Alien........

[BigRicky]

so what movies out of this series did you thoroughly enjoy.

will you see the alien rerelease, will you buy the alien quadrilogy, what is your favorite moment from all the movies.....

DISCUSS!!!!!!!!

[bakerboy]

In my opinion, the best one was the first one, Alien, directed by Ridley Scott, a horror movie masterpiece that i cant get tired of see it again and again.Great movie. The second one, aliens , was very good too, but less terror and more action. And i didnt like the last two ones.

[Edward Brock]

I worship the first three movies.
The last one wasn't asgood but it's not the aberation some people claim it is. The newborn's design didn't help much either :(

[BigRicky]

finally someone who respects alien 3 for what it is and not what it isnt, but my only ***** about it is that they killed hicks :(, i do hope the deleted scenes add something good to it, anybody know what kind of deleted scenes will be added in?

[Edward Brock]

The funny thing is, Alien3 is getting more and more respect as time passes... ;)

As for the deleted scenes, you could read about them on IMDb or in this (http://www.planetavp.com/al/) excelent site. Under the Alien3 section you'll find a sub-section called "Deleted Scenes", it not only describes them, it also has videos of some of those scenes. These were mostly taken from a copy of Fincher's Workprint.

[Isildur´s Heir]

I love the Alien and Aliens......but, more Aliens
I like the 3rd very much as a movie, it is fairly bad as a sequel.
I think that the movie as the style of David Fincher all over it, but, to kill Bishop, Newt and most importantly.....Hicks, it was a dumb ass idea.

Of the 4rd i like the Ron Perlman character and Ripley is good to as a clone (but, she shouldn´t have died in the 3rd).
It as a good photography...but, it´s a weak movie

[Edward Brock]

Yeah but, actually I... *Stares at Isildur's Heir's avatar*

[Hobgoblin]

Aliens is one of the best movies I've ever seen. Its a great story, cool special effects and Riply kicks ass. The queen alien is awesome to look at. I love its hiss. Im starting to like Alien 3 more but I still cant watch Alien 4 all the way through.

Any word on an Alien 5?

[Symbiotica]

Aliens will forever rock my world.

I love all of the first three films. I used to loathe Alien3 (there I was in the theatre, thinking: "THEY KILLED HICKS! OMIGOD THEY KILLED HICKS!".... and then the same thing for Newt. All that, and now she's dead....?! I was outraged.) The fact that these two were dead ruined the movie for me for a very long time.

As time passed, I began to see that this film was very realistic, as in, that's probably what would happen in real life. That is how life is. Not many movies have such a negative ending. The good guy does not win. How often do you see that?! Cool!

The Queen is, in my opinion, the most frightening negative film protagonist I have ever seen. At that point in 2 where Ripley tells Newt, "Hold on!" and she starts to climb the ladder near the elevators, and then the Queen sticks her head around the corner... and then you see the Queen coming toward them, screaming in anger and throwing s#!@ out of her way.... I think I would have just died right then and there of sheer fear.

Alien 4 sucks, in my humble opinion. I keep trying to like it. And I keep failing. I think it is Ryder who ruins it for me. She's so.... shrill. Yeah, you're a badass.... you, all of what? 85 pounds? You're punching men twice your size out? Sure, I'm taking her seriously.

[Symbiotica]

p.s. When are we gonna see an Alien film where they finally, at last & about time too return to LV-427 and investigate the Derelict? It's still out there.... We need to send a squad or two of Colonial Marines over there to investigate ASAP.

Preferably without Ripley. Weaver is anti-gun, and I think this is one of the things that screwed up Alien 4.

[BigRicky]

Originally posted by Mnemosyne
p.s. When are we gonna see an Alien film where they finally, at last & about time too return to LV-427 and investigate the Derelict? It's still out there.... We need to send a squad or two of Colonial Marines over there to investigate ASAP.

Preferably without Ripley. Weaver is anti-gun, and I think this is one of the things that screwed up Alien 4.

ya that would be pretty cool to go there and investigate wht happened to the crew of aliens, i think alien vs predator is kinda like that..... i mean the game

[BigRicky]

or they could have an origin of the derelict spacecraft

[Wolfwood]

I've actually only seen two Alien movies all the way through, and that would be Aliens and Resurrection. I'd go with Aliens as being my favorite for now.

[Edward Brock]

Well, if Fox continue with their "masterful" plan of letting Anderson direct the AvP movie, I suspect the we won't be seeing a sequel in like 20 years. Well, unless the Alien re-release and the new DVD collection that is coming out turn out to be some truly smashing sucess... er, sucesses... er, whatever :o

[Morg]

1 and 2 are the best, 3 and 4 are not good

[black_dust]

With out a doubt in my mind, Aliens

[Sava]

2 and 4 are my favorite

[BigRicky]

does anyone know why that ps2 game... Aliens: Colonial Marines was cancelled like a year ago, it looked badass :cool:

[Edward Brock]

I have not freakin' idea, they just pulled the plug... it looked REALLY amazing... instead they're releasing that AvP Extincion strategy game.

[skorponok]

ALIENS is the best thrill.

ALIEN is the best scare.

I HATED Alien 3 when I first saw it in the theatre...and I liked resurection a lot the first time I saw it, but it seriousely wore out on me.

Resurrection has a good pace and nice cinematopgrahy but that's about it.

Alien 3 takes getting used to, but still isn't up to par.

[Banshee]

Ressurection was campy, unlike the frist three. the first one was easily the best. aliens and alien 3 are tied. alien 3 was so good for this reason: in sequals, writers try to make the story more extreme. give it a larger scale (alien had one alien, aliens had more aliens, this time fighting soldiers thus making it BIGGER and BETTER) while this may work for on sequal it gets boring. alien 3 put ONE against people with NO weaponms. and it was still a good movie.

[BigRicky]

its just that they killed off HICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD DAMN YOU DAVID GLIER, WALTER HILL, AND LARRY FERGUSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigRicky]

i just looked on a site that has the quadrilogy release date at december 1st instead of november 11th, i hope this isnt true.

[Movies205]

Alien 1-3 are awesome, 4 sucks major monkey balls!

[Symbiotica]

wolfwood: "I've actually only seen two Alien movies all the way through, and that would be Aliens and Resurrection."

Aw, man, you haven't seen 1? Don't cheat yourself a moment longer: go rent it! It is awesome! You will like it!

bigricky: "does anyone know why that ps2 game... Aliens: Colonial Marines was cancelled like a year ago, it looked badass"

I am SO P!SSED about that. I was so looking forward to that game - I think I've just about worn out my copy of "Alien: Trilogy".... a game that will live forever in my memory as the most fun videogame ever. I was hoping for a new one just as fun.

And ricky, don't be too quick to blame the writers for killing off Hicks - from what I understand, they were planning on bringing him back. Then Michael Biehn declined to reprise his role, so they had to write him out. Wouldn't do it, no matter what!

After hearing that, I liked Biehn a lot less than I did previously. I don't know why, but that really tarnished my image of him.

[Archangel]

*hangs head in shame*


I have not seen a single "Alien" movie.

[DACrowe]

Alien

Aliens

Classics

The other two suck and are disgraces and ruin Cameron's ending.

[zanos]

Aliens is in fact the best film I have ever seen. It literally engulfs you and takes you directly from your seat and into the screen. Not many if any films can do that for the entire length of the movie. There really isn't a film out there that will draw you into it quite like Aliens. Whether you loved it or hated it, it will leave you on the edge of your seat or curled up inside of it. In comparison scifi/action films today have you pretty much lawning and ready to go to sleep.

[QuiGonJosh]

Aliens is my fave...and I will see the rerelease of Alien in theaters...whose not? and of course Im gettin the new boxset...

[LadyVader]

Woman stuck to the wall: "Please...kill me"
You can't see something like that and not be a little freaked-out. I for one will never forget that scene... EVER.

[BigRicky]

on a documentary called the alien saga on amc, michael biehn said that he was devastated that they killed off his character. tyhey never said anything about bringing him back

[BigRicky]

i also read someplace else that james cameron f**ked up the evolution of the alien. and that the original movies writers never intended for there to be a queen. it was all cameron. they actually had it to where a victim of an attack by an alien would actually mutate into an egg with a facehugger inside of it. frankly i think camerons idea with the queen is a lot better.

[zanos]

Exactly, an A3 script was even written with Hicks and Bishop in mind.

[Kent]

Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 are all very good. They're also quite conveniently in order of how good they are. Alien is best, then Aliens, and then Alien 3.

I do think however that Alien 3 is about as good as Aliens, it was very moody, I loved the setting and the claustrophobic quality of the prison. I also enjoyed all of the characters, probably to an even greater extent than the characters in Aliens (in which I thought they where a bit too stereotyped and clichéed).
Alien is without a shadow of a doubt the best of the movies though. None of them even comes close.

Resurrection was somewhat entertaining, but ultimately flat, uninspired, unoriginal and just pretty damn messed up...

[Edward Brock]

Originally posted by BigRicky
i also read someplace else that james cameron f**ked up the evolution of the alien. and that the original movies writers never intended for there to be a queen. it was all cameron. they actually had it to where a victim of an attack by an alien would actually mutate into an egg with a facehugger inside of it. frankly i think camerons idea with the queen is a lot better.

Well, I love Aliens to death (it was the movie that really got me into IT), but the fact is, Cameron took ALOT of it from the Starship Troopers book so, it's not the most original thing ever.

As for the "humans turnig into eggs thing" I suggest that you watch that deleted scene (it was actually shot) before you judge it. I actually think that it would've been and interesting... alternative. ;)

[BigRicky]

i know it was shot, but i like the idea of, and i quote Hudson, a "Badass" queen.

[Movies205]

Time to disect the ALIEN SAGA!

Best Crafted Film out of the Series(Best to Worst:
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
Alien Resurrection


Most Enjoyable:
Aliens
Alien/Alien3
Alien 4

Alien 4 sucked ass... Alien 1 and 3 are master-pieces, Aliens is an awesome action movie. As for Alien 3 if all you can say is that they kill off 2 characters so it sucked... Then I pity you:o

[Symbiotica]

ricky: "on a documentary called the alien saga on amc, michael biehn said that he was devastated that they killed off his character. tyhey never said anything about bringing him back"

Dunno.... I think one problem with this is, there were many scripts flying around for A3. About 20 writers got hired and fired off the project - we may never know who's fibbing and who isn't.

As far as the victims morphing into eggs debacle, I agree that was an interestingly gross touch, but for sheer drama and added fear-factor, the Queen was a brilliant idea (in my opinion anyways).

I've always been surprised Heinlein's estate (or is he still alive, I don't know) didn't sue over the fact that about half of Aliens seems to be lifted out of "Starship Troopers" unchanged. I mean, they just went in there and TOOK Starship Troopers! Amazing that Cameron wasn't sued out of his socks for that one!

[BigRicky]

they must clone HICKS!

[Movies205]

Treat Alien 4 as a What-If and forget about the character Riply and start out with a new character

[BigRicky]

i would like to see a movie where they go back to lv 426 and see what happened and discover the derelict spacecraft, thus giving a background to the "space jockeys." maybe then they could run into the free floating sullaco and see what happened, just a though though.

it could occur with and in between aliens and alien 3, i would really like to see that.

[BigRicky]

i just read something pretty sweet, its an alien 5 script treatment by james cameron for about the first 10 minutes of the movie. this may not be real... i dont know, i just found it interesting. i found it at this website... http://www.alienexperience.com/

heres the link for the 5 page script scene

http://www.homepage.mac.com/citizensane/rectify.rtf

and here is another for a conceptual poster

http://www.homepage.mac.com/citizensane/a5_poster.jpg

[BigRicky]

new info for Alien Quadrilogy Box Set

Alien
- Bob Burns Alien Collection (16m 52s)
- Ridley Scott Q&A (15m 38s)
- Alien Theatrical Trailer A (1m 07s)
- The Director's Cut Film Trailer
- Alien TV Spots (37s)

Aliens
- Building Better Worlds: From Concept To Construction Featurette (13m 28s)
- The Final Countdown: Music, Editing And Sound Featurette (15m 30s)
- Aliens Unleashed: Reaction To The Film Featurette (11m 38s)
- Beauty And The baby: Power Loader VS Queen Alien Featurette (22m 25s)
- This Time It's War: Pinewood Studios (1985 Featurette) (19m 39s)
- The Power Of Real Tech: Visual Effects Featurette (27m 49s)
- Bug Hunt: Creature Design (16m 23s)
- The Risk Always Lives: Weapons And Action Featurette (15m 12s)
- Preparing For Battle: Casting and Characterization Featurette (16m 59s)
- 57 Years Later: Continuing the Story Featurette (10m 59s)
- Two Orphans: Sigourney Weaver and Carrie Henn Featurette (13m 47s)
- Multi-Angle Pre-Vis Animatics With Commentary (3m 12s)
- Multi-Angle Pre-Vis Animatics Without Commentary (3m 14s)
- Interview With James Cameron (9m 29s)
- James Cameron Interview/Film Footage (3m 13s)
- James Cameron Intro to Extended Version (31s)
- Aliens International Trailer (29s)
- Aliens Domestic Trailer (32s)
- Aliens TV Spots (29s)
- Easteregg: The Boy And His Power Loader (9m 35s)

Alien 3
- Alien 3 Advance Featurette (2m 47)
- The Making Of Alien 3 (22m 25s)
- Alien 3 Trailer A (1m 00s)
- Alien 3 Trailer B (1m 07s)
- Alien 3 Trailer C (1m 01s)
- Alien 3 Trailer D (31s)
- Alien 3 Trailer E (1m 06s)
- Alien 3 TV Spots (2m 41s)

Alien Resurrection
- The Making Of Alien Resurrection (25m 42s)
- Theatrical Trailer (2m 19s)
- TV Spots (1m 41s)

Bonus Disc
- Alien Evolution BBC Documentary (75m)
- The Alien Legacy Documentary (66m 51s)
- Alien Quadrilogy Trailer (1m 05s)
- Alien Legacy Trailer (1m 05s)

http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=2224&n=1&burl

[Terminator 4]

I think that the point of both Hicks and Newt getting killed immediately at the beginning of Alien 3 was as if to say "s**t happens". Alien 3 is by far the most realistic, down-to-earth Alien film ever made.

[bluejake01]

Originally posted by Terminator 4
I think that the point of both Hicks and Newt getting killed immediately at the beginning of Alien 3 was as if to say "s**t happens". Alien 3 is by far the most realistic, down-to-earth Alien film ever made.

Funny that you and James Cameron can never agree on a movie...He hated Alien 3, and you didn't...he loved T3, and you hated it...

[Morg]

1 and 2 but didn't like 3 and 4 and probably 5 if they ever make it

[BigRicky]

THEY MUST BRING HICKS BACK!

[zanos]

The worst thing about this boxset is that you have to buy the whole thing in order to get the bonus disc. The last thing I want to do is buy Alien, Alien3 and A4.

[Eyeballing]

Alien definatley the first but Aliens was good too, it was far better than MANY or MOST sequels, unlike most they had a pretty good story and a reason to make another one, But the first is still my fav

[BigRicky]

the ending for alien 3 set it up to where that would be the end of the alien franchise. it had ripleys recording of what happened on the nostromo in the first movie. alien ressurection was just a cheap way to make more money

[Movies205]

Exactly Alien was the perfect trilogy...

Alien 1- Discover the alien runs in fear

Alien 2- Fights the alien

Alien 3- Alien ****s up Ripley life again and at the end does the ultimate sacrifice to destroy it.

-Alien 4 SUXORS!

Also IGN.com has the trailer up of Alien Director Cut! Who going see it?

[BigRicky]

that rerelease trailer rocks!

[Hudson]

well I believe Biehn was actually planned to be in the third one but he didn't want to.
Hicks was a cool ****ing badass wasn't he ? :cool:

[DACrowe]

No Beihn wanted to return as Hicks, but they cut his character and Newt's out for that matter, because they are dumbasses.

Oh and when I saw the Order (annn....it was okay I guess) they showed that trailer it looks awesome. Seeing it recolored is great, that was like when you saw the special edition of Jaws or Star Wars cool. And that deleted scene with Dallas turning into an Alien looks cool, but will kind of screw up the continuity with the rest of the movies, oh well. I wonder if it will be bloodier? I mean Ridley Scott shot a very bloody movie that was toned down for 1978 censors.

[Hudson]

who was dumbasses :confused:

[BigRicky]

well all that matters is that Hicks was the best character in the Alien saga. and i saw Aliens again today and i cried :(:(:(:(:(

[BigRicky]

well the official alien directors cut trailer is up at apple.com/trailers
so im hoping the official site will be up within the next couple days. but the only thing is, the audio seems ****ed up compared to the ign version.
anyways... heres the link

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/alien_25/

[Symbiotica]

Does anyone possibly, POSSIBLY know where one can DL the "O, Fortunata" Aliens trailer?! that was just the coolest one ever - I had it on my machine back before we got a Zip drive, and the HD crashed and I lost it.... and I haven't stopped sniffling about it since. That was so, so cool.

[BigRicky]

im sorry, the what....

wel apple took down the alien trailer because the audio was all ****ed up so we'll just have to wait for it in prime condition

[zanos]

I think he meant O, Fortuna

[BigRicky]

ok...?

so what is that!

[Symbiotica]

It was a trailer for Aliens that had an opera soundtrack.

Trust me, it totally kicked ass.

Then I had to go and lose it : cries : All else I lost that time I could bear, but that.... that was the worst. Especially since the site I got it from folded immediately afterward. Nowadays the CD burner takes care of all that don't-wanna-lose-it stuff.

[BigRicky]

hmmmm, only aliens trailer i have is one where it basically gives the whole story away.... well it gives the trailer in cronological order.

[BigRicky]

whew... i have a lotof updates.

from yesterday, DVDDebate (http://www.dvddebate.com/article.php?sid=3533) has released some more info for the Alien Quadrilogy. Currently, this is only the Region 2 news, but im sure region 1 will have the same thing.it also states that the set will come out on December 8th, 2003.

Alien

Alien Theatrical Trailer A (1m 07s)
Alien TV Spots (37s)
Bob Burns Alien Collection (16m 52s)
Ridley Scott Q&A (15m 38s)
The Director's Cut Film Trailer
Experience The Terror 1979 Promotional Featurette (7m8s)
Production & Outtake Footage (20m 59s)
Interviews With Ridley Scott (6m 27s)
Alien Laserdisc Archive - Chapter 4 - Interview With rIdley Scott (1m 49s)
Alien - Post Production (1m 39s)
Alien Laserdisc Archive - Chapter 17 - Lanbeth Confronts Ripley (1m 39s)
Kane's Condition (2m 16s)
Ripley & Parker (1m 15s)
Planning The Search (2m 57s)
A Quick Glimpse (48s)
Ripley Reassures Lambert (1m37s)
The Airlock Sequence Pt. 1 (1m 02s)
The Airlock Sequence Pt. 2 (48s)
Chapter 17 -Ridley Scott & The Cocoon Sequence
Chapter 17 - Production Footage B (Mute) (22s)
Chapter 17 - Production Footage C (Mute) (38s)
Chapter 17 - Production Footage D (1m17s)
Chapter 18 - Trailer (1m09s)
TV Spot A (29s)
TV Spot B (9s)
Chapter 20 - Ripley Scott Interview (2m 49s)
Alien Evolution Documentary (64m 31s)

Fear Of The Unknown Shepperton Studios 1978 Documentary (24m 3s)
Truckers In Space: Casting Featurette (15m 46s)
Ridley Scott Introduction To The 2003 Director's Cut (55s)

Aliens

57 Years Later: Continuing the Story Featurette (10m 59s)
Aliens Unleashed: Reaction To The Film Featurette (11m 38s)
Beauty And The baby: Power Loader VS Queen Alien Featurette (22m 25s)
Bug Hunt: Creature Design (16m 23s)
Building Better Worlds: From Concept To Construction Featurette (13m 28s)
The Final Countdown: Music, Editing And Sound Featurette (15m 30s)
Multi-Angle Pre-Vis Animatics With Commentary (3m 12s)
Multi-Angle Pre-Vis Animatics Without Commentary (3m 14s)
The Power Of Real Tech: Visual Effects Featurette (27m 49s)
The Risk Always Lives: Weapons And Action Featurette (15m 12s)
Preparing For Battle: Casting and Characterization Featurette (16m 59s)
This Time It's War: Pinewood Studios (1985 Featurette) (19m 39s)
Two Orphans: Sigourney Weaver and Carrie Henn Featurette (13m 47s)
Interview With James Cameron (9m 29s)
James Cameron Interview/Film Footage (3m 13s)
James Cameron Intro to Extended Version (31s)
Aliens International Trailer (29s)
Aliens Domestic Trailer (32s)
Aliens TV Spots (29s)
Easteregg: The Boy And His Power Loader (9m 35s)

Alien³

Alien³ Advance Featurette (2m 47)
The Making Of Alien³ (22m 25s)
Trailer A (1m 00s)
Trailer B (1m 07s)
Trailer C (1m 01s)
Trailer D (31s)
Trailer E (1m 06s)
Three Times TV Spot (14s)
Everywhere TV Spot (15s)
Review TV Spot (14s)
A True Knockout TV Spot (28s)
Galaxy Review TV Spot (29s)
Production Footage (8m 9s)
Adaptive Organism: Creature Design Featurette (20m 31s)

Alien Resurrection

The Making Of Alien Resurrection (25m 42s)
Theatrical Trailer (2m 19s)
Director's Audio Commentary (104m18s)
TV Spot: Scream (28s)
TV Spot: Host (28s)
TV Spot: Scream Cut Down (14s)

Bonus Disc

Alien Evolution BBC Documentary (75m)
The Alien Legacy Documentary (66m 51s)
Alien Quadrilogy Trailer (1m 05s)
Alien Legacy Trailer (1m 05s)

also... the official Alien: The Director's Cut website is up, doesnt have much besides the trailer and a flash video, but im sure something will be added.

finally... even more features on the Alien quadrilogy... now we can start to see what the 9 discs are for :D :D

Alien
- The Visualists: Direction & Design (16m 41s)
- Outward Bound: Visual FX Featurette (18m 51s)
- Art of Alien: Screen Test Footage: Sigorney Weaver's Screen Test With Commentary(4m 26s) or Without Commentary(4m 26s)
- Production Gallery: Darkest Reaches Nostromo & Alien Planet Featurette (17m 27s)
- Deleted Scenes (15m 42s)
- Future Tense: Music & Editing Documentary (16m 28s)
- A Nightmare Fufilled:Reaction to the Film Featurette (19m 19s)
- Multi-Angle Chestbuster without commentary (10m 27s)
- Star Beast:Developing the Story Featurette (18 m9s)
- The Eighth Passenger: Creature design Documentry (31m 33s)
- Director and Cast&Crew Commentary(111m 45s)

Alien3
- Furnace Construction: Time Lapse Sequance Featurette (4m 33s)
- Tales of a Wooden Planet: Vincent Ward's Vision Featurette (13m 9s)
- Xeno-Erotic: HR Giger's Re-design Featurette (10m 17s)
- Production: Part 1 Featurette (18m 0s)
- Development: Concluding the Story Featurette (16m 34s)
- Pre-Production: Part 3 Featurette (1m 39s)
- Commentary (109m 59s)

Alien Resurrection
- Introduction to Extended Version (44s)
- A Matter of Scale: Minature Photography Featurette (22m 48s)
- Virtual Aliens:CG Imagery Featurette (9m 51s)
- Alien Extra Easter Egg (6m 47s)
- French Twist: Direction & Design Featurette (26m 7s)
- Under the Skin:Casting & Characterization Featurette (12m 44s)
- Death from Below: Underwater Photography Feature (31m 35s)
- In the Zone: The Basketball Scene Featurette (6m 41s)
- Multi-Angle Segments Without Commentary (8m 34s)
- Test Footage: Creature & Costume Segments (14m 27s)
- Critical Juncture: Reaction to the Film Featurette (14m 25s)
- From the Ashes: Reviving the Story Featurette (10m 3s)
- Genetic Composition: Music Featurette (13m 8s)
- Unnatural Mutation: Creature Design Featurette (26m 21s)

[Winterine]

I liked Aliens the best, then Alien, and I thought Aliens 3 was ok. Haven't seen the fourth. Do I want to?

And Hicks was awesome. Just because he wasn't in the thired movie physically, didn't mean they had to actually go kill him off like that. *rollseyes*

[co2]

Geez, how many thread discussions will we have about Alien?
Eh, I could talk all day about that series.

I love the first two on equal footing. The first is incredibly creative and one of the greatest horror movies of all time, while the other is one of the greatest action films of all time.
Alien 3 was OK. Not as bad an addition to the series as some people claim. It is an acceptable addition to the saga.
Resurection.....I pretend it does't exist. What a great concept for a sequel. Ripley comes back as a part alien, part human clone....A superhuman clone. What a fantastic idea! They just totally screwed the pooch. Unfortunately that movie seems more like a bad joke. I thought it couldn't get any worse.....Well, Alien vs Predator proved me wrong.

[BAKERS_12]

If Alien 3 was not part of the Alien movies and was a stand alone si-fi film it would be classed as a classic, but it was not and had a hard time living up to its history

[HERCULES]

Went with ALIEN. The franchise should be a horror flick in space (like the first one) but that changed with ALIENS. I did like that one alot but since the aliens were being killed left and right (quite easily at times) they lost their mystique to me. Plus, they were quite visible throughout the movie which doesn't leave anything to the imagination...I'm of the 'less is more' school. ALIEN 3 was alright. I still don't really understand why many give that flick such a bad rap. I haven't seen part 4...and I refuse to do so.

[Sava]

2 and 4 are my favorite
boy was i stupid back in the day or what?... now i would say 1 and 2 are both great

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Alien - Really Good, great for the time
Aliens - Timeless Classic, if you could just edit out any scenes with Newt.

[Bat Attack]

"They mostly come out at night, mostly." LOL. Aliens is awesome. :up:

[XwolverineX]

Meh, I liked them all actually. I like Predator more though. Here's hopin' AVP2 kicks th' livin' crap outta' th' first one.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

"They mostly come out at night, mostly." LOL. Aliens is awesome. :up:I like when she says "They're DEAD okay?"
Hahahaha

[gregtestagent]

Alien was inspired by an earlier film "IT The Terror From Beyond Space" and I enjoyed Aliens more like all the rest.

[gregtestagent]

Meh, I liked them all actually. I like Predator more though. Here's hopin' AVP2 kicks th' livin' crap outta' th' first one.
**** yeah!!!:mad: :up:

[co2]

boy was i stupid back in the day or what?... now i would say 1 and 2 are both great

LOL. haha. My respect for you just went up with that self critical statement.

[swifty]

aliens and alien rule the world specially aliens!!

[aliens]

so what movies out of this series did you thoroughly enjoy.

will you see the alien rerelease, will you buy the alien quadrilogy, what is your favorite moment from all the movies.....

DISCUSS!!!!!!!!



My faverite moment was in aliens when riply walks in the room inside the big machine and says "leave her alone you *****!" to the queen.

[The Chairman]

I voted Alien but I haven't seen Aliens, which I heard is even better.

[Bat Attack]

You Must Rent/buy Aliens And Watch It. Now.

[ToddIsDead]

Aliens is the best Sci-fi/horror/action movie ever made. Not to mention one of the best all time movies. It's up there with Alien.

[Kira]

Well, I have to say that my favourite one was Alien 3. Unpopular choice, but I liked it.

And my favourite moment from that movie was Dillon's funeral speech. Charles S. Dutton is awesome! :up:

[Bat Attack]

Aliens is the best Sci-fi/horror/action movie ever made. Not to mention one of the best all time movies. It's up there with Alien.
:up:

[Cinemaman]

I can't understand one thing, why Cameron have not started filming of Avatar yet?

Soon we will have April, and there are no news about filming, and as we know he said Avatar will be realesed in June 2007.

There is no time to stay back.

[Iceman]

Alien and Aliens are genre leaders in sci-fi horror.

Alien 3 is merely not bad.

Alien Resurrection is a genre leader in comedy.

[GoldGoblin]

Nothing can top "Aliens".

[folliesrock]

I saw a short clip on Youtube of an Aliens-fan interviewing Cameron, asking him to do Alien 5. Cameron answered that he was almost tempted, since he (as you all know) doesn´t really like the direction the franchise has taken.
I also read the script in a previous post that is stated to be the James Cameron Alien 5 beginning. Whoever wrote it, has made something that really captures you from the beginning. Up til reading that script, I have had great doubts weather Alien 3 and 4 really should be ignored as hypersleep dreams.
I love "Alien" and I rate "Aliens" as the best film I have ever seen, also agreeing on that "Alien 3" messed things up really bad. Character Newt is THE only character in the whole series that has same experience with the Aliens as Ripley. Also the only logical choice of a possible future heroine. A brand new character might as well meet new monsters in another film.
I only hope that Cameron will make Alien 5, continue where "Aliens" ended as in that script. And hopefully also take the story forward, which didn´t really happen in "Alien 3" with "Alien 4" trying to repair some of the damage made.
But the idea of going back to the origin Alien planet is not bad at all.
Nice to see though, that there is a script that brings the survivors from "Aliens" back on the screen. It seems that´s what almost everybody wants.
(To be fair, I must agree with you who wrote that "Alien 3" would be a great film if it had been the only one, not destroying another director´s work, as well as disappointing many fans)



Cheers

[Boom]

I enjoyed the hell out of the first three movies. As far as I'm concerned, they're the best alien horror films to date.

[Dangerous]

First film is a masterfull horror flick too bad you can tell its a guy in a suit.

Aliens -a action film masterpiece and my fav of the series.

A3- I find a bore, the bit were it comes out of the dog is cool tho.

AR- I thought was pretty good actually, plenty of action and gross stuff.

Wonder if we'll ever get a proper sequal to AR?,,,,.....

[ToddIsDead]

I enjoyed the hell out of the first three movies. As far as I'm concerned, they're the best alien horror films to date.
I completely agree with this.

[xwolverine2]

aliens........

i dont remember the first one very good.

