Wrestling

[Sabretooth]

I think it could be an awesome moment if Randy Orton beat The Undertaker. Just think about it for a second, everybody is expecting Taker to win and he is loved by pretty much everybody (not me though, not a big taker fan.) But if he was too lose can you imagine the fan reaction at WM? It could get real ugly and make great tv, and have people tuning in to check out the Legend Killer. Especially if he beats Taker in such a cheap and bogus fashion, reclaiming his heel ways. The Undertaker has payed his dues and done alot for wrestling, but everybody needs to step aside and do what is right for the business and I think Orton beating Taker would be a good move in the long run.
Sorry man,but I'd hate for the (arguably)greatest winning streak ever to be destroyed by Mr.I-can-kick-out-of-your-finisher-no-matter-what

[Sabretooth]

playing the coward role too much could mean him wininng at wrestlemania. some of you guys can talk all the **** you want about triple H, but that guy has some great ****in mic skills, the last rant he made after batista signed the contract was awesome. and also, kurt angle's speech was awesome
I doubt HHH will retain just because of showing fear.From what I hear Batista and HHH get along great backstage,and I'm sure HHH would be willing to job to him.

[Kaleb]

remember how they built up booker T just before he faced hhh at wrestlemania a few yrs back , and how everyone thought he (booker T ) would win

[The Batman]

Sorry man,but I'd hate for the (arguably)greatest winning streak ever to be destroyed by Mr.I-can-kick-out-of-your-finisher-no-matter-what


Exactly.

It's just a bad idea. Orton can be built up without destroying taker.

[Sabretooth]

remember how they built up booker T just before he faced hhh at wrestlemania a few yrs back , and how everyone thought he (booker T ) would win
Actually,he was originally supposed to win,before HHH got involved.:o

[The Techno Bat]

Sorry man,but I'd hate for the (arguably)greatest winning streak ever to be destroyed by Mr.I-can-kick-out-of-your-finisher-no-matter-what

I hear you on the I can kick out of your finisher no matter what. I am so tired of that with Randy Orton doing that, he gets beat on for like five minutes straight and then pops up and hits the RKO.

But I want to see Taker lose just to see the fan reaction, can you picture the debris hitting the ring, a popcorn bucket, beer, an old ladies cane? I guess I don't really see it being that much of a big deal where I am not a huge Undertaker fan, so if he loses it's really nothing to me, sure he is 12-0 at WM's and perhaps he should have retired last year. The WWE really needs to get the young guys going if they are to carry the torch for years to come. Look at how iconic Hollywood Hogan was and all the energy he brought into WM 18 when he wrestled The Rock, both fan favorites, even though Hogan was NWO, but it was The Rock who was treated as the heel in that match, and everybody expected and wanted Hogan to win only to see The Rock get it, and I think the same thing will happen this year as Randy Orton hits like three RKO's and uses The Tombstone to dispose of yet another legend in the business!

[Hunter Rider]

I agree with techno,Taker is at the end of his career ,WWE need something to get Orton back over after they dropped the ball last year.This is most likely Taker's last mania,the class thing for him to do is make Orton famous.As for the whole kicking out of fineshers ,All the top faces do it,Rock,Austin.HBK and Taker himself and Batista will start doing it now,it's just how it works

[The Techno Bat]

remember how they built up booker T just before he faced hhh at wrestlemania a few yrs back , and how everyone thought he (booker T ) would winI thought it was a bad move at the time, but think about it now, would Booker T really have been that great as a WWE world champion? He was okay for the WCW and the only reason he was the WCW world champion was because they were in trouble and losing all there top talent and were just about to be sold. I don't really think Booker T could draw as much as HHH. No offense to Booker, he is great and all, but he lacks the mic skills needed in today's day if you can't really offer anything else other than a kick, punch, spinaroniee, chop, missle drop kick. That is all Booker has basically add that with his bad mic skills and he wouldn't be that great. Chris Benoit got away with it because he has the skills inside the ring.

[The Techno Bat]

I agree with techno,Taker is at the end of his career ,WWE need something to get Orton back over after they dropped the ball last year.This is most likely Taker's last mania,the class thing for him to do is make Orton famous.As for the whole kicking out of fineshers ,All the top faces do it,Rock,Austin.HBK and Taker himself and Batista will start doing it now,it's just how it works

Thank You! And I agree with what your saying as well they did drop the ball with Orton and something like this would put him back over...

Be back later off to watch Smackdown!

[Sabretooth]

I hear you on the I can kick out of your finisher no matter what. I am so tired of that with Randy Orton doing that, he gets beat on for like five minutes straight and then pops up and hits the RKO.

But I want to see Taker lose just to see the fan reaction, can you picture the debris hitting the ring, a popcorn bucket, beer, an old ladies cane? I guess I don't really see it being that much of a big deal where I am not a huge Undertaker fan, so if he loses it's really nothing to me, sure he is 12-0 at WM's and perhaps he should have retired last year. The WWE really needs to get the young guys going if they are to carry the torch for years to come. Look at how iconic Hollywood Hogan was and all the energy he brought into WM 18 when he wrestled The Rock, both fan favorites, even though Hogan was NWO, but it was The Rock who was treated as the heel in that match, and everybody expected and wanted Hogan to win only to see The Rock get it, and I think the same thing will happen this year as Randy Orton hits like three RKO's and uses The Tombstone to dispose of yet another legend in the business!
Still,I don't want Undertaker's name checked off on that list on the back of that Orton shirt he used to wear.:(


On another note,they're having some god damn basketball game,looks like I'll have to wait until like 11:00 for ****ing Smackdown :mad:

[Sabretooth]

Can someone tell me Orton's record at WM?Is he undefeated or what?

[Hunter Rider]

Can someone tell me Orton's record at WM?Is he undefeated or what?

I think Ortons only wrestled once at WM and that was alst years tag match where he pinned Mick Foley

[The Techno Bat]

Don't forget during the showing of The O.C. they are going to air the Star Wars III trailer.

[Sabretooth]

I think Ortons only wrestled once at WM and that was alst years tag match where he pinned Mick Foley
Hmm,if he is undefeated,I MIGHT not be that pissed about him winning.But still,I'm gonna be pissed if he makes an ******* out of 'Taker like he did to Christian that time and not selling moves.:mad:


Still,I think Kane deserves to beat Undertaker more than Orton,that guy has worked his ass off,had some of the worst feuds ever,but he's still there every damn week,and it wasn't his fault he got screwed and buried time after time.

[The Techno Bat]

Smackdown notes:

Good Riddance to that piece of trash spinning US title belt, I think it is great that JBL burned it! And they have brought back the nice looking us title belt.

[Hunter Rider]

Well i think Orton and Taker will put on a classic,both need this match,Orton to get his career back on track and Taker wants his likely last wrestlemania match to be remembered.

[Sabretooth]

I ****ing hate UPN.Every now and then they put on these gay ass basketball games that no one watches.Gahhhhhhhhhhh!:mad:

[The Techno Bat]

Orton vs Taker is going to be a great match, especially if Taker goes out there and puts in 110% and goes out in style, even though he I hope he losses to Orton, and the RKO!

I don't understand why UPN does that, the wwe has a contract with them and they should take top billing, I think they should re-air the dumb College Basket Ball game. But I feel you dude, because during the baseball season the prempt Smackdown every week practically with Red Sox games (not that I mind all that much, I am more of a cubs fan) I would rather watch wrestling! Why can't these games be shown on ESPN, aren't they the total sports station? And with Fox sports and other college sports stations I think there are plenty out there where they shouldn't prempt wrestling

[Eric Draven]

Smackdown notes:

Good Riddance to that piece of trash spinning US title belt, I think it is great that JBL burned it! And they have brought back the nice looking us title belt.

Yep.


Oh, and didn't Kurt Angle's promo during his invitational kick so much ass? Who wants to bet how out-of-shape Marty Janetty has gotten :eek: :D

[Eric Draven]

Hmm,if he is undefeated,I MIGHT not be that pissed about him winning.But still,I'm gonna be pissed if he makes an ******* out of 'Taker like he did to Christian that time and not selling moves.:mad:


Still,I think Kane deserves to beat Undertaker more than Orton,that guy has worked his ass off,had some of the worst feuds ever,but he's still there every damn week,and it wasn't his fault he got screwed and buried time after time.

Screw Kane beating Undertaker, I'd rather see Kane get a good title reign for once. None of that one-day reign in which he only had to cut open Stone Cold bull****! :mad:

[The Techno Bat]

Yep.Oh, and didn't Kurt Angle's promo during his invitational kick so much ass? Who wants to bet how out-of-shape Marty Janetty has gotten :eek: :DI can't wait to see them roll out ol Marty Janetty next week. BWAAAAA HA HA HA ! ! I am surprised they are bringing him back in with his drug problem (cocaine) or did he finally kick that habit?
Kurt Angle is great on the microphone! Too bad he and Shawn couldn't be on the same show so they could fire back and forth with one another, because HBK isn't too shabby on the mic either. Remember Kurt Angle when he came out with the milk truck, and sprayed everybody in the ring with Milk? That was great.


Screw Kane beating Undertaker, I'd rather see Kane get a good title reign for once. None of that one-day reign in which he only had to cut open Stone Cold bull****! Kane definately deserves a long title run, whether it be the IC strap, tag strap or better yet the World Title, which he is better suited for. If Batista beats HHH at WM and Kane challenges for the world title, I hope that they can step it up from there much debunked feud from a year or so ago.

[Sabretooth]

DAMMIT!Down here they're gonna be showing Smackdown! on Saturday at 7 PM!


WTF this is ****ing bull**** **** **** **** **** I ****ing hate your ****ing lazy asses UPN **** **** ****!!!!!!!!:mad:

[GLfan]

WWE Programming To Leave Spike TV
Submitted by Daniel Pena on Thursday, March 10, 2005 at 8:47 PM EST


Spike TV has officially announced via a press release that negotiations between Viacom and WWE have ceased in regards to renewing a new contract.

It is widely believed that Raw and all the weekend programs will now be returning to the USA Network starting in September as TNT, TBS and FX have shown no interest in the WWE.

"After several months of negotiations, we have decided to end our discussions about extending our relationship with WWE beyond September 2005," wrote Spike TV in a press release. "Moving forward, Spike TV will expand its investments in original programming and new acquisitions for its core audience."

So once again, WWE is officially leaving Spike TV and more than likely returning to the USA Network, their previous home for over 15 years.

[3dman27]

I agree with techno,Taker is at the end of his career ,WWE need something to get Orton back over after they dropped the ball last year.This is most likely Taker's last mania,the class thing for him to do is make Orton famous.
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OHHHH YEEESSSSS

[3dman27]

I ****ing hate UPN.Every now and then they put on these gay ass basketball games that no one watches.Gahhhhhhhhhhh!:mad:
doesen't the wwe put a note on the smackdown spoilers when certain UPN affiliates carry regional sports events in the smackdown timeslot saying when they will show it the used to do that why would they stop? btw the baskekball games are a local affiliate decision to make not UPN's :daredevil

[Metamorpho1977]

I thought it was a bad move at the time, but think about it now, would Booker T really have been that great as a WWE world champion? He was okay for the WCW and the only reason he was the WCW world champion was because they were in trouble and losing all there top talent and were just about to be sold. I don't really think Booker T could draw as much as HHH. No offense to Booker, he is great and all, but he lacks the mic skills needed in today's day if you can't really offer anything else other than a kick, punch, spinaroniee, chop, missle drop kick. That is all Booker has basically add that with his bad mic skills and he wouldn't be that great. Chris Benoit got away with it because he has the skills inside the ring.

