Who is the most powerful mutant in the X-Men universe? [Archive]

Spectre722

03-27-2003, 07:12 PM

mos def Xman

and yes he did die fighting off some kind of celestial string of alternat earths (dont ask me i have no idea)

and no he was not a part of onslaught he was just imprisoned in his mind for a short while with franklin

xman actually came from age of apocalypse when that reality's version of sinister took jean grey and scott summers (big surprise there im startin to think sinister is some kind of Summers/Grey perv) genetic material and combined it to create xman

He is so powerful that his powers were too powerful for his body therefore the powerful powers that the powerful xman had would eventually overpower him killing the powerful xman (whoo how many times did i say power, powers, or powerful?)

Guyverjay

03-28-2003, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by Spectre722
mos def Xman

and yes he did die fighting off some kind of celestial string of alternat earths (dont ask me i have no idea)

and no he was not a part of onslaught he was just imprisoned in his mind for a short while with franklin

xman actually came from age of apocalypse when that reality's version of sinister took jean grey and scott summers (big surprise there im startin to think sinister is some kind of Summers/Grey perv) genetic material and combined it to create xman

He is so powerful that his powers were too powerful for his body therefore the powerful powers that the powerful xman had would eventually overpower him killing the powerful xman (whoo how many times did i say power, powers, or powerful?)

When I say part of Onslaught I meant that with them imprisoned inside, Onslaught had full access to their powers. There fore they were a part of him.

Dew k. Mosi

03-28-2003, 05:10 PM

Apocalypse is overrated. He talks big, but after 8 billion years or whatever what has he really accomplished

Cyclops

03-28-2003, 09:54 PM

Well, he inadvertently created Cable, who has caused one headache after another after another after another...

incurock31

03-28-2003, 10:04 PM

I don't know much about the recent X-Men (Onslaught who?) but I'll say Bishop becuase he's badass. But I won't fight tooth and nail about it. It probably is that Franklin guy (related to Reed and Sue?)

parkerpete

03-29-2003, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by incurock31
I don't know much about the recent X-Men (Onslaught who?) but I'll say Bishop becuase he's badass. But I won't fight tooth and nail about it. It probably is that Franklin guy (related to Reed and Sue?)

Wow. You really haven't read any comics for a while. Sorry, I don't mean it as a dis, but.... YEAH. Franklin FREAKIN' Richards. He's been around for about 20 years, for the luvva mike!

Mindworm

03-29-2003, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Obsidian
I've heard that it was Apocalypse...and then I heard other rumors that Proteus was the most powerful mutant. Does anyone know who the most powerful mutant is? PHOENIX

Mindworm

03-29-2003, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by Gimili
I'd say X-man. He's pushing up daisies.He bought the farm.He's sleeping with the fishes.He's dead as a doornail.

demento

03-29-2003, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Mindworm
He's pushing up daisies.He bought the farm.He's sleeping with the fishes.He's dead as a doornail.

He's taking a dirt nap.

He bit the big one.

He bought the farm.

He's extremely sleepy.

He bought a pine condo.

Cashed in his chips.

Feeding the fishes.

He's living-impaired.

He 5hit the bed.

and finally...

He's been promoted to Subterranean Truffle Inspector

parkerpete

03-29-2003, 10:39 AM

He's on the night train to the Big Adios.

WallCrawl

03-29-2003, 12:33 PM

He's answered his last call. He's bit the big one. He's bought a pine condo. He's croaked. He's reached the end of the line. He's meeting his maker. He's cooking for the Kennedy's now.

diamond head

03-29-2003, 09:38 PM

Rogue!... the fact that she can steal anybodys power,..it ridiculous though,and i think she's the one who should have commited suicide and not colossus..she's the one with the big problem ,. i think nowaday we got a bunch of ignorant writer who don't know about psychologie...beside i never realy like that character rogue ,because we already got absorbing man,i just don like copycat specialy if they're introduced as a young female counterpart of the original...example ,i despise buffy the vampire slayer because i grow up knowing it's supposed to be blade the vampire slayer.

The Original Bamfer

03-29-2003, 09:55 PM

Arsinel... oh yeah that's me baby... ARSINEL.

That's a made up character I made. He is awesome though

But really, X-man if he were alive, MUWAHAHAHAHHA

-TOB

AVEITWITHJAMON

04-08-2003, 08:09 AM

I THINK APOCALYPSE

spahn

04-11-2003, 04:23 PM

ill probably sound dumb for saying this but how about Juggernaut!?!

