Wrestling

[NDX]

What about the buildup to Piper's and Hart's IC title match at WrestleMania 7? Their interview with Mean Gene where it ended with them squaring off made that the match I wanted to see.

And how Hart scored the pin on Piper was classic. Never saw it coming. Still a personal favorite match of mine.

[Eric Draven]

How about when Mr. Perfect revealed himself to be Macho Man's Tag Team partner against Razor Ramon/Ric Flair? To see Mr. Perfect come out of retirement and hear the classic theme music was amazing.


That was surprising to me because I never thought Perfect would ever be a face. He was a heel for such a long time than when he turned, I didn't believe it at first...

[LastSunrise1981]

What about the buildup to Piper's and Hart's IC title match at WrestleMania 7? Their interview with Mean Gene where it ended with them squaring off made that the match I wanted to see.

And how Hart scored the pin on Piper was classic. Never saw it coming. Still a personal favorite match of mine.

Wrestlemania 8 my friend. ;) Wrestlemania 7 was the classic with Macho Man vs. Ultimate Warrior(Career Match) and Hogan vs. Sgt. Slaughter.

WM8 match with Hart getting busted open and having a gritty classic battle with Piper was and still is great. Love the match as it showed Piper could put on a great bout.

[NDX]

Wrestlemania 8 my friend. ;) Wrestlemania 7 was the classic with Macho Man vs. Ultimate Warrior(Career Match) and Hogan vs. Sgt. Slaughter.

WM8 match with Hart getting busted open and having a gritty classic battle with Piper was and still is great. Love the match as it showed Piper could put on a great bout.

Indeed, you are correct. I'm getting old, my memory is slipping.

I just saw a music video for Necro Butcher and I think I'm gonna vomit.

I wonder if there is a "Best Of" out there for him?

[Twitch]

Has Bret been busted open much in his career? :confused:

[Erzengel]

NO! I will not allow idiots like Erzengel and the Survivor n00bs enter this place!:mad:

Watch your back.

http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~kdc24/wedgie1.JPG

[Eric Draven]

Has Bret been busted open much in his career? :confused:

Not much during his WWE tenure. Blading was generally looked down upon at that time and if they were caught doing that, they risked punishment...



But I think he was busted open quite a bit during his time at Stampede Wrestling :confused:

[Sabretooth]

Nice Draven. I see you have told people of this place.:mad: :(

[Erzengel]

No genius. I did a search on my name for Survivor and this came up. Next time spell my name wrong if you don't want me stumbling into your sanctum.

Jackass. :p

[Sabretooth]

No genius. I did a search on my name for Survivor and this came up. Next time spell my name wrong if you don't want me stumbling into you sanctum.

Jackass. :p
Pffft. Why should I believe that when it's easier to just blame a Canadian? :confused: :rolleyes:

[Erzengel]

I can't argue with that. :o

[Eric Draven]

Nice Draven. I see you have told people of this place.:mad: :(

Like I told you multiple times, there would be different people here if I told people :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

Like I told you multiple times, there would be different people here if I told people :rolleyes:
Yes,but,you're a Survivor vet. Erz hosts this Survivor. You're also a special guest host. It adds up,Canada man.:mad:

[Eric Draven]

Whatever you say, FA 2.0 :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

Whatever you say, FA 2.0 :rolleyes:
This coming from Raven and Maven's lovechild.:rolleyes: :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Hey! :mad:

Burn the Canadian! :mad:

[Eric Draven]

This coming from Raven and Maven's lovechild.:rolleyes: :mad:

I'd rather be that than another FA :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

How am I FA? I'm not emo and I don't wear make up! :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

And he doesn't paint his nails black! :mad:

[Eric Draven]

Not yet.....

[Sabretooth]

And he doesn't paint his nails black! :mad:
That too. :o

[Sabretooth]

Alright,I've decided to start getting more on topic (cause when we get off people always blame me.:mad:) So what is there to talk about?



Hmm...I finished watching that Undertaker DVD the other day. Pretty cool. I never saw his match with trips at WM X-7 before,so I was like :eek:

[Eric Draven]

I hated that they dubbed over his theme music in that dvd :down

[The FallenAngel]

When he chokeslammed him over that railing. Awesome. :up:

[Sabretooth]

Oh,and I saw that dreadful match with Hogan. The most recent one where he won the title for the fourth time. I'm pretty sure they clipped that match quite a bit. They didn't show Hogan completely deadweighting Taker during the chokeslam,and didn't they trip up on the superplex?

[Eric Draven]

I never realized how good the Shawn-UT HITC match was until I saw that match on the dvd :confused:


And it was kind of funny how Mick Foley totally ****ed up when Paul Bearer was supposed to get burned in the face :o

[Sabretooth]

WWE.com removed Gunner Scott, The Bashams and Rene Dupree from the RAW and SmackDown! Superstars pages.

The Bashams have been working ECW house shows and will eventually appear on television.

Gunner Scott has been relocated back to developmental for more training.

Rene Dupree, according to PWInsider.com, will jump over to RAW brand at some point.

[Sarge 2.0]

Gunner needs to get more character

[Sarge 2.0]

I hated that they dubbed over his theme music in that dvd :downWhat music did he use at X-7? Cause the generic crap on the dvd sucked.

[Eric Draven]

What music did he use at X-7? Cause the generic crap on the dvd sucked.

The Rollin' one.

And yeah, the generic music sucked. I hate when they dub over the themes like that :down

[Sarge 2.0]

Ah. I still need to watch his first WM match with Kane on that dvd to see if they dubbed over O Fortuna.

Cause that is one badass entrance.

[NDX]

Ignore this post.

[Eric Draven]

Ah. I still need to watch his first WM match with Kane on that dvd to see if they dubbed over O Fortuna.

Cause that is one badass entrance.

I think they only dub licensed music. Hence the reason why stuff like Rollin' or Voodoo Child is always dubbed over :confused:



But then again, they dubbed over a lot of cool themes in the WM Anthology dvds. No Hard Time for the Boss Man or Slick Jive Bro :mad: :(

[Prognosticator]

Rene Dupree, according to PWInsider.com, will jump over to RAW brand at some point.

:down :down I can't stand him!

[Prognosticator]

Get toilet paper thrown at you. It started in ROH, and now wherever he goes it happens to him. Part of his gimmick.

