Official Wonder Woman Casting Suggestions [merged-13]

[ImperfectIcon]

lol she is like 5'3" not 5"6'
5 ft 6 wouldnt be bad for the role.

Anything below the 5'8"-5'9" level is short for the role of Wonder Woman. You might as well cast Smurfette LOL!

[Alpha and Omega]

I know these people aren't mentioned at all probably, but I could see a brunette Jessica Biel doing this film.

Then again, I really don't care that much about WW as a character, so maybe that's why I'm so liberal about my suggestions. Ok, I'll make a better one:

Sarah Lancaster.


http://online.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/sarah-lancaster1.jpg Sorry, only pic I could find of her as a brunette.

Charisma Carpenter would've perfect for this role. . . . . 8-10 yrs ago.

[Frodo]

I'll throw another name into the hat . Alana De La Garza who can be seen on Law and Order . She plays the new A DA. Some one even did a manip of her as WW. Here's a link to the manip

http://img278.echo.cx/img278/9117/wonderwoman2rw.jpg

To me she exudes strength, yet vunerability

[Dark Knight]

Yes, you're right about Bilson; she's utterly wrong for this role. Of course, the same can be said of all the other frail, elfin, and unathletic types being talked about.

Alba most definitely not—and she wouldn't be in the running anyway. Biel, however, I could picture pulling it off, and I wouldn't be too terribly disappointed if they went with her (not my first pick though). At least she has the athletic physique that would make her persuasive as a formidable character.

http://g.jubii.dk/big/Jessica-Biel/90917.jpg



I can definately see Biel pulling the role of WW just fine! She has the physique and she is a solid actress. Potential to be great. She also has action and fight sequence experience. Plus if she was cast....especially if Whedon and Silver want WW to be in her mid 20's...so the actress will be allowed to grow into the role for sequels.....then I thinlk Biel is the best choice overall. Plus she is VERY marketable. Her being cast would bring in added and probably needed buzz to the film. She will put butts in seats....I'll tell ya that for sure! Men and boys will be excited to see her in the role and she is a good role model type for girls and women alike. I don't want WW to go through what happened to Superman Returns when it comes to casting a complete unknown with NO major acting experience.

[Majik1387]

I'd rather have O'Keefe over Biel but I can see Biel getting it over her due to her star marketability.

[Dark Knight]

I'd rather have O'Keefe over Biel but I can see Biel getting it over her due to her star marketability.


I think getting a complete unknown to play WW would be a mistake by the producers, director and studio. Biel has it all to be a solid WW quite honestly.

Plus she is marketable....which is a huge key when it comes to this WW film being succesful on all levels IMO. She has been improving as an actress as well. She showed some range in The Illusionist.

[JBElliott]

I'll throw another name into the hat . Alana De La Garza who can be seen on Law and Order . She plays the new A DA. Some one even did a manip of her as WW. Here's a link to the manip

http://img278.echo.cx/img278/9117/wonderwoman2rw.jpg

To me she exudes strength, yet vunerability

I was thinking the same thing when I watched Law and Order, but I thought it was the new detective who would be a good WW.

Are you mixing up the two new women on the show?

[Majik1387]

I think getting a complete unknown to play WW would be a mistake by the producers, director and studio. Biel has it all to be a solid WW quite honestly.
Jodi Lynn O'Keefe is not a "complete unknown" in any way. I agree she is lesser known, I'd say if Kathy Griffin is on the D-List, Jodi is at least on the C-List. Biel is more of a B-List actress to me. The only thing that I don't believe Biel has over O'Keefe is talent.

[Dark Knight]

hmm..

jessica biel- no, shes pretty but looks nothing like ww face wise, and have u seen her act? or heard her voice? she has a deep voice. and whenever she tries to act tough she comes across as either sulky or butch. i don't think she should be considered. might as well get lindsey lohan, at least she looks more like ww...

maria c g- she doesn't look like ww either. and can she act w/o an accent?

taylor cole- ummm, not really sure on this one, shes pretty, could maybe pass as ww, but is she good at acting? & will she be able to beef up for the role? & also her eyes are really green, and thanks to SR, we all know how good colored contacts look on screen.

jennifer hawkins- i think shes soooo beautiful, & i guess she'd look like ww w/ black hair, but black hair doesn't always look good on blondes, so i'm not sure if that'd work. but if it did, u have the problem of can she act & can she learn how to speak w/o an australian accent! besides, shes really busy working as a spokesperson & model for lots of companies in australia.

evangeline lilly- pretty, good actress, but a bit too slight, & even tho she has the right coloring, doesn't look much like ww to me. plus u have the problem of getting her off that island...


I don't think Jessica Biel is that bad of an actress actually.....compared who.....Jennifer Hawkins?...Taylor Cole?? Lilly....maybe.....but how again is Lilly a better actress than Biel? How is that Biel looks nothing like WW? You mean she doesn't look like YOUR ideal WW right? Come on....

Biel has the look and physique without a doubt and she is sexy. She has solid experience in action and fight scenes as well. Plus she can grow into the role for sequels. Another plus for Biel is she IS marketable....which IMO will be a huge thing that will be needed for this film for it to be successful financially. For it to be critically successful....that is going to be Whedons job as writer and director and Silvers job as producer. They also will need to be solid supporting actors as well.

[Dark Knight]

Jodi Lynn O'Keefe is not a "complete unknown" in any way. I agree she is lesser known, I'd say if Kathy Griffin is on the D-List, Jodi is at least on the C-List. Biel is more of a B-List actress to me. The only thing that I don't believe Biel has over O'Keefe is talent.


Well....Bale was considered a B list actor as well....at one point and now he is rising star. I think Biel would be the overall best choice at this time actually.

[Fused]

There are others I would prefer in the role, but the marketability agument definitely holds water. I believe it would be a smart move if Whedon were to go against his unknown stance. Biel would fill seats and raise the chances for sequels better than my first picks or 90% of this threads suggestions.

[Dark Knight]

This is all true.


Nah...I don't think its is....

[Dark Knight]

There are others I would prefer in the role, but the marketability agument definitely holds water. I believe it would be a smart move if Whedon were to go against his unknown stance. Biel would fill seats and raise the chances for sequels better than my first picks or 90% of this threads suggestions.


Exactly! Silver will be the one to have to decide to go with more a known actress. Plus Biel is not by any means a major star....she has been in the small roles here and there and she was voted Esquires most sexiest woman earlier in the year and she is NOT a bad actress. She is also NOT one of those overexposed annoying tablois types of actress'. Biel WILL put butts in seats though people.

[WonderWitch]

I don't think Jessica Biel is that bad of an actress actually.....compared who.....Jennifer Hawkins?...Taylor Cole?? Lilly....maybe.....but how again is Lilly a better actress than Biel? How is that Biel looks nothing like WW? You mean she doesn't look like YOUR ideal WW right? Come on....

Biel has the look and physique without a doubt and she is sexy. She has solid experience in action and fight scenes as well. Plus she can grow into the role for sequels. Another plus for Biel is she IS marketable....which IMO will be a huge thing that will be needed for this film for it to be successful financially. For it to be critically successful....that is going to be Whedons job as writer and director and Silvers job as producer. They also will need to be solid supporting actors as well.

i didn't mean for it to come off that i think jessica is a bad actress. shes not that bad, but she ain't that great either. and i can't compare her to cole or hawkins since i've never seen them act. but lilly is a better actress than biel b/c she can be emotional w/o reminding me of her teenage angst days on seventh heaven or acting all tough & butch. and biel's voice is DEEP! ww's voice should be commanding, but not deep!

biel does not have the look. she looks good al right, good physique, but how does she look similar? after alot of searching i came up with the only 2 pics in which she remotely looks like ww

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5xa83RhF.HgBZWGjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12hanpqj7/EXP=1159343932/**http%3a//img421.imageshack.us/img421/8007/jessica20biel66zr.jpg

and

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mmw3hhFyjsA9qqjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=132n9q7ft/EXP=1159344176/**http%3a//www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Jessica_Biel_Biography_3.jpg

if i only saw these pics i wouldn't complain much except about her eye color, but then again the majority of her pics look like this:

http://www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6234104.jpg

and this

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mgY4BhF6U8Ah_ujzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1329ghh71/EXP=1159344536/**http%3a//www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6202643.jpg

those pics arn't very ww-like at all, not to mention that pic of her in the blue bikini top....

yes shes sexy, yes she can do action scenes, but so can many other candidates. an unknown could also grow into the role. she may be marketable, but we'll have to see how well her new movie (the illusionist?)does before we can really talk about that. and i don't think that matters, really. i mean, NO ONE who i talked to who saw SR knew who brandon routh was before the movie, NO ONE. for all i knew wb could have found him under a rock in the middle of nowhere, i didn't know, i didn't care. all i knew is he was hot, i liked superman, and the movie looked good; so i went and saw it. now i know who he is and will definately see his other movies as well as the SR sequels. so i think u don't need a familiar face to carry the movie, especially since the character of ww is familiar to all. and like u said, for the film to be sucessful whedon& silver have to step it up in all the other areas, in addition to the role of ww, which is the most important.

[WonderWitch]

ok, i dunno why those pics wont post, which is to bad cuz they're nice pics... whats wrong:huh:

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/8007/jessica20biel66zr.jpg
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Jessica_Biel_Biography_3.jpg
http://www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6202643.jpg

[Fused]

NO ONE who i talked to who saw SR knew who brandon routh was before the movie, NO ONE. for all i knew wb could have found him under a rock in the middle of nowhere, i didn't know, i didn't care. all i knew is he was hot, i liked superman, and the movie looked good; so i went and saw it. now i know who he is and will definately see his other movies as well as the SR sequels. so i think u don't need a familiar face to carry the movie, especially since the character of ww is familiar to all. and like u said, for the film to be sucessful whedon& silver have to step it up in all the other areas, in addition to the role of ww, which is the most important.

I liked SR quite well. I enjoyed Routh very much as Clark/Supes. However I think that if they'd went with a studio choice of Jim Cazievel it would have made a much bigger splash at the Box Office. Subtleties in the casting choice can tip scales in a movies favor. Theres no magic formula. I think a Routh level unknown for Wonder Woman could be a mistake. I hope I'm wrong. I'd also say Lilly and Biel have a close enough level of star power, both of which I'd be happy to see honestly.

[dnno1]

Don't tell me. Another actress trying to exploit Wonder Woman to promote their up coming film. Biel should have picked a better film than "Home of the Brave" to pull that stunt. On a $12 million budget it's got a chance to make a little money, but it's definitely going to dissapoint a lot of movie goers. Nice try but no cigar from me. Jessical Biel does not have the face to be Wonder Woman.

[Steelsheen]

I don't think Jessica Biel is that bad of an actress actually.....compared who.....Jennifer Hawkins?...Taylor Cole?? Lilly....maybe.....but how again is Lilly a better actress than Biel? How is that Biel looks nothing like WW? You mean she doesn't look like YOUR ideal WW right? Come on....

Biel has the look and physique without a doubt and she is sexy. She has solid experience in action and fight scenes as well. Plus she can grow into the role for sequels. Another plus for Biel is she IS marketable....which IMO will be a huge thing that will be needed for this film for it to be successful financially. For it to be critically successful....that is going to be Whedons job as writer and director and Silvers job as producer. They also will need to be solid supporting actors as well.

sorry gotta disagree with you on this DK. Biel may have a hot bod and a competent actress but she just doesnt have the right face to be WW-- too plain jane if you know what i mean. whoever has to play WW has to have a body AND the face of a woman most people will classify as "ethereally" beautiful, like Linda Carter, or Catherine Zeta Jones, or Jenifer Conelly or Monica Bellucci-- these women are examples of the standard that we're talking about for WW. unfortunately (with the exception of Linda) none of them can play the role due to hollywood's standards of age. Biel may have the age factor on her side, but other than that and the hot bod she doesnt quite have that winning factor to play WW.

[terry78]

^That's the first time I've ever heard of an actress being dismissed for actually being a good actress. :o

[dnno1]

If they rejected Bilson for being too old at 24 (as well as being short), then Biel would be out as well.

[kevinpenni]

Megan Fox

[Dark Knight]

i didn't mean for it to come off that i think jessica is a bad actress. shes not that bad, but she ain't that great either. and i can't compare her to cole or hawkins since i've never seen them act. but lilly is a better actress than biel b/c she can be emotional w/o reminding me of her teenage angst days on seventh heaven or acting all tough & butch. and biel's voice is DEEP! ww's voice should be commanding, but not deep!

biel does not have the look. she looks good al right, good physique, but how does she look similar? after alot of searching i came up with the only 2 pics in which she remotely looks like ww

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5xa83RhF.HgBZWGjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12hanpqj7/EXP=1159343932/**http%3a//img421.imageshack.us/img421/8007/jessica20biel66zr.jpg

and

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mmw3hhFyjsA9qqjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=132n9q7ft/EXP=1159344176/**http%3a//www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Jessica_Biel_Biography_3.jpg

if i only saw these pics i wouldn't complain much except about her eye color, but then again the majority of her pics look like this:

http://www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6234104.jpg

and this

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mgY4BhF6U8Ah_ujzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1329ghh71/EXP=1159344536/**http%3a//www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6202643.jpg

those pics arn't very ww-like at all, not to mention that pic of her in the blue bikini top....

yes shes sexy, yes she can do action scenes, but so can many other candidates. an unknown could also grow into the role. she may be marketable, but we'll have to see how well her new movie (the illusionist?)does before we can really talk about that. and i don't think that matters, really. i mean, NO ONE who i talked to who saw SR knew who brandon routh was before the movie, NO ONE. for all i knew wb could have found him under a rock in the middle of nowhere, i didn't know, i didn't care. all i knew is he was hot, i liked superman, and the movie looked good; so i went and saw it. now i know who he is and will definately see his other movies as well as the SR sequels. so i think u don't need a familiar face to carry the movie, especially since the character of ww is familiar to all. and like u said, for the film to be sucessful whedon& silver have to step it up in all the other areas, in addition to the role of ww, which is the most important.


him being a complete unknown...well...all I have to say about Rouths performance was that it certainly was underwhelming...and it showed. : (

[Dark Knight]

You lucked out then. Since Silver confirmed that the Wonder Woman actress will be a young relative unknown, it seems the likely route.

Regardless of star power and box office, Brandon Routh was still a much better choice than James Caviezel in the long term. Caviezel couldnt have captured the essense of Christopher Reeve as well and looked as Superman-like in images like this:

http://www.brandonrouthweb.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_searching1.jpg

http://www.brandonrouthweb.com/gallery/albums/scans/normal_book4.jpg

Some of these roles tend to be quite larger than life that they do require unknowns. Wonder Woman and Superman are the best examples of when unknowns would be needed.


whatever...that argument is old and weak IMO. We saw what happened with the complete unknown with hardly ANY acting experience being cast as a larger than life hero with Routh. His performance was very wooden and underwhelming to say the least.....

[Dark Knight]

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/8007/jessica20biel66zr.jpg
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Jessica_Biel_Biography_3.jpg
http://www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6202643.jpg


Looks like an ideal WW candidate to me....young, in shape, marketable....and is a solid actress with fight and action sequences. What else do some of you crazy people want in WW?? Just because she is NOT an unknown...means she is not right for the role?? That is a dumb way of thinking....that was proven with Singer being too stubborn and arrogant with his casting of a wooden actor like Routh in SR. I don't want that to happen again. Sorry....

[Dark Knight]

Brandon was awesome. All the polls on SHH and other boards show an 80%-90% favor towards his acting amongst the fans who voted while the film takes in an good 76% critical rating on RT (Compared to POTC2's 52%) I can't take your judgement of 'wooden acting' seriously when your praising Jessica Biel's acting. Shes very mediocre.

What else do I want in Wonder Woman? An actress that visually appears like the Wonder Woman I'm familiar with. General audiences are mainly aware of Lynda Carter's WW and Biel looks and acts nothing like her. She can never portray the innocent side of the character that is rather dominant in the younger Wonder Woman which this film features.

Whedon and Silver deciding to go with an unknown was the best move. I'm glad they decided to go that route.

Marketability isnt as relevant in this case as the film's budget will likely be moderate and the general appeal and attraction of the film, regardless of who the lead is, wont be great either.

The main reason Batman Begins and Superman Returns didnt do too great is the lack of kid appeal. They were dark, serious films for mainly older fans (who saw them) but kids. mainly boys, were left out of the loop.

Wonder Woman is in a rather worse situation given little boys wont be lining up and jumping up and down over Wonder Woman and buying golden lassos, it just wont happen. Mattel likely wont market WW toys for boys also and it wont be anywhere close to as major of an effort compared to Batman and Superman.


I'll answer this soon....

[Dark Knight]

Brandon was awesome. All the polls on SHH and other boards show an 80%-90% favor towards his acting amongst the fans who voted while the film takes in an good 76% critical rating on RT (Compared to POTC2's 52%) I can't take your judgement of 'wooden acting' seriously when your praising Jessica Biel's acting. Shes very mediocre.

