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reggiebar
03-12-2004, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by wareagle
and what better place to do so than in Atlanta.
Lynch to the Jets is the current rumor...
Wayne Entrprise
03-12-2004, 01:37 PM
Any idea on what team Counch is gonna go to?
Soundwave
03-12-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Wayne Entrprise
Any idea on what team Counch is gonna go to?
maybe Dallas if the money's right.
Soundwave
03-12-2004, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Lynch to the Jets is the current rumor...
I hear that Indy and Green Bay are possibilities too.
Wayne Entrprise
03-12-2004, 02:52 PM
Browns where stuipd for getting rid of Counch in the first place
Johnny Blaze
03-12-2004, 04:45 PM
Personally, If I were Lynch, I'd head up to Indy, seeing as how they are pretty damn close to a championship.
And I still say the Bucs are fools for letting him go like that. :mad: :o
Illchill
03-12-2004, 07:43 PM
Henson picked up by Cowboys.
cyborg ninja 14
03-12-2004, 08:13 PM
The broncos could use a guy like lynch
Illchill
03-12-2004, 08:34 PM
I just watched this past seasons DVD on the Pats run.Just got it.I think that was the one were they won the SB right?Yea, they spanked the 2 MVPs twice EACH, demolished Buffalo, had impropable wins over Denver and Indy, along with winning a stupid little ring.Eh, it was an alright year...
Illchill
03-12-2004, 08:39 PM
Third prize: Blue Jays pitcher Ted Lilly still hasn't pitched in a spring-training game -- because he strained his wrist last month trying to move a big-screen TV.
Second prize: A's pitcher Rich Harden strained the shoulder in his left (non-pitching) arm when he reached to shut off his alarm clock.
First prize: On the same day, Marlins pitcher Bryce Florie pulled a rib-cage muscle while throwing, then had a nightmare later that night, jumped out of bed, slammed into the window and needed 15 stitches to stop the cut in his chin.
"I need to drive back home and start all over again," Florie told the Miami Herald's Clark Spencer.
-ESPN.com
Illchill
03-12-2004, 08:40 PM
Skiped second prize.Oopz.It was Rich harden straining his arm turning an alarm clock off.
TheCheshireCat
03-12-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Illchill
Man, I truthfully am not worried about any things that New Engaldn does that even seems bad, because they have THE best coaches/front office tandem possibly ever.Get whoever, let go of whoever (as long as they names aren't Brady, Law, or Viniteria.)I may be cocky, but anoher championship is coming to NE.
:rolleyes:
What about Shula? :p
Wayne Entrprise
03-12-2004, 11:46 PM
Anyone here an Oakland A's fan? I am hoping this year they will go further than they have the past 3 years and make it to the Series. It has been a very long time since they have been.
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Wayne Entrprise
Anyone here an Oakland A's fan? I am hoping this year they will go further than they have the past 3 years and make it to the Series. It has been a very long time since they have been.
They got way worse then they were last year... im thinking they wont even be making the playoffs this year. There gonna be last years Dodgers.
cyborg ninja 14
03-13-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Slipknot
They got way worse then they were last year... im thinking they wont even be making the playoffs this year. There gonna be last years Dodgers.
True true, they have some of the best young pitchers in in league (Zito is my favorite of the bunch) yet they cant ever scrore any runs in the playoffs. I've lost faith in the A's, and the Angels are going to win the AL west.
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by cyborg ninja 14
True true, they have some of the best young pitchers in in league (Zito is my favorite of the bunch) yet they cant ever scrore any runs in the playoffs. I've lost faith in the A's, and the Angels are going to win the AL west.
They have lost all there offense this year... they do have a great pitching staff but that wont do it for them this year, they will be this years 2003 Dodgers (great pitching but no hitting). They will either finish 2nd or 3rd behind Anaheim and possibly Seattle.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-13-2004, 01:11 PM
Ty Law wants out of New England?
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2004/03/13/law_out_to_end_days_as_a_patriot/
I'll take him as an Eagle, any day of the damn week.
TheCheshireCat
03-13-2004, 01:19 PM
"But at the same time, wherever I'm at, I just want to be paid what I deserve to get paid. And to be truthfully honest with you, I deserve to be the highest-paid cornerback in the NFL. "
I think that's an asinine statement. Most of his argument makes sense other than that.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-13-2004, 01:24 PM
I'd take Champ Bailey and Chris McAlister over Ty Law, but that's about it.
TheCheshireCat
03-13-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
I'd take Champ Bailey and Chris McAlister over Ty Law, but that's about it.
I'd just take Bailey.
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
I'd just take Bailey.
Me too.
Assassin32
03-13-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Lynch to the Jets is the current rumor...
No, he must join the Raiders.:mad:
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Assassin32
No, he must join the Raiders.:mad:
You dont need anymore veterans... you need young players, think young.
Assassin32
03-13-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
You dont need anymore veterans... you need young players, think young.
He's only 32, that's young for us.:) :up:
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Assassin32
He's only 32, that's young for us.:) :up:
Lol, I suppose.
Assassin32
03-13-2004, 02:14 PM
The Raiders already signed Ted Washington and Ron Stone. Obviously, age isn't a concern.
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Assassin32
The Raiders already signed Ted Washington and Ron Stone. Obviously, age isn't a concern.
Oh but it is, you should know that.
TheCheshireCat
03-13-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Assassin32
The Raiders already signed Ted Washington and Ron Stone. Obviously, age isn't a concern.
The Raiders are dumb :)
cyborg ninja 14
03-13-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
I'd just take Bailey.
To bad hes with my Broncos!:D unfortuanlty Portis had to go:( :mad:
cyborg ninja 14
03-13-2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
The Raiders are dumb :)
"We are the dumbest team in america"
-Former coach Bill Callahan
;)
Slipknot
03-13-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
The Raiders are dumb :)
Indeed.
Illchill
03-13-2004, 06:10 PM
I said anyone could leave as long as it wasn't Brady or Viniterai, and I stand by it.If he wants to be a jerk, go ahead, sit on at home like Milloy watching the Pats win again.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-14-2004, 05:32 PM
According to RotoWorld.com, The Miami Dolphins and San Diego Chargers have agreed on a deal that will send WR David Boston to the Dolphins. Boston is set to arrive in Miami tomorrow, with a press conference sometime there after.
Complete terms of the deal have yet to be released to the press. I really want to see what San Diego got in return before judging this deal. If they got Miami's first rounder, then you can't help but feel that San Diego made out better, having two high first round picks. However, with the way receivers have been getting low-balled this season(Owens for a 2nd, Keyshawn for a 5th), it wouldn't surprise me if it was for something like a 3rd round pick.
Even with Boston's baggage and health risk, I like this move for the Dolphins. Before Boston bulked up he was putting up insane numbers, and if he dumps some of his upper-body mass/bulks up his legs a little, he could get back to the balance of strength and speed he was at when he came out of college. And, for the first time in his career, he won't be the #1 target. That could do wonders for him.
Jakesteraholic
03-14-2004, 05:36 PM
NCAA tourney seedings announced. Kentucky's the top #1 seed, then Duke, then Stanford, and finally St. Joe's. Jakesteraholic's initial upset picks: #12 Manhattan Jaspers over #5 Florida Gators, and #11 Air Force Falcons over #6 North Carolina TarHeels. Hopefully #14 Northern Iowa Panthers over #3 Georgia Tech:(
Btw, Wisconsin got seeded 6th even though they just beat Illinois for the Big 10 tourney championship. Oh, and Illinois got a FIVE SEED. Way to go, douchebag tournament panel.
TheCheshireCat
03-14-2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
According to RotoWorld.com, The Miami Dolphins and San Diego Chargers have agreed on a deal that will send WR David Boston to the Dolphins. Boston is set to arrive in Miami tomorrow, with a press conference sometime there after.
Complete terms of the deal have yet to be released to the press. I really want to see what San Diego got in return before judging this deal. If they got Miami's first rounder, then you can't help but feel that San Diego made out better, having two high first round picks. However, with the way receivers have been getting low-balled this season(Owens for a 2nd, Keyshawn for a 5th), it wouldn't surprise me if it was for something like a 3rd round pick.
Even with Boston's baggage and health risk, I like this move for the Dolphins. Before Boston bulked up he was putting up insane numbers, and if he dumps some of his upper-body mass/bulks up his legs a little, he could get back to the balance of strength and speed he was at when he came out of college. And, for the first time in his career, he won't be the #1 target. That could do wonders for him.
If it's a 1st round pick I will stab someone in the face. I'm thinking 3rd rounder for this year or next, which wouldn't bother me. If they do get Boston I wonder what they'll do with their first rounder this year. Would they get an O-lineman or still get a receiver or what?
Raggedy Ann
03-14-2004, 06:21 PM
the cubs have a lot of hot players now, im going to go to more games
Slipknot
03-14-2004, 06:23 PM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/ncaa/04mensbracket.gif
PoAnTimRSexi
03-14-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
If it's a 1st round pick I will stab someone in the face. I'm thinking 3rd rounder for this year or next, which wouldn't bother me. If they do get Boston I wonder what they'll do with their first rounder this year. Would they get an O-lineman or still get a receiver or what?
Nat Dorsey of Georgia Tech is an OT who should still be on the board when you guys pick. Apparently he's lost some interest though, because he showed up to the combines over weight. But behind Robert Gallery and Shawn Andrews(top-10 picks), Dorsey is the best OL available in the draft.
A lot of people still see the Dolphins going QB in the first round, but with Philip Rivers' stock rising into a top-15 pick, there won't be anyone on the board who could come in and be any better than Feeley or Fielder. If one of the elite receivers is still on the board(Mike Williams, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams) when the Dolphins pick, they could take one of them. I don't see any of them being on the board though.
Long story short, if I had to put money down, I'd bet on Nat Dorsey being the Dolphins' first round pick. Dorsey is equally skilled as a run blocker and a pass blocker, and his only real areas of concern are the aforementioned weight, and the fact that he's a few months removed from an injured shoulder.
Edit: The more I think about it, Miami-U's OT Vernon Carey could be the better pick for the Dolphins. Having a stud in the backfield and an unproven QB, they might be better off drafting a primarily run-blocking OT. And Carey is just that... he's the reason Clinton Portis and Willis McGahee tore it up in college like they did. Either way, I could see both Dorsey and Carey being available when it comes time for the Dolphins to pick. Its up to them where they go from there.
TheCheshireCat
03-14-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
Nat Dorsey of Georgia Tech is an OT who should still be on the board when you guys pick. Apparently he's lost some interest though, because he showed up to the combines over weight. But behind Robert Gallery and Shawn Andrews(top-10 picks), Dorsey is the best OL available in the draft.
A lot of people still see the Dolphins going QB in the first round, but with Philip Rivers' stock rising into a top-15 pick, there won't be anyone on the board who could come in and be any better than Feeley or Fielder. If one of the elite receivers is still on the board(Mike Williams, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams) when the Dolphins pick, they could take one of them. I don't see any of them being on the board though.
Long story short, if I had to put money down, I'd bet on Nat Dorsey being the Dolphins' first round pick. Dorsey is equally skilled as a run blocker and a pass blocker, and his only real areas of concern are the aforementioned weight, and the fact that he's a few months removed from an injured shoulder.
Edit: The more I think about it, Miami-U's OT Vernon Carey could be the better pick for the Dolphins. Having a stud in the backfield and an unproven QB, they might be better off drafting a primarily run-blocking OT. And Carey is just that... he's the reason Clinton Portis and Willis McGahee tore it up in college like they did. Either way, I could see both Dorsey and Carey being available when it comes time for the Dolphins to pick. Its up to them where they go from there.
If they drafted a reciever, word was it would be Lee Evans or Clayton
PoAnTimRSexi
03-14-2004, 06:54 PM
Clayton would have been a real nice compliment to Chambers; a big, strong receiver who can intimidate and out-force the league's bigger corners. But, now they've got that kind of receiver in Boston, so I don't see why they'd go that route in the draft.
Evans is the current favorite to go the Eagles, apparently. He's got a great vertical leap and has potential to be a big play receiver, but he barely hits 5'10". I dislike small receivers immensely, because you could see it from watching the Philly/Carolina NFCC alone, our small receivers got manhandled by a mediocre secondary. I doubt Reggie Williams will fall to the Eagles, so if he doesn't, I'm praying Rashaun Woods does.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-15-2004, 03:48 PM
The Terrell Owens hearing was today. Gene Upshaw of the NFLPA, who was arguing in favor of Owens, pulled a "swerve" of sorts by citing that Owens actually did file his paperwork on time, meaning this entire time he should have been a free agent. Prior to today, everyone expected Upshaw to argue that Owens never received notification that the FA deadline was pushed up, but thats not the case. Apparently Upshaw, the NFLPA, and several NFL analysts are confident that Terrell Owens will be announced a free agent tomorrow. Sal Palaontonio of ESPN said that once Terrell Owens hits the FA market, he's expected to sign the contract he negotiated with the Eagles a few weeks ago.
This is great news for Eagles fans. We get the stud receiver we ever so sorely need, and at the same time we reveal Terry Donahue as the snake he is. Nice job trying to sneak Owens under the radar Donahue, even though you knew he was a free agent. Now the Niners get nothing but a lot of wasted time. :)
In other news, the agent of Pro Bowl Miami DE Adewale Ogunleye has announced that 'Wale will sit out the entire 2004 season. Miami may try to trade him, but the price would likely be too steep to garner much interest.