From WWE.com:

The legend of all legends Hulk Hogan will be coming to Monday Night RAW. Last week, at Saturday Night’s Main Event, Hogan accepted a friendly challenge for SummerSlam against Randy Orton. However, later that night the Legend Killer showed his true colors when he hit the Hulkster with an unsuspecting RKO on the truck of his own car. Will Hogan be able to wait until SummerSlam to settle the score?

Well, that sucks.

I'm sure Hogan will continue to get pummeled by Orton....but if they're not careful, Hogan may show up at the wrong venue and get the pattended Cena half boo/cheer.

[The FallenAngel]

I'd love to see Hogan's expression if he came out and suddenly got a massive boo.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'd love to see Hogan's expression if he came out and suddenly got a massive boo.He got it in WCW when he was supposed to be a face, so I'm sure he wouldn't be totally heartbroken.

[Prognosticator]

I'm REEEEALLY Bored at work today!! Does anyone have any AWESOME favorite matches they can post, or link to pages on this thread w/the best matches??? I need something to do!!!!!

[Twitch]

Not much during his WWE tenure. Blading was generally looked down upon at that time and if they were caught doing that, they risked punishment...



But I think he was busted open quite a bit during his time at Stampede Wrestling :confused:

You're correct about stampede, I need to buy those two dvds I seen around on the net :up:

[NDX]

I think they only dub licensed music. Hence the reason why stuff like Rollin' or Voodoo Child is always dubbed over :confused:



But then again, they dubbed over a lot of cool themes in the WM Anthology dvds. No Hard Time for the Boss Man or Slick Jive Bro :mad: :(

Bossman and Slick had the best themes. And the Rougeau Bros and the Honky Tonk Man.

Why did the heels have the best music?

[The FallenAngel]

Because heels are the best.

[Sarge 2.0]

Dusty Rhodes music kicked ass, and he was a face.

[Eric Draven]

They changed up his music for the WM Anthology as well :(

[Sarge 2.0]

What the ****!? :(

I wonder if they left the music alone on individual WM dvds.

[The FallenAngel]

Saw this at another board, and I thought it would be an interesting thing to discuss. Vote one for each of the categories, spanning both WWE and TNA, since those are the most frequently watched around here.

Wrestler of the Half Year
Tag Team of the Half Year
Breakthrough Star of the Half Year
Most Improved Wrestler of the Half Year
Most Underrated Wrestler of the Half Year
Promo of the Half Year
Holy **** Moment of the Half Year (could be anything)
Show or PPV of the Half Year
Match of the Half Year

[nite-owl]

I'am sorry if this has been posted, it's the cover of the new wwe magazine

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/sharonGlen/trishwwemagazinecoverkd5.jpg

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh sweet lord. :eek:

My pants just exploded.

[Eric Draven]

What the ****!? :(

I wonder if they left the music alone on individual WM dvds.

On the ones they have 16-current, yeah. But 16-18 are currently "OOP" at the moment....:(


I don't think any individual dvds ever came out for WM 1-15 :confused:

[Sarge 2.0]

Saw this at another board, and I thought it would be an interesting thing to discuss. Vote one for each of the categories, spanning both WWE and TNA, since those are the most frequently watched around here.

Wrestler of the Half Year
Tag Team of the Half Year
Breakthrough Star of the Half Year
Most Improved Wrestler of the Half Year
Most Underrated Wrestler of the Half Year
Promo of the Half Year
Holy **** Moment of the Half Year (could be anything)
Show or PPV of the Half Year
Match of the Half Year

Wrestler of the Half Year: Samoa Joe
Tag Team of the Half Year: I would've said MNM but now I'm not sure
Breakthrough Star of the Half Year: Edge
Most Improved Wrestler of the Half Year: Edge
Most Underrated Wrestler of the Half Year: I can't think of anyone truly underrated
Promo of the Half Year: Any Foley promo
Holy **** Moment of the Half Year: Edge winning the title at NY Revolution
Show or PPV of the Half Year: TNA Final Resolution 06, probably one of the most well rounded PPV's this year. Pretty much every match on the card was a good one, or at the very least entertaining in some way. I can only think of two matches that I didn't like.
Match of the Half Year: Edge/Flair TLC

[Sarge 2.0]

On the ones they have 16-current, yeah. But 16-18 are currently "OOP" at the moment....:(


I don't think any individual dvds ever came out for WM 1-15 :confused:I know that they have VHS' for those early ones, so no worries about editing there.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah. But everything after that is going to have music and WWF logo edits :(

[NDX]

Dusty Rhodes music kicked ass, and he was a face.

You know what it was, it was that era of WWF music that just kicked ass in general. Almost all the songs from that time were unique to their characters and tend to stick in your mind.

Hell, I still hum Jake Roberts' theme every so often.

[Eric Draven]

Oh, Jake's theme was so badass. I even liked his "Trust Me" theme when he turned heel :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, very few house produced songs are actually memorable these days...I think Johnston is just getting lazy. :o

[NDX]

I think the combination of Johnston and Jimmy Hart was what made most of the tracks classic. The last thing that really stuck out to me from Johnston was Jericho's Break Down the Walls and Foley's Crash.

[Sarge 2.0]

Lesnar and Angle both have memorable themes, but yeah, other than that most house themes are pretty unremarkable post-2000.

[Eric Draven]

Gregory Helms theme is pretty badass :confused:

[NDX]

I'm not much of a fan of Helms' theme. Yes, Angle's theme is memorable, but that was also innitially made in 1998, and has since been modified to ****. Lesner was okay. At least it fit the character.

I must say, before Saliva got their hands on it, Batista's theme was always something worth listening too.

I miss taker's Ministry entrance theme.

[Eric Draven]

I just love the build-up in Helms' theme :up:


But it seems like these days, all themes are getting replaced with just a band playing rock music. I guess that's the way to go nowadays :confused:

[Sarge 2.0]

I'am sorry if this has been posted, it's the cover of the new wwe magazine

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/sharonGlen/trishwwemagazinecoverkd5.jpgI think we should be talking about this more. :up:

And it looks like WWE is readily acknowledging Orton's behavior. Weird. :confused:

[3dman27]

i was always partial to "eye of the hurricane" myself

[Sarge 2.0]

I just love the build-up in Helms' theme :up:


But it seems like these days, all themes are getting replaced with just a band playing rock music. I guess that's the way to go nowadays :confused:I've heard Helm's theme used as background music on both the History Channel and A&E, so I think the WWE aquired it from wherever those channels got it.

