"You ready for another Bout?"- The Thor/Chris Hemsworth Thread [Archive]

herolee10

08-07-2012, 10:29 PM

With all the threads that we have in this forum, I'm surprised that we didn't have one yet dedicated to our favorite Asgardian/God of Thunder.

So folks, with already TWO STRAIGHT YEARS of Thor Goodness having appeared on the Big Screen (now going into THREE STRAIGHT YEARS/A First for a Main Marvel Hero), what are you guys looking forward to the most regarding the Asgardian Prince in his next big journey?

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herolee10

08-07-2012, 10:30 PM

Damn it to hell;lol...Could a MOD please modify the title to say "Ready" instead of "Read"?lol

BigThor

08-07-2012, 11:09 PM

I'd like to see more emphasis on his status as "The God of Thunder" as well as his relationship with Odin and his fame throughout the realms.

herolee10

08-07-2012, 11:30 PM

I'd like to see more emphasis on his status as "The God of Thunder" as well as his relationship with Odin and his fame throughout the realms.

Whatever fame he already had prior to the events of "The Avengers" may have been increased if word traveled around about his his heroics on the planet as well.

It's interesting to note on how Thor's journey for a sequel wouldn't deal with the traditional "I want to have a normal life" scenario like most other sequels tend to dive into for a hero's film, so I'm curious as to what his dilemma will be in this film.

I'd also like to see the weight of his title of being Odin's son and Crown Prince of Asgard shown to its fullest as well.

BigThor

08-07-2012, 11:57 PM

I'm also kind of disappointed that we haven't seen any lightning charged hammer throws yet either.

herolee10

08-08-2012, 12:08 AM

I'm also kind of disappointed that we haven't seen any lightning charged hammer throws yet either.

That along with:

1. Feats of GREAT Strength. I mean it's one thing to see him apply it to his punches and hammer throws, but kind of another to see him use his bare hands to lift something very huge.

2. More wind Based attacks.

3. Better shot flying sequences; I feel like Marvel hasn't taken full advantage of the fact that Thor can fly without needing to use a vehicle or suit of armor.

BigThor

08-08-2012, 12:15 AM

That along with:

1. Feats of GREAT Strength. I mean it's one thing to see him apply it to his punches and hammer throws, but kind of another to see him use his bare hands to lift something very huge.

2. More wind Based attacks.

3. Better shot flying sequences; I feel like Marvel hasn't taken full advantage of the fact that Thor can fly without needing to use a vehicle or suit of armor.

Definately, crushing IM's armor and catching Hulk's punch was cool but I want to see him do some bonafied "heavy lifting".

Yeah Thor's only used one wind based attack and that was in THOR, I also agree that he's been getting the short stick when it comes to flying scenes.

herolee10

08-08-2012, 01:06 AM

Definately, crushing IM's armor and catching Hulk's punch was cool but I want to see him do some bonafied "heavy lifting".

Yeah Thor's only used one wind based attack and that was in THOR, I also agree that he's been getting the short stick when it comes to flying scenes.

If it wasn't for "The Avengers", I wouldn't have known on how durable an Asgardian could be since the first film never had the chance to show on how someone like Loki could take bullet fire without any problems or how Thor could take a full blast from Iron Man's lasers to his face and be soaked in fire and still be alright.

I still remember on how people thought that Thor got ALL OF HIS POWERS from the hammer (strength and durability included).lol

I hope before Thor's solo franchise is done, we'll also get a chance to see Thor fight side by side with his father; that would be badass.

BigThor

08-08-2012, 01:19 AM

If it wasn't for "The Avengers", I wouldn't have known on how durable an Asgardian could be since the first film never had the chance to show on how someone like Loki could take bullet fire without any problems or how Thor could take a full blast from Iron Man's lasers to his face and be soaked in fire and still be alright.

I still remember on how people thought that Thor got ALL OF HIS POWERS from the hammer (strength and durability included).lol

I still would've liked to see Thor himself shrug off bullets in TA, since he won't have a chance to do that in his solo film.

Yeah I know people who STILL think all of Thor's powers come from his hammer, including my friends and my older brother.

I hope before Thor's solo franchise is done, we'll also get a chance to see Thor fight side by side with his father; that would be badass.

Yeah that would be awesome, although I would like to see Odin kick ass on his own at some point as well.

herolee10

08-08-2012, 01:32 AM

I'm also hoping that Malekith will be written in a way that really takes Thor to his limits as a character since up until now, we've only seen Thor really deal with his brother, and there's always limitations as to how far Thor will go to handle the guy. With a new major threat that isn't tied to Thor so personally, it'd be great to see on how Thor reacts to that said villain.

BigThor

08-08-2012, 03:11 AM

herolee10

08-08-2012, 03:40 AM

What do you mean by taking Thor to his limits?

I guess in the way that Joker took Batman to his limits as a hero in TDK. Like....Malekith would challenge on what Thor stood for, shake him up to his core.....especially since Malekith, as far as we know, isn't a physical match for Thor entirely.

BigThor

08-08-2012, 05:16 AM

Oh okay I see, but I don't think Thor: The Dark World is going to be very psycological.

BoredGuy

08-08-2012, 10:20 AM

It would be kinda cool if they mixed some elements of the Serpent from Fear Itself into Malekith. (even tho I hated FI)
Like maybe through some shady dealings, Odin screwed over Malekith to make Asgard the premier realm of the nine worlds instead of Svartleheim (sp?)
This shakes Thor's confidence in Odin as well as his Asgardian pride, so he goes back to Earth to be with Jane, at which point Odin is killed and Asgard gets destroyed, and Thor has to go back to put the pieces back together and ascend to the Throne.

I dunno, I'm not as good with making up plot points as some of y'all
But something like that could add some personal weight and tragedy to the story..

Vartha

08-11-2012, 11:13 AM

Damn it to hell;lol...Could a MOD please modify the title to say "Ready" instead of "Read"?lollol was going to pm you about that but ok. (sorry been a tad busy lol)

herolee10

08-19-2012, 02:54 AM

lol was going to pm you about that but ok. (sorry been a tad busy lol)

haha; np and Thanks a million!:yay:

BigThor

08-20-2012, 01:27 AM

So who all wants to see Thor's durability showcased even more?

I'm talking being slammed into craters, walking through fire unharmed, and being knocked or blasted through solid rock.

herolee10

08-20-2012, 03:02 AM

So who all wants to see Thor's durability showcased even more?

I'm talking being slammed into craters, walking through fire unharmed, and being knocked or blasted through solid rock.

I'm talking about having a blade or spear thrown into his face and him taking it head on.lol

Heck, I didn't like on how the fact that Thor had run to take cover from the bullets from the jet shooting at the Hulk made people think that Thor couldn't take being shot by a plane while the Hulk could.

Also, I want Thor's Elder God Ancestry Explored, let alone confirmed...

metaphysician

08-20-2012, 09:53 AM

herolee10

08-20-2012, 05:13 PM

Why do you assume he has elder god ancestry?

Because his mother..his birth mother in the comics is a elder god, thus i'd hope that this would be something that'd be established as well in the MCU. And based on what we saw in a deleted scene between Odin and Frigga, where Frigga was arguing with Odin about his decision to banish Thor to Earth powerless, one thing that caught my attention was how Frigga yelled out the words "He's your son"..and not "He's OUR Son".

Now, if my theory is true, i would think that this deleted dialogue scene somewhat gives the possibility that Marvel Studios does have Thor's elder god ancestry in mind to potentially use

BigThor

08-20-2012, 10:35 PM

I'm talking about having a blade or spear thrown into his face and him taking it head on.lol

Heck, I didn't like on how the fact that Thor had run to take cover from the bullets from the jet shooting at the Hulk made people think that Thor couldn't take being shot by a plane while the Hulk could.

Also, I want Thor's Elder God Ancestry Explored, let alone confirmed...

Yeah I would like to see Thor shrugging off Dark Elve weapons with their spears breaking when they hit his skin.

I didn't like Thor taking cover either, I know it makes sense since he's a warrior but some people think he can be geniunely harmed by bullets.

metaphysician

08-20-2012, 10:54 PM

Because his mother..his birth mother in the comics is a elder god, thus i'd hope that this would be something that'd be established as well in the MCU. And based on what we saw in a deleted scene between Odin and Frigga, where Frigga was arguing with Odin about his decision to banish Thor to Earth powerless, one thing that caught my attention was how Frigga yelled out the words "He's your son"..and not "He's OUR Son".

Now, if my theory is true, i would think that this deleted dialogue scene somewhat gives the possibility that Marvel Studios does have Thor's elder god ancestry in mind to potentially use

The key word there is "in the comics." Which is to say, you have no evidence that he's anything other than Asgardian in the movie. None. And unless you can come up with a good explanation for why they would even want to add such a complication, that is almost entirely irrelevant to the likely plots they would use in future movies. . .

herolee10

08-21-2012, 06:02 AM

The key word there is "in the comics." Which is to say, you have no evidence that he's anything other than Asgardian in the movie. None. And unless you can come up with a good explanation for why they would even want to add such a complication, that is almost entirely irrelevant to the likely plots they would use in future movies. . .

Hence why I said that I hope it's confirmed or explored...since that part is still up for debate until said otherwise, and from what I've read about it, there's a lot of stories that they could do, along with adding new characters when introducing Thor's elder god ancestry.

Plus, it's stated that Thor being the son of a Earth Based Deity is one of the reasons why he's always had a special fondness for earth as well.

metaphysician

08-21-2012, 10:33 AM

MarvelKnight

08-21-2012, 12:40 PM

herolee10

08-21-2012, 06:53 PM

The thing is, those new characters would be completely irrelevant to the actual plot, 90% guaranteed. So you'd be cluttering up the story introducing plot elements that detract from giving attention to the actual focus of the story.

Anyway, there actually is an additional element of evidence against: the whole "he's adopted?" line in Avengers, which would make little sense if Thor himself were a bastard child. Nevermind the whole "at no point is Odin portrayed as a cheating bastard" problem.

He could have hooked up with Gaea, dumped her and found Frigga later lol. Therefore he still wouldn't be a cheating bastard :yay: just sayin.

Well by all accounts, we don't know what the plot is exactly for "Dark World" other than Thor journeying through the nine realms, Loki facing the consequences of his actions on Earth, Thor getting closer to his father and to Jane....so you never know if they'll fit in the elder god Ancestry somewhere in the mix.

And plus, the character of "The Other", the one that Loki made his deal with who also promised that Thanos would severely punish Loki if he had failed..was based off of a elder God character in the MCU as well. If anything, they'd just have to introduce Thor's real mother, it would/could give something for Thor to further understand on what Loki may have felt like....and as far as I understand, Odin hooked up with Thor's real mother before marrying Frigga, and Frigga became Odin's wife, already knowing that Thor and Loki weren't her children. In the comics, her only real child with Odin as far as I know of is Balder

Joeyjojo72

08-21-2012, 07:31 PM

Finally watched TCITW. Given the nature of the role, he was good. Looking forward to him adding some new aspects to the Thor character.

Godzilla2000

08-23-2012, 10:39 AM

You know, I think we have yet to see a fully enraged Thor meting out just punishment on a totally remorseless villain. Thor in full rage mode would be a very scary yet awesome thing to see indeed.

BigThor

08-23-2012, 04:48 PM

You know, I think we have yet to see a fully enraged Thor meting out just punishment on a totally remorseless villain. Thor in full rage mode would be a very scary yet awesome thing to see indeed.

**** yeah Godzilla2000, I think we'll see a scene like that in TTDW since Kurse has been confirmed as one of the villains.

Godzilla2000

08-23-2012, 06:34 PM

**** yeah Godzilla2000, I think we'll see a scene like that in TTDW since Kurse has been confirmed as one of the villains.

Would that include lightning shooting from his eyes and Thor looking all badass with Mjolnir arcing with electricity? That would be an awesome sight to see in live action for sure. I hope we see the breadth of Thor's powers in this movie. What with all that universal malevolence I'm sure it will push him to his limit and over the edge. A wrathful Thor might just give even Loki a pause (And wouldn't that be a delight to see the face of a shocked, terrified Loki watching on as his brother in rage mode is owning Kurse and having second thoughts about the whole brotherly jealousy thing.) because in the MCU I don't think Thor will have been as angry before as he will be in Thor 2.

Lady_Sif

08-24-2012, 03:00 PM

My problems with some of the writing from the comic book (not gonna name any fractions of names ;) ) was that sometimes Thor was written like he is a dull warrior dude walking around and saying totally stupid lines. I don't like the some prejuctice him to be like that too. Sure, he is the warrior, but he is also supposed to be clever and wise in some things, since he is a few thousand years old already. As long as they won't go the smashing-things-and-saying-dull-lines thing in the movie, I am totally fine. I want him to be smart. Not like Tony, not tech-smart, but wise in acting. Ok, he was the rebeling brat in the first movie who had to be send to bootcamp earth, but that was his hot temper. I just hope they won't pic up the worst things from the comics so that people might think he is another brainless action hero. That's not how I personally see the character...

As for that adopted line in Avengers. I kinda felt that it was a bit out of character. Since Thor would say something like "he will be punished for his evil doings" or whatever, rather than pulling himself out of the family relationship with Loki. It's like saying, yeah he is his brother in good times, but if Loki kills just a few people he is only adopted. Kinda weird.

BoredGuy

08-24-2012, 03:28 PM

well, that line was just a joke.
If he didn't still feel Loki was family, he wouldn't have tried to reason with him at the end.

