Official Wonder Woman Casting Suggestions [merged-13]

[pimpernel]

Not a lot of action in that movie. There was much more in Dobermann.

True and true... either way she is still perfectly capable.

The actress has to be young, because if the movie is successful and it becomes a franchise, you will need someone who can still be believable as Wonder Woman in six-seven years.

Not true. Look at Janssen, Berry, and Stamos in the X-Men movies... or Berry in CIO... or Moss in the Matrix trilogy... a 35 yo is totally capable of pulling off a trilogy of this type. Everyone knows that... its just that some people seem to wanna ignore it cos it suits them.

[pimpernel]

Times like this I wish I wasn't an American. How is that film?

Its not bad... but like Ant pointed out theres a lot more action in Doberman. :p

[The Sage]

Pimper YOU ARE WRONG!! she has already Played a Greek Goddes So there!!

Hey I'm one of the biggest fans of Hercules The Legendary Journeys, but I wouldn't want her for WW. She looks great though.

[shadowstarxxx]

Hi All,

I'm new to the boards and would like to take this time to say What's Up.

I for one have been waiting for a Live Action Wonder Woman movie for a long time.

In my opinion The actress that would be best suited to play Wonder Woman is Ali Landry!

She not only is beautiful, but also looks like she could be related to Lynda Carter.

He's a link to a website where I posted my thoughts for Live Action WW movie with Cast, Crew, and a Plot.

http://www.ultimatewonder.com/board_shadowstar.html

Hope you enjoy it

[buggs0268]

SupermanExtreMe, don't worry about pimp. He just thinks everyone should agree with him. He did the same thing to me. trust me...the ignore button is a nice feature when it comes to him.

[SolidRoar]

Solid seen her pics??
Yes, I did. She looks good, but I don't recall her acting. I did see Van Wilder and some episodes of Hercules, though.

I don't really think there's a "perfect" choice for Wonder Woman. In the end, it all boils down to one's personal opinion.

[pimpernel]

Hi All,

I'm new to the boards and would like to take this time to say What's Up.

I for one have been waiting for a Live Action Wonder Woman movie for a long time.

In my opinion The actress that would be best suited to play Wonder Woman is Ali Landry!

She not only is beautiful, but also looks like she could be related to Lynda Carter.

He's a link to a website where I posted my thoughts for Live Action WW movie with Cast, Crew, and a Plot.

http://www.ultimatewonder.com/board_shadowstar.html

Hope you enjoy it

:rolleyes:

[pimpernel]

SupermanExtreMe, don't worry about pimp. He just thinks everyone should agree with him. He did the same thing to me. trust me...the ignore button is a nice feature when it comes to him.

Dude why do you have to be such a wanker? I tried to have a civilised discussion with you beut you keep turning it into an argument. I'm allowed to give popinions and if you don't like that then piss off.

And shut up about the ignore button cos you clearly haven't been using it.

[The Sage]

Dude why do you have to be such a wanker? I tried to have a civilised discussion with you beut you keep turning it into an argument. I'm allowed to give popinions and if you don't like that then piss off.

And shut up about the ignore button cos you clearly haven't been using it.
http://img119.exs.cx/img119/5434/luthowned6fp.jpg

[That-Guy]

Hey freddie, how ya been, dude?

[hippie_hunter]

So freddie is now spamming the DC boards since DiCaprio and Robin won't be in the Batman film and that Welling isn't Superman

[green]

Can anyone recommend good Wonder Woman TPB's.

[pimpernel]

Can anyone recommend good Wonder Woman TPB's.

The first WW archive edition is a must... its got some really fun stuff and its one of the best examples of Golden Age writing out there. In fact any of the archive edition by William Moulton Marston are a must... after him the character got kinda silly.

Wonder Woman: Gods & Mortals by George Perez is the post-Crisis reboot of the character... a lot of people swear by it but i think its an over-rated mess... the best thing about it is the way it works all the Greek mythology back into the series and powers up the character. Like i said its a bit messy for my liking but unfortunately you kinda need it cos it sets up everything about the current WW.

Wonder Woman: Challenge Of The Gods... also by Perez... this is way better than Gods & Mortals but i'm still not too keen on it.

Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia by Greg Rucka is really good... definately check that out.

Wonder Woman: Down To Earth... also by Rucka... this is worth checking out too.

Maybe Paradise Lost/Paradise Found by Phil Jimenez... and i hear JLA: A League Of One is worth looking at tho.

Other than that there really isn't much... the character is woefully neglected.

[buggs0268]

Actually pinp, you are on ignore. But I saw this guy post something, and then you do a couple of post, which are blocked cause you are on ignore, and then I saw the guy post this:

whatever pimper your just abitter fanboy and dont know how to cast!

Figured you where doing the same thing to him you did to me so I recomended that he put you on ignore. The only reason why I saw what you said about me recomending ignore is that someone else copied what you said and it was quoted in their thread. Trust me, you are on ignore.

And no you dont just give you opinion. You scream your opinion as you want peopel to agree with you and only you. I have seen posts in this forum where you are typing/screaming everything in bold uppercase letters. Everyone else here listens to other peoples idea, and it is a communication exchange. You just want to force everyone to see your point of view. You did it with me. You have done it in other posts. And that is why you are on ignore.

[green]

the character is woefully neglected.

That's what I've been finding...thanks for the rest though Pimp.

[pimpernel]

Actually pinp, you are on ignore. But I saw this guy post something, and then you do a couple of post, which are blocked cause you are on ignore, and then I saw the guy post this:

whatever pimper your just abitter fanboy and dont know how to cast!

Figured you where doing the same thing to him you did to me so I recomended that he put you on ignore. The only reason why I saw what you said about me recomending ignore is that someone else copied what you said and it was quoted in their thread. Trust me, you are on ignore.

And no you dont just give you opinion. You scream your opinion as you want peopel to agree with you and only you. I have seen posts in this forum where you are typing/screaming everything in bold uppercase letters. Everyone else here listens to other peoples idea, and it is a communication exchange. You just want to force everyone to see your point of view. You did it with me. You have done it in other posts. And that is why you are on ignore.

Dude you need to chill out... this crazy vendetta thing you have against me is wearing thin. If you wanna put me on ignore thats fine but why bother replying to stuff you see in qoutes? You might as well just take me off ignore if you're gonna do that.

I've "screamed at people in bold" maybe twice at most... and if you can't tell that i'm kidding around when i do that then you're too dumb to be posting in a forum with adults.

I always listen to ideas... if they are good ideas (Bellucci, Lilly, Bayne) i take them on board and say so... if they are bad ideas (Biel and countless others) then i say so and move on. I really couldn't give a crap if people agree with me or not. See thats what this place is for... discussion of ideas... don't be a baby just cos i didn't agree with your ideas.

Lemme explain this real slowly to you: the reason i didn't simply move on with you is cos you kept coming after me and getting all pissy cos i wouldn't accept your BS as fact... i didn't persecute you mate... it was the other way round... you tried to persecute me and got your ass handed to you... its not my fault your nose is outta joint cos of that... you brought it on yourself.

Now i'm gonna say this one more time and if you persist after that i'm just gonna report you to a mod: back off. You said your piece and i proved you wrong. Deal with that. I'm allegedly on ignore yet you still make comments about me all the time... even when i haven't said anything to you or about you... grow up and STFU.

[MAVSFAN]

How about a recent Best Actress winner?

[pimpernel]

Hilary Swank? Get outta here. :p

[Red Mask]

I hope he wasn't referring to Halle Berry either. First Catwoman then Wonder Woman? No way!

[MAVSFAN]

Hilary Swank? Get outta here. :p

That's who I am talking about. It would not surprise me to see her name pop up in some of these casting rumors for superhero films.

[Steelsheen]

That's who I am talking about. It would not surprise me to see her name pop up in some of these casting rumors for superhero films.
um, no.

i like Hilary Swank, she's a fantastic actress, but no WW material

.... no matter how buff she is.

[Red Mask]

She didn't look buff anymore at the Academy Awards.

[pimpernel]

And she has way too much tooth going on to be Wondie. :eek:

[Steelsheen]

She didn't look buff anymore at the Academy Awards.
that's 'coz she was wearing that god-ugly dress. :rolleyes:

her back still looks nice :)

[joecasual]

Hilary Swank? Get outta here. :p

She didn't look buff anymore at the Academy Awards.

I dunno... She looks pretty buff to me.

[MAVSFAN]

Hilary Swank was just a suggestion.

Monica Bellucci would be my first choice, but I would not have a problem with Jennifer Connelly.

[Red Mask]

Of those three, Hilary Swank could handle some action scenes before using a stunt double. The other two would seriously have to learn how to act like a fighter. But I don't think Hilary Swank will become the next Wonder Woman.

[pimpernel]

Swank doesn't look remotely like WW.

[joecasual]

Swank doesn't look remotely like WW.

I dunno...maybe if she darkened her hair...

But since when do any actors look like the characters they portray?

We've got Keanu Reeves in Constantine, Halle Berry in Cat Woman, Famke Janssen in X-Men, Etc.

Sandra Bullock was the first name out there when it came to who would be playing WW. And she doesn't look remotely like WW.

Kim Basinger or Jessica Biel are rumoured to be the two lead choices. Do either of them look like WW?

I mean we can't exactly expect any real accuracy.

[The Sage]

Kim Basinger or Jessica Biel are rumoured to be the two lead choices. Do either of them look like WW?

No, which is one of the reasons why they shouldn't play the role and why the rumors should just be considered rumors.

[joecasual]

No, which is one of the reasons why they shouldn't play the role and why the rumors should just be considered rumors.

You won't see me arguing with that.

Monica Bellucci would be my first choice, but I would not have a problem with Jennifer Connelly.

Monica would be great. Jennifer...maybe.

[buggs0268]

Hillary Swank's facial features make her look like a guy to me.

[pimpernel]

I dunno...maybe if she darkened her hair...

But since when do any actors look like the characters they portray?

We've got Keanu Reeves in Constantine, Halle Berry in Cat Woman, Famke Janssen in X-Men, Etc.

Sandra Bullock was the first name out there when it came to who would be playing WW. And she doesn't look remotely like WW.

Kim Basinger or Jessica Biel are rumoured to be the two lead choices. Do either of them look like WW?

I mean we can't exactly expect any real accuracy.

Dude none of those women look like WW... but that still doesn't make Swank's face look any less like a guy with big teeth.

[dnno1]

How about Mauela Arcuri. She has been in a few foriegn films ("Mad Love" might be one that some of you have seen) but is virtually unknown here in the US. I think she is very beautiful, somewhat tall (about 5'8"-5'9") and has a Wonder Woman look (including the rack that some members have been asking for). Here is a couple of picutres and some links:
http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/ManuelaArcuri/ManuelaArcuri002.jpg

http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/ManuelaArcuri/ManuelaArcuri035.jpg
http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/ManuelaArcuri/ManuelaArcuri032.jpg

http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/ManuelaArcuri/ManuelaArcuri036.jpghttp://www.guiadelcomic.com/autores/pix/bolland/wonder-woman-poster-portada.jpg

http://www.manuelaarcuri.it/
http://www.famousbabes.com/ManuelaArcuri/indexs.html

Dno.

[Aethea]

Monica Belluci has the acting talent, the beauty, and the penetrating gaze filled with all the emotions Wonder Woman should radiate. Jennifer Connelly looks like a woman, whom anyone can take advantage of. She is gorgeous but radiates no command, assertiveness or power...just pain and a broken heart.

If Joel Siver goes for an older Wonder Woman, then the movie would probably have to start "in medias res" (in the middle of the plot), where Wondie has already been established as a superhero force in our dimension, with flashbacks retelling her origin, but I think we all want to see an ORIGIN story--and for that we would need a younger actress. Jordan Bayne is unquestionably a fan favorite, and her talent is amazing!

[SolidRoar]

Whomever they end up casting, she should have an exotic look to her. That would convince people that she actually came from an island and not just someone who could be the girl next door!

[Lobo]

Monica Belluci has the acting talent, the beauty, and the penetrating gaze filled with all the emotions Wonder Woman should radiate. Jennifer Connelly looks like a woman, whom anyone can take advantage of. She is gorgeous but radiates no command, assertiveness or power...just pain and a broken heart.

If Joel Siver goes for an older Wonder Woman, then the movie would probably have to start "in medias res" (in the middle of the plot), where Wondie has already been established as a superhero force in our dimension, with flashbacks retelling her origin, but I think we all want to see an ORIGIN story--and for that we would need a younger actress. Jordan Bayne is unquestionably a fan favorite, and her talent is amazing!


What's Bayne been in? I've never seen her act. But if she is AMAZING, then I'm sure as hell all for her to be WW.

[Antonello Blueberry]

How about Mauela Arcuri. She has been in a few foriegn films ("Mad Love" might be one that some of you have seen) but is virtually unknown here in the US. I think she is very beautiful, somewhat tall (about 5'8"-5'9") and has a Wonder Woman look (including the rack that some members have been asking for). Here is a couple of picutres and some links:
http://www.manuelaarcuri.it/
http://www.famousbabes.com/ManuelaArcuri/indexs.html

Dno.
Manuela is stunning. I've seen her in person, as she's a friend of a couple of friends of mine. But she's not a very good actress and I even doubt she speaks a great English.

[dnno1]

Manuela is stunning. I've seen her in person, as she's a friend of a couple of friends of mine. But she's not a very good actress and I even doubt she speaks a great English.

Anto,

The reason why I suggested Manuela was because I saw her in "Mad Love" (also know as "Juana la Loca" in Spanish or "Giovanna la Pazza” in Itallian). Unless her voice was dubbed I thought she had a significant part in the movie. I then discovered that she has been in at least 19 films and one Italian TV series for a couple of years (I think it was called “Carabinieri”). There are hundreds of starlets that are fortunate to get one line in a film let alone be in 19. Even Linda Carter had only been in 8 films (the last seven since 2001) and spent most of her career on the small screen (television).

As far as being able to speak engilish, if Sophia Loren as able to learn it, I think Manuela could to. All she would need to do is be willing to take lessons from a linguist. She learned spanish didn't she? But then again, if she is content with being popular in Itally and Spain then good for her. Oh well, it was a nice try anyway. I am glad you agree that she is beautiful, though.

Dnno

[buggs0268]

You know what, looking at thsi pic, she might not have been that bad in the 90's if they had made the movie:

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Arban+Ornelas/v=2/SID=w/TID=I019_82/l=IVI/SIG=15et4uajh/EXP=1110353754/*-http%3A//groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nJgAAALkKsat7LyLuyqkwUW3Gqdlz3OFDFg0FIXP*I TqT*PMZCOXuHNwyBnn*x0lZyaZZb2oZ13M

Somehow I thought she would have looked alot worse in the suit.