[NDX]

Generic themes just don't kick when it comes to your main eventers now, it seems. I don't know why, though. If the theme is made right, it will work.

Steve Austin, the Rock, Mick Foley, Chris Jericho, the Big Show before his recent theme change, they all worked. And if you look at the themes, they all have something in common. And unique opening.

Shattering glass; the crashing car; a countdown; a spoken phrase.

If other themes nowadays had that, we might not thing that Lashley's and Gymini's themes sound the same.

[NDX]

And it looks like WWE is readily acknowledging Orton's behavior. Weird. :confused:

I'm almost willing to purchase that issue to see if they go in depth on what Randy was doing.

[Eric Draven]

Generic themes just don't kick when it comes to your main eventers now, it seems. I don't know why, though. If the theme is made right, it will work.

Steve Austin, the Rock, Mick Foley, Chris Jericho, the Big Show before his recent theme change, they all worked. And if you look at the themes, they all have something in common. And unique opening.

Shattering glass; the crashing car; a countdown; a spoken phrase.

If other themes nowadays had that, we might not thing that Lashley's and Gymini's themes sound the same.

Yeah, the WWE usually does that with every main eventer. With Batista's, you can hear the opening riff that signals he's coming out. It gives that recognizability factor so that as soon as you hear the opening, you know it's that wrestler coming out.

[NDX]

Even midcarders have them, Carlito with his spit, Finlay announcing he loves to fight, Kennedy, well that one's obvious, Chavo had his female lead in at one point (another song I really enjoyed), hell, masters even had his painfully long intro, and their themes work for them. It should be done for more wrestlers who need that type of boost they need to make an impact with the crowd.

[Eric Draven]

I'm not a huge fan of Chavo's current theme. But it's only because I loved it when he used Eddie's WCW theme. That's one of my all-time favorites right there.

[NDX]

You mean when he was teaming with his father?

The web site known for offering visitors a variety of video footage include various pro wrestling videos is being used.

YouTube sued over copyright infringement
By Greg Sandoval, CNET News.com

Forward in EMAIL Format for PRINT ZDNet Tags: Digital rights management (DRM) Copyright Video Lawsuits
A journalist and well-known helicopter pilot in Los Angeles has filed suit against video-sharing site YouTube, claiming that it encouraged users to violate copyright law.

Robert Tur says video he shot of the beating of trucker Reginald Denny during the 1992 Los Angeles riots was posted at YouTube without his permission and viewed more than 1,000 times. Tur says in his lawsuit, filed Friday in U.S. District Court, that YouTube is profiting from his work while hurting his ability to license his video.

"Mr. Tur's lawsuit is without merit," YouTube said in a statement. "YouTube is a service provider that complies with all the provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), and therefore is entitled to the full protections of the safe harbor provisions of the Act."

Passed in 1998 to protect copyright holders from technology that facilitated piracy, the DMCA also offered protection to Web service providers by limiting their liability in cases where their customers were found guilty of copyright violation.

Those in the video-sharing sector have for months expected someone to challenge YouTube in court. The San Mateo, Calif.-based company lets users post videos to its site without prescreening them, and a staggering amount of copyright video exists on the site. YouTube prohibits the uploading of such material but has also benefited in the past when someone has posted a professionally made clip that catches fire with the public.

Earlier this year, a skit from "Saturday Night Live," called "Lazy Sunday" drew large audiences to YouTube's site and generated lots of media attention before the company pulled the clip at the request of NBC.

Since learning of Tur's suit, YouTube has removed his clip, the company said in its statement. Tur didn't ask that the company remove the clip prior to filing his suit, YouTube said.

Tur is asking the court for $150,000 per violation and an injunction barring any further use of his material.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah that one. I absolutely love that theme. It's too good not to be used at the moment by anyone :(

[Eric Draven]

Even looking at it, the WWE changed up a few WCW themes to have that air of recognizability as well:

-Ric Flair's legendary theme had a "WHOOOOOO" added to it.
-Booker T's theme had "Can you Dig it, Suck?" added
-Scott Steiner's had "Holla if you hear me" added

[NDX]

That is a good song, when he was using it and when Eddy was using it. One of the better songs in general.

Hopefully Chavo's hair will grow back already and come back to the ring.

[NDX]

Even looking at it, the WWE changed up a few WCW themes to have that air of recognizability as well:

-Ric Flair's legendary theme had a "WHOOOOOO" added to it.
-Booker T's theme had "Can you Dig it, Suck?" added
-Scott Steiner's had "Holla if you hear me" added

At least they still use Booker's Harlem Heat them, although I thought it worked fine with the normal intro. But the "Can you dig it, sucka?" is not a bad touch.

I never liked the "WHOOOOO!" before Flair's theme, that would be like adding an "OH YEAH!" in front of Savage's theme (which was another classic I enjoyed).

[The FallenAngel]

One of the most badass themes ever was the Brood's. It fit so perfectly with the gimmick. :up:

[NDX]

-ECW on Sci-Fi ratings break down as follows:

11:00 to 11:15 - 2.2
11:15 to 11:30 - 2.1
11:30 to 11:45 - 2.0
11:45 to 12:00 - 2.0
Overrun - 2.3

The overrun, which appears to be factored into the rating, pulled the rating up to the reported 2.2.

------------

-Many within the WWE, after the lower than expected ratings of Saturday Night's Main Event, realize that the show's rating may have dwindled due to the excessive amount of WWE material on television these days (RAW on Monday, ECW on Tuesday, and Smackdown on Friday).

[ Credit: Dave Scherer @ 1wrestling.com ]

[The FallenAngel]

Wow, even at that late a time, they pretty much kill TNA. Probably mostly due to the name.

[NDX]

Surprised the Undertaker didn't pull a better rating until the overrun.

[Eric Draven]

One of the most badass themes ever was the Brood's. It fit so perfectly with the gimmick. :up:

Yeah, that music was cool. The entrance was just as great as well :up:

[Eric Draven]

I just have to say this again, but "Hot-cha" :cool:


-- The Wrestling Observer reports that WWE scored a very strong TV deal for ECW in Canada.