And don't be bashful about naming names, Fraction writes a horrible, brutish, hot-headed Thor. Basically, Fraction's concept of the character is "The Ultimate Jock frat-boy, with just a slight hint of nobility" It worked in Ages of Thunder, but only because those tales were set in different ragnarok cycles.

jaqua99

08-24-2012, 05:02 PM

Would that include lightning shooting from his eyes and Thor looking all badass with Mjolnir arcing with electricity? That would be an awesome sight to see in live action for sure. I hope we see the breadth of Thor's powers in this movie. What with all that universal malevolence I'm sure it will push him to his limit and over the edge. A wrathful Thor might just give even Loki a pause (And wouldn't that be a delight to see the face of a shocked, terrified Loki watching on as his brother in rage mode is owning Kurse and having second thoughts about the whole brotherly jealousy thing.) because in the MCU I don't think Thor will have been as angry before as he will be in Thor 2.

Seriously. I want him to cut loose.

And I want a have at thee

Godzilla2000

08-24-2012, 07:45 PM

Seriously. I want him to cut loose.

And I want a have at thee

Oh yes an unrestrained, Thor overcome by Warrior's rage would be completely awesome to see.

herolee10

08-25-2012, 02:28 AM

Seriously. I want him to cut loose.

And I want a have at thee

Oh yes an unrestrained, Thor overcome by Warrior's rage would be completely awesome to see.

Indeed; though I'd like to see a scenario where he finds it within himself to stop his actions before he does something that he'll ultimately regret.

For example, let's say he's going into warrior madness when going up against a whole army of Dark Elves alone, and just as he's wiping them all out, he turns around to give the next blow only to stop as the person that he would have hit would have either been one of his comrades, or even a defenseless child Elf.

I'd like to see Thor develop that sense of control over his warrior madness, which is something that I think we saw a part of in his fight with the frost giants and how he somewhat neglected the safety of his friends.

Nevertheless...Thor should be allowed to cut loose, especially since neither Kurse or Malekeith have a personal background with him like Loki had, so Thor has no excuse for holding back against them.

Also, I kind of like on how Thor has been built up as this hero in the MCU who everyone knows that when things really get to chaotic on Earth for everyone else to handle that they can depend on Thor to come and help even the odds because by all accounts, Thor is like a trump card for the Avengers.

BigThor

08-25-2012, 04:08 AM

Would that include lightning shooting from his eyes and Thor looking all badass with Mjolnir arcing with electricity? That would be an awesome sight to see in live action for sure. I hope we see the breadth of Thor's powers in this movie. What with all that universal malevolence I'm sure it will push him to his limit and over the edge. A wrathful Thor might just give even Loki a pause (And wouldn't that be a delight to see the face of a shocked, terrified Loki watching on as his brother in rage mode is owning Kurse and having second thoughts about the whole brotherly jealousy thing.) because in the MCU I don't think Thor will have been as angry before as he will be in Thor 2.

I've been wanting to see a live action scene like that ever since I saw Thor say "where. is. Ultron" in A:EMH.

Lightining surging from Thor's eyes lets you know that HE is the God of Thunder with OR without Mjolnir.

TtxJ2nKQWtQ

jaqua99

08-26-2012, 07:35 PM

Indeed; though I'd like to see a scenario where he finds it within himself to stop his actions before he does something that he'll ultimately regret.

For example, let's say he's going into warrior madness when going up against a whole army of Dark Elves alone, and just as he's wiping them all out, he turns around to give the next blow only to stop as the person that he would have hit would have either been one of his comrades, or even a defenseless child Elf.

I'd like to see Thor develop that sense of control over his warrior madness, which is something that I think we saw a part of in his fight with the frost giants and how he somewhat neglected the safety of his friends.

Nevertheless...Thor should be allowed to cut loose, especially since neither Kurse or Malekeith have a personal background with him like Loki had, so Thor has no excuse for holding back against them.

Also, I kind of like on how Thor has been built up as this hero in the MCU who everyone knows that when things really get to chaotic on Earth for everyone else to handle that they can depend on Thor to come and help even the odds because by all accounts, Thor is like a trump card for the Avengers.

Really? I got the sense that they made Hulk that character, and I don't think that was the right move -_-

I've been wanting to see a live action scene like that ever since I saw Thor say "where. is. Ultron" in A:EMH.

Lightining surging from Thor's eyes lets you know that HE is the God of Thunder with OR without Mjolnir.

TtxJ2nKQWtQ

YES

herolee10

08-26-2012, 07:41 PM

Really? I got the sense that they made Hulk that character, and I don't think that was the right move -_-

YES

I would say that both Hulk and Thor are obviously the big guns of the group, and that Thor is like the trump card while Hulk is like the wild one.lol

Plus, I always like the two scenes in "The Avengers" where we heard Fury saying on how even though they needed Thor's help that they couldn't reach him since he was world's away or how Widow had Fury bring Thor into Banner's lab when going there after hearing that Loki wanted to use the Hulk's rampage for his benefit...in a way, it definitely showed on how they were fully aware of what Thor brings to the table.

ThePowerCosmic

08-26-2012, 07:50 PM

I would say that both Hulk and Thor are obviously the big guns of the group, and that Thor is like the trump card while Hulk is like the wild one.lol

Plus, I always like the two scenes in "The Avengers" where we heard Fury saying on how even though they needed Thor's help that they couldn't reach him since he was world's away or how Widow had Fury bring Thor into Banner's lab when going there after hearing that Loki wanted to use the Hulk's rampage for his benefit...in a way, it definitely showed on how they were fully aware of what Thor brings to the table.

Oh yeah! Loved when Fury said that Thor was "worlds away". Just the sound of it was epic. The guy was literally worlds away, lol.

Quasimod0

08-26-2012, 11:49 PM

I've been wanting to see a live action scene like that ever since I saw Thor say "where. is. Ultron" in A:EMH.

Lightining surging from Thor's eyes lets you know that HE is the God of Thunder with OR without Mjolnir.

TtxJ2nKQWtQ
This is what i wanted in the avengers. I REALLY want to see some ranged lightning attacks on regular sized enemies. And more use of lightning. Hopefully more of his power will be explored since it is his second solo film

BigThor

08-27-2012, 01:13 AM

This is what i wanted in the avengers. I REALLY want to see some ranged lightning attacks on regular sized enemies. And more use of lightning. Hopefully more of his power will be explored since it is his second solo film

Yep, because the lightning attack used in Thor and Iron Man's fight was suprisingly lame in my opinion.

The lightning strike before he landed by that car in NYC and the Chrystler Building attack were pretty cool though.

I would say that both Hulk and Thor are obviously the big guns of the group, and that Thor is like the trump card while Hulk is like the wild one.lol

Plus, I always like the two scenes in "The Avengers" where we heard Fury saying on how even though they needed Thor's help that they couldn't reach him since he was world's away or how Widow had Fury bring Thor into Banner's lab when going there after hearing that Loki wanted to use the Hulk's rampage for his benefit...in a way, it definitely showed on how they were fully aware of what Thor brings to the table.

Hulk was clearly portrayed as the trump card of the group, no one in the GA paid attention Widow asking for Thor's help.

"Hulk kicked ass" <----- the GA's response to the Avengers

jaqua99

08-27-2012, 02:20 PM

Yep, because the lightning attack used in Thor and Iron Man's fight was suprisingly lame in my opinion.

The lightning strike before he landed by that car in NYC and the Chrystler Building attack were pretty cool though.

Hulk was clearly portrayed as the trump card of the group, no one in the GA paid attention Widow asking for Thor's help.

"Hulk kicked ass" <----- the GA's response to the Avengers

Yeah, which I am not exactly thrilled about.

As far as I am concerned,

A guy who's strength isn't too far off from Hulk's, who can fly, who can physically take a beating, who can manipulate weather and summon lightning, with 1000 years of battle experience>>>>>>>>>>>a Being with extreme Brute strength in terms of the "trump card" IMO.

if there was an alien invasion or some giant creature attacked the world, Thor would be the one I would depend on, not Hulk

as many people have said, strength can only take you so far, and we will see that when Thanos comes in (though physically, Thanos still gives hulk a beating in my humble opinion)

BigThor

08-27-2012, 04:51 PM

Yeah, which I am not exactly thrilled about.

As far as I am concerned,

A guy who's strength isn't too far off from Hulk's, who can fly, who can physically take a beating, who can manipulate weather and summon lightning, with 1000 years of battle experience>>>>>>>>>>>a Being with extreme Brute strength in terms of the "trump card" IMO.

if there was an alien invasion or some giant creature attacked the world, Thor would be the one I would depend on, not Hulk

as many people have said, strength can only take you so far, and we will see that when Thanos comes in (though physically, Thanos still gives hulk a beating in my humble opinion)

Yeah it doesn't really make sense but Hulk's the most popular character and Marvel seems to like him more than Thor.

So that's just the way it is, we're just gonna have to accept that.

herolee10

08-27-2012, 05:40 PM

Yeah it doesn't really make sense but Hulk's the most popular character and Marvel seems to like him more than Thor.

So that's just the way it is, we're just gonna have to accept that.

Yet the irony of all of this is that Thor's getting another solo film and is the only marvel hero to have been featured in three films back to back.lol

If anything, in regards to the Hulk, I think that Joss's intent was to just get the Hulk back on track with the GA and with fans, but I don't think that he's necessarily more popular than Thor.

BigThor

08-27-2012, 07:38 PM

Yet the irony of all of this is that Thor's getting another solo film and is the only marvel hero to have been featured in three films back to back.lol

If anything, in regards to the Hulk, I think that Joss's intent was to just get the Hulk back on track with the GA and with fans, but I don't think that he's necessarily more popular than Thor.

Nah he is and he was clearly set up to be the "best part" of the Avengers.

Oh and yes with the GA Hulk is MILES ahead of Thor in terms of popularity, especially after The Avengers.

herolee10

08-27-2012, 08:23 PM

Nah he is and he was clearly set up to be the "best part" of the Avengers.

Oh and yes with the GA Hulk is MILES ahead of Thor in terms of popularity, especially after The Avengers.

Well let's hope that "Thor 2" changes that.lol Seriously, with all that Thor can do, with who's involved in the cast, with the stories that they can tell and the villains and characters from Thor's arsenal that they can show..honestly, only lazy and crude efforts would be to blame if Thor isn't more popular after Thor 2.

BigThor

08-27-2012, 08:32 PM

Well let's hope that "Thor 2" changes that.lol Seriously, with all that Thor can do, with who's involved in the cast, with the stories that they can tell and the villains and characters from Thor's arsenal that they can show..honestly, only lazy and crude efforts would be to blame if Thor isn't more popular after Thor 2.

Clearly, I know MS likes to tone down their characters but the GA wants to see what makes these characters so "super".

Because at the rate their going no one in the GA is going to be too impressed with MCU Thor's abilities.

Vartha

08-28-2012, 08:53 AM

I just want to see PICS about now.lol

jaqua99

08-28-2012, 10:18 AM

Clearly, I know MS likes to tone down their characters but the GA wants to see what makes these characters so "super".

Because at the rate their going no one in the GA is going to be too impressed with MCU Thor's abilities.

Which is why hope it is relatively clear that Kurse is the most physically opposing being he has ever fought. I mean, movie Hulk is not WWH, or WB, or any Hulk like that. So Kurse should be noticeably more powerful/stronger than we've seen Hulk or Thor.

And when Surtur comes into play. I really hope at that point he is the be all end all of villains we have seen in the MCU. Even over Thanos witohut the IG. Though Surtur>>>Thanos, hopefully it stays like that.

It probably will, with whatever story the tell with Surtur.

I just want to see PICS about now.lol

seriously hahah

BigThor

08-28-2012, 11:59 AM

Which is why hope it is relatively clear that Kurse is the most physically opposing being he has ever fought. I mean, movie Hulk is not WWH, or WB, or any Hulk like that. So Kurse should be noticeably more powerful/stronger than we've seen Hulk or Thor.

And when Surtur comes into play. I really hope at that point he is the be all end all of villains we have seen in the MCU. Even over Thanos witohut the IG. Though Surtur>>>Thanos, hopefully it stays like that.

It probably will, with whatever story the tell with Surtur.

What does this have to do with Thor himself being more impressive?

Vartha

08-28-2012, 12:29 PM

Which is why hope it is relatively clear that Kurse is the most physically opposing being he has ever fought. I mean, movie Hulk is not WWH, or WB, or any Hulk like that. So Kurse should be noticeably more powerful/stronger than we've seen Hulk or Thor.

And when Surtur comes into play. I really hope at that point he is the be all end all of villains we have seen in the MCU. Even over Thanos witohut the IG. Though Surtur>>>Thanos, hopefully it stays like that.

It probably will, with whatever story the tell with Surtur.

seriously hahah
Only ones I've seen are on our front page. :doh:

herolee10

08-28-2012, 07:01 PM

Could someone answer this for me? Does anyone know if Thor has been shown within the comics to be a natural leader as well when it comes to matters of his own realms and dealing with the people under his charge? If so, I hope to see more of this side developed and shown in the upcoming sequel

BigThor

08-28-2012, 10:10 PM

mjbull23

08-29-2012, 07:56 AM

Yet the irony of all of this is that Thor's getting another solo film and is the only marvel hero to have been featured in three films back to back.lol

If anythseing, in regards to the Hulk, I think that Joss's intent was to just get the Hulk back on track with the GA and with fans, but I don't think that he's necessarily more popular than Thor.

