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Hunter Rider
12-24-2004, 11:14 AM
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http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8562/allwet3so.jpg

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8995/monicamorning3iv.jpg


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dpm07
12-25-2004, 09:07 AM
As beautiful as Bellucci is (And she is beautiful), I really don't see WB going with a choice her age. I'm not so sure about Connelly and for the same reasons. This is not to say I wouldn't mind seeing either as WW, although there is nothing I have seen Bellucci do which which leads me to believe she has the athleticism for the part. However, if DC/WB are going to go the younger route as has been evidenced with Superman, than I think they could probably find an ideal candidate in Tsianina Joelson. Granted, she is 29 years old, but still a little younger than the aforementioned Jennifer Connelly or Monica Bellucci.

Age will be a factor. It's cruel and heartless to say this, but it is a reality and an even more pronounced reality with female actresses. This is even more evident if they are interested in a franchise which almost guarantees a 2 - 3 picture deal if the first is successful. Remember, the ideal choice of Connelly will already be approximately 35 or 36 by the time the filming starts. Add the time needed to make a sequel or sequels, and you're looking at a Wonder Woman who is near 40. Monica Bellucci is already 40, so that would be even older yet. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. A few years ago, I would have chosen these 2 more than likely, but in today's world, it's less likely or probable that Whedon will go this route.

Hunter Rider
12-25-2004, 09:10 AM
well i think they should cast who they think is right for the part regardless of age,whether it's belluci or not,if they go young my vote is morena baccarin

pimpernel
12-25-2004, 09:22 AM
As beautiful as Bellucci is (And she is beautiful), I really don't see WB going with a choice her age. I'm not so sure about Connelly and for the same reasons. This is not to say I wouldn't mind seeing either as WW, although there is nothing I have seen Bellucci do which which leads me to believe she has the athleticism for the part. However, if DC/WB are going to go the younger route as has been evidenced with Superman, than I think they could probably find an ideal candidate in Tsianina Joelson. Granted, she is 29 years old, but still a little younger than the aforementioned Jennifer Connelly or Monica Bellucci.

Age will be a factor. It's cruel and heartless to say this, but it is a reality and an even more pronounced reality with female actresses. This is even more evident if they are interested in a franchise which almost guarantees a 2 - 3 picture deal if the first is successful. Remember, the ideal choice of Connelly will already be approximately 35 or 36 by the time the filming starts. Add the time needed to make a sequel or sequels, and you're looking at a Wonder Woman who is near 40. Monica Bellucci is already 40, so that would be even older yet. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. A few years ago, I would have chosen these 2 more than likely, but in today's world, it's less likely or probable that Whedon will go this route.

Monica Bellucci is NOT 40. IMDB is wrong. It has been said lots of times by various people here that her actual site gives her age as 36. 36 is also the age cited in magazine articles and such. Besides which, the point is she doesn't LOOK too old for the part regardless of her actual age. Hollywood CONSISTENTLY casts actresses as characters younger than their actual age. She could easily bang out a trilogy before she hits 40, as could Connelly.

See my post in the other thread.

As for Bellucci's athleticism... unfortunately her action roles are all in foreign movies, but if you check out a few of those you will see she is up to the part. And actresses are trained pretty rigorously before this kinda role anyways. If you saw Carrie-Ann Moss pre-Matrix for instance you wouldn't have thought she could be an action heroine.

Hunter Rider
12-25-2004, 09:24 AM
excellent points pimpernell,i also have read belluci's age as 36

dpm07
12-25-2004, 10:28 AM
Monica Bellucci is NOT 40. IMDB is wrong. It has been said lots of times by various people here that her actual site gives her age as 36. 36 is also the age cited in magazine articles and such. Besides which, the point is she doesn't LOOK too old for the part regardless of her actual age. Hollywood CONSISTENTLY casts actresses as characters younger than their actual age. She could easily bang out a trilogy before she hits 40, as could Connelly.

See my post in the other thread.

As for Bellucci's athleticism... unfortunately her action roles are all in foreign movies, but if you check out a few of those you will see she is up to the part. And actresses are trained pretty rigorously before this kinda role anyways. If you saw Carrie-Ann Moss pre-Matrix for instance you wouldn't have thought she could be an action heroine.
Ok, I'll take your word for it regarding her age. I'm a little skeptical, as it's not unlike a lot of actresses to age backwards. Sandra Bullock did that for a long time. However, if you say she's 36, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Same with her athletic ability. The only thing I have ever heard is that she doesn't like physical fitness as she hates to sweat. I did read that a while back in an interview somewhere. As for putting out a trilogy before she's 40, yes she COULD. However, the mechanics of Hollywood generally don't follow this plan. Films get tied up, and take forever to be made. It is possible, but too often it doesn't work that way. Even if she is 36, that's still a little older than someone in their 20's. I guess I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. Believe me, if she got the part, I wouldn't complain that's for sure. I'm just trying to be realistic at the way Hollywood generally approaches action films and female stars in that area.

Hunter Rider
12-25-2004, 01:16 PM
my picks

1.
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/3922/monicabelluci21di.jpg

2.
http://img156.exs.cx/img156/2972/carrieannemoss3pz.jpg


3.
http://img147.exs.cx/img147/1362/wire29ea.jpg

4.

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/2172/besttjpic2rx.jpg

5.

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/1223/jenniferconnelly57bb.jpg

6.

http://img154.exs.cx/img154/4056/roselyn5tx.jpg

The Techno Bat
12-26-2004, 12:43 AM
http://www.visimag.com/culttimes/images/c75_ootb_pic.jpg

LOOK at her! She's already a goddess with a warrior's body! If she spends another week in the gym before filming, she'll BE Wonder Woman!

Cast Lucy Lawless for Big Barda if they ever use the Justice League or Mr. Mircle in the movies......

SolidRoar
12-26-2004, 01:38 AM
Lucy Lawless looks the part, but she's too old as well. Almost 37 now.

Lucid
12-26-2004, 07:02 AM
Tsianina Joelson

she can look as tough as this:
http://hedda.television-series.com/varia.jpg

and as beautiful as this:
http://www.celebstation.org/actresses/tsianina_joelson/Tsianina_Joelson_03.jpg



She's the best choice I've seen so far.

http://ajputnam.com/xena/pasadena2001/tjp-23a.jpg
http://ajputnam.com/xena/pasadena2001/tjp-21a.jpg
http://www.aditl.com/pupstuff/pasaxena01/tsianina/tsianina8-28.jpg

Be still my heart.

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 07:30 AM
Shame she can't act for toffee.

SolidRoar
12-26-2004, 09:42 AM
She still deserves a chance to audition, Pimpernel. :p Maybe she honed her skills since the last time anyone had seen her act.

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 09:55 AM
She still deserves a chance to audition, Pimpernel. :p Maybe she honed her skills since that last time anyone had seen her act.

Oh i totally agree with that... i just don't agree with everyone banging on about her like she is the second coming when a) most of them haev never even seen her act, and b) i have seen her act and she aint that good.

SolidRoar
12-26-2004, 10:13 AM
LOL - I agree with you. If she proved to be wrong for the part, then they should find someone else.

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 11:21 AM
Its a big building with patients - but thats not important right now.

Antonello Blueberry
12-26-2004, 11:45 AM
I have to throw again this name in the hat, because to me, she is the only known actress who has the right age, height and look.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Antoblueberry/LivTyler.jpg

Hunter Rider
12-26-2004, 11:48 AM
i can only see an x

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 12:01 PM
Ahhh Liv. So lovely. Doesn't she seem a bit clumsy to you tho? She seems quite tomboy-ish... despite the boobies. :p

terry78
12-26-2004, 01:00 PM
See, Liv just looks too cute to be dangerous, man. I'm sorry, but those eyes and those dimples just do not do it.

Hunter Rider
12-26-2004, 01:01 PM
I have to throw again this name in the hat, because to me, she is the only known actress who has the right age, height and look.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Antoblueberry/LivTyler.jpg
Now i see,Very Beautiful but not right IMO as WW

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 01:06 PM
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. The great Oz has spoken.

Hunter Rider
12-26-2004, 01:07 PM
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. The great Oz has spoken.
are you okay today Pimpernel ?:p

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 01:15 PM
are you okay today Pimpernel ?:p

Just watching TV as i write away. :p I'm in a rare good mood. :up:

The Techno Bat
12-26-2004, 02:54 PM
http://www.european-xenaverse.com/page/images/infos/news/20021070108.jpg

I am sold on her playing the part, as each day goes by and the more and more I think about it, she is better than all the other suggestions.

ultimatefan
12-26-2004, 03:14 PM
Oh i totally agree with that... i just don't agree with everyone banging on about her like she is the second coming when a) most of them haev never even seen her act, and b) i have seen her act and she aint that good.
Yeah, people see a picture of an actress that makes her look kinda like the character and, without ever seeing her work, conclude that she´s perfect...

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 03:40 PM
http://www.european-xenaverse.com/page/images/infos/news/20021070108.jpg

I am sold on her playing the part, as each day goes by and the more and more I think about it, she is better than all the other suggestions.

i refer you to ultimatefan's last post. :rolleyes:

The Sage
12-26-2004, 04:00 PM
MONICA....

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre15.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre4.jpg

The Sage
12-26-2004, 04:02 PM
http://www.celebritywonder.com/mp/2004_She_Hate_Me/2004_she_hate_me_0011.jpg

http://www.celebritywonder.com/mp/2004_She_Hate_Me/2004_she_hate_me_006.jpg

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 04:12 PM
Working on a Bellucci manip for ya Sage. ;)

The Sage
12-26-2004, 04:13 PM
Too old, my ass...

http://www.aclasscelebs.com/monicab/images/DS003-242-MonicaBellucci-FHM-03.jpg

Elegance, fit for a princess...
http://www.aclasscelebs.com/monicab/images/Bellucci54.jpg

IT is Batgirl
12-26-2004, 04:17 PM
I guess you guys can judge Tsianina's acting when Xena season 6 comes out on dvd soon.

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 04:21 PM
I've seen her Batgirl. Seen her in Xena and a couple of films. She is competent but not very great. Like i said i'm not dead against her but i AM dead against everyone hailing based purely on the evidence around so far. She needs a meatier role or something before people can even begin to say if she is any good or not.

The Sage
12-26-2004, 05:09 PM
Working on a Bellucci manip for ya Sage. ;)

Thank you my friend. :D

ultimatefan
12-26-2004, 05:14 PM
I've seen her Batgirl. Seen her in Xena and a couple of films. She is competent but not very great. Like i said i'm not dead against her but i AM dead against everyone hailing based purely on the evidence around so far. She needs a meatier role or something before people can even begin to say if she is any good or not.
Exactly. Fanboys are sometimes the most shallow casting directors in the world, some of them are the first to sacrifice talent in the name of something purely visual. If they had seen Belucci or Connelly making a bad girl face and wearing a warrior Amazon-like suit, they´d be all over them by now.

SolidRoar
12-26-2004, 05:22 PM
I think you're being too harsh. :p We're merely suggesting that they let her audition for the role. None of us is a casting director, so all we can do is suggest. I think both Connelly and Bellucci are two of the hottest that Hollywood can offer, but I wouldn't like to see them in the starring role if they didn't prove to be good for the part in the tests. What you said goes both ways, you know. ;)

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 06:02 PM
I think you're being too harsh. :p We're merely suggesting that they let her audition for the role. None of us is a casting director, so all we can do is suggest. I think both Connelly and Bellucci are two of the hottest that Hollywood can offer, but I wouldn't like to see them in the starring role if they didn't prove to be good for the part in the tests. What you said goes both ways, you know. ;)

Me? I have no problem with her auditioning. If she auditions and gets it then clearly she must be good for it. All i'm saying is that until then you can hardly say she is "perfect" or that she "blows away the competition" based solely on a couple of pictures and a handful of episodes of Xena. She is gonna have to do better than that and then some to be beat Connelly and Bellucci IMO.

pimpernel
12-26-2004, 08:25 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/monwond.jpg

Hunter Rider
12-26-2004, 08:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/monwond.jpg
excellent pimpernel,there's our wonder woman:up:

The Sage
12-26-2004, 08:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/monwond.jpg

That is definitely Wonder Woman.

Excellent. I knew she was right for it. I knew I wasn't disillusioned. :p:D

Chris Wallace
12-26-2004, 11:50 PM
Didn't Sarah state that she wasn't interested just a little while ago?
Yup. And both are too short, among other things.