The weekly show will air Friday nights at 11PM, with Saturday at 1PM and Sunday at 4AM re-runs on Global Television Network. The network is viewed as more high-profile than The Score, which will air RAW and SmackDown.

[NDX]

Dammit, you get reruns. Lucky ****.

[Eric Draven]

I'm glad for the Saturday afternoon rerun as well. That seems like the perfect time to watch the show :up:

[The FallenAngel]

Stop saying hot-cha. :mad:

[NDX]

At least next week's MSG Classics will get a rerun on Thursday afternoon. Looking forward to that show.

[Eric Draven]

Stop saying hot-cha. :mad:

I only hot-cha when I get extremely (hahaha) good news :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

I only hot-cha when I get extremely (hahaha) good news :mad:Oh, look, an attempt to be funny. Failure. :mad:

[Eric Draven]

Oh, look, an attempt to be funny. Failure. :mad:

You would know a lot about failing wouldn't you? :rolleyes: :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Yes. :(

[Eric Draven]

If only they could've played ECW on like Tuesdays, then I could've been able to see a different wrestling show during the weekdays :o




But that's if I had Spike TV as well :o


:(

[NDX]

Poor, poor Defcon.

So sad, yet so true.

[The FallenAngel]

Haha, Spike hates Canadians. :o




:(

[The FallenAngel]

Poor, poor Defcon.

So sad, yet so true.Who?

[Eric Draven]

Spike doesn't hate Canadians, they just hate my satellite provider :mad: :(

[NDX]

Maybe he was talking about Spike Dudley. Who knows who he hates.

[The FallenAngel]

Spike doesn't hate Canadians, they just hate my satellite provider :mad: :(Switch? :confused: :o

[Eric Draven]

Why would LSD hate Canadians though?

[Eric Draven]

Switch? :confused: :o

That seems like way to much work. And if that happens, I may not get ESPN Classics no more. Which means no more old-school TNA episodes on Wednesdays :mad: :(

[The FallenAngel]

That seems like way to much work. And if that happens, I may not get ESPN Classics no more. Which means no more old-school TNA episodes on Wednesdays :mad: :(Why would you want midgets and trashcans and...unless you like that stuff? :(

[The FallenAngel]

Anyone want the old WWE Themeaddict and Forceable Entry CDs for download? PM me.

[NDX]

Why would LSD hate Canadians though?

He's using his namesake?

[Eric Draven]

Why would you want midgets and trashcans and...unless you like that stuff? :(

Old-School TNA at the moment is at the point where they're setting up for Jarrett vs Hardy :confused:

[Eric Draven]

Anyone want the old WWE Themeaddict and Forceable Entry CDs for download? PM me.

What songs do those two have? :confused:

[NDX]

Anyone want the old WWE Themeaddict and Forceable Entry CDs for download? PM me.

The Themeaddict file was corrupt. Did it work for you?

[The FallenAngel]

Old-School TNA at the moment is at the point where they're setting up for Jarrett vs Hardy :confused:Oh joy. :o

[The FallenAngel]

What songs do those two have? :confused:I have no idea. :o

[The FallenAngel]

The Themeaddict file was corrupt. Did it work for you?Seems to be fine, I'm dling it now.

[Eric Draven]

Oh joy. :o

Plus, they have Kash vs Styles :up:


Although I cringed this week when Styles dressed up like the Truth :(

[NDX]

Could have happened when my connection died to the spontaneous thunderstorm.

[The FallenAngel]

Plus, they have Kash vs Styles :up:


Although I cringed this week when Styles dressed up like the Truth :(Don't wanna think about him dressed like that. :(

[NDX]

Plus, they have Kash vs Styles :up:


Although I cringed this week when Styles dressed up like the Truth :(

You should be taping these, and putting them on the computer for all of use to leech off of.

Except The Truth AJ Styles.

[Eric Draven]

And at that point, Alex Shelley was basically nothing more than Goldylocke's Boy Toy nicknamed "Huggy Bear" :confused:

[Eric Draven]

You should be taping these, and putting them on the computer for all of use to leech off of.

That would actually entitle me being computer literate. And non-lazy :o

[The FallenAngel]

You should be taping these, and putting them on the computer for all of use to leech off of.

Except The Truth AJ Styles.I second this motion! :mad:

[NDX]

That would actually entitle me being computer literate. And non-lazy :o

"Use a special box that takes the RCA hook-ups and converts them to a USB plug that the software can read and record. You can probably find better tech out there now (my vid capture stuff is several years old)."

Just going with what someone told me what to do, still trying to figure it out myself. Want to save some of my RF Vids.

[Eric Draven]

I dunno, I'll see :o

[NDX]

I dunno, I'll see :o

C'mon, you know you want to.

[The FallenAngel]

DO IT! :mad:

[Eric Draven]

It'll cost ya :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

*waves hand*

You shall do it for free.

[Eric Draven]

Pull the other leg :rolleyes:

[The FallenAngel]

...I don't know what that means. :mad:

[Eric Draven]

Just roll with it! :mad:

[NDX]

It'll cost ya :mad:

Hey, we're on good terms. Just send the footage to me.

[The FallenAngel]

Difficult. :mad:

Themeaddict only has a few good songs worth mentioning. Evolution, a great remix of Taker's, and Christian's. Everything else sucks.

[NDX]

Always loved Christian's themes since he went solo. TNA has not been able to catch the flare that Waterproof Blonde's theme had.

[The FallenAngel]

The in-house guy TNA uses doesn't really put out many good themes. Christian's isn't bad though.

[NDX]

There are not many. I like Abyss' theme the most of what has been produced for the company.

[The FallenAngel]

Forceable Entry has a lot of good ones on it. Raven's, Triple H's old Drowning Pool one, Austin's version when he was heel, and quite a few others.

[NDX]

FE was a great pickup. Most of the songs on it are good.

I believe the Cypress Hill track is ****ed up, well, at least the one I listened to.

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, it is.

[Sabretooth]

I'm not a huge fan of Chavo's current theme. But it's only because I loved it when he used Eddie's WCW theme. That's one of my all-time favorites right there.
Oh man. I loved that theme. Perfect heel music right there.:up:

[NDX]

source: Pro Wrestling Torch

- Kevin Von Erich was asked to be involved in an angle on Saturday Night's Main Event, but turned it down. He would have gotten some mic time had he agreed to the angle. Instead, he just came out and waved to the crowd during the event.

