View Full Version : The Big Bad Star Lord Thread
R_Hythlodeus
07-18-2012, 03:58 PM
Who should play him, what should be his story arc. Basically everything about Star Lord.
superkong 500
07-18-2012, 03:59 PM
I have no knowledge on him is he the leader of the Guardians? and what powers does he have?
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 04:02 PM
Who should play him, what should be his story arc. Basically everything about Star Lord.
I would borrow from Annihilation Conquest's Star-Lord tie-in. A down and out ex-superhero with a very dry sense of humor, who carries guilt with him for his short-comings and mistakes in his youth.
I'm not quite sure I'd go as far as having him kill an entire space colony to take out a Supervillain, but I'd definitely have his irresponsibility from years before resulted in a body count. Star-Lord has to learn to live with that and get back on the Horse so to speak.
Basically, Star-Lord's arc would be the main protagonist arc, and it would snowball into the formation of the Guardians who could be sort of a dirty dozen rag-tag group of heroes. I haven't quite decided how I want it all to fit together, but I think that's a great start.
Colossal Spoons
07-18-2012, 04:04 PM
I have no knowledge on him is he the leader of the Guardians? and what powers does he have?
Guns lol
superkong 500
07-18-2012, 04:06 PM
Does he have superhuman strength at least hand to hand combat expertise?
obin_gam
07-18-2012, 04:08 PM
Does he have superhuman strength at least hand to hand combat expertise?
no... he does act before he thinks alot... if that could be considered a power... :oldrazz:
Chewy
07-18-2012, 04:15 PM
He flies
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 04:24 PM
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Perfect+Getaway+Los+Angeles+Premiere+Arrivals+rPth cP_Bbd4l.jpg
Still love Olyphant as Star-Lord.
obin_gam
07-18-2012, 04:30 PM
Oh, thats a good one! A Star-Lord actor needs plenty of charisma and Olyphant definitely has that!
Colossal Spoons
07-18-2012, 04:44 PM
Tim would be good
Neo_3
07-18-2012, 05:19 PM
http://www.howmuchdotheyweigh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Karl-Urban.jpg
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 05:56 PM
Scott Porter if they go for a younger guy. Like Timmy O as well.
louiebling$
07-18-2012, 06:33 PM
Olyphant would be PERFECT!
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 06:40 PM
Does he have superhuman strength at least hand to hand combat expertise?
He's got a genius level IQ + combat expertise.
JB-the-Hunter
07-18-2012, 06:40 PM
Scott Porter if they go for a younger guy. Like Timmy O as well.
I desperately want to see Scott Porter play a superhero
misjuevos
07-18-2012, 06:44 PM
nice so far, time for some mock ups of them in a starlord costume
JB-the-Hunter
07-18-2012, 06:48 PM
nice so far, time for some mock ups of them in a starlord costume
I guess that means we'll need a fanart/manip thread
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:13 PM
I desperately want to see Scott Porter play a superhero
I'd like to see him bag a role too.
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:17 PM
I'd like to see him bag a role too.
I actually think Porter is the perfect Major Vance Astro, but that would be in a sequel.
JB-the-Hunter
07-18-2012, 07:21 PM
He was my #1 Cap choice for a while and I was sad when he was out of the running. I was relieved of course when Chris Evans was cast, but still.
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:35 PM
He'll get one sooner or later.
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:41 PM
He was my #1 Cap choice for a while and I was sad when he was out of the running. I was relieved of course when Chris Evans was cast, but still.
Given Major Victory is similar to Cap (hell, he even carries his shield) it might work.
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:43 PM
You really think they intro Major Victory in a GotG sequel? I'll be honest, I never really liked the original concept with the time traveling and such. I'd be ok with it if they keep it at a minimum.
Chewy
07-18-2012, 07:43 PM
I would imagine Warlock is first in line to be added to a potential sequel.
JB-the-Hunter
07-18-2012, 07:45 PM
If he's not in this one that is
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Nova, Quasar, Warlock of the bigger names.
Moondragon, Phyla-Vell (ugh), Bug as some lesser names.
Also, these movies need Cosmo!
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:50 PM
You really think they intro Major Victory in a GotG sequel? I'll be honest, I never really liked the original concept with the time traveling and such. I'd be ok with it if they keep it at a minimum.
I figure the 31st century Guardians will show up, depending how far along this franchise goes. If it makes it to #3, I think we'll see them.
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Ugh.
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Nova, Quasar, Warlock of the bigger names.
Moondragon, Phyla-Vell (ugh), Bug as some lesser names.
Also, these movies need Cosmo!
Nova and Quasar aren't really Guardians...
I agree on Cosmo. I actually think we might see Cosmo and Mantis serving in non-field op capacity, like they did for the most part in the GoTG comic. Sort of like a Nick Fury and Maria Hill.
Chewy
07-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Nova will inevitably become one at some point. Probably even before the movie comes out
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Ugh.
I felt that way about the idea of them going with the 31st century GotG over the modern team, but being realistic, the current GotG team only had 25 issues. I guess they could adapt other cosmic tales for sequels, but it seems inevitable to me that the 31st century team will come into play.
KangConquers
07-18-2012, 07:55 PM
Nova will inevitably become one at some point. Probably even before the movie comes out
True he's like the cosmic Spider-Man to their Cosmic Avengers. Only a matter of time.
Darthphere
07-18-2012, 07:59 PM
Nova will inevitably become one at some point. Probably even before the movie comes out
Yeah, I still expect him in this movie. I know that him and the other characters aren't part of the team but I really doubt Marvel/Disney starts making 3-4 different cosmic movie franchises. It makes sense to have them involved with the team.
I felt that way about the idea of them going with the 31st century GotG over the modern team, but being realistic, the current GotG team only had 25 issues. I guess they could adapt other cosmic tales for sequels, but it seems inevitable to me that the 31st century team will come into play.
I think they have enough material in the Annihilation stuff and the other cosmic stories that have come out recently to do multiple sequels and not have to delve into that 31st century stuff. Though I wouldn't be against it completely it's just something I rather not see. Though, the Star Trek movie did time travel fairly well IMO so it can be done.
JB-the-Hunter
07-18-2012, 10:53 PM
Star-Lord better have the whole helmet and not just the mask part.
Fives
07-18-2012, 11:05 PM
How about some awesome pics of Star Lord!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/58550/1750159-starlord_by_clint_langley.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1858440-starlord_02.jpg
Marko Djurdjevic designed the badass Star Lod design!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1858439-starlord_01.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1858448-starlord_08.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/142164-31539-starlord.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/25705/660512-guardians82_copy.jpg
Chewy
07-19-2012, 06:21 AM
Star-Lord better have the whole helmet and not just the mask part.
If they stick with just the mask, it seems obvious they're gonna want it to flip up and down so we see the actor's face.
Darthphere
07-19-2012, 10:01 AM
Yeah, even Cap and Iron Man lose the helmet during their movies.
Darthphere
07-19-2012, 10:40 AM
Sharlto Copley should play Star Lord.
Eddie Dean
07-19-2012, 10:49 AM
Yes please.
Chewy
07-19-2012, 12:07 PM
He'd be swell. He's got the crazy eyes for it
DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs
07-19-2012, 02:26 PM
So does he need the mask to breathe or anything? Am I correct in thinking he is a human right?
Darthphere
07-19-2012, 02:30 PM
Half human.
misjuevos
07-20-2012, 03:23 PM
added a helmet to the starlord from the wallpaper.
helmet with hair
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9794/starlordwithhelmett.png
helmet without hair
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4247/starlordwithhelmetnohai.png
i liked the blu ray covers they showed of the avengers movies so i made one with starlord 1920x1080
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/1155/starlordsilhouettecompl.png
Rowsdower!
07-20-2012, 03:32 PM
Damn... that's some good work. Looks awesome.
they should definitely keep the full helmet. Looks a lot cooler. Without it, he looks like Grifter or something. Then again, these are the guys who thought Thor's helmet was too stupid for some reason, so they probably won't go for it.
Neo_3
07-20-2012, 03:57 PM
l like his costume with the flame in the middle rather than the one from Comic-Con.
Darthphere
07-20-2012, 03:59 PM
star-Lord rounds out Marvel NOW! Point One dossiers.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39974
JB-the-Hunter
07-20-2012, 04:27 PM
Damn... that's some good work. Looks awesome.
they should definitely keep the full helmet. Looks a lot cooler. Without it, he looks like Grifter or something. Then again, these are the guys who thought Thor's helmet was too stupid for some reason, so they probably won't go for it.
I almost guarantee Thor will wear his helmet more in Thor 2.
jaqua99
07-20-2012, 05:05 PM
I hope so. And I think Warlock needs to be in it. He has to. ahh
Fives
07-20-2012, 05:38 PM
star-Lord rounds out Marvel NOW! Point One dossiers.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39974
I saw that eariler, and think it's awesome. I was not expecting to see him as the final reveal, so I'm excited to see what they have planned for Star Lord in the comics.
Chewy
07-20-2012, 11:59 PM
I hope so. And I think Warlock needs to be in it. He has to. ahh
In Thor 2? No thanks. I want it to be a Thor movie, not Thor and His Amazing Buddies. No Dr Strange, no Warlock, no Thanos.
Darthphere
07-21-2012, 12:09 AM
Maybe if they ever do a Defenders movie (which I doubt) they can have Hulk crossover.
Chewy
07-21-2012, 10:17 AM
I think Defenders would come off too much like Avengers-lite
Darthphere
07-21-2012, 10:18 AM
Hence why I don't think it would happen. But I'd love to see Strange, Hulk, Silver Surfer teaming up.
Captain Marvel
07-21-2012, 10:32 AM
Me too. Sadly, Fox still owns the rights to the Silver Surfer. :(
But yeah, I don't see any good reason at all to do the Defenders, even if they did have the Silver Surfer. Dr. Strange, the Hulk, the Silver Surfer, and Namor are just not a good mix, period. Dr. Strange is better off hanging out in the supernatural part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe alongside Blade, Morbius, and Werewolf-By-Night, Hulk is better with the Avengers, while the Silver Surfer is better having his cosmic adventures. Mashing all those characters together takes them all out of their element and takes away from what makes them so great. The Defenders is a team which is less than the sum of its parts, not greater.
KangConquers
07-21-2012, 10:34 AM
Me too. Sadly, Fox still owns the rights to the Silver Surfer. :(
But yeah, I don't see any good reason at all to do the Defenders, even if they did have the Silver Surfer. Dr. Strange, the Hulk, the Silver Surfer, and Namor are just not a good mix, period. Dr. Strange is better off hanging out in the supernatural part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe alongside Blade, Morbius, and Werewolf-By-Night, Hulk is better with the Avengers, while the Silver Surfer is better having his cosmic adventures. Mashing all those characters together takes them all out of their element and takes away from what makes them so great. The Defenders is a team which is less than the sum of its parts, not greater.
The Defenders gimmick (being a team that doesn't get along) was nicked whole sale for the Avengers film as well. The Defenders would just be in the eyes of movie goers, The Hulk hanging out with 3 heroes who are more powerful but less famous than their Avengers counterparts.
chiefchirpa
07-22-2012, 08:33 AM
Will Star-Lord get a jet pack? Like Boba Fett?
Chewy
07-22-2012, 12:35 PM
You know who would be awesome in this role? Josh Brolin
KangConquers
07-22-2012, 07:33 PM
I'm going to get serious heat for this one, but looking back through Marvel's shortlist past, what about John Krasinski?
chronos
07-22-2012, 07:33 PM
Tim Olyphant would be good, but I feel that Star-Lord is going to bee the role where they are going to want the biggest name or star power (no pun intended). Bradley Cooper wouldn't be terrible, but I'd rather have him in a less serious comic book role, like Flash or something. I fear Brolin is pretty much turned off by comic book films after the Jonah Hex fiasco. If you want a recognizable name, plus acting chops (Oscar nominated), might I suggest Ethan Hawke? He's been doing lower profile work lately, but I feel he's ready for a comeback role. Maybe Star-Lord can do for him what IM did for Downey, if to a marginally lesser degree.
Chewy
07-22-2012, 07:42 PM
I fear Brolin is pretty much turned off by comic book films after the Jonah Hex fiasco.
He was more than happy to turn around and do Men in Black. I think he'll be able to recognize that it's nothing like Jonah Hex, haha
And Ethan Hawke is a good shout. Could see that
JB-the-Hunter
07-22-2012, 09:58 PM
I'm going to get serious heat for this one, but looking back through Marvel's shortlist past, what about John Krasinski?
That could work
Joeyjojo72
07-23-2012, 01:55 AM
He would be an interesting choice actually. Though i tend to imagine quill as a bit hard boiled. So Olyphant or Brolin are more along those lines.
Coremax
07-23-2012, 10:41 AM
id like to think in the movie he will have his helmet and that they wont show it in early released production designs and stills so that people who are not familiar with the guardians wont assume he is a robot. also those asking about his powers, his suit gives him enhanced strength and durability. hes a human/alien hybrid though has no extra powers from that. basically hes a guy in a suit
Darthphere
07-23-2012, 10:41 AM
Box office darling Taylor Kitsch.
KangConquers
07-23-2012, 12:48 PM
He would be an interesting choice actually. Though i tend to imagine quill as a bit hard boiled. So Olyphant or Brolin are more along those lines.
Brolin to me doesn't have the sense of humor though. There's something kind of winking about Olyphant.
Ultimately, I have feeling they're going to cast younger for Star-Lord anyway; I really doubt they'll cast someone who will be 47 when the first movie of a franchise comes out.
KangConquers
07-23-2012, 12:48 PM
Box office darling Taylor Kitsch.
At this point, I really wouldn't be surprised...he keeps getting chances.
Darthphere
07-23-2012, 12:52 PM
Why I picked Scott Porter.
Chewy
07-23-2012, 07:41 PM
lol nah Kitsch is about to sign on for the big Need for Speed movie... should definitely resuscitate his career :lmao:
Darthphere
07-23-2012, 07:42 PM
I hope he's putting all this money in a high interest savings account.
KangConquers
07-28-2012, 07:16 AM
Does anyone think John Krasinski could work in this role, or am I the only one?
chronos
07-28-2012, 02:19 PM
Kang, didn't you just ask that a few posts back, and have already gotten a couple of responses? Personally, I'd say no to Krasinski. I like him as an actor, but I don't feel that he's right for Star-lord. He'd come across as too jokey for what I feel is a more serious, stoic role. Jim Halpert belongs in Scranton, not space. If you want to pull from the Marvel almost-cast list, I'd say take another look at Ryan Phillipe.
Captain Marvel
07-28-2012, 03:42 PM
Well, Star-Lord is jokey, but I think we need a more dashing jokey than goofball, and Krasinski screams goofball to me. Not somebody you take seriously.
KangConquers
07-28-2012, 03:55 PM
Kang, didn't you just ask that a few posts back, and have already gotten a couple of responses? Personally, I'd say no to Krasinski. I like him as an actor, but I don't feel that he's right for Star-lord. He'd come across as too jokey for what I feel is a more serious, stoic role. Jim Halpert belongs in Scranton, not space. If you want to pull from the Marvel almost-cast list, I'd say take another look at Ryan Phillipe.
Sorry, I thought I asked in the casting thread.
Star-Lord IS very sarcastic and irreverent. Gamora once scolded him for not being able to stop himself from joking even in a tense situation. He IS a character with a sense of humor, not a stoic, Captain America.
Maybe you should re-read the books?
Captain Marvel
07-28-2012, 03:59 PM
He's more like a Han Solo type, though, in that while he makes jokes he can be taken seriously. I don't get anything from Krasinski that could be taken seriously. His face is to oddly goofball, at least IMO.
chronos
07-28-2012, 04:08 PM
Agreed, Captain. I see Star-lord more snarky and sarcastic than goofy. Han is a really good comparison. Or maybe Ed Burns from "Saving Private Ryan". Come to think of it, Burns wouldn't be a terrible Star-lord either...
Chewy
07-28-2012, 04:10 PM
Ed Burns is so boring, there's a reason he only does DTV type stuff these days
KangConquers
07-28-2012, 04:21 PM
He's more like a Han Solo type, though, in that while he makes jokes he can be taken seriously. I don't get anything from Krasinski that could be taken seriously. His face is to oddly goofball, at least IMO.
I can understand coming back to the lack of square jaw etc when we're talking Cap casting...but for Star-Lord casting? Really!?
I think it's worth mentioning that in Guardians of the Galaxy #18, Peter Quill gives his age as 32 years old. So many names being cast on this thread will be 47-48 when this movie comes out (including, admittedly, my original pick, Timothy Olyphant.) While I realize age isn't everything, do we really need to cast Star-Lord a generation older than he is?
