Guardians of the Galaxy: General Discussion & Speculation Thread

[craigdbfan]

Guardians of the Galaxy: General Discussion & Speculation Thread

http://i.imgur.com/u6lgQ.jpg


Discuss any and all ideas about GotG here. :)

[Darthphere]

Nova is in this movie and they're just saving him for a big announcement type deal. I can almost guarantee it.

[JB-the-Hunter]

Do you think they'll get ILM or Weta to work on this? I really hope so.

[Darthphere]

Maybe both.

[craigdbfan]

I think Marvel will probably get one of those two or both like Darth said to lead the VFX in this.

The Avengers pretty much had every major VFX department working on it. There won't be as many for GotG but I definitely think they'll have a number of those companies returning for this.

[Darthphere]

I think ILM did most of the stuff on Avengers right? It's not unusual though to have multiple visual fx firms working on the same movie.

[JB-the-Hunter]

I want to see what weta can do with Rocket Raccoon

[Kiltman]

I think ILM did most of the stuff on Avengers right? It's not unusual though to have multiple visual fx firms working on the same movie.


They've collaborated in the past, I think both will work on this. Especially since Weta has a whole physical prop division...I could see the breakdown being Weta on the Characters...especially Rocket Raccoon & Groot as well as the physical props. And ILM doing most of the rest. They need to work with Weta, they are the best at mo-cap and making Digital characters believable (see Gollum and Ceasar from Planet of the Apes).

[JB-the-Hunter]

So when do you guys think we'll start getting some news on this? Iron Man 3 is almost done filming I think, Thor just started filming, we should probably start getting some Captain America casting news soon, so my guess is we'll have a director before winter

[Chewy]

I would think a director within the next month or two. Maybe Star-Lord casting before the year ends

[spideymouse]

I want to see what weta can do with Rocket Raccoon
Now that's some test footage I'd pay to see.

I haven't caught any of the modern GOTG comics. Are there any great plotlines that you guys see being adapted?

[Darthphere]

Not really. I mean, most of their 25 issue run was tie-ins to some big event or in the case of the start of the series, fallout. I'd expect them to retrofit some of the Annihilation storylines or come up with something fairly original not seen in the comics.

[LauraT]

I would think a director within the next month or two. Maybe Star-Lord casting before the year ends


Considering the tight two year time frame for this movie we could start hearing about a short list any time and certainly something definite in the next couple of months.

[spideymouse]

Not really. I mean, most of their 25 issue run was tie-ins to some big event or in the case of the start of the series, fallout. I'd expect them to retrofit some of the Annihilation storylines or come up with something fairly original not seen in the comics.Must be why everyone's expecting GOTG to tie into Avengers 2 with Thanos. Could it deal with the fallout from the first Avengers movie and the events of Thor 2, maybe?

[Darthphere]

Must be why everyone's expecting GOTG to tie into Avengers 2 with Thanos. Could it deal with the fallout from the first Avengers movie and the events of Thor 2, maybe?

Because it makes the most sense, especially if Thanos is the main bad guy. I have this idea in my head that they team up to fight Thanos and they lose at the end of the movie and you see Thanos and his army traveling towards Earth. In an after credits scene you see one of the GotG (Star-Lord more than likely if Nova isn't involved) battle broken getting up, suiting up and jetting off to Earth to warn them that Thanos is coming. Then a title card saying "You Can See Star Lord....in Avengers 2"

Of course, Nova would be a better candidate for that role in my head. Though I don't know if Marvel will have any of these guys in Avengers 2. Just seems weird that they would be fighting Thanos and then be like "Oh he's going to Earth, we're busy."

[misjuevos]

I can't wait to see more space, planets, aliens. Hope they throw in some kree soldiers and some skulls hanging around somewhere at a spaceport or something.

[spideymouse]

Do you guys expect to see the Guardians together already at the beginning of the movie, or will they have to, ahem, assemble?

[Darthphere]

Do you guys expect to see the Guardians together already at the beginning of the movie, or will they have to, ahem, assemble?

Assemble as all of them have different agendas and motivations. When these guys all met in Annihilation: Conquest, they were in prison.

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Don't know much about these guys other than their A:EMH appearance but I'm really excited for a space epic set in the MCU and even more so if Thanos is going to be involved. Wonder what kind of actors they are going to get since you won't get a lot of "face" time as some of these characters

[KangConquers]

So how can marvel increase the profile of these characters going into the movie? Contrary to some hyperbolic opinions about Iron Man etc being nobodies, those characters were somewhat established with the GA; not to the degree of Spider-Man, but Iron Man, Cap and Thor had been in cartoons, action figures, video games, etc.

The Guardians of the Galaxy have had little to no crossover into the Mainstream. How does Marvel avoid this becoming their Serenity?

[Chewy]

Thor was in basically nothing before his movie, too. A cartoon from the 60s, a Hulk TV movie and a couple of DTV animated flicks. A couple toys here and there

So do it like you did Thor. Throw them in all your video games, TV shows, toylines, etc for the next two years. And hire some big name actors.

[JB-the-Hunter]

So how can marvel increase the profile of these characters going into the movie? Contrary to some hyperbolic opinions about Iron Man etc being nobodies, those characters were somewhat established with the GA; not to the degree of Spider-Man, but Iron Man, Cap and Thor had been in cartoons, action figures, video games, etc.

The Guardians of the Galaxy have had little to no crossover into the Mainstream. How does Marvel avoid this becoming their Serenity?

Rocket Raccoon is in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 and mentions Guardians of the Galaxy often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4hDjttNGgYA#t=68s
Star-Lord Rocky and Groot were all in episodes of EMH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLMq7lRqgqY

[Darthphere]

Marketing will take care of getting the general public on board with these characters. Look at Star Wars. Completely original characters that no one knew anything about and it became one of the biggest movie franchises of all time.

I may sound like a loon for saying it but this could become our generation's Star Wars.

[Colossal Spoons]

Do you guys expect to see the Guardians together already at the beginning of the movie, or will they have to, ahem, assemble?

They'll need to assemble, but hopefully it happens quickly. Unlike in Avengers.

[cherokeesam]

Thought this might be interesting. Looks like Marvel is going after Latino Review to give up their source for GOTG and IM3 leaks pre-SDCC:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/marvel-movies-iron-man-3-guardians-galaxy-leak-352022

If the email is legit, you can lend a bit more credibility to other LR scoops recently. But I'm not going to give them a Woodward & Bernstein Journalistic Integrity Award just yet --- hell, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that LR made up the letter themselves just to make their wild-ass sources look more credible.

Will be interesting to see if legal action ensues, though. (hah, wordplay)

[Darthphere]

At the same time, they seemed to get the Black Panther scoop dead wrong.

[TheVileOne]

Well they are right, the Latino Review writers are not journalists and they are fanboys and it is a fanboy website ;) .

I kid, I kid.

I got to be honest though, as a journalist I personally hate all these secret hidden sources and un-sourced information. If people are putting stuff out there they potentially shouldn't, they should be willing to do it in the open and accept the consequences.

[Darthphere]

Of course, the guys over at Latino Review are making a big deal about this. I didn't see anyone threaten a lawsuit or legal action in that letter. They just asked for a cooperation. At the end of the day, they're profiting off of stolen goods (they mention stolen art) so I don't think they should get the benefit of the doubt. Marvel wants to know who is leaking their stuff and in return will provide some favors. It's all shady but at least Marvel isn't going straight to sue their asses territory.

[Kiltman]

At the same time, they seemed to get the Black Panther scoop dead wrong.

Yea that fell flat pretty quick, if Avengers 2 is coming in 2016 instead of 2015 like everyone thinks....they might be right and we getaway BLack Panther film in '15. But yea right now it seems dead wrong.

[TheVileOne]

I stopped paying attention to them when they endorsed the Chun-Li script.

[Tissues]

For Groot and Rocket, I think it would be nice if they used suit performances with cgi enhancements like Where the Wild Things Are. Give them something tangible to work with.

[Darthphere]

Looks like Latino Review are trying to stir **** up with Marvel. Not a very classy or respectable thing to do, make this fued public. They probably want everyone to stand up for them and have Marvel back down. I don't if that will work, it doesn't look like they're dealing with this very maturely, I don't know if many people support them like they had probably hoped.

Indeed. Like I said, if you actually read the letter, LR is blowing this thing out of proportion. They're like "They're threatening my career!" No they're not.:whatever::whatever:

[TheVileOne]

For Groot and Rocket, I think it would be nice if they used suit performances with cgi enhancements like Where the Wild Things Are. Give them something tangible to work with.
Or put Peter Dinklage in a raccoon costume ;) .