They need to bring back Stevie Ray and the Harlem Hangover finisher that Booker T used to do. Last time I saw that was during his match with Big Show.

[The Techno Bat]

They need to bring back Stevie Ray and the Harlem Hangover finisher that Booker T used to do. Last time I saw that was during his match with Big Show.

I remember when Booker T did that to The Big Show, which PPV was that again? I forget, but it was a sweet move to see again, it had been a long time. Seeing The Harlem Heat back together would be cool, but Stevie is older and last time I saw him in wCw he was moving around the ring so slowly, he was getting booed. I think his time has passed....

I wonder if they are going to pursue the feud between Booker T & John Hiedenrich and add them to WM 21. I hope not because I think there feud has run it's course and after last night, I really do hope it is done. Booker T looks like he is slowing down a bit as well, he has to be close to 40 now. I think he needs to either step it up and make some of his moves more realistic, like he hit some weak ass side kick on Hiedenrich that was not believeable, or switch up to some different moves that he can pull off.

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ and PWT


This may come as a shock to some of you, but the prank Randy Orton played on Rochelle backstage at RAW a few weeks ago was simply put - disgusting. Randy got a hold of the bag and put his own fescues in it, ruining just about everything she had.

We're also told that on the flight back from Japan, Randy poured a Bloody Marry all over Amy Weber which upset her quite a bit.

Randy is known backstage as a womanizer and there is currently a ton of heat on him for his childish antics. This is also part of the reason he's not in the spot where Batista is right now. WWE management thinks he is very immature and really needs to clean up his act before they go any further with him.

sounds like Orton has a lot of growing up to do,maybe Taker shouldn't put him over after all

[The Batman]

Yes! Maybe thats the reason he's facing Taker. Taker's known as a locker room leader, and maybe orton needs a good ass whupping.

I heard Orton put feces in some girls bag...

[Sabretooth]

Orton needs to grow a sack.After hearing that,I want Undertaker to kick his immature ass.

[Metamorpho1977]

when I was in band, I knew a guy who pissed on a trumpet player's mouthpiece. Later the trumpet player kept making weird faces while playing.

[The Techno Bat]

I didn't know that about Randy Orton, what a disgusting pig he should be left off the WM 21 card altogether.

[John Constantine]

From WZ and PWT


This may come as a shock to some of you, but the prank Randy Orton played on Rochelle backstage at RAW a few weeks ago was simply put - disgusting. Randy got a hold of the bag and put his own fescues in it, ruining just about everything she had.

We're also told that on the flight back from Japan, Randy poured a Bloody Marry all over Amy Weber which upset her quite a bit.

Randy is known backstage as a womanizer and there is currently a ton of heat on him for his childish antics. This is also part of the reason he's not in the spot where Batista is right now. WWE management thinks he is very immature and really needs to clean up his act before they go any further with him.

sounds like Orton has a lot of growing up to do,maybe Taker shouldn't put him over after all

That sounds a lot like the stunts Scott Hall used to pull when he was in the WWE. I heard on one flight, he took a piece of feces as well, put it on a plate, and served it to either Sable or Sunny.

[3dman27]

ugh

[Metamorpho1977]

Sean Waltman Comments On Surreal Life Appearance
Story By: Matthew Boone
The following was sent exclusively to PWTORCH.com:

"I want to comment on the Surreal Life episode 7 in which
I appeared. First of all, I had no intention of even going
up to the house where they were filming the show. I had not
heard from Joanie since the morning she left, which was 6 or
7 days. We had been getting along very well at the time and
I was very sad that she was leaving for 13 days and she
promised me that she would keep in contact and we would even
see each other at some point during that time. So when I had
not even received a phone call, I decided to send her some
flowers.

When I went to deliver the flowers to her, the directors
asked me if I would like to bring them up and give them to
her myself. Obviously they did not tell her I would be
coming up and when I arrived, she was not too happy to see
me as everyone watching could tell. I was told that I could
only stay about 15 minutes by the directors, as they had to
get ready to shoot a movie or something the next morning.
After Joanie introduced me to everyone, she said "I'll show
you around the house."

As soon as we were away from everyone else, Joanie started
going off on me. At that point I figured it would be a good
idea to leave. However, Joanie said no and I followed her
outside to the pool. That whole part where she started going
off on me was edited out of the show. They showed us walking
out to the pool and then they edited out about the next 30
minutes or so of her antics and over-acting for the cameras.
Everything from her saying, "How much did you get for the
tape" - referring to the sex tape - to which I simply shut
her down by saying something like, "You mean the one you
told me you destroyed and then talked about selling on
Howard Stern while I was in rehab?"

She tried to accuse me in front of the cameras of abusing
her and I had to remind her that this has never happened
and that she struck me in the face several times breaking
my nose and destroyed my apartment, causing me to be
evicted, because she found out I slept with Jenna Jameson
four years prior to her and I getting together.

At that point the directors said I needed to go so they
could get back on schedule. I agreed and was ready to go
when Joanie started crying and saying she was sorry and she
loved me. It was Joanie who refused to let me leave and
wanted me to stay there with her. She knew that if she told
me not to go, that I would not leave unless the police came
and dragged me out in handcuffs. We were trying to calm her
down and one of the directors asked me if they could go get
the rest of the cast to come out . I thought it was a good
idea and said yes. When they came out, they were trying to
talk her into coming inside and it wasn't working. She kept
telling them to leave her be and started getting even more
upset. That's when I lost my temper and told everyone to
"back the F*** off".

Da'Brat seemed to take that like I was saying it directly to
her and disrespecting her. I immediately apologized several
times, but she wasn't hearing it. At one point I said some-
thing about taking her out of there with me. She agreed and
said she was going. They threatened some legal action and
asked why I would want to ruin her career. I think I said
something like, "This show isn't going to make or break her
career" and mentioned the fact that they had already
threatened to sue her before the show even started. I told
them that I would produce a doctor's note saying she was
mentally unstable at the time and that their contract
wouldn't mean sh--. I told them that after six or seven days
they had to realize this woman has some serious problems.
They agreed.

Joanie then got naked and went in the hot tub. I was going
to join her and was told I couldn't. If I did she would be
kicked out of the house. Finally she just went inside
without saying anything. I got really pissed off at that
point and I wasn't going to leave until she said it was
okay.

After about 20 minutes of me going off on everyone, they
said Joanie was coming out and that they were going to shoot
her and I saying good bye to each other. That's exactly what
happened and then I appologized to the production crew and
directors for losing my temper. I got in my truck and as I
was driving out a police cruiser was pulling up and stopped
me and asked me if I was "the boyfriend" that was causing
problems. Someone from the show told the officer that it
wasn't me and I left.

Before I left, I was given all the production phone numbers
and the direct line to the house. The phone call I made to
the house that Da"Brat answered was from about three days
later. I received a call from one of the directors saying
Joanie was in the house and it was a good time to call. So
I called and Da'Brat answered. When I ask for Joanie, she
told me Joanie was on a date with someone that treated her
well and not to call any more.

I don't really blame the other cast members for thinking I
must be an "abusive *******" as Jane (the lady from the
GoGo's) said. I'm sure Joanie told them the same things she
has tried to tell so many others about me. I do think it's
really lame for the producers of that show to not only edit
the footage to make me look as bad as possible, but to
actually call me and tell me to call the house so I could
be told my girlfriend (at the time) was on a date. I even
asked them before I left, "Please don't edit this to make
me look like a bigger ass than I already made myself look."

I guess maybe I was asking for it when I wrote the letter
to Midless Entertainment that was posted on my website
insinuating they were bottom feeders if they didn't want
to help Joanie with her problems.

If anyone from Mindless Entertainment would like to dispute
anything I have stated here, I challenge you to do so. If
you are honest with everyone, then there is no way you
possibly can.

Sean Waltman"

[Hunter Rider]

FROM WZ:looks like Kurt isnt retiring:up:





The following is a Byte This! interview cap with Kurt Angle written by Steven Fernandes:

Kurt Angle joins the show.

First thing, how's the neck holding up? His neck is doing fine. It's better now than it was two years ago, when he injured it. So he is going to be here for a long time. He is thankful that he got through it, because at one time Vince and he were talking about retirement and he wasn't having it. He feels great right now. He talks to his wife and his doctors and they say he is fine to wrestle. So he will stay in that ring as long as he is able to. Romero says that's good news for fans, but not his opponents.

Romero then brings up WrestleMania and him wrestling HBK for the first time. Angle says a lot of people have compared him and Shawn in many different ways, as far as being the best wrestlers in WWE as well as some of the best in history. He being technical and entertaining in every aspect, and Shawn having the greatest matches that Angle has ever seen. He says they've both had matches which will make people say that no one can match that. He mentions having matches with Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Brock Lesnar. He adds HBK having great matches last year and late 90's. He is looking forward to the match and says they both know that it is going to be a hell of a fight and could be considered one of the greatest matches of all time. He says they both have conflicting styles, but its going to be a great one.

Loyd brings up that people are expecting a lot from this match, so is there a lot of added pressure or do they know that they are both great wrestlers, and are going to have a tremendous match? He says besides having their issues last week, HBK and he will never touch each other till WM. He says a lot of people are in the ring with each other for years and have great matches, but he and HBK don't plan on touching each other till WM. He says this could be the first time, where two people are going in one of the main matches, and never having felt each other's styles before. He says you never know what to expect. He says if they were on the same show, they would have wrestled 15 times by now. He adds that there is pressure because fans are looking at this match much more than the championship matches as far as entertainment aspect goes and as far as a good wrestling match that you can get. He says a lot of people will say that when they both are healthy, they are the best ever. He feels it would be a great match. He would like for it to go down as greatest ever in history.

Romero brings up the "mental gymnastics" they've had trying to one-up each other, with HBK disguising himself as a cameraman last week. Angle said he will get back at him the next couple of weeks. He mentions saying on RAW that he is going to match or outdo everything that HBK has ever done, in 4 weeks. He wants to prove to HBK what's he's in for at WM. He says when HBK sees what he has in store, and what he can achieve, he'll have second thoughts about wrestling him at WM.

Loyd brings up the other matches at Wrestlemania. Angle says it's the best card he has been on so far. Loyd bring up Orton-Undertaker, and Triple H-Batista, adding the latter two haven't wrestled before either (well, neither have Orton and Undertaker). Angle says on televised events, they haven't. He isn't sure about un-televised events. But says they have been on TV together so they have a feel for each other. He brings up Cena vs. JBL, adding that he has beaten Cena 5 times in a row, and he finally got one over on him at No Way Out so he deserves to be in the main event. He says Cena has been red-hot, fans love him. He doesn't know if Bradshaw will be able to stop him, although he gives credit to him for being able to sneak away with victories every month. He hasn't seen a champion like that in a long time. He compares his championship run to the first time he himself was champion.