Also, former Eagles CB Troy Vincent is expected to choose where he will play next season, today. The Bengals, Bills and Seahawks are the top suitors at the moment.
reggiebar
03-15-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
In other news, the agent of Pro Bowl Miami DE Adewale Ogunleye has announced that 'Wale will sit out the entire 2004 season. Miami may try to trade him, but the price would likely be too steep to garner much interest.
Does he want a new contract????
TheCheshireCat
03-15-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
Clayton would have been a real nice compliment to Chambers; a big, strong receiver who can intimidate and out-force the league's bigger corners. But, now they've got that kind of receiver in Boston, so I don't see why they'd go that route in the draft.
Evans is the current favorite to go the Eagles, apparently. He's got a great vertical leap and has potential to be a big play receiver, but he barely hits 5'10". I dislike small receivers immensely, because you could see it from watching the Philly/Carolina NFCC alone, our small receivers got manhandled by a mediocre secondary. I doubt Reggie Williams will fall to the Eagles, so if he doesn't, I'm praying Rashaun Woods does.
It's all about vertical leap. Chambers is only 5'11" but he looks 6'5 cuz he has like a 42 inch jump
spiderrasmon
03-15-2004, 04:01 PM
what are my opinions about the steroid scandal?
I think it's flattering. I don't do it, but I find it funny that fools have to juice themselves up to play at my level. Makes me feel good about my game...
PoAnTimRSexi
03-15-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Does he want a new contract????
Yep. They tendered him an offer since he was a Restricted Free Agent, and apparently he was quite insulted, because he was expecting a new contract entirely.
Illchill
03-15-2004, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by spiderrasmon
what are my opinions about the steroid scandal?
I think it's flattering. I don't do it, but I find it funny that fools have to juice themselves up to play at my level. Makes me feel good about my game...
Haha, great qoute.Fantastic interview, have gained ALOT of respect for BW.
TheCheshireCat
03-15-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Does he want a new contract????
Basically. I'm not sure why the Dolphins don't give him one. Too expensive I guess...
Illchill
03-15-2004, 09:08 PM
A quick off-topic question, no one thinks this thread is spam.I have heard some complaints that this thread is kinda "hogging room for other sports threads" and whatnot, but they are still opping up here and there on major news and stuff.This has been a thread that has ALWAYS been on topic, and that topic is sports.You guys dont think it is a spam type thread and stuff like that right?It serves a good purpose, just trying to get feedback.
Sports-wise, I hear Soriano may be heading out for the Mets top pitching prosepct soon.Hebetter be one heckuva pitcher, I mainly stay away from non Sox farm system, so I dont really know about this guy.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-15-2004, 10:30 PM
Latest news on Terrell Owens:
The NFL is urging the 3 teams(Eagles, Niners, Ravens) to come together on a trade before tomorrow, because if Owens wins his grievance, it will open a flood gate of players wanting to void and restructure their deals.
Thus, the 49'ers are set to re-acquire the rights to Terrell Owens, and then will trade them to the Eagles for a 3rd round draft pick or a player to be named later. The Baltimore Ravens would receive a compensatory draft pick for their troubles.
Everyone walks out happy. Works for me. I just want Owens.
---
The Miami Dolphins have acquired San Diego WR David Boston for a 2005 6th round draft pick and a player to be named later. What a steal, potentially.
A quick off-topic question, no one thinks this thread is spam.I have heard some complaints that this thread is kinda "hogging room for other sports threads" and whatnot, but they are still opping up here and there on major news and stuff.This has been a thread that has ALWAYS been on topic, and that topic is sports.You guys dont think it is a spam type thread and stuff like that right?It serves a good purpose, just trying to get feedback.
I'd be willing to bet that 90% of my posts on this forum have been in this thread, or the 2003-2004 NFL thread. To be honest, I don't have enough time to be assed to go through pages of SHH Community threads to find sports topics. It's much easier to just go to my "User CP" and click this sports thread and discuss it in here. This is a great thread, and I'll continue to post the majority of my replies in here. :)
Illchill
03-16-2004, 12:23 PM
Thanx Po;)
I am kinda sorry Bills got Vincent.It won't mean nothing with another sucky offensive year.
P.S Yankees Suck:mad:
PoAnTimRSexi
03-16-2004, 03:23 PM
http://www.boomspeed.com/kammich/owenseagle.jpg
Terrell Owens is officially an Eagle. Two weeks of sitting on the edge of my seat and constantly refreshing sports pages for updates, has finally ended. *pops champagne*
The Eagles send versatile back-up DE Brandon Whiting to the 49'ers, and a 5th round pick as compensation to the Ravens. In return, the Eagles get Pro Bowl WR Terrell Owens and sign him to a nice, big 7 year, 42 million dollar deal.
I am over-joyed at T.O. being an Eagle. You can say what you want about his attitude, about his hands, about whatever... it doesn't change the fact that for the first time in the "Reid/McNabb" era, the Eagles have a real threat at Wide Receiver. This takes pressure off McNabb, it takes pressure off Pinkston and FredEx, and it takes pressure off Bucky and Westbrook. This offense has the potential to be explosive next year.
With the addition/upgrades of Jevon Kearse, Terrell Owens and Dhani Jones, this has been the best Eagles off-season in history. All we need is a player or two at Corner, and I'll fully be expecting another run at the Big Game.
Illchill
03-16-2004, 03:25 PM
Do I smell Ty Law?But who would the Pats trade him for to the Eagles?
PoAnTimRSexi
03-16-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Illchill
Do I smell Ty Law?But who would the Pats trade him for to the Eagles?
If we got Ty Law, I'd think we were unstoppable.
I'd love to have Law, but I don't know if it will happen. The Eagles are more likely to sign a decling veteran via free agency and then draft a corner like Ahmad Carroll.
As for who we'd trade? Hmm... good question. I could see something like Correll Buckhalter and a high draft pick for Ty. I love Buckhalter, though, so I'd hate for that to happen.
Assassin32
03-16-2004, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Oh but it is, you should know that.
I meant it's not a concern in the eyes of those running the team.
Assassin32
03-16-2004, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
The Raiders are dumb :)
How?
Assassin32
03-16-2004, 09:47 PM
The Eagles have no excuse for not getting to the Super Bowl this year.
Slipknot
03-16-2004, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
If we got Ty Law, I'd think we were unstoppable.
I'd love to have Law, but I don't know if it will happen. The Eagles are more likely to sign a decling veteran via free agency and then draft a corner like Ahmad Carroll.
As for who we'd trade? Hmm... good question. I could see something like Correll Buckhalter and a high draft pick for Ty. I love Buckhalter, though, so I'd hate for that to happen.
Theres no way in hell the Eagles are gonna pay anymore money. Especially for Law, the Patriots are just gonna keep him and make him play out his last 2 years, he is under contract.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-16-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Theres no way in hell the Eagles are gonna pay anymore money. Especially for Law, the Patriots are just gonna keep him and make him play out his last 2 years, he is under contract.
I wouldn't count them out, money wise. They still have $16 million under the cap. Set aside an estimated $3 mil for signing draft picks, and they still have $13 million to spend in free agency.
reggiebar
03-17-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by reggiebar
I would bet my house that T.O ends up an Eagle...T.O. ISN'T going to take a physical for Baltimore and the player's union is already working on the case...
Honestly, Baltimore should just void the trade on the grounds that T.O. won't take the physical and let the Philly trade get worked out because even if Baltimore winds up with T.O. do they really want him if he doesn't want to be there?
Anyway, I say T.O. is an Eagle before the end of the month.
As I said....
Wayne Entrprise
03-17-2004, 02:28 PM
Now that he is an Eagle, I wonder if the Eagles will trade him off for some draft picks.
TheCheshireCat
03-17-2004, 03:45 PM
Dolphins got a great deal. Traded a ****ty player for a good player. Hopefully Boston will lose some weight, then we'd have some pretty good weapons.
reggiebar
03-17-2004, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Wayne Entrprise
Now that he is an Eagle, I wonder if the Eagles will trade him off for some draft picks.
You had better be joking.....
reggiebar
03-17-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Dolphins got a great deal. Traded a ****ty player for a good player. Hopefully Boston will lose some weight, then we'd have some pretty good weapons.
FYI, he played at a little over 240 last year and still ran in the 4.3 range (his weight would hurt him more with injury than productivity)...however, Miami made it clear to him before the trade that they wanted him at 230 and he was agreeable to those numbers, so I don't think it will be a problem.
TheCheshireCat
03-17-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
FYI, he played at a little over 240 last year and still ran in the 4.3 range (his weight would hurt him more with injury than productivity)...however, Miami made it clear to him before the trade that they wanted him at 230 and he was agreeable to those numbers, so I don't think it will be a problem.
Sexcellent. He should be good :)
cyborg ninja 14
03-17-2004, 10:03 PM
And now ladies and gentlemen.....
cyborg's predictions for the 2004 MLB season
NL West
1. Arizona Diamondbacks- obviously I must pick them for 1st place since they are my favorite team. The additions of Richie Sexson and Roberto Alomar will certainly better the D-backs offense which was in the bottom 3rd in the NL. With the departure of Curt Schilling and Miguel Batista the D-backs look to Randy Johnson once again to be the main man, though the uprising star Brandon Webb is certainly ready for the 2nd spot in the rotation. Yet, the 3-5 spots worry me because I’m not sold on Elmer Dessens and it has yet to be seen if Shane Reynolds (who pretty much has the 4th spot) and Steve Sparks will have good years. The bullpen like last year should be great with Mike Koplove, Jose Valverde, Oscar Villareal, and Matt Mantei leading the way. Cassey Fossum and Brandon Lyon should fare better in the NL but they currently have arm troubles that are being worked out. Overall I see this team much more balanced on offense and defense then they were last year so they be playing and winning more consistently en route to another division title.
2. San Fransisco Giants- As long as you have Barry Bonds on your team you will be a contender, and that’s exactly what the Giants will be by Bonds presence alone. Although the Giants don’t exactly have the producers around Bonds to drive in runs these days (benito Santiago and Rich Aurrila went elsewhere) but somehow they will manage. Their bullpen should be pretty good to with the return of Robb Nen, but it would’ve been nice if they kept worrel. Their starting pitching is lead by the fireballing Jason Schmidt, that guy has quite the fastball, the rest of their rotation isn’t to bad I guess. But overall I see this team finishing 2nd.
3. Los Angeles Dodgers- The dodgers are stupid, they did NOTHING to improve there piss-poor offence in the offseason but they got more pitching. Cmon, this team finished 1st in the league in ERA and last in BA and they didn’t do anything to improve on that? Well they got Juan Encarnacion but that’s it. I don’t think there pitching will as good as last year but they still can pitch. The bullpen will be stable with the best closer in the game eric gagne at the end. I bet he’ll keep that 50something save streak through this year. Overall the dodgers shtink, I don’t know why there in 3rd but they can pitch so I cant take that away from them.
4. Colorado Rockies- This team still can hit and maybe this year they could *looks the left and right* PITCH!!?? Meh, maybe im just hallucinating, these guys will once again occupy the 4th seat again. Although Todd Helton can swing quite the shtick.
5. San Diego Padres- Did someone say overrated? That’s right folks the Padres are so overrated they will finish last again! Sure they got David Wells ( and some other guys that I cant remember) but I don’t feel like typing anymore so Im gonna stop here.
More divisions soon to come folks!
cyborg ninja 14
03-17-2004, 10:16 PM
I return
NL Central
1. Chicago Cubs- This one was really hard cause I wanted to pick the stros’ but the Cubs rotation is so excellent I couldn’t put these guys any lower. Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Carlos Zambrano, and Matt Clement is quite the rotation, and Im sure they will dominate once again. The Cubs bullpen isn’t very good to begin with so that is my main concern for them come playoff time. (did somebody say Steve Bartman?) Their offence will be the same but they do have a power hitting 1st baseman in Derrek Lee but other than that there the same. IMO Sammy is on the downhill slope in his career but he will still produce as always
2. Houston Astros- These guys are my wild card pick cause I’d be damned if they didn’t make the playoffs, their offence will be as productive as last year but the big thing is Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens coming over to provide veteran leadership and experience to the young-ings like Roy Osawalt and Wade Miller. The bullpen even without billy wagner will remain dominant as last year this time headed by Octavio Dotel.
3. St. Louis Cardinals- Albert Pujols is the man! But that’s all the cards will be this year. Same as last year.
4. Millwakee Brewhahas- This is pretty bold but I think the beer makers will actually have a good season
5. Cinncinatti Reds- Screw the reds, after that fire sale they’ve got nothing much left, pitiful……
6. Pittsburg Pirates- Meh, they got nothing, just trade whatshisface to Boston and everything will be better.
Illchill
03-18-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
If we got Ty Law, I'd think we were unstoppable.
I'd love to have Law, but I don't know if it will happen. The Eagles are more likely to sign a decling veteran via free agency and then draft a corner like Ahmad Carroll.
As for who we'd trade? Hmm... good question. I could see something like Correll Buckhalter and a high draft pick for Ty. I love Buckhalter, though, so I'd hate for that to happen.
Ty Law for Brian Dawkins.Closed deal.:cool:
reggiebar
03-18-2004, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Illchill
Ty Law for Brian Dawkins.Closed deal.:cool:
Serious? or is that what you would like?
Soundwave
03-18-2004, 02:35 PM
See ya later Gators!
Slipknot
03-18-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Serious? or is that what you would like?