What else do I want in Wonder Woman? An actress that visually appears like the Wonder Woman I'm familiar with. General audiences are mainly aware of Lynda Carter's WW and Biel looks and acts nothing like her. She can never portray the innocent side of the character that is rather dominant in the younger Wonder Woman which this film features.

Whedon and Silver deciding to go with an unknown was the best move. I'm glad they decided to go that route.

Marketability isnt as relevant in this case as the film's budget will likely be moderate and the general appeal and attraction of the film, regardless of who the lead is, wont be great either.

The main reason Batman Begins and Superman Returns didnt do too great is the lack of kid appeal. They were dark, serious films for mainly older fans (who saw them) but kids. mainly boys, were left out of the loop.

Wonder Woman is in a rather worse situation given little boys wont be lining up and jumping up and down over Wonder Woman and buying golden lassos, it just wont happen. Mattel likely wont market WW toys for boys also and it wont be anywhere close to as major of an effort compared to Batman and Superman.


I'll answer this soon....

[WonderWitch]

Brandon was awesome. All the polls on SHH and other boards show an 80%-90% favor towards his acting amongst the fans who voted while the film takes in an good 76% critical rating on RT (Compared to POTC2's 52%) I can't take your judgement of 'wooden acting' seriously when your praising Jessica Biel's acting. Shes very mediocre.

What else do I want in Wonder Woman? An actress that visually appears like the Wonder Woman I'm familiar with. General audiences are mainly aware of Lynda Carter's WW and Biel looks and acts nothing like her. She can never portray the innocent side of the character that is rather dominant in the younger Wonder Woman which this film features.

Whedon and Silver deciding to go with an unknown was the best move. I'm glad they decided to go that route.

Marketability isnt as relevant in this case as the film's budget will likely be moderate and the general appeal and attraction of the film, regardless of who the lead is, wont be great either.

The main reason Batman Begins and Superman Returns didnt do too great is the lack of kid appeal. They were dark, serious films for mainly older fans (who saw them) but kids. mainly boys, were left out of the loop.

Wonder Woman is in a rather worse situation given little boys wont be lining up and jumping up and down over Wonder Woman and buying golden lassos, it just wont happen. Mattel likely wont market WW toys for boys also and it wont be anywhere close to as major of an effort compared to Batman and Superman.

totally agree w/ u on everything, except i think that while ww may not have many young boys go see the movie (although u should never underestimate the power of female attraction, no matter how young the victim), many young girls will, either b/c they are attracted to the idea of a strong & beautiful woman who gets to kick butt while wearing a tiara, or b/c their moms who grew up with ww will take them to see it. but seriosly, casting the right ww is KEY! it will make or break the movie, so please, no deep voiced jessica biel!

[WonderWitch]

Wonder Woman is in a rather worse situation given little boys wont be lining up and jumping up and down over Wonder Woman and buying golden lassos, it just wont happen. Mattel likely wont market WW toys for boys also and it wont be anywhere close to as major of an effort compared to Batman and Superman.

but i can bet my life stores are gonna be filled w/ wonder woman barbies and outfits tho :meow: ! and lets face it, girls spend way more time & money shopping than boys do! and probably a ww video game will also be made, which both boys & girls would buy (tomb raider anyone?)

[Dark Knight]

Brandon was awesome. All the polls on SHH and other boards show an 80%-90% favor towards his acting amongst the fans who voted while the film takes in an good 76% critical rating on RT (Compared to POTC2's 52%) I can't take your judgement of 'wooden acting' seriously when your praising Jessica Biel's acting. Shes very mediocre.




Whedon and Silver deciding to go with an unknown was the best move. I'm glad they decided to go that route.



Marketability isnt as relevant in this case as the film's budget will likely be moderate and the general appeal and attraction of the film, regardless of who the lead is, wont be great either.

The main reason Batman Begins and Superman Returns didnt do too great is the lack of kid appeal. They were dark, serious films for mainly older fans (who saw them) but kids. mainly boys, were left out of the loop.

Wonder Woman is in a rather worse situation given little boys wont be lining up and jumping up and down over Wonder Woman and buying golden lassos, it just wont happen. Mattel likely wont market WW toys for boys also and it wont be anywhere close to as major of an effort compared to Batman and Superman.



Brandon was awesome huh? WOW! And SHH polls should be taken literally and as gospel?? I think not.....

Brandons performance exposed his like of acting experience IMO....he showed little to no emotion as Supes....at least Reeve was acting. Did he even portray Clark Kent? Not really....He should have been far more goofy and clumsy at least.

What else do I want in Wonder Woman? An actress that visually appears like the Wonder Woman I'm familiar with. General audiences are mainly aware of Lynda Carter's WW and Biel looks and acts nothing like her. She can never portray the innocent side of the character that is rather dominant in the younger Wonder Woman which this film features.

I don't think this WW has to be a carbon copy of Lynda Carters TV show portrayel. I hope to god it's not.....Carter did not have a strong physique and her action and fight sequences were laughable. I want this WW to be tough and look in shape. Also....how do you know Biel "can never portray the innocent side" of the younger WW? Biel showed plenty of innocence in 7th Heaven.....showed her tough and action sides in Blade Trinty and Stealth.....she showed strong emotion in Texas Chainsaw Massacre and played a convincing bad girl in Rules of Attraction...and as of late she has shown considerable range in Elizabethtown and in The Illusionist (which is a good movie by the way) Wow....looks like a simliar resume to Bales if you ask me. Plus she is the right age.....24. So all you people who are caught up with the complete unknown with hardly any acting experience to be in lead roles in superhero films...need to get over it. So in the end ....your comapring apples to peaches when it comes to the acting experience and abilities of Biel and Routh.

When did Whedon and Silver decide on WW being an unknown actress....i haven't heard an official announcement. The 3rd or 4th draft has barely been turned in last I heard.

Please don't underestimate the importance of marketability either. This film will need to rely heavily on marketability whether you or fanboys like it or not. It's a solo female superhero story....those are hard sells. Elektra was a disappointment and I don't have to remind you of the ill conceived CINO do I?

Don't get caught up in the over confidence and arrogance that fans and the studio did with Superman Returns when it came to marketing. The attitide
of "its Superman and he's an icon...and his name will sell itself" would be a terrible mistake if the studio goes with that attitude again with WW.

You right about the lack of kid appeal from Begins...it wasn't a film meant for kids. Thank god! With SR....WB's screwed up the marketing big time IMO. The film also could have done well with 8 to 12 years olds if it had a bit more action and if it had a major villian like a Metallo for instance for Supes to fight. The 8 to 12 years olds need something like that in the superhero films to watch it again and again.

An actress like Biel would be able to make appearances at big shopping malls across the country to promote WW. I think kids and especially teens, girls and boys would love something like that. Like it or not....Biel is popular with the teens and early 20's crowd, a key demographic to attract for the film. Men like her as well. She isn't a tabloid type of annoying overexposed actress either.

All I'm saying is....is that I would NOT in no way shape or form complain or be dissapointed if Jessica Biel were cast to play Princess Diana/WW. She has all the right tools along with the right age and acting experience.

[Dark Knight]

[QUOTE=Lionel Luthor]Brandon was awesome. All the polls on SHH and other boards show an 80%-90% favor towards his acting amongst the fans who voted while the film takes in an good 76% critical rating on RT (Compared to POTC2's 52%)




^ By the way I like seeing that 76% to POC2 52%

I always thought Returns was a better film that POC2. I like comparing POC2 to Matrix Reloaded.....very dissapointing and waaaaaay over produced.

[Eddie Dean]

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[Fused]

She's perfect. My #1 choice.

[drewr15]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2973/resizeok2.jpg

Who dat?

[terry78]

What the studio is going to be doing as far as marketing is catering to older fans of the character, people who were fans of the show, and girls. Those are the main three bases they will have to cover to turn a profit. Guys will buy the video game when it's released a la Tomb Raider, and any action toys that come out, will be marketed to girls.

[Fused]

Who dat?

Monica Dean

[Majik1387]

I'm still for Jodi Lynn O'Keefe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/wonderwoman.jpg
I'd be able to accept Biel but I don't really want her for Wonder Woman.

[Dark Knight]

I'm still for Jodi Lynn O'Keefe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/wonderwoman.jpg
I'd be able to accept Biel but I don't really want her for Wonder Woman.


i like the manip, don't know about the actress.....but the suit looks ideal and i like mini battle skirt look head of the panties.

[Dark Knight]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2973/resizeok2.jpg


she is hot!

[Fused]

She can act too. Touch of accent that melts like butter.

[Dark Knight]

What the studio is going to be doing as far as marketing is catering to older fans of the character, people who were fans of the show, and girls. Those are the main three bases they will have to cover to turn a profit. Guys will buy the video game when it's released a la Tomb Raider, and any action toys that come out, will be marketed to girls.


I think they will try to market the film with all age groups. It will be a PG-13 film most likely....but it needs to have an epic feel, with of course some intense action and drama. It also needs to have fun scenes that will be kid friendly...for the 8 to 15 year olds. I think whoever they cast as WW along with Whedon ....will need to do mall appearances for autograph signings to attract that key 8-18 year old demographic. That type of thing would be a great and original marketing strategy that the I think will help the film big time!

[Majik1387]

i like the manip, don't know about the actress.....but the suit looks ideal and i like mini battle skirt look head of the panties.
Thanks, I hate how the gauntlets turned out though.

But here are some of Jodi Lynn O'Keefe's credits including TV series where she was a recurring and or starring character.

"The Evidence" - Officer Jackie Kazaris
Three Wise Guys - Mary Ann Davidson
"Boston Legal" - Nora Jacobs
Venice Underground - Tyler
Adopted - Rachel Rabinowitz
Out for Blood - Layla Simmons
Mummy an' the Armadillo - Jackie
Red Rover - Kylie Taylor
Falling in Love in Pongo Ponga - Shawnee
"Nash Bridges" - Cassidy Bridges
Devil in the Flesh 2 - Debbie Strong
Whatever It Takes - Ashley Grant
The Crow: Salvation - Lauren Randall
She's All That - Taylor Vaughan
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - Sarah Wainthrope
+ tv show(not talk show) appearances

[CFE]

My choice is Charisma Carpenter. She IS Wonder Woman for me.

She's famous enough to have appeal to mass audiences, but she's enough of an unknown to allow the project to stand on its own feet as 'Wonder Woman: The Movie.' rather than 'Wonder Woman: The Movie - Starring Charisma Carpenter.'

Plus, she works when put side by side with Christian and Brandon as the DC Trinity:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j206/sevenweblog4/Charisma_Carpenter7.jpg

http://smallvillianoss.webcindario.com/images/brandon-routh2.jpg

http://i.jubii.dk/rd/dynamic/gallery/Christian+Bale+som+Batman_85772.jpg

CFE

[Majik1387]

Personally I like Charisma but she hasn't really done anything where she can even make me think she could pull off the character of Wonder Woman.

[Eddie Dean]

Who dat?
Monica Dean.

[dpm07]

I'm going to go with one of the following as my personal options:

Taylor Cole
Morena Baccarin
Monica Dean
Jodi Lynn O'KeefeOf all mentioned, probably Taylor Cole is the best option, but I think Baccarin's friendship with Whedon could help her, and I would definitely not be disappointed with that either.

Possible dark horses who have the age factor going for them, and who's star is on the rise, and who have the height to pull it off are Michelle Trachtenberg and Alexis Bledel.

The trick is going to be writing a great story to complement the character, as so many female superheroine films have failed, and this might turn the public off to going to see yet another one, even though it is Wonder Woman.

The actress definitely needs to be 5'7 or taller. A lot can be done with camera angles, but from everything I've seen they can probably draw from a believable and good actress who's 5'7 or taller.

[dnno1]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2006/09/myworld_pm_0927_250.jpg
Shaina, Taryn Southern, and Rene from
"Project MyWorld (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geusp.VRxFBTkACcZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB2b2gzdDd tBGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZAM-/SIG=11po5kb1g/EXP=1159571198/**http%3a//www.myspace.com/projectmyworld)"

How about one of these girls? They are probably closer to the age range that they are looking for.

[Fused]

Welp theyve cast Iron Man and every other comic book movie is zooming along in production with the exception of our fair Diana. It's a travesty of justice.

[Dark Knight]

Personally I like Charisma but she hasn't really done anything where she can even make me think she could pull off the character of Wonder Woman.


I don't think Carpenter has any range as an actor. I don't want her as WW.

[Dark Knight]

I'm going to go with one of the following as my personal options:

Taylor Cole
Morena Baccarin
Monica Dean
Jodi Lynn O'KeefeOf all mentioned, probably Taylor Cole is the best option, but I think Baccarin's friendship with Whedon could help her, and I would definitely not be disappointed with that either.

Possible dark horses who have the age factor going for them, and who's star is on the rise, and who have the height to pull it off are Michelle Trachtenberg and Alexis Bledel.

The trick is going to be writing a great story to complement the character, as so many female superheroine films have failed, and this might turn the public off to going to see yet another one, even though it is Wonder Woman.

The actress definitely needs to be 5'7 or taller. A lot can be done with camera angles, but from everything I've seen they can probably draw from a believable and good actress who's 5'7 or taller.


if they go unknown....the Baccarin I can accept. I still think Biel would be a good choice overall. I think she 5'7 or also. She is not to short i think. When it comes to marketing...some worry that she is to big a name....buit i disagree. I'm sure when WB's starts marketing the film.....regardless of who is cast......it will not be so and so as WW.....they will just promote the movie and story.

[batlovescatDC]

[quote=Mr. J]

Personally, I think the role should go to an unknown. quote]

Oh... so we can have another Brandon Routh situation?

[dnno1]

I don't see what was wrong with that.

[feitan132000]

what about Summer Altice?

[JBElliott]

what about Summer Altice?

No.

[Majik1387]

Another manip of Jodi Lynn O'Keefe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/amazonww.jpg

[JBElliott]

Here's WW:

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8649/yoga4dudes20060425033607703000pk3.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9315/yoga4dudes20060425033608532tn1.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6458/yoga4dudes20060425033630640000ju4.jpg

She's got the face, the hair, the build, the boobs, the butt, the flexibility and athleticism and she's an unknown.

[JBElliott]

Another unknown for WW :oldrazz:

http://www.geocities.com/pocke****chgreg/trove/wwallisoncosplay.jpg

[7Hells]

She's got the face, the hair, the build, the boobs, the butt, the flexibility and athleticism and she's an unknown.
The most important thing in casting WW is acting ability. We have all seen, numerous times, what happens when a sub-par actor plays a superhero.
And no fake boobs please.

[BasinCityBlues]

Definately an unknown should play WW.

[LadyVader]

[quote=Mr. J]

Personally, I think the role should go to an unknown. quote]

Oh... so we can have another Brandon Routh situation?

Brandon Routh was fine! Physically he was perfect for the role, and he conveyed just the right amount of strenght and emotion. The problem was the script and the weak plot, not the actor.

[Dark Knight]

[quote=Mr. J]

Personally, I think the role should go to an unknown. quote]

Oh... so we can have another Brandon Routh situation?



Exactly....I don't want another Brandon Routh situation either....where Singer didn't give any actors with more ACTING experience a shot at the role. Singer was so short sighted and stubborn about him wanting an unknown actor with very little acting experience that you can definately tell in the final product.

[Dark Knight]

[QUOTE=batlovescatDC]

Brandon Routh was fine! Physically he was perfect for the role, and he conveyed just the right amount of strenght and emotion. The problem was the script and the weak plot, not the actor.


Maybe we were watching two different movies......I thought he was okay as Superman....it would have been better if he would have showed some more emotion in the last half of the movie. Then as Kent....he could have really shown his range but he wasn't even close to Reeves excellent portrayel as Kent. He should have been more clumsy and goofy as Kent. Basically Routh played the roles very conservative. I want the actress who ends up getting the role of WW to be more like Bales' casting as Batman than Rouths casting as Superman......thats for damn sure! Biel is more like Bale to me.

[Dark Knight]

The most important thing in casting WW is acting ability. We have all seen, numerous times, what happens when a sub-par actor plays a superhero.
And no fake boobs please.


Exactly!

Oh and I agree with the no fake boobs also.

[Dark Knight]

Another manip of Jodi Lynn O'Keefe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/amazonww.jpg



Nice but prefer the eagle chest plate instead. Hey can you make a manip of Biel as WW?

[Dark Knight]

^That's the first time I've ever heard of an actress being dismissed for actually being a good actress. :o


LOL.....weird huh?? Face is overrated IMO. Did Bale have the perfect face for Bruce Wayne?? Come on people....

[Dark Knight]

Yes, you're right about Bilson; she's utterly wrong for this role. Of course, the same can be said of all the other frail, elfin, and unathletic types being talked about.

Alba most definitely not—and she wouldn't be in the running anyway. Biel, however, I could picture pulling it off, and I wouldn't be too terribly disappointed if they went with her (not my first pick though). At least she has the athletic physique that would make her persuasive as a formidable character.

http://g.jubii.dk/big/Jessica-Biel/90917.jpg



I want WW to have a beautiful look AND have a tough as nails don't mess with me warrior look! Biel has both IMO. Can someone make a manip of this Biel pic into WW?

[Dark Knight]

Yes, you're right about Bilson; she's utterly wrong for this role. Of course, the same can be said of all the other frail, elfin, and unathletic types being talked about.

Alba most definitely not—and she wouldn't be in the running anyway. Biel, however, I could picture pulling it off, and I wouldn't be too terribly disappointed if they went with her (not my first pick though). At least she has the athletic physique that would make her persuasive as a formidable character.

http://g.jubii.dk/big/Jessica-Biel/90917.jpg



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[Dark Knight]

Yes, you're right about Bilson; she's utterly wrong for this role. Of course, the same can be said of all the other frail, elfin, and unathletic types being talked about.

Alba most definitely not—and she wouldn't be in the running anyway. Biel, however, I could picture pulling it off, and I wouldn't be too terribly disappointed if they went with her (not my first pick though). At least she has the athletic physique that would make her persuasive as a formidable character.

http://g.jubii.dk/big/Jessica-Biel/90917.jpg



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[Dark Knight]

Yes, you're right about Bilson; she's utterly wrong for this role. Of course, the same can be said of all the other frail, elfin, and unathletic types being talked about.

Alba most definitely not—and she wouldn't be in the running anyway. Biel, however, I could picture pulling it off, and I wouldn't be too terribly disappointed if they went with her (not my first pick though). At least she has the athletic physique that would make her persuasive as a formidable character.

http://g.jubii.dk/big/Jessica-Biel/90917.jpg



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[dpm07]

I could definitely see Jessica Biel being a trump card if they don't find a candidate and they have to go with a big name. If it were a single shot film, I'd say go with Angelina Jolie or Kate Beckinsale, but if they want a franchise, and a solid established star to build around, then Jessica Biel would make sense.

[ClarkLuther55]

I don't want Biel for Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman isn't just supposed to be good looking, she has to have CLASSIC beauty. Biel is hot and all, but her face is not quite right. Don't get me wrong, I think Biel looks great, but she just doesn't have that certain quality. She's the kind of woman who you would call "hot" or "sexy," but not "beautiful."

[Dark Knight]

I could definitely see Jessica Biel being a trump card if they don't find a candidate and they have to go with a big name. If it were a single shot film, I'd say go with Angelina Jolie or Kate Beckinsale, but if they want a franchise, and a solid established star to build around, then Jessica Biel would make sense.


WB can definately build on Biel. The thing that intrigues me most about her..is that she is not an overexposed superstar tabloid type or anything like that. She has a nice resume of films.....she has shown some range recently and she has the right age, athletic physique, looks, acting experience, fight sequence experience, and also the marketability that this film is going to need big time. It's all wrapped up in a nice package for her to be a solid WW candidate.....just like Bale was for Batman.

[dpm07]

WB can definately build on Biel. The thing that intrigues me most about her..is that she is not an overexposed superstar tabloid type or anything like that. She has a nice resume of films.....she has shown some range recently and she has the right age, athletic physique, looks, acting experience, fight sequence experience, and also the marketability that this film is going to need big time It's all wrapped up in a nice package for her to be a solid WW candidate.....just like Bale was for Batman.

You raise very good points. All of which I personally agree with.

[Dark Knight]

I don't want Biel for Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman isn't just supposed to be good looking, she has to have CLASSIC beauty. Biel is hot and all, but her face is not quite right. Don't get me wrong, I think Biel looks great, but she just doesn't have that certain quality. She's the kind of woman who you would call "hot" or "sexy," but not "beautiful."



Ooooookay......:huh:

[Dark Knight]

i didn't mean for it to come off that i think jessica is a bad actress. shes not that bad, but she ain't that great either. and i can't compare her to cole or hawkins since i've never seen them act. but lilly is a better actress than biel b/c she can be emotional w/o reminding me of her teenage angst days on seventh heaven or acting all tough & butch. and biel's voice is DEEP! ww's voice should be commanding, but not deep!

biel does not have the look. she looks good al right, good physique, but how does she look similar? after alot of searching i came up with the only 2 pics in which she remotely looks like ww

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5xa83RhF.HgBZWGjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12hanpqj7/EXP=1159343932/**http%3a//img421.imageshack.us/img421/8007/jessica20biel66zr.jpg

and

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mmw3hhFyjsA9qqjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=132n9q7ft/EXP=1159344176/**http%3a//www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Jessica_Biel_Biography_3.jpg

if i only saw these pics i wouldn't complain much except about her eye color, but then again the majority of her pics look like this:

http://www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6234104.jpg

and this

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mgY4BhF6U8Ah_ujzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN 0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1329ghh71/EXP=1159344536/**http%3a//www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6202643.jpg

those pics arn't very ww-like at all, not to mention that pic of her in the blue bikini top....

yes shes sexy, yes she can do action scenes, but so can many other candidates. an unknown could also grow into the role. she may be marketable, but we'll have to see how well her new movie (the illusionist?)does before we can really talk about that. and i don't think that matters, really. i mean, NO ONE who i talked to who saw SR knew who brandon routh was before the movie, NO ONE. for all i knew wb could have found him under a rock in the middle of nowhere, i didn't know, i didn't care. all i knew is he was hot, i liked superman, and the movie looked good; so i went and saw it. now i know who he is and will definately see his other movies as well as the SR sequels. so i think u don't need a familiar face to carry the movie, especially since the character of ww is familiar to all. and like u said, for the film to be sucessful whedon& silver have to step it up in all the other areas, in addition to the role of ww, which is the most important.


Perhaps your looking at the wrong pics?? :huh:

[Dark Knight]

http://img421.imageshack.us/img421/8007/jessica20biel66zr.jpg
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Jessica_Biel_Biography_3.jpg
http://www.poster.net/biel-jessica/biel-jessica-photo-jessica-biel-6202643.jpg



someone should use that pic in the middle for a WW manip...

[Fused]

I've met Baccarin in person. She looks like one of the frailest, least intimidating girls I've seen. I didnt see the resemblence at all.

That's the main reason I've always been anti-Morena. Theres no denying that shes a beauty. Sure she could work out. But she'd still look as intimidating as someones kid sister.

[Rac]

Aren't WWs boots high heeled? :cwink:
No high heeled boots. :down They ruined Elektra too.

[JBElliott]

The most important thing in casting WW is acting ability. We have all seen, numerous times, what happens when a sub-par actor plays a superhero.
And no fake boobs please.

Really? Then in that case, how about Meryl Streep, she's widely regarded as the the finest female actress of her time. If you want acting ablility, then I guess you want Streep as WW. Plus she doesn't have fake boobs.

[porotoparker]

Camilla Belle.

http://www.celebritywonder.com/picture/Camilla_Belle/CamillaBelle_Granitz_6800446.jpg


http://www.mymostwanted.com/gallery/data/2628/camilla-belle_dot_org-modeling3-01.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004741/

[dnno1]

Isnt Camilla related to Brandon Routh?

Maybe they should blonde-ify her and make her supergirl?

I think someone suggested her name before a few months ago. If she wasn't involved in the film "10,000 years BC" which is filming right now I would say that she was deffinitely a candidate, but since it is I can't say that she would be available.

[ShadowBoxing]

Biel doesn't strike me as Wonder Woman at all. But she could do a great Starfire.

[Bullseye]

I really can't see Biel playing the role of a superhero.

I still wish Natalie Portman would be cast as Wonder Woman.

[Jyn]

She looks like a 12 year old.

I agree, way to frail 4 Wonder Woman

[Steelsheen]

Isnt Camilla related to Brandon Routh?

she is?

[Steelsheen]

I agree, way to frail 4 Wonder Woman

he was probably referring to the face. i agree that if we're gonna go with brown eyed beauty, it has to be someone as beautiful as Natalie but with the body of Angelina Jolie.

[Donnie Darko]

Camilla Belle.

http://www.celebritywonder.com/picture/Camilla_Belle/CamillaBelle_Granitz_6800446.jpg


http://www.mymostwanted.com/gallery/data/2628/camilla-belle_dot_org-modeling3-01.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004741/

I thought we wanted a good actress for the role...?

[Philly Phanboy]

I thought we wanted a good actress for the role...?

Camilla wasn't bad in The Ballad of Jack and Rose, but that being said she still doesn't come across as being somebody that I would consider right for the part.

[Spider-Fan83]

Isnt Camilla related to Brandon Routh?

Maybe they should blonde-ify her and make her supergirl?
if they cast her, and if they ever use both Brandon and Camilla in a JLA movie, they would be no chance of a Super/Wonder love story lol
She was born under the name Routh and looks like him so I wonder... maybe, they can play the wonder twins together

[WonderWitch]

Camilla Belle is the face of vera wang's new "princess" fragrance

http://www.camilla-belle.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/CamillaVeraWang%209.PNG http://www.camilla-belle.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/CamillaVeraWang%205.PNG

pretty, but not ww, not the right look facially, brown eyes, and slight body.

those r cool pics tho. i want those outfits.

i remember her from her disney days, i knew there was something familiar about the vera wang's new fragrance model,:yay: . she wasn't real good at acting then, i havn't seen her in anything since, so i can't judge her now.

[WonderWitch]

*Yawn* This thread has been lacking some Taylor Cole pwnage recently.
(pic)
Beat that Jessica Biel.

she can't

[The ?uestion]

Taylor Cole for WW.

[Dark Knight]

she can't


Exactly....no way Cole is a better overall choice than Biel....think rationally people......sheesh

[Fused]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2973/resizeok2.jpg

Fine twist my arm. Monica Dean.

[Dark Knight]

Silver confirmed the actress would be an unknown this year. It was either at the SDCC or slightly before, he said "she would be very young and someone we (the public) havent seen before.."

That rules Biel out, though even if they wanted an established star, she'd be far from the first choice.

Regardless they seem to have made a choice to go with an unknown actress. I havent seen any other candidate that matches the physical beauty of Lynda Carter except Taylor Cole.

She may still be on WB's payroll for this season of Supernatual so at the very least, she may be able to secure an audition.



yeah...whatever.

[The Shredder]

The Silver unknown confirmation was true. It was posted here and on Bluetights:The Planet WW section some months ago.

Things can easily change.

Thats why it's called, filmmaking. Several factors can, and often do change in the process of making something. It's not something that is totally out of the question.

[WonderWitch]

i agree w/ lionel luther, but taylor cole isn't really a top choice, imo. either way those of u in love w/ jessica beil should probably give it up. i've noticed shes kinda elfish looking, not a bad thing, but not ww. does anyone else see this?

[terry78]

i agree w/ lionel luther, but taylor cole isn't really a top choice, imo. either way those of u in love w/ jessica beil should probably give it up. i've noticed shes kinda elfish looking, not a bad thing, but not ww. does anyone else see this?
You mean pointy ears and cheekbones? What guy wouldn't want that?:huh:

[WonderWitch]

You mean pointy ears and cheekbones? What guy wouldn't want that?:huh:

well, im not a guy so i wouldn't know, but as i said, looking elfish isn't a bad thing, i think its kinda cute & wouldn't mind the pointy ears myself, but i don't see ww as looking particularly elfish, i see her as a more "classic" "strong" beauty

[drewr15]

well, im not a guy so i wouldn't know, but as i said, looking elfish isn't a bad thing, i think its kinda cute & wouldn't mind the pointy ears myself, but i don't see ww as looking particularly elfish, i see her as a more "classic" "strong" beauty

I agree...someone like this :yay:

http://www.geocities.com/maria_grazia_4/0167.jpg

I know she's not the age they are looking for but Maria would have made a great Wonder Woman.

[Lobo]

I think Taylor has the best look visually.

Watch this clip;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtGRHrDbkdo

Ignore the gay music but just pay attention to her eyes and face, that's definately how I picture a young origins Diana.
Thanks for the clip :)

[Fused]

ya she is as beautiful and fitting as that clip is gay

[blksuperman2]

I think Taylor has the best look visually.

Watch this clip;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtGRHrDbkdo

Ignore the gay music but just pay attention to her eyes and face, that's definately how I picture a young origins Diana.

Damn. She looks like Diana to me.:woot: :wow:

[pifpaf]

I think Taylor has the best look visually.

Watch this clip;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtGRHrDbkdo

Ignore the gay music but just pay attention to her eyes and face, that's definately how I picture a young origins Diana.

your are right for your choice she suit for the role bravo!

[ZeroCorpse]

Face it. This movie is going to be Buffy the Wonder GIRL. She's going to be young, slender, and short. She'll use a lot of spinning kicks.

I've lost all hope that this will be at all true to the Wonder Woman legend.

[The Question]

Face it. This movie is going to be Buffy the Wonder GIRL. She's going to be young, slender, and short. She'll use a lot of spinning kicks.

I'm fairly certain that's not going to happen at all. :huh:

[The Shredder]

Face it. This movie is going to be Buffy the Wonder GIRL. She's going to be young, slender, and short. She'll use a lot of spinning kicks.

I've lost all hope that this will be at all true to the Wonder Woman legend.

Wait and see. Keep hope alive.

[Dark Knight]

I agree...someone like this :yay:

http://www.geocities.com/maria_grazia_4/0167.jpg

I know she's not the age they are looking for but Maria would have made a great Wonder Woman.



damn...trim that UNI-BROW.....lol

[drewr15]

Face it. This movie is going to be Buffy the Wonder GIRL. She's going to be young, slender, and short. She'll use a lot of spinning kicks.

I've lost all hope that this will be at all true to the Wonder Woman legend.

I'm holding out hope until I see it. Considering how disappointed I was in Supes it wouldn't surprise me but Batman was fantastic so I'm hopeful that they can get WW right.

[drewr15]

damn...trim that UNI-BROW.....lol

lol...I never even noticed it until you pointed it out.
Still think she'd be a kick butt Wonder woman. The uni brow makes her look even tougher. :cwink:

[Psionic Force]

Morena Baccarin!

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Morena%20Baccarin-5.jpg

That is who should portray Diana/WW!

[Majik1387]

^She's kind of ugly.

[The Shredder]

Please. :whatever:

[Psionic Force]

^She's kind of ugly.

no she isnt... she is beautiful!

[drewr15]

She's pretty in a different looking kind of way instead of what I'd call a classic strong beauty like I would picture for Wonder woman. Not ugly though.

[Majik1387]

Maybe it's just that pic. She just looks like a brunette Callista Flockhart to me there.

[pifpaf]

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2601/resizedd6.jpg


she really look alike wonder woman

[The Question]

She's pretty in a different looking kind of way instead of what I'd call a classic strong beauty like I would picture for Wonder woman. Not ugly though.


My main problem is that she lacks the proper muscle for it. And she always seemed rather short to me.

[The Shredder]

My main problem is that she lacks the proper muscle for it. And she always seemed rather short to me.

Muscle? She can train for something like that. Not really a problem there.

As far as height goes, films often can make a person seem much taller than they actually are in real life. As long as the actress isnt 5 foot even or something like that, I don't really have a problem with it.

Maybe it's just that pic. She just looks like a brunette Callista Flockhart to me there.

Callista Flockhart could only wish she was as attractive as Morena.

[Majik1387]

Callista Flockhart could only wish she was as attractive as Morena.
That pic is helping her wish come true.:yay:

[The Shredder]

That pic is helping her wish come true.:yay:

Yeah, if Morena was hit by a bus or something. :yay: Sure, Callista would be close.

[Majik1387]

^She looks like she was hit by a bus in that pic.:o:)

[The Shredder]

^She looks like she was hit by a bus in that pic.:o:)

I very much doubt Joss would agree. :yay:

[Majik1387]

^He would if he saw that pic.:)
http://www.morena-baccarin.com/pictures/modeling/modeling2.jpg
But this pic would most probably change his mind.

[The Shredder]

^ guess we'll agree to disagree, but thanks for posting that pic, Majik1387. As that pic is definately in my top 5 favourite pics of Morena. The previous one wouldnt be though. ;)

[Majik1387]

This thread needs another Jodi Lynn O'Keefe manip. Oh look, here's one I finished just a few minutes ago.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/wwposter.jpg

[Polomontana]

The lates news on Wonder Woman? Jessica Biel!! Was she wearing this Wonder Woman shirt as a hint?

Here's the link from Hollywood Tuna:

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=1907

She knew she would be photographed, she might have even called them for this one!!

[blksuperman2]

The lates news on Wonder Woman? Jessica Biel!! Was she wearing this Wonder Woman shirt as a hint?

Here's the link from Hollywood Tuna:

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=1907

She knew she would be photographed, she might have even called them for this one!!

I hope not.:down

[Majik1387]

The lates news on Wonder Woman? Jessica Biel!! Was she wearing this Wonder Woman shirt as a hint?

Here's the link from Hollywood Tuna:

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=1907

She knew she would be photographed, she might have even called them for this one!!

Sorry but that's the dumbest reasoning I've heard for casting.

"OMG, JESSICA BIEL IS WEARING A WONDER WOMAN SHIRT! SHE'S GONNA PLAY WONDER WOMAN!!"

Please, you know how many actors wear shirts with Batman, Green Lantern, Superman, Mickey Mouse, etc.? Does that mean they are gonna play those characters? No.

BTW, I'm not a hater on Biel for WW but come on, seriously.:whatever:

[batboy99]

^She's kind of ugly.i second that,she isnt really WW type

[Antonello Blueberry]

^She's kind of ugly.
I would like to see a picture of your girlfriend, just to have an idea of your tastes in women.

[Donnie Darko]

Sorry but that's the dumbest reasoning I've heard for casting.

"OMG, JESSICA BIEL IS WEARING A WONDER WOMAN SHIRT! SHE'S GONNA PLAY WONDER WOMAN!!"

Please, you know how many actors wear shirts with Batman, Green Lantern, Superman, Mickey Mouse, etc.? Does that mean they are gonna play those characters? No.

BTW, I'm not a hater on Biel for WW but come on, seriously.:whatever:

yeah, if every guy I have ever seen wearing a Punisher shirt was really up for the role, we'd be in REALLY big trouble

[The Question]

Shes the frailest littlest girl ever. Cute but not WW.

That's what excercise is for, m'boy. Alot of actors were shrimpy when they got the part but bulked up for it. Look at Toby McGuire.

[Dark Knight]

The lates news on Wonder Woman? Jessica Biel!! Was she wearing this Wonder Woman shirt as a hint?

Here's the link from Hollywood Tuna:

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=1907

She knew she would be photographed, she might have even called them for this one!!


As I have stated before....I would be just fine with her being cast as WW! She has all the tools to be great in the role. Just like Bale was for Batman. She has the....

Looks
Age-(Whedon and Silver want Diana/WW to be in her low to mid 20's so she can grow into the role for sequels)
Physique
Acting experience
No superstar baggage
Experience in fight and action sequences
Big upside when it comes to marketability.


Damn....I want her! LOL...:word:

[Dark Knight]

The lates news on Wonder Woman? Jessica Biel!! Was she wearing this Wonder Woman shirt as a hint?

Here's the link from Hollywood Tuna:

http://www.hollywoodtuna.com/?p=1907

She knew she would be photographed, she might have even called them for this one!!



She had a notebook with papers.....could be a draft of Whedons WW script? One never knows. Hmmm.....very intriguing find! :up:

[Dark Knight]

Sorry but that's the dumbest reasoning I've heard for casting.

"OMG, JESSICA BIEL IS WEARING A WONDER WOMAN SHIRT! SHE'S GONNA PLAY WONDER WOMAN!!"

Please, you know how many actors wear shirts with Batman, Green Lantern, Superman, Mickey Mouse, etc.? Does that mean they are gonna play those characters? No.

BTW, I'm not a hater on Biel for WW but come on, seriously.:whatever:



Ya never know.....

[The Shredder]

Well men are different that women. She had a Kate Bosworth-like figure in person.

I dont think it would be as easy to pack on the pounds.

Actor's change their bodies with some regularity. Actresses on the other hand, generally do such major body changes during and after childbirth; but there's no reason Morena couldn't get into the kind of WW shape Joss is looking for, for the film.

[The Question]

In person, she didnt look like she could to me. Shes just natually small.

Well, height you can fix with camera angles and the like. As for Diana's Amazonian physique, well, she'd just have to get in shape for the part. Would it be easy? No. But acting isn't easy.

Facially I didnt see it either. She seemed like a better fit for Zatanna.

Methinks you have something there.

[Arach Knight]

Liv Tyler FTW!

http://www.liv-tyler.znane.com/tyler4.jpg

http://images.portalcab.com/post/liv-tyler.jpg

She has a very natrual beauty. Not hollywood exaggerated...but not plain. Almost that girl next door look. I know Diana (much like Pandora) was blessed with different gifts from each greek god, etc etc. I know one of those blessings was for amazing beauty...but I think in a movie, a face too pretty, couldn't be taken as seriously as a face of natural grace. If they put some pretty girl behind it, it will just seem to reek of some sort of feminist ploy. But with a strong and graceful face, it will truly convey the heart of the character. If I were picking, based on extraordinary beauty though, it would be down to Kate Beckinsale or Charisma Carpenter. But for the aspect of beauty with grace...Liv Tyler all the way.

[FVD]

http://www.alanadelagarza.com/bground.jpg

Alana de la Garza recently from CSI Miami now joined Law & Order. On CSI Miami she played Eric's sister. She's got an amazing figure and a lovely face too. Despite her joining Law & Order recently is probably a sign that she won't land the role if it were offered to her.

[dpm07]

In person, she didnt look like she could to me. Shes just natually small.

Facially I didnt see it either. She seemed like a better fit for Zatanna.

Morena is 5'7 - 5'8 with heels she will be a fine height for Wonder Woman if she is chosen for the role. I've stated this before in the past. The same thing if Biel, or Taylor Cole are chosen. All three are of the approximate same height, and with the red boot heels they'll likely be wearing, they will be close to the 6' mark, and the camera angles can work with the rest.

Don't worry, any of these three will be fine. Their height will not be a factor, and in fact, may actually help them, as they are among the taller talented actresses out there.

[dpm07]

Liv Tyler FTW!

She has a very natrual beauty. Not hollywood exaggerated...but not plain. Almost that girl next door look. I know Diana (much like Pandora) was blessed with different gifts from each greek god, etc etc. I know one of those blessings was for amazing beauty...but I think in a movie, a face too pretty, couldn't be taken as seriously as a face of natural grace. If they put some pretty girl behind it, it will just seem to reek of some sort of feminist ploy. But with a strong and graceful face, it will truly convey the heart of the character. If I were picking, based on extraordinary beauty though, it would be down to Kate Beckinsale or Charisma Carpenter. But for the aspect of beauty with grace...Liv Tyler all the way.

Liv Tyler's better days are behind her. She doesn't look anywhere near as good as she did during LOTR or Armageddon. She's talented, but she's also porked out since having a kid, and really hasn't been able to erase that mommy weight.

[Dark Knight]

Morena is 5'7 - 5'8 with heels she will be a fine height for Wonder Woman if she is chosen for the role. I've stated this before in the past. The same thing if Biel, or Taylor Cole are chosen. All three are of the approximate same height, and with the red boot heels they'll likely be wearing, they will be close to the 6' mark, and the camera angles can work with the rest.

Don't worry, any of these three will be fine. Their height will not be a factor, and in fact, may actually help them, as they are among the taller talented actresses out there.


Would it be a good idea to have WW wear healed boots? I don't think it would be....she should wear boots but not with heels....she needs to look like a warrior. I think having her wear boots would not look right. Especially during fight and action sequences. Would a warrior princess battle in high heeled boots? I doubt it....

[pifpaf]

diana price is not a natural beauty she is a surnatural beauty she is a piece of asstonishing art she europeann beauty not a american one ,she greekwe need a italian , french or greek female, she's greek originaly

[Arach Knight]

Diana Prince has no ethnicity. She was molded from clay (just like Pandora, in greek mythology) and was blessed with gifts from the gods (just like pandora). Wonder Woman has a greek culture, but that is just like a black kid who lives in the suburbs and listens to rock. You could say he has white culture. Diana Prince can be portrayed by any well suited actress. And for the record, there's no such thing as "American Beauty" unless you are talking about the Kevin Spacey movie. All Americans decsend from Europe, Africa and Asia. The only true "Americans" are the native Americans. Otherwise, there is no set feature, or ethnic background, that defines American. As for Liv Tyler...she looked good to me in Jersey Girl...

[SLYspyder]

the people in charge of making dc movies are a bunch of cowards. since the success spider-man, they've been casting young people to take roles of heroes obviously in their early 30's. first they cast a kid as superman, now im hearing whedon wants a girl in her early 20's to play wonder WOMAN? the only reason they cast bale as batman is because a younger batman is not really believable, as batman had alot of experience before he became batman.

how do you guys feel about this?

[Arach Knight]

ummm...Christian Bale just turned 32 this year. That's pretty young. Considering Batman left to train when he was 12, and did so for 12 years (making him 24 when he started as Batman) that isn't a far cry from 32 really. Besides, who wants to see old people not fit for the role? And if you actually read up on this, Whedon is doing an origin story. That pretty much demands a young woman.

[dnno1]

Diana Prince has no ethnicity. She was molded from clay (just like Pandora, in greek mythology) and was blessed with gifts from the gods (just like pandora). Wonder Woman has a greek culture, but that is just like a black kid who lives in the suburbs and listens to rock. You could say he has white culture. Diana Prince can be portrayed by any well suited actress. And for the record, there's no such thing as "American Beauty" unless you are talking about the Kevin Spacey movie. All Americans decsend from Europe, Africa and Asia. The only true "Americans" are the native Americans. Otherwise, there is no set feature, or ethnic background, that defines American. As for Liv Tyler...she looked good to me in Jersey Girl...Well said.

[dnno1]

the people in charge of making dc movies are a bunch of cowards. since the success spider-man, they've been casting young people to take roles of heroes obviously in their early 30's. first they cast a kid as superman, now im hearing whedon wants a girl in her early 20's to play wonder WOMAN? the only reason they cast bale as batman is because a younger batman is not really believable, as batman had alot of experience before he became batman.

how do you guys feel about this?They can do what they want to do, and don't think that DC doesn't have any say so in parts of the movie. Going with the origin story partly justifies what they are doing anyway.

[The Shredder]

the people in charge of making dc movies are a bunch of cowards. since the success spider-man, they've been casting young people to take roles of heroes obviously in their early 30's. first they cast a kid as superman, now im hearing whedon wants a girl in her early 20's to play wonder WOMAN? the only reason they cast bale as batman is because a younger batman is not really believable, as batman had alot of experience before he became batman.

how do you guys feel about this?

Well I really loathe Hollywood's obsession with youth, but with Whedon's film being essentially a origin tale, there is justification there for someone in their 20's to be cast in the role. However, I would most definately prefer an actress around Bale's age to make a nice contemporary for his Batman, as opposed to a younger actress with very limited acting credits being cast. As I believe this role WON'T be particularly easy for any actress. But thats just my preference.

[Dark Knight]

ummm...Christian Bale just turned 32 this year. That's pretty young. Considering Batman left to train when he was 12, and did so for 12 years (making him 24 when he started as Batman) that isn't a far cry from 32 really. Besides, who wants to see old people not fit for the role? And if you actually read up on this, Whedon is doing an origin story. That pretty much demands a young woman.


Exactly!

[Dark Knight]

Well I really loathe Hollywood's obsession with youth, but with Whedon's film being essentially a origin tale, there is justification there for someone in their 20's to be cast in the role. However, I would most definately prefer an actress around Bale's age to make a nice contemporary for his Batman, as opposed to a younger actress with very limited acting credits being cast. As I believe this role WON'T be particularly easy for any actress. But thats just my preference.


i hear ya....I originally wanted Jenn Connelly to be WW....until I heard Whedon and Silver wanting to go mid 20's for an origin tale. Jessica Biel has all the goods to do well as WW.

[SLYspyder]

Well I really loathe Hollywood's obsession with youth, but with Whedon's film being essentially a origin tale, there is justification there for someone in their 20's to be cast in the role. However, I would most definately prefer an actress around Bale's age to make a nice contemporary for his Batman, as opposed to a younger actress with very limited acting credits being cast. As I believe this role WON'T be particularly easy for any actress. But thats just my preference.


when did wonder woman come to america and start doing her thing? i thought she was in her early 30's at that time.

[DrayvensCrow]

If you go by the TV show, she was thought to have been in her mid to late twenties(even though she gave her age as some thing like 2,526). So I guess by comic standards she's have stayed in that range for years.

BTW and Off-topic in a way, does anyone here remember a web site devoted entirely to voting for the best WW candidate when talk first started about a movie? They set it up like a tournament and had manips of each actress with the tiara. I think that would be the best way for everyone to vote on the best candidate.....

[Majik1387]

Jodi Lynn O'Keefe for Wonder Woman!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/wwstance.jpg

[SurfDUI]

diana price is not a natural beauty she is a surnatural beauty she is a piece of asstonishing art she europeann beauty not a american one ,she greekwe need a italian , french or greek female, she's greek originaly

Good

[batboy99]

Jodi Lynn O'Keefe for Wonder Woman!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Majik1387/wwstance.jpgyes!but i can see liv in the part shes got the looks

[batbat_29640]

Liv Tyler FTW!

http://www.liv-tyler.znane.com/tyler4.jpg

http://images.portalcab.com/post/liv-tyler.jpg

She has a very natrual beauty. Not hollywood exaggerated...but not plain. Almost that girl next door look. I know Diana (much like Pandora) was blessed with different gifts from each greek god, etc etc. I know one of those blessings was for amazing beauty...but I think in a movie, a face too pretty, couldn't be taken as seriously as a face of natural grace. If they put some pretty girl behind it, it will just seem to reek of some sort of feminist ploy. But with a strong and graceful face, it will truly convey the heart of the character. If I were picking, based on extraordinary beauty though, it would be down to Kate Beckinsale or Charisma Carpenter. But for the aspect of beauty with grace...Liv Tyler all the way. Ya know i can see that working well. She even looks like JL Diana in those pics. And too actually LOOK like WW is very important . . . Jessica Biel DOES NOT look like WW!

[Dark Knight]

Ya know i can see that working well. She even looks like JL Diana in those pics. And too actually LOOK like WW is very important . . . Jessica Biel DOES NOT look like WW!



Maybe Biel just doesn't look like YOUR WW?? :whatever:

[terry78]

Every actress with black hair is not Wonder Woman. Anyone can dye their hair.

Most actresses would jump at the chance to play her. Their career would skyrocket, they'd be playing a pop culture icon, and most importantly, considering how most people view WW as perfection personified physically, saying that you most favor WW would be a massive ego boost to any female.

[batbat_29640]

Maybe Biel just doesn't look like YOUR WW?? :whatever:If I had owner's rights to JL, DC Comics, and Lynda Carter's WW then I'd say you're right. Then there's that Amazonian thing . . . nope she doesn't look amazonian either.

[WonderWitch]

Every actress with black hair is not Wonder Woman. Anyone can dye their hair.

Most actresses would jump at the chance to play her. Their career would skyrocket, they'd be playing a pop culture icon, and most importantly, considering how most people view WW as perfection personified physically, saying that you most favor WW would be a massive ego boost to any female.

well said!

[WonderWitch]

If I had owner's rights to JL, DC Comics, and Lynda Carter's WW then I'd say you're right. Then there's that Amazonian thing . . . nope she doesn't look amazonian either.

lol

people, get over it, jessica biel looks nothing like ww. and even if she did she still couldn't play the role well. so start mentioning other actresses, please.

[SurfDUI]

Every actress with black hair is not Wonder Woman. Anyone can dye their hair.

Indeedy-Which make Liv Tyler out of the argument, she looks like a shoplifter.

I've always been of the Mind that Alicia Keys should play Diana. She's got the poise and queit reservation, and if the outfit is revamed to leather and dark colors she'd be great! Oh and she's fine as hell. NOW before the masses revolt, you've got to take a chance on this type of role. You all know I assume that Cathy Lee Crosby (if your under 30-don't worry has been city.) was the first WW in '73. The ideal WW will be like 6'5" so that's not very screen attractive (to me yes:woot: , the mass audience No)

[terry78]

http://images.askmen.com/imagesmusician/2001_sep/alicia_keys/alicia_keys_150.jpg
http://wallpapers.skins.be/alicia-keys/alicia-keys-1024x768-20894.jpg
http://www.aliciakeysfan.com/media/pregrammythumg.jpg
http://www.ovationtv.com/premieres/premimages/Alicia-Keys.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/43/86757964_980ae2a1bf_o.jpg

Alicia Keys? As much as people would hate it, she does have a look about her as far as chiseled exotic Amazon. Though I wouldn't mind giving her a shot as Cheetah if they ever use the character.

[tamron]

Alicia Keys? WTF, that's a horrible idea. She's not even an actress, and she's not 'chiseled', her weight has fluctuated during her career.

[SurfDUI]

I wouldn't mind giving her a shot as Cheetah if they ever use the character.

I see you workin'. The whole Rogues' gallery of W.W. would have to...well exist. Maybe if the Cheetah's were plural, like somekind of Isle of Dr. Merou(butcherd spelling) type deal, maybe.

Jet Li could play I-Ching

[SurfDUI]

Alicia Keys? WTF, that's a horrible idea. She's not even an actress, and she's not 'chiseled', her weight has fluctuated during her career.

You're probably right, I had a campaign going that I wanted Julia Roberts for the new Nosferatu-she's got the grin w/ those teeth.:cmad:
Scares the shirt out of me.

There will never be an Oscar nominated comic adaptation, so let's think out side the box here.

[Arach Knight]

when did wonder woman come to america and start doing her thing? i thought she was in her early 30's at that time.

Diana was far from her 30's. In fact she was about 21, in terms of her physical appearence. You never get told how old she is, but you know she is young. Let's put it this way. Diana Troy is her twin sister (even though she was created later, she still remains Diana's twin) and was a member of the Teen Titans. So that gives you the rough idea that Diana was maybe 23 to 25 when she first came to Boston (at least if you go by the George Perez retcon origin). This is how old she looks though. As an immortal Amazon of Themyscira, her actual age could be a little greater than that. At the time that Hippolyte receives/creates Diana, Themyscira is already 3,000 years old (this is 3,000 years after Hercules enslaved them). So we are talking 3,000 years after a period during BC times. Given that Diana was created at the end of those 3,000 years (which would still place Themyscira in the middle ages to perhaps post industrial revolution), Diana could easily have an actual age of a few hundred years. But her appearence, is that of 23-25.

[Arach Knight]

Oh yeah, before I forget...as for Alicia Keys....that's a no. I'm black and quite proud, but I get tired of Hollywood's arbitrary racial reassignments of comic characters. Terry was made white in Spawn, when he was originally black. Chapel got completly redone as not only a woman named Priest instead, but as a white woman. Then you get black Kingpin in Daredevil and Black Aliica in Fantastic Four. That doesn't fly with me. Leave people the race that they are. We all want to see minorities take a prominent and important role in pop culture, that extends well beyond the limited (and sometimes depressing) scope of hip hop, but arbitrarily altering race or ignoring it when casting characters, doesn't help much. I don't want a black guy playing Superman or a mexican playing Wonder Woman, more than I want to see an asian playing Black Panther or an indian playing Luke Cage. With that said however, Alicia Keys would make a great minor/secondary character. I could easily see her playing General Phillipus (If you don't know who that is, I suggest you actually read Wonder Woman).

[SurfDUI]

before I forget...as for Alicia Keys....that's a no. I'm black and quite proud, but I get tired of Hollywood's arbitrary racial reassignments

Actually in the Screen Actor's Guild bylaw # 1949Blop- It clearly states "Any live action movie involving Image's Spawn or Marvel Comics' Fantastic Four [Daredevil was amended later in the 50's] must have at least 1 racially reversed character rendering in a film." You don't mess w/ a Union.

Then you get black Kingpin Black Aliica in Fantastic Four. As a white woman That doesn't fly with me. :cmad:

Me EITHER lady, They should have given the job to that other 400lb actor, whas his name?? You know. He was in the one film call Nobody Else. The issues, as some of us can attest, w/ that movie are as high as Sweet Jenny's legs, but Mike Duncan is near the bottom.

We all want to see minorities take a prominent and important role in pop culture, but arbitrarily altering race or ignoring it when casting characters, doesn't help much.

In 20 years Marty McFly will be returning w/ Doc Brown to screw w/ the past...or future...again. Ambush the train, I'll be lookout:ninja: (as long as Biff Isn't there) and give that shpiel to Stan Lee in '65

I want to see an asian playing Black Panther or an indian playing Luke Cage.

You got both of them. Aruro has totally been done to death.

My suggestion is that find new "my favorite comic characters of all time are-Chapel and Alicia". Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Stilt Man. The lot of them are pretty much C-listers.

Hey, I read you, WHEN they make a live action movie about MY favorite Joe Kubert illustrated character the 'Ragman' - They totally can not make him Arabic-I don't care what the ethnic equivalence of a Golem is in Suni.

[Arach Knight]

I'm still deciding if I should just have a mod delete that entire post you made or not. But please, don't ruin a thread that seems to have gone successfully for some time now, with such foolishness.

[Crowforge]

hey jordan bayne does look like WW

[Dark Knight]

lol

people, get over it, jessica biel looks nothing like ww. and even if she did she still couldn't play the role well. so start mentioning other actresses, please.


No....:whatever:

[batbat_29640]

lol

people, get over it, jessica biel looks nothing like ww. and even if she did she still couldn't play the role well. so start mentioning other actresses, please. Thank you for getting my back on that one.

[Captain Wonder]

Rosario Dawson would be interesting ...

[Majik1387]

^Not for Wonder Woman.

[Dark Knight]

lol

people, get over it, jessica biel looks nothing like ww. and even if she did she still couldn't play the role well. so start mentioning other actresses, please.


Matter of fact....Biel is overall better than any actress you can come up with that fits the criteria of what Whedon and Silver will be looking for......and if your choice is an unknown with hardly any experience....then I use the word actress loosely. LOL!

[Majik1387]

Matter of fact....Biel is overall better than any actress you can come up with that fits the criteria of what Whedon and Silver will be looking for......and if your choice is an unknown with hardly any experience....then I use the word actress loosely. LOL!
I'm gonna have to call bull on that one. There have been actresses suggested that I wouldn't want for the role but I do believe are much better in the looks department and acting than Biel. I like Biel but she's a last resort to me.

[Arach Knight]

People just get upset at the mention of Jessica Biel for two reasons

1)They hate 7th Heaven (which is a shame..it's a good show)
2)They dislike her trendy status

After seeing the Illusionist (a severly under rated movie) I can say that Jessica Biel deserves far more credit, than the average person cares to give to her. She is far more than just her simple, yet elegant beauty.

[SurfDUI]

Hoo-Ray for Palendrone's(sp) CAN numbers be palendrone's?
5225

Personally, I ain't the biggest Wheadon fan. I can write 3 acts of scathing sarcasm and benign pop culture refrences too. And I'm basing this purley on 'Buffy' alone. Sure it got dark and that I really liked, but a number of the mystery machine-ers, just wern't interesting through the life of the series. And yes the well done doubled the porley executed. maybe i just hated whas his face, Chandler 2.0, the vengence demon's husband. Digressing
To his credit I LOVE rubber masks and 'The Gentleman' were a stroke of genius:o (sp)...[I just spilled my hangover beer darnit].

This is aside from the point he's at the helm, and will hopefully find a NEW face. It looks as though, If you believe in polls the the majority, don't want any of the seemingly forrunner to put the braceletts on.

My only real connection w/ Wonder Woman is celluloid from the '70's AND from the Silver Age period where they took away her powers. I almost have the entire issue run from #178-#206(I think...it's early) and Crisis and of course Perez so my knowledge is limited, but from a devoted comic fan in general.

[Dark Knight]

People just get upset at the mention of Jessica Biel for two reasons

1)They hate 7th Heaven (which is a shame..it's a good show)
2)They dislike her trendy status

After seeing the Illusionist (a severly under rated movie) I can say that Jessica Biel deserves far more credit, than the average person cares to give to her. She is far more than just her simple, yet elegant beauty.


What is Biels "trendy" status?


She is certainly not one of those overexposed actors or actress' that seem to be ruining Hollywood these days. Biel has a very good resume of filmwork.....take a look at her body of work at IMDB.

[Dark Knight]

I'm gonna have to call bull on that one. There have been actresses suggested that I wouldn't want for the role but I do believe are much better in the looks department and acting than Biel. I like Biel but she's a last resort to me.


Give me some names then...and we can compare and contrast. Biels' pros will most likely outway any of your choices pros'. Lets do it....

[Fused]

Wow. Alicia Keys. Thread was bout due for a wtf moment anyway. Alicias a hottie n all but ya I agree wholeheartedly with ArachKnight. Hell with it cast Alicia Keys as Wonder Woman, Alicia Silverstone as Storm.

[Matt312]

Petra Nemcova 5'10' supermodel

[ClarkLuther55]

I don't want Biel as a first choice for WW. I think there's several types of beauty:

"Beautiful" - A gorgeous woman, with perfect or near perfect features. Elegant and goddess-like. The kind of woman you want to marry or be in a relationship with (based only on appearance and the impression it gives you).

Examples: Catherine Zeta-Jones, Salma Hayek, Scarlett Johansson, Heidi Klum

"Sexy" or "Hot" - Looks good, but not perfect. She may have some noticeable flaws, or you may be able to easily think of somebody else who's easily better looking than her. However, she may have big breasts, a tight and well toned body, and/or a sexual attitude. She has things that make men horny. The kind of woman you want to "bang."

Examples: Lucy Liu, Pamela Anderson, WWE divas, pornstars

"Cute" - Good looks, but lacks the raw sexuality of these other types of beauties. Innocent appearance (even vulnerable, or somewhat young and childlike), doesn't act sexy, and may not have the biggest boobs or roundest ass.

Katie Holmes, Baby Spice

"Pretty" - Not perfect, innocent-looking, or exceptionally sexy or slutty. Basically just good-looking woman.


IMO, Wonder Woman is "beautiful," while Jessica Biel is "hot." I can definately think of a lot of actresses who are better looking than Biel, and she just doesn't have that elegant and perfect quality that I think WW should have.

[WonderWitch]

ya, i agree jessica is only "hot", not beautiful. u don't even have to be pretty to be hot. shes far from the classic goddesslike beauty wonder woman is supposed to posess.

this, along with her less than stellar acting is why i am bothered when people mention her.


Matter of fact....Biel is overall better than any actress you can come up with that fits the criteria of what Whedon and Silver will be looking for......and if your choice is an unknown with hardly any experience....then I use the word actress loosely. LOL!


well, jessica biel is an "established" actress (in some people's eyes), but that doesn't make her a good actress.

there are soooo many better choices than her, tho clearly still none have surfaced that are incredibly good choices for ww.

so, yes, i will use the word "actress" loosely if i find an unknown which fits the criteria to be ww. i'm looking for talent, not experience. besides, ww is a newcomer and needs to be innocent & slightly naive to begin with. it would be interesting if the actress grew along with her character.

[Arach Knight]

I don't see how Jessica Biel doesn't qualify for beautiful...nor why you put Lucy Lui out of ranking for being beautiful. I think they are both exemplary female figures. When you bear witness to their form, there is no longer a reason to doubt the existence of a divine creator, whom we all call God. For if their every supple curve was not crafted by the creators own hand...i'd have no other reason to explain it. Other women on my list for such a standard

Liv Tyler
Keiera Knightly
Halle Berry
Gabrielle Union
Eva Longoria
Shakira

The list goes on and on...but other note worthy mentions that I can't remember the names for

Dr.Cuddy (House M.D.)
Dr.Grey (Grey's Anatomy)
Bones (Bones)

[Dark Knight]

ya, i agree jessica is only "hot", not beautiful. u don't even have to be pretty to be hot. shes far from the classic goddesslike beauty wonder woman is supposed to posess.

this, along with her less than stellar acting is why i am bothered when people mention her.



well, jessica biel is an "established" actress (in some people's eyes), but that doesn't make her a good actress.

there are soooo many better choices than her, tho clearly still none have surfaced that are incredibly good choices for ww.

so, yes, i will use the word "actress" loosely if i find an unknown which fits the criteria to be ww. i'm looking for talent, not experience. besides, ww is a newcomer and needs to be innocent & slightly naive to begin with. it would be interesting if the actress grew along with her character.


You still haven't given me any names? LOL...:oldrazz:

[Paganus]

I don't want Biel as a first choice for WW. I think there's several types of beauty:

"Beautiful" - A gorgeous woman, with perfect or near perfect features. Elegant and goddess-like. The kind of woman you want to marry or be in a relationship with (based only on appearance and the impression it gives you).

Examples: Catherine Zeta-Jones, Salma Hayek, Scarlett Johansson, Heidi Klum

"Sexy" or "Hot" - Looks good, but not perfect. She may have some noticeable flaws, or you may be able to easily think of somebody else who's easily better looking than her. However, she may have big breasts, a tight and well toned body, and/or a sexual attitude. She has things that make men horny. The kind of woman you want to "bang."

Examples: Lucy Liu, Pamela Anderson, WWE divas, pornstars

"Cute" - Good looks, but lacks the raw sexuality of these other types of beauties. Innocent appearance (even vulnerable, or somewhat young and childlike), doesn't act sexy, and may not have the biggest boobs or roundest ass.

Katie Holmes, Baby Spice

"Pretty" - Not perfect, innocent-looking, or exceptionally sexy or slutty. Basically just good-looking woman.


IMO, Wonder Woman is "beautiful" while Jessica Biel is "hot." I can definately think of a lot of actresses who are better looking than Biel, and she just doesn't have that elegant and perfect quality that I think WW should have. It seems to me that all these women are "beautiful," and that "beauty" is a fairly subjective thing anyway. Which is why I have a problem with turning this into something strictly akin to a beauty contest. This is Hollywood after all, so I expect that whoever they pick will be plenty beautiful (not that some people won't gripe about her anyway).

Moreover, Wonder Woman also has the strength of Hercules, so what we're really talking about here is athletic beauty. This is, first and foremost, an action role, one based on a highly formidable character (pretty much Superman's equal). Thus it demands someone athletic, someone capable of projecting an imposing physical presence. Jessica Biel is at least capable in that department. So while she isn't my first choice for this (and may not even be in my top five), Biel is an acceptable choice to me, especially when compared to some of the other suggestions being put forth, many of which are frail, unathletic types. (I also do not buy all the histrionics about how "horrible" Biel's acting is. I've seen enough of her to call shenanigans on that.)

[Gotendbz-2]

When I was watching the Baseball game, I saw some commercials for that show Bones, and I think the woman in that show would be good
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Dr._Temperance_Brennan.jpg

[Paganus]

Give me some names then...and we can compare and contrast. Biels' pros will most likely outway any of your choices pros'. Lets do it.... Dark Knight, I'm going to have to go along with Majik1387 and part ways with you here. I've made it pretty clear now that I think Jessica Biel is an acceptable choice, and probably a better one than most that we've seen, but she isn't my first pick for this. There are, I think, better choices out there—like Jodi Lyn O'Keefe:

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/G60595_b.jpg
http://hicelebs.com/gallery/jodi_lynn_okeefe/5.jpg

I'll break it down for you too:

Height: Jodi is 5'10", Jessica at best is 5'8" (often listed at 5'71/2").
Build: Jodi is a big, strong girl, and an avid kickboxer; she'll have little trouble training up for something like this.
Iconic look: Jodi is a raven-haired, blue-eyed beauty with chiseled, but still soft, features, just like Diana.
Acting: Jodi is a very experienced, capable actress. Yet she is still a relative unknown, which seems to be what they want.

So to me anyway, it's pretty clear that Jodi Lyn O'Keefe, at least on paper, is a much better fit for this.

[Dark Knight]

Dark Knight, I'm going to have to go along with Majik1387 and part ways with you here. I've made it pretty clear now that I think Jessica Biel is an acceptable choice, and probably a better one than most that we've seen, but she isn't my first pick for this. There are, I think, better choices out there—like Jodi Lyn O'Keefe:

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/G60595_b.jpg
http://hicelebs.com/gallery/jodi_lynn_okeefe/5.jpg

I'll break it down for you too:

Height: Jodi is 5'10", Jessica at best is 5'8" (often listed at 5'71/2").
Build: Jodi is a big, strong girl, and an avid kickboxer; she'll have little trouble training up for something like this.
Iconic look: Jodi is a raven-haired, blue-eyed beauty with chiseled, but still soft, features, just like Diana.
Acting: Jodi is a very experienced, capable actress. Yet she is still a relative unknown, which seems to be what they want.

So to me anyway, it's pretty clear that Jodi Lyn O'Keefe, at least on paper, is a much better fit for this.


Much better fit?? How?

And who is this actress again? Whats her name.....never heard of her.

Is she marketable.....probably not....and her what is her acting experience? It's nothing compared to Biels resume.

Plus she looks the new version of Yasmine Bleeth.....not good. LOL

Biel all the way! :word:

[Dark Knight]

Dark Knight, I'm going to have to go along with Majik1387 and part ways with you here. I've made it pretty clear now that I think Jessica Biel is an acceptable choice, and probably a better one than most that we've seen, but she isn't my first pick for this. There are, I think, better choices out there—like Jodi Lyn O'Keefe:

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/G60595_b.jpg
http://hicelebs.com/gallery/jodi_lynn_okeefe/5.jpg

I'll break it down for you too:

Height: Jodi is 5'10", Jessica at best is 5'8" (often listed at 5'71/2").
Build: Jodi is a big, strong girl, and an avid kickboxer; she'll have little trouble training up for something like this.
Iconic look: Jodi is a raven-haired, blue-eyed beauty with chiseled, but still soft, features, just like Diana.
Acting: Jodi is a very experienced, capable actress. Yet she is still a relative unknown, which seems to be what they want.

So to me anyway, it's pretty clear that Jodi Lyn O'Keefe, at least on paper, is a much better fit for this.



Go to the latest news on Jessica Biel forum and check out some new photos posted there. She has the body of a warrior princess like WW...she has valuable acting experience......she is VERY marketable.

[Arach Knight]

Using unknown faces for these roles, is nothing new. Brandon Routh was an unknown, but physically, he was an apt choice, that turned out to be a rather capable actor. This Jodi woman does really look the part. She reminds me of Lynda Carter (the original Wonder Woman).

[Paganus]

Much better fit?? How? Why ask that question? I gave you specifics; refute them directly if you disagree.

And who is this actress again? Whats her name.....never heard of her. Think I gave her name at least twice earlier: Jodi Lyn O'Keefe.

Is she marketable.....probably not....and her what is her acting experience? It's nothing compared to Biels resume. Actually, she has a a fairly lengthy resumé, and more than enough experience to make her qualified for this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005281/filmoyear

It's very possible, indeed likely, that they want an unknown (or a relative unknown), so I'm not sure what you expect as far as "marketability" goes. Jodi would be marketable enough, just like Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, and Christian Bale were.

Plus she looks the new version of Yasmine Bleeth.....not good. LOL What she looks like is the iconic Wonder Woman, much more so than Jessica Biel does anyway. Sorry, but joking won't help you here; that's plain enough to see in the pics.

Biel all the way! :word: Again, an acceptable choice, yes; maybe even a great choice. But there are better, like Jodi Lyn O'Keefe.

[Paganus]

Using unknown faces for these roles, is nothing new. Brandon Routh was an unknown, but physically, he was an apt choice, that turned out to be a rather capable actor. This Jodi woman does really look the part. She reminds me of Lynda Carter (the original Wonder Woman). Well said!

[Dark Knight]

Using unknown faces for these roles, is nothing new. Brandon Routh was an unknown, but physically, he was an apt choice, that turned out to be a rather capable actor. This Jodi woman does really look the part. She reminds me of Lynda Carter (the original Wonder Woman).



I think some of you need to get over the unknown for WW.

They need an actress who has some big time marketing potential to get the buzz going. Jessica Biel is far more marketable then....who again? O'Keefe??

This film is going to need help when it comes to the marketing of it. The WW name alone isn't going to cause fans to just see this film. I'm sorry to say...but it won't happen. Jessica Biel has everything you would want for an origin story mid 20's WW. ALL the tools.....

I don't want an unknown experienced actress butchering this role. I have plenty of confidence in Biel!

[Dark Knight]

Why ask that question? I gave you specifics; refute them directly if you disagree.

Think I gave her name at least twice earlier: Jodi Lyn O'Keefe.

Actually, she has a a fairly lengthy resumé, and more than enough experience to make her qualified for this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005281/filmoyear

It's very possible, indeed likely, that they want an unknown (or a relative unknown), so I'm not sure what you expect as far as "marketability" goes. Jodi would be marketable enough, just like Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, and Christian Bale were.

What she looks like is the iconic Wonder Woman, much more so than Jessica Biel does anyway. Sorry, but joking won't help you here; that's plain enough to see in the pics.

Again, an acceptable choice, yes; maybe even a great choice. But there are better, like Jodi Lyn O'Keefe.



O'Keefe is NOT a better choice for WW then Jessica Biel.....your on crack if you believe that.....sorry.

[terry78]

You really can't afford an unknown for this type of role. Wolverine, Batman, Superman, etc. they did pretty well because most people know them as pop culture icons. WW is one to an extent, but she's more of an "indie" icon as most of her fans are female, which unfortunately doesn't amount to a lot in the entertainment industry. They want to capture that male demographic, as well as those that aren't familiar with WW, and Biel is known enough to bring it to light.

[Dark Knight]

Why ask that question? I gave you specifics; refute them directly if you disagree.

Think I gave her name at least twice earlier: Jodi Lyn O'Keefe.

Actually, she has a a fairly lengthy resumé, and more than enough experience to make her qualified for this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005281/filmoyear

It's very possible, indeed likely, that they want an unknown (or a relative unknown), so I'm not sure what you expect as far as "marketability" goes. Jodi would be marketable enough, just like Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, and Christian Bale were.

What she looks like is the iconic Wonder Woman, much more so than Jessica Biel does anyway. Sorry, but joking won't help you here; that's plain enough to see in the pics.

Again, an acceptable choice, yes; maybe even a great choice. But there are better, like Jodi Lyn O'Keefe.


Christian Bale and Reeve were already experienced and solid actors. Routh was not! Give it up with this unknown actress crap for WW. It's to big of a risk....and no O'Keefe does not have any iconic features of WW except for the black hair maybe?? Biel has alot more looks.....and critical experience in action and fight sequences. Plus was....O'keefe was not named sexiest woman alive in a magazine earlier this year.....Biel was!

Casting an unknown or relative unknown over an actress like Jessica Biel would be a grave mistake by Whedon, Silver and WB. Biel is more like Reeve and Bale.....then O'Keefe?? Still never seen her in anything interesting! LOL

O'Keefe?? LOL....Give me a break with that.....:whatever:

[Dark Knight]

You really can't afford an unknown for this type of role. Wolverine, Batman, Superman, etc. they did pretty well because most people know them as pop culture icons. WW is one to an extent, but she's more of an "indie" icon as most of her fans are female, which unfortunately doesn't amount to a lot in the entertainment industry. They want to capture that male demographic, as well as those that aren't familiar with WW, and Biel is known enough to bring it to light.



Exactly! :up:

[WonderWitch]

i'm gonna have to disagree, wonder woman will attract lots of people whether a known or unknown has the role. ww ranks up there with superman & batman, its just that none of the MALE execs have ever oked a ww movie. we girls have been waiting for a movie featuring a strong superheroine protagonist for a while now. every girl knows ww. every girl will want to go see the ww movie, as long as it looks good, no matter who has the role.

and please no one tell me that elecktra & catwoman bombed so ww will to if we don't have an established actress to bring in the crowds. i didn't even know who elecktra was, and even tho i love jennifer garner i didn't see it. i knew catwoman, and halle berry rocks and many men think shes gods gift to them but i didn't see it cuz it looked corny!

[SurfDUI]

This film is going to need help when it comes to the marketing of it. The WW name alone isn't going to cause fans to just see this film.

Well the average American moviegoer is a bunch more of us in here, and a population that is younger. I've always felt that in the pop concsionce there are Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Spider-Man maybe the Hulk. Any actor/tress that steps into these 4 characters knows the character is bigger than them out the gate. We've seen nothing short of memorable yet. As far as live action, her only comp is Linda Carter, who was a new face and didn't and would'nt impact the character in the future (Save Chris Reeve.)

You really can't afford an unknown for this type of role. Wolverine, Batman, Superman, etc. they did pretty well because most people know them as pop culture icons.They want to capture that male demographic

I think that the Male demographic's only issue maybe Physically going to the theater to see 'Wonder Woman'-then too there's going to see Wonder Woman.

[Gotendbz-2]

Christian Bale and Reeve were already experienced and solid actors.

Now I really don't care who Wonder Woman is (as long as it's not someone like Paris Hilton), but yes, Bale was an experienced actor, but Reeve wasn't at ALL, he was in ONE movie and a couple TV episodes before he was Superman.

[WonderWitch]

You still haven't given me any names? LOL...:oldrazz:

ya, i haven't found anyone who has both the looks & the acting chops to play ww well. and while i don' endorse taylor cole or jodi lynn o'keefe, they seem like better choices for ww than jessica. when i find someone up to my standards i'll let u know:cwink: .

[Dark Knight]

ya, i haven't found anyone who has both the looks & the acting chops to play ww well. and while i don' endorse taylor cole or jodi lynn o'keefe, they seem like better choices for ww than jessica. when i find someone up to my standards i'll let u know:cwink: .


Cole and O'Keefe better choices than Biel??? Sorry...you and the other guy should go sell crazy someplace else. We are all stocked up in these forums! LOL....


Biel all the way!

[Dark Knight]

i'm gonna have to disagree, wonder woman will attract lots of people whether a known or unknown has the role. ww ranks up there with superman & batman, its just that none of the MALE execs have ever oked a ww movie. we girls have been waiting for a movie featuring a strong superheroine protagonist for a while now. every girl knows ww. every girl will want to go see the ww movie, as long as it looks good, no matter who has the role.

and please no one tell me that elecktra & catwoman bombed so ww will to if we don't have an established actress to bring in the crowds. i didn't even know who elecktra was, and even tho i love jennifer garner i didn't see it. i knew catwoman, and halle berry rocks and many men think shes gods gift to them but i didn't see it cuz it looked corny!


Don't overestimate the name of WW alone...and it will sell the film. WB's did that with the casting of a VERY inexperienced actor like Routh with no screen charisma....and it certainly showed at the box office.

[Dark Knight]

Now I really don't care who Wonder Woman is (as long as it's not someone like Paris Hilton), but yes, Bale was an experienced actor, but Reeve wasn't at ALL, he was in ONE movie and a couple TV episodes before he was Superman.


Reeve was a pretty good stage actor as well.


Spiderman-Tobey
Batman- Bale


Biel is right in line next to those two IMO...when it comes to being a perfect casting option for a heroic role.

[Arach Knight]

Your obstinate position on the role needing to be filled by Jessica Biel, astounds me. She isn't a bad choice, and is a capable actress, but she isn't the only female who can fill the boots in this case. And everybody who knows comics, knows that Reeves was an unknown, when Donner cast him. Being an unknown is a major reason why Donner cast him. In fact, if you catch any specials on it now, you can see Reeves sweating with nervousness, right through the suit (that and it was actually hot to wear). However, he had such terrific presence, that Donner gave him the role. Prior to Superman The Movie, Reeves was only an accomplished stage actor, which is a credible achievement, but in terms of Hollywood, it is hardly a resume filler that lands you roles in huge films. Even Toby Maguire only had marginal exposure via The Cider House Rules and Pleasantville, making him an established, but unpopular actor (at the time of his casting). The role of Wonder Woman should go to the person who can look and act the part. Not to the person who won pretentious beauty awards from sexist publications like FHM, Maxim and Stuff (Not to say that I don't enjoy them for the obvious reasons. I'm just mature enough to admit that they are sexist).

[Paganus]

Christian Bale and Reeve were already experienced and solid actors. Routh was not! And your point is? O'Keefe is comparable to both Bale and Reeve in terms of experience (and she almost certainly exceeds where Reeve was at when he was cast—see below for more on that).

Give it up with this unknown actress crap for WW. It's to big of a risk.... No, I'm not giving it up. It's been done before and worked (quite well, in fact), and they've already hinted that's what they are going with here. Besides, a "name" actress is no guarantee of success either. (Did Halle Berry make Catwoman go over? How about Charlize Theron and Aeon Flux?).

Wonder Woman is an iconic figure, one most people are already familiar with, and that's what they'll be going to the movie to see. It's far more important to cast to fit that.

and no O'Keefe does not have any iconic features of WW except for the black hair maybe?? Not only the hair, but the eyes, the facial features, and (last but certainly not least) the height! (Who's smoking crack again?)

Biel has alot more looks..... Umm, no, not in the Wonder Woman looks department anyway.

and critical experience in action and fight sequences. A nice plus, yes. No doubt Jessica is very athletic, which I've said all along. But O'Keefe is a fairly athletic woman too (an avid kickboxer for one), and should be capable of preparing for something like this—the same way JB did for Blade:Trinity without any real experience going into it. I'm not so worried about direct, action-movie experience as I am about natural athletic ability, and, icing on the cake really, an athletic resumé (competitive sports experience, fitness buff, etc.). A truly athletic woman will pick this stuff up quickly enough.

Plus was....O'keefe was not named sexiest woman alive in a magazine earlier this year.....Biel was! An irrelevant point if ever there was one.

Casting an unknown or relative unknown over an actress like Jessica Biel would be a grave mistake by Whedon, Silver and WB. Biel is more like Reeve and Bale.....then O'Keefe?? Here is a link to Reeve's filmography (by year):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/filmoyear

How many credits do you see there prior to his being cast as Superman? Now, how many credits does Jodi Lyn O'Keefe currently have? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005281/filmoyear

O'Keefe?? LOL....Give me a break with that.....:whatever: Well, when you're actually able to show anyone why they should, maybe that will happen. But, you'll need something more than the drivel you provided here in order to do that.

[Paganus]

Your obstinate position on the role needing to be filled by Jessica Biel, astounds me. She isn't a bad choice, and is a capable actress, but she isn't the only female who can fill the boots in this case..... Methinks Jessica needs some new fans. I'm actually quite comfortable with her in the role, she just isn't my first pick. But I have to agree with you, this is going a little over the top now.

[SurfDUI]

Wonder Woman is an iconic figure, one most people are already familiar with, and that's what they'll be going to the movie to see. It's far more important to cast to fit that.



theme to Willile Wonka playing

You got it 'Charlie' you passed the test:yay: .

'Sweet imagination...'

[Fused]

WW is one to an extent, but she's more of an "indie" icon as most of her fans are female, which unfortunately doesn't amount to a lot in the entertainment industry.

Not to be a prick but thats entirely untrue. Box office research holds that women are far more likely to engage in repeated viewings of a film if they truly enjoy it. Guys arent the ones watching Titanic, Notbook, Little Mermaid 20 times at the theatres. I loved Batman Begins like they love theres. . . but I only saw it once on screen. Granted I wouldnt want the film to be steered in that girly direction but they do amount to alot and do have a presence.

Aeon Flux failed in taking a severly testosterone pumped subject material and tried to make it too female friendly which in the end made its audience ambiguous really. Bad desicions aside, the point is they took huge considerations with the female audience with it.

should or shouldnt they take women audience members into account for wonder woman is a different question. i just point out that they do.

[terry78]

Not to be a prick but thats entirely untrue. Box office research holds that women are far more likely to engage in repeated viewings of a film if they truly enjoy it. Guys arent the ones watching Titanic, Notbook, Little Mermaid 20 times at the theatres. I loved Batman Begins like they love theres. . . but I only saw it once on screen. Granted I wouldnt want the film to be steered in that girly direction but they do amount to alot and do have a presence.

Aeon Flux failed in taking a severly testosterone pumped subject material and tried to make it too female friendly which in the end made its audience ambiguous really. Bad desicions aside, the point is they took huge considerations with the female audience with it.

should or shouldnt they take women audience members into account for wonder woman is a different question. i just point out that they do.
True enough, but this movie's budget is going to be quite large, and most movies geared towards females have a lower budget. They just do. Will it be able to hold its own, is what I'm asking.

[WonderWitch]

it will be able to hold its own! women deserve big budget movies too!

[Arach Knight]

Wonder Woman is not as popular as she used to be, if you are reviewing comic book sales...but to that respect, neither would Superman, who has only recently returned to being a top 10 seller. Wonder Woman however, has a strong legacy. Guys can appreciate her, for being a strong feminine yet beautiful character. In a ways, she is the idealistic take on what a man wants in a woman. To actual women, Wonder Woman represents strength and independence, rather than having to be this supple house wife. Trust me...Wonder Woman has a huge enough market.

[Dark Knight]

And your point is? O'Keefe is comparable to both Bale and Reeve in terms of experience (and she almost certainly exceeds where Reeve was at when he was cast—see below for more on that).

No, I'm not giving it up. It's been done before and worked (quite well, in fact), and they've already hinted that's what they are going with here. Besides, a "name" actress is no guarantee of success either. (Did Halle Berry make Catwoman go over? How about Charlize Theron and Aeon Flux?).

Wonder Woman is an iconic figure, one most people are already familiar with, and that's what they'll be going to the movie to see. It's far more important to cast to fit that.

Not only the hair, but the eyes, the facial features, and (last but certainly not least) the height! (Who's smoking crack again?)

Umm, no, not in the Wonder Woman looks department anyway.

A nice plus, yes. No doubt Jessica is very athletic, which I've said all along. But O'Keefe is a fairly athletic woman too (an avid kickboxer for one), and should be capable of preparing for something like this—the same way JB did for Blade:Trinity without any real experience going into it. I'm not so worried about direct, action-movie experience as I am about natural athletic ability, and, icing on the cake really, an athletic resumé (competitive sports experience, fitness buff, etc.). A truly athletic woman will pick this stuff up quickly enough.

An irrelevant point if ever there was one.

Here is a link to Reeve's filmography (by year):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/filmoyear

How many credits do you see there prior to his being cast as Superman? Now, how many credits does Jodi Lyn O'Keefe currently have? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005281/filmoyear

Well, when you're actually able to show anyone why they should, maybe that will happen. But, you'll need something more than the drivel you provided here in order to do that.


Lets just make this short and sweet and get over with...for now at least.

Would the general movie audience be more attracted to see a WW starring Jessica Biel........or would they me more excited to see a complete unknown or with limited acting experience in the role as WW?? Think a little and then give me your response. I already know you will pull that ridiculous argument "it's WW people will see it no matter what" thats a week argument. The WW movie will need some pull from it's star...and I think Biel would give WW that extra edge!

[Paganus]

Lets just make this short and sweet and get over with...for now at least. Short and sweet is fine with me (this has gone on longer than it should have already).

Would the general movie audience be more attracted to see a WW starring Jessica Biel........or would they me more excited to see a complete unknown or with limited acting experience in the role as WW?? Think a little and then give me your response. I already know you will pull that ridiculous argument "it's WW people will see it no matter what" thats a week argument. The WW movie will need some pull from it's star...and I think Biel would give WW that extra edge! People will go see a Wonder Woman movie that is well produced and properly cast, and a celebrity isn't required to make that happen. Sorry, but your "star"-factor argument simply doesn't wash. Reeve pulled off Superman at the box office, and he was about as close to a complete unknown as you can get. Bale as Batman, also a far cry from a household name. Brandon Routh—and no, he wasn't the problem with Superman Returns—was generally well received too. Conversely, Halle Berry and Charlize Theron (both arguably much bigger, more established stars than Jessica Biel) did virtually nothing with Catwoman and Aeon Flux. So it all adds up to a point that isn't. Clearly it doesn't guarantee anything, and may not make much of a difference at all with these types of roles.

Finally, acting experience one last time. I'm not sure how someone with 75+ film and television credits, ten years' worth, has only "limited" acting experience. I would call that a decent amount of experience, actually. Moreover, I'm assuming that Whedon, Silver, et al. can make a competent, professional determination on acting ability, and suitability for this particular role, through auditions, etc., much like Donner was able to do in Reeve's case. (And if they aren't capable of doing that, umm, that doesn't bode well for this movie anyway, does it?)

[Lucid]

I think you guys should be talking more about Monica Dean. She was suggested a few pages back and looks strikingly like the comic Wonder Woman. I know there are different versions drawn and I'm not an expert on Wonder Woman's history of artists, but take a look at these examples.

http://home.planet.nl/~neef0049/Image4440855.gifhttp://www.feeder.ro/monica_dean_lost_46216.jpg

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r30_a42005-(5).jpg&max=600http://www.alexross.com/CP1326-Wonder-Woman-Mytholo.jpg

That's quite remarkable, if you ask me. It almost looks like we're looking at drawings of Monica Dean herself, as if she really is Wonder Woman.

I've only seen her on the show "Lost" and her acting was fine. She actually looks more like Wonder Woman in live-action than in these photos. I know there are other factors to casting Wonder Woman other than just facial features, like height and accent, but it seems like Monica Dean should at least be seriously discussed because the resemblance is remarkable.

I think Taylor Cole is the only other serious candidate, but something feels off to me about her. She definitely has the right face shape and glowing blue eyes, but she has a quality of immaturity about her. For me, Wonder Woman should carry a wisdom that the actor must naturally possess and Taylor Cole doesn't have that. Taylor Cole also gives off a quality of weakness, or rather, the opposite of steadfast and intimidating. These qualities are variations of the general quality of "strength," which, in a superhero, must go beyond mere physical strength and also be a mental and moral strength. The actress playing Wonder Woman must radiate these qualities from her very being, for they're qualities that can't be acted. I don't feel that Taylor Cole radiates these qualities.

Monica Dean, on the other hand, definitely radiates a maturity, wisdom, and strength while still being young and attractive, the best of all worlds. I'm not saying Dean should get the part, but I think people on this board should be buzzing about her.

I wonder when we'll hear news about casting.

[Dark Knight]

Short and sweet is fine with me (this has gone on longer than it should have already).

People will go see a Wonder Woman movie that is well produced and properly cast, and a celebrity isn't required to make that happen. Sorry, but your "star"-factor argument simply doesn't wash. Reeve pulled off Superman at the box office, and he was about as close to a complete unknown as you can get. Bale as Batman, also a far cry from a household name. Brandon Routh—and no, he wasn't the problem with Superman Returns—was generally well received too. Conversely, Halle Berry and Charlize Theron (both arguably much bigger, more established stars than Jessica Biel) did virtually nothing with Catwoman and Aeon Flux. So it all adds up to a point that isn't. Clearly it doesn't guarantee anything, and may not make much of a difference at all with these types of roles.

Finally, acting experience one last time. I'm not sure how someone with 75+ film and television credits, ten years' worth, has only "limited" acting experience. I would call that a decent amount of experience, actually. Moreover, I'm assuming that Whedon, Silver, et al. can make a competent, professional determination on acting ability, and suitability for this particular role, through auditions, etc., much like Donner was able to do in Reeve's case. (And if they aren't capable of doing that, umm, that doesn't bode well for this movie anyway, does it?)


Dude...Halle Berry and Charlize Theron are way bigger stars than Jessica Biel. A more favorable comparison is Bale and Biel.....look at there film resumes....very similiar.

Also....the problem with CINO, Aeion Flux and Elektra was NOT with the actress's who were cast......it was the STORY and SCREENPLAY!

Please don't start with the Donner getting Reeve thing.....that was in the late 70's!! Reeve was also a Julliard trained actor. Comapring the situations between Reeve and Routh is comapring apples to peaches. Routh showed no emotion and was stale as Supes....and just flat as Kent. Hope he improves in the sequel.

I have already listed the MANY pro's of potentially casting Biel as WW.

If Biel gets cast.....marketing has to to remain about the epic story.....not Jessica Biel or anyother actess as WW. However seeing Biel in the title role....would bring some strong buzz, thats for sure. This film will need that. The WW name alone will not be able to do that....as some of you people here are thinking wishfully.

[Dark Knight]

Wonder Woman is not as popular as she used to be, if you are reviewing comic book sales...but to that respect, neither would Superman, who has only recently returned to being a top 10 seller. Wonder Woman however, has a strong legacy. Guys can appreciate her, for being a strong feminine yet beautiful character. In a ways, she is the idealistic take on what a man wants in a woman. To actual women, Wonder Woman represents strength and independence, rather than having to be this supple house wife. Trust me...Wonder Woman has a huge enough market.


Don't know about that.....what it's gonna come down to is the how the story is told on screen and how it is marketed to generate the necessary buzz.

If the budget is 150 million.....the WW name alone will not make that money back. Getting a great and epic story....(no camp) finding the right fit of a leading actress to star who is not a huge overexposed star...but is a known actress who is coming into her own who is beautiful, has the physique, has solid acting experience on the big screen and is young and do action and fight sequences who can generate some buzz at the sametime (Biel) then the elements would be there for folks to watch the film more than once and be pumped to see it. I personally would hope the WW budget does not pass 125 million. Anything more I fear would be a mistake by WB's.

[Dark Knight]

Your obstinate position on the role needing to be filled by Jessica Biel, astounds me. She isn't a bad choice, and is a capable actress, but she isn't the only female who can fill the boots in this case. And everybody who knows comics, knows that Reeves was an unknown, when Donner cast him. Being an unknown is a major reason why Donner cast him. In fact, if you catch any specials on it now, you can see Reeves sweating with nervousness, right through the suit (that and it was actually hot to wear). However, he had such terrific presence, that Donner gave him the role. Prior to Superman The Movie, Reeves was only an accomplished stage actor, which is a credible achievement, but in terms of Hollywood, it is hardly a resume filler that lands you roles in huge films. Even Toby Maguire only had marginal exposure via The Cider House Rules and Pleasantville, making him an established, but unpopular actor (at the time of his casting). The role of Wonder Woman should go to the person who can look and act the part. Not to the person who won pretentious beauty awards from sexist publications like FHM, Maxim and Stuff (Not to say that I don't enjoy them for the obvious reasons. I'm just mature enough to admit that they are sexist).



Of course there can be others....just call me a Biel supporter how is that?

[Dark Knight]

And your point is? O'Keefe is comparable to both Bale and Reeve in terms of experience (and she almost certainly exceeds where Reeve was at when he was cast—see below for more on that).

No, I'm not giving it up. It's been done before and worked (quite well, in fact), and they've already hinted that's what they are going with here. Besides, a "name" actress is no guarantee of success either. (Did Halle Berry make Catwoman go over? How about Charlize Theron and Aeon Flux?).

Wonder Woman is an iconic figure, one most people are already familiar with, and that's what they'll be going to the movie to see. It's far more important to cast to fit that.

Not only the hair, but the eyes, the facial features, and (last but certainly not least) the height! (Who's smoking crack again?)

Umm, no, not in the Wonder Woman looks department anyway.

A nice plus, yes. No doubt Jessica is very athletic, which I've said all along. But O'Keefe is a fairly athletic woman too (an avid kickboxer for one), and should be capable of preparing for something like this—the same way JB did for Blade:Trinity without any real experience going into it. I'm not so worried about direct, action-movie experience as I am about natural athletic ability, and, icing on the cake really, an athletic resumé (competitive sports experience, fitness buff, etc.). A truly athletic woman will pick this stuff up quickly enough.

An irrelevant point if ever there was one.

Here is a link to Reeve's filmography (by year):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001659/filmoyear

How many credits do you see there prior to his being cast as Superman? Now, how many credits does Jodi Lyn O'Keefe currently have? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005281/filmoyear

Well, when you're actually able to show anyone why they should, maybe that will happen. But, you'll need something more than the drivel you provided here in order to do that.



I have already repeated myself at least 8 times...regarding the pros for Biel as WW. Can't do it again buddy....go back and read some previous posts about what she can being to the role.

[terry78]

I confess Monica Dean would be a good choice, as her website seems to have some decent shots of her. www.monicadean.ro.

The question is, how good is her range?

[Dark Knight]

Oh and just because an actress doesn't look like a certain drawing of WW that is your personal ideal look or because she doesn't look like Linda Carter (who was NOT an ideal WW) doesn't mean an actress of Biels caliber should not be a candidate. Those are not valid reasons people

[Dark Knight]

doube post

[Fused]

I think you guys should be talking more about Monica Dean. She was suggested a few pages back and looks strikingly like the comic Wonder Woman. I know there are different versions drawn and I'm not an expert on Wonder Woman's history of artists, but take a look at these examples.

http://home.planet.nl/~neef0049/Image4440855.gifhttp://www.feeder.ro/monica_dean_lost_46216.jpg

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r30_a42005-(5).jpg&max=600http://www.alexross.com/CP1326-Wonder-Woman-Mytholo.jpg

That's quite remarkable, if you ask me. It almost looks like we're looking at drawings of Monica Dean herself, as if she really is Wonder Woman.

I've only seen her on the show "Lost" and her acting was fine. She actually looks more like Wonder Woman in live-action than in these photos. I know there are other factors to casting Wonder Woman other than just facial features, like height and accent, but it seems like Monica Dean should at least be seriously discussed because the resemblance is remarkable.

I think Taylor Cole is the only other serious candidate, but something feels off to me about her. She definitely has the right face shape and glowing blue eyes, but she has a quality of immaturity about her. For me, Wonder Woman should carry a wisdom that the actor must naturally possess and Taylor Cole doesn't have that. Taylor Cole also gives off a quality of weakness, or rather, the opposite of steadfast and intimidating. These qualities are variations of the general quality of "strength," which, in a superhero, must go beyond mere physical strength and also be a mental and moral strength. The actress playing Wonder Woman must radiate these qualities from her very being, for they're qualities that can't be acted. I don't feel that Taylor Cole radiates these qualities.

Monica Dean, on the other hand, definitely radiates a maturity, wisdom, and strength while still being young and attractive, the best of all worlds. I'm not saying Dean should get the part, but I think people on this board should be buzzing about her.

I wonder when we'll here news about casting.


i would doubt shed ever get cast but if i could bend reality id have monica dean play WW. i could guarantee that woman being perfect and getting shot into super-stardom.

[Bullseye]

I really think Monica Belluci and Morena Baccarin may be the best two choices. I also like Natalie Portman for the role. Charisma Carpenter seems to be a popular choice for the role.

I have to wonder if Whedon has really considered either of those choices for the role.

[terry78]

Belluci is too old. She's attractive, but we all know she's old.

[Paganus]

Dude...Halle Berry and Charlize Theron are way bigger stars than Jessica Biel. A more favorable comparison is Bale and Biel.....look at there film resumes....very similiar. This so completely misses the point that it is laughable. The fact that they are WAY bigger stars means they had even more marketability (thanks to their increased "star power") and, considering their status, they should have, according to your logic anyway, practically guaranteed at least some success at the box office. But that didn't happen.

Also....the problem with CINO, Aeion Flux and Elektra was NOT with the actress's who were cast......it was the STORY and SCREENPLAY! No, not entirely correct. Other than possibly Elektra, which has gotten a much worse rap that it deserves, the casting simply wasn't that spot on (Halle Berry even received a Razzie, worst actress award, for her performance in Catwoman). And the "star power," not to mention acting credentials, you're talking about with a Halle Berry and Charlize Theron should have resulted in, at a minimum, a slightly better outcome than we got, if we're to take your point that seriously.

So once again, putting a "star" in one of these roles obviously guarantees nothing, and should only be, at best, a secondary consideration.

Please don't start with the Donner getting Reeve thing.....that was in the late 70's!! Explain to me why that makes a difference here.

Reeve was also a Julliard trained actor. Another irrelevant point. The truth of the matter is, Donner interviewed and auditioned Reeve (I'm sure he did others as well), and determined, based on his impressions, that Reeve was the guy for the role. Prior to this Reeve had little experience in front of a camera (only a few television and film credits) and was, practically speaking, a complete unknown. Yet he worked out fine, both in terms of his performance and the movie's marketability. Why you keep trying to argue about something as obvious as this is beyond me.

Comapring the situations between Reeve and Routh is comapring apples to peaches. Routh showed no emotion and was stale as Supes....and just flat as Kent. Hope he improves in the sequel. Your opinion; I know quite a few people that think differently. In fact, of the people I talk with who were disappointed in the movie, and not everyone was, few cite Routh as the, or even a, problem with it.

I have already listed the MANY pro's of potentially casting Biel as WW.

If Biel gets cast.....marketing has to to remain about the epic story.....not Jessica Biel or anyother actess as WW. Okay, you're getting warm now...

However seeing Biel in the title role....would bring some strong buzz, thats for sure. This film will need that. The WW name alone will not be able to do that....as some of you people here are thinking wishfully. Oops, a step backwards. So tell me, Why are so many people posting about this, here and elsewhere on the Internet—this one thread alone has over 5000 replies? (In fact, why are you spending so much time here talking about it? ) Why have we already seen quite a few instances of female celebrities positioning themselves for the Wonder Woman role, or insinuating that they are up for it as a publicity stunt?

Now why is it again that you think this film needs help generating buzz?

[Bullseye]

Belluci is too old. She's attractive, but we all know she's old.

No, I don't think she's too old for the role. And really she's was my first choice for WW. Though I doubt she would be cast for WW.

[JBElliott]

I think you guys should be talking more about Monica Dean. She was suggested a few pages back and looks strikingly like the comic Wonder Woman. I know there are different versions drawn and I'm not an expert on Wonder Woman's history of artists, but take a look at these examples.

http://home.planet.nl/~neef0049/Image4440855.gifhttp://www.feeder.ro/monica_dean_lost_46216.jpg

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r30_a42005-(5).jpg&max=600http://www.alexross.com/CP1326-Wonder-Woman-Mytholo.jpg

That's quite remarkable, if you ask me. It almost looks like we're looking at drawings of Monica Dean herself, as if she really is Wonder Woman.

I've only seen her on the show "Lost" and her acting was fine. She actually looks more like Wonder Woman in live-action than in these photos. I know there are other factors to casting Wonder Woman other than just facial features, like height and accent, but it seems like Monica Dean should at least be seriously discussed because the resemblance is remarkable.

I think Taylor Cole is the only other serious candidate, but something feels off to me about her. She definitely has the right face shape and glowing blue eyes, but she has a quality of immaturity about her. For me, Wonder Woman should carry a wisdom that the actor must naturally possess and Taylor Cole doesn't have that. Taylor Cole also gives off a quality of weakness, or rather, the opposite of steadfast and intimidating. These qualities are variations of the general quality of "strength," which, in a superhero, must go beyond mere physical strength and also be a mental and moral strength. The actress playing Wonder Woman must radiate these qualities from her very being, for they're qualities that can't be acted. I don't feel that Taylor Cole radiates these qualities.

Monica Dean, on the other hand, definitely radiates a maturity, wisdom, and strength while still being young and attractive, the best of all worlds. I'm not saying Dean should get the part, but I think people on this board should be buzzing about her.

I wonder when we'll here news about casting.

I've thought she would be a good WW since I saw her on Lost last year.

[JBElliott]

No, I don't think she's too old for the role. And really she's was my first choice for WW. Though I doubt she would be cast for WW.

She is too old for the part and there are plenty of actresses better suited, both physically and ability wise, for the part than her. She's in the top ten, but just barely.

[Bullseye]

Bah! I don't think age would make that much of a difference.

Other than her, I say Morena Baccarin. Talent. Looks. Morena has got it all.

[Paganus]

Other than her, I say Morena Baccarin. Talent. Looks. Morena has got it all.Nope. Morena is a cute girl, but I can't picture her as Wonder Woman. She's frail and relatively unathletic, not really that tall either—far from ideal to play a formidable Amazon.

[halfapple]

I think you guys should be talking more about Monica Dean. She was suggested a few pages back and looks strikingly like the comic Wonder Woman. I know there are different versions drawn and I'm not an expert on Wonder Woman's history of artists, but take a look at these examples.

http://home.planet.nl/~neef0049/Image4440855.gifhttp://www.feeder.ro/monica_dean_lost_46216.jpg

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r30_a42005-(5).jpg&max=600http://www.alexross.com/CP1326-Wonder-Woman-Mytholo.jpg

That's quite remarkable, if you ask me. It almost looks like we're looking at drawings of Monica Dean herself, as if she really is Wonder Woman.

I've only seen her on the show "Lost" and her acting was fine. She actually looks more like Wonder Woman in live-action than in these photos. I know there are other factors to casting Wonder Woman other than just facial features, like height and accent, but it seems like Monica Dean should at least be seriously discussed because the resemblance is remarkable.

I think Taylor Cole is the only other serious candidate, but something feels off to me about her. She definitely has the right face shape and glowing blue eyes, but she has a quality of immaturity about her. For me, Wonder Woman should carry a wisdom that the actor must naturally possess and Taylor Cole doesn't have that. Taylor Cole also gives off a quality of weakness, or rather, the opposite of steadfast and intimidating. These qualities are variations of the general quality of "strength," which, in a superhero, must go beyond mere physical strength and also be a mental and moral strength. The actress playing Wonder Woman must radiate these qualities from her very being, for they're qualities that can't be acted. I don't feel that Taylor Cole radiates these qualities.

Monica Dean, on the other hand, definitely radiates a maturity, wisdom, and strength while still being young and attractive, the best of all worlds. I'm not saying Dean should get the part, but I think people on this board should be buzzing about her.

I wonder when we'll here news about casting.

Wow she looks Great!

I could see her as WonderWoman sure.

[batbat_29640]

I think you guys should be talking more about Monica Dean. She was suggested a few pages back and looks strikingly like the comic Wonder Woman. I know there are different versions drawn and I'm not an expert on Wonder Woman's history of artists, but take a look at these examples.

http://home.planet.nl/%7Eneef0049/Image4440855.gifhttp://www.feeder.ro/monica_dean_lost_46216.jpg

http://www.monicadean.info/resize.php?file=upload/r30_a42005-%285%29.jpg&max=600http://www.alexross.com/CP1326-Wonder-Woman-Mytholo.jpg

That's quite remarkable, if you ask me. It almost looks like we're looking at drawings of Monica Dean herself, as if she really is Wonder Woman.

I've only seen her on the show "Lost" and her acting was fine. She actually looks more like Wonder Woman in live-action than in these photos. I know there are other factors to casting Wonder Woman other than just facial features, like height and accent, but it seems like Monica Dean should at least be seriously discussed because the resemblance is remarkable.

I think Taylor Cole is the only other serious candidate, but something feels off to me about her. She definitely has the right face shape and glowing blue eyes, but she has a quality of immaturity about her. For me, Wonder Woman should carry a wisdom that the actor must naturally possess and Taylor Cole doesn't have that. Taylor Cole also gives off a quality of weakness, or rather, the opposite of steadfast and intimidating. These qualities are variations of the general quality of "strength," which, in a superhero, must go beyond mere physical strength and also be a mental and moral strength. The actress playing Wonder Woman must radiate these qualities from her very being, for they're qualities that can't be acted. I don't feel that Taylor Cole radiates these qualities.

Monica Dean, on the other hand, definitely radiates a maturity, wisdom, and strength while still being young and attractive, the best of all worlds. I'm not saying Dean should get the part, but I think people on this board should be buzzing about her.

I wonder when we'll here news about casting.Man!! She does look like a Linda Carter clone. And shen matches the Ross's work . . . I'm down.

[The Shredder]

Nope. Morena is a cute girl, but I can't picture her as Wonder Woman. She's frail and relatively unathletic, not really that tall either—far from ideal to play a formidable Amazon.

I disagree. I can totally see Morena as WW.

As far as what your personal opinion on her body type goes, it's all pretty subjective. As there are many actresses who celeb magazines point the finger at for looking too "frail" and then marvel at the same actress months later for looking absolutely "Fabulous". Training can easily work wonders with not only Morena, but any actress who is suggested. I tend to think the acting element edges out the "look" for WW. As I've said before, I don't believe this will be a particularly easy role for any actress. Let alone an unknown. Unlike other names I could mention that have been brought up for the role, I feel that Morena is very capable as an actress to not only make the role her own, but also bring in a very memorable performance as well. Which is important with a role like this. Eye candy is good and all, but it definately shouldnt be the end all, be all for WW's first big screen feature film.

[Fused]

Monica Dean

http://www.monicadean.info/upload/r31_a52005.jpg

http://www.evz.ro/files/POZE/APRILIE/8%20aprilie/20Monica-Birladeanu.jpg

http://stiri.zoot.ro/data/images/2006/05/11/115627.jpg

Mmm.

[Arach Knight]

In the second photo, she looks most like Diana. Well...more like Hippolyta...but same difference.

[Paganus]

I disagree. I can totally see Morena as WW.

As far as what your personal opinion on her body type goes, it's all pretty subjective. As there are many actresses who celeb magazines point the finger at for looking too "frail" and then marvel at the same actress months later for looking absolutely "Fabulous". Training can easily work wonders with not only Morena, but any actress who is suggested. Beauty is certainly somewhat subjective, but athleticism isn't so much. It really doesn't take a lot of effort, or expertise, to look at Morena's photos and see that she is a relatively frail and unathletic woman.

While training can do a lot (i.e., lose baby weight, tone up some, etc.), it isn't going to turn just any woman into Wonder Woman, especially not in the time frame we are talking about here. It's not that easy to do anyway, and, on average, it is many times harder for women to train up for something like this. It will take a woman who is at least somewhat athletic to begin with, and anyone with experience in this area will tell you that. It's pretty clear based on Morena's physique and biographical data that she doesn't fit that bill.

I tend to think the acting element edges out the "look" for WW. I tend to think both would be nice, and I see no reason to think they are mutually exclusive.

As I've said before, I don't believe this will be a particularly easy role for any actress. Agreed; it will take a special woman to play Wonder Woman. I don't consider that a bad thing, though.

[Arach Knight]

I beg to differ Paganus. Monica Dean is not unathletic. The use of that term is far too broad, and thus conveys a vauge meaning. If by athletic, you mean weight training, then no, she obviously does not. That much is obvious by the fact that she has the amount of folds beneath her armpits and her breasts, are typical to a womans upper body area (not a sign of poor health, but rather a typical trait of that area for women with breasts that size and greater). However, it is also fairly obvious that she probably engages in more aerobic/cardiovascular work. The tone of her upper thigh and buttocks, as well as the defintion of her calves (as seen in the last photo) denotes that she either walks more than she utilizes vehicular transportation, or she engages in something like yoga or jogging (or perhaps both). Her muscles are not well defined, but they are lean, which indicates that she does engage in physical activity on a regular basis. Lastly, she has a greater presence of veins in her upper most region (chest, neck). While it is possible to naturally have such veination, it is also possible to develop that, from frequent exercise (diameter increases over time in the vein, to allow more blood, which allows more oxygen to the muscles). She isn't Miss Olympia, but she is far from the old bag you attempt to make her to be.

[Paganus]

I beg to differ Paganus. Monica Dean is not unathletic. There's a problem here Arach Knight, we weren't talking about Monica Dean.

She isn't Miss Olympia, but she is far from the old bag you attempt to make her to be. Ouch. That's a little over the top, isn't it? Saying someone is relatively unathletic is a far, far cry from insinuating they are an old bag or something. Calm down there, friend.

[The Shredder]

Beauty is certainly somewhat subjective, but athleticism isn't so much. It really doesn't take a lot of effort, or expertise, to look at Morena's photos and see that she is a relatively frail and unathletic woman.

Again, we are talking about something that is entirely subjective. To tell you the truth, I don't consider Morena to be that frail, or a completely unathletic woman as you apparently think she is. But again, we must agree to disagree on this issue.

While training can do a lot (i.e., lose baby weight, tone up some, etc.), it isn't going to turn just any woman into Wonder Woman, especially not in the time frame we are talking about here. It's not that easy to do anyway, and, on average, it is many times harder for women to train up for something like this. It will take a woman who is at least somewhat athletic to begin with, and anyone with experience in this area will tell you that. It's pretty clear based on Morena's physique and biographical data that she doesn't fit that bill.

Of course training won't turn any woman on earth to a complete Wonder Woman, but training does work wonders for the body. Male or female. And I have to say that if Joss gave Morena the phone call and asked her to train as hard as she could for the part, theres no doubt that her physique would change after some months training. There's no denying that. Now I understand that you personally don't think she has the body for the role, and thats cool. We'll agree to disagree there as well. But what's this about her Biographical data?

I tend to think both would be nice, and I see no reason to think they are mutually exclusive.

The acting part just edges out the looks department for me. Of course whoever is cast must look the part as well, but I find myself a bit more concerned with acting ability, and a TV or filmography than looks. As there are numerous girls who can subjectively be seen as Wonder Woman based purely on appearance.

Agreed; it will take a special woman to play Wonder Woman. I don't consider that a bad thing, though.

Can't say that I do either.

[Arach Knight]

My mistake...I saw Morena and misread that as Monica. However, that renders your further comments (both you Paganus, and Shredder) dismissable. Since I was speaking about an entirely different person, my comments are invalid, and thus responses to them are equally invalid.

[Paganus]

Again, we are talking about something that is entirely subjective. No, this is something we pretty much have a textbook definition for:
http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/bodytype.htm
http://www.weightlossforall.com/body-types-weight-loss.htm
(See Mesomorph Body Type, which is what is ordinarily being referred to as "athletic" in everyday conversation.)

Furthermore, this is a readily understood term used all the time to describe people; i.e., it's quite common to hear someone say this woman or that man does/does not look athletic.

So how you've come to believe that this is something "entirely subjective" I have not a clue. Maybe in your mind it is, but as a practical matter, and for most people, it really isn't.

To tell you the truth, I don't consider Morena to be that frail, or a completely unathletic woman as you apparently think she is. But again, we must agree to disagree on this issue. One can plainly see that she is soft, thin, and devoid of muscle tone, nor does she have shoulders, certainly not broad ones anyway (in more precise terms, she is much closer to ectomorphic than mesomorphic).

So that's what I'm basing my "opinion" on, just as others do almost every time her name comes up in this context.

Of course training won't turn any woman on earth to a complete Wonder Woman, but training does work wonders for the body. Male or female. Again, it can often do a lot, given enough time. But it is not going to turn just any woman into Wonder Woman in the relatively short period of time we're talking about.

And I have to say that if Joss gave Morena the phone call and asked her to train as hard as she could for the part, theres no doubt that her physique would change after some months training. There's no denying that. Yes, it would some, but enough? That's the question. It doesn't seem very likely to me.

Now I understand that you personally don't think she has the body for the role, and thats cool. We'll agree to disagree there as well. But what's this about her Biographical data? She does not have a background in sports or fitness. The point being that, if she had done something in her past (competitive sports, training up for a similar type of role, etc.) that prepared her for this, I'd be a little more inclined to think she could possibly do it. But that isn't the case.

The acting part just edges out the looks department for me. Of course whoever is cast must look the part as well, but I find myself a bit more concerned with acting ability, and a TV or filmography than looks. As there are numerous girls who can subjectively be seen as Wonder Woman based purely on appearance. Again, it's not an either-or situation and doesn't have to be viewed that way. And it's really about more than just "looks," it's about having the kind of physical presence that people will respect in the role. While the iconic look (hair, eyes, etc.) would be very nice to have, I don't consider that nearly as important as her overall physical presence.

Wonder Woman is supposed to be an imposing character, comparable to Superman, and that needs to be given the kind of consideration it deserves here. The actress will not be taken seriously as a superstrong, hyperathletic Amazon if she doesn't at least look the part. So, for the same reason we don't cast Pee Wee Herman types as Superman, this is very important. It will take a combination of stature and build to produce that impression; and Morena, I'm afraid, simply doesn't excel in either category.

[The Shredder]

No, this is something we pretty much have a textbook definition for:
http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/bodytype.htm (http://www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/bodytype.htm)
http://www.weightlossforall.com/body-types-weight-loss.htm (http://www.weightlossforall.com/body-types-weight-loss.htm)
(See Mesomorph Body Type, which is what is ordinarily being referred to as "athletic" in everyday conversation.)
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Appreciate you taking the time out to post some links, but I see you still fail to see the point. You view Morena as an actress who is virtually unable to portray any character who is remotely "athletic" (and apparently think only a certain kind of body type will do with Biographical data being something of an issue as well for whatever reasons), where I can very easily see Morena portraying a character that is WW. And although she may not be able to be an exact body double for the WW that is featured in the comics, Morena very well may be able to get her figure to something more to Joss' liking. Because if anything, this film will be Joss Whedon's version of WW. NOT a complete and total carbon copy of what we have already seen in other media. Which has been quite evident given his interviews regarding this project.


One can plainly see that she is soft, thin, and devoid of muscle tone, nor does she have shoulders, certainly not broad ones anyway (in more precise terms, she is much closer to ectomorphic than mesomorphic).


Yeah, and some would have said the same thing about Michelle Pfieffer being cast in Batman Returns. Different type of role, sure. But hopefully you get the point this time.


So that's what I'm basing my "opinion" on, just as others do almost every time her name comes up in this context.


Yeah, and it's a tired argument. Unfortunately her name does come up quite often despite of said "opinion" doesnt it? Everyone has their own personal view of how or who WW should be. Which is exactly why we have seen so many different names ( as well as body types ;) ) mentioned for the role in this thread. Obviously Whedon is no exception.


Again, it can often do a lot, given enough time. But it is not going to turn just any woman into Wonder Woman in the relatively short period of time we're talking about.


Exactly what kind of time period ARE we talking about here??? As far as I know, this film is still set for a 2007 release. But that's looking fairly iffy at this point. Given the updates, or lack there of with this particular film.


Again, it's not an either-or situation and doesn't have to be viewed that way. And it's really about more than just "looks," it's about having the kind of physical presence that people will respect in the role. While the iconic look (hair, eyes, etc.) would be very nice to have, I don't consider that nearly as important as her overall physical presence.


Unfortunately, Joss' decision will not make everyone happy. Nor should it to be honest. But as you say, the actress' physical presence should be important. But it doesnt have to be a either/or type of viewpoint. However as I've said before, I see the acting ability of the actress who lands this role to be the edge that will prove this film into a blockbuster, or a potential failure. Some people can have a great presence, but the minute they open their mouth, forget about it. Casting is crucial in a film like this, but again, unfortunately the choice Joss makes will not leave everyone thrilled. Because once again, this film is Joss' own interpretation of how he views the WW character. I believe he's made that fairly clear in his interviews about the film itself.


Wonder Woman is supposed to be an imposing character, comparable to Superman, and that needs to be given the kind of consideration it deserves here. The actress will not be taken seriously as a superstrong, hyperathletic Amazon if she doesn't at least look the part. So, for the same reason we don't cast Pee Wee Herman types as Superman, this is very important. It will take a combination of stature and build to produce that impression; and Morena, I'm afraid, simply doesn't excel in either category.


To break it all down, it all boils down to what type of Amazon Joss wants for his own interpretation of WW. Which once again, may not necessarily be a completely faithful copy of how WW is presented in the comics medium. Which honestly, isnt something that is totally out of the question. Nor should it be. Especially considering the interviews with Joss discussing how he plans to change a few aspects in his script. Now as far as Superman goes, I can tell you that there are number of people who didnt find Routh to be anything remotely intimidating. So thats something of a moot point, I'm afraid. However lacking that factor didnt hurt his performance one bit. As for Morena, I believe she is very capable of turning in a not only great, but unique performance as WW. And personally speaking, this is something I would definately prefer to see in WW's first film feature.

[Dark Knight]

Mmm.


How old is Dean? If she is 30 or older....than her chances are slim. She is hot though...

[Dark Knight]

This so completely misses the point that it is laughable. The fact that they are WAY bigger stars means they had even more marketability (thanks to their increased "star power") and, considering their status, they should have, according to your logic anyway, practically guaranteed at least some success at the box office. But that didn't happen.

No, not entirely correct. Other than possibly Elektra, which has gotten a much worse rap that it deserves, the casting simply wasn't that spot on (Halle Berry even received a Razzie, worst actress award, for her performance in Catwoman). And the "star power," not to mention acting credentials, you're talking about with a Halle Berry and Charlize Theron should have resulted in, at a minimum, a slightly better outcome than we got, if we're to take your point that seriously.

So once again, putting a "star" in one of these roles obviously guarantees nothing, and should only be, at best, a secondary consideration.

Explain to me why that makes a difference here.

Another irrelevant point. The truth of the matter is, Donner interviewed and auditioned Reeve (I'm sure he did others as well), and determined, based on his impressions, that Reeve was the guy for the role. Prior to this Reeve had little experience in front of a camera (only a few television and film credits) and was, practically speaking, a complete unknown. Yet he worked out fine, both in terms of his performance and the movie's marketability. Why you keep trying to argue about something as obvious as this is beyond me.

Your opinion; I know quite a few people that think differently. In fact, of the people I talk with who were disappointed in the movie, and not everyone was, few cite Routh as the, or even a, problem with it.

Okay, you're getting warm now...

Oops, a step backwards. So tell me, Why are so many people posting about this, here and elsewhere on the Internet—this one thread alone has over 5000 replies? (In fact, why are you spending so much time here talking about it? ) Why have we already seen quite a few instances of female celebrities positioning themselves for the Wonder Woman role, or insinuating that they are up for it as a publicity stunt?

Now why is it again that you think this film needs help generating buzz?



Uhhh....hate to break it to you.....but we fans here are not the main general movie audience. There are "some" other people besides us Hype fans in this world. :whatever: