Wrestling

[3dman27]

maven ,cristian edge natich
notice the need for NO ONE names triple h

[John Constantine]

Don't they need an Enforcer in the group? :confused:

[Metamorpho1977]

I'm gonna be basing the new 4 Horsemen on similarities with the original 4. These are all going to be almost impossible to fill, but I'm gonna try anyway. I'm gonna be drawing from both Smackdown and Raw lockers for these four. and Triple H ain't even gonna be in the background of these horsemen... except as a target for them.

Rick Flair-this is a hard spot to fill, because face it, no one's gonna be able to take the place of the Nature Boy. Anyway I'm gonna name a new leader for the 4. One that in a few years may be able to begin a legacy like the one Flair will leave behind.-Chris Jericho has a lot of Ric Flair personality. He has a lot of traits now that Flair had back when he was starting to make a name for himself

Arn Anderson-Hardcore Holly embodies everything that made the Enforcer great back in the day. He's a brawler and he can outwrestle just about everyone in the WWE if they gave him half a chance

Ole Anderson-the bad guy with a heart of gold was who Ole was. He was a heel, but he had integrity in a way. He'd be the checks and balances of the group, he'd be the one to make sure the others didn't get too far ahead of him. So I'm picking Batista for this position. I see in him the potential to be great if only he can get out from under Triple H's shadow.

Tully Blanchard-Tully Blanchard has been one of the most important ingredients in The Four Horsemen. No one else could ever be quite so sneaky. No one else could escape the most desperate of situations. No one else could be so dangerous when he seemed totally cornered and outmatched. Simply put, no one else was Tully Blanchard. My choice to take his spot in the new Horsemen-Christian

[SLYspyda]

hmm.....how about no?

they need to concentrate on evolution, add maven to evolution, evolution isn't quite complete without a final young fourth member. give them all belts again, IMO, to show their power. flair doesn't really have to have a belt, he's rick flair, triple h and batista should be tag team champions, then maven intercontinental champion.

[Donnie Darko]

seriously, they are really throwing around the term "greatest WWE superstars of all time" phrase tonight. Well, maybe if they are only considering the time period since the company officially became WWE. But still, Rikishi? Nah. And I love Booker T, but they haven't let him reach his potential in WWE. Eddie's main event/champion status is still too young to be considered one of the all time greats in WWE. And, of course, Triple-H is the spawn of the devil.

[John Constantine]

Well they're probably doing it just to hype up both JBL and Angle so they can make the match especially special I guess :confused:

And that Royal Rumble promo was so badass :cool:

[Donnie Darko]

yeah, it was

[Donnie Darko]

good God, that was the most onesided match I've ever seen.

[JINoside]

^Which one?

I think the F5 Big Show did looked kinda sloopy. I think its because hes to tall and not able to fall on his back properly......

Um.......I thought Smackdown was Ok......Sorta.......

[GLfan]

I think it's a set up for Lesnar to return, why else would he use that move.

[3dman27]

i had the tv muted duringthe west side story takeoff commercial luckily my mute only affects the tv not the tape recording i'll check out the ad later

[WildChild]

I did't watch SmackDown! this week were there actual hints that Lesnar might come back?

[Donnie Darko]

^Which one?

I think the F5 Big Show did looked kinda sloopy. I think its because hes to tall and not able to fall on his back properly......

Um.......I thought Smackdown was Ok......Sorta.......

John Cena streetfight

[Jason Blood]

I've read that the WWE has no current plans to bring back Lesnar

they might later but because Lesnar is currently calling the WWE about hiring him they are probably teaching him a lesson

yes Show's F-Flop looked very sloppy

[Jason Blood]

John Cena streetfight

did anyone else notice how lame Cena's F-U was?

it was due to Jesus's back injury

Jesus is pretty messed up and will be out of action for a while


they just keep on dropping:(

[dr. loomis]

yeah, there has been many injuries as of late. i blame none other than vince. he obtained alot of superstars when wcw/ecw went under. i was thinking back then how it was gonna be a cluster of people, and a big problem. now, of coarse, alot of the wcw guys have went on to oter things, however, vince is CONSTANTLY pushing all these new people on tv, and some really dont get a chance to build a charecter or fanbase before the next "big thing" pops up. these new stars, and older ones as well, are CONSTANTLY fighting for top position and airtime. so many people have undeservingly been dropped down and eventually forgotten, and thats sad. now, striving for top billing does make a superstar step it up, however, they are, i believe, pushed too hard; thus causing alot of injuries. :bomb:

[dr. loomis]

oh, and can someone explain the black and white thing with the cena/jesus match!?!?!

[jackcool]

Because Smackdown is on UPN, they have to limit the amount of blood seen on the show. Hence, the black and white sequence because Jesus pulled a blade job. Kinda like when Tarantino made that crazy 88 fight black and white to get an R-rating.

[3dman27]

excuse me jackcool but what does the b/w scene have to do with jesus' blood? im afraid i missed your point unlees you were refering to the fcc

[3dman27]

did anyone catch cena's turntable title belt LOL
it reminded me of dynamo's thunderbelt from T.H.U.N.D.E.R.agents

[jackcool]

excuse me jackcool but what does the b/w scene have to do with jesus' blood? im afraid i missed your point unlees you were refering to the fcc

Black and white makes the blood look a bit less extreme. They've done it a few times before. Like when Brock Lesner totally destroyed Zach Gowen and Gowen was bleeding like a stuck pig, they switched to black and white to make the scene look more toned down.

[3dman27]

i see, thank you

[dr. loomis]

cool, thanks jack. yeah, that turn table belt is the s***!!!!

[The Avatar]

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[3dman27]

did anyone see the christmas in iraq smackdown? what did you think of it?

[Metamorpho1977]

why couldn't they have that new Mohammed guy make his debut there and get beat by Kurt Angle?

[Jason Blood]

he's a RAW brand star

besides that kind of thing would really piss the troops off

it was really just a special event for the troops

Hardcore Holly beat ****ing Kenzo Suzuki

not a single heel won from what I saw

[Jason Blood]

did anyone see the christmas in iraq smackdown? what did you think of it?

I really liked it actually

I thought it was a spectacular show and it served its purpose

[3dman27]

he's a RAW brand star

besides that kind of thing would really piss the troops off

it was really just a special event for the troops

Hardcore Holly beat ****ing Kenzo Suzuki

not a single heel won from what I saw
NOPE not a one

[Hunter Rider]

belt off jbl now,it's getting incredibly dull

[Agent Phoenix]

All of the championships will be defended on Smackdown this Thursday (Tuesday really)

none of the challengers have been announced so far

who do you think the challengers will be?

[Agent Phoenix]

belt off jbl now,it's getting incredibly dull

I disagree completely

[Hunter Rider]

I disagree completely
he has had it over 6 months and he still has zero credibility,his mic work is good but his in ring work is merely competent,the way he is marketed he is neither respected or feared he is to most a joke,he's been made to look stupid in every title fight so far and smackdown needs a new champ and i certainly hope we get one before mania as he would make the worst champ since sid in a mania title fight

[Silver Sable]

I can't believe I used to watch that fake crap. But I do have to say it's funny at times lol

[GLfan]

I missed last nights Raw anyone know the results?

[3dman27]

all the elimination chamber contestant had and won beat the clock matches against unnam,ed opponents
simon dean defeates rosey
non title lita mastered molly holly [unfortuanaly]

[Metamorpho1977]

don't really like how next week's "debate" between King and JR vs Mohammad and whatever his partner's name is gonna turn out.

[Agent Phoenix]

he has had it over 6 months and he still has zero credibility,his mic work is good but his in ring work is merely competent,the way he is marketed he is neither respected or feared he is to most a joke,he's been made to look stupid in every title fight so far and smackdown needs a new champ and i certainly hope we get one before mania as he would make the worst champ since sid in a mania title fight

I'm hoping for Cena/JBL at WMXXI

everyone knows JBL will keep the title until WM

[Hunter Rider]

I'm hoping for Cena/JBL at WMXXI

everyone knows JBL will keep the title until WM
fair enough we all have our fav's;)
personally if the inter-promotional match between angle and HBK doesn't happen i'm thinking cena vs angle.
btw although the rumors of jbl keeping the belt till mania are rife,as i'm sure you know nothing is for certain in wrestling;)

[Sava]

I want Austin back...and WWE to back to the good old days

[Hunter Rider]

I want Austin back...and WWE to back to the good old daysmeh..You have too look to the future not the past Austin had his time and was weak in his last In ring run as injuries had made him incapable of doing most of the moves correctly.
You'll probably see him in a special referee role at some point;)

[DOG LIPS]

I want Austin back...and WWE to back to the good old days
He's too busy beating his wife. :o

[Metamorpho1977]

I missed the ending last night. Did they announce the special referee?

[DOG LIPS]

I missed the ending last night. Did they announce the special referee?
Yes, it's Doink the clown.

[Donnie Darko]

meh..You have too look to the future not the past Austin had his time and was weak in his last In ring run as injuries had made him incapable of doing most of the moves correctly.
You'll probably see him in a special referee role at some point;)

yeah, I was expecting to see him announced as the special ref for New Year's Revolution. Speaking of that match, am I the only one that gets a bad feeling that Triple-H is gonna win AGAIN? Seriously, he is the last person in the match I want to see win. I'm thinking the only reason they took the belt from him in the first place was so he could win it back and add another one to his tally of unimpressive title runs. The only good thing that would come from Triple H winning would be a WM showdown between him and Randy Orton or better yet, Batista.

[Hunter Rider]

yeah, I was expecting to see him announced as the special ref for New Year's Revolution. Speaking of that match, am I the only one that gets a bad feeling that Triple-H is gonna win AGAIN? Seriously, he is the last person in the match I want to see win. I'm thinking the only reason they took the belt from him in the first place was so he could win it back and add another one to his tally of unimpressive title runs. The only good thing that would come from Triple H winning would be a WM showdown between him and Randy Orton or better yet, Batista.I think it's likely HHH will win as they just took it off him as a way to hype up the storyline a bit,Personally i think HBK would have took the title at Taboo if it hadn't been for the knee injury,Just to break things up a bit,But HHH is bound to be Champ at WM and drop the Belt to Randy,I wish they'd be a bit more creative but ive been watching for 15 years and RKO vs HHH is as certain as Hogan Vs Savage and Rock vs Austin

[Donnie Darko]

hmmm... maybe Cena will pull out a Royal Rumble win, letting him go for the Smackdown belt at WM and allowing Raw to set up a 3-way match between HHH, Orton, and Batista.

[Hunter Rider]

hmmm... maybe Cena will pull out a Royal Rumble win, letting him go for the Smackdown belt at WM and allowing Raw to set up a 3-way match between HHH, Orton, and Batista.
they did a 3-way last year with raw though so they probably won't do it again,I also think Randy will win the RR as no way out is a smackdown ppv and they can use it to set up their title match

[Donnie Darko]

yeah, Randy is definitely where my money would be if I was betting on it. I'm just trying to come up with other situations.

[Hunter Rider]

yeah, Randy is definitely where my money would be if I was betting on it. I'm just trying to come up with other situations.
Yeah i think it would be cool if they went with HHH vs Batista or Even Randy vs HBK but i think the other match is inevitable.
How do you feel about the SD title match for WM ?

[jackcool]

WM 21 is definitely HHH vs. Orton. They've been setting up the match since Summerslam. The entire feud will (hopefully) be culminated by WM 21. Then I really wouldn't be surprised if Orton fights against Batista for the heavyweight title.

On the SD side, Cena will probably be feuding with JBL for the title. But personally, I don't really like it much. I feel that Cena has regressed a bit from a year ago. I don't know if it's because he's gotten a bit stale, or that his raps have degenerated to nothing but poop and gay jokes, but he doesn't seem main event material anymore. I would rather see Guerrero or Booker T win the title at WM 21.

[GuardianofOa]

why is Raw so damn obvious? Shawn Michaels the frickin referee....No shat. And Mohammed Hassan is frickin awesome. If you don't like him, you're Unamerican... damn sheep of fans. If he is from The United States, then why are the dumb ass fans chanting USA to get him riled up? Remedial fans. All sheep I say. Anyway, he has one of the greatest gimmicks on wrestling right now; The Truth. Oh, and The Hurricane rules!

[3dman27]

The Hurricane rules!the man speaks the truth and that my friend is wassup withat
:thing:

[Donnie Darko]

Yeah i think it would be cool if they went with HHH vs Batista or Even Randy vs HBK but i think the other match is inevitable.
How do you feel about the SD title match for WM ?

Well, I'd like to see JBL vs Cena for the title. But, thinking about it, Kurt Angle makes a great champion, and I would love to see him with the belt. I like the JBL gimmick, but he's pretty bad in the ring. I love that he's a pretty legit heel champion now, always working things like the DQ rule. However, he is nothing compared to Angle. I'm just scared that taking the title away from JBL will take away any credibility he has as a big heel. We'll see.

[Jason Blood]

hmmm... maybe Cena will pull out a Royal Rumble win, letting him go for the Smackdown belt at WM and allowing Raw to set up a 3-way match between HHH, Orton, and Batista.

it's just going to be Orton Vs. HHH

people have been wanting that match for so long that if they threw in another person they would get pissed off

[WildChild]

the man speaks the truth and that my friend is wassup withat
:thing:
Hurricane is so under used,The man has hurripowers for godsake!

[WildChild]

it's just going to be Orton Vs. HHH

people have been wanting that match for so long that if they threw in another person they would get pissed off

It looks like Batista Vs. Triple H is gonna be a better feud, because this split is being done much better then the Randy Orton one was.They are letting it simmer the way they should have had the randy one insted of just out of nowere turning for the sake of shock value.Even though i liked the betrayle at the time i see it would have been better if it was done it the way batista is doing it now.

[Couchpotato-man]

Hurricane is so under used,The man has hurripowers for godsake!Hurricane is the man. What I don't understand is the last thing the WWE would want is for people to turn the channel when the guys like Hurricane show up on TV but at the same time when they use them they make no effort at all to make them seem important.

Glad they slowed down the Batista-HHH fued instead of rushing it ala HHH-RKO. I wish there were other fueds on Raw that was getting this type of slow paced build up (and I don't mean anything involving the name Schnitsky).

[jackcool]

It looks like Batista Vs. Triple H is gonna be a better feud, because this split is being done much better then the Randy Orton one was.They are letting it simmer the way they should have had the randy one insted of just out of nowere turning for the sake of shock value.Even though i liked the betrayle at the time i see it would have been better if it was done it the way batista is doing it now.

Yep. I'm liking how they're doing Batista's face turn much better than Orton's. With Batista, they're slowly doing it, slowly having the fans get on his side, so that eventually when he does turn, it'll go over huge. Reminds me a bit of when the Rock, Austin, and even Cena turned face. They slowly got fans to warm up to the character, and it necessitated a face turn. I didn't feel that way with Orton, however. There was a bit of fan support, but not that much for him to turn into a number 1 face. Maybe if they would've teased it for a few more months instead of just turning him straight away, it would've been better IMO.

[3dman27]

Hurricane is the man. What I don't understand is the last thing the WWE would want is for people to turn the channel when the guys like Hurricane show up on TV but at the same time when they use them they make no effort at all to make them seem important.

Glad they slowed down the Batista-HHH fued instead of rushing it ala HHH-RKO. I wish there were other fueds on Raw that was getting this type of slow paced build up (and I don't mean anything involving the name Schnitsky).i agree about hurri its too bad mr macmahon prefers his champs to be animated steroids[yeah, i know the term is ANABOLICsteroids] smaller more natural guys kick buttb better than the overly pumped up ones

[Hunter Rider]

your all right about Randy's face turn,but they rushed it as ratings were low and they needed to try and get a big new face on the show especially with HBK's injury.I still think Randy has done a good job and in the end will become the face wwe is hoping for.

as for hurricane i think they should move him to smackdown and get him in the cruiserweight division to shake things up.

[The Ghoul]

this whole thread has been about what people hate in wrestling. So I thought about getting more positive. So how about we do a top ten survey.

Top 10 favorite wrestliers of all time
10.Vampiro
09.Tommy Dreamer
08.Sabu
07.Mikey Whipwreck
06.Roddy Piper
05.New Jack
04.The Undertaker
03.Raven
02.Terry Funk
01.Mick Foley

Top 5 Favorite gimmicks
5. Doink
4. The Blue Meanie (& everything that went with it... I.E. bWo, Bluedust ect.)
3. in between Sting (from about 97-99) (by in between i mean, inbetween crue-cut & movie star lies crow rip-off)
4. Mankind
1. early Undertaker (90-99... esspecially 94-97)

Favorite style
Hardcore


Post yours!!!!

[Hunter Rider]

10)Tommy Dreamer
9)RVD
8)Undertaker
7)sting
6)chris Benoit
5)Bret Hart
4)HHH
3)Ric Flair
2)Mick foley
1)Shawn Michaels

[Donnie Darko]

this is gonna be really hard, considering some of the people that I loved at one point and hated at others (I used to love HHH like back in the DX days, but now he is my most hated). I'll give it a try, anyway. But, this may end up being in no particular order, we'll see. I'm sure I'll leave people off, but here goes.

Favorite wrestlers
10. Taz (ECW)
9. Chris Jericho
8. Sting
7. Hulk Hogan
6. Kevin Nash (in WWF and WCW NWO, he needs to let it go now)
5. Randy Savage
4. Owen Hart (and no, I'm not one of the millions who became an Owen Hart fan after he died)
3. Shawn Michaels
2. Bret Hart
1. Ric Flair

5 Favorite Tag-Teams
5. Road Warriors
4. Harlem Heat
3. Steiner Brothers
2. Dudley Boys (especially in ECW)
1. The Outsiders (WCW/NWO, not now in TNA)

5 Favorite Gimmicks
5. NWO
4. The Blue Blazer
3. Dudley Boys (all of them as brothers)
2. any time a "retired" wrestler wears a mask to hide his identity (Yellow Dog, Midnight Rider, Mr. America)
1. The Hurricane

[The Ghoul]

5 Favorite Tag-Teams
5. New Age Outlaws
4. The Gangstas
3. The Outsiders
2. The Dudleys
1. Cactus Jack & Mikey Whipwreck

Top 5 Favorite Stable group
5. nWo (black & white)
4. Dudleys (I think Big Dick Dudley is the greatest name in professional wrestling history)
3. j.O.b. squad (both ECW & it's small stint in WWF)
2. bWo
1. D-Generation X

[Nero_Ordin]

why does kevin nash always get injured when he tries to make a comeback and this was when he was with wwe. smackdown sucks why doesn't the wwe have all their wreslters all together because it become less entertaining.

[3dman27]

my faves
the hurricane and rosey
rvd
molly holly
trish stratus
torrie wilson
stacey keibler
lita
as i've said before i prefer female wrestlers
no offense to the man in green rosey or rvd

[Donnie Darko]

Top 5 Favorite Stable group
5. nWo (black & white)
4. Dudleys (I think Big Dick Dudley is the greatest name in professional wrestling history)
3. j.O.b. squad (both ECW & it's small stint in WWF)
2. bWo
1. D-Generation X

no Horsemen?

[WildChild]

your all right about Randy's face turn,but they rushed it as ratings were low and they needed to try and get a big new face on the show especially with HBK's injury.I still think Randy has done a good job and in the end will become the face wwe is hoping for.

as for hurricane i think they should move him to smackdown and get him in the cruiserweight division to shake things up.
I just don't like Randy as a face he is so much better as a heel it's crazy.The guy just has this cocky heel way about him that does not translate well to a face.When he cuts his face promos it seems to me everything he says is forced.I like Randy but he is much better as a heel IMO.

[Donnie Darko]

yeah, I loved Randy as a heel. I was really hoping he would make it as a career heel, or at least have a heel title run. He's just too marketable to not be a face I guess.

I forgot a favorite gimmick... the LWO (Latino World Order)!

[Hunter Rider]

At the moment the Randy face turn is still up for debate I wouldve like to see him have a run as a heel champ but i can see what wwe are thinking,They see him as the new Rock and Cena as the new Austin.
I'm begining to wonder if WWe are going to have a change of direction at WM as the HHH/Batista angle is building nicely and the crowd are getting into Batista and have had a chance to do so which they didn't with Randy
btw how do you guy's feel about Lesnar possibly coming back ?

[The Ghoul]

no Horsemen?

No, I know I am just knocking over the holy grail to some but, I am just not a Ric Flair fan. I love his mic work... that's about it. His matches are very predictable. "Tie up. hip toss... ect. takes you to the corner chops you get mad throw him to the corner chop him 3 time he does that rediculous thing where he steps 3 times then falls flat on his faces... ect. figure 4 a seeingly impossible move to reverse when all you have to do is turn on your stomache. wheither or not you turn on you stomache that will determine wheither you win or lose." And I never met the guy but from mick foley's autobiography & even his own, he seems like a ass-hole

[WildChild]

At the moment the Randy face turn is still up for debate I wouldve like to see him have a run as a heel champ but i can see what wwe are thinking,They see him as the new Rock and Cena as the new Austin.
I'm begining to wonder if WWe are going to have a change of direction at WM as the HHH/Batista angle is building nicely and the crowd are getting into Batista and have had a chance to do so which they didn't with Randy
btw how do you guy's feel about Lesnar possibly coming back ?

He would make an awsome Heel, The fans would be all over that guy.

[Hunter Rider]

He would make an awsome Heel, The fans would be all over that guy.
I agree he'd be used on SD but i would like to see him on raw against HBK and Batista

[Donnie Darko]

I would love Lesnar back on SD as a heel.

By the way, I never saw any... what were SD results from last week?

[Hunter Rider]

I would love Lesnar back on SD as a heel.

By the way, I never saw any... what were SD results from last week?
Cena beat Renee
Rvd and Rey beat eddie and booker
Funaki beat spike
JBL beat Shanon
Teddy anounced a 3 way for RR between Show,JBL and Kurt for the title and Taker vs Heidenreich In a casket match
btw does anyone else think Hiedenriech sucks and is a waste of Takers time ?

[Donnie Darko]

thanks, hunter

and yes, Hiedenriech sucks

[JINoside]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Woow, I hope others watched Batista vs Benoit just now. This was a pretty good match, woow. I really liked the way he countered the crossface. I tried to do that once and almost did; But it takes alot of strength to stand up with someone on your back from the ground up. All of their weights on your back. I also liked the Fisherman Suplex he did from the turnbuckle, i think thats a move thats Rarely done. For a minute though, i thought he was goin to do the Mexican Stretch Buster....

[Donnie Darko]

ok, so I just got hit with two predictions for New Years Revolution...
1. Kane will return in his mask, going back to being a monster and not just a jackass.
2. This one I hope doesn't happen, but it probably will... it's down to HHH and Batista in the Elimination Chamber. Then, damn it, HBK hits Batista with some Sweet Chin Music and counts the pin for HHH.

[Donnie Darko]

sorry to double post, but am I the only one that thought it was kinda ridiculous that no wrestlers came out to help JR when he was getting strangled?

[WildChild]

ok, so I just got hit with two predictions for New Years Revolution...
1. Kane will return in his mask, going back to being a monster and not just a jackass.
2. This one I hope doesn't happen, but it probably will... it's down to HHH and Batista in the Elimination Chamber. Then, damn it, HBK hits Batista with some Sweet Chin Music and counts the pin for HHH.
1.I don't think, so once the mask comes off it can't go back on because the mystique of whats underneath is lost.To me it would look weird and pointless he is not difigured as we were once told so why were a mask.It would be cool if snitsky like shot fire at Kanes face somehow then he could come back with the mask on.
2.The thought of this going down makes me sick.

Raw was insane tonite All the matches were great.Match of the night Randy Orton and Triple H, what a finish.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

RAW was great tonight....Batista is so over it's sick. I wonder what they're saving his face turn for, WM21 maybe? last I heard the main events for WM21 were going to be...

HHH VS Randy Orton....Assuming HHH would once again have the title

JBL VS Cena....Cena's WAY over, but he'd have to lose the US title between now and then, and then declare himself in the title game....a lot to do in 2 months.

I also heard a rumor that Orton would beat HHH for the title, and Cena would beat JBL thus making them both champions of their brands...THEN McMahon would hold another lottery draft where Orton would be drafted to Smackdown and Cena would be drafted to RAW setting up a whole new list of opponents for each of them.

I REALLY hope HHH doesn't walk out of this elimination chamber with the belt...come on wouldn't that make him the 100x champion by now?? but then again if he doesn't win the WM21 main event would turn.

I wonder how Batista fits into this, it's only a matter of time until he's champ.

[Donnie Darko]

ok, my prediction about Kane is definitely a no because he came out with it off tonight.

Also, I missed Raw from 10:40 til the end. I hate that I missed Orton vs HHH. What happened?

[The Techno Bat]

ok, my prediction about Kane is definitely a no because he came out with it off tonight.

Also, I missed Raw from 10:40 til the end. I hate that I missed Orton vs HHH. What happened?

towards the end of the match, HHH pulled the referee into Orton, knocking him out, everybody involved in the elimination chamber came out one by one, and fought with one another. HBK came down as an official, HHH and Orton went at it some more, bam RKO Randy Orton wins...

[Donnie Darko]

thanks, sounds good... now hopefully HHH won't win Sunday. I think it's safe to say that Benoit and Jericho have no chance at winning this match. I could be wrong, but it just seems like WWE hasn't pushed their runs at the belt enough for them to win. Sure, Benoit was kinda a co-winner in the title match that caused this Elimination Chamber, but I don't see him winning. It would be kinda anticlimatic. Here is my order for who I want to win...
1. Randy Orton (his last title reign was a joke, they really screwed him)
2. Edge (it's his time)
3. Batista (he may need a little more time to build it up, who knows, he's over enough)
4. Jericho
5. Benoit
6. HHH (please God no)

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I don't know why they made Benoit a belt warmer. The guy has paid his dues and I think he deserves a nice long title run....look at JBL he's had the belt for God knows how long and he probably won't drop it until WM21...why screw Benoit like that and only give it to him for a few months?

I honestly think Orton's first run was more of a "f**k you" to Brock Lesnar who was formerlly the youngest WWE champion.

Orton will probably win it at WM21 and have a nice 6 month reign as champ. It will be interesting to see who comes out ontop this Sunday...probably HHH.

[jackcool]

HHH will definitely walk away with the belt this Sunday. As much as I hate to say it, it's looking like that'll happen. If anybody but him wins it, I'll honestly be surprised. The question is, who will he fight against in Royal Rumble for the title? Edge? I've never liked heel vs heel matches to be honest. It really divides the fans a lot and leaves them confused about who to cheer for.

Batista will be champion....eventually. They've just been building up this guy so much, he could actually be the WWE's true answer to Bill Goldberg. I could definitely see him getting the belt earliest Summerslam, the latest Wrestlemania 22.

[Metamorpho1977]

1.I don't think, so once the mask comes off it can't go back on because the mystique of whats underneath is lost.To me it would look weird and pointless he is not difigured as we were once told so why were a mask.It would be cool if snitsky like shot fire at Kanes face somehow then he could come back with the mask on.

They did it with Rey Mysterio, he lost the mask back in WCW.

Orton will win Triple H is supposed to be going off soon to do the Conan movie, so he will be away for a while, so they'll start a Batista/Orton feud, which will be finished at Wrestlemania.

And don't hate me for this, but I hope Jerry Lawler beats the holy hell out of Mohammad this week. I mean really take this kid to school.

[Metamorpho1977]

Batista needs a better finisher than that sit down power bomb.

[Booker T]

What about the spinebuster? Arn Anderson used it to great effect for a couple of decades, and whilst he doesn't quite have the same snap to it, Batista's is still quite impressive.

[Metamorpho1977]

I've stated in the past that if they try to bring back the Horsemen, then Batista would be a good choice for the part of Enforcer of the Horsemen, and I think his spinebuster is almost as good as Arn's. With some work it would be an awesome finisher for him.

[WildChild]

I've stated in the past that if they try to bring back the Horsemen, then Batista would be a good choice for the part of Enforcer of the Horsemen, and I think his spinebuster is almost as good as Arn's. With some work it would be an awesome finisher for him.

Thats essentially what Evolution was and he was the enforcer of that group.And he does do a spinebuster,not as a finiser but he does use it in his matches all the time.I havent heard that the Conan movie would be filming anytime soon so I could see Triple H winning the title this Sunday.I normally can't stand Trips with the Belt but if it's so he can give it to Orton at Mania than I can grit my teeth and bare it.If anyone else walks out of the elimination Chamber the champ other then Triple H I will be surprised but i really don't want HBK to turn heel and help Triple H win.I do really hope after Mania there is a new Draft because the Balance in the shows is so off it's crazy, and Benoit and Jericho might go to a show were they will be utalized better then they currently are.They could be used on Smackdown badly!

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I don't think HHH is going anywhere before WM21...I doubt he'll walk away champion at WM, but he'll probably go into it as champ.

I hope Austin comes back in some capacity at WM21, wrestling just isn't the same without him around. Austin VS McMahon was the single greatest feud of all time.

[GuardianofOa]

Raw is still ridiculous. Smackdown isn't worth watchin without Heyman. I am upset that the cruisers get no action. I think Hurricane should seriously jump to SD to go for some gold, since they on't give him, yes give him, the IC belt. Screw Lesnar, Screw Goldberg. All I wanna say about that. Muhammed Hassan is for real. That guy rocks. I hope he never turns face amd I hope he never joins a faction, let alone a tag team. Maven should join Evolution since he's a putz and has no talent. Did anyone see Grenier or however you spell Sylvains name? he f'ed up bad on Raw! Made Benjamin look like a jackhole. And why did they ever break up him and Haas!? They were a great tag-team, especially the Team Angle era. They were very impressive imo. Cena should be shot, repeatedly. And that match between him and Jesus sucked. Not hardcore period. Booker and Guerrero is a pretty good team up for two guys who are pretty much washed up anymore. RVd needs a title, the title. Poor guy. Wasted talent, just like half the roster in WWE. is it me or is Trish the ugliest f'n chick ever? Nasty jawline, horrid breasts, and no talent to hold em up. Happy New Year.

[WildChild]

Raw is still ridiculous. Smackdown isn't worth watchin without Heyman. I am upset that the cruisers get no action. I think Hurricane should seriously jump to SD to go for some gold, since they on't give him, yes give him, the IC belt. Screw Lesnar, Screw Goldberg. All I wanna say about that. Muhammed Hassan is for real. That guy rocks. I hope he never turns face amd I hope he never joins a faction, let alone a tag team. Maven should join Evolution since he's a putz and has no talent. Did anyone see Grenier or however you spell Sylvains name? he f'ed up bad on Raw! Made Benjamin look like a jackhole. And why did they ever break up him and Haas!? They were a great tag-team, especially the Team Angle era. They were very impressive imo. Cena should be shot, repeatedly. And that match between him and Jesus sucked. Not hardcore period. Booker and Guerrero is a pretty good team up for two guys who are pretty much washed up anymore. RVd needs a title, the title. Poor guy. Wasted talent, just like half the roster in WWE. is it me or is Trish the ugliest f'n chick ever? Nasty jawline, horrid breasts, and no talent to hold em up. Happy New Year.
Eddie Gurrero washed up!? Trish ugly and no talent!? Trish is the easily the best female on the whole roster period.And Eddie is not washed up, the man can still put on great matches and is awsome on the mic it's just he has absolutly nothing to to on that craphole they call Smackdown! I hope your new years resolution is to get off what ever your smoking!:D But your right about Hassan that guy is a star.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

The best female on the roster? in terms of sheer talent Lita has her beat hands down...Lita actually WRESTLES, Trish just makes an attempt. As far as looks go I would say Stacy or Tori have her beat in that department. Hell I'd even say that new interview girl on RAW (the one who's boobs are waiting to pop out) is better than Trish. I don't think Trish is ugly, she's just not the best one.

[Hunter Rider]

Well the whole looks debate is subjective but the guy who said trish was ugly needs to get off the drugs.As for talent i find trish's wrestling,timing and mobility superior to Lita who has looked a bit stiff since returning,I actually looks wise really like christy as well but they are all hot except jackie who has nice bod but poor face,

btw i think there may be a shock coming in the booking for Mania

[WildChild]

The best female on the roster? in terms of sheer talent Lita has her beat hands down...Lita actually WRESTLES, Trish just makes an attempt. As far as looks go I would say Stacy or Tori have her beat in that department. Hell I'd even say that new interview girl on RAW (the one who's boobs are waiting to pop out) is better than Trish. I don't think Trish is ugly, she's just not the best one.

Trish is way better in ring and on the mic then Lita.Did you see when she tried that suicide dive a few raws ago against Trish she almost injured herself ......again.....her first match back!I cringe whenever I hear Lita's music hit because what is about to go down is never good.

[Hunter Rider]

Trish is way better in ring and on the mic then Lita.Did you see when she tried that suicide dive a few raws ago against Trish she almost injured herself ......again.....her first match back!I cringe whenever I hear Lita's music hit because what is about to go down is never good.
I think the injury has set her back but mic-wise Lita is terrible,I mean Trish isn't great but competent,Lita though especially during the baby angle was hopeless and unconvincing plus the promo where she announced Kane would be returning was excruciating IMO

[WildChild]

Heres a pic of Litas wrestling Prowess
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/pyroragazzo/lita.jpg

[WildChild]

I think the injury has set her back but mic-wise Lita is terrible,I mean Trish isn't great but competent,Lita though especially during the baby angle was hopeless and unconvincing plus the promo where she announced Kane would be returning was excruciating IMO
I think Trish is great on the mic did you see that walking kiss of death promo she did on Lita that was entertaning.