- Last week, Brooke and Hulk Hogan were in studio for an interview with a Dallas radio station promoting her new song (since they were in town for Saturday Night's Main Event). They were talking about her and Hulk being nominated for some People's Choice Awards, which will be given out Aug 20. Hulk said that he wouldn't be able to attend the awards show because he would be wrestling at Summerslam that night.

'ey, Hogan actually mentioned wrestling in public.

[Sabretooth]

To add on to an earlier subject,imagine how shocking it would've been if Bret Hart and Sting formed the nWo with Hall and Nash like WCW originally wanted?

[NDX]

Thanks to PWI for the following:


There's been a lot of talk internally in WWE about the dismal Saturday Night's Main Event rating. On a show when they gave the fans the return of Hulk Hogan and Batista's first match back from injury, the company expected to better last March's 3.1. Instead, they dropped a half of a point. Many people in the company realize that there is just too much first run wrestling on TV right now for SNME to mean what it did in the Nielsens 15 years ago. The business has changed and the concept of SNME just doesn't mean what it did back then.

On the other hand, I was told that both WWE and Sci Fi management were very happy with this week's 2.2 cable rating, given that the show aired an hour later than usual due to the two hour debut of "Eureka", Sci Fi's new series that preceded it. It's interesting to note in the quarter hours that the Undertaker's match didn't draw as well as you would expect, at least until the overrun. The show started at a 2.2, then dropped to a 2.1. The 10:30 and 10:45 quarters, the latter of which was the Taker vs. Big Show match, both drew a 2.0. The show would have done 2.1, which it did for the hour, except that the 2.3 overrun brought it up a tenth of a point. By comparison, the programming that was airing in ECW's slot before the show debuted was averaging less than a 1.0 so ECW on Sci Fi certainly seems like a success.

Christopher Read sent this one. ... I thought I'd shed a little insight as to how bad this deal with the Score channel is for us Canuck Raw fans. It's bad enough that it will be delayed an hour, but I am not sure you have seen the Scores presentation of all of their programming. The Score delivers a ticker at the bottom of the screen that is on through 100% of their programming, INCLUDING commercials. The most major drawback to that fact is that said ticker takes up close to 20% of the screen. I wouldn't be this adamant about it, but another problem lies in the fact that they don't chop off the bottom 20% of the picture, they compress the image, so all the wrestlers look fat and stubby. Way to go, WWE. No spin, no agenda, just some facts... Ratings in Canada will drop. I guarantee it.

[Eric Draven]

They're making that ticker out to be more than it should. I barely notice it when SD airs. And this deal is better because, despite the one hour delay, it's guaranteed that it'll be on the same time each Monday. Unlike what's going on right now where I can unexpectedly see Raw getting delayed every now and then, which pisses me off.

And now that Raw and SD are on the same channel, they're going to dedicate at least one hour each Sunday for analysis of how Canadian wrestlers do each week. I like the sounds of that :up:


Basically, that person sounds like he's nitpicking...:o

[NDX]

What the hell is happening on Smackdown? I'm stuck with watching the Yankees get crushed by you damn Canadians. (When the game is over I'll stop hating them.)

[Eric Draven]

Dunno, I watched SD last night and already forgot what happened :confused:

[NDX]

****er.

I hate you all.

(Only 1997 more to go.)

[The FallenAngel]

First hour of SD! was not bad at all. Good match between Kash and Kendrick. Very good match between Finlay and Lashley. I can do without this diva search crap. Never thought I'd be unhappy to see chicks dancing around on my tv, but...Miz ruins everything. :mad:

[LastSunrise1981]

To add on to an earlier subject,imagine how shocking it would've been if Bret Hart and Sting formed the nWo with Hall and Nash like WCW originally wanted?

I never knew that. I think it was just as shocking with Hogan though. Nobody knew he was the third man and he generated such massive heel heat.

But I think it would've ben cool to see Hart, Sting, Hall, and Nash form the nWo.

[NDX]

First hour of SD! was not bad at all. Good match between Kash and Kendrick. Very good match between Finlay and Lashley. I can do without this diva search crap. Never thought I'd be unhappy to see chicks dancing around on my tv, but...Miz ruins everything. :mad:

Thanks for the info. Did they have the Batista/Kennedy confrontation, or did they even say anything to one another?

[The FallenAngel]

Thanks for the info. Did they have the Batista/Kennedy confrontation, or did they even say anything to one another?I completely forgot about that. Kennedy came out and said he challenges Batista, who then came out and told Teddy to book the match. Kennedy put his hand out for Batista, but pulled it back when Batista tried to shake it. That's all that happened.

Also, not a bad match between Super Crazy and Psicosis just now. A few nice spots.

[The FallenAngel]

Awl Hail King Bookah! :mad::up:

[NDX]

Dammit! I'm missig the King!

This sucks.

****ing Yankees.

Losing too.

Bastards.

[The FallenAngel]

Watching the Yankees? King Booker would be ashamed of you. :mad:

[NDX]

What? It's what's on.

[The FallenAngel]

You should be watching King Booker! :mad:

Anyway, Booker/Rey was ok. Nothing particularly great, but it was fine.

[NDX]

I can't watch the ****ing show. Not till tomorrow.

Now I know what to look for and what not.

[The FallenAngel]

Excuses. The King does not listen to excuses. :mad:

[NDX]

King Booker can kiss my ass and like for all I care.

Yanks lost.

Mets kicking ass though.

[The FallenAngel]

Baseball=****s. :mad:

[NDX]

You may think that, but then again you're a complete failure. So who gives a **** what you think.

[The FallenAngel]

I'm not a complete failure. I fail only some things. :(

[NDX]

- Mike Johnson reports that Tough Enough 4 competitor and current WWE developmenatal wrestler Ryan Reeves has been suspended for 30 days for failing a drug test.

- from Chris Johnson: Canada's Slam! Wrestling is reporting that WWE's ECW brand will debut 8/11 on the Global Television Network at Midnight in Canada.

[NDX]

I'm not a complete failure. I fail only some things. :(

But that's already too much.

[NDX]

Sorry to triple post, but major PPV news.