Hes not serious, he just wants it to happen.
Illchill
03-18-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Serious? or is that what you would like?
I wouldnt mind.
Chavez signed for 6 years 66 mil.About time A's.
Magneto29
03-18-2004, 02:58 PM
ahhhhhh, SU is losing !!!!!!
NOOOO
Illchill
03-18-2004, 03:42 PM
Now they have a one point lead.
Magneto29
03-18-2004, 03:49 PM
3 points :D
McNamara has already beaten his personal record :D
Brodie Bruce
03-18-2004, 03:50 PM
Go Syracuse!
Brodie Bruce
03-18-2004, 04:02 PM
woo!
Magneto29
03-18-2004, 04:21 PM
ahhh, it'd getting close again :eek:
Magneto29
03-18-2004, 04:31 PM
YAY, they won :p
Slipknot
03-18-2004, 04:58 PM
Syracuse isnt going to go far this year.
cyborg ninja 14
03-18-2004, 05:10 PM
You guys talking the NCAA tournement I see.....I havent been following the season much.
Magneto29
03-18-2004, 05:11 PM
Atleast the Sweet Sixteen. I know they won't get to the final four, It was a miracle they won last year. This year there is no Anthony or Edelin.
Slipknot
03-18-2004, 05:22 PM
They wong even make sweet sixteen, they wont beat Maryland IMO.
Brodie Bruce
03-18-2004, 05:24 PM
I have Syracuse going down in the second round
Magneto29
03-18-2004, 05:37 PM
I hope they do well. It was nuts here when they won last year. They even had a big parade and ceremony in the Dome. The newspaper had a different part of Carmelo every day until you had a 6 foot poster.
Maryland barely beat UTEP. It will be a very close game.
Slipknot
03-18-2004, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Magneto29
Maryland barely beat UTEP. It will be a very close game.
And Syracuse BARELY beat BYU.
PoAnTimRSexi
03-18-2004, 11:15 PM
While most everyone is having March Madness right now, I've come down with NFL Draft Fever. Thus, I recently finished my first mock of the year. I'm sure plenty more will come as the draft nears closer, but I figured I'd post mine anyway:
The Arizona Cardinals trade picks #3 and #33 to San Diego for pick #1.
1. Arizona Cardinals(f. San Diego) - Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pitt.
2. Oakland Raiders - Sean Taylor, S, Miami
3. San Diego Chargers(f. Arizona) - Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
4. New York Giants - Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss.
5. Washington Redskins - Kellen Winslow Jr., TE, Miami
6. Detroit Lions - Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon State
7. Atlanta Falcons - Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Cleveland Browns - Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas
9. Jacksonville Jaguars - Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Texans - Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
11. Pittsburgh Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami of Ohio
12. New York Jets - Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State
13. Buffalo Bills - Philip Rivers, QB, NC State
14. Chicago Bears - Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Kevin Jones, RB, Va Tech
16. San Francisco 49'ers - Reggie Williams, WR, Washington
17. Cincinatti Bengals - DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va Tech
18. New Orleans Saints - Dunta Robinson, CB, South Carolina
19. Minnesota Vikings - Will Smith, DE, Ohio State
20. Miami Dolphins - Vernon Carey, OG/OT, Miami
21. New England Patriots - Greg Jones, RB, Florida State
22. Dallas Cowboys - Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
23. Seattle Seahawks - D.J. Williams, OLB, Miami
24. Denver Broncos - Rashaun Woods, WR, Oklahoma State
25. Green Bay Packers - Matt Ware, CB/S, UCLA
26. St. Louis Rams - Ben Troupe, TE, Florida
27. Tennessee Titans - Randy Starks, DT, Maryland
28. Philadelphia Eagles - Jonathan Vilma, MLB, Miami
29. Indianapolis Colts - Derrick Strait, CB, Oklahoma
30. Kansas City Chiefs - Darnell Dockett, DT, Florida State
31. Carolina Panthers - Will Poole, CB, USC
32. New England Patriots - Chris Snee, OG, Boston College
---
I think it's pretty solid for my first mock of the year. Although, I'll probably get heat for having Roeth fall that far, and having both Lee Evans and Michael Clayton miss the first round. But oh well. What fun is a mock draft if you don't branch out a little?
Okay, go back to your college basketball you heathens.
Jakesteraholic
03-18-2004, 11:32 PM
Oh man I picked the Cougars to beat the Orangemen. F***ing Gerry McNamara.:mad:
Anyway, SO MANY games have been awesome. Wake Forest barely beat VCU, and that's a 4-13 matchup. I picked Manhattan to upset Florida so I'm stoked about that.:up: Depaul-Dayton was a sloppy, rough game. That Diener kid is awesome, just like his brother/cousin (dunno which) was for Marquette last year.
Illchill
03-19-2004, 06:59 AM
What a beggingin to march Madness.I will be in SCHOOL :mad: while BC is playing Utah, but I have computer 6th period and i'll check out the scores there.
Illchill
03-20-2004, 06:13 PM
Sapp signed 7 year deal with Raiders.
Brodie Bruce
03-20-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Jakesteraholic
Oh man I picked the Cougars to beat the Orangemen. F***ing Gerry McNamara.:mad:
Anyway, SO MANY games have been awesome. Wake Forest barely beat VCU, and that's a 4-13 matchup. I picked Manhattan to upset Florida so I'm stoked about that.:up: Depaul-Dayton was a sloppy, rough game. That Diener kid is awesome, just like his brother/cousin (dunno which) was for Marquette last year.
I love you Travis!!
reggiebar
03-20-2004, 07:33 PM
Syracuse Wins Again!
Slipknot
03-20-2004, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Syracuse Wins Again!
and now they get to play friggin Alabama, they have it made until Connecticut.
Slipknot
03-20-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by MarvelMovies
I wonder if there is anybody (w/o cheating) who has gotten all of their games right in their bracket..
Probably the total of maybe 10 throughout the country, theres no way people would see Stanford going down to Alabama.
Slipknot
03-20-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by MarvelMovies
The Raiders are one veteran team..
and even with Sapp there gonna either sub par team. They wont go past 8-8.
Assassin32
03-20-2004, 11:53 PM
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
PoAnTimRSexi
03-21-2004, 07:30 AM
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/US/Northeast/03/21/veterans.stadium.ap/story.stadium.implosion.jpg
Rest in Peace, Veteran's Stadium. I'll miss you old gal. :(
Slipknot
03-21-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/US/Northeast/03/21/veterans.stadium.ap/story.stadium.implosion.jpg
Rest in Peace, Veteran's Stadium. I'll miss you old gal. :(
You should be clapping in joy, that place looked god aweful. The new place should be awesome, and its OUTDOORS!
cyborg ninja 14
03-21-2004, 11:33 AM
R.I.P Veterans stadium.....
BeserkerHilf
03-21-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
You should be clapping in joy, that place looked god aweful. The new place should be awesome, and its OUTDOORS!
did you even attend a game at the vet, let alone even grow up in philly?
the vet means a lot to people whose first baseball game was at the vet, attended more sporting events/concerts at the vet than anywhere else, etc
the vet was a great place to be, even if it was a ***** to walk through
Assassin32
03-21-2004, 03:38 PM
There is good news and bad news about Warren Sapp becoming a Raider. The good news is, obviously, the Raiders have another great DT in Sapp, and also that him coming may encourage John Lynch to come and play for thr Raiders, too. However, the bad news is that now that the Raiders have Sapp, the Bengals might not want to send Corey Dillon over to us, because they were close to getting Sapp before we took him at the last minute.
Brodie Bruce
03-21-2004, 03:39 PM
Sapp is Crap. He's old and slow. And PLays Dirty and almost ruins careers
Assassin32
03-21-2004, 03:46 PM
If your team had signed him, you'd be poppin' a boner right now.
Brodie Bruce
03-21-2004, 03:50 PM
**** No. He is an arrogant cock who was only good 5 years ago. And It's a player on my team that he nearly crippled with his dirty paly.
Magneto29
03-21-2004, 05:15 PM
I had to watch the Vet being imploded on tv this morning. It was on tv where I was.
Ans SU's still alive ! YAY :D
PoAnTimRSexi
03-21-2004, 06:58 PM
Eh, not to support Warren Sapp, but his block on Clifton was clean. It was Clifton's fault for trying to wedge with his head down. You keep your head down like that in the open field, and someone will put you out. It's just the basics of the game.
Either way, Warren's stats are already on the decline, and it remains to be seen how he plays as a DE in Oakland's 3-4 D.
reggiebar
03-22-2004, 03:04 PM
FIANLLY! "Sugar"Shane Mosely has fired his Dad as his trainer....I have been calling for him to get rid of his old man and get a REAL trainer (BTW, Mosely should try and get Floyd Maywheather Sr. or Buddy McGuirt to train him)
Monday, March 22, 2004
Associated Press
LAS VEGAS -- Shane Mosley is looking for a new trainer after firing his father.
Mosley said Monday he and his father are severing their professional association that began when Jack Mosley first took his son to a gym to learn to box as an 8-year-old.
The decision comes in the wake of Mosley's March 13 loss to Winky Wright that cost him his 154-pound titles. Mosley said he was dehydrated for the fight and not able to do the things he thought he could do in the ring.
"I am going to miss working with my father," Mosley said in a statement released Monday. "Together, we scaled many mountains, and I would never have had the success I have had if he had not been there to guide and teach me every step of the way. He is, without question, one of the all-time great trainers. More importantly, he has been a great father who I love very much."
Mosley said he has not found a new trainer yet, but wants one as part of an overhaul of his career.
Jack Mosley said he understands his son's decision and that "part of being a good parent is knowing when to let your children go."
PoAnTimRSexi
03-22-2004, 03:20 PM
S John Lynch has signed with the Denver Broncos.
Nice pick-up for Denver. I'm actually quite surprised that he didn't sign with his buddy Herm Edwards' New York Jets.
reggiebar
03-22-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
S John Lynch has signed with the Denver Broncos.
Nice pick-up for Denver. I'm actually quite surprised that he didn't sign with his buddy Herm Edwards' New York Jets.
Denver shows more promise to win it than the Jets, so, for a veteran like Lynch, it is the logical choice to try to win again before time runs out.
Brodie Bruce
03-22-2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
Eh, not to support Warren Sapp, but his block on Clifton was clean. It was Clifton's fault for trying to wedge with his head down. You keep your head down like that in the open field, and someone will put you out. It's just the basics of the game.
Either way, Warren's stats are already on the decline, and it remains to be seen how he plays as a DE in Oakland's 3-4 D.
All of that means his hit was legal. But He plowed into him like a damn freight train when he was nowhere near teh play and had no chance of affecting the play.
TheCheshireCat
03-22-2004, 03:45 PM
How are Washington and Sapp both gonna fit on a 3-4 line? Or ANY line for that matter. I can't see Sapp playing DE...
PoAnTimRSexi
03-22-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by BrodieBruce
All of that means his hit was legal. But He plowed into him like a damn freight train when he was nowhere near teh play and had no chance of affecting the play.
That's because Warren Sapp is a fatass.
How are Washington and Sapp both gonna fit on a 3-4 line? Or ANY line for that matter. I can't see Sapp playing DE...
Washington's got the nod in size, so he'll probably play the nose. Sapp has always been more of a fat DE than a prototype DT, so it could work. Either way, his stats have already been declining, and shifting to another position could continue to effect him in a negative manner.
Illchill
03-30-2004, 07:51 AM
Well, it seems the invincible Yankee's lineup was tamed, and Ace rocked.We'll see what happens, but it is as good as can be hoped for:)
PoAnTimRSexi
03-31-2004, 01:39 PM
The Eagles traded WR James Thrash to the Redskins for a 2005 5th rounder, yesterday. I speak on behalf of all Eagles fans when I say...
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, good mother****ing bye.
That is all. :)
TheCheshireCat
03-31-2004, 05:28 PM
There's a poll on the Dolphins website about how many passes Boston will catch. What do you guys think? I guessed around 50-60.
edit: Wishful thinking. lol.
Edit again: I don't like this 15 yard rule. I loved team celebrations and I think the individual ones are hilarious(the Owens one in Dallas was a little..no).
Ben Urich
03-31-2004, 05:37 PM
Yankees win :)
TheCheshireCat
03-31-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Ben Urich
Yankees win :)
Not the world series :D
Slipknot
03-31-2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Ben Urich
Yankees win :)
Oh boy, now there tied with the Devil Rays for 1st place in the AL East, you must be so proud.
Ben Urich
03-31-2004, 05:53 PM
What hypocrites.
You guys go "Oh snap the Yankees lost!" yesterday like I'm supposd to give a ****, and I mention that they win and you guys jump down my ****ing throat.
Typical.
Slipknot
03-31-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Ben Urich
What hypocrites.
You guys go "Oh snap the Yankees lost!" yesterday like I'm supposd to give a ****, and I mention that they win and you guys jump down my ****ing throat.
Typical.
Lol, im kidding with you pal, calm down... I was kidding a bit yesterday too, I wanted to see how you would react to it. You can go on about the Yankees all you want.
TheCheshireCat
03-31-2004, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Ben Urich
What hypocrites.
You guys go "Oh snap the Yankees lost!" yesterday like I'm supposd to give a ****, and I mention that they win and you guys jump down my ****ing throat.
Typical.
I'm not a hypocrite, they're gay whether they win or lose.
Slipknot
03-31-2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
I'm not a hypocrite, they're gay whether they win or lose.