There may have been a time 6-7 years ago when Hulk was clearly more popular than Thor but that is no longer the case.

Agree. Thor should be perceived as the Avengers trump card. Not Hulk.

BigThor

08-29-2012, 03:19 PM

There may have been a time 6-7 years ago when Hulk was clearly more popular than Thor but that is no longer the case.

Agree. Thor should be perceived as the Avengers trump card. Not Hulk.

Well the GA seems to think Hulk was the best part of The Avengers and he's the only one their raving about.

It seems like Hulk is still clearly alot more popular than Thor from everyone's reactions to the film.

jaqua99

08-29-2012, 09:30 PM

Only ones I've seen are on our front page. :doh:

Well the GA seems to think Hulk was the best part of The Avengers and he's the only one their raving about.

It seems like Hulk is still clearly alot more popular than Thor from everyone's reactions to the film.

yeah seriously. Even though to me, based on what was seen in Thor, and even in the avengers, in terms of Levels of power I think Thor is on another level

ThePowerCosmic

08-29-2012, 10:22 PM

yeah seriously. Even though to me, based on what was seen in Thor, and even in the avengers, in terms of Levels of power I think Thor is on another level

Of course Thor has more power than the Hulk. It's strength that the Hulk has more of.

BigThor

08-29-2012, 11:26 PM

Of course Thor has more power than the Hulk. It's strength that the Hulk has more of.

Yep and that's enough to make him more popular with the GA.

herolee10

08-29-2012, 11:47 PM

ThePowerCosmic

08-29-2012, 11:55 PM

Yep and that's enough to make him more popular with the GA.

He'd be more popular if Marvel stopped messing around and showed us what he's really capable of.

BigThor

08-30-2012, 12:08 AM

He'd be more popular if Marvel stopped messing around and showed us what he's really capable of.

Dude we're always on the same page, because that's EXACTLY what I've been saying. :up:

If they portray Thor in the same way that the last season of EMH's did when it comes to how much he evens the playing field for his teammates, I think that would help. The episode where Thor comes back to help the group take on the Skrulls and where he returns to NYC to confront Galactus was just beyond epic imho and I loved on how everyone was aware on how powerful Thor is; heck it took nearly everything that Ultron had to subdue Thor when he was being ganged up by the robot versions of the Avengers.

Honestly I wish they've would've done that in TA, but I guess it's not too late they can always do it in TA2.

I would like for him to get a power boost in Thor 2 though, it's about time they show what Thor's really made of.

ThePowerCosmic

08-30-2012, 01:08 AM

Dude we're always on the same page, because that's EXACTLY what I've been saying. :up:

At this point, I'm not surprised. :woot:

What can I say? We have great taste.

DOOZlovesBOOZ

08-30-2012, 02:24 AM

Count me as another that is tired of them holding out on Thors powers. Hoping to see mjolnir used to open portals since they are traveling to another realm(s).

BigThor

08-30-2012, 02:47 AM

At this point, I'm not surprised. :woot:

Oh yeah, why not?

Count me as another that is tired of them holding out on Thors powers. Hoping to see mjolnir used to open portals since they are traveling to another realm(s).

Yeah I mean I'm "okay" with how Thor's powers/abilties have been portrayed so far, but I'm definately not impressed.

ThePowerCosmic

08-30-2012, 02:24 PM

Oh yeah, why not?

Because we tend to agree on pretty much everything when it comes to CBMs, especially Marvel's.

metaphysician

08-30-2012, 05:13 PM

BigThor

08-31-2012, 03:20 AM

I don't think it has anything to do with power. The GA liked Hulk so much because Ruffalo did an excellent performance, and because it was the first really good big screen portrayal of a character who is already known and popular with the GA.

I'm pretty sure no one in the GA said "woah Bruce Banner was awesome", everyone was too busy talking about Hulk kicking ass.

American Maid

08-31-2012, 08:51 AM

I'm pretty sure no one in the GA said "woah Bruce Banner was awesome", everyone was too busy talking about Hulk kicking ass.

Actually, several people in my circle, including myself, thought well of Ruffalo's performance. We certainly enjoyed the spectacles that were the fights, but also enjoyed character development parts of the movie.

I think the Hulk has a head start in popularity because he has been in several movies and TV shows at this point. And that's probably because his powers can be written to be easier on a special effects budget.

I also wonder if Hulk was more popular in the books from way back when. (I don't know for certain, I just suspect so). So, going back to before there were any superhero movies (which almost would have been even before the Hulk TV show), who was selling more books?

Having said all this, I'm sure people will love Thor when his second movie comes out. They certainly enjoyed the first movie!

Godzilla2000

08-31-2012, 10:58 AM

So, will we be getting new costume designs for Thor's armor in this movie? Has anything leaked about what it might look like? I don't think they'd retain the Avengers costume would they?

BigThor

08-31-2012, 12:42 PM

Actually, several people in my circle, including myself, thought well of Ruffalo's performance. We certainly enjoyed the spectacles that were the fights, but also enjoyed character development parts of the movie.

I think the Hulk has a head start in popularity because he has been in several movies and TV shows at this point. And that's probably because his powers can be written to be easier on a special effects budget.

I also wonder if Hulk was more popular in the books from way back when. (I don't know for certain, I just suspect so). So, going back to before there were any superhero movies (which almost would have been even before the Hulk TV show), who was selling more books?

Having said all this, I'm sure people will love Thor when his second movie comes out. They certainly enjoyed the first movie!

Understood that but people in "your circle" and the GA as a whole are entirely two different things.

I'm speaking from Twitter reactions, news articles, and everyone's conversations all three times I went to see TA.

So, will we be getting new costume designs for Thor's armor in this movie? Has anything leaked about what it might look like? I don't think they'd retain the Avengers costume would they?

I want him to wear a costume that's very similar to his sleeveless costume with the cape from the IM fight in TA.

Imo it accentuates Hemsworth's muscles and makes Thor look alot more invulnerable since he doesn't need to wear armor.

BigThor

08-31-2012, 12:45 PM

Double post

American Maid

08-31-2012, 01:46 PM

So, will we be getting new costume designs for Thor's armor in this movie? Has anything leaked about what it might look like? I don't think they'd retain the Avengers costume would they?

Jaimie Alexander had tweeted at the end of July that her costume got a reboot. So, maybe Hemsworth's has too.

American Maid

08-31-2012, 01:52 PM

Understood that but people in "your circle" and the GA as a whole are entirely two different things.

I'm speaking from Twitter reactions, news articles, and everyone's conversations all three times I went to see TA.

I want him to wear a costume that's very similar to his sleeveless costume with the cape from the IM fight in TA.

Imo it accentuates Hemsworth's muscles and makes Thor look alot more invulnerable since he doesn't need to wear armor.

Strictly speaking, you probably don't know who my personal friends are, at least not all of them :yay:. But your point is well taken; for the most part, in fact they are more in tune with the Marvel universe than me. The only point I wanted to make with that comment is that some people enjoyed the non-fight aspects of the movies in addition to the fight sequences.

Regarding costume and invulnerability: well, it's not like he has to worry about small weapons attacks, like a knife to the stomach or. . . oh wait :oldrazz:

jaqua99

08-31-2012, 01:57 PM

If they portray Thor in the same way that the last season of EMH's did when it comes to how much he evens the playing field for his teammates, I think that would help. The episode where Thor comes back to help the group take on the Skrulls and where he returns to NYC to confront Galactus was just beyond epic imho and I loved on how everyone was aware on how powerful Thor is; heck it took nearly everything that Ultron had to subdue Thor when he was being ganged up by the robot versions of the Avengers.

That was so awesome. It really showed what Thor unrestrained is capable of.

He'd be more popular if Marvel stopped messing around and showed us what he's really capable of.

Nail on the head

Dude we're always on the same page, because that's EXACTLY what I've been saying. :up:

Honestly I wish they've would've done that in TA, but I guess it's not too late they can always do it in TA2.

I would like for him to get a power boost in Thor 2 though, it's about time they show what Thor's really made of.

Count me as another that is tired of them holding out on Thors powers. Hoping to see mjolnir used to open portals since they are traveling to another realm(s).

I don't want to see just portal opening. I want to see him to all sorts of things with it. Big Lightning storms, energy blasts, portals. Like blasts that are clearly not lightning.

I want lightning to surge from his eyes, and I want a moment where he summons a storm without mjolnir. I've envisioned it something like, he gets knocked away from mjolnir when fighting Kurse and Malekith. And He summons a lightning storm, and they both sort of look at him. And Thor says something along the lines of "Mjolnir is but a tool, the thunder and lightning are in my blood, and are mine to comand"

Understood that but people in "your circle" and the GA as a whole are entirely two different things.

I'm speaking from Twitter reactions, news articles, and everyone's conversations all three times I went to see TA.

I want him to wear a costume that's very similar to his sleeveless costume with the cape from the IM fight in TA.

Imo it accentuates Hemsworth's muscles and makes Thor look alot more invulnerable since he doesn't need to wear armor.

In all honesty, I would love if the did a bigger homage. Like, hae his pants blue. And honestly give him golden boots. Literally, when he fought Ironman, it was almost there. Just make his boots yellow, and his pants blue. That works for me.

It's literally a modern day movie version of the classic thor look.

Which i truly miss in the comics these days

Godzilla2000

09-01-2012, 12:34 AM

Jaimie Alexander had tweeted at the end of July that her costume got a reboot. So, maybe Hemsworth's has too.

Well then, it would appear that they most likely will be updating most of the costumes for the sequel. I just wonder what they will look like.

BigThor

09-01-2012, 12:54 AM

Strictly speaking, you probably don't know who my personal friends are, at least not all of them :yay:. But your point is well taken; for the most part, in fact they are more in tune with the Marvel universe than me. The only point I wanted to make with that comment is that some people enjoyed the non-fight aspects of the movies in addition to the fight sequences.

Regarding costume and invulnerability: well, it's not like he has to worry about small weapons attacks, like a knife to the stomach or. . . oh wait :oldrazz:

Thor was wearing full body armor when he got stabbed btw and Loki has super strength and he used asgardian metal.

It's not like it was a "kitchen knife" or anything.

herolee10

09-02-2012, 06:21 AM

Thor was wearing full body armor when he got stabbed btw and Loki has super strength and he used asgardian metal.

It's not like it was a "kitchen knife" or anything.

I remember though that the template for his Avengers armor does have some open/uncovered spots to it, in particular, the sides of his waist are left completely vulnerable, though I can't remember where exactly Loki stabbed him.

Regarding his costume in general, I hope that Alan takes the best of both designs from his "Thor" and "The Avengers" look and melds them all into one since I have yet to see a Thor costume that has me completely won over.

Baneis8feettall

09-02-2012, 05:38 PM

American Maid

09-02-2012, 06:09 PM

Did Chris Hemsworth has more blonde hair/beard/eyebrows in Thor compared to Avengers? Also Loki's eyebrows changed, right?....

I haven't realized during Avengers... They look like more of usual themselves in Avengers.

Also do you think there will another "Another!" That line must be Hemsworth's "I'll be back" :woot:

Hemsworth's hair: yes, blonder in Thor1, and shorter.
Loki's eyebrows: looking at some Google Images, it appears that they made his eyebrows dark in Thor1, and left them natural color in The Avengers.
"Another!": I recently saw some of the deleted scenes from Thor1. There's one prior to the coronation in which Thor enters an area with a fire pit, cries "Another!", and tosses his cup. Then, there's some deleted footage from when he and Selvig are in the bar. Selvig has the mug with the Boilermaker in it, cries "Another!" and tosses it. Thor's amused by this and follows suit.

So I think they may well do another "Another!" in T:TDW :yay:

BigThor

09-02-2012, 07:29 PM

I remember though that the template for his Avengers armor does have some open/uncovered spots to it, in particular, the sides of his waist are left completely vulnerable, though I can't remember where exactly Loki stabbed him.

Regarding his costume in general, I hope that Alan takes the best of both designs from his "Thor" and "The Avengers" look and melds them all into one since I have yet to see a Thor costume that has me completely won over.

Yeah you're right about there being some uncovered spots in Thor's armor, I didn't really think about that.

I'm not gonna lie, Thor's armored outfit in THOR and his sleeveless outfit in TA completely won me over.

In all honesty, I would love if the did a bigger homage. Like, hae his pants blue. And honestly give him golden boots. Literally, when he fought Ironman, it was almost there. Just make his boots yellow, and his pants blue. That works for me.

It's literally a modern day movie version of the classic thor look.

Which i truly miss in the comics these days

Thor was definately wearing blue pants when he fought Iron Man.

http://static.moviefanatic.com/images/gallery/the-avengers-chris-hemsworth-is-thor_605x403.jpg

I think yellow boots should be left in the comics, they didn't even match the rest of his costume to be honest.

pr0xyt0xin

09-02-2012, 08:56 PM

Hemsworth's hair: yes, blonder in Thor1, and shorter.
Loki's eyebrows: looking at some Google Images, it appears that they made his eyebrows dark in Thor1, and left them natural color in The Avengers.
"Another!": I recently saw some of the deleted scenes from Thor1. There's one prior to the coronation in which Thor enters an area with a fire pit, cries "Another!", and tosses his cup. Then, there's some deleted footage from when he and Selvig are in the bar. Selvig has the mug with the Boilermaker in it, cries "Another!" and tosses it. Thor's amused by this and follows suit.

So I think they may well do another "Another!" in T:TDW :yay:

He shouts for "Another!" in Thor in a deleted scene with Loki on Asgard too. :D
(the one with the snakes)

i love that line.

jaqua99

09-03-2012, 10:38 AM

Yeah you're right about there being some uncovered spots in Thor's armor, I didn't really think about that.

I'm not gonna lie, Thor's armored outfit in THOR and his sleeveless outfit in TA completely won me over.

Thor was definately wearing blue pants when he fought Iron Man.

http://static.moviefanatic.com/images/gallery/the-avengers-chris-hemsworth-is-thor_605x403.jpg

I think yellow boots should be left in the comics, they didn't even match the rest of his costume to be honest.

Oh I didn't even notice the blue pants, its dark. And I would like the yellow boots to be honest.

BigThor

09-03-2012, 11:47 PM

Oh I didn't even notice the blue pants, its dark. And I would like the yellow boots to be honest.

They don't even match and they don't look like something a badass Asgardian warrior should wear.

BoredGuy

09-04-2012, 12:58 PM

If there was more gold on the costume, you could conceivably make the boots gold too

but with the current design, gold/yellow would look pretty awful

BigThor

09-04-2012, 05:11 PM

If there was more gold on the costume, you could conceivably make the boots gold too

but with the current design, gold/yellow would look pretty awful

Bingo :up:

So I say they should just leave the gold to Iron Man since it actually matches his costume.

The Caped Knight

09-04-2012, 05:22 PM

I'd like to see Thor wear his helmet in battle at least once .

herolee10

09-04-2012, 07:04 PM

Speaking of battle scenes, I really hope that with a director from Game of Thrones on board, that the action scenes involving Thor feel more...Idk...more intense and gritty, in a similar manner to how Peter Jackson had his characters fighting Orcs..where it isn't R Rated Stuff that we're seeing, but something that feels more fluid.

This could range from not only a more realistic setting for Thor to fight in, but using more practical effects when applying some of Thor's abilities on screen as he's fighting.

I swear, whenever I watch the battle with the Frost Giants, my mind is at times taken out of it because I can always tell that the background/setting that they're on is a sound stage due to how fake the cliffs looked...and some of the bad CGI in the town stuff with Thor against the Destroyer with how they did him spinning his hammer at it while flying inside of a Tornado were less than stellar effects.

BigThor

09-04-2012, 07:44 PM

I'd like to see Thor wear his helmet in battle at least once .

Same here, I'd like to see him don it in battle against Kurse which would be a "**** just got real" moment.

jaqua99

09-05-2012, 05:42 PM

Same here, I'd like to see him don it in battle against Kurse which would be a "**** just got real" moment.

Sure would.

and forget I ever mentioned the boots guys :doh:

BigThor

09-05-2012, 09:56 PM

Sure would.

and forget I ever mentioned the boots guys :doh:

Hey you're entitled to have an opinion just like the rest of us, just because we disagree doesn't make it any less valid. :up:

jaqua99

09-06-2012, 12:23 PM

Hey you're entitled to have an opinion just like the rest of us, just because we disagree doesn't make it any less valid. :up:

hahah so true. It would look ridiculous, but I don't care. I would love it haha.

FelixLeiter

09-11-2012, 11:39 AM

Looks like he's going to have the high boots and maybe leg armour.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2201639/Chris-Hemsworth-joined-equally-buff-stunt-double-starts-shooting-Thor-sequel.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/11/article-0-14F5FDFD000005DC-78_306x663.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/11/article-0-14F5F984000005DC-201_306x663.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/11/article-0-14F60531000005DC-215_634x552.jpg

FelixLeiter

09-11-2012, 11:47 AM

I think I like the old silver chest plates better than the bronze. Actually I liked the old cape attachment better too.

psylockolussus

09-11-2012, 12:19 PM

I loved the new update in his costume!

Rock Sexton

09-11-2012, 12:24 PM

I loved the new update in his costume!

Yup. The rustic touches are going to be perfect for Taylor's style of shooting. I've loved all the suits he's warn and this is just another one to add to the collection.

The Caped Knight

09-11-2012, 12:34 PM

FelixLeiter

09-11-2012, 12:35 PM

If they're moving away from the slightly alien look to something more medieval tthat's a great way to bring the helmet back. It was never actually called a crown on-screen so I don't see why it can't be used as armour.

Quasimod0

09-11-2012, 12:51 PM

Thor looks alot more mature in this one. Love it

BoredGuy

09-11-2012, 01:03 PM

Yeah watching Hemsworth's progression through these movies is pretty great

He doesn't look old now, per se, but he still looks so much older and more dignified than in Thor

Also, love the hair + extensions as opposed to the wig
This is his best hair yet

Lady Marion

09-11-2012, 02:14 PM

Wow, looks damn impressive. Although I like the TA style more at the moment. But that may change in time. The boots look much better this time.

Webfoot Hero

09-11-2012, 03:55 PM

I'm kind of digging his new look. It seems more battle-ready than what we saw in TA. The lack of the high, armored boots in TA seemed to be the biggest thing missing from the costume. Not quite sure about the armored groin flap and how low the upper armor comes down on his hips, but once we see it motion it may look okay.

BigThor

09-11-2012, 05:06 PM

I think Thor's new outfit is my favorite so far, I prefer the black pants over the blue ones and the armored groin covering is epic.

The broze discs looks better than the silver one's in my opinion, the attachment of the cape is also pretty sweet.

DarthSkywalker

09-11-2012, 05:46 PM

My favorite armor is still the original because of how they handled the cape, but I really, really like the new one outside of the cape clasp.

JB-the-Hunter

09-11-2012, 05:57 PM

Depending on how it looks on film, this one will probably be my favorite.

Silvermoon

09-11-2012, 06:00 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/11/article-0-14F5F984000005DC-201_306x663.jpg
And I am quickly reminded why Thor is my favorite of the heroes. *sigh*

Okay, shoving the fangirl in me aside for a moment (as hard as it is). I like the changes, and I love the look. His hair is a good length, good color, from what we can see, I like the length of the beard. I like the changes to the armor/outfit. The loincloth, the changes to the leg armor/boots. Still hoping for a sleeveless look as well....or better yet, a topless scene with him. *cough* sorry, told you it was hard to shove the fangirl aside :oldrazz:

American Maid

09-11-2012, 06:13 PM

Still hoping for a sleeveless look as well....or better yet, a topless scene with him.

Well, the audience *was* promised that the romance dynamic would be continued. . . .

BigThor

09-11-2012, 06:16 PM

My favorite armor is still the original because of how they handled the cape, but I really, really like the new one outside of the cape clasp.

The new costume is my favorite followed by the original, the armored outfit at the end of TA is my least favorite.

DarthSkywalker

09-11-2012, 06:20 PM

The new costume is my favorite followed by the original, the armored outfit at the end of TA is my least favorite.

Yeah, I didn't like the Avengers armor too much, but I thought it looked okay when he was on the helicarrier and he didn't have the cape or chain mail sleeves. My least favorite look however was definitely cape, no sleeves when he first arrives.

marcvader

09-11-2012, 06:21 PM

The only negative I can find on this suit is the flare out at the bottom of the cuirass.

BigThor

09-11-2012, 06:25 PM

Yeah, I didn't like the Avengers armor too much, but I thought it looked okay when he was on the helicarrier and he didn't have the cape or chain mail sleeves. My least favorite look however was definitely cape, no sleeves when he first arrives.

The sleeveless outfit for my favorite Thor costume in TA, it's my 3rd favorite overall.

JB-the-Hunter

09-11-2012, 06:31 PM

I much preferred his full Avengers armor to his original armor, save for the pants.
Thor's pants in TDW blow every single one of his others away.

BigThor

09-11-2012, 08:50 PM

I much preferred his full Avengers armor to his original armor, save for the pants.
Thor's pants in TDW blow every single one of his others away.

Nah not me, his full Avengers armor looked dull and those pants were out of place.

With that being said, I didn't "dislike" any of Thor's costume as a matter of fact I'd call all of them "good".

herolee10

09-11-2012, 11:28 PM

Nah not me, his full Avengers armor looked dull and those pants were out of place.

With that being said, I didn't "dislike" any of Thor's costume as a matter of fact I'd call all of them "good".

Some of my issues with his armors from the previous two films is that there were times where I could tell that the parts that were supposed to be presented as Metallic were actually very rubber/leather looking, but yeah I do prefer the armor in his first film as opposed to his full look in the Avengers.

I hope it doesn't become a trend where Thor's costume design is only great in his own films.lol

GRangerPrimeNYC

09-12-2012, 12:39 AM

Can someone do a comparison photo of the Thor/Avengers/TDK suits side by side?!

herolee10

09-12-2012, 12:51 AM

Can someone do a comparison photo of the Thor/Avengers/TDK suits side by side?!

The Dark Knight?:oldrazz:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg842/scaled.php?server=842&filename=1000pxthormoviestill.jpg&res=landinghttp://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg832/scaled.php?server=832&filename=photo5exb.jpg&res=landinghttp://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7066/article014f5f984000005d.jpg

SpideyFan866

09-12-2012, 02:43 AM

The new costume is my favorite followed by the original, the armored outfit at the end of TA is my least favorite.

Agreed. I think the new one is so good because

A) its the most viking inspired and its rugged and worn look makes it more believable as armor someone would wear in battle, something that cant be fully said about the others. Which leads me to

B) the Thor and TA suits were a bit too regal. The Thor suit was like this but the solidness and stiffness of the suit really made it feel like armor and it worked well. With the TA suit No only was the chest armor a bit too extravagant, it never does REALLY feel like an armor you should be battling in and its almost as if the designers try to fool you and make you believe its a solid piece but they fail.

GRangerPrimeNYC

09-12-2012, 02:51 AM

The Dark Knight?:oldrazz:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg842/scaled.php?server=842&filename=1000pxthormoviestill.jpg&res=landing
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg832/scaled.php?server=832&filename=photo5exb.jpg&res=landing
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7066/article014f5f984000005d.jpg

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg842/scaled.php?server=842&filename=1000pxthormoviestill.jpg&res=landing

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg832/scaled.php?server=832&filename=photo5exb.jpg&res=landing

http://juantadeo.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/batman.jpg

Thanks

Lol, I meant TDW :doh: :D

Oberon sexton

09-12-2012, 08:04 AM

I like the new boots, and the basic grittiness that they've added to his overall look.

I'm wondering, will they use the Gaea connection or will they keep Frigga as Thor's birth mother?

FelixLeiter

09-12-2012, 09:25 AM

I hope they keep Frigga, at least for this movie.

TheGuy

09-12-2012, 11:00 AM

I like the new boots, and the basic grittiness that they've added to his overall look.
Yeah. :up:

jaqua99

09-12-2012, 11:43 AM

I love it. I liked the cape best in the first movie. Other than that, this new one is his best look yet. I like how the armor sorta goes down his legs. It seems like they are getting closer and closer to his current look :up:

pr0xyt0xin

09-12-2012, 11:49 AM

Well, the audience *was* promised that the romance dynamic would be continued. . . .

right, and considering he made out with her for next to no reason in Thor and didnt call her in The Avengers, I can only assume we will see a sex scene in TDW. Possibly with Sif.

American Maid

09-12-2012, 12:22 PM

right, and considering he made out with her for next to no reason in Thor and didnt call her in The Avengers, I can only assume we will see a sex scene in TDW. Possibly with Sif.

Well, to be fair, Jane was the one who started it (the kiss). As for calling Jane, he may not know what a phone is. But since his name is on the movie, it's reasonable to suppose that he winds up with *someone*.

(My previous comment was not intended to be all that serious, btw.)

pr0xyt0xin

09-12-2012, 12:28 PM

Well, to be fair, Jane was the one who started it (the kiss). As for calling Jane, he may not know what a phone is. But since his name is on the movie, it's reasonable to suppose that he winds up with *someone*.

(My previous comment was not intended to be all that serious, btw.)

oh but I'm totally serious. I think we are overdue for an MCU romp in the sack. closest we got so far was Banner's heart monitor beeping a little too fast. :whatever:

BigThor

09-12-2012, 04:28 PM

So does anyone want Thor to "stand out" in the battle between the "two kingdoms" like he did in the Jotunheim battle?

marcvader

09-12-2012, 04:30 PM

Um, its his movie. Why wouldn't he?

jaqua99

09-12-2012, 04:32 PM

oh but I'm totally serious. I think we are overdue for an MCU romp in the sack. closest we got so far was Banner's heart monitor beeping a little too fast. :whatever:

No. No super hero porn lol

So does anyone want Thor to "stand out" in the battle between the "two kingdoms" like he did in the Jotunheim battle?

DUHHHHHHHHHHH

:word:

metaphysician

09-12-2012, 05:49 PM

I like the new boots, and the basic grittiness that they've added to his overall look.

I'm wondering, will they use the Gaea connection or will they keep Frigga as Thor's birth mother?

I really hope they ditch that entire element. It really wouldn't contribute anything useful to the movie, and would just create a muddled mess otherwise.

Bren

09-12-2012, 05:56 PM

herolee10

09-12-2012, 06:14 PM

Maybe it's been answered elsewhere, but why exactly was Thor going to become King in 'Thor'?

I got the implication that 'this time it's different' regarding the Odinsleep, so were they going to crown Thor King as a precaution? Which sounds pretty daft if Odin (as it happened) woke again. Why not simply announce him as successor IN CASE, rather than zap him in there. Clearly when Odin awoke, he was still fully capable of being King so......

