Wrestling

[John Constantine]

That one is supposed to take place a couple days before the WWE one I think. The Shane Douglas one might actually be better because it'll probably have former ECW stars who won't even consider showing up for the WWE show (Raven, Steve Corino, Jerry Lynn....).

Plus, Shane Douglas' show probably won't have "WWE presents ECW One Night Only" as it's title :rolleyes: :mad: :mad:

[3dman27]

Was there a specially designed Championship belt for the Rock? I remember looking in the WWE magazines and in the ads for replica championship belts, there was one called the Brahma Bull Championship belt.

Was there a real belt like that that just was never used or was it just something they made just for fans to have?
i think it was just for merchandising

[3dman27]

Yeah. I would have liked to have seen Kanyon get somewhere in the WWE, but after his injury he just wasn't the same. The sae can be said for Rhyno. He was on his way up before his injury and when he returned he was a regular on Heat. Now he's been released and no more Rhyno. I wonder if they would bring him back for that ECW reunion show that I've read about.
accoreding to what i've read rhyno hasnt been fired yet they'e keeping him off air [ie suspended]

[Hunter Rider]

Kanyon was a pretty damn cool wrestler. It's just too bad he never panned out in the WWE. It would be interesting to see him wrestle one or two matches in TNA though, maybe team him back up with DDP again.....

yeah kanyon was a good worker,his Mortis gimmik worked well for a while but when they unmasked him he became a comic character which was a waste IMO

[Weadazoid]

Kanyon was alot like Chrisitan, very talented, just a bit under sized, but fantastic in the ring and on the mic.

[Donnie Darko]

I thoiught the "Champagne" gimmick was the best.

[John Constantine]

You didn't like Positively Kanyon? ;)

[Hunter Rider]

Speaking of Kanyon does anyone remeber the gimmik he had when he was pretending to be DDP and diamoncutting everyone ? my favourite was when he was leaving in his car and jumped out at the gate and gave the security guard a cutter totaly stupid but funny.As usual though wcw failed to follow through with him

[John Constantine]

That was Positively Kanyon wasn't it? :confused: ;)

And yeah, I kinda liked that gimmick....even when he did wear that silly blonde wig :o

[Hunter Rider]

That was Positively Kanyon wasn't it? :confused: ;)

And yeah, I kinda liked that gimmick....even when he did wear that silly blonde wig :o

lol yeah it mightve been positvely kanyon. to be honest wcw changed guys around that much during the last period i have trouble remembering who had what gimmick when:( Saw Cena's first promo as champ and he did well IMO,now wwe needs to book him with Angle and Eddie to bring his ring work up to scratch although im sure a JBL rematch will be first.

[John Constantine]

I dunno, something about Cena's promo just bugged me. Like him saying that all those people that hated the spinner are "traditionalists like JBL". That alienates a whole lot of the wrestling audience actually. This might actually end up biting the WWE in the ass IMO, especially since this might actually cause a lot of people to start to boo Cena....

[Hunter Rider]

Good points,i think he needed to really push that it was about his freedom of expression and how he still respected the buissness.I also think they need to ease up on the "one of the ppl" line as well its getting a bit forced.My point really was that he delivered it well and it felt fresher than his more recent rap style promos that were getting old IMO

[John Constantine]

That, and get rid of the Chain Gang. That really annoys me :mad:

But this is probably how I see the next few months going like this: Cena has one final match against JBL. This finishes up their feud once and for all. This will then lead to a Cena-Angle feud, since Angle is apparently okay to still wrestle (yes!!!!). At this same time, Guerrero and REy continue their feud, with Guerrero playing the heel role finally. This will all lead to a Cena-Guerrero feud by SS with Guerrero (maybe) winning the title by then.


That'll be my dream outcome actually :o :(

[Sabretooth]

The only way I can see Cena's whole thing with traditionalists working is if he turns heel.Just think about it,he takes cheap shots at the fans,and saying they're traditionalists like JBL,or say something like that about them. But there's no way he can stay face and have it work.


Heh,and imagine the belt if he turned heel.It could say something bad about the fans.:D

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah the chain Gang Gimmick feels very 80's an Angle/Cena feud would raise his game for sure.As for the Guerro feud that would be cool and Eddie deserves another run IMo.I also get the feeling Randy will move to SD when he returns,he even said as much recently and him and Cena could be a great feud if handled right perhaps after the Eddie run with the belt IF he gets it

[Sabretooth]

That, and get rid of the Chain Gang. That really annoys me :mad:

But this is probably how I see the next few months going like this: Cena has one final match against JBL. This finishes up their feud once and for all. This will then lead to a Cena-Angle feud, since Angle is apparently okay to still wrestle (yes!!!!). At this same time, Guerrero and REy continue their feud, with Guerrero playing the heel role finally. This will all lead to a Cena-Guerrero feud by SS with Guerrero (maybe) winning the title by then.


That'll be my dream outcome actually :o :(
I'm so glad Angle's staying.He's WWE's 2nd top heel. And him leaving would take a huge chunk out of Smackdown.:o

[John Constantine]

The only way I can see Cena's whole thing with traditionalists working is if he turns heel.Just think about it,he takes cheap shots at the fans,and saying they're traditionalists like JBL,or say something like that about them. But there's no way he can stay face and have it work.


Heh,and imagine the belt if he turned heel.It could say something bad about the fans.:D

That might work then. Honestly, a heel Cena really does work better right now than a face one.

[John Constantine]

Yeah the chain Gang Gimmick feels very 80's an Angle/Cena feud would raise his game for sure.As for the Guerro feud that would be cool and Eddie deserves another run IMo.I also get the feeling Randy will move to SD when he returns,he even said as much recently and him and Cena could be a great feud if handled right perhaps after the Eddie run with the belt IF he gets it

That wouldn't be bad. Or hell, I could even see a Orton-Angle or Orton-Guerrero feud sometime in the future :up:

[Sabretooth]

Hmmm...According to wrestling-edge.com,Orton's been telling people he's going to SD! when he gets back....

Also,Edge is apparently going to Smackdown as well.Probably to get him away from Hardy....

[John Constantine]

I would rather move Hardy to SD. That way they can keep the gruesome twosome (Edge and Lita) together on Raw. Plus, Hardy can also help to bring a little spice back into the US title division.

[Duende Verde]

I'm sure they don't care that much who changes roster now because all of WWE shows seem to be moving to USA network.

Also, i think that the title push Rey Mysterio is going to get is because the WWE is going to air on Telemundo.

[Sabretooth]

Hahaha.This has got to be the most awesome promo HHH has ever done.:D


This is from the Raw show in Sydney:

''Benoit, Flair and Hunter get big face pops, while Batista gets the 2nd biggest pop of the night. Batista keeps posing until Flair tells him that Hunter will *****slap him if he poses again. Batista poses, Hunter gets on the mic and delivers the best promo of his career:

"Don't you worry, I'm gonna kick his ass soon enough" Hunter points to Batista, and a Guy dressed as Roddy Piper starts taunting Hunter from ringside.

"Each and Everyone of you jackoffs better sit down and shut up and sit down. I will come down there and slap the vegemite (Australian Spread we have on Toast and Bread) right out of your mouth." The Roddy Piper guy gets Hunters attention.

"Like I'm gonna take s*** from a *** in a dress!" Hunter points at Piper.

"Hey..I know 'Hot Rod' is something you want, but sit down and shut up."

Another guy (who is Indian) at ringside begins to taunt Hunter, leading to Hunter calling him 'Ghandi' and speaking gibberish Indian to the guy.

"Hey..Don't think I won't call the government, I know you're on some kind of Terror Watch List somewhere. I'll have your ass digging a hole back in a sand ditch in India somewhere any day now."

The Indian Guy does the Cena 'Can't see Me' gesture, and Hunter says "That's the problem..I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU!"

Source:PWInsider.com

[The Ghoul]

I think Ortan should go to Smackdown!. His run with Raw is pretty much over. No one cares any more. This heel turn is obviously not working either. He really needs a fresh start. Also I think on a business level Undertaker is really the only thing holding Smackdown! together, but I think for a creative level he is much better suited with Raw. They should jump start another Kane/Undertaker fued for the umteenth time. Those never fail. Or bring in some more dark characters, because watching 'Taker fight just some dude looks & feels kinda cheesey (even by professional wrestling standards). Unlike him fighting the original Mankind (the tortured soul with a mask & burlap sack) which felt kinda dramatic & creepy & was really cool to watch. I like how they used to treat The Undertaker like a being on his own. For instance the Undertaker comic which made him look like a powerful necro-scorcerer. Or this WWF homevideo tape called "The Undertaker: The Phenom" which was for the most part a standard chronicle tape, but they got to Freddy Blassy narrorate it because he had that really smokey omniscient voice & it played out like some biblical journey.

[PyroChamber]

It's kinda funny how some people forget that Orton started on Smackdown.

[The Ghoul]

I remeber that. But because Orton didn't do **** on Smackdown! I don't talk about it. It wasn't his fault entirely though because he was injured. I though the RNN segmant was funny because he was kinda making fun of himself. He knew he was unknown & he used it to become a great heel by annoying them with the recovery results of someone they didn't know.

[PyroChamber]

Oh lord, has anyone seen this?

http://nodq.com/news/115154892.shtml

[Sava]

Hahaha.This has got to be the most awesome promo HHH has ever done.:D


This is from the Raw show in Sydney:

''Benoit, Flair and Hunter get big face pops, while Batista gets the 2nd biggest pop of the night. Batista keeps posing until Flair tells him that Hunter will *****slap him if he poses again. Batista poses, Hunter gets on the mic and delivers the best promo of his career:

"Don't you worry, I'm gonna kick his ass soon enough" Hunter points to Batista, and a Guy dressed as Roddy Piper starts taunting Hunter from ringside.

"Each and Everyone of you jackoffs better sit down and shut up and sit down. I will come down there and slap the vegemite (Australian Spread we have on Toast and Bread) right out of your mouth." The Roddy Piper guy gets Hunters attention.

"Like I'm gonna take s*** from a *** in a dress!" Hunter points at Piper.

"Hey..I know 'Hot Rod' is something you want, but sit down and shut up."

Another guy (who is Indian) at ringside begins to taunt Hunter, leading to Hunter calling him 'Ghandi' and speaking gibberish Indian to the guy.

"Hey..Don't think I won't call the government, I know you're on some kind of Terror Watch List somewhere. I'll have your ass digging a hole back in a sand ditch in India somewhere any day now."

The Indian Guy does the Cena 'Can't see Me' gesture, and Hunter says "That's the problem..I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU!"

Source:PWInsider.com

LMAO! :D

[Hunter Rider]

Source: Wrestling-Observer Newsletter

At last week's WrestleMania, Rhyno destroyed a ceramic flower pot at the Universal Sheraton Hotel, creating the incident that led to his removal from World Wrestling Entertainment. Sources attributed the incident to a fight with his wife, although little was known about the true cause.

Reportedly, Rhyno and his wife are undergoing a nasty separation, with his wife planning to take their daughter to Germany. His wife showed up at the PPV without Rhyno's daughter, prompting him to express his discontent with the fact that he would not get to see his child. An argument broke out and Rhyno picked up an extremely heavy flower pot, smashing it in frustration. Hotel security actually stepped in, and Tommy Dreamer was dispatched to bring Rhyno upstairs. Upon getting off the elevator, Johnny Ace met the duo, but Rhyno snapped and tried to go back down. He made it clear that he had nothing left to lose and didn't care if he was fired.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: WWE.com

-- The following comes from WWE.com:

"Matt Hardy and Rhyno have been released. World Wrestling Entertainment wishes them the best in their future endeavors."

[Twitch]

Source: WWE.com

-- The following comes from WWE.com:

"Matt Hardy and Rhyno have been released. World Wrestling Entertainment wishes them the best in their future endeavors."

Sweet Hardy can go to TNA now and maybe Rhyno can too.

[Sabretooth]

Source: Wrestling-Observer Newsletter

At last week's WrestleMania, Rhyno destroyed a ceramic flower pot at the Universal Sheraton Hotel, creating the incident that led to his removal from World Wrestling Entertainment. Sources attributed the incident to a fight with his wife, although little was known about the true cause.

Reportedly, Rhyno and his wife are undergoing a nasty separation, with his wife planning to take their daughter to Germany. His wife showed up at the PPV without Rhyno's daughter, prompting him to express his discontent with the fact that he would not get to see his child. An argument broke out and Rhyno picked up an extremely heavy flower pot, smashing it in frustration. Hotel security actually stepped in, and Tommy Dreamer was dispatched to bring Rhyno upstairs. Upon getting off the elevator, Johnny Ace met the duo, but Rhyno snapped and tried to go back down. He made it clear that he had nothing left to lose and didn't care if he was fired.
I feel sorry for Rhyno. His wife is a ***** if she wouldn't let him see his kid.

And as for Matt Hardy.Well,F**k you Edge :mad:

[3dman27]

i agree with you on both points sabertooth

[Go Web Go!]

Matt hardy being released came as a surprise to me. I expected them to move him to SmackDown to avoid the Edge/Lita situation, but wow, they just cut him loose. As for Rhyno, I really liked him and thought he had alot of potential, but he just wasn't used the right way. It's better off that he go to TNA and jump start his career. He's still young.

[angelus777]

Alright now we can have a Hardy Boyz reunion!

Hey can anyone post alot pics of REY Mysterios back tattoo, trying to get one like that. His site has small pics of it, i need one thats big and clear?

[Newlife]

They should bring Sting into WWE. He was awesome in WCW.

What ever happened to Goldberg? and does anyone know if they will be doing one of those drafts again where they pick names and then the wrestlers that are picked then switch shows?

[John Constantine]

Source: WWE.com

-- The following comes from WWE.com:

"Matt Hardy and Rhyno have been released. World Wrestling Entertainment wishes them the best in their future endeavors."

:(

Well at least this might bring a Hardy Boyz reunion and they can put on great matches in TNA against AMW......

I hope this ends up biting the WWE in the ass though....they need a real awakening :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com

There will definitely be some backstage heat on Edge and Lita in some circles within WWE due to the release of Matt Hardy. When it comes down to it, Hardy was simply the guy who WWE could afford to lose to lessen the tension between the trio. WWE is in the process if trying to make Edge their next big star. Management has not always been super high on Hardy's interviews either and felt that oft he two guys, Edge was more marketable. Management is also not high on the internet and the news that revolves around it regarding WWE and it didn't help at all for Matt to make the situation public, or confirm reports that had been posted. Lita and Edge were looked at by management as the two who never took the situation public and kept it very low profile.

Rhyno's release isn't going to sit well with some inner circles within WWE either. Rhyno did create a scene in the hotel lobby and gave WWE an excuse to get rid of him. WWE management was never high on his look or in ring style either. He has been going through some tough times the last several months including a separation from his wife. She is planning to move to Germany and will be taking his daughter. This now leaves him jobless during the tough times. Rhyno could wind up with TNA as well, although he would work under a different name.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWTorch.com

Hulk Hogan is currently not scheduled for any WWE appearances at this point, nor is there any talk of it right now. It's expected that there will be some discussion about one final match for Hulk Hogan in WWE, possibly at next year's WrestleMania in Chicago.

The insane chanting for Hogan at the Hall of Fame ceremony really surrounded interest in wanting to see him one more time, with the "one more match" chants echo'ing throughout the building. Shawn Michaels has really talked a lot lately about wanting a match with Hogan, while Steve Austin said it's not exactly a top priority for him. Hogan on the other hand, seems to be all about a match with Austin. Austin being the smart guy that he is, is probably leary due to what happened when Hogan faced off with The Rock at WrestleMania a few years ago.

As of right now, nothing is planned. But WWE wants Hogan one more time, likely on a pay-per view to try and cash in on a "retirement match" of sorts, and the most desired opponent, hands down, is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. It should be interesting to see where things go from here.

[John Constantine]

I really wouldn't mind Hogan returning for WM 22 just for one final fight against the second biggest icon the WWE had.....besides Hogan has fought everybody else important, even Vince McMahon :D

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah i wouldn't mind a battle between the two biggest Gimmicks of all time(Austin 3:16 and Hulkamania)I really hope that HBK doesn't wrestle him though i don't want him to job to Hogan:mad:

[John Constantine]

Oh god, the WWE is having another Diva Search this year.....:(

[Hunter Rider]

well tehy wouldn't want to actualy promote wrestling now would they:(

[John Constantine]

I actually thought they would come to their senses eventually :(


But I guess they feel the need to introduce more worthless women into the WWE who's only attributes are T and A.


Not that that's a bad thing, but it certainly doesn't need to take all the airtime the first diva search took :o

[Sabretooth]

Great.We get to see a bunch of money whores shake their asses instead of keeping quality wrestlers like Hardy.:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

I wish wwe would lose the hang up they have with big guys,i'm hoping Rey's push towards the US title is a sign of this b/c i think paul London could be a huge star for them if he was given an oppertunity beyond just being boxed as a cruiserweight

[Sabretooth]

I wish wwe would lose the hang up they have with big guys,i'm hoping Rey's push towards the US title is a sign of this b/c i think paul London could be a huge star for them if he was given an oppertunity beyond just being boxed as a cruiserweight
It'll never happen because Vince will always love the big guys.Why do you think Batista,HHH,Lesnar,JBL,etc. get the title?'Cause they're all 6 feet and up. I'm honestly suprised they gave Guerrero the belt,especially since he won it from Lesnar,who was like one of Vince's favorite hard-ons.


On another note,finally Batista is gonna get some screen time tonight.If WWE have the balls,HHH won't interrupt.Which,in other words,means HHH's is gonna be comin' :(

[John Constantine]

I wish wwe would lose the hang up they have with big guys,i'm hoping Rey's push towards the US title is a sign of this b/c i think paul London could be a huge star for them if he was given an oppertunity beyond just being boxed as a cruiserweight

I'm hoping for that too.


Just imagine if the WWE would've gone with Heyman's plan a couple years ago and actually let Rey win the Championship title. Just imagine how much things would've changed then ;) :o

[Sabretooth]

Speaking of crusierweights.Is it me or is Kidman over the weight limit for cruiserweights? I mean,he looks like a heavyweight,and should be in that division.:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

I'm hoping for that too.


Just imagine if the WWE would've gone with Heyman's plan a couple years ago and actually let Rey win the Championship title. Just imagine how much things would've changed then ;) :o

The WWE suits fear heyman:mad: I just wish there was more importance placed on in ring talent ,watching guys like Shelton,Y2J and Christian wrestle midcard is sadening,these guys should be in the main events.I hope wwe push RVD properly when he gets back.................but we both know they won't:(

[John Constantine]

Speaking of crusierweights.Is it me or is Kidman over the weight limit for cruiserweights? I mean,he looks like a heavyweight,and should be in that division.:confused:

That's what I want to see as well actually. He's bulked up a lot the last year or so. I could really see him fighting for the US title. Same with Chavo......

[Hunter Rider]

Speaking of crusierweights.Is it me or is Kidman over the weight limit for cruiserweights? I mean,he looks like a heavyweight,and should be in that division.:confused:

Yeah kidman is like Y2J was in wcw too heavy for the division,he's another talented wrestler shelved due to lack of charisma

[John Constantine]

The WWE suits fear heyman:mad: I just wish there was more importance placed on in ring talent ,watching guys like Shelton,Y2J and Christian wrestle midcard is sadening,these guys should be in the main events.I hope wwe push RVD properly when he gets back.................but we both know they won't:(

If Shelton isn't in the main event by next year, I'll be pissed off. That guy is probably one of the best all-around wrestlers in the WWE right now. I mean the moves that guy does....****ing impressive.

Christian should be in the main event instead of Edge, but that's never gonna happen :(

[Sabretooth]

Benjamin is AMAZING. It's a damn SIN he isn't in the main event.

Though it's pretty cool HHH jobbed to him twice.:o

[Hunter Rider]

If Shelton isn't in the main event by next year, I'll be pissed off. That guy is probably one of the best all-around wrestlers in the WWE right now. I mean the moves that guy does....****ing impressive.

Christian should be in the main event instead of Edge, but that's never gonna happen :(

Shelton is the best pure athelete with natural talent ive seen since HBk ,even more so than Angle or Orton,His finish last week when he pinned jerhico was amazing.As for Edge i honestly feel both guys are deserving of main event status,Edge's sex activities aside:o

[Sabretooth]

Edge is a good wrestler yes,but this whole ''I GOT SCREWED OUT OF THE TITLE'' crap is getting annoying.It's been annoying even before his whole thing with Matt. The sooner the ''I got screwed'' angle's over,the better.:o

[John Constantine]

Shelton is the best pure athelete with natural talent ive seen since HBk ,even more so than Angle or Orton,His finish last week when he pinned jerhico was amazing.As for Edge i honestly feel both guys are deserving of main event status,Edge's sex activities aside:o

Probably the one stumbling point with Shelton is his mic skills. But I'm hoping if he does become champion, they'll just push him for what he does in the ring kinda like Benoit....

[Hunter Rider]

Edge is a good wrestler yes,but this whole ''I GOT SCREWED OUT OF THE TITLE'' crap is getting annoying.It's been annoying even before his whole thing with Matt. The sooner the ''I got screwed'' angle's over,the better.:o

well im hoping last week was a move away as he's now mr money in the bank

[John Constantine]

Edge is a good wrestler yes,but this whole ''I GOT SCREWED OUT OF THE TITLE'' crap is getting annoying.It's been annoying even before his whole thing with Matt. The sooner the ''I got screwed'' angle's over,the better.:o

If done right, that could be a pretty entertaining gimmick ala Chris Jericho when he first turned heel in WCW..

[Hunter Rider]

Probably the one stumbling point with Shelton is his mic skills. But I'm hoping if he does become champion, they'll just push him for what he does in the ring kinda like Benoit....

well when he did speak i thought he was OK with a bit more practice he could be good enough to get by like Benoit and his talent does the rest.

[JINoside]

:(

Well at least this might bring a Hardy Boyz reunion and they can put on great matches in TNA against AMW......

I hope this ends up biting the WWE in the ass though....they need a real awakening :up:


I thought the same exact thing when i heard about this. It would be a good thing because that means he'll be able to work again with his bro. That is if he chooses to go to TNA. Change a negative into a positive. But then again if he does, it would be great if Rhyno goes with him aswell. Rhyno would be able to perform like he use to back in his ECW days, not as a jobber. The Pounce vs The Gore :joker: .....