[folliesrock]

Forgot to mention another reason why it would be more logical to make Alien 5, disregard Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, continuing from "Aliens". There is absolutley NO WAY WHATSOEVER that Ripley would go back to Earth without scanning every inch of the ship first, after all they had been through. So what went on in Alien 3 (and 4) would more likely be dreams from hyper sleep, with that fact in mind unless it´s ok to let the alien be like Jason or whoever. It´s not brilliant maybe, but damage has already been done so it´s the least stupid thing the way things have turned, in my opinion. C´mon James Cameron, make the movie. The fans are waiting.

[ToddIsDead]

Why would you disregard Alien 3? It's so good.

[Crowforge]

I didn't like 3 much, for me two was the most fun to watch and I wanted to sexify alien/ripley and robot ryder in 4, plus I liked most of the story if not the execution.

[MrScissorhands]

I think the first Alien is a cinematic masterpiece and one of my all time favorite films.


I don't like Alien 3 that much, but from what I hear the director's cut is supposed to be a huge improvement.

[Crowforge]

I'm just not big on prision movies...

[WTFimVENOM]

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Aliens is the best of the quadrilogy, with alien close behind

[folliesrock]

Well, I must admit that "Alien 3" is not really bad in itself, especially since it was released as special edition, but it destroyed everything that went on in "Aliens". It would be like making "War of the worlds 2" killing off Cruise and the kid. If "Alien 3" would have been the only movie, it would´t be bad at all. It´s nice filmed and Sigourney is always good so...I agree in that way

[swifty]

if Cameron ever decided to make Alien 5 then how are they going to explain the aging since you don't age in hyper sleep. I love Sigourney Weaver to death but I think she might be too old for the role now then again I could be wrong.

I for one would like to see this actress as Ripley.

Torri Higginson

http://sci-fi-online.50megs.com/Interview/04-12-02_TorriHigginson_01.jpg

Sigourney Weaver
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1279/main1og2.jpg

infact Higginson looks a lot like a younger Sigourney Weaver.

[Crowforge]

Let's see her in her panties and then decide.

[Dr. Fate]

I guess Aliens is my favorite of the bunch.

[pointman]

The first 2 are the best.

[folliesrock]

If Alien 5 gets done it seems it either has to support "Aliens" or the two last movies, since those movies work so much against each other. And I definitely hope it will support "Aliens" and make what was built up in that movie develop
the way it was meant to be. Maybe Alien 5 could take place 20 years after "Aliens". Ripley could have been in a coma as an effect of her first 60 years in space, or she could have infiltrered the company to be able to wipe the aliens out. Higginson looks perfect to play an adult Newt. Biehn could return as Hicks, but anyone got suggestions for new actors or maybe a new director if we can´t get Scott or Cameron?

[Superfreak]

my opinion:

Aliens was by far the best. Loved everything about the movie. But as mentioned, it's more of an action movie, than a thriller/horror movie.

Alien was great as a horror movie. But I can never seem to get through the middle of the movie without falling asleep.

Alien3: I really enjoy this movie. Unlike Alien and Aliens, I seem to be able to watch and enjoy this movie all the way through. I think that a lot of people who harp on the movie do so because most people, like me, wanted to see more Colonial Marines (b/c they were super cool). Regardless, Alien3 really was a great peice of work. I can't say much more than that.

my order of preference would go:

Aliens
Alien3
Alien

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Alien Resurection (loved the villainous crew of Han Solo's, they were all mint, but the whole idea of cloning ripley because her remains contain alien DNA was stupid, it changed everything. It was an entertaining movie, but I don't know what crack pot came up with the narrative)




instead of Alien Resurection, I would have opted for the Aliens Genocide plot line from the comic books wherein scientists had discovered that the goo in the queens egg sack was a crazy performance enhancer. So a specially outfitted crew of Colonial Marines was sent to the 'alien homeworld' to harvest the purest form of the goo. But when they arrive, they realize that there are now 2 different breeds of alien on the planet, which are about to go to war (insect war) and our poor humans are caught in the middle. Twas a good story, and a great comic at it's time

[green]

http://www.bluefieldscreative.com/

this is kinda cool.

[Ronny Shade]

1st one's the best followed closely by 2 but I haven't seen 3

[ToddIsDead]

1st one's the best followed closely by 2 but I haven't seen 3
If you're ever interested in seeing 3, make sure that you see the extended version. The theatrical version is garbage, but the extended cut is much, much, MUCH better.

[Eggyman]

I watched the theatrical release of Alien last night with commentary by Ridley and the cast. It was ok...

Something Ridley near the end said made my ears perk up lol. It was when Ripley finds the last two crew members dead - you know, the woman who's always screaming and the black guy. He said that the alien had basically impregnated them with more aliens so there'll be more humanoid aliens on the ship now.

And he even hinted that poor ol' Jonesy may be carrying. Well, he said the noise the cat makes when Ripley puts it in the box indicates that that might be the case.

So his idea of the alien is like an asexual insect that can reproduce by itself but needs a host. He actually said something like that.

I was like, 'NO, that isn't how it works, Mr Scott. You need an egg and a facehugger.' A moment later I was like, 'Oh... it's your film - first in the series. So I guess it's up to you.'

I'm not sure how I feel about this. It changes the initial idea of the alien in a way that doesn't sit with the other films. There was nothing to indicate this in the actual film, so no one's to blame that they never followed through with this idea, but I was just stunned about there being more humanoid aliens on the ship before Ripley abandons it.

Anyone else remember this from the commentary? Thoughts?

Anyone...? :huh:

[Hobgoblin]

I'm not sure it matters. The idea he had was never explored and never became part of the mythology. Bringing it into a future movie would be a huge WTF.

I know he intended to have Dallas become an alien when Ripley finds him cocooned to the wall in the deleted scene. Fortunately he still looked human so we can assume that the alien was just going on its instinct to cocoon victims for impregnation by a facehugger, even though it was alone. I liked that scene, it made Alien's continuity more in line with the rest of the series, even if Ridley intended it to be different from what we know.

[Eggyman]

I know it doesn't matter, but I just found it slightly surprising of what Ridley had in his mind and which was never followed through on, going against the grain of the latter films. Just makes you think about how some ideas go unspoken and unnoticed and eventually lost under things added later that work to the contrary.

[CFE]

Holy s**t this thread just keeps getting resurrected, doesn't it...lol

The first three = :up:
Resurrection = meh

[Nivek]

Aliens is one of the top 5 action films ever made. It basically set the stage for any 1st or 3rd person shooter platform and PC game after that.

The original, well, it kind of isn't all that original to begin with (I seen a couple dated Sci-Fi flicks from the 60's that had the same plot), and to be honest one Alien running around it gets a little boring. But I respect it for breaking ground.

My next favorite would be Resurrection (Michael Wincott, Winona Ryder, and Ron Perlman), followed by Alien 3.

[Solidus]

I'm not sure it matters. The idea he had was never explored and never became part of the mythology. Bringing it into a future movie would be a huge WTF.

I know he intended to have Dallas become an alien when Ripley finds him cocooned to the wall in the deleted scene. Fortunately he still looked human so we can assume that the alien was just going on its instinct to cocoon victims for impregnation by a facehugger, even though it was alone. I liked that scene, it made Alien's continuity more in line with the rest of the series, even if Ridley intended it to be different from what we know.

Well it looked clear that he was using Brett, and turning him into an egg. He was half egg. Which many Alien fans believe that still could be part of the mythology. Because with no queen, a male possibly could turn a organism into an egg, so that a Queen could be made. It could always fit into the mythology. Many animals can change sex/do weird things if an "egg" layer is not there.

Ridley seems to contradict himself sometimes. Most seem to say that in the Quadrilogy that Dallas was "alien food" While Brett had been transformed into an egg. Who knows how it works? Could always remain a mystery on how a Queen can come about.

But Ridley did have some "bad" ideas I'm glad never came through. Like the Alien biting off Ripley's head at the end, and then talking just like her. Yea Ridley can get confused sometimes. lol

And also. We need the Alien Quadrilogy on Blu-Ray.

[chamber-music]

I always wanted to see more of that giant alien corpse from the first alien. I think the xenomorph is played out now. If they do a sequel with Ripley I think they should come up with a new alien to fight. I wouldn't mind seeing a movie with the Space Marines from Aliens as well. Carrie Ann Moss would make a good ripley replacement.

[Solidus]

I always wanted to see more of that giant alien corpse from the first alien. I think the xenomorph is played out now. If they do a sequel with Ripley I think they should come up with a new alien to fight. I wouldn't mind seeing a movie with the Space Marines from Aliens as well. Carrie Ann Moss would make a good ripley replacement.

First you don't need a replacement of Ripley. You can create a new character. And Carrie Ann Moss....she's too "Keenu" like, just wooden. Weaver had a vulnerability but strength as well.

But the Space Jockey keeping in the dark, is great, mystery is part of the series. And we have enough "Smart/Technological" alien movies out there. The thing that makes Alien stand out is its nature at its worst, its an animalistic killing machine, that is perfectly designed by nature. That is what Ridley wanted with the Alien series, and for the better or worse has been carried on with the others.

I say a remake would be hard, but if done right could give the series a new kick in the pants which it needs. Alien is about that animal/fear of nature.

[Eggyman]

In the commentary, Ridley speaks of the spacejockey as a pilot of the ship, delivering biological weapons - the eggs. That's how he saw it, but basically said it was up for interoperation.

[Hobgoblin]

I thought that the space jokey was supposed to be benevolent and warning humanity of the aliens. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Solidus]

I thought that the space jokey was supposed to be benevolent and warning humanity of the aliens. Maybe I'm wrong.

So many people say different things. Just like Harrison and Ridley with Blade Runner hehe. I think it is meant to be open. Who knows maybe the same thing happend to them like it did the crew of the Nostromo. Or they could have created them, or another enemy put them on there. It leaves it open to interpertation. And in the end though it is about the animlistic nature of the aliens. Not so much about the "Space Jokcey" But you put it well, it can be a metaphor to the warning to humanity as a whole trying to use nature for their "weapons" kind of thing.

But to me the Jockey can be looked at in different ways, but by no means the focus of the movie. Just a layer to it.

[Rishi]

I always thought the logical progression after Aliens was to keep the Space Marines and explore the origins of "The Company" and the space jockeys

[Solidus]

I always thought the logical progression after Aliens was to keep the Space Marines and explore the origins of "The Company" and the space jockeys

To eaches own. I never thought that, and most my friends I don't think ever thought that. The story is central about the aliens. Maybe where they came from, possibly the "Space Jockey"

But the thing is, Alien/Aliens, is suppose to keep mystery around it, that is half of the vibe that the third and forth lost. You have to keep a sense of imagination, and never really unveil "everything"

[CelticPredator]

I love them all. But Alien/Aliens is my favorite. I count them as one film.

[Sentinel X]

I just saw Aliens again today!

1. Alien
2. Aliens
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3. Alien 3
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4. Alien 4...ugh.

I try to block out Alien 3 and 4 from my mind and pretend only Alien and Aliens happened.
I think Alien is the better film, I could also see it took a lot of creativity and hard work for the crew. It was an interesting concept and just really well made, both are some of my favorite movie of all time!

[Faded To Deaf]

Aliens is my favourite for watching the Aliens.

[CELTICPRED]

As for the Jockeys, I've always wanted them to be left alone. One of the few great mysteries left in the Alien franchise.

My heart lept into my throat when Colin Strause mentioned maybe writing them into a next AVP film if he ever got the chance on AVPgalaxy. I'm still downright worried. It's one of the few things we know little about, the last thing I want is a couple brothers taking away one of the last mysteries from us.

[Faded To Deaf]

Edit.

[Rishi]

To eaches own. I never thought that, and most my friends I don't think ever thought that. The story is central about the aliens. Maybe where they came from, possibly the "Space Jockey"

But the thing is, Alien/Aliens, is suppose to keep mystery around it, that is half of the vibe that the third and forth lost. You have to keep a sense of imagination, and never really unveil "everything"

I'm not up on my lore, but doesn't the Company have something to do with their origin? I know theres theories out there that the company knows more about them than they let on...

Of course the aliens had to be involved in the sequels - I just meant that the focus shouldn't have been on Ripley and her journey, but instead a larger scale, with the company/origin of the aliens explored more

[Sam Fisher]

Alien is a very good sci-fi/horror movie
Aliens is a very good sci-fi/action movie
Alien 3 boring
Alien 4 nothing good can be said about this.
AVP enjoyable for what it was,
AVP-R terrible

[jimmylace]

The funny thing is, Alien3 is getting more and more respect as time passes... ;)

As for the deleted scenes, you could read about them on IMDb or in this (http://www.planetavp.com/al/) excelent site. Under the Alien3 section you'll find a sub-section called "Deleted Scenes", it not only describes them, it also has videos of some of those scenes. These were mostly taken from a copy of Fincher's Workprint.


quoted for truth. After seeing the Alien 3 assembly cut, Alien 3 became my favourite. Its got the dark mood an Alien movie should have. When you think about it, Aliens is actually the odd one out of the series.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I don't understand the hate Alien 3 gets, I think it is brilliant. Moody, atmospheric, claustrophobic, genuinely unsettling. And the actual look of the film is very accurate to H.R Giger's original vision. And it is just funny to see a load of cockney's running around crapping there pants and swearing every other second! :hehe:

But I voted Aliens for my favourite. :up:

[Eggyman]

I loved the Alien 3 special features where you see a dog trot off with an alien suit on. Pure hilarity lol.

The uncut version is MUCH better than the theatrical release. I was confused though: In the old version, didn't the alien bond with a dog instead of the bull it came out of in the uncut version?

It's very different, anyway.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea the Alien came out of a rottweiler in the original version.

[Eggyman]

I like the way they made the alien walk like Bambi when it came out of the bull in the new cut. Kinda cute in a disgusting, terrifying way.

[Ace of Knaves]

:hehe: Yea I know what you mean. Yea it was like Bambi, but just with extra blood and gooey...stuff. :D

[WeaponXProject]

I don't know why people dislike Alien 3 so much...I like that it went back to its horror routes with no where to go, no sufficient way to fight it and an internal struggle with the people Ripley was with. It stuck with the claustrophobic elements of Alien and that gave me the fear that the original gave me.

I love Aliens but to me it was more action oriented than Ripley's or David Fincher's.

But F*** Alien Resurrection besides the underwater scene.

[Eggyman]

I have a new-found respect for Cameron after listening to the commentary on Aliens last night. Granted, he was being a lil greedy lol. Did you know that in the space of three months he wrote three scripts? Terminator, Aliens, and... Rambo II. His Aliens script was actually a rewrite of a script he'd already written but wasn't very keen on. He added the characters and changed some of the plot... basically adding a new house to the old front door.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea didn't he re write the script for Aliens while Terminator was delayed due to Arnie filming Conan or something?

[Eggyman]

I know Terminator was delayed... that's something that puzzled me about what he said. I guess he'd just sold them on the concept and had to come up with the actual script. He said he had three two-hour scripts to write, that's 120 pages a piece. That's 360 pages to write in three months and then he calculated how many pages per hour he had to write to get it all done. Greedy genius :D

[CELTICPRED]

I'm not up on my lore, but doesn't the Company have something to do with their origin? I know theres theories out there that the company knows more about them than they let on...

The only thing we know Weyland Yutani did was tell the crew to investigate the signal and bring back the Alien for research.

[CFE]

Yea didn't he re write the script for Aliens while Terminator was delayed due to Arnie filming Conan or something?

Yeah. Dino De Laurentis optioned for Arnold to shoot 'Conan the Destroyer' ... So before shooting 'The Terminator,' Jim did a first draft pass on 'Aliens.' Based on the draft, FOX decided to wait on Cameron and see how he did on 'Terminator' to determine whether or not he could direct 'Aliens.' The rest fell into place, obviously.

[Sentinel X]

I don't know why people dislike Alien 3 so much...I like that it went back to its horror routes with no where to go, no sufficient way to fight it and an internal struggle with the people Ripley was with. It stuck with the claustrophobic elements of Alien and that gave me the fear that the original gave me.

I love Aliens but to me it was more action oriented than Ripley's or David Fincher's.

But F*** Alien Resurrection besides the underwater scene. I agree, I actually liked the underwater scene...but everything else was terrible!!

Theyve been showing Alien and Aliens a lot lately on the Encore channels. I personally didn't like Alien 3 but I didn't see the workprint or director's cut...which I heard was much better than the theatrical version. But if there was one thing I LOVED about Alien 3 was the dog alien, I thought that was really creepy/cool and definitely tied with the xenomorph from Alien (1979) as my favorite xenomorphs.


BTW, did anyone know that the actress that played Vasquez in Aliens (The awesome hispanic lesbian marine)...is actually white! :wow:...WTF?! I thought she was hispanic the whole time, I think thats actually pretty cool. Shes actually the same actress that play John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2!

[Ace of Knaves]

Vasquez was bad ass.

[Sentinel X]

^Seriously, its too bad she died. People seem to think Hudson was the best marine but I thought Vasquez was so much cooler.

HUDSON: Hey, Vasquez! Have you ever been mistaken for a man?
VASQUEZ: No.....have you?

hahahaha!!! :hehe:

[Ace of Knaves]

:hehe: Legendary line. :up:

"You always were an ass-hole Gorman."

[Sentinel X]

Actually, if Vasquez lived I think it would be quite interesting to have Alien 3 focus on her (after all she is in the marines and thats what shes hired to do) rather than Ripley again (although I do think Ripley is the best charecter of the series...but her ordeal with the aliens should have been done).

I think the original idea for Alien 3 was to have Newt grow up and become the new "Ripley" of the franchise.

Maybe if they were to make an Alien 5 (which I am kind of skeptical about)...they could probably make 3 and 4 Ripley's nightmares while she was in her hypersleep or just make a direct sequel to Aliens.

[Ace of Knaves]

I was mainly pissed off that they killed Hicks. He was like, my favourite character in any film ever when I was younger. But I think they wanted to make it a tragic ending for Ripley, she was never meant to have a happy life. I do sorta like that though, it sorta broke the mould to not have a happy ending.

[Sentinel X]

^True, I really felt sorry for Ripley (like my heart sunk for her). She spends 57 years in space, everyone she knows back on Earth is dead. Then she meets Newt(daughter-like) and Hicks (new love interest) and they both are killed at the beginning of Alien 3 :csad:...although I do like it when the writers try not to be so conventional, I think it would have been better for the writers to kill ALL of them off in the crash. That way it is sad but you know they all died in their sleep and that Ripley wouldn't have to live with all that turmoil, a bittersweet ending.

[WeaponXProject]

The Marines were cool. I thought it was neat that Vasquez was the toughest of the bunch. As for Hudson...I hate Bill Paxton so I try to forget every character he plays.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I see what you are saying. Ripley could of died with her new family together. I do really like Alien 3 though, well, the extended cut anyway.

[Ace of Knaves]

The Marines were cool. I thought it was neat that Vasquez was the toughest of the bunch. As for Hudson...I hate Bill Paxton so I try to forget every character he plays.

You don't like Hudson!?!?!?! He is a fricking legend!!!

[Faded To Deaf]

Lots of effs in that movie, you might wanna rethink it.

And Paxton IS a legend.

[Ace of Knaves]

Hahaha for a limited time only, it is now gone!

[CFE]

Yeah Paxton was AWESOME in 'Aliens.'

"Hey Ripley. Don't worry...me and my squad of ultimate bad asses will protect you!"

Next to Hicks, Apone and Vasquez, Hudson still held his own and was awesome.

[WeaponXProject]

You don't like Hudson!?!?!?! He is a fricking legend!!!

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I guess you misunderstood me...I HATE BILL PAXTON and I hate when he plays the comic relief like his character in Predator 2 or True Lies. So annoying. "Oh no man...what are gonna do man?"


As for the Hicks and Newt dying, that was the best way to go. The Alien story, atleast to me, shouldn't be a happy story ending. Alien 3 was alot like alien 1. All alone, trapped and few to little weapons available.

[Ace of Knaves]

:hehe:

"Independently targeting particle beam phalanx. Vwap! Fry half a city with this puppy. We got tactical smart missiles, phase-plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, we got sonic electronic ball breakers! We got nukes, we got knives, sharp sticks..."

[CFE]

As for the Hicks and Newt dying, that was the best way to go. The Alien story, atleast to me, shouldn't be a happy story ending. Alien 3 was alot like alien 1. All alone, trapped and few to little weapons available.

Alien3 was so damn depressing, man!

That opening credits sequence...and seeing the gruesomeness of how Hicks and Newt died...that's when you know that there's absolutely no hope for Ripley as a character...

What a sad, miserable world to live in...jeez.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but that's what I liked about it. It was so moody and depressing, a nice change really. I hate seeing happy endings ALL the time.

[CFE]

Agreed. It took serious balls for them to do that, and I respect their decision. Even though I really liked Hicks, Newt and Bishop as characters...ultimately Ripley's story doessn't allow for supporting characters tagging along with her from one film to another.

And I DO like that she got a new batch of supporting characters in each installment.

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea those crazy cockneys cracked me up! :up: And it had Pete Posstlewaithe for cripes sakes!! :D

I liked it when they were running through the tunnels and that bloke with the scissors bumped into Morse and he started screwing at him "Don't hold em like that! Hold em like this! You kill somebody!" All while the Alien is chasing them! :hehe:

[CELTICPRED]

Bill Paxton does nothing but shine in both Aliens and True Lies. Simon was a great character.


Sarge is gone, get the f*** outta here!!!!!!

[Ace of Knaves]

"...and a pair of *******? Make you wanna stand up and beg for butter milk!"


:hehe: HAHAHA legendary

[WeaponXProject]

Bill Paxton does nothing but shine in both Aliens and True Lies. Simon was a great character.


Sarge is gone, get the f*** outta here!!!!!!

His accent annoys the piss outta me. I don't know why people like him. He's a smart*** that says one-liners that make everybody roll their eyes.

When Paxton is freaking out saying, "No man. Fu** what are we gonna do man? Were gonna die, man!" That crap makes me yell 'shut up' at the screen.


As for Alien Ressurrection...I can't figure out what they were trying to accomplish with that one. Ripley's kinda one of the aliens and the alien is kinda human now. They went that road already with the military wanting one of the aliens...do something else. Don't tell the same story again.

[Ace of Knaves]

The best thing about Alien Resurrection was this line...

"If we wanna make a decent time I say we ditch the cripple...no offense man."

*sticks middle finger up*
"None taken"

[WeaponXProject]

I have no problem with Ron Perlman in that movie but I do hate Winona Ryder acting high the whole movie. The look in her eyes was so spaced out.

[CFE]

^And Michael Wincott was a BAMF...it's a shame he had to die.

[WeaponXProject]

I love Wincott in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves!

[CFE]

I KNOW. The man, in general, just has a kick ass voice. It's like bad ass gravel or something! Sort of like a Jack Nicholson voice with a textured, meaty bass. Wincott's voice is awesome.

He was a great villain in 'The Crow' as well.

[Ace of Knaves]

I love Wincott in anything. He was sick in The Crow.

[Faded To Deaf]

Don't forget the Count of Monte Cristo;

"Let's make a bargain. You ask God for help, and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

Heh, classic.

[Eggyman]

I love Wincott in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves!

It's a spoon, you idiot - it'll hurt more. :D

Alan Rickman :word:

[Spider-Vader]

I only enjoy Alien & Aliens.

Alien 3 is the biggest disappointment for me ever. I'm okay with killing Ripley (it gives an end to her tortute) but killing Hicks & Newt off so fast is retarded. I'd be way more happy with the movie if their pods seperated together away from Ripley's & Bishop's. Another problem is they down-graded bigtime from 'Aliens'. They basically remade the original 'Alien' into a cheap slasher flick with some lame dog alien. I'd really like to see some of the original ideas that were going around, like Hicks & Bishop fighting aliens or the aliens invading earth.

Alien: Ressurection... Yeah, that's all I need to say.

[SalaciousVC]

remade the original 'Alien' into a cheap slasher flick with some lame dog alien.


You lost your right to have an opinion,right there.

[Ace of Knaves]

:hehe: I liked that Alien 3 went back to the horror routes. It gave me the sense that there was no escape, no way to fight it. I liked that it was full of doom and gloom, it's better than having a happy ending.

[CFE]

You lost your right to have an opinion,right there.

But you gotta admit that that behind the scenes footage of Gillis and Woodruff trying an Alien suit on an actual jack russell was pretty goofy.

:hehe:

[Eggyman]

But you gotta admit that that behind the scenes footage of Gillis and Woodruff trying an Alien suit on an actual jack russell was pretty goofy.

:hehe:

Aww you see its lil tail wag as they sent it trotting down the hall? :D

[CELTICPRED]

Wincott is definitely a badass, I wish he'd get more work.

[Ace of Knaves]

Even voice over work or something. Like Keith David, he does LOADS of voice over work from Spawn TAS to Mass Effect. Wincott has one of THE most bad ass voices ever.

[Raiden]

I like Ridley Scott's Alien, but James Cameron's Aliens is imo the best Alien movie in the series. This movie has so many great moments, like when the team went into the lair full of arrogance, then they got ambushed and all hell broke lose. Or when the remaining survivors sealed off all the entrances, only to discover that the aliens were coming in through the wind tunnels. But the best part is when Ridley went in to save that little girl, and faced down against the Alien Queen. Some people lauded David Flicher's Alien 3, but to me there is no comparison between the two.

[dark_b]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6790&Itemid=99

[Ace of Knaves]

If Scott comes back to do another Alien film, my head will explode.

But will he work with Fox again after they forced him to cut down Kingdom of Heaven?

[dark_b]

i understand that Sott doesnt want to destroy hes working relationship with FOX. but he should be smarter now.
he made a great alien movie. let it be. leave it alone.

[Rac]

i understand that Sott doesnt want to destroy hes working relationship with FOX.
Yep. When he was asked what does he think of AVP film(s), he simply said "I better keep my mouth shut, 'cause I have pretty good relationship with Fox. But I think you know how I feel".

[dark_b]

this video is on youtube right? from comiccon?

[Rac]

Yeah, I think it was from ComiCon, or some con anyway.

[dark_b]

is he even aware that other studios would love to give him money for hes movies?

[Milu]

In order of most favorite to least . . .

Aliens. Ripley taking on the Queen, Hicks, James Horner's score . . . everything just clicked.
Alien. A true horror classic.
Alien 3. Good, just not a masterpiece like its predecessors.
Alien Resurrection. I heard anytime you mention this movie to writer Joss Whedon, he cries. I wonder why . . .

[The Navigator]

:hehe: I liked that Alien 3 went back to the horror routes. It gave me the sense that there was no escape, no way to fight it. I liked that it was full of doom and gloom, it's better than having a happy ending.

I agree with the bolded. Especially the way the Fox fanfare just drops away at the beginning like that at the beginning, and then the opening credits sequence...

But they really needed a different creature this time--maybe not the full on "xenofemale" thing Giger had envisioned, but something remarkably different. That's what made the first Alien so scary is that you didn't know what was coming. You can't "go back to the mystery of one alien" if you just do the same thing as before.

[Rac]

is he even aware that other studios would love to give him money for hes movies?
Well he didn't do American Gangster or Body of Lies with Fox, and Robin Hood is with Universal.

[Hobgoblin]

BTW, did anyone know that the actress that played Vasquez in Aliens (The awesome hispanic lesbian marine)...is actually white! :wow:...WTF?! I thought she was hispanic the whole time, I think thats actually pretty cool. Shes actually the same actress that play John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2!
I'm pretty sure she wasnt a lesbian. :huh:

She was also in Titanic. :o

[WeaponXProject]

I think a sequel to the series is fine with me. No Ripley, no one else. Just another take and element to the horror that the xenomorphs bring.

I am not liking the explanation of who they are and where they come from. I don't want to know why or what they are. That sense of the unknown of the alien creatures is scary enough.

If Scott does this he needs to just make a sequel and stick with the first movies horror feel. And make it R rated so we don't go into the movie expecting anything light in the violent category...lost in space, with an unknown terror, little to no weaponry, no where to run and no one to help you.

Another essential is good characters and actors to show the suspense and anxiety of the situation which was done much better in Alien than any of the others.

[dark_b]

''BTW, did anyone know that the actress that played Vasquez in Aliens (The awesome hispanic lesbian marine)...is actually white! ...WTF?! I thought she was hispanic the whole time, I think thats actually pretty cool. Shes actually the same actress that play John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2!''

OMG i never noticed this.

[Doctor Jones]

Meh, I don't know. But maybe we do need a great film after AR to make up for it.

They should go in a different direction though.

[Episode29]

This news is really unexciting to me. A prequel? Seriously?

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, no prequel. I'm starting to hate studios doing all these damn prequels.

Damn, back when the TOD and the PT came out, no one really heard of prequels before

[WeaponXProject]

Meh, I don't know. But maybe we do need a great film after AR to make up for it.

They should go in a different direction though.

I not only need a better finale than AR, I demand it.

The least AR could have done was show us some Winona cyborg T's and we didn't even get that. In all seriousness, the only redeeming scene is the underwater scene. Pure anxiety.

[CELTICPRED]

To me, there is really only one thing that I want.


DON'T TOUCH THE DAMN SPACE JOCKEYS.

The one thing we know nothing about, leave them be.

[Spider-Vader]

I hope Scott is giving full control like Rodriguez is for 'Predators'. Could this be a new era for Fox & that they've learned from WB & Marvel? We can only hope, we can only hope.

[Doctor Jones]

Agreed about the space jockey. If they explain that, that whole effect of them finding it out of nowhere will not be scary anymore. We will know what it is and where it came from and that loses everything.

[Boom]

Alien is one of my favorite horror films.
Aliens is one of my favorite sci-fi films.

[WeaponXProject]

To me, there is really only one thing that I want.


DON'T TOUCH THE DAMN SPACE JOCKEYS.

The one thing we know nothing about, leave them be.

Agreed about the space jockey. If they explain that, that whole effect of them finding it out of nowhere will not be scary anymore. We will know what it is and where it came from and that loses everything.


I can not be more serious about this: I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHERE OR WHY OR WHEN THE XENOMORPHS ARE FROM!!!!!!!!


That is why they work. We don't know and mankind, in the movie series, continued to interpret how we could use them but we had no idea how destructive they are. "The ultimate being", like Ash says in Alien. The mystery is part of the terror. Let it be. And obviously a prequel can not explain the history considering mankind knew nothing of them before LV-426 and if they did they all died. Spoiler.

Altogether I fell...:dry: and :csad: