Official Wonder Woman Casting Suggestions [merged-13]

[Steelsheen]

"Everybody is in agreement that casting is not an issue right now," [Joss] says. "It's not a vehicle to be built around a particular star. We want to write the thing, find the right character and then figure out who should play her. There are various famous people whose names have come up, because that always happens, but you know, we're talking about Wonder Woman here. Those are tough booties to fill." That said, it sounds like Whedon knows enough about Lynda Carter's successor to rule out Lawless and (sigh) Graham. "I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says, adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be in her early twenties and played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends."

source:
http://tvguide.com/news/askausiello/
early twenties... hmmm.....

so long as she looks like a woman and not a girl i guess its ok.

[MJB]

Joss is going woth someone in their early 20's???? D@mn that rules out kate Bekinsale, and probably Lily, since she's 26.

PLEASE WB DO NOT CAST BEIL AS WONDER WOMAN!!!

[Dark Knight]

early twenties... hmmm.....

so long as she looks like a woman and not a girl i guess its ok.


well.....it seems they will go younger unfortunately. I can see Biel being okay for the part.....she certainly has the body...but she is too short.

[Dark Knight]

bingo


this woman, would be soooo perfect for Diana/WW. All she would have to do is get toned up and in top shape.

[Dark Knight]

[QUOTE=superheromovies]http://www.online-presence.net/ww/Image12.jpg

NOW This is MY wonder Woman. Jordan Bayne is the Human Personification of Wonder Woman.

Nice teaser manip Aethea! One thing i do feel the official teaser poster should have....is just the WW eagle shaped logo in gold. It should not spell out the name Wonder Woman.......the posters should just have the logo on them.

[pimpernel]

Honestly i think early twenties is a big mistake. Not even Brandon Routh is that young. At this rate she is gonna be younger than the Flash and thats a huge mistake. I don't think someone that age can carry off the mature poise that Wonder Woman needs.

[superheromovies]

the whole going with a young gal is just an idea. Joss also said that he's looking at both younger and older, so it's anyone's game right now :)

[pimpernel]

I think for sure it will be an unknown tho... which rules out most of the existing casting thread. :p

I honestly think if they go for an unknown then Jordan Bayne is the best candidate.

[Steelsheen]

26 is still young.

early 20s could be 20-27.

[Dark Knight]

the whole going with a young gal is just an idea. Joss also said that he's looking at both younger and older, so it's anyone's game right now :)


i hope he does keeps his options open. I agree with Pimp.....going mid to low 20's for Wonder Woman is a mistake. We don't want WW to look like a girl.....she is a WOMAN. Whoever is cast, they should go with late 20's or early 30's. Joss can always show Diana in her late teens or early 20's in flashbacks or in the beginning of the origin being played by a younger actress if has to.

[The Sage]

Early 20s is 20-25. Late is 25-29.

If they can pull a Reeve and find a 24 year old unknown who looks mature enough, looks the part and can act, then I'll be happy.




Monica....
:(

[Dark Knight]

26 is still young.

early 20s could be 20-27.

early 20's...is 21-24....late is 27 -29.

[pimpernel]

Aye early is under 25... which is way too young for WW. Remember the Flash is supposed to be the baby of the JLA and at this rate he is gonna be older than WW.

[Slipping_Halo]

this woman, would be soooo perfect for Diana/WW. All she would have to do is get toned up and in top shape.


somehow, i don't think joss whedon has the sense to consider someone like ms. connelly. it's sad, but somehow i don't see this movie becoming what it has enormous potential to become.

[Slipping_Halo]

Honestly i think early twenties is a big mistake. Not even Brandon Routh is that young. At this rate she is gonna be younger than the Flash and thats a huge mistake. I don't think someone that age can carry off the mature poise that Wonder Woman needs.


i agree. i don't think wonder woman is supposed to be eternally young as much as she's supposed to be ageless. there's also supposed to be a maternal quality that she exudes. just like flash is the baby of the group, wonder woman is the obvious mother figure. i think casting someone just out of their teens is a big mistake because it takes away from that ageless, maternal sort of aura that she's supposed to have.

so who better than an oscar-winning mother who's a dead ringer for wonder woman anyway?

[Dark Knight]

somehow, i don't think joss whedon has the sense to consider someone like ms. connelly. it's sad, but somehow i don't see this movie becoming what it has enormous potential to become.


yeah....i see that also unfortunately. sigh.....

[Dark Knight]

i agree. i don't think wonder woman is supposed to be eternally young as much as she's supposed to be ageless. there's also supposed to be a maternal quality that she exudes. just like flash is the baby of the group, wonder woman is the obvious mother figure. i think casting someone just out of their teens is a big mistake because it takes away from that ageless, maternal sort of aura that she's supposed to have.

so who better than an oscar-winning mother who's a dead ringer for wonder woman anyway?

yeah...Connelly would be perfect! oh well....i guess we can keep dreaming...and think of what could have been......sigh...

[goldenboy]

Was WW supposed to be a particular age during her comic origin? Didn't Joss say this was going to be an origin story? Thought WW was hanging out with sorority girls back in the 40's, don't really know. And the suits are thinking franchise of course...

[Steelsheen]

early 20's...is 21-24....late is 27 -29.
27 is kind of a grey area, depending on how one looks like physically, 27 can be deemed early/ late 20s.

28 is definitely late 20s

i doubt Joss is gonna cast anyone 20-22 and looking so young. he may also just giving that range off the top of his head. we dont know if he gave any serious thought to that or just blurted it out so that he can say something about casting.

[superheromovies]

just my .02 here but Wonder Woman is supposed to be a *woman*. if they want to make a superhero movie with a young gal, make a wonder girl movie. There's no way a younger gal can bring the depth and maturity to the character, even looking at a young girl in the role will short change that, imho.

[goldenboy]

So apparently Lynda was 25 when the show first aired. She always looked womanly, not girlish. Depends on the individual I guess.

[superheromovies]

I get the feeling that was either for me or for A ;)


I think for sure it will be an unknown tho... which rules out most of the existing casting thread. :p

I honestly think if they go for an unknown then Jordan Bayne is the best candidate.

[terry78]

Basically, Wonder Woman is forever late 20's, 30-31 at the latest...so that's the age range they should go for, and if there be sequels, I would hope they can film them all at once, or as soon as the first finishes.

[Philly Phanboy]

I think for sure it will be an unknown tho... which rules out most of the existing casting thread. :p

I honestly think if they go for an unknown then Jordan Bayne is the best candidate.

Any idea how old or how tall Jordan is?

[superheromovies]

I found out just recently that she's been interviewed for a paper. I'm trying to get my scanner working so I can scan it in for folks but there are a couple of websites out there that I've been peeking at: jordanbayne.com and jordanbayne-online.com if you want to peek around for the info. I've been able to tag the webmaster to ask questions and get material so maybe you can try too. I do know that she does her own stunts and is not a short gal.

Any idea how old or how tall Jordan is?

[SolidRoar]

They are making an origin story, but in a different way according to Whedon. So I can see why she might be a bit younger than expected - I doubt she'll be that young, though. I really liked the guy's comments and for now, I have faith in him. I always said an unknown is the best way to go, too.

[SolidRoar]

Honestly i think early twenties is a big mistake. Not even Brandon Routh is that young. At this rate she is gonna be younger than the Flash and thats a huge mistake. I don't think someone that age can carry off the mature poise that Wonder Woman needs.See, the new Lois Lane is too young for the role, too, but they say she can pull-off a mature performance. The good thing about actresses in early 20's is that you can make them look younger and play scenes from the character's past, and you can make them look older for the rest of the movie. Such actresses are not easy to find, but they can find one if they wanted to.

[superheromovies]

But WW wasn't a gal when she won the contest or went out into the role, she was a grown woman. it's in the title? Wonder Woman not Wonder Girl aka Deborah Winger's role :)

See, the new Lois Lane is too young for the role, too, but they say she can pull-off a mature performance. The good thing about actresses in early 20's is that you can make them look younger and play scenes from the character's past, and you can make them look older for the rest of the movie. Such actresses are not easy to find, but they can find one if they wanted to.

[dnno1]

i agree. i don't think wonder woman is supposed to be eternally young as much as she's supposed to be ageless. there's also supposed to be a maternal quality that she exudes. just like flash is the baby of the group, wonder woman is the obvious mother figure. i think casting someone just out of their teens is a big mistake because it takes away from that ageless, maternal sort of aura that she's supposed to have.

so who better than an oscar-winning mother who's a dead ringer for wonder woman anyway?

I disagree with both you and Pimpernel, according to The Justice Society Fact File Wonder Woman (http://my.execpc.com/%7Eicicle/WONDERWOMAN.html) is considered immortal. I checked the DC Comics Secret Files and Origins website and fournd no info on her age. Although her physical age is not know it is assumed to be in the mid 20's to 30's (physically) and she ages very slowly -- conologically she is thousands of years old. As far as a 24 year old actress being able to play the part, Lynda Carter (a virtual unknown actress at the time) certainly was that age when she assumed the role for the television series back in 1975, so casting someone that young would not be unrealistic.

Looking at the movie and the franchise from a business standpoint. It would make sense to have a young actress play the role if your goal is to make 2-3 films. That way at 2-3 years per film a 24-30 year old would be about 32-39 by the third film. This leads into my final point which may be unrelated to the above argument. Whomever assumes the role of Wonder Woman must be forewarned that they will assume this mantle for the rest of their life (though it will be honorable). This means that they will be typecasted and could limit their carriers if there is no garuntee that other roles will be promised to them by the industry (let alone WB). My opinionated word of advice to whomever wants to try out for the role is, in addition to making sure the price is right, to make sure that there are some assurances that there will be opportunities to play other parts in the future.

Typecasted Actors/Actresses:

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1398079182
Clayton Moore
AKA The Lone
Ranger

http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/90113104
Adam West
AKA (the TV) Batman

http://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/452268817
Julie Newmar
AKA (the TV) Catwoman

http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/915946925
Johnny Weissmuller
AKA Tarzan

http://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/311377958
Lynda Carter
AKA Wonder Woman

See what I mean?

Dno

[pimpernel]

This is just sad. (http://www.moviehole.net/news/5314.html)

According to a report in today's Herald Sun, Brandon Davis's hot-water bottle, Mischa Barton, is another on Warner's "Wonder Woman" wish-list.

The hot little thespian - who, well, admit it, could be a snug fit for that "Wonder" Bra - is carving out a bit of a film career for herself, thanks to her popular stint on FOX's "The OC".

Barton recently completed a role in the comedy "The OH in Ohio" with Danny De Vito and Parker Posey, and next, stars in the Black Plague-tale "The Decameron". Could a loop in the Invisible Jet be next?

"Wonder Woman" writer/director Joss Whedon announced this week that he's looking for an actress in her early twenties to play the Amazon princess, and he has for once and all, confirmed that he won't be using any of his former "Buffy" or "Angel" cast members - namely Sarah Michelle Gellar or Charisma Carpenter - for the DC comic adaptation. Producer Joel Silver apparently favours Jessica Biel for the part. Naturally, she'll be one of a slew of young tweens to test.

Ironically, it was Barton's co-star, Rachel Bilson, who dressed up as "Wonder Woman" in a couple of episodes of TV's "The OC". She looked killer in the outfit - it's a wonder that she's not being considered?

[pimpernel]

I disagree with both you and Pimpernel, according to The Justice Society Fact File Wonder Woman (http://my.execpc.com/%7Eicicle/WONDERWOMAN.html) is considered immortal. I checked the DC Comics Secret Files and Origins website and fournd no info on her age. Although her physical age is not know it is assumed to be in the mid 20's to 30's (physically) and she ages very slowly -- conologically she is thousands of years old. As far as a 24 year old actress being able to play the part, Lynda Carter (a virtual unknown actress at the time) certainly was that age when she assumed the role for the television series back in 1975, so casting someone that young would not be unrealistic.

Looking at the movie and the franchise from a business standpoint. It would make sense to have a young actress play the role if your goal is to make 2-3 films. That way at 2-3 years per film a 24-30 year old would be about 32-39 by the third film. This leads into my final point which may be unrelated to the above argument. Whomever assumes the role of Wonder Woman must be forewarned that they will assume this mantle for the rest of their life (though it will be honorable). This means that they will be typecasted and could limit their carriers if there is no garuntee that other roles will be promised to them by the industry (let alone WB). My opinionated word of advice to whomever wants to try out for the role is, in addition to making sure the price is right, to make sure that there are some assurances that there will be opportunities to play other parts in the future.

Typecasted Actors/Actresses:

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1398079182
Clayton Moore
AKA The Lone
Ranger

http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/90113104
Adam West
AKA (the TV) Batman

http://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/452268817
Julie Newmar
AKA (the TV) Catwoman

http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/915946925
Johnny Weissmuller
AKA Tarzan

http://scd.mm-c.yimg.com/image/311377958
Lynda Carter
AKA Wonder Woman

See what I mean?

Dno

Dude disagree you like but its true. WW has also been shown as being the maternal one of the JLA. Physically she is usually out around the same age as Superman and Batman. Carter pulled it off cos she was a very mature looking 24 with (more importantly) a very mature persona... thats RARE for someone in their early twenties. Could they find someone mature and WOMANLY in their twenties? Sure they maybe could... but they are more likely to find someone thats just gonna look like a young hot wannabe.

[batdude]

Let's hope not.

[Webley]

I think Rachel Bilson would make a good looking Wonder Woman.
http://the.oc.free.fr/rachel10mini.gifhttp://www.muchatv.com/imgperson/3106-2.jpghttp://www.netglimse.com/images/celebs/bio/f-rachel_bilson.jpg
http://welcome.to.the.o.c.free.fr/rboc08.jpghttp://welcome.to.the.o.c.free.fr/rbpublic06.jpg

[Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Slipping_Halo
that whole spirit is the problem with the casting suggestions you guys have all been making: wonder woman is eternal, not eternally young.

a mid-20's actress would look fantastic and lure in lots of guys, including myself (although i WAS able to pass of Catwoman no matter how "hot" halle looked) but it won't be the personification of the maternal, ageless quality that wonder woman should possess. i just don't think an actress that is just out of her teens would cut it because she just won't capture that sort of eternity as an actress in her 30's would.

there are actresses such as Monica Bellucci or (my personal "god-put-her-on-earth-to-play-wonder-woman" girl) Jennifer Connelly, that don't look their age at all, are stunningly gorgeous, fantastic actresses, and can embody that sort of motherly aspect of wonder woman's character as well as being incredibly sexy and strong-willed women who i'd definitely be afraid of if they scowled at me.

i know WB is looking for a franchise, but 3 movies in a span of 6 or 7 years wouldn't age a woman like jennifer connelly or monica bellucci who have aged gracefully all these years so much that they'd be impossible to work with. if they watched their bodies to maintain an amazonian physique, they'd look friggin fantastic, and with their acting prowess, would be FAR more intimidating than jessica biel or someone like this.

i'm sure most of you won't agree, but i think someone older fits the role MUCH better than some new post-teen queen. there's just something in the eyes of an older woman that gives off that sort of appeal. maybe there's an early to mid-twenties actress out there that can do that, but i'd bank on the wisdom of an older, established (but not HUGELY BLOWN UP) actress to personify the role.





YEP! You hit the nail right on the head buddy! Exactly why Connelly really is the one to play Diana/WW. All she has to do is tone up and get in the best shape of her life. I would think and hope she would see this as a fantastic challenge in this stage of her career. She already is gorgeous, but an you imagine the sexyness, dedication, passion and hard work ethic she would she would bring to this role?? Plus her popularity would grow even more, Imean can you imagine her toned and in the best shape her life?? I godess~ yum! Lets rally guys and make it loud and clear that she should certainly be a contender for this role! I would have alot more confidence in Connelly ahead of any silly teen queen actress that is barely growing up. and The Batman agrees.....

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[pimpernel]

Where the hell did my Mischa Barton for Wonder Woman thread go? It was an article i found over at moviehole... i only made the thread this morning and it seems to have vanished???

[Steelsheen]

hmm, i was just reading it Pimp, i think it got merged with one o the threads somewhere.

edit: Pimp i found it. its on this thread, last post page 56 here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5329715#post5329715)

[pimpernel]

Ahhh thanks Steel. :up:

Damn thats just crazy moderating... its not a casting suggestion its a report of something that was found online. :rolleyes:

[GL1]

Mischa Barton... heh-heh... that would be something else, huh?