Was an alarm ringing on Odin's king-watch that said 'it's time'?

I never really understood it.

My belief was that even though Odin normally wakes up from his Odinsleep, I think he was hoping that he could finally pass on his duties as King to Thor for good by that point in time and allow Thor to take the reigns, which is probably why he was prolonging his sleep since he wanted to get that out of the way first.

metaphysician

09-12-2012, 07:12 PM

Another possibility is that Asgard does not follow strict primogeniture, or at least doesn't have a strong established tradition for such ( which makes sense, given that near-immortals don't need heirs very often ). The ceremony could well have been more Thor's formal investiture as Odin's heir and successor, officially recognized as crown prince rather than simply being presumptive successor. Mind, his very first duty would have likely been "rule in Odin's stead as he enters the Odinsleep" either way.

Silvermoon

09-12-2012, 07:29 PM

Saw this on tumblr, don't think I realized this about the Avengers armor... it's interesting (if that's in fact what's etched on the vambrace - which it looks like it is):

http://intrinsicallydebauched.tumblr.com/post/31425879788/a-vambrace-in-and-of-itself-is-nothing-more-than-a

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9f3ctyLA1rg8rq9o1_250.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9f3ctyLA1rg8rq9o2_250.jpg

A vambrace in and of itself is nothing more than a piece of armor worn by warriors to protect their lower arms. However, in Norse mythology it was accustom to get symbols of your loved ones etched/carved into your vambrace as a way of mourning those who have past. It is a way of carrying your loved ones with you into battle.
In the Avengers you can see that Thor has the symbol of Loki’s helmet carved into his vambrace. This shows that he is mourning the loss of his brother. This could be literal or metaphorical death. However, he is no longer wearing the symbol on his armor in Thor 2. This could mean several things. One being simply , ‘Lokis alive…so lets not mourn the living.’ Or it could mean, ‘Loki is alive and redeemed so lets really not mourn a good thing here!’ Or it could be the other extreme, ‘Loki….you have ****ed up SO royally that I’m not even going to mourn your sorry ass.’
Either way! Lets just hope for good news and wait on baited breath for more Thor 2 goodness….

American Maid

09-12-2012, 07:55 PM

Saw this on tumblr, don't think I realized this about the Avengers armor... it's interesting (if that's in fact what's etched on the vambrace - which it looks like it is):

<tumblr screen shot didn't carry over in the quote>

This is a really cool idea!

I'm having trouble finding another description of it. This link is a discussion group for people interested in Irish history, the particular topic being (historical) Viking armor. They seem to think that only the Varangians, Vikings of the east, in present-day Russia down through present-day Turkey (Byzantium), commonly wore vambraces (and they don't say anything about putting symbols on them). http://livinghistory.ie/viewtopic.php?t=717&f=7

One of the posters on that discussion group provided this link, which people may also find interesting, about Viking armor: http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/manufacturing/text/viking_mail.htm

But there's no reason why this can't be an Asgardian tradition!

Adamantium

09-18-2012, 08:43 AM

ThePowerCosmic

09-18-2012, 09:29 AM

I think it was just you lol.

ThePowerCosmic

09-18-2012, 09:35 AM

Saw this on tumblr, don't think I realized this about the Avengers armor... it's interesting (if that's in fact what's etched on the vambrace - which it looks like it is):

Wow, that's definitely an interesting theory.

American Maid

09-18-2012, 09:38 AM

I don't know if this has been asked or suggested before but in The Avengers when Captain America and Thor are fighting the Chituari and Thor helps Captain America up and Cap says are you getting sleepy...that was implied to be a stab at Odins sleep right or was it just me?

I think it was just you lol.

Yeah, I can't think of how Captain America would be aware of how Odin enters the Odinsleep from time to time. So probably he meant it simply as banter.

Also, I have the impression that the Odinsleep (later called the Thorsleep) comes on when the eponymous sleeper overexerts himself in the use of magic. That wasn't the case in TA.

Smashlilman

09-19-2012, 10:59 AM

pr0xyt0xin

09-19-2012, 11:13 AM

Saw this on tumblr, don't think I realized this about the Avengers armor... it's interesting (if that's in fact what's etched on the vambrace - which it looks like it is):

It does look like it is. And I wouldnt put it past Marvel studios to do something so seemingly trivial to make the film more legit.

Rourke's tattoos were authentic Russian prison tattoos. I'm sure theres a lot of cool stuff even us fans missed. :oldrazz:

Vartha

09-19-2012, 02:38 PM

Yeah they were that way in Thor too, but in Thor the left and right were two designs and one was shorter than the other.
Saw this on tumblr, don't think I realized this about the Avengers armor... it's interesting (if that's in fact what's etched on the vambrace - which it looks like it is):

pr0xyt0xin

09-19-2012, 03:39 PM

no they definitely look different than in Thor. Its just generically stylized in Thor I think. I just checked.

herolee10

10-07-2012, 02:10 AM

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/52/jtfhjtfhfrth.png

Caboose

10-07-2012, 06:58 AM

Boss.

Godzilla2000

10-07-2012, 07:29 AM

Pfft! Sharp dressed men never attracted me at all. Hah hah! Now if he were to dress up like Ulfric Stormcloak from Skyrim that might catch my attention. lol

ThePowerCosmic

10-07-2012, 10:02 AM

I want to see Thor dressed up like that one day on Earth.

ericadawn16

10-07-2012, 06:42 PM

I second this. We've gotten Loki in a suit twice so we should get Thor at least once...it could be a disguise thing even.

BigThor

10-08-2012, 01:45 AM

Pfft! Sharp dressed men never attracted me at all. Hah hah! Now if he were to dress up like Ulfric Stormcloak from Skyrim that might catch my attention. lol

...just go ask Hemsworth if he cares. :oldrazz:

the dmg

10-08-2012, 02:38 PM

They can knock the helmet off of his head in battle for all I care, I just want to see him be in a fight with it on for just a little while. Pretty please.

jaqua99

10-08-2012, 03:06 PM

^ yes yes yes

elizah72

10-24-2012, 11:17 AM

Your just reading to much into it. I do how ever think that that line was Joss Whedons' way of conveying the fact that Thor doesn't tire.

Actually I think that "what? you gettin' sleepy" line is just Whedon's way of having Steve show that tough little guy from Brooklyn coming through. I love that moment but I dont think it has anything to do with Thor and Odinsleep.

jaqua99

10-24-2012, 12:15 PM

^ I'm with ya on that one. Though idk actually, i kind of saw it as, Thor had a lot of energy, was fighting fine, cap took a shot to the gut, Thor helped him up, and asked him yada yada, and cap's response was a bit of irony, I am the guy who is hurt in the stomach and needed help getting up, you just sent a car flying..."what, you gettin sleepy" I think it was a bit of both, i think it was cap beig ironic because of what you said elizah, and I think he said that because Thor was fine :P

elizah72

10-24-2012, 01:25 PM

Yeah, well like I said, it's showing there's still a tough little guy from Brooklyn lurking under that now well muscled red white and blue exterior. :woot: New Steve being true to old Steve.

could also be just a little wink/nod at the Odinsleep thing, now that I think about it, but I dont think that Steve needs to know about it, in order to make the remark. Just more something the writer is alluding to.

Question, have we ever figured out how Thor knows that Loki's army is the Chitauri, when just before that on the mountain he asks Loki "who controls the would be king?" As if he has no infomation what so ever? I can't imagine Loki told him anything inbetween that time.

Edit: It occurred to me that maybe he knows about the name of the army and something about what Loki is up to from Heimdall or Odin, prior, and that they just don't know who the head honcho behind everything is.

BoredGuy

10-24-2012, 02:59 PM

I did kinda wonder that too^
Thor seemed to not know anything about Loki's plans when he arrived
But then on the helicarrier, he knew more or less what was up

not a big deal, but i did wonder how he knew about the chitauri

jaqua99

10-24-2012, 06:44 PM

I'm with Elizah. We didn't see Odin tell Thor Loki is here, he probably got told by them.

elizah72

10-25-2012, 08:24 AM

American Maid

10-25-2012, 09:52 AM

Speaking of Steve/Cap is he still possibly going to have a cameo on Thor 2 , or no?

And....
"Whoever wields this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor"

Do we suppose Cap could pick up Mjolnir? He may be the only other Avenger who could, possibly (we know Hulk can't!)

He can in the books, or at least has. I don't know the particulars, though.

Captain America seems to have a fundamental goodness at his core, at least in the movies. For that reason, I really like him, and it seems appropriate that he would be deemed worthy.

elizah72

10-25-2012, 12:25 PM

Okay! That really delights me that he can pick up the hammer in the books. :yay: Yay Cap!

jaqua99

10-25-2012, 12:39 PM

^ you haven't read any of the books???

and I would prefer cap to pick up the hammer in an avengers movie, he picks up the hammer, hits someone with it, Thor says..Odin's beard

American Maid

10-25-2012, 12:54 PM

^ you haven't read any of the books???

Everyone has to start somewhere.

and I would prefer cap to pick up the hammer in an avengers movie, he picks up the hammer, hits someone with it, Thor says..Odin's beard

I have the impression that it's rather rare for Captain America to pick up Mjolnir. So for me it's very optional whether we ever see it in any of the movies. Maybe if there was an especially dire need, unusual circumstances.

Otherwise, it's likely to undercut the perception of Thor.

elizah72

10-25-2012, 02:21 PM

^ you haven't read any of the books???

Nope. And honestly I hesitate to start, at least not until after the films as a series are done. I've observed over the years with already established fandoms like this one that oftentimes those established book/comic fans appear to have a great deal of difficulty just letting go of preconceived notions and sitting down and enjoying the movies for what they are. Some can I am sure but at least some (usually the most vocal) seem unable to enjoy the film versions fully because they are too upset that such and such wasnt represented the way they see them, or a character they like isn't there at all, or they didnt tell the story exactly the way they read it the first time. So they think and often say on the internet that it sucks and I hate this character and I hate that about the films and get snarky or testy with anyone who appears to be enjoying those aspects of the films that they are mad about. It is sad, but I've seen and to a much lesser extent been in that type of frame of mind before enough and I don't particularly want to end up once again feeling that way going into theaters or coming on the internet to chat. Like I said, maybe after the series are done, and the hype has died down, it will be a good way to extend enjoyment of the characters. But I've always been more of a film buff in any case.

American Maid

10-25-2012, 03:02 PM

Nope. And honestly I hesitate to start, at least not until after the films as a series are done. . . .Some . . . seem unable to enjoy the film versions fully because they are too upset that such and such wasnt represented the way they see them, or a character they like isn't there at all, or they didnt tell the story exactly the way they read it the first time. .. .I've . . . been in that type of frame of mind before enough and I don't particularly want to end up once again feeling that way going into theaters or coming on the internet to chat. Like I said, maybe after the series are done, and the hype has died down, it will be a good way to extend enjoyment of the characters. But I've always been more of a film buff in any case.

(As you can tell, I've cut some important parts out of your post. I hope I've pared it down to the part I want to address without misrepresenting your meaning. If I have, I apologize. It wasn't my intent!)

The relevant risk is whether you would be able to enjoy the film for what it is if you have read the books. It sounds like you are somewhat concerned about this.

Consider this: suppose a group comes together on a forum consisting only of those who have only seen the movies, and they discuss. They all will have different views on characters' motivations, quality of actors' performances, effectiveness of direction, etc. Ideally, each participant would be receptive to considering another's point of view.

Could not the books be considered an extension of such a discussion, with the books' authors and artists presenting still more interpretations of the characters (albeit drawing on additional plot lines that they themselves create)? It's possible that how a character is represented in one installment of the film series to be different from how that same character is represented in another installment. The hypothetical group could discuss which interpretation is more "true" to the character, or at least more entertaining. The books could be considered the same way.

A shorter argument: you could be missing out on some good entertainment that is more or less in the same vein of what you have already enjoyed.

elizah72

10-25-2012, 03:05 PM

Just to try and get back to the subject of the thread, since it's now a bit hijacked (sorry). I'll ask what I asked in the another character thread. What do you want to see for Thor in Thor 2?

Definitely want another flashback with Thor and Loki as Teens/kids, showing their relationship growing up.

Would love to see or at least hear how he won Mjolnir in the first place. How old was he, and after what great triumph was he presented with it.

More on his relationship with Odin now after the events of Thor and Avengers. Plus I want to find out why he has not now been given Asgard, (if that's the case) now that he seems to have proven himself worthy.

Sif/Thor - 'nuff said. :)

that's all for now for me, anybody else?

Edit: and thank you for your thoughts American Maid, I will take them into consideration. ;)

American Maid

10-25-2012, 03:26 PM

Just to try and get back to the subject of the thread, since it's now a bit hijacked (sorry).

Oh yeah. . . forgot about that. . . .Well, I'm party to that too--sorry! :yay:

I want to find out why he has not now been given Asgard, (if that's the case) now that he seems to have proven himself worthy.

That would be very good to have explained! (Although it may be that he's only so far proven himself worthy of Mjolnir, and has more to prove before he can get back to his coronation.) If he's not yet ready to assume the throne, it might be interesting to see what thoughts he has about where Asgard is heading and what he sees his priorities being once he is monarch. Perhaps Odin might ask for his input on some things to test how his thinking is coming along in that regard. I wonder if they might disagree on something?

Sif/Thor - 'nuff said. :)

Well, probably everyone knows where I stand on that haha :yay:

It would be nice to see some interaction between him and his mother.

Also, in the books, the Warriors Three are supposed to be of an older cohort, and kind of mentor Thor when he is younger. I kind of get the impression in the films that they are peers. Either way, it might be fun to see their friendship (and to have it made clearer whether or not they are older than Thor).

I like the idea that Thor enjoys going drinking with his buddies and generally having fun, but I suppose that's not going to fit into a film subtitled "The Dark World" :csad:

Of course, I will enjoy the great spectacles of well-done fight sequences. Others have expounded in other threads on what should go into them much better than I can.

Edit: and thank you for your thoughts American Maid, I will take them into consideration. ;)

You're welcome!

BigThor

10-25-2012, 05:06 PM

I have the impression that it's rather rare for Captain America to pick up Mjolnir. So for me it's very optional whether we ever see it in any of the movies. Maybe if there was an especially dire need, unusual circumstances.

Otherwise, it's likely to undercut the perception of Thor.

Exactly, I'd prefer that being left out of the films and if he just HAS to do it I'd wait until Avengers 3.

jaqua99

10-25-2012, 08:40 PM

Nope. And honestly I hesitate to start, at least not until after the films as a series are done. I've observed over the years with already established fandoms like this one that oftentimes those established book/comic fans appear to have a great deal of difficulty just letting go of preconceived notions and sitting down and enjoying the movies for what they are. Some can I am sure but at least some (usually the most vocal) seem unable to enjoy the film versions fully because they are too upset that such and such wasnt represented the way they see them, or a character they like isn't there at all, or they didnt tell the story exactly the way they read it the first time. So they think and often say on the internet that it sucks and I hate this character and I hate that about the films and get snarky or testy with anyone who appears to be enjoying those aspects of the films that they are mad about. It is sad, but I've seen and to a much lesser extent been in that type of frame of mind before enough and I don't particularly want to end up once again feeling that way going into theaters or coming on the internet to chat. Like I said, maybe after the series are done, and the hype has died down, it will be a good way to extend enjoyment of the characters. But I've always been more of a film buff in any case.

...you are referring to me and my comments on loki :P

Just to try and get back to the subject of the thread, since it's now a bit hijacked (sorry). I'll ask what I asked in the another character thread. What do you want to see for Thor in Thor 2?

Definitely want another flashback with Thor and Loki as Teens/kids, showing their relationship growing up.

Would love to see or at least hear how he won Mjolnir in the first place. How old was he, and after what great triumph was he presented with it.

More on his relationship with Odin now after the events of Thor and Avengers. Plus I want to find out why he has not now been given Asgard, (if that's the case) now that he seems to have proven himself worthy.

Sif/Thor - 'nuff said. :)

that's all for now for me, anybody else?

Edit: and thank you for your thoughts American Maid, I will take them into consideration. ;)

"have at thee"

or a mcu modification

"have at you"

and a flashback of atleast 400 years ago of Thor in battle

Exactly, I'd prefer that being left out of the films and if he just HAS to do it I'd wait until Avengers 3.

yup, if it has to happen, in a later avengers movie. Let it stay to thor for now, let it actually become more of a part of him

Bren

10-26-2012, 12:20 PM

If CA does ever pick up Mjolnir, I'd like him to hit away a couple enemies, then hand it back to Thor commenting, "too much power for a mortal"...

Regarding Thor ruling Asgard; I hope the decision for this film is that Odin rules based on Thor being too committed to Earth, and Thor understands and the whole issue ending amicably. I'd hate to see their good ending in Thor ruined.

elizah72

10-26-2012, 03:32 PM

Just a quick little bit where the guys are discussing Mjolnir with Thor, and the "if he be worthy" thing, and maybe Hawkeye, Stark, Banner, can't resist trying to pick it up to no avail. Then Cap just walks in like, "Hey, how heavy is this thing anyway?" *Picks it up* "Oh, not bad." hands it back to Thor and walks off. LOL I dont know I think that would be cute to see he looks on everyone's faces.

herolee10

10-26-2012, 08:54 PM

If it's true that one of the plot points in this film is Thor gathering or amassing a Army to combat against the Dark Elves, I kind of hope to see the leadership that Thor is supposed to have displayed in the film and him giving a good leadership speech to his soldiers (ala Aragorn to the Army of Gondor) and him really commanding his army like a great General/King-to-be in the final fight.

Given that the first film had to deal with Thor learning to get over his own arrogance, I hope with this film, we get to see Thor's authority as a Prince of Asgard really being shown here.

Webfoot Hero

10-26-2012, 09:30 PM

American Maid

10-26-2012, 10:54 PM

herolee10

10-27-2012, 12:40 AM

metaphysician

10-27-2012, 11:28 AM

Well, if he's smart, he would make sure to open with such a move before his comrades have closed for combat. However, that is dependent both on his own cool-headedness, and circumstances of the battle. I would not be shocked if, amongst the more canny and experienced races, standard battlefield tactics includes "rapidly close with the enemy" *specifically* to prevent crap like that from being done ( I doubt Thor is the only guy running around the Nine Worlds with area nukes ).

elizah72

11-01-2012, 07:01 PM

Saw this on tumblr, don't think I realized this about the Avengers armor... it's interesting (if that's in fact what's etched on the vambrace - which it looks like it is):

Just going back to this a second. I was a bit skeptical at first that there was a Loki symbol there in Avengers (the pictures you had I couldn't see it that well) but I think it's pretty clear in the closeup of the vambrace here...

http://rebloggy.com/post/chris-hemsworth-thor-loki-avengers-brb-crying-it-s-real-there-s-a-loki-tribute-i/28856758768

BigThor

11-01-2012, 11:28 PM

If Thor goes into a large battle, I don't see why he doesn't try to wipe out a good majority of the opposing force with a large lightning strike and/or shock wave (like on Jotunheim) to end it quick and somewhat easy.

If his soldiers and comrades are in the midst of the battle then I don't see him doing it since he'd end up killing his own forces from using such attacks.

It kind of Sucks that a lot of the things that Thor could do are only things that he'd be able to do if he were in a area from civilization since a lot of his attacks can give out huge collateral damage.

Well, if he's smart, he would make sure to open with such a move before his comrades have closed for combat. However, that is dependent both on his own cool-headedness, and circumstances of the battle. I would not be shocked if, amongst the more canny and experienced races, standard battlefield tactics includes "rapidly close with the enemy" *specifically* to prevent crap like that from being done ( I doubt Thor is the only guy running around the Nine Worlds with area nukes ).

I still think Thor is going to pull out more huge area attacks in Thor 2, he might yell "clear the area" or something right before he unleashes it.

jaqua99

11-01-2012, 11:40 PM

I still think Thor is going to pull out more huge area attacks in Thor 2, he might yell "clear the area" or something right before he unleashes it.

Ya. Or he may just do it when there isn't others around.

Idk, I feel like when it comes to a big battle, aside from one or two attacks, it will be like what we saw in the frost giant battle. A lot of hitting and throwing, and not so much weather related stuff

BigThor

11-03-2012, 02:24 AM

Ya. Or he may just do it when there isn't others around.

Idk, I feel like when it comes to a big battle, aside from one or two attacks, it will be like what we saw in the frost giant battle. A lot of hitting and throwing, and not so much weather related stuff

Yeah I think so too, I won't really mind if Thor throws a few punches and super powered body slams.

herolee10

11-03-2012, 02:29 AM

Yeah I think so too, I won't really mind if Thor throws a few punches and super powered body slams.

And thankfully this time around, I don't think anyone has to worry about getting Frostbites from making physical contact with the enemy as well.

If "Man of Steel" didn't already do it, given that we may have some Fire Demons present within "Thor 2", I would have loved to have seen a shot where the demons shoot intense flames at Thor's body, only for Thor's body to be covered in flames and yet for him to show no signs of being affected by them.

herolee10

11-04-2012, 12:05 AM

xeno000

11-04-2012, 12:32 AM

Also, another thing that I hope for is that by the end of this film, they have Thor realize that he needs to be on Earth more often and not just go there whenever a universal threat takes place there. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but Loki made a interesting comment to Thor back in "The Avengers" where Loki rebuked Thor's claim to Earth being under his protection with humanity itself was destroying themselves from their own actions.

As much as Thor wants to be Earth's protector and champion, he can hardly hope to prevent humanity from engaging in conflict and war without resorting to the sort of dictatorial rule Loki attempted. Nor, truly, would Thor want to force humans to behave as he wished. His goal is to protect the Earth from massive threats it cannot withstand, such as Loki's own army invading from space. That was Thor's point when he said, "Then you miss the truth of ruling, brother. Throne would suit you ill." Thor is a protector, not a dictator, something Loki cannot understand.

jaqua99

11-04-2012, 12:54 AM

and if you read the Thor: Lord of Midgard arc, thor learned that the hard way :)

I loved that arc

I am currently reading siege, I have never read it in its entirety. Can't believe it

BigThor

11-04-2012, 01:20 AM

And thankfully this time around, I don't think anyone has to worry about getting Frostbites from making physical contact with the enemy as well.

If "Man of Steel" didn't already do it, given that we may have some Fire Demons present within "Thor 2", I would have loved to have seen a shot where the demons shoot intense flames at Thor's body, only for Thor's body to be covered in flames and yet for him to show no signs of being affected by them.

That would be SPECTACULAR, I would literally jump out of my seat and scream "DAMNNNNNN!".

herolee10

11-04-2012, 02:09 AM

As much as Thor wants to be Earth's protector and champion, he can hardly hope to prevent humanity from engaging in conflict and war without resorting to the sort of dictatorial rule Loki attempted. Nor, truly, would Thor want to force humans to behave as he wished. His goal is to protect the Earth from massive threats it cannot withstand, such as Loki's own army invading from space. That was Thor's point when he said, "Then you miss the truth of ruling, brother. Throne would suit you ill." Thor is a protector, not a dictator, something Loki cannot understand.

And I agree with that; I just meant that it wouldn't hurt for Earth to have Thor on it more often since I'm sure there would be Earth Based disasters or events that could use Thor's abilities to help prevent it without Thor crossing a line of becoming a dictator like being.

I mean case in point, if Odin had known about how much trouble the Cube was back on Earth during Steve Rogers time in the 40's, where people like Hydra were using it to start wars and such, then shouldn't it have been Odin's responsibility to retrieve the cube back then in order to avoid further bloodshed?

So I'm just getting that without overdoing it, Thor could be on Earth more often instead of just only appearing when the big bad things happen from outside of it.

American Maid

11-04-2012, 10:06 AM

As much as Thor wants to be Earth's protector and champion, he can hardly hope to prevent humanity from engaging in conflict and war without resorting to the sort of dictatorial rule Loki attempted. Nor, truly, would Thor want to force humans to behave as he wished. His goal is to protect the Earth from massive threats it cannot withstand, such as Loki's own army invading from space. That was Thor's point when he said, "Then you miss the truth of ruling, brother. Throne would suit you ill." Thor is a protector, not a dictator, something Loki cannot understand.

I agree. It's good for Earth's growth to tackle its own problems to the extent it can, with Thor there to assist if threats emerge that are beyond Earth's current capability.

That could also possibly be a reason why he doesn't exercise his full power when fighting alongside the rest of the Avengers, and let some of the others appear to be the key members. He's not trying to do the task for them, but rather keep everyone from being overwhelmed.

jaqua99

11-04-2012, 10:24 AM

And I agree with that; I just meant that it wouldn't hurt for Earth to have Thor on it more often since I'm sure there would be Earth Based disasters or events that could use Thor's abilities to help prevent it without Thor crossing a line of becoming a dictator like being.

I mean case in point, if Odin had known about how much trouble the Cube was back on Earth during Steve Rogers time in the 40's, where people like Hydra were using it to start wars and such, then shouldn't it have been Odin's responsibility to retrieve the cube back then in order to avoid further bloodshed?

So I'm just getting that without overdoing it, Thor could be on Earth more often instead of just only appearing when the big bad things happen from outside of it.

Ya. But at that point I would think he has to have the power to open portals at that point

I agree. It's good for Earth's growth to tackle its own problems to the extent it can, with Thor there to assist if threats emerge that are beyond Earth's current capability.

That could also possibly be a reason why he doesn't exercise his full power when fighting alongside the rest of the Avengers, and let some of the others appear to be the key members. He's not trying to do the task for them, but rather keep everyone from being overwhelmed.

and simply not wanting to harm others...like in the hulk fight.

The only time we really saw Thor kind of cutting loose was in the frost giant fight. And when he destroyed what seemed like a city size landscape. A feat which, in my opinion, is the biggest display of power we have seen, and has yet to be matched by anyone in the MCU so far. I feel like that's over looked, he destroyed a city size land scape in one hit.

Honestly, if he cuts loose and fights like that, Thor may be able to hold his own against the other avengers combined lol

American Maid

11-04-2012, 12:24 PM

and simply not wanting to harm others...like in the hulk fight.

Yes, certainly. I was thinking of all the Avengers facing an external enemy, Thor letting the others taking the lead and looking like the primary heroes. But at least for part of the Hulk fight, he's still trying to talk Banner down.

The only time we really saw Thor kind of cutting loose was in the frost giant fight. And when he destroyed what seemed like a city size landscape. A feat which, in my opinion, is the biggest display of power we have seen, and has yet to be matched by anyone in the MCU so far. I feel like that's over looked, he destroyed a city size land scape in one hit.

