farther than I should have to so I can get to the posts.

ЯɘvlveR
07-11-2012, 10:39 PM
and you can't even vote on it. I've tried a couple times lol.

The Boy Scout
07-11-2012, 10:44 PM
All the more reason to get rid of it. :o

KingMadness
07-12-2012, 12:21 AM
Interesting answers to my question. The tough decision is whether to use that 45 minutes for character development, action, or a mix of both. But if it is a mix of both, which gets more time, is it equal?

I also have a monumental crush on Lynn Collins, and John Carter sucked....that's how hot she was. Gina or Lynn could definitely pull off WW no question.

Gabe99
07-12-2012, 10:18 AM
SCOOP: MAN OF STEEL To Drop Hints About A Shared Universe (http://tinyurl.com/cl5hkwm)

MarvelKnight
07-12-2012, 02:17 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a more mature WW. I think introducing a WW that is already a little battle-tested and less naive in regards to the outside world would be nice upon introduction. Also, if they don't want to do the whole 'sculpted out of clay' bit just make her the actual demigod daughter of ares/hippolyta.. Problem solved.

Young Superman
07-12-2012, 03:30 PM
How about Janina Gavankar as Wonder Woman?

metaphysician
07-12-2012, 03:31 PM
I've been saying Lynn Collins since I saw John Carter. . .

ЯɘvlveR
07-12-2012, 03:42 PM
How about Janina Gavankar as Wonder Woman?

that's an interesting choice. their are a couple of actresses on true blood that i could imagine as wondy actually. deborah ann woll, valentina cervi as well.

silenceKILLS
07-12-2012, 05:14 PM
How about Janina Gavankar as Wonder Woman?

I think Janina is a fantastic choice for Diana, plus she is a fan of the character, i believe which is always 100% better than a non-fan.

Rodrigo90
07-12-2012, 07:29 PM
Loads of actors who aren't fans do good jobs in roles.

Hamill-Joker
07-17-2012, 03:04 AM
I'm not really familiar with her acting, but based on looks, age, and height, I think Odette Yustman might be a good candidate.

Project862006
07-17-2012, 03:20 AM
go watch the unborn

you will change your opinion quick

aNarcHy2day
07-17-2012, 10:17 AM
Yustmann was my choice for a while and she'd make an excellent Diana but she is just too un-Wonder Woman-esque.
go watch the unborn

you will change your opinion quick

Better still, watch And Soon the Darkness and you'll change your mind faster.

She'd make a rocking Lois Lane, though.

KingMadness
07-17-2012, 03:43 PM
Rashida Jones already has Lois Lane locked up. No question.

Majik1387
07-17-2012, 03:49 PM
No she doesn't. At all.

Jordacar
07-17-2012, 04:46 PM
I think Jones would make a fantastic Lois. But she doesn't have Lois locked up because...y'know, she's not playing Lois. Oh well.

KingMadness
07-17-2012, 06:23 PM
That girl who is playing Lois will do bad. Shoulda been Rashida, but she will get her turn.

Majik1387
07-17-2012, 06:24 PM
That girl who is playing Lois will do bad. Shoulda been Rashida, but she will get her turn.
You so cray cray. :oldrazz:

aNarcHy2day
07-17-2012, 09:02 PM
Jones is what? 36?

Hell no, man!

combocaz
07-17-2012, 11:30 PM
Genesis Rodriguez
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/combocaz/genesis-rodriguez.jpghttp://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/combocaz/genesis-rodriguez-ledge-los-angeles-premiere-0WZsZU.jpghttp://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/combocaz/genesis-rodriguez-picture-1020606608.jpg

DrCosmic
07-18-2012, 02:42 AM
Jones would have been an incredible Lois, no doubt, but that ship has sailed, and then strapped rockets on and sailed further...

Genesis looks quite nice, and her career is on a rapid upward track, so that's good. She's not very tall though.

combocaz
07-18-2012, 03:34 AM
I dont think her height would be a problem.

jmc
07-18-2012, 03:45 AM
Genesis Rodriguez
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/combocaz/genesis-rodriguez.jpghttp://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/combocaz/genesis-rodriguez-ledge-los-angeles-premiere-0WZsZU.jpghttp://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g58/combocaz/genesis-rodriguez-picture-1020606608.jpg

Tall or not she's all kinds of beautiful.

Project862006
07-18-2012, 06:48 AM
That girl who is playing Lois will do bad. Shoulda been Rashida, but she will get her turn.
that girl you mean 3 time oscar nominee amy adams?

:dry:

but yeah they should replace her with rashida jones slol

p4poetic
07-18-2012, 02:38 PM
that girl you mean 3 time oscar nominee amy adams?

:dry:

but yeah they should replace her with rashida jones slol

I can see Jones playing Lois in a Superman TV show.

Hal Jordan
07-18-2012, 08:59 PM
Wonder Woman has an Angelic face
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/JohnDylan6/malin-akerman002.jpg
she's sexy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/JohnDylan6/Malin-akerman003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/JohnDylan6/MalinAkerman7.jpg
she has the acting chops, just watch Watchmen. Yes, she has a small chest, that's true, but that's something Hollywood and the wonderbra can make look bigger. I think she has what it takes and I can see her standing next to Henry Cavill and Ryan Reynolds kicking ass in a Justice League movie.

She has my vote, go watch the Watchmen again her physical abilities and acting is great. Have her go to the gym for a couple of months and get in shape again, and dye her hair black, it's Wonder Woman.

Zack Snyder/ WB make her Wonder Woman!

Blackman
07-18-2012, 09:08 PM
I dont think Ackerman is that good of an actress. Yes I've seen Watchmen. I'd give her a supporting role but not as Diana

p4poetic
07-18-2012, 11:20 PM
Still my choice

http://s3.amazonaws.com/cmi-niche/assets/pictures/1368/content_01-Biel1.jpg?1280498815

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7abhtK8Wz1qeljzyo1_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7abmy50xA1qeljzyo1_500.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x212/blue-fang/Jessica%20Biel/J_Biel_BladeTs091.jpg

Jordacar
07-18-2012, 11:26 PM
Biel's probably the best choice if the studio wants a recognizable face (because that worked sooooo well for GL.)

DrCosmic
07-18-2012, 11:46 PM
So... I finally saw Haywire. Anyone suggesting Gina Carano for Diana is tripping in my book. She is nowhere near the caliber of actress needed to headline a drama, unless Wonder Woman is supposed to be one long fight scene, she's not our girl. Bring her on as a stunt woman, and call that a day.

It's hard to get upset at Jessica Biel though, she's had the WW credentials since forever. She just can't seem to find herself in a good movie.

p4poetic
07-18-2012, 11:56 PM
So... I finally saw Haywire. Anyone suggesting Gina Carano for Diana is tripping in my book. She is nowhere near the caliber of actress needed to headline a drama, unless Wonder Woman is supposed to be one long fight scene, she's not our girl. Bring her on as a stunt woman, and call that a day.

It's hard to get upset at Jessica Biel though, she's had the WW credentials since forever. She just can't seem to find herself in a good movie.

Apparently she keeps losing parts to Anne Hathaway.

combocaz
07-19-2012, 01:17 AM
Im not a fan of Biel, it seems like every movie she touches becomes mud.

Silvermoth
07-19-2012, 05:02 AM
I don't like Biel either tbh. She relies on her looks.

Bruce_Begins
07-19-2012, 08:06 AM
Hell no to Biel, reasons -

* Most of the movies she is in do not perform very well.

* Her looks are not really suitable for Wonder Woman, she could be OK for Black Canary though.

* Her acting skills are limited, WW actress will have to be a good actress as convincing GA that she is WW alone is a very difficult task.

DrCosmic
07-19-2012, 11:40 AM
Hmmm... Biel certainly picks bad films, no doubt, but I don't know that she's ever done a bad job, or shown that she is limited in her ability to portray emotions. And I just want to reiterate into the air how much I dislike vague 'not the right look' comments. To the point that I will defend Biel, who, imho, doesn't have anything that makes her 'pop,' because vague looks comments are just that deplorable.

KingMadness
07-19-2012, 02:12 PM
LMFAO @ Jessica Biel, yeah okay. Girl couldn't act her way out of a paper box and looks like a twig. That's Wonder Woman alright!