[Slipping_Halo]

forgive them, father, for they know not what they do....



JESUS CHRIST!!!!

[Philly Phanboy]

Mischa Barton is a better choice than Jessica Biel...but not by much.

[Slipping_Halo]

YEP! You hit the nail right on the head buddy! Exactly why Connelly really is the one to play Diana/WW. All she has to do is tone up and get in the best shape of her life. I would think and hope she would see this as a fantastic challenge in this stage of her career. She already is gorgeous, but an you imagine the sexyness, dedication, passion and hard work ethic she would she would bring to this role?? Plus her popularity would grow even more, Imean can you imagine her toned and in the best shape her life?? I godess~ yum! Lets rally guys and make it loud and clear that she should certainly be a contender for this role! I would have alot more confidence in Connelly ahead of any silly teen queen actress that is barely growing up. and The Batman agrees.....

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it's unfortunate that our opinion isn't shared by mr. whedon. we're going to find ourselves only drooling at the thought of what might have been because i can tell you right now there's NO way jennifer connelly's going to be offered the role. it's just not what they're going for. and if somehow complaining and debating on these boards made a difference to the guys in charge of making this movie and any other movie for that matter, i'd totally go full-on and make our voices heard. but since whedon probably has no clue about this site, and if he does, probably doesn't care, i'm just gonna keep on dreaming about connelly in those fantastic duds kicking major ass while carefully avoiding a nip-slip.

*sigh*

[pimpernel]

Mischa Barton is a better choice than Jessica Biel...but not by much.

What are you smoking and where can i get some?

[Steelsheen]

This is just sad. (http://www.moviehole.net/news/5314.html)

According to a report in today's Herald Sun, Brandon Davis's hot-water bottle, Mischa Barton, is another on Warner's "Wonder Woman" wish-list.

The hot little thespian - who, well, admit it, could be a snug fit for that "Wonder" Bra - is carving out a bit of a film career for herself, thanks to her popular stint on FOX's "The OC".

Barton recently completed a role in the comedy "The OH in Ohio" with Danny De Vito and Parker Posey, and next, stars in the Black Plague-tale "The Decameron". Could a loop in the Invisible Jet be next?

"Wonder Woman" writer/director Joss Whedon announced this week that he's looking for an actress in her early twenties to play the Amazon princess, and he has for once and all, confirmed that he won't be using any of his former "Buffy" or "Angel" cast members - namely Sarah Michelle Gellar or Charisma Carpenter - for the DC comic adaptation. Producer Joel Silver apparently favours Jessica Biel for the part. Naturally, she'll be one of a slew of young tweens to test.

Ironically, it was Barton's co-star, Rachel Bilson, who dressed up as "Wonder Woman" in a couple of episodes of TV's "The OC". She looked killer in the outfit - it's a wonder that she's not being considered?



oh hell no! :mad: Supes fans went real noisy against Barton when they were casting Lois. i'd be damned if we dont make a big deal about keeping Barton away from WW.

[pimpernel]

it's unfortunate that our opinion isn't shared by mr. whedon. we're going to find ourselves only drooling at the thought of what might have been because i can tell you right now there's NO way jennifer connelly's going to be offered the role. it's just not what they're going for. and if somehow complaining and debating on these boards made a difference to the guys in charge of making this movie and any other movie for that matter, i'd totally go full-on and make our voices heard. but since whedon probably has no clue about this site, and if he does, probably doesn't care, i'm just gonna keep on dreaming about connelly in those fantastic duds kicking major ass while carefully avoiding a nip-slip.

*sigh*

Connelly dammit. :( :( :(

[Philly Phanboy]

What are you smoking and where can i get some?

Don't tell me that Buggs has finally converted you to the Biel camp, pimp! :eek:

[pimpernel]

Don't tell me that Buggs has finally converted you to the Biel camp, pimp! :eek:

Hehe... i was never against Biel as such... i think they can do way better but i wouldn't cry if they cast her... i was just against Buggs' dumb ideas and his mad ranting that she was the only choice in the world. :rolleyes:

If it was between Biel and Barton theres no contest.

[Slipping_Halo]

Connelly dammit. :( :( :(


she would be soooo good.......*weeps*

you know, i'd love to hear her talk about it at the very least. see what she would say to being offered the role even if it isn't offered to her. i'd love to hear that.

[pimpernel]

Aye that would be interesting. I kow she said after Hulk that she didn't wanna do any more superhero movies... but theres a big difference between playing a supporting role in any old superhero film and playing the star role in potentially the greatest superheroine movie of all time... certainly the most famous... i think that would have changed her mind.

[batdude]

Conellly is too old, plus she was already in Hulk. Pimp, You did seem to be at least anti-Biel before. Misha Barton? I know what Joss said, but somebody at the studio seems desperate to get the young, hot name and not really care if she can act or not. If it was between the two of them, I'd take Biel in a heatbeat. :cool:

[Dark Knight]

Conellly is too old, plus she was already in Hulk. Pimp, You did seem to be at least anti-Biel before. Misha Barton? I know what Joss said, but somebody at the studio seems desperate to get the young, hot name and not really care if she can act or not. If it was between the two of them, I'd take Biel in a heatbeat. :cool:


what is it going to do..to make you realize that Connelly is NOT too old?? Dude, and your argument about her being in Hulk is weak......chances she will never be in the sequel to Hulk...IF it ever gets made. Plus what about Jessica Alba as Nancy in Sin City and Invisible Woman in FF? Don't hear anyone complaining about that one......and Singer put Marsden in as s upporting character in Supes film and he is Cyclops in the X films. I'll take an established solid, beautiful actress ahead of any teeny bopper that will cater to the MTV crowd. Plus Connelly will stil be popular with that demographic and the older women demographic also. If Whedon wants to show a younger version of Diana in his film in some scenes when she is in her teens and early 20's.....then he can cast an actress for those particular scenes. Connelly is the one for me.....i want a great actress with solid experience to play Wonder Woman.

[Dark Knight]

she would be soooo good.......*weeps*

you know, i'd love to hear her talk about it at the very least. see what she would say to being offered the role even if it isn't offered to her. i'd love to hear that.


yeah me also.....perhaps we should go to fansite and post messages that she would be perfect as Diana/WW. :rolleyes:

[Dark Knight]

it's unfortunate that our opinion isn't shared by mr. whedon. we're going to find ourselves only drooling at the thought of what might have been because i can tell you right now there's NO way jennifer connelly's going to be offered the role. it's just not what they're going for. and if somehow complaining and debating on these boards made a difference to the guys in charge of making this movie and any other movie for that matter, i'd totally go full-on and make our voices heard. but since whedon probably has no clue about this site, and if he does, probably doesn't care, i'm just gonna keep on dreaming about connelly in those fantastic duds kicking major ass while carefully avoiding a nip-slip.

*sigh*


it gonna be sad is she gets passed over......it really is.....sigh....

[batdude]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think Connelly is a mediocre actress at best. better than Barton, but that's setting the bar really low.

[Slipping_Halo]

Conellly is too old, plus she was already in Hulk. Pimp, You did seem to be at least anti-Biel before. Misha Barton? I know what Joss said, but somebody at the studio seems desperate to get the young, hot name and not really care if she can act or not. If it was between the two of them, I'd take Biel in a heatbeat. :cool:


first off, if you read my description of what i believe wonder woman should be, you would see that an older woman is ESSENTIAL.

second, connelly looks way younger than she actually is. she's only in her mid-30's and 3 movies wouldn't age someone enough to make her look like a hag by WW3. she's aged gracefully without working at it, imagine if she knew she was in for 3 films and kept herself in tip-top shape for it throughout the course of the 3 films?

third, i think that IN her mid-30's, jennifer looks more the role than she used to when she was in her 20's. if you take a look at "Hot Spot" or something like that, she doesn't look as much like our comic book Diana as much as she does in "House of Sand and Fog" or "Dark Water." an older woman is what is needed to give those eyes a sense of the ages and give that face a maternal quality that's needed to truly embody what wonder woman is. i'm sure pimpernel can hook me up with comparison shots to illustrate this, since i have no clue how to post pics.

fourth, being in another superhero movie makes no difference. they're actors. that's what they do. they morph and fit into different characters. realize that these people have played hundreds of characters in movies that take place in the "real universe," so why do we complain when they play more than one character in the "comic universe?" that's their job, fitting into roles and being characters.

as for her comment on not wanting to do superhero movies anymore, if that's how she feels then that's how she feels; but i agree with pimpernel in that a supporting role in one movie is not the same as the lead role as THE female heroine of comicdom.

[Slipping_Halo]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think Connelly is a mediocre actress at best. better than Barton, but that's setting the bar really low.

at least you know where you're at. :)

[Dark Knight]

first off, if you read my description of what i believe wonder woman should be, you would see that an older woman is ESSENTIAL.

second, connelly looks way younger than she actually is. she's only in her mid-30's and 3 movies wouldn't age someone enough to make her look like a hag by WW3. she's aged gracefully without working at it, imagine if she knew she was in for 3 films and kept herself in tip-top shape for it throughout the course of the 3 films?

third, i think that IN her mid-30's, jennifer looks more the role than she used to when she was in her 20's. if you take a look at "Hot Spot" or something like that, she doesn't look as much like our comic book Diana as much as she does in "House of Sand and Fog" or "Dark Water." an older woman is what is needed to give those eyes a sense of the ages and give that face a maternal quality that's needed to truly embody what wonder woman is. i'm sure pimpernel can hook me up with comparison shots to illustrate this, since i have no clue how to post pics.

fourth, being in another superhero movie makes no difference. they're actors. that's what they do. they morph and fit into different characters. realize that these people have played hundreds of characters in movies that take place in the "real universe," so why do we complain when they play more than one character in the "comic universe?" that's their job, fitting into roles and being characters.

as for her comment on not wanting to do superhero movies anymore, if that's how she feels then that's how she feels; but i agree with pimpernel in that a supporting role in one movie is not the same as the lead role as THE female heroine of comicdom.


exactly! the pros outway the cons..when it comes to casting a woman who is slightly over 30, who looks younger (like Connelly) than casting a teeny bopper type low- 20's girl who hasn't completely matured. Wonder Woman needs that adult quality to her......

[SolidRoar]

I wouldn't worry about casting now, like Whedon said himself. Don't forget that the media folks have their own ideas of the perfect WW. Honestly, I think it's all wishful thinking at this point. All that the article mentions is about the actress' desire for the role. There are obviously gonna be screen testing for all the contenders. Even Superman had such stupid castings early on - some even made it to the audition. It's too early, guys - don't worry about nothing at the moment.

[terry78]

Point blank, no matter who is chosen, no one will be satisfied, just like in real life. The only way to make her exactly like the comic would be to go the Final Fantasy/Polar Express route, and I know no one wants that...though it'd get rid of the pesky problem of her not being "enough like the comic version."

[Slipping_Halo]

i'd say that all we're doing at this point is giving our opinions on the matter of casting for argument's sake....but that's all we're EVER doing. media types don't read these threads, neither do producers, directors, or actors (i hope..). we're just mindlessly prating about this and that and expressing our opinions to one another.

all it's ever going to be is wishful thinking unless by some miracle someone who frequents these threads one day becomes a director of comic book adaptations and remembers the little people. at this point, we're just "the internet rumor mill" to these guys. anyone who thinks putting their thoughts down here will affect how a movie gets made is dreaming. i wish it wasn't so, but it is.

but it's fun to talk for the sake of talking to get other people's views and (in some cases) trash them mercilessly. it's all in good discussion, but it won't go much further than that.

and it's true, if i had my way, jennifer connelly would be the star of an incredibly deep and dramatic ass kicking female hero action flick and it would rule....to me. there will always be those guys who hate the plot or the actors or the dialogue. nobody can be happy all at once. even if someone was 100% faithful to the comic (yea, right), you'd have a hundred different interpretations IN the comic itself to choose from. there will be the guys who wanted Golden age wonder woman, and those who wanted jim lee's wonder woman. nobody can be happy all at once. even if they made it a computer animated movie, people would still be *****ing.

what's important is to encompass the SOUL of what the character and story is and do what you will from there. i respect a director who sticks with his vision, cuz if he listened to the banter on these threads, he'd go schizo. yea, raimi gave spiderman organic webshooters, and believe me, that pissed me off too, but WHATEVER. it's a good flick, and it was the basis of what spider-man is. that's good enough for me. if whedon holds true to the basis of what wonder woman is, it might be a good movie. if he screws THAT up, there's no hope. look at catwoman.

...or on second thought, don't.

[pimpernel]

Conellly is too old, plus she was already in Hulk. Pimp, You did seem to be at least anti-Biel before. Misha Barton? I know what Joss said, but somebody at the studio seems desperate to get the young, hot name and not really care if she can act or not. If it was between the two of them, I'd take Biel in a heatbeat. :cool:

I wasn't anti-Biel... i was anti-buggs... and seeing as how his arguments were all centred around Biel i can see how i might have come across as a Biel hater. I'm not. She isn't a very good choice IMO but she is better than a lot of other actresses... Barton for instance.

[pimpernel]

what is it going to do..to make you realize that Connelly is NOT too old?

Not gonna happen. Some folks just don't listen. I could plaster the board with pics taken last year where she looks no older than 25 and people would still say she is too old. :rolleyes:

[pimpernel]

Media types don't read these threads, neither do producers, directors, or actors.

They do. Someone (can't remember his name) working on Superman Returns mentioned one or two sites by name... plus people like Ryan Reynolds have been known to post here before... they read this stuff... they just don't pay much attention to it unless it is OVERWHELMINGLY telling them something... thats how they knew CINO was gonna bomb well in advance.

[batdude]

I just had a thought. do you think Biel and Barton have the same agent? I mean these rumors are coming from the same questionable site(moviehole) Could it be the same source?

[buggs0268]

it was rumored that Barton was testing for Lois in Superman, but she confirmed that she never even was contacted about anything to do with Superman Returns.

And remember that Connely was considered a teeny boper when she was in her early 20's. Anyone remember the Rocketeer? Every actress comes from somewhere that you can find what appears to be bad acting. Who would have thought that Jamie Foxx would have been such an Academy Award winning actor from Booty Call?

[Captain_Obvious]

Connelly :)

[pimpernel]

it was rumored that Barton was testing for Lois in Superman, but she confirmed that she never even was contacted about anything to do with Superman Returns.

And remember that Connely was considered a teeny boper when she was in her early 20's. Anyone remember the Rocketeer? Every actress comes from somewhere that you can find what appears to be bad acting. Who would have thought that Jamie Foxx would have been such an Academy Award winning actor from Booty Call?

Connelly was never considered a teeny-bopper. She has been acting since childhood and she was always a good actress but she got typecasted for a while in roles where all she had to do was look pretty and get her boobies out... thats what happens in Hollywood when you aren't shy about stripping. I own the Rocketeer and i defy you to tell me she gave a bad performance in that. :p

The point is with most actors or actresses if they give a not so hot performance in one film they give a good one in the next one or the one after or whatever... the talent always shows through. With a truly bad actor or actress that doesn't happen so you can spot them easily.

[pimpernel]

I just had a thought. do you think Biel and Barton have the same agent? I mean these rumors are coming from the same questionable site(moviehole) Could it be the same source?

I think its more likely that the guys at Moviehole regularly try to drum up interest in their site by claiming to have "scoops" that are really nothing of the sort. The Biel/Basinger thing was never confirmed by anyone and pretty much every other site that reported it said it seemed dodgy. Plus we now know from Joss himself that casting will NOT be considered anytime within the next few months. The Barton thing isn't even a story... it just amounts to some guys saying "wouldn't it be cool if..."

Moviehole is a joke.

[superheromovies]

no offense dude, but I know the guy that edits the WW column tries his best to check out information. he actually contacted jordan bayne's agent and verified that she'd been contacted about the movie. hmm, come to think of it, I'm going to have to dig for that one.


I think its more likely that the guys at Moviehole regularly try to drum up interest in their site by claiming to have "scoops" that are really nothing of the sort. The Biel/Basinger thing was never confirmed by anyone and pretty much every other site that reported it said it seemed dodgy. Plus we now know from Joss himself that casting will NOT be considered anytime within the next few months. The Barton thing isn't even a story... it just amounts to some guys saying "wouldn't it be cool if..."