Romero asks if he has a prediction for the WWE title match. Angle says right now, JBL has a lot of pressure on him, and Cena is red-hot. Cena has a lot of momentum and nothing to lose. JBL has everything to lose. If Long tells JBL he cannot have his cabinet at ringside, then he sees Cena winning it, as much as he doesn't like him. He proved himself at No Way Out. He dominated him so much that he underestimated him. Angle jokes that he was dominating him so much that he could have a coffee break and he would be fine.

Email? if there was another draft lottery, would he want to go to RAW? And what other RAW superstars would he like to face? He says the GMs are smart. He adds that he is a top wrestler on both shows. He says the GMs have to be careful in who they pick. He give an example of himself being injured the last two years, but if you put him in a title match and wins the title, but injures his neck. What are you going to do? That title could stay at his house for 6 months. It wouldn't be good for business. (Well, Triple H would think differently if it happened to him.) So he says Kurt Angle has to prove that he is healthy enough to be in that run. So would Bischoff want to trade for him? He thinks so, since he has been healthy for eight months and has proven himself. Would he want to be traded? He has been the only wrestler not to have been traded or switch shows since the brand extension started. Does he think it's time for a change? They have a lot of young wrestlers coming up to Smackdown, so he doesn't need the change. The point is who needs him more. He is willing to go either way. He is not afraid of anybody on either show. He is willing to go up against Triple H or Batista. If that's the case, he's all for it. But he is enjoying wrestling the guys on Smackdown. He still hasn't wrestled The Undertaker. He might have had a match here and there, but hasn't had a big strong PPV with him in 4 years. He adds no one's been able to beat the Undertaker straight up, so he would like to be the first one to do that.

What is Angle's favorite WrestleMania moment? He says his favorite moment has nothing to do with him. He says the people in wrestling always portray wrestling as the "big guy always wins" His favorite moment was last year, seeing two guys like him, both under 5'10, being world champions. It showed to him that you could put guys against the Undertakers, the Triple Hs, the Stone Colds, Kurt Angles and they could win the world or WWE title. Even though he was jealous about it since he lost, to see Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero in the ring, having worked their butts off after having been told that they were "too small" to make it. That was his greatest WM moment?. Besides his matches obviously.

[Hunter Rider]

ANOTHER BIT fFROM WZ


-- There is major concern in some circles within TNA that WWE is waiting to raid them of most of their top X Division talent throughout the year, including AJ Styles. WWE does sense that TNA has potential to be competition at this point. Styles is most likely going to go anywhere that the money is, in the best interest of his family. So, TNA will have to probably match any offer made by WWE to keep him. Many feel that TNA uses the X Division talent much better than WWE could ever use them, and gives them more TV & PPV time than WWE could give them.

[3dman27]

i read today on www.lordsofpain.net that its now official, the wwe is leaving spike tv in september wouldn't it serve the wwe right if after all the lame storylines and matches that NO NETWORK wanted to carry them?

[John Constantine]

It's Spike TV's loss anyways. Because, honestly, is there anything else on Spike TV besides WWE and reruns of CSI? :confused:

And there might be a network that'll pick up WWE. I'm betting they'll go back with the USA Network....

[The Techno Bat]

If you could run RAW or SMACKDOWN right now with the talent each show has. Who would you have in what position? Meaning who would be the world champion? IC or US Champion? Women's or Cruiserweight Champion? And of course the tag team champions. And what stars would be main event level, mid card level, etc...

Think about it for a bit and pick a show and manage it to your liking.

[The Techno Bat]

Frankie Kazarian & Johnny Swinger have left TNA and are heading to the WWE. Not sure when they will debut. That s*cks because I want TNA to over take the WWE, I hear they might get the WWE's old time slot on Spike TV....

[Sabretooth]

Who wants to bet Randy Orton is gonna put a pile of his feces in Undertaker's hat at WM21?:(

I am going to be so pissed if he beats Taker.I know I've said that a million times over,but I really will be done with WWE if they're that dumb.

[The Techno Bat]

After hearing about what Randy Orton did, I wish he was off the WM21 card and Taker was fighting Superstar Billy Graham...

Tonight on Velocity it will be Paul London vs Aiko to see who will face Chavo at WM 21 for the cruiserweight title

[The Techno Bat]

Paul London is the new Billy Kidman!

Aiko and London put on another classic tonight and it will be London going on to face Chavo at WM21. Chavo was out commentating, and he was pretty funny.

[John Constantine]

After hearing about what Randy Orton did, I wish he was off the WM21 card and Taker was fighting Superstar Billy Graham...


Shows how high the WWE is on him. When Scott Hall pulled the exact same ****, he got suspended.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I was wondering why Orton took such a dive in popularity in the WWE but after readint hat story I can see why. For awhile there he was the top guy on RAW and it looked like they were setting him up as the new "golden child" but it almost seems like Batista sorta took the ball and ran with it.

I think they need to send Orton over to Smackdown so he can feud with Cena or Angle and have a fresh start in terms of storyline. Who the hell even knows what his current storyline is anymore, last I saw he was getting knocked in the head every single match he was in.

There is NO WAY he is going to go over on 'Taker at WM21. Last year he managed to defeat Rock and Mick Foley so there is no way he is going to do the impossible and end UT's winning streak....it's just not going to happen. I'm guessing he'll lose and then jump to Smackdown to continue the feud, probably playing the heel in the angle.

[Shifty]

I was wondering why Orton took such a dive in popularity in the WWE but after readint hat story I can see why. For awhile there he was the top guy on RAW and it looked like they were setting him up as the new "golden child" but it almost seems like Batista sorta took the ball and ran with it.

I think they need to send Orton over to Smackdown so he can feud with Cena or Angle and have a fresh start in terms of storyline. Who the hell even knows what his current storyline is anymore, last I saw he was getting knocked in the head every single match he was in.

There is NO WAY he is going to go over on 'Taker at WM21. Last year he managed to defeat Rock and Mick Foley so there is no way he is going to do the impossible and end UT's winning streak....it's just not going to happen. I'm guessing he'll lose and then jump to Smackdown to continue the feud, probably playing the heel in the angle.


HBK & Orton to SD!
Angle to RAW

[3dman27]

I was wondering why Orton took such a dive in popularity in the WWE but after readint hat story I can see why.

I think they need to send Orton over to Smackdown so he can feud with Cena or Angle and have a fresh start in terms of storyline. Who the hell even knows what his current storyline is anymore, last I saw he was getting knocked in the head every single match he was in.

There is NO WAY he is going to go over on 'Taker at WM21. Last year he managed to defeat Rock and Mick Foley so there is no way he is going to do the impossible and end UT's winning streak....it's just not going to happen. I'm guessing he'll lose and then jump to Smackdown to continue the feud, probably playing the heel in the angle. maybe he should be declared exclusive to HEAT as for cena from what i read on the smackdown results he'llturning heel

[Sabretooth]

maybe he should be declared exclusive to HEAT as for cena from what i read on the smackdown results he'llturning heel
Nah,not even Orton deserves to be on HEAT,just bring him to SD! and start the storyline alot of people want to see,Cena vs.Orton.

[The Techno Bat]

If John Cena is turning Heel as you say I think it will be more of a SCSA attitude and not a straight out heel...

[Hunter Rider]

I agree Techno, the WEE se'ss it like this i think

Orton=New Rock
Cena=New Austin

[Sabretooth]

I agree Techno, the WEE se'ss it like this i think

Orton=New Rock
Cena=New Austin
I definitely see Austin in Cena,but Orton as the new Rock?Nah,I sorta see Carlito as The Rock.:o

Something tells me if Orton beats Taker at WM,they're gonna push him as teh next Undertaker,which I sure hope doesn't happen.:(

[Twitch]

I definitely see Austin in Cena,but Orton as the new Rock?Nah,I sorta see Carlito as The Rock.:o

you are joking right about Carlito right?

[Sabretooth]

you are joking right
What,you don't see Carlito as The Rock when he was just debuting?When he called himself Rocky Maivia I think it was?

[Twitch]

What,you don't see Carlito as The Rock when he was just debuting?When he called himself Rocky Maivia I think it was?

My mistake, It would be cool see another feud with those two guys again

[Sabretooth]

You know who they should starting pushing?Luther Reigns. They need to get him out of this gay ass feud with Jindrak,which no one cares about, and stick him with some main eventers.He's like the only big guy I know besides Batista that can actually.......wrestle.:eek:

[Twitch]

Reigns better go to Raw

[John Constantine]

I definitely see Austin in Cena,but Orton as the new Rock?Nah,I sorta see Carlito as The Rock.:o

Something tells me if Orton beats Taker at WM,they're gonna push him as teh next Undertaker,which I sure hope doesn't happen.:(

Nah, they won't do that. If anything, Orton beating Undertaker in WM 21 is just gonna help cement his Legend Killer status again. Which is what they should've stuck with from the start......

[The Techno Bat]

I agree Techno, the WEE se'ss it like this i think

Orton=New Rock
Cena=New Austin

Definately :)

[Donnie Darko]

I watched SD for the first time in weeks on Thursday night. What is up with the whole Reigns-Jindrack feud?

[The Techno Bat]

I watched SD for the first time in weeks on Thursday night. What is up with the whole Reigns-Jindrack feud?

basically Reigns has been thinking he is better than Jindrak and everytime they lost, in a tag match, or there handicap match with The Undertaker he would yell and shove Jindrak around, until a couple weeks ago Jindrak got tired of it and knocked him out. Thus leading up to there match last week on Smackdown.

[GLfan]

Anyone catch TNA's Destination X? It was a pretty decent PPV, now I'm wishing WWE would go the route TNA did. TNA is all action and less promo imo.

[PyroChamber]

Oh no, USA? I never knew that if you left a network you could some how come back. But I know one thing that will truly suck about this...DOG SHOWS, I remember they would always show those stupid dog shows instead of RAW on some monday nights.

What does everyone think of the Woman's Championship match at WM21? I think it's gonna be stupid because I don't think they'll actually make Christy win, that twist of fate she did was pretty awful IMO.

[3dman27]

all action and less promo imo.
now THIS isthe way a wrestling show should be put out for the public stow the gab and kick some butt :hyper:

[Keyser Soze]

I read the results for TNA: Destination X. The Ultimate X Challenge sounded like a great match. And best of all, Christopher Daniels is now the X Division Champion! All hail "The Fallen Angel"...

http://www.tnawrestling.com/superstars/daniels/live/01.jpg

[The Techno Bat]

I read the results for TNA: Destination X. The Ultimate X Challenge sounded like a great match. And best of all, Christopher Daniels is now the X Division Champion! All hail "The Fallen Angel"...

http://www.tnawrestling.com/superstars/daniels/live/01.jpg

FINALLY!

Christopher Daniels is the Champion...
This guy is an incredible talent. I didn't get the PPV but I watch Impact every friday afternoon. I will probably start getting the PPV's once guys like Nash are gone. I can't stand Kevin Nash.

Do you know anymore of the results. One of my favorite's is Monty Brown. Did he beat that Tryant Guy? Did Jeff Jarrett defend his title against DDP, or did Jeff Jarrett cheat yet again to hold onto the strap?

[John Constantine]

I think Jarrett retained the title with help from Monty Brown.....

[Hunter Rider]

FINALLY!

Christopher Daniels is the Champion...
This guy is an incredible talent. I didn't get the PPV but I watch Impact every friday afternoon. I will probably start getting the PPV's once guys like Nash are gone. I can't stand Kevin Nash.

Do you know anymore of the results. One of my favorite's is Monty Brown. Did he beat that Tryant Guy? Did Jeff Jarrett defend his title against DDP, or did Jeff Jarrett cheat yet again to hold onto the strap?

Monty Brown won
Jeff Hardy won
Jeff Jarrett beat DDP with help from your boy Monty Brown who turned heel and joined Jarrtett

Full results here (http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=112768256)

[Keyser Soze]

I think turning Monty Brown was a bad idea. The Alpha Male is the closest thing TNA has to a breakout superstar babyface (apart from AJ Styles, but he wrestles in the X Division), and I hope turning him heel doesn't kill his heat.

Yeah, I know the NWA World Title Division is going to pot, but at least we have a great X Division, with a great champion - "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels!

I tell you, WWE realy dropped the ball by not picking up this guy. Superb technical wrestling ability, great high-flyer, charismatic, good on the mic, ready-made gimmick, and he even has a superstar look. He's pretty much the total package.

[The Techno Bat]

thanks for the results on TNA...

And I agree turning Monty Brown heel is indeed a bad idea at this time as well.

[Hunter Rider]

no problem Techno:up: I heard that Aj Styles will be moving back into the heavyweight title picture after he dropped the X division title but apparently WWE are looking to sign him in september when his TNA deal is up

[Keyser Soze]

He's turned down WWE before. They're going to have to give him a better offer this time.

Personally, I hope he doesn't go. Styles and Daniels are the only reasons I really watch TNA. Both are the top dogs in TNA, but WWE would just waste them. I addressed this issue in a post I made in another forum. Here's what I said:

The X Division is undoubtedly the best thing about TNA, and AJ Styles is, of course, awesome. Remember that Styles was in the NWA World Title Division for a while, and won the World Title twice. It was Styles who actually requested to be moved back to the X Division, because Styles felt that it was in the X Division where he could display his skills best. And it's true: The X Division is an environment where AJ Styles can really flourish, and have classic matches. Just look at the MOTY candidate he had with the equally excellent Chirstopher Daniels at "Against All Odds".

In TNA, AJ Styles is more over than Batista or Cena are in WWE. While they have their critics amongst WWE fans, Styles is pretty much universally adored by TNA fans. He's the undisputed top dog. But what if he were to move to WWE, where he would be wrestling on the same card as either Batista or Cena? The WWE fans are very different from the TNA fans. WWE fans care more about a superstar look or a gimmick han in-ring ability. I fear that Styles would get lost in the shuffle. Sure, when he first debuted, he would probably get a decent midcard push. But he wouldn't be allowed to use his innovative moves, and his matches wouldn't be given time to develop. Eventually, Styles would get demoted. Sure, he would most likely be given the Cruiserweight Title, but how much credibility does that have?

If there was any justice in the world, AJ Styles would be in contention for the World Title (on Raw or Smackdown) if he were to go to the WWE. But unfortunately, we've got to face the cold, hard facts. This is the WWE we're talking about, and enormously talented wrestlers who happen to be small and only possessing adequate mic skills are going to be overlooked in favour of big muscleheads or guys with charisma. Plus, you forget that Vince McMahon prefers to push home-grown talent, and guys from other companies tend to get jobbed out, to show that WWE has the best roster. I'm sure Vince would be rubbing his hands with glee at the thought of taking TNA's top guy and jobbing him out to a WWE midcarder.

No, AJ Styles is better off where he is in TNA, where he'll get the respect and exposure he clearly deserves. The X Title has become, in my opinion, far more prestigious than the WWE Cruiserweight Title, or arguably even the US Title. So I think rather than taking Styles out of the X Division, we should be thinking about raising the X Division to the status that Styles deserves. The X Division has main event worthy talent, with AJ Styles a top face in TNA and "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels having the potential to be a top heel in TNA. All TNA needs to do is actually try booking an X Title match as the main event of a PPV. TNA has many things wrong with it, but I think it has potential to become a solid competitor for WWE, if it is taken in the right direction.

[Hunter Rider]

I see your points it would be the same as what happened to RVD.I really see no point in WWE signing him if they arent gonna push him as a top star.It is sadly true that a lot of WWE fans prefer charisma and star power over talent,perfect example IMO is Steve Austin,perhaps the most popular star of alltime but a totally medicore ring performer and unless Cena steps up his game we are gonna get mark 11

btw is AJ's mic work not good ? ive never actually seen any TNA

[Keyser Soze]

Its a shame, ebcause AJ Stlyes actually has a really strong sense of how to build a good interview, and the content of his mic work is strong. His problem is that he has a really strong Southern accent, which sort of undermines his good mic skills.

[Hunter Rider]

I see ,the southern accent has never went down well in the WWE

[The Techno Bat]

He's turned down WWE before. They're going to have to give him a better offer this time.

Personally, I hope he doesn't go. Styles and Daniels are the only reasons I really watch TNA. Both are the top dogs in TNA, but WWE would just waste them. I addressed this issue in a post I made in another forum. Here's what I said:

The X Division is undoubtedly the best thing about TNA, and AJ Styles is, of course, awesome. Remember that Styles was in the NWA World Title Division for a while, and won the World Title twice. It was Styles who actually requested to be moved back to the X Division, because Styles felt that it was in the X Division where he could display his skills best. And it's true: The X Division is an environment where AJ Styles can really flourish, and have classic matches. Just look at the MOTY candidate he had with the equally excellent Chirstopher Daniels at "Against All Odds".

In TNA, AJ Styles is more over than Batista or Cena are in WWE. While they have their critics amongst WWE fans, Styles is pretty much universally adored by TNA fans. He's the undisputed top dog. But what if he were to move to WWE, where he would be wrestling on the same card as either Batista or Cena? The WWE fans are very different from the TNA fans. WWE fans care more about a superstar look or a gimmick han in-ring ability. I fear that Styles would get lost in the shuffle. Sure, when he first debuted, he would probably get a decent midcard push. But he wouldn't be allowed to use his innovative moves, and his matches wouldn't be given time to develop. Eventually, Styles would get demoted. Sure, he would most likely be given the Cruiserweight Title, but how much credibility does that have?

If there was any justice in the world, AJ Styles would be in contention for the World Title (on Raw or Smackdown) if he were to go to the WWE. But unfortunately, we've got to face the cold, hard facts. This is the WWE we're talking about, and enormously talented wrestlers who happen to be small and only possessing adequate mic skills are going to be overlooked in favour of big muscleheads or guys with charisma. Plus, you forget that Vince McMahon prefers to push home-grown talent, and guys from other companies tend to get jobbed out, to show that WWE has the best roster. I'm sure Vince would be rubbing his hands with glee at the thought of taking TNA's top guy and jobbing him out to a WWE midcarder.

No, AJ Styles is better off where he is in TNA, where he'll get the respect and exposure he clearly deserves. The X Title has become, in my opinion, far more prestigious than the WWE Cruiserweight Title, or arguably even the US Title. So I think rather than taking Styles out of the X Division, we should be thinking about raising the X Division to the status that Styles deserves. The X Division has main event worthy talent, with AJ Styles a top face in TNA and "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels having the potential to be a top heel in TNA. All TNA needs to do is actually try booking an X Title match as the main event of a PPV. TNA has many things wrong with it, but I think it has potential to become a solid competitor for WWE, if it is taken in the right direction.

These are all solid points and a great example of this would have to be The Ultimo Dragon. He is amazing, how many title belts has he won, and had at one time? Something like 12? He was a legend in Japan and has great skills, but of course the WWE brought him in and ruined him. I would rather have AJ Styles stay with TNA and really help that company bury the WWE.

The WWE just recently signed Frankie Kazaraan and Johnny Swinger, not sure when they will debut though...

[Hunter Rider]

These are all solid points and a great example of this would have to be The Ultimo Dragon. He is amazing, how many title belts has he won, and had at one time? Something like 12? He was a legend in Japan and has great skills, but of course the WWE brought him in and ruined him. I would rather have AJ Styles stay with TNA and really help that company bury the WWE.

Ultimo held 9 titles a tonce as the J crown champion i belive

[The Techno Bat]

Ultimo held 9 titles a tonce as the J crown champion i belive

And the WWE turns him into a joke. I think Vince really needs to have his ego checked at the door or something because he brings in great talent, but because they have worked elsewhere he and other behind the scenes treat them like dirt and do what they can to ruin and expose them

[Hunter Rider]

And the WWE turns him into a joke. I think Vince really needs to have his ego checked at the door or something because he brings in great talent, but because they have worked elsewhere he and other behind the scenes treat them like dirt and do what they can to ruin and expose them

I think the big problem is vince is to hung up on big guys,just look at all the air time given to those 2 sacks of crap snitsky and hiedenriech.WWe are bringing in juventud guerro and Super Crazy after Mania so hopefully theyll start giving the Cruiserweight division some respect on SD as the show could do with a boost

[Nightwing]

who are the commentators for wrestling nowadays?last i watched it it was jim ross and gerry "the king" lawler.who does it now?and does trish stratus still do the interviews?

[Twitch]

I read the results for TNA: Destination X. The Ultimate X Challenge sounded like a great match. And best of all, Christopher Daniels is now the X Division Champion! All hail "The Fallen Angel"...

http://www.tnawrestling.com/superstars/daniels/live/01.jpg

this picture of him is awsome!

[Sabretooth]

AJ Styles can't go to WWE.They'll probably just make him a wrestler in the Kurt Angle Invitational.:mad:

[Duende Verde]

I think the big problem is vince is to hung up on big guys,just look at all the air time given to those 2 sacks of crap snitsky and hiedenriech.WWe are bringing in juventud guerro and Super Crazy after Mania so hopefully theyll start giving the Cruiserweight division some respect on SD as the show could do with a boost
Don't forget Psicosis

[Donnie Darko]

damn, if they build up their cruisderweight division like WCW's was in the mid-late 90s, then it's gonna be great.

[John Constantine]

They've always had the wrestlers to make the cruiserweight division great. But it seems they're just content to stick them on Velocity or have them job to some of the bigger wrestlers around.

And yeah, I doubt Styles would probably sign with the WWE. I think he was previously offered a contract by them a couple years back and he turned them down. Now Raven on the other hand. I hear his contract is up this year as well.....

[Sabretooth]

I like Raven,but I hope he sticks with TNA


And didn't Abyss get signed with WWE?:confused:

[John Constantine]

Raven's one of the cooler characters around. It sucks that he's never gotten a good push outside of ECW though. He could've been one of the more effective heel main eventers anywere, but it just seems he's not given much of a chance.


And there were rumors that Abyss was signing with the WWE, but they were just that, rumors. I think they purposely did that just so people wouldn't expect Abyss to show up when he attacked Jeff Hardy a couple months back.

[Hunter Rider]

Raven's one of the cooler characters around. It sucks that he's never gotten a good push outside of ECW though. He could've been one of the more effective heel main eventers anywere, but it just seems he's not given much of a chance.


And there were rumors that Abyss was signing with the WWE, but they were just that, rumors. I think they purposely did that just so people wouldn't expect Abyss to show up when he attacked Jeff Hardy a couple months back.

I agree with you on Raven however i think he's often been his own worst enemy,he seems to stir up bad feeling in most locker rooms.As for Abyss i don't know much about him but from the clips ive seen he looks like a decent hardcore monster heel but he seems to loose to often to make him credible in wwe

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but the guy's definitely an interesting as hell heel. I also love his gimmick. And to think, he used to be this:

http://home.t-online.de/home/520024784594-0001/Raven/rwwf/polo/018.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

lol johnny polo,wow and adam bomb,that brings back memories,he was also scotty flamingo in wcw.

[John Constantine]

Yep. Those days were hilarious. Everybody had to have a stupid-as-hell gimmick. To be honest, if I had a choice between choosing the WWE as it is right now or the WWF during the early to mid 90s, I would definitely choose the WWE today.

[Hunter Rider]

agreed,i remember adam bomb was gonna be the next big monster heel at one point and the lost a 30 second job to earthquake at WM 10

[John Constantine]

He turned into a massive geek after he turned face. That whole Bomb Squad thing. *shudder*


The same thing with Doink. He was a cool-as-hell evil clown. Then when he turned, the gimmick went to **** :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

the 2v worst heel to face turns ever IMO were Vader and Bam Bam Bigelow,Truly ridiculous,they lost all there appeal:(

[John Constantine]

Yeah, Vader turned from a monster heel to a joke of a character very quickly. One minute he was so close to being the WWF champion, the next, he was jobbing to everyone.


And Bam Bam kinda turned himself around after he quickly left the WWF. Especially in ECW...

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah vaders feud with sting in the early 90's was when he was used right,they dropped the ball in his feud with HBK.Your right Bam Bam did redeem himself in ECW and had some great matches with RVD,shane Douglas and Taz

[John Constantine]

ECW was a pretty good breeding ground for some wrestlers. Scott Levy became Raven there. Al Snow got rid of being Leif Cassidy and had that interesting Head gimmick......


Man, I can't wait for that reunion show :o

[Hunter Rider]

yeah it also introduced guys like RVD,Taz,Sabu and the Dudleys to the tv viewing audience.A guy that wcw wasted from there was Mike awesome,he had potential and they made him "that 70's guy":rolleyes: his matches in ECW with masato tanaka were some of the best ive seen,I just hope the reunion show is done right

[John Constantine]

I remembered seeing Awesome's matches with Spike Dudley as well. He just tossed him around like a rag doll. That was some great **** :up:

It looks like the WWE is starting to take the reunion show more seriously. They got Heyman back to be a consultant. THey're even contacting TNA to see if they can get Raven and a few other former ECW wrestlers in TNA to attend.

[Hunter Rider]

yeah Poor spike lol i remember when Bam Bam started the crowd surfing gimmik when he threw him into the audience.I heard theyve got Tommy Dreamer ringing round trhe old talent to try and get them to appear

[The Techno Bat]

AJ Styles can't go to WWE.They'll probably just make him a wrestler in the Kurt Angle Invitational.:mad:

It's actually kind of funny, but it's the truth...

It does sound as though the WWE is going to be building up the Cruiserweight division which is probably due to the large success of NWATNA's X-Division.

So they have signed :
Frankie Kazaran, Juventud, Psiciois, and Super Crazy and with the talent they already have. This could really help the WWE. Especially if they allow these guys to go all out and do there thing.

But I hear Rey Mysterio is going to be getting a huge push after WM21 towards the heavyweight title so you can count him out of any cruiserweight action. Which stinks because he and Juventud really tore it up back in wCw.

FINALLY THE JUICE HAS COME TO THE WWE!

[Donnie Darko]

it's gonna be great when Randy RKOs Jake the Snake

[Donnie Darko]

The Legend Killer Is Officially Back!!!!!!!!!

[Sabretooth]

What happened so far on RAW?

[The Techno Bat]

it's gonna be great when Randy RKOs Jake the Snake

I totally wished Jake the Snake could have hit more than that Short Line Clothesline on Randy Orton. I hate when Orton just pops up and acts like nothing has happened and BAM RKO! The fans wanted it, and so did I ! Why couldn't we see Jake hit the DDT and bring out Damien!

[Sabretooth]

God,if I have to see Christy Hemme trying to wrestle again,I think I'll throw my TV out.

[Batman15]

marty friggin janetty :eek:

[Illchill]

Awesome, I didnt know we had a wrestling thread here.
Jannety will probably get his ankle snapped on Thursday to add to the rivalry.

[Illchill]

I wish they would bring respect back to the IC title. The holder is great and so is the could-be competition, so c'mon vince!

[The Techno Bat]

marty friggin janetty :eek:

what is it roll out the old and washed up wrestlers night?

First Jake the Snake and now Marty Jannety for a one night only Rockers Reunion? I wonder if he will come out in his old Rockers gear. and play there old music?

And I hear you about Christy Hemme, you could totally call her kicking Regal in the balls all the way.

[Sabretooth]

Anybody else see that Austin Stunner or whatever?ahhh those were the days.

[Sabretooth]

How did Randy turn heel?:confused:

[The Techno Bat]

Anybody else see that Austin Stunner or whatever?ahhh those were the days.

The Good ol days of wrestling. Can I get a

"Oh Hell YA"

[Batman15]

Anybody else see that Austin Stunner or whatever?ahhh those were the days.

him getting arrested :(

man i miss those days, a lot. :(

[Batman15]

janetty looks like my dad trying to be cool at the beach. :(

[John Constantine]

hahahaha......that Rockers reunion was great. :up:

[Batman15]

i thought janetty actually did really good :up:

[Super Kal]

tonight's RAW was a good one

[John Constantine]

i thought janetty actually did really good :up:

Yeah, he wasn't bad considering he probably hasn't wrestled in a while. Or has he? :confused:

The last time I saw him wrestle was in WCW back in the late 90s.

[Batman15]

yeah, im pretty sure its been a looooooonnng time. So considerig that, he did pretty damn well.

[The Techno Bat]

Jannetty has been doing the independent scene, so I am sure he has stayed in wrestling shape.

[DOG LIPS]

Damn... I missed the end, what happened between Snitsky and Batista?

[Donnie Darko]

my friend Jamie hasn't watched wrestling in years, but I called him up to make him watch the Rockers Reunion because he used to love them, and followed HBK for years, and when he saw Jannetty, he said "he looks like the guy from Teen Wolf"

[PyroChamber]

He turned into a massive geek after he turned face. That whole Bomb Squad thing. *shudder*


The same thing with Doink. He was a cool-as-hell evil clown. Then when he turned, the gimmick went to **** :mad:Yeah I remember that, after a match he would throw footballs into the crowd and they changed his music.

The guy who was Doink didn't want his character to turn face because he thought it was good the way it was, but the WWF disagreed and he quit. But they kept the Doink name and had someone else be him.....Doink and Dink, I'm sure McMahon looks back on old matches during the early 90s and thinks "what the hell were we thinking?"

[3dman27]

no molly tonight AGAIN? i think it because she used to be ms madness/mona in wcw the wwe should know what a good wrestler they have in her and for that matter other wcw allumni and know off the eliteism

MOLLY YO CHRISTY NO

[Keyser Soze]

I read the results for TNA: Destination X. The Ultimate X Challenge sounded like a great match. And best of all, Christopher Daniels is now the X Division Champion! All hail "The Fallen Angel"...

http://www.tnawrestling.com/superstars/daniels/live/01.jpg

this picture of him is awsome!

Thank you very much. Okay, I admit, this was just an excuse to get this picture back on the current page. But I'll make up for it by posting another pic, this time of...

http://www.tnawrestling.com/styles/pictures/page4/large/24.jpg

AJ STYLES!!!!

[Keyser Soze]

I heard that Chris Benoit VS Triple H was an absolutely awesome match.

[The Techno Bat]

I heard that Chris Benoit VS Triple H was an absolutely awesome match.

it was another classic. Now these two men know how to put on a show. Benoit hit like 10 German Suplexes on HHH. (not in a row though) and really beat him up good. At one point he chopped HHH like 7 or 8 times in a row in the corner really hard. HHH sold them great. But of course there was a cheap ending to the match, HHH lowblowed Chris Benoit and hit the Pedigree. But the reason he was able to do so was because Flair, and this is great, Flair tried to come into the ring with the belt and the referee tossed him from the match, and Flair flipped out (classic Naich) taking off his suit coat, jumping around and getting into the faces of the fans, the referee came out and started directing Flair to the back and then the lowblow came into play.

Great match though ****1/2 out of *****

[The Techno Bat]

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/v/vampiro/08.jpg

Vampiro Rules!
He is one of my all time favorite wrestlers. I just wish he would of stuck around in NWA TNA, because it is hard to follow what he is doing in Mexico. But I guess he had to leave TNA because of the Jarrett's backstage Bull*****. The same type of stuff happened with him in wCw with Jeff Jarrett, who was supposed to drop the US title to Vampiro but refused, because of a program Jeff was doing with Goldberg. And then later on Vampiro was supposed to become the world champion but guys like Nash and Jarrett put a stop to it real quick.

I really hate the backstage politics. There are other case sceniro's where wrestlers that were so over could have been somebody but because of the Political B.S. they become a nobody and fade off into the sunset. Like Vampiro if he was able to become the US Champion and WCW World Champion I think he would be in the WWE right now, and a big time player. His only title reign in wcw was a tag team title run with The Great Muta that lasted less than a week. What an insult not only to Vampiro, but to a legend like The Great Muta (Keiji Mutoh)

[Hunter Rider]

does anyone know where CM punk and samoa joe are now ?

[The Techno Bat]

does anyone know where CM punk and samoa joe are now ?

As of February 26th of this year Samoa Joe lost to Austin Aries in his attempt to get his ROH title back, and I know CM Punk has been splitting time with ROH and the IWA: Mid South Region.

Here is CM Punk's website: http://www.cmpunk.cjb.net/

[Hunter Rider]

As of February 26th of this year Samoa Joe lost to Austin Aries in his attempt to get his ROH title back, and I know CM Punk has been splitting time with ROH and the IWA: Mid South Region

I heard they had a couple of classic Hour long matches against each other,Do you think we'll see either in WWE or TNA ? I know at 1 point Mick Foley was trying to get WWE to sign Samoa Joe

[The Techno Bat]

I heard they had a couple of classic Hour long matches against each other,Do you think we'll see either in WWE or TNA ? I know at 1 point Mick Foley was trying to get WWE to sign Samoa Joe

I am not sure about Samoa Joe, but I know CM Punk has wrestled in the past with NWATNA, back in the PPV every wednesday period, and he teamed up with Julio Denerio alot, and were managed by Father James Mitchell. CM Punk had some great matches with Raven in TNA too. But I think the door is always open for him to come back to TNA.

[Hunter Rider]

I am not sure about Samoa Joe, but I know CM Punk has wrestled in the past with NWATNA, back in the PPV every wednesday period, and he teamed up with Julio Denerio alot, and were managed by Father James Mitchell. CM Punk had some great matches with Raven in TNA too. But I think the door is always open for him to come back to TNA.

I'd like to get hold of some TNA matches

[The Techno Bat]

I'd like to get hold of some TNA matches

It was some good stuff. And if you can get ahold of some old tapes it is worth it. try the nwatna website

[Hunter Rider]

It was some good stuff. And if you can get ahold of some old tapes it is worth it. try the nwatna website

well i'm in the UK so im hoping we are gonna get a DVD set out soon

[Keyser Soze]

Mick Foley reportedly recommended both Samoa Joe and CM Punk to Vince McMahon. I'd like to see both in WWE - Samoa Joe on Raw, CM Punk on Smackdown. If used well, both could go far...

[The Techno Bat]

Mick Foley reportedly recommended both Samoa Joe and CM Punk to Vince McMahon. I'd like to see both in WWE - Samoa Joe on Raw, CM Punk on Smackdown. If used well, both could go far...

that is awesome news...
if the wwe signed CM Punk would there really be any reason to bring Raven back like the rumors are reporting?

[The Techno Bat]

Thank you very much. Okay, I admit, this was just an excuse to get this picture back on the current page. But I'll make up for it by posting another pic, this time of...

http://www.tnawrestling.com/styles/pictures/page4/large/24.jpg

AJ STYLES!!!!

cool picture of AJ Styles!

[Metamorpho1977]

They ought to bring Jannetty back and give the Rockers a run for the Tag belts for a little while. It would be a good way for them both to retire I think. Michaels and Jannetty.

[Twitch]

They ought to bring Jannetty back and give the Rockers a run for the Tag belts for a little while. It would be a good way for them both to retire I think. Michaels and Jannetty.

That's sounds like a good idea, but might not happen.

[The Techno Bat]

That's sounds like a good idea, but might not happen.

More likely that it will never happen. Which is too bad, I think the fans would really like it, but I don't think HBK would go for it...

[Metamorpho1977]

he ought to, because it's obvious the WWE isn't gonna give him another world heavyweight championship run again.

[The Techno Bat]

he ought to, because it's obvious the WWE isn't gonna give him another world heavyweight championship run again.

You never know what the WWE will do. HBK could become world champion again, althought it would be a huge mistake, but we don't know what is written in his contract. It might state that when he came back he would be given two more world title runs, so he could have one left.

[Hunter Rider]

You never know what the WWE will do. HBK could become world champion again, althought it would be a huge mistake, but we don't know what is written in his contract. It might state that when he came back he would be given two more world title runs, so he could have one left.

Personaly i'd like to see HBK as champ again but i doubt he will be,WWE don't need him to be as he gives them the second main event match on every PPV he's on,He doesn't need the belt to be main event so best to put it on guys that need it like Batista or Edge

[The Techno Bat]

Personaly i'd like to see HBK as champ again but i doubt he will be,WWE don't need him to be as he gives them the second main event match on every PPV he's on,He doesn't need the belt to be main event so best to put it on guys that need it like Batista or Edge

Awesome point...

[John Constantine]

Mick Foley reportedly recommended both Samoa Joe and CM Punk to Vince McMahon. I'd like to see both in WWE - Samoa Joe on Raw, CM Punk on Smackdown. If used well, both could go far...

I read on some other site that the WWE really wasn't interested in bringing those two to the WWE. Their reason? They didn't have the proper look :rolleyes:

[The Techno Bat]

I read on some other site that the WWE really wasn't interested in bringing those two to the WWE. Their reason? They didn't have the proper look :rolleyes:

Probably because they aren't 6'7 and use steriods. It's too bad because these two guys are great workers

[Hunter Rider]

Probably because they aren't 6'7 and use steriods. It's too bad because these two guys are great workers

thatll be right,i can't believe what i'm seeing everytime i see snitsky and hiedenriech in the ring

[John Constantine]

It's because of the messed-up OVW system. You notice how the majority of the wrestlers now that come up from there aren't even close to being ready yet? I mean look at Chris Masters.....

[Twitch]

I want no more crazy people personas from wrestlers. Personaly get more guys like Shelton. Did you see his match last night against Edge that was awesome!

[The Techno Bat]

It's because of the messed-up OVW system. You notice how the majority of the wrestlers now that come up from there aren't even close to being ready yet? I mean look at Chris Masters.....

The Masterbate Chris Matthews is horrible, his in ring work s*cks and he needs microphone work. Sure the Polish Hammer and his power moves are somewhat impressive, but JR said it best on RAW when he compared Masters to Batista and said Batista is a monster compared to him. Nice way to put over the new comers...

[The Techno Bat]

I want no more crazy people personas from wrestlers. Personaly get more guys like Shelton. Did you see his match last night against Edge that was awesome!

agreed!

Snitsky and Hiendenrich are too much to handle. And with Edge's new attitude it is getting a bit boring with all these nut jobs running around. Shelton Benjamin is a great talent, and I like how JR mentions The Stinger Splash. Benjamin has a huge future ahead of him. I hope they don't turn him heel and rush him along like they did with Randy Orton

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah, I heard that about Joe and Punk as well. As I said, Foley recommended them, but sadly WWE wasn't as convinced. They reportedly think Punk is too skinny and Joe is too fat. Meh.

Joe being fat is a big part of his look. You don't get it just by looking at a picture of him, you have to watch his matches. His build really suits his hard-hitting in-ring style. Punk on the other hand has started bulking up, so maybe he's trying to attract WWE attention. Neither should have a problem with height, as I believe that they are both around 6 foot 2.

But I hate how WWE won't hire talented indy workers, instead only bringing in big roided up freaks who can't wrestle from OVW. A lot of people bemoan the fact that there isn't enough new talent, but there is lots of phenomenal talent working in the indies. It's just that WWE doesn't want to hire any of them.

[3dman27]

I hate how WWE won't hire talented indy workers, instead only bringing in big roided up freaks who can't wrestle from OVW. A lot of people bemoan the fact that there isn't enough new talent, but there is lots of phenomenal talent working in the indies. It's just that WWE doesn't want to hire any of them.
i have to agree about the steroid boys keyser whats vince the wince's idea of a wrestling match anyway ,king kong vs godzilla? the wwe already has talented athletes in the crusierweight division why not use them get enough former tna wrestlers to replace the steroid boys and get off the muscle freak kick

[John Constantine]

Vince will never get off the "muscle freak kick". He's always loved the typical big man who has the look and can never wrestle that well. And it doesn't help that the people who are in charge of calling up talent from OVW are nothing more than yes-men.

The best example of high messed up the OVW system is is Rico. The guy was given the highest recommendation by Cornette. Yes, even more than Shelton Benjamin, Brock Lesner, John Cena, etc. And look how he ended up.....

[Keyser Soze]

Rico was actually a pretty talented wrestler who was horribly misused.

[Donnie Darko]

the thing about Heidenreich and Snitsky is that not only are they terrible in the ring and on the mic, but their physiques aren't even very impressive. I mean, look at their bodies. They're big guys, but not what I would call impressive physical specimens. Put them next to someone like Triple-H or Batista. Those two are not only huge, but toned and ripped. Snitsky has like no definition and is covered in acne.

[Shifty]

Rico was actually a pretty talented wrestler who was horribly misused.

And even beat Ric Flair cleanly on RAW.

[Sabretooth]

the thing about Heidenreich and Snitsky is that not only are they terrible in the ring and on the mic, but their physiques aren't even very impressive. I mean, look at their bodies. They're big guys, but not what I would call impressive physical specimens. Put them next to someone like Triple-H or Batista. Those two are not only huge, but toned and ripped. Snitsky has like no definition and is covered in acne.
Heidenreich's pretty ripped.:confused: he's no Batista,but I'm pretty sure he's more toned or on the same level as HHH.

[The Techno Bat]

Did you catch how JR is trying to build HHH up as a powerhouse and a monster inside the ring now? He was talking about it on Raw alot this past week. Come on JR we already know what HHH is and how fit he is.

I hear Rey Mysterio is going to get a huge push after WM21, outside of the cruiserweight division. I think a John Cena/JBL feud could be pretty good. Can you image Rey as the world champion? Now that would be even bigger than when Eddie beat Brock Lesnar....

[John Constantine]

Actually back when Lesner got injured and they were looking for a replacement champion, Heyman was actually suggesting that Rey held the title for a brief period. It certainly would've been interesting to see what would've happened if Rey did become the WWE champion for a few months.....


But really, Rey should maybe get the US title for a few months after Wrestlemania. Maybe have him feud with a heel Charlie Haas or someone brought over from Raw.

[John Constantine]

Rico was actually a pretty talented wrestler who was horribly misused.

I still got a kick out of his tag team with Haas. I was pretty disappointed when he was released a few months back. But at least he's doing some great things over at Japan now.

[WildChild]

the thing about Heidenreich and Snitsky is that not only are they terrible in the ring and on the mic, but their physiques aren't even very impressive. I mean, look at their bodies. They're big guys, but not what I would call impressive physical specimens. Put them next to someone like Triple-H or Batista. Those two are not only huge, but toned and ripped. Snitsky has like no definition and is covered in acne.
True, True.

[Twitch]

Personaly if TNA becomes big enough I want them to buy out WWE and add their wrestlers. Shelton vs. Styles would be huge.

[The Techno Bat]

JAKE 'THE SNAKE' SEES ACTION AFTER RAW GOES OFF THE AIR

It was a nice homecoming for Jake 'The Snake' Roberts at RAW. His
first WWE TV appearance in many, many years came in front of a rabid
crowd in Atlanta, GA., who certainly didn't forget about Roberts,
chanting 'Jake The Snake' and 'DDT' during his interview with Randy Orton. After RAW went off the air, a tag team match was done between Triple H and Edge vs Batista and Shawn Michaels. Flair, who was
interfering a lot was matched by 'The Snake' who made his way out from
the backstage area with a snake. Flair hit the showers after Roberts
chased the former champ around and put the snake on him. After the match was over, Roberts entered the ring and DDT'ed Triple H, laying the reptile on his body immediately after.

Now that is something I would have loved to see....

[angelus777]

Wouldn't it be awesome at WM 21 the LEGEND KILLER beats undertaker, then the next night at raw every legend he beat challenges him to a match in a lumberjack like match. with the last person undertaker who beats him. and everyone else puts their finishing move on him.

[John Constantine]

Personaly if TNA becomes big enough I want them to buy out WWE and add their wrestlers. Shelton vs. Styles would be huge.

That'll never happen. If anything, TNA might be seen as WCW-lite. But I doubt they will ever get rid of the WWE empire.

[The Techno Bat]

The WWE has been around for a very long time and I don't see it going anywhere. Even in the down time right now, they will most likely always be seen as the Elite, and the cream of the crop.

[Donnie Darko]

I have an idea. Jericho wins his ladder match. JBL beats Cena. As JBL celebrates, Jericho comes out with a mic, saying he has a contract to challenge for the title any time he wants, so he chooses to challenge JBL for the SD title "Right NOW!" He comes down, they wrestle, Jericho beats JBL. He becomes WWE Champion, setting up a feud between him and Cena, who someone said was going to turn heel.

[Shifty]

I have an idea. Jericho wins his ladder match. JBL beats Cena. As JBL celebrates, Jericho comes out with a mic, saying he has a contract to challenge for the title any time he wants, so he chooses to challenge JBL for the SD title "Right NOW!" He comes down, they wrestle, Jericho beats JBL. He becomes WWE Champion, setting up a feud between him and Cena, who someone said was going to turn heel.

That would be great, but would never happen.

[3dman27]

Wouldn't it be awesome at WM 21 the LEGEND KILLER beats undertaker, then the next night at raw every legend he beat challenges him to a match in a lumberjack like match. with the last person undertaker who beats him. and everyone else puts their finishing move on him.
sounds interesting

[3dman27]

The WWE has been around for a very long time and I don't see it going anywhere. Even in the down time right now, they will most likely always be seen as the Elite, and the cream of the crop.
if mr macmahon wants to keep the wwe the cream of the crop he should remember the adage"its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the FIGHT in the DOG"

[Twitch]

Agreed

[0neDisturbedSOB]

The Rocker's reunion was GREAT to see, it reminded me of the good ol' days....if both of them had been sporting their mullets it would've been complete.

Is it just me or can anyone else see the sheer excitment on Batista's face when he makes his entrance? last Monday on RAW he had a huge smile on his face..you can tell that he's loving every second of his popularity, and come WM21 he's going to be "the man", gone along way since those "Deacon Batista" days huh?

Looks like Orton is going to be a full fledged heel in the next week or so. Anyone see him jumping to Smackdown to continue his feud with Undertaker and possibly John Cena?

[The Batman]

Orton.Must.Rest.In.Peace

[Shifty]

Orton.Must.Rest.In.Peace

Do you think Orton's dad might get involved? He's getting inducted into the Hall of Fame this year and they've already brought back Jake the Snake, Mark Janetty - Austin and Roddy Piper are billed and most likely Hogan.

The Score in Canada had a brief segment about RAW coming to Calgary, Benoit and Bastista were interviewed (in white cowboy hats). Batista seemed to really enjoy this. Which I guess is because he probably never thought he would be champion or WM headliner due to his age and Orton's big push last year.

[Hunter Rider]

Jake "The Snake" Roberts Talks About RAW & Permanent WWE Return?


The following are news highlights of a WrestleZone Radio interview with Jake "The Snake" Roberts less than 24 hours after his surprise appearance at WWE RAW this week:

-Jake said he got the call a few days before RAW about possibly coming on. He said he mentioned in the past he would never return to WWE, even for a one-time appearance. He said he could do one of two things - A. not watch the product, or B. try and get in there and shake things up. He chose the latter.

-He discussed the original idea, and how he changed it. He said the skeleton was pretty much the same, but they gave him the freedom to get in there and talk his game. He mentioned respect for Randy Orton's father and grandfather, and said there's no one in WWE right now to guide him, correct him, or help him the way he needs. He felt he could do just that.

-Jake "The Snake" also discussed what went down after RAW ended, when he came back out and got involved in the "bonus" stuff for the live crowd that WWE does every week on RAW. He said it was most fun putting the snake down Edge's pants, as Edge didn't know he'd be doing that and it was kind of funny.

-When it came to talking about returning permanently, Jake accidentally "let the cat (or snake) out of the bag", and said it's definitely in the works. Right now he's waiting to get his hip fixed with surgery, but that while "the deal isn't officially done yet, he agreed to the one time shot at RAW" while recovering from injury.

-Roberts talked about being backstage at the show, saying the talent roster is pretty thin "believe me, it's thin. I was in the lockerroom, and yeah, their talent roster isn't that deep." He did say a few guys got something going, but whether or not it's handled right remains to be seen.

All in all it was a good interview, but a short one due to him being sick. He was originally coming on the show to let everyone know he couldn't do the interview this week and would come back next week for an interview when he's healthy. He wound up talking about the RAW appearance with us for a good 10-15 minutes though, as well as his plans on returning to wrestling again.

If you want to listen to the audio version of the interview in full, you can do so two ways. We have one in streaming Real Media format (no download necessary) which you can access directly by clicking here (http://www.wrestlezoneradio.com/load.cgi?shows/031505.ram). You can also download it in MP3 format, but the file size is pretty big so it will take a few minutes. You can get that by clicking here (http://www.wrestlezoneradio.com/load.cgi?shows/031505.mp3).

[JINoside]

I just want to say, That Jannety was pretty impressive. Both his matches were pretty good. Hes still a bit rusty though since he hasn't wrestled in a while, i noticed it during his RAW match. But hes done pretty dam well, i wouldn't mind if he would stay for a while longer.....

The Jake-Orton thing on RAW sucked since i saw the ending coming. Orton always reverses a finisher and RKO's :rolleyes:. It would've been great if he would've hit the DDT though. Other than that, RAW was good. Also, i see Randy beign moved to Smackdown in the future, back to where he started:p. I Don't want to talk much about Taker-Orton because...its not the Main event, but its a very important macth in history. If Taker loses, his streak is over. If he wins, then there won't be a riot a Wrestlemania by angry Taker fans:o.....

Is it just me or can anyone else see the sheer excitment on Batista's face when he makes his entrance? last Monday on RAW he had a huge smile on his face..you can tell that he's loving every second of his popularity, and come WM21 he's going to be "the man", gone along way since those "Deacon Batista" days huh?

No, i been noticing his big smile for weeks. Hes truly happy and he can't seem to hide it. The guys enjoying the ride. Hes surely come along way for sure. I have some pictures of him from before. Anybody want to see them?.....

Looks like Orton is going to be a full fledged heel in the next week or so. Anyone see him jumping to Smackdown to continue his feud with Undertaker and possibly John Cena?

Yeah, i do. Most likely to recreate the Intro to Smackdown vs Raw game. John Cena vs Randy Orton. BTW, Does anybody play this game Online?.....

P.S.. Contract signing is on:o.......

[Sabretooth]

eww ew ew.Cena's new entrance theme sucks balls.:(

[3dman27]

i missed smackdown last night has cena turned heel?

[Goldenage Batman]

No...but Taker and Orton siging was kickass.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....

[Metamorpho1977]

who won Janetty/Angle match?

[John Constantine]

eww ew ew.Cena's new entrance theme sucks balls.:(

It's....different.

It surprised me a bit at first though because I didn't expect them to change Cena's theme music at this point.

To be honest, his new theme does sound a bit heelish....

[GLfan]

I hate it, then again I hate change.

[3dman27]

did they air the part wher dawn marie got into a fight with one of the new divas?

[GLfan]

Yeah they did, it was great!

[Shifty]

who won Janetty/Angle match?

Angle, but Janetty still looked great. I never watched wrestling when the Rockers were around, but I was impressed with how he performed.

[John Constantine]

Janetty's match with Angle was better than I thought it would be. I'm hoping maybe the WWE might bring him back for a short while. I would be badass to see a Rockers vs. Edge/Christian match :up:

[3dman27]

i saw an ad for a new wrestling show starting on pax and fox sports net next week
heres a link to their website
www.realprowrestling.com

[Newlife]

So is Austin coming back to wrestle or what? I use to watch WWE all the time but its been in the gutter for awhile i just flip on Raw on Mondays if im home.

I been noticing all this Austin stuff being said but never really heard if he was coming back to wrestle. I know he will be at Wrestlemania but i dont know what he will be doin there.

[Shifty]

So is Austin coming back to wrestle or what? I use to watch WWE all the time but its been in the gutter for awhile i just flip on Raw on Mondays if im home.

I been noticing all this Austin stuff being said but never really heard if he was coming back to wrestle. I know he will be at Wrestlemania but i dont know what he will be doin there.

Piper's Pit will return and he will be the guest. So Austin will give a stunner, give the finger and drink beer. The same thing we've seen 1000s of times. I doubt Austin will return to wrestle right now but i guess its a positive note (if you're a fan of his) that he's atleast showing up.

[3dman27]

i saw an ad for a new wrestling show starting on pax and fox sports net next week
heres a link to their website
www.realprowrestling.com
i checked the time for it on pax and its on from 4pm to 5 pm

[John Constantine]

So apparently the WWE did sign Marty Janetty over the weekend :confused:


And to bring back yet another old face from the WWF, it seems like Sensational Sherri might make an appearance as part of Kurt Angle's "Do everything HBK did in four weeks"

[Sabretooth]

I have GOT to ask.WTF do the fans cheer a heel who ***** slaps a huge babyface,RKO's his GM who is a face,or RKO's legends.:confused:




edit:nevermind,not gonna be much cheering for Orton now.Damn I love Heel Orton.:)

[Sabretooth]

HAHAHAHA anybody see that WM commercial? When that pan dropped and Snitsky said,''IT WASN'T MY FAULT!'' had me laughing my ass off.:D

[John Constantine]

Yeah, that was probably one of the funniest WM commercials yet. Beats out that Basic Instinct one. I think I laughed the most during the Big Show's segments. Particularly the last one :D

[hotrain33]

Finally the wwe is doing something right with orton. If you caught raw tonight orton rko'd stacy just to prove to taker that he will go to any length to beat the pheanom. The fans there literally booed him off the stage for this action. Looks like a heel turn is at hand and this maybe just the begining of the return of the cocky superstar that destroyed every legend in his path.

[angelus777]

I'm I the only one who thinks MOLLY HOLLY is hot? They should put a rivalry against her and trish.

[3dman27]

I'm I the only one who thinks MOLLY HOLLY is hot? They should put a rivalry against her and trish.
they've had one of those at times and a molly vs lita feud
i'm with YOU angelus molly is one hell of a beautiful woman have you noticed that with short dark hair molly resembles charmed's alyssa milano?
:ff: can anyone imagine her in a boxing or kickboxing match?

[Donnie Darko]

I hope they never try to pull the face angle with Orton again. He's too good a heel to be a face (much like Triple-H).

[3dman27]

do you think evolution found "the right man"or at least likely candidates last night?

[hotrain33]

I hope they don't bring in more members for evolution because the faction is geting to boring and personally I would like to see Triple H in a feud with Flair. He has turned on many so called associates of his in the past. Flair is at the end of his career and one good last run as a face would be good to see. However if they do bring in new members to evolution the two best prospects is Maven and Edge.

[Super Kal]

I missed RAW last night. Was there anything that stood out?

[3dman27]

i would say maven and/or molly

[The Ghoul]

Hey my computer is still broke & I don't remember if I posted this before & I am too lazy to look for it so I am going to ask again. Is the fact that Paul Heyman was fired also effect the ECW PPV in anay way?

[Metamorpho1977]

I was kind of surprised by the RKO on Stacey

[John Constantine]

I kinda expected it to be honest. Right when I saw the part where Orton told Stacy to come out with him I went "Uh oh, Stacy is toast".


And yeah, Orton's new heel turn might help rejuvenate his character a lot. His previous run as a heel was a bit marred because they were always setting him up as a face, so he wasn't allowed to go as far as he could've gone.....

[Sabretooth]

When Randy RKO'ed her,it was awesome.

But then,they STILL made him look like a face,because he was about to shed a tear when he was walking back up the ramp.Which by the way,was poor acting by orton,it looked pretty damn fake.:o

[3dman27]

Hey my computer is still broke & I don't remember if I posted this before & I am too lazy to look for it so I am going to ask again. Is the fact that Paul Heyman was fired also effect the ECW PPV in anay way?
not to my knowledge

[3dman27]

i visited www.lordsof pain.net a few miniutes ago and read that shannon moore was injured in a car wreck last sunday while enrout home from a party the driver who alegedly caused the crash was described as "a renowned army seargeant"
get well soon mr. moore

[GLfan]

I read that too, I hope he has a speedy recovery.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Am I the only one that thought it was funny when Orton RKO'd Stacy? I don't think he is a full fledged heel yet, more like a guy out to prove something to everyone and he's taking it to the extreme. Orton has taken a major step down though, he's gone from world champ to RKO'ing a WWE diva.

Hopefully if/when he jumps to Smackdown! he'll get another shot at a more 'realistic' title reign....that is after Cena's had it for awhile.

[Rainbowbrite]

orton is staying on raw and will most likely take two months off to recover a shoulder injury which is going to require surgery. i dont know for sure if he will take time off but im pretty positive he will but he is injured thats why for the past four weeks we have not seen him wrestle.so dont expect a great match at mania between him and taker

[Sabretooth]

Hopefully means 13-0 for Taker.

[Shifty]

Hopefully means 13-0 for Taker.

Which is a shame because Orton really could've used that win to cement him as a heel.

[GLfan]

I don't think Taker likes putting other wrestlers over.

[3dman27]

Orton has taken a major step down though, he's gone from world champ to RKO'ing a WWE diva.

Hopefully if/when he jumps to Smackdown! he'll get another shot at a more 'realistic' title reign....that is after Cena's had it for awhile.what do you mean by "more realistic title reign"? :marv:

[John Constantine]

I don't think Taker likes putting other wrestlers over.

The Deadman version certainly doesn't. The biker version of Undertaker however.....

[John Constantine]

what do you mean by "more realistic title reign"? :marv:

I'm guessing one longer than a month and wasn't marred by an out-of-nowhere face turn.

[3dman27]

ittturns out that smackdown will be delayed 48 hours till saturday night this week due to a basketball game in the orlando fla market i wonder why the smackdown previewdidn't mention it it usually does

[Sabretooth]

Hahaha.Kurt Angle is so badass.:D

[The Techno Bat]

The whole John Cena vs JBL storyline is just not doing it for me. It is a complete rehash and rip of the old Stone Cold vs Vince McMahon promo's and stuff they used to do.

I was thinking the other day about the tag team division in the WWE and what they should do to improve it, let me know what you guys think.

Both Raw and Smackdown combined have like 6 true tag teams:
1. La Resistance
2. The Dudley Boys (when they get back)
3. The Basham Brothers
4. William Regal & Tajiri- champions
5. Rey Mysterio & Eddie Guerro- champions
6. Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas (recently)

Now that is it for true tag teams, I don't really count other teams that are thrown together for a night, that is stupid. And what is just as stupid is having two tag team title belts. What I think they should do is drop to one tag team champion and have whoever the champions are fight on both shows, building up the tag team division and really bringing interest to it again.

[3dman27]

whe the brand exension[yucck] started the champions WERE available to both shows i'm not sure WHY they stopped that

[hotrain33]

To seperate both shows as two different brands. Anyway the explanation that was given for raw to have it's own champion was because then wwe champion lesner wanted to be exclusive to smackdown only. If tna becomes popular as the wwe the brands will be joined.

[The Techno Bat]

To seperate both shows as two different brands. Anyway the explanation that was given for raw to have it's own champion was because then wwe champion lesner wanted to be exclusive to smackdown only. If tna becomes popular as the wwe the brands will be joined.

Excellent point about TNA become hugely successful, I think it would put enough fear into Vince to throw the brands back together

:batman:

[John Constantine]

The whole John Cena vs JBL storyline is just not doing it for me. It is a complete rehash and rip of the old Stone Cold vs Vince McMahon promo's and stuff they used to do.

I was thinking the other day about the tag team division in the WWE and what they should do to improve it, let me know what you guys think.

Both Raw and Smackdown combined have like 6 true tag teams:
1. La Resistance
2. The Dudley Boys (when they get back)
3. The Basham Brothers
4. William Regal & Tajiri- champions
5. Rey Mysterio & Eddie Guerro- champions
6. Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas (recently)

Now that is it for true tag teams, I don't really count other teams that are thrown together for a night, that is stupid. And what is just as stupid is having two tag team title belts. What I think they should do is drop to one tag team champion and have whoever the champions are fight on both shows, building up the tag team division and really bringing interest to it again.

Too much crossover then. I think the WWE wants to maintain that both shows are separate except for about four or five special occasions. And I don't really mind that because then the time when the two rosters do get together it makes it more kickass.

And to be honest, when has the WWE(F) ever had a strong tag team division? It seems like since forever, they've really only had about three strong tag teams at a time and that was about it.

However, it would kickass if they decide to rejoin Jannetty and Michaels again and have them feud with Edge/Christian :o

[Super Kal]

by the way what happened to the Dudleys?

[John Constantine]

They were taken off tv to reduce their exposure shortly before Survivor Series. They were supposed to come back before WM but apparently that's not happening :confused:

[Super Kal]

They were taken off tv to reduce their exposure shortly before Survivor Series. They were supposed to come back before WM but apparently that's not happening :confused:
to reduce their exposure? it sounds like they were too hot for TV or something

[John Constantine]

No, it's just that people got tired of them I guess. Plus, they're schtick was getting a bit overused. So the WWE figured that they take them off tv for a while they could come back rejuvenated.....:confused:

[The Techno Bat]

I hear you about The Dudley's. The D-Von get the tables was a bit too much, and too predictable. Hopefully they can come back strong in a few month's.

The last time I think I can remember the tag team division being strong in the WWE would be in the late 80's eary 90's

[hotrain33]

Actually the early part of 2000 through 2002 where the tag team scene was good with great teams like the dudleys, edge and christian and the hardys. Since then the tag team divisions have been stale . The last great team to be disasembled has been hass and benjamin.

[3dman27]

i thought that the dudleys had been released or were on the injured list

[John Constantine]

Nah, the WWE would probably never do that. The Dudleys are too over for them to be outright released. Plus, they need to be around for the ECW reunion show.

[The Techno Bat]

What matches hold the most interest for Wrestlemania 21?

Personally it is a very boring and blah WM this year, not enough excitement.

But I am looking forward to that Sumo Match with The Big Show vs Akobono and Shawn Micheals vs HBK. Other than that the other matches are pretty predictable, and so so....

[John Constantine]

The 6-way ladder match sounds interesting. But that's because the majority of the talented wrestlers on Raw are in one match and that sounds enticing enough. Angle vs. HBK is definitely a must-see. Hell, anything with Angle is a must-see. And it seems like both title matches are pretty blah now. The Batista-Triple H one was interesting enough until they turned Batista face, then it kinda lost momentum. The Cena-JBL one just doesn't seem to capture my interest. I would've much preferred a Cena-Angle one.....but that would've meant no match with HBK :(

[Sabretooth]

Angle vs. HBK,6 way ladder, and HHH vs. Batista seem like they'r egonna be awesome.

As matches like Orton vs. Taker.I'm juts meh on it.Two wrestlers who don't know how to sell moves or put people over.It's really just a toss up. And Big Show vs Akebono is probably going to be interesting for the first minute and a half.

Oh,and don't get me started on that stupid JBL vs Cena match. The feud is nothing more than crap. JBL pisses off Cena,Cena comes to Smackdown all pissy and insane and destroying everything in his path yadda yadda yadda.I'm so fed up with face Cena.I really hope he turns heel after WM. Because when he's face he's just too much to handle.

Anybody see that debate last Thursday? Damn,some debate.Cena just did some watered down,already done before bull.

[John Constantine]

I've been fed up with Cena for a while. I don't know if he should turn back into a heel, but he should definitely get back the intensity he had as a heel, if anything. And I swear, if he becomes the champion and makes another spinner.....:mad:

[Sabretooth]

I've been fed up with Cena for a while. I don't know if he should turn back into a heel, but he should definitely get back the intensity he had as a heel, if anything. And I swear, if he becomes the champion and makes another spinner.....:mad:
I would drop Smackdown all together if he made another spinner. Why the U.S. one sold so well at the WWE Shopzone is beyond me. I hate when wrestlers do that to titles,it really is pretty disgraceful.:o

[3dman27]

did anyone see the dawn marie michell mccool match on smackdown now thats the kind of womens wrestling i like to see
as to 'mania i think they missed an ad parody they could have parodied kill bill with lilian garcia in the uma thurman role think about it the one woman in the wwe LEAST likely to wrestle playing the kill billcharacter MOST likely to finish someone off

[Diamondhead]

Dose anyone here watch it.....I do.I used to watch when new blood like Razor Ramón, Adam bombs or Zeus etc... Was on the air some of these guys have the perfect physique to portray superhero characters in movies etc…
Razor Ramón could’ve easily run for superman, Adam bombs was awesome even though I haven’t seem a lot of him I won’t forgot his look , and Zeus was terrific ,but at some point I didn’t like seeing him acting kind of dumb and let macho randy savage man dictate him like that .
One of my top favorite wrestlers was Shawn Michael
Because unlike the others he seems real and was living the way he was talking

Characters like Ultimate warrior or the undertaker seem a little too fake for me
Even though I love superhero comic book characters, it seems a little bit extreme when ones trying to talked and act like them in the real world.

Ultimate warrior seems he was reading his test from his hand when he was invoking his gods

I love to hate guys like Greg the hammer valentine a lot when I was a kid and he was doing a good Job at that
I remembered playboy body rose , (whom I love to hate as well ) took over the identity of the undertaker now (I think)
Hulk’ Hogan’s brother Brutus beef cake was awesome too
Jimmy fly Snuka was very impressive

Anyway nowadays too much talking...Not that I don’t like it, but I just don’t have time for wrestling anymore.

[Couchpotato-man]

I would drop Smackdown all together if he made another spinner. Why the U.S. one sold so well at the WWE Shopzone is beyond me. I hate when wrestlers do that to titles,it really is pretty disgraceful.:o

I like it when the heal does something to the belt like when Lance Storm covered up the US flag with the Canadian flag on the US title cause it makes it seem like the good guy is also fighting to restore the belt's honor. I didn't mind what Cena done cause it made the title seem special to him but I also could have done without it. I don't think it should be done to the world title though.

[Mr. Socko]

I'm sure you can tell I like wrestling by my username, but it's not as good as it use to be since Rock, Austin, and Foley leaving

but Austin is comming back and I'm sure we'll see Foley again

[Sabretooth]

Is it me or is the card for WM 21 sorta small?There's only like 5 or 6 matches.:confused:

[Mr. Socko]

theres 8, yeah it's kinda small for a WM card

but I'm expecting them to throw in some last minute no build up matches like a match for the tag titles and a match for the US title

[Shifty]

HHH vs Batista
JBL vs Cena
Angle vs HBK
Taker vs Orton
Ladder Match
Piper's Pit
Sumo Match
Trish/Christy
Eddie/Rey
Hall of Famers

[The Techno Bat]

theres 8, yeah it's kinda small for a WM card

but I'm expecting them to throw in some last minute no build up matches like a match for the tag titles and a match for the US title

The match for the tag team titles would have to come from the RAW brand perhaps Regal and Tajiri vs La Resistance for like the 18th million time

And maybe Orlando Jordan vs Mark Jindrak for the US Title

[3dman27]

HHH vs Batista
JBL vs Cena
Angle vs HBK
Taker vs Orton
Ladder Match
Piper's Pit
Sumo Match
Lita/Christy
Eddie/Rey
Hall of Famers
that should read trish/christy lita is christy's trainer

[3dman27]

what did the posters think of realpro wrestling that debuted yesterday? i taped it but haven't seen it yet