True that.
Assassin32
03-31-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
FIANLLY! "Sugar"Shane Mosely has fired his Dad as his trainer....I have been calling for him to get rid of his old man and get a REAL trainer (BTW, Mosely should try and get Floyd Maywheather Sr. or Buddy McGuirt to train him)
Monday, March 22, 2004
Associated Press
LAS VEGAS -- Shane Mosley is looking for a new trainer after firing his father.
Mosley said Monday he and his father are severing their professional association that began when Jack Mosley first took his son to a gym to learn to box as an 8-year-old.
The decision comes in the wake of Mosley's March 13 loss to Winky Wright that cost him his 154-pound titles. Mosley said he was dehydrated for the fight and not able to do the things he thought he could do in the ring.
"I am going to miss working with my father," Mosley said in a statement released Monday. "Together, we scaled many mountains, and I would never have had the success I have had if he had not been there to guide and teach me every step of the way. He is, without question, one of the all-time great trainers. More importantly, he has been a great father who I love very much."
Mosley said he has not found a new trainer yet, but wants one as part of an overhaul of his career.
Jack Mosley said he understands his son's decision and that "part of being a good parent is knowing when to let your children go."
De La Hoya whooped Mosley's ass in their last fight.
cyborg ninja 14
03-31-2004, 09:26 PM
why the hell are they playing games in japan anyway? americas pastime should be played in america for their opener! although the red sox on opening day isnt that bad at all:o
reggiebar
04-01-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Assassin32
De La Hoya whooped Mosley's ass in their last fight.
I agree De La Hoya won the last fight....I simply want to see Mosely actually fight to his endless potential which he would never have acheived if he kept his father as his trainer.
reggiebar
04-01-2004, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
There's a poll on the Dolphins website about how many passes Boston will catch. What do you guys think? I guessed around 50-60.
edit: Wishful thinking. lol.
Edit again: I don't like this 15 yard rule. I loved team celebrations and I think the individual ones are hilarious(the Owens one in Dallas was a little..no).
I saw that poll at the Site and I think he is going to catch at least 70 passes and perhaps clsoe to 85...
Honestly, Boston is going to be huge for Miami as the Dolphins offense now has two legit WRs to complement the running game of Ricky Williams...seriously, Miami's offense is going to perform completely differently this year as they won't be able to both double-team Chambers and put so many men in the blocks to stop the running game because they have a legit threat on the other side of the ball in Boston...plus, with the young tight end combos of Randy McMichael and Donald Lee along with Ed Perry the Miami offense will have weapons - period.
It is not like Miami has all that far to go honestly....the team went 10-6 last year and easily could have been 11-5 or 12-4.
The new Miami Offense Coordinator Joel Collier is going to take chances this year that Norv Turner did not take last year because there are actual weapons on offense this year.
Obviously, the whole season of Miami is going to rest on the performance of the O-Line and I think that the new additions to the line will certainly push them into the playoffs and perhaps deep.
I really like Miami's chances this year.
Slipknot
04-02-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
I saw that poll at the Site and I think he is going to catch at least 70 passes and perhaps clsoe to 85...
LOL!
reggiebar
04-02-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
LOL!
Perhaps a wager that Boston catches 70 passes this year (barring injury of course)?
Put up or shut up.....
Soundwave
04-02-2004, 02:36 PM
I don't see how Boston catching 70 passes is so far fetched. This guy has the talent to be one of the top 5 recievers in the league when he is focused. If he gets his head out of his a$$ he would be a great player.
reggiebar
04-02-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Soundwave
I don't see how Boston catching 70 passes is so far fetched. This guy has the talent to be one of the top 5 recievers in the league when he is focused. If he gets his head out of his a$$ he would be a great player.
Slipknot is a jealous little ma$$hole who pretty much disagrees with any post that I make about sports no matter how foolish he makes himself look in the process simply because I grew up 20 minutes from Yankee Stadium and am a life-long Yankee fan (typical Boston jealousy of New York).
Illchill
04-02-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Slipknot is a jealous little ma$$hole who pretty much disagrees with any post that I make about sports no matter how foolish he makes himself look in the process simply because I grew up 20 minutes from Yankee Stadium and am a life-long Yankee fan (typical Boston jealousy of New York).
I think you mistake jealousy with hatred my friend.
And about that wager, I aint speaking for Slipknot, but it would be interesting to see if he did catch 70 passes (or whatever number you guys agree on) then Slip's sig would be Yankees rule, but if not then you would make yours Red Sox rule.
TheCheshireCat
04-02-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
I saw that poll at the Site and I think he is going to catch at least 70 passes and perhaps clsoe to 85...
I agree with the rest of your post, but I think 85 is stretching it. I'd love to see it more than anything, but I'm thinking more like 60-70. You might be right with the 70 bet. It depends who opposing teams put their top cornerback on really, and how Feeley performs.
Slipknot
04-02-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Perhaps a wager that Boston catches 70 passes this year (barring injury of course)?
Put up or shut up.....
You mentioned 85 you jackass... Rickey Williams times Chris Chambers plus AJ Feely equals Boston getting about 50-65 maybe 70 catches.
Slipknot
04-02-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Slipknot is a jealous little ma$$hole who pretty much disagrees with any post that I make about sports no matter how foolish he makes himself look in the process simply because I grew up 20 minutes from Yankee Stadium and am a life-long Yankee fan (typical Boston jealousy of New York).
LOL, typical New Yorker... always talking about the Yankees because all the other New York sports teams suck. I grew up and still live about 15 minutes away from Fenway Park and to me that is a hell of a lot better than living near Yankee Stadium. Atleast here we have the Red Sox, Bruins, Celtics, and the Patriots as all winning teams. New York Rangers are a joke, Knicks are going nowhere, and the Jets and Giants are just huge dissapointments every year. Its pathetic when a New Yorker goes against his own football teams in New York and adopt a team that is 1,000 miles away... the Miami Dolphins. Its sad when people like yourself go route for other teams because your own team sucks to much. If I wanted to make you look foolish then lets talk Hockey... want to? Because you know NOTHING about it, so lets go if you know so much about it and all sports.
TheCheshireCat
04-02-2004, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
LOL, typical New Yorker... always talking about the Yankees because all the other New York sports teams suck. I grew up and still live about 15 minutes away from Fenway Park and to me that is a hell of a lot better than living near Yankee Stadium. Atleast here we have the Red Sox, Bruins, Celtics, and the Patriots as all winning teams. New York Rangers are a joke, Knicks are going nowhere, and the Jets and Giants are just huge dissapointments every year. Its pathetic when a New Yorker goes against his own football teams in New York and adopt a team that is 1,000 miles away... the Miami Dolphins. Its sad when people like yourself go route for other teams because your own team sucks to much. If I wanted to make you look foolish then lets talk Hockey... want to? Because you know NOTHING about it, so lets go if you know so much about it and all sports.
Who the hell cares about Hockey anyways? Bunch of Canadian cock smokers.
Slipknot
04-02-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Who the hell cares about Hockey anyways? Bunch of Canadian cock smokers.
Well you live in Florida, you have an excuse for not liking it.
TheCheshireCat
04-02-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Well you live in Florida, you have an excuse for not liking it.
True. It still sucks though.
reggiebar
04-04-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Slipknot
You mentioned 85 you jackass... Rickey Williams times Chris Chambers plus AJ Feely equals Boston getting about 50-65 maybe 70 catches.
Apparantly, reading isn't a strong point for you as I said, "I saw that poll at the Site and I think he is going to catch at least 70 passes and perhaps close to 85..."
Perhaps? As in perhaps he explodes and gets back to his All-Pro form and catches 85, but he will catch at least 70....
reggiebar
04-04-2004, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Slipknot
LOL, typical New Yorker... always talking about the Yankees because all the other New York sports teams suck. I grew up and still live about 15 minutes away from Fenway Park and to me that is a hell of a lot better than living near Yankee Stadium. Atleast here we have the Red Sox, Bruins, Celtics, and the Patriots as all winning teams. New York Rangers are a joke, Knicks are going nowhere, and the Jets and Giants are just huge dissapointments every year. Its pathetic when a New Yorker goes against his own football teams in New York and adopt a team that is 1,000 miles away... the Miami Dolphins. Its sad when people like yourself go route for other teams because your own team sucks to much. If I wanted to make you look foolish then lets talk Hockey... want to? Because you know NOTHING about it, so lets go if you know so much about it and all sports.
First of all, it would have been much easier to root for the New York football Giants as they have won 2 Super Bowls in my lifetime and the Miami Dolphins are a very tough team to root for year in and year out. However, as a young lad of about 5 years old, I watched a Miami Dolphins football game with an older kid from the neighborhood and instantly adopted them as my favorite football team. So, years later, I wasn't going to all of a sudden flip-flop when I really started to understand sports (for whatever reason I was exposed to Miami very young and they became my team). I went to my first New York Yankees game at about the same time as well as my first New York Knick's game. So, I had exposure to those local area teams in person, but not football. As for your statement, "Its sad when people like yourself go route for other teams because your own team sucks to much" Again, you don't know aht you are talking about asthe New York Giants have had far more success in my lifetime than Miami. So, what the F are you talking about?
As for hockey, I have repeatidly stated that I don't care for the way NHL hockey is played, so I don't follow the sport. I am a huge boxing fan and when I want to watch fighting I tune into a boxing match. If the NHL played hockey like the International game, I would follow the sport. However, they don't, so I don't follow it. BTW, I readily admit that I don't follow hockey - Do you ever see me commenting on hockey in this topic? No.
So......
Slipknot
04-04-2004, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
However, as a young lad of about 5 years old, I watched a Miami Dolphins football game with an older kid from the neighborhood and instantly adopted them as my favorite football team. So, years later, I wasn't going to all of a sudden flip-flop when I really started to understand sports (for whatever reason I was exposed to Miami very young and they became my team).
Do you have a father? If so then didnt he like any New York football team and he should have gotten you into it... not the Jets longtime rival the Miami Dolphins. Unless your father doesnt like sports or you dont have one at all then he should have gotten you into football teams not some kid that probably moved to New York from Florida.
Slipknot
04-04-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Apparantly, reading isn't a strong point for you as I said, "I saw that poll at the Site and I think he is going to catch at least 70 passes and perhaps close to 85..."
Perhaps? As in perhaps he explodes and gets back to his All-Pro form and catches 85, but he will catch at least 70....
You said 70 and perhaps 85... when I say LOL it doesnt INSTANTLY mean I meant LOL to 70 you fool... it means I laughed at the whole fact that you could even think he could get 85 with Chambers, R. Williams, AND AJ Feely... its hard to tell you this but AJ Feely is horrible at throwing the long ball and will pretty much be handing it off to Williams all game and throwing short passes to either Williams, Boston, or Chambers.
TheCheshireCat
04-04-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Do you have a father? If so then didnt he like any New York football team and he should have gotten you into it... not the Jets longtime rival the Miami Dolphins. Unless your father doesnt like sports or you dont have one at all then he should have gotten you into football teams not some kid that probably moved to New York from Florida.
You can always tell when someone isn't a Miami Fan. Miami fans can't even go to the airport and say the word "Jets" without "God damned" in front of it.
reggiebar
04-05-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Do you have a father? If so then didnt he like any New York football team and he should have gotten you into it... not the Jets longtime rival the Miami Dolphins. Unless your father doesnt like sports or you dont have one at all then he should have gotten you into football teams not some kid that probably moved to New York from Florida.
No, I never really had a relationship with my father, so I didn't have that sort of guidance when I first started liking sports. This is why I stated that I became a Miami fan from an older kid in the neighborhood.
As for baseball, my Mom got tickets to a Yankees playoff game in 77' from her work when I was 5 (my first baseball game) so I instantly became a Yankee fan. About a year or so later, I was takne to MSG and a Knick's game by a friend's Dad and that is how I became a Knicks fan. Sure, if someone else's Dad had taken me to a Giants game when I was little, I would most likely be a Giants fan, but that was not the case. FYI, as a Yankee fan, I could only have been a Giants fan as the New York teams go (Yankees/Giants/Ranger and Mets/Jets/Islanders).
Anyhow, as for your question, I was basically raised without a Father, so.....
reggiebar
04-05-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
You said 70 and perhaps 85... when I say LOL it doesnt INSTANTLY mean I meant LOL to 70 you fool... it means I laughed at the whole fact that you could even think he could get 85 with Chambers, R. Williams, AND AJ Feely... its hard to tell you this but AJ Feely is horrible at throwing the long ball and will pretty much be handing it off to Williams all game and throwing short passes to either Williams, Boston, or Chambers.
Feely can't be any worse than Firen' Fiedler at throwing the long ball :D
We will see...I still say that Boston will get 70 and perhaps upwards of 85.
BTW, next time be more specific with your posts
Slipknot
04-05-2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Feely can't be any worse than Firen' Fiedler at throwing the long ball :D
We will see...I still say that Boston will get 70 and perhaps upwards of 85.
BTW, next time be more specific with your posts
Feely is somewhat the same type of quaterback that Fiedler is except as all you Miami fans said he was, Feely isnt a proven winner like Fiedler is. 70 is a possability if Feely airs the ball out a lot which I doubt he will with Rickey Williams there... theres no way of 85 IMO though.