I'd go with a Star-Lord who is his 30s when the movie comes out, so born between 1975-1984.
Eddie Dean
07-28-2012, 04:34 PM
Ed Burns is so boring, there's a reason he only does DTV type stuff these days
Ed Burns is so boring, I almo... zzz... zzz.. ZZZZ
Rowsdower!
07-29-2012, 12:27 AM
LOL yeah. Ed Burns was supposed to be the next big thing about 15 years ago but he was so dull and unlikeable that his career never took off.
chronos
07-29-2012, 01:37 AM
Okay, okay. So I guess that's a big fat N-O on Burns. How about this- remember the rumor a while back that Marvel was meeting with Josh Holloway? That might be interesting...
louiebling$
07-29-2012, 02:07 AM
I still feel Timothy Olyphant is th best canidate
Captain Marvel
07-29-2012, 07:47 AM
Who the hell is Ed Burns?
OccamsTaser
07-29-2012, 09:44 AM
I can understand coming back to the lack of square jaw etc when we're talking Cap casting...but for Star-Lord casting? Really!?
It's not just Krasinski's jaw, but his face as a whole. He's just a goofy looking guy.
Okay, okay. So I guess that's a big fat N-O on Burns. How about this- remember the rumor a while back that Marvel was meeting with Josh Holloway? That might be interesting...
If Timothy Olyphant is too old, so is Josh Holloway.
Chewy
07-29-2012, 10:03 AM
Who the hell is Ed Burns?
You've probably seen him in something, he just blended in with the sets
Darthphere
07-29-2012, 11:28 AM
Ed Burns was awesome in A Sound of Thunder....
louiebling$
07-29-2012, 11:03 PM
Oooo...Josh Holloway didn't even cross my mind....love it :o
bored
07-30-2012, 12:15 AM
If, by some chance, they were to put Jack Flag in this movie, Holloway would be great as him.
Chewy
07-30-2012, 08:48 AM
Jack Flag is probably the Guardian least likely to show up on film, haha
KangConquers
07-30-2012, 08:57 AM
Jack Flag is probably the Guardian least likely to show up on film, haha
Literally. We'll probably see all of the rest of the 60s and 00s teams before we see Flag.
Captain Marvel
07-30-2012, 10:21 AM
Yeah, and thank God for that. I didn't much care for his addition. As far as I'm concerned, this is how it should be:
A-TEAM (The people we know for a fact are in the team)
Star-Lord
Drax the Destroyer
Gamora
Rocket Raccoon
Groot
B-TEAM (The people who should be in the first movie)
Adam Warlock
Moondragon
Cosmo
C-TEAM (The people who can join later)
Mantis
Martyr
D-TEAM (The people we don't need)
Bug
Major Victory
Jack Flag
KangConquers
07-30-2012, 11:35 AM
Yeah, and thank God for that. I didn't much care for his addition. As far as I'm concerned, this is how it should be:
A-TEAM (The people we know for a fact are in the team)
Star-Lord
Drax the Destroyer
Gamora
Rocket Raccoon
Groot
B-TEAM (The people who should be in the first movie)
Adam Warlock
Moondragon
Cosmo
C-TEAM (The people who can join later)
Mantis
Martyr
D-TEAM (The people we don't need)
Bug
Major Victory
Jack Flag
More or less...though if GoTG makes it to a trilogy, I'd like to see the entire 31st century team appear at some point.
Captain Marvel
07-30-2012, 12:15 PM
Nah, who needs that complication? There're plenty of stories they can do, from Annihilation, the Phalanx Invasion, and the Magus/Universal Church of Truth, to the Kree/Skrull War, the Fault, and the Cancerverse. Why bring in a whole other team from a thousand years in the future who have their own issues completely unrelated to the concerns of the modern era team?
Chewy
07-30-2012, 01:24 PM
Mantis is probably the one I want to show up the most. Then Warlock.
KangConquers
07-30-2012, 01:41 PM
Mantis is probably the one I want to show up the most. Then Warlock.
Warlock to me, is the greatest Marvel cosmic character ever.
Chewy
07-30-2012, 01:46 PM
Warlock really should've been in this one. Maybe he still will be, just not as a team member
And he should be played by a Ewan McGregor/Jude Law -type actor
R_Hythlodeus
07-30-2012, 02:44 PM
Warlock really should've been in this one. Maybe he still will be, just not as a team member
And he should be played by a Ewan McGregor/Jude Law -type actor
huh? Ewan McGregor and Jude Law are very different types and in their acting styles. What do you mean?
Chewy
07-30-2012, 02:51 PM
They've always felt very similar to me. Jude Law is more well known for his pretty boy roles and McGregor is obviously most well known for Star Wars but a lot of their character work feels similar.
Plus they kind of look the same.
KangConquers
07-30-2012, 03:37 PM
Warlock really should've been in this one. Maybe he still will be, just not as a team member
And he should be played by a Ewan McGregor/Jude Law -type actor
I want Armie Hammer.
Captain Marvel
07-30-2012, 05:17 PM
Warlock to me, is the greatest Marvel cosmic character ever.
Agreed. One of my favorite things about the Guardians of the Galaxy series, actually, is that it's pretty much a rebirth of Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch, given that it has the entire team except for Pip and Thanos. And while it's a shame Pip wasn't on it, he was more than ably replaced by Rocket Raccoon. The addition of Star-Lord, Mantis, Groot, and the rest to that roster only made things better.
But yes, Adam Warlock IS easily the best Marvel cosmic character, with the possible exception of the Silver Surfer.
Chewy
07-30-2012, 06:50 PM
Anyway since it seems likely Star-Lord will be the lead, we can look forward to a HUGE push of him by Marvel over the next two years.
Rocket Raccoon will probably get the same
superman-mos
07-30-2012, 08:34 PM
Oooo...Josh Holloway didn't even cross my mind....love it :o
How bout someone who can play the Han Solo type (not that halloway couldnt). But they are gonna cast somebody younger and we all know it. How bout Josh Hartnett
KangConquers
07-31-2012, 02:12 AM
Agreed. One of my favorite things about the Guardians of the Galaxy series, actually, is that it's pretty much a rebirth of Adam Warlock and the Infinity Watch, given that it has the entire team except for Pip and Thanos. And while it's a shame Pip wasn't on it, he was more than ably replaced by Rocket Raccoon. The addition of Star-Lord, Mantis, Groot, and the rest to that roster only made things better.
But yes, Adam Warlock IS easily the best Marvel cosmic character, with the possible exception of the Silver Surfer.
Yes, to everything you said.
Chewy
07-31-2012, 08:31 AM
How bout someone who can play the Han Solo type (not that halloway couldnt). But they are gonna cast somebody younger and we all know it. How bout Josh Hartnett
Harrison Ford is rolling over in his bed thanks to this comparison :o
superman-mos
07-31-2012, 08:59 AM
Harrison Ford is rolling over in his bed thanks to this comparison :o
Give me a break. The same Harrison Ford (who happens to be one of my favorites) who was in Hollywood Homicide with Hartnett. The same Mr. Ford who praised Shia in Crystal Skull? We talking about that Harrison Ford or is there a different one who has never made a bad movie that i don't know of? Hartnett is a good actor and is a better choice than some of the others i've seen. Lucky # slevin is one of my favorite movies and its his performance in that movie made me think bout it.
JB-the-Hunter
07-31-2012, 09:22 AM
Anyway since it seems likely Star-Lord will be the lead, we can look forward to a HUGE push of him by Marvel over the next two years.
Rocket Raccoon will probably get the same
That's already started chief, get with the news. UMvC3, EMH and Marvel Heroes?
Chewy
07-31-2012, 09:29 AM
I know but in the grand scheme of things that's still kinda small. Two games and one episode of a cartoon. I'm talking the whole shebang; every game, every cartoon, multiple solo comic minis and an ongoing or two, toys, etc
Thor and Cap were literally everywhere in 2009/2010
KangConquers
07-31-2012, 04:47 PM
I know but in the grand scheme of things that's still kinda small. Two games and one episode of a cartoon. I'm talking the whole shebang; every game, every cartoon, multiple solo comic minis and an ongoing or two, toys, etc
Thor and Cap were literally everywhere in 2009/2010
Backpacks, coloring books, pencils, notebooks, folders.
Chewy
08-09-2012, 10:40 AM
This thread is falling so far down the page :argh:
Do you guys think they'll start the film off with a quick Star-Lord origin that leads right into the action, sort of like Star Trek?