[JB-the-Hunter]

When are we gonna get some guardians in Avengers Alliance?

[Doc Ock]

Wow! Of all the things I saw Marvel Studios doing in the near future a Guardians of the Galaxy film was not one of them! Thats awesome! Unfortunately I have a very limited knowledge of the GotG. I think I only own one or two issues! But nevertheless it is exciting!

[bored]

Or put Peter Dinklage in a raccoon costume ;) .

No.

[TacomaTruck90]

This is exciting ! I cnt wait hear more about this movie it's most interesting concepts in phase II to me and how it will tie into the next avengers

[psylockolussus]

Or put Peter Dinklage in a raccoon costume ;) .

That is unlikely to happen. I'm sure they are gonna use CGI for Rocket Raccoon. And I fear that if they use a costume, it would look goofy and the actor wouldn't look like a real raccoon.

[Captain Marvel]

Nevermind the fact that Peter Dinklage IS NOT RACCOON SIZE!!!

[JB-the-Hunter]

Nevermind the fact that Peter Dinklage IS NOT RACCOON SIZE!!!

Neither is Rocket Raccoon.

Look, I'm the first one who suggested Peter Dinklage for RR, and this was way back before the movie was even announced. And I meant for him to do the voice and the motion capture as I felt someone his size could better replicate the movements of such a small character than an average sized person. Plus he's got a great voice for it. I don't know where people are getting the idea for him to wear a costume, unless they're joking.

[obin_gam]

Oh s**t I just got reminded of something - I SINCERELY HOPE they add debrief logs in the movie! :awesome:

[JB-the-Hunter]

That'd be pretty neat and unique

[Joeyjojo72]

Lol why would they use Dinklage? Rocket will be fully CGI, so the only thing that matters is the voice. Dinklage is a very good actor, love him on GoT, but theres no compelling reason why he would be cast in this role. That said, I think he could do a decent job given his general acting talent.

[KangConquers]

Oh s**t I just got reminded of something - I SINCERELY HOPE they add debrief logs in the movie! :awesome:

http://michaelmay.us/08blog/0828f_gamoragoteam.jpg

[JB-the-Hunter]

Lol why would they use Dinklage? Rocket will be fully CGI, so the only thing that matters is the voice. Dinklage is a very good actor, love him on GoT, but theres no compelling reason why he would be cast in this role. That said, I think he could do a decent job given his general acting talent.

Nobody uses fully CGI anymore. Get with the times. I see no good reason not to use motion capture since Rocky is basically a humanoid. In fact, I'll be disappointed if they don't.

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

This film shall rock

[cherokeesam]

Oh s**t I just got reminded of something - I SINCERELY HOPE they add debrief logs in the movie! :awesome:

Yep.

I think the film could use a healthy dose of not taking itself too seriously....I don't mean broad-sided slapstick comedy or anything, but you sure as hell can't play material like GOTG with a straight face.....it has to be tongue-in-cheek adventure. Which is what all good space opera is, anyway.

Plus, the debrief logs are "relevant" to modern audiences who are very familiar with that concept from reality tv.

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh s**t I just got reminded of something - I SINCERELY HOPE they add debrief logs in the movie! :awesome:

That would be awesome!

[747]

I'm not familiar with GOTG at all. But after seeing the promo-art and reading up some on the premise of it all, I'm really interested in this. Definitely gonna pick up some GOTG books now. Seems like something I could love. Epic sci-fi storytelling with cool and inventive characters, seems almost video-game-ish in it's approach.

[cherokeesam]

So Bendis' Avengers Assemble comic continues to hint at the direction the MCU is taking....

#7 is out soon, and features the (cinematic lineup) Avengers joining the (cinematic lineup) Guardians of the Galaxy to take on Thanos.

Interesting tagline: "Who needs an Infinity Gauntlet?" Shows Thanos holding up the Tesseract.

[bored]

COSMIC CUBE. Did not get why they felt the need to change the name for the movies. Hope he doesn't accidentally drop it this time.

[KangConquers]

So Bendis' Avengers Assemble comic continues to hint at the direction the MCU is taking....

#7 is out soon, and features the (cinematic lineup) Avengers joining the (cinematic lineup) Guardians of the Galaxy to take on Thanos.

Interesting tagline: "Who needs an Infinity Gauntlet?" Shows Thanos holding up the Tesseract.

I saw this and it felt very Avengers 2 ish :-).

[Chewy]

Spider-Man crossover confirmed

http://i.imgur.com/Snxh0.jpg

[KangConquers]

Spider-Man crossover confirmed

http://i.imgur.com/Snxh0.jpg

DRAT!!! *flies away in the Thanos-copter*

[JB-the-Hunter]

:pal:

[Darthphere]

COSMIC CUBE. Did not get why they felt the need to change the name for the movies. Hope he doesn't accidentally drop it this time.

I know right/ I guess Tesseract sounds less goofy than saying cosmic cube but thats what it is.

[cherokeesam]

I know right/ I guess Tesseract sounds less goofy than saying cosmic cube but thats what it is.

Yeah, pretty sure I remember reading that Feige didn't want to use "Cosmic Cube" because it sounded too cheesy. Tesseract was an homage to Madeleine L'Engle's time-travel/interdimensional stories.

[The Ironstar]

I don't care so much for this movie,but Joss says he's a big fan of Jim Starlin's "AVENGERS ANNUAL #7 and MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE #2". I'm hoping that Moondragon/Captain Mar-vell/Adam Warlock will show up at the beginning of A2 and warn the Avengers about Thanos.

http://returntocomics.typepad.com/return_to_comics/2005/08/avenger_annual_.html

We pick up the story as Adam Warlock, following a trail of devastation, finds Thanos’ right-hand wench Gamora, dying. He then sucks her soul into the Soul Gem and takes off “on quest most would find as difficult as casting a shadow on a mirror,” to stop Thanos’ effort to please Death by killing off all the stars. And we’re not talking Hollywood here. This naturally leads him to the Avengers. Unless this had been a Fantastic Four Annual, then it would have lead him to them, or the Defenders, or, well, anyway…
So it appears that Thanos’ armada is headed right for Earth and the Avengers are the only ones who can stop it (because it’s their Annual). Of course by this time Warlock has disappeared, leaving the Avengers to figure things out for themselves:

[KangConquers]

I really hope that Marvel Studios sits down with a stack of Sci-Fi movies and figures out what works and doesn't work, and what to do/ not to do.

We've had major sci-fi bombs two years in a row, one based on a comic book, the other based on a pulp novel. I'd hate to see GotG complete the trifecta.

[Chewy]

And the year before that we had a big sci-fi hit :oldrazz:

[KangConquers]

And the year before that we had a big sci-fi hit :oldrazz:

There are many major examples of sci-fi, both good and bad, from the past 10 years. I hope Marvel considers all that came before this movie while making it.

One thing I loved about Captain America so much is the sense of history the film had; there are so many homages to that sort of brisk adventure film from the 70s. I hope GoTG shows a similar awareness of great sci fi.

[chronos]

In the books Gamora has a friends with beni's relationship with Nova. Since it doesn't look like he's gonna be in this one, do you think that will be transplanted to Starlord? Seeing as how she's the only female that we know of, and Marvel, well Hollywood in general, has to have a love subplot, I could see this happening.

[Danalys]

they make good scifi films already they only need to do it again but in space for the different aesthetic.

edit: any one noticed this
http://i.imgur.com/g83Uv.jpg

[misjuevos]

i noticed i have seen that pic everywhere but in the gotg manip section, kind of lonely in there.

[The Ironstar]

For those who are interested about the original GotG (& their timeline),got a bunch of links. I hope they help y in some way.

http://everything2.com/title/The+Defenders+%252326

http://twogirlsaguyandsomecomics.blogspot.com/2009/07/guardians-of-galaxy-earth-shall.html

http://bronzeagebabies.blogspot.com/2010/05/tomorrow-is-yesterday-guardians-of.html

http://mikeluoma.com/killravencrackle.html

:hrt:

[Hypestyle]

hmm.. marvel's never done space opera in film yet. I hope the character roster isn't too crowded, it could get overwhelming easily with too many weird-shaped creatures.. there needs to be a compelling narrative, and distinct personalities among the primary characters.

Taking some cues from Star Wars is fine, but the producers shouldn't obsess over it or try to copycat it.

I'd also prefer a plot that just jumps right into it, rather than an extended origin story.. the individual origins of everybody is just too disparate..