Majik1387
07-19-2012, 02:13 PM
You're a funny guy King.

terry78
07-19-2012, 02:45 PM
LMFAO @ Jessica Biel, yeah okay. Girl couldn't act her way out of a paper box and looks like a twig. That's Wonder Woman alright!

Congrats on the most blatant trolling of all time.

p4poetic
07-19-2012, 04:17 PM
Definitely a twig!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7b3e5dq6W1qa45uio6_r1_250.gif

Hell no to Biel, reasons -

* Most of the movies she is in do not perform very well.

* Her looks are not really suitable for Wonder Woman, she could be OK for Black Canary though.

* Her acting skills are limited, WW actress will have to be a good actress as convincing GA that she is WW alone is a very difficult task.

Wonder Woman is a character that can sell itself.

Her acting skills are fine.

Majik1387
07-19-2012, 04:41 PM
Her acting skills are better than the majority of the current suggestions for the role, that's for sure.

p4poetic
07-19-2012, 08:35 PM
Her acting skills are better than the majority of the current suggestions for the role, that's for sure.

I myself am tired of reading through essays on how/why she's just so terrible for the part, and then conclude their thesis by letting us know that someone like Gina Carano is "perfect for Wonder Woman". :dry:

BigA
07-19-2012, 10:24 PM
I would like to see Alexandra Daddario. 5' 6.5", but she definitely can the body for WW if she goes on a good workout plan. Definitely has the chest too.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ylcc2sUr1rnwypjo1_1280.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79um71dfl1rnwypjo2_400.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/2n0sv0p.jpg

Majik1387
07-19-2012, 10:30 PM
Too girly looking.

Jake Cassidy
07-19-2012, 10:37 PM
^ So are you. :oldrazz:

Derrick9592
07-19-2012, 11:34 PM
I was thinking just out of the blue that maybe Gemma Arterton would make a good Wonder Woman. Just something about her that really makes her stand out from the rest I've heard.

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Gemma-Arterton-on-the-set-of-Clash-of-the-Titans.jpg

terry78
07-20-2012, 12:09 AM
Basically WW can't look soft. A lot of chicks that can act look kind of soft. Truth be told, someone with Jolie's face structure is what I envision. Don't want her per se, but that's what I think of regarding WW.

Majik1387
07-20-2012, 12:19 AM
Make up can work wonders at making facial features pop. Not the sometimes almost drag make up Lynn Collins had in John Carter though.

KingMadness
07-20-2012, 08:36 AM
I seem to remember her looking different back in the day, she been snacking on dem cheetos and chunky munky I see. Nevertheless, she doesn't have the WW face.

Also one important thing. You know how when yo go to the hood, guys can look at you and tell if your soft enough. If your soft and you try to act hard you just end up looking fake. That's what some of these suggestions feel like, you guys keep suggesting these barbie dolls like Gemma but they won't be able to get the look down, which is the first step.

Obsidian Idea
07-21-2012, 02:11 AM
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I love it! It looks so right...if only it was true...

phoenixflight
07-21-2012, 10:32 AM
dc_trinity_by_nigelhalsey-d552elk.jpg
I love it! It looks so right...if only it was true...

Were you trying to post this pic...

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8840/dctrinitybynigelhalseyd.jpg

Its a great pic...if only!!!

Blackman
07-21-2012, 12:41 PM
Basically WW can't look soft. A lot of chicks that can act look kind of soft. Truth be told, someone with Jolie's face structure is what I envision. Don't want her per se, but that's what I think of regarding WW.

Even though I find her an overrated actress (She's not bad imo, she's talented but I dont think she has shown ability to tie in the her superstardom) Angelina Jolie would actually be a really good choice for Hippolyta when I think about it
http://i46.tinypic.com/2cct187.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2rvxy5f.jpg

-She's arguably the biggest female star currently out there...well at least she's the highest paid:o
-As I said, even though I find her overrated I still think she's a good actress
-She can do action as seen in Wanted, Salt, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, etc.
-If they cast an unknown/up and comer for Diana they'll need a lot of star power, how many actresses has more star power than Jolie?