[pimpernel]

You know what, looking at thsi pic, she might not have been that bad in the 90's if they had made the movie:

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Arban+Ornelas/v=2/SID=w/TID=I019_82/l=IVI/SIG=15et4uajh/EXP=1110353754/*-http%3A//groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nJgAAALkKsat7LyLuyqkwUW3Gqdlz3OFDFg0FIXP*I TqT*PMZCOXuHNwyBnn*x0lZyaZZb2oZ13M

Somehow I thought she would have looked alot worse in the suit.

She would have been awful. WW doesn't have a big nose. Bullock looks way too girly.

[Antonello Blueberry]

Anto,

The reason why I suggested Manuela was because I saw her in "Mad Love" (also know as "Juana la Loca" in Spanish or "Giovanna la Pazza” in Itallian). Unless her voice was dubbed I thought she had a significant part in the movie.

I'm not sure, but I think she was dubbed in the Spanish version of "Juana La Loca". I know for sure that the Spanish voice of Daniele Liotti is not his voice.
And really, she has no range as an actress. But I don't like Monica Bellucci's acting too, while a lot of people here think she's a fine actress.

[dnno1]

I'm not sure, but I think she was dubbed in the Spanish version of "Juana La Loca". I know for sure that the Spanish voice of Daniele Liotti is not his voice.
And really, she has no range as an actress. But I don't like Monica Bellucci's acting too, while a lot of people here think she's a fine actress.

I am begining to think that it's all who you know and selling yourself here in Hollywood, Anto. I am not in the entertainment industry, so I really don't know for sure, but I have seen people like Arnold Swarzzenegger, Lou Ferrigno, and Dwayne (AKA "The Rock") Johnson make it with virtually no previous acting experience. The first two actors that I mentioned had their voices dubbed in their first movies -- Hercules In New York (Swarzzenegger) and Hercules/Ercole (Ferrigno). The Rock said nothing in his first movie, "The Mummy Returns", which he had a cameo apperance, but was surprizingly discovered and given additional filmwork. Arnold had only a couple of lines in the staring role of Conan in the movie "Conan the Barbarian" but was able to turn it into a two movie franchise.

In my opinion Monica Bellucci is just too old for the part of Wonder Woman -- she should be approaching 40 now. The thing about comic book characters is that they do not age (especially in the case of Wonder Woman, she is Immortal). I think that is why after 4 movies, Christopher Reeve had to hang it up as Superman -- I think I remember him saying on Jonny Carson once that "Superman is forever 30" and implied then that he would no longer be making those films. This is why whoever plays the role of Wonder Woman shoud be fairly young (like in their 20's). That way if it turns into a 3 or 4 movie franchise you could get about 6-10 years out of the actress before they start to look older.

Anyway, Monica had a bit part in two of the three Matrix films. Compared to Meryl Streep, she wasn't that good an actress, but I think her fans liker her more for her looks than her acting. I think it would be the same case for Manuela, but maybe you would know better since it sounds like you have some ties to the entertainment industry.

Dnno

[Fused]

You know what, looking at thsi pic, she might not have been that bad in the 90's if they had made the movie:

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Arban+Ornelas/v=2/SID=w/TID=I019_82/l=IVI/SIG=15et4uajh/EXP=1110353754/*-http%3A//groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nJgAAALkKsat7LyLuyqkwUW3Gqdlz3OFDFg0FIXP*I TqT*PMZCOXuHNwyBnn*x0lZyaZZb2oZ13M

Somehow I thought she would have looked alot worse in the suit.

I just about shot blood out of my nose when I realized who he was talking about.

[Red Mask]

Once again, I don't consider photo manipulations a great tool for casting.

[Aethea]

That is a nice Bullock pic, but the idiot wanted to trash the iconic costume. She did not know the first thing about Wondie.

[buggs0268]

WEll if that is the case Aethena, then that is true. But I have a feeling that Warners would have demanded classic costume.

[buggs0268]

I think that is why after 4 movies, Christopher Reeve had to hang it up as Superman -- I think I remember him saying on Jonny Carson once that "Superman is forever 30" and implied then that he would no longer be making those films.
Dnno[/QUOTE]

The real reason is that he got sued by Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio, who had written a spec script and had it registered with the Screen Writters guild, for s Superman movie. The script had Superman ridding the world of all of its nuclear weapeons, and placing them in a big metal net in space and hurling them at the sun. They had a meeting with Chris, but somehow they didnt get credit, and so they sued the Golan and Globus and Reeve. I forget the outcome of the case, but I know Reeve said at that point he would never do Superman again. So that was why he never did the character again. He didn;t ahve a problem with playing him up to that point. He was going to be in Supergirl, but the Salinds wanted to save money if I remember correctly, and wrote him out in one of the drafts. He did Supes 4 so he could make Street Smarts, but he was going to do Supes 5 as well, but while filming he got mad at Golan and Globus cheap filmmaking. He even told John Cryer mid way though the film that Golan and Globus didn't spend the money they originally said they wanted to, and he wasn;t too thrilled with the director, and he told him that the movie will be a stinker now that he was seeing how it was being made.

[dnno1]

Here is a pretty nice picture I found at the Comics2Film website.

http://comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art17631.JPG

It was done by a user named HulkSmash. I do not know who the woman is but I think the picture looks pretty good. Supposedly that is one of the original Lynda Carter outfits.

Dno

[pimpernel]

Here is a pretty nice picture I found at the Comics2Film website.

http://comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art17631.JPG

It was done by a user named HulkSmash. I do not know who the woman is but I think the picture looks pretty good. Supposedly that is one of the original Lynda Carter outfits.

Dno

Its Susan Ward...

http://tinypic.com/22kym9

Cute as hell but a really crap actress.

[zanos]

Alana De La Garza would be a great looking Wonder Woman. For the record she can act speak english and without an accent. I don't know what ppl are on when they start choosing actresses who don't even speak english or speak it properly.

http://www.alanadelagarza.com/respic1.jpghttp://www.alanadelagarza.com/respic2.jpg
http://www.alanadelagarza.com/respic4.jpghttp://www.alanadelagarza.com/respic3.jpg


http://www.thewb.com/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i62/TM-ADLGarza-A_2x3_240.jpg
http://www.he.com.pl/galeria/gpk/kobiety/84/84c.jpg

More at wireimage

http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=CLB&str=25519&styp=clbi&nm=Alana%20de%20la%20Garza&nbc1=1

[Aethea]

She looks nice, but can she act or is she just CRAP?

[Steelsheen]

someone said something about commanding presence

i'm starting to agree you're right. we keep forgetting that. WW in the animation is so distinct because the actresses that voice her does personify her as having a commanding presence, not just because she's an Amazon (height) or her beauty, but when she's there even if one doesnt see her you know a presence has entered a room. that's gonna be a little difficult to achieve since "presence" is more an innate characteristic and cant be easily faked. an example of women that has this elusively commanding presence are Catherine Zeta-Jones, Cate Blanchet, Katherine Hepburn, Dame Judi Dench-- their presence exudes from the screen. whoever should play WW should be the same. that's gonna be tough. its tricky enough to get a tall, striking woman who can act, but to have the commanding presence as well... wow. if they could find that lady, that would separate her from the rest of the pack.

[pimpernel]

Well i know two women that have a commanding presence. ;)

[Steelsheen]

Well i know two women that have a commanding presence. ;)
your wife and your mother-in-law?


*ducks*


j/k ;)

[zanos]

She looks nice, but can she act or is she just CRAP?

No she can act. I wouldn't choose her if there was something about her that would prevent her from doing the character, like the ability to speak english.

[Aethea]

That is another thing! Wonder Woman's race of Amazons should speak NO English. She should learn. I cannot believe that Singer is bringing back Marlon Brandon's Jor-el who can speak awesome English in Krypton. Who would have known that aliens in other dimensions speak English! Huge MISTAKE. HUGE. Wondie needs to have difficulty with English.

[Red Mask]

That is another thing! Wonder Woman's race of Amazons should speak NO English. She should learn. I cannot believe that Singer is bringing back Marlon Brandon's Jor-el who can speak awesome English in Krypton. Who would have known that aliens in other dimensions speak English! Huge MISTAKE. HUGE. Wondie needs to have difficulty with English.

Are you kidding? Having the Amazons speak ancient Greek is one thing, but Jor-el speakin Kryptonian is a headache! First it was the Tolkien fans speaking 'elvish', then came the Klingon speak, now we're giving Superman fans Kryptonian? Baa weep granna weep ninnybong!

[pimpernel]

Hehe... how about Diane Youdale...

http://tinypic.com/23jfw3

http://tinypic.com/23jfxv

http://tinypic.com/23jg29

http://tinypic.com/23jgoj

http://tinypic.com/23jgg8

???

She is only 35 now and she was a freakin' Gladiator so theres no question about her being in shape for the role. She hasn't acted much but she has acted. Since the show ended she has done various presenting gigs and had a few acting roles here and there. She has also spent a lot of time on stage doing musicals and pantomimes and plays and other stuff.. Besides all this she sometimes works as a psychotherapist and is a fitness trainer.

[pimpernel]

Lest we forget: bendy...

http://tinypic.com/23jjpc

[Lobo]

Yeah WW needs to be bendy :D :p

[Steelsheen]

Are you kidding? Having the Amazons speak ancient Greek is one thing, but Jor-el speakin Kryptonian is a headache! First it was the Tolkien fans speaking 'elvish', then came the Klingon speak, now we're giving Superman fans Kryptonian? Baa weep granna weep ninnybong!
LMAO!!! :D

[Steelsheen]

pimp! :eek:


:p :D

[pimpernel]

pimp! :eek:


:p :D

LOL is that good or bad? :p

[Steelsheen]

uh, for WW? bad. for some reason she reminds me of The Rock :p

[dnno1]

That is another thing! Wonder Woman's race of Amazons should speak NO English. She should learn. I cannot believe that Singer is bringing back Marlon Brandon's Jor-el who can speak awesome English in Krypton. Who would have known that aliens in other dimensions speak English! Huge MISTAKE. HUGE. Wondie needs to have difficulty with English.

I agree with Æthea on that point. The Amazons are from acient Greek mythos. According to an Minnesota State University article, the lands most connected to the Amazons are Libya, Thermiscrya on the Anatolia peninsula of modern day Turkey, and the Black Sea region of Eurasia (i.e. the Mediteranean see http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/aegean/amazons/amazonindex.html). Accepting this as fact, it would not be inappropriate to expect Amazonians to speak one of the laguages of that region (including Greek) as their native tounge, nor to expect an Amanzonian to speak English with an accent. The idea of a person calling themself an Amazon princess and then speaking perfect (American) English in my opinion is campy. It would add to the realism credibility of the character if they spoke with a foriegn accent, which goes back to the reason why I offered Manuela Arcuri as a candidate. Although she is not specifically from the regions I mentioned above, she does meet a lot of the criteria for the Wonder Woman Charater and would speak with a foriegn accent. Do not get me wrong. An actress like Cathrine Zeta Jones, Jennifer Connely, Alana De La, Garza, Tsianina Johnson, or even Suzan Ward should be qualified for the job, but we should not rule out a foriegner.

http://www.famousbabes.com/ManuelaArcuri/ma-prt.jpg
Manuella Arcuri


Dno

[pimpernel]

uh, for WW? bad. for some reason she reminds me of The Rock :p

Uh... you do realis physically she is more like WW than any actress ever mentioned? The only iffy thing about her is maybe her acting. ;)

[Steelsheen]

dude lots of actresses in this thread has been so physically perfect for WW. but that isnt why this thread grew 48 pages and has been merged into 5x already right? ;)

[pimpernel]

That is another thing! Wonder Woman's race of Amazons should speak NO English. She should learn. I cannot believe that Singer is bringing back Marlon Brandon's Jor-el who can speak awesome English in Krypton. Who would have known that aliens in other dimensions speak English! Huge MISTAKE. HUGE. Wondie needs to have difficulty with English.

I agree with Æthea on that point. The Amazons are from acient Greek mythos. According to an Minnesota State University article, the lands most connected to the Amazons are Libya, Thermiscrya on the Anatolia peninsula of modern day Turkey, and the Black Sea region of Eurasia.

Accepting this as fact, it would not be inappropriate to expect Amazonians to speak one of the laguages of that region (including Greek) as their native tounge, nor to expect an Amanzonian to speak English with an accent. The idea of a person calling themself an Amazon princess and then speaking perfect (American) English in my opinion is campy. It would add to the realism credibility of the character if they spoke with a foriegn accent, which goes back to the reason why I offered Manuela Arcuri as a candidate. Although she is not specifically from the regions I mentioned above, she does meet a lot of the criteria for the Wonder Woman Charater and would speak with a foriegn accent. Do not get me wrong. An actress like Cathrine Zeta Jones, Jennifer Connely, Alana De La, Garza, Tsianina Johnson, or even Suzan Ward should be qualified for the job, but we should not rule out a foriegner.


It seems i have to refute this every other week.

1) Yes the Amazons are vaguely based on the "historical" Amazons of Greek Myth. I stress the word vaguely.

2) That shouldn't matter when it comes to WW as she is made from clay and therefore wouldn't really have any specific ethnicity.

3) One of WW's "powers" is the ability to speak any language fluently and to perfectly adopt the appropriate dialect.

4) The Amazons in WW originally kept an eye on Man's World and were not ignorant of what went on there. They studied our history and languages and stuff... they built an invisible plane for god's sake... they weren't ignorant savages living blissfully unaware of the outside world... they know how to speak english.

5) Having the title character unable to speak english for the first half hour or so of the movie is just not an option. It sucked when Perez tried it in the comics and it will suck on screen.

6) Susan Ward will never be qualified to act in anything ever. Except maybe porn.

[Philly Phanboy]

The only iffy thing about her is maybe her acting. ;)

Simon votes NO!

http://newsfeed.tcm.ie/images/people/simoncowellAP.jpg

[pimpernel]

dude lots of actresses in this thread has been so physically perfect for WW. but that isnt why this thread grew 48 pages and has been merged into 5x already right? ;)

No they haven't. Whenever someone with a good look is posted here they always get the same response: they would be great but they would need to tone up some. Most of the actresses here are good looking and curvy and fit... but not as toned and buff as Diane. The fact is in reality WW would look kinda buff. More buff than your average actress is prepared to get. A lot of actresses measure up in terms of the face and the curves... but not the face and the curves and the buffness.

Just saying. ;)

[dnno1]

It seems i have to refute this every other week.

1) Yes the Amazons are vaguely based on the "historical" Amazons of Greek Myth. I stress the word vaguely.

2) That shouldn't matter when it comes to WW as she is made from clay and therefore wouldn't really have any specific ethnicity.

3) One of WW's "powers" is the ability to speak any language fluently and to perfectly adopt the appropriate dialect.

4) The Amazons in WW originally kept an eye on Man's World and were not ignorant of what went on there. They studied our history and languages and stuff... they built an invisible plane for god's sake... they weren't ignorant savages living blissfully unaware of the outside world... they know how to speak english.

5) Having the title character unable to speak english for the first half hour or so of the movie is just not an option. It sucked when Perez tried it in the comics and it will suck on screen.

6) Susan Ward will never be qualified to act in anything ever. Except maybe porn.

First of all to say that Amazons in the Wonder Woman continuum is vaguely based on the Greek mythos is a gross misrepresentation of the facts. Many of the Wonder Woman tales cite a historic correlation to those in Greek mythology. For instance the fact that Hercules encountered the Amazons coresponds to the Greek mythos from Hercules labors.

Secondly, ethnicity has nothing to do with race (which is what I think you are trying to imply) but has everything to do with your affiliation. Diana, Princess of Themycira, is an Amazon. In spite of how she was created and how she looks (which to me looks Mediteranean), she grew up Amazonian and most likely adopted their cultural values and beliefs.

Lastly -- and this should cover talking points 3-6 -- I never said anything about Wonder Woman not being able to speak English. I only said that it would give her character more credibility if she spoke it with a foriegn accent. What is perfect and appropriate dialect anyway? Does that mean she speaks with a New York accent when she is in the Bronx and with a twang when she is in Texas? Don't be silly. That's camp. I will leave it up to the script writers as to wether or not they want to include a scene where the Amazons speak in their native tounge or not. It did work in Star Wars and in some other movies by the way. I will not comment on Susan Ward since she is 5'4" and really not my choice for Wonder Woman (It was a nice picture though).

http://comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art17631TN.jpg
Susan Ward

Dno

[zanos]

If you want to listen to Wonder Woman speak in a spanish accent for 2 hours I suggest you buy the dvd when it comes out and change the audio track. I can't think of anything more annoying then watching WW speak in broken english with a heavy latin accent. I'm not watching a Jackie Chan movie here. Geez what the hell are some of you ppl thinking.

[Red Mask]

dude lots of actresses in this thread has been so physically perfect for WW. but that isnt why this thread grew 48 pages and has been merged into 5x already right? ;)

Many of the suggested actresses aren't physically fit enough nor facially exotic enough to be Wonder Woman. Unless you mean the WW drawn by Howard Porter. Plain Janes!

[pimpernel]

First of all to say that Amazons in the Wonder Woman continuum is vaguely based on the Greek mythos is a gross misrepresentation of the facts. Many of the Wonder Woman tales cite a historic correlation to those in Greek mythology. For instance the fact that Hercules encountered the Amazons coresponds to the Greek mythos from Hercules labors.

Do i need to explain the term "vaguely based on" to you? Yes Hercules encountered the Amazons one time... but not in the way that he does in WW... plus Hera did not intervene to save them from all from being massacred... plus the "real" Amazons were not transported to some magical island paradise... plus i doubt they were made from clay animated by the souls of oppressed women.

And you say that WW's stories often cite historic correlations to Greek myth... again yes... but very loosely. Look at the recent storyline with WW blinding herself while fighting Medusa... Medusa died centuries ago in Greek Mythology.

You really can't comment on this til you have read the Golden Age Wonder Woman. The new movie will obviously be aimed at the general public... the general public only know WW through the TV show... the TV show is based squarely on GA WW... expect the movie folks to incorporate a lot of that stuff into the new movie... they have to or they will estrange most of their audience.

The fact is that WW's Amazons have very little to do with the historical Amazons. It is widely acknowledged that William Marston only very loosely based his Amazons in Greek myth. Thats why they all still have two boobies for instance. :p

The Modern Age WW constantly retcons things to try and tie them into Greek myth more and more... but they are still only loosly connected.

Secondly, ethnicity has nothing to do with race (which is what I think you are trying to imply) but has everything to do with your affiliation. Diana, Princess of Themycira, is an Amazon. In spite of how she was created and how she looks (which to me looks Mediteranean), she grew up Amazonian and most likely adopted their cultural values and beliefs.

I know that... i was making a pre-emptive strike cos i know how this works... its only a matter of time before someone starts saying she needs to have an exotic olive complexion or should look "Greek" or whatever. Believe me i've been around here long enough to know... that argument pops up every couple of weeks along with the accent and the language stuff.

Lastly -- and this should cover talking points 3-6 -- I never said anything about Wonder Woman not being able to speak English. I only said that it would give her character more credibility if she spoke it with a foriegn accent. What is perfect and appropriate dialect anyway? Does that mean she speaks with a New York accent when she is in the Bronx and with a twang when she is in Texas? Don't be silly. That's camp. I will leave it up to the script writers as to wether or not they want to include a scene where the Amazons speak in their native tounge or not. It did work in Star Wars and in some other movies by the way.

It means she would speak with the same kind of regionless "transatlantic" accent that most American film stars used to use back in the day. A blank accent that can't be associated with any one state... the type of accent Natalie Portman tried (badly) to adopt in the Phantom Menace.

Of course she is gonna speak Greek while she is on Paradise Island... but while she is in the states or in the presence of Steve Trevor she is gonna have to speak english. There is so much to be crammed into a WW film that you can't have her spend half an hour or so learning english... it kills the story dead.

[CConn]

That is another thing! Wonder Woman's race of Amazons should speak NO English. She should learn. I cannot believe that Singer is bringing back Marlon Brandon's Jor-el who can speak awesome English in Krypton. Who would have known that aliens in other dimensions speak English! Huge MISTAKE. HUGE. Wondie needs to have difficulty with English.I never liked that the animals talked in the Jungle Book, myself. :o

[phoenixstorm]

I have the perfect Choice! The actress who played the first Dax on Deep Space Nine!!! I have to go find her name.

[dpm07]

I have the perfect Choice! The actress who played the first Dax on Deep Space Nine!!! I have to go find her name.

Terry Farrell is who you're thinking of. I always liked her as well as Dax on DS9. Shes's 6' and does have the physicality and is a fair actress. However, she's also pretty long in the tooth at 41 years old. So it's doubtful anyone would viably consider her for the role. Besides, she doesn't have the kind of star power that youth brings, and could put people in the seats.

[dnno1]

Do i need to explain the term "vaguely based on" to you? Yes Hercules encountered the Amazons one time... but not in the way that he does in WW... plus Hera did not intervene to save them from all from being massacred... plus the "real" Amazons were not transported to some magical island paradise... plus i doubt they were made from clay animated by the souls of oppressed women.
The term "vague" means "not clear" so when you say that WW is vaguely based on Greek mythology it actually means "not clearly" based, which it think is not true. It is clearly based on Greek mythology (although there have been deviations to suit the writers needs through the years). What I am trying to say here is that using the term "vaguely" leaves the reader to believe that it really has nothing to do with Greek mythology when it does. To prove my point, I will cite two web site which actually use the phrase "Wonder Woman was based on Greek mythology": The Wonder Woman Archives (http://www.kenpiercebooks.com/ww.htm) and Lambiek.net (http://www.lambiek.net/peter-hg.htm).

You really can't comment on this til you have read the Golden Age Wonder Woman. The new movie will obviously be aimed at the general public... the general public only know WW through the TV show... the TV show is based squarely on GA WW... expect the movie folks to incorporate a lot of that stuff into the new movie... they have to or they will estrange most of their audience.
Just for you information, I have read some Golden Age Wonder Woman stories back in the late 1970's (from a book that, I think, was called the “The Golden Age of Comic Books”) and I found them sort of silly. The later (Silver Age) stories that I read when I was a kid (i.e. the ones that were written since the 70's), and in particular since the George Perez era, were a lot better.

I do not think that the majority of the general public really knows about Wonder Woman outside of what is shown on Cartoon Network, which does not speak much about her origins, and those of you who read the comics. My definition of the general movie going public is in the age range of 12-44 which makes up about 63% of movie goers according to a 2001 Newspaper Association of America (NAA) report (see demographics table http://www.naa.org/artpage.cfm?AID=1690&SID=1108). Even though the 1970's TV series ran in syndication, I still do not think the majority of that demographic has seen it (I just showed season 1 DVD to my 5, 6, and 7 year olds two months ago). The people who might have seen it back in the 70's and early 80's would be in the 35-50 year age group, which makes up 37% of movie goers. Also keep in mind that according to a Washinton post article, the majority of Wonder Woman fans are adult males (see Wonder Woman's Powers http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29691-2001Apr17).

My kids liked the Wonder Woman DVD. They thought that the things she did were cool. But as a 43 year old man looking at the 90 minute movie (the original pilot), I realized it was quite campy. The idea of a grown woman walking around downtown Washington DC in a bathing suit does not sound very practical for then (circa 1942), and even now. It was that kind of camp that curbed the box office returns on the fourth Batman movie ("Batman and Robin"). You notice that they are not going the same direction for this next installment. I think the same fate will be seen if Wonder Woman portrays the same kind of camp that it did in the TV series. Today the general movie going public wants more realism, and I think that being able to present things in a more credible fashion will help this movie (if it ever comes into being) to be more successful.

Dno

[dnno1]

You know another person who would have been a good candidate 10 years ago would have been Rachel McLish. She is 46 now but she stlill is in very good shape. Another unfortunate thing is that she is 5'5" which probably eliminates her anyway.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:65onTw0RZpIJ:www.musculardevelopment. com/june98/mclish1.jpg
Rachel McLish

Dno

[pimpernel]

The term "vague" means "not clear" so when you say that WW is vaguely based on Greek mythology it actually means "not clearly" based, which it think is not true. It is clearly based on Greek mythology (although there have been deviations to suit the writers needs through the years). What I am trying to say here is that using the term "vaguely" leaves the reader to believe that it really has nothing to do with Greek mythology when it does. To prove my point, I will cite two web site which actually use the phrase "Wonder Woman was based on Greek mythology": The Wonder Woman Archives (http://www.kenpiercebooks.com/ww.htm) and Lambiek.net (http://www.lambiek.net/peter-hg.htm).


Just for you information, I have read some Golden Age Wonder Woman stories back in the late 1970's (from a book that, I think, was called the “The Golden Age of Comic Books”) and I found them sort of silly. The later (Silver Age) stories that I read when I was a kid (i.e. the ones that were written since the 70's), and in particular since the George Perez era, were a lot better.

I do not think that the majority of the general public really knows about Wonder Woman outside of what is shown on Cartoon Network, which does not speak much about her origins, and those of you who read the comics. My definition of the general movie going public is in the age range of 12-44 which makes up about 63% of movie goers according to a 2001 Newspaper Association of America (NAA) report (see demographics table http://www.naa.org/artpage.cfm?AID=1690&SID=1108). Even though the 1970's TV series ran in syndication, I still do not think the majority of that demographic has seen it (I just showed season 1 DVD to my 5, 6, and 7 year olds two months ago). The people who might have seen it back in the 70's and early 80's would be in the 35-50 year age group, which makes up 37% of movie goers. Also keep in mind that according to a Washinton post article, the majority of Wonder Woman fans are adult males (see Wonder Woman's Powers http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29691-2001Apr17).

My kids liked the Wonder Woman DVD. They thought that the things she did were cool. But as a 43 year old man looking at the 90 minute movie (the original pilot), I realized it was quite campy. The idea of a grown woman walking around downtown Washington DC in a bathing suit does not sound very practical for then (circa 1942), and even now. It was that kind of camp that curbed the box office returns on the fourth Batman movie ("Batman and Robin"). You notice that they are not going the same direction for this next installment. I think the same fate will be seen if Wonder Woman portrays the same kind of camp that it did in the TV series. Today the general movie going public wants more realism, and I think that being able to present things in a more credible fashion will help this movie (if it ever comes into being) to be more successful.

Dno

1) You are being very pedantic. I never said that WW had nothing to do with the Amazons of history... stop trying to twist my words... i said she is only vaguely based on the and i stick by that. The only similarities they share are a) the name Amazons and b) a meeting of some kind with Hercules. They are more "loosely inspired by" than "based on" them.

2) All Golden Age comics were "sort of silly" because they were aimed at kids and the level of writing back then in comics wasn't very sophisticated... but WW was actually way better than most. As a concept GA WW works much better than the modern version. The GA WW has the secret identity, the love interest, the good explanation for her costume, the good reason for doing what she does etc etc... the Modern Age WW is a mess in comparison. The modern version has more sophisticated stories in terms of writing and plotting... but if you applied that level of writing and plotting to the original GA concept the results would far surpass the drivel being churned out today. With a few minor exceptions the GA concept was better and sounder.

3) Let me clarify about the general public: they don't know much of anything about WW... but the little they do know is derived straight from the TV show... which is based on the GA character.

4) The TV series is deliberately camp... but do not make the mistake of thinking that is the only way a faithful version of WW can be done. Look at Spider-Man or Superman... both have costumes every bit as ridiculous as Wonder Woman and both pull off good serious movies effortlessly. WW can do it too and frankly its a tired and lame argument to suggest the character will do badly or be considered crap cos she wears "a bathing suit" or whatever. If the writing is good and the story is compelling and the characters engaging then she could walk around dressed as a tomato and people would buy it.

It comes down to what Tim Burton said when doing Batman: the environment has to fit the character. A guy in a rubber bat suit walking down Fifth Avenue in broad daylight is gonna look ridiculous and stand out no matter what... but if you put him in Gotham at night he blends in and looks like he belongs there. Same principle with Wonder Woman. You have to find a visual style for the movie that fits the character... like Spider-Man's saturated colour-pallette maybe... and go with it.

Plus frankly Lynda Carter's costume was cheap and any cheap costume is gonna look bad. A well made and expertly fitted version of the costume with muted colours will rock.

[Red Mask]

Wonder Woman no longer needs a secret identity. What does she have to hide?

[pimpernel]

Read The Spirit Of Truth and you will see why she needs a secret identity. Running around in a primary-coloured bathing suit all day draws attention to her and closes certain doors. The secret identity allows her to fly under the radar (so to speak) and accomplish more than she could as WW. It also means she can turn off all the attention and pressure now and then and dispense with the media circus that surrounds WW.

Plus the costume means people are constantly confronted by WW the icon... which sets her apart from us mere mortals... it places her on a pedestal. Superman tells her in that book that he wears his disquise so that he can see things from the perspective of the general public and thereby better understand how to help them... that is another reason for Diana Prince.

The secret identity adds a lot to the character. It humanises her and gives her several issues to deal with. I read an interview with one of her writers last week (i forget which one) and he said that WW herself has no real issues so you can't really relate to her... thats one of the big problems with the current incarnation.

Besides all of this there is one very good reason: its how the character was created and written for something like forty years. That IS the character. I said it before and i'll say it again: what Perez did in the eighties was like killing off both Lois Lane and Clark Kent in one go... the Superman fans wouldn't stand for it and the only reason so many people are complacent about what was done to WW is that most people aren't really fans anyways and couldn't give a toss. The new version of the character may have more sophisticated writing but frankly the whole set-up of her being an ambassador and having no Steve Trevor or secret identity just sucks ass. If i wanna read about a superhero-cum-celebrity i'll go read Fantastic Four.

[Red Mask]

In the last Flash comic Wally said the JLA doesn't see her as human. So what difference does it make anyway? If the audience can't connect with her from the deeds she performs as Wonder Woman, then I see little reason to understand her through a disguise. Diana doesn't have to wear the costume everywhere she goes. But if she should hide who she is and her culture, then how can she promote her sister's beliefs honestly?

[pimpernel]

You can't connect emotionally with someone purely through their deeds... especially not someone like WW. How the hell do you empathise or identify with someone that is a god compared to you? You can't even begin to. You've gotta get into their head and their heart to. You've gotta find common ground. You can't just have her be some holier-than-tho messianic figure that is all about teaching the world love and enlightenment... you can't connect with that. Its like with Superman... every writer understands that the only way to write Superman effectively is to approach him through his feelings and his relationships with those he cares for... WW needs that too.

Its not a matter of hiding who she is and her culture... its a matter of not drawing attention to herself every single moment of the day. As Wonder Woman she is all about the message and thats fine... but there are many times when subtlety is the best tack and she can't do that running around in her skimpies with a big sign on her head saying superhero.

Besides this every time she openly strikes up a friendship or relationship with anyone as WW she puts that person in mortal danger. No responsible superhero would ever do that... thats why secret identities were invented in the first place.

Like i said tho even if you choose to ignore all those reasons there is still one very good reason that you can't sweep aside: thats who the character is. For forty-something years she was Wonder Woman aka Diana Prince... and Steve Trevor was her love interest. No matter what crap DC has pulled since that is still the popular and enduring perception of WW and since dispensing of those aspects everyone agrees that WW is a mess... its the one thing i read time and again in reviews and interviews.

Bottom line is the character just works better with that stuff.

[Red Mask]

Times change, pimpernel. They've changed for many DC characters. There's a bigger gap for Wonder Woman, but even her fellow Leaguers have changed since the Silver Age. But I've never been deeply drawn in to any of the DC heroes' secret identities. Most of their secret lives were convenient disguises which were just that - convenient disguises. Ditching the Diana Prince persona didn't lose any appeal for me. These days fans think she should be with Superman because they're both powerful so should click better together. (I don't agree.) I liked the DC heroes because of their deeds as superheroes. That's one of few things I like about the Justice League cartoons. They deal with the crisis at hand, not their personal lives. But with the recent identity crises, especially Batman, it's any wonder how they can be effective. If you can't keep your house in order you can't be of use outside of it.

It's amusing that you criticize WW as just being a holier-than-thou figure because that's how I generally see the Justice League of America. They're so powerful they're a pantheon unto themselves. Some of them even believe their legacies should remain within a family. But the World accepts them because they are the heroes. No matter what they'd save my life regardless of how I choose to face peril. America obviously needs them because they've got the dumbest Americans in comics. (They even voted Lex Luthor for president, damn it.) What the JLA do as civilians makes no difference to me. I can find others for that. To read about the impossible and bold adventures, that why I read DC's comics. The costume is the trademark, the costume is the character. As long as they keep it fun, I'll read it.

Now Vertigo, that is a line-up all to itself. :up:

[pimpernel]

I think you are missing the point but we should probably just agree to disagree. :p

[dnno1]

Times change, pimpernel. They've changed for many DC characters. There's a bigger gap for Wonder Woman, but even her fellow Leaguers have changed since the Silver Age. But I've never been deeply drawn in to any of the DC heroes' secret identities. Most of their secret lives were convenient disguises which were just that - convenient disguises. Ditching the Diana Prince persona didn't lose any appeal for me. These days fans think she should be with Superman because they're both powerful so should click better together. (I don't agree.) I liked the DC heroes because of their deeds as superheroes. That's one of few things I like about the Justice League cartoons. They deal with the crisis at hand, not their personal lives. But with the recent identity crises, especially Batman, it's any wonder how they can be effective. If you can't keep your house in order you can't be of use outside of it.

It's amusing that you criticize WW as just being a holier-than-thou figure because that's how I generally see the Justice League of America. They're so powerful they're a pantheon unto themselves. Some of them even believe their legacies should remain within a family. But the World accepts them because they are the heroes. No matter what they'd save my life regardless of how I choose to face peril. America obviously needs them because they've got the dumbest Americans in comics. (They even voted Lex Luthor for president, damn it.) What the JLA do as civilians makes no difference to me. I can find others for that. To read about the impossible and bold adventures, that why I read DC's comics. The costume is the trademark, the costume is the character. As long as they keep it fun, I'll read it.

Now Vertigo, that is a line-up all to itself. :up:

If Wonder Woman truly existed in real life, I believe that there would be people and governents that would want to detain her and try to experiment on her. Some would even try to breed a race or an army of super men. There would even be selfish billionares who would want to marry her. I think that these are issues that should be considered when writing a script for a movie like this. Her enemies would not necessisarily be gods and super villians but selfish meniacle potentates. This rationale could justify the need for a secret identity.

Dno

[Steelsheen]

Read The Spirit Of Truth and you will see why she needs a secret identity. Running around in a primary-coloured bathing suit all day draws attention to her and closes certain doors. The secret identity allows her to fly under the radar (so to speak) and accomplish more than she could as WW. It also means she can turn off all the attention and pressure now and then and dispense with the media circus that surrounds WW.
same reason why Superman also has a secret identity-- why most sueprheroes has a secret ID for that matter. i think the only guy where this isnt applicable is Batman (but then Batman isnt your typical superhero either ;)).

[terry78]

Catherine Bell, as mentioned before.

http://www.stuffmagazine.com/girls/catherine_bell/catherine_bell_l9.jpg

[Aethea]

Yes. Catherine. She has attributes. How about TALENT?

[Hunter Rider]

Yes. Catherine. She has attributes. How about TALENT?

yes

[Red Mask]

If Wonder Woman truly existed in real life, I believe that there would be people and governents that would want to detain her and try to experiment on her. Some would even try to breed a race or an army of super men. There would even be selfish billionares who would want to marry her. I think that these are issues that should be considered when writing a script for a movie like this. Her enemies would not necessisarily be gods and super villians but selfish meniacle potentates. This rationale could justify the need for a secret identity.

Dno

Wonder Woman knows how to protect herself. But you don't need Wonder Woman to tell a story about a super strong woman who flies an invisible jet and secretly loves a soldier. That idea better suits a female Captain America, or a variation of Ms. Marvel.

[pimpernel]

Wonder Woman knows how to protect herself. But you don't need Wonder Woman to tell a story about a super strong woman who flies an invisible jet and secretly loves a soldier. That idea better suits a female Captain America, or a variation of Ms. Marvel.

Have you actually ever read a Wonder Woman comic? Cos from your comments it doesn't seem that way.

[dnno1]

Catherine Bell, as mentioned before.

http://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/36867226
Cathrine Bell

Catherine Bell plays Major Sarah "Mac" MacKenzie on CBS's military-court drama JAG, which at one time was on the Top 20 Nielsen list as one of the most watched shows in North America.

She does not seem to be a bad choice. At 5'10" she definitely has the height. As far as acting, it seems that in her bio she has been acting from when she was a child --doing mostly TV ads -- (take note that her mother who is her personal assistant is Iranian). The only drawback is that she is 37 years old, which would mean if she were to play the part she would have to do it now so that she would be 40 by the time they do a sequel. But aside from that if you're going to consider Cathrine Zeta Jones Or Jenifer Connley, Cathrine Bell should definitely, in my book, be considered a good candidate.

Dno

[Heartbreak Kid]

Hey, first post.
My 2 cents
NO ONE over 30 years old. Period.
NO One with small boobs.Full C minimum. Period.
May not be PC but it's you all's thinkin'

This movie needs an unknown more than Superman did.
A modern WW would be a babe in the woods all naive and ****. She just wouldn't play the same bull**** games North American chicks do. She would be more like a guy. Not masculine, but not all about headgames. Little girls would love her, but grown women would hate her guts. She's too perfect. Women Hate each other. That's why they don't run the world. Not cuz they lack skills, but chicks hate and backstab each other all the time at all ages in all strata of society, so making it a big feminist thing would suck too cuz you'd lose have your audience and it would be preachy. The thing needs a conflict, driving force that WW lacks. Mutants are hated and feared, Spidey driven by guilt, Bats parents gunned downed etc.
WW "mission" is not her own so it does not ring true. I have some thoughts onthat but I would first like to know what y'all think so far.

[pimpernel]

I think you don't have a clue about WW.

[Steelsheen]

Hey, first post.
My 2 cents
NO ONE over 30 years old. Period.
NO One with small boobs.Full C minimum. Period.
May not be PC but it's you all's thinkin'

This movie needs an unknown more than Superman did.
A modern WW would be a babe in the woods all naive and ****. She just wouldn't play the same bull**** games North American chicks do. She would be more like a guy. Not masculine, but not all about headgames. Little girls would love her, but grown women would hate her guts. She's too perfect. Women Hate each other. That's why they don't run the world. Not cuz they lack skills, but chicks hate and backstab each other all the time at all ages in all strata of society, so making it a big feminist thing would suck too cuz you'd lose have your audience and it would be preachy. The thing needs a conflict, driving force that WW lacks. Mutants are hated and feared, Spidey driven by guilt, Bats parents gunned downed etc.
WW "mission" is not her own so it does not ring true. I have some thoughts onthat but I would first like to know what y'all think so far.

geez dude where do you live? do you have any women there in Backwater USA? or is all your women knowledege based on Who Wants to Marry A Miilionaire? :rolleyes:

[dnno1]

Back on the the subject of Cathrine Bell. Do you know who kind of looks like her???? Cindy Margolis. If you died her hair you could swear she was her sister.

http://crud.net/%7Esoyfu/bin/catherine_bell/tn/catherine_bell_02.CROPtop.jpg______ http://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/274836363
Cathrine Bell ____________Cindy Margolas

Another thing I noticed is that Cathrine has a tatoo on he ankle. Should that be a disqualifier?

Dno

[Steelsheen]

Another thing I noticed is that Cathrine has a tatoo on he ankle. Should that be a disqualifier?
that could easily be covered up with a bit of make-up.

buti still dont like Bell for WW. heck i could hardly stand her in JAG.

[terry78]

Whatever, you know we all have relatives that think like Heartbreak Kid.:p

The irony of getting someone that can act would be that most of those women would be well known, and the consensus is that we want someone more unknown, whose acting skills could more than likely be spotty at best.

[pimpernel]

There are lots of beautiful unknown stage actresses.

[pimpernel]

For instance...

http://www.playbill.com/images/photos/kelly1_1086874602.jpg
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/mugk/kelly_laura-michelle.jpg

Laura Michelle Kelly aka Mary Poppins. :p

[Red Mask]

Have you actually ever read a Wonder Woman comic? Cos from your comments it doesn't seem that way.

Of course I have, silly. None of those elements seem important anymore. Wonder Woman can fly on her own now. She looks better that way. In fact, having an invisible plane would have been a serious problem because how does she avoid things like bird catch and safely storing it near her American residence? You can't just keep it in the woods or on the roof. If a similar heroine was part of the U.S. airforce the plane can be stowed away safely. The plane could be explained as being an advanced stealth fighter. Also, the heroine would have a rank that she earned and better reason to keep seeing a guy like Steve Trevor each day. If Diana was just a flower shop owner she has fewer chances of being with Steve. Even if she worked at a private airstrip and Steve was a private pilot she'd be discovered. Also, if she assumed an identity in the military background checks would still be performed on her, which leads to red flags. Brainwashing those people with a lasso eventually becomes ambiguous each time that happens. So unless guys like Steve already know Diana is Wonder Woman, and she officially joins the U.S. military, keeping that identity is ineffective. The modern age Wonder Woman is less constricted in her adventures.

[Heartbreak Kid]

Well, first off, I'm in Canada, not the US (we canucks are touchy about that) and secondly, I am new to these boards, but not new to dating, sleeping with or actually interacting with women. So the question for you is not do they have women where YOU are, but have you any experience socially with them where they don't just think of you as a friend.

And also, as a new poster, I am more familiar with when you say something someone disagrees with, we don't just saw "You're wrong" and that's it. I thought the point was to dicuss these topics and actually present points of view with reasons behind them.

That said, do you think WW should be a 45 year old flat chested chick, but 'she can really emote'?

[portland2002]

Hey, first post.
My 2 cents
NO ONE over 30 years old. Period.
NO One with small boobs.Full C minimum. Period.
May not be PC but it's you all's thinkin'

This movie needs an unknown more than Superman did.
A modern WW would be a babe in the woods all naive and ****. She just wouldn't play the same bull**** games North American chicks do. She would be more like a guy. Not masculine, but not all about headgames. Little girls would love her, but grown women would hate her guts. She's too perfect. Women Hate each other. That's why they don't run the world. Not cuz they lack skills, but chicks hate and backstab each other all the time at all ages in all strata of society, so making it a big feminist thing would suck too cuz you'd lose have your audience and it would be preachy. The thing needs a conflict, driving force that WW lacks. Mutants are hated and feared, Spidey driven by guilt, Bats parents gunned downed etc.
WW "mission" is not her own so it does not ring true. I have some thoughts onthat but I would first like to know what y'all think so far.

Interesting POV. But I've found from my experience, that men hate and backstab each other also.

I had disassociate myself from a former friend of mine, because he was a manipulative, malicious and calculating person who loved pitting people against each other. I think there are plenty of women who would make great leaders in the world.

I'd like to see some in their early twenties (such as Tsianina Joelsen), early thirties (Jennifer Connelly) mid-thirties (Catherine Zeta-Jones) or early forties (Monica Bellucci) as WW.

I think a feminist perspective could work in the film without being preachy; subtext could greatly convey the idea of WW's pursuit of equality between the genders. WW could also represent an avatar for peace, acting as an ambassador from Themyscera to prevent a global thermonuclear war perpetuated by the Greek deity Ares.

The conflict could simply be anti-war vs. pro-war (WW vs. Ares). That could be the core struggle, similar to Xavier's and Magneto's being peaceful coexistence vs. militant undertaking.

WW's a great character and I believe with the right script, director and cast, it could be translated well to the silver screen and be certifiable hit; at least as much as the first X-Men film ($157 million domestically) and possibly surpassing the gross for the first Batman film ($250 million domestically).

It could be even more of a mega-hit, but I think if executed correctly, a high probability exists that W will be the dawn of a new franchise for Warner Brothers. WW is one of the most recognizable superheroes worldwide; she's as iconic as Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Captain America and the Hulk.

[Heartbreak Kid]

Good points Portland 2002, gotta disagree with a few parts.

Of course men backstab, I'm not trying to be all inclusive. Most guys with screw you to your face, though, chicks do it more behind your back and even more so to other women. When the average girl looks at another one, if the other is prettier, they tend to try and find a flaw. This is true. ask your wife/girlfriend sister etc.

And I never said A woman could not be a good leader. I'm talking a lot of women. See, get the senate, Mostly guys, a few women. Reverse that. (sure there are some bad male senators, not the point) A Large group of women do not get on that well, very often. For guys, if you have a fight, even a fist fight with a friend, after its over, you can have a beer and relax, cuz its out and dealt with. Girls hold ten year grudges over minor things.
Women tend to be, generally speaking, ruled by their emotions and do not make as many decisions based on logic, rather how they are in the moment.
No matter how much you like or admire a woman, I'm willing to bet the best boss you ever had was a guy. I love women and their are lots of women who are probably stronger or smarter or richer or whatever than me. But as a sex women excel at different things than guys. Not sexist, not a PC opinion, but its demonstrated everyday.

Yes there are exceptions to every rule, but we as a society deal with the majority of things not the way the tiny minority behaves. Yes there are men who are astronauts, but that doesn't mean all guys could be astronauts. Y'see what I'm driving at?

(and by minority, I am not refering to racial minority's so let's not start barking up that tree)

I don't think WW's mission should be equality, I think she needs a driving force. Her mission holds no immediacy for me. What exactly is she doing? it's rather unclear.

I have some thoughts...

[haephestus]

My #1 choice would be Lucy Lawless (aka Xena: Warrior Princess).

Anyone who watched Xena consistently would be aware that not only does Lucy Lawless have the physical presence, but she's also pretty talented at drama, comedy and action (all aspects of the Xena character).

BUT, she's also lost a lot of weight since Xena ended (and quite a lot during the final two seasons of the show, excluding the pregnancy of course).

And she's an older actress. No doubt the WD would be hoping for a trilogy of films to really rake in the big bucks. I don't see them going with an older, more mature and established Wonder Woman to do that. They would probably cast someone younger who will be around for the next 6-10 years.

And there is the very obvious negative reaction to Lucy Lawless being cast. If she did well, people would say its because she's just stereo-typed and was just playing Xena again, and of course many people still have the (incorrect) impression that she's hugely muscled, masculine and has the acting ability of a wooden door.

Of course, Joss Whedon has said a couple of times that he greatly admired "Xena: Warrior Princess" and that he thought it was a very under-rated show and deserved more praise, so you never know.

Ideally, I would like to see Lucy Lawless either cast as Hippolyta or as an older Wonder Woman who must pass along her mantle (or who dies in battle, hence the passing of the mantle).

So if Lucy Lawless cannot be the "main" Wonder Woman, then I'd probably look to Charisma Carpenter. Not sure on her height, but on Buffy and Angel she proved herself to adept at drama, comedy and to an extent on Angel action as well. She's also incredibly attractive and having posed in Playboy I don't think she'd balk at having to wear a tiny costume for the part. And she has a connection to Joss Whedon (though that could work against her if the rumours behind her sudden dissapearance from Angel are to be believed).

If not Charisma, then Tsiania Joelson (sp?) is also a good choice, except the actress is currently pregnant. Doesn't rule her out though. Also not sure on her height, but she is very athletic. Also not sure on her acting ability, she was okay as Varia: Queen of the Amazons on Xena, but wasn't that compelling to watch (apart from the fact she was dressed in a fur bikini).

Like Jennifer Connelly if she put on some weight/muscle, but unlikely because of the age factor.

Would have really liked to see Kate Bosworth in the role, but now she's Lois Lane so looks unlikely.

Maybe an unknown, much like they did with Superman is the way to go. Either way, with Joss Whedon writing and directing it should be worth a look at regardless of who is eventually cast.

[tatedonovan]

http://www.diane-kruger.net/gallery/albums/36/gqgermany-001.jpg
http://www.diane-kruger.net/gallery/albums/232/hq001.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/troy/diane_kruger/troypres.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/troy/diane_kruger/veil.jpg

[dnno1]

...do you think WW should be a 45 year old flat chested chick, but 'she can really emote'? I will try to answer your question by using a quote from William Moulton Marston:

"Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. . . . The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

-- Marston, 1943

What is your idea of a beautiful woman? First of all, before I attempt to answer this question, I will state that according to a Washinton Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29691-2001Apr17), Wonder Woman fans tend to be adult and mostly male, though the female segment tends to be vocal (as you can see on this board). Surprizingly, the most loyal Wonder Woman fans are gay men.

I think that what most men want in an ideal woman is first and foremost beauty. If you look at popular women in america you will see that a beautiful woman has the 36-24-36 (coke bottle) type figure, is or appears to be very young, and has her hormones active. That's what sells here in Hollywood. As a woman in television gets older, they tend to kick them to the curb. Notice how most news ancor women are young and quite attractive. Very seldom do you see them with gray hair and wrinkles. On the big screen you will notice the types of parts they choose and the roles they play as they get older. Jennifer Connely played sexy teen fav. roles when she was younger. Now shes in roles that are up for academy award nominations.

I can not speak for women (who make up 51 pecent of movie goers) and what they like but they are more than welocome to give their opinion. Of course this opinion differs in other countries. In Latin America the women on TV all seem to be young, sexy and curvy. I don't know what people like in Canada. I think the type of person that will be playing Wonder Woman should correspond to what her potential movie going market sees in an ideal woman, but yet also meet the ideals set forth by William Moulton Marston.

Dno

[Steelsheen]

Well, first off, I'm in Canada, not the US (we canucks are touchy about that) and secondly, I am new to these boards, but not new to dating, sleeping with or actually interacting with women. So the question for you is not do they have women where YOU are, but have you any experience socially with them where they don't just think of you as a friend.

And also, as a new poster, I am more familiar with when you say something someone disagrees with, we don't just saw "You're wrong" and that's it. I thought the point was to dicuss these topics and actually present points of view with reasons behind them.

That said, do you think WW should be a 45 year old flat chested chick, but 'she can really emote'?
i know you're new, and i apologize if i seem to come down too hard on you, but i did base my perception of you on your post that i quoted, and guy or girl, from whichever country you're from, your post comes across as "sexist" and "moronic". so dont be surprised that the reaction that followed is as such, as perhaps you have already seen with those who has responded to your post. besides, the bulk of your post had nothing to do with WW anyhow-- at least not the WW that we know of.

edit: btw, your 3rd post, boy that will get a lot of women here all riled up. a lot of it is way off dude. yes there are exceptional women, but heck they're not as rare as you make it out to be. maybe its your exposure i dunno, buti know a lot of great women, Wonder Women in their own right. but i wont bother pouncing on your post and refuting it point by point, i think its too early in the game for that, they just announced the director for pete's sake, i dont want to go and ruin the momment by starting a debate that is obviously a perception issue.

[Polomontana]

Jennifer Connelly, Monica Belluci would be great.

The number 1 choice though is Kristen Kreuk from Smallville.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2032/Events/2032/KristinKre_Ausse_863199_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Kreuk,%20Kristin

[The Batman]

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[hippie_hunter]

Jennifer Connelly, Monica Belluci would be great.

The number 1 choice though is Kristen Kreuk from Smallville.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2032/Events/2032/KristinKre_Ausse_863199_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Kreuk,%20Kristin

Worst Choice Ever

[Lobo]

She's a better choice than Chyna or SMG :o

[The Sage]

Jennifer Connelly, Monica Belluci would be great.

The number 1 choice though is Kristen Kreuk from Smallville.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2032/Events/2032/KristinKre_Ausse_863199_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Kreuk,%20Kristin

That's funniest thing I've heard all day.

Stop playing. :D

[BK]

Interesting?

http://img225.exs.cx:81/img225/5354/lyndacarter3od.jpghttp://img225.exs.cx:81/img225/336/monicabellucci2an.jpg

Yes....very interesting! :eek:

[The Sage]

http://img225.exs.cx:81/img225/5354/lyndacarter3od.jpg

http://img225.exs.cx:81/img225/336/monicabellucci2an.jpg

You see my choice. Let's go Monica! Whoo!

[Polomontana]

Did you see her in the Smallville Episode Sacred? It was Crouching Tiger Hidden Lana, she kicked Butt. She will rock as Wonder Woman and she has that exotic look.

[The Sage]

Did you see her in the Smallville Episode Sacred? It was Crouching Tiger Hidden Lana, she kicked Butt. She will rock as Wonder Woman and she has that exotic look.

She was cheesier than macaroni in that episode.

[Polomontana]

One more Kristen pick!!!

http://img131.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img131&image=kristin0506zw.jpg

How can you say she's not Wonder Womsn? Look at her? Exotic looking and Young and with the Buffy guy Whedon, she would be perfect.

[The Sage]

One more Kristen pick!!!

http://img131.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img131&image=kristin0506zw.jpg

How can you say she's not Wonder Womsn? Look at her? Exotic looking and Young and with the Buffy guy Whedon, she would be perfect.

This is perfect, this is womanly, and exotic.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre6.jpg

[Polomontana]

Her cheek bones are too high. I would go with Kristen.

[Lobo]

Biel Dammit!

[The Batman]

Her cheek bones are too high. I would go with Kristen.


You gotta be kidding me....

You know nothing about Wonder woman, do you? you'd just put your favorite brunette in the movie, despite the fact that she's NOTHING like her

[Heartbreak Kid]

I will try to answer your question by using a quote from William Moulton Marston:

"Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. . . . The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

-- Marston, 1943

What is your idea of a beautiful woman? First of all, before I attempt to answer this question, I will state that according to a Washinton Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29691-2001Apr17), Wonder Woman fans tend to be adult and mostly male, though the female segment tends to be vocal (as you can see on this board). Surprizingly, the most loyal Wonder Woman fans are gay men.

I think that what most men want in an ideal woman is first and foremost beauty. If you look at popular women in america you will see that a beautiful woman has the 36-24-36 (coke bottle) type figure, is or appears to be very young, and has her hormones active. That's what sells here in Hollywood. As a woman in television gets older, they tend to kick them to the curb. Notice how most news ancor women are young and quite attractive. Very seldom do you see them with gray hair and wrinkles. On the big screen you will notice the types of parts they choose and the roles they play as they get older. Jennifer Connely played sexy teen fav. roles when she was younger. Now shes in roles that are up for academy award nominations.

I can not speak for women (who make up 51 pecent of movie goers) and what they like but they are more than welocome to give their opinion. Of course this opinion differs in other countries. In Latin America the women on TV all seem to be young, sexy and curvy. I don't know what people like in Canada. I think the type of person that will be playing Wonder Woman should correspond to what her potential movie going market sees in an ideal woman, but yet also meet the ideals set forth by William Moulton Marston.

Dno

The Marston quote is perfect. And it illustrates my point. A strong woman is a strong WOMAN. not a guy with boobs. A confident woman is not a femi-nazi. She is comfortable with her feminism and her sexuality and women are sexual creatures. they possess qualities we as men do not while she should be strong and noble and brave she should not be butch and bossy. She should be unattainable yet vulnerable. Like Emma Peel or Lara Croft but a bit more innocent, though not naive. Women do not succeed with force, rather with intelligence or skill. or charm at times. Force is not a feminine quality. But as I said girls would like her, women tend to be more insecure are have poor self image or are uncomfortable with their sexuality would not.

As for latin american and other non-north american women (ie greek spanish italian) they tend to take more pride in their appearance ane are comfortable with being women and all that entails, not trying to be "better than a man" to prove some rather valueless point. Latin women are also more comfortable with their sexuality and are not embarassed to be girls and are therefore more confident and interesting without losing their femininity.

All said, Monica Belluci is a great choice but is simply too old. She is beautiful but like, 36, she'll be almost 38 by the time production starts, and well over 40 by the time a sequel starts.

This Tsiani girl is decent.
Kelly Brook looks good to me.
I think we need a girl not from the US

[Steelsheen]

The number 1 choice though is Kristen Kreuk from Smallville.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2032/Events/2032/KristinKre_Ausse_863199_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Kreuk,%20Kristin
if she was 6 inches taller maybe.

but she's not really WW material. Queen of Naboo maybe :p

[Polomontana]

<if she was 6 inches taller maybe.>

Just give Kristen her high heels. When she's in her Wonder Woman suit she will be a little taller. She has an exotic look and she will have the appeal of Peter Parker. A young woman struggling with being a teenager and becoming a woman. There are a myriad of storylines you can have with Kristen and now you got the Buffy guy on board, I'm sure it will be interesting.

A Wonder Woman poster shot!

http://img130.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img130&image=026ie.jpg

[Steelsheen]

<if she was 6 inches taller maybe.>

Just give Kristen her high heels. When she's in her Wonder Woman suit she will be a little taller. She has an exotic look and she will have the appeal of Peter Parker. A young woman struggling with being a teenager and becoming a woman. There are a myriad of storylines you can have with Kristen and now you got the Buffy guy on board, I'm sure it will be interesting.

A Wonder Woman poster shot!

http://img130.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img130&image=026ie.jpg
she's too young looking dude. maybe i should've added "plus 20 years older" to my first post.

this is Wonder Woman not Supergirl. Kruek is very beautiful-- i'd dare say one of the most beautiful of her generation (right up there with Portman), but there's so many things about her that doesnt say "Amazon Princess".

i remember her in Earthsea. she's pretty good there. she should try some fantasy roles. she'd be perfect if she'd play some pixie or something.

[Polomontana]

If not Wonder Woman, the lead in Legend of Isis.

Synopsis: The LEGEND OF ISIS comic told the story of what happens when an American teenage girl discovers the bracelets to the ancient Egyptian goddess and puts them on. The girl then inherits the powers and abilities of Isis. Russell's idea is to write the lead character of Jessica Eisen in the vein of a Peter Parker character, someone who is given superpowers and is uncomfortable with how they affect their social and family life.

Just One more:

http://img137.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img137&image=kristenkreuk9311129at.jpg

[Steelsheen]

If not Wonder Woman, the lead in Legend of Isis.

Synopsis: The LEGEND OF ISIS comic told the story of what happens when an American teenage girl discovers the bracelets to the ancient Egyptian goddess and puts them on. The girl then inherits the powers and abilities of Isis. Russell's idea is to write the lead character of Jessica Eisen in the vein of a Peter Parker character, someone who is given superpowers and is uncomfortable with how they affect their social and family life.
damn, where have i heard of this before....

but yeah sounds very right up Kruek's alley. :up:

[Polomontana]

This is an independant comic, Ali Russell pitched it to Kelsey Grammer's productions and they optioned it.

[tatedonovan]

http://coolius.8m.com/images/wwpb.jpg

I'd post the rest of the pics, but she's naked...

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah Biel or Carpenter still, or an unknown.

But I like my girl Kreuk for that Isis role

[zanos]

<if she was 6 inches taller maybe.>

Just give Kristen her high heels. When she's in her Wonder Woman suit she will be a little taller. She has an exotic look and she will have the appeal of Peter Parker. A young woman struggling with being a teenager and becoming a woman. There are a myriad of storylines you can have with Kristen and now you got the Buffy guy on board, I'm sure it will be interesting.

A Wonder Woman poster shot!

http://img130.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img130&image=026ie.jpg


High heels? Don't you mean stilts?

[Super_Ludacris]

Props to Polo for the Kreuk pics :)

[Antonello Blueberry]

http://coolius.8m.com/images/wwpb.jpg

I'd post the rest of the pics, but she's naked...
Beautiful girl. Who is she?

[Polomontana]

Thanks Super Ludacris, here is one for the road,

http://img194.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img194&image=kk235zy.jpg

[Metamorpho1977]

My idea for the Wonder Woman movie. First Ares should be the villain. I think he should get upset that humanity has forgotten the Greek gods and goddesses and organizes a few of the Gods to back him up in taking the planet over. Have him convince Hades to help him. Let Hades help him by building an army of soldiers from every war since the Greek gods. Ares would lead it into battle. Using his soldiers to begin taking over countries in the middle east spreading out, slowly taking over Europe and Asia. Hippolyta hears of it, and decides it's time to send Wonder Woman out to stop him. One of the armies of Ares invades Themiscyra. Hippolyta, Diana, and a handful of other Amazons escape. Ares decides to make Themiscyra his base of operations. The surviving Amazons contact the gods of the other Pantheons to assist, telling them that if successful, Ares will put an end to them as well. Mars, the Roman god of War helps them by bringing about an army of the greatest women warriors since the dawn of time. Then there's a massive battle on Themiscyra and around the world with the warriors and Diana vs Ares in Themiscyra for the freedom of the world.

Just an idea, what do you think?

[Matt]

Morena Baccarin would be great.

[Webley]

some of my picks for Wonder Woman.

Bridget Moynahan
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/thumbnails/tn_WWasBridgetMoynahan.jpg

Catherine
Bell
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasCatherineBellbyAndroide.jpg
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasCatherineBell03.jpg

CatherineZetaJones
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasCatherineZetaJones03.jpg

Jennifer Connley
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasJenniferConnleybyMikeGreen.jpg

Rachel Weisz
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasRachelWeisz.jpg

[Steelsheen]

has anybody seen Zeta's early work in The Phantom (starring Billy Zane)? whatever her age was there, she was perfect for WW.

i wish i could find a pic of that.

edit: found a montage from this dude's site. screencaps aint so great though.

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/9590/2cjlp1pj.th.jpg (http://img8.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img8&image=2cjlp1pj.jpg)

[terry78]

Very good manips....acting ability is always a frontrunner, but looks and height are definitely a close second....5'10 Catherine Bell is closest in that area to me, and if they can pick a Brandon Routh for Supes, they can do Bell up for WW...most soap opera actors look like hyper realistic comic characters anyway with their creepy chiseled features.

[SolidRoar]

some of my picks for Wonder Woman.

Bridget Moynahan
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/thumbnails/tn_WWasBridgetMoynahan.jpg
Dude, couldn't you find a smaller pic?! :D;) Seriously, I'd like to see how she looks as WW - although manips don't do the actresses justice, IMO.

They couldn't go wrong with Zeta-Jones, but I still think they should try finding an unknown. Catherine Zeta-Jones would make a great Talia, BTW. :)

[Lightning Strykez!]

My idea for the Wonder Woman movie. First Ares should be the villain. I think he should get upset that humanity has forgotten the Greek gods and goddesses and organizes a few of the Gods to back him up in taking the planet over. Have him convince Hades to help him. Let Hades help him by building an army of soldiers from every war since the Greek gods. Ares would lead it into battle. Using his soldiers to begin taking over countries in the middle east spreading out, slowly taking over Europe and Asia. Hippolyta hears of it, and decides it's time to send Wonder Woman out to stop him. One of the armies of Ares invades Themiscyra. Hippolyta, Diana, and a handful of other Amazons escape. Ares decides to make Themiscyra his base of operations. The surviving Amazons contact the gods of the other Pantheons to assist, telling them that if successful, Ares will put an end to them as well. Mars, the Roman god of War helps them by bringing about an army of the greatest women warriors since the dawn of time. Then there's a massive battle on Themiscyra and around the world with the warriors and Diana vs Ares in Themiscyra for the freedom of the world.

Just an idea, what do you think?

:up:

Works for me! ;)

[Lobo]

Once again, my choice Jessica Biel

http://www.kellcom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wonder-Woman-JB.jpg

The above manip is by Wobbly

[Webley]

Dude, couldn't you find a smaller pic?! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif Seriously, I'd like to see how she looks as WW - although manips don't do the actresses justice, IMO.

They couldn't go wrong with Zeta-Jones, but I still think they should try finding an unknown. Catherine Zeta-Jones would make a great Talia, BTW. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasBridgetMoynahan.jpg

[Polomontana]

Webley, do one with Kristen Kreuk from smallville.

[Super_Ludacris]

Webley, do one with Kristen Kreuk from smallville.


I maybe the biggest KK fan ( I am to Kreuk what Morg is to Elisha Cuthbert :D ) but I can't see her as WW. Maybe like a Wonder Girl charecter maybe but not as WW.

[americanguy96]

I really think Monica Belluci would do a good job. She is a good actress, and she has the perfect physique(sp?)

[ZeroCorpse]

Anyone who doubts Lucy Lawless' ability to play Wonder Woman needs to watch her on "Less Than Perfect" on ABC tonight. She's tall, gorgeous, DOES NOT LOOK OLD, and acts very well.

Casting her is the only way I'd accept a Joss Whedon Wonder Woman.

[The Sage]

Then I guess you're S.O.L.

[ZeroCorpse]

Lucy Lawless

http://xine.deslea.com/immortal/lawless_general/lucylawless.jpg

Not feminine enough?!?!

My goodness! She's certainly better than Gellar, Belucci, Bullock, or some of the other choices. Just look at WW in the comics!

[Webley]

http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasLucyLawless01.jpgI dont make tham I just post thame.

[Polomontana]

I have to admit, Lucy Lawless would be perfect. That Webley pic of Lawless is Flawless. She looks good and has a tough look to her.

[Polomontana]

I just saw on IMD Message board they said maybe Chyna the wrestler or Lara Flynn Boyle. Man did I laugh.

[The Sage]

How recent are those Lawless pics?

[dnno1]

I just saw on IMD Message board they said maybe Chyna the wrestler or Lara Flynn Boyle. Man did I laugh.

http://www.newhampshire.com/doclib/celebrity/chyna.jpg
Chyna at the VMA's:
This is the closest she
will ever get to playing
the part.

I really feel kind of sorry for this woman. She is very tall (5'10) and fits some people's discription of an amazon, but I don't think that she fits the Marston mold for Wonder Woman. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that she will in some way try out for the part (either by sending in a picture, video tape, or a resume) and I (strangely) feel that she could play some type of role in the movie (like a villianess or another amazon) but she is not beautiful enought to play the princess of Thymicira.


http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/706239088
Lynda Carter
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/iceddonuts/images/chyna/chyna6.jpghttp://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/313277551
Jonie (Not Lynda Carter) Laurer

See what I mean?

Dno

[Steelsheen]

Lucy Lawless

Not feminine enough?!?!

My goodness! She's certainly better than Gellar, Belucci, Bullock, or some of the other choices. Just look at WW in the comics!
Lawless is on the same boat as Connelly, Belluci and Zeta-Jones: perfect if they were only reaching 30 and not past 30.

[goldenboy]

I don't know. I don't know how old WW is supposed to be. It's an origin story (?), so pretty young I guess. The Alex Ross WW looks almost 35 or so at times. Kinda fluctuates. But if we're thinkin sequels....

[Phantomex]

Morena Baccarin would be great.

http://img214.exs.cx/img214/5349/baccarinwonderwoman4km.jpg

[Lobo]

I'm all for Morena Baccarin, how tall is she?

[terry78]

Morena is cute as hell, isn't she? Her stint as Black Canary already has me secretly wanting her for the role.

http://www.morena-baccarin.com/pictures/public1/public24.jpg
http://www.morena-baccarin.com/pictures/mbwireimage/wire2.jpg
http://sq-01.ventertainment.net/firefly/ff_inarasmall.jpg

[Steelsheen]

I don't know. I don't know how old WW is supposed to be. It's an origin story (?), so pretty young I guess. The Alex Ross WW looks almost 35 or so at times. Kinda fluctuates. But if we're thinkin sequels....
well WW is ageless, but we're considering the realities of carrying a franchise, and if you want at least 3 movies out of this franchise you must consider the age of the lead.

[Polomontana]

What about Krista Allen

Fan pic as Wonder Women.

http://krista-allen.com/ipw-web/gallery/fanpics/zKA_GIF_1a


ADD ON:

I knew I saw her face before when I ran across her at IMD. I went back and she was the teacher in the episode Heat for those that watch Smallville. It's when Clark first discovered his heat vision.

[dnno1]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:CUPOT4MtGKMJ:www.mixedfolks.com/images/lyndacarter.jpg
Lynda Carter
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:-nZyew9PEtAJ:bonovocs3.tripod.com/ManuelaArcuri12.jpg
Manuela Arcuri

I still think that Manuela Arcuri should be up for consideration.

[pimpernel]

The bad suggestions have really been rolling in lately. :eek:

[Philly Phanboy]

TASHA!

http://mcpress.monaco.net/2002-actualite-en-images-monaco/bal-de-la-roses-2002/0000481.jpg

[portland2002]

Her cheek bones are too high. I would go with Kristen.

Well, I could see Kristen Kreuk as Donna Troy/Wonder Girl. In my opinion, whoever plays WW should be at least 5'8".

[Super_Ludacris]

Well, I could see Kristen Kreuk as Donna Troy/Wonder Girl. In my opinion, whoever plays WW should be at least 5'8".


Agreed

Kreuk as Troy and Carpenter as Diana..........so we all agree right? got it, good :cool:

[dnno1]

The bad suggestions have really been rolling in lately. :eek:

Yeah, like your suggestion.

http://www.playbill.com/images/photos/kelly1_1086874602.jpg

Dno

[Kal-El 8]

Even thought I know this won't happen. I love this One


http://img129.exs.cx/img129/9536/wwascarmenelectra013np.jpg :p :D :up:

[Philly Phanboy]

Yeah, like your suggestion.

http://www.playbill.com/images/photos/kelly1_1086874602.jpg

Dno

The key would be lots of distance shots, Dnno. :joker:

[dnno1]

It really seems like there are a lot of fans of Nadia Bjorlin around. I looked at a poll on the Fan's Ultimate Wonder Woman Movie website and saw that she has an overwhelming lead over several other women -- including the ones mentioned on the poll on this thread. I myself personally don't see her as &quot;all that&quot;. She must be paying some people and friends off or the Warners must be pushing her. I don't understand.

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1298903761___________ http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1604643737
Lynda Carter___________Nadia Bjorlin

Dno

[Polomontana]

I found Wonder Woman, Connie Nielsen from Gladiator. She played Lucilla, and she's 5'10. Look at her:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2752/Events/2752/ConnieNiel_Vespa_4249256_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Nielsen,%20Connie%20(I)

[FVD]

After all this fiasco we're never gonna agree on one person therefore I think Joss Whedon should do what Bryan Singer did. Cast an unknown. It's the best way to do this IMHO.

FVD.

[coast city]

Morena Baccarin. Perfect look, perfect age, unknown, and can act. well.

[elorenishii386]

http://www.newhampshire.com/doclib/celebrity/chyna.jpg
Chyna at the VMA's:
This is the closest she
will ever get to playing
the part.

I really feel kind of sorry for this woman. She is very tall (5'10) and fits some people's discription of an amazon, but I don't think that she fits the Marston mold for Wonder Woman. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that she will in some way try out for the part (either by sending in a picture, video tape, or a resume) and I (strangely) feel that she could play some type of role in the movie (like a villianess or another amazon) but she is not beautiful enought to play the princess of Thymicira.


http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/54/039_14967.jpg
Lynda Carter
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/iceddonuts/images/chyna/chyna6.jpg
Jonie (Not Lynda Carter) Laurer

See what I mean?

Dno


Chyna as Wonder Woman....HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have you guys seen the sureal life...she messed herself up good....that woman is crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Antonello Blueberry]

I found Wonder Woman, Connie Nielsen from Gladiator. She played Lucilla, and she's 5'10. Look at her:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2752/Events/2752/ConnieNiel_Vespa_4249256_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Nielsen,%20Connie%20(I)
Too bad she's 40.

[SolidRoar]

Aren't there young, tall and imposing actresses at all?! :p

[Hunter Rider]

we NEED a wonder woman forum

[RogueyStars2004]

Nadia Bjorlin is the perfect choice for Wonder Woman! Just check out this picture!



http://www.deviantart.com/view/14502043/

I would be first in line at the theatres the day it came out if she were to be Diana!


~RogueyStars2004

[Lobo]

we NEED a wonder woman forum


Mirko said in about 3 weeks, he'll be putting up forums for WW, Flash, Watchmen, and V for Vendetta etc.

[Hunter Rider]

Mirko said in about 3 weeks, he'll be putting up forums for WW, Flash, Watchmen, and V for Vendetta etc.

cool:cool: are V and watchmen gonna be seperate ? and how did i miss this ?:o

[Lobo]

Probably seperate, he posted this in a WW forum request thread, I'll lookfor the link in a minute.

*edit*

Found it

here (www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166633)

[Polomontana]

If you have to go young, it's no question then, it has to be Kate Beckinsale.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2471/Events/2471/KateBeckin_Grani_2862616_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Beckinsale,%20Kate

They might not pick her, although she's the obvious choice. They may want an unknown like Singer did with Superman. I was rooting for Tom Welling btw, but I'm a biased Smallville fan.

[Hunter Rider]

Probably seperate, he posted this in a WW forum request thread, I'll lookfor the link in a minute.

*edit*

Found it

here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166633)

thanks Lobo:up: good news

[Lobo]

Anytime hunter ;)

[dejavubygone]

Jordan bayne looks great for the role , but i don´t know how old is she or if shes tall enough , the age and the size does matter if there where a second WW movie

[Dark Knight]

i'll take a great actress who can tone up like Jennifer Connelly anyday ahead of any of these suggestions....I see Connelly being able to to what Hillary Swank did for Million Dollar Baby, if she is cast as Diana/WW.

[Steelsheen]

Aren't there young, tall and imposing actresses at all?! :p

there were plenty 5 years ago ;)

[Dark Knight]

In the end i think we/this film will need a proven actress for this role guys IMO. This is risk is way too high if they go with an unknown IMO. This film will be difficult enough to sell to this masses....you can't compare this to what happened with Singers casting an unknown for Supes....because the Superman movie will make money regardless of the lead.....this Wonder Woman film does not have that type of luxury.....because the female superhero or just heroine market is a tough and unproven one to succeed in. Only one i can think of recent memory....Tarantinos Kill Bill films..and Eastwoods Million Dollar Baby film..and those were not based on comic books. Connelly can be our/this films Thurman and Swank IMO. I hope Whedon and Silver realize this for the good of the film....and us fans....

[superheromovies]

Take a peek (http://www.online-presence.net/ww/)!

[superheromovies]

They didn't use a proven actress with the television series, or with Superman. Nor did they use a proven actress with the Bionic Woman, or the Incredible Hulk (television). I certainly didn't hear of the guy that was in the movie version beforehand. And then they used unknowns for the Dukes of Hazzard, for the young leads of Battle Star Galactica, nor in the movie young leads in the Star Wars movies.

Nope, sorry, I agree with the formula for success that's worked many a time before. Virtual unknown (which one of them has already been tagged just recently to send in material btw and will know who by clicking on the link I just submitted) for the lead role, and WW's mother with the dream actress of Lynda Carter, with perhaps the villan(s) being known folk.

That's my opinion, based on past great successes!

shm



In the end i think we/this film will need a proven actress for this role guys IMO. This is risk is way too high if they go with an unknown IMO. This film will be difficult enough to sell to this masses....you can't compare this to what happened with Singers casting an unknown for Supes....because the Superman movie will make money regardless of the lead.....this Wonder Woman film does not have that type of luxury.....because the female superhero or just heroine market is a tough and unproven one to succeed in. Only one i can think of recent memory....Tarantinos Kill Bill films..and Eastwoods Million Dollar Baby film..and those were not based on comic books. Connelly can be our/this films Thurman and Swank IMO. I hope Whedon and Silver realize this for the good of the film....and us fans....

[Dark Knight]

agree with you about WW being the female Superman....yes....however, i disagree with everything else. Her character is NOT as iconic and as popular as Batman and Superman....at least to the average movie goer. Granted the story, and marketing of the film will be VERY important also. I don;t think people will "flock" to see this film. When the general audience first hears that a new WW film will becoming out...they will think first....."oh no....not like the TV series i hope!" Then, they will ask...who's going to play her? This is a very important part of the initial promotion of this film,,,,,,what would you rather say?? Uhh...some unknown actor....who hasn't been in hardly anything.....and then the buzz will quickly die and then you have to promote Whedon and the story and Silver producing. Wouldn't it be easier and alot more exciting to say....Jennifer Connelly is going to play her and she is in great shape and looks freakin hot......then the buzz will start....Really?? Thats awesome! It gives the film instant credibilty and buzz! Very important to me. Compared to trying to explain to people for an hour who is Superman and what Singer may or may not do in this upcoming film. Granted Garner couldn't save Elektra and Halle couln't save CINO....but we know why those weren't succesfull....the stories were weak, the execution by the directors and producers was awful. Plus the marketing was bad....because the buzz about the films were so bad...the studios didn't want to spend the extra cash for trying to promote film correctly. First Whedon must tell a solid, epic, and passionate story, to make the general audience care about this heroine. Then try and get a solid actress to depict her onscreen.....not an unknown who doesn't have the range, resume, or credibilty for the overall challenge.

[Winter Spleen]

I'm copy and pasting this from another thread... because I can :) :

I wouldn't be opposed to Minnie Driver taking on the role. Obviously, it was just her saying she'd like to do it... but even then realizing herself she doesn't have a chance in hell. She maybe a bit too old anyways, and perhaps not pretty enough. But I think her build is well-suited for WW, she's pretty tall... and she can act.

http://minniedriver.net/newphotos/007.jpg
http://minniedriver.net/photos/new3/minnie-driver06.jpg

She wouldn't get the part for many reasons... but I actually like the idea of it.

She's also 5'10" btw.

[TopJack]

Oh please cast this movie soon so these stupid fanboy jerk-off threads will end.

[dnno1]

http://coolius.8m.com/images/wwpb.jpg

I'd post the rest of the pics, but she's naked...

I know it's not her but she made me think about Kimberly Page (Diamond Dallas Page's estranged wife). She also played Selena Kyle in the Grason FanFilm last year.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbnZUdsmc7aqEJ:thunderwow.tripod.com/page/11a90660.jpghttp://www.wrestlingmuseum.com/images/photos/page-kimberly01.jpg
Kimberly Page

She is about 5'10" although I do not know how old she is (might be old).

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/10/97/36m.jpg
Kimberly Page

Dno

[ETHERSPIN]

Id like to put my vote 100% behind jennifer connelly if they make her put a little weight on and tone up 4months prior to shooting!

[Webley]

Wonder Woman
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasBrookeShields.jpghttp://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasCourtneyCox.jpg

[superheromovies]

If you ask anyone that is familiar with superheros who are the most popular three, they'll most likely say superman, batman and WONDER WOMAN. as for the reply being from people 'oh no not like the tv series i hope', that was taken care of when the idea of sandra bullock was dropped. people want to know how this movie is going to turn out, people remember growing up with wonder woman lunch boxes, toy tiaras and bracelets, and thinking that girls can be just as strong as the guys. I think you are missing a very important aspect to this character and the impact she had and does have on people. comic book sales are still up there and she's lasted through a lot. those people that you mention that would be 'oooh, so and so is in the lead' will be just as 'ooooooh' if they were supporting cast. Spiderman anyone? great lead that noone really thought would make it in the role and top notch known villans: perfect formula.

and the more I see of the woman's face and look at Alex Ross' art, I'm still thinking she's a dead-on perfect choice for the role. hire an unknown in the lead role, save money on the payroll. and trust me, WB is going to be looking at the money they can make and save, so they can make more.

all in all, it works.

p.s. thanks for this discussion. I'm really enjoying both of our views and seeing it flesh out :)


agree with you about WW being the female Superman....yes....however, i disagree with everything else. Her character is NOT as iconic and as popular as Batman and Superman....at least to the average movie goer. Granted the story, and marketing of the film will be VERY important also. I don;t think people will "flock" to see this film. When the general audience first hears that a new WW film will becoming out...they will think first....."oh no....not like the TV series i hope!" Then, they will ask...who's going to play her? This is a very important part of the initial promotion of this film,,,,,,what would you rather say?? Uhh...some unknown actor....who hasn't been in hardly anything.....and then the buzz will quickly die and then you have to promote Whedon and the story and Silver producing. Wouldn't it be easier and alot more exciting to say....Jennifer Connelly is going to play her and she is in great shape and looks freakin hot......then the buzz will start....Really?? Thats awesome! It gives the film instant credibilty and buzz! Very important to me. Compared to trying to explain to people for an hour who is Superman and what Singer may or may not do in this upcoming film. Granted Garner couldn't save Elektra and Halle couln't save CINO....but we know why those weren't succesfull....the stories were weak, the execution by the directors and producers was awful. Plus the marketing was bad....because the buzz about the films were so bad...the studios didn't want to spend the extra cash for trying to promote film correctly. First Whedon must tell a solid, epic, and passionate story, to make the general audience care about this heroine. Then try and get a solid actress to depict her onscreen.....not an unknown who doesn't have the range, resume, or credibilty for the overall challenge.

[superheromovies]

http://www.online-presence.net/ww/Image12.jpg
here's what I'm talking about - Alex Ross drew wonder woman, as is, jordan is the comic come to life

[Steelsheen]

Wonder Woman
http://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasBrookeShields.jpghttp://users3.ev1.net/~dukeofdeception/WWas/WWasCourtneyCox.jpg
Brooke Shiels= :up: :cool:
Courtney Cox= :eek: :down:

[Steelsheen]

http://www.online-presence.net/ww/Image12.jpg
here's what I'm talking about - Alex Ross drew wonder woman, as is, jordan is the comic come to life
is that Lucy Lawless in the armour suit?! :p

ironic that the msot popular photo of Jordan Bayne happened to be her worst shot :o

[superheromovies]

clean your glasses :) of course it's not xena

and what do you think is jordan's best shot? do you have something we could look at? I'd be interested to see 'em. and out of curiousity, where's this shot been seen?


is that Lucy Lawless in the armour suit?! :p

ironic that the msot popular photo of Jordan Bayne happened to be her worst shot :o

[Steelsheen]

clean your glasses :) of course it's not xena

and what do you think is jordan's best shot? do you have something we could look at? I'd be interested to see 'em. and out of curiousity, where's this shot been seen?
looks helluva lot like Xena. what's the original photo the manip was based on?

there was a website of Jordan Bayne that was posted a while back. had better pics of her there. just google search it if you're curious, shouldnt be too hard to find.

[Aethea]

[QUOTE=superheromovies]http://www.online-presence.net/ww/Image12.jpg

NOW This is MY wonder Woman. Jordan Bayne is the Human Personification of Wonder Woman.

[superheromovies]

I'll google if you don't have the url handy but all of the ww images were done by Alex Ross and simply cloned onto this image with pics of jordan so.. does that answer your question?


looks helluva lot like Xena. what's the original photo the manip was based on?

there was a website of Jordan Bayne that was posted a while back. had better pics of her there. just google search it if you're curious, shouldnt be too hard to find.

[superheromovies]

I thought along the same lines when I saw the movie Under Hellgate Bridge and had just read Ross' WW book. there was a scene in the movie when jordan is taking off her shades and looking toward something in daylight and it reminded me of the image where diana (in the book) had her shades on and was looking toward something after having made a phone call.

and then when I saw the image of wonder woman coming out of the fire...? well look at the graphic here, is that or is that not the spitting image of jordan???

I agree with you A, this woman is the comic come to life. I haven't seen anyone come closer and I've been writing articles since day one on the ww movie for different publications.


http://www.online-presence.net/ww/Image12.jpg

NOW This is MY wonder Woman. Jordan Bayne is the Human Personification of Wonder Woman.

[Dark Knight]

If you ask anyone that is familiar with superheros who are the most popular three, they'll most likely say superman, batman and WONDER WOMAN. as for the reply being from people 'oh no not like the tv series i hope', that was taken care of when the idea of sandra bullock was dropped. people want to know how this movie is going to turn out, people remember growing up with wonder woman lunch boxes, toy tiaras and bracelets, and thinking that girls can be just as strong as the guys. I think you are missing a very important aspect to this character and the impact she had and does have on people. comic book sales are still up there and she's lasted through a lot. those people that you mention that would be 'oooh, so and so is in the lead' will be just as 'ooooooh' if they were supporting cast. Spiderman anyone? great lead that noone really thought would make it in the role and top notch known villans: perfect formula.

and the more I see of the woman's face and look at Alex Ross' art, I'm still thinking she's a dead-on perfect choice for the role. hire an unknown in the lead role, save money on the payroll. and trust me, WB is going to be looking at the money they can make and save, so they can make more.

all in all, it works.

p.s. thanks for this discussion. I'm really enjoying both of our views and seeing it flesh out :)


i disagree with you again.....Tobey was NOT an unknown actor....i saw Wonder Boys and the Cider House Rules and i knew who he was. Before Spidey came out...iw as suggesting Tobey ahead of Freddie Prinze and the others more trendy actors who were mentioned because of his acting ability! Not his looks..even though i had a feeling he would be an excellent Parker. Then about the asking people about Superheroes and who are the popular ones. Wonder Woman is not even in the top five. Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Wolverine, Flash, Hulk, Daredevil.....come way ahead of her on the list of most popular. Come on you...

[Steelsheen]

I'll google if you don't have the url handy but all of the ww images were done by Alex Ross and simply cloned onto this image with pics of jordan so.. does that answer your question?
so WW in armour is an unaltered Ross painting? spooky, looked just like Xena doing her battle cry.

anyway, back to topic....

how good an actress is Bayne again?

[superheromovies]

you're allowed to disagree, which is one of the reasons why I'm enjoying our back and forth here, it's being done respectively, but you should know that statistically, with polls and results, the three most popular world-wide known superheros are superman, batman and wonderwoman, in that order.

as for toby, no one but no one thought he could pull it off and frankly, I hadn't seen a thing with him in it. two movies does not make a known actor along the lines of Christopher Reeve. Everyone that is interested in comics and superheroes knows who he is and..... he was cast as an unknown. it worked, as it has for so many other hero movies and television shows.

so, we can agree to disagree, even if the proof is in the pudding that having an virtual unknown in the lead works ;)


i disagree with you again.....Tobey was NOT an unknown actor....i saw Wonder Boys and the Cider House Rules and i knew who he was. Before Spidey came out...iw as suggesting Tobey ahead of Freddie Prinze and the others more trendy actors who were mentioned because of his acting ability! Not his looks..even though i had a feeling he would be an excellent Parker. Then about the asking people about Superheroes and who are the popular ones. Wonder Woman is not even in the top five. Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Wolverine, Flash, Hulk, Daredevil.....come way ahead of her on the list of most popular. Come on you...

[superheromovies]

you might want to visit jordanbayne-online.com and tag the webmaster there. I know there was a time when he/she was offering jordan's works on film/DVD for people to watch.



so WW in armour is an unaltered Ross painting? spooky, looked just like Xena doing her battle cry.

anyway, back to topic....

how good an actress is Bayne again?

[pimpernel]

Classy, elegant, Wonder Woman:
http://tinypic.com/2b74f8

Black and white... shows up wrinkles... but look... none:
http://tinypic.com/2b74g2

Ooh... exotic:
http://tinypic.com/2b74bd

This was taken around the time Hulk came out... old my arse:
http://tinypic.com/2b73vc

[pimpernel]

From House Of Sand And Fog just last year... this is her after sleeping rough in a car all night and not washing cos she is homeless... see how young she looks still:
http://tinypic.com/2b73on

From Hulk... ooh look she isn't always all calm and stuff:
http://tinypic.com/2b73sy

House Of Sand And Fog again... i wouldn't mess with her:
http://tinypic.com/2b73tx

This is about three years old and shows Jen is NOT too skinny and DOES have the boobies for WW:
http://tinypic.com/2b73w4

From House Of Sand And Fog again… see… not skinny and boobies present and correct:
http://tinypic.com/2b749c

[The Sage]

i disagree with you again.....Tobey was NOT an unknown actor....i saw Wonder Boys and the Cider House Rules and i knew who he was. Before Spidey came out...iw as suggesting Tobey ahead of Freddie Prinze and the others more trendy actors who were mentioned because of his acting ability! Not his looks..even though i had a feeling he would be an excellent Parker. Then about the asking people about Superheroes and who are the popular ones. Wonder Woman is not even in the top five. Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Wolverine, Flash, Hulk, Daredevil.....come way ahead of her on the list of most popular. Come on you...

Maybe you should ask what name comes to their mind when they think of a female superhero. And also note that everyone one of those heroes have had movies and have been in the public eye. When Wonder Woman comes out, she'll be up there.

Anyway, I didn't know who Tobey was, and a number of other people didn't. A lot of people don't know who Bale is over in the US, I know I didn't when I heard he got the role of Batman. It's not always about a star name, it's about the character. WW doesn't need a star actor, the name and the movie will sell itself.

[The Sage]

That's nice Pimp. Now, why don't you put pics of that other lady up, you know who I'm talking about. :p

[Hunter Rider]

I present to you Jennifer Connely's online agent.........Pimpernel:p :up:

great examples of her boobitude:cool:

[pimpernel]

That's nice Pimp. Now, why don't you put pics of that other lady up, you know who I'm talking about. :p

I suspect my man Sage will be able to find better pics of the youg lady in question. ;)

[The Sage]

I suspect my man Sage will be able to find better pics of the youg lady in question. ;)

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/3192/main15rq.jpg
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/5018/main24yf.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre3.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/tears_of_the_sun/monica_bellucci/tearspre7.jpg

[pimpernel]

We need to get those two in a movie together somehow. Possibly with mud wrestling involved.

[superheromovies]

only one thing, maybe two, but when I see ribs like that, it screams skinny. the saying skin and bones? that and she has already been on a superhero movie. it would cheat the hero by reusing characters. it's along the same lines of 'oh, xena wants to be wonder woman?', 'ooh look, buffy's trying to be wonder woman', 'cordellia as wonder woman? huh..?' jennifer connelly is still known to audiences as Betty Ross. whoever gets the role needs a kind of clean slate so the character herself will be center stage, not another character playing wonder woman. just my opinion


From House Of Sand And Fog again… see… not skinny and boobies present and correct:
http://tinypic.com/2b749c

[Hunter Rider]

We need to get those two in a movie together somehow. Possibly with mud wrestling involved.

produced by vivid pictures:D ;)

[superheromovies]

very well said!


Maybe you should ask what name comes to their mind when they think of a female superhero. And also note that everyone one of those heroes have had movies and have been in the public eye. When Wonder Woman comes out, she'll be up there.

Anyway, I didn't know who Tobey was, and a number of other people didn't. A lot of people don't know who Bale is over in the US, I know I didn't when I heard he got the role of Batman. It's not always about a star name, it's about the character. WW doesn't need a star actor, the name and the movie will sell itself.

[pimpernel]

only one thing, maybe two, but when I see ribs like that, it screams skinny. the saying skin and bones? that and she has already been on a superhero movie. it would cheat the hero by reusing characters. it's along the same lines of 'oh, xena wants to be wonder woman?', 'ooh look, buffy's trying to be wonder woman', 'cordellia as wonder woman? huh..?' jennifer connelly is still known to audiences as Betty Ross. whoever gets the role needs a kind of clean slate so the character herself will be center stage, not another character playing wonder woman. just my opinion

Are you really so dumb that i need to point out that she is stretching and that everyones ribs show when they stretch? Look at the pics on either side where she isn't stretching... no ribs. :rolleyes:

Also lots of people have been in more than one superhero movie... i'm betting not many people will give a crap that she was Bettie Ross in a movie that tanked.

[superheromovies]

well, it was nice talking to you when you weren't rude, but since you've lowered yourself there, I'll be speaking with the others on this board that would rather keep it above board and friendly.

Are you really so dumb that i need to point out that she is stretching and that everyones ribs show when they stretch? Look at the pics on either side where she isn't stretching... no ribs. :rolleyes:

Also lots of people have been in more than one superhero movie... i'm betting not many people will give a crap that she was Bettie Ross in a movie that tanked.

[pimpernel]

well, it was nice talking to you when you weren't rude, but since you've lowered yourself there, I'll be speaking with the others on this board that would rather keep it above board and friendly.

Wow... someone is way too sensitive. :eek:

[SolidRoar]

I guess you made you point, Pimp. :p

But the real question is, do you think Connelly herself is going to accept the role? Someone said she didn't want to be involved in comicbook movies after Hulk. (not even Hulk 2.)

[superheromovies]

which point is that? that he doesn't mind stooping down to calling names because other people have a differing opinion? yup, he's made his point on that one for sure.

and you are right about one thing in your post SR, she went on record in an interview that she did not want to be involved in comincbook movies again, but since that wasn't the point of this line of discussion, I didn't bother to point it out, sorry.

I guess you made you point, Pimp. :p

But the real question is, do you think Connelly herself is going to accept the role? Someone said she didn't want to be involved in comicbook movies after Hulk. (not even Hulk 2.)

[pimpernel]

I guess you made you point, Pimp. :p

But the real question is, do you think Connelly herself is going to accept the role? Someone said she didn't want to be involved in comicbook movies after Hulk. (not even Hulk 2.)

Well y'know i wasn't attacking him but it was a pretty dumb thing to say. :o

I honestly don't know if she would accept. Maybe. She isn't a stranger to getting her kit off so i don't think the suit would bother her. She has been in lots of genre movies so i doubt that aspect would bother her either. Plus you know they would offer her a ton of cash for it. And she has a kid now... she hasn't exactly done many movies so far that her kid could watch... i imagine he would be bored silly by Hulk at his age... thats always a popular reason for actors to take this kind of movie. The only thing i can see being a problem is if she thinks the movie would be ridiculous... and thats all gonna depend on the script. If they hand her a great script i think she would do it.

The real point is tho that she should DEFINATELY at least be offered first refusal on it. Whether or not she takes it from there is up to her... at least everyone will know they tried.

[Milkman95]

Evangeline Lilly from Lost. Since she couldn't be Lois, she could fit in as WW....

[pimpernel]

which point is that? that he doesn't mind stooping down to calling names because other people have a differing opinion? yup, he's made his point on that one for sure.

and you are right about one thing in your post SR, she went on record in an interview that she did not want to be involved in comincbook movies again, but since that wasn't the point of this line of discussion, I didn't bother to point it out, sorry.

Dude you seem like a decent guy so here is some advice: you gotta learn to take a joke on a site like this. I wasn't calling you dumb as such i was just pointing out that you said a dumb thing... which you did. It was done tongue-in-cheel and wasn't meant to cause offense... believe me people here will throw MUCH worse at you if you stick around. Now like i said i didn't mean anything bad by it and it wasn't some kinda attack so if you took it harder than it was intended then i apologise. Whats say we get over it and move on as friends?

[Hunter Rider]

Dude you seem like a decent guy so here is some advice: you gotta learn to take a joke on a site like this. I wasn't calling you dumb as such i was just pointing out that you said a dumb thing... which you did. It was done tongue-in-cheel and wasn't meant to cause offense... believe me people here will throw MUCH worse at you if you stick around. Now like i said i didn't mean anything bad by it and it wasn't some kinda attack so if you took it harder than it was intended then i apologise. Whats say we get over it and move on as friends?

yeah listen to this ,i mean no one takes pimp seriosly :p j/k my friend;)

[SolidRoar]

which point is that? that he doesn't mind stooping down to calling names because other people have a differing opinion? yup, he's made his point on that one for sure.No, no, no.. I'm not sticking my nose where it doesn't belong! LOL - I mean his point about casting Jennifer Connelly. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :)

and you are right about one thing in your post SR, she went on record in an interview that she did not want to be involved in comincbook movies again, but since that wasn't the point of this line of discussion, I didn't bother to point it out, sorry.Yeah, that's why I try to be a realist about casting. It's hard to get big name actresses for the role, especially after so many movies based on female comicbook characters have failed. Some even say that comicbook movies in general are losing their spark. I think the problem is that suddenly every studio wanted their comicbook movie because it became a trend that pays. Sadly, not all of them put much heart (or any heart at all) in the property they're working on - which made them so generic.

[pimpernel]

yeah listen to this ,i mean no one takes pimp seriosly :p j/k my friend;)

Its so true. :p

[pimpernel]

Yeah, that's why I try to be a realist about casting. It's hard to get big name actresses for the role, especially after so many movies based on female comicbook characters have failed. Some even say that comicbook movies in general are losing their spark. I think the problem is that suddenly every studio wanted their comicbook movie because it became a trend that pays. Sadly, not all of them put much heart (or any heart at all) in the property they're working on - which made them so generic.

Theres a difference tho between taking another role in a comicbook movie... and being handed the starring role as possible the single greatest female icon of all time... which also has the potential to be the biggest movie she has ever done.

[superheromovies]

Well, the quote was verified with her publisist and she meant any comic book role and you're right, even in chosing, perhaps it should be done realistically with people that could have an open shot for the role. one idea that had been bandied around was making a movie with a number of superheroes in it. Anyway, now I have my thinking cap on. Not to be rude but I'm just glad Bullock doesn't have the role. When I was called about that, I do believe I literally shuddered.

Yeah, that's why I try to be a realist about casting. It's hard to get big name actresses for the role, especially after so many movies based on female comicbook characters have failed. Some even say that comicbook movies in general are losing their spark. I think the problem is that suddenly every studio wanted their comicbook movie because it became a trend that pays. Sadly, not all of them put much heart (or any heart at all) in the property they're working on - which made them so generic.

[superheromovies]

have a pic?

Evangeline Lilly from Lost. Since she couldn't be Lois, she could fit in as WW....

[pimpernel]

have a pic?

http://tinypic.com/2b8a5l

http://tinypic.com/2b8abt

http://tinypic.com/2b8ad4

http://tinypic.com/2b8bph

[The Sage]

She can't fill the Wonder bra...

[Super_Ludacris]

have a pic?


http://evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/magazines/self/self-04.05-004.jpg
http://evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/51/normal_005.jpg

[superheromovies]

dankeshen and although she's a beautiful gal, she doesn't look like ww to me



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[superheromovies]

dankeshen too, but still don't think she looks like wonder woman. bet she'd make a good new Sheena of the jungle though ;)



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[Winter Spleen]

I know this won't be a popular choice... at all... but, I don't really care... I opt for Katie Holmes!

She's tall and beautiful!

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/8545/kh19uo.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/7158/kh321zj.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/6052/bw24qx.jpg

[Kroc1138]

From House Of Sand And Fog just last year... this is her after sleeping rough in a car all night and not washing cos she is homeless... see how young she looks still:
http://tinypic.com/2b73on

From Hulk... ooh look she isn't always all calm and stuff:
http://tinypic.com/2b73sy

House Of Sand And Fog again... i wouldn't mess with her:
http://tinypic.com/2b73tx

This is about three years old and shows Jen is NOT too skinny and DOES have the boobies for WW:
http://tinypic.com/2b73w4

From House Of Sand And Fog again… see… not skinny and boobies present and correct:
http://tinypic.com/2b749cSweet Christ!! I thought she would have been perfect to Play WW in 1992. I've always campaigned for her even though I thought she might be a bit old, but Hell that changes my mind totally.

[Kroc1138]

I know this won't be a popular choice... at all... but, I don't really care... I opt for Katie Holmes!

She's tall and beautiful!

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/8545/kh19uo.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/7158/kh321zj.jpg
http://img41.exs.cx/img41/6052/bw24qx.jpgShe not the Worst choice I've ever heard and that is saying something. There are far worse choices I've seen. (i.e. Victoria Silvested) and some others list on this post.

She's a decent one.

[superheromovies]

I agree, she's not the worst choice, but there's just something in my head going 'huh? Joey?' so I'm trying to wrap my brain around it ;) but still

jordan still looks like ww walked off of the comics and joined us in the flesh. I just keep thinking of reading the book and then seeing the movie and boom!

[Slipping_Halo]

From House Of Sand And Fog just last year... this is her after sleeping rough in a car all night and not washing cos she is homeless... see how young she looks still:
http://tinypic.com/2b73on

From Hulk... ooh look she isn't always all calm and stuff:
http://tinypic.com/2b73sy

House Of Sand And Fog again... i wouldn't mess with her:
http://tinypic.com/2b73tx

This is about three years old and shows Jen is NOT too skinny and DOES have the boobies for WW:
http://tinypic.com/2b73w4

From House Of Sand And Fog again… see… not skinny and boobies present and correct:
http://tinypic.com/2b749c

bingo

[goldenboy]

"Everybody is in agreement that casting is not an issue right now," [Joss] says. "It's not a vehicle to be built around a particular star. We want to write the thing, find the right character and then figure out who should play her. There are various famous people whose names have come up, because that always happens, but you know, we're talking about Wonder Woman here. Those are tough booties to fill." That said, it sounds like Whedon knows enough about Lynda Carter's successor to rule out Lawless and (sigh) Graham. "I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says, adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be in her early twenties and played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends."

source:
http://tvguide.com/news/askausiello/

[green]

Evangeline Lilly from Lost. Since she couldn't be Lois, she could fit in as WW....

Dont see her as WW, I know a lot of people think Jolie should be Catwoman, personally I think Lilly would make a great Selina Kyle.
There are some good suggestions in this thread and some bad ones.
I cant make up my mind on this..hmmm