Moviehole is a joke.

[Slipping_Halo]

They do. Someone (can't remember his name) working on Superman Returns mentioned one or two sites by name... plus people like Ryan Reynolds have been known to post here before... they read this stuff... they just don't pay much attention to it unless it is OVERWHELMINGLY telling them something... thats how they knew CINO was gonna bomb well in advance.


that's interesting. well, i'm glad to see that i was wrong there. so lets put a huge campaign out there for connelly and hope they hear it. who's with me???

[Steelsheen]

that's interesting. well, i'm glad to see that i was wrong there. so lets put a huge campaign out there for connelly and hope they hear it. who's with me???
Connelly i belive was already mentioned to Whedon, and he kinda side-stepped that. his polite way of saying "no".

edit: typos i hate

[pimpernel]

no offense dude, but I know the guy that edits the WW column tries his best to check out information. he actually contacted jordan bayne's agent and verified that she'd been contacted about the movie. hmm, come to think of it, I'm going to have to dig for that one.

Theres a regular WW column at Moviehole?

Whatever. Explain to me how some dumbass called Muscles can totally make up a story on SHH about Brandon Routh being fired and replaced with Tom Welling on Superman Returns and Moviehole with its so-called fact-checkers report this as an actual bona fide fact?

I stand by my statement... they are a joke.

I'm not saying they don't try to check facts... i'm ssure they did phone Jordan Bayne's agent. But i'm also sure that when they can't verify a story they run with it anyways. You can't deny that nobody has ever confirmed the Biel/Basinger thing and that now Joss has pretty much debunked it. You also can't deny that the Mischa Barton thing is just some guy spouting off about his current fave choice.

[pimpernel]

Connelly i belive wa already mentioned to Whedon, and he kinda side-stepped that. his polite way of saying "no".

Exactly... unfortunately we are not gonna get Connelly or probably any other actress in the casting thread except MAYBE Bayne or Biel.

[Phantomex]

Should probably just open up a new casting thread when they get the actual Wonder Woman forum up and running. A fresh start given that there is actual progress on this movie now.

[Slipping_Halo]

Connelly i belive was already mentioned to Whedon, and he kinda side-stepped that. his polite way of saying "no".

edit: typos i hate


really, how do you know this?

[Steelsheen]

really, how do you know this?
it was on one of the articles of a guy gettting to speak with Whedon afte the LA Con. its in here somewhere, there's only a few official articles on Whedon and WW anyway.

[Dark Knight]

talked to three of my girlfriends today about genre movies and that Wonder Woman is being developed and that may get an actress in her early to mid 20's. All three said, an actress in their early to mid- 20's would be too young for WW. I mentioned older in their 30's actress' and when Connelly's name came up.....they all really liked her! The main reasons as to why they could see her as WW, is her naturally beautiful facial features and her piercing eyes, along with her persona and good acting ability. They all said, that the way she carries herself is a big upside. She doesn't act like premadona....and she doesn't go out of her way to overexpose herself. She acts like the consumate professional that she surely is. There is alot of us in here who really like her to play WW....and they basically agreed, and that she would be better than any Lindsay Lohan, Sara Michelle Gellar, or Jessica Biel types out there. Thats at least 3 cool chicks that i know....that could see Connelly as WW.....I'll keep doing more research from other chicks that i know that like movies......should be fun! I mentioned that Whedon may want an unknown...and they all were like..."wow?" "why?" or then they changed the subject and the excitement of the conversation ended. You guys should start your own research from the chicks that you know.....should be intriguing.

[Slipping_Halo]

nice.


so wait, i'm such a dork i have no clue how to find this info about whedon being asked about connelly....help??

[terry78]

talked to three of my girlfriends today about genre movies and that Wonder Woman is being developed and that may get an actress in her early to mid 20's. All three said, an actress in their early to mid- 20's would be too young for WW. I mentioned older in their 30's actress' and when Connelly's name came up.....they all really like her! The main reasons as to why they could see her as WW, is her naturally beautiful facial features and her piercing eyes, along with her persona and good acting ability. Thye all said, that the way she carries herself is a big upside. She doesn't act like premadona....and she doesn't go out of her way to overexpose herself. She acts like the consumate professional that she surely is. Then is alot of us in here really like her to play WW....and they basically agreed, that she woulkd be better than any Lindsay Lohan, Sara Michelle Gellar, or Jessica Biel types out there. Thats at least 3 cool chicks that i know....that could see Connelly as WW.....I'll keep doing more research from other chicks that i know that like movies......should be fun! I mentioned that Whedon may want an unknown...and they all were like...wow? why? or then they changed the subject and the excitement of the conversation ended. You guys should start your own research from the chicks that you know.....should be intriguing.


C'mon, what do chicks know about WW?:p

Seriously, that's not a bad idea.

[Dark Knight]

C'mon, what do chicks know about WW?:p

Seriously, that's not a bad idea.


haha....chicks will be a huge demographic that will be attracted to a WW film....just as long as it is not campy and silly. Oh and one of them said they saw Catwoman.....and thought it was okay and entertaining....but then i said, the writers and producers ruined it, because that was not the REAL Catwoman.....and she was like "yeah, Michelle Pfeifers Selina Kyle was better.....where was Selina?" Do your own research with the chicks....see what they say..... :up:

[superheromovies]

if I'm not mistaken, the person that writes for the superman news is a different person than the ww news but I have noticed the supers part is.. ermm... not checked out regularly, so yes, you are right on that part. that's why I get my info from a different place when it comes to supes news ;)




Theres a regular WW column at Moviehole?

Whatever. Explain to me how some dumbass called Muscles can totally make up a story on SHH about Brandon Routh being fired and replaced with Tom Welling on Superman Returns and Moviehole with its so-called fact-checkers report this as an actual bona fide fact?

I stand by my statement... they are a joke.

I'm not saying they don't try to check facts... i'm ssure they did phone Jordan Bayne's agent. But i'm also sure that when they can't verify a story they run with it anyways. You can't deny that nobody has ever confirmed the Biel/Basinger thing and that now Joss has pretty much debunked it. You also can't deny that the Mischa Barton thing is just some guy spouting off about his current fave choice.

[SolidRoar]

Hmm.. are there new casting news/rumours I didn't know about? When did Joss talk about Connelly and when did Moviehole mention Bayne? :confused:

[Slipping_Halo]

Hmm.. are there new casting news/rumours I didn't know about? When did Joss talk about Connelly and when did Moviehole mention Bayne? :confused:


yea, i'm surprised i never heard about this. you'd think i would. haha. but someone said it's around here somewhere, but i have no clue where to look.

[Dark Knight]

i'd say that all we're doing at this point is giving our opinions on the matter of casting for argument's sake....but that's all we're EVER doing. media types don't read these threads, neither do producers, directors, or actors (i hope..). we're just mindlessly prating about this and that and expressing our opinions to one another.

all it's ever going to be is wishful thinking unless by some miracle someone who frequents these threads one day becomes a director of comic book adaptations and remembers the little people. at this point, we're just "the internet rumor mill" to these guys. anyone who thinks putting their thoughts down here will affect how a movie gets made is dreaming. i wish it wasn't so, but it is.

but it's fun to talk for the sake of talking to get other people's views and (in some cases) trash them mercilessly. it's all in good discussion, but it won't go much further than that.

and it's true, if i had my way, jennifer connelly would be the star of an incredibly deep and dramatic ass kicking female hero action flick and it would rule....to me. there will always be those guys who hate the plot or the actors or the dialogue. nobody can be happy all at once. even if someone was 100% faithful to the comic (yea, right), you'd have a hundred different interpretations IN the comic itself to choose from. there will be the guys who wanted Golden age wonder woman, and those who wanted jim lee's wonder woman. nobody can be happy all at once. even if they made it a computer animated movie, people would still be *****ing.

what's important is to encompass the SOUL of what the character and story is and do what you will from there. i respect a director who sticks with his vision, cuz if he listened to the banter on these threads, he'd go schizo. yea, raimi gave spiderman organic webshooters, and believe me, that pissed me off too, but WHATEVER. it's a good flick, and it was the basis of what spider-man is. that's good enough for me. if whedon holds true to the basis of what wonder woman is, it might be a good movie. if he screws THAT up, there's no hope. look at catwoman.

...or on second thought, don't.


great way to remind some folks in here of what this is all truely about.

and it's true, if i had my way, jennifer connelly would be the star of an incredibly deep and dramatic ass kicking female hero action flick and it would rule....to me.

Oh yeah.....you have the same vision as me my friend! :up:

[BT18]

Don't you think it's time to start a poll for actresses who actually are in the running now?

Let's start a list of people who meet that qualification and other general WW attributes (namely height and/or other physical similarities) as well. And the age limit should be 26 (which is pushing it considering what they STATED)

Jessica Biel
Kim Smith
Mandy Moore
Rachel Nichols
Rosario Dawson
Sienna Miller
Kristanna Loken

any others?

[Dark Knight]

Don't you think it's time to start a poll for actresses who actually are in the running now?

Let's start a list of people who meet that qualification and other general WW attributes (namely height and/or other physical similarities) as well. And the age limit should be 26 (which is pushing it considering what they STATED)

Jessica Biel
Kim Smith
Mandy Moore
Rachel Nichols
Rosario Dawson
Sienna Miller
Kristanna Loken

any others?

screw the 20 year old as WW casting choices.....

Connelly dang it!

[pimpernel]

Hmm.. are there new casting news/rumours I didn't know about? When did Joss talk about Connelly and when did Moviehole mention Bayne? :confused:

I'm not sure who mentioned Bayne but there was definately a rumour about amonth back that she had been contacted and asked by the producers to send some headshots.

As for Connelly it was SHH regular Motown Marvel thats spoke to him (he is reliable) and got the soundbite about Joss wanting an unknown... i can't remember if he specifically asked about Connelly tho or if he just wanted to.

[pimpernel]

Just found the link here. (http://www.dc-on-film.com/wonderwoman/index.php?entity=ww)

It wasn't Joss he spoke to but i guess he was still pretty firm about it.

[pimpernel]

Don't you think it's time to start a poll for actresses who actually are in the running now?

Let's start a list of people who meet that qualification and other general WW attributes (namely height and/or other physical similarities) as well. And the age limit should be 26 (which is pushing it considering what they STATED)

Jessica Biel
Kim Smith
Mandy Moore
Rachel Nichols
Rosario Dawson
Sienna Miller
Kristanna Loken

any others?

Are you smoking crack? Sienna Miller? Mandy Moore? Half those actresses are crap choices. Its no good just plucking the names of twenty-somethings out of thin air and making a poll. Based on what we actually know there are only two names that could realistically go in a poll right now: Bayne, Biel... maybe Satu Rautaharju. Anyone else added to that list is just pointless fanboy speculation... shooting in the dark.

[BT18]

Are you smoking crack? Sienna Miller? Mandy Moore? Half those actresses are crap choices. Its no good just plucking the names of twenty-somethings out of thin air and making a poll. Based on what we actually know there are only two names that could realistically go in a poll right now: Bayne, Biel... maybe Satu Rautaharju. Anyone else added to that list is just pointless fanboy speculation... shooting in the dark.

Maybe it would be no good if that's what I was doing retard. I'm not making a poll. I'm starting a list and asking people to add to it. They aren't my choices, whether you think they're crap or not. They're people who would meet the qualifications.

[BT18]

screw the 20 year old as WW casting choices.....

Connelly dang it!

How did I know I'd get these pointless wah-wah-wah-wah responses. Your want for someone who's hit the wall does not change what Whedon has stated.

[pimpernel]

Maybe it would be no good if that's what I was doing retard. I'm not making a poll. I'm starting a list and asking people to add to it. They aren't my choices, whether you think they're crap or not. They're people who would meet the qualifications.

Ahem...

Don't you think it's time to start a poll for actresses who actually are in the running now?

I don't appreciate being called a retard by someone with as low an IQ as you clearly have. :rolleyes:

[Dark Knight]

How did I know I'd get these pointless wah-wah-wah-wah responses. Your want for someone who's hit the wall does not change what Whedon has stated.


Connelly.....hit the wall???? Your ARE nuts! lol....haha :confused: :joker:

[pimpernel]

Connelly and Biel side-by-side and with minimal make-up... i defy anyone to tell me Connelly looks older than Biel...

http://tinypic.com/2cc840

Hit the wall my ass. :rolleyes:

[SolidRoar]

Thanks, Pimp. Yeah, that pretty much confirms that he wants an unknown. Good decision, IMO - although each of us got their dream choice. About what editors say, though, I'm not believing anyone now when it comes to casting. I think they just want to state their own choice for the role and want to start rumours hoping that someone would support them.

[pimpernel]

Thanks, Pimp. Yeah, that pretty much confirms that he wants an unknown. Good decision, IMO - although each of us got their dream choice. About what editors say, though, I'm not believing anyone now when it comes to casting. I think they just want to state their own choice for the role and want to start rumours hoping that someone would support them.

Exactly... thats all most of the rumours are... people pushing their own personal choices. You've seen how vehement folks get over casting... like you said everyone has their dream choice... the only way to please everyone is to ignore them all and give them someone totally new. Or Connelly. :p

[dnno1]

I’d say that all we're doing at this point is giving our opinions on the matter of casting for argument's sake....but that's all we're EVER doing. Media types don't read these threads; neither do producers, directors, or actors (I hope). We’re just mindlessly prating about this and that and expressing our opinions to one another.

All it's ever going to be is wishful thinking unless by some miracle someone who frequents these threads one day becomes a director of comic book adaptations and remembers the little people. At this point, we're just "the internet rumor mill" to these guys. Anyone who thinks putting their thoughts down here will affect how a movie gets made is dreaming. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.

But it's fun to talk for the sake of talking to get other people's views and (in some cases) trash them mercilessly. It’s all in good discussion, but it won't go much further than that...

Don't be so down on the fact that things may not be going your way, Slip. If you will notice we are actually (although stratified) a sample of the population that will be watching this movie and the majority of us (although small at 22%) want to see an unknown for the role (based on the poll taken on this thread). We all just can not agree on who that unknown will be -- I guess that's why its an unknown.

I believe that this sample is a good reflection of what the movie going public wants to see in the movie (specifically those who will be fans of this movie). I am quite sure that the WB's marketing research group are anonymously taking similar polls and surveys and will most likely be getting similar results. I feel that other polls should be taken at this board to see what other things people would like to see regarding the movie. I am pretty confident that it will give us a good idea about what will most likely be in the movie.

Dno

[The Sage]

Whedon should aim for mid to late 20s. Only go for early 20s if you come across another Reeve or Carter, someone who looks mature and acts mature at that age.

[Slipping_Halo]

How did I know I'd get these pointless wah-wah-wah-wah responses. Your want for someone who's hit the wall does not change what Whedon has stated.


hit the wall? yea, with your face while wearing blue star-studded panties....biatch


Don't be so down on the fact that things may not be going your way, Slip. If you will notice we are actually (although stratified) a sample of the population that will be watching this movie and the majority of us (although small at 22%) want to see an unknown for the role (based on the poll taken on this thread). We all just can not agree on who that unknown will be -- I guess that's why its an unknown.

I believe that this sample is a good reflection of what the movie going public wants to see in the movie (specifically those who will be fans of this movie). I am quite sure that the WB's marketing research group are anonymously taking similar polls and surveys and will most likely be getting similar results. I feel that other polls should be taken at this board to see what other things people would like to see regarding the movie. I am pretty confident that it will give us a good idea about what will most likely be in the movie.

Dno

i'm not really down so much as i was trying to be realistic there. i mean, connelly's my dream choice, but of course an unknown could really kick ass if she can act. i just believe connelly's a dead ringer because it's obvious she can act and she looks the part. but hey, schit happens...i just hope it don't stink up the entire theater.

[dnno1]

I'm not really down so much as I was trying to be realistic there. I mean, connelly's my dream choice, but of course an unknown could really kick ass if she can act. I just believe connelly's a dead ringer because it's obvious she can act and she looks the part. but hey, schit happens... I just hope it don't stink up the entire theater.

Well, that's good that you are not down. Jennifer Connelly is a beautiful woman. She was the perfect choice for Betty in "The Rocketeer", which was one of my favorite comic series, and I thought she was beautiful then.

http://www.electroephemera.com/cellwrap/images/rocketeer.jpg
Jennifer Connely and Bill Cambel from The Rocketeer:
Bill is smiling because he was the luckiest man in the world
at that momnet.

Today, with an Oscar under her belt, she can certainly pick and choose the movies she wants to play in and ask for top dollar ($20M +) to do it. She does not need to risk being typcasted by playing the role of a superheroine in a comic book movie (especially if it goes bust) anymore. Besides, this is a new era and I think its time for new blood to get their chance to become a star. I keep trying to plug Manuella Arcuri (an Italian film starlet) just to add a twist to the character. I think that the movie should be more realistic to the fact that Wonder Woman is actually a foriegner and that it would be understandable if she spoke with an accent (In fact I would encourage it from any actress who decides to play the role). But that's just my opinion.

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1180013354 (http://powersurge.macbay.de/DesktopBilder/manuela_arcuri_6.jpg)
Manuela Arcuri
(Click on picture to see
a larger image)

Dno

[Slipping_Halo]

Well, that's good that you are not down. Jennifer Connelly is a beautiful woman. She was the perfect choice for Betty in "The Rocketeer", which was one of my favorite comic series, and I thought she was beautiful then.

http://www.electroephemera.com/cellwrap/images/rocketeer.jpg
Jennifer Connely and Bill Cambel from The Rocketeer:
Bill is smiling because he was the luckiest man in the world
at that momnet.


god she's gorgeous.

Today, with an Oscar under her belt, she can certainly pick and choose the movies she wants to play in and ask for top dollar ($20M +) to do it. She does not need to risk being typcasted by playing the role of a superheroine in a comic book movie (especially if it goes bust) anymore. Besides, this is a new era and I think its time for new blood to get their chance to become a star. I keep trying to plug Manuella Arcuri (an Italian film starlet) just to add a twist to the character. I think that the movie should be more realistic to the fact that Wonder Woman is actually a foriegner and that it would be understandable if she spoke with an accent (In fact I would encourage it from any actress who decides to play the role). But that's just my opinion.

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1180013354 (http://powersurge.macbay.de/DesktopBilder/manuela_arcuri_6.jpg)
Manuela Arcuri
(Click on picture to see
a larger image)

Dno

she's still gorgeous now. but to each his own. :)

[Dark Knight]

Don't be so down on the fact that things may not be going your way, Slip. If you will notice we are actually (although stratified) a sample of the population that will be watching this movie and the majority of us (although small at 22%) want to see an unknown for the role (based on the poll taken on this thread). We all just can not agree on who that unknown will be -- I guess that's why its an unknown.

I believe that this sample is a good reflection of what the movie going public wants to see in the movie (specifically those who will be fans of this movie). I am quite sure that the WB's marketing research group are anonymously taking similar polls and surveys and will most likely be getting similar results. I feel that other polls should be taken at this board to see what other things people would like to see regarding the movie. I am pretty confident that it will give us a good idea about what will most likely be in the movie.

Dno


why would most people want an unknown??? and what poll are you talking about?? I'll bet you most of the movie going public...would be more excited to see Connelly over any unknown out there...and especially any Biel, Lohan, Gellar, Hewitt type out there also. If you know plenty of chicks......you should do a little research study with them...about what they would want to see in a WW and ask them if it is better to see a matured woman in her 30's like Connelly, or some tenny bopper girl in her low to mid -20's.....i'll bet most of them would pick Connelly.....try it out.....i styarted my own research yesterday...and i will continue it today, with someother chicks i know....

[Dark Knight]

hit the wall? yea, with your face while wearing blue star-studded panties....biatch




i'm not really down so much as i was trying to be realistic there. i mean, connelly's my dream choice, but of course an unknown could really kick ass if she can act. i just believe connelly's a dead ringer because it's obvious she can act and she looks the part. but hey, schit happens...i just hope it don't stink up the entire theater.



if it aint the one who was born to play WW (Connelly) then.....yes, whoever it is better not stink up the theater! What a nightmare that would be.....however, lets hope that Connelly turns out to be a contender for the role and is given a chance to give a read or test for Whedon at the very least!

[Phantomex]

Your assuming she even wants the job.

[pimpernel]

if it aint the one who was born to play WW (Connelly) then.....yes, whoever it is better not stink up the theater! What a nightmare that would be.....however, lets hope that Connelly turns out to be a contender for the role and is given a chance to give a read or test for Whedon at the very least!

You could always start a website... or visit some of her fansites and persuade them to start up petitions or something? Just an idea but you have a few months to drum up some interest before Joss casts this so you could get a lot done. I'd sign up for sure. :p

[Dark Knight]

Your assuming she even wants the job.


well.....here is hoping! The script will have to be good though to attract her to the role obviously.

[pimpernel]

Your assuming she even wants the job.

Whether she wants it or not she is perfect for it and should at least be offered first refusal.

[GL1]

Connelly is a great choice for a WW movie... she's not good to build a WW franchise on... age, popularity, typecasting and all that come into it and she's not the ideal for the long run...

Another thing, hard to accept: but how much an actress looks like an artist's version isn't a main casting issue. The focus is can she carry the part, can she convince audience members that she is this regal ambassador cum Superheroine. After that, the costumers dye her hair if need be and her physical trainer gets her into shape. If her face looks like that of a superhero, it doesn't matter whether or not she looks like any given drawing of Diana.

As for the most interesting pick so far, imho: Micha Barton is a WB actress on a teen drama show, which counts against her on SHH (although I'm sure WB wouldn't mad they already have her...), but she also has a very classic mutable look... a VERY decent filmography for a 20-year old... including the superhero trademark: Time spent on a Soap Opera such as All my children (1996)

I'm sure there's some 'superior' unknown somewhere out there, but why spend time and money looking for this mythical unknown when you have a great actress on hand?

And remember, this is Joss Whedon's WW... not Micheal Turner's or Walter Simonson's WW... Micha Barton is pretty high up there on the 'as good as it gets' scale...

[pimpernel]

As for the most interesting pick so far, imho: Micha Barton is a WB actress on a teen drama show, which counts against her on SHH (although I'm sure WB wouldn't mad they already have her...), but she also has a very classic mutable look... a VERY decent filmography for a 20-year old... including the superhero trademark: Time spent on a Soap Opera such as All my children (1996)

I'm sure there's some 'superior' unknown somewhere out there, but why spend time and money looking for this mythical unknown when you have a great actress on hand?

You just lost any respect i had for you. :p

[batdude]

The thing to remember is sequels. Even if you could get Connelly to do one, she couldn't do 2-3 more.This would also apply to better choices like Catherine Zeta Jones or Charisma Carpenter. Yes things like personal trainers and hair dye can be used, but they are not miracle workers and I'd like to have at least the possiblity of a sequel.

[pimpernel]

Have you seen recent pics of Connelly? She could EASILY do two more at least.

Anyways i'm not specifically pushing Connelly... just saying Barton is a huge NO.

[batdude]

Pimp, we agree on Barton! She's not even the hottest girl on her own show. That would be Rachel Bilson, who I'd consider if she was taller.

[BT18]

In regard to Mischa Barton, first of all, she's on a fox show. Second of all, even OC fans (those dumb, sheepish, tools) admit that she's the worst actor on the show. And that show isn't exactly the Sopranos.

And it's really great how seemingly, because you want-an-old-actress people say so, that every young actress you chose to deem a "teeny-bopper" is one. News flash, 95 percent of the roles available to teen and early 20's actors and actresses come from the WB/Fox/Network sitcom/Slasher movie/gross-out teen movie/ industrial comlplex. The middle aged and old people that run Hollywood pretty much reserve all the manufactured aclaim and respect for themselves. Christopher Reeve was a frigging soap operah actor before Superman. You don't get any more mindnumbingly worthless entertainment than that. So please, if you have an original argument make one, but stop pretending that Whedon hasn't stated that early 20's is what he's looking at for the role, and that if you whine about it, you might change that.

[Dark Knight]

Connelly is a great choice for a WW movie... she's not good to build a WW franchise on... age, popularity, typecasting and all that come into it and she's not the ideal for the long run...

Another thing, hard to accept: but how much an actress looks like an artist's version isn't a main casting issue. The focus is can she carry the part, can she convince audience members that she is this regal ambassador cum Superheroine. After that, the costumers dye her hair if need be and her physical trainer gets her into shape. If her face looks like that of a superhero, it doesn't matter whether or not she looks like any given drawing of Diana.

As for the most interesting pick so far, imho: Micha Barton is a WB actress on a teen drama show, which counts against her on SHH (although I'm sure WB wouldn't mad they already have her...), but she also has a very classic mutable look... a VERY decent filmography for a 20-year old... including the superhero trademark: Time spent on a Soap Opera such as All my children (1996)

I'm sure there's some 'superior' unknown somewhere out there, but why spend time and money looking for this mythical unknown when you have a great actress on hand?

And remember, this is Joss Whedon's WW... not Micheal Turner's or Walter Simonson's WW... Micha Barton is pretty high up there on the 'as good as it gets' scale...


talk about franchises is a bit too premature don't you think?? If Connelly was considered and cast....then it wouldn't be any problem having her be an a sequel. All this crap about getting an unknown 20 year old actress is a joke IMO. I hope Joel Silver realizes this......but we'll see...

[Phantomex]

In regard to Mischa Barton, first of all, she's on a fox show. Second of all, even OC fans (those dumb, sheepish, tools) admit that she's the worst actor on the show. And that show isn't exactly the Sopranos.

And it's really great how seemingly, because you want-an-old-actress people say so, that every young actress you chose to deem a "teeny-bopper" is one. News flash, 95 percent of the roles available to teen and early 20's actors and actresses come from the WB/Fox/Network sitcom/Slasher movie/gross-out teen movie/ industrial comlplex. The middle aged and old people that run Hollywood pretty much reserve all the manufactured aclaim and respect for themselves. Christopher Reeve was a frigging soap operah actor before Superman. You don't get any more mindnumbingly worthless entertainment than that. So please, if you have an original argument make one, but stop pretending that Whedon hasn't stated that early 20's is what he's looking at for the role, and that if you whine about it, you might change that.

Bravo.

[Dark Knight]

In regard to Mischa Barton, first of all, she's on a fox show. Second of all, even OC fans (those dumb, sheepish, tools) admit that she's the worst actor on the show. And that show isn't exactly the Sopranos.

And it's really great how seemingly, because you want-an-old-actress people say so, that every young actress you chose to deem a "teeny-bopper" is one. News flash, 95 percent of the roles available to teen and early 20's actors and actresses come from the WB/Fox/Network sitcom/Slasher movie/gross-out teen movie/ industrial comlplex. The middle aged and old people that run Hollywood pretty much reserve all the manufactured aclaim and respect for themselves. Christopher Reeve was a frigging soap operah actor before Superman. You don't get any more mindnumbingly worthless entertainment than that. So please, if you have an original argument make one, but stop pretending that Whedon hasn't stated that early 20's is what he's looking at for the role, and that if you whine about it, you might change that.

actually..you may call it whining......i call it making VERY VALID points as to why going with a complete unknown in her low to mid 20's would be a mistake.....

[Phantomex]

But that doesn't change that an unknown in their low to mid 20's is what they seem to be looking for. So just yelling Connely over and over again doesn't help.

[BT18]

actually..you may call it whining......i call it making VERY VALID points as to why going with a complete unknown in her low to mid 20's would be a mistake.....

Well my post was more in reaction to the desperate "teeny-bopper" attack thrown at people KNOWN who are of that age that I suggested, if they were unknown I really couldn't have made those suggestions.

And they were just people who met the qualifications that I could think of, not people I was dying to play her. But think deserve an audition or consideration atleast.

It was also a request to damper the speculation about people too old to be in the pool of actresses that the filmmakers have stated they will be considering.

[superheromovies]

that's 3 ;)

I have two jordan bayne



one word

Catherine Zeta Jones

http://images.sliceoftheday.com/catherine_zeta-jones/catherine15.jpg

Here she is doing the old Lynda Carter twirly costume change...
http://images.sliceoftheday.com/catherine_zeta-jones/catherine23.jpg

here she is just being pretty
http://images.sliceoftheday.com/catherine_zeta-jones/catherine18.jpg

[superheromovies]

I believe they're looking for that because anyone 'known' would be detracting from the character itself and frankly, considering we've waited this long for a WW movie, I want it to be perfect and totally focused on WW.

But that doesn't change that an unknown in their low to mid 20's is what they seem to be looking for. So just yelling Connely over and over again doesn't help.

[Dark Knight]

But that doesn't change that an unknown in their low to mid 20's is what they seem to be looking for. So just yelling Connely over and over again doesn't help.


i'm not yelling i'm making valid points........and who said that Whedon and Silver wanted an unknown in their 20's? Has that been confirmed or made official?? Or is it a rumour?

[Dark Knight]

I believe they're looking for that because anyone 'known' would be detracting from the character itself and frankly, considering we've waited this long for a WW movie, I want it to be perfect and totally focused on WW.


wow.....it's amazing how some of you have the mistaken mentality that if the actress who plays a comic character is a known actor.....then it will AUTOMATICALLY detract from the main characters essence onscreen???? Thats a bad way to think......i'll take a solid experienced actress over any unknown that has a lack of experience any day of the week. And also...the arguments that say a known actress such as Connelly... would detract or would add "baggage" to the production is an absolute insult to an actress' of Miss Connelly's caliber. Some of you are unbelievable.....

[terry78]

wow.....it's amazing how some of you have the mistaken mentality that if the actress who plays a comic character is a known actor.....then it will AUTOMATICALLY detract from the main characters essence onscreen???? Thats a bad way to think......i'll take a solid experienced actress over any unknown that has a lack of experience any day of the week. And also...the arguments that say a known actress such as Connelly... would detract or would add "baggage" to the production is an absolute insult to an actress' of Miss Connelly's caliber. Some of you are unbelievable.....
Though the concept of the "unknown actor" has been a staple of comics, tv shows, and books turned film since the beginning of time, as many claim that it would make them see said actor, not the character they envision. It's not really all that valid, but that's how a lot of people think.

[FVD]

Has anybody suggested Sienna Guillory yet? The hottie who played Jill Valentine on Resident Evil: Apocalypse. If she hasn't been mentioned then I hereby cast her name before the ballot box.

FVD.

[superheromovies]

it's amazing how some have the mistaken mentality that the unknown actress wouldn't bring justice to the character -- AND let the WW character shine through without sharing the 'stage' as it were with a known actress. a production company is in to make the money. an unknown would be cheaper to pay and would not bring with them stipulations that have to be met that a known actress most likely would. Look at how long the project itself had been dragged on because Bullock wanted control over the script and to be pretty much the stamp of approval on the movie itself. Look at the payroll that would have to be spent if someone that calls for at least a million dollars per role or pretty much near it.

An unknown to mainstream hollywood does not mean a lack of talent. Far from it, otherwise none of us would visually see the following when talking about a role:

Christopher Reeve = Superman
Lynda Carter = Wonder Woman
Lucy Lawless = Xena
Kevin Sorbo = Hercules
Lindsey Wagner = Bionic Woman
Lou Ferregno (sp) = Incredible Hulk
SMG = Buffy
David Boreanez = Angel
Eliza Dushku = Faith

and the list goes on and on and on.




wow.....it's amazing how some of you have the mistaken mentality that if the actress who plays a comic character is a known actor.....then it will AUTOMATICALLY detract from the main characters essence onscreen???? Thats a bad way to think......i'll take a solid experienced actress over any unknown that has a lack of experience any day of the week. And also...the arguments that say a known actress such as Connelly... would detract or would add "baggage" to the production is an absolute insult to an actress' of Miss Connelly's caliber. Some of you are unbelievable.....

[Dark Knight]

Though the concept of the "unknown actor" has been a staple of comics, tv shows, and books turned film since the beginning of time, as many claim that it would make them see said actor, not the character they envision. It's not really all that valid, but that's how a lot of people think.


it's not valid at all....thats the whole point of my argument. it's a total fallacy....

[Dark Knight]

it's amazing how some have the mistaken mentality that the unknown actress wouldn't bring justice to the character -- AND let the WW character shine through without sharing the 'stage' as it were with a known actress. a production company is in to make the money. an unknown would be cheaper to pay and would not bring with them stipulations that have to be met that a known actress most likely would. Look at how long the project itself had been dragged on because Bullock wanted control over the script and to be pretty much the stamp of approval on the movie itself. Look at the payroll that would have to be spent if someone that calls for at least a million dollars per role or pretty much near it.

An unknown to mainstream hollywood does not mean a lack of talent. Far from it, otherwise none of us would visually see the following when talking about a role:

Christopher Reeve = Superman
Lynda Carter = Wonder Woman
Lucy Lawless = Xena
Kevin Sorbo = Hercules
Lindsey Wagner = Bionic Woman
Lou Ferregno (sp) = Incredible Hulk
SMG = Buffy
David Boreanez = Angel
Eliza Dushku = Faith

and the list goes on and on and on.

Comparing Sandra Bullock (who was never right for the role) to a true professional like Connelly for example is a mistake.

Not saying that an unknown means for a lack of talent.....it just means that i would feel WAY more comfortable with a solid experienced actress who will passion, experience and professionalism to the role.

Ron Pearlman- known actor and perfect choice for Hellboy

Keaton- known actor considered to be the best Batman (Bale will take that title over after BEGINS is released)

Bale- known actor with a cult following...the perfect choice as the younger version of the Dark Knight.

Garner- known actress and very good as Elecktra....too bad the script and director sucked...not her fault...

K. Reeves- known actor.....some felt he was mis-cast as Constantine (me included, i thought Tim Roth would have been ideal) however,, he did a VERY admirable job in the role....a far better acting job than he did with Neo in the Matrix.

Maguire- Tobey was a known actor before Spidey and had a good resume. He did an excellent job in both films.....he was my top choice, compared to the other MTV friendly wannabes, Prinze Jr etc....because he was the best actor out of them all.

Hugh Jackman- some say he was an unknown before he was cast as Logan.....i think not....he was a well trained stage actor and known actor in Australia...he had a solid resume.

more exampled to come....don't have time....

[SolidRoar]

For Superman and Wonder Woman in particular, an unknown is the best way to go, IMO. They are iconic characters that you want to convince the audience that they came from a different world. They don't even wear masks, so when people see their heroic figure, they shouldn't see a star they've seen in another movie. That's why unknowns are better.

[superheromovies]

sorry but hellboy did not meet the quota money wise and was a disappointment to what they wanted money wise

keaton, only good batman but no one thought he could do it, much like you believe an unknown wouldn't be able to do it ;)

bale... still don't know him and a lot of other people don't know him either, so he isn't a household name, which pretty much equates him to a relative unknown to mainstream hollywood

garner was an unknown before alias and elektra, those two roles are what people know her as for the most part.

toby was, again, someone people thought would not make the grade and had to go against the popular belief to prove himself, much like the unknown will have to do with folks that are determined to make WW the secondary focus of a movie by having a hollywood star main-naming the role.

hugh jackman - thanks, dude! another unknown to just about 98% of us, that did more than justice to another superhero role (wolverine)

Comparing Sandra Bullock (who was never right for the role) to a true professional like Connelly for example is a mistake.

Not saying that an unknown means for a lack of talent.....it just means that i would feel WAY more comfortable with a solid experienced actress who will passion, experience and professionalism to the role.

Ron Pearlman- known actor and perfect choice for Hellboy

Keaton- known actor considered to be the best Batman (Bale will take that title over after BEGINS is released)

Bale- known actor with a cult following...the perfect choice as the younger version of the Dark Knight.

Garner- known actress and very good as Elecktra....too bad the script and director sucked...not her fault...

K. Reeves- known actor.....some felt he was mis-cast as Constantine (me included, i thought Tim Roth would have been ideal) however,, he did a VERY admirable job in the role....a far better acting job than he did with Neo in the Matrix.

Maguire- Tobey was a known actor before Spidey and had a good resume. He did an excellent job in both films.....he was my top choice, compared to the other MTV friendly wannabes, Prinze Jr etc....because he was the best actor out of them all.

Hugh Jackman- some say he was an unknown before he was cast as Logan.....i think not....he was a well trained stage actor and known actor in Australia...he had a solid resume.

more exampled to come....don't have time....

[superheromovies]

Exactly! thanks ;)

For Superman and Wonder Woman in particular, an unknown is the best way to go, IMO. They are iconic characters that you want to convince the audience that they came from a different world. They don't even wear masks, so when people see their heroic figure, they shouldn't see a star they've seen in another movie. That's why unknowns are better.

[Dark Knight]

sorry but hellboy did not meet the quota money wise and was a disappointment to what they wanted money wise

keaton, only good batman but no one thought he could do it, much like you believe an unknown wouldn't be able to do it ;)

bale... still don't know him and a lot of other people don't know him either, so he isn't a household name, which pretty much equates him to a relative unknown to mainstream hollywood

garner was an unknown before alias and elektra, those two roles are what people know her as for the most part.

toby was, again, someone people thought would not make the grade and had to go against the popular belief to prove himself, much like the unknown will have to do with folks that are determined to make WW the secondary focus of a movie by having a hollywood star main-naming the role.

hugh jackman - thanks, dude! another unknown to just about 98% of us, that did more than justice to another superhero role (wolverine)


Jackman was not a complete unknown actor.....and neither was Tobey. Bale is considered a semi-unknown....to non hardcore movie buffs. Some folks still don;t know who the hell Connelly is....she won an Oscar.....but there alot of folks who still don;t know who she is....unless you are a hard core movie buff. Just depends if you are....or if your not.

Oh and Wonder Woman is not as iconic as Superman, Batman., Spider-Man are....she is definately a notch below. IMO....

[Dark Knight]

Exactly! thanks ;)


i guess you think that a complete unknown can guarantee that......i for one disagree big time.....a known actress will be able to do the same damn thing. Thats why they are called....ACTORS! And for one.....want a good, if not GREAT actress to be cast as WW. Just like i want the film to BE great!

[Speed_Freak]

Throwing in my two cents, years back a friend of mine and I cast a WW movie with Jennifer Connelly as WW (this was back around when Rocketeer came out); Rebecca DeMornay as Cheetah; and Mira Sorvino as Silver Swan.

Currently, ideally I'd like to see Monica Bellucci as WW, but after hearing that they may like to go the unknown/younger route, I'd like to suggest Rhona Mitra (from Hollow Man/Highwaymen/Boston Legal) or Cerina Vincent (Cabin Fever/Not Another Teen Movie) as WW. They both have the physical similarity/beauty and with a little toning could have the strength look. Still like DeMornay as Cheetah to give a little age difference in characters, as well as George Clooney as Trevor, kinda following Perez's re-boot w/Trevor as the mentor figure.

[Aethea]

Screw Cheeta! We need ARES! The god of WAR!

[pimpernel]

In regard to Mischa Barton, first of all, she's on a fox show. Second of all, even OC fans (those dumb, sheepish, tools) admit that she's the worst actor on the show. And that show isn't exactly the Sopranos.

And it's really great how seemingly, because you want-an-old-actress people say so, that every young actress you chose to deem a "teeny-bopper" is one. News flash, 95 percent of the roles available to teen and early 20's actors and actresses come from the WB/Fox/Network sitcom/Slasher movie/gross-out teen movie/ industrial comlplex. The middle aged and old people that run Hollywood pretty much reserve all the manufactured aclaim and respect for themselves. Christopher Reeve was a frigging soap operah actor before Superman. You don't get any more mindnumbingly worthless entertainment than that. So please, if you have an original argument make one, but stop pretending that Whedon hasn't stated that early 20's is what he's looking at for the role, and that if you whine about it, you might change that.

1) 34 isn't old. I could show you pics of Connelly taken this year where she doesn't look a day over 25... but evidently those would be wasted on you.

2) Every young actress is not a teeny-bopper... just the crap ones.

3) Barton is a crap one... and heres the confusing part... you even admit yourself she is a crap actress yet you say she is the perfect choice? :rolleyes:

4) Your point about the choice of roles open to younger actresses is crap. I think you will find the total reverse to be true. All the good roles these days are having their ages lowered (WW is a case in point) so that younger actresses can get them... if anything Hollywood is being totally ageist AGAINST actresses over thirty.

5) I'm not pretending anything. If you check back i have said several times now that all the casting suggestions made on this board so far need to be thrown out cos they are too old in light of Joss' recent statement. That does not mean i'm gonna settle for the first crap brunette that someone suggests. There are good young actresses out there and Barton is not one of them.

[Super_Ludacris]

2) Every young actress is not a teeny-bopper... just the crap ones.




This is Classic Signature Material :p

[Soap]

Anne Hathaway.

[Phantomex]

Not the worst suggestion I've heard here, 5'8" and in the age range they are supposed to be looking in. But has anyone seen her in anything serious?

[dnno1]

why would most people want an unknown??? and what poll are you talking about??

If you look at the top of the page when you select the Official Wonder Woman Casting Suggestions [merged-Too many to count] thread you will see the results of the poll that was taken. I am posting the results as of March 26, 2005 at 7:37AM PST:

View Poll Results: Your Pick For Wonder Woman

Actress______________Votes_____%

Monica Belluci____________ 24_____ 13.95%

Jennifer Connelly _________ 29_____ 16.86%

Carrie Anne Moss __________1______ 0.58%

Catherine Zeta Jones ______14______ 8.14%

Tsianina Joelson __________22______12.79%

Morena Baccarin___________ 9_______5.23%

Charisma Carpenter ________26_____15.12%

Sarah Michelle Gellar________2_______1.16%

Angelina Jolie______________7_______4.07%

Other____________________38______22.09%

Total number of Voters: 172



Out of nine women to sellect from, Jennifer Connelly was the most popular at 17%. Cathrine Zeta jones, who I think is a very beautiful woman and was (so to speak) hand picked by Lynda Carter, was only chosen by 8% of voters, and Angelina Jolie (FHM's sexiest woman) was a whoping 4%. 22% of the voters wanted someone other that those listed (which I am assuming to be an unknown actress since they are not in the list). Mabe it would be more appropriate for me to say that most of the voters (although very small at 22%) wanted someone else over those listed. On a poll taken at The Fan's Ultimate Wonder Woman Movie Site (http://www.ultimatewonder.com/survey_results.html), 48% of those surveyed wanted an unknown for the role of Wonder Woman over a known Hollywood actress (out of 132 polled and 19% were not sure) so I feel that the "Other" category in this thread's poll would be mostly unkowns.

I'll bet you most of the movie going public...would be more excited to see Connelly over any unknown out there...and especially any Biel, Lohan, Gellar, Hewitt type out there also.

Unfortunately the poll did not include Biel, Lohan, or Hewitt. They would most likely fall into the "Other" category. Another poll would need to be taken to see how they would fair against Connelly.

If you know plenty of chicks......you should do a little research study with them...about what they would want to see in a WW and ask them if it is better to see a matured woman in her 30's like Connelly, or some tenny bopper girl in her low to mid -20's.....i'll bet most of them would pick Connelly.....try it out.....i styarted my own research yesterday...and i will continue it today, with someother chicks i know....]

Althought they make up 51% of the movie going public, most Wonder Woman fans are male (I feel confident saying 61%). From a business stand point, you would want to make sure to keep the majority of your fan base interested. So the movie (including the cast) would primarily market to those fans. You can throw in a little romance and drama to keep the female population interested and capture that portion of the market. In any case I would encourage and welcome your own independant research just to see what you find.

Dno

[pimpernel]

Its gotta be said the choices on that Ultimate WW site are mostly bloody awful. Have you seen their pics for Steve Trevor or Paula Von Gunther? Just... bad.

[dnno1]

Its gotta be said the choices on that Ultimate WW site are mostly bloody awful. Have you seen their pics for Steve Trevor or Paula Von Gunther? Just... bad.

Look, everyone is intitled to an opinion and (at least three) wishes. Keep in mind that the majority of those choices are comming from men. I am sure they can pick some of the most beautiful women in the world, but can you expect men to be good judges of themselves?

Dno

[BT18]

Neglecting to get into your rediculous assertion that most people who voted for "other" would prefur in unknown, as apposed to say, an actress who simply ISN'T ON THE FRIGGING LIST...

When are you going to accept the fact that Jennifer Connelly isn't in her early 20's? Whedon stated that's how old the choice will be.

[Soap]

Not the worst suggestion I've heard here, 5'8" and in the age range they are supposed to be looking in. But has anyone seen her in anything serious?

Yeah, she was in Nicholas Nickleby, and I think shes appearing in Ang Lee's Brokeback Mountain.

[pimpernel]

Look, everyone is intitled to an opinion and (at least three) wishes. Keep in mind that the majority of those choices are comming from men. I am sure they can pick some of the most beautiful women in the world, but can you expect men to be good judges of themselves?

Dno

That makes it sound like the sole factor in voting for an actor is looks.

Dude i'm just saying they have some wacky choices in there same as there are some wacky choices here. And when it comes to talent then i would actually expect men to be better at picking guys cos they aren't blinkered by hormones in that case.

[pimpernel]

Neglecting to get into your rediculous assertion that most people who voted for "other" would prefur in unknown, as apposed to say, an actress who simply ISN'T ON THE FRIGGING LIST...

When are you going to accept the fact that Jennifer Connelly isn't in her early 20's? Whedon stated that's how old the choice will be.

Um... people have accepted that... we are still allowed to say its a dumb decision tho cos it is.

When are you going to accept that the actress you are pushing is crap? Simple as that. Show us another actress in their early twenties that can actually act and fits the character and maybe people will listen.

[The Sage]

What actress is he's pushing?

[pimpernel]

What actress is he's pushing?

You're not gonna believe this dude... wait for it... Misha Barton. I shiet you not.

[The Sage]

Stop playing Pimp. Tell the truth, who is he pushing for, and be honest.

[dnno1]

What actress is he's pushing?

I don't think that BT18 has ever pushed an atress at this thread. From what I have read of his posts, he does not seem to be a Wonder Woman let alone a DC Comics fan. But, like I said before, every one is entitled to an opinion and he is more than welcome to submit a candidate. He seems to like someone in their mid 20's (25'ish it think he said).

Dno

[BT18]

You're not gonna believe this dude... wait for it... Misha Barton. I shiet you not.

Ok, You're a FRIGGING LIAR, and there can be zero controversy about that, because it can be easily proven that the exact opposite of what you state is true, by simply reading back a couple of pages on this thread.

I won't edit any of my comment boxes as can be proven by the times on them, and you will be shown for the lying tool that you are.

I said that even stupid OC fans think that Mischa Barton is a bad actress. See for yourself schmuck.

[Dark Knight]

another good example in regards to using known actors ahead of unknowns....is Rodriguez/Millers Sin City of course......they wanted good, experienced actors for the roles in that film. I'm glad Rodriguez went that route instead of casting unknowns for Marv, Hartigan and Dwight....

[superheromovies]

Yes, I do think that an unknown to mainstream hollywood actress can guarantee that. And I have seen some bad films that known actresses have done.

Speed 2 anyone? dud.



i guess you think that a complete unknown can guarantee that......i for one disagree big time.....a known actress will be able to do the same damn thing. Thats why they are called....ACTORS! And for one.....want a good, if not GREAT actress to be cast as WW. Just like i want the film to BE great!

[superheromovies]

absolutely right!

1) 34 isn't old.

[pimpernel]

Ok, You're a FRIGGING LIAR, and there can be zero controversy about that, because it can be easily proven that the exact opposite of what you state is true, by simply reading back a couple of pages on this thread.

I won't edit any of my comment boxes as can be proven by the times on them, and you will be shown for the lying tool that you are.

I said that even stupid OC fans think that Mischa Barton is a bad actress. See for yourself schmuck.

Well lets put it this way. In response to me saying Barton is crap you posted this:

In regard to Mischa Barton, first of all, she's on a fox show. Second of all, even OC fans (those dumb, sheepish, tools) admit that she's the worst actor on the show. And that show isn't exactly the Sopranos.

And it's really great how seemingly, because you want-an-old-actress people say so, that every young actress you chose to deem a "teeny-bopper" is one. News flash, 95 percent of the roles available to teen and early 20's actors and actresses come from the WB/Fox/Network sitcom/Slasher movie/gross-out teen movie/ industrial comlplex. The middle aged and old people that run Hollywood pretty much reserve all the manufactured aclaim and respect for themselves. Christopher Reeve was a frigging soap operah actor before Superman. You don't get any more mindnumbingly worthless entertainment than that. So please, if you have an original argument make one, but stop pretending that Whedon hasn't stated that early 20's is what he's looking at for the role, and that if you whine about it, you might change that.