Lone
12-27-2004, 12:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/WWCover15.jpg

HOLY *****!! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

I must be seeing things 'cause WW looks like Belluci in that pic. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

Batman's cowl looks Begins-ish to me too.. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif

Spike_x1
12-27-2004, 01:00 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/jadeda/shh/ww5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/jadeda/shh/WW2.jpg

Manips by Devilgirl.

Scruff
12-27-2004, 02:45 AM
I've seen a really great manip of Catherine Bell of JAG as WW. She and Connelly are my top two choices. Both are in their mid-thirties, which is the age that the main heroes are portayed in the comics. But, sadly, WB feels that is too old and wants to cast actors in their late 20's.

Monica Belluci does not speak flawless English which should be a prerequisite for WW, not to mention she just doesn't look like WW.

Tsianina Joelson is about 5 or 6 inches too short to play WW, but otherwise would look great inthe role. (I coudln't find her exact height after an extensive search, and am basing this statement by comparing her to Renee O'Conner and Lucy Lawless.)

While Cahterine Z Jones is very beautiful, I seriously can't see her in the role. Bridget Moynahan is one of the few who is the perfect height, but I'm not sure she could pull it off either. (I have serious doubts about Bale and even more about Routh, but that's another story.)

Themyscera (not Paradise Island) is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, in the Bermuda Triangle. While they make numerous references to the Greek Pantheon, the Amazons are under no obligation to be associated with Greece or the Mediterranean in a movie. The name Diana Prince isn't used any longer in the comics, just Diana. Steve Trevor is ancient history and much much older than Diana. To include those elements in a movie would be like adding "Zap" "Bam" in the next Batman film.

The rumors of SMG and CC connected to WW was shot down back in February. It makes no sense for that to come back up regardless of Joss Whedon. Morena Baccarin? Wonder woman is not a short Hispanic

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 06:36 AM
well i like Bell but i think you'll find you are in the minority of fans who don't think monica is a great choice for wonder woman,I just can't see the nitpicky need for the perfect english thing and she has the physical resemblence IMO

as for your comments about Bale.....they cast a man of 30 because BB is based around the year 1 concept

pimpernel
12-27-2004, 06:47 AM
Themyscera (not Paradise Island) is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, in the Bermuda Triangle. While they make numerous references to the Greek Pantheon, the Amazons are under no obligation to be associated with Greece or the Mediterranean in a movie. The name Diana Prince isn't used any longer in the comics, just Diana. Steve Trevor is ancient history and much much older than Diana. To include those elements in a movie would be like adding "Zap" "Bam" in the next Batman film.

See this is a sticking point with me. The late 80s Perez reboot of the character is the source of pretty much everything that is wrong with the character currently. Its his fault WW is seen as shiet.

Back in the day WW had a fairly succinct oigin story. It wasn't the most sophisticated but it was no more convoluted than Superman's and it worked. Now she has this bloody stupid origin full of extraneous bits and pieces that serve no real purpose. Why the cavewoman thing? Why have Diana Trevor crash on the island? Whay have two tribes? If you were to tell the current origin you would need a whole seperate movie to do so.

She had a secret identity. Now instead she is a damn celebrity... and "ambassador" for peace that speaks at the UN and goes on talk shows and stuff. Thats crap. Superheros should NOT be doing that stuff. Even Superman only does those things very occassionally.

She also had her own fictional city a la Gotham or Metropolis. Now she has... Boston. Seriously... no offence to Boston but i hardly wanna see the most powerful female in the world kicking ass there... i want somewhere more awe-inspiring.

Finally she had Steve. WTF was Perez thinking when he took WWs love interest out of the equation? Superman + Lois Lane... Batman + Catwoman... WW + ? Bloody moron.

Basically what i'm saying is that most of the iconic heroes (particularly DC ones) follow a template... secret identity, city, love interest. Perez scrapped all those and replace them with a bunch of quasi-new-age crap about love and peace and teaching the world to sing. Bollocks.
Including the old elements and cutting out 90% of the pointless clutter that Perez saddled the character with will NOT be like taking the franchise back to the "zap and pow days" of the Adam West Batman show... it will be like restoring something to the way it SHOULD be... the way it WORKS. WW needs to be taken back to how she was concieved in both movies AND the comics. If they did that BUT combined that with the sort of sophisticated storytelling you see in modern comics then WW would start to OWN. Personally i'd give the job to Mike Mignola. He has proven he can tell stories in a very subtle and minimal way. He is awesome with action and suspense. He is the KING of mythology in comics... under him WW would be handling the linda greek myth villains she SHOULD be going up against instead of third-rate Catwoman rip-offs like Cheetah. Mignola writing teamed with Adam Hughes on visuals would make WW something to REALLY look out for.

pimpernel
12-27-2004, 06:50 AM
Oh and i forgot to say:

The Bermuda Triangle thing is crap. Firstly it has been conclusively proven that there IS no BT, so you can't use it anymore. Secondly the AMazons came to Themyscera/Paradise Island FROM the mediterranean, so they ARE under an obligation to be associated with the mediterranean cos thats where they are from.

And the Island IS called Paradise Island. Its only the capital city that is called Themyscera.

ultimatefan
12-27-2004, 07:08 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/monwond.jpg
Now HERE´s what we been talking about. If WW was Xena, maybe Joelson would be perfect. But she isn´t. She´s fierce but there´s an innocence, a vulnerability to her, that´s the extra appeal that Con brings to it.

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 07:16 AM
Now HERE´s what we been talking about. If WW was Xena, maybe Joelson would be perfect. But she isn´t. She´s fierce but there´s an innocence, a vulnerability to her, that´s the extra appeal that Con brings to it.
that manip is belluci not connelly:p ;)

ultimatefan
12-27-2004, 07:20 AM
that manip is belluci not connelly:p ;)
Sorry, I was a little hangover... ;) But still, we can say both of them have this quality then. I have yet to see it in Joelson.

SolidRoar
12-27-2004, 08:17 AM
Sorry, I was a little hangover... ;) But still, we can say both of them have this quality then. I have yet to see it in Joelson.Maybe because there aren't many pics of her? She is an unknown, you know! ;)

Have you seen the pics that Darko listed of her? She looked different in each pic, so I think she can show whatever you want. :p

But I'm still not 100% of ANY candidate. They should test them all and see who fits.

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 08:20 AM
Maybe because there aren't many pics of her? She is an unknown, you know! ;)

Have you seen the pics that Darko listed of her? She looked different in each pic, so I think she can show whatever you want. :p

But I'm still not 100% of ANY candidate. They should test them all and see who fits.
I'd be happy to "test" them all:D ;)

SolidRoar
12-27-2004, 08:28 AM
I'd be happy to "test" them all:D ;)LOL - And to think I was going to use the term "try them out"! :D;)

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 08:43 AM
LOL - And to think I was going to use the term "try them out"! :D;)
well i definately feel a thorough "try out" is required:D ;)

Antonello Blueberry
12-27-2004, 01:04 PM
Now she has this bloody stupid origin full of extraneous bits and pieces that serve no real purpose. Why the cavewoman thing? Why have Diana Trevor crash on the island? Whay have two tribes? If you were to tell the current origin you would need a whole seperate movie to do so.

She had a secret identity. Now instead she is a damn celebrity... and "ambassador" for peace that speaks at the UN and goes on talk shows and stuff. Thats crap. Superheros should NOT be doing that stuff. Even Superman only does those things very occassionally.

She also had her own fictional city a la Gotham or Metropolis. Now she has... Boston. Seriously... no offence to Boston but i hardly wanna see the most powerful female in the world kicking ass there... i want somewhere more awe-inspiring.

Finally she had Steve. WTF was Perez thinking when he took WWs love interest out of the equation? Superman + Lois Lane... Batman + Catwoman... WW + ? Bloody moron.


The cavewoman thing was done to explain why Hyppolita was the only amazon with the desire for a baby.
Diana Trevor crashed on the island to explain the otherwise unexplainable American Flag touches in WW's costume.
Diana has always been an ambassador of peace in the world of men, now she's really officially an ambassador.
And Perez even gave Diana her "Lois lane" in Ed Indelicato, ht rugged policeman.

pimpernel
12-27-2004, 02:42 PM
The cavewoman thing was done to explain why Hyppolita was the only amazon with the desire for a baby.
Diana Trevor crashed on the island to explain the otherwise unexplainable American Flag touches in WW's costume.
Diana has always been an ambassador of peace in the world of men, now she's really officially an ambassador.
And Perez even gave Diana her "Lois lane" in Ed Indelicato, ht rugged policeman.

I know why Perez did the things he did, but they are still crap. Its explaining for the sake of it and it makes the origin far too long and unwieldy.
Why is she the only one that wants a child? Maybe she isn't... maybe they all want children but she was the only one that got one. Maybe Hippolyta was pregnant when she came to Themyscera but the child didn't come to term cos the amazons don't age since they arrived. Perez could have come up with a simpler explanation... or simply not explained it at all.

Diana Trevor is another example of explaining things to death. WW could just adopt the colours when she moves to the states. Or it cold be a coincidence. Whatever... its just crap that Perez invented all this in-depth stuff to explain throwaway things.

Fair enough about her being an ambassador... but she shouldn't be doing regular ambassador type stuff like talk-shows or speeches all the time and she SHOULD keep her secret identity. Having WW in the limelight the whole time ruins her mystique.

Ed Indelicato is only one in a string of men WW has had a thing with. The fact is since Perez sidelined Steve Trevor there hasn't been a love interest along the lines of Lois or Catwoman. They come and go.

Head>On<Collider
12-27-2004, 02:59 PM
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Aethea
12-27-2004, 03:04 PM
Now HERE´s what we been talking about. If WW was Xena, maybe Joelson would be perfect. But she isn´t. She´s fierce but there´s an innocence, a vulnerability to her, that´s the extra appeal that Con brings to it.


That is nice. Monica Belluci, right? She is Wonder Woman, but the age factor. Maybe Wonder Woman in WW2! and her daughter Diana in modern day. That would work.

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 03:04 PM
^^^^^^^LMAO:p

Aethea
12-27-2004, 03:05 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/monwond.jpg

This IS Wonder Woman. This is our Amazon, broken hearted princess. Sigh

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 03:14 PM
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/8260/06-batty.jpg----

The Sage
12-27-2004, 03:26 PM
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http://www.aclasscelebs.com/monicab/images/DS003-242-MonicaBellucci-FHM-03.jpg

joelson who? :p

pimpernel
12-27-2004, 03:29 PM
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/8260/06-batty.jpg----

Nooooooooooo not Norah Batty! :eek:

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 03:31 PM
Nooooooooooo not Norah Batty! :eek:
as an older ww telling the story in flashback to the days when she looked like monica:D

Darko
12-27-2004, 07:16 PM
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You tell em!!!!!!:mad::up: TSIANINA JOELSON DAMMIT!!!!!!

The Sage
12-27-2004, 07:19 PM
You tell em!!!!!!:mad::up: TSIANINA JOELSON DAMMIT!!!!!!
http://www.aclasscelebs.com/monicab/images/DS003-242-MonicaBellucci-FHM-03.jpg

Joelson who? :p

Darko
12-27-2004, 07:23 PM
http://www.aclasscelebs.com/monicab/images/DS003-242-MonicaBellucci-FHM-03.jpg

Joelson who? :p

connelly who??......:p

Tsianina Joelson dammit

The Sage
12-27-2004, 07:37 PM
connelly who??......:p

Tsianina Joelson dammit

That's not Connelly.:p

Bellucci or Connelly dammit!

SolidRoar
12-27-2004, 07:45 PM
I know why Perez did the things he did, but they are still crap. Its explaining for the sake of it and it makes the origin far too long and unwieldy.
Why is she the only one that wants a child? Maybe she isn't... maybe they all want children but she was the only one that got one. Maybe Hippolyta was pregnant when she came to Themyscera but the child didn't come to term cos the amazons don't age since they arrived. Perez could have come up with a simpler explanation... or simply not explained it at all.

Diana Trevor is another example of explaining things to death. WW could just adopt the colours when she moves to the states. Or it cold be a coincidence. Whatever... its just crap that Perez invented all this in-depth stuff to explain throwaway things.

Fair enough about her being an ambassador... but she shouldn't be doing regular ambassador type stuff like talk-shows or speeches all the time and she SHOULD keep her secret identity. Having WW in the limelight the whole time ruins her mystique.

Ed Indelicato is only one in a string of men WW has had a thing with. The fact is since Perez sidelined Steve Trevor there hasn't been a love interest along the lines of Lois or Catwoman. They come and go.You know? It's really a matter of preference. Some people like things simple as yourself. I'm one of those who like things explained. The more detailed the explanation is, the more sense it makes to me. :p

Darko
12-27-2004, 07:45 PM
That's not Connelly.:p

Bellucci or Connelly dammit!

I can't see the picture, so I assumed it was Connelly.......:o Anyways......

Bellucci who??.....

The Sage
12-27-2004, 07:53 PM
I can't see the picture, so I assumed it was Connelly.......:o Anyways......

Bellucci who??.....
You can't see this? :p

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/6931/bellucci3hq.jpg

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 07:54 PM
You can't see this? :p

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/6931/bellucci3hq.jpg
:D :D :up: :up: :up:

The Sage
12-27-2004, 07:57 PM
Just in case Darko missed this: ;)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre8.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre3.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre10.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_matrix__reloaded/monica_bellucci/matrixpre14.jpg

Hunter Rider
12-27-2004, 07:59 PM
Just in case Darko missed this: ;)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre8.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre3.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre10.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_matrix__reloaded/monica_bellucci/matrixpre14.jpg
you can never get to much monica nice work sage:up:

terry78
12-27-2004, 08:20 PM
you can never get to much monica nice work sage:up:
She looks like she has quite a few tricks up her sleeve to show some innocent young men.;)

Darko
12-27-2004, 11:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/dangerousprey6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjcontenderpremiere.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tsianinapas.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjconv8.jpg

I will put as much faith in her as WONDER WOMAN as I have in Brandon Routh for SUPERMAN. :o

Tsianina Joelson DAMMIT!!!

Lucid
12-28-2004, 12:15 AM
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funny, that's just what i was thinking. i was repeating her name in my head over and over.

Lucid
12-28-2004, 02:32 AM
Tsianina Joelson DAMMIT!!!

how do you pronouce her name?

IT is Batgirl
12-28-2004, 04:37 AM
how do you pronouce her name?

"Chaneena"

Can't wait for Xena Season 6 to come out on dvd.

LexLuthor
12-28-2004, 04:48 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/dangerousprey6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjcontenderpremiere.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tsianinapas.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/toheliconandback7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/toheliconandback2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjconv8.jpg

I will put as much faith in her as WONDER WOMAN as I have in Brandon Routh for SUPERMAN. :o

Tsianina Joelson DAMMIT!!!

Now I remember her. She has my vote if she's up for it.

dpm07
12-28-2004, 06:36 AM
TJ defnitely has the youth to pull off WW, and the athleticism as seen in Bring it On, and in Xena. Does she have the talent? Hard to say, she must have some talent or she wouldn't be getting roles here and there. I think if Brandon Routh can get a chance to play Superman, then TJ should get an opportunity to do WW.

The issue with WW, is that you have IMO three people who have the look and athleticism Connelly, Bellucci, and TJ. 2 are great actresses, one is an unknown factor. All 3 are stone cold hot, but 2 have age as a factor working against them in the long run. From WB's standpoint, who do you logically want to develop a franchise around over a potential 2-3 picture deal? That's what is going to be the prevailing question.

ultimatefan
12-28-2004, 06:56 AM
Okay, you Joelson freaks, just tell me two things:

- Have you actually seen her act before going all crazy for her?

- Do you have any good reason besides "she looks good in an amazon suit"?

SolidRoar
12-28-2004, 08:34 AM
Okay, you Joelson freaks, just tell me two things:

- Have you actually seen her act before going all crazy for her?

- Do you have any good reason besides "she looks good in an amazon suit"?At least Joelson freaks saw more of her than Routh freaks saw of him - LOL.

No one said she MUST be WW. They're saying "give her a goddamn CHANCE!" :D

Metamorpho1977
12-28-2004, 08:41 AM
Monica Belluci really is a "Wonderful Woman"

http://www.radioteam.ro/photo_album/maxim/monica_belluci/Monica_11-vi.jpg

http://www.radioteam.ro/photo_album/maxim/monica_belluci/Monica_6-vi.jpg
http://prod.bsis.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/72/72185/folders/124348/861907104.jpeg

pimpernel
12-28-2004, 11:07 AM
At least Joelson freaks saw more of her than Routh freaks saw of him - LOL.

No one said she MUST be WW. They're saying "give her a goddamn CHANCE!" :D

Nah see it would be cool if they were saying that... hell even i say that... but what most of them are actually saying is she MUST be WW cos nobody is better... and that i GOTTA take issue with. :p

pimpernel
12-28-2004, 11:08 AM
http://www.radioteam.ro/photo_album/maxim/monica_belluci/Monica_6-vi.jpg

Great oogly moogly! :p :up:

SolidRoar
12-28-2004, 11:20 AM
Nah see it would be cool if they were saying that... hell even i say that... but what most of them are actually saying is she MUST be WW cos nobody is better... and that i GOTTA take issue with. :pWell, you know that's not gonna happen anyway - without an audition at least. ;)

But you really need to think of someone under 30, man. You know that's what the WB are looking for. If not, then it should be a well known actress. (Bellucci/Connelly all the way, baby!)

ultimatefan
12-28-2004, 11:32 AM
At least Joelson freaks saw more of her than Routh freaks saw of him - LOL.

No one said she MUST be WW. They're saying "give her a goddamn CHANCE!" :D
At least Routh has been picked by a good director, which is more than having a small role in a cheesy TV show.

And yeah, some of them are saying she MUST be WW... and they didn´t audition her that I know... :rolleyes:

SolidRoar
12-28-2004, 01:32 PM
At least Routh has been picked by a good director, which is more than having a small role in a cheesy TV show.

And yeah, some of them are saying she MUST be WW... and they didn´t audition her that I know... :rolleyes:You do know that Singer picked Routh after an audition, right, Ultimatefan? :rolleyes:

Hunter Rider
12-28-2004, 03:07 PM
Monica Belluci really is a "Wonderful Woman"

http://www.radioteam.ro/photo_album/maxim/monica_belluci/Monica_11-vi.jpg

http://www.radioteam.ro/photo_album/maxim/monica_belluci/Monica_6-vi.jpg
http://prod.bsis.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/72/72185/folders/124348/861907104.jpeg
Absolutely Stunning:up: :up:

Head>On<Collider
12-28-2004, 03:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/dangerousprey6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjcontenderpremiere.jpg
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TSIANINA. End of story.

Hunter Rider
12-28-2004, 03:30 PM
http://www.radioteam.ro/photo_album/maxim/monica_belluci/Monica_11-vi.jpg

Belluci All The way ;)

pimpernel
12-28-2004, 03:32 PM
Y'know whats really funny? When i first came here a while back EVERYONE was going on and on about Megan Gale the same way they are with Joelson right now. In a few weeks i guarantee nobody will remember Joelson was ever suggested.

Head>On<Collider
12-28-2004, 03:34 PM
Y'know whats really funny? When i first came here a while back EVERYONE was going on and on about Megan Gale the same way they are with Joelson right now. In a few weeks i guarantee nobody will remember Joelson was ever suggested.well, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we!

The Sage
12-28-2004, 03:46 PM
TSIANINA. End of story.

Not. But we'll keep her on the listings to play Donna Troy. :p

Now...where was I? Oh yes..

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre8.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre4.jpg
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http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/_group_photos/bruce_willis2.jpg
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/6931/bellucci3hq.jpg

Monica Bellucci...nuff said. End of Story

Hunter Rider
12-28-2004, 03:47 PM
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/6931/bellucci3hq.jpg

no one can tell me this isn't a godess

pimpernel
12-28-2004, 03:56 PM
Not. But we'll keep her on the listings to play Donna Troy. :p

Now...where was I? Oh yes..

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre8.jpg


Man thats the exact head i'm using my new manip. There isn't a single bad photo from that whole premiere. :D

Hunter Rider
12-28-2004, 03:57 PM
Man thats the exact head i'm using my new manip. There isn't a single bad photo from that whole premiere. :D
the words "Monica" and "Head" in one sentence made me smile;)

ultimatefan
12-28-2004, 04:10 PM
You do know that Singer picked Routh after an audition, right, Ultimatefan? :rolleyes:
And when did I say she shouldn´t audition? What I´m criticizing is people who looked at a picture of her in the right suit and decided there´s nobody else for the role. :rolleyes:

The Sage
12-28-2004, 04:22 PM
the words "Monica" and "Head" in one sentence made me smile;)

:D

She does have some sexy lips doesn't she?;)

The Sage
12-28-2004, 04:24 PM
Man thats the exact head i'm using my new manip. There isn't a single bad photo from that whole premiere. :D

You got that right. :D

SolidRoar
12-28-2004, 04:38 PM
And when did I say she shouldn´t audition? What I´m criticizing is people who looked at a picture of her in the right suit and decided there´s nobody else for the role. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gifWell, that's stupid. There's always someone else for the role. I thought you were generalising and meant me as one of them. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif

Hunter Rider
12-28-2004, 05:05 PM
:D

She does have some sexy lips doesn't she?;)
:Dand so many things she could do for me with them:cool:

pimpernel
12-28-2004, 05:27 PM
So anyways i have this so far...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lasso7.jpg

Not sure what i can put in her hand tho. Maybe a lasso or something?

The Sage
12-28-2004, 05:41 PM
Yeah that sounds good.

dpm07
12-28-2004, 05:53 PM
Those are some pretty good Monica pictures Sage and Pimpernel. I definitely wouldn't be upset if she did get the role. If WB/DC is smart, Monica is the ideal choice with Connelly as a second. If youth wins out, then TJ could be a viable candidate.

Darko
12-28-2004, 06:15 PM
I hope Tsianina Joelson at least auditions for the part. I think that her chances of snagging the role is slimmer than Connelly or Bellucci because she just too unknown and hopefully she didn't slip passed WB's radar just yet. My choice still remains the same, and hopefully she will get the word that she is being considered a candidate for the role. I think we DID overreact with Tsianina, so I will try to take it one step at a time and just say Tsianina should attempt to get the role.

Head>On<Collider
12-28-2004, 06:16 PM
someone needs to produce a TJ as WW photo manip.

Donnie Darko
12-28-2004, 08:34 PM
ok, I have a decent understanding of WW's origins and whatnot, but although many people (especially Monica supporters) use the whole ethnic/Greek look as a validation for their casting, every time I've ever seen WW in a comic book, she just looks like a beautiful, stacked white chick with an athletic build.

terry78
12-28-2004, 09:34 PM
ok, I have a decent understanding of WW's origins and whatnot, but although many people (especially Monica supporters) use the whole ethnic/Greek look as a validation for their casting, every time I've ever seen WW in a comic book, she just looks like a beautiful, stacked white chick with an athletic build.
Black hair and blue eyes almost always mean your background is pretty ethnic as opposed to WASP-y, though.

Lucid
12-28-2004, 09:57 PM
to all Monica Bellucci supporters, I have a question.

Do you believe that WB considers Bellucci a serious candidate?

Putting myself in the place of a studio exec, I wouldn't consider her because she doesn't speak perfect english. She sounds Italian. That's a big problem. I don't think a studio will hire her, so what's the point of talking about her?

The Techno Bat
12-28-2004, 10:06 PM
Tsianina Joelson is Wonder Woman! ! ! Or atleast I hope....

The Sage
12-28-2004, 11:33 PM
to all Monica Bellucci supporters, I have a question.

Do you believe that WB considers Bellucci a serious candidate?

Putting myself in the place of a studio exec, I wouldn't consider her because she doesn't speak perfect english. She sounds Italian. That's a big problem. I don't think a studio will hire her, so what's the point of talking about her?

Because she can act, and she has the look. I do wonder if perfect English is necessary to play a woman who was born on a mythical island. ;)

Has anyone seen Tears of the Sun? How did she sound in the film?

pimpernel
12-29-2004, 04:34 AM
ok, I have a decent understanding of WW's origins and whatnot, but although many people (especially Monica supporters) use the whole ethnic/Greek look as a validation for their casting, every time I've ever seen WW in a comic book, she just looks like a beautiful, stacked white chick with an athletic build.

I agree that she is never drawn with any kind of ethnicity, which is why i think its stupid to say that whoever is cast MUST be greek. But seeing as technically the amazons are from the mediterranean it would be a nice touch if the actress was vaguely exotic looking... not necessary by any means, just nice. With Bellucci you would get that.

pimpernel
12-29-2004, 04:44 AM
to all Monica Bellucci supporters, I have a question.

Do you believe that WB considers Bellucci a serious candidate?

Putting myself in the place of a studio exec, I wouldn't consider her because she doesn't speak perfect english. She sounds Italian. That's a big problem. I don't think a studio will hire her, so what's the point of talking about her?

I honestly don't know but i sincerely hope so for a couple of reasons:

1) She is one of WWs two Bales. Something like 95% percent of fans want either her or Conelly, and many of those would be happy with either.

2) We will never know if Bale wa cast cos of his overwhelming fan support on the net... but it is tempting to think so. We also do know that fans on the net HAVE led to Ryan Reynolds very possibly becoming the new Flash. We also heard a rumour recently by someone connected with the GL project saying that WB is going after the internet fave for the role... Tom Cruise. With all this info i gotta think that if so many of us are preaching for Monica or Connelly then they have GOT to have a serious shot at the role. I understand some people might be concerned about age but i'mhoping WB will look at it the way i do: most of the fans want her... the film is for the fans... if the fans don't care about the age then neither do we. Hopefully.

Either way i'm not gonna let up with the Monica/Jen pushing until someone is cast officially, cos i see that stuff seems to have had had tangible results for other franchises.

dpm07
12-29-2004, 07:00 AM
Because she can act, and she has the look. I do wonder if perfect English is necessary to play a woman who was born on a mythical island. ;)

Has anyone seen Tears of the Sun? How did she sound in the film?

I've seen Tears of The Sun (Actually own it on DVD), as well as the Matrix films, and she definitely spoke English well enough. She is going to be in The Brothers Grimm with Heath Ledger and Matt Damon, and will undoubtedly speak English in that film. In Brotherhood of the Wolf, she did her own voice in English, so she didn't have a VA do the English dub of that part.

pimpernel
12-29-2004, 07:04 AM
I meant to say before about her english. Firstly, its fine. She has done lots of english language films and speaks perfect english. Second, yes she has an accent but in the case of WW that is actually very much to her benefit. It would bring some authenticity to the character.

Lucid
12-29-2004, 08:27 AM
I meant to say before about her english. Firstly, its fine. She has done lots of english language films and speaks perfect english. Second, yes she has an accent but in the case of WW that is actually very much to her benefit. It would bring some authenticity to the character.You sound pretty convincing and if fans don't mind, I guess I won't press the issue, but I think it would be weird to have a Wonder Woman with an Italian accent.

dpm07
12-29-2004, 10:37 AM
I meant to say before about her english. Firstly, its fine. She has done lots of english language films and speaks perfect english. Second, yes she has an accent but in the case of WW that is actually very much to her benefit. It would bring some authenticity to the character.
Agreed. To be honest, I don't think the general public will be able to differentiate between a Greek accent, and an Italian one. Unless you have studied linguistics or are of a Mediterranean descent, then the general public will probably not be able to differentiate. It's sad, but true. I'm not saying everyone is like that, but I think a majority of people are, so having a Latin Romantic-based language accent, versus a Greek modern day katharevusa language may not be noticeable to the general public.

Wonder Woman's dialect for the Greek would most likely be a form of Attic-Ionic, as this was the language of the Classical Hellenic Greek Period. If it is an earlier based Greek it would probably be a Linear B type with Phoenician elements.

ultimatefan
12-29-2004, 10:40 AM
Well, let´s take in consideration that she actually doesn´t even come from a real place to begin with, so why make a fuzz with her looks and accent? Cast the first stone who has visited Themyscira (not sure I spelled right)...

Hunter Rider
12-29-2004, 10:44 AM
I see a lot of Belluci and jc support but the poll doesn't reflect this:(

pimpernel
12-29-2004, 11:05 AM
The poll is skewed tho cos a lot of people are voting for Joelson based solely on the pics of her in the Amazon costume. Some dumbasses see one pic and are convinced so-and-so would be perfect. Sad but true. If we had a pic of Bellucci or Connelly in a similar costume with a scowl on their face then the vote would go way up for them. Thing is pollslike this are unreliable. As i said before EVERYONE was harping on about Megan Gale a few months back like she was god's gift, but now nobody every mentions her. It will be the same with Joeslon i a few weeks. The important thing to note is that next to joelson pretty much all the votes are split between bellucci and Connelly... and thats the way it was months ago and how it will be months from now. They are CONSISTENTLY right at the top of the polls, and thats what counts.

pimpernel
12-29-2004, 11:09 AM
BTW i'm not saying everyone who voted for Joelson is a dumbass. But a lot of people drop in here for a flying visit, see the one pic, and vote for her. Those are the dumbasses.

Sava
12-29-2004, 12:45 PM
Jennifer Connelly

The Sage
12-29-2004, 02:10 PM
The poll is skewed tho cos a lot of people are voting for Joelson based solely on the pics of her in the Amazon costume. Some dumbasses see one pic and are convinced so-and-so would be perfect. Sad but true. If we had a pic of Bellucci or Connelly in a similar costume with a scowl on their face then the vote would go way up for them. Thing is pollslike this are unreliable. As i said before EVERYONE was harping on about Megan Gale a few months back like she was god's gift, but now nobody every mentions her. It will be the same with Joeslon i a few weeks. The important thing to note is that next to joelson pretty much all the votes are split between bellucci and Connelly... and thats the way it was months ago and how it will be months from now. They are CONSISTENTLY right at the top of the polls, and thats what counts.

I know what you mean. It's like people wanting TW for the role of Superman just because they've seen him play a version of the character on Smallville. Nevermind the fact that there are others out there who can do the job as well. So she looks good in an Amazonian costume. Big deal. So does Melinda Clark, maybe she should be Wonder Woman. :o

dk
12-29-2004, 02:13 PM
Well, let´s take in consideration that she actually doesn´t even come from a real place to begin with, so why make a fuzz with her looks and accent?

It's more important that they get an actress who embodies the attitude and heart of Diana than one who looks exactly like her, or speaks with some kind of Greek/Mediterranean accent. In fact, I figure too much of an accent will be off-putting to American audiences. Sometimes Monica Bellucci's English is a little tough to understand, frankly - and that's in limited roles, where she speaks few lines. Imagine her trying to carry 90% of a film's dialog for a full 120 minutes. A lot of people will tune out, IMO. The giant rack pushed into her outfit will only mesmerize folks for so long.

I'd rule out any actress significantly over 30 for this part. Despite the label "Wonder Woman," Diana is young when her story begins, about 18. You also have to look at the possibility of 2-3 sequels, which would take their toll on an actress who's 35-40 going into the first picture. By the conclusion, you've got a 50 year-old Wonder Woman - not the best image for an immortal Amazon princess.

I'm currently leaning towards a buffed-up Liv Tyler for Diana. She's got a calm, peaceful presence that I think really embodies the character. But there's definitely a fire there she can tap into - Diana needs both qualities, IMO. Tyler's an immensely likable actress in general - I think casting a Diana who can easily win audience goodwill is a key. Liv can do a sexy, deep voice - appropriately commanding when it needs to be (see LOTR). She's a tall drink of water, Amazonian in proportions. She passes for all-American, but resembles Italian, Greek, etc. She could convincingly be any number of nationalitites. Last but not least, she's a recognized actor but not a star. Inexpensive, easier to sign to a 3-picture deal, big enough to front "Wonder Woman," which is going to draw a lot of its audience from name value alone. Still, Liv Tyler brings some marquee value to the role - more than a complete unknown, or even someone like Monica Bellucci (in America).

Aethea
12-29-2004, 02:53 PM
I just hope they do not get any airhed-type actresses like Jess Alba. That is just eye candy casting minus personality.

Darko
12-29-2004, 04:22 PM
BTW i'm not saying everyone who voted for Joelson is a dumbass. But a lot of people drop in here for a flying visit, see the one pic, and vote for her. Those are the dumbasses.

I know why I chose Tsianina Joelson.:mad::up:

She is a decent actress, with the right look down and most definitely the right physique. She is beautiful yet masculine, and I think that is a quality Wonder Woman should have. I quote a magazine article about her performances, one specifically referring to her and her acting abilities:

"Joelson is no stranger to the camera; she's been in independent and feature films in her home town of Los Angeles, and has hosted a "kind of a hip-hop, kick-boxing, workout show" on MTV But it was when she was cast as a guest actor in Xena that the excitement really hit home - literally."
She also worked with Warner Brothers before.

-"Her co-host on "The Daily Burn" was "Baywatch" star Michael Bergin. That led to pilots with Warner Brothers and Jan DeBant (the "Die Hard" films, "Hunt for Red October") and a nod from Rolling Stone magazine as "The Hottest Body in the World."

Needing an agent, she landed with Burbank's powerful Gold Mashak Liedtke, the talent and literary agency, no less.

In Universal's "Cheer Fever," she'll play a 17-year-old cheerleader, a part she figures to nail.

"I have to go to cheerleader camp for a month," she says.

When the Joelsons aren't making casting rounds or attending Hollywood premieres, they're usually working at the inn in Shady Cove. When she's in L.A., she stays with her aunt and uncle.

"It's been a great ride," her husband says.

"We've been lucky," she says. "It's a dream, an adventure."

I think she would have the same extreme dedication as Bale for his Batman role. IMO

pimpernel
12-29-2004, 04:44 PM
I know why I chose Tsianina Joelson.:mad::up:

She is a decent actress, with the right look down and most definitely the right physique. She is beautiful yet masculine, and I think that is a quality Wonder Woman should have. I quote a magazine article about her performances, one specifically referring to her and her acting abilities:


She also worked with Warner Brothers before.


I think she would have the same extreme dedication as Bale for his Batman role. IMO

Nothing in that post changes my mind about her even slightly cos I'VE SEEN HER ACT and she 's nothing to write home about. Her performances are one-note and don't have any depth. She is IMO about as good an actress as someone like Yasmine Bleeth. Her smile looks like a sneer. She just isn't anything special at all.

ironman1188
12-29-2004, 05:07 PM
Catherine Bell or Lucy Lawless would be my choices.

The Sage
12-29-2004, 05:12 PM
Nothing in that post changes my mind about her even slightly cos I'VE SEEN HER ACT and she 's nothing to write home about. Her performances are one-note and don't have any depth. She is IMO about as good an actress as someone like Yasmine Bleeth. Her smile looks like a sneer. She just isn't anything special at all.

Let them know pimpernel. :up:

The Techno Bat
12-29-2004, 06:09 PM
I just hope they do not get any airhed-type actresses like Jess Alba. That is just eye candy casting minus personality.

I think Another example of airhead-type actresses that shouldn't get the role based on her looks would definately be ANGELINA JOLIE....she is hot, I will give you that, and she might be a step above Jessica Alba in acting, but she would just be wrong for the part! So I agree with you on Jessica Alba!

I wonder if Jessica Alba would even think of doing Wonder Woman as she is playing Sue Storm in the Fantastic Four movie, and playing in Frank Miller's Sin City

The Techno Bat
12-29-2004, 06:15 PM
BTW i'm not saying everyone who voted for Joelson is a dumbass. But a lot of people drop in here for a flying visit, see the one pic, and vote for her. Those are the dumbasses.

Thank You for clearing that up. Because I am a supporter of Tsianina Joelson for Wonder Woman, and posted a picture of her in the amazon costume, along with a few others. I hope you don't consider me a Dumb Ass. But I do see what your saying, and it's a shame that people don't research or atleast check out all of the canadiates before voting.

And again out of all the woman tagged for this poll, the best person in my view is....Tsianina Joelson. Now alot of people are saying she can't act or is one dimensional, well that may be, but this could be her break out role. She could realize the importance of this role and put her all into it. She is beautiful, has a great body, is a proven actress, and looks the part!

Darko
12-29-2004, 06:20 PM
I think Another example of airhead-type actresses that shouldn't get the role based on her looks would definately be ANGELINA JOLIE....she is hot, I will give you that, and she might be a step above Jessica Alba in acting, but she would just be wrong for the part! So I agree with you on Jessica Alba!

I wonder if Jessica Alba would even think of doing Wonder Woman as she is playing Sue Storm in the Fantastic Four movie, and playing in Frank Miller's Sin City

Jessica alba would be the last person to portray Wonder Woman. That would be a complete miscast IMO. You need someone not as feminine as Alba, allittle more maculine. A decent actress ( someone who doesnt need an academy award to prove she can pull off the role... :o) with the look and attitude of a warrior, yet maternal and caring. Oh, and you need someone who doesnt have about a busy film schedule.:o

The Techno Bat
12-29-2004, 06:48 PM
Jessica alba would be the last person to portray Wonder Woman. That would be a complete miscast IMO. You need someone not as feminine as Alba, allittle more maculine. A decent actress ( someone who doesnt need an academy award to prove she can pull off the role... :o) with the look and attitude of a warrior, yet maternal and caring. Oh, and you need someone who doesnt have about a busy film schedule.:o

Alba would be a horrible choice as Wonder Woman....