:venom:

Moriarte

04-13-2003, 05:15 PM

Not a mutant, but magical power.

I would say...Franklin Richards, simply because he has the most potential.

Ciou-See the Sig

Erik Magnus Lehnsherr

04-13-2003, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by diamond head
Rogue!... the fact that she can steal anybodys power,..it ridiculous though,and i think she's the one who should have commited suicide and not colossus..she's the one with the big problem ,. i think nowaday we got a bunch of ignorant writer who don't know about psychologie...beside i never realy like that character rogue ,because we already got absorbing man,i just don like copycat specialy if they're introduced as a young female counterpart of the original...example ,i despise buffy the vampire slayer because i grow up knowing it's supposed to be blade the vampire slayer.

Problem is, she has to touch them to absorb their power.

Apolyom

04-14-2003, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by Erik Magnus Lehnsherr
Problem is, she has to touch them to absorb their power.

Exactly... Franklin could blink her out of existance before she could even lift her finger!

Ratcrawler

04-15-2003, 04:23 PM

Marrow! :D

darkdaz

04-18-2003, 02:55 PM

Franklin. but i thought he lost all his powers. I missed the abraxis thing. But i think he lost them there. Or he is just hiding them again.

ThunderBird

04-18-2003, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Gimili
Yeah, Franklin is a mutant, isn't he? I'd go with him then. He's basically the Beyonder with no immortality and less control over his powers.

Although X-man is dead, Cable looks to be every bit as powerful as he was these days. Maybe even more so.
Doesn't the tehno-virus prevent Cable from using his full power?

Dontreadthis

04-19-2003, 04:55 PM

Onlslaught (sp?) easily. He WAS Franklin Richards in a sense wasn't he? (Haven't read the comics in a while, so correct me if I'm wrong)

Guyverjay

04-19-2003, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Dontreadthis
Onlslaught (sp?) easily. He WAS Franklin Richards in a sense wasn't he? (Haven't read the comics in a while, so correct me if I'm wrong)

Not really, he had all of franklins and X-man's powers though.
His personality came from Xavier and Magneto.

Dontreadthis

04-19-2003, 05:05 PM

WHAT? How exactly did that come about? (I just heard about onslaught and his powers today, so I obviously don't know much about him)

Godlovinspidey

04-22-2003, 09:21 PM

Holy cow! I just read his bio on Marveldirectory.com
(love that site!), and he's awesome! It says he's 40 pounds and three feet. How old is he? Five?

fuzzyred

04-23-2003, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by guyverjay
X-man was part of Onslaught technically.

Anyway Franklin Richards is the most powerful mutant in the world by far.

He was technically part of Onslaught as well though

its reed 'd kid no question x man,onslought, proteus, phoneix, cable, apcolypse

cant change reality technically, franklin richards is "God"

Acro

04-23-2003, 04:35 AM

I think Franklin Richards is the most powerful mutant, but the mutant with most sheer destructive force must be Sienna Blaze.
cos she risked destroying the earth everytime she teleported or something.

Other than that I think Magneto is pretty powerful, as is Apocalypse.
Onslaught was only so powerful because he stole his powers from Magneto, Charles, X-man and Franklin. Without them he was crap.

Darth-Darko

04-26-2003, 09:55 AM

Apocalypse is the most powerful!.

storyteller

04-27-2003, 08:14 PM

is franklin even a real mutant. I mean if so then the fantastic 4 are mutants. But really the most powerfull mutant is one who cant die and his name begins with A( i cant spell it)

Acro

04-28-2003, 07:46 AM

Erh...what?
The FF were given their powers through radiation in space.
So their genes changed and when Reed and Sue had Franklin his DNA was also changed making him a mutant.
Any superhero who´s been given power in an unanatural way whom would have a child would have a mutant child according to the laws of Marvel genetics.

Erik Magnus Lehnsherr

04-28-2003, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Darth-Darko
Apocalypse is the most powerful!.

So powerful that he hasn't done jack squat.

nOvAkAiNe

04-29-2003, 02:38 PM

give some props to professor x i mean he can melt your skull!!!!
ummm...thats what sqid boy said.

GammaBeast

02-10-2004, 12:14 PM

The thing I never understood was; if Franklin Richards is just becoming a celestial then why aren't the celestials far more powerful than they are. Galactus devours celestials to fuel himself, so logically he should have the same powers on a much higher level, yet he was defeated. With powers like that on that level he should be impossible to beat.

I'm going to say Onslaught is the most powerful, some might not consider the powers he had to be his own, but the fact that he was in possession of them and in total control IMO makes them his for that period of time. So while he had Nate Grey, Prof X. and Franklin Richards he was the most powerful mutant ever.

Apocalypse isn't as powerful as people say, Nate Grey was created by Sinister to destroy him. I believe it was Cable that eventually killed apocalypse (cable and nate grey are basically different versions of the same person).

Guyverjay

02-10-2004, 12:23 PM

Since when does Galactus consume celestials to fuel himsel?:confused:. I think you're getting confused with an alternate universe

Endeavor

02-10-2004, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by GammaBeast
... I believe it was Cable that eventually killed apocalypse (cable and nate grey are basically different versions of the same person).

Cable and Jean Grey together, with Cyclops providing the 1st strike by preventing Apocalypse from possessing the body of Nate Grey and instead forcing him to possess his own.

GammaBeast

02-10-2004, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by guyverjay
Since when does Galactus consume celestials to fuel himsel?:confused:. I think you're getting confused with an alternate universe

What I read was that inside each planet is an infant celestial, which is what galactus feeds off of mainly. I also remember seeing one scene where galactus was feeding off adult celestials, some have theorized his entire purpose is to keep the celestials numbers low.

Originally posted by Endeavor
Cable and Jean Grey together, with Cyclops providing the 1st strike by preventing Apocalypse from possessing the body of Nate Grey and instead forcing him to possess his own.

Didn't sinister say that Nate Grey would eventually have enough psionic power to kill apocalypse? Hence his whole purpose for existing?(Im asking this looking for an answer, not stating something to further my argument).

hungrytrash

07-03-2006, 11:45 AM

Well, it would be hyperstorm IMO.
Hyperstorm possesses virtually infinite psionic power which he can draw endlessly from hyperspace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspace_%28science_fiction%29), from which (in the Marvel Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Universe)) the primordial energies creating the fundamental forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction) of the universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe), strong nuclear force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_interaction), electromagnetism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism), the weak nuclear force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_nuclear_force) and gravity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity) flow into our plane of reality. Controlling the four fundamental forces should theoretically allow him to restructure, create or destroy matter at will down to subatomic level, as well as creating electromagnetic fields and electrical currents, making matter radioactive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay), manipulating gravity, causing nuclear detonations, emit enormous energy blasts, use his psionic powers to increase his physical strength and generally accomplishing nearly anything he sets his mind to. He has also displayed telepathic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy) abilities, both as Hyperstorm (Fantastic Four Unlimited #12) and as his otherworld counterpart David Richards (Exiles #59). For the latter, his powers has been described as an amalgam of the powers of Professor X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_X), Magneto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_%28comics%29) and the Phoenix Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Force_%28comics%29). He can also teleport through hyperspace from one place in the universe to another, possibly at immeasurable distances. He has been seen to counter the Invisible Woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Woman)'s forcefield with one of his own making, unsurprisingly since she draws her power from one of the higher planes of hyperspace, though highly limited compared to Hyperstorm's own hyperpowers. He is also telekinetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychokinesis), considering the fact that both his parents, as well as his grandmother Jean Grey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Grey), had telekinetic powers. His power level has generally been compared to that of cosmic beings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_being) rather than that of other very powerful mutants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutant_%28fictional%29) such as Franklin Richards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Richards) or Nate Grey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Grey). Hyperstorm may be the most powerful mutant witnessed to date.

cornernat

07-03-2006, 11:53 AM

it's onslaught, taking into consideration he has almost limitless power, as do others like rogue but honestly looking at rogue and then looking at onslaught, who would you be more afraid of?

Exploding Boy

07-03-2006, 01:42 PM

The thing about Rogue is that she can’t just walk into the X-Mansion and start absorbing everyone’s powers. 1. They wouldn’t let her just kill everyone and sit there and not do anything about it. 2. She would go clinically insane from all of the psyches in her head.

hungrytrash

07-03-2006, 01:43 PM

Hyperstorm>Onslaught

Majik1387

07-03-2006, 02:49 PM

Scarlet Witch

Exploding Boy

07-03-2006, 03:39 PM

She's too depowered to be the most powerfull mutant

Majik1387

07-03-2006, 03:52 PM

If she wasn't depowered she would be imo.