SuperSAINT
08-09-2012, 12:56 PM
This thread is falling so far down the page :argh:
Do you guys think they'll start the film off with a quick Star-Lord origin that leads right into the action, sort of like Star Trek?
I think it would have to. Star Trek is a very good example. (Why didn't you use Green Lantern as an example?) ;)
Captain Marvel
08-09-2012, 12:57 PM
The First Rule of the Guardians of the Galaxy Forum is... we don't talk about "that" movie.
Chewy
08-09-2012, 01:00 PM
the first rule of the guardians of the galaxy forum is... We don't talk about "that" movie.
I Know, RIGHT?!
KangConquers
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
The First Rule of the Guardians of the Galaxy Forum is... we don't talk about "that" movie.
A-****ing-men.
Actually I take it back, I hope Marvel watched GL, and takes notes on what they shouldn't do with Guardians of the Galaxy.
SuperSAINT
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
The First Rule of the Guardians of the Galaxy Forum is... we don't talk about "that" movie.
I still can't believe we're up to 5 pages and no-one's mentioned Fillion to play him...
Darthphere
08-09-2012, 01:04 PM
I say they take the opening to his comic and adapt that. Him waking up all battle ravaged in the hospital. Let me take some screencaps and show you what I mean.
Chewy
08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
I still can't believe we're up to 5 pages and no-one's mentioned Fillion to play him...
I think we all recognize that that ship sailed 10 years/20 pounds ago
SuperSAINT
08-09-2012, 01:08 PM
I think we all recognize that that ship sailed 10 years/20 pounds ago
Indeed. Brolin's still the best choice I've read.
Chewy
08-09-2012, 01:16 PM
A-****ing-men.
Actually I take it back, I hope Marvel watched GL, and takes notes on what they shouldn't do with Guardians of the Galaxy.
Green Lantern has a ton (TON) of problems, but one of the funniest to me is that there are about 10 supporting characters, and not one contributes a single meaningful moment to the movie.
Basically if you took out everyone except for Hal, Abin-Sur and Hector, it's still the same movie
Darthphere
08-09-2012, 01:18 PM
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Darthphere
08-09-2012, 01:19 PM
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Darthphere
08-09-2012, 01:20 PM
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KangConquers
08-09-2012, 01:42 PM
I want the first act of GOTG to be the Star-Lord Mini from Annihilation Conquest.
Chewy
08-09-2012, 01:43 PM
Works for me :up:
They could even get Mar-Vell in there as a Kree science officer
Darthphere
08-09-2012, 01:45 PM
I want the first act of GOTG to be the Star-Lord Mini from Annihilation Conquest.
Thats what I just posted.:woot:
KangConquers
08-09-2012, 01:58 PM
Thats what I just posted.:woot:
Yeah, I was addressing that. It's a perfect way to introduce them.
Darthphere
08-09-2012, 01:59 PM
And the team overall.
KangConquers
08-09-2012, 02:34 PM
And the team overall.
Well, I don't know if Gamora should be in prison with them; My idea is that she's sent by Thanos as a spy in the team, to assassinate Drax. Still, it works for the rest of them.
Silvermoth
08-18-2012, 06:58 PM
Wasn't Nathan Fillion chased up about doing a superhero film a while ago and he said he was too busy?
He seems to be the favourite for the role.
Joeyjojo72
08-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Hes not the favorite. He may be the fanboy favorite, but I'd be shocked if hes even in the running. Certainly no evidence that hes being considered.
Silvermoth
08-19-2012, 05:28 AM
Well, to be fair they haven't started casting yet.
AVEITWITHJAMON
09-15-2012, 06:43 AM
I wonder if Star-Lords past is gonna be brought up in the movie? I hope it does as it what makes the character interesting, he basically comitted genocide to defeat The Fallen One and yet saved lots of lives at the same time and turned himself in to the Nova Corps, thats a lot of interesting stuff about the character I would be surprised for them to leave out.
Or will this movie basically be Star-Lords origin?
Plus, I think it would be cool to see The Fallen One.
Darthphere
09-15-2012, 10:31 AM
I think they will bring it up. If they do it will probably be the opening scene of the movie. In a way it would be a great way to start the movie, off with a bang, grab people's attention,
jaqua99
09-15-2012, 11:57 AM
so is this suppose to take place in present day?
Joeyjojo72
09-15-2012, 01:41 PM
I think it would be hilarious if we get an opening scene stinger with Quill narrating "how the !#$%@ did I ever get into this crazy mess?" while doing battle. Maybe he's shellshocked a la Private Ryan and hes sort of glancing at his teammates. We catch a glimpse of Rocket shouting something and firing a bazooka-like weapon, we get quills voice-over and boom flashback to the beginning and/or credits. The voice-over can end up being an excerpt from one of the crew log thingies.
Chewy
09-15-2012, 04:10 PM
so is this suppose to take place in present day?
Uh, yeah? Why wouldn't it?
So far I still want David Boreanaz as Star Lord.1
AVEITWITHJAMON
09-27-2012, 04:39 AM
I think they will bring it up. If they do it will probably be the opening scene of the movie. In a way it would be a great way to start the movie, off with a bang, grab people's attention,
Surely they have to bring up his past? Cant call him Star-Lord without the past and yeah, it would be a great opening to the movie.
SuperSAINT
09-27-2012, 09:22 AM
Just a look back through this thread to see who gets mentioned as possible casting...
Timothy Olyphant / Scott Porter / Sharlto Copley / Karl Urban / Josh Brolin / John Krasinski /
Ethan Hawke / Taylor Kitsch / Ed Burns/ Josh Holloway /Josh Hartnett / Nathan Fillion
Now there's an interesting mix...
Chewy
09-27-2012, 10:56 AM
Just a look back through this thread to see who gets mentioned as possible casting...
Timothy Olyphant / Scott Porter / Sharlto Copley / Karl Urban / Josh Brolin / John Krasinski /
Ethan Hawke / Taylor Kitsch / Ed Burns/ Josh Holloway /Josh Hartnett / Nathan Fillion
Now there's an interesting mix...
That's one word for it... :o
Suzanne78
09-27-2012, 11:13 AM
Um... has Scott Speedman been mentioned? Because I just watched the Last Resort premiere, and I kind of adored him. I think he could do Star Lord justice.
Also, he's 37. He may look younger to y'all, but... well, just putting it out there.
SuperSAINT
09-27-2012, 11:24 AM
That's one word for it... :o
How about eclectic?
It contains awesome (Brolin) & WTF (Ed Burns)
Joeyjojo72
09-27-2012, 02:52 PM
sharlto copley is definitely wtf, and i really like him. hes probably not gonna get any leading man type roles in hollywood, but i would love him as a supporting character in a Marvel film.
Rowsdower!
09-28-2012, 10:02 AM
Um... has Scott Speedman been mentioned? Because I just watched the Last Resort premiere, and I kind of adored him. I think he could do Star Lord justice.
Also, he's 37. He may look younger to y'all, but... well, just putting it out there.
I agree, Speedman would be a solid choice. He was really good on Last Resort last night.
Side note, that dude who plays the Navy SEAL might make a good Batman.
Chewy
10-12-2012, 11:34 AM
How about Scarf-Lord?
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Guardian Outlaw
10-13-2012, 02:11 AM
Ken Marino as Peter Quill:
I've spent a lot of time finding someone for Pete, it was a hard one with constant everyone saying, "Nathan Fillion" at one point I thought the same but it would of been too obvious. I thought maybe another action hero but after re-reading a bunch of the comics I found that Pete is more of a comedian. He puts his wise cracks before his heroics. His other teammates are always telling him to take tasks more seriously. He's a real comedian. So I thought, 'why not get him a comedian actor?' James Gunn used Dwight from "The Office" to play the lead superhero role in "Super" so why not use that strategy again (it is Gunn's style after all now).
Ken Marino was the 1st guy to pop onto my mind, he fits Gunn's "twisted" sense of humor. In the Starz Original Series, "Party Down" he played the team leader of a catering service that were a band of misfits put together (sound familiar?) and he would always have trouble leading his team (now please tell me this doesn't sound familiar). Star-Lord has the same exact dilemma in regards to his Guardians. Ken Marino is in a numinous TV shows and has played supporting roles in comedy movies (you guys have heard of Reno 911, right?). Trust me here, he knows how to act quite well.
Ken Marino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Marino) as Peter Quill:
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Video Clip of Ken Marino with a similar Star-Lord personality (right down to the random movie references they both like to make: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ud4zL_Xw5w
Captain Marvel
10-13-2012, 04:10 AM
so is this suppose to take place in present day?
I don't see why it wouldn't. The comic takes place in the present. And Peter Quill would have to be a modern day human, otherwise it defeats the whole purpose of using him to introduce the audience to the rest of the cosmic universe. And including an element of time travel just needlessly complicates a storyline which doesn't need that to work, particularly since there'll obviously be some crossover between this and Avengers, what with Thanos and all. There's no good reason I can think of to have Star-Lord, the Guardians, and Thanos all bouncing all over the timestream. There'll be enough going on in this movie as is. It doesn't need a time travel element in addition.
KangConquers
10-22-2012, 09:32 AM
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/shipstld.htm
How would you guys feel if Ship was in the film? Ship is from Englehardt's run, and is Starlord's sentient...well, ship.
I feel like all Sci-fi properties need an iconic mode of transportation, and this might just work.
SuperSAINT
10-25-2012, 04:20 PM
File this under the "2+2 = 5" file.
Ryan Gosling is apparently no longer attached to the Logan's Run remake.
ThePowerCosmic
10-28-2012, 04:39 PM
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/shipstld.htm
How would you guys feel if Ship was in the film? Ship is from Englehardt's run, and is Starlord's sentient...well, ship.
I feel like all Sci-fi properties need an iconic mode of transportation, and this might just work.
That would be really cool.
KangConquers
10-28-2012, 05:16 PM
That would be really cool.
She popped back up in the Avengers Assemble arc with the Guardians, and I went "Hmmm...why not?"
jaqua99
10-28-2012, 08:24 PM
Uh, yeah? Why wouldn't it?
Sorry to rehash this, I didn't notice, but regarding my comment asking if it is suppose to take place in present day, I thought I heard somewhere that it was going to take place in the 30th century, or something, so I was just curious
KangConquers
10-28-2012, 09:45 PM
Sorry to rehash this, I didn't notice, but regarding my comment asking if it is suppose to take place in present day, I thought I heard somewhere that it was going to take place in the 30th century, or something, so I was just curious
The source obviously wikipedia'd "Guardians of the Galaxy" and the original team came up.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-02-2012, 08:23 AM
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/shipstld.htm
How would you guys feel if Ship was in the film? Ship is from Englehardt's run, and is Starlord's sentient...well, ship.
I feel like all Sci-fi properties need an iconic mode of transportation, and this might just work.
Well it would have to appear at some point because it was a big part of SL's past, as for appearing in the modern day i'm not so sure.
KangConquers
11-03-2012, 10:58 AM
Well it would have to appear at some point because it was a big part of SL's past, as for appearing in the modern day i'm not so sure.
Ship (or a spaceship designed after her) showed up in the Avengers Assemble arc.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-06-2012, 04:19 PM
^I think it would be a bit much to have Ship in the entire film at the minute, just having it appear in the flashback about Star-Lords past would do for now.
KangConquers
11-07-2012, 04:37 AM
^I think it would be a bit much to have Ship in the entire film at the minute, just having it appear in the flashback about Star-Lords past would do for now.
But there won't BE a Star-Lord past. He's going to start out the movie as a normal human being and gain his powers during the course of the film.
That'd be like referencing Gwen Stacy's death in a Spider-Man movie where Peter Parker starts out as a civilian.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-07-2012, 08:32 AM
^From what we have heard so far, he is the modern incarnation of Star-Lord, i.e, the one who killed 350, 000 Kree to stop The Fallen One, an act in which ship was destroyed.
He isnt going to get any powers, he will just be Peter Quill, but to have the name Star Lord he needs the past to do it, hence why I dont think Ship should be involved unless in a flashback.
KangConquers
11-07-2012, 04:45 PM
^From what we have heard so far, he is the modern incarnation of Star-Lord, i.e, the one who killed 350, 000 Kree to stop The Fallen One, an act in which ship was destroyed.
He isnt going to get any powers, he will just be Peter Quill, but to have the name Star Lord he needs the past to do it, hence why I dont think Ship should be involved unless in a flashback.
He's not going to have the history of killing 350,000 people. Why would he? The synopsis indicates he's an Earth Pilot, who gets caught up with a bunch of Futuristic convicts. Chances are 99.9% that he becomes Star-Lord (whatever that means in this film) during the course of the film...not years before it starts.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-08-2012, 08:45 AM
^Ah, then I think he is going to be called Star-Lord for a different reason in this movie then, so I suppose Ship could be involved, but if he isnt going to get any powers and is just going to be Peter Quill, what would be the point in having Ship?
Plus they are meant to be a team of under-dogs/losers, so having technology like Ship on their side seems a little redundant.
James Marsden has my support from the eight rumored candidates. Edgerton and Pace would also be great IMO
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-29-2012, 04:41 AM
Think Marsden would be too old myself, Edgerton is a bit too old as well but looks young enough to pull it off.
Think Hedlund would be better as Richard Rider/Nova, Jack Huston wouldnt be bad either, though I have only ever seen him in Outlander.
SuperSAINT
11-29-2012, 05:57 AM
Think Marsden would be too old myself, Edgerton is a bit too old as well but looks young enough to pull it off.
Think Hedlund would be better as Richard Rider/Nova, Jack Huston wouldnt be bad either, though I have only ever seen him in Outlander.
Depends entirely what kind of traits they want Quill to have.
I think Edgerton & Pace would play quite different Star-Lords myself.
KangConquers
11-29-2012, 08:10 AM
Think Hedlund would be better as Richard Rider/Nova.
Hollywood (and specifically Marvel Studios) rarely think this way.
They don't go "We love Hedlund, but we should save him for this..."
They go: "We like this guy; do we have a role for him?"
KangConquers
11-29-2012, 08:14 AM
Depends entirely what kind of traits they want Quill to have.
I think Edgerton & Pace would play quite different Star-Lords myself.
I think almost all of the actors would play different Star-Lords. These actors are all different ages, shapes, sizes, and types. I guess Star-Lord is such a blank canvas in terms of public perception, that Marvel themselves aren't sure what they're looking for.
SuperSAINT
11-29-2012, 08:52 AM
I think almost all of the actors would play different Star-Lords. These actors are all different ages, shapes, sizes, and types. I guess Star-Lord is such a blank canvas in terms of public perception, that Marvel themselves aren't sure what they're looking for.
I agree - I just used 2 as an example. Edgerton just fits the criteria for Quill that I see in my mind - Doesn't mean I'm right.
Marvel haven't let us down, yet.
Looking forward to seeing how this pans out.
KangConquers
11-29-2012, 09:37 AM
I will say this shortlist is ten times better than the Short List for Cap, which was horrible.
Garrett Hedlund is quickly becoming the male Emily Blunt for Marvel. I'm sure he'll wind up on even more shortlists if he doesn't get this.
I think Hedlund ends up in Disney Star Wars
SuperSAINT
11-29-2012, 10:46 AM
I will say this shortlist is ten times better than the Short List for Cap, which was horrible.
Garrett Hedlund is quickly becoming the male Emily Blunt for Marvel. I'm sure he'll wind up on even more shortlists if he doesn't get this.
Blunt has noticeably more talent than Hedlund though!
KangConquers
11-29-2012, 10:49 AM
Blunt has noticeably more talent than Hedlund though!
...I don't know how that's relevant to the analogy.
AVEITWITHJAMON
11-29-2012, 12:15 PM
Depends entirely what kind of traits they want Quill to have.
I think Edgerton & Pace would play quite different Star-Lords myself.
Probably, I guess it will depend on screen-tests, etc, I think the more modern SL is the one they are going for.
Hollywood (and specifically Marvel Studios) rarely think this way.
They don't go "We love Hedlund, but we should save him for this..."
They go: "We like this guy; do we have a role for him?"
I know they dont think this way Kang, I was stating my personal preferences out of the list we were given.
Joeyjojo72
11-29-2012, 03:33 PM
I think its fair to discuss preferences as well as the likelihood of said preferences. Otherwise you end up having to explain, over and over, why, for example, Lynn Collins will never be WW or why Taylor Klitsh will never be [insert MCU role here]. Reality checks are useful and necessary.
Chewy
11-29-2012, 04:42 PM
I like to picture Kitsch sitting by the phone, waiting for a call from Bryan Singer that will never come
SuperSAINT
11-29-2012, 05:01 PM
...I don't know how that's relevant to the analogy.
It was a statement of fact.
pr0xyt0xin
11-29-2012, 05:17 PM
Lee Pace. So glad to see he's being looked at for the MCU.
pr0xyt0xin
11-29-2012, 05:37 PM
Sorry to rehash this, I didn't notice, but regarding my comment asking if it is suppose to take place in present day, I thought I heard somewhere that it was going to take place in the 30th century, or something, so I was just curious
If they wanted to avoid the "how did humans leave our solar system in the present day" I could see them setting it in the future. Thanos overpowers the team, fcks a bunch of sht up and nearly destroys the universe. The GotG have to travel back in time to warn the Avengers. w/e
Darthphere
11-29-2012, 05:41 PM
So we don't bring up Jude Law's name everytime when it comes to casting?
pr0xyt0xin
11-29-2012, 05:42 PM
im actually okay with most of the rumored casting choices. I'd prefer it not be Sturgess, Hedlund or Marsden.
Darthphere
11-29-2012, 05:43 PM
If they wanted to avoid the "how did humans leave our solar system in the present day" I could see them setting it in the future. Thanos overpowers the team, fcks a bunch of sht up and nearly destroys the universe. The GotG have to travel back in time to warn the Avengers. w/e
Or just have him travel through a wormhole like on Farscape. It takes 5 seconds to explain that. I like that better than the whole 30th Century angle.
kedrell
12-01-2012, 07:33 PM
Think Marsden would be too old myself, Edgerton is a bit too old as well but looks young enough to pull it off.
Think Hedlund would be better as Richard Rider/Nova, Jack Huston wouldnt be bad either, though I have only ever seen him in Outlander.
You should really watch Boardwalk Empire then.
Spider-Vader
12-02-2012, 02:15 AM
I really hope Star-Lord wears his mask for most of the movie; but since that seems to be a big no-no for most superhero movies, I doubt it. It'd be nice for Marvel/Gunn to take a chance & do that though, try something different.
I don't read the books, is there a particular reason he would need to wear the mask constantly? Otherwise people will be asking why he never takes off the mask.
ctsketch
12-02-2012, 03:02 PM
He takes it off in the comics frequently...
Joeyjojo72
12-02-2012, 04:15 PM
Lol at those who think that 39 is "too old". Harrison Ford was in his late 30's and 40's when he played Han and Indy. Most of the best actors working today are in this age range (or older). To exclude this "sweet spot" of talent (late thirties early forties) when casting Marvel movies would be just plain stupid. And Marvel aint stupid.
KangConquers
12-02-2012, 05:27 PM
Lol at those who think that 39 is "too old". Harrison Ford was in his late 30's and 40's when he played Han and Indy. Most of the best actors working today are in this age range (or older). To exclude this "sweet spot" of talent (late thirties early forties) when casting Marvel movies would be just plain stupid. And Marvel aint stupid.
Star-Lord is not Han Solo. He's his own character.
Joeyjojo72
12-02-2012, 05:42 PM
thanks for pointing that out. totally negates my argument :whatever:
Chewy
12-02-2012, 05:45 PM
I don't read the books, is there a particular reason he would need to wear the mask constantly? Otherwise people will be asking why he never takes off the mask.
He didn't wear it constantly in the comics. Only when they went out on their missions, really, and he took it off while they weren't fighting and/or in open space
CrypticOne
12-03-2012, 03:37 AM
I really hope Huston gets the role! The guy is great.
AVEITWITHJAMON
12-06-2012, 06:32 AM
I really hope Star-Lord wears his mask for most of the movie; but since that seems to be a big no-no for most superhero movies, I doubt it. It'd be nice for Marvel/Gunn to take a chance & do that though, try something different.
The mask opens in the comics though so I dont see it as a problem if he did wear it all the time as he could have it open in a lot of scene's.
Raoul Duke
12-06-2012, 06:49 AM
quill needs to be played by an older gentleman i think. not old old, but not a 20 year old. someone who looks a bit rough round the edges and worn, but still handsome.
bradley cooper, joel edgerton or even josh brolin would be my choices.
Joeyjojo72
12-06-2012, 01:36 PM
exactly. someone who's been around the block a few times. in this day and age, that means minimum late 30's. And there are so many great actors in this range (35-45) that its just a no-brainer. Plus, it can only help a virtually unknown property like GotG to have a semi-familiar face in the lead. Particularly since hes the only human character.
I understand if youre 20, you might think 40 is old. It isn't.
Now there are some actors who have the talent and physical presence to play older (Mel Gibson was only 24 when he played Max in the Road Warrior for example), but thats a rare commodity today. Most actors, post-30, try and play YOUNGER characters, not the other way around.
KangConquers
12-06-2012, 02:35 PM
exactly. someone who's been around the block a few times. in this day and age, that means minimum late 30's. And there are so many great actors in this range (35-45) that its just a no-brainer. Plus, it can only help a virtually unknown property like GotG to have a semi-familiar face in the lead. Particularly since hes the only human character.
I understand if youre 20, you might think 40 is old. It isn't.
Now there are some actors who have the talent and physical presence to play older (Mel Gibson was only 24 when he played Max in the Road Warrior for example), but thats a rare commodity today. Most actors, post-30, try and play YOUNGER characters, not the other way around.
I'm fine with 35-39 in a pinch. Over 40 is really unacceptable.
I get that you're stuck on the idea of an older actor. People were stuck on older actors for Captain America, Thor, Batman...characters that turned out fine with actors in the late 20s to early 30s range.
I'd like to see a roughly 30 year old actor "Go through some stuff" over the course of 2-3 movies and become that grizzled warrior. Peter Quill is our "in" to the GoTG universe. I want someone with a little more spunk, like Captain Kirk in the Star Trek reboot.
Star-Lord doesn't start out jaded. He starts out angry, driven, and hungry. That's what drives him to the stars. I think watching the character transform is a lot more compelling than using a stock "Bad-ass" like Han Solo. Characters like that tend to only work in supporting roles.
Ultimately? Your whole desire to see a "Grizzled older, hard boiled" Star-Lord? Would be detrimental to the franchise. Maybe a semi-star would put some buts in the seats, but the story would sag a bit with the characterization you desire.
Raoul Duke
12-06-2012, 02:44 PM
i don't think so. well my hope is they don't bother with origins. just jump straight in with recaps of how these guys got out here, similar to the vid-log things in DnA's series. by that time quill would have been out in space a while and no so wide eyed and amazed. i don't want spider-man in space. quill should be almost snake plisskin like. obviously not as cynical and hard boiled, but none of this stuff should phase him, he should be quite droll and casual about it.
the quill from giffen's mini and DnA's series is still quick witted, but he's clearly a bit jaded and his harbouring some regrets and resentments. he's also clearly used to all this wacky space stuff. that is the quill i want to see in the film. not a wide eye youngster who is amazed at all this stuff. there is still room for growth and development with a character like that. maybe as the film progresses he becomes less jaded and cynical with these new people around him, particularly rocket raccoon/
Chewy
12-06-2012, 06:17 PM
This is our first real trip to Cosmic Marvel on film, and Star-Lord will be the audience surrogate, discovering as he goes. No origin would be a mistake. Asking the audience to buy that this is the same universe as Iron Man without easing them into it seems illogical.
Joeyjojo72
12-06-2012, 06:33 PM
I'm fine with 35-39 in a pinch. Over 40 is really unacceptable.
I get that you're stuck on the idea of an older actor. People were stuck on older actors for Captain America, Thor, Batman...characters that turned out fine with actors in the late 20s to early 30s range.
I'd like to see a roughly 30 year old actor "Go through some stuff" over the course of 2-3 movies and become that grizzled warrior. Peter Quill is our "in" to the GoTG universe. I want someone with a little more spunk, like Captain Kirk in the Star Trek reboot.
Star-Lord doesn't start out jaded. He starts out angry, driven, and hungry. That's what drives him to the stars. I think watching the character transform is a lot more compelling than using a stock "Bad-ass" like Han Solo. Characters like that tend to only work in supporting roles.
Ultimately? Your whole desire to see a "Grizzled older, hard boiled" Star-Lord? Would be detrimental to the franchise. Maybe a semi-star would put some buts in the seats, but the story would sag a bit with the characterization you desire.
im perfectly okay with a young, fresh-faced star-lord. i would prefer an older Quill, but it doesnt mean they cant make a great movie with the young version.
but excluding actors over 40 is just stupid, and Marvel isnt stupid. you saying its "unacceptable" only shows that you're the one with an "age" issue. you need to get over it.
and whoever suggested Jude Law: he could definitely work! Hes a really good, charismatic actor who has tons of range, and is handsome but no longer considered a pretty boy. the best thing about Sherlock Holmes imo is his Watson. Now that hes in my mind, im putting him in the top 5. Assuming he can do a passable American accent (cant remember off-hand). plus, by the time they start shooting he'll be over 40! ;)
Joeyjojo72
12-06-2012, 06:44 PM
im perfectly okay with a young, fresh-faced star-lord. i would prefer an older Quill, but it doesnt mean they cant make a great movie with the young version.
but excluding actors over 40 is just stupid, and Marvel isnt stupid. you saying its "unacceptable" only shows that you're the one with an "age" issue. you need to get over it.
and whoever suggested Jude Law: he could definitely work! Hes a really good, charismatic actor who has tons of range, and is handsome but no longer considered a pretty boy. the best thing about Sherlock Holmes imo is his Watson. Now that hes in my mind, im putting him in the top 5. Assuming he can do a passable American accent (cant remember off-hand). plus, by the time they start shooting he'll be over 40! ;)
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2010/02/image-4-for-jude-law-in-his-latest-film-repo-men-gallery-489660783.jpg
Joeyjojo72
12-06-2012, 06:45 PM
oopsies. sorry for the double post.
ctsketch
12-07-2012, 07:18 AM
remember. whoever plays star lord is presumably playing hims for YEARS. so we should start with an actor in their early thirties and by time GOTG and Avengers does there runs they will be in their 40s
misjuevos
12-07-2012, 01:12 PM
So who thinks whedon will kill starlord in one of the future movies?
SuperSAINT
12-07-2012, 01:14 PM
Lee Pace auditions Monday.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/12/07/lee-pace-guardians-of-the-galaxy-star-lord/
combocaz
12-07-2012, 01:23 PM
Lee Pace auditions Monday.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/12/07/lee-pace-guardians-of-the-galaxy-star-lord/
I think he will get it.
Joeyjojo72
12-07-2012, 01:38 PM
If RDJ can be replaced, so can the guy playing Star-Lord. Age isnt an issue.
Lee Pace has a good look I guess. Dont really know his work though.
Joeyjojo72
12-07-2012, 01:45 PM
Based on the list of frontrunners, it looks like Marvel doesnt want to spend a lot of money on casting. None of those guys are A-listers. Which is fine. But it probably means a younger, less established actor.
I like this because it means more money for everything else. Including next-level CG for Rocket, Groot et al. 175 million might actually be adequate if they're gonna save money on casting. Plus, they don't have to worry about "back end" compensation for their actors or director.
flickchick85
12-07-2012, 02:55 PM
So as I've said before, I don't know much about the character, but some quick Google image searching suggests that he will be wearing a mask most of (if not all of) the time. If that's the case, then The Voice will be key, and out of these candidates, Lee Pace is a big Win in the voice department, imo.
Plus, he's an awesome actor, and as a little bonus, he just happens to be the tallest of all the candidates, too. With a little bulk, he could strike a very imposing figure. I really hope he gets the role.
Lee Pace has moved up to my favorite for the part
Silvermoth
12-07-2012, 07:17 PM
Good luck Lee! I hope he gets it!
KangConquers
12-08-2012, 07:42 AM
So as I've said before, I don't know much about the character, but some quick Google image searching suggests that he will be wearing a mask most of (if not all of) the time. If that's the case, then The Voice will be key, and out of these candidates, Lee Pace is a big Win in the voice department, imo.
Plus, he's an awesome actor, and as a little bonus, he just happens to be the tallest of all the candidates, too. With a little bulk, he could strike a very imposing figure. I really hope he gets the role.
When Star-Lord is in space or fighting he wears the mask. When he's not in either scenario he doesn't. Pace would be excellent either way.
Agreed. And, also in movies studios want their leading mans face to be seen. Think about how little Cap wore his mask
flickchick85
12-08-2012, 02:12 PM
When Star-Lord is in space or fighting he wears the mask. When he's not in either scenario he doesn't. Pace would be excellent either way.
Ah ok, thanks for filling me in. Like you said, Pace would be excellent either way, imo.
R_Hythlodeus
12-08-2012, 03:39 PM
Ugh. Lee Pace would be an awful choice. Hopefully he won't get it.
Chewy
12-08-2012, 03:50 PM
Edgerton's my favorite for the role, he's way overdue for a breakout role
Silvermoth
12-08-2012, 04:23 PM
Agreed. And, also in movies studios want their leading mans face to be seen. Think about how little Cap wore his mask
Actually that is true. Remember how Andrew Garfield's Spider-man had to keep thinking of ways for his mask to fall off?
pr0xyt0xin
12-08-2012, 05:57 PM
The mask issue is timeless. Almost every secret identity in the last 10 years of CBM is guilty of it. I agree its silly and sad, but specifically in the case of Andrew Garfield as Spidey, it actually served to help me picture him as Spider-Man. Seeing Andrew do backflip kicks instead of just stuntman in Spidey costume wasn't without its upside.
As far as Pace as Quill, as I've said before I really like it. Quill needs charisma and Pace has it. He may not be very physically imposing, but it makes sense to completely avoid that characteristic for Quill. The comic book panel adds ten pounds of muscle. Pace would be an accurate build in comparison to Hemsworth's Thor and Evans CapAm imo.
This picture helps sell it for me :)
http://cdn2.team-twilight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Lee_AnonymousScreening_1.jpg
pr0xyt0xin
12-08-2012, 06:02 PM
Edgerton's my favorite for the role, he's way overdue for a breakout role
Lee Pace is most definitely overdue for the same. Pace may be my favored, but Edgerton more than qualifies as second. There are still many MCU characters whose shoes Edgerton could fill.
Raoul Duke
12-09-2012, 12:35 AM
Star Lord doesn't really wear his mask that much anyway. He only has it on when they are on missions. even then he sometimes has it off.
Moridin
12-09-2012, 04:47 PM
I'd be cool with Pace but I hope Edgerton gets it.
metaphysician
12-11-2012, 05:08 PM
Does Peter Quill even *have* a secret identity?
Chewy
12-11-2012, 11:03 PM
I don't remember it being explicitly stated but I believe the mask is mostly used so he doesn't suffocate in the far reaches of space (Jack Flag wore a kind of similar mask too, and Rocket wore one of those bubble helmets)
pr0xyt0xin
12-12-2012, 01:01 AM
In other words no. From everything I've read on him, its just Peter Quill, Star-Lord. Everyone who needs to know who he is, does.
KangConquers
12-12-2012, 08:35 AM
Does Peter Quill even *have* a secret identity?
No. And given that so far none of the MCU characters have had one, I doubt Quill would be the one to change that.
Joeyjojo72
12-12-2012, 02:16 PM
Well I would assume that Widow, being a spy, has some kind of secret life when she's not working. Though if she did have a cover, it would appear to be blown after the events in NY. I guess she can just change her hair again, or start wearing glasses.
No. And given that so far none of the MCU characters have had one, I doubt Quill would be the one to change that.
Yeah, do u think we will ever get to see a superhero in the MCU have a secret identity?? I think DareDevil will probably be the only one.
Even Spidey in ASM at Sony looks like he might just ditch his mask altogether!
Chewy
12-12-2012, 04:55 PM
No. And given that so far none of the MCU characters have had one, I doubt Quill would be the one to change that.
The Winter Soldier will be :oldrazz:
metaphysician
12-12-2012, 05:01 PM
Well I would assume that Widow, being a spy, has some kind of secret life when she's not working. Though if she did have a cover, it would appear to be blown after the events in NY. I guess she can just change her hair again, or start wearing glasses.
She's not really a good example. For one thing, she basically doesn't have a public ID at all, being a secret agent who doesn't seem to have a major private life. For another, its not clear she actually conceals that Natasha Romanov is the Black Widow, anymore than James Bond conceals that he is 007. Basically, if you are clued in enough to know that either person exists, they don't really try to hide the other half of themselves.
KangConquers
12-14-2012, 03:37 PM
The Winter Soldier will be :oldrazz:
And yet, he's the one with a ****ing domino mask.
Rowsdower!
12-20-2012, 04:33 PM
And yet, he's the one with a ****ing domino mask.
LOL
I love domino masks.
"HMMM YOUR CHIN, HAIR, CHEEKBONES, LIPS, EARS AND EYES LOOK A LOT LIKE MY CO-WORKER JIM WHO I SEE EVERYDAY BUT I CAN'T SEE YOUR EYEBROWS SO I SHOULDN'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. NOPE, NOT AT ALL."
