View Full Version : The Deadliest Woman in the Galaxy: The Gamora Thread
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 03:57 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/cons/philly_charlotte2007/mondomarvel/nova-6.jpg
Discuss Gamora here.
OrangeCloud
07-18-2012, 04:01 PM
Sigourney Weaver dyed her skin.
Colossal Spoons
07-18-2012, 04:05 PM
NOT Olivia Munn haha
obin_gam
07-18-2012, 04:07 PM
NOT Olivia Munn haha
wut wut wut?! She's great in The Newsroom!
Colossal Spoons
07-18-2012, 04:09 PM
I'm sure she is, get her away from comic book movies nonetheless :D
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 04:09 PM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gemma+Arterton+GQ+Men+Year+Awards+2010+Outside+5BN ad64CVGkl.jpg
Gemma Arterton is a highly sexy, talented actress who's made some horrible Franchise choices. I think GOTG and Gamora is just what she needs.
Eddie Dean
07-18-2012, 04:16 PM
Paula Patton!
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/MattImageMan/MI4-banner001feat-460x250.jpg
Chewy
07-18-2012, 04:16 PM
Lynn Collins yo
http://i.imgur.com/onPJP.jpg
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 04:27 PM
Lynn Collins yo
http://i.imgur.com/onPJP.jpg
This is a Disney film; I really doubt Lynn Collins will work for them again in the near future. She was great and all, but she was in one of the biggest box office bombs EVER. the Last thing Disney wants to do right now is promote another obscuro sci-fi property with actors from JC.
Chewy
07-18-2012, 04:30 PM
It's not like she had anything to do with its failure. Plus she'd be painted green here.
There are all sorts of actors in JC who will move on with their careers just fine. The only one it's really gonna damage is Kitsch.
Neo_3
07-18-2012, 05:11 PM
Milla Jovovichis my choice, right now she is the #1 female action star. Give her this role and the potential of the movie grows with the fans.
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 05:22 PM
Meh.
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 05:52 PM
This is a Disney film; I really doubt Lynn Collins will work for them again in the near future. She was great and all, but she was in one of the biggest box office bombs EVER. the Last thing Disney wants to do right now is promote another obscuro sci-fi property with actors from JC.
That's ridiculous logic.
JB-the-Hunter
07-18-2012, 06:50 PM
Adrianne Palicki
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JIUwbolrcNM/TVz6qbNAjvI/AAAAAAAAACw/WL5TVN0YUA4/s1600/PicImg_BCBGMaxAzria__Backstage_f125.jpg
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 06:53 PM
That's ridiculous logic.
Okay here's more sound logic; Lynn Collins will be 36-37 when this comes out, and if they stretch it for a trilogy, she'll be kind of long in the tooth to be a super-babe action heroine by #3.
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:12 PM
That's assuming this movie does well enough to warrant sequels. Also, that's such hollywood crap that 36-37 is old. How old was Sigourney Weaver when she was making those ****** Alien sequels?
Chewy
07-18-2012, 07:25 PM
I really don't think early 40s is that old. But then again, it is Hollywood
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:29 PM
I really don't think early 40s is that old. But then again, it is Hollywood
True. Milfy.
Jake Cassidy
07-19-2012, 04:28 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3P55lAXe4BA/T8NZC8ddUTI/AAAAAAAAGb4/MszRZFOZbe0/s1600/adrianne-palicki-2012-06.jpg
JB-the-Hunter
07-19-2012, 04:38 AM
:hrt: :up: :hrt:
She's perfect. Tall, beautiful, athletic build, good actress
Silvermoth
07-19-2012, 05:22 AM
Okay here's more sound logic; Lynn Collins will be 36-37 when this comes out, and if they stretch it for a trilogy, she'll be kind of long in the tooth to be a super-babe action heroine by #3.
Just for the record, the actress who plays Gamora will need to be more than a 'super babe'. She's the only female character in the Guardians of the Galaxy at the moment (filmverse wise). She will need to be able to offer women something of interest too.
Chewy
07-19-2012, 07:59 AM
I like Palicki for the role too
Darthphere
07-19-2012, 09:58 AM
Yeah, I like her too. for the role I mean.
Chewy
07-19-2012, 10:37 AM
Just reuse the GI Joe cast
Star-Lord: Channing
Gamora: Palicki
Drax: Rock
Raccoon: Willis
KangConquers
07-19-2012, 11:39 AM
Just for the record, the actress who plays Gamora will need to be more than a 'super babe'. She's the only female character in the Guardians of the Galaxy at the moment (filmverse wise). She will need to be able to offer women something of interest too.
And Arterton can't?
Darthphere
07-19-2012, 11:56 AM
I don't think anyone says she couldn't.
AVEITWITHJAMON
07-19-2012, 12:57 PM
Gemma Arterton and Paula Patton are great shouts.
I also think Jessica Biel could pull this off, she has a naturally musculare and athletic build without looking like a body builder. She's not an amazing actress but I doubt Gamora would require that.
Laufey
07-20-2012, 04:25 AM
I would like to see Olivia Wilde as Gamora. She would have to put on some muscle though.
Silvermoth
07-20-2012, 05:34 AM
And Arterton can't?
I didn't say that. I like Arterton.
KangConquers
07-21-2012, 07:10 AM
http://michaelmay.us/08blog/0828f_gamorabootycall.jpg
http://michaelmay.us/08blog/0828f_gamoraclubhouse.jpg
http://michaelmay.us/08blog/0828f_gamoragoteam.jpg
I love Gamora.
KangConquers
07-21-2012, 07:19 AM
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120310084720/marveldatabase/images/thumb/2/27/Nova_Vol_4_10_Textless.jpg/1000px-Nova_Vol_4_10_Textless.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070529125942/marveldatabase/images/0/01/Annihilation_Ronan_Vol_1_3_Textless.jpg
Chewy
07-21-2012, 11:20 AM
I would like to see Olivia Wilde as Gamora. She would have to put on some muscle though.
I like Wilde a lot but she's a bit too skin-and-bones for a role like this
KangConquers
07-21-2012, 11:45 AM
I like Wilde a lot but she's a bit too skin-and-bones for a role like this
Yeah. Gamora has to be able to kick some ass. She doesn't shoot fireballs, or bolts of electricity. She's a warrior.
cherokeesam
07-21-2012, 09:42 PM
Yeah. Gamora has to be able to kick some ass. She doesn't shoot fireballs, or bolts of electricity. She's a warrior.
So there you are: Lucy Lawless.
Casting thread solved! Next.
KangConquers
07-22-2012, 01:16 PM
So there you are: Lucy Lawless.
Casting thread solved! Next.
Um. No.
Captain Marvel
07-22-2012, 02:05 PM
Eww, no.
And yes, I did just eww Lucy Lawless.
Eddie Dean
07-22-2012, 02:18 PM
Then you are officially crazy.
KangConquers
07-22-2012, 02:54 PM
I'd prefer a Gamora who's closer to my age than my mom's age, thanks.
Nathan
07-22-2012, 03:59 PM
How about Rhona Mitra?
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6593/rhonamitra26.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/209/rhonamitra26.jpg/)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8964/rhonamitra01280908.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/rhonamitra01280908.jpg/)
Joeyjojo72
07-22-2012, 05:39 PM
^This. No one associated with JC will get any big roles in this movie. Lynn Collins barely has a movie career to begin with. She was as dull and uninteresting as Klitsch, and zero chemistry. Both their careers will suffer, but Kitsch is at least younger. She actually looks older than she really is, especially on a giant screen.
If she can get into proper shape, I like Rosario Dawson in this.
http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/big_rosario-dawson-6.jpg
http://www.stylebrity.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/rosario-dawson/rosario-dawson-gq-germany-nov-04.jpg
SuperSAINT
07-22-2012, 05:43 PM
http://iphonetoolbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/moon-bloodgood-01-f.jpg
KangConquers
07-22-2012, 05:45 PM
Rosario would be good.
One thing I always wonder when we do these threads is who it will ACTUALLY be. No one on the hype championed Chris Hemsworth before he got the role; same with Downey...We rarely seem to get these things right. Anyone want to take a crack at who will actually wind up on the short list for Gamora?
Abudefduf
07-22-2012, 06:11 PM
Hell yes to Rosario.
Anyway, about her outfit... let's face it, she's not gonna wear THAT one in the movie. lol
Joeyjojo72
07-22-2012, 06:16 PM
Lol which one? Have you seen Gamora's outfit in the comics? Anyway, the point is she can pull off the whole "sexy warrior" thing if necessary. And she has a very unique look to her. It would be an inspired choice, but who knows what they'll do. They might go with a relative unknown, which is fine if she can act and is convincing. The "scrawny model" look wont cut it imo, but again that can be mitigated with diet and training.
Chewy
07-22-2012, 06:56 PM
No one on the hype championed Chris Hemsworth before he got the role
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=10702165#post10702165
:oldrazz:
KangConquers
07-22-2012, 07:20 PM
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=10702165#post10702165
:oldrazz:
**** a duck... :wow:
Looking at Marvel Studios past history, the following names have popped up on their shortlists for female roles:
Emily Blunt
Alice Eve
Kierra Knightly
Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Morena Baccarin
Jessica Lucas
Maybe our Gamora is among those actresses?
chronos
07-22-2012, 07:37 PM
Whoever first suggested Paula Patton- Genius!
Derrick9592
07-22-2012, 08:25 PM
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=10702165#post10702165
:oldrazz: Funny how time flies ;)
T"Challa
07-22-2012, 08:45 PM
Funny how time flies ;)
lol @ this quote in that thread
Eh... He's got a ways to go in the muscle department before he's worthy of the winged helmet.
JB-the-Hunter
07-22-2012, 10:09 PM
**** a duck... :wow:
Looking at Marvel Studios past history, the following names have popped up on their shortlists for female roles:
Emily Blunt
Alice Eve
Kierra Knightly
Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Morena Baccarin
Jessica Lucas
Maybe our Gamora is among those actresses?
Jessica Chastain
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a387576/jessica-chastain-still-hopeful-of-marvel-role.html
KangConquers
07-22-2012, 10:33 PM
Jessica Chastain
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a387576/jessica-chastain-still-hopeful-of-marvel-role.html
True. When it comes down to it, that list is kind of lacking in the Kick ass Alien Warrior department. Many 5'3"-5'4" women, I believe Emily Blunt comes out the best at 5'7".
JB-the-Hunter
07-22-2012, 11:08 PM
I'm sticking with my choice of Adrianne Palicki. She's perfect for Gamora in every single, possible way.
Yellow Cyclone
07-22-2012, 11:22 PM
Paula Patton!
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/MattImageMan/MI4-banner001feat-460x250.jpg
she was so good in MI4
cherokeesam
07-22-2012, 11:23 PM
**** a duck... :wow:
Looking at Marvel Studios past history, the following names have popped up on their shortlists for female roles:
Emily Blunt
Alice Eve
Kierra Knightly
Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Morena Baccarin
Jessica Lucas
Jessica Chastain
Maybe our Gamora is among those actresses?
I added Jessica Chastain, as mentioned above, for her all-too-brief association with Iron Man 3.
Out of those listed, Kiera is the only one I'd consider ass-kicking enough to do the job, but she's also pretty darn expensive.
Rumor has it that Alice Eve is Marvel's top choice for Enchantress in Thor 2; and I wouldn't be surprised to see Edgar Wright use his connections to make Winstead into Wasp.
Maybe Marvel can snag Jessica Biel, now that she's turned down The Wolverine.
Suzanne78
07-23-2012, 05:56 AM
No Jessica Biel tainting the MCU please. I think she's not a very good actress.
I'd love Patton for Gamora. She's talented, kickass, beautiful. Same with Rosario Dawson. Both would be a win for the role.
Chewy
07-23-2012, 08:06 AM
Yes, no Biel please. I don't really mind her but she stinks it up in these action tentpoles
AVEITWITHJAMON
07-23-2012, 09:41 AM
^I think she has the athletic and musculare body to pull off the role though personally speaking, the action especially she could pull off, and her acting is good enough for the role as well.
Joeyjojo72
07-23-2012, 09:56 AM
Yeah Biel is a no go. Shes just not much of an actress. And shes not very interesting even when shes decent. She has the bod for it, but so what? Thats what personal trainers and steroids are for.
I like Patton too, but Rosario is my top choice at the moment. Lol not that I get a choice.
cherokeesam
07-23-2012, 10:32 AM
Yeah Biel is a no go. Shes just not much of an actress. And shes not very interesting even when shes decent. She has the bod for it, but so what? Thats what personal trainers and steroids are for.
I like Patton too, but Rosario is my top choice at the moment. Lol not that I get a choice.
You gotta admit that Rosario is the one who's most believable as a hot chick who'd just love to stab you and rip out your beating heart --- literally --- while she's still got you in bed.
Chewy
07-23-2012, 07:43 PM
I could get definitely get on board with Dawson :up:
Silver Surfer
07-23-2012, 08:20 PM
Paula Patton!
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/MattImageMan/MI4-banner001feat-460x250.jpg
Seconded!
KangConquers
07-25-2012, 03:52 PM
Is anyone else slightly miffed about her pants?
Rowsdower!
07-25-2012, 04:28 PM
Love the idea of Paula Patton.
I'd say no to Mitra and Palicki though. Mitra, because I tend to associate her with crappy B-movies like Doomsday and Palicki because the only time I've ever been impressed by her acting is when she's playing a ditz.
Darthphere
07-25-2012, 04:42 PM
And when did she play a ditz?
cherokeesam
07-25-2012, 11:26 PM
Is anyone else slightly miffed about her pants?
Yep.
This reminds me of the unending costume arguments in the Ms. Marvel (speculative) thread. Superheroines should be allowed to be sexy, without having to be practical all the time.
Especially when it comes to Gamora. All the usual arguments against the hooker garb worn by Wonder Woman or Ms. Marvel can be thrown right out the window when it comes to Gamora, because she LIKES to be sexy, and flaunt her body and sexuality. She uses it as much as a weapon as she does her blades.
Silvermoth
07-26-2012, 05:13 AM
I don't agree. A character can be sexy but they don't need to look like they've walked off a porn set.
I know certain guys enjoy that in comics but there's a reason why comic books are stereotyped towards a certain type of guy. Movies have a broader audience and there will be young girls and boys looking at these characters.
cherokeesam
07-26-2012, 06:45 AM
I don't agree. A character can be sexy but they don't need to look like they've walked off a porn set.
I know certain guys enjoy that in comics but there's a reason why comic books are stereotyped towards a certain type of guy. Movies have a broader audience and there will be young girls and boys looking at these characters.
It's not like there isn't a precedent in space opera for half-naked girls. Slave Leia shows more skin than Gamora does, and there's Princess Ardala or Zardala or whoever from Buck Rogers, and I'm pretty sure Flash Gordon had some bikini-clad princesses, too. Even the disaster that was John Carter let Dejah Thoris show a fair amount of skin, albeit not the full nude of the novels.
A half-naked Gamora would be "true to canon," and still meet the "family standards" test, compared to Star Wars, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, John Carter and other space opera.
Joeyjojo72
07-26-2012, 11:56 AM
Nah, she's gonna have to be mostly covered, with a semi-practical outfit depending on the environment. A scene or two of partial pg-13 nudity is fine, but thats about it. This is an adaptation, so "canon" doesnt enter into it.
All of Marvel's movies have deviated from canon - sometimes drastically - when necessary. The fact that they've managed to preserve the spirit of the comics is a small miracle. And for such an obscure property, they should feel free to throw canon out the window. Keep what works, and ditch the rest. Not a problem if the movie is good.
KangConquers
07-26-2012, 12:19 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vlND0fdbSto/TjKg2NOTrCI/AAAAAAAAAp8/pX2BE1EAc5w/s1600/279785-158329-gamora.jpg
She needs to cover up? I don't know...maybe I have some frapping paper for her. :woot:
Chewy
07-26-2012, 12:38 PM
A John Carter-esque costume would work for an action heroine. The above would not :oldrazz:
http://i.imgur.com/WAqmt.jpg
KangConquers
07-26-2012, 12:40 PM
A John Carter-esque costume would work for an action heroine. The above would not :oldrazz:
http://i.imgur.com/WAqmt.jpg
You might get banned...there are people on this board afraid of women's legs...apparently they're box office poison.
Destructus86
07-26-2012, 01:50 PM
Obviously she'll be mostly clothed
Jake Cassidy
07-26-2012, 03:18 PM
Mystique was, practically, naked and no-one cared.
KangConquers
07-26-2012, 03:22 PM
Mystique was, practically, naked and no-one cared.
Yeah. Gamora will be painted Green, too.
Joeyjojo72
07-26-2012, 07:42 PM
Not gonna happen. She will have clothes, not strips of fabric. Also, she wont have primitive tribal duds either. Believe me, I would love to see Rosario Dawson (my personal pick) in that outfit from the comics, but its not in the cards. At least for the bulk of the film.
And please stop using JC as an example of ANYTHING except what not to do. Just accept it for the enormous failure that it was, and something that for Disney and Marvel represents a cautionary tale and not some misunderstood cult classic with ideas that are worth plundering for future projects. I understand that some folks enjoyed it but no one cares. Thanks.
Chewy
07-26-2012, 07:50 PM
Ah yes, this reasoning again.
"Movies that didn't make a lot of money can never have any aspect of them spoken about in any positive light ever. Even costuming and supporting cast members. Sweep it all under the rug and pretend there are zero good ideas present. Kay? Kay."
cherokeesam
07-26-2012, 10:51 PM
Not gonna happen. She will have clothes, not strips of fabric. Also, she wont have primitive tribal duds either. Believe me, I would love to see Rosario Dawson (my personal pick) in that outfit from the comics, but its not in the cards. At least for the bulk of the film.
How 'bout you admit you don't have any more idea what Gamora will wind up looking like than any of the rest of us do? As pointed out above, if Romijn and J-Law can wander through no less than four movies buck naked except for blue body paint and strategically-placed scales, and Emma Frost can lounge around in her 60s lingerie, then there's no reason to doubt that Gamora will dress up like an Orion slave girl, as God and Stan Lee intended.
chronos
07-26-2012, 11:23 PM
While I am aware that it is subject to change, I would have to say that the concept art gives us a good indication of where they are heading, at least costume wise. I for one have no problem at all with Gamora's costume. I would compare it to Sif's costume from "Thor". Not an exact translation from the comics, but a really good adaptation. I feel it gives her more of a warrior vibe, and less of a stripper with sword look, which is what everyone will be saying if you go with the straight comics attire. The less accusations of sexism comics and comicbook movies can get the better.
Joeyjojo72
07-27-2012, 12:21 AM
precisely. Beyond that artwork, I have no idea what her costuming will be like. I just know she wont be spending the majority of the movie in the equivalent of a skimpy bathing suit. That doesnt mean she wont be sexy or that she wont be showing some skin, but the above outfit would be way over the top in a live action movie of this kind.
They want to shoot some semi nude scenes for the unrated blu ray, I wont complain.
Silvermoth
07-27-2012, 06:09 AM
Look, it's not even an issue. Marvel have shown what they're aiming for with the concept art...
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg820/scaled.php?server=820&filename=guardiansofthegalaxycon.jpg&res=landing
Note that she's actually wearing clothes. People hoping for Gamora to fight in a string bikini and paint are going to be dissapointed. It's for the best.
Just watch porn if you want to see women true to Gamora's comic book origin.
cherokeesam
07-27-2012, 07:59 AM
Just a bit of a reality check here: concept art rarely resembles finished product. Like....ever.
Yes, I agree that, most likely, MS will opt to go conservative on Gamora's costume; but I'm just saying there's some instances in the comics where the superheroine *shouldn't* dress like a hooker, and certain instances where they *should,* or at least choose to. And I'm saying that in Gamora's case, the sexy costume fits the character....i.e., she chooses to be sexy, and it's part of her "toolkit." So to cover up goes against not only canon, but character.
Nathan
07-27-2012, 08:02 AM
Strings of close aren't practical if you're doing action scenes. Wardrobe malfunctions are pre-programed, unless you glue the fabric to your nipples.
Chewy
07-27-2012, 09:39 AM
Mystique was, practically, naked and no-one cared.
Romijn had those blue rubbery scales glued to her practically head to toe. Her midriff and parts of her arms and legs were all that was actually exposed.
KangConquers
07-27-2012, 12:07 PM
I love how this thread was languishing until I brought up the costume argument, now it's got one of the highest post counts on the Guardians board.
Joeyjojo72
07-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Hey this is serious business.
Joeyjojo72
07-27-2012, 03:12 PM
Ah yes, this reasoning again.
"Movies that didn't make a lot of money can never have any aspect of them spoken about in any positive light ever. Even costuming and supporting cast members. Sweep it all under the rug and pretend there are zero good ideas present. Kay? Kay."
My point was that , whether you like it or not, JC and all its "good ideas" will indeed be swept under the rug by Disney. Even the good stuff, fair or not, is tainted by association, and wont be used by other films in the genre anytime soon for fear of being compared to this mediocre bomb.
Its a free country of course, but expect a similar response every time you speak positively about a movie that many many people consider to be a dull, middling failure. Btw this includes people who are generally fans of scifi/fantasy/Howard/Stanton etc.
Chewy
07-27-2012, 03:23 PM
And my point was that you're wrong. You know how many of your favorite actors have, at one point or another, starred in a critical and financial failure? All of them. Unless the movie was sold on their name, which JC was for Kitsch and was not for everyone else, it won't even really be a blip on the radar. Do you remember Kiss Kiss Bang Bang bombing right before Marvel hired RDJ? Do you remember The Losers bombing right before Marvel hired Chris Evans? Do you remember when Timothy Olyphant, who I believe is your choice for Star-Lord, was the star of the hilariously dreadful Hitman? Actors move on, and they get other roles.