PoAnTimRSexi
04-05-2004, 10:21 PM
Feeley doesn't have the amount of career starts or the career win % under his belt that Fiedler has, but Feeley did take a 3rd seed Eagles team to a 4-1 record down the stretch to move them into 1st seed with Home Field Advantage; something Fielder's never accomplished. Fielder hasn't been able to take a very good team(on paper), with a very good receiving corps to the Playoffs. Feeley took over a team with no preperation and a mediocre corps to throw to, and the Eagles didn't skip a beat. It's arguable who is more "proven."
TheCheshireCat
04-05-2004, 10:23 PM
How about we wait until the season starts :up:
The only thing I like about Fiedler is his win %, the rest of him sucks.
reggiebar
04-06-2004, 10:38 AM
I have said it once and I will say it again, we have NO IDEA about AJ Feeley's abilities - period. Look around the NFL at very good and very productive QBs who were once riding the bench for other teams...Jake Delhomme anyone? Marc Bulger? Don't forget that Brett favre was once the 4th QB on the Falcons depth chart...
Basically, all I am saying is that we honeslty have no idea of AJ Feeley's abilities except what he showed going 4-1 as a starter for Illy....also, AJ showed great decesion making during that 5 game run which is something that Fiedler just doesn't have - Fiedler single handidly lost both the Texas game as well as the New England game in Miami for them last year...
As TheCheshireCat said, we will have to wait for the season to start, but really, most of us probably have better arm strength and decesion making than Fiedler.
The Green Goblin
04-06-2004, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Don't forget that Brett favre was once the 4th QB on the Falcons depth chart...
Never... Never I say, will I be able to forget that.
*clutches black #4 jersey in fetal position*:(
reggiebar
04-06-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by wareagle
Never... Never I say, will I be able to forget that.
*clutches black #4 jersey in fetal position*:(
The Black number 7 jersey might bring the dirty birds a couple of Super Bowls when all is said and done, so don't sweat it ;)
The Green Goblin
04-06-2004, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by reggiebar
The Black number 7 jersey might bring the dirty birds a couple of Super Bowls when all is said and done, so don't sweat it ;)
Amen brother! :up: Last season was like one big long case of blue balls. :batman: :D
Actually, i think i heard something about them switching to red jerseys as their main uniform. I'm old enough to remember watching them play in all red and outside at Fulton County. :o
Soundwave
04-06-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by wareagle
Amen brother! :up: Last season was like one big long case of blue balls. :batman: :D
Actually, i think i heard something about them switching to red jerseys as their main uniform. I'm old enough to remember watching them play in all red and outside at Fulton County. :o
Those were the days. Steve Bartkowski, Williams Andrews, Gerald Riggs, Billy "White Shoes" Johnson.
Slipknot
04-06-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
[B]Fiedler single handidly lost both the Texas game as well as the New England game in Miami for them last year... /B]
Well for the New England game... it was pretty much New England kicking there ass all the way around, Miami had no chance with or without Fiedler in there.
TheCheshireCat
04-06-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Well for the New England game... it was pretty much New England kicking there ass all the way around, Miami had no chance with or without Fiedler in there.
Are you serious? Miami should've won the game in Miami. We lost because Olindo Mare couldn't make @@@@ing anything. They didn't even kick our ass all the way around in New England, your offense only scored 3 points and the finally score was 12-0. That might be an ass whooping in soccer but it's not in football, so what the hell are you talking about?
reggiebar
04-06-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Well for the New England game... it was pretty much New England kicking there ass all the way around, Miami had no chance with or without Fiedler in there.
If you actually read my post you would have known that I said, "as well as the New England game in Miami"....the OT game in Miami - October 19th in Miami - remember? It was an overtime game that Miami lost 19-13...remember? Mare missed two field goals because of the infield dirt (Marlins in the World Series)...Jason Taylor sacked Brady on thrid down in OT and then Fiedler immediatly threw an interception when Miami got the ball back...please, Miami dominated that game...
Yet, another time when Slipknot (The Fountain of Misinformaiton) attacks one of my posts with inane babble...keep it up and perhaps one of these days you will break your streak of me continually schooling your sorry a$$
Slipknot
04-06-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
If you actually read my post you would have known that I said, "as well as the New England game in Miami"....the OT game in Miami - October 19th in Miami - remember? It was an overtime game that Miami lost 19-13...remember? Mare missed two field goals because of the infield dirt (Marlins in the World Series)...Jason Taylor sacked Brady on thrid down in OT and then Fiedler immediatly threw an interception when Miami got the ball back...please, Miami dominated that game...
Yet, another time when Slipknot (The Fountain of Misinformaiton) attacks one of my posts with inane babble...keep it up and perhaps one of these days you will break your streak of me continually schooling your sorry a$$
Lol, calm down buddy... I mean jesus christ, having a bad day today? I thought you meant the game in New England... we won both and thats the only reason your jumping back on me so hard, you Miami fans will never admit a loss... its always a players fault, never the whole teams fault. If you want to really talk dominated games then lets talk the game in New England where we kicked your ass.
TheCheshireCat
04-06-2004, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Lol, calm down buddy... I mean jesus christ, having a bad day today? I thought you meant the game in New England... we won both and thats the only reason your jumping back on me so hard, you Miami fans will never admit a loss... its always a players fault, never the whole teams fault. If you want to really talk dominated games then lets talk the game in New England where we kicked your ass.
Jesus Christ you're dumb. It actually was a player's fault. He missed two short field goals. Either one and we would've won the game, so don't be retarded.
12-0 is not domination. "your offense only scored 3 points and the final score was 12-0. That might be an ass whooping in soccer but it's not in football, so what the hell are you talking about?"
The Green Goblin
04-06-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Soundwave
Those were the days. Steve Bartkowski, Williams Andrews, Gerald Riggs, Billy "White Shoes" Johnson.
Oh hell yeah! Bart was the man! :up:
I have all those guys' autographs. :cool: ...except Riggs I think.
Hard to believe Riggs has son in college ball. He's a RB at Tennessee.
Illchill
04-06-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
If you actually read my post you would have known that I said, "as well as the New England game in Miami"....the OT game in Miami - October 19th in Miami - remember? It was an overtime game that Miami lost 19-13...remember? Mare missed two field goals because of the infield dirt (Marlins in the World Series)...Jason Taylor sacked Brady on thrid down in OT and then Fiedler immediatly threw an interception when Miami got the ball back...please, Miami dominated that game...
Yet, another time when Slipknot (The Fountain of Misinformaiton) attacks one of my posts with inane babble...keep it up and perhaps one of these days you will break your streak of me continually schooling your sorry a$$
Sigh, a lot of my friends here in Mass are Titans and jets fans, and they say the stuff kinda similar to that."Oh, the Pats dont really win, it is just by 3 points every time.""The Patriots aren't a really great team, they just barely win."Well yea, they may get outplayed NOW AND THEN, but rarely, and when they do, they WIN the game.I think that is all that should matter.
However, it is MLB season, and Schil was N-A-S-T-Y NASTY!!!
TheCheshireCat
04-06-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Illchill
Sigh, a lot of my friends here in Mass are Titans and jets fans, and they say the stuff kinda similar to that."Oh, the Pats dont really win, it is just by 3 points every time.""The Patriots aren't a really great team, they just barely win."Well yea, they may get outplayed NOW AND THEN, but rarely, and when they do, they WIN the game.I think that is all that should matter.
However, it is MLB season, and Schil was N-A-S-T-Y NASTY!!!
Lol. No one is questioning the Pat's season. That one game, however, was won because Mare missed two field goals.
Illchill
04-06-2004, 08:27 PM
Hey guys, I want to be a sports writer when I grow up, or a sports analyst or sports broadcaster or something of the sort.How would you guys say this article is that I just wrote on the Sox season opener, please tell what you think drags it down and pulls it up, and suggestions.
Illchill
04-06-2004, 08:27 PM
SOX GET "O"WNED
Pedro, Sox, drop the ball in season opener
Sox fans have been waiting for and expecting a win since it became "Grady Little" season in Boston.They will have to continue to wait after the BoSox couldn't pull out a win over a vastly improved Oriole club.
Pedro Martinez (6 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K) was sub-par at best in the beggining as he started his 7th straight season opener for the Sox, in which they has lost the last 4.The defending AL Wildcard champions looked like someone forgot to tell them that Spring Training was over, with little excitement and little effort as Baltimore ace Sidney Ponson (5.2 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K) pulled out very well-deserved win against a Boston offense that ranked first in the Majors last year.
The Sox co-ace looked rusty in the 1st inning, but dreadful in the 2nd. Pedro, who left the Camden Yards before the game was over, let up a first pitch homerun to former Brave slugger Javy Lopez, in his first AL at-bat. Next thing you knew, Jay Gibbons was standing on second after a single and stolen base, and David Segui was drilled by Pedro in the ribs.Larry Bigbie then dribbled a soft grounder to the right of the mound, where Martinez threw it away from Millar at first to let one score.The last blow of the inning was a Luis Matos RBI single on the next at-bat.
Maybe it was Pedro's short temper that got the best of him, but whatever it was it dominated the O's from there on out, allowing only 2 hits over the last four innings with 5 strikeouts.
However, the blame was plenty large enough to go around, as the Sox offense, while gathering 11 hits, got only 2 runs.Manny Ramirez, hitting in the number 3 spot while Nomar Garciaparre recovers from a problem with his Achille's tendon, seems to see the ball well while lacing a couple of hits, including one to knock in Pokey Reese from scoring postion, who walked.Bill Mueller and Mark Bellhorn were other bright spots, as the defending AL Batting Champ gathered 3 hits, and reserve infielder grabbed a pair of his own. But 14 baserunners left on base was too much to overcome for an offense that, according to manager new Sox manager Terry Francona,"just couldn't get the big hit."
Speaking of the new Sox skipper, he made a very questionable call at a crucial stage in the game when, with Pokey Reese at bat and down by two with the tying runs in scoring position and two outs, called for a bunt, that was unsuccesful.The Sox didn't score there, and didn't score at all until the 8th inning, when Johnny Damon hit a RBI fielder's choice.
When Mike Timlin, the Sox most reliable and accurate reliever last year (only 9 BB), walked the first two Oriole batters in the 7th and let up 3 runs.The biggest blow against them was Javy Lopez' two-run double in that inning, and the inning ended up giving Baltimore a 6-1 lead.Timlin bypassed the excuses by simply stating that he "wasn't good".
The Red Sox will have plenty of chance to get there revenge on the o's, as they will see their AL East rivals 18 more times this year, the soonest being Tuesday when off season acquistion Curt Schilling takes the mound for the Sox against lefty Eric DuBose.
Illchill
04-06-2004, 08:28 PM
There are appropriate indentations, it just wont show them on Hype.
TheCheshireCat
04-06-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Illchill
SOX GET "O"WNED
Pedro, Sox, drop the ball in season opener
Sox fans have been waiting for and expecting a win since it became "Grady Little" season in Boston.They will have to continue to wait after the BoSox couldn't pull out a win over a vastly improved Oriole club.
Pedro Martinez (6 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K) was sub-par at best in the beggining as he started his 7th straight season opener for the Sox, in which they has lost the last 4.The defending AL Wildcard champions looked like someone forgot to tell them that Spring Training was over, with little excitement and little effort as Baltimore ace Sidney Ponson (5.2 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K) pulled out very well-deserved win against a Boston offense that ranked first in the Majors last year.
It should be "in which they have lost..."
I don't like the wording of the Spring Training bit. I think it should be like
"Apparently no one told the defending AL Wildcard champions that Spring Training was over as they put out little effort and little excitement against Baltimore ace Sidney Ponson (5.2 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K), who pulled out very well-deserved win against a Boston offense that ranked first in the Majors last year."
That's just my opinion.
Originally posted by Illchill
The Sox co-ace looked rusty in the 1st inning and dreadful in the 2nd. Pedro, who left the Camden Yards before the game was over, let up a first pitch homerun to former Brave slugger Javy Lopez, in his first AL at-bat. Next thing you knew, Jay Gibbons was standing on second after a single and a stolen base, and David Segui was drilled by Pedro in the ribs. Larry Bigbie then dribbled a soft grounder to the right of the mound, where Martinez threw it away from Millar at first to let one score.The last blow of the inning was a Luis Matos RBI single on the next at-bat.
Maybe it was Pedro's short temper that got the best of him, but whatever it was it dominated the O's from there on out, allowing only 2 hits over the last four innings with 5 strikeouts.
However, the blame was plentiful enough to go around, as the Sox offense, while gathering 11 hits, got only 2 runs. Manny Ramirez, hitting in the number 3 spot while Nomar Garciaparre recovers from a problem with his Achille's tendon, seems to see the ball well while lacing a couple of hits, including one to knock in Pokey Reese from scoring postion, who walked.Bill Mueller and Mark Bellhorn were other bright spots, as the defending AL Batting Champ gathered 3 hits, and the reserve infielder grabbed a pair of his own. But 14 baserunners left on base was too much to overcome for an offense that, according to new Sox manager Terry Francona,"just couldn't get the big hit."
Speaking of the new Sox skipper, he made a very questionable call at a crucial stage in the game when, with Pokey Reese at bat and down by two with the tying runs in scoring position and two outs, called for a bunt, that was unsuccesful.The Sox didn't score there, and didn't score at all until the 8th inning, when Johnny Damon hit a RBI fielder's choice.
Then Mike Timlin, the Sox most reliable and accurate reliever last year (only 9 BB), walked the first two Oriole batters in the 7th and let up 3 runs. However, the biggest blow against them was Javy Lopez' two-run double in that inning, which ended up giving Baltimore a 6-1 lead.Timlin bypassed the excuses by simply stating that he "wasn't good".