TheIrishAvenger
12-21-2012, 06:04 PM
Star Lord Role In GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY Narrowed Down To Zachary Levi, Jim Strurgess And A Mystery Man.
Just before Hollywood shuts down for the holidays, Marvel Studios has narrowed its shortlist of actors to star in James Gunn's "Guardians of the Galaxy," with Zachary Levi and Jim Sturgess still in contention to play team leader Peter Quill. Better known as Star-Lord, Quill is the son of a human mother and alien father. A charming troublemaker who serves as an interplanetary policeman, Quill leads a rag-tag group of superheroes (Drax the Destroyer, a raccoon named Rocket and a sword-wielding woman (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118063930/#) named Gamora) in an effort to protect the solar system from an evil alien race. The character isn't as well known as other Marvel superheroes such as Iron Man, Captain America or Thor, but Quill is still a plum role for thesps looking to boost their international profile.
Marvel reportedly made test deals (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118063930/#) with five potential leading men several weeks ago, though "Cloud Atlas" star Sturgess is the only one from that list to remain in contention. Levi was not featured on the initial group, though sources tell Variety that Marvel has a lot of faith in the "Chuck" star, who plays a supporting role in "Thor: The Dark World."
Levi stepped in to replace Joshua Dallas as Fandral, one of the Warriors Three, in the comicbook sequel, and Marvel is said to be impressed with his "Guardians" test and open to continuing their relationship. Marvel has had its eye on Levi for a while, as he had been in talks to play Fandral in the original "Thor" before NBC decided to order more episodes of "Chuck."
"Guardians of the Galaxy" is among the more humorous properties in Marvel's stable, and Levi has proved his comedy chops over the course of five seasons as the star of NBC's "Chuck."
Sturgess has much more experience as a leading man on the bigscreen with starring turns in Robert Luketic's "21," Peter Weir's "The Way Back" and in Julie Taymor's "Across the Universe." He also showed off his range playing multiple characters in WB's "Cloud Atlas" and has also already led a team of guardians, having voiced the lead role in Zack Snyder's animated pic "Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole."
While Levi and Sturgess remain frontrunners to play Star-Lord, sources caution that an unnamed third actor may be tested after the holidays. As for the other actors who reportedly inked test deals, none are hurting for work: Eddie Redmaybe is in negotiations to join (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118063930/#) Wachowski Starship's big-budget sci-fi pic "Jupiter Ascending," while Joel Edgerton recently signed on to play the villain opposite Natalie Portman and Michael Fassbender in Lynne Ramsay's "Jane Got a Gun."
Should either Levi or Sturgess come away with the coveted role, CAA will have bragging rights, as it represents both actors.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118063930/
Darthphere
12-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Terrible. Terrible.
Chewy
12-21-2012, 06:17 PM
So I guess we all agree that we're rooting for the third mystery actor
Seriously, what the hell? Of all the people to double dip on, Chuck?
Darthphere
12-21-2012, 06:19 PM
I can't stand the dude, he makes Sturgess look like the obvious choice.
Jake Cassidy
12-21-2012, 06:30 PM
This has to be BS. Levi is already Fandral and Marvel is not going to have the same actor play 2 different characters in the same universe.
Fandral is small role, I could see them having him do both. Sturgess is going to get it. I wonder who the mystery man is?
JB-the-Hunter
12-21-2012, 07:39 PM
No way Levi gets it. I don't care how small a role Fandral is. It's one thing to have two or more different actors playing one character, it's another thing to have one actor playing different characters. Hoping the third actor gets it.
CosmicCap
12-21-2012, 10:19 PM
lee pace!!!
fixxxer
12-21-2012, 11:09 PM
Fandral is a small role, and it certainly is possible to have a single actor play multiple roles in a shared universe... but is it necessary at all?
Is Levi's thespian skills so blindingly brilliant that the MCU would come apart at it's seams, were he not Star-Lord?
Project862006
12-22-2012, 06:27 AM
sturgess all the way he is a phenomenal actor who doesn't get enough praise and sturgress also has tons of experience as a lead of a film like Robert Luketic’s 21, Peter Weir’s The Way Back and in Julie Taymor’s Across the Universe, not to mention multiple roles in the Wachowski Siblings’ Cloud Atlas.
R_Hythlodeus
12-22-2012, 06:54 AM
This has to be BS. Levi is already Fandral and Marvel is not going to have the same actor play 2 different characters in the same universe.
I agree. And don't forget that those two characters are both parts of the cosmic section of that universe. sooner or later they are goning to meet. what happens then? will they rerecast Fandral with Josh Dallas?
Project862006
12-22-2012, 07:02 AM
to be fair doesn't star lord wear a mask?
cherokeesam
12-22-2012, 07:51 AM
I agree. And don't forget that those two characters are both parts of the cosmic section of that universe. sooner or later they are goning to meet. what happens then? will they rerecast Fandral with Josh Dallas?
...Why the hell would Fandral the Dashing ever cross paths with Peter Freakin' Quill....? :dry:
In what alternate reality does that happen?
chamber-music
12-22-2012, 09:17 AM
Lee Pace better be Ant-Man or something if he doesn't get this role.
I've got to say I've been impressed with the list of actors Marvel are rumored to be looking at for roles overall. Alot of talented guy who aren't just getting auditions because they are flavour of the month.
KangConquers
12-22-2012, 12:51 PM
No way Levi gets it. I don't care how small a role Fandral is. It's one thing to have two or more different actors playing one character, it's another thing to have one actor playing different characters. Hoping the third actor gets it.
Well rumor has it that Fandrall croaks in Thor: The Dark World, which would make the casting much less offensive.
Frankly, I'm all for it. As a huge Chuck fan, how could I ever say no?
Darthphere
12-22-2012, 12:56 PM
Well there's your problem right there...Chuck is terrible. :oldrazz:
KangConquers
12-22-2012, 01:16 PM
Well there's your problem right there...Chuck is terrible. :oldrazz:
:jedi
craigdbfan
12-22-2012, 02:13 PM
I don't want either one. Ugh.
Really wanted Pace to get it. Now I'm hoping the unnamed third actor who Marvel is going to test in the upcoming weeks get it. Rather take a chance with the mystery man than these two.
Project862006
12-22-2012, 04:21 PM
why jim sturgress is a great actor really loved him in the way back
Sturgess was my least favorite of the original contenders. I can't support the third guy for fear it will be someone terrible, and far worse than Levi or Jim.
Pace could still be Ant Man
Chewy
12-22-2012, 05:32 PM
Yeah Sturgess was my least favorite of the original five. He's a fine actor but I can't picture him in the role at all. I'm really hoping neither he or Levi land the role.
Go third guy!
flickchick85
12-22-2012, 09:13 PM
why jim sturgress is a great actor really loved him in the way back
See, he was easily the weak link in that movie to me. Colin Farrell and Ed Harris rocked it, while he was the "main character" and was just kinda...there. That's actually the movie that made me realize how much I don't like him. He can emote just fine, but he has no presence whatsoever, imo.
So again, I vote Mystery Man!
cherokeesam
12-22-2012, 11:58 PM
I don't get the hate for Levi. He's a popular TV/film actor with *lots* of geek cred; he's "one of us." I'd rather see somebody who knows and understands the genre and the material than to have just another wannabe action star muddle his way through this.
Rowsdower!
12-23-2012, 12:08 AM
Not too wild about either of these choices. Levi is okay but it does bug me that they would be reusing an actor playing a character in the same universe (even though Star-Lord and Fandral would probably never actually meet). And Sturgess hasn't really impressed me in anything so far. He just came off like a poor man's Ewan MacGregor in Across the Universe and he was fairly average in Cloud Atlas.
I'd jump on the "mystery man" bandwagon, but sometimes the unknown is an even worse option. Watch the unnamed actor turn out to be someone like Charming Potato or Justin Timberlake.
Oberon sexton
12-23-2012, 12:28 AM
What happened to Edgerton? He woulda killed it.
Project862006
12-23-2012, 06:30 AM
See, he was easily the weak link in that movie to me. Colin Farrell and Ed Harris rocked it, while he was the "main character" and was just kinda...there. That's actually the movie that made me realize how much I don't like him. He can emote just fine, but he has no presence whatsoever, imo.
So again, I vote Mystery Man!
i agree and starlord might not be the part for him jim shines in the sympathetic every man role
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