Lashley Off PPV; Title Match Changed

From WWE.com:

As first reported on WWE Mobile Alerts, Bobby Lashley is unable to compete in this Sunday's Great American Bash. WWE physician Dr. Ferdinand Rios told WWE.com, "During his annual exam, Bobby Lashley was found to have elevated enzymes of the liver; therefore, he is not cleared to wrestle until further evaluation." As a result of this breaking news, the Triple Threat Match for the United States Championship at The Great American Bash has changed. U.S. Champion Finlay will now defend the gold against William Regal in a one-on-one match.

thanks to Devin Cutting

[LastSunrise1981]

Sorry to triple post, but major PPV news.

Lashley Off PPV; Title Match Changed

From WWE.com:

As first reported on WWE Mobile Alerts, Bobby Lashley is unable to compete in this Sunday's Great American Bash. WWE physician Dr. Ferdinand Rios told WWE.com, "During his annual exam, Bobby Lashley was found to have elevated enzymes of the liver; therefore, he is not cleared to wrestle until further evaluation." As a result of this breaking news, the Triple Threat Match for the United States Championship at The Great American Bash has changed. U.S. Champion Finlay will now defend the gold against William Regal in a one-on-one match.

thanks to Devin Cutting


Such a shame about Lashley. But I love watching Regal and Finlay have bouts. Their match at WCW Uncensored 95 or 96 is one of my favorite battles.

[Colossal Spoons]

The SD curse continues :(

[Sarge 2.0]

Goddamn. And Lashley could've used that match as a chance to gain some experience and show what he had against two veterans.

Oh well, Finlay/Regal has potential to be a classic, so I'm not complaining too much.

And as an aside, the card for GAB looks great right now, at least in my opinion. I'd even be interested in seeing the Punjabi Prison Match, just to see if it's actually something new, and not just a cage match with bells and whistles.

[The FallenAngel]

Too bad about Lashley. SD! is truly cursed.

But a one on one from Finlay and Regal? :eek: Awesome.

[LastSunrise1981]

I hope they give Finlay and Regal about a 15 or 20 minute match. However, knowing the retarded and short attention spanned Smackdown arena fans, they'll just start booing the match proclaiming it to be boring.

I'm going to watch their 95 Uncensored match now. :up: :)

[The FallenAngel]

Well...they gave Finlay and Benoit 20 minutes. But that is Benoit after all, and the fans like him more then both these guys.

[Sabretooth]

Sucks about Lashley,though honestly I'm kinda tired of how they continue to push him. He can use a break.

[NDX]

I'm going to watch their 95 Uncensored match now. :up: :)

Any way to share that match with the rest of us?

And they did give Benoit/Finlay from a few months ago 20 minutes, so this match could go the same length. I'm looking forward to their one on one as well, hope to see it. And hope to finally Benoit/Finlay eventually.

[NDX]

Found this on another forum:

It was earlier reported that the Spirit Squad will be broken up soon. While it's completely up in the air for most of the members, the future of Ken Doane looks very bright as management has high hopes for the twenty year old who they hope to mold into the next big superstar given his in-ring skill, look, and young age, mostly the latter two.

While Miz would appear to be completely messing up his time in the spotlight right now, WWE remains high on him due to his charisma and his connection with the women demographic and after the Diva Search is over, there is a big push in store for The Miz. While he is not currently wrestling nor has he on WWE TV yet, he is still actively wrestling in Ohio Valley Wrestling where he is in a program with CM Punk.

Credit to Bryce Yang: Bill Goldberg was on KROQ in Los Angeles to promote the MMA PPV this Saturday from the WFA organization. On wrestling, he said he didn't appreciate it before he got into it and he was one of those athletes who looked down upon it. However, he said he owes everything to people in WCW who made him, especially all the people who made him a star and put him over. He then said he owes everyone in the business for his success except for Vince McMahon whom he called "a piece of crap" and "a prick."

Partial Credit: Wrestling Observer & Pro Wrestling Torch

[The FallenAngel]

This is getting crazy.

From Meltzer's site:

The story is all being tied together regarding WWE's decisions today. The shows were canceled because Vince McMahon made the call early in the day that Big Show will replace Great Khali on Sunday, against The Undertaker, in the Punjabi Prison match. Khali also has a diseased liver and is expected to be taken off the road.

[Mister J]

WTF is going with SD! :confused:

Sweaty Beard, Lashley and now, something actually managed to fell The Great Garbler. :eek:
I was expecting Taker to knock him down on Sunday to see if he could actually get up without the assistance of a crane. :o :(

[Sabretooth]

No! NOT KHALI! NOOOOO! NO!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!





NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NONONONONONO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

It's weird, but honestly, the card for this PPV is looking really good, and could be one of the best this year for WWE if they let the right people shine. Show replacing Khali is good because he's been doing great lately, and can actually work. Not that I'd want anything bad to happen to Khali.

[Sarge 2.0]

This is getting crazy.

From Meltzer's site:

The story is all being tied together regarding WWE's decisions today. The shows were canceled because Vince McMahon made the call early in the day that Big Show will replace Great Khali on Sunday, against The Undertaker, in the Punjabi Prison match. Khali also has a diseased liver and is expected to be taken off the road.Holy crap. :eek:

It's sad to say, but people getting pulled from this PPV have actually made it better. 'Cause now it'll be Show and Taker inside some sort of cage.

[DOG LIPS]

...SD! is dead to me! :mad:

[Sarge 2.0]

This is all in response to DLRS!

Bring that back, and Khali comes back. :mad:

[The Batman]

ah ****!@

So Khali gets away with beating taker? And taker's not gonna kill anyone at GAB this year?

This sucks ass....

[Sabretooth]

Just watch. In about 6 months Miz is going to be the World Heavyweight Champ and Kenny is going to be the WWE Champ:(

[Sarge 2.0]

He'll kill Show, don't worry. :o

[The FallenAngel]

It'll probably just prolong the feud. Good thing they started the Taker/Show mini-feud, cause he fits in great.

[Mister J]

Just watch. In about 6 months Miz is going to be the World Heavyweight Champ and Kenny is going to be the WWE Champ:(
:eek::eek::eek:

*runs away screaming*

[Sabretooth]

Lashley out of the mix means we can have an absolutely wonderful match between Regal and Finlay. I don't have anything against Lashley and I hope he gets better,but the guy only has like 6 moves.

[Sabretooth]

:eek::eek::eek:

*runs away screaming*
HOO RA! :mad: :up:

[NDX]

Smackdown! is royally ****ed up. Just no luck on that program.

If Batista gets reinjured at GAB...

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, Lashley has been improving lately, but seriously, if they give this match time, it'll be kickass.

[Sabretooth]

Smackdown! is royally ****ed up. Just no luck on that program.

If Batista gets reinjured at GAB...
Haha. Spoons is going to cry.:(

Let's see...


Rey will probably be out for a few months and needs surgery
Mizark is out
Lashley is out
Khali is out
Benoit is out
Undertaker is mostly out


So that leaves,what? Batista,Booker,and Finlay???

[The FallenAngel]

They need to give the cruiserweights more time, and the tag teams. Regal should be used much more as well.

[DOG LIPS]

They have no choice....


Bring in...







The Miz.

[Sabretooth]

Oh man.:( Maybe Miz will screw up his lines some more and they'll just pair him and Masters together with Matt Striker as like their tutor.


Actually,that would be entertaining.:up:

[The FallenAngel]

Miz will be Tag Champ, U.S. Champ, and WHC all by himself soon. :(

[Hunter Rider]

I haven't seen any wrestling this week,did Lashley explode ?how long is he off ? and most importantly was my knowledge,observatory skills and wit missed ?:mad: :phttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[3dman27]

they have ONE CHOICE
CANCEL smackdown and relace it with a GOOD ECW

[The FallenAngel]

I haven't seen any wrestling this week,did Lashley explode ?how long is he off ? and most importantly was my knowledge,observatory skills and wit missed ?:mad: :phttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gifHe didn't explode. :mad: He has liver problems or something. No one knows yet. And no, you weren't missed. :mad:

[Sabretooth]

I haven't seen any wrestling this week,did Lashley explode ?how long is he off ? and most importantly was my knowledge,observatory skills and wit missed ?:mad: :phttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
Nope. Dunno. And hell no. :o :p

[Sabretooth]

they have ONE CHOICE
CANCEL smackdown and relace it with a GOOD ECW
NO! SD! will live on! You will enjoy the crap that SD! will become and you will want MORE.:mad:

[The FallenAngel]

they have ONE CHOICE
CANCEL smackdown and relace it with a GOOD ECWNo...they'll be just fine if they let the right people go out there and do their thing, and actually push all of the great talent they can use.

[Sabretooth]

No...they'll be just fine if they let the right people go out there and do their thing, and actually push all of the great talent they can use.
Like Miz and Test.:up:

[The FallenAngel]

Like Miz and Test.:up:Test is already being used in ECW. :rolleyes:

Miz sucks at everything. :rolleyes:

You must be high.

[Sabretooth]

Test is already being used in ECW. :rolleyes:

Miz sucks at everything. :rolleyes:

You must be high.
Test is coming to Smackdown because he's so great.:rolleyes:

Miz can stutter over his lines like no one else. That takes talent.:rolleyes:


You must be out of make up.:mad:

[Hunter Rider]

Bastards:mad: now i have no reason to check out SD,i thought for sure he had exploded mid ring:(

[The FallenAngel]

Test is coming to Smackdown because he's so great.:rolleyes:

Miz can stutter over his lines like no one else. That takes talent.:rolleyes:


You must be out of make up.:mad:Test is already involved in an angle with Dreamer. :rolleyes:

Triple H and HBK did that already. Miz is not as good as them. He fails. :rolleyes:

I have plenty. :mad:

[NDX]

Why the hell does everyone keep mentioning makeup in this thread?

[The FallenAngel]

Because they think that I wear it due to my emoness. :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

Test is already involved in an angle with Dreamer. :rolleyes:

Triple H and HBK did that already. Miz is not as good as them. He fails. :rolleyes:

I have plenty. :mad:
Shows how 'cool' HBK and HHH are mocking other people's mistakes. I guess they forget about a certain Curtain Call. :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Shows how 'cool' HBK and HHH are mocking other people's mistakes. I guess they forget about a certain Curtain Call. :mad:They can do whatever the hell they want. They're DX. :mad:

[Sabretooth]

They can do whatever the hell they want. They're DX. :mad:
No. They're 40 year old has beens who hold down talent!:mad:

[The FallenAngel]

No. They're 40 year old has beens who hold down talent!:mad:They can do whatever the hell they want! They're...DX! Yeah! :mad:

[Sabretooth]

They can do whatever the hell they want! They're...DX! Yeah! :mad:
Hahaha. I WIN. :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

The Miz is a dripping infected anus

[The FallenAngel]

Hahaha. I WIN. :mad:No! :(

[Sabretooth]

The Miz is the future of pro wrestling
Fixed.:o :mad:

[Sabretooth]

No! :(
By the by,Sephiroth is going dooooooooown. Hot cha!:unishr:

[The FallenAngel]

By the by,Sephiroth is going dooooooooown. Hot cha!:unishr:You need proper grammar to be able to fight with him. :o

[Sabretooth]

You need proper grammar to be able to fight with him. :o
Oh great. Another grammar nazi is storming the Hype! An EMO Nazi at that.:(

[NDX]

The Miz is a dripping infected anus

What the **** are you smoking, aye?

[The FallenAngel]

Oh great. Another grammar nazi is storming the Hype! An EMO Nazi at that.:(I'm not a nazi. :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

Fixed.:o :mad:
Your love of t3h ****ty is baffling Sabes:confused: :(

[Hunter Rider]

What the **** are you smoking, aye?

Scarlett Johansons' pubic hairs:up:

[Sabretooth]

I'm not a nazi. :mad:
Well,you are extremely racist. I wouldn't be suprised.:o



And besides,there was nothing wrong with my sentence.:o

[NDX]

Scarlett Johansons' pubic hairs:up:

What are you waiting for? Pass them over.

[The FallenAngel]

Well,you are extremely racist. I wouldn't be suprised.:o



And besides,there was nothing wrong with my sentence.:oYou're the racist around here. You're a nazi. :mad:

Everything was wrong with it. "By the by". Yeah. Down. That's how you spell it. :rolleyes::mad:

[Sabretooth]

Mike Johnson ( http://www.pwinsider.com ) reports that the match on Smackdown a few weeks back when Finlay defeated Bobby Lashley for the US Championship, was originally supposed to have a DQ finish according to the show's format and Lashley would have kept his title. When that format was changed and Finlay won, the locker room began speculating that Lashley may soon be pulled from the road. Yesterday, WWE announced that Lashley had been pulled from action due to increased liver enzymes. It is believed that Lashley's increased liver enzymes was found in their wellness testing propgram. According to atleast one medical source: enzyme increases in the liver can be brought on by a number of possible factors including excessive use of vitamin supplements and certain herbal supplements, certain medications (including certain anti-inflammatory drugs, cholesterol-lowering medications, antibiotics and anti-seizure medications), excessive drinking of alcohol, obesity, diabetes, or an infection brought about by certain diseases.

[Sabretooth]

You're the racist around here. You're a nazi. :mad:

Everything was wrong with it. "By the by". Yeah. Down. That's how you spell it. :rolleyes::mad:
Nothing wrong with 'by the by' I hear it used all the time. And all the o's in down were because of how I'm gonna own Sephiroth. Just like Steiner owned Joe with that table!:mad:

[NDX]

It's a crap shoot with Lashley, ain't it?

[Sabretooth]

Your love of t3h ****ty is baffling Sabes:confused: :(
:mad: :mad:





:(

[Hunter Rider]

Mike Johnson ( http://www.pwinsider.com ) reports that the match on Smackdown a few weeks back when Finlay defeated Bobby Lashley for the US Championship, was originally supposed to have a DQ finish according to the show's format and Lashley would have kept his title. When that format was changed and Finlay won, the locker room began speculating that Lashley may soon be pulled from the road. Yesterday, WWE announced that Lashley had been pulled from action due to increased liver enzymes. It is believed that Lashley's increased liver enzymes was found in their wellness testing propgram. According to atleast one medical source: enzyme increases in the liver can be brought on by a number of possible factors including excessive use of vitamin supplements and certain herbal supplements, certain medications (including certain anti-inflammatory drugs, cholesterol-lowering medications, antibiotics and anti-seizure medications), excessive drinking of alcohol, obesity, diabetes, or an infection brought about by certain diseases.

The Roids are melting his innards:(

[Hunter Rider]

What are you waiting for? Pass them over.

Your mistake is in thinking there is any left:(

[Sabretooth]

That explains his poor movement in the ring.:(

[The FallenAngel]

Nothing wrong with 'by the by' I hear it used all the time. And all the o's in down were because of how I'm gonna own Sephiroth. Just like Steiner owned Joe with that table!:mad:"By the by" is never used, ever. Maybe only from you Texans. :rolleyes:

You can't own Sephiroth. He owns you. And Joe didn't get owned. He got right up. More like how those steroids owned Steiner. :mad:

[Sabretooth]

"By the by" is never used, ever. Maybe only from you Texans. :rolleyes:

You can't own Sephiroth. He owns you. And Joe didn't get owned. He got right up. More like how those steroids owned Steiner. :mad:
Shut it,Wolfsbane.:mad:


And no,more like how the amount of french fries and cheeseburgers and little babies are gonna catch up to Joe!:mad:

[Sabretooth]

And really,who cares what you think is correct for grammar? You can't even pass biology or History! Hahahaha! :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Shut it,Wolfsbane.:mad:


And no,more like how the amount of french fries and cheeseburgers and little babies are gonna catch up to Joe!:mad:I'm not Wolfsbane. :mad:

Joe doesn't eat burgers and fries. :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

And really,who cares what you think is correct for grammar? You can't even pass biology or History! Hahahaha! :mad:I can pass them. I choose not to. :mad:

[Sabretooth]

I'm not Wolfsbane. :mad:

Joe doesn't eat burgers and fries. :mad:
Then explain the 20 happy meals placed under the ring at the last PPV. :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Then explain the 20 happy meals placed under the ring at the last PPV. :mad:All for that slob Kevin Nash. :mad:

[Sabretooth]

All for that slob Kevin Nash. :mad:
He does no such things! :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

He does no such things! :mad:So you think. :o

[Sabretooth]

So you think. :o
Shut up! Joe's a fat little bastard who's only undefeated because if he got pinned he couldn't get his ass back up. Much like a turtle when it's on it's shell!:mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Shut up! Joe's a fat little bastard who's only undefeated because if he got pinned he couldn't get his ass back up. Much like a turtle when it's on it's shell!:mad:Joe's gotten pinned before, and I seem to see him walking around every week. In fact, I've seen him hit amazing dives to the outside as well, something I've never seen those slobs Nash and Steiner do. :o

[Sabretooth]

Blah blahblahblahblhablha I can't heeeeeeeear you!!!! :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

Hahaha. I win. :o

[Sabretooth]

Hahaha. I win. :o
....Damn.:(

[NDX]

Your mistake is in thinking there is any left:(

You're lucky you're overseas. :mad: :(

[Hunter Rider]

Silence you spamwhores before i cyber slap you back to the womb:mad: :(

[Hunter Rider]

You're lucky you're overseas. :mad: :(
Greed for Scarlett's goodies is my undoing:(

[NDX]

Greed for Scarlett's goodies is my undoing:(

That goes for every male with a working libido.

[Eric Draven]

Man, the SD curse continues with Lashley....:(



But on a lighter note, I'm watching Royal Rumble 2003 at the moment, and right at the end of the Steiner vs. Triple H match, Steiner's pants come off a bit. You know what he had on underneath?



Purple panties :D

[Sabretooth]

*crickets*

[Eric Draven]

I'm serious though.....:confused:

[Sabretooth]

I'm serious though.....:confused:
Eh,doesn't matter anyway. I've said I don't like Steiner anymore. I'm the Sean O'Haire mark. SO haha,Steiner wears purple panties.

[Eric Draven]

Wow. Your Kevin Nash markness lasted so long.....:rolleyes:



At least I've kept constant with my Raven gimmick :mad:

[Sabretooth]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wBP8hfEHMeU&search=Steiner

[NDX]

Enjoy your bloated future, Draven.

Poor, bloated, halfway decent wrestler still Raven.

:(

[Eric Draven]

I will never get bloated. I will be what Raven should've been! :mad:

[Sabretooth]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=67KSJKM3OXA&search=Steiner


Holy crap :eek:

[Eric Draven]

I think Steiner was suspended for that promo...:confused: