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Just curious, whats Hulk: The End about? And is it any good? I just got kind of curious about it a while ago when someone mentioned something about some kind of bugs eating off all of the hulks skin everyday or something like that. Thanks ahead of time...
Hulkophile
09-15-2003, 10:35 PM
Hulk: The End is a story telling the "last days" of the Hulk. The story takes place in the future as Banner and the Hulk continue their Jekyll/Hyde-love/hate relationship. It's a good read, highly recommended.
Thank you..I appreciate it.
mister_satan666
09-16-2003, 08:27 PM
how far in the future are they?
storyteller
09-16-2003, 08:32 PM
How does it end??
suicideking15
09-16-2003, 10:10 PM
Hulk the end is quite possibly (in my humble opinion) the best hulk comic written. It answers all questions reguarding the hulks life and struggle with the monster that he is. The art is fantastic and the story follows the marvel time. Not only a fantastic read but a must for any hulk fan
Hulkophile
09-16-2003, 11:24 PM
how far in the future are they?
It's been a while since I last looked through it, but I think it's a couple hundred years in the future; Banner (and the Hulk) narrate the story and show the reader a glimpse of how they reached that point.
How does it end??
SPOILER BELOW
The conflict between Banner and the Hulk ends when Banner dies. The Hulk knows that reverting into Banner would kill him, so he lives the rest of his life as the Hulk.
Originally posted by Hulkophile
It's been a while since I last looked through it, but I think it's a couple hundred years in the future; Banner (and the Hulk) narrate the story and show the reader a glimpse of how they reached that point.
SPOILER BELOW
The conflict between Banner and the Hulk ends when Banner dies. The Hulk knows that reverting into Banner would kill him, so he lives the rest of his life as the Hulk.
Thats Fu*king great ending.
STINK-E
09-17-2003, 11:00 PM
I can't believe I've never read The End. It sounds great. Is it just one issue?
jack bacon
09-17-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by mister_satan666
how far in the future are they? the end. the human race is over.
jack bacon
09-17-2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by STINK-E
I can't believe I've never read The End. It sounds great. Is it just one issue? "The end" is a series "hulk the end" was the first. Hulk the end was a one parter, but marvel universe: the end and wolverine: the end are six parters.
R.B. Banner
09-19-2003, 12:22 PM
I've looked for this particular read myself and it's hard to find...any suggestions where I could find a copy online?
CaptainStacy
09-19-2003, 09:35 PM
Try ebay from time to time, or www.milehighcomics.com
The End was the comic adaption from Peter David's The Last Titan short story from The Ultimate Hulk novel, a collection of short stories...you can probably order that through your local book dealer...:hulk:
mister_satan666
09-20-2003, 11:43 AM
wow
sounds like a great story
so the Hulk is like immortal or something?
How long is Hulk: The End anyway?
Captain America
09-22-2003, 05:38 AM
I'm not sure which one I read but
SPOILERS
Where Hulk was saying how "Hulk needs no one, Hulk strongest there is. .........Hulk.. feel lonely".
Godlovinspidey
09-22-2003, 10:54 PM
I'm definitaly going to pick up Wolverine: The End, to see if they explain how he outlived the Hulk.
Originally posted by Godlovinspidey
I'm definitaly going to pick up Wolverine: The End, to see if they explain how he outlived the Hulk.
What :confused:
gniketariP
09-23-2003, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by sava
What :confused:
That confused me too. Pardon my ignorance, but did Wolverine and Hulk ever cross paths?
I think they did but not sure.
Jomero
09-24-2003, 03:41 PM
Hulk: The End is DEFINITELY a comic to have in any hulk fan's collection. Seriously the best Hulk comic I've read (yes, including Future Imperfect) with also the best artwork I've seen by Keown.
The ending leaves open to a lot of interpretation and I'll post my thoughts down below in the spoilers part of this message. But you owe it to yourself to try and find a copy of this! I got lucky and found a seller on ebay who was selling a brand new, unopened copy. Anyway, spoilers below....
SPOILERS!
What is this Wolverine outliving Hulk crap? Banner was visited by that recorder guy and he said that Banner was the LAST person alive on the earth. Not second to last, THE LAST.
As for the ending, earlier in the book that Banner said that Hulk never felt cold, he never felt anything. Banner went out of his way to portray the Hulk as an unfeeling, uncaring monster. But at the end, when Hulk finally got his lifelong wish and was truly alone, he said he felt cold. Which, to me, means that he does have a lot more feelings than Banner thought. And that, to me, also shows that Hulk did get his wish but he was lonely and unhappy once he finally got it. I think he's just a big kid putting on a brave, angry face when deep down he really did care about not being alone and missed everyone once they were gone.
Personally, I think the Hulk will eventually let himself "die" by reverting back to Banner after a while (probably a long while) because the lonliness he feels will only get worse as time goes on.
Truly a great, awesome story.
-Jomero
Jomero
09-24-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by gniketariP
That confused me too. Pardon my ignorance, but did Wolverine and Hulk ever cross paths?
Yeah they crossed paths on several occasions. Wolverine's first appearance in comicdom was in a Hulk issue, in fact. Hulk was in the Canadian wilderness battling Wendigo when Wolverine showed up. Wolverine was sent to try and kill the Hulk.
Wolverine quickly learned his claws couldn't even penetrate Hulk's skin and so decided to focus his efforts on taking out Wendigo (so he could concentrate more on Hulk). Hulk thought that maybe Wolverine was his friend since he was helping him fight Wendigo, and Wolverine evilly played along with that thought.
Once they took down Wendigo, Wolverine took a cheap shot at the Hulk while the Hulk wasn't suspecting it (thought Wolverine was his friend.... what a friggin' honorless coward that Logan is!). Still, it didn't phase Hulk much and Hulk once again became pissed off. The fight ended with Hulk throwing a punch that "could shatter a mountain" and Wolverine dodging most of it, but took a glancing minor, minor portion of the blow. It knocked him out. Cold. Completely cold cocked! In fact, one of the frames shows Hulk talking to someone else with Wolvie's blue boots in the bottom frame showing he's still out cold!
Another time they met was when Hulk was Gray. Gray Hulk goaded Logan into a fight when they were trying to work together to stop the Leader. Wolverine quickly gave into the goading and the fight ensued. It resulted in a tie (but Wolverine was clearly the one more battered) when the fight was stopped.
They also met in the "6 hours" miniseries by Bruce Jones. A little kid got bit by a snake and was in the middle of nowhere with no antivenom to save him. Bruce decided to try a blood transfusion hoping it would regenerate the damage done by the poison and save his life. It didn't work, so Wolverine ticked Banner off to turn into the Hulk, hoping that mid transformation the semi-hulk blood would do the trick.
Well, Hulk appeared and of course, a fight ensued. There's no way in hell a savage Hulk could be around Wolverine without smacking him around. :D The fight went on for a bit, and Logan was clearly losing (the last frame had his entire head encased in hulk's fist as his body hung limply down) when the little boy came awake and said he was ok. Hulk turned back into Banner.
So yeah, they've met a few times. :D
suicideking15
09-25-2003, 10:46 PM
Has hulk and wolverine ever crossed paths? I am guessing that was actually a joke.
Jomero
09-29-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by suicideking15
Has hulk and wolverine ever crossed paths? I am guessing that was actually a joke.
It's bad luck when a black cat crosses your path. It's really bad luck when a Hulk crosses your path!
-Jomero
suicideking15
10-02-2003, 10:01 PM
HULK SMASH that is all i have to say
R.B. Banner
10-07-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by CaptainStacy
Try ebay from time to time, or www.milehighcomics.com
The End was the comic adaption from Peter David's The Last Titan short story from The Ultimate Hulk novel, a collection of short stories...you can probably order that through your local book dealer...:hulk:
Ebay was a good suggestion, because I just got lucky and won an auction from somebody selling a Mint edition copy of Hulk: The End. I knew about the Last Titan story-- Ultimate Hulk is such a great collection of short stories, I also highly recommend that for any true Hulk fan, 'tis a must have.
Jplaya2023
07-12-2006, 02:37 PM
yo, i heard in this comic hulk actually regenerated his arm or something? Is that true
torkibe
07-12-2006, 10:54 PM
yo, i heard in this comic hulk actually regenerated his arm or something? Is that true
He regenerated a hell of a lot more than that. Read it.
Symbiote Hulk
07-14-2006, 12:24 AM
Meh, I don't really like the plot for "The End" I mean:
#1 Hulk's rage will eventually fade away and he will end up dying
#2 Humans are dead? Couldn't they just have colonised other planets?
#3 Coakroackes feeding on the Hulk when he's still alive....oh boy
#4 I'd rather Hulk gave his life protecting Earth from some Super Vilain (Maybe Galactus) then just dying miserably & lonely without ANY honour
#5 What happened to all the other "Undying beings" like Wolverine, The Dark Phoenix, She-Hulk, Silversurfer, Galactus etc.?
It's sort of interesting but I would definately not choose that Ending for the "official" end...
Mr. Green
07-16-2006, 01:58 AM
Meh, I don't really like the plot for "The End" I mean:
#1 Hulk's rage will eventually fade away and he will end up dying
#2 Humans are dead? Couldn't they just have colonised other planets?
#3 Coakroackes feeding on the Hulk when he's still alive....oh boy
#4 I'd rather Hulk gave his life protecting Earth from some Super Vilain (Maybe Galactus) then just dying miserably & lonely without ANY honour
#5 What happened to all the other "Undying beings" like Wolverine, The Dark Phoenix, She-Hulk, Silversurfer, Galactus etc.?
It's sort of interesting but I would definately not choose that Ending for the "official" end...
#1 He has to be angry to live?
#2 Apparantly not.
#3 :confused:
#4 If you have read it you would have seen that he can survive being eaten alive by insects. He's not exactly easy to kill.
#5 Wolverine can die easier than Hulk. The Phoenix force is not human. She-Hulk can die a LOT easier than Hulk. Silver Surfer and Galactus aren't human either.
Jplaya2023
07-17-2006, 12:43 AM
He regenerated a hell of a lot more than that. Read it.
than this is obviously non canon then
Effect
07-17-2006, 01:08 AM
I beleive all of "The End" stories are non-canon. I think they're all just huge "What ifs" of what could happen, not what will happen. I read this issue and I didn't really care for it to much.
I would think the Kree and Skrulls would have killed themselves off by then. Also what gives them the right to think humans weren't worth keeping around, like they are in position to talk about other races after all the crap they've done. I did like the whole "Titan" comparison that was done with the Hulk. That was pretty good but the ending itself didn't care for.
I have always hoped that Hulk and Bruce would sooner or later merge and accept each other. Thus mentally finally becoming one and the transformation being a willing one with no mental changes. That to me would be a great ending to the continuing problem of the two sides always being at odds.
Mr. Green
07-17-2006, 02:56 AM
than this is obviously non canon then
You are wrong...
Again. :down
Jplaya2023
07-17-2006, 08:27 AM
I beleive all of "The End" stories are non-canon. I think they're all just huge "What ifs" of what could happen, not what will happen. I read this issue and I didn't really care for it to much.
Exactly, buch of bullsheeit
Symbiote Hulk
07-17-2006, 10:37 AM
#1 He has to be angry to live?
#2 Apparantly not.
#3 :confused:
#4 If you have read it you would have seen that he can survive being eaten alive by insects. He's not exactly easy to kill.
#5 Wolverine can die easier than Hulk. The Phoenix force is not human. She-Hulk can die a LOT easier than Hulk. Silver Surfer and Galactus aren't human either.
Meh, still, I'd rather have Hulk sacrafice himself in order to save the world from a god-like(Or possibly an evil god) being. Bruce would have left his mark in history as the protector of earth. It just seems more.....right then him being the last human/living being on earth and being lonely all the time with his roaches.
not_a_victim
07-23-2006, 04:12 PM
Maybe it's my Literary History minor at work here, but regardless of the text, I got the feeling that the Hulk: The End story was a take on Hell. With the roaches feeding on Hulk constantly, it was analogous to Prometheus' punishment, though in this case, what Hulk is being punished for is unclear.
The problem(s) I have with the End stories is that none of them really recitfy anything.
In the Wolverine story, you find out some stuff about Logan's family, (whoe couldn't see that coming from the first panel when you see you-know-who)but it doesnt really show a real climax. meh.
The Hulk story doesn't rectify anything, either. I get the feeling that Banner isn't dead, the Hulk's strength and desire to be accepted is keeping him alive very deep within him somewhere.
The "The End" books, IMHO, should have spanned atleast 3 issues, with each functioning as an act in a play. It would have enabled them to dedicate and entire issue/book to the true "END". Don't get me wrong, they were good reads, but the pace within them seemed a little rushed and forced.
not_a_victim
07-23-2006, 04:16 PM
Meh, still, I'd rather have Hulk sacrafice himself in order to save the world from a god-like(Or possibly an evil god) being. Bruce would have left his mark in history as the protector of earth. It just seems more.....right then him being the last human/living being on earth and being lonely all the time with his roaches.
I have always thought that Mevel should toy with the idea of Hulk being a god. Not saying it had to be in canon, but not quite a "What if..." story. Maybe after an epic rampage, where the militaries of the entire world come together to try to destroy him, fail to do so, and the people of the Earth start to think that Hulk is "Like a god" in his strength, and that he is the only one with true infinite power, and.... I got nothing after that.
Slim31
08-04-2006, 12:50 AM
This is the best "The End" of them all.
sean61675
08-10-2006, 10:30 AM
Can someone scan the pages where he is being eaten? I would like to see that.
(I know, someone will say go buy it but I am at work and I would like to see it if someone could do that)
Mad Bull
08-10-2006, 12:46 PM
Can someone scan the pages where he is being eaten? I would like to see that.
(I know, someone will say go buy it but I am at work and I would like to see it if someone could do that)
The Hulk regenerates eyes, tongue, intestines, and more. HULK: THE END http://img198.exs.cx/img198/7175/healing14a1vc.jpg http://img198.exs.cx/img198/3606/healing14b9zu.jpg http://img198.exs.cx/img198/4638/healing14c1pf.jpg (compliments of Jonathanos's Incredible Hulk Capability thread)
sean61675
08-11-2006, 01:21 PM
The Hulk regenerates eyes, tongue, intestines, and more. HULK: THE END http://img198.exs.cx/img198/7175/healing14a1vc.jpg http://img198.exs.cx/img198/3606/healing14b9zu.jpg http://img198.exs.cx/img198/4638/healing14c1pf.jpg (compliments of Jonathanos's Incredible Hulk Capability thread)
Thanks!! That was awesome (gross, but awesome). I need to go out and buy that. Are the pages showing him actually getting eaten?
I know, I like my gore.
Mad Bull
08-11-2006, 01:55 PM
Thanks!! That was awesome (gross, but awesome). I need to go out and buy that. Are the pages showing him actually getting eaten?
I know, I like my gore.
Yeah, I believe they show him getting attacked. I'm not sure how graphic it is, though. I haven't actually read it myself.
Mad Jim Jaspers
11-08-2006, 08:48 PM
I'll have to get ahold of that also.I've only seen scans and liked what I saw:woot:
kainedamo
11-09-2006, 07:00 AM
Meh, still, I'd rather have Hulk sacrafice himself in order to save the world from a god-like(Or possibly an evil god) being. Bruce would have left his mark in history as the protector of earth. It just seems more.....right then him being the last human/living being on earth and being lonely all the time with his roaches.
It's meant to be tragic. And it plays off of greek mythology too. It's a very good story.
kainedamo
11-09-2006, 07:05 AM
Maybe it's my Literary History minor at work here, but regardless of the text, I got the feeling that the Hulk: The End story was a take on Hell. With the roaches feeding on Hulk constantly, it was analogous to Prometheus' punishment, though in this case, what Hulk is being punished for is unclear.
It's very clear he's being punished for the crimes of Bruce Banner. Banner opened "pandoras box".
The problem(s) I have with the End stories is that none of them really recitfy anything.
In the Wolverine story, you find out some stuff about Logan's family, (whoe couldn't see that coming from the first panel when you see you-know-who)but it doesnt really show a real climax. meh.
The Hulk story doesn't rectify anything, either. I get the feeling that Banner isn't dead, the Hulk's strength and desire to be accepted is keeping him alive very deep within him somewhere.
The "The End" books, IMHO, should have spanned atleast 3 issues, with each functioning as an act in a play. It would have enabled them to dedicate and entire issue/book to the true "END". Don't get me wrong, they were good reads, but the pace within them seemed a little rushed and forced.
Hulk brought the personality conflict between Banner and Hulk to a head. I agree that other The End books have been disappointing, but Hulk: The End DID have a real end. It was all about the conflict between Banner and Hulk.
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