[WildChild]

Oh and Lita's acting prowess
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/pyroragazzo/crylita.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

I think Trish is great on the mic did you see that walking kiss of death promo she did on Lita that was entertaning.
best promo she's done;) ,like i say she's okay just not great IMO but in truth Steph set the bar high for female mic work IMO

[Donnie Darko]

Lita has the worst mic skills this side of Gene Snitsky.

[The Techno Bat]

ok, my prediction about Kane is definitely a no because he came out with it off tonight.

Also, I missed Raw from 10:40 til the end. I hate that I missed Orton vs HHH. What happened?

You should go to wwe.com and click on the highlights from Monday's show

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Heres a pic of Litas wrestling Prowess
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/pyroragazzo/lita.jpg

Maybe I'll dig up some pictures of that ever impressive 'chick kick' that Trish does. Honestly that is not only the dumbest name, but one of the lamest moves I've seen...that is until I saw Trish do that poor man's Matrix back bend. Anyone who honestly thinks she's dodging moves with that bend is either on drugs or doesn't know wrestling is staged. The person literally has to kick in slow motion in order for Trish do pull that absurd move off....it's pretty sad.

Lita is a WAY better wrestler, but I will agree that her mic skills are horrid. Lita pulls off moves that Trish couldn't even fathom doing (the backflip, hurricanrana...etc). Watching Trish wrestle is like watching a bunch of 12yr old kids 'play wrestle' it's entertaining at first, but then you just feel sorry for them. Lita, Victoria, and Molly Holly are easily the beast female WRESTLERS in the WWE.

Trish IS hot, but not the hottest.

[3dman27]

molly is the best lita gets more publicity from wwe becaues unlike nora greenwald[molly] she didn't come over from wcw :hyper:

[The Techno Bat]

I hate the ladies division, because it seems whoever has the strap is a dominating champion during there run, and every other lady is chop liver. Remember how dominating Victoria was when she was the champion? Now look at her, she is a dancing baffoon, where did that mean streak go that made her the success she was? Her Widow's Peak was by far the best finisher in the ladies division, and her old music rocked. (That song by T.a.T.u.) Now she is a joke.

Trish Stratus has always been a joke, especially with that weak ass finisher The Stratisfaction, that is the dumbest move ever, and I am surprised anybody jobs to that stupid super slow ass move!

[WildChild]

Maybe I'll dig up some pictures of that ever impressive 'chick kick' that Trish does. Honestly that is not only the dumbest name, but one of the lamest moves I've seen...that is until I saw Trish do that poor man's Matrix back bend. Anyone who honestly thinks she's dodging moves with that bend is either on drugs or doesn't know wrestling is staged. The person literally has to kick in slow motion in order for Trish do pull that absurd move off....it's pretty sad.

Lita is a WAY better wrestler, but I will agree that her mic skills are horrid. Lita pulls off moves that Trish couldn't even fathom doing (the backflip, hurricanrana...etc). Watching Trish wrestle is like watching a bunch of 12yr old kids 'play wrestle' it's entertaining at first, but then you just feel sorry for them. Lita, Victoria, and Molly Holly are easily the beast female WRESTLERS in the WWE.

Trish IS hot, but not the hottest.
At least she can pull off that kick without hurting herself or others.Lita Is honestly crap in ring every time in there there are at least 2 botched spots and 1 time she almost hurt herself or someone else.Every time she goes for those spot's that Trish can't go for the chances of her hurting HERSELF are about 50%.Trish dosen't do those moves because she knows there not safe for her to do,Lita dosent seem to care if she can do a spot well or not.Thats stupidity not talent.Most of the times Lita goes for the moonsault it sucks and sucks hard. Combine her lack of in ring talent and her horrid mic skills and you have one bad combination.Oh and very bad music.

But I will watch Lita closley for the next few time I see her to make sure i'm not off base, but i'm sure i'm not.Maby she has improved from what i remeber it has been awhile since I have seen her in regular action but I will pay close attention to her and Trish.

[Hunter Rider]

Well tha ladies debate aside LOL,I really think we might get a surprise with the elimintation chamber this sunday and the subsequent WM booking

[WildChild]

Well tha ladies debate aside LOL,I really think we might get a surprise with the elimintation chamber this sunday and the subsequent WM booking
I see Triple H winning period anything else would shock me.Common JERICHO!:D

[WildChild]

Oh and i'm liking this ladies debate alot.

[Hunter Rider]

I see Triple H winning period anything else would shock me.Common JERICHO!:D
well i think Randy may win and face HBK at WM with Randy turning heel again,i wasn't convinced by the crowd reactions for him on raw this week and if they put him against HHH at Mania i think wwe could end up with one of those embarrising moments where the crowd go for the heel,In the other big match i think it would be HHH vs Batista as they are building that rivalry brilliantly and it would be a shame not to follow through IMO

[WildChild]

well i think Randy may win and face HBK at WM with Randy turning heel again,i wasn't convinced by the crowd reactions for him on raw this week and if they put him against HHH at Mania i think wwe could end up with one of those embarrising moments where the crowd go for the heel,In the other big match i think it would be HHH vs Batista as they are building that rivalry brilliantly and it would be a shame not to follow through IMO
That would be great!But I would Randy to go full blown heel doing all kinds of greasy stuff to HBK.I would have Randy deal with HBK's case at mania though, then shake up the rosters as Orton as the heel cahmp and Cena as the face Champ.A build to Batista and Triple H for mania would be great.but I can't see Triple H allowing himself go into Mania without the belt. It would also be awsome if Chris Jericho would go back to being a heel and feud with someone good like Benoit.

[Hunter Rider]

That would be great!But I would Randy to go full blown heel doing all kinds of greasy stuff to HBK.I would have Randy deal with HBK's case at mania though, then shake up the rosters as Orton as the heel cahmp and Cena as the face Champ.A build to Batista and Triple H for mania would be great.but I can't see Triple H allowing himself go into Mania without the belt. It would also be awsome if Chris Jericho would go back to being a heel and feud with someone good like Benoit.
I agree a shake up is needed,HBK would go into the match expecting a mano0mano match and then Randy pulls the swurve,Personally i think the feud would last a couple more ppv's and then eventually we get Batista vs Randy.
I to have been fed up with jericho's "filler" role of late,it really pisses me off when i see some of the no-talent they are pushing.A heel turn and feud with Benoit would be cool.
btw your probably right about HHH as he has to much power but i am hoping wwe see's the bigger picture,plus why build the tesion between HHH and batista and then not follow through

[WildChild]

I agree a shake up is needed,HBK would go into the match expecting a mano0mano match and then Randy pulls the swurve,Personally i think the feud would last a couple more ppv's and then eventually we get Batista vs Randy.
I to have been fed up with jericho's "filler" role of late,it really pisses me off when i see some of the no-talent they are pushing.A heel turn and feud with Benoit would be cool.
btw your probably right about HHH as he has to much power but i am hoping wwe see's the bigger picture,plus why build the tesion between HHH and batista and then not follow through
They will follow through eventually on Batista and Triple H but I keep hearing the WWE is dead set on a Randy, Triple H main event at Mania.

[Hunter Rider]

They will follow through eventually on Batista and Triple H but I keep hearing the WWE is dead set on a Randy, Triple H main event at Mania.
I know i'm just hoping for a surprise and bit of creativity:) :up:

[WildChild]

Yeah a suprise would be good.I can't belive I made made this thread 105 pages ago.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

At least she can pull off that kick without hurting herself or others.Lita Is honestly crap in ring every time in there there are at least 2 botched spots and 1 time she almost hurt herself or someone else.Every time she goes for those spot's that Trish can't go for the chances of her hurting HERSELF are about 50%.Trish dosen't do those moves because she knows there not safe for her to do,Lita dosent seem to care if she can do a spot well or not.Thats stupidity not talent.Most of the times Lita goes for the moonsault it sucks and sucks hard. Combine her lack of in ring talent and her horrid mic skills and you have one bad combination.Oh and very bad music.

But I will watch Lita closley for the next few time I see her to make sure i'm not off base, but i'm sure i'm not.Maby she has improved from what i remeber it has been awhile since I have seen her in regular action but I will pay close attention to her and Trish.

Forget watching Lita, you should watch Trish more carefully so you can see just how bad she really is. No wonder she doesn't do any high risk moves...she can't even pull off a kick! No matter who you like, you have to admit that the backbend she does is just ridiculous...I mean come on, what's next running up the side of the ring and doing flips?

When Lita broke her neck she wasn't wrestling, she was filming Dark Angel. To my knowledge she hasn't injured anyone with her moves. The other night when she took that dive was painful to watch but it doesn't mean she doesn't know what she's doing. If that were the case then are you going to tell me that HHH doesn't know how to run because he tore his quad muscle a few years back? I've seen some BAD falls watching wrestling (Lesnar's shooting star at WM19) but it doesn't mean the person is careless, it's an accident....those things happen.

Like I said before, watching Trish wrestle is like watching a bunch of kids play fight...it's fun at first but eventually you have to put a stop to it because someone's going to get hurt. Trish is eye candy plain and simple, she is NOT a wrestler and it's pretty aparent. Lita came from ECW, Trish came from being a fitness model...you tell me which one has more experience.

I still can't get over that name....'the chick kick' I want to punch myself in the face everytime they say that on RAW.

[DOG LIPS]

Here's my prediction:

None of the Elimination C. guys will win.... An old wrestler will come out of retirement, and at the last second, come in and beat the crap out of the remaining guys. Then he'll beat the hell out of Shawn Michaels. His return will be brutal and leave a lasting impression for the rest of the year as he hunts for the world title. He will have a huge fued with HHH, Orton, and HBK. I heard rumors he would return, and that his return would shock a whole pay-per-view. Warning! If you don't want to be spoiled, don't scroll down to find out who he is:































Doink The Clown.

[3dman27]

are you kidding?

[DOG LIPS]

are you kidding?
Yes... but I wish I wasn't. :( I miss Doink, and his dwarf-clown side-kick Dink. :(

[DOG LIPS]

http://www.derok.net/derek3/images/classics/wwf%20doinks.jpg

[GuardianofOa]

Michaels turns heel! Ha, that would be sweet. Batista has a decen shot, somehow better than Jericho or Edge, yet Edge has been gettin a lotta hype. HHH could walk out, should walk out as the champ. Randy and HHH at Mania. This PPV is gonna suck teste. Seriously. And why is Simon dean feuding with Rosey? They both have great talent, but prolly not with eachother. And I still hate watchin the chicks wrestle. Victoria actually has talent. No, she really does. All womens punches suck arse though. The women try so hard but I hate slow wrestling. No, seriously....



















Seriously.....















Ok, just wanted to have u look down here......Heh, I said down here.......SERIOUSLY THOUGH.....















TRISH SUX!

[Hunter Rider]

you need help and stop trolling

[jackcool]

Yes... but I wish I wasn't. :( I miss Doink, and his dwarf-clown side-kick Dink. :(

I've always liked evil Doink much better than good Doink. Evil Doink was cool as hell. I mean he destroyed Crush with that loaded arm. Brilliant! It was probably one of the coolest gimmicks ever. Then he turned good and brought in the 102910 midgets and the gimmick went to hell :(

And yeah, I wouldn't mind a Batista-Triple H main event in WM 21 as well, but the WWE's been planning an Orton-Triple H main event for like 2 years (it seems).

[3dman27]

batista wins the elimination chamber
lita retains her title
any more predections ?

[WildChild]

batista wins the elimination chamber
lita retains her title
any more predections ?
Triple H wins the Chamber
Shelton retains
Lita retains
Kane wins
Christian and tomko win tag belts
Simon Dean beats rosey(with help from hurricane!)

[The Techno Bat]

Maven wins the IC strap

Lita retains her title

Kane destroys Snitsky

Tomko & Christian win the tag straps

Simon Dean wins

Batista will probably eliminate HHH, but won't win the title. I think Jericho
walks out with the title.

And Muhammad Hassan beats Jerry Lawler

[The Techno Bat]

TNA Impact is on right now!

[3dman27]

Simon Dean beats rosey(with help from hurricane!)
wassup withthat?

[WildChild]

wassup withthat?
I'm just hoping they do somthing with Hurricane:(

[3dman27]

have him try training mighty mollyII molly could get simon deans help claiming she's a victim of identity theft

[Metamorpho1977]

The Abyss has left NWA:TNA rumor is he's heading to WWE.

[Donnie Darko]

As far as size goes, Abyss is gonna be a lot less impressive in WWE I think.

[The Techno Bat]

The Abyss has left NWA:TNA rumor is he's heading to WWE.

Abyss needs to bulk up a bit more and lose alittle more weight...He is very talented and I hope he does well in the WWE, but I wonder how they are going to play him there, because in TNA I always thought of him as a Kane/Mankind ripoff.

I have seen him listed as 6'10 350lbs so he is big, but I know how they exagerate wrestlers height and weight some times...

[BlackSymbiote]

No way. Abyss is one of the most agile big men I have ever seen. He was able to keep up with AJ Styles! Those matches were awesome. If Abyss did indeed leave TNA, I hope the WWE doesn't make him slow down. They already have enough big men who can't move any faster than a snail anyway.

[The Techno Bat]

I looked over at the NWA TNA website and Abyss's bio isn't up anymore.

[Donnie Darko]

no New Year's Revolution results yet?

[JINoside]

Spoilers:

http://www.impactwrestling.com/coverage.aspx

[WildChild]

Lita injured herself.

[Donnie Darko]

ok, I'm pissed

[SLYspyda]

i love the women's divison, they need to do more with it. they need to get victoria back to being a heel, i think she's awesome, one of the best finishers, period.

trish is #1 for me followed by stacy in looks. i wish they had that black girl, tracie, from WWE diva compeition on raw, it would've been nice, Stacy & Tracie, they're both tall hot girls without fake boobs.

i think they should also have some sort of championship belt on smackdown, like maybe "WWE Diva Champion". since most of them arent even wrestlers.

[zer00]

Spoilers:

http://www.impactwrestling.com/coverage.aspx



What The ****!!!!

[The Techno Bat]

Here is a play by play call of what happened in this match, my source is the WWE website:

ELIMINATION CHAMBER FOR THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Triple H vs Batista vs Y2J vs Chris Benoit vs Edge vs Randy Orton

Before the Elimination Chamber even got underway, Edge was seen in Eric Bischoff's office attempting to weasel his way out of the match. According to Edge, there was no way he could win the match with Shawn Michaels as the ref. He couldn't have been closer to the truth. After Edge apparently inadvertently Speared HBK, Michaels returned the favor with Sweet Chin Music. Chris Jericho then hit Edge with the Lionsault, which spelled the end for Edge.

Chris Benoit, who was one of the first participants in the Elimination Chamber along with Y2J, was the next to be eliminated. While on the mat in excruciating pain, Batista delivered a Spinebuster to Y2J right on top of the fallen Benoit. Batista then covered Benoit for the win.

Batista wasn't done there. His next victim was Jericho. Already bloody and battered, Y2J fell to a Batista Bomb.

With Edge, Benoit and Jericho all out of the Elimination Chamber, it was an all Evolution finals, as Batista and Triple are current members, while Randy Orton is now a former Evolution member.

Keeping true to his word, Batista worked well with Triple H, as both men decimated Orton. However, Orton did manage to muster up enough energy to catch an unsuspecting Batista with the RKO, which was followed by the pin.

In the end, it was a bloody Triple H dropping the Pedigree on Randy Orton. The win marked Triple H's 10th reign at the top. To celebrate, Batista held Triple H on his shoulders, while Ric Flair paraded around with his thumbs up.

[The Techno Bat]

WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP
Trish Stratus vs Lita

Lita and Trish Stratus have one of the most storied rivalries in the history of women's wrestling. Most recently, Lita defeated Trish for the Women's Championship on the Dec. 6 edition of Monday Night RAW.

At New Year's Revolution, the battle continued. This time, however, the decision went Stratus' way, as Trish dropped Lita for a count of three after hitting her with her patented Chick Kick.

Just prior to the pinfall, Lita attempted a Lou Thesz Press from the ring apron out to the arena floor. Unfortunately for Lita, the move resulted in an apparent injury to her left knee, leaving her as easy prey for Trish.

The win gave Trish a record sixth reign as Women's Champion

[The Techno Bat]

INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Shelton Benjamin vs Maven

With the sold-out crowd solidly against him, Maven threatened to not compete at all in this match. In fact, to further add insult to the crowd, Maven said that he would only face Shelton Benjamin on United States soil. As Maven started to walk back to the dressing room area, the referee began to count the challenger out. It was then that Maven had second thoughts. Finally, before the ref reached the count of 10, Maven ran back into the ring. The decision proved to be a poor one for Maven, as Benjamin quickly rolled up his challenger for the win.

Embarrassed, Maven challenged Benjamin to a rematch. Always the fighting champion, Benjamin complied. In even quicker fashion, however, Benjamin hit Maven with the T-Bone Suplex, picking up his secind win of the evening.

[The Techno Bat]

WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
William Regal & Eugene vs Christian & Tyson Tomko

The World Tag Team Championship kicked off the New Year's Revolution pay-per-view event. The challengers, Christian and Tyson Tomko, walked to the ring to a chorus of boos. However, the cheers the champions, Eugene and William Regal, received were just as boisterous.

Eugene, who was competing while wearing a T-shirt reminiscent of Hollywood Hogan circa 1985, suffered what appeared to be a horrible injury to his left knee. Despite competing on one leg, Eugene found the strength inside to roll up Tomko from behind for the win. As a result, Eugene and Regal retained their World Tag Team Championship.

[The Techno Bat]

Kane vs Gene Snitsky

With his wife, Lita, already injured from her match earlier in the night, Kane battled long-time rival Gene Snitsky in a powerful encounter.

Both men pulled out all the stops, including Snitsky biting Kane's ear, a la Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. While the ear biting seemed like a good idea to Snitsky, it actually appeared to enrage Kane. Not long after, Kane picked Snitsky up and dropped him with a Tombstone. A three count later, Kane was declared the winner.





Muhammad Hassan vs Jerry "The King" Lawler

In a rare pay-per-view in-ring appearance, Jerry "The King" Lawler was not only battling for himself, he was sticking up for the people of America. And with Jim Ross in his corner, the former AWA World Champion Lawler looked impressive.

Muhammad Hassan, however, had not only strength and youth on his side, but he also had Khosrow Daivari. After being distracted by outside interference by Daivari, Lawler was caught in a reverse Rock Bottom by Hassan. The impact proved to be enough, as Hassan picked up the win in his first-ever WWE pay-per-view match.

[The Techno Bat]

ABYSS GONE FROM TNA, WWE BOUND?
- Chris Park, the monster known as Abyss from Total Nonstop Action
Wrestling has quit the company after a contract screw-up from TNA
officials. Park's contract expired with the company and is rumored to
have looked for an alternative in the WWE. Quitting the company without
having a lock with WWE would have been a bit stupid from Park's side so
it is believed he is on the way to WWE. TNA issued a small press release
about Park to announce his departure from the company.

CARLITO'S SIDEKICK TO HAVE SURGERY
- Carlito's sidekick, Jesus, will be undergoing surgery after a CATSCAN
and an MRI revealed that he has a herniated 6/7 disc which is causing
nerve problems. This was announced on his official website at
JesusAguilera.com. The surgery is scheduled for January Monday 17th and
the doctors have told him he has a 90% chance of full recovery. Jesus -
real name Aaron Aguilera - will be out of action for around three
months. Not a nice way to start the new year!


source: Wrestling Online Newsletter

[WildChild]

Hassan with a reverse rock bottom I can't wait to see that move pulled off.

[The Techno Bat]

Hassan with a reverse rock bottom I can't wait to see that move pulled off.

I can't wait to see it either. I hope he has in ring action tonight, I am anxious to see him in action.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

BIG SURPRISE, HHH won the title! same old crap now, he has the belt, feuds with Orton which leads into a match at WM21 and then Orton beats him and we have a new champ. HHH has been in how many WM21 main events now? Is it really that hard to step down and let someone else have the spotlight? the last time Austin fought Rock that wasn't a main event match but it was still damn good (even though I was pissed Austin lost).

ANYONE else should've walked out as champ, WWE is recycling the same old tired storylines. I honestly wish Batista would've destroyed HHH but I guess they're saving that for later down the line.

[JINoside]

Ok, About the Hassan Lawler match i'm a bit confused on the finisher Hassan used. I didn't see the show so i went to Wrestling sites to get the scoop. 'WWE' says that he finished it with a Reverse Rockbottom(Wouldn't that basically be Jeff Jerrets 'The Stroke'? Except he picks you up a bit), 3 other sites say with an STO, 1 with a Reverse DDT, and 2 more say that he just got Decked and pinned. Which one is it?....

Oh and i agree on the HHH title thing, i would've even liked Edge walking out with the title than HHH!. Anybody except Randy and HHH. WM seems so......predictable....

[Agent Phoenix]

Amazing Impact is the Rock Bottom but the other person is in the opposite direction

The Stroke is a Front Russian Legsweep

it could also be The Flatliner (Kanyon's finisher (an inverted Rock Bottom/inverted legsweep))

[DOG LIPS]

HHH the champ again???? Ugh. ANYONE would have been better... and NEW. HHH has had the title too many times and for too long, this is quite dissapointing. If Orton and HHH is the main event at WM, it will be the worst thing they could do. Orton is already boring, HHH is getting old, and the two of them fighting for the title is even older. I miss the good ol' days when the title switched hands like every month to keep it exciting. :(

[JINoside]

Amazing Impact is the Rock Bottom but the other person is in the opposite direction

The Stroke is a Front Russian Legsweep

it could also be The Flatliner (Kanyon's finisher (an inverted Rock Bottom/inverted legsweep))

Oh Thanks for that clear up. Dam i wish i had a PS2, I would've just been able to put Smackdown 5 :p . Oh and i just saw his finisher. Didn't even look like the Rockbottom. I think its a Flatliner....

P.S..I would like to see Deivriari(sp?) wrestle. Am i the only one?.......

[Donnie Darko]

damn, I would really love to see HBK vs. Edge in a ladder match. Too bad neither one has a title.

[Docker2.0]

Wrestling is just plain crap now. Why I still even glance at it is beyond me. It is so predictable! Even the female matches, even though they are hard to turn away from, it is crap as well.

[DOG LIPS]

Wow!!! Orton beat Batista, and now he will face HHH for the title!! I didn't see that coming!!

:rolleyes:

[Docker2.0]

Yeah, they really should let someone else get the belt besides HHH. He is gettin to Old!! scratch that, he was old 10 years ago.

[Shifty]

Wrestling is just plain crap now. Why I still even glance at it is beyond me. It is so predictable! Even the female matches, even though they are hard to turn away from, it is crap as well.

It gets better when you don't pay attention, you don't miss it. I only checked to see if Vince gave the belt to HHH again. I did watch some of that Orton/HHH match last week on the RAW Replay on TSN but thats because nothing was on at 1230. But still no urge to tune in tonight.

[BlackSymbiote]

Amazing Impact is the Rock Bottom but the other person is in the opposite direction

Actually the Amazing Impact is a front face choke slam.

I think it's actually called the Amaze Impact though. Not totally sure.

[The Techno Bat]

It really is true what Randy Orton brought up months ago about Ric Flair isn't it? Flair is totally HHH's lap dog! ! ! I hate that Flair is treated this way and I think HHH is working his way towards Ric Flair's record because he has such a huge ego and Vince will probably allow his son in law HHH to win and lose the world title 18 or 19 more times just so he can pass Ric Flair...

[Nero_Ordin]

Yeah, they really should let someone else get the belt besides HHH. He is gettin to Old!! scratch that, he was old 10 years ago.

i argee because hhh is one of the reasons i thinking of not to watch wrestling. i wish nwa tna could be on cable instead of ppv.

[Donnie Darko]

I have an idea for WM22 (2006). We let the Flair as HHH's lapdog story keep going, but people keep planting the seed in Flair's head that he's too good for that. Eventually Flair gets fed up with it. A Flair-HHH feud begins to build after Flair explodes in the ring and kicks his ass during a promo or something. HHH talks trash about how he is the greatest ever, and he says Flair is a hasbeen and whatnot. We have to emphasize that HHH is saying he is the best EVER in the WWE. So, they schedule the match for WM. It will be Flair's last match. He will leave wrestling after this match. The match is a rough one, but Flair is getting the advantage. The ref goes down. HHH gets a chair or something. As he sets up Flair for the hit, someone jumps out of the crowd and takes the chair from behind. It's Steve Austin. This leads HHH to try to flee the ring, but everywhere he goes, he runs into a WWE legend blocking the way (Hogan, The Rock, Undertaker, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, whoever they can get). Eventually, it's all these legends surrounding the ring, and HHH is trapped in the ring with Flair. Flair gets the win. All the legends come in a hoist Flair in the air in celebration.

[WildChild]

I have an idea for WM22 (2006). We let the Flair as HHH's lapdog story keep going, but people keep planting the seed in Flair's head that he's too good for that. Eventually Flair gets fed up with it. A Flair-HHH feud begins to build after Flair explodes in the ring and kicks his ass during a promo or something. HHH talks trash about how he is the greatest ever, and he says Flair is a hasbeen and whatnot. We have to emphasize that HHH is saying he is the best EVER in the WWE. So, they schedule the match for WM. It will be Flair's last match. He will leave wrestling after this match. The match is a rough one, but Flair is getting the advantage. The ref goes down. HHH gets a chair or something. As he sets up Flair for the hit, someone jumps out of the crowd and takes the chair from behind. It's Steve Austin. This leads HHH to try to flee the ring, but everywhere he goes, he runs into a WWE legend blocking the way (Hogan, The Rock, Undertaker, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, whoever they can get). Eventually, it's all these legends surrounding the ring, and HHH is trapped in the ring with Flair. Flair gets the win. All the legends come in a hoist Flair in the air in celebration.
There is no way Bret Hart would do that with the beef those two have.And I think Flairs time has past he should not be wrestling anymore esspecialy at Wrestlemania.I don't like Triple H holding the belt any more then you guys but when he drops it at mania I want it to mean something and he better be out of the championship picture for a long long time(crosses finger's).I want this to be Triple H's last run with the belt for the entire years of 05 and some of 06.If Triple H retains the belt at mania the WWE will have officaly lost there minds,and I would be done watching them forever!

[The Techno Bat]

i i wish nwa tna could be on cable instead of ppv.
NWA TNA IMPACT is on cable every Friday Afteroon @ 4pm Fox Sport, and they re-run saturday at Midnight, you should check out your local listings for details...

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Wrestling will never be as good as the Austin VS McMahon days. That was the single greatest storyline/fued in WWE history. It's sad how they came up with such an original storyline and then have recycled it with every single good guy nowadays...Austin was the original badass.

Long story short....I miss Austin. He livened up the show like no one else.

[WildChild]

From ProWrestling.com:
As a bit of an update on the injury status of Eugene and Lita, it appears both WWE superstars will be requiring surgery to repair their injured knees. It is now known that Eugene ruptured his patella tendon, and Lita torn her ACL.

[The Techno Bat]

From ProWrestling.com:
As a bit of an update on the injury status of Eugene and Lita, it appears both WWE superstars will be requiring surgery to repair their injured knees. It is now known that Eugene ruptured his patella tendon, and Lita torn her ACL.

Speedy recovery....

[3dman27]

yes indeed
get well soon ms dumas,mr dinsmore

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Man that's harsh, both of them were doing so well it's ashame that they'll both be out of action for months now. It's especially sad for Lita because she just came back from an injury and she's pretty much been carrying the Woman's division.

Not a good way to start off '05

[3dman27]

quote [the animated] jackie chan
"no it is not"

[The Techno Bat]

That is why they should throw both of the brands back together, this way here you really wouldn't notice Lita or Eugene gone from Raw

[WildChild]

Man that's harsh, both of them were doing so well it's ashame that they'll both be out of action for months now. It's especially sad for Lita because she just came back from an injury and she's pretty much been carrying the Woman's division.

Not a good way to start off '05
:rolleyes: How can she carry the womens division when this has been her 2 match back.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Because unlike Trish she can actually wrestle. It's hard to get injured when you don't do anything except kick people and do silly backbends. Coach and Bischoff have better wrestling skills than Trish.

[The Techno Bat]

I think the WWE should bulk Christy Hemme up a bit and teach her to wrestle, she seems very athletic and might be able to mix it up a bit.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

She's very....energetic.

[3dman27]

wait a second what about MOLLY HOLLY?

[GuardianofOa]

Ok, so does anyone feel that they got ripped of at the PPV? I know I got ripped off. 30 bucks for that crap! Utterly disgusting! Two botched matches because of injuries, Shelton and Mavens match was fruckin gross. Just retarded. Two PPV's this month means more waste of money. did anyone think Batista was gonna win!? Hell no. And at the rumble, jeez, Orton vs HHH, well duh. But, Edge or Batista is gonna win the rumble meaning they will take on HHH or Orton at WM. How obvious. I bet Batista and Edge land at the same time then have a number one contenders match. Batista will win and face whoever at WM. This is so crappy. But you know a Raw guy has to win the Rumble, SD guy one it two years in a row..But Benoit jumped to Raw, so does that really count? Muhammed is the man, even if he isn't really Arab...I thought I knew him from somewhere. Mark Magnus from OVW, how could I be so blind!? and Shawn Davairi, he needs to wrestle too. Can't wait to see him in action, I bet he's crazy. Oh, and JR is not the man, neither is Lawler. horrible comentators. JR says the same crap every frickin Raw, then lalwer always has his damn puppies speech. Ick! SD better be good. or by God, I will just have to quit watching and watch real wrestling, TNA style.

[WildChild]

Because unlike Trish she can actually wrestle. It's hard to get injured when you don't do anything except kick people and do silly backbends. Coach and Bischoff have better wrestling skills than Trish.
She got injured trying to do a Lou Thez press!

[0neDisturbedSOB]

When's the last time you saw Trish attempt anything like that? watching her 'wrestle' is like reading a script...oh she dodged a move with the horrid looking backbend! oh wait now she's going for the 'chick kick'!...match over.

Lita at least is somewhat exciting to watch, she takes risks and does things none of the other women do. Trish basically does her excercise routine in the middle of the ring...EXACT same thing every single time.

Molly Holly, Lita, and Victoria are the only serious female wrestlers in the WWE. I hate to break it to you put a 'pillow fight' or an evening gown match is not real wrestling.

[The Techno Bat]

Ok, so does anyone feel that they got ripped of at the PPV? I know I got ripped off. 30 bucks for that crap! Utterly disgusting! Two botched matches because of injuries, Shelton and Mavens match was fruckin gross. Just retarded. Two PPV's this month means more waste of money. did anyone think Batista was gonna win!? Hell no. And at the rumble, jeez, Orton vs HHH, well duh. But, Edge or Batista is gonna win the rumble meaning they will take on HHH or Orton at WM. How obvious. I bet Batista and Edge land at the same time then have a number one contenders match. Batista will win and face whoever at WM. This is so crappy. But you know a Raw guy has to win the Rumble, SD guy one it two years in a row..But Benoit jumped to Raw, so does that really count? Muhammed is the man, even if he isn't really Arab...I thought I knew him from somewhere. Mark Magnus from OVW, how could I be so blind!? and Shawn Davairi, he needs to wrestle too. Can't wait to see him in action, I bet he's crazy. Oh, and JR is not the man, neither is Lawler. horrible comentators. JR says the same crap every frickin Raw, then lalwer always has his damn puppies speech. Ick! SD better be good. or by God, I will just have to quit watching and watch real wrestling, TNA style.

I agree with just about everything your saying, especailly the JR and The King...Taz and Micheal Cole are sooooooo much better.

One thing that JR says every week that p*sses me off big time is when say Batista walks out he says here is a young stud that stands about 6'5 or 6'6 weighs about 317 or 320 lbs, hey JR here is something you should do, seeing as you work with the man and see him every week, why don't you drag your dumb ass to the back and ask him how tall he is and how much he weighs. Better yet do it with every superstar because you say it about everybody! ! ! !

Replace them full time with Coach and Al Snow or rotate the Raw team weekly or something because JR and King are boring as hell!

[Nero_Ordin]

When's the last time you saw Trish attempt anything like that? watching her 'wrestle' is like reading a script...oh she dodged a move with the horrid looking backbend! oh wait now she's going for the 'chick kick'!...match over.

Lita at least is somewhat exciting to watch, she takes risks and does things none of the other women do. Trish basically does her excercise routine in the middle of the ring...EXACT same thing every single time.

Molly Holly, Lita, and Victoria are the only serious female wrestlers in the WWE. I hate to break it to you put a 'pillow fight' or an evening gown match is not real wrestling.

but it was entertaining for the five minutes it lasted.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

No I enjoy people like Torrie, Stacy, Maria, Christy and all those new girls in WWE but I would say that 98% of the women on the rosters cannot and should not wrestle. Lita, Victoria and Molly Holly are the exception.

Trish is NOT a wrestler, she's a fitness model...she's hot, but shouldn't be wrestling at all because it's really embarassing to watch her. It's a shame Lita is injured because now we're going to be stuck with Trish for the next 8 months. It's also a shame that Victoria's been broken down into a poor man's fly girl now....she was intense to watch.

[JINoside]

Um.....I agree, Trish really isn't a wrestler. Shes more of a Model type diva. But atleast she does fight. Shes not as technical as Victoria or Skilled as Molly or a Risk taker as Lita, but atleast she does something. She just has a pretty face, and she has a Huge fan club because of that. So because of that, i doubt she'll lose the title anytime soon. And yeah, its sad what Victorias become. She just....Dances to much. She still great to watch but....she use to be better. Sad what she turned into.....

[The Techno Bat]

HOGAN BACKSTAGE AT SMACKDOWN
- With Smackdown! tapings in Tampa, FL., resident Hulk Hogan made the
trip to the arena to say hello to some friends and probably talk to
McMahon since WrestleMania is just three months away. The two parties
split in 2003 after the Mr America angle involving the Hulkster failed
and problems over the WrestleMania XIX payout arose. Currently WWE are
in a lawsuit with Marvel over the use of the name 'Hulk Hogan' and
removed any references which include 'Hulk' on their WWE.COM website and
replaced them with Hollywood Hogan. The clearance of the name Hulk is
important for the WWE 24/7 project.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Um.....I agree, Trish really isn't a wrestler. Shes more of a Model type diva. But atleast she does fight. Shes not as technical as Victoria or Skilled as Molly or a Risk taker as Lita, but atleast she does something. She just has a pretty face, and she has a Huge fan club because of that. So because of that, i doubt she'll lose the title anytime soon. And yeah, its sad what Victorias become. She just....Dances to much. She still great to watch but....she use to be better. Sad what she turned into.....

I give Trish credit for attempting to wrestle, but my whole thing was that she's nowhere close to being in the same league as Molly, Lita and Victoria.

Victoria is sad now, her old gimmick with the 'tatu' music was cool....her finisher is awesome.

[GuardianofOa]

Wow, what a great Smackdown. No main event. Yay. No Heyman either. Bashams the champs again? What the hell? They could've at least gave it to Reigns and Jindrak (not that I would) but they're way better than the Bashams. But, it's Friday and that means TNA beeeyotches! Jericho needs to go to Smackdown, as well as Hurricane. Angle needs to jump to Raw, he and HHH have had some great matches and it'd b e nice to see someone rather than Orton or Edge takin turns, for chrissake, we need to mix it up a bit.

[WildChild]

I give Trish credit for attempting to wrestle, but my whole thing was that she's nowhere close to being in the same league as Molly, Lita and Victoria.

Victoria is sad now, her old gimmick with the 'tatu' music was cool....her finisher is awesome.
Trish owns the womens devision becuse she is the best all around performer.She can do promos, go in ring and she's sexy.If you think Trish can't wrestle and Lita can you need to get your eyes checked.

[Sabretooth]

Ahhh.It's been so long since I've been at the hype.:(


Anyway,WWE is pretty much down the crapper.JBL needs to drop that belt.BEFORE WM 21.He's already been champ for what,7 or 8 months? and Triple H is the 10 time. I hope WM 21 bombs and shows Vince use some new ideas. Randy Orton is boring as hell,and I hope Batista is in the main event at WM 21 and not Randy.

Also,I think Heidenreich needs to get his ass fired.I wish they would put Undertaker in the actual Royal Rumble.I want to see a confrontation between him and HBK in the Rumble.That would be awesome.

On a final note,Trish IS a bad wrestler.Chick kicks and backbends don't make a match a match.

[WildChild]

Am I the only one not on CRACK!

[The Techno Bat]

Regarding who is the best in the woman's division. I would say Victoria......but for some reason the wwe only has two main woman go at it, and everybody else in the division is nothing more than a jobber. Remember the physco version of Victoria? She owned everybody with that Widow's Peak, and then they ruined her with that new face gimmick, bring back the old Victoria! ! !

Hiedenrich s*cks and should never have been given a second chance when he was canned from Raw! But Vince has a huge hard on for the big guys. And speaking of big guys I would have JBL drop the strap to The Big Show, he is soooooo over right now.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Am I the only one not on CRACK!

Apparently not because you think Trish can wrestle....that's seriously funny.

She is nice to look at, and she can cut a good promo but her in ring skills (or lack thereof) or just sad. I honestly can't understand how you could compare her to people like Lita or Victoria in terms of WRESTING. What are Trish's moves? she pulls hair, she does the backbend and she does the 'chick kick'...WOW that's some arsenal of moves she's got going for her.

I agree with you that she is hot, and she does have mic skills, but I'd still say you're on something worse than crack if you think she's the best wrestler.

[Metamorpho1977]

Trish owns the womens devision becuse she is the best all around performer.She can do promos, go in ring and she's sexy.If you think Trish can't wrestle and Lita can you need to get your eyes checked.

Whatever you're smoking, ain't supposed to go in the pipe or the 1.5

[WildChild]

Apparently not because you think Trish can wrestle....that's seriously funny.

She is nice to look at, and she can cut a good promo but her in ring skills (or lack thereof) or just sad. I honestly can't understand how you could compare her to people like Lita or Victoria in terms of WRESTING. What are Trish's moves? she pulls hair, she does the backbend and she does the 'chick kick'...WOW that's some arsenal of moves she's got going for her.

I agree with you that she is hot, and she does have mic skills, but I'd still say you're on something worse than crack if you think she's the best wrestler.
I guess we will all just have to agree to disagree.We both have our opinions and I respect yours,even though i'm right and your wrong.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Funny, I feel the EXACT same way about you. I respect your opinion, even though it's obvious you're COMPLETELY wrong. Perhaps you should take your eyes off her boobs and watch her in the ring....you might realize what you've been saying all along is horribly incorrect.

Just a thought.

[Donnie Darko]

Wow, what a great Smackdown. No main event. Yay. No Heyman either. Bashams the champs again? What the hell? They could've at least gave it to Reigns and Jindrak (not that I would) but they're way better than the Bashams. But, it's Friday and that means TNA beeeyotches! Jericho needs to go to Smackdown, as well as Hurricane. Angle needs to jump to Raw, he and HHH have had some great matches and it'd b e nice to see someone rather than Orton or Edge takin turns, for chrissake, we need to mix it up a bit.

Angle vs HHH is really an odd way to go, once you think about it. You have one guy who puts on entertaining performances both in the ring and out, has a wide arsenal of moves, and got into the WWE based on his actual wrestling merits. Then you have a guy who is more annoying than entertaining, has 3 moves (one of which is a running knee strike), and is only around because he was a bodybuilder and is now married to the boss's daughter.

[Metamorpho1977]

New Jack Gets WWE Tryout; Flair In Another Backstage Fight
Story By: Matt Baker
Credit: PWTorch.com

New Jack apparently received an in-ring tryout in an empty
WWE arena with Val Venis prior to RAW this past Monday
night. WWE management had considered giving him one of the
dark match spots, but opted not to after reviewing his
workout with Venis. We should have more on this story later
on in the week.

Ric Flair got into a shouting match backstage at New Year's
Revolution this past Sunday night. Apparently, Flair was
upset with Puerto Rican promoter Victor Quinones for
misusage of his son David Flair in recent months, which
led to the two shouting at each other backstage at the pay-
per view.

[The Techno Bat]

New Jack Gets WWE Tryout; Flair In Another Backstage Fight
Story By: Matt Baker
Credit: PWTorch.com

New Jack apparently received an in-ring tryout in an empty
WWE arena with Val Venis prior to RAW this past Monday
night. WWE management had considered giving him one of the
dark match spots, but opted not to after reviewing his
workout with Venis. We should have more on this story later
on in the week.

Good New Jack S*cks anyway. Atleast the WWE is getting some things right, what a disaster that would have been signing New Jack!




Ric Flair got into a shouting match backstage at New Year's
Revolution this past Sunday night. Apparently, Flair was
upset with Puerto Rican promoter Victor Quinones for
misusage of his son David Flair in recent months, which
led to the two shouting at each other backstage at the pay-
per view.


WoOoOoOoOo! Good for The Nature Boy...I like it when Flair mixes it up backstage, I think people should show a bit more respect towards Flair anyway.

[Pink Ranger]

[font=garamond][size=3]WoOoOoOoOo! Good for The Nature Boy...I like it when Flair mixes it up backstage, I think people should show a bit more respect towards Flair anyway.

Showing respect for RIC Flair is one thing, but David Flair? Hahaha no. The only reason he's achieved the meagre progress he's made so far is his father's name. David Flair has no charisma, no mike skills, he's not a good worker and he's got no body or looks. There's no reason he should be a wrestler at all, and I doubt he'd make a good manager either.

[jackcool]

It would've been interesting if New Jack had actually signed. Apparently, if he signed, it would've been revealed that he was the one that stabbed John Cena in the nightclub, thus freeing Carlito and Jesus of that "crime". But man, imagine how much a New Jack-Cena match might suck.....

[The Techno Bat]

Showing respect for RIC Flair is one thing, but David Flair? Hahaha no. The only reason he's achieved the meagre progress he's made so far is his father's name. David Flair has no charisma, no mike skills, he's not a good worker and he's got no body or looks. There's no reason he should be a wrestler at all, and I doubt he'd make a good manager either.

I don't really care all that much for David Flair, I am all for Ric Flair mixing it up backstage and having respect shown towards him...

[Donnie Darko]

I'm sure the WWE would tame New Jack a lot. I mean, he would still get to do some crazy ****, but I doubt it would look as cool as the old ECW days. My uncle and I went to see ECW when they came to town one time, and he knew nothing about it, but loved WCW and WWF. When New Jack came out with the shopping cart and hit his opponent with a crock pot, it was the greatest moment of my uncle's life.

[jackcool]

Pretty much. That probably means no stapler gun :(

Hell, I bet even the barb-wire match that's set to take place in No Way Out is gonna suck a lot. Even more so because JBL and Big Show are gonna be the participants.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

The whole JBL Big Show feud is lame. Big Show is just not good as a face, especially that whole angle he has going with Joy...I mean come on. JBL needs to drop that title NOW but more than likely he won't lose it until WM21...I wonder to who though, I remember reading something that said Cena was going to get a main event push and challenge JBL for the title at WM, I seriously doubt it though.

Be interesting to see how he tricks out the WWE title like he did the US title.

[jackcool]

I agree, I don't like Big Show as a face. He was much better off before injury, when he was the big (pun intended) heel. But, Show is always switching back and forth between face and heel, so I expect him to turn in a little while. And despite everybody wishing it, JBL most definitely won't drop the title until WM21. THat probably makes him, like, one of the longest serving champions since 1996.....unless Triple H had a longer reign. But I'm thinking that all of Trip's reigns were like 3 or 4 months long and he's just had a ****load of them :confused:

[BlackSymbiote]

THat probably makes him, like, one of the longest serving champions since 1996.....

Somoa Joe in Ring of Honor just dropped the RoH World Title to Austin Aries after reigning for 21 months.