Darko
12-29-2004, 06:54 PM
Alba would be a horrible choice as Wonder Woman....
Umm....Yes. I know. That's basically what I just said.

Lucid
12-30-2004, 01:01 AM
Jessica alba would be the last person to portray Wonder Woman. That would be a complete miscast IMO.

you're right. it would be like casting her as a white, blonde-haired mother-figure. that would never happen.

Red Mask
12-30-2004, 01:39 AM
Thank You for clearing that up. Because I am a supporter of Tsianina Joelson for Wonder Woman, and posted a picture of her in the amazon costume, along with a few others. I hope you don't consider me a Dumb Ass. But I do see what your saying, and it's a shame that people don't research or atleast check out all of the canadiates before voting.

And again out of all the woman tagged for this poll, the best person in my view is....Tsianina Joelson. Now alot of people are saying she can't act or is one dimensional, well that may be, but this could be her break out role. She could realize the importance of this role and put her all into it. She is beautiful, has a great body, is a proven actress, and looks the part!

You do have a right to your opinion. This is a poll after all. And many 'dumbasses' have suggested other women solely on their looks. I think Tsianina could pull off WW if she prepared for it.

The Techno Bat
12-30-2004, 08:54 AM
Umm....Yes. I know. That's basically what I just said.

I know I just wanted to reiterate(sp) that is all. And I was responding to somebody else's thread with the whole issue with Jessica Alba, I didn't bring her up at all to begin with. No biggie though :ghost:

SolidRoar
12-30-2004, 09:04 AM
you're right. it would be like casting her as a white, blonde-haired mother-figure. that would never happen.LOL - Just make sure you don't mention that in the FF forum. :p


Thank You for clearing that up. Because I am a supporter of Tsianina Joelson for Wonder Woman, and posted a picture of her in the amazon costume, along with a few others. I hope you don't consider me a Dumb Ass. But I do see what your saying, and it's a shame that people don't research or atleast check out all of the canadiates before voting.

And again out of all the woman tagged for this poll, the best person in my view is....Tsianina Joelson. Now alot of people are saying she can't act or is one dimensional, well that may be, but this could be her break out role. She could realize the importance of this role and put her all into it. She is beautiful, has a great body, is a proven actress, and looks the part!You speak the truth, man! ;)

Now all we have to do is get the WB's attention..

The Techno Bat
12-30-2004, 09:12 AM
You speak the truth, man! ;)

Now all we have to do is get the WB's attention..

Amen to that!

It's not Tsianina fault if she looks perfect for the part, and played an amazon in Xena, and there is already a picture of her in a amazon costume already, that should be a added bonus, so we can see what she would look like somewhat if she got the part of Wonder Woman.

Donnie Darko
12-30-2004, 01:22 PM
2) We will never know if Bale wa cast cos of his overwhelming fan support on the net... but it is tempting to think so. We also do know that fans on the net HAVE led to Ryan Reynolds very possibly becoming the new Flash. We also heard a rumour recently by someone connected with the GL project saying that WB is going after the internet fave for the role... Tom Cruise. With all this info i gotta think that if so many of us are preaching for Monica or Connelly then they have GOT to have a serious shot at the role. I understand some people might be concerned about age but i'mhoping WB will look at it the way i do: most of the fans want her... the film is for the fans... if the fans don't care about the age then neither do we. Hopefully.


Since when is Tom Cruise the internet fan choice for GL? Is the studio or media trying to feed us a choice and say it's what we really want? I'm not saying I'm particularly ANTI-Tom Cruise for the role, but he is by no means the overwhelming fanboy choice for the role like Bale for Batman.

Hunter Rider
12-30-2004, 01:29 PM
Since when is Tom Cruise the internet fan choice for GL? Is the studio or media trying to feed us a choice and say it's what we really want? I'm not saying I'm particularly ANTI-Tom Cruise for the role, but he is by no means the overwhelming fanboy choice for the role like Bale for Batman.
a poll for cruise yay or nay is needed

Donnie Darko
12-30-2004, 01:33 PM
true

ultimatefan
12-30-2004, 02:40 PM
Amen to that!

It's not Tsianina fault if she looks perfect for the part, and played an amazon in Xena, and there is already a picture of her in a amazon costume already, that should be a added bonus, so we can see what she would look like somewhat if she got the part of Wonder Woman.
None of this is her fault, but it´s silly and unfair that she gets all those votes from people who probably never saw her act and some great actresses don´t get it just because they never wore an amazon suit.

pimpernel
12-30-2004, 02:51 PM
Since when is Tom Cruise the internet fan choice for GL? Is the studio or media trying to feed us a choice and say it's what we really want? I'm not saying I'm particularly ANTI-Tom Cruise for the role, but he is by no means the overwhelming fanboy choice for the role like Bale for Batman.

Hey i'm just qouting the recent news thing... its not like i came up with it. IMO he would be crap. :p

pimpernel
12-30-2004, 02:54 PM
None of this is her fault, but it´s silly and unfair that she gets all those votes from people who probably never saw her act and some great actresses don´t get it just because they never wore an amazon suit.

Thats all i was saying. :up: And i'm even a wee bit bemused by the folks that HAVE seen her act to be honest cos some of them are still saying she is better than Connelly or Bellucci and i'm starting to wonder if we are watching the same actress. :p I'll agree she MAY pull some acting skills outta the bag when she goes to audition... but i don't think you can see any evidence of such skills based on her work to date.

IT is Batgirl
12-30-2004, 03:42 PM
Thats all i was saying. :up: And i'm even a wee bit bemused by the folks that HAVE seen her act to be honest cos some of them are still saying she is better than Connelly or Bellucci and i'm starting to wonder if we are watching the same actress. :p I'll agree she MAY pull some acting skills outta the bag when she goes to audition... but i don't think you can see any evidence of such skills based on her work to date.

How many eps have you seen with Tsianina as Varia?

ultimatefan
12-30-2004, 03:55 PM
Thats all i was saying. :up: And i'm even a wee bit bemused by the folks that HAVE seen her act to be honest cos some of them are still saying she is better than Connelly or Bellucci and i'm starting to wonder if we are watching the same actress. :p I'll agree she MAY pull some acting skills outta the bag when she goes to audition... but i don't think you can see any evidence of such skills based on her work to date.
Well, in all fairness. we also can´t say Xena is the best example for testing an actress´skills...

pimpernel
12-30-2004, 04:00 PM
How many eps have you seen with Tsianina as Varia?

Dunno exactly. About Five at the most. I also saw her in Bring It On and American Pie 2 and something else which i forget.

pimpernel
12-30-2004, 04:01 PM
Well, in all fairness. we also can´t say Xena is the best example for testing an actress´skills...

No but see thats what i'm saying tho... i'm saying that even those that have seen her act.. how can you say she is really good based purely on a handful of Xena eps and a few bit parts in cruddy teen movies?

IT is Batgirl
12-30-2004, 05:21 PM
Well, in all fairness. we also can´t say Xena is the best example for testing an actress´skills...

Unless they're the leads or supporting cast. Eveyone else you have to watch on a case-by-case basis. Lucy Lawless, if she were younger, would kill as Diana. She's got the serious side and the comedic side (her natural personality).

pimpernel
12-30-2004, 05:25 PM
Unless they're the leads or supporting cast. Eveyone else you have to watch on a case-by-case basis. Lucy Lawless, if she were younger, would kill as Diana. She's got the serious side and the comedic side (her natural personality).

She looks too butch tho. Just IMO.

IT is Batgirl
12-30-2004, 05:27 PM
She looks too butch tho. Just IMO.

Maybe in the first 2 seasons of Xena when she wasn't as skinny as she is now.

http://www.kossuth-saujhely.sulinet.hu/mkpic/xena/xena/scrolls/xena01.jpg
to
http://www.warriorprincess.com/Xenaphenalia/tradingcards/series2/s2_xcard46.jpg


Oh well.

pimpernel
12-30-2004, 05:31 PM
Maybe in the first 2 seasons of Xena when she wasn't as skinny as she is now.

http://www.kossuth-saujhely.sulinet.hu/mkpic/xena/xena/scrolls/xena01.jpg

I dunno i just think her face is too wide. It helps when she doesn't have the fringe tho.
As for Joelson Batgirl i hope you know i'm not dissing her or anything just for the sake of it. I'm not even dissing her really. I'm just teling people to be more cautious than they are instead of saying she is better than anyone else without really seeing her do anything to prove that. I'm just asking for the wait-and-see attitude that people have right now with Routh is all.
Don't wanna fall out with you Batgirl you're one fo the few people i like from back when SHH was still good. :p

IT is Batgirl
12-30-2004, 05:48 PM
I dunno i just think her face is too wide. It helps when she doesn't have the fringe tho.
As for Joelson Batgirl i hope you know i'm not dissing her or anything just for the sake of it. I'm not even dissing her really. I'm just teling people to be more cautious than they are instead of saying she is better than anyone else without really seeing her do anything to prove that. I'm just asking for the wait-and-see attitude that people have right now with Routh is all.
Don't wanna fall out with you Batgirl you're one fo the few people i like from back when SHH was still good. :p

No, I understand. When it comes to "Xena," I get really excited.

Tsianina wasn't SUPERB as Varia, but I don't think she was horrible either. Her character was written as impetuous and head-strong, which definitely showed in Joelson's performance. I'd like to see her at least audition for the role. If she gets it, great. I can say "I knew her when..." If not, no biggie. I'm sure Whedon will choose someone perfect for the role.

The Techno Bat
12-30-2004, 07:26 PM
Unless they're the leads or supporting cast. Eveyone else you have to watch on a case-by-case basis. Lucy Lawless, if she were younger, would kill as Diana. She's got the serious side and the comedic side (her natural personality).

I think, and I know I have said this before to others but Lucy Lawless would be the perfect choice if they ever needed a Big Barda for a Justice League movie or a Mr. Miracle Movie.

The Techno Bat
12-30-2004, 07:32 PM
I just want to jump in and say what has Jennifer Connely ever done besides play the damsel in distress? And the poor me type of roles? She hasn't done anything in the sense of action has she? But on the other end of the spectrum I realize that she is a wonderful actress, and has the right look, and if she was cast as Wonder Woman I wouldn't have a problem with it, I just feel as though Tsisiana is better suited for the role is all.

Darko
12-30-2004, 08:34 PM
I just want to jump in and say what has Jennifer Connely ever done besides play the damsel in distress? And the poor me type of roles? She hasn't done anything in the sense of action has she? But on the other end of the spectrum I realize that she is a wonderful actress, and has the right look, and if she was cast as Wonder Woman I wouldn't have a problem with it, I just feel as though Tsisiana is better suited for the role is all.

As Do I. Tsianina IMO is perfect. I seen enough pictures, read enough articles, seen a few of her movies, and basically researched enough to back up my choice.:o Tsianina for Wonder Woman.:up:

Fused
12-30-2004, 09:04 PM
Has anyone ever suggested Denise?

http://www.jemcorp.com/celebs/images/nwar/nwar155-richards_denise-04.jpg

Red Mask
12-30-2004, 10:25 PM
Denise looks very elvish. I'd like to see her in a fantasy movie playing and elven princess.

Donnie Darko
12-30-2004, 10:54 PM
Hey i'm just qouting the recent news thing... its not like i came up with it. IMO he would be crap. :p

sorry, I wasn't meaning to blame you. I read that news thing, too. And I'm really mad if WB is trying to make it sounds like Tom Cruise is the overwhelming fanboy choice. Actually, there really hasn't been an overwhelming choice for GL from what I've seen. I mean, for Kyle Raynor, a lot of people like Wes Bentley and Shane West (from what I've seen online here. Correct me if I'm wrong), but for Hal, it just seems like a toss-up.

Lucid
12-31-2004, 01:48 AM
Denise looks very elvish.

haha, I thought you meant she looks like Elvis Presley.

ultimatefan
12-31-2004, 07:52 AM
BTW, I´m not making a suggestion, I know that´s not gonna happen, but am I the only one who thinks Jen Garner could have been a much better Wonder Woman than Elektra? She´s a pretty decent actress, she can be a tough chick and she has an innocent and vulnerable side I think fits Diana much more than the dark Elektra. Just thinking out loud.