Now sure the first part of that says Barton is crap cos she is a soap/WB/Fox actress. But then you go on in the next half to rant on about how soap actresses/WB/Fox stars should be cast as Wonder Woman... is it any wonder that i got confused about where you stand on Barton when you can't seem to keep it straight in your own head?

[Winter Spleen]

Oh no. Mischa is terrible! She's anorexically skinny... and is the one of the worst actresses working today.

[The Sage]

BT18, you admit Barton's a crappy actress, yet you want her for Wonder Woman? Am I missing something?

[dnno1]

another good example in regards to using known actors ahead of unknowns....is Rodriguez/Millers Sin City of course......they wanted good, experienced actors for the roles in that film. I'm glad Rodriguez went that route instead of casting unknowns for Marv, Hartigan and Dwight....

You don't think that they did that because the story is unfamiliar to most viewers? I will admit I am not a fan of the Sin City series and I am pretty shure that there are a lot of others who would overlook the opening of this film for the same reason. But when you mention names like Josh Hartnett, Bruce Willis, Mickey Rourke, Elija Wood, Jessica Alba, Brittanny Murphy, Rosario Dawson et. al. then you turn heads and fill up a few extra seats.

I think it is different with Wonder Woman. First of all just the name it self sells (or it should). It does not matter who is in the costume as long as it is someone who closely fits the caracter's height, weight, and looks. Secondly I don't think that you want the aura of the actress overpower the aura of the character. I am sure you don't want to see the movie introduced as "Jennifer Connelly in wonder woman" but rather "Wonder Woman the Movie" and then the actress' name in the credits. I think this could also hurt the movie if the (famous) actress decides not to do a sequel.

The same thing goes for the marketing of products and paraphernalia. I am sure that WB would rather sell Wonder Woman dolls and not Catherine Zeta Jones dolls dressed to look like Wonder Woman. People would only be buying it for the actress and not the character. These are factors that a movie house has to consider when making the film.

Dno

[batdude]

I'm sure that the fact that Joss and the studio want a sequel plays into this, as well as toy sales. I doubt the studio would to sell "Catherine Zeta Jones as Wonder Woman" toys and then have to sell regular comic based ones at the same time. as happened with John Goodman as Fred Flintstone.

[CConn]

You don't think that they did that because the story is unfamiliar to most viewers? I will admit I am not a fan of the Sin City series and I am pretty shure that there are a lot of others who would overlook the opening of this film for the same reason. But when you mention names like Josh Hartnett, Bruce Willis, Mickey Rourke, Elija Wood, Jessica Alba, Brittanny Murphy, Rosario Dawson et. al. then you turn heads and fill up a few extra seats.

I think it is different with Wonder Woman. First of all just the name it self sells (or it should). It does not matter who is in the costume as long as it is someone who closely fits the caracter's height, weight, and looks. Secondly I don't think that you want the aura of the actress overpower the aura of the character. I am sure you don't want to see the movie introduced as "Jennifer Connelly in wonder woman" but rather "Wonder Woman the Movie" and then the actress' name in the credits. I think this could also hurt the movie if the (famous) actress decides not to do a sequel.

The same thing goes for the marketing of products and paraphernalia. I am sure that WB would rather sell Wonder Woman dolls and not Catherine Zeta Jones dolls dressed to look like Wonder Woman. People would only be buying it for the actress and not the character. These are factors that a movie house has to consider when making the film.

DnoBut how is WW any different than Superman or Batman? :confused:

I mean, it's always been MICHAEL KEATON as Batman or CHRISTOPHER REEVE as Superman. How is it WW is different from the other DC Superheroes?

[BT18]

BT18, you admit Barton's a crappy actress, yet you want her for Wonder Woman? Am I missing something?

I don't want her for Wonder Woman. Are you going to jump on the lying bandwagon as well?

I corrected someone who said she was on the WB.

And I in addition to that made a seperate point about the people who want old actresses for the part using the "teeny-bopper" attack against actresses of the age that Whedon has stated his looking at (early 20's) simply because they've been in the realm of light entertainment that is available to them.

[Diamondhead]

You Curs forgotten to put Jessica Simpson’s name on this pole
Now, if only Beyonce Knowles was Caucasian she'd be ok too

Forget about former WWF wrestler “china”, I always thought she was born to play the she hulk or Thundra, instead, especially with that new Fantastic four movies coming out, but Nooooo !
She had to go and degrade herself by doing and XXX rated film,
I don’t know who’d talked her into doing this or was she so depress over losing her boxing match against that “Jerry Buttafuco” guy, that she had to go and degrade herself like that

Anyway she didn’t have to feel so degraded because I don’t think that even a WWE male wrestler could have easily won against that “Buttafuco” guy
Because he seems the kind of guy that used to played with a 500 hundreds pound bench press at his prime
Anyway it’s too late now for her
Beside, no over 25 years old should be allowed to play wonder woman

And Oh! I almost forgot about Kristin kreuk
She would be kind of nice to consider too, but she'd better start training and put on a little bit of weight on her bones, LOL...

[pimpernel]

I don't want her for Wonder Woman. Are you going to jump on the lying bandwagon as well?

I corrected someone who said she was on the WB.

And I in addition to that made a seperate point about the people who want old actresses for the part using the "teeny-bopper" attack against actresses of the age that Whedon has stated his looking at (early 20's) simply because they've been in the realm of light entertainment that is available to them.

Is this like the time you said you were setting up a poll then later went back and said thats not what you were doing? Dude you need to either write clearer posts or make up your mind what it is you are trying to say cos either way you are contradicting yourself a lot.

[pimpernel]

You Curs forgotten to put Jessica Simpson’s name on this pole
Now, if only Beyonce Knowles was Caucasian she'd be ok too

Forget about former WWF wrestler “china”, I always thought she was born to play the she hulk or Thundra, instead, especially with that new Fantastic four movies coming out, but Nooooo !
She had to go and degrade herself by doing and XXX rated film,
I don’t know who’d talked her into doing this or was she so depress over losing her boxing match against that “Jerry Buttafuco” guy, that she had to go and degrade herself like that

Anyway she didn’t have to feel so degraded because I don’t think that even a WWE male wrestler could have easily won against that “Buttafuco” guy
Because he seems the kind of guy that used to played with a 500 hundreds pound bench press at his prime
Anyway it’s too late now for her
Beside, no over 25 years old should be allowed to play wonder woman

And Oh! I almost forgot about Kristin kreuk
She would be kind of nice to consider too, but she'd better start training and put on a little bit of weight on her bones, LOL...

Seriously?

[Diamondhead]

Seriously?
C'mon
That’s too short ... Speak your mind.

[dnno1]

But how is WW any different than Superman or Batman? :confused:

I mean, it's always been MICHAEL KEATON as Batman or CHRISTOPHER REEVE as Superman. How is it WW is different from the other DC Superheroes?

There is no difference. It's about the character to the WB and not who plays the caracter. That is why when Keaton decided not to do any more Batman films he was easily replaced by Val Kilmer and then George Clooney and now Christian Bale. The franchise didn't come to a halt.

Christopher Reeve was a virtual unknown when he played Superman (although he had a bit part in "Gray Lady Down" with Charlton Heston). I thought he was too scrawny for the part then, but after the success of the first film, people started associating him with being Superman and not George Reeves (take note that Marlon Brando took top billing and $2M for a 2 minute stint in this film). I am sure the there are thousands of fans who belived that no one could ever replace him as Superman but, once again, it doesn't matter because the movie is about Supes and not the actor who is playing him.

The same goes for Wonder Woman. Everybody remembers Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman and it's been so many years (about 26 years) since there has been another actress to play her (never in a major motion picture). We all feel like there could never be anyone who could measure up to her (Lynda Carter) now, but once again it doesn't matter whether she is Wonder Woman or not because the movie will be about Wonder Woman and not the actress who plays the character.

So if this is the case, why do you want to spend over $20M for an academy award winning actress who is most likely going to dictate what should and should not be in the movie when you can pay a lot less for an unknown and do the movie the way the director wants it done? Why not go with an unknown actress (so long as she fits the mold), pay her less money and focus your budget on special effects, on location filming or advertising? I would go the cheaper route unless I was not sure that I could capture a large enough market with the character.

Dno

[pimpernel]

C'mon
That’s too short ... Speak your mind.

LOL... if i thought you were serious then i'd say they were crap choices... if i thought you were serious. ;)

[The Sage]

Interesting...

Whedon should change his preference from early 20s to late 20s. I'd only go for early 20s if there's an actress who can look the part and act of that age.

[Super_Ludacris]

If they go for an Unknown...Summer Altice.....okay that's just my eye candy wish :)

[BT18]

Is this like the time you said you were setting up a poll then later went back and said thats not what you were doing? Dude you need to either write clearer posts or make up your mind what it is you are trying to say cos either way you are contradicting yourself a lot.

Well I guess you are going to start lying. I never said that I was "setting up a poll". Saying someone SHOULD set up a poll and then getting a list started and asking for more suggestions for people who meet those qualifications is not "setting up a poll" or "making a poll". The notion of taking a poll was the reason for the suggestions, but the additional suggestions I asked for and never got, because people like you started lying about me and what I had said, was the prerequisite for any poll being made by me or anyone for actresses of the age that the filmmakers have FRIGGING STATED will be that of the actress chosen.

I don't need to be any clearer. You need to read something with your brain working if that's possible.

[BT18]

Interesting...

Whedon should change his preference from early 20s to late 20s. I'd only go for early 20s if there's an actress who can look the part and act of that age.

Whedon's best work has come from working with actors and actresses in their early 20's. His shows only started to go down hill when they got into their late 20's. Acting isn't like baseball. Everyone isn't at their best when they reach 27 and 28.

BTW people seem to have the notion that Wonder Woman has a precedent of being played by "mature", mid-30's-ish women.

Lynda Carter shot her 3 seasons from the ages of 24-27. Not exactly her golden years.

[The Sage]

Whedon's best work has come from working with actors and actresses in their early 20's. His shows only started to go down hill when they got into their late 20's. Acting isn't like baseball. Everyone isn't at their best when they reach 27 and 28.

BTW people seem to have the notion that Wonder Woman has a precedent of being played by "mature", mid-30's-ish women.

Lynda Carter shot her 3 seasons from the ages of 24-27. Not exactly her golden years.

She looked the part and looked mature at that age range. Same thing with Christopher Reeve as Superman. To me, it's a rarity to find such a quality in actors & actresses nowadays. That's why I think late 20s is safer. But if an early 20s mature looking actress can be found, then great.

On a sidenote, most of Whedon's shows featured the actors playing teenagers. Perhaps once they reached 27 and 28, the whole teenage look wore off.

[pimpernel]

Well I guess you are going to start lying. I never said that I was "setting up a poll". Saying someone SHOULD set up a poll and then getting a list started and asking for more suggestions for people who meet those qualifications is not "setting up a poll" or "making a poll". The notion of taking a poll was the reason for the suggestions, but the additional suggestions I asked for and never got, because people like you started lying about me and what I had said, was the prerequisite for any poll being made by me or anyone for actresses of the age that the filmmakers have FRIGGING STATED will be that of the actress chosen.

I don't need to be any clearer. You need to read something with your brain working if that's possible.

Jesus dude i qouted you in black and white... you are just plain wrong... get over it. :rolleyes:

[pimpernel]

Whedon's best work has come from working with actors and actresses in their early 20's. His shows only started to go down hill when they got into their late 20's. Acting isn't like baseball. Everyone isn't at their best when they reach 27 and 28.

BTW people seem to have the notion that Wonder Woman has a precedent of being played by "mature", mid-30's-ish women.

Lynda Carter shot her 3 seasons from the ages of 24-27. Not exactly her golden years.

This is a moronic statement. The shows didn't go downhill cos the actors got older... they went downhill cos they had been running for seven years and the writers were running out of fresh ideas. :rolleyes:

And i'm sorry but acting really IS like Baseball in some respects... actors DO get better with age.

Also nobody stated Wonder Woman has a precedent for being played by anything. What they said is that she has always been portayed as mature. in the comics she is always portrayed as around thirty to thirty-five. Lynda Carter was mature beyond her years and that came through in her performance. If they can find an actress in her early twenties with the same kind of maturity and presence that Carter had then by all means give her a try.

Maybe instead of *****ing all the time you should be looking for examples to prove us wrong?

[Darko]

Tsianina Joelson looks beautiful and mature.:):up:

[pimpernel]

Tsianina Joelson looks beautiful and mature.:):up:

Nice try. ;) :p

[SolidRoar]

Yeah, let him try as much as he wants. And you keep trying to get Connelly. :p;)

:D

[pimpernel]

Yeah, let him try as much as he wants. And you keep trying to get Connelly. :p;)

:D

I know Connelly isn't gonna happen tho... i've never been pushing for just her... i'm pretty open to good suggestions. :p

[Antonello Blueberry]

In the comics she is always portrayed as around thirty to thirty-five.
I don't think so. After Crisis, she came in the world of the men when her age was arount twenty, and in DC Universe time, she's been here for maybe five years now.

[pimpernel]

Dude if she looks around twenty then i look like Brad Pitt.

[superheromovies]

No it hasn't. When Superman came out, it was Superman the movie and THEN, after time, Christopher Reeve was joined to the hip with the character. That's my point. We need the character first, not the actor's name as character lineup.

As for batman.. all I remember thinking was coool, Jack as the Joker. It's what I think WW should do too, have known names as villans ;)


I mean, it's always been MICHAEL KEATON as Batman or CHRISTOPHER REEVE as Superman. How is it WW is different from the other DC Superheroes?

[superheromovies]

she didn't look 20 to me.

I don't think so. After Crisis, she came in the world of the men when her age was arount twenty, and in DC Universe time, she's been here for maybe five years now.

[pimpernel]

No it hasn't. When Superman came out, it was Superman the movie and THEN, after time, Christopher Reeve was joined to the hip with the character. That's my point. We need the character first, not the actor's name as character lineup.

As for batman.. all I remember thinking was coool, Jack as the Joker. It's what I think WW should do too, have known names as villans ;)

*cough*Ray Liotta as Ares*cough*

[The Sage]

Dude if she looks around twenty then i look like Brad Pitt.

Let's see some pics. :p

[Antonello Blueberry]

Dude if she looks around twenty then i look like Brad Pitt.
When Perez was drawing her at the beginning of the new series, she looked like a 20-years old girl.
http://www.hockeyautographexchange.com/comics/wwgallery1.jpg

[dnno1]

This is a moronic statement. The shows didn't go downhill cos the actors got older... they went downhill cos they had been running for seven years and the writers were running out of fresh ideas. :rolleyes:

And i'm sorry but acting really IS like Baseball in some respects... actors DO get better with age.

Also nobody stated Wonder Woman has a precedent for being played by anything. What they said is that she has always been portayed as mature. in the comics she is always portrayed as around thirty to thirty-five. Lynda Carter was mature beyond her years and that came through in her performance. If they can find an actress in her early twenties with the same kind of maturity and presence that Carter had then by all means give her a try.

Maybe instead of *****ing all the time you should be looking for examples to prove us wrong?

I agree with Pimpernel. You don't see too may actresses winning academy awards in their early 20's. It is usually after they have established themselves in the industry. One actress comes to mind is Meryl Streep. She Won her first academy award when she was 31 in "Kramer vs. Kramer" (I think).

Dno

[pimpernel]

When Perez was drawing her at the beginning of the new series, she looked like a 20-years old girl.
http://www.hockeyautographexchange.com/comics/wwgallery1.jpg

Um... no he didn't. And i've googled and the only reference i can find to her age puts her as at least 25.

[pimpernel]

From John Byrne (http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4763&PN=1&totPosts=7) himself...

If I remember correctly, George established Diana as being 24 or 25 when she left Themyscira.

[The Sage]

From John Byrne (http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4763&PN=1&totPosts=7) himself...

That may explain why Whedon's going after an early 20s actress. Here's hoping for success.

[pimpernel]

That may explain why Whedon's going after an early 20s actress. Here's hoping for success.

I don't think Joss even knows that. I mean i had to do some serious digging to even find that so i doubt Joss would know it if he isn't even a fan. Like i said to most people she seems around thirty so i'm sure his comment was just a coincidence... but ironically one that coincides with current continuity.

Its not really about actual age tho. Its about maturity and the kind of vibe they give off... some folks have that at 25 but most don't get it til they are older. If they can find a Lynda Carter that got it early then all is good... but if not then we could be stuff with a girly wonder woman wannabe.

[The Sage]

I don't think Joss even knows that. I mean i had to do some serious digging to even find that so i doubt Joss would know it if he isn't even a fan. Like i said to most people she seems around thirty so i'm sure his comment was just a coincidence... but ironically one that coincides with current continuity.

Its not really about actual age tho. Its about maturity and the kind of vibe they give off... some folks have that at 25 but most don't get it til they are older. If they can find a Lynda Carter that got it early then all is good... but if not then we could be stuff with a girly wonder woman wannabe.

And that's my fear with this early 20s stuff.

[Slipping_Halo]

You could always start a website... or visit some of her fansites and persuade them to start up petitions or something? Just an idea but you have a few months to drum up some interest before Joss casts this so you could get a lot done. I'd sign up for sure. :p


i'm schizo, so with me signing up, you've got about 30 people already

[Soap]

Just for the record, who is everyone one pushing for, and or who is currently being discussed now at this point in the thread???...

[pimpernel]

Just for the record, who is everyone one pushing for, and or who is currently being discussed now at this point in the thread???...

Um... well for the record me dream casting would be Jennifer Connelly... but my realistic casting would be either Jordan Bayne or a good talented unknown that fits the role.

[terry78]

http://www.amazing-amazon.com/comipics/wwcvr8.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0311/18/wonderwomana.jpg
http://www.mechanicalpencil1138.com/Images/jks-WonderWomanMad.jpg
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/2249_5905_1.jpg
http://frogkid.free.fr/pics/WW/ww1.jpg
http://www.amazon-archives.com/Images/al9.jpg
http://www.spidermedia.ru/gallery/ultimate_dc/ultimate_dc_08.jpg

This being probably the most engaging conversation on the boards right now, I can't help but constantly keep getting pulled back into it. I just can not make up mind as to who I would like or think is a good candidate, nor what the costume should entail...damn those writers and artists and their personal visions.

[Kmack]

http://www.spidermedia.ru/gallery/ultimate_dc/ultimate_dc_08.jpg
I love this version of Wonder Woman, I always have.

[superheromovies]

sorry, not me. It looks like someone drew that pic to try and change WW into something different

[pimpernel]

I know. Its one thing to think a heroine in gladiator gear with a big axe and some superpowers is cool... maybe it is cool... but its sure as hell not Wonder Woman.

[portland2002]

http://www.spidermedia.ru/gallery/ultimate_dc/ultimate_dc_08.jpg
I love this version of Wonder Woman, I always have.

I agree, Kmack. It's very cool.

[X-Maniac]

I am not sure whether to laugh or cry at some of the suggestions on here. They are sooooo obvious, like some teenage kid thinking of the first bimbo he jerks off about.

I mean, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Demi Moore, Angelina Jolie! For God's sake people! Next thing it will be Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson being mentioned. And Kristianna Loken gets mentioned for every role going in every superhero movie ever mentioned on here. Jeez.

Angelina Jolie is good at what she does - escapist entertainment that is not meant to be taken too seriously. Very annoying lips though. Jennifer Garner also has irritatingly inflated lips. They just make these woman look like expert kocksuckers, they give them no feminine empowerment, they just look like they'd be good on their knees giving good head.

Demi Moore is now past her shelf life to ever, ever, ever, ever be considered for the role of an Amazonian princess. And so is Zeta-Jones - she is also crap on screen, have you never seen the hell that was the Mask of Zorro? (usually known as the Mask of Zero). And Lucy Lawless is also far too obvious a choice. Show some originality people! Stop picking people who have already been warriors or women who have dark hair and big boobs!

I'm not sure who I'd recommend, but someone really unknown who has statuesque classical beauty would be good. Forget big names who command big bucks, get someone in who can really do the job.

By the way, all this talk of picking some 'hot chick' with a 'nice rack' leads me to refer to the word Amazon. It's Greek. It derives from 'a' meaning without and 'mazos' meaning breast, therefore meaning 'without breast', with the explanation in mythology that the Amazon women cut off their right breast so it would not get in the way of their bowstring when using the bow and arrow. Personally, I believe they are more likely to have flattened their breasts to allow easier use of the bow and arrow, not chopped one of their tits off; or that the 'without breast' could refer to the Amazons appearing very unfeminine (very butch, very male) in their warrior lifestyle and aggressive battle technique. But it's always been said that they actually did cut off a breast. My other explanations have never been documented or discussed elsewhere.

Whatever, we are unlikely to see a Wonder Woman with only one tit! But bear in mind that big tits do not make a good warrior. It seems they get in the way of the bow and arrow - and this therefore implies that the bow and arrow should be part of the Wonder Woman mythology.

I am hoping this new movie will focus heavily on the historical/mythological culture of the Amazons, and maybe Wonder Woman's journey into the modern world will be th very end of the first movie, leaving room for a sequel.

[BT18]

X-Maniac - There's alot of bizarreness in that post, starting with your proclamation that Angelina and Jennifer Garner's lips are "annoying". You have to be pretty far removed from the normal presets of physical taste to see their lips anywhere in the negative realm. They go along with their respective faces aesthetic perfectly. Not only would you have a damn good chance of having Angelina be the number 1 dream famous girl if you polled men, you would DEFINETLY have her as the number 1 either dream or (if you had to go to the other side scenario) among women as it relates to celebrities. I have no doubt in my mind about this as these things are discussed in the company of non-uptight chicks in addition to observances of this desire in the media.

Anyway, off the topic of Angelina, your "theory" about Amazons actually being flat-chested not half-chested and so on is a little bit unnecessary of a speculation considerin the Amazons are freaking MYTHICAL.

[dnno1]

I don't know how many times I am going to say that everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you (X-Maniac) come off like a bitter woman. You may not like Angelina Jolie and her (I will not use the word annoying or big, but) sensuous lips, but according to FHM (For Him Magazine) she is considered the sexiest woman in the world (http://www.wacotrib.com/hp/content/shared-gen/ap/Movies/Angelina_Jolie.html;COXnetJSessionIDbuild68=CHNc8w wMz1T7naktFy2rtsY8JLfPLP4WFmuyzPPh6G1p2hsr8moF%21-1627281187?urac=n&urvf=11119854366460.6813426374346654). This is over women like Jennifer Garner, Paris Hilton, Charlize Theron, Halle Berry, Alyssa Milano, Teri Hatcher, Pamela Anderson, Scarlett Johansson, and Lindsay Lohan who followed her in that order (this is out of 15 million votes casted around the world). Obviously, these women have somthing that makes them popular and in spite of what you might say they are making films and making the big $$$.

As for single breasted Amazons, the fact that they had single breasts is only ledgend. Some sources say that the Amazons were actually Persian men dressed up as women -- if you want to believe that. In an article from allaboutturkey.com (http://www.allaboutturkey.com/amazon.htm), the Amazons were a favorite subject of painters and sculptors. They are depicted in the art of the earliest periods dressed as warriors but having one breast bare (meaning uncovered). They were never depicted as having lost one breast, in spite of the Greek belief their name meant 'breastless'.

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Relief Sculpture of an
Amazon Woman: Note
that there is no breast
missing here.

I will not comment on the other women, which X-Maniac slighted in his (or her) post. The track records of their careers speak for themselves. Jessica Simpson and Britanny Spears have not been suggested as serious candidates on this thread (and I hope they do not).

As for the "hot chick" with the "nice rack" comment, all that I can say is "get with reality". First of all in the motion picture business, sex sells. Just take a look at my first paragraph and check out the measurments of the women in the top 10. The all have "nice racks" that you deem to be so scornful. Secondly, for at least the last 40 (and arguably 60) years, Wonder Woman has be drawn as a tall atheletic woman with a nice chest size. If you want to be consistant with what Wonder Woman fans are familiar with of her, you've got to go with an actress that fits the mold.

http://www.guiadelcomic.com/autores/pix/bolland/wonder-woman-poster-portada.jpg
Wonder Woman: "I'm not
Bad I'm just drawn that way"

My final comment is on a quote that you made in the middle of your discourse:
...I'm not sure who I'd recommend, but someone really unknown who has statuesque classical beauty would be good. Forget big names who command big bucks, get someone in who can really do the job...


I think that this is your real point and that is all you had to say. What do you call classical beauty anyway? In my book if she doesn't look like the picture above (or at least as beautiful as Lynda Carter) I'm throwing it back.

Dno

[X-Maniac]

Well, for the record, I love Angelina Jolie and the Tomb Raider movies. I don't buy into this 'sexiest woman in the world' crap - it's always the most obvious choices, it's a rather broad title given to a rather narrow range of contenders (the hottest movie chicks of the moment, usually). There are many very beautiful women out there who never get to be in the poll for the sexiest in the world, just because they are not in some TV show or movie at the right moment. Bitter? No. Honest? Yes.

I find enhanced lips silly, or annoying. So do many people. Women don't need to do this to themselves. It looks obviously artificial, it distracts from their real natural beauty. Angelina looks fine without the inflated lips. So would Jennifer Garner.

For the role of Wonder Woman, wouldn't it be so much better to have some amazing unknown actress who really fitted the part, rather than someone we all already know bringing the memories and baggage of previous roles and using up a great whack of the film budget for their mega-fee? I think so. I just can't see most of the choices in the role anyway - certainly not Angelina Jolie, Demi Moore (worst choice I've ever heard), Catherine Zeta-Jones or Lucy Lawless.

I'm saying to look beyond the obvious, to see the character first and find the part to fit; not to cast based on the first hot chick you can think of and then push them into the role. Whedon himself is doing it like this, and it's the right thing to do: work out the storyline, the character, then find someone right for it. No harm in people playing guessing games, or throwing in suggestions, but I think they need to dig a little deeper.

My point about the 'breastless' Amazons was to show you that the Amazons legend far went beyond the size of their tits. And, thus, to try to show you that bra size is not really a main factor here. We need someone with good height and stature first of all, a youthful person (no older than early 30s), a slightly muscular, athletic frame (they could work out I guess, to get that). I do not know who I'd suggest - that's not a cop-out, i just can't think of anyone immediately.

[Gratticus]

yeah, it's like what's happening with Superman Returns. They're casting with Reeves in mind, instead of getting a guy who looks like the Superman from the comics.

Carter was hot, and played the role well, but she doesn't look like an Amazon to me. Maybe someone a little more toned. Jessica Biel has the build, IMO, but not the face. All the actress mentioned above have some of the qualities, but not all. I agree with X-maniac that they should go with someone who encapsulates everything, instead of just going with a name who bases a little resemblance.

[pimpernel]

Cool we can say tits in here.

[Gratticus]

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[Fused]

meh.

[pimpernel]

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Dude Jordana Brewster is a pretty good choice for a younger WW but you gotta sell her more... those pics don't do her justice. :p

[SolidRoar]

WOW, Pimp is finally agreeing with someone else's choice - a young actress, too! LOL.

:p;)

[The Sage]

yeah, it's like what's happening with Superman Returns. They're casting with Reeves in mind, instead of getting a guy who looks like the Superman from the comics.


Only problem is, most of the Supermen drawn in comics today...look like Reeve. LOL

[The Sage]

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Obviously she'll need to do some body training, but she's okay.

[pimpernel]

WOW, Pimp is finally agreeing with someone else's choice - a young actress, too! LOL.

:p;)

Said all along i'd agree if someone made a decent suggestion. :p

[SolidRoar]

Only problem is, most of the Supermen drawn in comics today...look like Reeve. LOL
Yes, but when you compare Routh with the comics Superman, he looks NOTHING like him. Singer knows (or knew) nothing about Superman except from the Donner films. That's what worries me. I just hope Lex's character in the movie is more like the comics than Gene Hackman.

[SolidRoar]

Said all along i'd agree if someone made a decent suggestion. :pJust googled for some pics and she looks better than what's posted here. Never saw her act, though. I wish they go with someone who looks like Wonder Woman and not Linda Carter like they did with Superman.

[pimpernel]

Lemme see what i can do...

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[pimpernel]

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I changed the eye colour on some of them to help folks visualise. In some pics i think she kinda looks a wee bit like a younger Jennifer Connelly (which is no bad thing) plus she has that exotic look for all the folks that moan about Wonder Woman looking Greek. I've seen her act in a bunch of things and she is pretty good. Height-wise she is about four inches shorter than WW but thats nothing with heels and camera angles. All in all she would be pretty damn good IMO. :p

[ducepoppyhott]

Jennifer would be the best choice for the movie and the sequels (the script is alreadybeing written so this is real!), she would be awesome as the lead. Would be great to show off her achting chops in the action/adventure/thriller/comic type movie.....Joss Whedon is excellent with female heroines a.k.a buffy the vampire slayer, he would do great directing Jennifer, if marketed correctly, done perfectly like Buffy than Jennifer is the best honestly think about the possibilities as Jennifer dressed as wonder woman (with her great fassion sense and her looks and her persona and her cool spirit) She would do great...Yo J-lo I met you once in Miami, hopefully you read this, get in touch with the big movie execs do your thing, work your star power and get this role...Trust you'll do great ma ..Mrs Jennifer Lopez

[pimpernel]

Jennifer would be the best choice for the movie and the sequels (the script is alreadybeing written so this is real!), she would be awesome as the lead. Would be great to show off her achting chops in the action/adventure/thriller/comic type movie.....Joss Whedon is excellent with female heroines a.k.a buffy the vampire slayer, he would do great directing Jennifer, if marketed correctly, done perfectly like Buffy than Jennifer is the best honestly think about the possibilities as Jennifer dressed as wonder woman (with her great fassion sense and her looks and her persona and her cool spirit) She would do great...Yo J-lo I met you once in Miami, hopefully you read this, get in touch with the big movie execs do your thing, work your star power and get this role...Trust you'll do great ma ..Mrs Jennifer Lopez

Um... why are you talking about J-Lo when everyone else is talking about Jennifer CONNELLY? :confused:

[vibeke_T]

lucy

http://www.bestphotos.narod.ru/img/big/lucy_lawless/lucy_lawless21.jpg

she has such a porn name

[Steelsheen]

on Jordana Brewster:

for some reason she still looks too girlish, and she's not that tall. i remember seeing her in The Faculty and she's not much taller than Elijah Wood. we know how short that gimp is, and he certainly acted rings around her.

[pimpernel]

Jordana is 5'7" and WW is 5'11"... not too much of a difference with heels and camera angles and whatever.

[batdude]

O.K I like the idea of Jordana Brewster. I'm also kind of shocked that nobody's brought up Shannon Elizabeth or Liz Vassey from the Tick tv show now that I think about it.

[dnno1]

Just googled for some pics and she looks better than what's posted here. Never saw her act, though. I wish they go with someone who looks like Wonder Woman and not Linda Carter like they did with Superman.

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Lynda Carter

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Jordana Brewster

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Cast of "The Fast
and the Furious"
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Image)

Just for the record, Jordana Brewster is best known for playing with Paul Walker, Vin Diesel and Michelle Rodriguez in "The Fast and the Furious". Her role was Mia Torreto, the sister of Vin Diesel's character Dominic Torreto, the leader of a hot rod street gang that is under suspicion of stealing expensive electronic equipment. I like the fact that she was born in Panama (my parents are from there) and that she has spent some time in the UK and Brazil. I also admire the fact that she is a graduate of Yale University and is the daughter of a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model (Maria Joao). Unfortunately at 5'7", that is geting very close to the lower limit of height that is tolerable for the Wonder Woman character (IMHO).

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Maria Joaoa:
Mother of Jordana
Brewster
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Larger Image)

[Steelsheen]

Jordana is 5'7" and WW is 5'11"... not too much of a difference with heels and camera angles and whatever.
Pimp, are you serious? she wont cut it. 5'8 is bare minimum, and if you get a lady of that height to stand next to Bale or Routh the difference is so obvious-- unless you get her on 3 in pumps.

i know, the JL movie is a long way off-- if ever that would happen. but it never hurts to think ahead.

[Dark Knight]

You don't think that they did that because the story is unfamiliar to most viewers? I will admit I am not a fan of the Sin City series and I am pretty shure that there are a lot of others who would overlook the opening of this film for the same reason. But when you mention names like Josh Hartnett, Bruce Willis, Mickey Rourke, Elija Wood, Jessica Alba, Brittanny Murphy, Rosario Dawson et. al. then you turn heads and fill up a few extra seats.

I think it is different with Wonder Woman. First of all just the name it self sells (or it should). It does not matter who is in the costume as long as it is someone who closely fits the caracter's height, weight, and looks. Secondly I don't think that you want the aura of the actress overpower the aura of the character. I am sure you don't want to see the movie introduced as "Jennifer Connelly in wonder woman" but rather "Wonder Woman the Movie" and then the actress' name in the credits. I think this could also hurt the movie if the (famous) actress decides not to do a sequel.

The same thing goes for the marketing of products and paraphernalia. I am sure that WB would rather sell Wonder Woman dolls and not Catherine Zeta Jones dolls dressed to look like Wonder Woman. People would only be buying it for the actress and not the character. These are factors that a movie house has to consider when making the film.

Dno


well that is your flawed way of thinking......your saying that the name WW alone, will sell this film in itself.....and i disagree big time! As i have stated before...1..among the general movie going audience.....she is NOT as iconic as Batman, Superman, Spiderman. 2. this is a female heroine.....it's going to be hard enough to show to the movie going audience, that this film will be any different then Elecktra, Catwoman, etc. IMO....this WW story that Joss comes up with...must have the female lead be like Kill Bills Bride....and Million Dollar Babies Maggie. Strong female leads that have faults...but make you want to care for and root for their characters no matter what! To execute that....a solid actress is needed, but first a solid script is needed of course...to entice the good actress. 3. When promoting the film........WB's does not have to say Jennifer Connelly as Wonder Woman.....or start showing Academy Award Winner Jennifer Connelly.......they can always market the film....just like how they are doing for BEGINS......without showing the actors names in teasers and trailers. All people would need to see...is a toned up and in shape Connelly in intense scenes of drama, mystery and of course wonder.....and then the movie audience interest will be there for sure. I just want a good if not great actress for this role....is what it comes down to.

[Steelsheen]

As i have stated before...1..among the general movie going audience.....she is NOT as iconic as Batman, Superman, Spiderman.
dude you willing to bet you reputation on that on that? there is so many flaws in your argument, but no matter what we tell you you'll never understand simply because of age difference.

[pimpernel]

Pimp, are you serious? she wont cut it. 5'8 is bare minimum, and if you get a lady of that height to stand next to Bale or Routh the difference is so obvious-- unless you get her on 3 in pumps.

i know, the JL movie is a long way off-- if ever that would happen. but it never hurts to think ahead.

Shhh... i'm lowering my standards in preparation. ;)

[pimpernel]

Among the general movie going audience.....she is NOT as iconic as Batman, Superman, Spiderman.

Dude you know i'm with you on the Connelly loving front... but i gotta stop you right there cos this is so wrong its not even funny. Go ask your mom or your neighbour or the guy at the local seven-eleven to name a female superhero... or actually just show them a picture and ask them who it is... then report back to me with you head hung in shame.

[The Techno Bat]

Hey Pimpernel!

It's been awhile since I have been in this thread, just wanted to know what you thought of Joss Whedon saying he wants to go with an unknown and will not use Jennifer Connelly?

[pimpernel]

Hey Pimpernel!

It's been awhile since I have been in this thread, just wanted to know what you thought of Joss Whedon saying he wants to go with an unknown and will not use Jennifer Connelly?

LOL... i already said a few times i'm totally cool with it so long as he gets someone good that fits the role. I never said that Connelly is the ONLY choice for this... i was always open to good suggestions like Bayne or whoever.

[ultimatefan]

You know, if they´re really going with a younger WW... which rules out Connelly and Belucci... I´m beginning to think the best idea is kinda like Singer did with Routh... Make multiple tests with THOUSANDS of actresses all over US, UK, Canada, Australia... Just go for the actress who he feels embodies all the necessary qualities, even if it´s someone none of us has heard of before.

[The Sage]

As i have stated before...1..among the general movie going audience.....she is NOT as iconic as Batman, Superman, Spiderman.

Write this down, because I want you to do this.

Go out in the street, find a bum, show him a pic of WW and ask him who she is. Report back after you're finished.

[pimpernel]

You know, if they´re really going with a younger WW... which rules out Connelly and Belucci... I´m beginning to think the best idea is kinda like Singer did with Routh... Make multiple tests with THOUSANDS of actresses all over US, UK, Canada, Australia... Just go for the actress who he feels embodies all the necessary qualities, even if it´s someone none of us has heard of before.

Absolutely... to be honest thats always been the way to go with this but i don't know if Joss and Silver are the kind of people that would be up for doing that.

[The Techno Bat]

LOL... i already said a few times i'm totally cool with it so long as he gets someone good that fits the role. I never said that Connelly is the ONLY choice for this... i was always open to good suggestions like Bayne or whoever.

LoL...Thanks Pimp

Has anybody mentioned Mía Maestro? And if not I think she could be a good fit for the role. Originally I voted for Tsianina Joelson. But the more and more that I think about it, as pretty as she is, I think they might need an actress with a bit more acting chops to pull it off, so that is why I am suggesting Mia Maestro....

[Steelsheen]

you're late by about a couple of pages dude.

key word is bellyachin'

[The Sage]

Yes, but when you compare Routh with the comics Superman, he looks NOTHING like him. Singer knows (or knew) nothing about Superman except from the Donner films. That's what worries me. I just hope Lex's character in the movie is more like the comics than Gene Hackman.

Minus the brown eyes he looks like Superman to me. Reminds me of the Supes from Action Comics 800.

But anyway, back on topic. :)

[Steelsheen]

meh, Routh is a generic Supes look-alike. he brings nothing special looks-wise compared to Reeve.

to try to steer this back on topic.

Lynda Carter looks like the comic book icon come to life, and comic book illustrations look like her years after she donned the wondersuit. like it or not the same preassure will be on the new WW if not moreso.

[The Techno Bat]

you're late by about a couple of pages dude.

key word is bellyachin'

what's that supposed to mean? Was she already mentioned? Or has somebody been specifically choosen to play the role of Wonder Woman? Last I checked nobody has been picked so I am open to throw out names just like everybody else....

[The Sage]

meh, Routh is a generic Supes look-alike. he brings nothing special looks-wise compared to Reeve.

Meh, not like Reeve but I don't think he looks generic.

to try to steer this back on topic.

Good idea. :p


Lynda Carter looks like the comic book icon come to life, and comic book illustrations look like her years after she donned the wondersuit. like it or not the same preassure will be on the new WW if not moreso.

Of course. I'm hoping they find the right person.

[dnno1]

well that is your flawed way of thinking......your saying that the name WW alone, will sell this film in itself.....and i disagree big time! As i have stated before...1..among the general movie going audience.....she is NOT as iconic as Batman, Superman, Spiderman.
I will start my rebuttal with a quote:

"Wonder Woman satisfies the subconscious, elaborately disguised desire of males to be mastered by a woman who loves them."

Dr. William Moulton Marston
inventor of the lie detector and
(under the pseudonym Charles Moulton)
creator of Wonder Woman
I do not think my reasoning is flawed. Five months after Wonder Woman first issued in All American Comics back in 1943 she was rated 40 to 1 over her nearest male superhero rival in a readers poll conducted by the publishers (source Castlekeys Galleries (http://www.castlekeys.com/Pages/wonder.html)). Since then, she has had her own comic book for over 60 years (only Batman and Superman have ran longer). This is more than deserving of an icon status. Do you know of any other female heroine with such credentials? Take note that Catwoman and Electra are secondary charaters and have never sustained their own titles for as long as Wonder Woman. Even Joss Whedon -- a director, writer and producer, who co-wrote "Toy Story" and is most famously known for creating "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" -- in an E-online article, had admitted that she is the most iconic female character of our time (see article (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,16145,00.html)). I believe this to be true and that this is the difference between Catwoman and Electra (they would not have existed in film without the Batman and Daredevil movies respectively).

2. this is a female heroine.....it's going to be hard enough to show to the movie going audience, that this film will be any different then Elecktra, Catwoman, etc. IMO....this WW story that Joss comes up with...must have the female lead be like Kill Bills Bride....and Million Dollar Babies Maggie. Strong female leads that have faults...but make you want to care for and root for their characters no matter what! To execute that....a solid actress is needed, but first a solid script is needed of course...to entice the good actress.
I will agree that doing a movie about a female heroine is not easy (considering the success of movies like Tank Girl, Catwoman, and Electra). But with the right combination of scripting and casting, this movie could be better than Tomb Rader, which turned into a 2 movie franchise (and counting). Joss Whedon has proven himself as a credible writer and director. I think he understands the shoes that he has to fill I trust that he will not mess up this movie.

3. When promoting the film........WB's does not have to say Jennifer Connelly as Wonder Woman.....or start showing Academy Award Winner Jennifer Connelly.......they can always market the film....just like how they are doing for BEGINS......without showing the actors names in teasers and trailers. All people would need to see...is a toned up and in shape Connelly in intense scenes of drama, mystery and of course wonder.....and then the movie audience interest will be there for sure. I just want a good if not great actress for this role....is what it comes down to.
You have to realize that it is not the WB's choice as to who does and who does not get top billing in a movie. This is a negotiable thing. A big time actor or actress can leverage top billing based on their status (i.e. they can say "I won't do the movie unless I get top billing and that's it"). If they go with an unknown, they may not have to deal with this, but of course that all depends on who makes up the rest of the cast (remember I had said the Marlon Brando got top billing for Superman 1).

To summarize (and emphacise) my point. Wonder Woman is an iconic figure. Any character that has survived more than 40 years in the comic books with their own title has acheived that status. Yes it will be dificult to do a superheroine movie, but if it s done right (with the proper balance of scripting and casting) a successful film franchise can be pulled off although the Wonder Woman character bears enough renown that it does not need a famous actress to play the lead role.

Dno

[Steelsheen]

what's that supposed to mean? Was she already mentioned? Or has somebody been specifically choosen to play the role of Wonder Woman? Last I checked nobody has been picked so I am open to throw out names just like everybody else....
there was an article from a dude who attended the LA Con which Whedon attended, and he mentioned Connelly to him. Whedon didnt address that, kinda danced around it. its obvious from how the conversation went that its Whedon's polite way of saying "no".

[The Techno Bat]

there was an article from a dude who attended the LA Con which Whedon attended, and he mentioned Connelly to him. Whedon didnt address that, kinda danced around it. its obvious from how the conversation went that its Whedon's polite way of saying "no".

Thank YOu Steelsheen, but I already knew that, I haven't been in this thread for awhile and was just getting caught up a bit with Pimp. I knew he was big for having Connelly play the part, and just wanted to get his feedback is all. I have never mentioned her for the part. I have always been big for Tsia Joellson, but now after thinking about what Pimpernel has been saying about a solid actress playing the part I think that Mia Maestro could do an excellent job.

[SolidRoar]

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I changed the eye colour on some of them to help folks visualise. In some pics i think she kinda looks a wee bit like a younger Jennifer Connelly (which is no bad thing) plus she has that exotic look for all the folks that moan about Wonder Woman looking Greek. I've seen her act in a bunch of things and she is pretty good. Height-wise she is about four inches shorter than WW but thats nothing with heels and camera angles. All in all she would be pretty damn good IMO. :pI agree that she looks like Connelly in some of the pics - I noticed that before reading your comment, actually. What strikes me about her is that she looks different in each photo. In some pics, she has a very sweet and innocent look to her, and in others, she looks tough. This is the kind they should be looking for, IMHO.

[SolidRoar]

Minus the brown eyes he looks like Superman to me. Reminds me of the Supes from Action Comics 800.

But anyway, back on topic. :)Well, I sure envy you for that. :p

Here's hoping they change him enough for my eyes.

[Super_Ludacris]

Jordana looks good in those last 2 pics :)

[harlandarlin]

I think someone who is more of an unknown should be chosen for wonderwoman. I think the idea of Jessica Biel could be ok cause she isnt a huge huge star and she looks different with black hair. But If I really had to choose between thus far mentioned contenders, I'd vote Lucy Lawless all the way or Jordan Bayne. I have not seen Bayne act nor heard her voice, but sounds like she has a good acting rep, can do stunts and she has those intense blue eyes like WW should have. Jennifer Connelly has them too, but she has done so much including hulk that i can't see her as Wonder Woman or seperate her from the character. Wonder Woman is a bigger than life character much like Superman and you either need a female action star like Lawless( who would look perfect as WW, has acting chops and has played a similar role in Xena) or you need someone less known like Bayne who brings no baggage to this role allowing you to completely believe in an amazon with a golden lasso of truth. Also Bayne has a cool smile and her brows are great, when she looks mad she looks like she could really kick your arse! After checking out her site seem slike Wb has recently asked Jordan to submit her info and photos, I hope that means they are seriously considering her. And if Wonder Woman is an actress of color I vote Rosario Dawson all the way!!!!!!!! Marry me Rosario.

[portland2002]

I think someone who is more of an unknown should be chosen for wonderwoman. I think the idea of Jessica Biel could be ok cause she isnt a huge huge star and she looks different with black hair. But If I really had to choose between thus far mentioned contenders, I'd vote Lucy Lawless all the way or Jordan Bayne. I have not seen Bayne act nor heard her voice, but sounds like she has a good acting rep, can do stunts and she has those intense blue eyes like WW should have. Jennifer Connelly has them too, but she has done so much including hulk that i can't see her as Wonder Woman or seperate her from the character. Wonder Woman is a bigger than life character much like Superman and you either need a female action star like Lawless( who would look perfect as WW, has acting chops and has played a similar role in Xena) or you need someone less known like Bayne who brings no baggage to this role allowing you to completely believe in an amazon with a golden lasso of truth. Also Bayne has a cool smile and her brows are great, when she looks mad she looks like she could really kick your arse! After checking out her site seem slike Wb has recently asked Jordan to submit her info and photos, I hope that means they are seriously considering her. And if Wonder Woman is an actress of color I vote Rosario Dawson all the way!!!!!!!! Marry me Rosario.

Hmmm, I thought Jennifer Connelly's eyes were hazel (light brown flecked with green)?

[dnno1]

Possible casting call for Wonder Woman http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

Check out this link (http://www.spanix.com/html/ShowNews.asp?pg=42&ID=894).


Dno

[BT18]

Whether you feel like fighting it or not, could people who acknowledge the aproximate age that Whedon has said the actress is going to be, contribute additional ideas for that age range as I initially asked before being lied about and misinterpreted ad nausium. And then maybe the mods will allow for a seperate thread and/or poll for discussion of that group of actresses that go along with the reality of the filmmakers plans.

[BT18]

Possible casting call for Wonder Woman http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

Check out this link (http://www.spanix.com/html/ShowNews.asp?pg=42&ID=894).


Dno

No, supergirl is a seperate superhero from Wonder Woman. Hence "Brown to blonde hair". Not "Brown to black" which would be a giveaway that they're actually looking for WW.

I think the thing about "Latina" is the newssources editorialized wishful thinking as it is a latin-targeted rag, atleast that's what it seemed like on the surface.

[harlandarlin]

ok I been thinking about this cause i am a huge wonder woman fan. Here are my updated picks for Wonder Woman.

1) Jordan Bayne
2) Rhona Mitra
3) Lucy Lawless
4) Renee Sofer (even if she is 5'6' she has the eyes and is gorgeous)
5) Julie Dreyfus (sophie in kill bill)
Sherilynn Fenn (honorable mention)

i really think 10-15 years ago Famke Jansen would have been perfect for this.

[superheromovies]

this reminds me, I need to find a pic I found recently of jordan bayne. She is toned and I found out also knows and teaches martial arts. so far I'm liking what I'm finding out about her and she has the physical ability to do the stunts and fight scenes herself.

now... gotta dig for that pic :)



yeah, it's like what's happening with Superman Returns. They're casting with Reeves in mind, instead of getting a guy who looks like the Superman from the comics.

Carter was hot, and played the role well, but she doesn't look like an Amazon to me. Maybe someone a little more toned. Jessica Biel has the build, IMO, but not the face. All the actress mentioned above have some of the qualities, but not all. I agree with X-maniac that they should go with someone who encapsulates everything, instead of just going with a name who bases a little resemblance.