Official Wonder Woman Casting Suggestions [merged-13]

[jbonline]

hello all, I think I'm in the right place ;) are there any internet gurus here that can help me sign up for an MSN account? I use yahoo but have found some WW fans out there that prefer MSN and I need a user account so I can chat it up with them. all help is greatly appreciated :)

[jbonline]

Guys, I appreciate both sides but please let me handle the copyright issues for my site. yes, it is protected and unfortunately I have seen it where people have gotten... erm, anal to the point that they've gone after boards, but let's just focus on WW, the topic and just not fight okay? I think both sides had the best of intentions but it's getting heated, and I seriously doubt anyone here wants to have a knock down drag out fight.

Who's with me?? :)

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

you're the only one that I have seen that's taken someone's created web site image, not a pic they post for photos or images from magazines, you took a created piece of work that was for the web site alone, not something that was put on the web in general for a fashion shoot, which I clearly stated in prev post, so perhaps you're singling this out to fight, since you've neglectled to notice that part of my post. There's a big difference between the two. stick with the photos or something like everyone else is doing.

and here's a thought to gear towards that's related to this thread and even Joss admits to it. He always throws up a smoke screen of sorts before casting his things. what if tossing out a teenager for the role is nothing more than the usual smoke screen he uses?

[pimpernel]

Guys, I appreciate both sides but please let me handle the copyright issues for my site. yes, it is protected and unfortunately I have seen it where people have gotten... erm, anal to the point that they've gone after boards, but let's just focus on WW, the topic and just not fight okay? I think both sides had the best of intentions but it's getting heated, and I seriously doubt anyone here wants to have a knock down drag out fight.

Who's with me?? :)

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

Well said. Thanks for putting this to bed. :up:

[jbonline]

watch my lip, I can do a great elvis impression


thankyah, thankyah'vrr'much ;)

do you know anything about setting up an MSN username/account?

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

Well said. Thanks for putting this to bed. :up:

[pimpernel]

watch my lip, I can do a great elvis impression


thankyah, thankyah'vrr'much ;)

do you know anything about setting up an MSN username/account?

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

We really need an Elvis smiley in here... that would be pretty awesome.

*Wiggles hips*

Uhuh-huh.

Wish i could help you with the MSN account... i'll ask a couple of friends and get back to on that. ;)

[dnno1]

watch my lip, I can do a great elvis impression


thankyah, thankyah'vrr'much ;)

do you know anything about setting up an MSN username/account?

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

I would try going to the MSM Messenger (http://messenger.msn.com/) website. If you alread have a Hotmail or MSM.com email address you should already registered. If you do not have the MSM software you may download it from there.

Dno

[jbonline]

yeah did that, got distracted talking with all you great people in pm here ;) I'll try later when the coffee hits my system, muhahaha!

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

I would try going to the MSM Messenger (http://messenger.msn.com/) website. If you alread have a Hotmail or MSM.com email address you should already registered. If you do not have the MSM software you may download it from there.

Dno

[jbonline]

danke :)

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

We really need an Elvis smiley in here... that would be pretty awesome.

*Wiggles hips*

Uhuh-huh.

Wish i could help you with the MSN account... i'll ask a couple of friends and get back to on that. ;)

[superheromovies]

I'd like that. I'm sorry for coming on so strong, I just do not want to lose another great board. I haven't been here long but this board rocks with all of the people and things offered here. I'm glad to know you aren't one of those people that go ape kaka over people using your things, but I've seen the effects of someone that isn't that nice. Anyway, I hope we can put it behind us and move on to maybe actually liking each other in the near future. I still think Joss needs his head examined if he's going for the teen crowd. Nothing is going to change my opinion on that one. Did anyone catch the post about Joss possibly trying to fool all of us?


Guys, I appreciate both sides but please let me handle the copyright issues for my site. yes, it is protected and unfortunately I have seen it where people have gotten... erm, anal to the point that they've gone after boards, but let's just focus on WW, the topic and just not fight okay? I think both sides had the best of intentions but it's getting heated, and I seriously doubt anyone here wants to have a knock down drag out fight.

Who's with me?? :)

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

[pimpernel]

I'd like that. I'm sorry for coming on so strong, I just do not want to lose another great board. I haven't been here long but this board rocks with all of the people and things offered here. I'm glad to know you aren't one of those people that go ape kaka over people using your things, but I've seen the effects of someone that isn't that nice. Anyway, I hope we can put it behind us and move on to maybe actually liking each other in the near future. I still think Joss needs his head examined if he's going for the teen crowd. Nothing is going to change my opinion on that one. Did anyone catch the post about Joss possibly trying to fool all of us?

*Hugs superheromovies*

Joss definately needs his head looked at. I'm sure there could be a suitably mature and talented and Diana-esque actress in her early twenties lurking out there somewhere but its a long shot and none of the actresses i've seen in that age range so far have made me go wow the way that people like Connelly or Bayne have done.

My thing is... if you have an actress right in front of you that has the look and the talent and isn't too old then why pass her over for someone that most likely will not have as good a look (cos they likely will look too girlish) or be as good an actress (cos they are young and inexperienced) purely cos you have a thing against older actresses? Thats dumb. Regardless of how old they actually are both Connelly and Bayne look no older than about 25-30 and that is perfect.

I saw the smokescreen thing and i hope thats true but i don't know... the same qoute came from the guy doing the art for X-Men and i doubt if it were a smokescreen that they would think to bring him in on it... maybe they wuld tho i dunno.

Thing is they apparently asked Bayne's people for some head shots a wee while back so either the young actress thing is BS or they came up with it AFTER they asked for the head shots.

[jbonline]

I can answer that part. they did ask for them and still are. I was contacted myself and know that the young gal stuff was done during the time. I agree that joss has a habit of tossing up road blocks in regards to people finding out what he's up to. and I've been catching up with posts (lots, lol!) and wanted to point out too, jordan was just literally interviewed by two papers about the WW movie and she doesn't deal with fake stuff. if it's on her site, it happened. she won't even think of letting anything touch her site unless it's on the up and up, even rumors and I'm the same way. people's reps are smashed when they start playing with tossing out rumors and get the label of untrustworthiness, you know what I mean? that's one of the reasons why I wanted to hop over here, to clear up rumors from facts, and to just have fun with fellow WW fans :)

hope everyone's getting over having to lose an hour of sleep, I'm drinking about a gallon of caffiene to get myself going, lol!

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo


Thing is they apparently asked Bayne's people for some head shots a wee while back so either the young actress thing is BS or they came up with it AFTER they asked for the head shots.

[pimpernel]

I can answer that part. they did ask for them and still are. I was contacted myself and know that the young gal stuff was done during the time. I agree that joss has a habit of tossing up road blocks in regards to people finding out what he's up to. and I've been catching up with posts (lots, lol!) and wanted to point out too, jordan was just literally interviewed by two papers about the WW movie and she doesn't deal with fake stuff. if it's on her site, it happened. she won't even think of letting anything touch her site unless it's on the up and up, even rumors and I'm the same way. people's reps are smashed when they start playing with tossing out rumors and get the label of untrustworthiness, you know what I mean? that's one of the reasons why I wanted to hop over here, to clear up rumors from facts, and to just have fun with fellow WW fans :)

hope everyone's getting over having to lose an hour of sleep, I'm drinking about a gallon of caffiene to get myself going, lol!

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

See this is cool. Its nice to have someone be able to give us some definite news about this stuff. A lot of people pop in here and blatantly make up stories about their favourite actress being connected to the role and whatever which is why i was kinda wary about the Jordan newspaper stuff cos i hadn't actually read it myself... its good to know that stuff is on the level.

Its also good to know that Jordan is still being hassled for pics... it makes me hopeful that the recent thing about younger actresses is some kind of smokescreen or that it has maybe been taken too literally or something.

[jbonline]

I'll be posting articles this week that I've gotten from the papers, so you're more than welcome to peek at 'em :)

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

See this is cool. Its nice to have someone be able to give us some definite news about this stuff. A lot of people pop in here and blatantly make up stories about their favourite actress being connected to the role and whatever which is why i was kinda wary about the Jordan newspaper stuff cos i hadn't actually read it myself... its good to know that stuff is on the level.

Its also good to know that Jordan is still being hassled for pics... it makes me hopeful that the recent thing about younger actresses is some kind of smokescreen or that it has maybe been taken too literally or something.

[Dark Knight]

if Whedon goes with a younger early 20's actress who is also an unknown actress...well then the film will not bode well with me. I'll be disappointed and turned off big time if he tries to target the teeny bopper crowd...because that means he will be compromising the integrity of the character and quality of the movie IMO. Connelly IS WW and forever will be in my mind.

[pimpernel]

I'll be posting articles this week that I've gotten from the papers, so you're more than welcome to peek at 'em :)

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

Cool... posting them here or on your site? Cos i think it migh be worhtwhile to post them here too. ;)

[pimpernel]

Jordan Bayne...

http://tinypic.com/2km2v9

[dnno1]

if Whedon goes with a younger early 20's actress who is also an unknown actress...well then the film will not bode well with me. I'll be disappointed and turned off big time if he tries to target the teeny bopper crowd...because that means he will be compromising the integrity of the character and quality of the movie IMO. Connelly IS WW and forever will be in my mind.

Now calm down, Dark Knight. Just because the actress is 24 years old doesn't mean that she is apealing solely to the teeny bopper crowd. Remember, Lynda Carter was 24 when she took the role as Wonder Woman back in 1975 (and the TV show was written to apeal to a family audience). That seems to have worked then since the show ran for 4 seasons. It is early in the game right now. If you want to be true to the character, you want to attempt to find an actress that is going to closely match her height, build, looks and age. That would mean that they should be trying to find an actress that is 5-11 or taller, is about 24-25 years old, about 140 lbs., dark haired, and fair or olive skined. As time goes by, if there are problems trying to cast the role or if the production company feels that a more experienced actress will sell the movie better, then a change to another (possibly older) actress can be made. I actually believe that it can be pulled off and acting talent is not an issue here. If people like Dana Owens, Snoop Dog, Ice Cube, Elvis, Arnold Swarzenegger, et. al. can come off the street and start making hit films, the WB can certainly find a 24 year old to play a role in a superheroine film. I have this strange feeling that our unknown could be a former (super) model. They are tall, relatively cheap retain (compared to big time film stars), and more than likely immune to typcasting (they could always go back to what they were doing before).

Dno

[Dark Knight]

Now calm down, Dark Knight. Just because the actress is 24 years old doesn't mean that she is apealing solely to the teeny bopper crowd. Remember, Lynda Carter was 24 when she took the role as Wonder Woman back in 1975 (and the TV show was written to apeal to a family audience). That seems to have worked then since the show ran for 4 seasons. It is early in the game right now. If you want to be true to the character, you want to attempt to find an actress that is going to closely match her height, build, looks and age. That would mean that they should be trying to find an actress that is 5-11 or taller, is about 24-25 years old, about 140 lbs., dark haired, and fair or olive skined. As time goes by, if there are problems trying to cast the role or if the production company feels that a more experienced actress will sell the movie better, then a change to another (possibly older) actress can be made. I actually believe that it can be pulled off and acting talent is not an issue here. If people like Dana Owens, Snoop Dog, Ice Cube, Elvis, Arnold Swarzenegger, et. al. can come off the street and start making hit films, the WB can certainly find a 24 year old to play a role in a superheroine film. I have this strange feeling that our unknown could be a former (super) model. They are tall, relatively cheap retain (compared to big time film stars), and more than likely immune to typcasting (they could always go back to what they were doing before).

Dno


Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW. For cryin out loud....she played her on a cheesy interpretation of her. This WW film should feature an ideal WW. Not one who is a 20-25 year old unknown inexperienced actress. I want good story, good crew, good actors and solid direction. Do you??

[The Sage]

Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW. For cryin out loud....she played her on a cheesy interpretation of her. This WW film should feature an ideal WW. Not one who is a 20-25 year old unknown inexperienced actress. I want good story, good crew, good actors and solid direction. Do you??

Of course. But unknown could still be the ideal WW. Doesn't matter if she's known or not, it's all about the skills. I wish them luck on the search for the early 20s unknown, I hope they stretch out to late 20s as well.

[Gratticus]

Yeah, I agree Lynda Carter is not the ideal WW. Too scrawny.

[Dark Knight]

Of course. But unknown could still be the ideal WW. Doesn't matter if she's known or not, it's all about the skills. I wish them luck on the search for the early 20s unknown, I hope they stretch out to late 20s as well.


with me getting an unknown actress in her 20's is not the way to go. Too risky. Yes...it is all about the skills....and Jennifer Connelly would beat them all in a head to head competition and auditions for the role. I'll bet on it..... :cool:

[pimpernel]

Yeah, I agree Lynda Carter is not the ideal WW. Too scrawny.

In what way is this woman scrawny?

http://tinypic.com/2kpxjo

http://tinypic.com/2kpxkm

You need your glasses changed.

[pimpernel]

Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW. For cryin out loud....she played her on a cheesy interpretation of her. This WW film should feature an ideal WW. Not one who is a 20-25 year old unknown inexperienced actress. I want good story, good crew, good actors and solid direction. Do you??

Yes she was. The show was cheesy... Carter was not... don't make that mistake.

Look at Ron Perlman in Hellboy for instance... he WAS Hellboy even tho the movie as a whole wasn't anything like the comics... it was more like a supernatural X-Men.

Sure the TV show was camp and cheesy but Carter played it straight and she WAS Wonder Woman... a big part of the character in the comics (tho not now that Perez has killed it off) was her playful sense of humour... Carter nailed that while still being able to be regal and elegant and even intimidating... thats Wonder Woman dude.

[dnno1]

Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW. For cryin out loud....she played her on a cheesy interpretation of her. This WW film should feature an ideal WW. Not one who is a 20-25 year old unknown inexperienced actress. I want good story, good crew, good actors and solid direction. Do you??

First of all, to say that Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW to some people is sacrilege. Although some of the pictures posted here do not show it, she was a very beautiful woman (former Miss Wold USA) and did a very good job as Wonder Woman (notice how she hasn't been replaced since) and she has definitely made people forget about Cathy Lee Crosby.

Secondly, I don't think that anybody complained about Kate Winslet (22, "Titanic"), Elisabeth Taylor (12, "National Velvet"), and Kirsten Dunst (12, "Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles"), nor Brooke Shields (15, "The Blue Lagoon") and they were under 24 when they made hit films. You guys have to get off your high horses here and wake up and smell the coffee. A woman is pretty much in her prime at age 24 in the acting business and finding a good unknown at that age is done all the time.

Dno

[pimpernel]

First of all, to say that Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW to some people is sacrilege. Although some of the pictures posted here do not show it, she was a very beautiful woman (former Miss Wold USA) and did a very good job as Wonder Woman (noticed how she hasn't been replaced since) and she has definitely made people forget about Cathy Lee Crosby.

Secondly, I don't think that anybody complained about Kate Winslet (22, "Titanic"), Elisabeth Taylor (12, "National Velvet"), and Kirsten Dunst (12, "Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles"), nor Brooke Shields (15, "The Blue Lagoon") and they were under 24 when they made hit films. You guys have to get off your high horses here and wake up and smell the coffee. A woman is pretty much in her prime at age 24 in the acting business and finding a good unknown at that age is done all the time.

Dno

Dnno chill a wee bit. :)

I'm not trying to argue with you here so i hope you don't take it that way. Let me just say the following:

1) Of course its possible to find good actress at that age and younger... hell look at how young Dakota Fanning is right now and she consistently acts her co-stars off the screen. What we are saying tho is thats its difficult to find someone who doesn't look too young and girly at that age. Wonder Woman needs to look like a Woman and while it is possible to find mature and womanly twenty-four year-olds most of the ones i've found so far look like girls. Then factor in that not only does she have to look like a woman but she has to look like WONDER woman AND be able to act AND be physical and it becomes a whole helluva lot harder to find someone that ticks all the boxes.

2) I wouldn't get wrapped up in the age thing. From what i'm hearing Biel was never approached and Jordan Bayne's people are still being asked for pictures... WB or whoever would NOT be still hassling her for pictures if they had made up their mind to go with this early-twenties rubbish.

[BT18]

I've already explained what bull****e it is to use the absolutely baseless "teenybopper" attack against people who are in their early 20's. It doesn't even freaking correlate (TEEN is in the word, morons). And there is ZERO evidence that Joss's motive in prefurring someone at that age is to appeal to anyone of any age. And this notion that many of the old-actress-prefurring posters seem insistant on peddling, that somehow if there were able, talented actresses in there early 20's then we must have heard of them and they must have almost as much or the same amound of (manufactured) critical acclaim and artsy gravitas is the most at-odds with reality BS line in quite some time. As I've said. Older people run hollywood, and it's awards, and dole out the respect and power at their leasure. And younger voices have pretty much no say in the heirarchy. It's pretty much decided that with a couple red herrings every now and then, that unless you're the kids of the rich, powerful, and connected, that you're going to have to work on mindless crap in the WB/Fox/Major Network Sitcom/Slasher movie/tweenstar's romantic comedy hellhole in order to make a living.

For every Scarlett Johansson that the there are 500 Brandon Routhes, and it doesn't mean that the one they throw a respect-bone to is any better of an actor on average. Does it mean she has a better agent/publicist/and PR team? Yes, but not better acting skills of any substance.

[pimpernel]

Do you really expect anyone to bother taking you seriously when you litter your posts with "morons" and obscenities directed at people that have actually taken the time to make some valid points?

[batdude]

Pimp, where exactly did you hear that Biel was never approached? I thought it might have been pre Whedon, but if she was NEVER asked, then somebody is outright lying to the fans.

[BK]

In what way is this woman scrawny?

http://tinypic.com/2kpxjo

http://tinypic.com/2kpxkm


You need your glasses changed.
Wow, those breastplates sure give a false illusion...:o

[pimpernel]

I'm not at liberty to say... its OK if you don't believe me i'm just putting out there what i heard and folks can choose to belive it or not as they see fit.

One thing i will say is that nobody is lying to the fans as such... Silver and Whedn have NEVER said anything about Biel or Basinger. People have somehow got it twisted and think that rumour came from a qoute from one of those guys... it didn't... it cam from an anonymous "insider" that couldn't even get his story straight.

Even before i found out that wee bit of recent info i was telling people not to believe this cos it never came from a reputable source and was never backed up or verified. Its like the time Muscles made up a BS rumour about Brandon Routh being fired from Superman Returns and Moviehole fell for it and reported it as actual news. Same thing. The Biel/Basinger rumour smacked so badly of someone having just watched Cellular and thinking how cool it would be to have those two actresses in a Wonder Woman movie together.

Yet for some reason people go on believing it. :confused:

[batdude]

I think it's probably Moviehole or whoever is talking to them that is lying. I can't see Whedon doing it. I figured Biel was a Silver or studio pick at most. I do agree that it was probably not a reputable source.

[Steelsheen]

Jordan Bayne...

http://tinypic.com/2km2v9
daym Pimp! :up:

[jbonline]

I second that!! You're GOOD!

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo
daym Pimp! :up:

[Dark Knight]

First of all, to say that Lynda Carter was not the ideal WW to some people is sacrilege. Although some of the pictures posted here do not show it, she was a very beautiful woman (former Miss Wold USA) and did a very good job as Wonder Woman (notice how she hasn't been replaced since) and she has definitely made people forget about Cathy Lee Crosby.

Secondly, I don't think that anybody complained about Kate Winslet (22, "Titanic"), Elisabeth Taylor (12, "National Velvet"), and Kirsten Dunst (12, "Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles"), nor Brooke Shields (15, "The Blue Lagoon") and they were under 24 when they made hit films. You guys have to get off your high horses here and wake up and smell the coffee. A woman is pretty much in her prime at age 24 in the acting business and finding a good unknown at that age is done all the time.

Dno


sacrilage?? by saying that Lynda Carter was NOT the ideal WW?? You guys are freakin joking right? she wasn't toned enough.....and her fight scenes were horrible! She was just eye candy....and thats all fellas.....so wake up. I want a WW that has a warrior type of mentality, but still has her sensitive side, who is toned AND again.....a good...if not GREAT actress. If you think a woman is in her prime when she is 24 years of age.....then i highly disagree with you on that buddy! No freakin way!

Does anyone want to take my bet.....that Jenn Connelly would beat out any unknown actress that she would compete against head to head for the WW role?? Any takers? Thats what i thought.....

[Dark Knight]

I've already explained what bull****e it is to use the absolutely baseless "teenybopper" attack against people who are in their early 20's. It doesn't even freaking correlate (TEEN is in the word, morons). And there is ZERO evidence that Joss's motive in prefurring someone at that age is to appeal to anyone of any age. And this notion that many of the old-actress-prefurring posters seem insistant on peddling, that somehow if there were able, talented actresses in there early 20's then we must have heard of them and they must have almost as much or the same amound of (manufactured) critical acclaim and artsy gravitas is the most at-odds with reality BS line in quite some time. As I've said. Older people run hollywood, and it's awards, and dole out the respect and power at their leasure. And younger voices have pretty much no say in the heirarchy. It's pretty much decided that with a couple red herrings every now and then, that unless you're the kids of the rich, powerful, and connected, that you're going to have to work on mindless crap in the WB/Fox/Major Network Sitcom/Slasher movie/tweenstar's romantic comedy hellhole in order to make a living.

For every Scarlett Johansson that the there are 500 Brandon Routhes, and it doesn't mean that the one they throw a respect-bone to is any better of an actor on average. Does it mean she has a better agent/publicist/and PR team? Yes, but not better acting skills of any substance.


you can believe what you want buddy....but i want WOMAN in her late 20's to early 30's to BE Wonder WOMAN....not Wonder GIRL.......

[BT18]

you can believe what you want buddy....but i want WOMAN in her late 20's to early 30's to BE Wonder WOMAN....not Wonder GIRL.......

Main Entry: wom·an
Pronunciation: 'wu-m&n, esp Southern 'wO- or 'w&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural wom·en /'wi-m&n/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English wIfman, from wIf woman, wife + man human being, man
Date: before 12th century
1 a : an adult female person b : a woman belonging to a particular category (as by birth, residence, membership, or occupation); usually used in combination <councilwoman>
2 : WOMANKIND
3 : distinctively feminine nature : WOMANLINESS
4 : a female servant or personal attendant
5 a : chiefly dialect : WIFE b : MISTRESS c : GIRLFRIEND 2
- woman adjective
- wom·an·less /-l&s/ adjective

Pronunciation Key
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Joss wants a young woman, for the first movie. You, or atleast the general group of you who seem to be feuding with reality of what he wants, want an almost middle aged woman, who would be middle aged assuredly (sp?) by the time sequels start to roll around. That's not a belief. That's a fact.

[dnno1]

sacrilage?? by saying that Lynda Carter was NOT the ideal WW?? You guys are freakin joking right? she wasn't toned enough.....and her fight scenes were horrible! She was just eye candy....and thats all fellas.....so wake up. I want a WW that has a warrior type of mentality, but still has her sensitive side, who is toned AND again.....a good...if not GREAT actress. If you think a woman is in her prime when she is 24 years of age.....then i highly disagree with you on that buddy! No freakin way!

Does anyone want to take my bet.....that Jenn Connelly would beat out any unknown actress that she would compete against head to head for the WW role?? Any takers? Thats what i thought.....

You've got to realize that Wonder Woman was never shown as muscular back in that time period even in the comics (circa 1970's and before). The American public would not tolerate that then. Women body builders were not even popular until the 1980's. That's about the time George Perez started drawing a more well toned (muscular) version of Wonder Woman. If Lynda Carter had a more muscular build back then, I am pretty shure that she would have been a big turnoff to many back in the 70's.

As for your bet, I would suggest that you don't even try it. Jennifer Connelly (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/31.html) is number 31 on the Askmen.com's top 100 most desirable list, which is qute high for a woman her age. Unfortunately young stars like Elisha Cuthbert (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/30.html), Lindsay Lohan (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/27.html), Kristin, Kreuk (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/18.html), Kiera, Knightly (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/17.html), Jessica Simpson (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/12.html), Jessica Biel (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/11.html), and Beyonce Knowles (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/8.html), rate higher than she, and all of them under 25. I am shure that there are other similar polls that poduce a similar result. If I were a big time movie mogul or a film director I would tend to listen to polls such as this just to see the trend that younger women, especially those in their early to mid 20's tend to be more popular than the older more mature ones. Thats what sells in this business and that's what I would go with (in spite of what you may think).

[pimpernel]

Lets talk polls. FHM has their 100 Sexiest poll every year. Every year i see the same thing... the girls highest up on the list are ones that have been featured in FHM that year in raunchy photoshoots. That tells me that readers and/or guys in general are pretty fickle about this kind of stuff and are easily influenced. Look at Teri Hatcher for instance... she has been out of the FHM poll for several years now... but due to Desperate Housewives and some raunchy shoots in various magazines i will lay money on her being in the top twenty this year. My point: of course younger actresses are gonna be higher in polls cos they are the ones stripping practically butt naked in magazines every month.

Its not a true representation of who people like best as an actress... most guys will agree they would probably do Elisha Cuthbert... but they also agree she can't act to save herself.

I find this pretty funny cos if you ask anyone here to name their perfect Wonder Woman you ALWAYS hear Connelly, Bellucci, Zeta Jones, Jolie, Lawless... i mean EVERYONE picks one of those five... so i just don't get this notion that a younger actress is more desireable or more sellable. Surely giving folks what they want is the most sellable thing of all? And what people seem to want is an actress around 30-35.

[pimpernel]

Main Entry: wom·an
Pronunciation: 'wu-m&n, esp Southern 'wO- or 'w&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural wom·en /'wi-m&n/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English wIfman, from wIf woman, wife + man human being, man
Date: before 12th century
1 a : an adult female person b : a woman belonging to a particular category (as by birth, residence, membership, or occupation); usually used in combination <councilwoman>
2 : WOMANKIND
3 : distinctively feminine nature : WOMANLINESS
4 : a female servant or personal attendant
5 a : chiefly dialect : WIFE b : MISTRESS c : GIRLFRIEND 2
- woman adjective
- wom·an·less /-l&s/ adjective

Pronunciation Key
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If you wanna get technical about it a girl becomes a woman when she has her first period... would you be cool with a twelve year-old Wonder Woman?

Besides with this part...

3 : distinctively feminine nature : WOMANLINESS

...you shoot yourself in the foot.


Joss wants a young woman, for the first movie. You, or atleast the general group of you who seem to be feuding with reality of what he wants, want an almost middle aged woman, who would be middle aged assuredly (sp?) by the time sequels start to roll around. That's not a belief. That's a fact.

I already told you Joss or Silver or whoever is still hassling Jordan Bayne's people for pictures... they are still very much interested in her for the role... this is directly from her business manager and her webmistress... this proves for a FACT that they are NOT going after only actresses in their early twenties. I already said this yesterday so it seems like YOU are the one feuding with reality.

[BT18]

If you wanna get technical about it a girl becomes a woman when she has her first period... would you be cool with a twelve year-old Wonder Woman?

I believe posting the dictionary definition was as true and technical as one can and need get when one person wants to only enterpret a word in a way that isn't even expressive of the actual meaning when they have little other way to further their "argument". I posted the definition. Nothing about periods in it. And no, I don't want a 12 year old playing Wonder Woman, and neither, I'm sure does Joss Whedon or any producer.

...you shoot yourself in the foot.

No, sorry, not in the least:

Main Entry: wom·an·ly
Pronunciation: -lE
Function: adjective
Date: 13th century
1 : having qualities generally associated with a woman
2 : appropriate in character to a woman
- wom·an·li·ness noun

As if the state of being the adverb form of "woman" comes within the universe of changing the meaning purveyed in the posting from me of the word "woman"

Parts of society with the agenda of accomodating sensitivites have attempted to bastardize words like "womanly", "healthy" etc with meanings/interpretations to something closer to "fat" and "old". But their PC alterations doesn't make the phenomenon any less dishonest.

I already told you Joss or Silver or whoever is still hassling Jordan Bayne's people for pictures... they are still very much interested in her for the role... this is directly from her business manager and her webmistress... this proves for a FACT that they are NOT going after only actresses in their early twenties. I already said this yesterday so it seems like YOU are the one feuding with reality.

If you did tell me that repost exactly what you said and if it all seems up to snuff (as in going beyond taking your word for taking their word) I'll apoligize for missing this bit of information.

[BT18]

Ok, I did some searching, and I seem to have found what you were talking about. A website/article that also claims

"Bayne's competition for the role include Catherine Zeta-Jones, Charisma Carpenter, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Satu Rautaharju, Angelina Jolie and Minnie Driver."

is saying that a Bayne site's webmaster is claiming that the filmmakers have contacted them in connection to their alledged interest in her.

That completely contradicts not 1, not 2, but 3 things that Whedon has said

that

1- He's looking for someone in her early 20's

2- They're a while away from the casting process, that they haven't reached that stage yet.

3- That it will be someone from outside the buffyverse (which the inclusion of Gellar and Carpenter clearly would be an example of)

sorry, don't think that that shaky hole-filled allegation of an allegation from a d-list actresses webmaster is the smoking gun you're looking for. This is the article I read BTW.
http://www.jordanbayne.com/media/articles/moviesonline.htm

On edit: I apoligize for any furthering of the unnecessary level of snipeyness that the conversation here has gotten into. For example you're right about the inclusion of "morons" in one of my posts to be out of hand. I'd hope there'd be a recognition of really unproductive and downright misleading language and attacks on the part of many of the people I've been on the recieving end of negatively on this thread as well.

It seems to me and I think some others difficult to even approach the notion of discussing or getting a poll about the age range for actors Whedon stated was the age range in consideration without getting of on defensive BS tangents about people characterizing our and/or Whedon's wants and motives for some "Teenybopper" badly acted bastardization.

[Dark Knight]

You've got to realize that Wonder Woman was never shown as muscular back in that time period even in the comics (circa 1970's and before). The American public would not tolerate that then. Women body builders were not even popular until the 1980's. That's about the time George Perez started drawing a more well toned (muscular) version of Wonder Woman. If Lynda Carter had a more muscular build back then, I am pretty shure that she would have been a big turnoff to many back in the 70's.

As for your bet, I would suggest that you don't even try it. Jennifer Connelly (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/31.html) is number 31 on the Askmen.com's top 100 most desirable list, which is qute high for a woman her age. Unfortunately young stars like Elisha Cuthbert (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/30.html), Lindsay Lohan (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/27.html), Kristin, Kreuk (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/18.html), Kiera, Knightly (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/17.html), Jessica Simpson (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/12.html), Jessica Biel (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/11.html), and Beyonce Knowles (http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/8.html), rate higher than she, and all of them under 25. I am shure that there are other similar polls that poduce a similar result. If I were a big time movie mogul or a film director I would tend to listen to polls such as this just to see the trend that younger women, especially those in their early to mid 20's tend to be more popular than the older more mature ones. Thats what sells in this business and that's what I would go with (in spite of what you may think).



my bet was in regards to ACTING.....not who men think is the most desirable!?? hahaha..oh and plus.....the avareage age of males who took that poll? Well lets see.... were probably 16 to 21 year olds! Lindsey Lohan a most desirable?? That poll is inaccurate...to say the least! So get outta here you crazy guy......sheesh. Oh and also...you keep forgetting. Your getting way ahead of yourself when it comes to sequel talk of WW already don't you think?? The script isn't even done yet! Like i have stated before....if Whedon or Silver want to show a younger Diana in the film that is in her late teens or early 20's...then cast a younger actress in that range in a certain part of the film like in flashbacks of her growing up. However, the main WW we see throughout the film should be in her late 20's to early 35 range. The thing about Connelly is that she looks like she is in her late 20's....and she is not this crazy outgoing attention getter type of star in hollywood....she is a more private and very professional type of hollywood A-lister....which is a good thing!

[Dark Knight]

Ok, I did some searching, and I seem to have found what you were talking about. A website/article that also claims

"Bayne's competition for the role include Catherine Zeta-Jones, Charisma Carpenter, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Satu Rautaharju, Angelina Jolie and Minnie Driver."

is saying that a Bayne site's webmaster is claiming that the filmmakers have contacted them in connection to their alledged interest in her.

That completely contradicts not 1, not 2, but 3 things that Whedon has said

that

1- He's looking for someone in her early 20's

2- They're a while away from the casting process, that they haven't reached that stage yet.

3- That it will be someone from outside the buffyverse (which the inclusion of Gellar and Carpenter clearly would be an example of)

sorry, don't think that that shaky hole-filled allegation of an allegation from a d-list actresses webmaster is the smoking gun you're looking for. This is the article I read BTW.
http://www.jordanbayne.com/media/articles/moviesonline.htm

On edit: I apoligize for any furthering of the unnecessary level of snipeyness that the conversation here has gotten into. For example you're right about the inclusion of "morons" in one of my posts to be out of hand. I'd hope there'd be a recognition of really unproductive and downright misleading language and attacks on the part of many of the people I've been on the recieving end of negatively on this thread as well.

It seems to me and I think some others difficult to even approach the notion of discussing or getting a poll about the age range for actors Whedon stated was the age range in consideration without getting of on defensive BS tangents about people characterizing our and/or Whedon's wants and motives for some "Teenybopper" badly acted bastardization.


Oh and by the way...when did Whedon or Silver say they wanted an actress in early 20's??? Where is the official announcement on that?

[terry78]

Regardless of who is chosen for this role, teenyboppers are going to be a major draw, seeing as how she's one of the few real female superheroes with some clout out there.

[BT18]

Oh and by the way...when did Whedon or Silver say they wanted an actress in early 20's??? Where is the official announcement on that?

...

"I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says, adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be in her early twenties and played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends."

...

http://www.tvguide.com/news/askausiello/050323.asp

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There hasn't been an official anouncement. But Whedon has many venues to alert his fans to any misquoting of him had it occured

[Dark Knight]

Regardless of who is chosen for this role, teenyboppers are going to be a major draw, seeing as how she's one of the few real female superheroes with some clout out there.


yes....but that demographic should not be catered to...and made compromise the overall quality of the film should it? Plus the teenyboppers young girls...wil probably go with their mothers to the film....at least you would hope......because i would think that the main demographic that Silver, Whedon and WB's should mainly concerned about is the adult audience IMO. Plenty of young teens and children will go to movie...but who will take them? Parents will need to enticed to see this film as well. So the best way to get them to the theater, is enticing them enough to say....."okay we are all going to see WW". Instead of the parents just dropping off there kids...and not giving a damn about the movie! I'm telling you....a toned up Connelly would bring EVERY demographic to see this film! She just has the overall goodness to her....and exuberates the ultimate definition of a woman...a Wonder Woman.....IMO..... ;)

[Dark Knight]

...

"I think we will go a little younger than the traditional idea of Wonder Woman," he says, adding that the new Princess Diana will likely be in her early twenties and played by someone outside the Buffyverse. "It's a movie, not a party for my friends."

...

http://www.tvguide.com/news/askausiello/050323.asp





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There hasn't been an official anouncement. But Whedon has many venues to alert his fans to any misquoting of him had it occured


he says he thinks...and what issue was that in?

[BT18]

he says he thinks...and what issue was that in?

I have no idea what issue it was in or if it's an online only type thing. I'm sorry I can't help you out on that info.

[BT18]

In regard to the issue of impuning motives to casting younger or older actresses for demographic appeal, please refrain from pulling so much out of thin air as you (plural) seem to be doing to an extent. It's extremely doubtful that Joss is going to make decisions about the character as he adapts it for marketing strategy. He's going to do write it, if it's consistant with his career thus far, for how he thinks the best series of movies can be made.

One thing one would think might be the ideal model these days for a superhero franchise is Spider-Man. Not only is it considered the best by the most people, and certainly the most successful in terms of every financial qualifiation, it's also probably THE model for an origin story. Which is what Joss seems to want to do. But I stress that last part is speculation.

[Dark Knight]

In regard to the issue of impuning motives to casting younger or older actresses for demographic appeal, please refrain from pulling so much out of thin air as you (plural) seem to be doing to an extent. It's extremely doubtful that Joss is going to make decisions about the character as he adapts it for marketing strategy. He's going to do write it, if it's consistant with his career thus far, for how he thinks the best series of movies can be made.