The Red Sox will have plenty of chance to get there revenge on the o's, as they will see their AL East rivals 18 more times this year, the soonest being Tuesday when off season acquistion Curt Schilling takes the mound for the Sox against lefty Eric DuBose.
I'm just going to go ahead and make little improvements to this inside it.
Illchill
04-06-2004, 08:55 PM
I agee with you with the first part about Sring Training.I just whipped this together quickly, so there may be grammer errors here and there.I just don't see any corrections inside the big part, but thanks for your input.
Illchill
04-06-2004, 09:32 PM
And Bonds will be up in a minute.Could he tie ol' Willie?
Slipknot
04-06-2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Jesus Christ you're dumb. It actually was a player's fault. He missed two short field goals. Either one and we would've won the game, so don't be retarded.
12-0 is not domination. "your offense only scored 3 points and the final score was 12-0. That might be an ass whooping in soccer but it's not in football, so what the hell are you talking about?"
Heh.
reggiebar
04-07-2004, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Illchill
Sigh, a lot of my friends here in Mass are Titans and jets fans, and they say the stuff kinda similar to that."Oh, the Pats dont really win, it is just by 3 points every time.""The Patriots aren't a really great team, they just barely win."Well yea, they may get outplayed NOW AND THEN, but rarely, and when they do, they WIN the game.I think that is all that should matter.
However, it is MLB season, and Schil was N-A-S-T-Y NASTY!!!
I am not saying that New England was not the best football team in the NFL last year at all as I have given them their due - that is not the issue...
I said, "Fiedler single handidly lost both the Texas game as well as the New England game in Miami for them last year..." and then Slipknot had to answer with some total B.S. to attempt to attack my posts (because that is what he tries)...I was merely pointing out how Fiedler characteristically throws an INT in OT after Taylor sacked Brady making NE punt and sending all momentum back to Miami
Illchill
04-07-2004, 09:29 PM
B's win their first playoff game, a great win.
Sox get a 10-3 win with D-Lowe throwing 6 inning and 2 ER.Johnny Damon went an astounding 5-5 and Ortiz hit a three run homer.
Slipknot
04-07-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Illchill
B's win their first playoff game, a great win.
Sox get a 10-3 win with D-Lowe throwing 6 inning and 2 ER.Johnny Damon went an astounding 5-5 and Ortiz hit a three run homer.
GREAT night of sports.
PoAnTimRSexi
04-07-2004, 10:08 PM
I got the first taste of the lethal Tim Worrell/Billy Wagner duo tonight, as the Phillies came back from behind to beat the Pirates 5-4. Wagner came in and struck out the side for the save... filthy stuff.
My other team, the Cubs, lost 3-1. Maddux had a pretty solid outing with the exception of giving up bombs to Griffey and Dunn. The offense failed him... stranded too many people.
So both my teams are now 1-1. whee.
Slipknot
04-08-2004, 01:50 PM
Burrell might actualy start to hit again this year.
Illchill
04-08-2004, 09:30 PM
AHHHHH!!!First really big memorable moment of year for Sox, just haapened.Whether they win or not, this one had me leaping up and down in my living room.Mora, a speedster, on 3rd with NO outs.Tejada strikes out.Palmiero is intentionally walked.Javy Lopez hits a high fly to Damon, not known for his arm to say the least, and he guns down Mora at plate BARELY!GO SOX!
Illchill
04-08-2004, 09:56 PM
O man this game is ognna get the best of me.
Slipknot
04-08-2004, 10:46 PM
That umpire sucked so much.
PoAnTimRSexi
04-08-2004, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Burrell might actualy start to hit again this year.
Burrell was 5-for-7 with 2 RBIs before today, in which he went 0-4. But, he's improved his mechanics, and it should help him. He's keeping his leading shoulder down and his head steady, and it's already showing a little, as he's making much better contact than he did last year. He'll have a big year... or atleast I hope so, because he's a key to the line-up, hitting inbetween lefties Jim Thome and Bobby Abreu.
Both my teams are 1-2 at the moment, which is teh suck. But it's not too much of a hole, so they'll rebound.
reggiebar
04-09-2004, 08:59 AM
Honestly, nothing matters in baseball until after May....
However, I did LOVE that during a pre-game interview for the Yankee home opener at the stadium yesterday, George Stienbrenner got all chocked up because the fans were loudly chanting at him, "THANK YOU GEORGE! THANK YOU GEORGE!"
We appreciate what the owener does in the Boodie Down Bronx toi field the best team possible!
PoAnTimRSexi
04-11-2004, 04:26 AM
For my birthday yesterday, I got my own #81 Terrell Owens Philadelphia Eagles away jersey. It's beautiful, and will only leave my back when I shower. :up:
I also got that "MLB Extra Innings" digital cable service where you get 10 out of market baseball games every day... so I'm prepared to watch nothing but baseball for months.
TheCheshireCat
04-11-2004, 11:28 AM
Everybody's doing the fish :cool:
Illchill
04-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Cool, and Happy Birthday.BTW, all the Pedro doubters, just know that he was dominant last night againt the Jays, and today we got the big Schilbowski.
!~INSANITY~!
04-11-2004, 03:01 PM
He gave up a two run homer to hinske but he did strikeout 8 at this moment
cyborg ninja 14
04-11-2004, 07:51 PM
damn, the D-backs are off to a 2-4 start.:mad:
TheCheshireCat
04-11-2004, 08:35 PM
Beckett is so cool.
Slipknot
04-11-2004, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Beckett is so cool.
...
TheCheshireCat
04-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
...
Does it need explanation?
11K 7 IP and 0.00 ERA today with the win :)
Slipknot
04-11-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Does it need explanation?
11K 7 IP and 0.00 ERA today with the win :)
It just sounded gay, thats all. You should have used awesome or something instead of cool, maybe its just that I dont refer to people as cool.
TheCheshireCat
04-11-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
It just sounded gay, thats all. You should have used awesome or something instead of cool, maybe its just that I dont refer to people as cool.
Sorry I'm not so insecure that I alter my vocabulary to suit a certain sexual preference :rolleyes:
edit: Beckett is Godsent
TheCheshireCat
04-11-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Bloody Mary
CC, turn in answers.
I'll do it tomorrow!
Slipknot
04-11-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Sorry I'm not so insecure that I alter my vocabulary to suit a certain sexual preference :rolleyes:
edit: Beckett is Godsent
Lol, if I heard you say that someone is sooooooo cool and you were a guy talking about a guy then im sorry but that just sounds bad to me. It sounds like your his !!!!! and hes your idol.
TheCheshireCat
04-11-2004, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Lol, if I heard you say that someone is sooooooo cool and you were a guy talking about a guy then im sorry but that just sounds bad to me. It sounds like your his !!!!! and hes your idol.
And if I heard you say awesome I'd call you a cock smoking surfer. Fine, Beckett is str8 up tight.
PoAnTimRSexi
04-12-2004, 11:42 AM
I hate Josh Beckett. He completely ***** slapped the Phillies. On that note, I hate the Phillies too. If Prior and Oswalt can't get in 30 starts, I expect Beckett to be a strong Cy contender.
The Phillies open up Citizen's Bank Park today. Wish I could be there... hopefully I'll get to a game in May. Greg Maddux also starts the Cubs home opener today... hopefully he'll get a little more run support today than in his last start.
Oh yeah, since I haven't mentioned this before... Go Flyers! 2 up on the Devils. :up:
!~INSANITY~!
04-12-2004, 01:56 PM
Yeah the Marlins are doing good this year,but mainly becuz of Armando Benitez as the closer,wow 5 saves in 6 games
Slipknot
04-12-2004, 02:09 PM
I hope Buehrle does good again this year after his !!!!ty first half last year. I have him in fantasy and he better not screw up.
!~INSANITY~!
04-12-2004, 02:11 PM
Yeah he should have a good year...his starts are kinda in a pattern 19-11, 14-14, yeah he should do good, he's the true ace of the team,Loaiza won't get 20 wins again this year :o
Slipknot
04-12-2004, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by !~INSANITY~!
Yeah he should have a good year...his starts are kinda in a pattern 19-11, 14-14, yeah he should do good, he's the true ace of the team,Loaiza won't get 20 wins again this year :o
I'll be suprised if Loaiza gets 15 wins.
!~INSANITY~!
04-12-2004, 02:18 PM
Well, the red sox have garciaparra,damon,and i think nixon out with injuries...meh...theyre doing quite well without them, I like Reese
Slipknot
04-12-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by !~INSANITY~!
Well, the red sox have garciaparra,damon,and i think nixon out with injuries...meh...theyre doing quite well without them, I like Reese
Yeah, I like him and Bellhorn, Mark draws walks and should be pretty good this year. But the biggest suprise so far and the guy I think could really be good this year is Mark Malaska, he was awesome in his 2 games he played under quite a lot of pressure too.
!~INSANITY~!
04-12-2004, 02:26 PM
Yeah malaska is good one,hey isn't kim s'posed to be in the rotation?
Slipknot
04-12-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by !~INSANITY~!
Yeah malaska is good one,hey isn't kim s'posed to be in the rotation?
Kim is on the DL, when he gets back he might join the rotation... if he looks good.
TheCheshireCat
04-12-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by !~INSANITY~!
garciaparra
Bastard :mad:
PoAnTimRSexi
04-12-2004, 03:21 PM
The Phillies fall to 1-6, after a pathetic offensive output(against Paul Wilson, for Christ's sake). Death to them all.
The Cubs are losing 7-2, to the Pirates. Death to them all, too.
Soundwave
04-12-2004, 03:23 PM
Did anybody watch the Masters yesterday? The last 9 holes were awesome. Mickelson made every shot he had to. He made a hell of a comeback and the crowd was electric. I wanted to watch baseball but I couldn't turn away from the Masters. It was pretty exciting.
reggiebar
04-12-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
The Phillies fall to 1-6, after a pathetic offensive output(against Paul Wilson, for Christ's sake). Death to them all.
The Cubs are losing 7-2, to the Pirates. Death to them all, too.
Good thing that the World Series isn't played in April, huh?
Seriously, you can't really even begin to look at baseball records until at least the end of April, if not the end of May....I wouldn't worry too much about the above....
Soundwave
04-12-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by PoAnTimRSexi
The Phillies fall to 1-6, after a pathetic offensive output(against Paul Wilson, for Christ's sake). Death to them all.
The Cubs are losing 7-2, to the Pirates. Death to them all, too.
Man, Philly's offense is really struggling so far. I know it's early but they better get it together or else Larry Bowa might have a serious roid-rage and kick everybody's a$$.
Oakley
04-12-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by wareagle
Never... Never I say, will I be able to forget that.
*clutches black #4 jersey in fetal position*:(
He'll father my children. Just you wait. His wife is toast.
Slipknot
04-12-2004, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Bastard :mad:
Lol, because hes on your DL, that sucks... but you have Orlando Cabrera, hes up there witht he top Short Stop's.
PoAnTimRSexi
04-12-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Good thing that the World Series isn't played in April, huh?
Seriously, you can't really even begin to look at baseball records until at least the end of April, if not the end of May....I wouldn't worry too much about the above....
Yeah, I agree, but it's still just as frustrating. Even more so when you consider the Phillies were one of the best teams in baseball halfway through the season last year, and then choked in the last 2 months. I'm afraid if they get off to an awful start, they'll never recover. :(
Illchill
04-12-2004, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Good thing that the World Series isn't played in April, huh?
Seriously, you can't really even begin to look at baseball records until at least the end of April, if not the end of May....I wouldn't worry too much about the above....
Besides certain momentums, a win in April and a win in September both put a 1 in the win column and are the same.If the Phillies won maybe two more early last year, then the Marlins wouldnt have won the World Series probably.
Illchill
04-12-2004, 06:28 PM
Also, congrats to Barry.Whether he juices up or not, it does take some skill no matter how much you take the roids to get to that mark.
Slipknot
04-12-2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
However, I did LOVE that during a pre-game interview for the Yankee home opener at the stadium yesterday, George Stienbrenner got all chocked up because the fans were loudly chanting at him, "THANK YOU GEORGE! THANK YOU GEORGE!"
We appreciate what the owener does in the Boodie Down Bronx toi field the best team possible!
http://ee.domaindlx.com/Slipkn0t/2.jpg
cyborg ninja 14
04-12-2004, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by TheCheshireCat
Does it need explanation?
11K 7 IP and 0.00 ERA today with the win :)
Actually Beckett looks like a Curt Schilling-esc. pitcher IMO. The way he fires that fastball remindes me of Schil whenever he pitches.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 08:48 AM
The Denver Nuggets are going to the playoffs after beating the Kings last night and ending the 21 year Portland run and 20 year Utah run in the playoffs.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 09:29 AM
Okay, I think that now it is undeniable that Carmelo Anthony is one of the NBA's best small forwards - period!
It is not even open for debate...21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG, 1.2 SPG as a Rookie who was the Nuggets team leader and led the turn around from 17 wins last season to 43 wins this season (that is 26 more wins than last year with one game to go) and Denver makes the playoffs for the first time in 9 seasons!!!
Crow for lunch all around for those of you who doubted the truth about Melo's game as he is one of the NBA's best.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Illchill
Besides certain momentums, a win in April and a win in September both put a 1 in the win column and are the same.If the Phillies won maybe two more early last year, then the Marlins wouldnt have won the World Series probably.
The Marlins? Let me remind you that the Marlins were 19-29 on May 22nd last year.
Not for nothing, but "typical Boston fan" who believes that April and May mean anything in the long run of a baseball season....
When the Yankees started out 1-4 in 1998 were you counting them out? (They won 114 games that year BTW)
Please.....
Soundwave
04-13-2004, 09:54 AM
Rangers take 3 of 4 from the mighty Angels. It's still early and they're gonna lose a lot of games this year but they have a solid young nucleus of players to build around(Blalock, Texiera, Young, Soriano, Nix, Mench, Cordero) If we can ever develop some pitching watch out!
Illchill
04-13-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
The Marlins? Let me remind you that the Marlins were 19-29 on May 22nd last year.
Not for nothing, but "typical Boston fan" who believes that April and May mean anything in the long run of a baseball season....
When the Yankees started out 1-4 in 1998 were you counting them out? (They won 114 games that year BTW)
Please.....
I am in school and should be doing spreadsheets, so I'll keep it short, but a win now counts the same as a wn later in the year, it helps the same, except for maybe certain momentum depending on who its against and when.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Okay, I think that now it is undeniable that Carmelo Anthony is one of the NBA's best small forwards - period!
It is not even open for debate...21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG, 1.2 SPG as a Rookie who was the Nuggets team leader and led the turn around from 17 wins last season to 43 wins this season (that is 26 more wins than last year with one game to go) and Denver makes the playoffs for the first time in 9 seasons!!!
Crow for lunch all around for those of you who doubted the truth about Melo's game as he is one of the NBA's best.
Here you go again with your little lover... Carmello is a top one but theres still a lot of Small Forwards ahead of him.
Kevin Garnett
Peja Stojakovic
Shawn Marion
Andrei Kirilenko
Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Then theres Carmello Anthony.
He is undoubtably one of the top rookies and most likely will win the Rookie of the year award but hes no number one player in the league as you talk about him.
The Nuggets are straggling into the playoffs if they make it because they went 9-8 in January, 5-7 in Febuary, and then 6-9 in March and April will now be the first winning month since Febuary. Carmello doesnt pass the ball PERIOD when he has Nene Hilario, Earl Boykins, Marcus Camby, Voshon Lenard, and Andre Miller to pass to and he never does, that will be the ultimate demise of the Nuggets in the playoffs. They need to get back to the team effort that they had back in October and November... they might be starting to come out of there little skid now with the wins I April but there still barely getting in the playoffs.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Soundwave
Rangers take 3 of 4 from the mighty Angels. It's still early and they're gonna lose a lot of games this year but they have a solid young nucleus of players to build around(Blalock, Texiera, Young, Soriano, Nix, Mench, Cordero) If we can ever develop some pitching watch out!
Teixiera and Blalock are awesome.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Here you go again with your little lover... Carmello is a top one but theres still a lot of Small Forwards ahead of him.
Kevin Garnett
Peja Stojakovic
Shawn Marion
Andrei Kirilenko
Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Then theres Carmello Anthony.
He is undoubtably one of the top rookies and most likely will win the Rookie of the year award but hes no number one player in the league as you talk about him.
The Nuggets are straggling into the playoffs if they make it because they went 9-8 in January, 5-7 in Febuary, and then 6-9 in March and April will now be the first winning month since Febuary. Carmello doesnt pass the ball PERIOD when he has Nene Hilario, Earl Boykins, Marcus Camby, Voshon Lenard, and Andre Miller to pass to and he never does, that will be the ultimate demise of the Nuggets in the playoffs. They need to get back to the team effort that they had back in October and November... they might be starting to come out of there little skid now with the wins I April but there still barely getting in the playoffs.
Kevin Garnett is NOT a small forward (he plays all 5 positions really, but he is the MINN PF and is listed as such)
Carmelo is BETTER than Shawn Marion - (Look at their stats Stat Geek) MARION - PPG 18.9, RPG 9.3 APG 2.7 / CARMELO 21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG (BTW, who is in the playoffs/)
Andre Kirilenko is NOT a small forward (He is even listed as a PF anywhere you look, so save it)
Carmelo is BETTER than Rashard Lewis - (Look at their stats Stat Geek) LEWIS PPG - 17.9 , RPG - 6.5 APG - 2.2 / CARMELO 21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG
Carmelo is BETTER than Ron Artest (Look at their stats Stat Geek) Artest PPG 18.3, RPG 5.3, APG 3.7 / CARMELO 21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG
I agree that Peja's better and I would also say that Latrell Sprewell is better...however, I said, quote "I think that now it is undeniable that Carmelo Anthony is one of the NBA's best small forwards - period!" Carmelo is one of the 5 Best Small Forwards in the NBA - period (He is actually one of the best 3, but I will say 5 to be safe).
BTW, next time you try to come at me, actually know what you are talking about, because Kevin Garnett and Andrei Kirilenko ARE NOT Small Forwards. Also, Shawn Marion? Rashard Lewis? Not only are Carmelo's numbers better, but Denver IS IN THE PLAYOFFS, you stupid fool! Oh, Ron Artest? Okay, I will admit he is a better Defender (one of the best in the NBA), but Carmelo is a far superior offensive player and can be argued as the better overall player.
Seriously, Carmelo Anthony as a rookie was asked back in March to take over the team and what did he do? How about lead Denver into the playoffs in the F'n West...not the sorry East where Boston makes the playoffs with a sub .500 record - THE WEST!
You continue to show your lack of sports knowledge every time you attempt to pull this crap with me as if you can't give Carmelo props for being one of the 5 best Small Forwarrds in the NBA you know nothing about sports and are attacking me just because of your New York Yankee jealousy.
Try again little man as you continue to show you know nothing about the NBA.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
If the NBA had an extra spot in the East and West in the All Star game then yes they would have deserved to go and would have gone but that isnt the case... Kirilenko leads Carmelo in tons of catagories other than points per game. Kirilenko will represent the Utah Jazz and you have no right to say he didnt deserve the spot and BTW if you look to see at the positians they both play then you would see that Carmelo plays Small Forward and Kirilenk plays Power Forward ( A much harder position to play) and the lack of great power forwards in the West might have been a factor in it as well so please enough of you repeated posts.
Hey Slipknot, you huge a$$hole, back in February at the All-Star break you seemed to know Kirilenko played Power Forward.
Why do you continue to allow yourself to get used the way you do...just stop trying to attack my posts as you keep making an a$$ out of yourself.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Kevin Garnett is NOT a small forward (he plays all 5 positions really, but he is the MINN PF and is listed as such)
Carmelo is BETTER than Shawn Marion - (Look at their stats Stat Geek) MARION - PPG 18.9, RPG 9.3 APG 2.7 / CARMELO 21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG (BTW, who is in the playoffs/)
Andre Kirilenko is NOT a small forward (He is even listed as a PF anywhere you look, so save it)
Carmelo is BETTER than Rashard Lewis - (Look at their stats Stat Geek) LEWIS PPG - 17.9 , RPG - 6.5 APG - 2.2 / CARMELO 21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG
Carmelo is BETTER than Ron Artest (Look at their stats Stat Geek) Artest PPG 18.3, RPG 5.3, APG 3.7 / CARMELO 21.1 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.8 APG
Kevin Garnett and Andre Kirilenko both have played Small Forward this year.
Okay, Shawn Marion vs. Carmelo Anthony...
Marion: .440 FG%, .852 FT%, 85 3PTM, 1455 PTS, 718 REB, 206 AST, 162 ST, 103 BLK, 150 TO
Anthony: .427 FG%, .777 FT%, 68 3PTM, 1713 PTS, 494 REB, 227 AST, 87 ST, 41 BLK, 246 TO
Read them... thats 6 stat wins to 3 stat wins for Shawn Marion... wow, I guess Carmelo really owned Marion didnt he you jackass.
Now... Rashard Lewis vs. Carmelo Anthony
Lewis: .437 FG%, .760 FT%, 145 3PTM, 1416 PTS, 517 REB, 174 AST, 98 ST, 54 BLK, 135 TO
Anthony: .427 FG%, .777 FT%, 68 3PTM, 1713 PTS, 494 REB, 227 AST, 87 ST, 41 BLK, 246 TO
Lets add up them stat wins now.
Lewis with 5 stat wins and Carmelo with 4 wins, close but no cigar.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Seriously, Carmelo Anthony as a rookie was asked back in March to take over the team and what did he do? How about lead Denver into the playoffs in the F'n West...not the sorry East where Boston makes the playoffs with a sub .500 record - THE WEST!
He wasnt asked to take over the whole team... its supposed to be a team and you seem to think its all Carmelo, well your wrong. They have a huge cast of good players, not only Carmelo.
The Boston Celtics tend to do well against those all mighty Denver Nuggets... winning 116-111 in there first meeting December 7, and then again they beat there ass again on March 17 winning 104-100.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Hey Slipknot, you huge a$$hole, back in February at the All-Star break you seemed to know Kirilenko played Power Forward.
Why do you continue to allow yourself to get used the way you do...just stop trying to attack my posts as you keep making an a$$ out of yourself.
He plays both Power Forward and Small Forward, and hes better than your college sweetheart Carmelo Anthony.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
He wasnt asked to take over the whole team... its supposed to be a team and you seem to think its all Carmelo, well your wrong. They have a huge cast of good players, not only Carmelo.
He wasn't aked to take over the team? Read below you idiot!
From Orangeman To Gold Nugget
By Michael Wilbon
Wednesday, March 10, 2004; Page D01
It wasn't yet noon, and morning shoot-around hadn't started at MCI Center. But Jeff Bzdelik had something important to tell his prized rookie, who is also his franchise player, a kid the NBA is counting on to be great for a long time. The coach pulled the kid aside and told him, "Today is the day that you have to take over this team." It's not something Carmelo Anthony was expecting to hear, even though just 13 months ago, during his freshman season at Syracuse, Coach Jim Boeheim had pretty much done the same thing.
"I told him about Magic Johnson in his rookie year," Bzdelik said. "About the times Magic scored a half-dozen points but controlled the game and led a team full of guys 10 and 15 years older than he was. I told him he has the physical ability to do it and the maturity, that maturity doesn't always correlate to age."
And while the Nuggets have been Anthony's team all season, it became official yesterday at that pregame shoot-around in Washington, just down the road from where he grew up, in Towson. Given where the Nuggets were last season, no team in the league was more impressive through the first 50 games of this season. But they had collectively hit the wall lately, lost eight of nine to drop into the eighth and final playoff spot in the Western Conference. And Bzdelik, the former Wizards assistant who has done a marvelous job, though apparently unappreciated by Denver executives, knew what he had to do for the stretch run.
Asked before last night's game against the Wizards whether he's ready to handle that responsibility, Anthony answered, "Yes, I am. I'm ready to stand up to it. Coach Boeheim came to me and said pretty much the same thing in the middle of the [Big East] season last year, and yeah, I was pretty comfortable with it. But I didn't have to really say anything to lead at the college level. I know there are probably some guys who in the back of their minds are thinking, 'Damn, this 20-year-old is trying to lead this team?' "
It's fine because this 20-year-old is the best rookie in the NBA. That's right, if I was voting for rookie of the year right now, today, I'd cast my vote for Anthony over LeBron James and not spend a whole lot of time agonizing over the decision.
Okay, I'd better start by saying that LeBron has been better than the hype, which seemed impossible a year ago. No athlete in team sports history has come into a league facing bigger expectations, and he has met every challenge. LeBron has been a dream from Day 1, a great player and a better teammate. Anybody who says a single negative thing about what he has done this season is a fool.
It's just that Carmelo has been better. Last year, before he arrived in Denver, the Nuggets won 17 games. After beating the Wizards like a drum last night, the Nuggets with Anthony have won 34 games. Don't waste a lot of time with the individual numbers because little separates the two. LeBron averages 20.9 points per game, Carmelo averages 20.3. Carmelo averages 6.2 rebounds, LeBron averages 5.8 rebounds. LeBron, Cleveland's point guard, understandably averages more assists, 5.6 to Carmelo's 2.7. LeBron has Cleveland playing its best basketball of the season (8-2 in its last 10 games), and the Cavs should make the playoffs. In Carmelo's first 35 games (the same number of games he played at Syracuse last year), he averaged 18 points and 6.1 rebounds while shooting 39.2 percent. Since then, the numbers are 22.9 points, 6.6 rebounds and 46.7 percent.
So all that's fairly even. Here's what isn't close.
LeBron's team, playing in the stunningly inferior Eastern Conference, is 28-36. Carmelo's team, having to slug it out in the vastly superior Western Conference, is 34-31. If Denver was playing in the Eastern Conference, the Nuggets would be the fourth-best team, behind the Pacers, Pistons and Nets.
And forget this moronic notion that Carmelo's team is somehow more talented. It isn't. LeBron has better players to run with by a mile, most notably 7-foot Zydrunas Ilgauskas (the best center in the East if you consider Jermaine O'Neal a forward), Carlos Boozer, who is averaging 11 rebounds a game, and a valuable role player in ex-Celtic Eric Williams. That's four legit players.
Carmelo has Andre Miller, who knows how to run a team, but not much else beyond that. Brazilian forward Néné is going to be a fine power forward in a couple of years, but right now he needs a translator during games. The team still can't depend on Marcus Camby, who is the epitome of a "sometime" player. And Voshon Lenard has a nice long-range stroke, but that's pretty much his only dimension.
It's Carmelo, silly.
"I think he has the passion to be a good leader," Bzdelik said. "He's coachable. He asks intelligent questions. Some players don't look at you when they're asking questions; Carmelo is locked in on you. He's all about winning." Asked about a report in Denver a few weeks ago that there was a rift between the two, Bzdelik said, "I told him my job isn't to be his friend, it's to help make him the best pro possible."
Whatever you don't attribute to Carmelo as it relates to Denver's improvement should be attributed to Bzdelik, a longtime coach and scout who has been valued by every other employer he's had, from Wes Unseld to Pat Riley. The league's general managers some years ago thought Bzdelik was the best advance scout in the NBA. He's done great work everywhere he's been, from Northwestern University to University of Maryland-Baltimore County to the Bullets to the Knicks.
But the word is out there: If the Nuggets don't make it into the playoffs -- and they lead Utah by only one game for the final playoff spot with 17 games left -- Bzdelik will probably lose his job. If this is true, it's insane and would be the most irresponsible coaching move in a season of bizarre changes. Bzdelik was the loyal soldier last year when management clearly didn't want to win, when he was given a back court of Vincent Yarborough, who this year is playing in Italy, and Junior Harrington, who is now playing in Ukraine. Winning 30 games would have been reason enough to keep him as coach; if the Nuggets win 43 or 44, which is within reach despite playing with no veteran star in the carnivorous West, the improvement would be 26 or 27 games.
The last thing the Nuggets need at this critical point is change. What they need is what they've got, a coach who is smart enough to hand the leadership role to his 20-year-old star and the savvy to challenge the kid to become the great player he is already becoming.
© 2004 The Washington Post Company
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
He plays both Power Forward and Small Forward, and hes better than your college sweetheart Carmelo Anthony.
He is a Power Forward - you even said it back in February jacka$$...you got caught out - just admit your mistakes you fool!
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:09 PM
So thats why hes not passing the ball to anyone and doesnt rebound, thats why the lost all those games in Febuary and March... I guess thats a good strategy for a coach to give out, yeaaaaah.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
He is a Power Forward - you even said it back in February jacka$$...you got caught out - just admit your mistakes you fool!
He plays both you stupid !!!!.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Kevin Garnett and Andre Kirilenko both have played Small Forward this year.
Okay, Shawn Marion vs. Carmelo Anthony...
Marion: .440 FG%, .852 FT%, 85 3PTM, 1455 PTS, 718 REB, 206 AST, 162 ST, 103 BLK, 150 TO
Anthony: .427 FG%, .777 FT%, 68 3PTM, 1713 PTS, 494 REB, 227 AST, 87 ST, 41 BLK, 246 TO
Read them... thats 6 stat wins to 3 stat wins for Shawn Marion... wow, I guess Carmelo really owned Marion didnt he you jackass.
Now... Rashard Lewis vs. Carmelo Anthony
Lewis: .437 FG%, .760 FT%, 145 3PTM, 1416 PTS, 517 REB, 174 AST, 98 ST, 54 BLK, 135 TO
Anthony: .427 FG%, .777 FT%, 68 3PTM, 1713 PTS, 494 REB, 227 AST, 87 ST, 41 BLK, 246 TO
Lets add up them stat wins now.
Lewis with 5 stat wins and Carmelo with 4 wins, close but no cigar.
Who is in the playoffs? Not Lewis! Not Marion!
Also, you have to take into account just how great of a scorer Anthony is as he is 12th in the NBA in scoring.
Okay, CBS Sportsline agres with you that Marion is better, see the SF rankings (Carmelo is number 5 BTW as I said)
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/playerrankings/regularseason/SF
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
So thats why hes not passing the ball to anyone and doesnt rebound, thats why the lost all those games in Febuary and March... I guess thats a good strategy for a coach to give out, yeaaaaah.
Did they make the playoffs? Yeah, sounds pretty good to me (Did you even read the article?)
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
He plays both you stupid !!!!.
In your own words from February idiot!
Originally posted by Slipknot
Kirilenko will represent the Utah Jazz and you have no right to say he didnt deserve the spot and BTW if you look to see at the positians they both play then you would see that Carmelo plays Small Forward and Kirilenk plays Power Forward ( A much harder position to play) and the lack of great power forwards in the West might have been a factor in it as well so please enough of you repeated posts.
Stop it, because you said it yourself.....
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Who is in the playoffs? Not Lewis! Not Marion!
Also, you have to take into account just how great of a scorer Anthony is as he is 12th in the NBA in scoring.
Okay, CBS Sportsline agres with you that Marion is better, see the SF rankings (Carmelo is number 5 BTW as I said)
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/playerrankings/regularseason/SF
Who cares if there in the playoffs or not? The Nuggets are 8th? Thats nothing to go parading around about other than that they sucked for so many years and now barely made it, Lewis and Marion have teams that were alright but didnt have the other good players like Denver has. Anthony might be a great scorer but he doesnt pass much and doesnt rebound for !!!!.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
(Did you even read the article?)
No, I read a little, it looks old... I dont read every article online, I do have a life but I do try to read a couple articles every day, I cant read that one now since I am doing an essay... I will read it later if I have time.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Who cares if there in the playoffs or not?
If you have to ask that question, you clearly don't understand sports.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
No, I read a little, it looks old... I dont read every article online, I do have a life but I do try to read a couple articles every day, I cant read that one now since I am doing an essay... I will read it later if I have time.
Yes, the artcile is old because it points to the specific date when Anthony was asked by the coach to take over the team, because I was proving the point that he WAS ASKED to take over the team when you doubted me.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Again you are a moron!
Lol, we werent even talking about the teams, its about the players and you keep bringing up the playoffs and teams, Denver made the 8th and final place... wouldnt you rather them have a lotery pick than have them go out in the first round?
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Lol, we werent even talking about the teams, its about the players and you keep bringing up the playoffs and teams, I really coudl careless if Denver made the 8th and final place... wouldnt you rather them have a lotery pick than have them go out in the first round?
You have to take into account TEAM PERFORMANCE when you judge players....
Let me help you with an example that you can relate to...Tom Brady. Tom Brady is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL - period! However, if you merely looked at his stats compared to the rest of the QBs in the NFL, he wouldn't be among the lead leaders at QB. So, is Brady not one the best QBs in the NFL? Of course not. You judge Brady not soley by his "stats" but what he means to his team and how New England wins. Get it yet?
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
You have to take into account TEAM PERFORMANCE when you judge players....
Let me help you with an example that you can relate to...Tom Brady. Tom Brady is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL - period! However, if you merely looked at his stats compared to the rest of the QBs in the NFL, he wouldn't be among the lead leaders at QB. So, is Brady not one the best QBs in the NFL? Of course not. You judge Brady not soley by his "stats" but what he means to his team and how New England wins. Get it yet?
Yes, but this isnt the case with Carmelo, you dont need to bring up that his team is in 8th because he isnt a player that is like say... Ron Artest or someone like that where people cannot look at only his stats because of what he does on the court playing primarily defense.
But for the most part your right about that with Brady.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Yes, but this isnt the case with Carmelo, you dont need to bring up that his team is in 8th because he isnt a player that is like say... Ron Artest or someone like that where people cannot looka t only his stats because of what he does on the court playing primarily defense.
Yes, you do have to look at how the team does as Anthony was asked to be the man in Denver and bring them to the playoffs and he did - period!
Anthony hit so many big shots for Denevr down the stretch of the season it isn't even funny.
Please Slipknot, I know you and I have beef because of the BoSox / Yankee thing, but you are getting ridiculous now.
Carmelo Anthony (12th in the NBA in scoring) is ONE OF THE BEST SF in THE NBA whether you like it or not.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Carmelo Anthony (12th in the NBA in scoring) is ONE OF THE BEST SF in THE NBA whether you like it or not.
Originally posted by Slipknot
Carmello is a top one but theres still a lot of Small Forwards ahead of him.
Yes, hes about 6th place under SF like your CBS Sportsline said... I have said this all along.
reggiebar
04-13-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Yes, hes about 6th place under SF like your CBS Sportsline said... I have said this all along.
No, he is 5th according to CBS...I still say he is top 3...BTW, when I say "Okay, I think that now it is undeniable that Carmelo Anthony is one of the NBA's best small forwards - period!" How is Top-5 not one of the NBA's best?
Why did you feel the need to throw Power Forwards in some list in an attemtp to discredit my post when it is clear that Carmelo Anthony is one of the 5 best SFs in the NBA (that is from total game on the CBS list)...he is actually the second best scoring SF behind Peja, so when it comes to offense, he is one of the top 2.
BTW, still no comment on how you got caught by your own comments from February about Kirilenko as a PF?
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
No, he is 5th according to CBS...I still say he is top 3...BTW, when I say "Okay, I think that now it is undeniable that Carmelo Anthony is one of the NBA's best small forwards - period!" How is Top-5 not one of the NBA's best?
Why did you feel the need to throw Power Forwards in some list in an attemtp to discredit my post when it is clear that Carmelo Anthony is one of the 5 best SFs in the NBA (that is from total game on the CBS list)...he is actually the second best scoring SF behind Peja, so when it comes to offense, he is one of the top 2.
BTW, still no comment on how you got caught by your own comments from February about Kirilenko as a PF? You fool, He is 6th to me because he is behind Lewis too, but since your in love with him you think hes the best pretty much. I didnt throw and "power Forwards" into the list to discredit you... I threw in Kirilenko because he also plays Small Forward and I threw in Kevin Garnett who ALSO plays Small Forward. Even without those two players Carmelo is still 6th place and 5th to CBS Sportsline.Scoring means nothign when you dont play any defense and dont rebound and also dont pass the ball. And I did adress you about my comment in Febuary... Kirilenko cannot be classified as ony one type of player when he plays both SF anf PF.
Illchill
04-13-2004, 09:12 PM
Wow, the B's tied it up at 3-3 with 22 seconds left on a BARELY in goal by Knuble.OT now with 10:30 left.Lets go B's.
Slipknot
04-13-2004, 10:00 PM
BRUINS WIN!
Illchill
04-13-2004, 10:02 PM
Yes, that they did:D
reggiebar
04-14-2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Slipknot
You fool, He is 6th to me because he is behind Lewis too, but since your in love with him you think hes the best pretty much. I didnt throw and "power Forwards" into the list to discredit you... I threw in Kirilenko because he also plays Small Forward and I threw in Kevin Garnett who ALSO plays Small Forward. Even without those two players Carmelo is still 6th place and 5th to CBS Sportsline.Scoring means nothign when you dont play any defense and dont rebound and also dont pass the ball. And I did adress you about my comment in Febuary... Kirilenko cannot be classified as ony one type of player when he plays both SF anf PF.
Keep trying toolbox....maybe when you grow up and move out of your parents house someday and are allowed to stay up late and watch West Coast Games you might get a handle on the NBA and understand just what Carmelo accomplishes in the West...
reggiebar
04-14-2004, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Slipknot
and hes better than your college sweetheart Carmelo Anthony.
I have to admit that this line has had me chuckling since yesterday...very witty...
Slipknot
04-14-2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
Keep trying toolbox....maybe when you grow up and move out of your parents house someday and are allowed to stay up late and watch West Coast Games you might get a handle on the NBA and understand just what Carmelo accomplishes in the West...
Lol, this coming from a 32 almost 33 year old on a comic book message board... I find that quite humerous. Im 17, I dont know anyone my age that is not living with there parents. I can stay up pretty much as late as I want I very much doubt you even used to watch sports back when you were my age, I know 100 times as much as you did when you were 17 and I pretty much know more or about the same as you to this date... so just think hoiw much I will know when I am your age, hahaha damn fool.
reggiebar
04-14-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
Lol, this coming from a 32 almost 33 year old on a comic book message board... I find that quite humerous. Im 17, I dont know anyone my age that is not living with there parents. I can stay up pretty much as late as I want I very much doubt you even used to watch sports back when you were my age, I know 100 times as much as you did when you were 17 and I pretty much know more or about the same as you to this date... so just think hoiw much I will know when I am your age, hahaha damn fool.
No you don't know squat at 17.....If I didn't know anything about sports at a young age I would not have gotten into the Newhouse School of Public Communications at Syracuse (the best broadcast journalism school in the country BTW) nor would I have been able to interm at Madison Square Garden Television in college (by acing the MSG sports exam and beating out over 300 other applicants for the interm position).
You really don't fully comprehend professional sports like you believe you do....
reggiebar
04-14-2004, 01:52 PM
For the record, I am 31 going on 32, but I guess you understand Math the same way you understand Sports, huh :rolleyes:
Slipknot
04-14-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
No you don't know squat at 17.....If I didn't know anything about sports at a young age I would not have gotten into the Newhouse School of Public Communications at Syracuse (the best broadcast journalism school in the country BTW) nor would I have been able to interm at Madison Square Garden Television in college (by acing the MSG sports exam and beating out over 300 other applicants for the interm position).
You really don't fully comprehend professional sports like you believe you do....
Lol, I smell bull!!!!... you dont know anything about hockey so how do you know so much about sports when theres certain ones that you know squat about? Lol, oh man your so sad.
Slipknot
04-14-2004, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by reggiebar
If I didn't know anything about sports at a young age I would not have gotten into the Newhouse School of Public Communications at Syracuse (the best broadcast journalism school in the country BTW)
What are you doing at ESPN then? If its so great and you actually went there then where is your fame in broadcast journalism? Lol.
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