If this does happen though, i hope Jeff Jerret finaly decides to give up the title WELL before that would ever happen. Hes basicallty the major reason i don't watch TNA anymore. And people thought HHH had an ego......

[Donnie Darko]

oh crap! I was out of the room and missed Hurricane's interruption. When I got back to my room, it was just HHH outside of the ring like "you wanna fight me?!" I was hoping it was JUST Hurricane, so maybe he could get put over a little bit (even if he loses)

[John Constantine]

hahahahahah.....The Hurricane getting put over :D

What are you gonna tell me next? That they might actually put Jericho back into the main event :eek: :p

[Sabretooth]

No,the new main eventer is soo J.R. :D

[John Constantine]

So....anyone really think Hogan might show up for Backlash? ;)


When I first heard "tag team", I really did think that HBK was gonna get Marty Jannetty to help him out....:o


Oh, and it really does look like WWE is doing some spring cleaning now. Besides the previous releases of Rhyno, Matt Hardy, and Paul Bearer, two more wrestlers have been released, one of them was Jesus, Carlito's bodyguard a few months back....

[Caliber]

oh crap! I was out of the room and missed Hurricane's interruption. When I got back to my room, it was just HHH outside of the ring like "you wanna fight me?!" I was hoping it was JUST Hurricane, so maybe he could get put over a little bit (even if he loses)

He mentioned the Thing and used "Its clobbering time" to threaten Triple h.

[PyroChamber]

No,the new main eventer is soo J.R. :DWhy do I get the feeling that next week RAW is gonna be in Oklahoma?

The only time something like this happen, or anything happening to J.R., it usually happens when they're in his home state.

Also, anyone find it ironic that the day we find out that Matt Hardy was let go they show that segment with Kane and Lita?

[GLfan]

Also, anyone find it ironic that the day we find out that Matt Hardy was let go they show that segment with Kane and Lita?It's total BS!Why is Hardy getting penalized for what Lita and Edge did, makes no sense at all. I feel like not watching WWE anymore and just sticking with TNA.

[angelus777]

No way, this is Hogans last match, tag team with HBK against Muhammed and Davahatever??? I thought his last match should be either against Austin or Randy Orton in a greatest legend he has to beat to get into the Hall of fame. I come on his last match should be a main event at mainia.

[3dman27]

i thought whenever the wwe released a wrestler they had an announcement to that effect on wwe.com but wheni looked there was absolutely NOTHING on either rhyno's or matt hardy's release

[GLfan]

Hopefully Matt will get picked up by TNA and join Jeff.

[3dman27]

agreed the wwe gave matt the shaft

[kane9321]

Just watched the warrior speech at the UCONN. I have to say he handled himself pretty well despite the hostility .

Damn...that guy looked different now.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/morbius/bscap014.jpg



holy crap,he looks like a caveman!

[GLfan]

agreed the wwe gave matt the shaft
Have you read from your favorite source that Matt was let go, due to his airing their laundry on his website. And that counted as bad conduct against him since he was representing WWE. It still sucks though and I hope Matt sues.

[kane9321]

I'm thinking kane was going after trish (to kick her arse)but we see him looking for..lita?.then they start to kiss...I'm like wtf is this.I feel real bad for matt. If THEY make shelton benjamin turn heel...I might be done with the wwe!

[3dman27]

Have you read from your favorite source that Matt was let go, due to his airing their laundry on his website. And that counted as bad conduct against him since he was representing WWE. It still sucks though and I hope Matt sues.
maybe he should i though of something remember brock lenasr complaining of a contract clause prhibiting him from wrestling anywhere but the wwe? does matt have anything like that in HIS CONTRACT?

[The Sage]

I'm very pissed off about Matt Hardy getting release, especially after what happened. As for this "Hardy not being marketable" stuff, WWE basically destroyed his V1 gimmick. It was a good gimmick. They didn't put him over, made him look weak and stuck him in crappy feuds. Of course he's not marketable, after they did everything to not make him marketable.

[3dman27]

i just visited www.lordsofpain.net and learned that nora greenwald aka molly holly has requested and recived her release from the wwe i wonder if this was a protest of the matt hardy -lita-edge situation or something else

good bye and good luck ms greenwald you were MY kind of diva

[The Sage]

Molly's gone? Well, there goes quality women wrestling, most of it anyway.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

All that's left is Lita and Victoria.

[3dman27]

Molly's gone? Well, there goes quality women wrestling, most of it anyway.
i'm afraid you're right

[Go Web Go!]

Poor Molly. Cn't help but wonder who's next on the chopping block...

[3dman27]

actually gwg she ASKED to be released acording to what i read

[John Constantine]

It's total BS!Why is Hardy getting penalized for what Lita and Edge did, makes no sense at all. I feel like not watching WWE anymore and just sticking with TNA.

Probably the same reason why Orton was allowed to put **** in a diva's purse and still kept his job.....

[John Constantine]

i just visited www.lordsofpain.net and learned that nora greenwald aka molly holly has requested and recived her release from the wwe i wonder if this was a protest of the matt hardy -lita-edge situation or something else

good bye and good luck ms greenwald you were MY kind of diva

Or it could just be that the WWE doesn't seem to care about women's wrestling in the first place and she wants to get out of dodge.....

[Metamorpho1977]

I only watch TNA anyway. The wrestling is better, the storylines are a little better than WWE. If I watch WWE, it's because nothing else is on.

[John Constantine]

Better wrestling, I'll admit TNA does have that. But better storylines? I really doesn't see that as much. Of what I've seen of TNA, it seems a lot like WCW during it's declining years....

[Dark Carnage]

Could someone clear something up for me?

I was surprised to hear Matt Hardy got released, but because I haven't watched it for ages, I would like to know why everyone is mentioning Edge and Lita in the same sentence as his leaving.

They get it together behind his back or something?

[The Sage]

Yep, Lita cheated on Matt with Edge.

[angelus777]

What,they fired Molly , wats up with dat, she is shiete better than christy, victoria, and every diva not lita and trish. They way underused her.

[Hunter Rider]

ROH star CM Punk worked the RAW taping last night. He worked a match taped for heat with Maven and Simon Dean.

Joey Matthews and Johnny Nitro also worked a dark match.

There was at least one instance of a confiscated sign at RAW that said "I'll Miss Matt"

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ
We're told Molly Holly approached WWE management last night prior to RAW about getting her release from WWE. She was not cut due to cost cutting measures.

Holly had been unhappy in recent months and wanted out. She also found out yesterday that there was going to be another RAW diva search and also had to 'job' to Christy Hemme on RAW. The RAW diva search winners get paid more then many of the diva's.

We'll keep you posted.
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Source: 1Wrestling.com

-- Recent WWE cast-off's Rhyno and Matt Hardy will continue to be paid by WWE for the next 90 days, and thus unavailable to work for TNA (or any pro wrestling company, for that matter) until July 10th, 2005.

-- Matt Hardy is fine to use that name, as it is his real name. Rhyno however cannot use the name in that spelling as it is owned by WWE. Terry Gerin the man himself has however worked as Rhino in the past in ECW, and other companies before that.

[The Techno Bat]

The Hardy Boys vs America's Most Wanted for the TNA Tag Team Titles? ? ?
I think it will be happening now. I can't wait to see Matt and Jeff back together again. It will definately help bring TNA to another level.

[John Constantine]

From WZ
We're told Molly Holly approached WWE management last night prior to RAW about getting her release from WWE. She was not cut due to cost cutting measures.

Holly had been unhappy in recent months and wanted out. She also found out yesterday that there was going to be another RAW diva search and also had to 'job' to Christy Hemme on RAW. The RAW diva search winners get paid more then many of the diva's.

We'll keep you posted.
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Source: 1Wrestling.com

-- Recent WWE cast-off's Rhyno and Matt Hardy will continue to be paid by WWE for the next 90 days, and thus unavailable to work for TNA (or any pro wrestling company, for that matter) until July 10th, 2005.

-- Matt Hardy is fine to use that name, as it is his real name. Rhyno however cannot use the name in that spelling as it is owned by WWE. Terry Gerin the man himself has however worked as Rhino in the past in ECW, and other companies before that.


I'm pretty sure he can wrestle as just Rhino in TNA. I think the only reason why they changed his name to "Rhyno" in the first place was to not get into yet another battle with Marvel over names....:confused:

[PyroChamber]

Source: PWInsider

-- Several wrestlers in WWE are pretty ticked off that WWE is doing another $250,000 diva search. At a time when money is down, it does not sit well with many of the wrestlers that another person will walk off the street, with no wrestling experience, and be given such a large contract.

-- Christy Hemme does get around well with people backstage and is said to be respectful, however she is still making a lot more money than most of the wrestlers, and hasn’t paid any dues to earn it. This obviously does not sit well with certain wrestlers.

The Diva search winners get paid more than the other divas? What kind of **** is that? Is that just Christy or all the women in the WWE that were in the Diva search?

[The Ghoul]

Does it matter? The fact still remains that money is down & stupid **** like this (that didn't go over with the fans the first time) isn't helping. Besides I am pretty sure that is why there are so many cut backs. I'm not sure Molly would have been aloud to go so easily if they had the money to keep her. And I personally think the Matt Hardy/Rhino firings were complete bull**** because Matt (along with Jeff) has been a major contibuter to the sudden rise of WWE during the monday night wars. And Rhino deserves a lot more considering the ****ty time he was having for the past year or so. I personally think there are too many Divas already. & if Raw needs more than 5 (1 of which isn't being used anymore really) send a couple from Smackdown they have enough useless women to fill Now magazine. & if you wanna fire some people how about firing Chris Masters. I saw a dark match with him about a month before his on screen debut & he was then & still is now ****ing boring. Stephen Richards better demand a push quick because if he doesn't make an impact soon I fear he maybe next.

[3dman27]

From WZ
We're told Molly Holly approached WWE management last night prior to RAW about getting her release from WWE. She was not cut due to cost cutting measures.

Holly had been unhappy in recent months and wanted out. She also found out yesterday that there was going to be another RAW diva search and also had to 'job' to Christy Hemme on RAW. The RAW diva search winners get paid more then many of the diva's.

We'll keep you posted.
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Source: 1Wrestling.com

-- Recent WWE cast-off's Rhyno and Matt Hardy will continue to be paid by WWE for the next 90 days, and thus unavailable to work for TNA (or any pro wrestling company, for that matter) until July 10th, 2005.

-- Matt Hardy is fine to use that name, as it is his real name. Rhyno however cannot use the name in that spelling as it is owned by WWE. Terry Gerin the man himself has however worked as Rhino in the past in ECW, and other companies before that.
i was wondering why jeff hardy could still use that name on TNA no i know they were using their REAL NAMES up till now i thought all wrestlers ring names were ALIASES owned by the wrestling promotions for trademark purposes at least when i visited wwe.com yesterday the had a statemen about nora/molly's release matt and rhyno didn't get THAT :hyper:

[angelus777]

WWE is becoming stupid.

Fire Rhyno and Matt, what the hell, they should have sent them to SD.

Fire all the uselesss divas and only keep Christy, and should've gave Molly a huge push for the title.

Fire Chris Masters and Heidenrich and the Basham brothers, they all suck and are boring. Steven Richards needs a huge push.

Evolution should have added Christian, Kane and Steven Richards to it.

[3dman27]

WWE is becoming stupid.

Fire Rhyno and Matt, what the hell, they should have sent them to SD.

Fire all the uselesss divas and only keep Christy, and should've gave Molly a huge push for the title.


yes vince the wince screwed up royaly on these two matters molly should have at least been allowed to win her final match but NO the almighty christy hemme had to win i'm gonna take a break from the wwe for a couple of weeks maybe nora greenwald can join TNAwhen her 90 day grace period from the wwe is up

MOLLY RULES LITA DROOLS
CHRISTY DROOLS TOO

[Metamorpho1977]

Better wrestling, I'll admit TNA does have that. But better storylines? I really doesn't see that as much. Of what I've seen of TNA, it seems a lot like WCW during it's declining years....

Well maybe not better storylines, but at least as good as. Maybe if they get some of the influx from the released WWE wrestlers, they'll have some good material to work with. I've heard that TNA takes a lot of advice from the wrestlers and uses it in storylines. That's something that WWE only does for HHH.

[Goldenage Batman]

What did Matt do to get fired?......

[hotrain33]

Hardy had written on his website that lita and edge were having an affair. This action and the differences between him and one of the agents of the wwe may of resulted in matt being let go.

[Weadazoid]

What did Matt do to get fired?......


not a thing, you have to feel bad for the guy, he loses his long time girl to this affair, the WWE acts as though they are going to punish Edge at first, then see that Litas Pressence as a face is realy hurt by the affair with Edge.


Fans (informed fans who troll the internet for dirt) start chanting:

Hardy, Hardy Hardy

at Edge and Lita, and it comes off very bad, because it makes no sense in terms of anything seen on TV

So what do they do?

Fire Hardy cause they are trying to push Edge.

[John Constantine]

Does it matter? The fact still remains that money is down & stupid **** like this (that didn't go over with the fans the first time) isn't helping. Besides I am pretty sure that is why there are so many cut backs. I'm not sure Molly would have been aloud to go so easily if they had the money to keep her. And I personally think the Matt Hardy/Rhino firings were complete bull**** because Matt (along with Jeff) has been a major contibuter to the sudden rise of WWE during the monday night wars. And Rhino deserves a lot more considering the ****ty time he was having for the past year or so. I personally think there are too many Divas already. & if Raw needs more than 5 (1 of which isn't being used anymore really) send a couple from Smackdown they have enough useless women to fill Now magazine. & if you wanna fire some people how about firing Chris Masters. I saw a dark match with him about a month before his on screen debut & he was then & still is now ****ing boring. Stephen Richards better demand a push quick because if he doesn't make an impact soon I fear he maybe next.


I'm surprised he didn't get released with the major purges late last year. But I guess they want him around just for the ECW PPV and then they'll probably let the poor guy go....:(

[Sabretooth]

What did Matt do to get fired?......
He got stabbed in the back by his friend.And paid for it. :(

[John Constantine]

WWE is becoming stupid.

Fire Rhyno and Matt, what the hell, they should have sent them to SD.

Fire all the uselesss divas and only keep Christy, and should've gave Molly a huge push for the title.

Fire Chris Masters and Heidenrich and the Basham brothers, they all suck and are boring. Steven Richards needs a huge push.

Evolution should have added Christian, Kane and Steven Richards to it.

If they don't release Masters, send him down to OVW at least. The guy really needs waaaay more conditioning, both wrestling-wise and on the mic.

[John Constantine]

What did Matt do to get fired?......

He let loose a lot of the specifics behind the Edge-Lita affair, while the other two stayed behind the scenes. The WWE thought that was a bit unprofessional, hence the release.


That, and the fact that the WWE seems to not like Matt Hardy in the first place :o

[Sabretooth]

They say he wasn't marketable.Well of course he wasn't.They ****ing MURDERED his V1 gimmick,which by the way kicked. And he spent most of his days putting over the big men.I still remember when they made him look like an ass and put him in the ring with Goldberg.:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

If they don't release Masters, send him down to OVW at least. The guy really needs waaaay more conditioning, both wrestling-wise and on the mic.

yeah i thought he might be ok but he is weak on the mic and his stupid full nelson finisher and all round avrageness is glaring when see on Raw,looks like there pushing him though cos he's big:rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

Haha,I remember in his last match the crowd was chanting,''BORING!BORING!BORING!'' :D

[John Constantine]

They say he wasn't marketable.Well of course he wasn't.They ****ing MURDERED his V1 gimmick,which by the way kicked. And he spent most of his days putting over the big men.I still remember when they made him look like an ass and put him in the ring with Goldberg.:rolleyes:

The Mattitude V 1.0 gimmick was probably one of the better gimmicks around. I totally loved his entrance video and music. They should've gone much further with that gimmick than what they ended up doing....

[John Constantine]

yeah i thought he might be ok but he is weak on the mic and his stupid full nelson finisher and all round avrageness is glaring when see on Raw,looks like there pushing him though cos he's big:rolleyes:

And I really don't see any fans clamoring to see him. I mean didnt' the failure of the "reflection of perfection" Mark Jindrak a big enough sign that nobody wants to see another Narcissist clone? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

And I really don't see any fans clamoring to see him. I mean didnt' the failure of the "reflection of perfection" Mark Jindrak a big enough sign that nobody wants to see another Narcissist clone? :confused:
ya'd think but it seems even the fans chanting boring for both him and Heidenreich hasn't deterred wwe from using themhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

I think we'll get HBK vs Hogan at Sumerslam and it was also interesting to hear orton talk about coming after Batista on Raw when i thought he was going to SD

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I read an article where Orton pretty much confirms he'll be moving to Smackdown! once he returns. I'm hoping that this years lottery is more exciting than last years. They need to mix things up and switch some big names...Undertaker to RAW, Orton to SD!, Mysterio to RAW and Hurricane to SD!....and so on

[Sabretooth]

Mysterio to Raw would suck.No offense,it's just he's finally being pushed,and I don't want him on Heat thanks to HHH.

[brainchild81]

Ditto

[John Constantine]

I'd rather Undertaker stay on SD as well. If they really need to move someone from SD to Raw, it should be Luther Reigns. He could help shake up things with the IC title.....

[Sabretooth]

I sort of want Kane to come to SD! Batista is the new ''monster'' and Kane can be the same for Smackdown,if used correctly.:o

[Newlife]

When is the next Lottery?

[Sabretooth]

Not confirmed yet.:o


Ona nother note.I just read an article saying Stephanie McMahon is gonna be working really close with Vince. Expect HHH to win the title in the next PPV.:(

[John Constantine]

A perfect opportunity for the draft would've been during the supershow next week, when both Smackdown and Raw are taped at the same time. But alas, they decided not to go that route :down


Something tells me they might not even go with the draft...:(

[GLfan]

Sign The Petition To Bring Back Matt Hardy!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?viazon16&1

According to several backstage sources, Triple H injured his neck at Monday's RAW telecast. His condition was so bad that, at one point, he collapsed.

The initial injury occurred during the match with Rosey and Hurricane; specifically, when Rosey's legdrop put pressure on Triple H's neck and head. It was originally believed that he had a concussion, but sources have not been able to confirm the validity of such a statement.

After the match, he iced his neck and felt well enough to go back out for the final segment with Jim Ross and Batista. However, this idea turned out to be ill-advised and Triple H reaggravated the neck injury. He passed out shortly after returning to the back.

Triple H's injury was not only the likely factor in WWE's decision to cancel the advertised tag match for post-RAW, but a factor in Stephanie McMahon's decision to remain home and skip her planned trip to Ohio Valley Wrestling.

Below are the upcoming WWE DVD release dates:

WWE WrestleMania XXI
Release Date: 5/10/2005

WWE Backlash 2005
Release Date: 5/31/2005

WWE Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80's
Release Date: 6/14/2005

WWE Road Warriors - Life & Death of the Most Dominate Team
Release Date: 6/14/2005

WWE Judgment Day
Release Date: 6/21/2005

WWE ECW (Collector's Edition)
Release Date: 7/12/2005

WWE Presents ECW - One Night Stand
Release Date: 7/12/2005

WWE Vengeance 2005
Release Date: 7/26/2005

WWE Great American Bash
Release Date: 8/23/2005

[brainchild81]

I wanted HHH gone for a while, but not like this.

[3dman27]

agreed brainchild81

[The Sage]

I agree guys. I'm sad HHH is injured, but he's gonna end up taking time off. It's a mixed feel.

[Sabretooth]

Me as well.Now,I never agreed with HHH,but I have to admit.He's gotten MUCH better over the past two years.He's jobbed to Benjamin,and Benoit beat him each time they fought.Oh,and he's got real balls for jobbing at WM for the past two years.


I never thought I'd say this but,I hope HHH gets better.:o

[Donnie Darko]

Honestly, we all talk **** about HHH, but it's hard to completely hate the guy. He's a great heel and he has been better about jobbing to some people. HOWEVER, I hate that he never goes too long without the belt. I hate that he has 10 title reigns.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Yeah he definitely needs to take a break from the title run. He's already a 10x champion and anymore and it's going to stop being such a prestigeous honor and become more of a joke...JBL was right, all that means is that he's lost the belt 10 different times. I do give the guy credit though, he's one hell of a performer and probably the best heel the WWE currently has.

I hope Batista keeps the belt for awhile, he has the potential makings of a great champ but he's still a little "green" right now. I'd like them to keep his "animal" persona going as I think it's great to see a champ that completely dominate his opponents....there's just something of a guy like Batista selling a shot to someone smaller than him that doesn't sit well.

[Hunter Rider]

anyone notice Batista using the term that the ring was his "jungle" ? i think the animal gimmick is here to stay.however i don't want to see 10 minute squashes on ppv

[Twitch]

too true

hey hunt can you answer my avvy request?

[Hunter Rider]

too true

hey hunt can you answer my avvy request?

im doing it now:)

[John Constantine]

anyone notice Batista using the term that the ring was his "jungle" ? i think the animal gimmick is here to stay.however i don't want to see 10 minute squashes on ppv

That's good, that should be his niche anyways, being the Animal.

I think I read on one website that now would be the perfect opportunity for him to have a new theme music, like maybe "Welcome to the Jungle". But I totally disagree, I love his current theme music :up:

[Hunter Rider]

That's good, that should be his niche anyways, being the Animal.

I think I read on one website that now would be the perfect opportunity for him to have a new theme music, like maybe "Welcome to the Jungle". But I totally disagree, I love his current theme music :up:

i agree his music is raw and suits him,he doesnt need a gimmick entrance theme

[John Constantine]

This is kinda spoilers for SD tonight, so don't click on it if you don't wanna get spoiled, but:

http://louvre.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/bf3/b90/bf3b90c3-7ed6-49ca-8b9f-8fb4ce89f780

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/users/425de9e6zfe7d3a8a/27ea/__sr_/4afa.jpg?phwYuXCBUnm20WBV

I just want to cry :(

[Hunter Rider]

This is kinda spoilers for SD tonight, so don't click on it if you don't wanna get spoiled, but:

http://louvre.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/bf3/b90/bf3b90c3-7ed6-49ca-8b9f-8fb4ce89f780


I just want to cry :(

:eek: Jesus on a 2 speed blazing through hell,is that the new design for the belt ?:mad:

[John Constantine]

I think it is. Check out the second picture I added :(

[Hunter Rider]

I think it is. Check out the second picture I added :(

ugh! the spinnig one was kinda fun IMO but that is just plain tacky........sigh will it ever end ?

[John Constantine]

If he really wants to "bling-bling" a title belt, he should just go the Million Dollar Man route and just make up his own damn title! :mad:

But really, this is kinda ridiculous...at this rate, I kinda want JBL to win the title back at the next PPV....:(

[Hunter Rider]

If there gonna redesgn it they could at least make it look good ,it just looks cheap.......in agree about JBL winning it back and that is a sad thing to have to say:down

[Twitch]

I want Eddie to win back the title he better win against Angle.

[John Constantine]

If there gonna redesgn it they could at least make it look good ,it just looks cheap.......in agree about JBL winning it back and that is a sad thing to have to say:down

I have no idea why they don't just keep the title the way it is. It just baffles me......


And the worse thing is, Cena's character is changing so much for the worse. Where's the original Cena? The one who had a ****load of intensity and always used rap to convey his messages? Now Cena has become nothing more than a poser-ass whiteboy :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

I have no idea why they don't just keep the title the way it is. It just baffles me......


And the worse thing is, Cena's character is changing so much for the worse. Where's the original Cena? The one who had a ****load of intensity and always used rap to convey his messages? Now Cena has become nothing more than a poser-ass whiteboy :mad:

I'm kinda glad he is doing some straight forward promos as well but it hink if he raps he needs to use his own stuff like in the begining,in the latter months before he stopped completely his raps were getting childish and were written by Laurentis.The "our championship" suck up gimmick is so cheesy and obvioius i can't believe ppl are buying it:(

[John Constantine]

That's what I'm talking about. I loved his rap promos when he was initially a heel and during the first part of his face turn. That's why I grew to like his character. After a while, they just degenerated into poop and gay jokes. That's when I started to tire of him. But honestly, the way they're changing his character, it's for the worse.

It's kind of like Orton's face turn. They made a complete 180 on him, getting rid of the Legend Killer gimmick, which was basically his one selling point. No wonder the fans couldn't buy him. I fear that might eventually happen with Cena as well....I mean I can't stand his promos now.....

[Hunter Rider]

Orton shouldve been slowly built into a face like how they did Batista's turn hut WWE jumped the gun in order to get a orton/HHH feud for ratings and basicaly asked the fans to accept him as a face over night,......which they didn't:o As fo cena ,im feeling a deja vu like when the Rock got stuck in a promo rut in 1999 with to many catchphrases,they also need to be careful not to push cena's lack of respect ot far unless they make him a heel

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I could definitely see that happening. A heel turn might do wonders for his character actually. It did wonders for the Rock a couple years back when everybody tired of him and he turned and the heel turn totally rejuvenated his character.

Oh, and here are even more pictures of the "bling-bling spinner" title. Including a closer look at the catchphrases on the title :rolleyes: :mad:

http://shopzone.wwe.com/newimages/images/06080X.JPG

[Hunter Rider]

It looks worse the more i see of it:( what does it say at the bottom ?

[Sabretooth]

I have no idea why they don't just keep the title the way it is. It just baffles me......


And the worse thing is, Cena's character is changing so much for the worse. Where's the original Cena? The one who had a ****load of intensity and always used rap to convey his messages? Now Cena has become nothing more than a poser-ass whiteboy :mad:
Yeah.Like a year ago,he was making kick ass raps,but then he turned to pussy **** for some reason and just stopped.If he isn't going to rap,they might as well have him say proper english.Because you can't have real Cena without his raps.

[Sabretooth]

It looks worse the more i see of it:( what does it say at the bottom ?
''Tha Trademarc'' :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

''Tha Trademarc'' :rolleyes:


ugh,is that another new word he's using ?:(

[Sabretooth]

ugh,is that another new word he's using ?:(
Somebody better burn that title.If I have to see Cena keep THAT around his waist for as long as he's champ (which is probably going to be for 2 years) I think I'LL burn it!:mad:

[Go Web Go!]

I sort of want Kane to come to SD! Batista is the new ''monster'' and Kane can be the same for Smackdown,if used correctly.:o

I like the idea, but sadly, if they haven't figured out how to use Kane by now then chances are they never will. :(

And by the way, MAKE IT STOP! (Cena) :(

[Sabretooth]

Is it me,or did those two guys that beat up Mysterio look familiar.i swear I saw them somewhere before :confused:

[Twitch]

Is it me,or did those two guys that beat up Mysterio look familiar.i swear I saw them somewhere before :confused:

I think its those blond hair guys a couple pages back the girl's entrance was hot.

[Hunter Rider]

havent seen SD yet but the 2 guys are johnny nitro and joey mathews

[The Techno Bat]

Is it me,or did those two guys that beat up Mysterio look familiar.i swear I saw them somewhere before :confused:

That Johnny Nitro guy used to run around as Eric Bischoff's ***** boy awhile back on RAW... remember he kept changing his name from Johnny Lightning to Johnny this to Johnny that until he finally settled on Johnny Nitro, I am not sure who the other two are though.

[The Techno Bat]

I am getting so sick and tired of Torrie Wilson. Has she ever lost a match on Smackdown? Why does she have to win everything from Bikini contest's to pillow fights to straight up wrestling matches. Tonight on Smackdown I think Dawn Marie should have been allowed to win, she totally outwrestled and beat Torrie up pretty good tonight, but NO here comes Torrie with a swing neck breaker for the win. I think that is probably why there is such a lack of interest with the SD diva's because all they do is stuff Torrie down our throats, and when they introduce new diva's they wonder why nobody gets excited, it's because we all know in the end Torrie Wilson will always come out the winner!

[Sabretooth]

I hope this new girl gets in the ring.She's pretty damn hot.:o

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Anyone picking up Wrestlemania 21 on XBOX next week?

[Sabretooth]

ew the title's a god damn spinner too.:(

[John Constantine]

Yeah.Like a year ago,he was making kick ass raps,but then he turned to pussy **** for some reason and just stopped.If he isn't going to rap,they might as well have him say proper english.Because you can't have real Cena without his raps.

They're catering too much to the fans with him. Changing too much of what made him popular in the first place.

Look at Steve Austin. When he turned, he didn't outright turn into a full-fledged face like Cena did. He still did some of the things that he did when he was a heel. And you know what? The fans still loved him for that. Same with Eddie Guerrero. He still kept the "Lying and Cheating and Stealing" gimmick he had as a heel and the fans still pop for him.

[Sabretooth]

They're catering too much to the fans with him. Changing too much of what made him popular in the first place.

Look at Steve Austin. When he turned, he didn't outright turn into a full-fledged face like Cena did. He still did some of the things that he did when he was a heel. And you know what? The fans still loved him for that. Same with Eddie Guerrero. He still kept the "Lying and Cheating and Stealing" gimmick he had as a heel and the fans still pop for him.
Yeah.His little ''Chain Gang'' **** ain't helping out either.I think it's just a way to kiss up to the fans so that they don't totally hate him with that bastardization of a title he made.:mad:

[John Constantine]

The Chain Gang is just another thing the WWE made up to try and emulate the success of the Rock and his People. But the thing is, The Rock had that schtick when he was a heel as well, so it's not like they added it for him to suck up to the fans.

It's totally useless IMO. I see the whole Chain Gang thing being similar to Adam Bomb's ****ing Bomb Squad...

[Sabretooth]

The Chain Gang is just another thing the WWE made up to try and emulate the success of the Rock and his People. But the thing is, The Rock had that schtick when he was a heel as well, so it's not like they added it for him to suck up to the fans.

It's totally useless IMO. I see the whole Chain Gang thing being similar to Adam Bomb's ****ing Bomb Squad...
If they want him to be really over with the fans,they need to make him rap again.Not stupid gay jokes or other crap,real raps.

Or,make him heel. At least then he won't be such a god damn kiss up.:o

[John Constantine]

Well he is still over with the fans at the moment. But for how long? I mean eventually they'll tire of his gimmick. Sooner rather than later if they keep this up.....I mean imagine him going up against an Eddie Guerrero or a Kurt Angle. Fans might actually cheer more for those two than him....

[The Techno Bat]

John Cena is annoying as hell and I think that spinning diamond world title belt is a disgrace! I think Cena is definately not world title material (YET), they should have kept the title around the waist of JBL

[Sabretooth]

Well he is still over with the fans at the moment. But for how long? I mean eventually they'll tire of his gimmick. Sooner rather than later if they keep this up.....I mean imagine him going up against an Eddie Guerrero or a Kurt Angle. Fans might actually cheer more for those two than him....
Cena really shouldn't have won the title at WM 21.It wasn't his time.He only had the US title before that,just like Orton only had the IC title.And something tells me that if the fans stop cheering for him,Cena may be on the same road Orton was when he was champ.:o

[The Techno Bat]

Where has Ric Flair been the past two weeks? Is he injured?

[John Constantine]

Cena really shouldn't have won the title at WM 21.It wasn't his time.He only had the US title before that,just like Orton only had the IC title.And something tells me that if the fans stop cheering for him,Cena may be on the same road Orton was when he was champ.:o

Actually I thought it was a perfect chance for Cena to win the title. I usually see the US/IC title as a stepping stone to the heavyweight championship. Cena accomplished everything he needed to in the US title division, it was only logical that he go up to the heavyweight championship division next. I just don't like certain changes that they made to his gimmick, changes that might end up ruining his marketability.....

And I honestly don't know why he stopped rapping. I would figure with his new rap album coming out, they would get him rapping again to promote it :confused:

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I actually like his new entrance music. When he changed it I was like "what the hell is this?" but the more I hear it the more I like it. There's something about the "horns" in the background that give it a real 70's retro feel to it.

I enjoy his gimmick but the chaingang thing is a bit lame. I know it helps get the fans connected with him but seriously does he need a nickname for it?

Everyone since the 90's has followed the "Stone Cold" formula of being the good guy that refuses to take orders and rebels against the boss. I really wish they'd break the rule of always having the heel be some spineless coward and the face ALWAYS overcoming obstacles to be the #1 guy...it's just been done to death.

[Donnie Darko]

that's why Orton was a great heel when he was coming up. He wasn't a spineless coward, but instead the exact opposite... a Legend Killer.

[Go Web Go!]

I am getting so sick and tired of Torrie Wilson. Has she ever lost a match on Smackdown? Why does she have to win everything from Bikini contest's to pillow fights to straight up wrestling matches. Tonight on Smackdown I think Dawn Marie should have been allowed to win, she totally outwrestled and beat Torrie up pretty good tonight, but NO here comes Torrie with a swing neck breaker for the win. I think that is probably why there is such a lack of interest with the SD diva's because all they do is stuff Torrie down our throats, and when they introduce new diva's they wonder why nobody gets excited, it's because we all know in the end Torrie Wilson will always come out the winner!

First time that I run into someone that actually gives a damn what happens when the ladies are on tv.

[hotrain33]

I would have to agree that the spinning belt is a total waste and should be thrown in the trash like jbl did to the u.s title. His theme music reminds me of the rocky anthem each time balboa had to train for a fight. Personally maybe it would have been better for jbl to have kept the belt. I hate to say that but Cena has rubed some fans like myself the wrong way. I hope someone takes the belt from him soon.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I'll go out on a limb and say that I find the new WWE title to be "entertaining". Again, the whole customizing your championship belt started with Austin's smoking skull belt and has progressed into a spinning US/WWE title.

I honestly wish they'd dump that ugly ass WCW title and replace it with something that doesn't look like someone melted a big ass gold nugget....something that screams "WORLD TITLE". I miss the old "Eagle" championship they had (the newest incarnation)...that was a nice belt.

[Hunter Rider]

Actually I thought it was a perfect chance for Cena to win the title. I usually see the US/IC title as a stepping stone to the heavyweight championship. Cena accomplished everything he needed to in the US title division, it was only logical that he go up to the heavyweight championship division next. I just don't like certain changes that they made to his gimmick, changes that might end up ruining his marketability.....

And I honestly don't know why he stopped rapping. I would figure with his new rap album coming out, they would get him rapping again to promote it :confused:

Ive always seen the IC/US titles the same way(comes from being a long time fan when those belts had more meaning:( )Look at the likes of Savage,Hart,Michaels,Warrior and even more recent Rock and HHH,they were all IC champs of distiction before moving on to the world title.As for cena ,i dont think his build up was as strong as ortons,in Ortons build up he had feuds and wins over HBK,RVD,Foley and Shelton giving him credibility leading into his world title shot,Cena has really only had 1 big match and that was with Angle at no way out,other than that he spent last year wrestling the french guy and other no hopers.Ironically when he was heel he had big matches with Taker and Brock yet in the year they shoulda been putting him in big matches he wrestled nobody's except Big Show at WM20

[Metamorpho1977]

That Johnny Nitro guy used to run around as Eric Bischoff's ***** boy awhile back on RAW... remember he kept changing his name from Johnny Lightning to Johnny this to Johnny that until he finally settled on Johnny Nitro, I am not sure who the other two are though.
Didn't they used to be on TNA weren't they AMW? I can't remember the name, but they stole the Tag team titles on TNA.

[Metamorpho1977]

you know if the Cena's world title didn't have the spinner thing, it might look alright.

[Hunter Rider]

from Pwtorch Newsletter:

-The Undertaker did not attend the Hall of Fame Ceremony at WrestleMania 21 because he wanted to protect his character, but also because he and Hogan have long standing backstage heat. Undertaker has been bitter towards Hogan from his days early on in WWE when he worked two straight PPV's against Hogan. He heard that Hogan made a point of telling McMahon he wasn't ready for a top spot at that point and claimed Taker didn't protect him well during their matches including on a Tombstone piledriver.

Ever since then, he and Hogan have not gotten along. Many respected the Undertakers decision not to attend the ceremony. On that same note, some are saying that it took a phone call from Vince McMahon in order to persuade Steve Austin to attend the Hall of Fame Ceremony. There is also some heat between Austin and Hogan, but once Austin was there he seemed to enjoy himself and there are pictures of he and Hogan at the event speaking with one another.

-On another note, Undertaker is working with a bad hip and many say it's only a matter of time before he will require surgery in order to heal himself.

[John Constantine]

Not surprised with that beef Undertaker had with Hogan. Back in the day, Hogan was just as bad as Triple H or Jeff Jarrett in protecting the title. Hell, even look at that Hogan-Undertaker championship match at the Survivor Series. Undertaker only won the title due to interference from Ric Flair and he lost it to Hogan the very next week

[Go Web Go!]

Surgery for The Undertaker? Great...Yet another reason not to watch Smackdown. I hope this won't keep him out long.

[The Undertaker]

Surgery for The Undertaker? Great...Yet another reason not to watch Smackdown. I hope this won't keep him out long.

Damn. Well hopefully he's not out for long. That long ass vacation he took before his ' american badass ' return nearly killed me. Well one cool thing will come out of it maybe.. he might 'madonna-ize' himself another time.

[Green Day Man]

i like wwf wrestling.

[3dman27]

i like wwf wrestling.
you mean wwe wrestling the have been legally barred from using the wwf name for two-three years now
granted the injunction is in the brittish courts but there's not much sense in using wwe in england and wwf everywhere else right? :ff:

[GLfan]

Silvervision.co.uk has released information in regards to the matches that will be in the forthcoming Road Warriors DVD release from WWE. They've really packed the two disk set with matches as they'res nearly 30 matches on it from the NWA, WWF and AWA. CLICK http://www.silvervision.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=WWE1119 to see the cover art of the DVD and more information. The DVD is set to be released on Tuesday, June 14, 2005.


Disc One

NWA Georgia Championship Wrestling (11/06/83) vs. Joe Young & Randy Barber

NWA Georgia Championship Wrestling (07/08/83} vs. Arn Anderson & Paul Jones

NWA World Championship Wrestling Omni (28/08/83) Texas Tornado Match vs. The Brisco Brothers
Commentary by: Jim Ross & Animal

NWA Georgia Championship Wrestling (03/01/83) vs. Mike Jackson & Stone

AWA All Star Wrestling (25/08/84) AWA World Tag Title Championship vs. Baron von Raschke & The Crusher
Alternate Commentary by: Jim Ross & Animal

NWA Georgia Championship Wrestling (27/08/83)

AWA All Star Wrestling (28/07/84)

AWA ESPN Championship Wrestling (15/10/85)

NWA World Championship Wrestling (03/10/87)

NWA World Championship Wrestling (10/10/87)

NWA World Championship Wrestling (28/01/89)

WCW Wrestle War (25/02/90)

Brutus the Barber Beefcake's BarberShop Wrestling Challenge (28/09/91)

Royal Rumble (21/01/92)

In Your House: Degeneration X (07/12/97)

Hawk Tribute Part 1 Confidential (08/11/03)

Hawk Tribute Part 2 Confidential (08/11/03)

Trophy Room

Paul Ellering "Go For It"

Michaels Hayes "A Lesson in Striving for Success"

Road Warriors Music Video

Note: I can only hope that this is the deliciously awful "There's gonna be a Rumble, Tonight" video from back in the AWA.

Disc Two

AWA All Star Wrestling (21/08/85) vs. Larry 'the Axe' & Curt Hennig

Superclash (28/09/85) AWA World Tag Team Title Match vs. The Fabulous Freebirds

Jim Crockett Sr. Memorial Tag Team Tournament Cup (19/04/86) vs. Magnum TA & Ronnie Garvin
Commentary by: Jim Ross & Animal

Great American Bash (05/07/86) Russian Chain Match vs. Ivan & Nikita Kolaff

Starrcade (27/11/86) Scaffold Match vs. Midnight Express

Starrcade (29/11/87) NWA Tag Team Championship vs. Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson

New Orleans (29/10/88) NWA World Tag Team Championship vs. Midnight Express

Challenge (09/02/91) vs. Demolition

Wrestlefest (12/03/91) vs. Hart Foundation

Tokyo Egg Dome (30/03/91) vs. Hulk Hogan & Genichiro Tenryu
Japanese Commentary, Alternate Commentary by: Jim Ross & Animal

Summerslam (26/08/91) WWE Tag Team Championship vs. Nasty Boys

Summerslam (29/08/92) vs. Money Inc.

Superbrawl (02/11/96) WCW Tag Team Championship Match vs. Sting & Lex Luger

Raw (13/10/97) WWE Tag Team Championship vs. The Godwinns

[Flame on!]

Is it just me, or are the WWE DVD's ridiculously awesome these days?

[GLfan]

They are completely awesome, I can't wait to buy these babies!:D

[Donnie Darko]

they have so many DVDs I need to get... HBK, Flair, Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Road Warriors... the only one I have is Hulk Still Rules

[Metamorpho1977]

Silvervision.co.uk has released information in regards to the matches that will be in the forthcoming Road Warriors DVD release from WWE. They've really packed the two disk set with matches as they'res nearly 30 matches on it from the NWA, WWF and AWA. CLICK http://www.silvervision.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=WWE1119 to see the cover art of the DVD and more information. The DVD is set to be released on Tuesday, June 14, 2005.


Starrcade (27/11/86) Scaffold Match vs. Midnight Express


I saw this match live. I was nine years old, and I was so excited. It was the wildest thing that I had ever seen.

[Metamorpho1977]

Word has it that WWE has just signed Juventud and Psicosis. Anyone else think that Eddie Guerrero is gonna reform the LWO? here's hoping.

[John Constantine]

They also signed Super Crazy. I hope that this is a sign that the WWE is looking to shake things up with the cruiserweight division. Can you imagine the matches those three might put on with wrestlers like Paul London or Akio? :eek:

All they need is to move the Hurricane to SD and the CW division might be seen as an actual legitimate division again :up:

[Duende Verde]

Word has it that WWE has just signed Juventud and Psicosis. Anyone else think that Eddie Guerrero is gonna reform the LWO? here's hoping.
I wonder if it's going to be the original Psicosis, AAA (a mexican wrestling federation) stole his name and gimmick and goes by Nicho now.

[Go Web Go!]

Is it just me, or are the WWE DVD's ridiculously awesome these days?

If only we could say the same for their shows...

[Hunter Rider]

TSN, which is the home of WWE Raw in Canada posted on its wrestling section of the TSN.ca website that Hulk Hogan will be appearing on Raw this forthcoming Monday.

TSN citing source says " WWE Hall of Famer Hulk Hogan will appear this Monday on WWE RAW, to be aired live on TSN at 9pm et/6pm pt from New York's Madison Square Garden."

Interesting, as this is pretty much as close to confirmation as we are going to get that Hogan will be there on Monday.

also did everyone know Batista is 36 ?

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I was informed of that a few weeks ago. I was kinda surprised when I heard that, I thought we was in his early 30s at the most.....

[Sabretooth]

Damn.He's the same age as HHH,I always thought of him quite a bit younger.:eek:

[Go Web Go!]

36? Wow. He doesn't look that young, but I expected him to be atleast in his early 30's.

[Sabretooth]

bump


JBL needs to replace the Bashams with two new people.The Bashams just don't fit in his faction.I say get Luther Reigns and Jindrak in there.:o

[3dman27]

any idea whe rvd and eugene are coming back?

[The Techno Bat]

Didn't they used to be on TNA weren't they AMW? I can't remember the name, but they stole the Tag team titles on TNA.

Two different guys. America's Most Wanted are Cowboy James Storm and Wildcat Chris Harris, and they did battle a team called The Naturals Chase Stevens & Andy Douglas who resemble the team of Johnny Nitro and Joey Matthews a bit with the long greasy hair look, but they are three totally different teams.

I am glad that the WWE is actually trying to bring in new teams and do different things with the new tag team, and the addition of CCC Cabana.

I think signing Rowdy Piper for five years was dumb! I bet they did that just to keep him on a short leash or something.

Where's Ric Flair? WoOoOoOOOoOOOooooo!

[The Techno Bat]

any idea whe rvd and eugene are coming back?

Hopefully NEVER! I hate the entire Eugene gimmick, they actually had a "REAL LIFE" physically challenged individual in Zach Gowen, who wrestled with one leg, and then they turn around and make Nick Dinsmore, a great wrestler and very intellegent guy, into a physically challenged individual, I think even to this day it is very tasteless.

And RvD is just simple a spot wrestler, and really doesn't do it for me. He is notorious for injuring guys in the ring and hope that he never come back

[The Techno Bat]

bump


JBL needs to replace the Bashams with two new people.The Bashams just don't fit in his faction.I say get Luther Reigns and Jindrak in there.:o

Won't happen now with Reigns and Jindrak are at odds. Personally I don't mind The Bashams they fit that sleashy scumbag security team look that works with JBL's Cabinet. Besides that The Bashams are probably the most gifted and true tag team on Smackdown

[The Techno Bat]

also did everyone know Batista is 36 ?

Ya a couple of years ago when I was looking at this body building magazine featuring wrestlers they had Brock and Batista in it and told there ages. And I was completely taken back by the fact that at the time Batista was 34.

[kane9321]

smackdown needs "the chairman of wcw".....la parka..i saw him on mexican wrestling a few weeks ago,"damn those ring girls are smokin hot"

[Rainbowbrite]

Hopefully NEVER! I hate the entire Eugene gimmick, they actually had a "REAL LIFE" physically challenged individual in Zach Gowen, who wrestled with one leg, and then they turn around and make Nick Dinsmore, a great wrestler and very intellegent guy, into a physically challenged individual, I think even to this day it is very tasteless.

And RvD is just simple a spot wrestler, and really doesn't do it for me. He is notorious for injuring guys in the ring and hope that he never come back


dinsmore came up with the eugene character not the wwe it was his idea so u cant hate on the wwe for that

[3dman27]

i wonder why they released zack bowen ?

[Sabretooth]

Won't happen now with Reigns and Jindrak are at odds. Personally I don't mind The Bashams they fit that sleashy scumbag security team look that works with JBL's Cabinet. Besides that The Bashams are probably the most gifted and true tag team on Smackdown
Maybe,but The Bashams haven't been at least sorta interesting since they had the S&M gimmick with Shaniqua.After Shaniqua left,they steadily went down.:o

[John Constantine]

i wonder why they released zack bowen ?

I heard he developed a big head when he was in the WWE. Too much of a headache for management, so I guess they decided to let him go :confused:

[The Techno Bat]

dinsmore came up with the eugene character not the wwe it was his idea so u cant hate on the wwe for that

I can a little bit because they allowed him to run with it....

[The Techno Bat]

I heard he developed a big head when he was in the WWE. Too much of a headache for management, so I guess they decided to let him go :confused:

The last time Zach Gowen was on WWE tv was when Brock Lesnar kicked the snot out of him and tossed him down a flight of stairs

[John Constantine]

That was probably something to smarten him up. Nothing like a savage beating to make you wake up and smell the coffee :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Chris Jericho was a guest on The Opie & Anthony XM Satellite Radio Show this morning and a listener emailed a question concerning the whole Edge-Lita-Matt Hardy situation and the email said "watch Jericho squirm". Jericho said he has nothing to be ashamed about, as he wasn't involved in that mess. Jericho said it was a "f***ed up situation". He said it was "bad business" and it's wrong to fire Matt Hardy when he did nothing wrong.

When asked about Triple H dominating Raw, he said he doesn't think Triple H is hurting business, "He is the star of the show, he is what Hulk Hogan was 10 years ago".

[John Constantine]

Of course he's gonna say that right now...he's still employed with the company ;)

[Sabretooth]

And I'm sure if he said one bad thing about HHH,HHH would've made sure he was fired.Those two HATE each other.

[Hunter Rider]

yeah your both right but Y2J has blasted HHH before ,I just thought it was worth posting as he commented on the Matt Hardy situation as well

[Super Kal]

I loved the entrance of Hulk Hogan, and the sight of HBK going loco crazy was just plain friggin hilarious!

[Donnie Darko]

that Christian promo was possibly the best thing I've seen in WWE for a while now for some reason. I would love to see him get this title heat, although now I'm afraid it's gonna get squashed when he faces Batista.

[Capt Throbberson]

Chris Jericho was a guest on The Opie & Anthony XM Satellite Radio Show this morning and a listener emailed a question concerning the whole Edge-Lita-Matt Hardy situation and the email said "watch Jericho squirm". Jericho said he has nothing to be ashamed about, as he wasn't involved in that mess. Jericho said it was a "f***ed up situation". He said it was "bad business" and it's wrong to fire Matt Hardy when he did nothing wrong.

When asked about Triple H dominating Raw, he said he doesn't think Triple H is hurting business, "He is the star of the show, he is what Hulk Hogan was 10 years ago".

What exactly is the "Edge-Lita-Matt Hardy" situation, i only got back into wrestling a few weeks ago.

[John Constantine]

that Christian promo was possibly the best thing I've seen in WWE for a while now for some reason. I would love to see him get this title heat, although now I'm afraid it's gonna get squashed when he faces Batista.

Loved that Marky Mark comment :up:

And to be honest, Christian should move to SD during the draft.....he's basically fought everyone on Raw anyways, might as well move him there and maybe get rid of Tomko....

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Man seeing Hogan again was priceless. No matter how old he gets, how worn out he seems, NO ONE does it like Hogan.

Christian's "Marky Mark" comment was priceless.

[3dman27]

What exactly is the "Edge-Lita-Matt Hardy" situation, i only got back into wrestling a few weeks ago.
lita was allegedlyhaving a love affair behind matt hardy's back with edge who is married and whe the story broke on the internet pressand matt commented on in on his PERSONAL WEBSITEone NOT CONTROLLED by the wwe he was fired :hyper:

[angelus777]

Can anyone name wrestlers who hate each other in real life?

HBK and HART

HOGAN and FLAIR

anyone else?

[kane9321]

i was looking forward to another "lita-getting- her arse- beat again..but kane had to spoil it for me

[0neDisturbedSOB]

HOGAN and UNDERTAKER

I honestly don't think HBK hates Bret Hart, it might be the other way around.

[SLYspyda]

christian was great last night. the crowd was actually cheering for him a little, and that says alot when you're a bad guy.

can't believe trish was able to get done with her segment, i would've completely lost my lines with those endless distractions/chants from the crowd directed at Lita. Trish is just great. she's a heel but trhe crowd was cheering for her and not lita. they might as well make lita a heel now.

[3dman27]

i've been wondering about that why don't they flipflop the trish-lita situation?

[brainchild81]

Can anyone name wrestlers who hate each other in real life?

HBK and HART

HOGAN and FLAIR

anyone else?I think Matt Hardy hates Edge. Honestly he should hate Lita more. Edge didn't cheat on him. Lita did.

Anyway, am I the only one who thinks Hogan should have retired a long time ago or @least after his match with the Rock?

[kane9321]

i dont like trish,but tonite i was rooting for her. I loved how the fans were chanting at lita,wonder what was going through her mind?

[Goldenage Batman]

HOGAN AND JAKE "THE SNAKE" ROBERTS.........I heard they hate each other.........

[brainchild81]

Hopefully NEVER! I hate the entire Eugene gimmick, they actually had a "REAL LIFE" physically challenged individual in Zach Gowen, who wrestled with one leg, and then they turn around and make Nick Dinsmore, a great wrestler and very intellegent guy, into a physically challenged individual, I think even to this day it is very tasteless.

And RvD is just simple a spot wrestler, and really doesn't do it for me. He is notorious for injuring guys in the ring and hope that he never come backI agree w/you on Eugene, but RVD is one of the most underrated talents in the WWE. He's a guy that many fans want to see, but WWE is more interested in building up other people(who nobody's gonna care about in 2 years) @ his expense. If pushed right, he could be big business.

[Lobo]

RVD is possibly the best talent the WWE has. he's recently had knee surgery, but when he returns, I'm sure he'll get a nice push. I met him last year, very cool guy. BTW I went to Raw and Smackdown supershow at the Garden last night :D :p

Matt definitely hates Edge, he called him a piece of ***** over and over on his site.

[brainchild81]

He should be calling Lita a POS moreso than Edge. It's not like he raped her or something. I hope you're right about the RVD push. But I doubt it.

[Lobo]

He should be calling Lita a POS moreso than Edge. It's not like he raped her or something. I hope you're right about the RVD push. But I doubt it.


The guy deserves it that's for sure. And you're right about the Matt/Edge/Lita thing

I love the garden, Edge comes out people start chanting you screwed lita, Lita comes out they start chanting you screwed Matt/ You screwed Edge. I was loving it. And nice to see Christian be put in the Main event next week, too bad Batista is probably going to squash him :(

[Shifty]

The guy deserves it that's for sure. And you're right about the Matt/Edge/Lita thing

I love the garden, Edge comes out people start chanting you screwed lita, Lita comes out they start chanting you screwed Matt/ You screwed Edge. I was loving it. And nice to see Christian be put in the Main event next week, too bad Batista is probably going to squash him :(

Maybe HHH will assist Christian in the victory. That way both would've lost to unlikely opponents before the rematch. Then Christian will start bragging and want a title shot etc. Of course the WWE may want Batista to look invincible and just squash Christian. Its probably better for the HHH/Batista feud for him to lose and better for Christian.

[Lobo]

Maybe HHH will assist Christian in the victory. That way both would've lost to unlikely opponents before the rematch. Then Christian will start bragging and want a title shot etc. Of course the WWE may want Batista to look invincible and just squash Christian. Its probably better for the HHH/Batista feud for him to lose and better for Christian.


Christian is my current favorite though, I'm so sick of Triple H. Well in about a month there's another Draft lottery coming up, maybe Christian will go to Smackdown and have a feud with Cena.

[Sabretooth]

They should've held on to Matt and let him go to SD! with this draft.But nooo...


And it seems like ''You screwed Matt!'' is the new,''You screwed Bret!'' :o

But honestly,I wonder what was going on in Lita's head when that was happening.:confused: They should make her heel now,cause the fans won't forgive her.:o

[Go Web Go!]

I think Matt Hardy hates Edge. Honestly he should hate Lita more. Edge didn't cheat on him. Lita did.

If you were dating a girl for 5+ years and she cheated on you with your best friend wouldn't you be a little upset?

[John Constantine]

lita was allegedlyhaving a love affair behind matt hardy's back with edge who is married and whe the story broke on the internet pressand matt commented on in on his PERSONAL WEBSITEone NOT CONTROLLED by the wwe he was fired :hyper:

You know, I was reading something from another website. And it posted something that was written/said by Edge's soon-to-be-ex-wife. She said that Matt got in trouble for posting his feelings on his website. Well imagine if he had written a tell-all book about it that was endorsed by the WWE. I'd imagine that Matt would still be in the WWE today and he would probably be feuding with Edge in the near future.....

[John Constantine]

Can anyone name wrestlers who hate each other in real life?

HBK and HART

HOGAN and FLAIR

anyone else?

A lot of people don't like Ric Flair. Mick Foley for example. I also think Shane Douglas hates him as well....

[Donnie Darko]

is there a story behind the Mick Foley/Shane Douglas hatred for Flair?

unless it's just a GREAT act, Randy Savage HATES Hogan

[John Constantine]

The only thing I know of the Foley-Flair dispute is that Flair called Foley a "glorified stuntman" in his book and Foley wasn't too happy about that. The two almost got into a fist-fight as well a few months back......


The one between Shane Douglas and Flair I'm not too sure about. But I'm betting it was the reasoning behind Douglas leaving WCW and the cause of the start of ECW.

[The Techno Bat]

that Christian promo was possibly the best thing I've seen in WWE for a while now for some reason. I would love to see him get this title heat, although now I'm afraid it's gonna get squashed when he faces Batista.

Christian is awesome. I love it when he kisses his fingers and then points out to the fans. He is one of the most underused guys in the business, and probably one of the most talented, he is the complete package, in ring skills, microphone skills, etc... I hope he has a good showing against Batista because as much as I like Christian I don't see him beating Batista. Moving Christian to Smackdown might be the best thing for him.

I am definately a PEEP!

[The Techno Bat]

The Hulk Hogan entrance was totally awesome, he really still has it and knows how to bring a crowd to life, too bad they had to ruin that entire segment (HBK/Hogan/Davari/Hassan) by following it with Chris Masters. How boring was he (AGAIN)last night? Why are they forcing this guy down our throats week in and week out, when it is obvious nobody really cares about him.

Does anybody else think it would be great if Hulk Hogan turns on HBK at Backlash and forms a new type of NWO (different name though) with Hussan and Davari. I know it's a stretch but it would be very interesting. I think Hogan would get booed and bring more heat to himself more this time around then when he did it the first time

[The Techno Bat]

I can't wait to see Matt Hardy reunite with his brother Jeff over in TNA and really turn on the heat with the WWE, I think it would help TNA alot to have The Hardy Boys back together and battling it out with teams like America's Most Wanted, The Naturals, etc...

[Donnie Darko]

ok, with the draft coming up, who do yall want to see switch sides?

I think we're just about all in agreement that The Hurricane should be on SD. Also, I too think Christian should get moved to SD and get involved in the title scene. I think Booker T would in best with the Raw crowd, but I don't know. Maybe NO ONE should pick up Masters.

[John Constantine]

Moving to Raw, I could see Luther Reigns making that move. He's nothing more than a jobber right now anyways, which is a sad thing. Maybe a change of scenery might help him out. If they really wanted to go big though, they could move Angle or Guerrero to Raw as well. Angle might actually help out Batista in a feud for the World's title....

[Donnie Darko]

I can completely see all those moves. Seeing Angel vs Batista would be great, considering their vastly different styles.

[Hunter Rider]

From TheMattHardy.com Message Board

WARNING!!! THIS IS A LOT LONGER THAN I INTENDED IT TO BE!!!
Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do.

"They" meaning all of us. The human race. We all sin, we all error. We all do things that need to be forgiven. As a Christian I have been struggling with this "situation" for months. As a human being (living in the flesh) I have wanted to retaliate and come forward and speak my mind a lot sooner.

I married a man, Adam Copeland, six months ago with the thoughts of "til death do us part." Obviously in our state of society that rarely exists anymore. The divorce rate is at 55% and no one bats an eyelash. When this story first broke I read so many things saying "People cheat, that's what they do" "Athletes, cheat that's what they do!" That my friends is a cop out. It is a way for all of us to look at ourselves and affirm our own actions in life. Whatever our own weaknesses are, we love to hear of others "failing". The old "I told you so"................. Throughout my adult life I have dated atheletes or somewhat "high profile" people, not because that was/is important but because those were/are the type of people I meet. I was modeling when I met my last boyfriend who is a pro baseball player and my best friend is married to a WWE wrestler. Big deal. I have been tagged as a gold digger, it's not that. It's the circle of people you are surrounded by. If not at the clubs, how does anyone meet their significant others? Through work, friends etc. What's the point to all of this???? Not much, just giving you all a little insight to who I am.

These last few months have been some of the most painful months I have ever experienced as a human being. I know we are all capable of hurting each other. Capable of things we never "intended" to do. Intended--- Amy and Matt where at our wedding. Amy was not welcomed there in my eyes because she was always a ***** to me and until now did not know why. But my thought was..."how do we invite Matt and Jeff and not Amy?" I will be the bigger person here and not stoop down to her level. I thought maybe as a woman she was "testing" me out after Alanah... wondering who this girl was in her friends life so soon. Does she want him for the right reasons, etc. I gave her that... little did I know this was all lurking around the corner. Adam and Amy... Amy and Adam... oh they feel in love... poor Matt, poor Lisa. I call bull****. Adam and I never disrespected Alanah. I didn't want to have anything to do with Adam until his divorce was under way and I felt we were being honest and not hurting anyone. I always thought Adam was the Victim in that relationship, but now being on the other side of the fence..... not so sure anymore.

Did Adam and Amy make a mistake? Sure! Did Adam and Lisa move too fast into another marriage? Maybe we did.... Did Amy and Matt have problems? Not to my knowledge........... there are so many theory's, so many should haves, could haves, would haves......... but the real story is this--As a human being........ and I stress Human, how does one continue to do this?

Where their actions unforgivable? NO, but it's how they have both handled it after the fact. Adam blaming Matt for not being a stand up boyfriend and in turn having his girlfriend confide in him.... justifying how he could not only betray his wife but one of his best friends..... come on people you read his book.... him and Matt were best friends. When he had his neck surgery there were 5 people from the WWE that called Adam weekly to check on him--Matt being on of them. Matt was there so many times for Amy when she hurt herself. Whether it was the neck, the knee, or anything, he was there for her. How could Matt post his personal life on the net.... How immmature, right? Give me a break people.... If Matt wrote this all in his book............ No big deal! But because the WWE didn't make one red cent from this his personal life is "off limits". What was Unscripted all about. WWE's stars personal lives. As long as Vince can make a buck...who cares what the fans know. But instead Matt got fired b/c all the WWE is interested in now is Bimbos, another Diva search please. Personally I always liked Amy as a wrestler. As a person I always thought she was kinda a ***** and kinda looked like a man but I just chalked that up to all of the steriods she did... but hey maybe she's like Adam and only tried them once (Off the Record) and still doing them! Oh OK!

Whatever.

Amy and Adam have had many many opportunities to tell Matt and I both the truth. A chance to say hey... Sorry I hurt you but I fell in love with someone else. But they have both repeatedly continued to lie, lie, lie, lie! Why do they have backstage heat when suppposedly everyone else is cheating on their spouses? Because Adam is a coward and started naming names trying to bring others down with him. Amy was never respected by any of the girls b/c she treated them all as T-N-A and now that she needs them she is trying to gain sympathy. Well too bad, that is not how the world works. As women we don't trust each other as it is.......... as a woman disrespected by another ---f*** you *****! I had heard somewhere that she tried to call me to apologize but that was a lie... I have tried to call her numerous times with no luck unless I call her from Adams cell, only then does she answer. They are both cowards they are both liars and they both need major psychological help. Maybe one day they will get it.... maybe not. I know Matt and I will prevail. God doesn't bless those who have evil in their hearts. I am trying to forgive

Adam and Amy but it will take a while. Edge and Lita may be one thing, but take away Adam's steriods and what would he be? Another 6'4" skinny guy and take away Amy's oppenents like Gail Kim, Molly Holly, Victoria--Girls that know how to wrestle and guess what? That nasty ***** will bust her knee cap every other 7 months. Good riddance to them both. They deserve each other. Just remember what goes around comes around. I may not have handled this in the best way possible, but I never expected this to be my life right now so please forgive me........... God bless Matt and all the future has to offer him. And God bless Adam and Amy b/c they will need it when Karma comes knocking on their doors!

[Hunter Rider]

Partial Source: The Torch

The timing of the Draft Lottery 'in about a month' does make sense seeing as WWE wanted to get through Backlash first and then really shape up the rosters.

The top guys rumored to move are Shawn Michaels to Smackdown and Kurt Angle to RAW. If HBK were to switch, they could turn him heel to feud with John Cena which would only elevate him further. As far as Angle is concerned, he'd do a feud with Batista after his program with Triple H ends. Just to note, last year none of the guys (excluding Triple H) were told of who would be switching brands ahead of time. If HBK and Angle are the top switches, they would likely be notified ahead of time due to their tenure in the company.



this was the first piece of news i saw about the draft however it was followed by this


Source: Wrestling-Observer Newsletter


Although one of the rumored suggestions for the Draft Lottery called for Shawn Michaels to jump to SmackDown! and begin a feud with John Cena - as a heel - there's talk he's against such a plan. While HBK could very well end up on SmackDown, he has told those close to him that he's not at all in favor of a heel turn and wants to continue his babyface character.



personaly i think Shawn is right,he is more valubale as a face at this point than a heel in the same way Taker is as they provide a second main event on the PPV as a face

[Hunter Rider]

from wzEarlier this week, we posted a Kid Kash interview on SEScoops.com (TNA website) in which he trashed the company in a vicious style. TNA posted the following:

"Kid Kash has been released from his contract with TNA Entertainment effective immediately."

[Hunter Rider]

The Hulk Hogan entrance was totally awesome, he really still has it and knows how to bring a crowd to life, too bad they had to ruin that entire segment (HBK/Hogan/Davari/Hassan) by following it with Chris Masters. How boring was he (AGAIN)last night? Why are they forcing this guy down our throats week in and week out, when it is obvious nobody really cares about him.

Does anybody else think it would be great if Hulk Hogan turns on HBK at Backlash and forms a new type of NWO (different name though) with Hussan and Davari. I know it's a stretch but it would be very interesting. I think Hogan would get booed and bring more heat to himself more this time around then when he did it the first time

In all honesty while i love Hogan(hell i grew up watching him)_he is totally pathetic in the ring,his stumble in at MSG was only saved by his charisma,it made Hassan look like an idiot and its not fair to these young guys to have to lower there game about 20 notches to carry Hulk,so im all for one off appearences but i'd soon tire of his act week after week.
As for the wrestlers that really hate each other,well Bret hate's HBk but i don't think Hbk hates Bret.Now Foley had a go in his first book at Flair over when Flair was booking WCW and said he was basically booking his friends in the best matches,flair then made the "stuntman" comment in his book.The shane Douglas hate is merely smoke and mirrors,Shane shot himself in the foot his whole career and when he was eCW champ he started calling out Flair just to cause heat and interest in his character,it just sort of snowballed from there and flair called him a "pool hall punk champion" or something to that effect in his book.Now Flair and Hart hate each other for sure and it esculated over Flairs comments about Hart in his book,one of which was about Bret using Owen's death to promote himself which IMO is both BS and a classless act on flairs part.The bottom line is Flair sold a lot of books of the back of those attacks so iguess he got what he was after and him and Bret have exchanged more insults since ,most of which are stupid.Hogan hates the Ultimate Warrior for the simple reason that Warrior was the only guy at the height of hulkamania that was chosen to go over agains Hogan

[John Constantine]

from wzEarlier this week, we posted a Kid Kash interview on SEScoops.com (TNA website) in which he trashed the company in a vicious style. TNA posted the following:

"Kid Kash has been released from his contract with TNA Entertainment effective immediately."

hmm....this could mean he could show up at the ECW One Night Only PPV :up:

[brainchild81]

If you were dating a girl for 5+ years and she cheated on you with your best friend wouldn't you be a little upset?No doubt. But I hopefully(you never really know until you're in that situation)wouldn't take it out on my best friend. If you think about it logically, I'd hope that my best friend f**ked her and then brought me proof. That way I'd know that my girl was crooked. If my girl has the capacity for cheating, I'd like to know.