One thing one would think might be the ideal model these days for a superhero franchise is Spider-Man. Not only is it considered the best by the most people, and certainly the most successful in terms of every financial qualifiation, it's also probably THE model for an origin story. Which is what Joss seems to want to do. But I stress that last part is speculation.


oh..you mean pulling out of thin air..like you do also hmm?
:rolleyes:

i'm just specualting as to what the ramifications would be of casting an early 20's unknown actress...compared to a known or at least semi-unknown late 20's to 35 year old actress with good experience. Oh and i don't want a copy of Spider-Man...I want a distinguished Wonder Woman film....that will be right up there with other strong heroine type of characters that we have seen onscreen recently....namely in Kill Bill and Million Dollar Baby. That's the type of heroine i want because...that is what garners critical praise...and gains the respect of a big demographic that needs to be attracted to this film. Females between 15 and 40.

[Dark Knight]

Females between 15 and 40.


Come to think of it.....this demographic will most likely make or break this film when it comes to box office receipts that is. They attract that demo.....then the film will be looking good financially.

[GL1]

I find this pretty funny cos if you ask anyone here to name their perfect Wonder Woman you ALWAYS hear Connelly, Bellucci, Zeta Jones, Jolie, Lawless... i mean EVERYONE picks one of those five... so i just don't get this notion that a younger actress is more desireable or more sellable. Surely giving folks what they want is the most sellable thing of all? And what people seem to want is an actress around 30-35.

My PERFECT Wonder Woman would be Jordan Bayne. Connely is awesome, no doubt, but she doesn't strike me as 'perfect' (remember that trend when everyone wanted a greek actress to be wonder woman, THAT was funny...) just very good...

People, even outside the hype, want the upsides of an experienced actress (ie Presence, serenity) but the movie won't have a 'goddess' if it doesn't find that in a younger actress, whose upsides we are continually overlooking around here. No matter how good a 35 year old actress is for WW, she's probably not going to be as good for the part of an immortal at age 50 (bowflex ads aside :) )

Trust me, marketing should win this one and compromise on the rest of it's hairbrained schemes...

Besides, Joss may NEED a young actress for purposes only he can devise... giving him Bellucci could kill all his plans for the franchise... I have a strong feeling Joss is going to take this one for all it's worth...

[BT18]

Well, that last post was sort of me trying to get a bunch of thoughts out at once about different things not necessarily related and it might not have come out as clearly as I would have liked.

But specifically about the notion of perhaps anyone wanting a "copy" of Spider-Man. No, that wasn't what I was saying at all. Spider-Man I sort of brought up perhaps to consider as a movie about a spider-MAN (the feminine obviously being "woman") and also an origin story. And that Joss is also wanting to do an origin story, not a hero-in-progress movie with flashbacks to the origin. That consideration does not denote a want for a copy. I just think Joss probably prefurs a real origin movie. An example of which being Spider-Man. And yes, I know Tobey's older than Early 20's. And that's another topic whether that's a good thing or not which I'd prefur not to get off on a different tangent about.

[pimpernel]

Ok, I did some searching, and I seem to have found what you were talking about. A website/article that also claims

"Bayne's competition for the role include Catherine Zeta-Jones, Charisma Carpenter, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Satu Rautaharju, Angelina Jolie and Minnie Driver."

is saying that a Bayne site's webmaster is claiming that the filmmakers have contacted them in connection to their alledged interest in her.

That completely contradicts not 1, not 2, but 3 things that Whedon has said

that

1- He's looking for someone in her early 20's

2- They're a while away from the casting process, that they haven't reached that stage yet.

3- That it will be someone from outside the buffyverse (which the inclusion of Gellar and Carpenter clearly would be an example of)

sorry, don't think that that shaky hole-filled allegation of an allegation from a d-list actresses webmaster is the smoking gun you're looking for. This is the article I read BTW.
http://www.jordanbayne.com/media/articles/moviesonline.htm


Actually thats not the article i got my info from at all. I got my info directly from people that know about this stuff... not hearsay from some sloppy article.

Whether you like it or not you don't work in Hollywood and you are not an agent. I've told you that i have been told for a FACT that Jordan Bayne's people are still being asked for pictures... if you want to be abusive and immature and dismiss that cos it doesn't fit in with your personal view of how things should be thats fine... i couldn't care less... but it doesn't make it any less true. I'm sure JBOnline won't mind confirming this herslef.

[pimpernel]

I believe posting the dictionary definition was as true and technical as one can and need get when one person wants to only enterpret a word in a way that isn't even expressive of the actual meaning when they have little other way to further their "argument". I posted the definition. Nothing about periods in it. And no, I don't want a 12 year old playing Wonder Woman, and neither, I'm sure does Joss Whedon or any producer.

I like how you ignore that part of the defination of woman in the dictionary is also slave or someone who serves... you can twist definitions any way you like.

If you really wanna be pedantic about it the dictionary definiton specifically refers to an ADULT female... biologically and traditionally a girl becomes an adult when she gets her period for the first time. You know that perfectly well but you are just being your usual disagreeable self. So again i ask... do you wanna see a twelve year-old Wonder Woman?

Besides... nobody here has ever said don't cast someone in their early twenties... you've got that all twisted out of context... all people are saying is that whoever is cast needs to have an air of womanly maturity to her. Some women attain that early nut for others it develops later... it varies and it is subjective so really you have no basis for making blanket proclamations... you need to do what the rest of us are doing and sit back and wait til some actual candidates are announced and take them each on their own merits.

Argue with me about this all you like but if you took a poll or something you would see that EVERYONE here wants Wonder Woman to have that mature quality regardless of age. If you don't think Wonder Woman needs that quality then frankly you know nothing about the character.

The bottom line... which is something you seem to constantly ignore... is that if most people here could choose their perfect Wonder Woman it would be someone around thirty.

If you did tell me that repost exactly what you said and if it all seems up to snuff (as in going beyond taking your word for taking their word) I'll apoligize for missing this bit of information.

No... i can't be arsed... if you missed it the first time thats your problem... go back and find it yourself. I couldn't care less if you take my word for it or not tho. I know for a fact that JBOnline is directly in touch with Bayne's business manager... i'm sure JBOnline will be happy to confirm that Bayne is still being looked at for the role... but seeing as you insulted her and seem intent not to believe her then i doubt her confirmation would matter much to you anyway.

[BT18]

Actually thats not the article i got my info from at all. I got my info directly from people that know about this stuff...

I'll start off by saying I've already attempted with my last couple posts to change the tone of this discussion towards something less attack oriented and personal and it didn't seem to help or be taken in kind judging by your response(s). I'll apoligize again for any personal tangents I might have instigated and request that you consider a more diplomatic approach.

In regard to your claim about getting a claim from those Jordan Bayne people, I'm sorry if I regard it as just that at this point. I don't really doubt that you talked to them directly, but there's almost nothing they have proved other than a claim they made, as it appears to me. It is within the realm of possibility that they have a reason to trump up excitement about the notion of her as Wonder Woman considering she obviously has a personal mission for the role.

Whether you like it or not you don't work in Hollywood and you are not an agent. I've told you that i have been told for a FACT that Jordan Bayne's people are still being asked for pictures... if you want to be abusive and immature and dismiss that cos it doesn't fit in with your personal view of how things should be thats fine... i couldn't care less... but it doesn't make it any less true. I'm sure JBOnline won't mind confirming this herslef.

Let me just submit for consideration changing the emphasis in "i have been told for a fact" from "FACT" to "TOLD". I don't want to be abusive or immature. I'm not dismissing anything. I actually want to to learn more. Below you deny my request for the repost of what you were talking about that EITHER - I missed, or you thought you had told me but had told someone else or something like that. I just want to get on the same page. Basically my understanding at this point is that the Bayne websites webmaster claims basically that the actualy Wonder Woman filmmakers have contacted them in interest for her for the role. I don't doubt that to be true. What I have a problem with is conflating that claim with the claim that that is actually happening, which from what I know has not yet been established or proven.

I like how you ignore that part of the defination of woman in the dictionary is also slave or someone who serves... you can twist definitions any way you like.

What? I genuinely have no idea where this is coming from. I read the dictionary definition. I copied the entire entry. And I pasted the entire entry. I'm not twisting any definition. I think I was in some way reacting to not a twisting, but an unwarrented narrowing of the definition. If you need me to be more clear about anything I said just ask. I'm all about specificity and probably a major reason for this thread getting so hostile on both sides is lack of specificity. With everyone, not just me or you.

If you really wanna be pedantic about it the dictionary definiton specifically refers to an ADULT female... biologically and traditionally a girl becomes an adult when she gets her period for the first time. You know that perfectly well but you are just being your usual disagreeable self. So again i ask... do you wanna see a twelve year-old Wonder Woman?

See, this is what I'm talking about with it getting personal. I'm not being disagreeable. It's not exactly pleasant of you, and quite disagreeable to ask me a rediculous, distracting, rhetorical THAT I'VE ALREADY answered. It is ironic that in the same paragraph you accuse me of being disagreeable you repeat a rhetorical that was not worth answering once. I don't know really why a dictionary is suddenly an unseemly point of reference when people start arguing about definitions or how doing so is being pedantic. but I don't know what else to do. My idea of an adult before looking it up was someone who was 18, and apparently, my idea is pretty true to it's definition.

Main Entry: [2]adult
Function: noun
Date: 1658
: one that is adult; especially : a human being after an age (as 21) specified by law
- adult·like /&-'d&lt-"lIk/ adjective

I just believe if you want to make a spefic argument, which the emphasis of WOMAN to denote - - (what, "more Jennifer Connelly-ish" ? I'll just say I can't read your mind and I'm not going to put words into your mouth, but you were using it in my estimation to denote something that it's meaning was in no way limited to and that it's meaning is just as applicable to for instance, someone in her early 20's) - - was, that it isn't pedantic to point out the fact that according to the dictionary that the argument might not be really cogent. The argument I repeat based on the word. Not all your arguments.

Besides... nobody here has ever said don't cast someone in their early twenties... you've got that all twisted out of context... all people are saying is that whoever is cast needs to have an air of womanly maturity to her. Some women attain that early nut for others it develops later... it varies and it is subjective so really you have no basis for making blanket proclamations... you need to do what the rest of us are doing and sit back and wait til some actual candidates are announced and take them each on their own merits.

Well, I completely agree that the actress needs to have an air of womanly maturity to her, and I'm sure the filmmakers do as well, especially Joss. I also agree that it's subjective and I think that people here are running into arguing in circles because we make somewhat blanket statements about the subjective.

Argue with me about this all you like but if you took a poll or something you would see that EVERYONE here wants Wonder Woman to have that mature quality regardless of age. If you don't think Wonder Woman needs that quality then frankly you know nothing about the character.

If you do think in any way I want a non-mature Wonder Woman 1- You're completely wrong, and 2- I'd like to know where you got that idea. But suffice to say we're on the same page about wanting an actress with the right maturity and I hope for future reference we'll both remember that this a very subjective thing to argue about in most cases.

The bottom line... which is something you seem to constantly ignore... is that if most people here could choose their perfect Wonder Woman it would be someone around thirty.

1- I can't ignore a notion that's yet to be established.

2- I'm generally not troubled by being in the opinion minority. And I don't subscribe to the cardinal sin of confusing the popularity of an idea with the virtue of an idea

3- I'd hope that if you and everyone else agrees that we might as well have one, that the mods will allow a new poll and thread to be started about that very question that they would allow it and not merge it into this one. Straight, non-loaded question reading something like "If you could chose the age of the actress to play Wonder Woman she would be..." (20-22,23-24,... etc). So I'll start by requesting that if that thread is started it not be merged with this one, I hope you'll join me so we can put that specific thing if not behind us, more behind us (everyone).


No... i can't be arsed... if you missed it the first time thats your problem... go back and find it yourself. I couldn't care less if you take my word for it or not tho. I know for a fact that JBOnline is directly in touch with Bayne's business manager... i'm sure JBOnline will be happy to confirm that Bayne is still being looked at for the role... but seeing as you insulted her and seem intent not to believe her then i doubt her confirmation would matter much to you anyway.

Well, I sort of addressed this issue above. How do you know that Bayne's people are en comunique with the filmmakers other than the claim of people who atleast from their perspective stand to gain from Bayne's sustained buzz.

I'm totally willing to grant you and everyone my apoligies on this matter if I could be illuminated to evidence beyond what I've repeated is my understanding of the evidence thus far (a claim by her people).

If you're refurring to my qualification of her as D-list to be the insult you're refurring I'm sorry but it's not an inacurate way to describe her status and it wasn't an ad hominem attack either. But I definetly could have used a more flattering way of talking about the, for all I know lovely, Ms. Bayne and I probably should have. I'm not intent on not believing her in the least. There has been some misinterpretation earlier about what you were talking about and so and and so forth. All I can really say at this point is I'm open to information that relates to it, and I recognize that alot of this can be cleared up if people just got on the same page.

[gregtestagent]

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[Dark Knight]

Well, that last post was sort of me trying to get a bunch of thoughts out at once about different things not necessarily related and it might not have come out as clearly as I would have liked.

But specifically about the notion of perhaps anyone wanting a "copy" of Spider-Man. No, that wasn't what I was saying at all. Spider-Man I sort of brought up perhaps to consider as a movie about a spider-MAN (the feminine obviously being "woman") and also an origin story. And that Joss is also wanting to do an origin story, not a hero-in-progress movie with flashbacks to the origin. That consideration does not denote a want for a copy. I just think Joss probably prefurs a real origin movie. An example of which being Spider-Man. And yes, I know Tobey's older than Early 20's. And that's another topic whether that's a good thing or not which I'd prefur not to get off on a different tangent about.


another thing that worked with Tobey being cast is that like Bale......they were both good semi-known actors with solid experience and resumes before they were cast as the perspective superheroes. Not complete unknowns with no experience.......(Routh)

[jbonline]

I'm not sure who you are but jordan is not a d-list actress and I'm not claiming anything, it's FACT and is still happening. so if you would, don't get rude with either one of us, we haven't done anything to you :)

to answer the contradictions you've listed, they are not contraditions. joss is known for saying one thing and going in a complete other direction to through people off the trail of what he's really doing. keep that in mind before dismissing what's actually happening compared to what is being said in articles about what he's looking for :)



http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo


Ok, I did some searching, and I seem to have found what you were talking about. A website/article that also claims

"Bayne's competition for the role include Catherine Zeta-Jones, Charisma Carpenter, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Satu Rautaharju, Angelina Jolie and Minnie Driver."

is saying that a Bayne site's webmaster is claiming that the filmmakers have contacted them in connection to their alledged interest in her.

That completely contradicts not 1, not 2, but 3 things that Whedon has said

that

1- He's looking for someone in her early 20's

2- They're a while away from the casting process, that they haven't reached that stage yet.

3- That it will be someone from outside the buffyverse (which the inclusion of Gellar and Carpenter clearly would be an example of)

sorry, don't think that that shaky hole-filled allegation of an allegation from a d-list actresses webmaster is the smoking gun you're looking for. This is the article I read BTW.
http://www.jordanbayne.com/media/articles/moviesonline.htm

On edit: I apoligize for any furthering of the unnecessary level of snipeyness that the conversation here has gotten into. For example you're right about the inclusion of "morons" in one of my posts to be out of hand. I'd hope there'd be a recognition of really unproductive and downright misleading language and attacks on the part of many of the people I've been on the recieving end of negatively on this thread as well.

It seems to me and I think some others difficult to even approach the notion of discussing or getting a poll about the age range for actors Whedon stated was the age range in consideration without getting of on defensive BS tangents about people characterizing our and/or Whedon's wants and motives for some "Teenybopper" badly acted bastardization.

[jbonline]

I'm sorry but I seriously doubt the producers or the ptb at the wb are going to contact you to verify the fact I've been told to give material to them. you have the choice of either believing or not, but I would really appreciate it if you would stop being so attacking. and just so you know, the guys that wrote about jordan and the role of ww didn't do it with a thumb up their nose, they actually contacted professionals to verify the information. professionals being the keyword here. people who's reputation must be on the mark in the business or they wouldn't be in the business; agents, newspaper columnists, news editors.

again, you have the option to stop fighting and arguing, to either accept what's going on as truth or as something you just don't want to believe, but there is no reason to turn this nice board into a posting battleground. how about getting back to the topic of who do you think should be cast as WW?

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo




Well, I sort of addressed this issue above. How do you know that Bayne's people are en comunique with the filmmakers other than the claim of people who atleast from their perspective stand to gain from Bayne's sustained buzz.

I'm totally willing to grant you and everyone my apoligies on this matter if I could be illuminated to evidence beyond what I've repeated is my understanding of the evidence thus far (a claim by her people).

If you're refurring to my qualification of her as D-list to be the insult you're refurring I'm sorry but it's not an inacurate way to describe her status and it wasn't an ad hominem attack either. But I definetly could have used a more flattering way of talking about the, for all I know lovely, Ms. Bayne and I probably should have. I'm not intent on not believing her in the least. There has been some misinterpretation earlier about what you were talking about and so and and so forth. All I can really say at this point is I'm open to information that relates to it, and I recognize that alot of this can be cleared up if people just got on the same page.

[pimpernel]

I'll start off by saying I've already attempted with my last couple posts to change the tone of this discussion towards something less attack oriented and personal and it didn't seem to help or be taken in kind judging by your response(s). I'll apoligize again for any personal tangents I might have instigated and request that you consider a more diplomatic approach.

Look man i've asked you time and again to be civilised and right when i think you have taken it on board and are gonna act mature you start name-calling and trying to pick a fight... you can't blame me for being a wee bit sceptical... if you genuinely wanna be civil this time then fair enough... i apologise.

In regard to your claim about getting a claim from those Jordan Bayne people, I'm sorry if I regard it as just that at this point. I don't really doubt that you talked to them directly, but there's almost nothing they have proved other than a claim they made, as it appears to me. It is within the realm of possibility that they have a reason to trump up excitement about the notion of her as Wonder Woman considering she obviously has a personal mission for the role.

Fair enough... i'm not asking you to believe me i'm just putting out there what i know... what you do with it is up to you.

I will say however that Bayne's people seem pretty fair to me. They didn't try to force Bayne down my throat... they actually made it pretty clear that from what they know the casting is wide open on this... all ages... knowns and unknowns... the part is totally up for grabs... yes they want Bayne to get it and they are pushing for her... but they never implied to me that she is any more likely to get it than anyone else at this time.

This was my whole point that you seem to not want to hear: the casting is wide open... people are clinging to the early-twenties rumour when now is the time they should be getting vocal about the kind of actress they REALLY want to see in the role.

I don't want to be abusive or immature. I'm not dismissing anything. I actually want to to learn more. Below you deny my request for the repost of what you were talking about that EITHER - I missed, or you thought you had told me but had told someone else or something like that. I just want to get on the same page.[QUOTE]

Fair enough. I didn't deny your request tho... i told you to go look for the post yourself... its probably only a couple of pages back.

No offence but i'm not gonna waste my time digging out old posts and repeating what i've already said every time somebody misses something.

[QUOTE]Basically my understanding at this point is that the Bayne websites webmaster claims basically that the actualy Wonder Woman filmmakers have contacted them in interest for her for the role. I don't doubt that to be true. What I have a problem with is conflating that claim with the claim that that is actually happening, which from what I know has not yet been established or proven.[QUOTE]

Again no offence but first you say you don't doubt it then you say you have a problem believing it is happening? Which is it?

That info didn't come from Bayne's webmistress... it came directly from Bayne's business manager... it has been reported on numerous websites and in numerous newspapers... and we are not just talking dodgy places like Moviehole that don't check out there facts... this info is as verified as you are gonna get on the net.

I'm sorry if you choose not to believe this but as far as concrete provable stuff goes this is the real deal. An agent or business manager simply does NOT make up stuff like this cos they will be called on it and if they are found to be telling lies they won't get work in Hollywood... simple as that.

[QUOTE]What? I genuinely have no idea where this is coming from. I read the dictionary definition. I copied the entire entry.

Well i googled and pretty much every entry i found mentions that the term is also defined as slave or someone who serves... the moral being don't take dictionary definitions too literally.

See, this is what I'm talking about with it getting personal.

Well i already addressed this.

I just believe if you want to make a spefic argument, which the emphasis of WOMAN to denote... what, "more Jennifer Connelly-ish"?

See its sarcastic comments like this that turn people against you.

I've made it plain numerous times that by WOMAN i mean someone with an air of maturity and class... seriously everyone else here understands what that is and if you can't get it then really this discussion is pointless.

Well, I completely agree that the actress needs to have an air of womanly maturity to her, and I'm sure the filmmakers do as well, especially Joss. I also agree that it's subjective and I think that people here are running into arguing in circles because we make somewhat blanket statements about the subjective.

So pardon me for swearing here but WTF are you arguing with me for? You just agreed with me. :rolleyes:

If you do think in any way I want a non-mature Wonder Woman 1- You're completely wrong, and 2- I'd like to know where you got that idea.

Again... WTF?

1- I can't ignore a notion that's yet to be established.

Jesus Christ... i've gotta ask if you even read the posts here? I'm not even gonna argue this point cos five minutes browsing through this thread will prove what i said.

If thats not enough for you then look at the poll at the top of the page... most of the suggestions there are older... the ones that aren't are mostly only on there cos of various fad rumours.

2- I'm generally not troubled by being in the opinion minority. And I don't subscribe to the cardinal sin of confusing the popularity of an idea with the virtue of an idea

I'd hope that if you and everyone else agrees that we might as well have one, that the mods will allow a new poll and thread to be started about that very question that they would allow it and not merge it into this one. Straight, non-loaded question reading something like "If you could chose the age of the actress to play Wonder Woman she would be..." (20-22,23-24,... etc). So I'll start by requesting that if that thread is started it not be merged with this one, I hope you'll join me so we can put that specific thing if not behind us, more behind us (everyone)

Fair enough. But you would have to make it clear that the poll is to be absed on what the fans want IDEALLY and not what they want influenced by anything Joss has said.

I'm totally willing to grant you and everyone my apoligies on this matter if I could be illuminated to evidence beyond what I've repeated is my understanding of the evidence thus far (a claim by her people).

Like i said short of Silve or Whedon knocking on your door and telling you in person this has been checked out and verfied all over the net and is as solid as you're gonna get. If you're not gonna believe this then you have no basis to beleive anything else you've heard.

If you're refurring to my qualification of her as D-list to be the insult you're refurring I'm sorry but it's not an inacurate way to describe her status and it wasn't an ad hominem attack either.

We both know how that remark was intended.

[tamron]

None of the others have muscles. None of them. They're all super-skinny supermodel/Hollywood types.

-ZeroCorpse

Not true. Tsianina Joelson is a former Miss Fitness America. She definitely has muscles.

http://warriordoc.com/xena/images/Pasadena/Day%203/Tsianina2.jpg http://www.ajputnam.com/xena/pasadena2001/tjp-29a.jpg
http://www.ajputnam.com/xena/pasadena2001/tjp-27a.jpg

Joelson and Jordan Bayne both look like awesome candidates. A lot of actresses could probably pull Wonder Woman off, but I like these tw the most out of everyone that has been suggested.

[dnno1]

my bet was in regards to ACTING.....not who men think is the most desirable!?? hahaha..oh and plus.....the avareage age of males who took that poll? Well lets see.... were probably 16 to 21 year olds! Lindsey Lohan a most desirable?? That poll is inaccurate...to say the least! So get outta here you crazy guy......sheesh. Oh and also...you keep forgetting. Your getting way ahead of yourself when it comes to sequel talk of WW already don't you think?? The script isn't even done yet! Like i have stated before....if Whedon or Silver want to show a younger Diana in the film that is in her late teens or early 20's...then cast a younger actress in that range in a certain part of the film like in flashbacks of her growing up. However, the main WW we see throughout the film should be in her late 20's to early 35 range. The thing about Connelly is that she looks like she is in her late 20's....and she is not this crazy outgoing attention getter type of star in hollywood....she is a more private and very professional type of hollywood A-lister....which is a good thing!

If acting is your criteria, then certainly actresses like Natalie Portman (24), and Kate Hudson (25-26) would qulalify as acadamy award winning caliber actresses. Also note that actresses like Kate Winslet, Drew Barrymore, and Wynona Ryder either won or where nominated for an academy award while in their early 20's (before they reached 25) -- note that Connelly did not win her first until she was 31 (as best supporting actress in "A Beautiful Mind").

As far as the Askmen.com poll there is no data on the demograpics of the persons being polled. The website states that the voting eligibility was restricted to a 50/50 mix of their subscribers and staff (over 250,000 voters) so it would be safe to asssume that there were no 16 and 17 year olds voting. Althought this is not a random poll, I would still have to say that it is to be considered a good indication of what a good sample of men desire in a female celebrity. Like I said before, there are also other polls with similar results.

As far as talking about sequels, just look at the trend that the WB has with its other superhero franchises (Batman and Superman). These characters are multi-film franchises. Why wouldn't you not want to do the same for Wonder Woman (or any of it's 47 other comicbook heroes). I am quite sure that Time Warner is in the business to make a profit, so if they are producing a film I would hope that it would be with the intention of making a sequel if it is a hit.

Now, I am not trying to nock Connelly here. All I am really saying is that it is not necessary to produce this film with a actress of the age an caliber of a Connelly. If the scripting is done well enough the movie could sell itself with a young unknown actress (in their early 20's).

Dno

[SolidRoar]

Not true. Tsianina Joelson is a former Miss Fitness America. She definitely has muscles.

http://warriordoc.com/xena/images/Pasadena/Day%203/Tsianina2.jpg http://www.ajputnam.com/xena/pasadena2001/tjp-29a.jpg
http://www.ajputnam.com/xena/pasadena2001/tjp-27a.jpg

Joelson and Jordan Bayne both look like awesome candidates. A lot of actresses could probably pull Wonder Woman off, but I like these tw the most out of everyone that has been suggested.Ah, it's been a while since the last time Tsianina was mentioned. Yes, she has the look and shape, and she can be both tough and cute. I hope she can pull-off the acting.

[Gratticus]

can we get some better face shots of her

[dnno1]

I just wanted to send a shout out and say happy Tartan Day to Pimpernel!

Dno

[pimpernel]

What now? Theres a Tartan Day? :confused: :o

[dnno1]

What now? Theres a Tartan Day? :confused: :o

Here in in the U.S. it is National Tartan Day (http://www.tartanday.org/). I guess we owe it to you guys since you invented the great sport of golf (which also taught us to swear).

Dno

[pimpernel]

Here in in the U.S. it is National Tartan Day (http://www.tartanday.org/). I guess we owe it to you guys since you invented the great sport of golf (which also taught us to swear).

Dno

Ohhh i did know that... thats pretty funny... tartan is just nasty. :p

You guys owe us big tho. (http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html) ;)

[Philly Phanboy]

dnno1, some of your links to Diane Kruger a couple pages back (pg68) appear to be broken...unless you wanted to link to what looks like Lance Armstrong. :confused:


http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/1059618019 HAPPY TARTAN DAY everybody! :p

[terry78]

http://www.awebcreation.com/cast/tsianina7.jpg
http://www.awebcreation.com/cast/tsianina5.gif
http://www.manmademultimedia.com/magazine/features/former/contender/26.jpg
http://www.celebrity-pictures-world.com/pictures/t/tsianina-joelson/tsianina-joelson.jpg

[pimpernel]

That bottom pic is the only one of her thats evr had me almost convinced.

Still not a very good actress IMO tho.

[dnno1]

Ohhh i did know that... thats pretty funny... tartan is just nasty. :p

You guys owe us big tho. (http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html) ;)

Especially for Scotch whisky (probably their greatest invention next to golf) and Brownian movement.

Dno

[dnno1]

dnno1, some of your links to Diane Kruger a couple pages back (pg68) appear to be broken...unless you wanted to link to what looks like Lance Armstrong. :confused:


http://scd.mm-a.yimg.com/image/1059618019 HAPPY TARTAN DAY everybody! :p
That's just like I said before. I've never really had control over any of the images that I have displayed in my posts. The controling user has the ability and the right to rename or remove the file whenever they choose and I am not going to break my neck trying to update them. I think I got my point (and a few laughs) accross at the time.

Dno

[Dark Knight]

If acting is your criteria, then certainly actresses like Natalie Portman (24), and Kate Hudson (25-26) would qulalify as acadamy award winning caliber actresses. Also note that actresses like Kate Winslet, Drew Barrymore, and Wynona Ryder either won or where nominated for an academy award while in their early 20's (before they reached 25) -- note that Connelly did not win her first until she was 31 (as best supporting actress in "A Beautiful Mind").

As far as the Askmen.com poll there is no data on the demograpics of the persons being polled. The website states that the voting eligibility was restricted to a 50/50 mix of their subscribers and staff (over 250,000 voters) so it would be safe to asssume that there were no 16 and 17 year olds voting. Althought this is not a random poll, I would still have to say that it is to be considered a good indication of what a good sample of men desire in a female celebrity. Like I said before, there are also other polls with similar results.

As far as talking about sequels, just look at the trend that the WB has with its other superhero franchises (Batman and Superman). These characters are multi-film franchises. Why wouldn't you not want to do the same for Wonder Woman (or any of it's 47 other comicbook heroes). I am quite sure that Time Warner is in the business to make a profit, so if they are producing a film I would hope that it would be with the intention of making a sequel if it is a hit.

Now, I am not trying to nock Connelly here. All I am really saying is that it is not necessary to produce this film with a actress of the age an caliber of a Connelly. If the scripting is done well enough the movie could sell itself with a young unknown actress (in their early 20's).

Dno

and all i'm saying is that it is too risky and not necessarily a must for them to cast an unknown actress in her early 20's. i don't like that idea at all...

[dnno1]

and all i'm saying is that it is too risky and not necessarily a must for them to cast an unknown actress in her early 20's. i don't like that idea at all...
Look, DK, leave the risk taking to the WB. They have been doing movies for over 100 years now and I am shure they know what they are doing. First of all their business paradigm is to mitigate risk while maximizing productivity and capital. They do this by either fully financing or co-financing the films they produce while maintaining the worldwide distribution rights or they just outright distribute films that are fully financed by some other production company. I would suspect that, in one scenario, the (WW) film will most likely be partially or fully financed by a production company like Village Roadshow Pictures, who has helped finace and produce fillms like "Constantine", "Catwoman", and the "Matrix" trilogy for the WB. If the film is a bust, like Catwoman was, it won't hurt the WB because of the low risk investment in the film and the guaranteed return from licensing and distribution rights. If the film is a hit, well we know the rest of the story there.

In another scenario, the WB could fully finance the film by themselves. This would most likely be done if they suspect that the film will be a hit, not unlike the "Harry Potter" series. Both the WB and their co-finacing partners are well versed in marketing research, and are more than apted to determine how to tweak the film to give it the best shot at making money. This would include whom to cast in the film and what should and shoud not be written in the script. So, once again, don't worry about the risk taking, leave that to the producer.

Dno

[dnno1]

I'm sorry but I seriously doubt the producers or the ptb at the wb are going to contact you to verify the fact I've been told to give material to them. you have the choice of either believing or not, but I would really appreciate it if you would stop being so attacking. and just so you know, the guys that wrote about jordan and the role of ww didn't do it with a thumb up their nose, they actually contacted professionals to verify the information. professionals being the keyword here. people who's reputation must be on the mark in the business or they wouldn't be in the business; agents, newspaper columnists, news editors.

again, you have the option to stop fighting and arguing, to either accept what's going on as truth or as something you just don't want to believe, but there is no reason to turn this nice board into a posting battleground. how about getting back to the topic of who do you think should be cast as WW?

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

I did a little research on the web and found a little blurb from Moviesonline.ca (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_3425.html) (a fan website) regarding the Jordan Bayne pictures. The article goes on to say that the webmaster of Jordanbayne-online.com told Moviesonline.ca that Bayne had been contacted about playing the role of Wonder Woman. I would take this stament with a grain of salt for the following reasons:

First of all, this information is comming from the webmaster of Jordanbayne-online.com (an unofficial fan website of Jordan Bayne -- The official website for Jordan Bayne is Jordanbayne.com (http://www.jordanbayne.com/)) and not from Jordan Bayne or her publicist. The article goes on to say that the same webmaster was the one who gave the pictures to the (supposed) producers of the film. The questions to ask here is "Why are the pictures coming from a fan-site?" and "Why didn't the pictures come from Jordan Bayne or her Publicist?"

Secondly, Jordanbayne-online.com (http://www.jordanbayne-online.com/library/FAQ-site.htm?user=j_bayneonline&a=viewfaqs&cat=Site) is a fan website that is maintained by a single person who gets contributions from other fans, Jordanbayne.com's webmistress, Jordan Bayne, and her agents from time to time. In addition, Moviesonline.ca is also a fan website that publishes articles that are submitted by fans. This article and your statement leads me to have a strange feeling that the so called pictures were submitted by a fan of Jordan Bayne and not Bayne herself (or her publicist) and the credibility of the claims by you and others should come into question. Do you care to comment on this?

Dno

[pimpernel]

I did a little research on the web and found a little blurb from Moviesonline.ca (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_3425.html) (a fan website) regarding the Jordan Bayne pictures. The article goes on to say that the webmaster of Jordanbayne-online.com told Moviesonline.ca that Bayne had been contacted about playing the role of Wonder Woman. I would take this stament with a grain of salt for the following reasons:

First of all, this information is comming from the webmaster of Jordanbayne-online.com (an unofficial fan website of Jordan Bayne -- The official website for Jordan Bayne is Jordanbayne.com (http://www.jordanbayne.com/)) and not from Jordan Bayne or her publicist. The article goes on to say that the same webmaster was the one who gave the pictures to the (suposed) producers of the film. The questions to ask here is "Why are the pictures coming from a fan-site?" and "Why didn't the pictures come from Jordan Bayne or her Publicist?"

Secondly, Jordanbayne-online.com (http://www.jordanbayne-online.com/library/FAQ-site.htm?user=j_bayneonline&a=viewfaqs&cat=Site) is a fan website that is maintained by a single person who gets contributions from other fans, Jordanbayne.com's webmistress, Jordan Bayne, and her agents from time to time. In addition, Moviesonline.ca is also a fan website that publishes articles that are submitted by fans. This article and your statement leads me to have a strange feeling that the so called pictures were submitted by a fan of Jordan Bayne and not Bayne herself (or her publicist) and the credibility of the claims by you and others should come into question. Do you care to comment on this?

Dno

Dude... you realise that JBOnline IS the Webmaster of Jordan Bayne Online right?

And i can tell you that i've spoken to Bayne's business manager and she has told me that she has been asked by the producers for pictures... so this isn't some wishful thinking or whatever.

[dnno1]

Dude... you realise that JBOnline IS the Webmaster of Jordan Bayne Online right?

And i can tell you that i've spoken to Bayne's business manager and she has told me that she has been asked by the producers for pictures... so this isn't some wishful thinking or whatever.

Yes, I realize that jbonline is the Webmaster of Jordanbayne-online.com, an unofficial website of Jordan Bayne. I can not corroborate your claim that Bayne's business manager has had any contact with the producers, but I do know for a fact that jbonline has stated on this thread that he was asked to give pictures to the producers.

I'm sorry but I seriously doubt the producers or the ptb at the wb are going to contact you to verify the fact I've been told to give material to them. you have the choice of either believing or not...

...The webmaster of Jordanbayne-online (http://www.jordanbayne-online.com/library/actress-bio.htm) tells us that the saucy beauty - who has expressed interest in playing in the Amazon Princess for quite a while - has now been contacted by the producers of the forthcoming "Wonder Woman" about possibly strapping on the wonder-bra. "I was instructed to send some shots of her to one of the producer's office so I'm thinking she's still being considered", says the site's maintainer. With the way things had been going, I don't think they'd ask for material if they weren't thinking of something, don't you?"...
Why is Joel Silver and Co. asking for pictures from an unofficial source? There has got to be some explaining here and I do not want to hear it coming from you, Pimpernel.

Dno

[pimpernel]

[/indent]There has got to be some explaining here and I do not want to hear it coming from you, Pimpernel.


Ouch dude... i was just trying to help answer some of your questions cos i know JOBOnline most likely won'y be around til sometime later tonight.

I know you don't wanna hear this from me and you want JOBOnline to answer herself... fair enough... but i will offer this one observation anyways... from what i know of Bayne's business manager it seems like she farms out tasks to various people... in the article JBOnline doesn't specifically say Silver asked her to send some pictures... she says she was instructed to send some pictures... i'm pretty sure she was instructed by Bayne's business manager... as to why her business manager didn't send them out herself... dunno... i'm sure JBOnline will answer that for you... i do know however that JBOnline works closely with Bayne's business manager and is considered part of the team... she is more than just a fan operating a fansite.

[dnno1]

Ouch dude... i was just trying to help answer some of your questions cos i know JOBOnline most likely won'y be around til sometime later tonight.

I know you don't wanna hear this from me and you want JOBOnline to answer herself... fair enough... but i will offer this one observation anyways... from what i know of Bayne's business manager it seems like she farms out tasks to various people... in the article JBOnline doesn't specifically say Silver asked her to send some pictures... she says she was instructed to send some pictures... i'm pretty sure she was instructed by Bayne's business manager... as to why her business manager didn't send them out herself... dunno... i'm sure JBOnline will answer that for you... i do know however that JBOnline works closely with Bayne's business manager and is considered part of the team... she is more than just a fan operating a fansite.
Look pimipernel, I would rather read the explanation from jbonline. Right now anything you say in his/her defense would be just like putting words in their mouth.

Another thing I always say and believe is "In cyberspace no one can see you naked." I do not know who you really are, but if you continue to coach and defend them I will have to consider you in on this (potential) hoax as well and will have to punish you by flashing you with another picture of Jennifer Ellison.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/joker.gif

Dno

[pimpernel]

Look pimipernel, I would rather read the explanation from jbonline. Right now anything you say in his/her defense would be just like putting words in their mouth.

Another thing I always say and believe is "In cyberspace no one can see you naked." I do not know who you really are, but if you continue to coach and defend them I will have to consider you in on this (potential) hoax as well and will have to punish you by flashing you with another picture of Jennifer Ellison.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/joker.gif

Dno

I was just trying to be helpful.

[Gratticus]

PIMP GOT OWNED.

Way to put him in his place, Dunno.

[pimpernel]

Y'know what... **** you. I dunno why i even bother when all i get is hassled by retards like you.

[dnno1]

PIMP GOT OWNED.

Way to put him in his place, Dunno.

Look, I can understand if you feel that way, but I was not trying to put pimpernel in his place. I am just a fan of Wonder Woman, the Pricess of Themycira, the Spirit of Truth, and that is what I am trying to find out here. I just want to get the answer straight from the horse's mouth so that I (and others) can rationalize the truth in their own minds here.

Dno

[Aethea]

Well, Pimpernel's avatar rules and owns!

WOW Take a look at these pictures. Tsianina looks awesome in her hard body. Now can anyone honestly tell me that the traditional Wonder Woman costume would NOT work on a body like that? Of course it would!


http://comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=9533&f_ssn=&f_fooble=259

http://comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=9488&f_ssn=&f_fooble=263

Here is my fave: Jordan Bayne:

http://comics2film.com/DCG/DispArt.php3?f_id=10043&f_ssn=&f_fooble=239

[jbonline]

actually, it's not unofficial, thanks :) so... other than being outright antagonistic in your tone, and wrong in your assessment of the status of the web site, what's the question? Because I've already answered the obvious in regards to being asked to send in material.

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo



Yes, I realize that jbonline is the Webmaster of Jordanbayne-online.com, an unofficial website of Jordan Bayne. I can not corroborate your claim that Bayne's business manager has had any contact with the producers, but I do know for a fact that jbonline has stated on this thread that he was asked to give pictures to the producers.




[/indent]Why is Joel Silver and Co. asking for pictures from an unofficial source? There has got to be some explaining here and I do not want to hear it coming from you, Pimpernel.

Dno

[jbonline]

Truth was as easy as private messaging me here on this board so that I would get an email to let me know that someone had a question, clicking on the yahoo icon, msn icon, emailing me via the site or a number of other ways that was not as antagonistic as your post was. For a fan of Wonder Woman, you sure don't mind ignoring more peaceful ways of getting answers.

I'm sorry I was out of town, Pimp and that people were jumping your case, I really am. I thought I was accepting the invitation of joining this board to discuss Wonder Woman and to answer questions presented about Jordan in a mature fashion.

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo


Look, I can understand if you feel that way, but I was not trying to put pimpernel in his place. I am just a fan of Wonder Woman, the Pricess of Themycira, the Spirit of Truth, and that is what I am trying to find out here. I just want to get the answer straight from the horse's mouth so that I (and others) can rationalize the truth in their own minds here.

Dno

[BT18]

Ok, I just want to readdress the fact that I was chastised for refurring to Jordan Bayne as D-list. It is the truth. It isn't an ad hominem attack. The A,B,C,D lists don't have any connotation in regard to an actors acting ability, which for all I know is good but considering I've never even heard of anything she's been a regular on I wouldn't know. It doesn't refer to their physical attributes, and I assure you I consider her to be beautiful. Or any other personal values or flaws. It just is a recognition of the business reality and a person's power in it. Ok, probably more people have heard of her as a result of this Wonder Woman buzz/debate on the internet than had previous to that. She isn't a big enough star to get on the Surreal Life.

I am not against casting a D-lister for this role. I am apposed to being needlessly chastised for that recognition however. And I also point out the fact that the further down the hollywood rung you get, the more likely it is someone who would start a fansite for that person might not be the most credible person in the world.

http://img146.echo.cx/img146/2628/jordanbayneisdlistok7xj.jpg

She's had exactly zero series and movies which even a small fraction of tv/film buffs have heard of and she's had a couple guest appearances on shows sizable people have heard of. Tell me how a D-list qualification is inacurate or was that outrage just the fake disctraction from the issue at hand that it appeared to be.

[jbonline]

there's nothing to distract from except maybe the below standard behavior toward your fellow man/woman. I have never seen anyone treat people the way some have attacked people here.

agree that jordan is perfect for the part or not, but it won't change the fact that I was told to send things in or that we/her people (however you refer to folks) were contacted about her and the role of Wonder Woman. even attacking what you think constitutes a d grading for an actor/actress or attacking me isn't going to change that. but I tell you what, this total negativity toward people is going to change how seriously those in the business take all of you. they (director, producers, agents) won't give anyone the time of day with the attitude I've seen from some here. so whether you agree with jordan being the choice or not, if you want them to 'listen' to you and take your comments seriously toward your choice, I'd advise retracting the claws and shy away from what's been dished out in the past few days.

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

[BT18]

So you're claiming to be "her people" jbonline . You AREN'T an unofficial fansite? Cause I've been told otherwise. Sorry if I place a higher trust in the word of Joss Whedon than you.

[dnno1]

actually, it's not unofficial, thanks :) so... other than being outright antagonistic in your tone, and wrong in your assessment of the status of the web site, what's the question? Because I've already answered the obvious in regards to being asked to send in material.

http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo

I at least want to think that I am the kind of person that rely's on his common sense. When I go to your website and look on the left hand side and see a link that says "Jordan's Official Site (http://www.jordanbayne.com/)" my common sense tells me that your site is not the official one. If your site was an official site, why would you put that link there in the fist place (you could have also placed an explanation there or something at the site)?

On your Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, you claim that you are runing the sight "out of appreciation for Jordan's talent and spirit", but what you claim to have done in giving pictures under the instructions of Jordan Bayne's folks leaves an air of being somehow financially affiliated with them (my common sense would tell me not to do something like that unless I was compensated in some way). If you are on Bayne's payroll or claiming to be affiliated with Jordanbayne.com, why would you say that you are running the website for free? Something is inconsistant here and that means you may not be straightforward with us.

Now, my last words in this post is for all you readers. Threads like this one can be considered potential candidates for viral marketing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing). This means that people like Jordan Bayne could exploit this social environment to further their goals and public awareness. I think that this would be fair if everyone had the opportunity to do this at this thead, but I think is not practical. Therefore it is my opinion that we should be critical and scrutinize any person or party who comes here for those reasons.

Dno

[pimpernel]

So you're claiming to be "her people" jbonline . You AREN'T an unofficial fansite? Cause I've been told otherwise. Sorry if I place a higher trust in the word of Joss Whedon than you.

Told by whom? Your post makes it sound like Joss Whedon himself told you... which i highly doubt.

[The Sage]

Haven't been here in a while, are they still on that bull**** about casting an early 20s actress?

[pimpernel]

Haven't been here in a while, are they still on that bull**** about casting an early 20s actress?

No... but nobody here will believe a word i say... its like talking to the wall.

[FVD]

I got one for you all though she is around 36 years old. She just needs to dye her hair jet black and there you go. She's of average height too.

Dina Meyer.

http://www.dinameyer.com/images/bio/dina_bio.jpg

[pimpernel]

I at least want to think that I am the kind of person that rely's on his common sense. When I go to your website and look on the left hand side and see a link that says "Jordan's Official Site (http://www.jordanbayne.com/)" my common sense tells me that your site is not the official one. If your site was an official site, why would you put that link there in the fist place (you could have also placed an explanation there or something at the site)?

On your Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, you claim that you are runing the sight "out of appreciation for Jordan's talent and spirit", but what you claim to have done in giving pictures under the instructions of Jordan Bayne's folks leaves an air of being somehow financially affiliated with them (my common sense would tell me not to do something like that unless I was compensated in some way). If you are on Bayne's payroll or claiming to be affiliated with Jordanbayne.com, why would you say that you are running the website for free? Something is inconsistant here and that means you may not be straightforward with us.

Now, my last words in this post is for all you readers. Threads like this one can be considered potential candidates for viral marketing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing). This means that people like Jordan Bayne could exploit this social environment to further their goals and public awareness. I think that this would be fair if everyone had the opportunity to do this at this thead, but I think is not practical. Therefore it is my opinion that we should be critical and scrutinize any person or party who comes here for those reasons.

Dno


There are fairly easy ways to settle this you realise? Without calling someone out in a public forum. You could always just PM JBO and ask her to explain all this stuff to you? Or email the official site (office@jordanbayne.com) and ask them?

[BT18]

Told by whom? Your post makes it sound like Joss Whedon himself told you... which i highly doubt.

No, it's really starting to seem like you and "JBonline" want to live in a world where claims by semi-anonymous people over the internet are more trustworthy than the public record. An example of which (the public record) being Aussiello's TV guide interview with Joss Whedon. Nothing I said has any connotation of me being told anything by anyone.

Joss Whedon stated publically a number of things which completely contradict a number of things in the moviesonline.ca article which claims basically the same thing you and JBonline are claiming. This "Fact" which you guys are so keen in proving as a fact by capitalizing the word fact (FACT), that the filmmakers have actively proven interest in Jordan Bayne. The contradictions off the top of my head including a number of Buffy actresses being "in competion" with Bayne despite Joss claiming it wouldn't be anyone from the Buffyverse, pretty much all the actresses being over 26 despite Joss stating he thinks it will be someone in her early 20's, and overall the notion it presents that the filmmakers are actively casting and all these actresses are in "COMPETION" contradicts completely Joss's claim that they are months away from casting.

Before anyone gets confused further because we seem to be very tangent prone based on misunderstandings I was reacting particularly to this quote when I said I put a higher trust in Joss Whedon than JBonline.


I'm not sure who you are but jordan is not a d-list actress and I'm not claiming anything, it's FACT and is still happening. so if you would, don't get rude with either one of us, we haven't done anything to you

to answer the contradictions you've listed, they are not contraditions. joss is known for saying one thing and going in a complete other direction to through people off the trail of what he's really doing. keep that in mind before dismissing what's actually happening compared to what is being said in articles about what he's looking for

That explanation is just empty and desperate, and what he is basically saying is I should put a higher trust in his claims about Joss Whedon's film than Joss Whedon.

And Whedon's statements of course also contradict in 2 out of the 3 ways I above outlined (the buffyverse 1 not applying) the basic claims you and JBonline continue to make.

[Gratticus]

There are fairly easy ways to settle this you realise? Without calling someone out in a public forum. You could always just PM JBO and ask her to explain all this stuff to you? Or email the official site (http://office@jordanbayne.com/) and ask them?

I think you need to take a deep breath, Pimp..., and just caaaaalm down.

[pimpernel]

No, it's really starting to seem like you and "JBonline" want to live in a world where claims by semi-anonymous people over the internet are more trustworthy than the public record. An example of which (the public record) being Aussiello's TV guide interview with Joss Whedon. Nothing I said has any connotation of me being told anything by anyone.

Joss Whedon stated publically a number of things which completely contradict a number of things in the moviesonline.ca article which claims basically the same thing you and JBonline are claiming. This "Fact" which you guys are so keen in proving as a fact by capitalizing the word fact (FACT), that the filmmakers have actively proven interest in Jordan Bayne. The contradictions off the top of my head including a number of Buffy actresses being "in competion" with Bayne despite Joss claiming it wouldn't be anyone from the Buffyverse, pretty much all the actresses being over 26 despite Joss stating he thinks it will be someone in her early 20's, and overall the notion it presents that the filmmakers are actively casting and all these actresses are in "COMPETION" contradicts completely Joss's claim that they are months away from casting.

Before anyone gets confused further because we seem to be very tangent prone based on misunderstandings I was reacting particularly to this quote when I said I put a higher trust in Joss Whedon than JBonline.



That explanation is just empty and desperate, and what he is basically saying is I should put a higher trust in his claims about Joss Whedon's film than Joss Whedon.

I'm not arguing that with you on that tho... all i'm saying is your previous post made it sound like someone had told you JBO had nothing to do with Jordan Bayne... thats all i took issue with.

As for the rest... its all down to personal opinion. I never said you have to believe anything you are told here. You either choose to believe everything Joss tells or you don't. You choose to believe what JBO or other sources tell you or you don't. I couldn't care less. I just post the info and let you decide how to take it.

One thing about Joss Whedon tho... he IS known for misdirection. He famously would make up rumours about upcoming storylines on Buffy and Angel and leak them just as a smokescreen.

[BT18]

There are fairly easy ways to settle this you realise? Without calling someone out in a public forum. You could always just PM JBO and ask her to explain all this stuff to you? Or email the official site (office@jordanbayne.com) and ask them?

what do you mean by "all this stuff".

Lack of specificty is extremely anti-constructive in these conversations. I don't know why all the information wouldn't just be posted by you guys here if it backs up your claims which you say are facts. If they are facts and there has been proof that you'd seen and Dnno and I were challenging you on it repeatedly I'd be frustrated with me too. But contrary to your and JBonline's claims I'm not being difficult, dissagreeable, etc. I'm really looking for instances of me going above and beyond the realm of healthy skepticism and where I have I will apologize and where I feel I'm about to I will prevent myself .

[pimpernel]

I think you need to take a deep breath, Pimp..., and just caaaaalm down.

And i think you need to go check the warning you just got from C.Lee.

[Gratticus]

And i think you need to go check the warning you just got from C.Lee.

What did I do? All I did was give you my heart.

[pimpernel]

what do you mean by "all this stuff".

Lack of specificty is extremely anti-constructive in these conversations. I don't know why all the information wouldn't just be posted by you guys here if it backs up your claims which you say are facts. If they are facts and there has been proof that you'd seen and Dnno and I were challenging you on it repeatedly I'd be frustrated too. But contrary to your and JBonline's claims I'm not being difficult, dissagreeable, etc. I'm really looking for instances of me going above and beyond the realm of healthy skepticism and where I have I will apologize and where I feel I'm about to I will prevent myself .

Firstly... i think you need to back off me a wee bit. I'm not attacking you and i'm not looking for a fight.

I don't know what you want from me here. You asked me to post what i know and i have. If you want it again then here it is...

1) Jordan Bayne's business manager was approached recently (and by recently i mean AFTER the announcement about Joss wanting actresses in their early twenties) by the producers of the movie and asked to send pictures of Jordan. Can i prove this? Beyond telling you that i got the info direct from this person no i can't. I can only tell you what i was told... but anyone with any common sense will tell you that a professional hollywood business manager can not lie about this stuff cos that would put her job on the line.

2) Jordan Bayne's business manager contacted Biel and Basinger to find out if they had been approached for the role and they told her no. Again i can't prove this beyond telling you i got it straight from the woman herself.

3) Right now a certain know Hollywood actress in her thirties is the frontrunner for the role. Jordan Bayne's business manager told me this is the general buzz among casting agents etc right now. Same drill as before... beyond telling you i got it directly from her i can't prove this.

Now i don't know what kind of proof you want me to give. You just don't get proof with stuff like this. If you were working for a site or a newspaper or something and you wanted to check this out you would go straight to Jordan Bayne's business manager... thats what i did. I don't see why her word counts less when i report it than it would if it was reported through AICN or SHH or whatever. It boils down to this... you either take my word for it or you don't. I'm sorry if thats asking too much and i totally understand if you can't do that. Like i said before i just put out there what i know... i'm not hitting you over the head to believe anything it. I just don't get your hostility towards me.

[pimpernel]

what do you mean by "all this stuff".

And what i meant exactly was the relationship between JBOnline and Jordan Bayne and why she isn't an official site yet seems to have official connections etc etc etc.

[BT18]

One thing about Joss Whedon tho... he IS known for misdirection. He famously would make up rumours about upcoming storylines on Buffy and Angel and leak them just as a smokescreen.

Perhaps on storylines from his shows. That's quite another thing from the business of the basics of making a movie. There's really nothing similar he's done to compare this to. Casting a lead for a big budget movie. The timeline of the process of making the movie, etc. But certainly not the storylines in Buffy and Angel.

[GL1]

Interesting... interesting indeed...

[Paradoxium]

PIMP GOT OWNED.

Way to put him in his place, Dunno.
I think you need to take a deep breath, Pimp..., and just caaaaalm down.
What did I do? All I did was give you my heart.

You are either in love with the man or you got something to pick with him. It's fine you have an opinion that conflicts with his, but the last couple of posts seem more like a case of goading him into a reaction. Your not going to convince him or anyone your point of view if you continue with this, so cut it out.

[Steelsheen]

Gratticus and dnno just got ownd by 2 Mods of separate websites :p

if i were you guys i'd shut up right about now ;)


jbonline, i was wondering why not udpate Jordan's IMDB page? just post a picture at least.

[pimpernel]

Perhaps on storylines from his shows. That's quite another thing from the business of the basics of making a movie. There's really nothing similar he's done to compare this to. Casting a lead for a big budget movie. The timeline of the process of making the movie, etc. But certainly not the storylines in Buffy and Angel.

It was more than just the storylines... he would lie about casting and evreything too. Sure its not exactly the same as making a big budget movie but then again this is the first big budget movie he has done where there cast wasn't already all in place. Its logical to assume that he would continue his modus operandi from one project to the next. I'm not saying for sure its misdirection but based on his past record you would be a fool not to at least consider that possibility.

[jbonline]

I've been on the phone with them to get the section updated. It's not from lack of sending in information or pics :)

and to clear up something I've noticed, http://www.jordanbayne-online.com/ is an official site, just not jordan's personal web site, but she does know, approve and even submits to the site herself, as do other production companies, producers and professionals in the business. so... completely missing why someone would think it was unofficial because I've never said it was. anyhoo, off to dinner and if anyone has any serious questions they'd like answered about the movie, jordan or anything related, I have a list of ways to contact me on this board. I will answer ?s soon as possible :)

oh yeah, almost forgot but thought it important to point out. I was wearing my WW costume way before I knew Jordan. I am a fan of both but they are not hand in hand, just in case you thought I was simply here to promote jordan ;)


http://www.jordanbayne.com/wonder-jordan/wwsmilie.gifjbo


Gratticus and dnno just got ownd by 2 Mods of separate websites :p

if i were you guys i'd shut up right about now ;)


jbonline, i was wondering why not udpate Jordan's IMDB page? just post a picture at least.

[Gratticus]

where can we get pics of u in the suit? Your a girl right???

[Lucid]

http://comics2film.com/DCG/art/Art9533.gif


She looks like a pretty decent Wonder Woman, don't you think?

She's the only actor that I would seriously consider for the part right now. I don't think anyone else has the right combination of qualities--everyone else has a flaw, but Joelson has it all, the physicality being the most important. I don't, however, think she's the perfect Wonder Woman. I'd love to see more candidates.

[FVD]

I had reservations about Joelsen being a candidate for WW. I was wrong. But she still ain't my first choice. Bayne on the other hand has the look hands down. But I won't be sold until I see what her acting skills are like.

How old is she and how tall is she btw (Bayne)?

:down: And for those who chose Sarah Michelle Gellar on the poll ought to be shot. She's a terrible actress. Definitely not WW material. :down:

FVD.

[angelus777]

Has anyone here thought of kate beckinsale as WW, I think shes the only one besides Angerlina Jolie or maybe Biel that can play the part and look it???

[CConn]

Has anyone here thought of kate beckinsale as WW, I think shes the only one besides Angerlina Jolie or maybe Biel that can play the part and look it???1). Too old.

2). Have you ever seen Jennifer Connelly? :o

[portland2002]

1). Too old.

2). Have you ever seen Jennifer Connelly? :o

Kate Beckingsale is 32 years old.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000295/

On the other hand, Jennifer Connelly is 35 years old.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000124/

I think both would be great in the role of WW.

Moreover, I'd be happy to see Catherine Zeta Joens, Jennifer Connelly, Kate Beckingsale, Monica Belluci, Carrie-Anne Moss, Tsianina Joelson or Jordan Bayne cast as Wonder Woman.

[Super_Ludacris]

I think Connelly is too old and Bellucci has a shot but she's starting to age.

[pimpernel]

Connelly is younger than Bellucci.

And why does everyone ignore the actual ebidence? I keep posting pics from last year where Connelly looks around 25 and STILL everyone comes out with the crappy too old argument. :rolleyes:

[BT18]

It's impossible to argue how someone "looks" Pimp. I don't think Conelly looks around 25. I know how she looked at 25 and it was signifigantly younger looking than she does now. Whether it's the weight changes or pregnancy + birth I see a change. But that is my claim of what I see and you have your claim of what you see. Age does show in women before it does in men however. I'll just add that even if it doesn't effect this topic of conversation directly.

[Gratticus]

Joelson looks really good:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/erin_brockovich/tsianina_joelson/erinpre2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/bring_it_on/tsianina_joelson/bringitpre2.jpg

She looks alot like Belucci.

http://www.variaamazonwarrior.homestead.com/files/VARIA_SITE_PIC_1.jpg
Looks good as an amazon.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/7/8/65-3916.jpg
Great smile and eyes.

http://www.aditl.com/pupstuff/pasaxena01/tsianina/tsianina8-28.jpg
Perfect physique. Well toned, but not masculine.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/7/8/65-15774-sm.jpg

She's around 29-30 I think. But she looks young enough, she played a highschooler in bring it on, and was in american pie.

If she has the acting chops, this would be the perfect choice, IMO.

[Gratticus]

Connelly is younger than Bellucci.

And why does everyone ignore the actual ebidence? I keep posting pics from last year where Connelly looks around 25 and STILL everyone comes out with the crappy too old argument. :rolleyes:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/74th_academy_awards_arrivals_photos/jennifer_connelly/oscars4.jpg

Ugh... girl needs some food.

[SolidRoar]

Joelson looks really good:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/erin_brockovich/tsianina_joelson/erinpre2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/bring_it_on/tsianina_joelson/bringitpre2.jpg

She looks alot like Belucci.

http://www.variaamazonwarrior.homestead.com/files/VARIA_SITE_PIC_1.jpg
Looks good as an amazon.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/7/8/65-3916.jpg
Great smile and eyes.

http://www.aditl.com/pupstuff/pasaxena01/tsianina/tsianina8-28.jpg
Perfect physique. Well toned, but not masculine.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/7/8/65-15774-sm.jpg

She's around 29-30 I think. But she looks young enough, she played a highschooler in bring it on, and was in american pie.

If she has the acting chops, this would be the perfect choice, IMO.
I agree that she'd make a great WW. Not to mention that she's an unknown - which I think is the way to go. All she needs is a role that can prove her talents - frankly, I don't think she'd been given one.

[pimpernel]

It's impossible to argue how someone "looks" Pimp. I don't think Conelly looks around 25. I know how she looked at 25 and it was signifigantly younger looking than she does now. Whether it's the weight changes or pregnancy + birth I see a change. But that is my claim of what I see and you have your claim of what you see. Age does show in women before it does in men however. I'll just add that even if it doesn't effect this topic of conversation directly.

No its not. I'm not saying she looks like SHE used to look at 25... what i'm saying is that this woman...

http://tinypic.com/4g2f5c

...looks no older than 25. And even if you wanna argue over exactly what age she does look you would be just plain dumb to say she looks too old in that pic.

[pimpernel]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/74th_academy_awards_arrivals_photos/jennifer_connelly/oscars4.jpg

Ugh... girl needs some food.

Her more recently...

http://tinypic.com/4g2glt

...looks like she had some burgers.

[pimpernel]

If you guys wanna stick so close with the age argument... this girl...

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/bring_it_on/tsianina_joelson/bringitpre2.jpg

...already looks older than Connelly. Look at the lines on her face.

And as to why she hasn't had any decent roles yet: maybe she just isn't that good an actress? Seriously i've seen this girl act and unless she has some very deeply hidden stores of talent somewhere then i gotta say she is pretty crap.

[Gratticus]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/wimbledon/jennifer_connelly/wimprec.jpgugh looks like my grandma

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_matrix__reloaded/monica_bellucci/matrixpre23.jpg
ugh even worse

[Lucid]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/bring_it_on/tsianina_joelson/bringitpre2.jpg

...already looks older than Connelly. Look at the lines on her face.
LOL. you mean from her smiling

[pimpernel]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/wimbledon/jennifer_connelly/wimprec.jpgugh looks like my grandma

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_matrix__reloaded/monica_bellucci/matrixpre23.jpg
ugh even worse

Can i have your grandma's phone number?

[pimpernel]

LOL. you mean from her smiling

She has way more smile lines than an average girl her age.

[dnno1]

I would not use the physique thing a a limiter. There is a lot of time before this film goes into production (remember it is slated to be released in 2007). Whomever gets the part should have adequate time to do some weight training and build on some muscle tone (if it is required). Remember the late Christopher Reeve had scrawny build when he got the role for "Superman the Movie". I remember reading a magazine article (I think it was Time) back then that said he did some weight training to tone up for the part. There is currently an article at 1starshearch.com (http://underwent%20a%20strict%20bodybuilding%20program%20 supervised%20by%20David%20Prowse,%20who%20played%2 0Darth%20Vader%20in%20the%20original%20series%20of %20Star%20Wars%20films.) that states, in Reeve's bio, that he underwent a strict bodybuilding program supervised by David Prowse, who played Darth Vader in the original series of Star Wars films, to gain muscle for the role.

http://www.zerou.com.br/imgs/destaques/christopher2.jpg
Cristopher Reeve

I think what should matter (physically) here is height, age, and facial appearance. We certainly don't think that a 60 year old would be appropriate for the part (unless the script has a scene where she is aged by some death ray or something). I know that a lot of the actresses that we have been suggesting here have been about 5'8"-5'9", but we should challenge ourselves to find someone closer to 5'11" and between 20 and 24 years of age to fill the role. It was done before and it certainly can be done again.

Dno

[pimpernel]

We already did that and the best we could come up with was Brewster and a couple of models... barrel scraping. If there is a suitable actress in that age range then she hasn't been found yet and she will only be found by someone in the business... someone with access to casting agents' files and stuff like that.

As for te age thing... again i think its dumb. Reeve and Carter were exceptions to the rule... i think honestly we need someone at least around the 27 mark.

[Steelsheen]

I think what should matter (physically) here is height, age, and facial appearance. We certainly don't think that a 60 year old would be appropriate for the part (unless the script has a scene where she is aged by some death ray or something). I know that a lot of the actresses that we have been suggesting here have been about 5'8"-5'9", but we should challenge ourselves to find someone closer to 5'11" and between 20 and 24 years of age to fill the role. It was done before and it certainly can be done again.

that's what we've been doing, but its hard to find someone who fits all the physical demands and yet is not a meathead.

more than likely we will end up with an unknown with the right height, age and looks, but the risk to that will be talent.

[portland2002]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/wimbledon/jennifer_connelly/wimprec.jpgugh looks like my grandma

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_matrix__reloaded/monica_bellucci/matrixpre23.jpg
ugh even worse

I think Jennifer Connelly and Monica Bellucci look very young and they're quite gorgeous. Jennifer looks no older than 25 and Monica no older than 30. Either would be great as WW along with Tsianina Joelson, Carrie-Anne Moss, Kate Beckingsale or Jordan Bayne.

[portland2002]

Joelson looks really good:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/erin_brockovich/tsianina_joelson/erinpre2.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/bring_it_on/tsianina_joelson/bringitpre2.jpg

She looks alot like Belucci.

http://www.variaamazonwarrior.homestead.com/files/VARIA_SITE_PIC_1.jpg
Looks good as an amazon.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/7/8/65-3916.jpg
Great smile and eyes.

http://www.aditl.com/pupstuff/pasaxena01/tsianina/tsianina8-28.jpg
Perfect physique. Well toned, but not masculine.

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/7/8/65-15774-sm.jpg

She's around 29-30 I think. But she looks young enough, she played a highschooler in bring it on, and was in american pie.

If she has the acting chops, this would be the perfect choice, IMO.

I agree. She's beautiful and would be wonderful ;) in the titular role as Diana Prince/Wonder Woman.

[pimpernel]

I think Jennifer Connelly and Monica Bellucci look very young and they're quite gorgeous. Jennifer looks no older than 25 and Monica no older than 30. Either would be great as WW along with Tsianina Joelson, Carrie-Anne Moss, Kate Beckingsale or Jordan Bayne.

Exactly... you can find bad pics of anybody but that doesn't mean they actually look awful.

[GL1]

That's this years... in five years, it will take more and more time for those actresses to retain their eternal youth, that production and marketing hard work that Tsianina, Jodran, Jordana and the like don't carry with them...

There's a reason those bad pictures are bad, because it takes MORE work to make Belluci look young and "appealing" than it does to make, say, Jordan Bayne...

[rdh007]

There's a reason those bad pictures are bad, because it takes MORE work to make Belluci look young and "appealing" than it does to make, say, Jordan Bayne...

Young, yes. Appealing? Bellucci is appealing in almost any picture. (I'm sure someone will find one that makes her look borderline)

[Dark Knight]

I agree. She's beautiful and would be wonderful ;) in the titular role as Diana Prince/Wonder Woman.

nasty looking face IMO......ack,,,,!

[Dark Knight]

If you guys wanna stick so close with the age argument... this girl...

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/bring_it_on/tsianina_joelson/bringitpre2.jpg

...already looks older than Connelly. Look at the lines on her face.

And as to why she hasn't had any decent roles yet: maybe she just isn't that good an actress? Seriously i've seen this girl act and unless she has some very deeply hidden stores of talent somewhere then i gotta say she is pretty crap.


exactly! Connelly would run circles (acting and looks wise) around this nasty face lookin unknown....who some of you think is so "special". she fugly.....

[Lobo]

I'm sticking with my choice of Jessica Biel. She's in shape enough and would fill out the costume nicely plus she's 22

http://www.jessicabiel.com/admin/images/image.php?W=630&ID=117

http://www.jessicabiel.com/admin/images/image.php?W=630&ID=122

[JonO]

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7118

A good case for Bellucci as WW... hilarious too.

[pimpernel]

Thank you sweet jesus for that last pic. :p

[pimpernel]

http://www.jessicabiel.com/admin/images/image.php?W=630&ID=117


Dude... niiice... she sure has got a good bod on her. I wish her face was more Wonder Womanly tho... and her acting can be iffy at times... still... she is the best of the under 25s. :p

[Steelsheen]

hmm i dunno, there is something about Biel that strikes me to be Sandra Bullock-like. and God knows i lover Sandra to bits, but just not as WW.

yeah i guess its the face. she's seems more plain Jane to me.

[Kroc1138]

Can i have your grandma's phone number?Ya know? :D :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Dude... niiice... she sure has got a good bod on her. I wish her face was more Wonder Womanly tho... and her acting can be iffy at times... still... she is the best of the under 25s. :p

I agree if they go young then Biel is the best of the choices IMO

[Aethea]

Jessica Biel does not possess that superherho beauty, just the body.

[The Sage]

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7118

A good case for Bellucci as WW... hilarious too.

A great read...in more ways than one. *cough*

[Steelsheen]

LOL! i knew you couldnt pass that one up Sage ;)

wish somone can do something like that for Connelly. she deserves just as much if not more.

[Lobo]

Jessica Biel does not possess that superherho beauty, just the body.


Well to each his/her own. Personally I find her more attractive than many other candidates mentioned.

[Aethea]

Remember Wonder Woman's beauty must be legendary--almost mythical. Linda sure had the most beautiful face at that time. Even in comics, when she walks into a room, every one is just flabbergasted and her beauty overshadows every woman's. I would not look at Biel twice if she walked into a room filled with beauties. She'd just get lost in a crowd of other pretty average faces.

I don't know how Whedon will pick his lady to blow us all out of Poseidon's water.

[terry78]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....there's always gonna be a group that says Whedon's pick is butt ugly for some reason.

[Steelsheen]

true, but in that case he must choose one where most people find her beautiful enough to play WW.

[Slipping_Halo]

LOL! i knew you couldnt pass that one up Sage ;)

wish somone can do something like that for Connelly. she deserves just as much if not more.

i hope NOBODY does something like that for Connelly unless they make it seem more credible. that whole thing on bellucci sounded like some dude with a boner who just wanted some fantasy realised. if someone were to do that for Jennifer Connelly, it would cheapen her and make it seem like it's just something we want to pull our pud to (which we do, but we also know she'd be fantastic in it for OTHER reasons, which is what we should stress)

i know the guy mentioned her acting ability and all that, but it still seems like he's just obsessed with her and wants to see her in that suit (as do i, but still). For Connelly, i would want someone to actually give it 200% in showing every single argument why she would not only be stunning, but also THE choice for the role.

[portland2002]

I'm sticking with my choice of Jessica Biel. She's in shape enough and would fill out the costume nicely plus she's 22

http://www.jessicabiel.com/admin/images/image.php?W=630&ID=117

http://www.jessicabiel.com/admin/images/image.php?W=630&ID=122

Jessica Biel is beautiful and looks gorgeous with her sculpted arms. I like Jessica Biel a lot, but I'd much prefer to see Connelly, Bellucci, Bayne, CZJ, Joelson or Moss snag the role.

[Steelsheen]

toning up the bod isnt too difficult, not with today's trainers and nutritionists. so i guess if they have to pick an actress they would put more value on the face and the talent, since face is a little bit more difficult to augment (cant do anything about facial structures) and talent is something innate and cant be made up.

as i've said before, Biel is ok as a kick-butt actress, but she's simply not WW material.

[The Storm]

I say Tsianina Joelson. However Monica Belluci looks the part as well.

[dnno1]

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1179729816
Angie Harmon

Another actress that people have failed to mention is Angie Harmon. She is about 5'10" and (at least I think) is beautiful. Some of you may have caught her in films like "Good Advice" (with Charlie Sheen) and, more recently, "The Deal" and she was also the voice of commisioner Barbra Gordon in "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker". She is more commonly known for her role as assistant district attorney Abbie Carmichael in the TV Series "Law and Order". I thought she was very sexy as Ronica Miles in the movie "Agent Cody Banks (http://imdb.com/name/nm0004990/photogallery-ss-0)". Unfortunately she is 32 years old and misses the Whedon age requirement although she meets the acting and looks categories.


Dno

[BT18]

http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1179729816
Angie Harmon
Dno

She's also a Bushista. Booooooo

[dnno1]

She's also a Bushista. Booooooo

I did not know that political alignment was a factor here.

[portland2002]

one of the above but there are a few good choises up there.
The actress to portrait WW has to be tall (she is a goddess), very attractive (she is a goddess) and someone that can kick anyones butt (she is a god...you get the picture) and has to be in great shape.
I have an actress that i would love to see in that suit...
She´s a great actress (she won an oscar), very pretty and very .....sexy.
She´s blond but you can work on that...
She´s in a moment of her´s carrer that she can´t refuse that part and i don´t know why everyone forgets that she exist...and i´m not talking of WW only
WW is MIRA SORVINO
Think about it...

http://us.imdb.com/EGallery?source=granitz&group=1461&photo=MiraSorvin_Grani_498512_400.jpg&path=pgallery&path_key=Sorvino,+Mira

Just take the hair dye out and dye her brown hair black. :up: It could work.

[Lucid]

Just take the hair dye out and dye her brown hair black. :up: It could work.http://scd.mm-b.yimg.com/image/1179729816
Angie Harmon
No and no.

[dnno1]

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/34/82/98m.jpg
Amanda Tosch

http://www.cinemovies.fr/images/data/news/Gactu1753830364.jpg
Wonder Woman by Alex Ross

A few more tidbits on our mistery woman. She was in a movie made for TV titled "Bet Your Life", an action film staring actor Billy Zane. Guess who one of the exective producers was?

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/78/85/12m.jpg
Joel Silver

None other than Joel Silver. I am sure it is good to know somebody (or that somebody knows you) in this business.

Dno

[Lucid]

It's been slow around here, lately. What's going on with Whedon right now? Is he writing the script? So it'll be a while before any casting?

I rented an episode of Xena Season 6 just to see Tsianina Joelson (pretty dorky, I know, but at least I don't regularly watch the show) and I came to this conclusion:

Her best attribute is her body. It's the perfect Wonder Woman body, the perfect combination of muscle and femininity. You don't know whether to fight her or-- well, another word that starts with 'F.' But her body isn't just a simply prop. She has actual fighting ability! I was blown away by her fighting because she doesn't fight like a woman (I'm sorry if that sounds sexist, but most women (and some dorky guys) don't look as though they posses full control over their muscles when they fight--there's always a sloppiness, a weakness to their fighting. But Tsianina looks amazing. It's a thing of beauty to watch her fight. She looks like a guy, she looks strong, totally in control of her body. And that's rare. You almost never see a woman who has that kind of coordination and control over her body. It's highly unlikely that we'll find another WW candidate who has that. So I think that's what she brings to the table that no one else can.

Her worst attribute is her face. Don't get me wrong, she has a nice face, but we're casting Wonder Woman here and it's pretty strict. Her face looks better in some shots and worse in others and she's awfully close to looking like Wonder Woman, but I just don't see the flawlessness that I think is required. It's like casting Superman. His face needs to be perfect, like a comic drawing, every curve, every line in place, and the same is true for Wonder Woman. So my conclusion here is, although she probably couldn't come any closer to looking like Wonder Woman without looking like Wonder Woman, in the end, there's definitely someone better out there. But, her physicality is so overwhelming that I still wouldn't count her out.

Now we come to the controversial subject of her acting. I'm actually a film director, so I feel pretty confident in saying that, yes, her acting is atrocious. And, trust me, you don't have to be a film director to figure that out. It basically sounds like she's reading. But it's not that simple. There are a number of factors here, the foremost one being that she's on a TV show that isn't made for acting or story. It's made for watching attractive women in loin cloths fight with each other. It's like a porno, the director's approach is probably, "just say the lines so we can get to the action." So, I'd say this is inconclusive.

The question now becomes: can her acting improve in the hands of a real director? I've never seen Whedon's work, so I don't know what kind of director he is, but the fact that his background is mostly in television isn't good. I'd say that, in the hands of a director like Christopher Nolan, she could be manipulated into a decent performance, but I don't have the same amount of confidence in Whedon. But, again, I've never seen his work, so I really wouldn't know. So my conclusion here is, her acting is bad on Xena, but we really don't know what she's capable of.

So when I add all of this up, my final conclusion is, although her physicality is something that no one else can match, I'd prefer someone who looks the part more and has more acting ability. Sorry for such a long post.

[The Storm]

Has she been cast?

[dnno1]

Has she been cast?

I don't think he (Lucid (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5517271#post5517271)) said that. I think he is judging her (Joelson) based on her performance in "Xena" and presuming that she could do better (if casted) with a good director.

Dno

[pimpernel]

She is crap.

[dnno1]

I've never seen Whedon's work, so I don't know what kind of director he is, but the fact that his background is mostly in television isn't good.

I think the only movies (major motion pictures) that he is actually credited for writing is "Alien Resurection" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" so you might want to rent those if you want to get an Idea of his writing talent (for films). I do not have any idea how much influence the producers will have on the film, but Joel Silver and Leonard Goldberg are both known for producing pretty good action major motion picture/TV films featuring women heroines ("The Matrix", and the "Charlies Angels" films to name a few).

Dno

[dnno1]

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_14466240/Amanda+and+Garry.jpg?bcWCcdCB4hDkioh0 (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=songs+about+rain/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=13pemq98t/EXP=1114091402/*-http%3A//media.theonenetwork.com/yahoo_asx.asp?type=music&speed=56&videoid=u_e_garyallan_songsaboutrain)
Amanda Tosch with Gary Allan in "Songs About Rain"
(click to see video)

I just found a music video that she was in called "Songs About Rain" by Gary Allan. If you like (or can at least stand) country music you can check her out here (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=songs+about+rain/v=2/SID=e/l=VDP/SIG=13pemq98t/EXP=1114091402/*-http%3A//media.theonenetwork.com/yahoo_asx.asp?type=music&speed=56&videoid=u_e_garyallan_songsaboutrain).

[pimpernel]

I think the only movies (major motion pictures) that he is actually credited for writing is "Alien Resurection" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" so you might want to rent those if you want to get an Idea of his writing talent (for films). I do not have any idea how much influence the producers will have on the film, but Joel Silver and Leonard Goldberg are both known for producing pretty good action major motion picture/TV films featuring women heroines ("The Matrix", and the "Charlies Angels" films to name a few).

Dno

Theres no point renting those tho... all his film stuff has been hacked to pieces and rewritten so much that its impossible to get a feel for what it was supposed to be like.

[dnno1]

Theres no point renting those tho... all his film stuff has been hacked to pieces and rewritten so much that its impossible to get a feel for what it was supposed to be like.

Don't be silly. If that is the case, then he wouldn't get full credit for those films. Who is to say that his script won't be hacked up for this film (WW) then? I don't think you should be telling people not to rent films because they are hacked up. Let them look at it and be the judge of it for themselves. I could see Whedon's style in "Alien Resurrection" with the band of renegade smugglers who infiltrated the Auriga (kind of X-men'ish).

Dno

[pimpernel]

Don't be silly. If that is the case, then he wouldn't get full credit for those films. Who is to say that his script won't be hacked up for this film (WW) then? I don't think you should be telling people not to rent films because they are hacked up. Let them look at it and be the judge of it for themselves. I could see Whedon's style in "Alien Resurrection" with the band of renegade smugglers who infiltrated the Auriga (kind of X-men'ish).

Dno

I'm not saying don't rent them cos they were hacked... i'm saying don't rent them expecting to get any kind of idea of what Whedon is capable of.

I'm not being silly but i think you are being a wee bit naive. The man has said himself that both Buffy the movie and Alien 4 were hacked beyond all recognition of what he originally wrote. Who knows how credits work? All i know is he hasn't had a script produced yet that wasn't hacked to pieces and totally altered.

As for Wonder Woman... i would assume that him being also the director will prevent his script from being hacked.

[dnno1]

I'm not saying don't rent them cos they were hacked... i'm saying don't rent them expecting to get any kind of idea of what Whedon is capable of.

That sounds a little different (and a little better). I can not say that I am a fan of Whedon at all, but he has been nominated for various awards (Emmy, Bram Stoker, Science Fiction Fantacy, et. al.) for his work on episodes of the TV series "Buffy" and has shared some nominations for his co-writing of the film "Toy Story".

But back to the real point (and I am addressing this question to Lucid). Since you claim to be a director, what is your opinion on the WW film and the way it is being set up? With the track record that recent superheroine films (like Catwoman and Electra) have, do you think that the team (i.e. producers and director) that the WB has put together will make for a winning formula? Also, what is your reasoning for saying no to Angie Harmon?

Dno

[black manta]

Simply put: Wonder Woman is capable of going toe-to-toe with Superman. She's not just "athletic" or "in good shape". She's an AMAZON.

Look at it this way: Catherine Zeta-Jones would look OK as WW, but her VOICE is just so- *****y sounding. I don't know how to explain it. She's also too slender.

Lucy Lawless has a very sexy, bassy tone to her voice. She's got muscles, she's BEAUTIFUL, she's used to wearing a similar costume, and she wouldn't need a dye-job or a silly wig.

-ZeroCorpse

actually, i couldn't agree more. zeta-jones is beautiful and has the best ww face if you want someone pretty. but lawless is exactly what we need. too bad she wouldn't do it for all the whisky in ireland. she would be perfect. but she'd never want that role after doing xena.

we need someone new who has that ww body and face down to a T. if joss wants to go with a post-teen waifi got news for him, supermodels aren't superheros. no one wants a frail anorexic wonder woman. how stupid would it look to see a kate-moss type girl lifting a freight train? :hyper:

[pimpernel]

Wonder Woman is the most beautiful woman in the world... Lucy Lawless... while she can be hot sometimes from the right angle... just doesn't fit that bill even slightly. She looks too masculine.

[black manta]

all i'm saying is that lucy's body type was perfect. and alex ross (among many others) didn't exactly make her as perfectly beautiful as say... catherine zeta-jones. i know, she's not right for it... maybe neither of them are, but somewhere there is a girl with an amazon GODDESS body, and a beautiful but confident face. a supermodel-type just won't fit the bill any better than jennifer gardner playing elektra.

and to my buddy in the conn. ... NO J.LO!!! might as well get rosie perez! :hyper:

[GL1]

Hahah... this is hilarious:

Body of a Goddess?

Facial Beauty of a Goddess?

"Looks like Wonder Woman"????

Wants to be Wonder Woman?

Closer to 5'11???

A good, no, GREAT actress?

The right voice?

Not flat-chested?

And then age on top of that...

Is anybody writing this down? Cuz they're going to have a hard-as-heck time finding this 'perfect woman,' I mean... is she going to cook us dinner and give us foot massages as well? That's how this Casting thread can break 3,000 pages, you're looking for someone who simply MAY NOT EXIST, cuz you can bet your booty that Lynda Carter was no dead ringer for comics Wondy and was a piddly 5'9... heh...

Oh, and you guys are crazy if you think Monica Belluci looks 30. No sane guess-your-age guy would guess that age unless he were trying to give her a compliment (or set up the next woman, but you get my point.).

And at least post a half-decent pic of Jessica Biel and not her when she's at the gym, sheesh...
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1295/JessicaBiel_DeGuire_315600_400.jpg

[Lobo]

That pic of Biel was to show that she's toned, I've already posted a great Biel/WW manip that Wobbly did for me a while back.

[pimpernel]

Hahah... this is hilarious:

Body of a Goddess?

Facial Beauty of a Goddess?

"Looks like Wonder Woman"????

Wants to be Wonder Woman?

Closer to 5'11???

A good, no, GREAT actress?

The right voice?

Not flat-chested?

And then age on top of that...

Is anybody writing this down? Cuz they're going to have a hard-as-heck time finding this 'perfect woman,' I mean... is she going to cook us dinner and give us foot massages as well? That's how this Casting thread can break 3,000 pages, you're looking for someone who simply MAY NOT EXIST, cuz you can bet your booty that Lynda Carter was no dead ringer for comics Wondy and was a piddly 5'9... heh...

Oh, and you guys are crazy if you think Monica Belluci looks 30. No sane guess-your-age guy would guess that age unless he were trying to give her a compliment (or set up the next woman, but you get my point.).

And at least post a half-decent pic of Jessica Biel and not her when she's at the gym, sheesh...
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/1295/JessicaBiel_DeGuire_315600_400.jpg

Got any decent suggestions of your own then instead of just pissing on everyone else? Wasn't it you that said Mischa Barton would be good?

[bosef982]

This board runs the stretch of a porno thread, a chauvinist's thread, a geek thread, and God know's what else. I mean, I'm all about the Wonder Woman more then the next guy, but come on...Grandma, no Grandma...you people are getting a bit ridiculous in your search for her -- unless, BY GOLLY, does Princess Diana actually exist!!!! I'm more interested in her acting over all else -- Wonder Woman has the potential to be an incredibly corny and cheesy (may be the same thing) charcter with a ridiculous pagan and far-fetched plot that contemporary right-wing America will find highly fantastical. We need a good actress. Period. All else is secondary. People said this about Ian McKellan when he was cast as Magneto -- he's not strong, big, bulking, intimidating. Now, can you imagine anyone else? For some reason, good actors/actresses become the character and make them their own! Good actress -- all else flows from this. Anyone can be toned, hair-died, whatever.

[BK]

People said this about Ian McKellan when he was cast as Magneto -- he's not strong, big, bulking, intimidating. Now, can you imagine anyone else?
Actually, yes...yes I can. :o :D

[dnno1]

This board runs the stretch of a porno thread, a chauvinist's thread, a geek thread, and God know's what else. I mean, I'm all about the Wonder Woman more then the next guy, but come on...Grandma, no Grandma...you people are getting a bit ridiculous in your search for her -- unless, BY GOLLY, does Princess Diana actually exist!!!! I'm more interested in her acting over all else -- Wonder Woman has the potential to be an incredibly corny and cheesy (may be the same thing) charcter with a ridiculous pagan and far-fetched plot that contemporary right-wing America will find highly fantastical. We need a good actress. Period. All else is secondary. People said this about Ian McKellan when he was cast as Magneto -- he's not strong, big, bulking, intimidating. Now, can you imagine anyone else? For some reason, good actors/actresses become the character and make them their own! Good actress -- all else flows from this. Anyone can be toned, hair-died, whatever.

To say that this is a porno thread is a stretch. We do welcome women here to post and they have, so I would not quite call this thread chauvinist either, and I don't think we appreciate being called geeks as well.

Bosef, you have to realize that the majority of Wonder Woman fans are surprizingly male. This has been stated in a Washinton Post interview (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29691-2001Apr17?language=printer) with Phil Jiminez and has been true for the past 60 years or so. This same demographic will most likely drive the market for this movie (though you would like to capture the feminine market which makes up the majority of movie-goers at 59%). If you want to make some money on this film, you're probably going to see a very good looking, fairly tall woman who is true to the comic book in the role. She most likely will be the desire of most men and the envy and role model to women and girls alike.

In addition there are several factors (determinants if you will) that govern the success of a film. These determinants vary from a good story/script to the type of genre and even the type of acting/casting for the film. It is not just good acting alone. A good number of people went to see the film "8 mile" primarily because Emenem was in the film and not necessisarily because he could act. On the flip side, Universal spent a fortune on "Waterworld" with Oscar award winning actor Kevin Costner and that was a flop. "Electra" had Emmy and Golden Globe nominee, Jenifer Garner in it and that was not a movie to write home about either. This was because both films had bad scripting that made the films boring in spite of the casting.

If Wonder Woman is going to be a success there should be a focus on market research and good scripting. Based upon the quality of the script, the director should fill out his cast accordingly so that you fill the most seats in the theater possible. If the script is good enough you could almost place anybody in the role and have a good film. Oh yea, and leave Grandma out of this!

Dno

[Lucid]

That pic of Biel was to show that she's toned, I've already posted a great Biel/WW manip that Wobbly did for me a while back.
Can you post that again?

[pimpernel]

This board runs the stretch of a porno thread, a chauvinist's thread, a geek thread, and God know's what else. I mean, I'm all about the Wonder Woman more then the next guy, but come on...Grandma, no Grandma...you people are getting a bit ridiculous in your search for her -- unless, BY GOLLY, does Princess Diana actually exist!!!! I'm more interested in her acting over all else -- Wonder Woman has the potential to be an incredibly corny and cheesy (may be the same thing) charcter with a ridiculous pagan and far-fetched plot that contemporary right-wing America will find highly fantastical. We need a good actress. Period. All else is secondary. People said this about Ian McKellan when he was cast as Magneto -- he's not strong, big, bulking, intimidating. Now, can you imagine anyone else? For some reason, good actors/actresses become the character and make them their own! Good actress -- all else flows from this. Anyone can be toned, hair-died, whatever.

This thread does occassionally dip into porn and chauvenism... but i think you will find mostly that stuff is from non-regulars passing through.

You have to realise something... this is an icon we are talking about. Its not Magneto where nobody outside of the comic community has ever heard of him so you have a lot of wiggle room with how you present him on screen. Wonder Woman is MUCH bigger than that... everyone knows how she should look so you have to get the casting right or people will notice. Its the same as casting Superman.

Hahah... this is hilarious:

Body of a Goddess?

Facial Beauty of a Goddess?

"Looks like Wonder Woman"????

Closer to 5'11???

A good, no, GREAT actress?

The right voice?

Not flat-chested?

Is anybody writing this down? Cuz they're going to have a hard-as-heck time finding this 'perfect woman.'

Make fun all you like but you are missing one vital point: that IS the character. She is the most beautiful woman in the world... she is curvy and has tits... she is a kick-ass Amazon and is toned... she has a regal presence... she is elegant... those are the physical aspects of the character... physically that IS the character... if you are gonna ignore the character when casting then why bother to even call the movie Wonder Woman?

Nobody said it would be easy but if thats what is needed for the character then thats what you have to try to find. Look at it this way... Superman had all the same casting problems and they managed to find someone in a relatively short period of time that was perfect for the role.

I've said it before and i'll say it again... instead of coming in here and making fun of everyone that is serious about this movie why not grow a set and suggest some decent candidates yourself?

[Steelsheen]

Actually, yes...yes I can. :o :D
i do too :(

McKellen is a great actor, and he did a really good job as Magneto, but i still think someone else was better suited for the part.

[HBKfan28]

Who would make a good Wonder Woman? I think Eva Longoria, Eliza Dushku, or maybe sarah michelle gellar

[portland2002]

Who would make a good Wonder Woman? I think Eva Longoria, Eliza Dushku, or maybe sarah michelle gellar

I could see Eliza Dusku as WW.

[HBKfan28]

who do you think?

[pimpernel]

Those are all crap beyond belief and this thread is spam.

[pimpernel]

This is also spam.

[Hogan]

Yeah, haven't they already merged or closed upwards of three dozen of these threads?

[CConn]

No one on that list.

Though I'd hit Dushku with the quickness. :o

[HBKfan28]

whys it spam?

[HBKfan28]

Why?

[Hogan]

Because you're posting multiple threads on a topic that already has multiple threads devoted to it.

[HBKfan28]

oh, well i only posted the other one because i forgot to put a poll on

[HBKfan28]

I like Eva Longoria, maybe eliza dushku

[regwec]

Eliza

[Aethea]

Jordan Bayne!

[Aethea]

These choices are CRAP CRAp CRAP! This poll suks!

[CConn]

whys it spam?Because there's already like 3 threads asking this same question.

[pimpernel]

Exactly. If you wanted to push certain actresses you should have just stuck their names in the existing thread.

[MJB]

Who would make a good Wonder Woman? I think Eva Longoria, Eliza Dushku, or maybe sarah michelle gellar


Goog Lord none. Longoria is way to short. she's like 5'2

[AcidicMaryJane]

Goog Lord none. Longoria is way to short. she's like 5'2

I agree.

BTW, will we soon be getting a Wonder Woman board? I don't see one as of yet or have I just missed it?

[pimpernel]

It was due about two weeks ago.

[AcidicMaryJane]

It was due about two weeks ago.

Thanks. I'll keep an eye out. :)

[BT18]

Well, setting aside the fact that I'm kind of pissed that my thread I started related to WW got merged and this one didn't despite the fact that mine had a much more original premise/idea/question than this.

None of the people you brought up have a chance of getting cast. Eva is 30 years old, and five foot 2. Sarah is too old and too short. Along with being "from the Buffyverse" which Joss has stated the actress won't come from, which also rules out Eliza, who wouldn't get the part due to shortness as well.

I really hope an unknown gets it or maybe Biel or Kim Smith who I hope can be a good enough actress for the part. She's the only person who fits the criteria Joss has outlined for the casting who's said that she wants to play her. She looks a ton like Evangeline Lilly in this pic

http://www.homunculus.com/profane/reliquary/smithkim/images/smith0336.jpg

[AcidicMaryJane]

Along with being "from the Buffyverse" which Joss has stated the actress won't come from, which also rules out Eliza, who wouldn't get the part due to shortness as well.

When I heard that Joss was directing, that was my first worry. I don't want any part of Buffy fandom coinciding with WW. I don't want any in-jokes - nothing. Not only would it be self-serving and egotistical, but completely rude to those WW fans who care nothing about the Buffy fandom.

That being said, I hope he goes with an unknown. Perhaps the future WW is now milking cows in Kansas. Or riding horses in Wyoming. :cool:

[Punisher 04]

http://entak.com/pictures/Eva%20Longoria.jpg
http://entak.com/pictures/Eliza%20Dushku2.jpg
http://www.smgfan.com/smgpg/pics/maxim6-00.jpg
or
http://www.tobiasb.demon.co.uk/images/Elishawp%20(10)_jpg_jpg.jpg
http://www.efanguide.com/~ajolie/news/gq.jpg

[Lucid]

How could you not notice there's a WW casting thread that's like 6000 pages long?

[dnno1]

How could you not notice there's a WW casting thread that's like 6000 pages long?

Spam!

[ultimatefan]

BTW, Nadia Bjorlin confirmed she´s after the role. Jessica Biel seems to be in the run too. or whatever reason they prefered to post a pic of her ex-Bruce Willis instead of her.
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=12861

[BT18]

BTW, Nadia Bjorlin confirmed she´s after the role. Jessica Biel seems to be in the run too. or whatever reason they prefered to post a pic of her ex-Bruce Willis instead of her.
http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=12861

She's very hot. Dunno if I like her personally. The combination of her quote about herself and being 24 and dating Bruce Willis give me a feeling of her being kinda superficial. But would not make a BAD Wonder Woman physically. She's not ideal to me on that front though. But might have the acting talent to make up for it.

[ultimatefan]

This board runs the stretch of a porno thread, a chauvinist's thread, a geek thread, and God know's what else. I mean, I'm all about the Wonder Woman more then the next guy, but come on...Grandma, no Grandma...you people are getting a bit ridiculous in your search for her -- unless, BY GOLLY, does Princess Diana actually exist!!!! I'm more interested in her acting over all else -- Wonder Woman has the potential to be an incredibly corny and cheesy (may be the same thing) charcter with a ridiculous pagan and far-fetched plot that contemporary right-wing America will find highly fantastical. We need a good actress. Period. All else is secondary. People said this about Ian McKellan when he was cast as Magneto -- he's not strong, big, bulking, intimidating. Now, can you imagine anyone else? For some reason, good actors/actresses become the character and make them their own! Good actress -- all else flows from this. Anyone can be toned, hair-died, whatever.
Well, to an extent, you have a point. If this was suggestions for a male superhero and people pointed out pretty boys like Ashton Kutscher and Justin Timberlake, other posters would bite their heads off. For Wonder Woman, people see no problem in suggesting pretty much any hot chick on the planet, even if she´s never acted a day of her life. Nonetheless, acting is important, but looks do matter. WW is hot, she´s a sex symbol, always has been.

[pimpernel]

Rumour debunking time again:

Jessica Biel is not in the running and never was according to the people making the official pre-production site (http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.net/) and some other folks i know.

Also (like i said all along) the early twenties rumour was a smokescreen... (http://chud.com/news/2616)

Q: Can you give us a quick update on Wonder Woman?

Joel Silver: We made a deal with Joss Whedon, he's on board. He's finishing Serenity, and when that's done, he's going to start writing the script. He has fantastic ideas, and the things he's told me I can't wait for. He really has a feel for the character. it's a full-on origin story, and it's really good. when we have a script, then we'll deal with the casting.

Q: Will it be an unknown?

Joel Silver: I don't know which way we're going to go, but when we see a script, we'll make a decision.

[pimpernel]

Just no...

http://tinypic.com/4lr6zc

[SolidRoar]

WOW, an official website already. But nothing's in there, Pimp. Where did you get all the news from?

Anyways, here's an update from JoBlo (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7250):

caught up with mega-producer Joel Silver to do an interview for his Dark Castle production HOUSE OF WAX today (more on that in the next week or so), and had a chance to ask him about two upcoming projects that he is producing: the adaptation of Alan Moore’s graphic novel V FOR VENDETTA (along with MATRIX creators Andy and Larry Wachowski), and the Joss Whedon scripted WONDER WOMAN. Here's what he had to say about those projects.
What is the appeal of WONDER WOMAN for you?

When I made the first MATRIX, I came out of the very first test screening for it, and the numbers for Trinity were so much higher than anything else in the movie, people just loved that character. And I came out of there, and I said to the studio, this is interesting. And I said to the boys (the Wachowski Brothers) maybe we should make a Trinity movie, and they said “No, no, no, we have this plan, we’re not making a Trinity movie. So I said to the studio, look maybe we should take, this was 1999, …take WONDER WOMAN and try to see what I can do with it, and they said fine. I never really felt I got it until now.

Why do think other female oriented action films have never taken off?

They’ve been terrible movies. That’s my opinion. This is a big construction this picture. It’s the intellectual property of Warner Bros., Time Warner, that character is the real deal. I think if we do it right, and Joss has a fantastic take on the story, and I think if it works the way it’s going to work, it’s going to be fantastic, fantastic.


You know what's funny? I was checking JoBlo's headlines when I saw "Portman is a Wonder" just 2 lines above "Silver talks Wonder". For a second, I thought the 2 headlines were related, since Portman is in V For Vendetta, too - also produced by Joel Silver.

[pimpernel]

WOW, an official website already. But nothing's in there, Pimp. Where did you get all the news from?

I know a guy that knows a guy. ;)

[SolidRoar]

I hope you're not being sarcastic, Pimp. :p

[pimpernel]

No i genuinely know someone that spoke to the guy who is making the site. :P

[BT18]

Rumour debunking time again:

Also (like i said all along) the early twenties rumour was a smokescreen... (http://chud.com/news/2616)

You link to something that provides no evidence of the proclamation you make with the link.

The "early 20's" was not a rumor it was a proclamation by Joss Whedon. And you provide no evidence it was a smokescreen. Unless there's something I missed on that link.

[pimpernel]

You link to something that provides no evidence of the proclamation you make with the link.

The site isn't up yet cos there is no reportable pre-production work happening right now... i linked to the site so you can know it exists... other than that my hands are tied... you can choose to believe that i got info from the person making the site (hence why i can tell you about the site's existence before anyone else has even discovered it) or not... honestly i don't care... i've heard the same thing about Biel from enough good sources now for me personally to be satisfied.

The "early 20's" was not a rumor it was a proclamation by Joss Whedon. And you provide no evidence it was a smokescreen. Unless there's something I missed on that link.

Apparently there was... the qoute straight from Silver saying that they have no idea which way they are going yet with casting and will not decide until the script is done. This backs up what i'm being told by various people... namely that right now they are looking at a VERY famous thirty-something actress (not Connelly before you accuse me of promoting my favourites) plus Jordan Bayne plus some unknowns. Again i have provided as much proof to back up my claims as i can at this time and its good enough for me... i couldn't care less if you believe me or not i'm just putting out what i have heard

[Steelsheen]

Rumour debunking time again:

Jessica Biel is not in the running and never was according to the people making the official pre-production site (http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.net/) and some other folks i know.
cool! there's an official site already, w00t! :D

and lets hope that Biel rumour stays dead.

[Steelsheen]

Apparently there was... the qoute straight from Silver saying that they have no idea which way they are going yet with casting and will not decide until the script is done. This backs up what i'm being told by various people... namely that right now they are looking at a VERY famous thirty-something actress
Catherine Zeta-Jones?

[Aethea]

Wonder Woman will just be a name used to make (The Matrix's) TRINITY: The Movie. I can imagine her in disgusting black leather, with only her bracelets as remnants of Wondie. YUCK. Joel Producer is just a Pirate out to make money. He could care less about the character's integrity.

[Lobo]

The Trinity remark worries me, but the teaser poster shows a classic looking costume, well the top half anyway Official Site (www.wonderwoman-themovie.net)

[ultimatefan]

Wonder Woman will just be a name used to make (The Matrix's) TRINITY: The Movie. I can imagine her in disgusting black leather, with only her bracelets as remnants of Wondie. YUCK. Joel Producer is just a Pirate out to make money. He could care less about the character's integrity.
It was just meant in the sense of a strong, kickass female character. They won´t put her in black leather.

[SolidRoar]

I never really felt I got it until now.
I think he means that the old black leather idea was wrong, and he got it right THIS time. Chill, it won't be Trinity: The Movie.

[Lucid]

Wonder Woman will just be a name used to make (The Matrix's) TRINITY: The Movie. I can imagine her in disgusting black leather, with only her bracelets as remnants of Wondie. YUCK. Joel Producer is just a Pirate out to make money. He could care less about the character's integrity.
What did you think before?

[Lucid]

The Trinity remark worries me, but the teaser poster shows a classic looking costume, well the top half anyway Official Site (http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.net/)
That's not the official site. It looks like crap.

[pimpernel]

That's not the official site. It looks like crap.

I was told its the official pre-production site. It looks like crap cos its just a marker for now.

[terry78]

This shot may get deleted for some slight racy content, but I have to showcase it, as it basically has me convinced that Jennifer can play the part.

http://chud.com/nextraimages/jennifer21_jpg.jpg

[BT18]

This shot may get deleted for some slight racy content, but I have to showcase it, as it basically has me convinced that Jennifer can play the part.


How did it convince you? You didn't know she had buttcheeks before?

How old is the picture anyway?

[BT18]

how is it that WB and DC could aquire

http://www.superman-returns.com/ and
http://www.batmanbegins.com/

but the closest url they could get for an official site is

http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.net/

and there are no copyright notices for DC or the WB on that site the way there is for the former mentioned sites.

[GL1]

Got any decent suggestions of your own then instead of just pissing on everyone else? Wasn't it you that said Mischa Barton would be good?

Did I? Meant to say she was decent... or maybe I just meant to play devil's advocate... I can't remember...

Regardless, My little rant was supposed to put down the "criteria" some of us are using, not the selections, I haven't heard many suggestions, imho, that would be HORRIBLE choices for WW, Micha, honestly was one of the worst, just because she's so bone skinny and the last thing she's going to want to do is put on weight... it'd end her bad girl diva days forever.

But when we ask for a 5'10 woman who's a great actress and "has the beauty of a godess" because one time she turned all the jla's heads is pushing it a bit. Those sound like "it would be nice" qualities, not "if she doesn't have this she isn't Wonder Woman" qualities... after all, we're supposed to be making "Wonder Woman" in a movie, not making Wonder Woman in real life...

But perhaps I'm being pessimistic and evil... I'd much rather see "I prefer actress X ove actress Y because actress X has better Z." rather than "Actress Y sucks, she's not A, B, C and D." But again, I'm not exactly a paragon of good conduct...

EDIT: Also, did anyone mention that Joss is waiting til they have a script til they pick actress? Does that mean the script is important in casting somehow, or is that just some silly director thing?

[pimpernel]

But when we ask for a 5'10 woman who's a great actress and "has the beauty of a godess" because one time she turned all the jla's heads is pushing it a bit. Those sound like "it would be nice" qualities, not "if she doesn't have this she isn't Wonder Woman" qualities... after all, we're supposed to be making "Wonder Woman" in a movie, not making Wonder Woman in real life.

Jennifer Connelly, CZJ, Monica Bellucci, Angelina Jolie, Carrie-Ann Moss, Terry Farrell, Jordan Bayne... off the top of my head there are seven names instantly that are about the right height plus beautiful plus good actresses... now i know you are gonna say they are all old but my point is this: they were all in their twenties once... you can't tell me there aren't actresses out there right now in their twenties that have all those qualities... Whedon just has to find them... thats what casting people get paid for.

Also, did anyone mention that Joss is waiting til they have a script til they pick actress? Does that mean the script is important in casting somehow, or is that just some silly director thing?

Obviously they wanna see how he writes the character so they which qualities to look for in their lead.

Nobody is saying they should cast based purely on looks... obviously you want a really talented actress to get the role... but that actress also really needs to have the physical qualities cos those are a vital part of this particular character. For instance Naomi Watts or Jodie Foster or Gwyneth Paltrow are great actresses but would be crap as Wonder Woman.

[pimpernel]

how is it that WB and DC could aquire

http://www.superman-returns.com/ and
http://www.batmanbegins.com/

but the closest url they could get for an official site is

http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.net/

and there are no copyright notices for DC or the WB on that site the way there is for the former mentioned sites.

Funny you should mention that... apparently they are covering all bases...

http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.com/

And i repeat... there is nothing for them to put on the site yet... pre-production will not even start until probably the end of the year hence nothing but the teaser.

[dnno1]

Funny you should mention that... apparently they are covering all bases...

http://www.wonderwoman-themovie.com/

And i repeat... there is nothing for them to put on the site yet... pre-production will not even start until probably the end of the year hence nothing but the teaser.

According to Comics2Film.com (http://www.comics2film.com/ProjectFrame.php?f_id=27), these are the related links to the movie:

WonderWomanMovie.com (http://www.wonderwomanmovie.com/) - Owned by Warner Bros. but not yet active
WonderWomanTheMovie.com (http://www.wonderwomanthemovie.com/) - Owned by Warner Bros. but not yet active
DianaPrince.com (http://www.dianaprince.com/) - Owned by Warner Bros. but not yet active

I think you'll notice that they take you back to the WB website. I think these are more credible.

Dno

[pimpernel]

According to Comics2Film.com (http://www.comics2film.com/ProjectFrame.php?f_id=27), these are the related links to the movie:

WonderWomanMovie.com (http://www.wonderwomanmovie.com/) - Owned by Warner Bros. but not yet active
WonderWomanTheMovie.com (http://www.wonderwomanthemovie.com/) - Owned by Warner Bros. but not yet active
DianaPrince.com (http://www.dianaprince.com/) - Owned by Warner Bros. but not yet active

I think you'll notice that they take you back to the WB website. I think these are more credible.

Dno


Maybe... i can only tell you what i was told... i asked twice if that was an official pre-production site and both times i was told yes.

Some people just don't seem to want this Biel rumour to die... which is odd considering most people hated the idea of her getting the role.

[dnno1]

Maybe... i can only tell you what i was told... i asked twice if that was an official pre-production site and both times i was told yes.

Some people just don't seem to want this Biel rumour to die... which is odd considering most people hated the idea of her getting the role.

Some people don't want the Jenifer Connelly, or Cathrine Zeta Jones, or the (yuck!) Nadia Bjorlin rumors to die either. That's just the nature of the beast. They are undying fans.

Dno

[pimpernel]

Some people don't want the Jenifer Connelly, or Cathrine Zeta Jones, or the (yuck!) Nadia Bjorlin rumors to die either. That's just the nature of the beast. They are undying fans.

Dno

What the hell is with the Nadia Bjorlin suggestions? That woman just scares me. :eek:

[dnno1]

What the hell is with the Nadia Bjorlin suggestions? That woman just scares me. :eek:

I think she must have a following of some kind (mabe its her friends at the beauty salon) that is trying to plug her. I have gone to a few differnt sites and have seen some fanatical and rediculous comments about her. I frankly see nothing in her at all except for the fact that it seems like she wants the part probably as bad as Jordan Bayne does (but what woman doesn't).

Dno

[ImperfectIcon]

Maybe it's just me but I'm not really confident that Wedon can do the job, but then again he could, who knows. If I were ever given the opportunity to do this project I would jump in very quickly and I know I can do it right, first time.

[nedkelly404]

aa11111111111111111111111111111111

[Fused]

Drew Barrymore. . .... thats hysterical

[Steelsheen]

i think we better come up with seriously good polls. a lot of these media folsk are lurking boards like this one and without bothering to read the thread, think that the ladies on the poll are "fan favorites" which could be nothing further from the truth.

[pimpernel]

As soon as we get a WW forum i'm gonna make a new poll. I think maybe i'll start a thread asking for suggestions then after a week add a poll with the most common/realistic names. Certain names ALWAYS get suggested tho... Connelly, Bellucci, Joelson, CZJ... so they should go straight on. All we need is a forum. :rolleyes:

[Steelsheen]

yeah, its been more than 2 weeks already since Mirko supposedly left for vacation right?

[pimpernel]

He said we would get it in three and its been like five i think.