And, anyway, the point I was making with the costume was it being an example of an actress showing some skin, with it being done in a tasteful, rather than exploitative, manner. It really had nothing to do with JC specifically.
Joeyjojo72
07-27-2012, 05:08 PM
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was a good movie. The Losers was a fun, competently made actioner that ultimately failed to adequately distinguish itself. Box office success can be elusive, and a movie that doesnt make money can still be a springboard/showcase for talented artists.
JC was a bad movie, with bland lead performances, terrible pacing issues, and derivative characters and story. The best parts of that movie, the actual "good" stuff, has been done before, and much better. It deserved to bomb. Obviously you disagree, but this is the consensus.
Perhaps some day, far into the future, certain aspects of JC will be used as inspiration for future films. I have no idea why, given that the best parts werent particulary original in the first place, but its certainly possible. But that day isnt today, or next month, or next year. And thank god, because theres nothing from JC that I want to see in a Marvel/GotG movie, including the director/actors/art/story/costumes. (That said, I am a huge fan of Stanton's Pixar work. Unfortunately, he's no Brad Bird)
If the folks involved in GotG want to take inspiration from Burroughs work, thats great. Plenty of comic writers "borrowed" stuff from Burroughs and Robert Howard and other adventure writers, but theres no upside to mining the corpse of JC while the stench still remains.
On topic: The casting for this movie is rumored to begin next week, so the lobbying for Patton/Dawson/??? begins now.
Chewy
07-27-2012, 05:26 PM
I love how you keep insisting that your opinion is the consensus. One of the more fruitless discussions I've had on SHH :)
Anyway, why would a movie that doesn't have a director yet be casting?
KangConquers
07-27-2012, 05:56 PM
I love how you keep insisting that your opinion is the consensus. One of the more fruitless discussions I've had on SHH :)
Anyway, why would a movie that doesn't have a director yet be casting?
Way to just derail my thread...jerk...of course no one's casting yet. *shakes fist in righteous anger*
Chewy
07-27-2012, 05:59 PM
Sorry, I'll rerail it
So, Gamora's wearing pants in the concept art. Discuss.
KangConquers
07-27-2012, 06:42 PM
Apparently.
So what story arc does everyone want to see Gamora have? I kind of like the idea that she's a plant on the team, being Thanos's daughter/ personal assassin, who's conscience gets the best of her, resulting in her going from a spy to a real member.
Joeyjojo72
07-27-2012, 06:52 PM
I did say it was a rumor.
Sorry for coming of as jerky. Ill check back when there are more than a handful of voices in here. Six months should do it.
Have fun.
JB-the-Hunter
07-27-2012, 10:43 PM
JC was a bad movie, with bland lead performances, terrible pacing issues, and derivative characters and story. The best parts of that movie, the actual "good" stuff, has been done before, and much better. It deserved to bomb. Obviously you disagree, but this is the consensus.
Actually the consensus is "While John Carter looks terrific and delivers its share of pulpy thrills, it also suffers from uneven pacing and occasionally incomprehensible plotting and characterization."
and 63% of the audience liked it. Not to mention most people who initially saw the movie said they loved it.
cherokeesam
07-27-2012, 11:28 PM
Apparently.
So what story arc does everyone want to see Gamora have? I kind of like the idea that she's a plant on the team, being Thanos's daughter/ personal assassin, who's conscience gets the best of her, resulting in her going from a spy to a real member.
TERRIBLE idea! They've already got one plant on the team: Groot. Having another plant/tree/vegetable/fruit would make Groot superfluous.
KangConquers
07-28-2012, 06:40 AM
TERRIBLE idea! They've already got one plant on the team: Groot. Having another plant/tree/vegetable/fruit would make Groot superfluous.
:doh:
chronos
07-28-2012, 02:27 PM
Ha! "Plant". Anyway, if you are going to go with the backstory of her being Thanos's assassin, I'd rather her role be more of an atoner looking for revenge on Thanos for making her kill so many innocents. Also I asked this in another thread, but I'll bring it up here, too. Does anybody think that they'll transplant the storyline of her being Nova's bang-buddy to Star-lord?
Captain Marvel
07-28-2012, 03:44 PM
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
I quite literally burst out laughing. Thank you, sir.
KangConquers
07-28-2012, 03:52 PM
Ha! "Plant". Anyway, if you are going to go with the backstory of her being Thanos's assassin, I'd rather her role be more of an atoner looking for revenge on Thanos for making her kill so many innocents.
The atonement story is nice, but it's a little less active in my opinion. It's more tell than show, which runs contrary to good story telling technique. Showing Gamora losing her nerve, realizing her father's corruption, etc would make for more compelling cinema than flashbacks or long winded speeches about all the wrong she's done in her past.
Also I asked this in another thread, but I'll bring it up here, too. Does anybody think that they'll transplant the storyline of her being Nova's bang-buddy to Star-lord?
Gamora has to be sleeping with someone. Quill fits the bill.
Captain Marvel
07-28-2012, 04:01 PM
Who says he has to be sleeping with anyone? Black Widow wasn't sleeping with anyone in the Avengers.
chronos
07-28-2012, 04:16 PM
Not that we know of, haha. Seriously she doesn't have to. But I could see Gamora knocking boots with Quill, as a no strings attached kind of thing. She's done it in the books before. As long as they don't turn her into a love interest. Gamora's not the romantic type.
KangConquers
07-28-2012, 04:37 PM
Not that we know of, haha. Seriously she doesn't have to. But I could see Gamora knocking boots with Quill, as a no strings attached kind of thing. She's done it in the books before. As long as they don't turn her into a love interest. Gamora's not the romantic type.
Exactly. And honestly? Neither is Quill. I think the only character you can really have Gamora fall for other than just "knocking boots" with is Warlock.
Chewy
07-28-2012, 08:33 PM
Rocket Raccoon :oldrazz:
Captain Marvel
07-28-2012, 08:40 PM
Eh, I'd rather not see her engaged in any kind of no-strings whatever relationship. I'd rather the audience see her as the deadliest woman in the galaxy, not the skankiest one. :P
cherokeesam
07-28-2012, 09:27 PM
Eh, I'd rather not see her engaged in any kind of no-strings whatever relationship. I'd rather the audience see her as the deadliest woman in the galaxy, not the skankiest one. :P
Why would a relationship with the hero make her (or any woman) a skank....? :huh:
Love interests are a staple in ALL forms of fiction. The relationship doesn't have to dominate the story and turn it into a Harlequin Romance Novel or Lifetime Movie of the Week, but it's generally accepted that the hero needs a main squeeze, and it's pretty damn sexy when that squeeze is also a deadly femme fatale.
I'd be willing to bet that the film actually begins with Peter Quill as an ordinary guy on Earth, and he gets transported into this distant and dangerous quadrant of the galaxy; so it's likely that his meeting with Gamora will turn into a boy-meets-(alien)girl type scenario.
Captain Marvel
07-29-2012, 07:45 AM
There were talking about a no strings kind of deal, which is fare for an Ashton Kutcher film.
Nathan
07-29-2012, 08:21 AM
Eh, I'd rather not see her engaged in any kind of no-strings whatever relationship. I'd rather the audience see her as the deadliest woman in the galaxy, not the skankiest one. :P
But it's ok for James Bond to be a manwhore? Why is it that when a man keeps sleeping around, he's a stud, but a woman is a skank?
metaphysician
07-29-2012, 11:27 AM
But it's ok for James Bond to be a manwhore? Why is it that when a man keeps sleeping around, he's a stud, but a woman is a skank?
Say hello to the double standard found in pretty much every society in the world.
Captain Marvel
07-29-2012, 11:30 AM
But it's ok for James Bond to be a manwhore? Why is it that when a man keeps sleeping around, he's a stud, but a woman is a skank?
Says the guy whose avatar features a close-up shot of a woman's breasts. :P
Joeyjojo72
08-07-2012, 02:45 PM
This is a completely moot point at this juncture, but I think they shouldve gone with Moondragon instead of Gamora. Gamora and Drax are similar in a lot of ways, but Moondragon has distinct powers and a connection to Drax, Thanos, and the Eternals. Oh well.
Still looking forward to seeing Gamora on the big screen. Maybe they can squeeze in Moondragon in the 3rd act, a subplot for Drax.
KangConquers
08-07-2012, 02:49 PM
This is a completely moot point at this juncture, but I think they shouldve gone with Moondragon instead of Gamora. Gamora and Drax are similar in a lot of ways, but Moondragon has distinct powers and a connection to Drax, Thanos, and the Eternals. Oh well.
Still looking forward to seeing Gamora on the big screen. Maybe they can squeeze in Moondragon in the 3rd act, a subplot for Drax.
Problem is Gamora is the team's best connection to Thanos.
Joeyjojo72
08-07-2012, 03:28 PM
Wasnt Drax created for the sole purpose of killing Thanos? And Moondragon was rescued by Thanos' father, among other connections. Again its moot, but connections to Thanos arent the issue.
My point was that shes more interesting than Gamora, with a more distinct power set. Hopefully she will play a role at some point in the future.
KangConquers
08-07-2012, 03:50 PM
Wasnt Drax created for the sole purpose of killing Thanos? And Moondragon was rescued by Thanos' father, among other connections. Again its moot, but connections to Thanos arent the issue.
My point was that shes more interesting than Gamora, with a more distinct power set. Hopefully she will play a role at some point in the future.
Gamora is Thanos's Daughter. Point. Set. Match.
I also consider Moondragon a highly unlikeable character. Interesting, but unlikeable.
Joeyjojo72
08-07-2012, 04:03 PM
O-kay then.
Chewy
08-07-2012, 04:22 PM
Plus it'll be nice to finally get a superpowered female who kicks ass
KangConquers
08-07-2012, 07:14 PM
O-kay then.
She was an Avenger for a bit, during which she was a condescending *****. She found out she wasn't the celestial madonna, so she left the Avengers...and attacked them under the influence of a demon twice. Then she stalked Quasar, demanding she enseminate her so she could prove she was, in fact, the celestial Madonna.
No, Moondragon isn't very likeable.
cherokeesam
08-07-2012, 10:07 PM
Gamora is Thanos's Daughter. Point. Set. Match.
I also consider Moondragon a highly unlikeable character. Interesting, but unlikeable.
Plus, there's a definite dichotomy between Drax and Gamora --- Drax is the assassin sent to kill Thanos, and Gamora is more or less protective of him.
And ditto on Moondragon being unlikeable. I hated her in GOTG, I hated her in Infinity Watch, I hated her in the Avengers, I hated her in The Defenders. She's never been an appealing character.
Joeyjojo72
08-08-2012, 12:46 AM
Eh, the modern iteration of her is pretty generic personality-wise and skillset-wise. Starlin referred to the new version as a fanboy sex fantasy (im paraphrasing), but that was probably sour grapes. Nothing wrong with sexy, though theyre def gonna tone it down.
My guess is they will give her a more distinct character and her backstory will be different from the comics. The casting will be crucial of course.
Id also like to see Mantis at some point down the road. Probably a long shot.
Im curious if theyre gonna have potential team-members as minor characters. Adam Warlock is the obvious candidate, though Mantis or Moondragon would be cool. Most likely none of the above.
MarvelKnight
08-08-2012, 01:00 PM
I am becoming a fan of Rosario Dawson for the role.. We'll see what happens!
Captain Marvel
08-08-2012, 02:09 PM
I just hope that Moondragon has hair if/when she appears. The whole baldness thing never appealed to me, although I do generally like her otherwise.
MarvelKnight
08-08-2012, 02:25 PM
Maybe start her out with hair and then give her the bald look after an encounter with thanos and/or his minions or whoever they are going to be fighting.
I don't know much about her but from the few things I read I was surprised to realize she is actually born on earth.
Silvermoth
08-09-2012, 05:17 AM
Whatever happened to Eva Mendes? She sort of dropped off the face of the world.
I liked her. She was good in Hitch and did her best with Ghost Rider.
KangConquers
08-09-2012, 10:38 AM
No more Moondragon talk in my Gamora thread...if anything she belongs in the Drax thread.
cherokeesam
08-09-2012, 09:55 PM
No more Moondragon talk in my Gamora thread...if anything she belongs in the Drax thread.
Somebody make a Moondragon thread. Call it "Ol' Baldy" or something. :oldrazz:
MarvelKnight
08-10-2012, 01:09 AM
Somebody make a Moondragon thread. Call it "Ol' Baldy" or something. :oldrazz:
:up: to the MD thread name.
Lynn Collins would be a solid choice for Gamora as well.
OsGom
08-17-2012, 08:48 PM
I am becoming a fan of Rosario Dawson for the role.. We'll see what happens!
I'm not opposed to this casting choice for Gamora. She looks exotic enough.
KangConquers
08-30-2012, 10:59 AM
I'm really not fond of Rosario Dawson as Gamora. People keep pointing out her role in Sin City, but I thought the character and her performance was silly, stylized and ridiculous. Nothing about it was "Gamora" to me.
Joeyjojo72
08-30-2012, 12:44 PM
Eh to each his own. I wouldnt look at Sin CIty at all personally. Hugely overrated movie. But she's a good actress who can pull off the crazy costuming.
Jake Cassidy
08-30-2012, 03:35 PM
Isn't all of Sin City silly, stylised and ridiculous?
Chewy
08-30-2012, 03:38 PM
Yeah Sin City is camp start to finish. Not really fair to judge an actor based on their performance in it imo
KangConquers
08-30-2012, 05:26 PM
Yeah Sin City is camp start to finish. Not really fair to judge an actor based on their performance in it imo
So on what basis is Rosario Dawson the right choice for Gamora? Cause it usually comes down to "She carried a sword around and had an attitude in Sin City." Same thing with Lynn Collins. Apparently, having held a sword makes you a perfect choice for Gamora.:wow:
Chewy
08-30-2012, 05:38 PM
She's tall, statuesque, and has given a variety of memorable performances
Silvermoth
08-31-2012, 05:33 AM
Yeah, what Chewy said. Rosario Dawson has not only proved herself an excellent actress but a swell human being too. There's no reason to loose your rag because you think people are just casting Gail from Sin City.
I'ld love to see Rosario in a film like this. Not only is she tough but she's funny too which is perfect for a movie like this. It also broke my heart a little when she said she thought she would never be a star because at 35 she's too old to become one.
KangConquers
08-31-2012, 01:00 PM
Yeah, what Chewy said. Rosario Dawson has not only proved herself an excellent actress but a swell human being too. There's no reason to loose your rag because you think people are just casting Gail from Sin City.
I'ld love to see Rosario in a film like this. Not only is she tough but she's funny too which is perfect for a movie like this. It also broke my heart a little when she said she thought she would never be a star because at 35 she's too old to become one.
She's probably too old to be Gamora, at any rate.
Though I'm not shedding any tears for her. (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/rosario-dawson-net-worth/)
Joeyjojo72
08-31-2012, 01:37 PM
My choice of Dawson has nothing to do with Sin City. I think shes a very good actress, charming witty in "person", with the right physicality. Her age isnt an issue. Shes a young looking 33 (as opposed to a very old looking 34 a la Lynn Collins). I dont seen Gamora as a young woman anyway. Definitely has some mileage.
Casting based on past experience with a sword or leather skirts is just dumb. The Wonder Woman board suffers from this idea. Acting ability and screen presence are absolutely crucial to pull off these movies. Casting someone because they were on some syndicated fantasy show or because they look just like the generic comic book version of the character or because they played a similar character in a previous movie makes no sense. You get the very best talent available, you thoroughly test screen, and you go from there.
Typecasting always plays some part, but its not nearly as important as acting chops. Nor is physical appearance. That said, I think Rosario has both. Im sure there are other good options, but shes at the top of my current list.
KangConquers
08-31-2012, 01:59 PM
My choice of Dawson has nothing to do with Sin City. I think shes a very good actress, charming witty in "person", with the right physicality. Her age isnt an issue. Shes a young looking 33 (as opposed to a very old looking 34 a la Lynn Collins). I dont seen Gamora as a young woman anyway. Definitely has some mileage.
Casting based on past experience with a sword or leather skirts is just dumb. The Wonder Woman board suffers from this idea. Acting ability and screen presence are absolutely crucial to pull off these movies. Casting someone because they were on some syndicated fantasy show or because they look just like the generic comic book version of the character or because they played a similar character in a previous movie makes no sense. You get the very best talent available, you thoroughly test screen, and you go from there.
Typecasting always plays some part, but its not nearly as important as acting chops. Nor is physical appearance. That said, I think Rosario has both. Im sure there are other good options, but shes at the top of my current list.
In Avengers Annual 7, she is referred to as Thanos's "Young assistant." The implication is that she's probably in her late teens-early 20s. She's probably late 20s in the comics now, but she's not mid or late 30s.
That said, my worry isn't Rosario now. It's Rosario 8 years from now, in GoTG 3 (if such a thing happens.)
Joeyjojo72
08-31-2012, 06:31 PM
Im hoping the MCU version is mid thirties (or the alien equivalent). If she's 41 by the end of a trilogy, thats fine as long as she's in reasonable shape. But Im only concerned about the current movie.
KangConquers
08-31-2012, 06:47 PM
Im hoping the MCU version is mid thirties (or the alien equivalent). If she's 41 by the end of a trilogy, thats fine as long as she's in reasonable shape. But Im only concerned about the current movie.
I'd rather see a young Gamora so we could see her grow from an assassin for the most despicable being in the universe, into a hero over the course of the films vs. Having her already an experienced good guy, who's past we learn about through wooden expository dialog and the occasional flashback.
Show, don't tell; It results in a more compelling cinematic experience.
Chewy
08-31-2012, 07:18 PM
A 30 year old can't decide to stop assassinating and do good stuff? What's the age cut-off for major life decisions?
KangConquers
08-31-2012, 07:31 PM
A 35 year old can't decide to stop assassinating and do good stuff? What's the age cut-off for major life decisions?
Well, we don't want this to be her mid-life crisis...The cosmic equivalent of buying that really gaudy sports car she always wanted...
Joeyjojo72
08-31-2012, 11:31 PM
age isnt an issue. a young gamora or an older gamora could both work. flashbacks or "wooden" dialogue arent necessary either way. good or even mediocre writers will have no problems. more than one or two ways to skin a cat. if the script is good, thats all that matters.
the quality of the movie wont hinge on these kinds of details. all i care about is the quality of the final product. frankly im still shocked/elated that they're actually making this crazy movie. i say the more artistic license is taken, the better. given that 99% of the target audience (everybody) has never heard of GotG, they shouldnt feel overly constrained by the source material.
pr0xyt0xin
09-05-2012, 01:06 AM
At the risk of sounding like a racist, ... -_- maybe i should stop right there.
lol jk, what if Mantis is included as a background character? do you think Gamora, Drax and Mantis will all have a green hue to their skin?
I assume Mantis will just have a standard Vietnamese skin tone. While Gamora will be the full-on alien. But subtle like in the concept art.
Chewy
09-05-2012, 11:34 AM
It's kind of the same issue as the X-Men mostly looking human, except for Mystique, Nightcrawler, Beast, Archangel, Apocalypse, etc all being... blue
The best way to handle it, imo, is to use different shades and textures. Maybe a slightly bluish-green for Gamora, a darker green for Drax, and a paler green for Mantis
KangConquers
09-05-2012, 11:55 AM
Edit: Never mind it's been said.
jyd_me
09-10-2012, 01:57 PM
Pretty sure some will disagree, but I think Brooklyn Decker will be a good choice.
KangConquers
09-10-2012, 02:30 PM
Just saw Battle****. Couldn't agree less.
Dark Raven
09-20-2012, 06:27 AM
It's kind of the same issue as the X-Men mostly looking human, except for Mystique, Nightcrawler, Beast, Archangel, Apocalypse, etc all being... blue
The best way to handle it, imo, is to use different shades and textures. Maybe a slightly bluish-green for Gamora, a darker green for Drax, and a paler green for Mantis
I would rather Mantis is not green but just olive skinned. I prefer that look where she has the yellow and green grass skirt and impossible bra costume but normal human skin. That will distinguish her from Gamora as well, otherwise there are just too many green-skinned people when it isn't necessary for Mantis to be that, and will make Gamora less unique.
I prefer Gamora to be younger than older. I don't like Rosario Dawson for the role. Not that keen on Lynn Collins either. I think with Gamora, any of these women we've fan-casted for the role of WW could potentially work - at least those who are younger but might not be completely perfect for Diana.
I hope she looks as good in green skin make up as any of these recent Orion Slave Girls from Star Trek. Not so sure though that Rachel Nichols looked quite as good in the green make up as some of the girls used on Enterprise, maybe because they looked more statueque and their hair (wigs) was possibly darker.
KangConquers
09-20-2012, 11:44 AM
I would rather Mantis is not green but just olive skinned. I prefer that look where she has the yellow and green grass skirt and impossible bra costume but normal human skin. That will distinguish her from Gamora as well, otherwise there are just too many green-skinned people when it isn't necessary for Mantis to be that, and will make Gamora less unique.
I prefer Gamora to be younger than older. I don't like Rosario Dawson for the role. Not that keen on Lynn Collins either. I think with Gamora, any of these women we've fan-casted for the role of WW could potentially work - at least those who are younger but might not be completely perfect for Diana.
I hope she looks as good in green skin make up as any of these recent Orion Slave Girls from Star Trek. Not so sure though that Rachel Nichols looked quite as good in the green make up as some of the girls used on Enterprise, maybe because they looked more statueque and their hair (wigs) was possibly darker.
A big problem for comic book movie casting is people intuitively try to cast the character where they are now. In the comics now? Gamora does have some experience etc.
What you have to cast is first appearance Gamora, who was written as barely an adult. I'm not saying cast a 21 year old as Gamora, I'm just saying you can't cast a 40 year old. I'd cast Gamora in the same age range that Captain America and Thor were cast, 25-30.
Just thought I'd throw this out there, what about Jamie Chung as Gamora?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8oDSU8Eliyc/TjeArUA2hqI/AAAAAAAABg8/TdR7Xfsonz4/s1600/Jamie+Chung+%25281%2529.png
http://cdn03.cdn.egotastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/7557_jamie-chung-boxing-maxim-outtakes-02-675x900.jpg
jaqua99
09-26-2012, 05:39 PM
idk, but that girl in your avy has the prettiest eyes...
cherokeesam
09-26-2012, 05:39 PM
Thank you for throwing that out there. ;)
She looks hot, no doubt; but can she play a badass? I know nothing about her acting.
AVEITWITHJAMON
09-27-2012, 04:45 AM
Just thought I'd throw this out there, what about Jamie Chung as Gamora?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8oDSU8Eliyc/TjeArUA2hqI/AAAAAAAABg8/TdR7Xfsonz4/s1600/Jamie+Chung+%25281%2529.png
http://cdn03.cdn.egotastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/7557_jamie-chung-boxing-maxim-outtakes-02-675x900.jpg
Definately approve of this, she is amazingly hot, athletic and can do action. Not a bad actress neither although she has never really been stretched.
Dark Raven
09-27-2012, 08:43 AM
Is Gamora Asian? Those pics of Jamie Chung look like she'd be great as someone like Psylocke, especially with all those bandage wrappings, which is similar to the blue ribbons on Psylocke's costume.
Never seen her act before though. Never heard of her before these pictures.
Definately approve of this, she is amazingly hot, athletic and can do action. Not a bad actress neither although she has never really been stretched.
Thanks :)
cherokeesam
09-27-2012, 02:11 PM
Is Gamora Asian? Those pics of Jamie Chung look like she'd be great as someone like Psylocke, especially with all those bandage wrappings, which is similar to the blue ribbons on Psylocke's costume.
Never seen her act before though. Never heard of her before these pictures.
Gamora is alien. So pretty much any ethnicity could play her.
Joeyjojo72
09-27-2012, 02:48 PM
Yeah race is wide open. In fact, I really don't care what race any of the actors are as long as they can act and are right for the part.
Chewy
09-27-2012, 04:36 PM
Yeah race is wide open. In fact, I really don't care what race any of the actors are as long as they can act and are right for the part.
Yep.
Although I'm not sold on Chung. Never watched her in a movie and came out impressed by her performance. She's just... there.
Which isn't to say she couldn't work. Might just need the right material.
Dark Raven
09-27-2012, 04:45 PM
Yep.
Although I'm not sold on Chung. Never watched her in a movie and came out impressed by her performance. She's just... there.
Which isn't to say she couldn't work. Might just need the right material.
Sounds like Kristin Kreuk then.
Chewy
09-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Kreuk is out-and-out bad. I wouldn't really say that about Chung.
KangConquers
09-28-2012, 09:47 PM
I try doing this in a lot of casting threads, to mixed results...but who do you guys think are actors/ actresses Marvel will probably consider for the role?
Marvel has been hot on the trails of both Alice Eve and Emily Blunt for several years. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them at least winds up in the running for Gamora.
Chewy
09-28-2012, 10:04 PM
If I'm being honest, I'll be surprised if it's someone other than Olivia Wilde.
Marvel has definitely been after Alice Eve, I was kinda hoping she'd be Sue Storm as she's a little on the short side for Carol, although I wouldn't mind that honestly
KangConquers
09-28-2012, 10:43 PM
Marvel has definitely been after Alice Eve, I was kinda hoping she'd be Sue Storm as she's a little on the short side for Carol, although I wouldn't mind that honestly
I'm frankly shocked they didn't try to jump Alice Eve for Sharon Carter in Cap 2. I think Alice Eve has a great shot, as does Blunt. I think all either of those actresses simply have to approach Marvel and they'll hand them both roles.
As for other actresses that might wind up Gamora, I think Adrianne Palicki might be looked at, despite some fans objections. Olivia Wilde will probably looked at, though I think she's entirely too skinny, and would have to gain at least 15 lbs of muscle before she could even start to be taken seriously as a super heroine.
It'll be interesting to see if Gamora is a role where they find an unknown, or use a more established name to lend the film some star power.
KangConquers
09-28-2012, 10:45 PM
If I'm being honest, I'll be surprised if it's someone other than Olivia Wilde.
Any particular reason? You and I don't always see eye to eye, but you back your opinions up intelligently. I'm curious why you think she'll get it...and I'm just bored and need some GoTG speculation.
Chewy
09-28-2012, 11:42 PM
Any particular reason? You and I don't always see eye to eye, but you back your opinions up intelligently. I'm curious why you think she'll get it...and I'm just bored and need some GoTG speculation.
She's around the right age, she's fairly tall, she's right on that cusp of fame where she wouldn't be expensive but she would bring name recognition to the role. And she's still looking for that "franchise" role, unlike Eve (who's in Star Trek)
I think I said earlier in this thread that I'm not sure she's right for the role, physically. But I think realistically that's who we're looking at, and she would probably do a great job.
KangConquers
09-29-2012, 09:11 AM
She's around the right age, she's fairly tall, she's right on that cusp of fame where she wouldn't be expensive but she would bring name recognition to the role. And she's still looking for that "franchise" role, unlike Eve (who's in Star Trek)
I think I said earlier in this thread that I'm not sure she's right for the role, physically. But I think realistically that's who we're looking at, and she would probably do a great job.
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Agreed on all points. She just needs to hit the gym, and she'd be a fine choice.
SuperSAINT
09-29-2012, 11:35 AM
I'd be happy with Olivia Wilde. She's gorgeous, and there is something 'other-worldly' about her (And yes, I thought that before Cowboys & Aliens).
How about Evangeline Lilly?
Chewy
09-29-2012, 01:50 PM
She'll be filming Hobbit next summer and that's probably when Guardians will shoot.
KangConquers
09-29-2012, 01:59 PM
She'll be filming Hobbit next summer and that's probably when Guardians will shoot.
It'd be interesting to check the schedules of more of the fan-cast Gamoras, see who will be available for Guardians.
KangConquers
09-29-2012, 03:50 PM
Gamora's origin for those who aren't familiar.
Gamora was the sole survivor of the alien humanoid race called the Zen Whoberis, a peace-loving people who refused to convert to the militaristic doctrines of the Universal Church of Truth, a zealous religious order seeking to establish a galaxy-wide empire. Agents of the Church, called Grand Inquisitors, herded the entire population of the planet in to a valley and exterminated them for their resistance. The mad Titan Thanos rescued Gamora and brought her through time to a period at least two decades prior to her people’s deaths. Aboard his space station Sanctuary, Thanos raised Gamora and used advanced technology to endow her with advanced humanoid abilities. He also subtly altered her perceptions so that she would not recognize the evil of her deeds.
Am I the only one who thinks that her origin can be simplified just a hair? Discussion in another thread about Drax's origin lead me to bringing this up over here.
They could just say she's Thanos daughter and leave it at that
Captain Marvel
09-29-2012, 04:27 PM
They could just say she's Thanos daughter and leave it at that
No, because that runs completely contrary to Thanos's character. He worships Death. He would never, ever, do anything that could result in life being created. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the guy's a virgin.
http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad9/ThorOdinson/Thanos01.jpg
Captain Marvel
09-29-2012, 04:34 PM
Gamora's origin for those who aren't familiar.
Gamora was the sole survivor of the alien humanoid race called the Zen Whoberis, a peace-loving people who refused to convert to the militaristic doctrines of the Universal Church of Truth, a zealous religious order seeking to establish a galaxy-wide empire. Agents of the Church, called Grand Inquisitors, herded the entire population of the planet in to a valley and exterminated them for their resistance. The mad Titan Thanos rescued Gamora and brought her through time to a period at least two decades prior to her people’s deaths. Aboard his space station Sanctuary, Thanos raised Gamora and used advanced technology to endow her with advanced humanoid abilities. He also subtly altered her perceptions so that she would not recognize the evil of her deeds.
Am I the only one who thinks that her origin can be simplified just a hair? Discussion in another thread about Drax's origin lead me to bringing this up over here.
The bolded parts are unnecessary. Other then that, though, it's perfectly fine. It'd be especially fitting if the Universal Church of Truth were the villains movies. Not only would that provide a chance for Marvel to show off Thanos's capabilities WITHOUT having him beat the tar out of the Guardians of the Galaxy, as he'd be working with them in some way to fight against the Universal Church of Truth. It'd also include a character who has a personal stake in the fight, as her race was slaughtered by the villains in the movie.
KangConquers
09-29-2012, 04:41 PM
The bolded parts are unnecessary. Other then that, though, it's perfectly fine. It'd be especially fitting if the Universal Church of Truth were the villains movies. Not only would that provide a chance for Marvel to show off Thanos's capabilities WITHOUT having him beat the tar out of the Guardians of the Galaxy, as he'd be working with them in some way to fight against the Universal Church of Truth. It'd also include a character who has a personal stake in the fight, as her race was slaughtered by the villains in the movie.
I guess my biggest problem was Thanos time travelling into the distant future, plucking Gamora out of it, travelling 20 years into our past, raising the infant into a young adult (take note fan-casters, 20 years old, not 37.)
No, because that runs completely contrary to Thanos's character. He worships Death. He would never, ever, do anything that could result in life being created. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the guy's a virgin.
http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad9/ThorOdinson/Thanos01.jpg
I know I was just making it super simple, they could also say she is the last of a race destroyed by Thanos, who tarveled planet to planet learning the deadliest martial arts in the universe in order to one day kill him.
Captain Marvel
09-29-2012, 10:17 PM
I know I was just making it super simple, they could also say she is the last of a race destroyed by Thanos, who tarveled planet to planet learning the deadliest martial arts in the universe in order to one day kill him.
Yeah, but that would run completely contrary to their relationship, which is kind of a father-daugther thing, up until she realizes just how evil he is and turns on him. Her acting as his agent for a while is much more interesting. Besides, that's Drax's backstory. He's the one whose sole purpose for existing is to kill Thanos. One such character is more than enough.
I guess my biggest problem was Thanos time travelling into the distant future, plucking Gamora out of it, travelling 20 years into our past, raising the infant into a young adult (take note fan-casters, 20 years old, not 37.)
The quote you posted doesn't say two decades. It said "at least two decades." It's just saying that she's older than 20, not that she is 20.
But yeah, it's easier to just say Thanos picked her up years ago rather than traveling forward in time, grabbing her, and then traveling back in time. Just say Gamora was born sometime around 1980-1990 and you're set.
KangConquers
09-30-2012, 01:26 AM
Yeah, but that would run completely contrary to their relationship, which is kind of a father-daugther thing, up until she realizes just how evil he is and turns on him. Her acting as his agent for a while is much more interesting. Besides, that's Drax's backstory. He's the one whose sole purpose for existing is to kill Thanos. One such character is more than enough.
The quote you posted doesn't say two decades. It said "at least two decades." It's just saying that she's older than 20, not that she is 20.
But yeah, it's easier to just say Thanos picked her up years ago rather than traveling forward in time, grabbing her, and then traveling back in time. Just say Gamora was born sometime around 1980-1990 and you're set.
That's basically the age range I want the actress in. 1980-1990 birth. Her age shouldn't be addressed unless they need her for some "long ago" setup, in which case they can say Zen Whobis age at a quarter the rate of earthlings or whatever.
I also think it's really important that they emphasize the fact that Gamora is adopted. The idea of Thanos siring a child undermines his worship of Death, as it would be bringing new life into the universe. This is a specifically mentioned concept in Marvel canon, where he punishes Nebula for claiming to be his grand-daughter, saying he would never have children.
Guardian Outlaw
10-11-2012, 05:21 PM
Eve Torres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Torres) as Gamora
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/Guardian_Outlaw/EveTorresasGamora.jpg
SuperSAINT
10-12-2012, 05:45 AM
Eve Torres no doubt looks the part, but I’d rather take even a left-field actress choice like Jessica Chastain over an non-actress who looks like Gamora.
cherokeesam
10-12-2012, 07:02 AM
Eve Torres no doubt looks the part, but I’d rather take even a left-field actress choice like Jessica Chastain over an non-actress who looks like Gamora.
Agreed.
Looks are damned important for a lot of superheroine roles, including Gamora, but a lot of them need to be a lot more than just a pretty face and a nice rack. Whoever plays Gamora needs to bring intensity and badassery, not just babe factor.
Guardian Outlaw
10-12-2012, 09:04 AM
Eve Torres no doubt looks the part, but I’d rather take even a left-field actress choice like Jessica Chastain over an non-actress who looks like Gamora.
Agreed.
Looks are damned important for a lot of superheroine roles, including Gamora, but a lot of them need to be a lot more than just a pretty face and a nice rack. Whoever plays Gamora needs to bring intensity and badassery, not just babe factor.
Idk if you guys know who Eve Torres is or not but she is indeed an actress. She does acting for WWE. She holds the WWE Diva Champion's Belt and they hold most of the screen time out of all the Divas. Therefore a Diva who holds the belt must be a good actress or else they wouldn't have the screen time at all. Mind you, she's a 3x belt holder. So in regards to the acting factor, Eve Torres has the experience in acting (and ofc kickingass).
BoredGuy
10-12-2012, 10:13 AM
^^Lmao right now
'She's a WWE Diva, she must be a good actress!'
:lmao:
KangConquers
10-12-2012, 10:30 AM
How powerful do you guys want Gamora to be? In the comics, she's varied from Captain America "Peak athlete" type, to being able to knock out She-Hulk. I personally would prefer her at a more manageable level of strength.
cherokeesam
10-12-2012, 12:10 PM
I don't want her to be Hulk-level, but maybe She-Hulk level. Superheroines are hard to come by in the MCU (so far), so I'd love to see one who's got genuine powers.
I want her stronger than peak human but not she hulk strong. Maybe spidey level strength
Guardian Outlaw
10-12-2012, 01:12 PM
^^Lmao right now
'She's a WWE Diva, she must be a good actress!'
:lmao:
Not just any Diva, a 3x Champion. I don't know if you've realized it yet but WWE isn't real. They're all actors and actresses. Why do you think John Cena was a 10x Champion? More than part of it was his acting skills. The Rock started in WWF and look at him now. Batista's now in the Man with the Iron Fists movie coming soon. Then there is that other guy on Expendables. The point I'm getting at, anyone who can hold a Championship Belt in WWE longer than 2 reigns means that they are a pretty good enough actor. Eve Torres has the most reigns out of any other Diva Champion and she's still growing. She is an actress who I can see play the part of Gamora very well and fit right into the role smoothly.
Before Thor came out, has anyone heard of Chris Hemsworth or Tom Hiddleston? Eve Torres has more popularity than either of them from before the Thor: The Movie came out.
How powerful do you guys want Gamora to be? In the comics, she's varied from Captain America "Peak athlete" type, to being able to knock out She-Hulk. I personally would prefer her at a more manageable level of strength.
She would have to be at the level below She-Hulk's strength cuz come on, Gamora is a trained assassin with weapons, she'll be to powerful if she's at She-Hulk lvl. However what Gamora has, neither Hulk nor She-Hulk has, and that's an assassin lvl fighting skill. Gamora's a trained assassin so her focus would be more on fighting skill than strength.
BoredGuy
10-12-2012, 02:03 PM
Not just any Diva, a 3x Champion. I don't know if you've realized it yet but WWE isn't real. They're all actors and actresses. Why do you think John Cena was a 10x Champion? More than part of it was his acting skills. The Rock started in WWF and look at him now. Batista's now in the Man with the Iron Fists movie coming soon. Then there is that other guy on Expendables. The point I'm getting at, anyone who can hold a Championship Belt in WWE longer than 2 reigns means that they are a pretty good enough actor. Eve Torres has the most reigns out of any other Diva Champion and she's still growing. She is an actress who I can see play the part of Gamora very well and fit right into the role smoothly.
Before Thor came out, has anyone heard of Chris Hemsworth or Tom Hiddleston? Eve Torres has more popularity than either of them from before the Thor: The Movie came out.
I just don't even know where to start
Yes, of course I realize that they're not real wrestlers
But I also know they're not real actors, either.
The only person you mentioned there with any sort of acting ability is the Rock, and he has failed to impress outside of SNL, The Rundown, and maybe his minor role in Be Cool, or when he plays basically "The Rock" like in 'the Other Guys'
And Thor is a perfect example of the fact that name recognition isn't necessary to make a good or successful movie.
I'd prefer actors over sports entertainers with a name, anyday
Captain Marvel
10-12-2012, 02:14 PM
Wow, are we equating WWE Championships to winning Emmy's, now? For the love of God, keep wrestlers out of these movies. The only one I'm in favor of is The Rock, who I wouldn't mind seeing as Drax, but he's the exception, not the rule.
CosmicCap
10-12-2012, 05:48 PM
Honestly I hate The Rock as an actor. But he is a wayy better actor than John Cena who almost made me kill myself when I was watching the marine I think it was. Awful movie.
KangConquers
10-12-2012, 08:11 PM
Wow, are we equating WWE Championships to winning Emmy's, now? For the love of God, keep wrestlers out of these movies. The only one I'm in favor of is The Rock, who I wouldn't mind seeing as Drax, but he's the exception, not the rule.
There has to be some trolling element going on.
Guardian Outlaw
10-13-2012, 12:31 AM
I just don't even know where to start
Yes, of course I realize that they're not real wrestlers
But I also know they're not real actors, either.
The only person you mentioned there with any sort of acting ability is the Rock, and he has failed to impress outside of SNL, The Rundown, and maybe his minor role in Be Cool, or when he plays basically "The Rock" like in 'the Other Guys'
And Thor is a perfect example of the fact that name recognition isn't necessary to make a good or successful movie.
I'd prefer actors over sports entertainers with a name, anyday
Have you've seen Eve Torres preform?
Wow, are we equating WWE Championships to winning Emmy's, now? For the love of God, keep wrestlers out of these movies. The only one I'm in favor of is The Rock, who I wouldn't mind seeing as Drax, but he's the exception, not the rule.
1st off, I have no idea where you're getting "equate" from. I'm deff not equating a WWE Champion to an Emmy Nominee. Between those two, you can't compare.
Now the Rock to play Drax would be horrible. The Rock will throw off the vibe Drax brings to the table. Also, seeing that you brought it up, you realize how much money it'll cost to have an Emmy nominee be brought into the movie?
Captain Marvel
10-13-2012, 04:04 AM
Also, seeing that you brought it up, you realize how much money it'll cost to have an Emmy nominee be brought into the movie?
Since when has paycheck ever been tied to the number of Emmy's someones won? For one thing, you win an Emmy for tv work, so that doesn't mean crap in the world of movies. It's an Academy Award that matters. And even if you're an Academy Award winner, it doesn't matter how many you've won if every movie you ever won an Academy Award for was an arthouse flop. Having an Academy Award has NEVER meant that you'd be pulling in the big paydays on future projects. Just ask Ben Kingsley, who did a Uwe Boll movie for a pittance. Nevermind that Marvel has already cast a few Academy Award nominees and winners. Aside from the aformentioned Kingsley, who'll be in Iron Man 3, they've also gotten Anthony Hopkins, Natalie Portman, Jeremy Renner, Mark Ruffalo, etc, and I'm pretty sure they got a bunch of them for pennies in comparison to a lot of stars who've never even come close to getting nominated for an Academy Award. So the idea that Marvel can't get Academy Award winners in their movies, and cheaply, is ludicrous.
Chewy
10-13-2012, 10:19 AM
There has to be some trolling element going on.
I'm like 90% sure there is.
metaphysician
10-13-2012, 11:24 AM
I want her stronger than peak human but not she hulk strong. Maybe spidey level strength
I would say somewhat stronger than this. Maybe about where I'd peg Sif as probably being, not as bricky as Iron Man, but considerably more agile?
Guardian Outlaw
10-13-2012, 09:37 PM
Since when has paycheck ever been tied to the number of Emmy's someones won? For one thing, you win an Emmy for tv work, so that doesn't mean crap in the world of movies. It's an Academy Award that matters. And even if you're an Academy Award winner, it doesn't matter how many you've won if every movie you ever won an Academy Award for was an arthouse flop. Having an Academy Award has NEVER meant that you'd be pulling in the big paydays on future projects. Just ask Ben Kingsley, who did a Uwe Boll movie for a pittance. Nevermind that Marvel has already cast a few Academy Award nominees and winners. Aside from the aformentioned Kingsley, who'll be in Iron Man 3, they've also gotten Anthony Hopkins, Natalie Portman, Jeremy Renner, Mark Ruffalo, etc, and I'm pretty sure they got a bunch of them for pennies in comparison to a lot of stars who've never even come close to getting nominated for an Academy Award. So the idea that Marvel can't get Academy Award winners in their movies, and cheaply, is ludicrous.
Having you said that, I still think Ken Marino would be a good Peter Quill, Joseph Gatt as a good Drax, and Eve Torres as a good Gamora.
Captain Marvel
10-14-2012, 01:16 AM
Never heard of these people. Are they wrestlers? Because if they are I'm hitting the Report Post button.
Joeyjojo72
10-14-2012, 02:35 AM
Lol im also starting to suspect Guardian is a troll of some sort. Im actually giving him credit by suggesting this. rather than take the bait, just gonna take a break from the thread and hope the posts are less cringe-worthy in a couple days. Maybe that was the point? Hmm...
Chewy
10-14-2012, 09:07 AM
Joseph Gatt was one of the stuntmen who played a Frost Giant in Thor. Don't think he's a wrestler, though :oldrazz:
He's not. Jamie is still my Gamora choice
Guardian Outlaw
10-14-2012, 12:26 PM
Never heard of these people. Are they wrestlers? Because if they are I'm hitting the Report Post button.
Ken Marino is a comedian actor and a writer. His in shows like "Party Down", "Children's Hospital", and "Reno 911." For movies, he's been in "Role Models", "Wanderlust", and many more.
Joseph Gatt is a stunt man, an actor, and a voice actor for video games. He was in the Wonder Woman TV movie and Thor. He's going to be in Star Trek 2.
Eve Torres is the only wrestler I've listed.
KangConquers
10-18-2012, 12:59 PM
I really hope Gamora's portrayal cuts closer to her D&N Guardians appearances than her Avengers Assemble ones.
In Avengers Assemble, Thor hits on her, and she's like "Thank you, I'm flattered." It should've been the other way around, with Gamora being like "Hey, tall glass of handsome, want to knock boots?" Gamora needs to be aggressive and sarcastic with a dark wit. I don't want her to be a self-serious, or proper at all.
MarvelKnight
10-18-2012, 05:13 PM
How powerful do you guys want Gamora to be? In the comics, she's varied from Captain America "Peak athlete" type, to being able to knock out She-Hulk. I personally would prefer her at a more manageable level of strength.
No need to make her Hulk like but I think she should be beyond Cap, imho.
KangConquers
10-18-2012, 05:26 PM
No need to make her Hulk like but I think she should be beyond Cap, imho.
Well that's a huge range between a guy who can lift a half ton and one who can lift well over 100 tons.
I think Gamora should be undefined superhuman, and any real strength / lifting scenes should go to Groot.
MarvelKnight
10-18-2012, 05:52 PM
Ok then, I'll be a little more specific. If she were on Earth, she should be able to lift a full-size SUV no problem. So that's roughly 6,000 lbs. being that she is alien I don't find that unbelievable at all. Definitely stronger than cap, but would crumble from even a flick from hulk or thor imho.
But, if they make her unspecified..I suppose that's just fine with me lol.
metaphysician
10-18-2012, 06:05 PM
I'd say she should be brickier, somewhere between Spider-man and Loki. She should be strong and tough enough that, given her skill, she can fight and stand for a while against top class bricks, but that she really does have to dodge and parry; an unrolled blow would be the end of the fight basically.
MarvelKnight
10-18-2012, 06:21 PM
I'd say she should be brickier, somewhere between Spider-man and Loki. She should be strong and tough enough that, given her skill, she can fight and stand for a while against top class bricks, but that she really does have to dodge and parry; an unrolled blow would be the end of the fight basically.
what does brickier, brickish and all those iterations mean. Forgive me if it's a bit noobish, but never heard of that really and see that term being flung around here a lot the last week or so.
KangConquers
10-18-2012, 06:34 PM
I'd say she should be brickier, somewhere between Spider-man and Loki. She should be strong and tough enough that, given her skill, she can fight and stand for a while against top class bricks, but that she really does have to dodge and parry; an unrolled blow would be the end of the fight basically.
She should basically be as strong/ durable as the average Asgardian woman imo. Class 25 strength, bullet proof, and basically unable to be injured by conventional means.
cherokeesam
10-18-2012, 07:55 PM
what does brickier, brickish and all those iterations mean. Forgive me if it's a bit noobish, but never heard of that really and see that term being flung around here a lot the last week or so.
A "brick" is a "character class" in the superhero genre. It's a guy (or girl) whose main focus is being stronger than an ox. Named after Thing, for obvious reasons, but other "bricks" include Hulk, Abomination, She-Hulk, Solomon Grundy, Teen Titans' Cyborg, Colossus, Juggernaut, Rhino, and the like.
AVEITWITHJAMON
10-19-2012, 08:31 AM
I think they should just keep her at the the level she was in Annihilation, she was able to go toe-to-toe with Ronan in that, not to mention was quite an important fighter in Nova's army, I think that is the perfect level for her.
MarvelKnight
10-19-2012, 11:32 AM
A "brick" is a "character class" in the superhero genre. It's a guy (or girl) whose main focus is being stronger than an ox. Named after Thing, for obvious reasons, but other "bricks" include Hulk, Abomination, She-Hulk, Solomon Grundy, Teen Titans' Cyborg, Colossus, Juggernaut, Rhino, and the like.
Learn somethin' new everyday. Thanks
KangConquers
10-19-2012, 12:48 PM
I think they should just keep her at the the level she was in Annihilation, she was able to go toe-to-toe with Ronan in that, not to mention was quite an important fighter in Nova's army, I think that is the perfect level for her.
Not to mention throw Ronan about a half a mile with one hand.
Joeyjojo72
10-19-2012, 01:23 PM
yeah that's too much. they will have to tweak all the characters a fair amount in order to make this work. power levels included. tweak away Marvel!!
KangConquers
10-19-2012, 01:40 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7849646750_31e05458a1_k.jpg
Guardian Outlaw
10-19-2012, 08:12 PM
Gina Carano.
Honestly she is Gamora in real life. I think she's the only one who can pull it off. She might need to work on her acting but she can pull it off.
I really hope Gamora's portrayal cuts closer to her D&N Guardians appearances than her Avengers Assemble ones.
In Avengers Assemble, Thor hits on her, and she's like "Thank you, I'm flattered." It should've been the other way around, with Gamora being like "Hey, tall glass of handsome, want to knock boots?" Gamora needs to be aggressive and sarcastic with a dark wit. I don't want her to be a self-serious, or proper at all.
Deff agree! No other way to have it.
KangConquers
10-19-2012, 09:07 PM
The point of these movies IS the acting though, not the beefcake/ t&a. I think you need to adjust your priorities.
Do you remember Zeus/ aka Tiny Lister? He was in The Dark Knight as the convict who disposed of the switch. He was brought into WWF based on his look in 1989 to wrestle Hulk Hogan, and set up a Wrestlemania VI clash for the WWF Title? The problem? He couldn't wrestle so it never took off.
Putting an actor who can't act in a film is as bad as putting a wrestler who can't wrestle, or a fighter who can't fight. Eve Torres, your shining example, would be as embarrassing to this film as David Arquette was to the WCW World Title when he won it in 2000.
Eve Torres? Would be a complete embarrassment. Gina Carrano? would be a big liability. Find an actress, someone who does this for a living, at the very least.
MarvelKnight
10-19-2012, 10:57 PM
The point of these movies IS the acting though, not the beefcake/ t&a. I think you need to adjust your priorities.
Do you remember Zeus/ aka Tiny Lister? He was in The Dark Knight as the convict who disposed of the switch. He was brought into WWF based on his look in 1989 to wrestle Hulk Hogan, and set up a Wrestlemania VI clash for the WWF Title? The problem? He couldn't wrestle so it never took off.
Putting an actor who can't act in a film is as bad as putting a wrestler who can't wrestle, or a fighter who can't fight. Eve Torres, your shining example, would be as embarrassing to this film as David Arquette was to the WCW World Title when he won it in 2000.
Eve Torres? Would be a complete embarrassment. Gina Carrano? would be a big liability. Find an actress, someone who does this for a living, at the very least.
Truth.
AVEITWITHJAMON
10-20-2012, 08:45 AM
Not to mention throw Ronan about a half a mile with one hand.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7849646750_31e05458a1_k.jpg
Yep, thats the Gamora I want in this movie, if they are going up against Thanos, they need at least 2 heavy hitters, possibly 3, they could be Gamora, Drax and Groot.
Guardian Outlaw
10-20-2012, 11:07 AM
The point of these movies IS the acting though, not the beefcake/ t&a. I think you need to adjust your priorities.
Do you remember Zeus/ aka Tiny Lister? He was in The Dark Knight as the convict who disposed of the switch. He was brought into WWF based on his look in 1989 to wrestle Hulk Hogan, and set up a Wrestlemania VI clash for the WWF Title? The problem? He couldn't wrestle so it never took off.
Putting an actor who can't act in a film is as bad as putting a wrestler who can't wrestle, or a fighter who can't fight. Eve Torres, your shining example, would be as embarrassing to this film as David Arquette was to the WCW World Title when he won it in 2000.
Eve Torres? Would be a complete embarrassment. Gina Carrano? would be a big liability. Find an actress, someone who does this for a living, at the very least.
Eve Torres does acting for a living. Gina Carano is slated for more films, thus the more she does, the more she improves on her acting abilities. She will be on the female Expendables team and hell man, any woman on the Expendables team would be alright for Gamora. If the Expendables were a Comic, Gamora would be on that team.
I remember when hearing about the Thor production, Hemsworth had a personal acting trainer to help him out for the role. He said it was hard work for him, they worked day in and day out, more than several hours of the day but now look, he's re-imaged Thor and he now is Thor. Marvel will do the same with either Torres or Carano, therefore improving their acting performance tenfold.
KangConquers
10-20-2012, 11:21 AM
Marvel would never go near either though, so it's off the table.
Captain Marvel
10-20-2012, 01:01 PM
"Improving their acting ten-fold."
10 x 0 is still 0.
MarvelKnight
10-20-2012, 01:08 PM
Lol
Guardian Outlaw
10-20-2012, 03:38 PM
Marvel would never go near either though, so it's off the table.
Oh, and how do you know?
Captain Marvel
10-20-2012, 03:57 PM
Past experience? People kept saying they should cast Triple H as Thor but thankfully they got a real actor for a job. There's no reason they'd decide to massively lower their standards now.
KangConquers
10-20-2012, 06:32 PM
Past experience? People kept saying they should cast Triple H as Thor but thankfully they got a real actor for a job. There's no reason they'd decide to massively lower their standards now.
I don't know if anyone's actually looked at drawings of Gamora, but she's not She-Hulk. Yes, she's a bricky character power wise, but her build isn't that off from any other in shape 34-24-34 superheroine.
She's rarely drawn excessively bulky or muscular. I sort of feel like any actress over 5'6" who hits the gym hard can play her.
KangConquers
10-20-2012, 06:36 PM
Oh, and how do you know?
In the past they've taken actors like Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans and had them build muscle, instead of casting body builders and pro-wrestlers. There's no reason to suggest Gamora would be any different.
And please stop referring to Eve Torres as an actress. Fake fighting and silly backstage skits don't make you an actress. There are plenty of actresses with actual talent that can do Gamora justice.
Joeyjojo72
10-20-2012, 07:14 PM
yuppity yup. Get the best actress available, who is fit and attractive. I guess she can have a "fierce" look to her, but that's the extent of the typecasting. Even race/ethnicity is wide open in my book. She's a green skinned alien after all. Some experience playing a sexually aggressive - or at least confident - character in the past would be a plus though. But a great actress playing against type could still be interesting, so I'm not excluding a more demure actress necessarily.
Im still lobbying for Rosario Dawson btw. Sexy, talented, with big expressive features. Just a refresher:
http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/big_rosario-dawson-6.jpg
Guardian Outlaw
10-20-2012, 10:17 PM
I don't know if anyone's actually looked at drawings of Gamora, but she's not She-Hulk. Yes, she's a bricky character power wise, but her build isn't that off from any other in shape 34-24-34 superheroine.
She's rarely drawn excessively bulky or muscular. I sort of feel like any actress over 5'6" who hits the gym hard can play her.
As frail as Gemma Arterton is now compared to Gamora, she would have to hit the gym real hard to pull it off. Because the way she looks now, there is no way it'll look believable when she throws a guy a quarter mile like Ronan.
Past experience? People kept saying they should cast Triple H as Thor but thankfully they got a real actor for a job. There's no reason they'd decide to massively lower their standards now.
If it makes you happy, Carano's scheduling looks tied up as well. She's gonna be in production with Fast 6, Female Expendables and some other movie. It'll be tight scheduling for her to be in Guardians.
In the past they've taken actors like Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans and had them build muscle, instead of casting body builders and pro-wrestlers. There's no reason to suggest Gamora would be any different.
And please stop referring to Eve Torres as an actress. Fake fighting and silly backstage skits don't make you an actress. There are plenty of actresses with actual talent that can do Gamora justice.
Carano is a rising action hero/actress. By the time production starts for this movie, she'll have two more movies under her belt. Honestly what better acting skills does she need? This isn't a drama movie shooting for an Academy Award. This is a Super Hero Space Opera. All Gamora does is throw people, kill people, swing a sword around, dresses half nude and spit one liners. We don't need her to preform extravagant romance scenes. We need her to preform extravagant neck slicing scenes.
Also as said before, Champions of WWE that would hold their belt for long periods of time (years) are the one's who hold the better acting skills overall the other pro wrestlers.
Oh yea and Hemsworth didn't need a body trainer. He already had the muscle from working on a farm. He said, he's never been to a weight lifting gym a day in his life. He's ripped from lifting hay. An hay will do that to ya. As I said before, it was an acting trainer that Disney gave him for the Thor role. Disney isn't afraid to supply an acting trainer to a once been mediocre actor.
I would be fine with Gemma Arterton, they would just have to assign her a 24/7 body building trainer to the point where they'll be asking her to play on the Female Expendables team.
yuppity yup. Get the best actress available, who is fit and attractive. I guess she can have a "fierce" look to her, but that's the extent of the typecasting. Even race/ethnicity is wide open in my book. She's a green skinned alien after all. Some experience playing a sexually aggressive - or at least confident - character in the past would be a plus though. But a great actress playing against type could still be interesting, so I'm not excluding a more demure actress necessarily.
Im still lobbying for Rosario Dawson btw. Sexy, talented, with big expressive features. Just a refresher:
http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/big_rosario-dawson-6.jpg
She's not a bad choice.
Daniella Alonso would be another choice.
http://mimg.actressarchives.com/201012/5/6/1/142165/cuts/Daniella_FL010_240x320.jpg
Captain Marvel
10-20-2012, 11:19 PM
If it makes you happy, Carano's scheduling looks tied up as well. She's gonna be in production with Fast 6, Female Expendables and some other movie. It'll be tight scheduling for her to be in Guardians.
It doesn't matter what her scheduling looks like, because Marvel would never let her in the door. They're after real actors.
cherokeesam
10-20-2012, 11:38 PM
The Internet is all atwitter with news that Gamora has already been cast:
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii593/cherokeesam777/bettywhite1.png
KangConquers
10-21-2012, 10:59 AM
Never mind...got the joke.
KangConquers
10-21-2012, 11:02 AM
yuppity yup. Get the best actress available, who is fit and attractive. I guess she can have a "fierce" look to her, but that's the extent of the typecasting. Even race/ethnicity is wide open in my book. She's a green skinned alien after all. Some experience playing a sexually aggressive - or at least confident - character in the past would be a plus though. But a great actress playing against type could still be interesting, so I'm not excluding a more demure actress necessarily.
Im still lobbying for Rosario Dawson btw. Sexy, talented, with big expressive features. Just a refresher:
http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/big_rosario-dawson-6.jpg
Can any of our photoshoppers turn her skin green and her eyes yellow in that pic? I'd love to see it.
Joeyjojo72
10-21-2012, 12:54 PM
Lol I know. Ive been waiting and hoping. Better brush up on photoshop.
KangConquers
11-08-2012, 05:20 PM
So do you guys just want Gamora to be a green skinned human, or should she have some extra texture to her prosthetics to make her more alien?
cherokeesam
11-09-2012, 07:02 AM
So do you guys just want Gamora to be a green skinned human, or should she have some extra texture to her prosthetics to make her more alien?
As long as she's still sexy and green, that's all I ask. If they start lizarding her up and making her ugly, Imma hafta smack some beeches up over at Disney-Vell.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-09-2012, 07:33 AM
yuppity yup. Get the best actress available, who is fit and attractive. I guess she can have a "fierce" look to her, but that's the extent of the typecasting. Even race/ethnicity is wide open in my book. She's a green skinned alien after all. Some experience playing a sexually aggressive - or at least confident - character in the past would be a plus though. But a great actress playing against type could still be interesting, so I'm not excluding a more demure actress necessarily.
Im still lobbying for Rosario Dawson btw. Sexy, talented, with big expressive features. Just a refresher:
http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/big_rosario-dawson-6.jpg
I would be delighted if Rosario was cast, not only is she gorgeous, she is a good actress to boot, she can play tough, sexy, fragile, anything really so would be more than happy for her to get the part.
xeno000
11-09-2012, 08:48 AM
So do you guys just want Gamora to be a green skinned human, or should she have some extra texture to her prosthetics to make her more alien?
Making Gamora more alien-looking than the comics would be good. All these smooth-faced, human-looking aliens are a damn sight too convenient. They're supposed to be from other planets, with genetics that differ from ours, so they should look substantially different. Merely having odd-colored skin doesn't cut it. Changes to the shape of her face, maybe some scales (worked for Mystique), even low-tech contact lenses to give her reptilian eyes, could make Gamora look plausibly alien and not just like a woman painted green. They might even give her the corrugated Skrull-like chin to match Thanos, to emphasize their supposed relationship.
KangConquers
11-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Making Gamora more alien-looking than the comics would be good. All these smooth-faced, human-looking aliens are a damn sight too convenient. They're supposed to be from other planets, with genetics that differ from ours, so they should look substantially different. Merely having odd-colored skin doesn't cut it. Changes to the shape of her face, maybe some scales (worked for Mystique), even low-tech contact lenses to give her reptilian eyes, could make Gamora look plausibly alien and not just like a woman painted green. They might even give her the corrugated Skrull-like chin to match Thanos, to emphasize their supposed relationship.
I don't want Gamora to be ugly, but I think the skin color should be more of a lizard green than a Forest green, and that her eyes should look slightly unsettling.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071208194327/marveldatabase/images/2/22/Nova_Vol_4_6_Textless.jpg
Adding ridges or roughness to the yellow around her eyes would give her extra texture.
Joeyjojo72
11-09-2012, 04:44 PM
For the sake of expressiveness, they might give her normal irises/eyes. I also think it would be cool if they gave her an "obviously alien" feature, but they probably want to save money where they can.
I agree that getting the skin color and texture right is key. The green chick from Star Trek aint gonna cut it. Something similar to ^above might work.
SuperSAINT
11-16-2012, 02:05 PM
Finally got around to watching John Carter the other day........
I second Chewy's vote for Lynn Collins.
She really does a damn fine job in that movie (and she's absolutely stunning too - Wouldn't surprise me if Warner's are looking at her for WW in Justice League)
Joeyjojo72
11-16-2012, 10:31 PM
Shes forgettable, which is more than I can say for Klitsch. And her one and only prominent role was one of the biggest flops in recent memory. Also, she is an old-looking 35. I assure you that WB - whenever they get around to casting - wont be looking at her.
She could probably pull off Gamora, but shes like anti-Rosario as far as screen presence. Too many better options, but maybe Marvel wants to save a few bucks on casting. Still more likely LC will be doing straight-to-DVD fare and/or basic cable in the near future.
SuperSAINT
11-17-2012, 05:30 AM
shes forgettable, which is more than i can say for klitsch. And her one and only prominent role was one of the biggest flops in recent memory. Also, she is an old-looking 35. I assure you that wb - whenever they get around to casting - wont be looking at her.
She could probably pull off gamora, but shes like anti-rosario as far as screen presence. Too many better options, but maybe marvel wants to save a few bucks on casting. Still more likely lc will be doing straight-to-dvd fare and/or basic cable in the near future.
lol!
metaphysician
11-17-2012, 11:12 AM
Ah, the Wonder Woman casting debate. . .
Dark Raven
11-17-2012, 11:49 AM
I want Gamora to not have any texture to her skin. I want her to look pretty much like an Orion Slave Girl. I really don't like what was done to movie Mystique. Far too scaly for my liking.
Joeyjojo72
11-17-2012, 05:28 PM
yeah sorry for the rant. i was disappointed to see the Lynn Collins fetishists had migrated to the Gamora thread. ENOUGH WITH LYNN COLLINS. Sheesh.
To be fair though, LC as Gamora is at least within the realm of possibility - uninspired but possible. LC as WW is fantasyland.
on-topic: I think a little texture would be okay. And the Mystique make-up worked great for a long-boned, graceful model type like Romijn. Lawrence, whos lovely, just looked bizarre (in a bad way) with the scaly makeup because of her bone structure and round cheeks. JL is probably the superior actress, but RR was perfectly cast imo. Anyway, a little texture could work for Gamora, depending on the actress.
Chewy
11-17-2012, 06:01 PM
How bout Lynn Collins?
Joeyjojo72
11-17-2012, 06:06 PM
Grrrr [shakes fist]
cherokeesam
11-17-2012, 11:17 PM
I'd rather have Joan Collins as Gamora.
Or Judy Collins.
Rowsdower!
11-17-2012, 11:55 PM
Berenice Marlohe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/BereniceMarlohe-HotBondGirl-FHMMagazine-01-560x773.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/that-guy/Untitled.jpg
SuperSAINT
11-18-2012, 05:50 AM
I'd rather have Joan Collins as Gamora.
Or Judy Collins.
Joan Collins is an old looking 35 ;)
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