Honestly, if he cuts loose and fights like that, Thor may be able to hold his own against the other avengers combined lol

Naturally! lol

Yeah, I hope we get big feats like that! And big craters!

BigThor

11-06-2012, 02:15 PM

Naturally! lol

Yeah, I hope we get big feats like that! And big craters!

Hell yes, nothing says "super strength" like craters being created from your attacks.

jaqua99

11-06-2012, 05:24 PM

Hell yes, nothing says "super strength" like craters being created from your attacks.

and as you are about to say...one like at 2:22 into that blade and dracula fight, right? :word:

BigThor

11-06-2012, 08:39 PM

and as you are about to say...one like at 2:22 into that blade and dracula fight, right? :word:

Nah I believe I've said that enough, but yeah hopefully craters like that one.

American Maid

11-06-2012, 08:56 PM

Nah I believe I said that enough, but yeah hopefully craters like that one.

Such a crater would be acceptable.

steintym

11-06-2012, 09:12 PM

jaqua99

11-07-2012, 01:47 AM

Nah I believe I said that enough, but yeah hopefully craters like that one.

I know, just messin with ya

BigThor

11-07-2012, 11:53 AM

I think they'll continue to up the action and physical displays. They established things in the first movie and showed some new tricks in The Avengers. The ground work is there to really open things up now and I think they will.

Yep Thor had far more pure strength feats in TA, hell before TA people were doubting MCU Thor's strength was Spider-Man level.

herolee10

11-08-2012, 04:51 AM

If the rumors about Thor gathering a army from the 9 realms is true, can't wait to see on how they play on Thor's ability to actually conduct a form of diplomacy from a Royal Standpoint on film.

Thor should definitely be allowed to give some heroic/motivating general/leader-like speech to his soldiers as they go off into the battlefield; something like Aragorn's one in ROTK

American Maid

11-08-2012, 07:17 AM

elizah72

11-08-2012, 07:53 AM

Yes on both those items!! I would really love to see that.

Hopefully he took a few notes on leadership from Cap in Avengers. ;)

American Maid

11-08-2012, 08:02 AM

Hopefully he took a few notes on leadership from Cap in Avengers. ;)

Thor respects Captain America. And as the group has discussed . . . somewhere, Cap is the rare person who is worthy of lifting Mjolnir. There's a quote that says Thor would follow him through the gates of Hades. :yay:

violetspike123

11-08-2012, 12:38 PM

MCU needs more power punches.

BigThor

11-08-2012, 06:48 PM

MCU needs more power punches.

Very true, Hulk himself doesn't even have many so I wouldn't hold my breath for anyone else performing them.

violetspike123

11-09-2012, 12:09 AM

I remember when Ironman punched that terrorist in the his first movie and he went flying, It was so awesome.

violetspike123

11-09-2012, 12:11 AM

Does anyone think it was bs that Ironman didn't get fried when he fought Thor.

jaqua99

11-09-2012, 12:41 AM

nah. He got powered up 400. They needed some PIS so Thor wouldnt demolish him "{

BigThor

11-09-2012, 12:44 AM

^ Yeah it was PIS imo, since Iron Man's armors runs on repulsor energy not electricity.

Besides even if it did, this is lightning summoned by The God of Thunder of all people.

American Maid

11-09-2012, 09:07 AM

Does anyone think it was bs that Ironman didn't get fried when he fought Thor.

That Stark did not get electrocuted is actually quite plausible; the suit would act like a Faraday cage. Planes allow lightning strikes to route through the fuselage. It might be that his suit really ought to have a spike on it for the discharge, but that's a relatively minor detail. (While I previously have asserted that the processors should have been smoked, avionics typically have surge suppressors, etc. So now I'm willing to give him that one. Unless there's the failure I describe below :yay:)

What's more of a stretch in my mind is the idea that Stark would have designed the suit to have the capacity for 400% of the suit's rating. It's suboptimal engineering practice. Energy storage means mass (just look in the trunk and under the chassis of any electric or hybrid vehicle) and weight, and weight costs you a lot of energy when you're flying around at below-orbit altitudes (most of the volume of the Saturn V or the shuttle was for fuel for the first small fraction (forget what) of the launch). Engineering is always about tradeoffs, and if he wouldn't normally use the energy (ie, capacity well over 100%), he shouldn't be burdening his suit with having to haul the capacitors around all over everywhere. (And where are those capacitors anyway? Behind his calves?) So he shouldn't have the spare capacity available to be charged up to 400%.

The other gift from the writers is the power bus that they apparently wrote into his suit that would be involved in such a charging system. The energy in a lightning strike is far, far more than whatever 400% of the suit rating is. So if he taps some of it to charge the suit, the rest has to be shunted to ground in a proportion that the charging system could handle. (So this is the part where Jarvis bites it.) But the lightning strike could well overwhelm the path to the capacitors. No one has developed a ground-based system to capture energy from lightning strikes, for example.

So if the charging system gets overwhelmed, then he really does become a man in a metal suit.

And that's just the first lightning strike.

Smashlilman

11-09-2012, 09:57 AM

^ Yeah it was PIS imo, since Iron Man's armors runs on repulsor energy not electricity.

Besides even if it did, this is lightning summoned by The God of Thunder of all people.

The suite uses the repulsor energy to create the electricity it needs to run.

What if after Iron fought Whiplash he upgraded his suit to absorb external sources of electricity instead of starting to short circuit like it did in Ironman 2. In the Ironman Extremis comic mallen short circuited Ironman and Ironman had to absorb the ambient heat around him to give his suit a 1% boost in power.

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American Maid

11-09-2012, 06:54 PM

What if after Iron fought Whiplash he upgraded his suit to absorb external sources of electricity instead of starting to short circuit like it did in Ironman 2. In the Ironman Extremis comic mallen short circuited Ironman and Ironman had to absorb the ambient heat around him to give his suit a 1% boost in power.

In the Whiplash clip, it looks like they are trying to represent the flickering you get on your residential lights during a thunderstorm. That flickering results from the interplay of various safety devices throughout the hundreds-of-miles-network activating and then resetting in an attempt to see if the problem was a temporary fault, now cleared. There really wouldn't be an analogous network throughout Iron Man's suit. But it may be that he decides that he should have better paths straight to ground in the event of an external zap.

The other possibility is that they are trying to show some electromagnetic interference (which, come to think of it, is another way Thor can mess with him in the future). So he might upgrade the EMI shielding on the suit. That's plausible.

I wasn't able to find any information about the nature of Mallen's power, other than he can "project arcs of electricity from his hands", which is reflected in the clip you posted.

But "arcs of electricity from his hands" sounds like it would be orders of magnitude less power than a bolt of lightning. So it seems likely to me that even if Stark redesigned his suit to be able to siphon off power during an attack like what we saw Mallen make, it would not mean the suit would be able to do the same with a lightning bolt. I think it would still be too overwhelming.

Now, if he doesn't try to tap the power to recharge himself (and again, it doesn't make sense for him to be hauling around a bunch of storage devices that he ordinarily wouldn't use), he's likely to be okay. It's possible that there isn't enough metal in the suit to route the discharge around him through the suit and to ground (which is what happens with planes). But since he's one of Earth's Mightiest Heroes and they kind of want to keep him around, I'll assume he could survive a direct lightning strike. That's not too much of an assist from the writers.

Transforming heat into electricity while pinned under a car. . .that's a bit more fanciful. He needs some McGuffins from the writers installed into his suit for that.

violetspike123

11-10-2012, 05:50 AM

If Captain America hadn't broken up the fight between Ironman and Thor who do you think would have won. My money's own The God of Thunder.

Bren

11-10-2012, 06:01 AM

I think that was obvious. Gauntlets crumpled, helmet dinged and that was Thor only starting to get a bit annoyed...

The 'Thor hitting CA' irritated me. How did Thor know it was vibranium, his blow was to all intent and purposes a death strike.

violetspike123

11-10-2012, 06:43 AM

elizah72

11-10-2012, 07:01 AM

Now that you mention it that seems a little out of character.

Well I'm not sure that it is so out of character with Thor of early Thor 1 to be so brash . So he's changed, but not *that* much. Still has a temper. ;)

He also gets a smile when he gets hit and bleeds by Hulk in the hanger, still likes a fight, especially if it's a "challenge" (remember the "that's more like it" line in the Frost giants battle, that's the look he had on his face there).

so with that note, that may be part of the reason why Odin has not handed over the throne yet, he's learned a lot from his exile but still has much to learn.

and how dare he try to *nail* Cap!!! :p

violetspike123

11-10-2012, 07:56 AM

That makes sense.

American Maid

11-10-2012, 07:56 AM

Well I'm not sure that it is so out of character with Thor of early Thor 1 to be so brash . So he's changed, but not *that* much. Still has a temper. ;)
.. .
so with that note, that may be part of the reason why Odin has not handed over the throne yet, he's learned a lot from his exile but still has much to learn.

My take on that was that they weren't trying to provide some insight as to his readiness for the throne but rather have a little bit of fun with something that I'm sure some fans have discussed on some message board somewhere: what would happen if Mjolnir connected with vibranium?

Within the context of the story, Thor does not know going into the strike what the vibranium would do, but he certainly would know what Mjolnir would do. So it does kind of seem like he's trying to do significant damage to Midgardians who have thus far shown themselves only to be nuisances, not threats. That does seem out of character to me, especially since he just got done telling Loki how much he loves Midgard. And Loki's scepter isn't around in that scene to explain the departure.

He also gets a smile when he gets hit and bleeds by Hulk in the hanger, still likes a fight, especially if it's a "challenge" (remember the "that's more like it" line in the Frost giants battle, that's the look he had on his face there).

I do like that aspect of his character. Another example from Thor1: "You're big. Fought bigger!"

metaphysician

11-10-2012, 11:52 AM

Does anyone think it was bs that Ironman didn't get fried when he fought Thor.

Its a bit of a deus ex machina, but its a comic appropriate one: one of Tony's regular tricks in the comics when outmatched is "absorb energy from the opponent's attacks."

jaqua99

11-10-2012, 02:08 PM

My take on that was that they weren't trying to provide some insight as to his readiness for the throne but rather have a little bit of fun with something that I'm sure some fans have discussed on some message board somewhere: what would happen if Mjolnir connected with vibranium?

Within the context of the story, Thor does not know going into the strike what the vibranium would do, but he certainly would know what Mjolnir would do. So it does kind of seem like he's trying to do significant damage to Midgardians who have thus far shown themselves only to be nuisances, not threats. That does seem out of character to me, especially since he just got done telling Loki how much he loves Midgard. And Loki's scepter isn't around in that scene to explain the departure.

I do like that aspect of his character. Another example from Thor1: "You're big. Fought bigger!"

and boom goes the dynamite

violetspike123

11-12-2012, 06:49 AM

I hope they introduce or mention the other pantheons.(Olympians,etc)

jaqua99

11-12-2012, 11:11 AM

I hope they introduce or mention the other pantheons.(Olympians,etc)

no reason for them to do so. That'd be really cool though. I'd like to see hercules and thor spar

violetspike123

11-13-2012, 02:17 PM

yeah herucles vs thor.

Vartha

11-13-2012, 03:27 PM

the HERCUTHOR and THORCULES was some awesome stuff man lol tho how you'd transfer written sound effects to live action is something else.

BoredGuy

11-13-2012, 03:41 PM

jaqua99

11-13-2012, 06:48 PM

After Iron Man put up a pretty good fight in the forest, my assumption was that Thor knew he was battling people more powerful than regular midgardians. He probably thought Cap would be just as powerful as IM.

seemed to me like he was going for a knockout blow, not a death strike

Idk. He was definitally Testing ironman out. Cause ironman held his own. At the end of the fight, thor looked *annoyed* and started crushing his armor, dropping him to the ground in 2 punches and stuff.

steintym

11-13-2012, 08:29 PM

After Iron Man put up a pretty good fight in the forest, my assumption was that Thor knew he was battling people more powerful than regular midgardians. He probably thought Cap would be just as powerful as IM.

That's pretty much what I thought as well. Plus, as far as Thor knew, they were able to take down Loki, so they had to have some level of power.

Rock Sexton

11-13-2012, 08:54 PM

That's pretty much what I thought as well. Plus, as far as Thor knew, they were able to take down Loki, so they had to have some level of power.

Actually he said they didn't know what they were dealing with ..... so Thor definitely wasn't assuming that.

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 12:05 AM

Actually he said they didn't know what they were dealing with ..... so Thor definitely wasn't assuming that.

And they didn't.

Nor does Thor.

Hell, Loki has a better idea on the tesseract than any of them

American Maid

11-14-2012, 08:19 AM

And they didn't.

Nor does Thor.

Hell, Loki has a better idea on the tesseract than any of them

You don't think Odin would have briefed Thor about the power of the Tesseract before he sent him down to Midgard?

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 11:05 AM

You don't think Odin would have briefed Thor about the power of the Tesseract before he sent him down to Midgard?

yeah I suppose he could have.

But regarding Cap and Ironman, they certainly didn't. As far as they knew it was a source of unlimmited sustanable energy

elizah72

11-14-2012, 02:06 PM

Rock Sexton

11-14-2012, 02:31 PM

elizah72

11-14-2012, 02:39 PM

No.

Stark said "then don't take my stuff" ..... he was referring to Loki because Thor nabbed him from the Quinjet. That's when Thor responded that Stark didn't know what he was dealing with aka Loki.

same difference I guess... either way not about the Tesseract. And now that I'm rereading the last few posts, I think something got confused in this conversation somehow. LOL

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 07:25 PM

I believe the quote to Tony when they first battle on the mountain (if that's what is being referred to here) indicated that Thor was saying that TONY didnt know what he was dealing with (meaning in messing with him and trying to stop him from taking Loki, nothing to do with the Tesseract.)

Thor: Do not touch me again.
Tony Stark: Then don't take my stuff.
Thor: You have no idea what you're dealing with.

unless you are referring to another line I can't think of at the moment.

No.

Stark said "then don't take my stuff" ..... he was referring to Loki because Thor nabbed him from the Quinjet. That's when Thor responded that Stark didn't know what he was dealing with aka Loki.

same difference I guess... either way not about the Tesseract. And now that I'm rereading the last few posts, I think something got confused in this conversation somehow. LOL

ya. I wasn't refferring to a quote haha.

I took Stark's comment, was about Loki. Since Thor took him off the quinjet.

Thor's response, you have no idea what you are dealing with, to me, that was about the whole situation, not just Loki. Loki, and what he plans on doing with the tesseract.

My opinion on stark and cap not knowing much about the tesseract has nothing to do with stark and thor's conversation.

I was just refferring to what they ultimately learned about it.

They still don't know WHAT power it is capable of. Nor do we. All we know, is that a mad alien warlord (Thanos) wanted it, and Loki said, "I have seen the true power of the tesseract, and when I wield it-" then thor cut him off..So personally I think in terms of power, and what it is capable of, there is probably more to the tesseract than just being a portal, and a power source. Sorry for not explaining that in my other post, it was late, I was tired lol.

Though, do you guys think Thor knows who Thanos is?

"I have seen the true power of the tesseract, and when I wield it-"

thor cut him off with "Who showed you this power?"

There was some concern in his voice. It wasn't a "I want to know who manipulated my brother" voice,

it was more of a "I have someone in mind, and I hope to god he isn't the one who showed you this" voice

I think we may find out that Odin has had a throw down in the past with Thanos, to which, he told his son, hence Thor's concern in his voice...this would also again support the theory that Odin has taken the IG from Thanos

American Maid

11-14-2012, 07:59 PM

Though, do you guys think Thor knows who Thanos is?

"I have seen the true power of the tesseract, and when I wield it-"

thor cut him off with "Who showed you this power?"

There was some concern in his voice. It wasn't a "I want to know who manipulated my brother" voice,

it was more of a "I have someone in mind, and I hope to god he isn't the one who showed you this" voice

I think we may find out that Odin has had a throw down in the past with Thanos, to which, he told his son, hence Thor's concern in his voice...this would also again support the theory that Odin has taken the IG from Thanos

Hmmm, good questions!

I imagine Odin has been briefing Thor about the various potential trouble spots in the universe--part of his continuing efforts to groom him to be king. It's possible Thor had several someones in mind and hoped that it wasn't any of them that manipulated his brother. Assuming Thanos ranks in, say, the top 10 universal threats, then I would say yeah, he does know who he is.

Has Odin tangled with Thanos in the books? (Aside from anything in the Simonson arc, I mean) The only reference I could dig up was some story line where Thor goes insane (which I don't suppose they are going to do here :yay:)

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 08:37 PM

Hmmm, good questions!

I imagine Odin has been briefing Thor about the various potential trouble spots in the universe--part of his continuing efforts to groom him to be king. It's possible Thor had several someones in mind and hoped that it wasn't any of them that manipulated his brother. Assuming Thanos ranks in, say, the top 10 universal threats, then I would say yeah, he does know who he is.

Has Odin tangled with Thanos in the books? (Aside from anything in the Simonson arc, I mean) The only reference I could dig up was some story line where Thor goes insane (which I don't suppose they are going to do here :yay:)

Oh, given the fact that Thanos has literally destroyed the MU in the comics, i think it's safe to say, even his MCU counterpart is certainly a massive universal threat.

And Odin is no match for Thanos with the IG, way out of his league.

Though without it, he is a little to much I'd say.

The only time I can recall them tangling was during blood and thunder..I THINK..not too sure when it was..

but the fight consisted of thanos blasting odin, and it doing nothing to odin. Odin blasting thanos off his feet. Thanos gets up, speaks, odin blasts him, knocks him back, and down again. Thanos gets up, Thanos' attacks were pretty ineffective.. Odin blasts him, thanos waded through a concentrated blast, only to walk up to Odin. I don't remember what happened after that, but Odin blasted Thanos away again. And he was down. Odin complimented him as a worthy adversary and one of his toughest fights in a while, and asked him if he yields (something like that)

Thanos slowly rises to his feet, and says no. Odin goes wide eyed, then warlock and whoever else show up and explain to Odin that they needed his help.

Thanos didn't really have anything for Odin, he WAS taking Odin's attacks without his shield I THINK...but he didn't have enough power to really bother Odin.

He did as good against Odin as someone who isn't another skyfather could do, in my humble opinion. Though, thanos has been upgraded since then, and I think he would be able to hurt odin, but not enough to defeat him.

But generally Odin>Thanos

Though in the MCU i'd bet it will be the other way around, even without the IG

herolee10

11-14-2012, 08:42 PM

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 09:05 PM

That is the tricky thing isn't it? Especially if Surtur is to appear in the third Thor film and be the one that ends up being responsible for Odin's death. I mean how do you go about establishing Thanos as a threat requiring all of the avengers if Odin could just confront with the guy himself but not have the Avengers there if Surtur is strong enough to kill Odin?

you mean, how do they make thanos a legitimate threat? When Odin is more powerfuul, and in turn, Surtur is more powerful than Odin?

By simply making Thanos more powerful than Odin. With a mind.

Which is why it makes sense to possibly have the whole surtur arc done

American Maid

11-14-2012, 09:12 PM

you mean, how do they make thanos a legitimate threat? When Odin is more powerfuul, and in turn, Surtur is more powerful than Odin?

By simply making Thanos more powerful than Odin. With a mind.

Which is why it makes sense to possibly have the whole surtur arc done

Yeah, I was thinking about that. Maybe they have Surtur kill Odin per the Simonson arc before Thanos moves on Earth (and, I guess, the rest of the universe)

herolee10

11-14-2012, 09:34 PM

Well this will all depend on when Thanos is used as a main antagonist for the Avengers and with Guardians of the Galaxy set to debut before the next Avengers film along with the possibility that Thanos will be first better established in that film, that makes me think that Thanos will be a force to be actively reckoned with in the upcoming Avengers Sequel.

Plus, I personally still don't think that we'll have Surtur as the main villain for Thor 2 and that he'll be fully revealed and used in Thor 3.

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 09:46 PM

BigThor

11-14-2012, 09:52 PM

Thanos doesn't have to be more powerful than Odin to be a threat, because The Avengers are nowhere near Odin's level of power.

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 09:57 PM

Thanos doesn't have to be more powerful than Odin to be a threat, because The Avengers are nowhere near Odin's level of power.

No, he doesn't. But his point is that if he is someone Odin can handle, why wouldn't Odin just handle it? and if Surtur is even MORE powerful than Odin, killing him, who is in turn far more powerful than Thanos, how can Thanos be considered a legitimate threat if Odin can stop him, along with there being a being powerful enough to kill Odin as well? Not to mention, said being (surtur) wants to destroy the 9 realms. Something Thanos has in mind as well. I think that is the conflict here.

herolee10

11-14-2012, 09:57 PM

Personally, I think Thanos will be around for a whiile..Surtur will atleast have a presence. We'll see. I think he is saved for 3 as well. But the synopsis proves otherwise

I think it's possible that Surtur will have the same presence in TDW that Thanos had in the first Avengers film where his presence and his involvement with the presented main villain of Thor 2 will have a strong influence on what happens and how the villains are motivated in doing what they do.

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 10:06 PM

I think it's possible that Surtur will have the same presence in TDW that Thanos had in the first Avengers film where his presence and his involvement with the presented main villain of Thor 2 will have a strong influence on what happens and how the villains are motivated in doing what they do.

Yeah. Though, I think there will be a bit of a heavier influence. I personally think Surtur may actually have lines in this movie. I am onboard with Surtur being the one to turn Algrim into Kurse. Certainly if they show it happen, they can give this..mystery guy a voice without showing him.

Though I think he will be mentioned by name in the movie.

Only to appear in an after credit scene like this, this is how I see an after credit scene setting up a movie based off the surtur arc from the simonson run:

Its dark..we hear a bang, about 5 or 6 seconds later we hear another bang. Now in this HUGE area, there is fire around, but its not bright enough to see what is in the middle, however we can see a large sillhouette, he is hitting something with a hammer, like he is welding something. It takes say...15 seconds for the camera to make its way to this area, we then see this sillhoutte strike with the hammer 2 or 3 times, the sound of the welding is loud. He then puts down the hammer, and picks up a giant sword, as the sword becomes engulfed in flames, we see the head of this giant being being become engulfed in flames as well, revealing horns, the flames light him up, and we see a read body, though the entire scene is from the back of him, it becomes light enough for anyone to tell that this is the fire demon (hopefully) referenced earlier in the film :D

American Maid

11-14-2012, 10:15 PM

Its dark..we hear a bang, about 5 or 6 seconds later we hear another bang. Now in this HUGE area, there is fire around, but its not bright enough to see what is in the middle, however we can see a large sillhouette, he is hitting something with a hammer, like he is welding something. It takes say...15 seconds for the camera to make its way to this area, we then see this sillhoutte strike with the hammer 2 or 3 times, the sound of the welding is loud. He then puts down the hammer, and picks up a giant sword, as the sword becomes engulfed in flames, we see the head of this giant being being become engulfed in flames as well, revealing horns, the flames light him up, and we see a read body, though the entire scene is from the back of him, it becomes light enough for anyone to tell that this is the fire demon (hopefully) referenced earlier in the film :D

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woot:

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 10:27 PM

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woot:

is that the sound of the welding!?

herolee10

11-14-2012, 11:31 PM

jaqua99

11-14-2012, 11:47 PM

On a side note, with the new batch of photos showing Chris as Thor in England, I believe this will be the first time where we've seen Thor with actual scratches and blood shown on his face while he's fully powered. Now, the Hulk did give him a nosebleed but it was small and Thor wiped it away easily and while Loki did stab him, we never saw the wound after he had taken out the knife.

yeah. I don't think dark elves are capable of doing that to him. It very well may be against Kurse.

You know something, I may go far ahead and say thor in the mcu may very well be more durable than hulk.

Or atleast, pound for pound, he is definitally more durable

herolee10

11-14-2012, 11:55 PM

yeah. I don't think dark elves are capable of doing that to him. It very well may be against Kurse.

You know something, I may go far ahead and say thor in the mcu may very well be more durable than hulk.

Or atleast, pound for pound, he is definitally more durable

Well Thor is definitely the strongest "reliable" hero within the MCU. Heck, even though the Hulk proved his valor as a hero and valuable member for the team, I think that if SHIELD had to choose between the two on who they'd feel more comfortable working with, it would definitely be Thor.

Plus, Thor's really the only hero that has not been taken to his absolute physical limits yet which can't be said for the other heroes.

jaqua99

11-15-2012, 12:06 AM

Well Thor is definitely the strongest "reliable" hero within the MCU. Heck, even though the Hulk proved his valor as a hero and valuable member for the team, I think that if SHIELD had to choose between the two on who they'd feel more comfortable working with, it would definitely be Thor.

Plus, Thor's really the only hero that has not been taken to his absolute physical limits yet which can't be said for the other heroes.

Yeah, apparently a pissed off Hulk in the carrier isn't it, which says a lot for his durability.

i watched the fight between the two in slow motion, and if you relly slow down and watch it, it becomes clear how clumbsy Hulk is. That first punch the throws at thor, thor dodges it, and hulk almost fell when his punch didn't connect, his back was to thor for a second, after thor hit him, hulk just flailed his arms before thor caught his punch

BigThor

11-15-2012, 01:42 AM

elizah72

11-15-2012, 06:13 AM

I don't want those scratches to be from average Dark Elves either, I want them to be from Kurse himself.

Naaahhhh... it was probably just-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/shakespeares_sister/surprisedkitty.jpg

xeno000

11-15-2012, 06:23 AM

Yeah, apparently a pissed off Hulk in the carrier isn't it, which says a lot for his durability.

i watched the fight between the two in slow motion, and if you relly slow down and watch it, it becomes clear how clumbsy Hulk is. That first punch the throws at thor, thor dodges it, and hulk almost fell when his punch didn't connect, his back was to thor for a second, after thor hit him, hulk just flailed his arms before thor caught his punch

The difference there is that Thor is a seasoned fighter who has been honing his skills for a millennium, whereas Banner/Hulk is a scientist-turned-rage monster who is more of a all-in brawler with no fighting skills other than brute strength. Thor can out-think, outmaneuver and out-fight Hulk, who depends on sheer power.

American Maid

11-15-2012, 07:29 AM

is that the sound of the welding!?

Nah, it's a reference to how the foreshadowing of Surtur was presented in the Simonson run.

This article talks about it as #10 on their list. So just scroll down a little bit on the link to see several panels of it. http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/04/12/walt-simonson-thor/

Looking at that list again makes me wonder if they might have an opening scene like this too :yay: As the article says, it gives the audience a sense of what a huge challenge he'll be to Thor and fam.