[3dman27]

i thought joanie lauer was legally barred from using the name chyna for wrestling purposes since the wwe owns that trademark

whe i saw E!news weekend last night i saw her on a segment about the series surreal life where she's appearing and they were calling her "chyna doll" same spelling
i smell a lawsuit coming up dont you?

[jackcool]

Somoa Joe in Ring of Honor just dropped the RoH World Title to Austin Aries after reigning for 21 months.

Whoops, I should've said in the WWF/E :confused: :(

[Hunter Rider]

HHH's longest title run was 9 months
JBL will keep the belt until WM21 as will the bashams:( at this point smackdown is so ****ed up that i have no clue who will take it off him.
I think that new jack will fight cena in a sort of street thug style feud and the barb wire cage may be for them.
I also think the Raw main event for WM21 will no longer be Orton vs the Game

[Donnie Darko]

hunter, who's that in your avatar?

[Hunter Rider]

angelina jolie:D

[3dman27]

angelina jolie:D
where's it from?

[Hunter Rider]

where's it from?

mr and mrs smith trailer:up:

[3dman27]

thanks

[jackcool]

I think that new jack will fight cena in a sort of street thug style feud and the barb wire cage may be for them.


That would be great if it were, but I think all signs point to a Big Show-JBL barb wire match, which is totally gonna suck. I mean a BS-JBL match is gonna be bad enough...but one in which the ring is encased in barb wire? Who's gonna pay 30-some dollars to see that?

[Hunter Rider]

That would be great if it were, but I think all signs point to a Big Show-JBL barb wire match, which is totally gonna suck. I mean a BS-JBL match is gonna be bad enough...but one in which the ring is encased in barb wire? Who's gonna pay 30-some dollars to see that?

very true,it's a waste of a good idea putting 2 guys who arent hardcore into that cage

[jackcool]

I mean I would even see an Angle-JBL barb-wire match over a Big Show-JBL match. Hell, I would even prefer a straight-up Angle-JBL feud for the WWE title. Then have Angle win the title before WM 21. Have Cena be the number 1 contender and then the match for WM 21 would be Cena vs Angle. A match that I would rather see than JBL-Cena.

[BlackSymbiote]

Whoops, I should've said in the WWF/E :confused: :(

Yeah, since Somoa Joe is a better wrestler than most of the WWE, and RoH is a much better fed.

[Hunter Rider]

according to this report here (http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=107916494)my theory on new jack vs cena may be right

[Donnie Darko]

ok, so everyone is alwas mad about RVD is mishandled. Here is my idea. If the whole Cena push for WM is true, have Cena win the belt, but drop the US title, like literally leave it in the ring after his WM celebration, or make him give it up the next week on Smackdown. So, there is a US title tourney that goes on for weeks. RVD builds momentum leading up to the tournament, and he wins the belt. However, as he celebrates his victory, he is attacked by someone wearing a hood or something. After the attack, the attacker shows his face... Sabu. RVD-Sabu feud for months, letting them showcase their old ECW skills, maybe culminating with a ladder match or something at Summerslam.

[Hunter Rider]

ok, so everyone is alwas mad about RVD is mishandled. Here is my idea. If the whole Cena push for WM is true, have Cena win the belt, but drop the US title, like literally leave it in the ring after his WM celebration, or make him give it up the next week on Smackdown. So, there is a US title tourney that goes on for weeks. RVD builds momentum leading up to the tournament, and he wins the belt. However, as he celebrates his victory, he is attacked by someone wearing a hood or something. After the attack, the attacker shows his face... Sabu. RVD-Sabu feud for months, letting them showcase their old ECW skills, maybe culminating with a ladder match or something at Summerslam.

that would be awesome,i loved there ECW matches.....sadly i doubt it will happen:( at the moment RVD is scheduled to be out for about 4 months
I actuallt don't think cena is gonna get the WM21 shot they arent pushing him at all at the moment it seems he'll still be defending the Us strap at mania

[Donnie Darko]

yeah, you're probably right

anyways, I want to see Angle get the belt

[WildChild]

Wait the WWE have a show that airs on thursday nights!?














Thats how long it's been since i've watched Smackdown! Which is a shame because it was so much better then raw for a long time now they have completly switced places and raws good and SD! sucks.

[jackcool]

ok, so everyone is alwas mad about RVD is mishandled. Here is my idea. If the whole Cena push for WM is true, have Cena win the belt, but drop the US title, like literally leave it in the ring after his WM celebration, or make him give it up the next week on Smackdown. So, there is a US title tourney that goes on for weeks. RVD builds momentum leading up to the tournament, and he wins the belt. However, as he celebrates his victory, he is attacked by someone wearing a hood or something. After the attack, the attacker shows his face... Sabu. RVD-Sabu feud for months, letting them showcase their old ECW skills, maybe culminating with a ladder match or something at Summerslam.

Isn't Sabu still in TNA? :confused:

And yeah, I wouldn't mind RVD getting the US title after Cena.....especially if they decide to get rid of that ****ing spinning title :mad:

[Captain_Obvious]

I watch wrestling on and off now...

is stone cold steve austin on??
*sniffs*

[3dman27]

that would be awesome,i loved there ECW matches.....sadly i doubt it will happen:( at the moment RVD is scheduled to be out for about 4 months
I actuallt don't think cena is gonna get the WM21 shot they arent pushing him at all at the moment it seems he'll still be defending the Us strap at mania after reading the spoiler at www.lordsofpain.net i thought rvd's "knee injury was just a plot device so he could do a movie role like cena's stabbing was

[Henry Hill]

I watch wrestling on and off now...

is stone cold steve austin on??
*sniffs*

Is that a serious question? I'll take a chance and answer it. Nope, he left a during the summer of 2004 if my memory serves me correctly.

@ everybody else

I find it depressing that Hunter Hearst Bignose is the champion again.:(

[Captain_Obvious]

Is that a serious question? I'll take a chance and answer it. Nope, he left a during the summer of 2004 if my memory serves me correctly.

@ everybody else

I find it depressing that Hunter Hearst Bignose is the champion again.:(

Yes it was serious...again, I haven't been viewing much or keeping up with the news...thanks :up:

[Henry Hill]

"Yes it was serious...again, I haven't been viewing much or keeping up with the news...thanks"

You're welcome.

[Sabretooth]

Can someone tell me what HBK was talking about?What happened 7 years ago? :confused:

[JINoside]

^Saber, Him and everybody else in that arena is reffering to the Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart match for the title. Funny, How i read an interesting article on it today. Very interesting. And hes not lying to when hes tried to apologize. But then again....thats bussiness......

BTW, Did ANNYBODY sense the Heat?:D. They should've send firemen to RAW. I knew something was up when i saw Shawns facial expression......

[Sabretooth]

^Saber, Him and everybody else in that arena is reffering to the Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart match for the title. Funny, How i read an interesting article on it today. Very interesting. And hes not lying to when hes tried to apologize. But then again....thats bussiness......

BTW, Did ANNYBODY sense the Heat?:D. They should've send firemen to RAW. I knew something was up when i saw Shawns facial expression......
Yeah,but what happened in the match?

[Henry Hill]

Yeah,but what happened in the match?

Hebner rang the bell when he wasn't supposed to because Vince told him to.

Here's a link: brethart.com

Just click what happened in Montreal and you'll hear everything you wanna know. Vince basically screwed Bret but I think Hart needs to get over it since he was being a little stubborn IMO.

[JINoside]

Or you could do that:o.....Whichever:o.....

Yeah,but what happened in the match?

Dam.....

Ok, Best i'll just show you the article that speaks on it amoung other things. You'll understand it. Its a pretty Long colum. So if you just want to get to the point, Scroll down the page till you see the Shawn vs Bret picture. Its a Great site by the way, best wrestling site i Ever been to......

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/columns/kirstyquested/03.html

[Donnie Darko]

man, I miss Bret Hart, and Owen Hart for that matter. I love talented wrestlers who aren't just muscle masses. That's what has been really good about tonight's Raw. I got to see HBK vs Christian AND Benoit vs Jericho. Good stuff. I mean, don't get me wrong, I really like Batista and damn it I love The Rock, but I like more "average" sized wrestlers better.

[Sabretooth]

Thanks guys.:)

[Sabretooth]

God, this ''The Masterpiece'' guy is gonna suck.


On another note, I wonder who Trish is sleeping with to be getting the women's title so much???

[Donnie Darko]

Did anyone hear what Snitsky asked Kane when they were down in the rubble? It was really one of the worst things I've seen since Ken Shamrock told Ryan Shamrock "slap me." Snitsky was supposed to be like unconscious, but he kept making all these goofy faces and was talking to Kane. What an idiot.

Also, how did that match get main event booking over Jericho vs Benoit?

[The Techno Bat]

Did anyone hear what Snitsky asked Kane when they were down in the rubble? It was really one of the worst things I've seen since Ken Shamrock told Ryan Shamrock "slap me." Snitsky was supposed to be like unconscious, but he kept making all these goofy faces and was talking to Kane. What an idiot.

Also, how did that match get main event booking over Jericho vs Benoit?

I heard Snitsky clear as day he was grinning and asked Kane if he was alright, and I thought I heard Kane ask the same of Snitsky. Horribly! The camera guys should have muffed the sound or something....

[The Techno Bat]

God, this ''The Masterpiece'' guy is gonna suck.


On another note, I wonder who Trish is sleeping with to be getting the women's title so much???


Besides being the only lady on the ladies Roster ( :rolleyes: ) I would guess Vince McMahon, they seem to do an aweful lot of skits together...

Is it just me or does Trish look like she had a nose job? Thus the explanation for the mask she was wearing for awhile?

[SLYspyda]

yeah, i don't know wtf kane and snitsky were smoking. didn't they know cameras would be on them the instant they crashed? same thing goes for last week, it took snitsky like 1 hr to come out there and hit kane with the chair.

about trish, c'mon now, give her the benefit of a doubt, maybe she's the women's champion because she's a super star? i'll have to check in from raw footage for that nose surgery thing.

lol, anyone see the "Triple H Fears Divorce" poster in the front row?

i really love the Muhhamed Hassan guy, he's definitely going places, they need to give him the Intercontinental Title

[3dman27]

Besides being the only lady on the ladies Roster ( :rolleyes: ) I would guess Vince McMahon, they seem to do an aweful lot of skits together...

Is it just me or does Trish look like she had a nose job? Thus the explanation for the mask she was wearing for awhile?
"only lady on the ladies roster," my foot

MOLLY HOLLY IS twice the lady AND wrestler than trish :hyper:

[Metamorpho1977]

also has anyone else noticed how cut and trim Trish has looked in the past couple of weeks, a few monthes ago, she was a bit soft in the mid section, but now she's really cut.

[Hunter Rider]

so it's not going to be Orton vs HHH at WM21..........

[SLYspyda]

nope, i think WWE has realized that Batista vs. HHH would make a better main event.

[Hunter Rider]

nope, i think WWE has realized that Batista vs. HHH would make a better main event.

I'm not so sure that'll happen either i think Randy may win and face siomeone else in the main event at WM21 and HHH vs Batista will be a straight up grudge match perhaps with austin as the ref

[Sabretooth]

Or it might be Orton vs. Batista for the title