[Spider-Vader]

I think they might do some Dirty Dozen/Mass Effect 2 style story. Adam Warlock comes to Peter Quill, tells him about his destiny & a great threat to the galaxy. Then Quill becomes the Star-Lord & goes onto create a team of the galaxy's best fighters.

[pr0xyt0xin]

Kinda interesting this'll be the first MCU film based on characters not thought up by Stan Lee. Think he will still cameo?

[Spider-Vader]

I'd like to think so since it's a Marvel Studios movie. I think Stan probably loves the idea of the Guardians.

[Chewy]

Chris McCoy has been hired to rewrite the script

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-list-guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-357868

[Suzanne78]

Chris McCoy has been hired to rewrite the script

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-list-guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-357868

MOVIE IS DOOOOOOOMED!! :doom: :doom: :doom:

Getting that out of the way, McCoy sounds like he might infuse the script with a little more comedy, which I'm all for. Help give the movie a sense of fun and wit.

Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

[Chewy]

If he's had three scripts on the black list, I'm not complaining. lol. Might track one down to check out his stuff

[JB-the-Hunter]

What's the black list exactly?

[Darthphere]

A list of unproduced scripts.

[Chewy]

It's an annual list of the best as-yet-unproduced scripts each year. It's voted on by a couple hundred execs

[JB-the-Hunter]

I bet Joss Whedon had a lot of those

[Sith]

First draft of the script is getting a rewrite

[Chewy]

Kinda interesting this'll be the first MCU film based on characters not thought up by Stan Lee. Think he will still cameo?
Stan created Groot :oldrazz:

[pr0xyt0xin]

Stan created Groot :oldrazz:

OMG HE is going to voice Groot! D:


lolwut :doh:

[Captain Marvel]

Kinda interesting this'll be the first MCU film based on characters not thought up by Stan Lee. Think he will still cameo?

Well, while we don't know if he'll even be in the movie, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby also created Adam Warlock, although they didn't come up with the name.

[Chewy]

Infinite awesome!

http://www.showblitz.com/2012/08/fox-marvel-talk-character-swap-to-keep-daredevil-going-joe-carnahan-choice-to-direct.html

Silver Surfer :awesome:

[craigdbfan]

Yes, yes, yes! Disney/Marvel turning up the heat!!!

Pinch me Chewy I'm dreaming. :hrt:

[Chewy]

If they're talking Galactus and Surfer they're probably talking Annihilus and Blastaar too (assuming Fox has the rights) :awesome: :awesome:

[craigdbfan]

It also sounds like Marvel/Disney don't only want SS and Galactus back but the entire Fantastic Four franchise and if Fox agree then they'll let them do whatever it is they're planning to do with Daredevil.

Smart ultimatum Disney/Marvel is proposing here. Lets be honest the F4 along with SS and Galactus can go to far better use in the world Marvel Studios is currently building. Fox is just letting them rot.

[Chewy]

It sounds to me like it's just the cosmic portion of the F4 license.

[spideymouse]

It also sounds like Marvel/Disney don't only want SS and Galactus back but the entire Fantastic Four franchise and if Fox agree then they'll let them do whatever it is they're planning to do with Daredevil.

Smart ultimatum Disney/Marvel is proposing here. Lets be honest the F4 along with SS and Galactus can go to far better use in the world Marvel Studios is currently building. Fox is just letting them rot.Well, the wheels are already turning at Fox for the F4 reboot, so I doubt they would get swapped. Silver Surfer is a coup though, especially with Marvel's plans for Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet storyline coming up! Also, this opens things up for a Defenders movie! =P

[craigdbfan]

I don't see why Fox would even want to keep F4 if they're giving away a good deal of their mythos away. Something tells me Fox is just going to let them have F4 in its entirety.

Lets just call it a gut feeling. SS & Galactus are definitely priority but something is just telling me they'll successfully get the F4 back too.

Well, the wheels are already turning at Fox for the F4 reboot, so I doubt they would get swapped. Silver Surfer is a coup though, especially with Marvel's plans for Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet storyline coming up! Also, this opens things up for a Defenders movie! =PFox wanted to make it look like that was the case but apparently there aren't even wheels on the bus in reality.

Trank is apparently further in development with Sony's Shadow of the Colossus than he is with F4.

[Chewy]

The guy who wrote the piece for Variety:

https://twitter.com/TheInSneider

Sounds like Fox either gives up the cosmic portion of F4 or loses Daredevil.

[spideymouse]

The guy who wrote the piece for Variety:

https://twitter.com/TheInSneider

Sounds like Fox either gives up the cosmic portion of F4 or loses Daredevil.Oh wow. Without the cosmic portion of F4... how do they even get powers? Haha.

But really, what's left? Moleman? Puppet Master? Does the Negative Zone count as cosmic?

[LauraT]

Fox wanted to make it look like that was the case but apparently there aren't even wheels on the bus in reality.

Trank is apparently further in development with Sony's Shadow of the Colossus than he is with F4.


If this turns out to be true then it's highly possible the current talk of wanting to "fast track" the development of a F4 reboot was a tactic in negotiations for FOX, especially if the team themselves were on the table.

[craigdbfan]

Oh wow. Without the cosmic portion of F4... how do they even get powers? Haha.

But really, what's left? Moleman? Puppet Master? Does the Negative Zone count as cosmic?Exactly, I see Fox cutting a deal where they just hand the entire F4 and friends back to Marvel and they get to have their 70's Frank Miller style Daredevil and get a generous extension in terms of filming rights.

Fox can develop a really good Daredevil movie that way and Marvel/Disney gets further building blocks for their cosmic universe that would otherwise be useless for Fox as they seem completely incapable of handling the F4 series anyways.

If this turns out to be true then it's highly possible the current talk of wanting to "fast track" the development of a F4 reboot was a tactic in negotiations for FOX, especially if the team themselves were on the table.Pretty much.

[Chewy]

Oh wow. Without the cosmic portion of F4... how do they even get powers? Haha.

But really, what's left? Moleman? Puppet Master? Does the Negative Zone count as cosmic?
Yeah the Negative Zone is cosmic, the entire Annihilation event was structured around it

If you lose Daredevil you can only make X-Men/F4 movies, whereas if you give up the cosmic stuff you can make X-Men/certain F4 movies/DD.

There's Dr Doom, Mole Man, Frightful Four, etc. Still stuff to mine.

[BatsDC]

Ideally, how this situation pans out:

WE get Fantastic Four and it's cosmic characters back, allowing for an AWESOME future to the MCU,

AND get a proper Daredevil film that is given time to be made, that wouldn't be possible with Marvel/Disney at the moment

Win/Win

[craigdbfan]

I guess time will tell (very soon) what ends up happening. Personally I'm hoping Marvel/Disney snatch up the F4 series entirely.

[KangConquers]

It also sounds like Marvel/Disney don't only want SS and Galactus back but the entire Fantastic Four franchise and if Fox agree then they'll let them do whatever it is they're planning to do with Daredevil.

Smart ultimatum Disney/Marvel is proposing here. Lets be honest the F4 along with SS and Galactus can go to far better use in the world Marvel Studios is currently building. Fox is just letting them rot.

I really don't get that impression at all, and if Fox did such a trade, they'd be fools, as the F4 have much greater franchise potential than Daredevil.

[OB12]

I find it hard to believe that if Marvel/Disney were in negotiations with Fox over certain F4 characters that they wouldn't try to get Marvel's greatest villian - Dr. Doom. In the end, I see them going for the whole stable of characters.

[spideymouse]

Exactly, I see Fox cutting a deal where they just hand the entire F4 and friends back to Marvel and they get to have their 70's Frank Miller style Daredevil and get a generous extension in terms of filming rights.

Fox can develop a really good Daredevil movie that way and Marvel/Disney gets further building blocks for their cosmic universe that would otherwise be useless for Fox as they seem completely incapable of handling the F4 series anyways.

Pretty much.I still don't know. The clock won't be ticking on F4 for another 2 years (FFROTSS came out in 2007, Elektra came out in 2005), and trading the whole F4 universe for an extension on Daredevil sounds completely unbalanced. Maybe your hunch is true, and if so, Marvel must be borrowing Disney's lawyers or something, because it sounds like Fox has its balls in a vise!

[BatsDC]

Outside of Doom, FF wouldn't have that many good villains to face off with in their movies if the cosmic stuff was taken away, would they?

[KangConquers]

I find it hard to believe that if Marvel/Disney were in negotiations with Fox over certain F4 characters that they wouldn't try to get Marvel's greatest villian - Dr. Doom. In the end, I see them going for the whole stable of characters.

a F4 franchise without Dr. Doom isn't a franchise. You only go after Doom if you're attempting to get the whole ball of wax.

[spideymouse]

I really don't get that impression at all, and if Fox did such a trade, they be fools, as the F4 have much greater franchise potential than Daredevil.I agree with you about half the time, KC, and this is one of those times that I do.

[craigdbfan]

I find it hard to believe that if Marvel/Disney were in negotiations with Fox over certain F4 characters that they wouldn't try to get Marvel's greatest villian - Dr. Doom. In the end, I see them going for the whole stable of characters.Yes and no. The cosmic characters are of a great value to Marvel when you take into consideration as to what they're doing. With that said I think Disney is trying to get more than just the F4 cosmic characters back.

I still don't know. The clock won't be ticking on F4 for another 2 years (FFROTSS came out in 2007, Elektra came out in 2005), and trading the whole F4 universe for an extension on Daredevil sounds completely unbalanced. Maybe your hunch is true, and if so, Marvel must be borrowing Disney's lawyers or something, because it sounds like Fox has its balls in a vise!I've long said this. When I say Disney has the best lawyers in the world that's not just hyperbole. They truly do have the best lawyers in the world.

I really don't get that impression at all, and if Fox did such a trade, they be fools, as the F4 have much greater franchise potential than Daredevil.It wouldn't be the first time.

[Chewy]

Outside of Doom, FF wouldn't have that many good villains to face off with in their movies if the cosmic stuff was taken away, would they?
"Cosmic stuff" was just my summary. Only characters specifically named are Galactus and Surfer, though the article says that they're "among" the characters. Annihilus is probably priority #3 for Marvel.

[spideymouse]

Outside of Doom, FF wouldn't have that many good villains to face off with in their movies if the cosmic stuff was taken away, would they?Let's hope that if Marvel strips Fox of F4's cosmic characters, Fox's F4 franchise eventually dies down and the whole gang eventually heads over!

[KangConquers]

Did I really put "they be fools"?

[BatsDC]

Fox must be smart enough to realise FF just wouldn't last without the cosmic stuff, and hand the rest of the characters over too... It's not like they've been itching to get another movie out, they just wanted to keep the rights until Marvel would pay them big money for them back.

[spideymouse]

Did I really put "they be fools"?
I'm sure you were just excited like the rest of us.

[KangConquers]

Outside of Doom, FF wouldn't have that many good villains to face off with in their movies if the cosmic stuff was taken away, would they?

Nope. Mole Man, Puppet Master, and **** like that.

[Chewy]

http://i.imgur.com/f5PSI.jpg

Do want :awesome:

[craigdbfan]

Nope. Mole Man, Puppet Master, and **** like that.Keyword here being ****. :p

[KangConquers]

http://i.imgur.com/f5PSI.jpg

Do want :awesome:

*Fraps*

[SuperSAINT]

This would be insane...

Is it a loan deal? Or a 'Marvel would have their rights exclusively' type thing?

I read Avi Arad said somewhere that Sony have the rights to Kingpin, but they loaned them to FOX for Affleck's Daredevil.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Nope. Mole Man, Puppet Master, and **** like that.

Mole Man isn't **** at all. He would be epic to watch on the big screen with all of his crazy Monsters and the different environments of Subterranea.

[LauraT]

This would be insane...

Is it a loan deal? Or a 'Marvel would have their rights exclusively' type thing?

I read Avi Arad said somewhere that Sony have the rights to Kingpin, but they loaned them to FOX for Affleck's Daredevil.

From the article it sounds like it could just be a loan in return for DD rights getting extended which seems a fairish trade, but who knows what's actually on the table right now. If it's just a loan it might also stipulate that FOX aren't allowed to use Silver Surfer et al for a certain amount of years/movies even if they retain over all rights to the characters.

I can't see FOX being willing to part with half the F4 franchise characters permanently if they really are gearing up for a reboot in the future and TA means that anyone with rights to a superhero team isn't going to let them go lightly, especially as the previous movies did make them money.

OTOH it might well be that much of the most recent talk of a new movie in the next two years was tactics for extracting maximum cash and deals on all other properties because now is the time they are desperate to get "The Cosmic Avengers" set up.

[Darthphere]

It makes sense in a way because if GotG takes off, Annihilation is the next logical step in that process. They would need those characters.

[Danalys]

It maybe the case that both marvel and fox would have the rights to use galactus and silver surfer and others in this arrangement if it happens. marvel and fox both can use quicksilver and the scarlet witch so it has precedence. this is a good way for marvel not to have to balance all it's characters at once and not tie roaming characters to one franchise.

[KangConquers]

Mole Man isn't **** at all. He would be epic to watch on the big screen with all of his crazy Monsters and the different environments of Subterranea.

That's actually true. For my other crappy villain I will replace him with...


ESTEBAN DIABLO!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/527077-di1_super.jpg

[ThePowerCosmic]

That's actually true. For my other crappy villain I will replace him with...


ESTEBAN DIABLO!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/527077-di1_super.jpg

Thaaaat's more like it. God that costume is horrible...

[Boom]

If Marvel can pull this off, great. But without Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and Namor, the only bankable villain that Fox would have left for F4 is Dr. Doom (I can't imagine people flocking to theaters to see the Fantastic Four take on Mole Man). If Fox goes through with this, they are effectively weakening the franchise potential for this property. The mere fact that Fox is apparently so desperate to keep Daredevil that they are willing to give up several key members of the F4 stable is truly confusing to me, as F4 is easily the more bankable property between the two.

Honestly, if I were Marvel, I'd try and shoot for the entire property. Fox seems to really want Daredevil. Put their balls in the fire.

In addition to the cosmic characters, if Marvel could get their hands on Dr. Doom - holy ****.

[Chewy]

Doom in an Avengers sequel would be too good to be true. I wouldn't believe it until I saw the movie twice :oldrazz:

[Darthphere]

I would agree with Boom if we just didn't get a Spider-Man movie with The Lizard. I mean, he's probably down the list with Mysterio when it comes to villains.

[Danalys]

the lizard is great for one story (which is better for a film than serialised entertainment,) but his story as told in ASM wasn't that well done. he's like Jekyll Hyde mixed with Frankenstein mixed with Jurassic park, pure movie magic right there if done right.

[xeno000]

This deal would be in-freaking-credible if Marvel can pull it off. Fox has had the rights to Galactus & The Silver Surfer for over a decade yet hasn't managed to do anything more than screw them over in all that time. The studio doesn't understand them, doesn't value them and will never invest the kind of money needed to do them justice. Marvel, on the other hand, has intricate plans in place that would see a cosmic story with those two which would portray them on screen the way they should be seen. None of that cloud crap because some moronic exec thinks that Galactus looks like a Transformer. :wall:


Galactus facing off against The Avengers and GotG would be all kinds of epic. The fact that it goes against comics canon wouldn't faze me one bit.


Good ol' Nikki Finke's minions have jumped in to knock down the Variety story on Fox's behalf, so we'll have to wait and see what the truth is. I certainly hope that Deadline is just being used by sources as part of the back-and-forth of negotiations between the two studios. Should forge ahead with an FF reboot they're likely to **** over the Big G again because they are too damn cheap and stupid to get him right.

[craigdbfan]

Didn't Nikki Finke also downplay the Wolverine Origins leak and insisted the final cut would be drastically different? Look how that turned out.

With that said Snieder has also been wrong before. Even then I agree xeno000 in that I hope Marvel/Disney is able to acquire Silver Surfer and Galactus along with a couple of other cosmic characters back into their hands.

Quite frankly I want the F4 back too because it isn't as Fox is going to do anything great with it. It hasn't helped that Josh Trank is also tied to two other movies (one being Shadow of the Colossus with Sony and the other with WB adapting a comic that escapes me at the moment).

[cherokeesam]

Didn't Nikki Finke also downplay the Wolverine Origins leak and insisted the final cut would be drastically different? Look how that turned out.

With that said Snieder has also been wrong before. Even then I agree xeno000 in that I hope Marvel/Disney is able to acquire Silver Surfer and Galactus along with a couple of other cosmic characters back into their hands.

Quite frankly I want the F4 back too because it isn't as Fox is going to do anything great with it. It hasn't helped that Josh Trank is also tied to two other movies (one being Shadow of the Colossus with Sony and the other with WB adapting a comic that escapes me at the moment).

Red Star. And don't forget Sony's Venom. So yeah, Trank's got a plateful. I don't look for the wheels to start turning on an FF reboot for at least 3 years.

[pr0xyt0xin]

So heres a bit of speculation. After/during an action-packed opening sequence, the film will feature debriefing to introduce the team members.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3792/guardianspi4.jpg

Not that this pic shows many confirmed characters, just an example. I think that'd be an enjoyable nod to the comics.

[Chewy]

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/joss-whedon-to-direct-avengers-2/

Marvel Studios has weighed in with a statement that confirms the 2015 release date that Deadline had heard about the sequel to The Avengers. “Joss Whedon has signed an exclusive deal with Marvel Studios for film and television through the end of June 2015. As part of that deal, Whedon will write and direct Marvel’s The Avengers 2 as well as help develop a new live action series for Marvel Television at ABC. He will also contribute creatively to the next phase of Marvel’s cinematic universe.”

So I think it's fair to say Whedon's fingerprints will be all over this one

[craigdbfan]

Happiest news of the year. :up:

[SuperSAINT]

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/joss-whedon-to-direct-avengers-2/



So I think it's fair to say Whedon's fingerprints will be all over this one

Would make me even happier now to have Drew Goddard on board to direct.

[Quasimod0]

Awesome. This movie needs some really snappy dialogue between the characters. Maybe joss could oversee the script. And its great news to have him back for avengers 2. :up:

[ThePowerCosmic]

If Marvel can pull this off, great. But without Galactus, the Silver Surfer, and Namor, the only bankable villain that Fox would have left for F4 is Dr. Doom (I can't imagine people flocking to theaters to see the Fantastic Four take on Mole Man). If Fox goes through with this, they are effectively weakening the franchise potential for this property. The mere fact that Fox is apparently so desperate to keep Daredevil that they are willing to give up several key members of the F4 stable is truly confusing to me, as F4 is easily the more bankable property between the two.

Honestly, if I were Marvel, I'd try and shoot for the entire property. Fox seems to really want Daredevil. Put their balls in the fire.

In addition to the cosmic characters, if Marvel could get their hands on Dr. Doom - holy ****.

Then you need a better imagination. If Mole Man was taken seriously he could get butts in the seats. The character has too much potential to think like that.

[Chewy]

Two different industry sites have the same logline, which i assume means it comes from Marvel:
About a U.S. pilot who ends up in space in the middle of a universal conflict and goes on the run with futuristic ex-cons who have something everyone wants.

http://iotg.force.com/searchprojectresults?keyword=guardians%20of%20the% 20galaxy

http://www.productionweekly.com/072811ib.pdf

[Darthphere]

Interesting.

[Joeyjojo72]

I like it. Now what could that "something" be? Hmmm

Hopefully "futuristic" just means "spacey". time travel plots make me tired.

[craigdbfan]

The pilot they're referring to is most likely Star-Lord right? I'm going to assume the something everyone wants are the infinity gems.

[cherokeesam]

The pilot they're referring to is most likely Star-Lord right? I'm going to assume the something everyone wants are the infinity gems.


....all neatly collected on a nice shiny Gauntlet.
Thanos: "YOU KIDS GET BACK HERE RIGHT NOW WITH MAH GLOVE, DAMMIT"

If the logline is accurate, then GOTG will definitely be set against the backdrop of Annihilation. Minus Annihilus, presumably. (Maybe. Maybe not.) Instead, the focus could be on the Phalanx vs. the Kree.

[Saitou Hajime]

Hmm... sounds suspiciously like Farscape.

[LauraT]

Sounds so far so good, though it's not really much to go on.

Hmm... sounds suspiciously like Farscape.

True "My name is Peter Quill, a radiation wave hit and I got shot through a wormwhole to a distant part of the galaxy aboard this ship of escaped prisoners, I'm being hunted by an insane commander..." :yay:

But you can also discribe Farscape in a way that makes it sound extremely like Stargate, Voyager, BSG, Firefly, Lost in Space, Star Wars....... etc and those projects are very different in how they turned out. It's not the plotline, it's how you execute it that makes the movie. This movie will probably end up more comparable to "Avengers in Space" than anything else.

[MovieMaster]

I'm calling it now: The Guardians have Thanos. LR said to read Thanos Imperative as an idea for how GOTG would turn out, and that begins with Thanos in the hands of the GOTG.

[marvel_freshman]

LR also said he will be in the movie.

[cherokeesam]

That's why it's pretty obvious what the GOTG has "that everybody wants." It's either the Tesseract (again? audiences should be tired of that macguffin by now) or the Gauntlet (which gets teased briefly in a post-cred in Thor: The Dark World).

[Chewy]

Could be the cocoon of Adam Warlock

[cph9fa]

A US pilot? I'd read that Quill was originally an astronaut who was... recruited?... on a space station. I was looking forward to a sweeping opening scene set in earth orbit, with a Shuttle or other spacecraft (maybe a SpaceX Dragon) docking at the ISS. Oh well...

[RaZaTrOn]

I know I'm dreaming but it'd be cool if the pilot was Carol Danvers.

Then she could join the Avengers as Ms. Marvel and that would sort of be the GOTG presence in the Avengers sequel.

[cph9fa]

Well, in the concept art for GotG Star-Lord didn't look like a "Carol"... But that's an interesting idea.

[RaZaTrOn]

Well, in the concept art for GotG Star-Lord didn't look like a "Carol"... But that's an interesting idea.

There's nothing saying that Star-Lord is the pilot. It's only speculation (logical at that).

In my mind having Gamora, Drax, Groot, Rocket and Star-Lord as the established Guardians that Carol ends up with would be cool and refreshing as it's not something that we've seen in the comics.

[Captain Marvel]

Could be the cocoon of Adam Warlock

I had a similar thought. That'd make particular sense if the villains are the Universal Church of Truth.

[Chewy]

They could be making Quill a pilot so that Carol is his buddy that he has to come back to Earth to warn/save in a later movie

[craigdbfan]

A US pilot? I'd read that Quill was originally an astronaut who was... recruited?... on a space station. I was looking forward to a sweeping opening scene set in earth orbit, with a Shuttle or other spacecraft (maybe a SpaceX Dragon) docking at the ISS. Oh well...Well it's not to late for them to go for that. I also think story wise and visually the NASA angle works a lot better.

[spideymouse]

Hopefully "futuristic" just means "spacey". time travel plots make me tired.I hope so too, but if "futuristic" actually means "from the future," could Kang possibly be brought into the discussion? I know he's maybe third or fourth on the line of favorites for the Avengers 2 threat, but this is the first I've heard of "the future" being mentioned in the context of this particular team.

[KangConquers]

I'd rather tie Carol into SWORD than have her be a pilot as per-traditional story. It makes introducing her easier.

[Chewy]

She can start off as a pilot and become a SWORD agent when SWORD actually gets created :)

[Joeyjojo72]

And keep in mind that ALL of this is subject to change. Very early still.

I actually like Kang in the comics, but I just can't stomach another "we have to save/fix/protect/change the time stream or the earth/galaxy/universe/squirrelgirl is doomed!" storyline. I suppose I could handle it if it actually makes logical sense (hint: the Terminator movies do not make logical sense). Even though its not my first choice or second choice, I'll take the infinity gems and thanos over a time travel plot.

And I'm all for Alice Eve popping out of a coccoon at some point in the 3rd act. Dont really care how or why.

[Chewy]

Yep, these sorts of things are what they use to seek out writers with pitches. But it gives you an idea of the movie they want (wanted?) to make (ie Quill and a bunch of jailbreakers keep something safe)

[KangConquers]

So...it seems like they'll be touching on Englehardt's original starlord run.

[Rock Sexton]

Can somebody explain to me how a human pilot could stand up to a cosmic baddy like Thanos?

[Crimson King]

He can't.

[misjuevos]

i really don't want to see earth at all in this movie. i want to be in space on different worlds. it would be a better reveal that one of the team is part human.

[Big Green]

Is Marvel gonna try to make the guardians like their STAR WARS? Just a question, I'm not familiar with them, but I've started trying to read the series.

[Doc Ock]

i really don't want to see earth at all in this movie. i want to be in space on different worlds. it would be a better reveal that one of the team is part human.

Agreed, GotG is a excellent and probably perfect way to explore the "spacey" regions of the Marvel Universe. It would become stale fast if every Marvel Studios movie was set on Earth.

[cherokeesam]

They could be making Quill a pilot so that Carol is his buddy that he has to come back to Earth to warn/save in a later movie

Yeah, this is a perfect opportunity to introduce Carol Danvers, even in a cameo role, as an associate of Peter Quill back on Earth. SWORD, NASA, SHIELD, whatever....just make her a co-astronaut/pilot of Peter.

i really don't want to see earth at all in this movie. i want to be in space on different worlds. it would be a better reveal that one of the team is part human.

There's no other way to introduce GOTG except on Earth, with Quill as a human who finds himself John Carter-ed into the depths of space and alien civilizations. Strongly doubt GOTG will spend more than the first third on Earth, but that's the way it went down in the comics, and that's the way it'll go down in the movies; bank on it.

[cph9fa]

Yeah, this is a perfect opportunity to introduce Carol Danvers, even in a cameo role, as an associate of Peter Quill back on Earth. SWORD, NASA, SHIELD, whatever....just make her a co-astronaut/pilot of Peter.

Yeah, there's plenty of opportunity to introduce Carol. If they were to give her a film (which would have to be in phase 3) it would almost certainly include her superpowers origin. Before that, you could easily stick her into any one of GotG, Cap 2, or Avengers 2.

There's no other way to introduce GOTG except on Earth, with Quill as a human who finds himself John Carter-ed into the depths of space and alien civilizations. Strongly doubt GOTG will spend more than the first third on Earth, but that's the way it went down in the comics, and that's the way it'll go down in the movies; bank on it.

Agreed. I obviously wouldn't want to see the movie sit there very long, but even just one or two scenes to establish and ground his character, and then show how he ended up in space, would be greatly appreciated.

I'm trying to figure out whether there's any way to also show Drax's origin on Earth at the beginning of the film (Thanos visits earth after TA?), but it seems like it would be too confusing, and better left to a later flashback, or even just left unexplained.

[TheVileOne]

Two different industry sites have the same logline, which i assume means it comes from Marvel:


http://iotg.force.com/searchprojectresults?keyword=guardians%20of%20the% 20galaxy

http://www.productionweekly.com/072811ib.pdf
CUE FARSCAPE THEME!

NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH! *CHANTING AND WAILING*

Farscape.

Not that I mind, but seriously guys that's pretty much the exact log line for the Farscape TV series. Which I'm OK with in principle since I love Farscape and that basic premise can be translated effectively for a jumping on point for this movie.

Aren't many astronauts also air force pilots anyway? Or start as air force pilots?

[Kiltman]

She can start off as a pilot and become a SWORD agent when SWORD actually gets created :)

Ha true, though I could see SWORD being introduced fairly easily in Thor: TDW via Jane Foster (her whereabouts in Avengers seems like it could easily have been SWORD related) or in Cap:TWS as another branch.

[M-2]

I would love Carol to at least have a cameo in this!! And I think the easiest way to show the connectivity of the Marvel Cinematoc Universe, to have a scene with Peter Quill, Carol Danvers and Rhodey!! After all all these films are in the same universe, I think it's about time that some supporting players appear in other films! So i say give Rhodey an extended Cameo appearance in the beginning alongside Danvers!!

[Doc Ock]

CUE FARSCAPE THEM!

NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH! *CHANTING AND WAILING*

Farscape.



:pal: I love this post and greatly approve! :D I love Farscape as well. :cool: Its initial premise can be useful for the GotG film as a jumping on point for the GA but...well honestly I dunno what else to say.

[pr0xyt0xin]

http://screenrant.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-story/

Any weight to this rumor?

"Production Weekly and The Grid both shared the following one-line description of Guardians of the Galaxy that may offer our first idea of what to expect from Guardians of the Galaxy.

About a U.S. pilot who ends up in space in the middle of a universal conflict and goes on the run with futuristic ex-cons who have something everyone wants."

[TheVileOne]

pr0xyt0xin, we've seen that from a couple different sources so far.

The script is being re-written right now so who knows. Things can change pretty radically from pre-production to principal to post.

I mean based off the material it makes sense since the only regular human in the group is Peter Quill/Star-Lord who was a pilot/astronaut in the comics. Somehow he gets lost in space and caught up with a ragtag group of aliens who the entire universe is after.

Again using the basic premise of Farscape for this material in adapting it to film makes sense. And I think that's OK because Farscape is probably the closest reference we have to something like this being done in live action. Though Farscape was a cable TV show and the fanbase is cult at best. But I think it could work hopefully on a larger scale and find an audience.

[LauraT]

Again using the basic premise of Farscape for this material in adapting it to film makes sense. And I think that's OK because Farscape is probably the closest reference we have to something like this being done in live action.

Interesting thought. Well they did create very popular characters in humanoid plant Zhaan and sort of foul mouthed anthropomorphic frog in Rygel, which is what this will be trying to do in a more high tech way. They were great at mixing the bizarre and funny with the epic and making it work.

The script is being re-written right now so who knows. Things can change pretty radically from pre-production to principal to post.


Yes between Chris McCoy and Joss Whedon rewriting/doctoring the script and the editing room who knows. Avengers was a completely different story with some different characters in early drafts. From the very little we know so far it's likely they'll want to keep a connection to Earth though.

[Chewy]

Can somebody explain to me how a human pilot could stand up to a cosmic baddy like Thanos?
Very ineffectively

[Stikmann]

I wonder if the “something” that everyone wants might be one of the Infinity Gems. Maybe the “Time” gem. It would allow them to travel back to our time so they can encounter Quill or whoever the pilot ends up being.

[Captain Marvel]

I wonder if the “something” that everyone wants might be one of the Infinity Gems. Maybe the “Time” gem. It would allow them to travel back to our time so they can encounter Quill or whoever the pilot ends up being.

They all exist in the present, so there's no need for any time travel at all in the story.

[DocHoliday]

pr0xyt0xin, we've seen that from a couple different sources so far.

The script is being re-written right now so who knows. Things can change pretty radically from pre-production to principal to post.

I mean based off the material it makes sense since the only regular human in the group is Peter Quill/Star-Lord who was a pilot/astronaut in the comics. Somehow he gets lost in space and caught up with a ragtag group of aliens who the entire universe is after.

Again using the basic premise of Farscape for this material in adapting it to film makes sense. And I think that's OK because Farscape is probably the closest reference we have to something like this being done in live action. Though Farscape was a cable TV show and the fanbase is cult at best. But I think it could work hopefully on a larger scale and find an audience.


"Kill them John. Then we can have pizza and margarita shooters!" Seriously this is a good opportunity forall you folks to watch Farscape on Netflix Instant. Also Browder was in his late 30's when cast as Crichton (I believe) which is more fuel for an older Star-Lord.

[metaphysician]

Very ineffectively

I don't know, his fight against Thanos with Nova was pretty epic. It also shows how a "normal human" fights against Thanos- by *cheating epically*. Sure, he had help, and sure, he somehow got his hands on a fragment of a cosmic cube ( IIRC ), and sure, it was just a delaying action to keep Thanos inside a collapsing universe. . . but a kill's a kill.

[Captain Marvel]

Well, that assumes Thanos is even dead. Were they not in a collapsing universe then Thanos would've come out of that fight just fine. And even so, both he and Nova died in the process, so at best that's a draw.

[Doc Ock]

"Kill them John. Then we can have pizza and margarita shooters!" Seriously this is a good opportunity forall you folks to watch Farscape on Netflix Instant. Also Browder was in his late 30's when cast as Crichton (I believe) which is more fuel for an older Star-Lord.

Ben Browder as Star-Lord? Yes please! :D

[Captain Marvel]

Sadly Browder's turning 50 this year (I can't believe he's that old :(). But yeah, Browder would've made for an awesome Star-Lord.

[misjuevos]

Can somebody explain to me how a human pilot could stand up to a cosmic baddy like Thanos?
if it is peter quill who is the pilot then just know that he is only half human and half spartoi, if that makes a difference.

[Chewy]

It does not. :oldrazz:

[metaphysician]

Well, that assumes Thanos is even dead. Were they not in a collapsing universe then Thanos would've come out of that fight just fine. And even so, both he and Nova died in the process, so at best that's a draw.

Dying while killing Thanos is still a victory. :p And to the best of my knowledge, while Thanos is back, he did actually die in the event.

[Crimson King]

James Gunn to Direct Guardians of the Galaxy? (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57728)

Hmm. That choice is...different. Not sure how I feel about it yet.

[Suzanne78]

James Gunn to Direct Guardians of the Galaxy? (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57728)

Hmm. That choice is...different. Not sure how I feel about it yet.

I'm in. This is a far bigger project than what Gunn's had in the past, but the guy has major talent. He just needs to find an audience, and Marvel's going to practically hand him that on a silver platter.

[Crimson King]

Truth. I have yet to see Slither, so maybe that'll ease my concerns. DOTD was awesome, though.

Oh, and if he can get Nathan Fillion as Star-Lord, I will love him forever.

[Silvermoth]

James Gunn is pretty much the sort of director I was expecting.

Not well known.

Known for a few small films which are more entertaining than good.

Comedy chops

Favreau-esque.

[Son of Coul]

The only movie I've seen of his was Super and I thought it was pretty great and vastly underrated so I vote yes :up:

[Joeyjojo72]

Great choice. This tells me that Joss will have a highly collaborative roll in this movie. Gunn is the real deal.

Some folks are speculating that the pilot is not Quill but either Carol Danvers or Vance Astro. Not sure how I feel about these characters being in a GotG movie. The idea of Major Victory using Cap's shield is a non-starter, regardless of the comics.

[The Ironstar]

So heres a bit of speculation. After/during an action-packed opening sequence, the film will feature debriefing to introduce the team members.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3792/guardianspi4.jpg

Not that this pic shows many confirmed characters, just an example. I think that'd be an enjoyable nod to the comics.

THIS would be so much better though :csad: :waa:

J5EJnJx_TpA

[xeno000]

THIS would be so much better though :csad: :waa:

J5EJnJx_TpA

Thanks so much for posting that video! That is my all-time favorite comic book. It was once the jewel of my collection -- over and above full runs of Silver Surfer and Steranko's SHIELD and FF#48-50 -- before I lost everything to a flooded apartment. Marvel has yet to add that issue to its digital collection for some reason. The video isn't the same as having the book in my hands, but at least I can read and enjoy it again.


It's a shame that Captain Marvel (the real one) and Adam Warlock aren't going to appear in the MCU's version of the Thanos saga. Starlin's original vision is still a classic, with an epic scope and many layers of meaning. It would be a joy to see such a complex story play out on screen. Mar-Vell and Warlock have always been integral to the story and it feels wrong to leave them out of it.

[Chewy]

Y'know, everyone keeps saying Fillion as Star-Lord but I think Fillion "playing" Rocket Raccoon would be a lot more fun. He could nail the voice, and it would be a great send-up of the incessant Fillion fan-casting over the last decade: the character he does end up playing is the talking raccoon

[Joeyjojo72]

If we're gonna mine Firefly for talent, I think Tudyk could create a unique and compelling voice for Rocket. Rather than hiring a famous voice, why not go with something completely new?

[The Ironstar]

Thanks so much for posting that video! That is my all-time favorite comic book. It was once the jewel of my collection -- over and above full runs of Silver Surfer and Steranko's SHIELD and FF#48-50 -- before I lost everything to a flooded apartment. Marvel has yet to add that issue to its digital collection for some reason. The video isn't the same as having the book in my hands, but at least I can read and enjoy it again.


It's a shame that Captain Marvel (the real one) and Adam Warlock aren't going to appear in the MCU's version of the Thanos saga. Starlin's original vision is still a classic, with an epic scope and many layers of meaning. It would be a joy to see such a complex story play out on screen. Mar-Vell and Warlock have always been integral to the story and it feels wrong to leave them out of it.

I wonder if the GotG makes $ 150-250 D,would it be because of 'ol school people like me enjoy the Jim Starlin run :hmm?

[Suzanne78]

Tudyk did some marvelous work in Whedon's Dollhouse, not to mention the various comedic roles he's played in Transformers, 28 Days, and Tucker and Dale vs. Evil. Different characters, very different voices. He's way more versatile than I thought. I'd really love to see him voice Rocket Raccoon, even though he's one of my top choices for Hank Pym.

[HighFivingMF]

I was indifferent to this before. But ya got me, Marvel. I'm in.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Tudyk did some marvelous work in Whedon's Dollhouse, not to mention the various comedic roles he's played in Transformers, 28 Days, and Tucker and Dale vs. Evil. Different characters, very different voices. He's way more versatile than I thought. I'd really love to see him voice Rocket Raccoon, even though he's one of my top choices for Hank Pym.

Don't forget Dodgeball.

[T"Challa]

Tudyk was hilarious in Tucker and Dale vs Evil. I'm sad that flick didnt get a wide release. Its funny as ****

[Spider-Vader]

I wonder if the “something” that everyone wants might be one of the Infinity Gems. Maybe the “Time” gem. It would allow them to travel back to our time so they can encounter Quill or whoever the pilot ends up being.

I don't think we'll be seeing time travel. The Guardians that are in the movie, are all in the present.

[Jake Cassidy]

Tudyk was hilarious in Tucker and Dale vs Evil. I'm sad that flick didnt get a wide release. Its funny as ****

Yeah. I can't remember a movie where I've laughed so hard.

[TheVileOne]

As long as its not someone like Justin Timberlake I think I can deal with it.

Or Mark Wahlberg.

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Tudyk was hilarious in Tucker and Dale vs Evil. I'm sad that flick didnt get a wide release. Its funny as ****

Ya that film is an instant classic I'm glad it's on netflix

[Crimson King]

The misspelling of this thread name is giving me twitches.

[cherokeesam]

"Specluaton" has a nice alien ring to it. Maybe Specluaton will be a planet the Guardians visit.

[Danalys]

as long as they don't visit speculum.

[Joeyjojo72]

"Please disrobe and step into the Speculaton..."

[craigdbfan]

Fiexde.

[MarvelKnight]

lol

[Crimson King]

Ah, peace at last. Thanks, craigdb.

[Chewy]

Thnak you criag, finaly somone steeped up to the pilate and fixxed it :up:

[JB-the-Hunter]

lolz i c wut u did der chewy

[KangConquers]

http://t.qkme.me/2i9z.jpg

[The Ironstar]

Enjoy mes amis:

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[The Ironstar]

Ha! If anything,should it be Jim starlin endorsing it? :/

Guardians of the Galaxy comic book writers Dan Abnett (http://www.digitalspy.com/celebrities/dan-abnett/) and Andy Lanning have endorsed Marvel Studios (http://www.digitalspy.com/companies/marvel-studios/)' upcoming movie adaptation of the title.

The duo, who are credited with moulding the modern incarnation of the team, said that they were pleasantly surprised that the studio chose to develop the concept for cinema.


http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a401447/guardians-of-the-galaxy-writers-endorse-movie.html
:cmad: :argh:

[JB-the-Hunter]

MERCH!!!!!!

http://www.toymania.com/newspics/cc31/guardians/01_GroupPromo.jpg

http://www.toymania.com/newspics/cc31/guardians/02_StarlordDraxPromo.jpg

http://www.toymania.com/newspics/cc31/guardians/03_MantisRocketPromo.jpg

http://www.toymania.com/newspics/cc31/guardians/04_WarlockGamoraPromo.jpg

http://www.toymania.com/newspics/cc31/guardians/05_GroupShow.jpg

[Guhndoi]

If anyone wants this in high quality.

Guardians of the Galaxy concept art.

http://www.mediafire.com/conv/23b8a9e054a55423bf1189ef4cd0529d3375f74b4966191b11 dc0cf4474fcc214g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?cc192cvn8pqzcaq)

10000 x 4354 - 16mb

[Danalys]

if only i had an 8k tv. 16mb..... damn.

[KangConquers]

Ha! If anything,should it be Jim starlin endorsing it? :/




http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a401447/guardians-of-the-galaxy-writers-endorse-movie.html
:cmad: :argh:

Though Starlin helped form the cosmic universe as we know it (it'd be hard to say created, as so many chefs have been in that kitchen) Abbnett and Lanning created the modern guardian concept, and redefined the characters, kind of how Claremont redefined X-Men, Brubaker redefined Cap, and Miller redefined Daredevil.

Right now, there are only two Starlin created characters in this film, and one is so heavily redefined, he's almost not the same character (Drax.)

[marvel_freshman]

Even though it's somewhat inevitable, I believe Feige may have confirmed Thanos in GOTG while promoting The Avengers in Japan. Only thing is, all the online translations of the articles have been rough.

In 2 separate interviews, GOTG is mentioned. Anyone know what he's saying:
http://blog.movie.nifty.com/herojungle/2012/08/post-e5b6.html

http://nmn.nifty.com/cs/catalog/nmn_topics/catalog_mv201208post-e7fb_1.htm

[cherokeesam]

^ All I got from my Bing translator was: "HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO DESTRUCTION. YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME"

[JB-the-Hunter]

Even though it's somewhat inevitable, I believe Feige may have confirmed Thanos in GOTG while promoting The Avengers in Japan. Only thing is, all the online translations of the articles have been rough.

In 2 separate interviews, GOTG is mentioned. Anyone know what he's saying:
http://blog.movie.nifty.com/herojungle/2012/08/post-e5b6.html

http://nmn.nifty.com/cs/catalog/nmn_topics/catalog_mv201208post-e7fb_1.htm
Yep, looks like he did

btw what's with your avatar? or lack thereof?

[misjuevos]

marvel freshman has an explanation on his page over at cbm

Akin to Joss Whedon teasing Marvel's The Avengers untitled sequel while promoting the original box office behemoth in Japan, a few weeks ago, Marvel Studios' president of production made an effort to tease the 2014 movie coming before The Avengers reassemble; Guardians of the Galaxy. In yet another rough translation, via Japanese blog Nifty, Kevin Feige seemingly explains why the Guardians were greenlit, among other things.

During the Q&A session published only three days ago, Kevin Feige revealed the reason he and the studio are moving forward with Guardians of the Galaxy is because he “wanted to do something with it space.” He continues, “I've got a story I wanted to tell the world [that is] not directly related with the characters of "The Avengers," [until?] a little later.” While the Guardians & The Avengers aren't exactly “related,” it's strongly believed the former movie will lead directly into the latter's upcoming sequel in 2015; hence “a little later.”

Moving along, that response prompted the interviewer to bring up the otherworldly villain, Thanos, who made his live-action debut during Marvel's The Avengers mid-credits stinger. After being asked flat out would the Mad Titan appear in Guardians of the Galaxy, Feige apparently grins before saying, “I'm out (laughs) of course, because there is meaning [to the credits stinger].” Considering the so-far confirmed Guardians roster includes characters linked to Thanos, his inclusion is almost inevitable. However, today it's seemingly been confirmed.

from marvelfreshman.

[JB-the-Hunter]

It only makes sense, not using Thanos in GotG is like not using Loki in Thor 2.

[Darthphere]

Eh, I can see Thor 2 happening without Loki honestly. It won't but it could.

[JB-the-Hunter]

Really? I'd say it's impossible after everything he did and the fact that he's still alive.

"So you let him take it and the war criminal, Loki, who should be answering for his crimes?”
“Oh, I think he will be.”

[Kane52630]

http://i.minus.com/ibkIqlo17HqzH2.gif

[Doc Ock]

Thats really purty! It makes me more excited! Space adventures at last!

[ThePowerCosmic]

http://i.minus.com/ibkIqlo17HqzH2.gif

I can imagine the movie opening like this.

[Golgo-13]

This movie has the potential of being one of the best, most daring Marvel movies to date...or an utter catastrophe.

[Doc Ock]

This movie has the potential of being one of the best, most daring Marvel movies to date...or an utter catastrophe.

Indeed, it may very well been a huge risk in the ways The Avengers was a huge risk.

[JB-the-Hunter]

We can trust Marvel, they seem to have a firm grip on things.

[ThePowerCosmic]

Lol... firm grip on things. I have a dirty mind.

[JB-the-Hunter]

http://i.minus.com/ibkIqlo17HqzH2.gif

Ooooooh, shiny!

[psylockolussus]

http://i.minus.com/ibkIqlo17HqzH2.gif

Did you make this?

It looks so official! :woot:

[Golgo-13]

Indeed, it may very well been a huge risk in the ways The Avengers was a huge risk.

The Avengers was made up of popular heroes thought. GOTG is made up of characters very few ppl know about. This risk is bigger. They better market the hell out of this.

[metaphysician]

The Avengers was made up of popular heroes thought. GOTG is made up of characters very few ppl know about. This risk is bigger. They better market the hell out of this.

Only popular in the sense that prior movies made them so, though. GotG certainly is the bigger risk, but it also has in its column "From the people who brought you Avengers", so. . .

[Darthphere]

Plus the obvious tie to the first Avengers movie and the sequel.

[Golgo-13]

Only popular in the sense that prior movies made them so, though. GotG certainly is the bigger risk, but it also has in its column "From the people who brought you Avengers", so. . .

Prior movies made the likes of Hulk popular..?:huh:

[Chewy]

Prior movies made all of the characters not named Hulk popular, and a prior TV show made Hulk popular.

Better?

[KangConquers]

Prior movies made all of the characters not named Hulk popular, and a prior TV show made Hulk popular.

Better?

Captain America and Hulk were famous prior to the movies, and Iron Man and Thor were somewhat well known. All had been a part of Marvel's Merchandising efforts, and had appeared in animation etc.

I've been a comic book fan for 25 years, and didn't even know who Peter Quill was until 2008. I know many comic book fans who heard about this movie and went "Who?"

I kind of like how Spiderboy1111 described them. They're basically a Marvel indie rock band. Few people know them, but those who do love them.

[Chewy]

People might have known who Cap and Thor and Iron Man were, but they wouldn't have been able to tell you anything about them. Maybe that Cap wears a flag costume, and that Thor comes from Norse mythology, but that's about it.

People will see that it's an Avengers 2 tie-in and it should be fine. Especially when the smiling purple guy shows up in the trailer

[metaphysician]

I repeat my mantra: we are not the GA. What is "common knowledge" to *anyone on this board* is irrelevant for measuring who the GA knows or cares about. And prior to the recent movies? Nobody in the GA cared about Captain America, or Iron Man, or Thor. And Hulk was this guy they remembered for TV years ago, who kept getting mediocre movies.

[cherokeesam]

I repeat my mantra: we are not the GA. What is "common knowledge" to *anyone on this board* is irrelevant for measuring who the GA knows or cares about. And prior to the recent movies? Nobody in the GA cared about Captain America, or Iron Man, or Thor. And Hulk was this guy they remembered for TV years ago, who kept getting mediocre movies.

Agreed, and it means that "prior knowledge" is no longer a selling point for ANY of the rest of Marvel Studios product. As far as they and we are concerned, you might as well label every MS character from here on out an "unknown" to the GA, including Ant-Man, GOTG, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Heroes for Hire, Ms. Marvel, and any of the others actively discussed on the SHH boards.

Which is a good thing. It means every character is new to audiences, so anything is possible with them. There's not going to be any "who the **** is that?" or "that's not the way *I* remember that character" from audiences. They'll just be glad to try something new.

[Danalys]

nobodies ever liked anything new ever. ;)

[KangConquers]

I think it will do fine. I just don't think it's a fair comparison to say "No one knew who Captain America was before his movie" when the character has sold over 200 Million comics worldwide vs. The Guardians of the Galaxy who maybe sold 50k an issue, for 25 issues.

For all the complaining about Fox/ Sony, I feel like we're really lucky that Marvel doesn't have Spider-Man or X-Men; if they did, we wouldn't get to experience the entirety of the Marvel Universe on film, to the degree we'll get to in the next 10 years.

[Chewy]

If they had X-Men we'd have gotten a movie with Brotherhood Scarlet Witch by now, and we'd all be excited about her showing up in Avengers 2 :argh:

But oh well, nothing in life is perfect

[KangConquers]

If they had X-Men we'd have gotten a movie with Brotherhood Scarlet Witch by now, and we'd all be excited about her showing up in Avengers 2 :argh:

But oh well, nothing in life is perfect

You need to change your avatar so I can stop peeing my pants...

[Chewy]

http://i38.tinypic.com/20peh6q.gif

[Kane52630]

You need to change your avatar so I can stop peeing my pants...

http://i.imgur.com/cq4pX.gif

[KangConquers]

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2010/s320x240.jpg

[Smashlilman]

I think it will do fine. I just don't think it's a fair comparison to say "No one knew who Captain America was before his movie" when the character has sold over 200 Million comics worldwide vs. The Guardians of the Galaxy who maybe sold 50k an issue, for 25 issues.

For all the complaining about Fox/ Sony, I feel like we're really lucky that Marvel doesn't have Spider-Man or X-Men; if they did, we wouldn't get to experience the entirety of the Marvel Universe on film, to the degree we'll get to in the next 10 years.

The GA knew who Captain America was they just didn't know a lot about him other than he carries around a shield.

[KangConquers]

The GA knew who Captain America was they just didn't know a lot about him other than he carries around a shield.

But my point is the average COMIC BOOK READER knows less about the Guardians of the Galaxy than the average GA member knew about Captain America, and about as much as they knew about Iron Man and Thor.

There's probably a bigger discrepancy between Cap's and GOTG pre film, than there was Cap and Spidey pre-film.

[Alexei Belyakov]

I really hope Gunn directs this. He was one of my initial choices.

[TacomaTruck90]

Do you guys expect to see the Guardians together already at the beginning of the movie, or will they have to, ahem, assemble?

Idk if they assemble it's going feel like Avengers in space, I wouldn't mind them already being a team.