Hunter Rider
12-31-2004, 07:54 AM
BTW, I´m not making a suggestion, I know that´s not gonna happen, but am I the only one who thinks Jen Garner could have been a much better Wonder Woman than Elektra? She´s a pretty decent actress, she can be a tough chick and she has an innocent and vulnerable side I think fits Diana much more than the dark Elektra. Just thinking out loud.
i dont see her as wonder woman but definately black widow

pimpernel
12-31-2004, 09:21 AM
See she has support everywhere. (http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/frankcho/?read=48982) ;)

Captain Wonder
12-31-2004, 11:53 AM
Denise would be awesome as WW!!!!

pimpernel
12-31-2004, 09:20 PM
OK if i REALLY MUST choose someone under 30 it would have to be Evangeline Lilly...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil4.jpg

She is young yet looks womanly. She can act the pants off most other actresses her age. She can be soft and gentle but also tough and kick-ass. Behind Connelly and Bellucci she definately is my new fave. :up:

Hunter Rider
12-31-2004, 09:23 PM
WOW she is smokin,and was my second LOis choice but now she is my #1 young wonder woman choice.....pimpernel,you t3h own the WW casting thread:up: :up:

Lucid
12-31-2004, 10:40 PM
See she has support everywhere. (http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/frankcho/?read=48982) ;)

i don't know if i would call that "everywhere."

The Sage
12-31-2004, 11:35 PM
OK if i REALLY MUST choose someone under 30 it would have to be Evangeline Lilly...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/lil4.jpg

She is young yet looks womanly. She can act the pants off most other actresses her age. She can be soft and gentle but also tough and kick-ass. Behind Connelly and Bellucci she definately is my new fave. :up:

She can't fill the wonder bra. :down

;)

Red Mask
12-31-2004, 11:50 PM
She can't fill the wonder bra. :down

;)

That is sooo easy to fake. :rolleyes: The hard part will be the acting and getting the actress fit enough.

Lucid
01-01-2005, 03:43 AM
I just saw Bring It On with Tsianina Joelson. She's ok, but not great. She's kind of doofy. You know, heavy jaw and upturned pig nose. Not overwhelmingly, just a little bit. Though she is sort of "striking," like, she stands out from the others. It might be her eyebrows--they are very black and sharp looking. She looks kinda short, though. Someone guessed 5'6'' and that seems about right.

One thing about her that's great is that she's really pretty and feminine and yet, at the same time, has muscle and looks strong, but not too much where she looks masculine. She has a perfect balance. Some guy could walk up to her and think "she looks hot," but then be afraid to tell her because she could kick his ass. That's Wonder Woman.

I think her major problem is that she's not tall. It seems like Wonder Woman needs to be tall in order to be intimidating. I'd say, if Joelson were 6' or even 5'10'' she would be perfect, but she's not. She has enough of a quality where I would say she has potential, and she definitely deserves to audition, but I think we could find better.

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 08:34 AM
I just saw Bring It On with Tsianina Joelson. She's ok, but not great. She's kind of doofy. You know, heavy jaw and upturned pig nose. Not overwhelmingly, just a little bit. Though she is sort of "striking," like, she stands out from the others. It might be her eyebrows--they are very black and sharp looking. She looks kinda short, though. Someone guessed 5'6'' and that seems about right.

One thing about her that's great is that she's really pretty and feminine and yet, at the same time, has muscle and looks strong, but not too much where she looks masculine. She has a perfect balance. Some guy could walk up to her and think "she looks hot," but then be afraid to tell her because she could kick his ass. That's Wonder Woman.

I think her major problem is that she's not tall. It seems like Wonder Woman needs to be tall in order to be intimidating. I'd say, if Joelson were 6' or even 5'10'' she would be perfect, but she's not. She has enough of a quality where I would say she has potential, and she definitely deserves to audition, but I think we could find better.

No her major problem is that she is just an average actress.

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 08:37 AM
She can't fill the wonder bra. :down

;)

She fills it enough. Remember you are gonna have to armour-plate the wonder-puppies anyways and thats gonna bulk them up... if she is hugeup top already and THEN you add the armour she is gonna look like pammy or something. :eek:

Like i said i'd still much rather have Connelly or Bellucci but if they insist on going young then Lilly is the best choice IMO.

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 08:37 AM
That is sooo easy to fake. :rolleyes: The hard part will be the acting and getting the actress fit enough.

I think Lost proves she is physical enough for it. :up:

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 08:43 AM
I just want to jump in and say what has Jennifer Connely ever done besides play the damsel in distress? And the poor me type of roles? She hasn't done anything in the sense of action has she?

Thats just not true. She did a bunch of damsel in distress stuff early in her career and still does sometimes, but a lot of her stuff now is characters that are quiet yet fiesty. Watch House Of Sand And Fog. She has several scenes in that where she cuts loose and gets all angry and she REALLY puts herself into it. She more than shows that she has the ability to be a badass if required. Same with Waking The Dead and Requim For A Dream... she has "angry" scenes in all of those and it proves she has it in her. Thing is so far she just hasn't had a role where she has needed to showcase that side for longer periods, but she is more than capable.

The Techno Bat
01-01-2005, 01:47 PM
I just saw Bring It On with Tsianina Joelson. She's ok, but not great. She's kind of doofy. You know, heavy jaw and upturned pig nose. Not overwhelmingly, just a little bit. Though she is sort of "striking," like, she stands out from the others. It might be her eyebrows--they are very black and sharp looking. She looks kinda short, though. Someone guessed 5'6'' and that seems about right.

One thing about her that's great is that she's really pretty and feminine and yet, at the same time, has muscle and looks strong, but not too much where she looks masculine. She has a perfect balance. Some guy could walk up to her and think "she looks hot," but then be afraid to tell her because she could kick his ass. That's Wonder Woman.

I think her major problem is that she's not tall. It seems like Wonder Woman needs to be tall in order to be intimidating. I'd say, if Joelson were 6' or even 5'10'' she would be perfect, but she's not. She has enough of a quality where I would say she has potential, and she definitely deserves to audition, but I think we could find better.

You have made great points. I am a huge supporter for Tsianina to play Wonder Woman, and you could throw her in some lifts to bring her up to about 5'9 or 5'10. Look at Micheal Keaton he wasn't 6'2 for Batman but he filled the cape and cowl nicely, Keaton I believe is like 5'8. But lifts could do wonders and doesn't wonder woman run around in high heels anyway... Again great points!

The Techno Bat
01-01-2005, 01:50 PM
Thats just not true. She did a bunch of damsel in distress stuff early in her career and still does sometimes, but a lot of her stuff now is characters that are quiet yet fiesty. Watch House Of Sand And Fog. She has several scenes in that where she cuts loose and gets all angry and she REALLY puts herself into it. She more than shows that she has the ability to be a badass if required. Same with Waking The Dead and Requim For A Dream... she has "angry" scenes in all of those and it proves she has it in her. Thing is so far she just hasn't had a role where she has needed to showcase that side for longer periods, but she is more than capable.

There is no doubt in my mind that Connely could pull it off, but it's just that risk factor, like you support Connely because she is a great actress and could do it in your mind, but in my opinion that is a huge risk taking an actress that hasn't proven herself alot physically in movies, especially with Wonder Woman. But on the other side it is a huge risk factor in your opinion to take somebody like Tsianina, who is just an average actress, but has all the other qualities to play the role. Too bad we couldn't merge the two together then we would have the perfect choice! But we agree to disagree and that is what makes this so much fun

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 02:12 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that Connely could pull it off, but it's just that risk factor, like you support Connely because she is a great actress and could do it in your mind, but in my opinion that is a huge risk taking an actress that hasn't proven herself alot physically in movies, especially with Wonder Woman. But on the other side it is a huge risk factor in your opinion to take somebody like Tsianina, who is just an average actress, but has all the other qualities to play the role. Too bad we couldn't merge the two together then we would have the perfect choice! But we agree to disagree and that is what makes this so much fun

I see what your saying i just think that teaching someone (especially a former GYMNAST) to do physical stuff is a lot easier and far less of a gamble than teaching someone to act better. At the end of the day you can train a bloody monkey to do fight scenes, so i would much rather go for an awesome actress (and former GYMNAST) than someone whos main qualifications seem to be "looks good in an Amazon suit" and "has done a bunch of physcial stuff."

Slipping_Halo
01-01-2005, 02:16 PM
I see what your saying i just think that teaching someone (especially a former GYMNAST) to do physical stuff is a lot easier and far less of a gamble than teaching someone to act better. At the end of the day you can train a bloody monkey to do fight scenes, so i would much rather go for an awesome actress (and former GYMNAST) than someone whos main qualifications seem to be "looks good in an Amazon suit" and "has done a bunch of physcial stuff."

ditto

The Techno Bat
01-01-2005, 02:28 PM
I see what your saying i just think that teaching someone (especially a former GYMNAST) to do physical stuff is a lot easier and far less of a gamble than teaching someone to act better. At the end of the day you can train a bloody monkey to do fight scenes, so i would much rather go for an awesome actress (and former GYMNAST) than someone whos main qualifications seem to be "looks good in an Amazon suit" and "has done a bunch of physcial stuff."

I didn't realize she was a former gymnast. Hmmm.......interesting.
I feel as though as much as I like Tsianina, that your points about Connely are really starting to make sense to me. I am torn! ! !

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 02:36 PM
I didn't realize she was a former gymnast. Hmmm.......interesting.
I feel as though as much as I like Tsianina, that your points about Connely are really starting to make sense to me. I am torn! ! !

:up: Most people wouldn't be big enough to admit that. They'd just tell me to shut up and stick Connelly where the sun doesn't shine. :p

The Techno Bat
01-01-2005, 03:18 PM
:up: Most people wouldn't be big enough to admit that. They'd just tell me to shut up and stick Connelly where the sun doesn't shine. :p

I hear what your saying. Just because we agree to disagree doesn't mean we have to be rude and ignorant about it right. I wish everybody would respect other people's opinions and discuss it like normal people would, and not get vulgar about it.

You make some excellent and great points and it should be acknowledged....Unlike others who just say a name, and that is it. I like it when there is reason behind picking somebody, alot of people just say a name and that is it. That bugs me....

SolidRoar
01-01-2005, 03:54 PM
I agree. That's how flamewars start, actually. Pimpernel is one of the few that make sense on what he says and provide reasons. Though, I agree with him for the most part, I try to be more realistic when it come to casting and I prefer an unknown for the starring role. Other than that, hid choices for WW aren't bad at all and there's a side of me that actually want to see them taking the part. I think the actress' age should depend on the movie's story - if it's an origin story, they should probably go with a younger actress.

Darko
01-01-2005, 04:50 PM
I agree. That's how flamewars start, actually. Pimpernel is one of the few that make sense on what he says and provide reasons. Though, I agree with him for the most part, I try to be more realistic when it come to casting and I prefer an unknown for the starring role. Other than that, hid choices for WW aren't bad at all and there's a side of me that actually want to see them taking the part. I think the actress' age should depend on the movie's story - if it's an origin story, they should probably go with a younger actress.

I agree. While I admit connelly would be a good choice, Tsianina was born for the part. She without a doubt deserves to audition for the part.

Slipping_Halo
01-01-2005, 06:44 PM
I agree. That's how flamewars start, actually. Pimpernel is one of the few that make sense on what he says and provide reasons. Though, I agree with him for the most part, I try to be more realistic when it come to casting and I prefer an unknown for the starring role. Other than that, hid choices for WW aren't bad at all and there's a side of me that actually want to see them taking the part. I think the actress' age should depend on the movie's story - if it's an origin story, they should probably go with a younger actress.


yes, there should be no throwing of poop. I agree with pimpernel about Jennifer Connelly. And in the spirit of compromise, why not do what was done in Superman: The Movie and do the origin with a younger actress for those who thinks Jennifer Connelly is too old? We could build up to when she finally appears outside Paradise Island in the full WW duds by having a younger actress play out the origin,then kick it with Jennifer Connelly for the present Wonder Woman. That could work, couldn't it? Because, in my opinion, Jennifer Connelly doesn't look old at all (insert the Tobey-Maguire-playing-a-teenager argument here). But that would be nice to see if it was done somewhat in that way.

I'm not of the opinion that if Jennifer Connelly isn't cast that the movie won't fly, but it's my extremely strong opinion that SHE was born for the role. Sure there are others who look the part and may do very well, but I think she'd be the very best, given her calibur as an actress and just the fact that she looks the part despite however old she is. I don't think it's wise to have someone look too young playing WW. I think she should represent eternity, not eternal youth. Connelly has aged very gracefully, and she looks quite beautiful still. She is stunning in House of Sand and Fog, and she plays a druggie in that movie. Imagine if she bulked up a bit and got toned to play an Amazonian. I think many naysayers would swallow their tongue.

and again, this is my opinion, and I am in no way poopshooting.

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 06:54 PM
I don't think that would work cos WW doesn't really have an origin. There is the amazon origin and then there is WW's birth and then you've gotta cut straight to Steve Trevor crashing on Paradise Island and WW leaving... at which point she needs to be the same age she will be for the rest of the movie.
The inbetween stuff with her growing up and training can only be done in a montage at the most cos there is sooo much VITAL origin stuff already that if you included fuller scenes of her growing up then you would be near the end of the damn movie before she even left PA. That stuff doesn't really serve any purpose either. You could use the Batman Begins argument that showing the training gives you an insight into the capabilities of the character, but all that stuff is gonna get shown again anyways when you do the contest to choose a champion. Its dumb to show it twice and since the contest is vital then the training has has to go.
Anyways long story short there just isn't really any room to show a "young" Wondie.

Slipping_Halo
01-01-2005, 07:00 PM
yea, on second thought your way would work much better. In that case, I still stand behind JC for WW. I think others may do well, but nobody could do better.

pimpernel
01-01-2005, 07:05 PM
I think i'd start the movie with Trevor's crash and then have Hippolyta or someone relate the origin of the Amazon's to him as he is being nursed back to health. You could have the contest taking place as he is recovering too. I think it'd be a neat way to get all the stuff done without taking up half of the movie.

Spiked
01-01-2005, 09:52 PM
Catherine Zeta Jones is my first choice. Jennifer Connelly is also a good choice.

Ledfeather
01-01-2005, 11:02 PM
She might be a little old but I tell ya for looks Renee Sofer, she not a complete unknown. But you wouldnt be thinking of other rolls she's done well she wears the leotards.

Ledfeather

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 12:42 AM
I browsed through some threads, and read Jennifer Connelly, Catherine Zeta Jones, and Angelina Jolie as WW suggestions. And I disagree. Christian Bale said it best "The actor should not be greater than the character they are playing." And for anyone's information, I am a huge Angelina Jolie fan (way back when she was in Cyborg 2, I even had a fansite), but I never liked her as Lara Croft, they should have cast someone else. Getting back to WW. I saw 'John Q' in theaters, and when Heather Wahlquist (as "Julie Bird", the hostage with the abusive boyfriend) came on screen, it was as if Wonder Woman came on screen. The best casting choice in my opinion, requires two things: the look, and the acting ability. For me, Heather Wahlquist has the look (super-toned legs, very fit body, gorgeous face), the only thing that is sparse is her acting resume. Her lines in John Q were small, I did not see her performance in The Notebook (supporting cast), and she is currently working on Alpha Dog. But if looks were my first criteria, then she has already made it as my top casting choice! Be prepared, I have a crapload of screenshots from John Q. Opinions?

Heather Wahlquist as 'Julie Bird' from JOHN Q
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-1.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-2.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-3.jpg

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-4.jpg

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 12:46 AM
Heather Wahlquist as 'Julie Bird' from JOHN Q (2)
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-7.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-9.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-10.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-11.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-12.jpg
OUCH!

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 12:53 AM
Heather Wahlquist as 'Julie Bird' from JOHN Q (3) last set
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-13.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-16.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-18.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-21.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-23.jpg

Last word: casting candidates should be WOMEN, not recent teen stars, not college girls, not post-college/early 20 somethings, and NOT late 30somethings/40somethings, but should be WOMEN (mid 20s-mid 30s)!!!!
:batman:

SolidRoar
01-04-2005, 02:14 AM
Soooo, legs, huh? - LOL :p

Why don't you go to www.dc-on-film.com and post you choice on the WW forum?

Slipping_Halo
01-04-2005, 02:14 AM
if looks were our first criteria, we wouldn't be arguing at all and just picked some model or something that looks the part. i think acting chops is what is giving all of us different opinions and choices.

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 02:48 AM
Soooo, legs, huh? - LOL http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Why don't you go to www.dc-on-film.com (http://www.dc-on-film.com/) and post you choice on the WW forum?Hell yes legs! Heather Wahlquist was decent in John Q. I still ahve to see how she was in The Notebook. There is still lots of time. And yes any model we could pick, but she's already an actress, she just needs a little more exposure. I am just really against casting a well-known actress. I'd rather gamble on letting the movie make someone a star, rather than gambling on well-known star who'll ruin a comic icon that has lasted through decades. I think of Ben Affleck as Daredevil, and it's pretty depressing. I think of George Clooney as Batman, and I wish it were never a reality. Like Christian Bale said, "The actor should never be greater than the character they are playing". I agree.

thanks for the suggestion to post on dc-on-film.com

pimpernel
01-04-2005, 06:01 AM
This should've gone in the other thread. And no.

Fused
01-04-2005, 04:08 PM
I'd be down with this choice.

Fused
01-04-2005, 04:24 PM
With WW being a hot topic nowadays I gotta address to all the Belucci fans that I am a fan of hers myself. I agree that shes gorgeous and I loved her in Brotherhood of the Wolf and the Matrix films. But give up the dream, as Wonder Woman it just aint gonna happen.

igotatromboner
01-04-2005, 05:03 PM
Good find. I'd back her, but then I remember MONICA BELLUCCI!!!

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Monica Belluci - beautiful, but looks too old to me to play WW.

Jennifer Connelly - she's been around, but looks to drowsy to me.

Carrie Anne Moss - overexposed from Matrix, though she could've been Aeon Flux if there were no Matrix movies yet

Catherine Zeta Jones - please, she's too old, and i don't want to see t-mobile comemricals in my head

Tsianina Joelson - she's pretty fit, but her face doesn't read WW to me.

Morena Baccarin - doesn't stand out for me.

Charisma Carpenter - she's pretty, for a younger WW.

Sarah Michelle Gellar - please, she's like an imp, she's too petite, i need a WOMAN..she still looks like she's a college freshman. i need a WOMAN to be WW.

Angelina Jolie - if AJ wasn't so thin, and if she never did the Tomb Raider movies, then I might consider her (and I AM a huge AJ fan, but that alone won't make me want to choose her). She's better playing slightly evil roles. She's too much of a sexy bad girl. Catwoman/Selina Kyle might suit her better.


So here's my choices so far!!!

Heather Wahlquist (from John Q)

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-2.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-13.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-23.jpg

Krista Allen

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/kristaallen1.jpg


and Brittany Daniel (Joe Dirt, Club Dread)

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/brittanydaniel.jpg

Look at those abs! If anyone has seen her in Club Dread, then you'll know how fit this woman is!

:batman:

pimpernel
01-04-2005, 05:31 PM
My choices so far!!!

Heather Wahlquist

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-2.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-13.jpg
http://www.101fools.org/ssh/JOHN_Q-23.jpg

Krista Allen

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/kristaallen1.jpg


and Brittany Daniel

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/brittanydaniel.jpg

Look at those abs! If anyone has seen her in Club Dread, then you'll know how fit this woman is!

:batman:

1) They all look like cheap go-go dancers.

2) None of them can act for shiet.

Head>On<Collider
01-04-2005, 05:43 PM
Tsianina Joelson. Fin Fini FINISHED!!!!

ck1777
01-04-2005, 08:50 PM
I don't know if it's been mentioned but what about Rhona Mitra.

1)She's still in her twenty's
2)Gorgeous
3)Great body
4)Exotic

http://img108.exs.cx/img108/4981/lg19vl.jpg

The Sage
01-04-2005, 08:51 PM
1) They all look like cheap go-go dancers.

2) None of them can act for shiet.

:up:

I still haven't seen anyone that has made me rethink my decision on Connelly or Bellucci...

The Techno Bat
01-04-2005, 10:44 PM
I still support Tsianina Joelson for Wonder Woman, and I see the argument for Jennifer Connelly, especially after seeing her in a preview for her new movie, which looks pretty good. And I saw JC's new movie during Blade Trinity, which brings me to another woman that I would like to throw out there for a choice for Wonder Woman...what about Jessica Biel? After seeing her in Blade Trinity she is a proven ass kicker, is in amazing shape, drop dead gorgeous, and can definately act. So what about Jessica Biel, she is young and could pump out two or three wonder woman movies and still be in her 30's when it is all said and done?

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 11:30 PM
I'd be down with this choice.
Cool. Nice to see someone not choosing a well -known actress. I think of Christopher Reeve as Superman. He BECAME our image of Superman. They didn't use some current star of the time to headline. I'm thinking they should do the same with WW. simply because there are too many well known actresses whose names will mire the real character that is trying to be portrayed. Yes, there are tons of talented actresses, but I want someone to BECOME WW. It just reminds me that the majority of society simply feeds off of what the tabloids, media keep on shoving in front of their eyes. I mean I guess I can't blame the people who want to see a Catherine Zeta Jones, Jennifer Connelly, or Angelina Jolie, if that's the only actresses they always see or hear about in the entertainment media, and they don't watch anything else. In the end, it's the casting/director's decision, which I fear most of the time:)

criticalcasting
01-04-2005, 11:54 PM
1) They all look like cheap go-go dancers.

2) None of them can act for shiet.There ARE other pics available. These I just chose to show off the bodies they already have ready to play such a role.

I can't make a substantial call on their acting abilities yet, because they haven't been given large parts. Heather Wahlquist is just starting to have a career, Brittany Daniel's done lots of tv, and Krista Allen has done soap opera and has been around. Krista probably has the most acting experience. Unless you've seen all her work, I wouldn't discredit her so quickly.

And I would have no complaints if they go-go danced for mehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Jennifer Connelly is talented, but her face doesn't strike me as strong and beautiful. Not saying she's ugly, she's very pretty, but that there are lots other actresses with more strikingly beautiful faces than her. Monica Belluci, well she has too much age written on her face. I luved her in Matrix, but she has that "older woman" sexiness (she's 40+ yrs old!). I would rather choose the woman in the pink dress that the Merovingian had the special dessert for. Or also the woman in the red dress that Mouse created in the Matrix simulation program.

My real opinion is that I wish they wouldn't make a WW movie. It's always hard to please the fans in making a live action film. I think no one would be arguing if they simply made a Justice League animated theatrical movie from the cartoon series with the current voice actors.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/batman.gif

few more krista allen pics

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/kristaallen2.jpg http://www.101fools.org/ssh/kristaallen3.jpg

thanks to a dc-on-film.com poster for the suggestion!

Red Mask
01-05-2005, 01:51 AM
Is Aaron Spelling hiding in here? It feels like it.

pimpernel
01-05-2005, 04:24 AM
There ARE other pics available. These I just chose to show off the bodies they already have ready to play such a role.

I can't make a substantial call on their acting abilities yet, because they haven't been given large parts. Heather Wahlquist is just starting to have a career, Brittany Daniel's done lots of tv, and Krista Allen has done soap opera and has been around. Krista probably has the most acting experience. Unless you've seen all her work, I wouldn't discredit her so quickly.

And I would have no complaints if they go-go danced for mehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Jennifer Connelly is talented, but her face doesn't strike me as strong and beautiful. Not saying she's ugly, she's very pretty, but that there are lots other actresses with more strikingly beautiful faces than her. Monica Belluci, well she has too much age written on her face. I luved her in Matrix, but she has that "older woman" sexiness (she's 40+ yrs old!). I would rather choose the woman in the pink dress that the Merovingian had the special dessert for. Or also the woman in the red dress that Mouse created in the Matrix simulation program.

My real opinion is that I wish they wouldn't make a WW movie. It's always hard to please the fans in making a live action film. I think no one would be arguing if they simply made a Justice League animated theatrical movie from the cartoon series with the current voice actors.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/batman.gif

few more krista allen pics

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/kristaallen2.jpg http://www.101fools.org/ssh/kristaallen3.jpg

thanks to a dc-on-film.com poster for the suggestion!

OK lemme try to be polite about this. They still look like go-go dancers. That would be because the actresses themselves look like go-go dancers, therefore every pic you see them in: go-go dancers.
They have been suggested many times before and y'know why people still don't vote for them? Go-go dancers.
Lemme give you an example. Krista Allen. Whats she famous for? Soft core porn. Nuff said... that fact alone takes her outta the running.
So to sum up: WW shouldn't look like a cheap vegas hooker.

Next point: You are tripping if you think Conelly isn't striking.

Next: Bellucci is 36. Check your facts. Its well known here that IMDB is wrong with that one. All other websites (including her official one) give her age as 36... and definately NOT "40+"... nice twisting BTW.

Lastly: Don't be giving us your damn casting opinions if you don't think the movie should be made. Whats the point of that? You basically just said you don't give a toss about the movie, so all your suggestions are gonna be half-arsed at best.

criticalcasting
01-05-2005, 02:16 PM
OK lemme try to be polite about this. They still look like go-go dancers. That would be because the actresses themselves look like go-go dancers, therefore every pic you see them in: go-go dancers.
They have been suggested many times before and y'know why people still don't vote for them? Go-go dancers.
Lemme give you an example. Krista Allen. Whats she famous for? Soft core porn. Nuff said... that fact alone takes her outta the running.
So to sum up: WW shouldn't look like a cheap vegas hooker.

Next point: You are tripping if you think Conelly isn't striking.

Next: Bellucci is 36. Check your facts. Its well known here that IMDB is wrong with that one. All other websites (including her official one) give her age as 36... and definately NOT "40+"... nice twisting BTW.

Lastly: Don't be giving us your damn casting opinions if you don't think the movie should be made. Whats the point of that? You basically just said you don't give a toss about the movie, so all your suggestions are gonna be half-arsed at best.

Heheh. dude, you need to lighten up. If you like Connelly, then that's fine. I only gave my own opinions. I wasn't trying to "twist" any facts because I have no intentions of doing so. I don't have all the time in the world to do deep research either. I checked imdb, so do millions of other people. You want to be polite about it, but I never asked for you to be rude about it in the first place. And even if I think the movie shouldn't be made, doesn't mean I shouldn't have opinions about it. I can live with multiple choices. It's not difficult for me. Anyway, I have a feeling they might pull the formula of using a less-known/unknown actor and surrounding them with bigger stars, just like they are doing for Batman Begins, just like they are doing for Superman Returns, and just like they did for the original Superman movie. We'll just have to wait and see.:rolleyes: :batman:

pimpernel
01-05-2005, 02:54 PM
Heheh. dude, you need to lighten up. If you like Connelly, then that's fine. I only gave my own opinions. I wasn't trying to "twist" any facts because I have no intentions of doing so. I don't have all the time in the world to do deep research either. I checked imdb, so do millions of other people. You want to be polite about it, but I never asked for you to be rude about it in the first place. And even if I think the movie shouldn't be made, doesn't mean I shouldn't have opinions about it. I can live with multiple choices. It's not difficult for me. Anyway, I have a feeling they might pull the formula of using a less-known/unknown actor and surrounding them with bigger stars, just like they are doing for Batman Begins, just like they are doing for Superman Returns, and just like they did for the original Superman movie. We'll just have to wait and see.:rolleyes: :batman:

Lighten up? Mate this is a message board... do you seriously think i even bother to break a sweat over what is said here?

All i'm saying is if you're gonna post on something then at least take the time to read through the appropriate thread first to see where people are at with the subject. It only takes a couple of minutes.
Seeing as you are a newb i'm being polite and offering you some friendly advice is all.

Babs Gordon
01-05-2005, 08:42 PM
Tsianina!!! :D

i gotta agree... i don't see wonder woman in those two suggestions at all. they don't look... extraordinary enough to me.

monica bellucci... gorgeous but not "i'm going to tear you apart" enough
carrie ann moss... MEH!
jennifer connelly... kind of frail looking. i can only see it as far as her face.
charisma carpenter... one smack will shatter her to pieces.

i think tsianina joelson looks great for the part but i honestly couldn't judge based on her acting because i haven't seen her act.
http://www.awebcreation.com/cast/tsianina7.jpg
here's a manip i did of her with diana blues.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/tsianina.jpg

SolidRoar
01-05-2005, 09:08 PM
LOL - I just did a Google search for "Michelle Lintel" to see if she'd be good as WW, only to find some manipped pics of her as WW.

Phantomex
01-06-2005, 12:41 AM
She doesn't act anymore though. She quit to pursue "interests in church work", according to tvtome.com.

Someone in another thread proposed Alana De La Garza from The Mountain on WB. Has anyone seen that, and if so can she act?

http://www.alanadelagarza.com/portfolio.html

http://www.alanadelagarza.com/alana1.jpg
http://www.alanadelagarza.com/alana9.jpg
http://www.alanadelagarza.com/alana3.jpg

Kroc1138
01-06-2005, 02:02 PM
If they insist on going younger then maybe Katherine Heigl...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/heigl1.jpg

Just darken her hair. Her natural colour is really dark anyways but all the pics of that are from when she was even younger than here.
Her most recent pics show she has even lost the puppy fat and is looking way more womanly than ever...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/simonpimpernel/heigl2.jpgKatherine Heigl!! I Love her!! She's sooo Hot. But she isn't WW. Although I could see her playing Artemis, Diana's competitor. (and one time WW) I actually envisioned her doing that part sometime back.

The Techno Bat
01-06-2005, 02:29 PM
What about Jessica Biel, to throw another name out there for a younger Wonder Woman?

http://www.jessebiel.com/html/photos/17bw2.jpg

pimpernel
01-06-2005, 02:49 PM
What about Jessica Biel, to throw another name out there for a younger Wonder Woman?

http://www.jessebiel.com/html/photos/17bw2.jpg


Nah. But she'd make a nifty Artemis.

The Techno Bat
01-06-2005, 03:20 PM
Nah. But she'd make a nifty Artemis.

Just throwing out another younger actress. :cool:
She can definately kick ass and would be great as a Wonder Woman Allie or Villian, she was really good in Blade Trinity.

The Techno Bat
01-06-2005, 03:28 PM
Brittany Daniel (Joe Dirt, Club Dread)

http://www.101fools.org/ssh/brittanydaniel.jpg

Look at those abs! If anyone has seen her in Club Dread, then you'll know how fit this woman is!


Being Fit and Being able to act though are two different things.

Captain Wonder
01-06-2005, 05:20 PM
Michelle Lintel is a HUGE WW fan and according to Black Scorpion fans the sexy actress is doing infomercials now, but she'd be a GREAT WW!!!

Fused
01-06-2005, 07:02 PM
I'd also be down with Jess Biel. She'd need to amp up her fighting abilities a couple notches from blade trinity. But with good directing that can be helped.

Rhona Mitra looks perfect. But Im afraid her acting range would hurt her a bit. I havent seen that TV show shes on, though.

Belucci...again nothing but love for her, but give up the dream. She aint happening.

Red Mask
01-06-2005, 10:44 PM
I saw this TV movie starring Charisma Carpenter. And she didn't look young anymore.

Darko
01-07-2005, 06:34 AM
Tsianina!!! :D

i gotta agree... i don't see wonder woman in those two suggestions at all. they don't look... extraordinary enough to me.

monica bellucci... gorgeous but not "i'm going to tear you apart" enough
carrie ann moss... MEH!
jennifer connelly... kind of frail looking. i can only see it as far as her face.
charisma carpenter... one smack will shatter her to pieces.

i think tsianina joelson looks great for the part but i honestly couldn't judge based on her acting because i haven't seen her act.
http://www.awebcreation.com/cast/tsianina7.jpg
here's a manip i did of her with diana blues.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/femmeke830/tsianina.jpg
:cool::up:

BC4ever
01-07-2005, 09:08 AM
I thought to Musetta Vander (Shan'auc in STARGATE SG1), Melinda clarke (the OC) and Robia la Morte for WW.

Phantomex
01-07-2005, 09:52 AM
This was a casting idea I had a while back, wanted to see how she would look in the suit so I made this. Don't know if I would suggest it anymore though.

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/6264/malthewonderwoman1xz.jpg

The Techno Bat
01-07-2005, 01:01 PM
This was a casting idea I had a while back, wanted to see how she would look in the suit so I made this. Don't know if I would suggest it anymore though.

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/6264/malthewonderwoman1xz.jpg

:up: Great effort though. And I gotta agree with you, I don't see her as Wonder Woman either. :up:

CLARKY
01-07-2005, 02:13 PM
hey guys what about Ali Landry 4 WonderWoman?
she's beautiful!(even if I know that is not the only one quality od Diana).but she has the kind of greek/mediteranean type.
http://downtown.ala.net/~hanklee/landry2.jpg
http://www.merc100.com/Ali_Landry_wallpaper_web.jpg

The Techno Bat
01-07-2005, 02:28 PM
hey guys what about Ali Landry 4 WonderWoman?
she's beautiful!(even if I know that is not the only one quality od Diana).but she has the kind of greek/mediteranean type.


She is very beautiful, and could look the part, but the question is, can she really act? And from what I have seen from her, that would be NO!

pimpernel
01-07-2005, 02:49 PM
Ali is gorgeous but she can't act. Shame. Also (and i know this is nitpicking) i don't want the Wonder Puppies to be made from plastic. Just seems wrong.

Webley
01-07-2005, 03:40 PM
I say give the part to this woman.
http://sginc.ubergirls.org/gallery/mandi/mm_ww.jpg

CLARKY
01-07-2005, 04:51 PM
She is very beautiful, and could look the part, but the question is, can she really act? And from what I have seen from her, that would be NO!

yes yes I know..and I agree.I was just...U know...approaching the idea.too bad.but at least physically speaking I found her really great!

CLARKY
01-07-2005, 04:54 PM
but with the voice of susan eisenberg, and FX 4 her mouth and body language from someone else, and FX 4 the face expressions?........it could work, couldn't it?


naaaaaaaaaaaahh!ok ok!

CLARKY
01-07-2005, 04:55 PM
could someone try to manip Ali?4 fun.

Webley
01-07-2005, 04:55 PM
Sandra BULLOCK
http://heromorph.com/modules/myalbum/photos/548.jpg

Spike_x1
01-07-2005, 05:00 PM
Hell no. :(

pimpernel
01-07-2005, 05:01 PM
Sandra BULLOCK
http://heromorph.com/modules/myalbum/photos/548.jpg

Never EVER let this woman darken this thread again or you will be shot on sight. :p

The Techno Bat
01-07-2005, 05:14 PM
yes yes I know..and I agree.I was just...U know...approaching the idea.too bad.but at least physically speaking I found her really great!

Physically speaking she looks the part, that much I agree with you. And sparking the conversation :D

Webley
01-07-2005, 07:52 PM
Give the part back to Linda Carter she still looks grate!
http://www.lindacarter.com/pic9.jpg
http://www.lindacarter.com/009.jpg

Steelsheen
01-07-2005, 08:08 PM
Give the part back to Linda Carter she still looks grate!
http://www.lindacarter.com/pic9.jpg
http://www.lindacarter.com/009.jpg
LOL!

i was thinking she can make a special appearance as Diana's mother Hippolyta (sp?). blonde or brunette, she's still lovely :)

Captain Wonder
01-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Lynda Carter Is Wonder Woman!!!!

The Techno Bat
01-08-2005, 02:36 PM
LOL!

i was thinking she can make a special appearance as Diana's mother Hippolyta (sp?). blonde or brunette, she's still lovely :)

That is the only way I would want to see Lynda Carter in a Wonder Woman movie

Aethea
01-08-2005, 02:52 PM
Linda Carter CANNOT act at all. She is gorgeous and beautiful, but looks are not enough.

CLARKY
01-08-2005, 04:05 PM
i was thinking she can make a special appearance as Diana's mother Hippolyta (sp?). blonde or brunette, she's still lovely :)
yeah I'd agree with that.

pimpernel
01-08-2005, 04:09 PM
Linda Carter CANNOT act at all. She is gorgeous and beautiful, but looks are not enough.

Ouch. I gotta say i'd never cast her if she hadn't done it back in the day cos she looks really old now and not even remotely Amazonesque, but the fact is she DID do WW and she OWNED the character and it'd be really cruel not putting in this... kinda like not having Adam West in Batman89.

Kal-El 8
01-08-2005, 11:17 PM
http://home.att.net/~wayne.a.wong/Color/WAWong_wonderwoman_ptg_net.jpg

Ok For the casting of Wonder Woman. The woman got to have a nice Bod & she's got to have some nice Goods :rolleyes: :cool:

So I would pick.between

Monica Belluci

or

Catherine Zeta Jones

Darko
01-11-2005, 04:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjconv8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tsianinapas2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjcontenderpremiere.jpg
bump

pimpernel
01-11-2005, 10:37 AM
Horrible choice. :p

The Techno Bat
01-11-2005, 11:57 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Sadistic_asian/tjcontenderpremiere.jpg
bump

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