Exploding Boy

07-03-2006, 03:53 PM

I still think Franklin is better than her. He can just will her existence out of the universe. He can make her hexes do what he wants.

Bastila

07-03-2006, 04:14 PM

Isn't Phoenix the most powerful mutant?

Exploding Boy

07-03-2006, 04:18 PM

The Phoenix Force is not a mutant. If you're talking about Jean Grey, she is not the most powerfull mutant(although she is a strong one)

Mistopurr83

07-03-2006, 06:28 PM

The one who may be the most powerful mutant ever is the New Sun. In an alternate reality the New Sun destroyed a world and the Pheonix force just by thinking about it. It is also what Gambit was originally meant to become when his powers first manifested but, Sinister removed that part of his mind b/c Gambit feared he would'nt be able to control that power. If 616 Gambit fully becomes the New Sun someday I bet it would make an interesting epic, exciting and devastating arc. He would be the only one able to destroy unstoppable mutants like Apocolypse, Wolverine, X-Man, and Sinister I guess.

Exploding Boy

07-03-2006, 06:32 PM

Sinister is not a mutant.

hungrytrash

07-06-2006, 07:08 AM

Man, hyperstorm would slaughter all of them ;/.

tirminyl

07-06-2006, 12:10 PM

The one who may be the most powerful mutant ever is the New Sun. In an alternate reality the New Sun destroyed a world and the Pheonix force just by thinking about it.

You cannot destroy the Phoenix Force. You can destroy the host but not the Force itself.

bcd90

07-06-2006, 12:28 PM

I thought Jean Grey, Hyperstorm, and Scarlet Witch were all the most powerful mutants.

DyneHaZ

07-06-2006, 10:21 PM

jubliee

can we get some pics of these mutants !!!

Exploding Boy

07-06-2006, 10:24 PM

jubliee

can we get some pics of these mutants !!!
Jubilee?

What mutants?

LivingInferno

07-09-2006, 01:42 PM

Didn't Franklin create Counter Earth or something like that accidentaly. I Would have said Jean, but she's only super-powerful with the Phoenix Force. The Onslaught entity wasn't really a mutant though. When Xavier was removed from Onslaught he wasn't a mutant just a very powerful being. I can't really remember much about it though so I might be wrong.

I thought Jean Grey, Hyperstorm, and Scarlet Witch were all the most powerful mutants.

Yeah and Scarlet Witch

Franklin. but i thought he lost all his powers. I missed the abraxis thing. But i think he lost them there. Or he is just hiding them again.

No Reed just put mental blocks in to stop him doing something bad with his mind accidentaly. I don't know if he lost his powers in the House Of M fallout.

tirminyl

07-10-2006, 08:03 AM

No Reed just put mental blocks in to stop him doing something bad with his mind accidentaly. I don't know if he lost his powers in the House Of M fallout.

No, Franklin put mental blocks in himself so he could not access his full power.

mrhayzie

07-13-2006, 03:46 PM

what about exodus or mikhail rasputin? i haven't been keeping tabs on x-men, please elaborate on those.

DarknessOfDeath

07-13-2006, 04:08 PM

dark Phoenix.

ArmsHeldOut

09-23-2006, 08:28 PM

In my opinion, Franklin Richards is the world's most powerful mutant. He is currently listed as an Omega level and has performed tremendous feats with his psionic abilities, including the creation of a small universe populated with multiple living creatures from insects to humans to cosmic entities, such as Galactus and Silver Surfer. In doing just that Richards was barely even trying! Such unimaginable power in one so young is remarkable! Furthermore, the star spanning Celestials consider Franklin to be on par with themselves and look upon him as the culmination of their age old experiments on humanity. Remember, the Celestials are the omnipotent cosmic beings responsible for embuing humankind with the latent genes that would one day evolve the race into mutants.
I mean even Mephisto (Marvel's Devil himself) fears the power of Franklin Richards and rightly so, as it was Franklin who dispersed the demon's essense on two separate occasions! That says a lot. Come on! The boy is barely 6 or 7 and he can do just about anything his heart desires. Who knows what his full potential could bring?
BTW, Franklin will be tapping into his abilities once again come November when Onslaught returns to kill the one child who made a fool of him 10 years ago (our time). It should be interesting.

The Phoenix Force (as far as I know) is an alien entity of immeasurable power, but is not a mutant although once tied to Jean Grey and now Rachel Summers.

Hyperstorm could potentially rival the power of his father (Franklin Richards of an alternate timeline), but that remains to be seen. Truth be told, Hyperstorm is a terrible character with too many loose ends like most of Tom De Falco's creations. His costume is ridiculous.

*Dark_Phoenix*

09-25-2006, 10:41 AM

i dont care who is it, for me it will alway be phoenix!!

Girl power!!!!

Nature's Rising

09-25-2006, 09:44 PM

If you narrow it down, only OMEGA mutants can be labeled as the MOST POWERFUL mutants, hence the name.

Franklin Richards are like near Celestial level at best. At worst he is an Omega mutant. He's very powerful that he beat Onslaught that took on Marvel's ultimate heroes.

Mister M is also powerful, but I still don't know the extent of his powers. So as Hyperstorm. Full potential Elixir could be on the top 10 too along with Phoenix.

Onslaught is not a mutant. It is just a manifested of combined minds of Prof. X and Magneto.

Neptune

09-26-2006, 03:37 PM

Legion or Franklin Richards.

ComicChick

09-27-2006, 08:28 PM

couldn't rogue potentially be the most powerful? back when she could use at will any of the powers she'd absorbed in the past?

i always heard they "de-powered" her because she was becoming too powerful or something like that.

Sloth7d

09-27-2006, 08:37 PM

CRIMINAL

10-12-2006, 10:00 AM

Hyperstrom is Franklin Richards son . I think these two are some of the most powerful mutants, but don't forget the watchers and the celestials. Ultimately The Hulk is the strongest of all since any source of radiation can regenerate him. According to some The Sentry which is a knock of us Superman is the strongest Marvel universe character even though much is not known of him.

krazy-xo

03-28-2007, 11:38 AM

I think it's Jean Grey.
But it could also be Franklin Richards cause he's also powerful.

Other than that, I don't know.

Snikt 6

03-30-2007, 11:55 PM

I don't know about the most powerful, I guess Phoenix would get my vote. But the most dangerous? Yep, snikt.

OliPhoenixFire

03-31-2007, 11:34 AM

Phoenix is , i believe, the most powerful! :D

ApocalypseX

06-18-2007, 01:53 AM

No none of them compare to The ONe Above All (G-d) followed by the Beyonder, Living Tribunal, Mephisto aka The Devil

do your research look at my other posts

Well we have to exclude Beyonder, and Living Tribunal, and Galactus and the other cosmic beings. Mephisto would have to be excluded too because he would easily make Franklin Richards a fetus again. Hmm, now for mutants, Jean Grey is only strong because the Phoenix is using her as a host as it does almost anyone it feels a link too. Phoenix once found a host in Professor Xavier's body and even Spider-man. For Mutants Apocalypse can has UNLIMITED strength which means he can throw Hulk across the galaxy. And the fact that he can giv himself any power imaginable doesn't hurt either. Did I mention he draws power from any outside nergy source? So any energy around or anywhere he can draw power from, how freiken cool.

maxethanhunt

01-30-2008, 08:18 PM

[aqua][b]<fontsize=17>hey dudes are you all gone nuts did you ever heard the name of pulse yes he was a kid but now he's a grown up and has the power to disable all mutatic effects and mutant powers execpt his and has the power to generate his own new powers.cosmic energy shields and blasts.MAN.

BMM

01-30-2008, 08:24 PM

No none of them compare to The ONe Above All (G-d) followed by the Beyonder, Living Tribunal, Mephisto aka The Devil

do your research look at my other posts

I don't think I would classify God as a mutant...

And for all his alleged knowledge and power, Apocalypse seems to be defeated pretty easily.

maxethanhunt

01-30-2008, 08:27 PM

dude you r wrong pulse is the most powerful mutant

Neptune

02-02-2008, 12:40 PM

There are a couple of mutants who are really powerful:X-man, Franklin Richards, Legion. Too bad Synch is dead. He could've been really powerfull too. I always felt like he was underrated.

Barzini

06-04-2008, 06:56 PM

The five most powerful mutants are, in order (with 1 being the most powerful):

1.) HYPERSTORM
2.) FRANKLIN RICHARDS
3.) MAD JIM JASPERS
4.) NATE GREY (X-MAN)
5.) RACHEL SUMMERS (MARVEL GIRL)

This list is definitive. Hyperstorm is a Galactic Scale Reality Warper, Franklin Richards and Mad Jim Jaspers are Reality Warpers. Nate Grey is the ultimate Telekenetic, Rachel Summers the ultimate Telepath.

Jean Grey, New Sun, Magneto and Xavier are also very powerful.

Barzini

06-04-2008, 06:58 PM

Also worth noting is that Cable would have attained Nate Grey's power level if he had not been infected at birth with the techno-organic virus by Apocalypse. A large amount of his psionic powers are instead constantly directed at containing the virus.

Nate Grey does not have this weakness. Bring back X-Man!

Also, for those who don't know, Hyperstorm is the son of Franklin Richards and Rachel Summers. As you can therefore see, Hyperstorm represents the culmination of a lot of bloodlines, and thus possesses nigh-omnipotent power - his power is more comparable to the celestials than to other mutants. He himself refers to his power as "The Power Supreme". Check out Fantastic Four #406 onwards for Hyperstorm goodness.

Finally, just to clarify, Onslaught was a psionic entity, and not a mutant (though he was born from the mutant powers of Xavier & Magneto).

Faded To Deaf

06-06-2008, 09:36 AM

What about Xavier, couldn't he just control the most powerful mutant anyway?

Valechan

06-10-2008, 02:36 PM

The Most powerful Mutant is Ororo, period :D

donaldthe3rd

06-11-2008, 07:35 PM

I read that Magneto is the most powerful mutant then read later that Apocalpyse is the most powerful.

donaldthe3rd

06-11-2008, 07:40 PM

is franklin even a real mutant. I mean if so then the fantastic 4 are mutants. But really the most powerfull mutant is one who cant die and his name begins with A( i cant spell it)
A for...AQUAMAN!! lol. And no. There mutants with just plain human parents and still get powers, mutants aren't the only ones who can have mutant kids.

ChaoticPsylocke

06-15-2008, 11:16 PM

well if franklin and rachels kid is the most powerful what if nate and rachel had a kid?

would that be incest? theyre not really related...

just a thought...

Franklin Richards

06-15-2008, 11:29 PM

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a21/FranklinRichards/Franklin/FR_ad_sm.jpg

:ff: :ff: :ff:

elyk626

09-05-2008, 09:37 PM

okay this is just hypothetical but if somehow the pheonix force inhabited apoxolypse wouldnt that make him the most powerfull mutant ever?
i mean seirously pheonix can call on a unknown amount of telekinetic power and destroy anything she can think of. she has all matter at her control. apoxolypse has she ability to create things out of existing matter and can feed of the energy around him thus giving him an unlimited amount of power in the physical realm.

put these 2 together and you get... superdude (lame i know) with unlimited power on the mental and physical planes, someone who can create and destroy matter(!!!!!!!) and someone who can wrap themselves in a telekinetic forcefeild to make themselves untouchable.(wtf)

BMM

09-06-2008, 03:30 AM

I could be wrong, but I think Apocalypse is fairly irrelevant in that situation. That is, I don't think the Phoenix Force needs Apocalypse in order to be that powerful because the Phoenix Force (regardless of its avatar) already is that powerful.

sly-dogg

01-08-2010, 08:20 AM

hmm...

sly-dogg

01-08-2010, 08:37 AM

hey guys what abt Gladiator??? i think he's the powerful one in the Marvel comics world! once on TV i saw how he with a simple punch made Juggernaut (he's one of the toughest mutants, X-men team are very cautious about him) fly away :hehe:

Gladiator possesses a number of superhuman capabilities as a result of his unique alien physiology including superhuman strength (capable of shattering a planet),superhuman speed, stamina and durability (capable of withstanding an explosion equivalent to a supernova); reflexes; heat vision (stated as "hotter than a star"); frost breath and is capable of warp speed flight (measured as "a hundred times the speed of light"). AINT ZAT SOMETHING !!! :word:

but there's always someone who can defeat the other one but who is also can be defeated by the 3rd one =\ so...the mutant u're mentioning is the strongest one for YOU!!!