Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

^ Someone knows their pornstars ^

:D so i am correct ?

[Sabretooth]

:D so i am correct ?
I don't think anybody knows who she is,plus it's impossible to tell with her sunglasses

But uh,I was looking at a place that was south of her face,so....;)

[Go Web Go!]

I'm not sure whether it's her or not. I've never heard of her. I'll be sure to look her up though, ;)

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not sure whether it's her or not. I've never heard of her. I'll be sure to look her up though, ;)

she's a very good.....erm.....actress:confused: :D

[Lobo]

Yes she is :D

[Sabretooth]

It would be so friggin kinky if it turned out to be Edge's ex-wife.:o

[John Constantine]

Knowing Edge's track record, there's a very good chance she might be his ex-wife in a couple years :o :D

[Sabretooth]

Knowing Edge's track record, there's a very good chance she might be his ex-wife in a couple years :o :D
Heh.:D did he cheat on his first wife too?

[Hunter Rider]

Heh.:D did he cheat on his first wife too?

yeah with the woman he's now cheated on with Lita:o

[Sabretooth]

yeah with the woman he's now cheated on with Lita:o
Damn what a scumbag. It's like it's a hobby for him.:confused:

I can't believe I actually thought he was cool for a while.:(

Cheating on your wife.....that's not cool.

[TheS4ndman]

lol carlito sux

[Go Web Go!]

lol carlito sux

That's not cool... :mad:

[Twitch]

lol carlito sux

Carlito is cool.

I just want to see him back in the ring and wrestling again.

[Sabretooth]

lol carlito sux
Then your not cool.And I SPIT in the face of people who don't want to be cool.:mad:

[Twitch]

Then your not cool.And I SPIT in the face of people who don't want to be cool.:mad:

:D :cool:

[Caliber]

Carlito is cool.

I just want to see him back in the ring and wrestling again.

I hate him and his apples. There is no point to spitting apples at people. I wish h do something else. How is spitting apples make you cool?

[3dman27]

Damn what a scumbag. It's like it's a hobby for him.:confused:

I can't believe I actually thought he was cool for a while.:(

Cheating on your wife.....that's not cool.
i agree with you on that

[Twitch]

I hate him and his apples. There is no point to spitting apples at people. I wish h do something else. How is spitting apples make you cool?

I agree with you about the spitting maybe he should go to Raw.....

[Sabretooth]

I agree with you about the spitting maybe he should go to Raw.....
Nah.He's a reason I even still watch Smackdown.His cabana kicks ass. :up:

[Twitch]

Nah.He's a reason I even still watch Smackdown.His cabana kicks ass. :up:

Oh yeah Eddie's segment was kickass :up:

[John Constantine]

I hate him and his apples. There is no point to spitting apples at people. I wish h do something else. How is spitting apples make you cool?

It's part of his schtick. In fact, it's so much part of his character now, I can't really see him not do that now.....:o :)

[Hunter Rider]

It's part of his schtick. In fact, it's so much part of his character now, I can't really see him not do that now.....:o :)

yeah the character is good and his mic work solid but i'd like him to actually start wrestling

[Go Web Go!]

yeah the character is good and his mic work solid but i'd like him to actually start wrestling

He'll be back in the ring soon. He was injured for a while, I guess they gave him the Cabana so he'd have some air time.

[Donnie Darko]

here's something I never though I would say... two of my favorite wrestlers are JBL and Carlito Caribbean Cool. Them and Eddie are my favorites on SD. On Raw it's probably Orton (I know lots of people hate him, but I still live for the days of the Legend Killer), Benjamin, and Captain Charisma.

[Sabretooth]

^ Agreed.Cool,Orton,Benjamin,and Christian are the future of WWE,and they better be in the god damn main event by the end of the year.:mad:

[John Constantine]

I really wouldn't mind Carlito continuing on his feud with Cena once he clears up a little of the ring rust.....

[Go Web Go!]

^ Agreed.Cool,Orton,Benjamin,and Christian are the future of WWE,and they better be in the god damn main event by the end of the year.:mad:

I doubt it. All of them are in the early stages of their pushes. Carlito is showing promise, but we need to see more from him in the ring when he returns from his injury. Benjamin is getting there. He's had a nice reign as the Intercontinental champion, but isn't very good on the mic. Sadly, that's more important that your actual performance in the ring. Christian is already one of the best on the mic. and pretty good in the ring. It's just a matter of when they decide to give him his push. Orton shouldn't be back anytime soon, but he still isn't ready for the spotlight. We all saw that when the WWE forced him on us as the World champ.

That's what I think, but you never know. I'd also like to see more from Jericho and Kane. They've been around the WWE longer than most people, yet they never seem to be used correctly. Jericho had his run as the Undisputed champion, but as soon as Triple H returned from his injury he was pushed back down in the cards and hasn't really been at the same level since. As for Kane...we all know his deal...

[Sabretooth]

Orton also had a complete change.He became a bland face.I want to see Legend Killer hold the gold.

[brainchild81]

I doubt it. All of them are in the early stages of their pushes. Carlito is showing promise, but we need to see more from him in the ring when he returns from his injury. Benjamin is getting there. He's had a nice reign as the Intercontinental champion, but isn't very good on the mic. Sadly, that's more important that your actual performance in the ring. Christian is already one of the best on the mic. and pretty good in the ring. It's just a matter of when they decide to give him his push. Orton shouldn't be back anytime soon, but he still isn't ready for the spotlight. We all saw that when the WWE forced him on us as the World champ.

That's what I think, but you never know. I'd also like to see more from Jericho and Kane. They've been around the WWE longer than most people, yet they never seem to be used correctly. Jericho had his run as the Undisputed champion, but as soon as Triple H returned from his injury he was pushed back down in the cards and hasn't really been at the same level since. As for Kane...we all know his deal...I agree with you big time about everything except for Kane. Kane should be there to put people over.

[Go Web Go!]

Well, if they're going to use him to put people over then he can do so as Isaac Yankem. He puts The Undertaker and the rest of his family to shame!

[John Constantine]

Kane really shouldn't be the wrestler putting other wrestlers over, that job should belong to guys like Tyson Tomko or John Heidenreich or Rosey....

[Sabretooth]

Kane needs to go to Smackdown,he could feud with The Undertaker(They always have kickass feuds) or feud with Cena and JBL

[John Constantine]

No, I don't want to see yet another feud between Kane and Undertaker! :mad:'



I think the first 10000000000000000 times they've feuded with each other is enough.....

[Twitch]

Kane should have a feud with JBL because he needs something big and I think that will do it.Also I want see a push in the US Title division Matty Hardy should take it but he was let go so my second choice would be Kidman.

[John Constantine]

Kidman, Chavo Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, and Charlie Haas should be four people who could all be feuding for the US title. Add in Orlando Jordan just because he's the current champion and maybe Booker T and that could be a good enough push.....

[Sabretooth]

No, I don't want to see yet another feud between Kane and Undertaker! :mad:'



I think the first 10000000000000000 times they've feuded with each other is enough.....
Really?I like their feuds. Plus,they could just have them not cross each other.And,since 'taker is going to be out for a while,they could use Kane as to fill the gap,IF used correctly.

Or,he could feud with Cena for the title

[John Constantine]

Really?I like their feuds. Plus,they could just have them not cross each other.And,since 'taker is going to be out for a while,they could use Kane as to fill the gap,IF used correctly.

Or,he could feud with Cena for the title

Yeah, they're feuds are okay, but it's just that they've fought each other so many times, it's become redunant. And we've seen all the combinations in their feuds: Kane as a heel vs a face Undertaker, a face Undertaker vs face Kane, a face Kane vs a face Undertaker, etc. It'll be just like getting Mick Foley to come back as Mankind to have a feud with Undertaker....

[Twitch]

Kidman, Chavo Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, and Charlie Haas should be four people who could all be feuding for the US title. Add in Orlando Jordan just because he's the current champion and maybe Booker T and that could be a good enough push.....

I agree with you on all points except Haas I see him going to Raw to feud with Shelton.

[John Constantine]

I agree with you on all points except Haas I see him going to Raw to feud with Shelton.

Yeah, I see that happening. A jealous, heel Haas feuding against Benjamin would kick so much ass :up:


But if he does manage to stay on SD, he should be part of the US title hunt....

[Twitch]

Would now be a perfect time for RVD to come back since Eddie and Rey are breaking up and they lost the titles. RVD could possibly sweep in and team up with Rey and get the tag titles back. Or he can be a heel towards Rey because he went ahead and with Eddie, not him to win back the titles.

[Sabretooth]

I sorta want Undertaker on Raw.There's really no one on SD! that he hasn't beaten already.He could go to Raw and feud with Shawn Michaels,Benoit,Orton,Batista,Flair,and hell,if he fought Triple H,I don't know who would win,since neither of them can put other wrestlers over! :up:

[brainchild81]

lol. That would be a funny match.

[Super Kal]

I sorta want Undertaker on Raw.There's really no one on SD! that he hasn't beaten already.He could go to Raw and feud with Shawn Michaels,Benoit,Orton,Batista,Flair,and hell,if he fought Triple H,I don't know who would win,since neither of them can put other wrestlers over! :up:
he has had a feud with HBK. quite a few to be exact. They were pretty deep into it right when Kane was introduced

[Go Web Go!]

Kane needs to go to Smackdown,he could feud with The Undertaker(They always have kickass feuds) or feud with Cena and JBL

Please NO...

These 2 shouldn't even come across eachother ever again until the time that The Undertaker decides to retire.

[The Ghoul]

he has had a feud with HBK. quite a few to be exact. They were pretty deep into it right when Kane was introduced

I am just quoting to say I love you avatar.

Anyway, I have to ask... How ****ing stupid does the WWE think we accually are? In 2 weeks SD! has taken 2 Tough Enough guys who had contracts & had big televised matches & when they come back & reinvent themselves they are promoted as unknowns. Matt Morgan even had his own nickname no more than a year ago(it was a bad one but a nickname none the less... God I hated the Blueprint). And Johnny Nitro was Eric Bischoff's "assistant" & during that they still made mention of him in Tough Enough. I understand the WWE wants to give these people a fresh start, but honestly, don't insult the audiences intelligence while doing it. A better example is the MNM (bad name) gimmick. We get it you are portraying hollywood stars, but when your manager lady drops names, make them people we can accually believe you know like have her say "...we were hanging out with Pauly, Macully & the Coreys..." At least then we can accualy pretend to believe you. And I am not going to complain about them winning the titles their first match because they just won so Eddie & Rey can fued without affecting the tag team division & it won't last. & if it does I will kill myself.

[Donnie Darko]

No, I don't want to see yet another feud between Kane and Undertaker! :mad:'



I think the first 10000000000000000 times they've feuded with each other is enough.....

ha, the Inferno Match in 98... worst match ever

[PyroChamber]

Did anyone else known that Melina was a Tough Enough contestant? I just found this out recently.

[Shifty]

SD to RAW
1 Angle
2 Big Show
3 Charlie Haas
4 Torrie Wilson
5 Rene Dupree

RAW to SD
1 HBK
2 Orton
3 Tajiri
4 Christian
5 Snitsky

There are other wrestlers that need a change (Jericho, Hurricane, maybe Undertaker) but that would change up both shows, make SD! more equal to RAW.

[Keyser Soze]

You think the Inferno Match was the worst match ever? Obviously you haven't seen The Kennel From Hell...

[Keyser Soze]

I went to the WWE Edinburgh house show on Friday. First wrestling show I've been to since Mayhem In Manchester in 1998, so I was really hyped. And the show didn't disappoint!

REGAL & TAJIRI VS LA RESISTANCE
Nice opener for the show. Tajiri and, in particular, Regal were popular with the crowd, who really got into this match. One downside was that the finish was a bit sudden.

CHRIS MASTERS VS THE HURRICANE
This was the match I was most dreading, as I really can't stomach Chris Masters. But the match was better than I thought it would be. Rather than just getting squashed, The Hurricane dragged Masters to a good matchup.

VAL VENIS VS VISCERA
Man, when Viscera has that coat thing on, he looks HUGE! But without the coat, he looks like he's lost a bit of weight. This was another match that pleasantly surprised me. Viscera actually pulled out a few impressive moves that made me shout "Oh my God!" However, the crowd was a bit dead for this match.

CHRISTY VS VICTORIA
Speaking of dead, I didn't sense a spark of life from this match up. The one show on the card that I just wanted to hurry up and end, definitely the worst of the night. Highlight of the match was Coach as referee, I popped for him. I think I was the only one...

CHRIS BENOIT VS TYSON TOMKO
Tyson Tomko is quite possibly the worst wrestler in WWE today. Chris Benoit is most likely the best. When these two are put together in a match, is it a sign of the apocalypse? No, actually, it was quite a good match, the only bearable Tomko match I've ever seen. Benoit made it of course, and I popped more for Benoit than I did anyone else in the night, except maybe for Christian.

SHELTON BENJAMIN VS CHRIS JERICHO VS CHRISTIAN
As I was saying, I popped big time for Christian. Sadly, I think I was one of the only ones. There was one section of the audience near the front that were cheering for him, but where I was it was all boos apart from me. This match was match of the night, I think. Really great, with everyone playing their roles perfectly. Christian was fantastic as th ecomedy heel, Chris Jericho lived up to the fan favourite image, while Shelton Benjamin showed that he is a convincing IC champ. The highlight of this match had to be an insane spot with Shelton Benjamin powerbombing Chris Jericho while Jericho was superplexing Christian. Great match - I didn't want it to end!

EDGE VS KANE
I was quite surprised that Kane won this one. However, he was very over, so perhaps that's the best thing. That being said, Edge was getting a few pops from the females in the audience, until he wiped his ass with the Scottish flag that is. Maybe it was because this was right after intermission, but I didn't really feel like I got into this match as much as I should have. Good match though.

SHAWN MICHAELS VS MUHAMMED HASSAN
This match could have been a show-stealer, but it was ruined. I am so annoyed, just as the match was really starting to heat up, a fire alarm goes off (false alarm) but the match has to be cut short. The crowd were really hot for it, and their cheers almost drowned out the alarm, but the match had to come to an abrupt end anyway. before this, the match was promising to be great. HBK was over HUGE with the audience, with almost continuous HBK chants throughout the match. Hassan, meanwhile, got more heat than anyone else on the show. I don't know how good a worker he is, because he's always given crap opponents, but Hassan certainly has the heel heat to go straight to the top if WWE are willing to back him. Fans just hate this guy. I htink he should at least be given a program with Shelton Benjamin for the IC Title.

BATISTA VS TRIPLE H AND RIC FLAIR
Thank God for Triple H. Just as everyone was beginning to think the show was cancelled, Triple H comes out, and his entrance is amazing live. I don't know if it was for him or because the show was continuing, but Triple H actually got a really big pop as he came to the ring. He takes the mic, and says "It's okay, people, please don't panic. There's no need to leave your seats, there isn't a fire. Batista pulled the alarm backstage to try and stop the match, so we wouldn't kick his ass. You see, he may look like a real big guy and all, but really he's just a big pussy." This leads to a "Batista" chant so loud that Triple H can't even talk anymore, and so we have Batista's entrance.

Man, Batista is over. Anyone who has any doubts about Batista as a main event star should have seen how hot this crowd was for him. The match itself was very entertaining. I'm glad to say Ric Flair got more "Whoo!"s than boos, and it was great seeing him do al the classic Flair stuff live. But the real star of the match in my eyes was HHH. He's actually brilliant in house shows, doing stuff he'd never do on TV. A highlight for me was his reaction to his flying elbow drop from the top rope being reversed into a boot to the face from Batista. Triple H staggers to the centre of the ring. his feet begin to tremble, then his knees begin to shake. He sways back and forth, as if he's going to fall over. After about a minute, he regains his balance, and makes a hand gesture to show he's fine. He takes two steps forward, and falls flat on his face. Triple H had done well at getting heel heat during the match, but the audience broke into applause for this performance.

Batista of course comes out victorious. In his post-match celebration, you could see that he is loving being the flagship face for the company. Someone threw a Scottish flag into the ring, and he waved it like a banner. Then he put it round his neck, to HUGE pops. He then went out and spent several minutes shaking hands etc with the fans gathered at the railings. A great close to the show.

Overall, I thought it was an excellent night. I definitely want to go to the Smackdown show in Glasgow.

[Go Web Go!]

RAW to Smackdown: Christian, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, Gene Snitsky, The Hurricane

Smackdown to RAW: The Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Charlie Haas, Orlando Jordan, Rene Dupree

[John Constantine]

You think the Inferno Match was the worst match ever? Obviously you haven't seen The Kennel From Hell...

Was that the one where they had one cage, then the hell in the cell cage outside of it. And in between it was surrounded by dogs? :confused:


Cause if so, yeah, that even sounds like a horrible gimmick match :up:

[Newlife]

RAW to Smackdown: Christian, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, Gene Snitsky, The Hurricane

Smackdown to RAW: The Undertaker, Kurt Angle, Charlie Haas, Orlando Jordan, Rene Dupree


I hope Shawn Michael's stays on Raw. I wouldn't mind see Kurt Angle on Raw though. Aswell as the Undertaker.

[3dman27]

raw to smackdown
LITA [velocity exclusive]
erich bischoff[as gm
gene snitzsky
the masterpiece
christy hemme
hhh[velocity exclusive
smackdown to raw
teddy long[as gm]
torrie wilson
dawn marie
ROB VAN DAM
rey mysterio
dawn marie

[Keyser Soze]

Hey don't knock HHH. Say what you want about him, but he's one of the best talents in WWE.

[Keyser Soze]

After reading this week's Raw results, I have to say that it seemed like Christian is finally getting the big push he has long deserved.

[kane9321]

Did anyone else known that Melina was a Tough Enough contestant? I just found this out recently.


didnt know that..which one?

[brainchild81]

Hey don't knock HHH. Say what you want about him, but he's one of the best talents in WWE.Not really. He's nowhere near being a Stone Cold or Rock or even Hogan on the mic. And he's nowhere near a Benoit or RVD or Jericho or Booker T or Kurt in the ring. They're forcing him on you every week. I rarely watch it nowadays. Every time I turn to it HHH is there and then I turn away. I try to watch Smackdown and then Hiedenrich comes out. I don't like how they make the Raw title seem like it's better than Smackdown's either. Smackdown shouldn't be known as the minor league. If I remember right, the RAW title was just given to HHH where as the Smackdown title comes straight from the Undisputed title. I know it's fake, but the Smackdown title should be made to look more legit.

[Lobo]

Not really. He's nowhere near being a Stone Cold or Rock or even Hogan on the mic. And he's nowhere near a Benoit or RVD or Jericho or Booker T or Kurt in the ring. They're forcing him on you every week. I rarely watch it nowadays. Every time I turn to it HHH is there and then I turn away. I try to watch Smackdown and then Hiedenrich comes out. I don't like how they make the Raw title seem like it's better than Smackdown's either. Smackdown shouldn't be known as the minor league. If I remember right, the RAW title was just given to HHH where as the Smackdown title comes straight from the Undisputed title. I know it's fake, but the Smackdown title should be made to look more legit.


GET OUT OF MY HEAD!



CHRISTIAN DAMMIT!

[brainchild81]

lol In fact, everyone I mentioned except maybe Hiedenrich or Hogan is a better wrestler. And oddly enough, Hogan carried HHH in that match they had.

[Caliber]

So did Vicersa get lucky?

[Spider-Nerd]

Not really. He's nowhere near being a Stone Cold or Rock or even Hogan on the mic. And he's nowhere near a Benoit or RVD or Jericho or Booker T or Kurt in the ring. They're forcing him on you every week. I rarely watch it nowadays. Every time I turn to it HHH is there and then I turn away. I try to watch Smackdown and then Hiedenrich comes out. I don't like how they make the Raw title seem like it's better than Smackdown's either. Smackdown shouldn't be known as the minor league. If I remember right, the RAW title was just given to HHH where as the Smackdown title comes straight from the Undisputed title. I know it's fake, but the Smackdown title should be made to look more legit.
Say what you want about hunter, but the guy works his ass off, and is just as good as hogan or austin on the mic (austin wasn't that great to begin with). Hunter's good enough to carry even the worst to a good match, though he's no kurt angle or chris benoit; that much is clear. Yes he's been around for a while, but the guy's trying his hardest to get new talent over. It's not his fault that creative screws up (see randy orton's face turn).

And on a serious note, Push Captain Charisma!

[Spider-Nerd]

So did Vicersa get lucky?
I was at RAW at msg a week ago, and when he came out we chanted, "Let's go mable!"

[Donnie Darko]

ok, I missed Raw COMPLETELY last night, so I need some results and info about why it looks like Christian is getting his push.

[Sabretooth]

Oh yes.It has happened.Eddie turns heel on SD! this week

And supposedly Undertaker came back.Didn't he need to get surgery or something?:confused:

[Jason Blood]

meh

Eddie turned heel last week (for me at least)

[The Techno Bat]

So did Vicersa get lucky?

I would say yes, he didn't "score" but on there date Trish stood up and opened her shirt for Viscera to see, but of course we couldn't see anything :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

I like Batista as a character but i really don't think he's good enough in the ring.Christian was amde to look incompotent as Batista Stumbled through his basic routine..........*sigh* WWE drops another ball:(

[The Techno Bat]

ok, I missed Raw COMPLETELY last night, so I need some results and info about why it looks like Christian is getting his push.

Pretty decent show last night.

Val Venis was actually back on Raw, only to be beaten by Edge, who after the match started mocking Chris Benoit by putting on the sharpshooter and crossface on Val Venis, which brought Benoit down who hit three German's on Edge and chased Edge to the backstage area.

Hassan and Davari beat Regal and Tajiri in a non title tag team match.

Hogan and HBK did an interview backstage with Mean Gene, boy was it great seeing Mean Gene.

Christian's match with Batista really pissed me off because it was all about Triple H! Why couldn't Christian just go in against Batista have a good showing and be done with it? Instead it was a big mess as Ric Flair was the special time keeper, HHH made The Coach the special guest referee, and there was alot of interfering. Batista finally won, but got Pedigreed in the end by HHH!

[The Techno Bat]

I like Batista as a character but i really don't think he's good enough in the ring.Christian was amde to look incompotent as Batista Stumbled through his basic routine..........*sigh* WWE drops another ball:(

That really pissed me off! Christian is starting to get over big time, and his stuff with Ric Flair last night backstage was FUNNY!

[John Constantine]

Pretty decent show last night.

Val Venis was actually back on Raw, only to be beaten by Edge, who after the match started mocking Chris Benoit by putting on the sharpshooter and crossface on Val Venis, which brought Benoit down who hit three German's on Edge and chased Edge to the backstage area.


Edge fought his former brother-in-law :eek: :D


It's kinda weird that Val isn't seen much considering his sister used to be Edge's wife as well? :confused: :o


Of course that could have a lot to do with him being a bit stale now, but....

[Weadazoid]

Yeah It started off so perfectly Batista came out and had a good promo, Chrisitans work with Flair in the back was perfect, him cutting up HHH was increadible.

Then they went and had kane Destroy Tomko for like no reason what so ever, and they made Chrisitan Grovel to HHH for help.

I would have rather seen him go out with Tomko get help from HHH get the win through cheating.

[Jason Blood]

I love how they're calling his Edgecution the Impaler again

[Sabretooth]

I hate how Kane is coming out at random now.Especially when Christian was kicking ass with that promo :mad:

[Jason Blood]

He's done that for a while

at least I think

[The Ghoul]

Hey don't knock HHH. Say what you want about him, but he's one of the best talents in WWE.

You know what, I completley agree. **** it, I'll say it; I like HHH. I think he is very entertaining in & out of the ring. Very few wrestlers had character that was really believable as HHH. So what if he is selfish about the belt. He has been loyal to the WWE for 10 years now. He is one of the few who truley deserve the top spot in the business. If you people were in his position you would do the same. How many of you dream of winning the world title... & if he wants to bang the bosses wife while achieving his dream, more power to him. If he wants his favorite band, Motorhead, to play his entrance theme great. If I was a professional wrestler I would love to be that sociopathic mastermind heel like HHH.

[3dman27]

you mean the bosses daughter thats justifiable in this case he IS married to stephanie after all

[3dman27]

i see that matt hardy is in negotiations with ring of honor wrestling [source lordsofpain.net ]

[Keyser Soze]

Well that makes sense. When Jeff Hardy showed up at ROH, he was booed out of the building, and they all chanted "We Want Matt!"

[The Sage]

Not really. He's nowhere near being a Stone Cold or Rock or even Hogan on the mic. And he's nowhere near a Benoit or RVD or Jericho or Booker T or Kurt in the ring. They're forcing him on you every week. I rarely watch it nowadays. Every time I turn to it HHH is there and then I turn away. I try to watch Smackdown and then Hiedenrich comes out. I don't like how they make the Raw title seem like it's better than Smackdown's either. Smackdown shouldn't be known as the minor league. If I remember right, the RAW title was just given to HHH where as the Smackdown title comes straight from the Undisputed title. I know it's fake, but the Smackdown title should be made to look more legit.
:up::up:

[Keyser Soze]

I'd say HHH's promos are good enough in an old-school heel way. Just because he doesn't spout a catchphrase to slap on a T-shirt every other week doesn't mean he can't deliver on the mic. And while he is no Kurt Angle or Chris Benoit when it comes down to technical ability, he is superior in the ring to the aging Booker T and the sometimes sloppy Rob Van Dam. It annoys me that, just because people don't like HHH, they have to jump to the conclusion that he is a bad wrestler. He was in some of the best WWE matches of 2004. And no, he wasn't just being carried.

And as for him being on TV every week, its due to the fact that, like him or not, he's one of the biggest stars WWE has. Though Smackdown does need to be improved I'll give you that.

[trombonemaestro]

you mean the bosses daughter thats justifiable in this case he IS married to stephanie after all

who knows, maybe he's doin' mama mcmahon too.

[kane9321]

i really dont get the triple h heat in here..hes a darn good wrestler..and he great mike skills ....so whats the problem?

[Lobo]

HHH is a good wrestler, but his mic skills are avearge at best, and he's the reason people like RVD, Jericho, Christian, Booker T, and Chris Benoit are held down to the mid card that's why myself and many others have problem with him.

[Hunter Rider]

To me HHH is the best promo cutter in the buissness,The others mentioned here like Hogan and Rock rely on cheesy catchphrases and limp lead ins.HHH like Flair before him can cut a promo that is story based and not just T-shirt catchphrases strung together like many guys in the buisness.Mentioning his talent ? he isnt the most exciting wrestler in the industry but he knows how to work a match better than anyone and proved it when he carried Batista at WM21.Anyway the most talented guys are rarely champions in WWE,Look at Hogan and Austin neither have a smidgen of actual wrestling talent but there the 2 biggest names ever,just how WWE works look at our current 2 champs for more proof.

[Hunter Rider]

HHH is a good wrestler, but his mic skills are avearge at best, and he's the reason people like RVD, Jericho, Christian, Booker T, and Chris Benoit are held down to the mid card that's why myself and many others have problem with him.

Booker T just doesnt have the X factor and neither does RVD Benoit is a badass but lacks mic skills to carry a show at the top

[Spider-Nerd]

you mean the bosses daughter thats justifiable in this case he IS married to stephanie after allhunter was at the top before he was even involved with steph, so I don't think that's a relevant argument.

[Lobo]

Booker T just doesnt have the X factor and neither does RVD Benoit is a badass but lacks mic skills to carry a show at the top


IMO and I stress imo HHH doesn't have that X factor either that could be why I never like him as world champion. Benoit's mic skills are pathetic. I think RVD could be champion lets see if he ever gets a title shot :(. And Jericho was the best Undisputed Champion to me. Also I'd much rather have Booker T the Smackdown champion then John Cena. And I like Cena I just don't think he should be the world champion.

[Lobo]

To me HHH is the best promo cutter in the buissness,The others mentioned here like Hogan and Rock rely on cheesy catchphrases and limp lead ins.HHH like Flair before him can cut a promo that is story based and not just T-shirt catchphrases strung together like many guys in the buisness.Mentioning his talent ? he isnt the most exciting wrestler in the industry but he knows how to work a match better than anyone and proved it when he carried Batista at WM21.Anyway the most talented guys are rarely champions in WWE,Look at Hogan and Austin neither have a smidgen of actual wrestling talent but there the 2 biggest names ever,just how WWE works look at our current 2 champs for more proof.


Ric Flair>Hogan, Stone Cold, HHH, The Rock and anyone else :mad:

[Jason Blood]

hunter was at the top before he was even involved with steph, so I don't think that's a relevant argument.

I must give you props for that avatar

tis an excellent one

[Hunter Rider]

IMO and I stress imo HHH doesn't have that X factor either that could be why I never like him as world champion. Benoit's mic skills are pathetic. I think RVD could be champion lets see if he ever gets a title shot :(. And Jericho was the best Undisputed Champion to me. Also I'd much rather have Booker T the Smackdown champion then John Cena. And I like Cena I just don't think he should be the world champion.

see with HHH i'll admit that I'm a fan but i think that his X factor has been proven to work for a large percentage with the general audience.It was like in 2001/2 ppl were still loving stone cold an i can admit he had the X factor but i was so tired of him i almost stopped watching.I'm just looking at the bigger picture of overall view on HHH as a main eventer But rest assured your not alone my dad is tired of HHH in the top spot also.As for Cena im still unconvinced he's good enough to be champ but to me Booker is just a mid carder and lacks the tools for WWE champ/RVD will never be champ unless WWE decide to let him have the type of run they gave Benoit but he'll never be a #1 guy like Austin/HHH/HBK etc.Y2j is a guy who could be a show leader but the WWE have criminaly neglegted him

[Jason Blood]

Everyone knows Matt Morgan cuts the best promos!

it's so obvious:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Everyone knows Matt Morgan cuts the best promos!

it's so obvious:rolleyes:

Why have they given him that stupid Gimmick ? he looks like he could be promoted as a monster heel and there using him as an idiot

[kakashi]

Have to disagree with you on the austin coment there Hunter.Austin CAN wrestle,it's just that his character is supposed to be a brawler so most of the time he just doesn't wrestle the old school way.

There's more to wrestling than just knowing wristlocks and submission holds.One has to know how to make a match exciting to watch.You may know 3000 different wrestling holds,but nobody will really care if your matches are boring.

The same thing can be said about cutting a promo.Triple H promo's maybe story based and not just a bunch of cathcphrases strung together,but it really doesn't matter if a lot of people finds them boring.They don't put the E in WWE just for comedy effect.Entertaining the fans is the bottom line,all the other technical aspects in wrestling is just secondary in my opinion.

Triple H IS a talented worker,he's just not that exciting to watch.His matches are repetitives and his Promo's are boring in my opinion.And since what really matters in wrestling is to entertain the fans whether as heel or a face, in my humble opinionTriple H is just not that damn good.

[Hunter Rider]

Have to disagree with you on the austin coment there Hunter.Austin CAN wrestle,it's just that his character is supposed to be a brawler so most of the time he just doesn't wrestle the old school way.

There's more to wrestling than just knowing wristlocks and submission holds.One has to know how to make a match exciting to watch.You may know 3000 different wrestling holds,but nobody will really care if your matches are boring.

The same thing can be said about cutting a promo.Triple H promo's maybe story based and not just a bunch of cathcphrases strung together,but it really doesn't matter if a lot of people finds them boring.They don't put the E in WWE just for comedy effect.Entertaining the fans is the bottom line,all the other technical aspects in wrestling is just secondary in my opinion.

Triple H IS a talented worker,he's just not that exciting to watch.His matches are repetitives and his Promo's are boring in my opinion.And since what really matters in wrestling is to entertain the fans whether as heel or a face, in my humble opinionTriple H is just not that damn good.

well the whole HHH thing is a subjective point but he must have more fans than haters otherwise WWE wouldn't keep him at the top they'd bump him down.Ive been watching for over 15 years now and whilst i accept that entertaining is a big part of the game it baffles me how grown men sit in the crowd and find the stuff austin and Rock say entertaining.Yes the Rock is entertaining now but he went through a phase where he said the same thing everytime and austins stuff was just basic tough guy trash talk..As for Austin ,yes he could wrestle many years ago when he was a hollywood blonde with Pillman but he was never a great wrestler like Benoit or Hart or a great athlete like HBK or Angle he was always mediocre in the ring and injuries ment his last 3 years in the ring were atrocious .

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I'm just gonna stay out of these Triple H arguments from now on. They go nowhere actually. Some people like him, some people don't. It's as simple as that :confused: :o

Why have they given him that stupid Gimmick ? he looks like he could be promoted as a monster heel and there using him as an idiot

I think it's because they're trying to give all OVW call-up's a "gimmick" now. The funniest one has to be that diva coming up who's gimmick is......having a mole on her face :rolleyes:


God, that's stupid as hell....

[Sabretooth]

Sounds like that guy from Austin Powers Goldmember.:D

[Jason Blood]

The writers suck sooo much

eeeveryone from OVW gets a ****ty gimmick (especially "Eugene")

[Sabretooth]

Remember Mordecai?:rolleyes:

[Jason Blood]

Why can't John Cena turn heel again?

I loved him as a heel

as soon as he turned face his raps started sucking down to the point where he doesn't even rap anymore

[Spider-Nerd]

The writers suck sooo much

eeeveryone from OVW gets a ****ty gimmick (especially "Eugene")
MNM isn't bad.

[3dman27]

Well that makes sense. When Jeff Hardy showed up at ROH, he was booed out of the building, and they all chanted "We Want Matt!"
you don't say [i don't follow ROH so i wouldn't know] after i posted about matt this morning i noticed an irony
ring of honor is [if i understand correctly ]a cristian based wrestling federation and nora greenwald formerly molly holly is a born again christian she might be the one i'd expect to find work at ROH not matt

[Jason Blood]

MNM isn't bad.

Thank you for reminding me

MNM is ****ing awesome

[Go Web Go!]

The writers suck sooo much

eeeveryone from OVW gets a ****ty gimmick (especially "Eugene")

Everyone as of late, sure, but not everyone that has come out of OVW. Lets not forget that Batista, John Cena, Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar, and Shelton Benjamin have all come out of there within the last few years. And all of them (except for Shelton) have held either the WWE title or World title. :up:

[kakashi]

well the whole HHH thing is a subjective point but he must have more fans than haters otherwise WWE wouldn't keep him at the top they'd bump him down.Ive been watching for over 15 years now and whilst i accept that entertaining is a big part of the game it baffles me how grown men sit in the crowd and find the stuff austin and Rock say entertaining.Yes the Rock is entertaining now but he went through a phase where he said the same thing everytime and austins stuff was just basic tough guy trash talk..As for Austin ,yes he could wrestle many years ago when he was a hollywood blonde with Pillman but he was never a great wrestler like Benoit or Hart or a great athlete like HBK or Angle he was always mediocre in the ring and injuries ment his last 3 years in the ring were atrocious .

It baffles me how grown men can sit in the crowd and find two men pretending to fights is entertaining :p

Like you said it yourself,entertainment is a big part of wrestling,and quite simply,Watching Austin and the Rock cuts a promo or wrestling is more entertaining to a lot of people,than watching Triple H does the same thing.

But hey,that's what makes wrestling great right? there's something for everybody in it.If you don't like the high flyers wrestlers...there's technical wrestlers for you to root for.

In my opinion,being an entertaining wrestler/performer is way more important than being the most technical.Take away the interesting gimmicks,catchphrases, and ring presence...what you've got left is simply two men pretending to fight.

[John Constantine]

Why can't John Cena turn heel again?

I loved him as a heel

as soon as he turned face his raps started sucking down to the point where he doesn't even rap anymore

I'm hoping eventually fans turn against him and the WWE is forced to turn him heel again :up:

It might happen soon with him carrying around that damn spinner....:mad:

[John Constantine]

Everyone as of late, sure, but not everyone that has come out of OVW. Lets not forget that Batista, John Cena, Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar, and Shelton Benjamin have all come out of there within the last few years. And all of them (except for Shelton) have held either the WWE title or World title. :up:

Yeah, it's only with the recent call-ups from OVW that they decided to give them a gimmick. But that could have a lot to do as well with the poor quality of the majority of the wrestlers coming from OVW.....

[Hunter Rider]

It baffles me how grown men can sit in the crowd and find two men pretending to fights is entertaining :p

Like you said it yourself,entertainment is a big part of wrestling,and quite simply,Watching Austin and the Rock cuts a promo or wrestling is more entertaining to a lot of people,than watching Triple H does the same thing.

But hey,that's what makes wrestling great right? there's something for everybody in it.If you don't like the high flyers wrestlers...there's technical wrestlers for you to root for.

In my opinion,being an entertaining wrestler/performer is way more important than being the most technical.Take away the interesting gimmicks,catchphrases, and ring presence...what you've got left is simply two men pretending to fight.

lol:D good points,you hit the nail on the head when you said something for everyone:up: as for the last part i agree to a point but i like some ring talent to go with the catchprases and gimmicks.otherwise you just have a guy with good marketing

[Sabretooth]

Everyone as of late, sure, but not everyone that has come out of OVW. Lets not forget that Batista, John Cena, Randy Orton, Brock Lesnar, and Shelton Benjamin have all come out of there within the last few years. And all of them (except for Shelton) have held either the WWE title or World title. :up:
Simon Dean is also from there,and his gimmick's awesome. :up:


As for heel Cena,I hope it happens.Cena has so much potential as a heel.

[PyroChamber]

I totally forgot, but what did they have Cena do to become a face anyway? Who did he feud against at that time?

[John Constantine]

Simon Dean is also from there,and his gimmick's awesome. :up:


To be honest, Simon Dean really isn't an OVW product per se. He was from there, but he only was there for a few weeks to train. He kicked ass before as Nova from ECW :up:

You could say the same thing with Paul London as well, except he was in ROH and TNA....

[The Ghoul]

you mean the bosses daughter thats justifiable in this case he IS married to stephanie after all

Holy ****! I feel so dumb. I was drunk when I wrote that. This is a reminder to double check all my posts. Thanks for the heads up. I still stand by everything else though.

[Donnie Darko]

since people have been talking about mic skills, here are my 3 faves to listen to on the mic...
Jericho
Christian
and the man... Carlito

[brainchild81]

Mine are
Jericho
Christian
& Kurt.
Oh, it's true. It's damn true!

[kane9321]

Remember Mordecai?:rolleyes:


ya know..I was wondering where the hell did he go...he was geting all the hype and promos..i saw him once on smackdown..and that was it..wtf

[Go Web Go!]

ya know..I was wondering where the hell did he go...he was geting all the hype and promos..i saw him once on smackdown..and that was it..wtf

Yup. He was apparently coming after Eddie Guerrero and talking about him in his romos, but he disappeared soon after. Back to OVW it is...

[brainchild81]

Horrible gimmick.

[Lobo]

Favorites on the Mic

1. Jericho
2. Christian
3. JBL

[Jason Blood]

Simon Dean is gold on the mic but they just refuse to give him a chance

I seriously think that they should ship a looot of people down to OVW so they can work on their mic skills

there are a whole lot of good wrestlers that could seriously use some mic training

[Go Web Go!]

Simon Dean is gold on the mic but they just refuse to give him a chance

I seriously think that they should ship a looot of people down to OVW so they can work on their mic skills

there are a whole lot of good wrestlers that could seriously use some mic training

If they were to do that it would be the same 5 guys on each show every week. That's already the case, but you know what I mean.

[The Ghoul]

Favorites on the mic.
1. Mick Foley
2. ECW Raven (for some reason his best promos where just in ECW)
3. Jericho

[angelus777]

Hey where's the the ROCK???

1. ROCK
2. MICK FOLEY
3.AUSTIN
4. ANGLE
5.CHRISTIAN

[Spider-Nerd]

Rock isn't in wrestling anymore, but if we're talking about all time guys........

Ted Debiase
Mr. Perfect
Bobby Heenan
Rowdy Piper
Angle


GOLD.

[John Constantine]

ya know..I was wondering where the hell did he go...he was geting all the hype and promos..i saw him once on smackdown..and that was it..wtf

Probably due to his lack of wrestling ability. I wish they would do that a lot more with OVW call-ups. coughcough*ChrisMasters*coughcough

[John Constantine]

Holy ****, apparently Chris Candido, aka Skip of the Bodydonnas, has passed away from a staph infection.


And this was only less than a week after he injured himself seriously in the TNA PPV...

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005/articles/1114750866.php


:( :( :(

[3dman27]

Yup. He was apparently coming after Eddie Guerrero and talking about him in his romos, but he disappeared soon after. Back to OVW it is...
it was the undertakerthat mordecai was after not eddie he was supposed to be some kind of monk or priest and he considered the dead man unholy :ghost:

[3dman27]

Holy ****, apparently Chris Candido, aka Skip of the Bodydonnas, has passed away from a staph infection.


And this was only less than a week after he injured himself seriously in the TNA PPV...

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005/articles/1114750866.php


:( :( :(
my condolenses to his family

[Twitch]

Oh yeah JBL won his title shot. Now the real championship can actually mean something

[Metamorpho1977]

Top 5 on the Mic
1.Hogan, I mean what's cooler than "What ya gonna do when Hulkamania runs wild on you?"
2.Sting used to give some awesome mic promos.
3.Dusty Rhodes-hard to understand what he said half the time, but he could deliver one liners like there's no tomorrow.
4.Ric Flair-just awesome
5.Stone Cold Steve Austin, his speeches weren't all that memorable, but he always came out on top when his promos were interrupted.

[Sabretooth]

it was the undertakerthat mordecai was after not eddie he was supposed to be some kind of monk or priest and he considered the dead man unholy :ghost:
Uhm no he was definitely after Eddie.In one promo,he was talking about how a wrestler ''lies,cheats and steals'' in other words,Eddie,Undertaker doesn't cheat,dude.:o

[The Ghoul]

Uhm no he was definitely after Eddie.In one promo,he was talking about how a wrestler ''lies,cheats and steals'' in other words,Eddie,Undertaker doesn't cheat,dude.:o

He thought everyone was unholy. He was like a rampaging evangilist; beating the crap out people to get his holy message across. I remember his last week there he was (for no reason at all) having a fist fight with bob holly & it made no sence & even less when he wasn't there the next week.

[Lobo]

Chris candido :( another one bites the dust

[Hunter Rider]

Chris candido :( another one bites the dust

the list is getting longer:(

[kane9321]

melina is soooooo hot

[John Constantine]

Chris candido :( another one bites the dust

He was still pretty young at well. 33 years old.....:(

[Sabretooth]

Damn man,the guy WAS young.33?So young.:(

[3dman27]

Uhm no he was definitely after Eddie.In one promo,he was talking about how a wrestler ''lies,cheats and steals'' in other words,Eddie,Undertaker doesn't cheat,dude.:o
oh i meant when he first appeared
he WAS after the taker at the time i skipped last nights show so i didn'tknow about that

[The Ghoul]

He was still pretty young at well. 33 years old.....:(

33 is very young considering how long Candido has been a popular name in professional wrestling. It's been pretty well over 10 years maybe even over 15 years.

R.I.P Chris "No Gimmicks Needed" Candido (1972-2005) I'm sure wherever he is he's got the world title & ECW chants are everywhere.


Okay enough touching moments. How bad do you think John Cena's CD is going to bomb.

[TheS4ndman]

Underweartaker Ruless!!!!!

[lmaotan]

the nature boy is the sixteen times world heavy weight champion WOOOOOOOO!!!!
he beat many plp and being the dirtyest player in the game!!!!!!

[lmaotan]

i am sure some of u like bert hart, he had a lot of potential in his wresling creaar
and same goes to our dear old masked kane

[Sabretooth]

Underweartaker Ruless!!!!!
Dude.Seriously.Shut up.Your adding nothing to our conversations and you're not funny.Aren't you like 12?Start acting your age.:o

[The Ghoul]

Dude.Seriously.Shut up.Your adding nothing to our conversations and you're not funny.Aren't you like 12?Start acting your age.:o

It's really sad when someone has to resort to the internet for attention... (I don't think his parents love him.)

[Go Web Go!]

oh i meant when he first appeared
he WAS after the taker at the time i skipped last nights show so i didn'tknow about that

The plan was to have him feud with The Undertaker when he debuted leading to a matxh between the 2, but with the power that he has backstage he was able to avoid a feud with the guy. I believe he did the same with Heidenreich at first, but eventually began a program with him.

Why is it that Taker is usually stuck having to break in the newbies? Mordecai, Nathan Jones, Heidenreich, and so on...

[The Ghoul]

Why is it that Taker is usually stuck having to break in the newbies? Mordecai, Nathan Jones, Heidenreich, and so on...

I think it's a backstage personality thing. From the things I read, I gathered that Bob Holly, Bradshaw & Taker are the toughest on rookies. And codsidering the power these 3 have backstage, the writers & producers & such put them in fueds with anyone of them as kind of an initiation. That's why Nathan Jones & Mordecai are gone, because they couldn't take that (granted Mordecai never accualyfueded with taker before he left, still.) And John Heidenreich was able to just go with it & deal untill he is officially no longer considered a rookie.

[Jason Blood]

I sense a Holly V. Masters Feud coming (if he is being shipped to Raw like I've heard)

oh yeah I heard that Candido died from a blood clot

[John Constantine]

33 is very young considering how long Candido has been a popular name in professional wrestling. It's been pretty well over 10 years maybe even over 15 years.

R.I.P Chris "No Gimmicks Needed" Candido (1972-2005) I'm sure wherever he is he's got the world title & ECW chants are everywhere.


Okay enough touching moments. How bad do you think John Cena's CD is going to bomb.

Very, very badly. Like almost Macho Man bad :up:

I honestly don't know why he doesn't rap now to "promote" the album :confused:

[Go Web Go!]

I could sell more cd's than John Cena, :)

[Spider-Nerd]

33 is very young considering how long Candido has been a popular name in professional wrestling. It's been pretty well over 10 years maybe even over 15 years.

R.I.P Chris "No Gimmicks Needed" Candido (1972-2005) I'm sure wherever he is he's got the world title & ECW chants are everywhere.
Really, Candido was 33, and I remember him being in the wwe 10 years ago, which means he was only 23 at the time. He really did clean up his act and had success ahead of him. Rest in Peace Candido, forever skip the body donna.

[The Ghoul]

I don't think it will be Macho Man bad. I'm sure some 10 year old is going to get it for his birthday & will grow to dispise his parents for it. (that's at least 1 more than Macho Man's cd)

[Jason Blood]

I almost forgot

I think Matt Morgan's new finisher is a sort of "Super" STO

[Go Web Go!]

I almost forgot

I think Matt Morgan's new finisher is a sort of "Super" STO

Or as I call it, the Stutterer!

Maybe the Stutter Slam?

[John Constantine]

He doesn't stutter though! :mad: ;)

Matt Morgan's new finisher isn't that bad to be honest. And he's probably one of the few good wrestlers his size who's been called up from OVW.....

[The Techno Bat]

I would like to see Matt Morgan use his finisher on a bigger guy around his size, I bet he wouldn't be able to pull it off. (It is pretty cool)

[The Ghoul]

I'm going to go out on a limb & say that if Matt Morgan gets a real push, he is going to have a catch phrase where after every promo he ends with "... Now, did I stutter?" But the interesting thing is he probebly did.

[Go Web Go!]

They should have him feud against The Big Show

[The Ghoul]

They should quit throwing him jobbers & put him in a real match... & this is coming from the #1 Jobber. Thank you very much. Now, pin me & pay me.

[TheS4ndman]

woah sorry i just wanted to show my friend how to use the hype .relax..

[JINoside]

I almost forgot

I think Matt Morgan's new finisher is a sort of "Super" STO

Errm.....Its more of a vertical suplex where he holds them for a few seconds into a choke slam to the matt. That being said its obvious that its impossible for him to do it to someone like Hiendenreich(sp?) or Big Show. Thats a finisher that needs alot of strength just to hold them up and coordination to catch them in time without injuring the oponent. Making it very dangerous......

[John Constantine]

I would like to see Matt Morgan use his finisher on a bigger guy around his size, I bet he wouldn't be able to pull it off. (It is pretty cool)

You could say that with a lot of finishers though......

[John Constantine]

I'm going to go out on a limb & say that if Matt Morgan gets a real push, he is going to have a catch phrase where after every promo he ends with "... Now, did I stutter?" But the interesting thing is he probebly did.

Or they could go the Bubba Ray approach when he was in ECW and have the fans chant "Whats your name?" :up:

[The Techno Bat]

You could say that with a lot of finishers though......

this is true. And since we are on the topic of finishers. What would you say is your favorite finisher?

Mine is Vampiro's Final Nail in the Coffin

[Go Web Go!]

this is true. And since we are on the topic of finishers. What would you say is your favorite finisher?

Mine is Vampiro's Final Nail in the Coffin

The Vertebreaker was cool, but then they banned it. :down

[The Techno Bat]

The Vertebreaker was cool, but then they banned it. :down

that was an awesome finisher. Didn't the hurricane call it The Nightmare on Helms street when he was in wCw?

[Go Web Go!]

that was an awesome finisher. Didn't the hurricane call it The Nightmare on Helms street when he was in wCw?

No, that was another move of his that was much like the Big Show's "Final Cut.'' Last I saw, he was still using it, but it's now called "The Eye of the Hurricane'.

[The Techno Bat]

Do you think the WWE is doing the right thing by not really promoting the eCw PPV in June? They are not going big production with it (no pyro like RAW & SMACKDOWN), it is in a small venue. They want to have that real eCw feel to it.

Thoughts? Does anybody even care?

[Go Web Go!]

I don't mind. They should promote it on tv, but that's the only problem I'd have. Not having the wrestlers involved in any storylines is probably the right way to go. You wouldn't want them in any crap storylines that the WWE is nown for. If it were up to me I would have certain participants in the PPV make appearances leading up to the show.

Anyway, Backlash results so far:

Sheton Benjamin def. Chris Jericho; The Hurricane & Rosey win the Tag Team Turmoil match (New Tag champs); Benoit def. Edge; Kane def. Viscera

[Sabretooth]

Watch Rosey and Hurricane lose the tag titles really soon in a most embarassing way.I'm suprised HHH hasn't been giving them crap lately...

[Go Web Go!]

Hogan and HBK win; Batista regains title

That's the rest of the results...

[Sabretooth]

Good.Hopefully now they can start up a Batista vs. Edge feud.

[brainchild81]

this is true. And since we are on the topic of finishers. What would you say is your favorite finisher?

Mine is Vampiro's Final Nail in the CoffinShining Wizard or Burning Hammer

[John Constantine]

Do you think the WWE is doing the right thing by not really promoting the eCw PPV in June? They are not going big production with it (no pyro like RAW & SMACKDOWN), it is in a small venue. They want to have that real eCw feel to it.

Thoughts? Does anybody even care?

Yeah, I'd rather have it that way. Doing it like that makes the PPV seem even more like a PPV ECW does, that is, it's up to the fans to find out about it and track it down.

I'm glad they're putting as close to an ECW feel to it as possible. The biggest fear I had about the PPV was that the WWE was gonna put their own little touch to it....

[The Techno Bat]

Good.Hopefully now they can start up a Batista vs. Edge feud.

I don't see where they can get enough credibility having Edge face Batista when he cannot even beat Chris Benoit

[3dman27]

I don't mind. They should promote it on tv, but that's the only problem I'd have. Not having the wrestlers involved in any storylines is probably the right way to go. You wouldn't want them in any crap storylines that the WWE is nown for. If it were up to me I would have certain participants in the PPV make appearances leading up to the show.

Anyway, Backlash results so far:

Sheton Benjamin def. Chris Jericho; The Hurricane & Rosey win the Tag Team Turmoil match (New Tag champs); Benoit def. Edge; Kane def. Viscera the superheroes are the new tag team champs WHATSUP WITHTHAT? thanks gwg you just reactivated my interest in the wwe that left when nora [molly]greenwald was released

[The Ghoul]

Yeah, I'd rather have it that way. Doing it like that makes the PPV seem even more like a PPV ECW does, that is, it's up to the fans to find out about it and track it down.

I'm glad they're putting as close to an ECW feel to it as possible. The biggest fear I had about the PPV was that the WWE was gonna put their own little touch to it....

I just hope they have Paul E. there. They had a very bitter parting when he was fired, but you can't have ECW without Paul E. And as you may have already noticed ECW was the most important federation to me. Ever sence i was a little kid I loved ECW & it never stoped being a small obssession of mine... Do you think it's going to be at the ECW(bingo hall)Arena? that would be awesome

[Donnie Darko]

ok, so I love the Hurricane, but what exactly is a "Tag Team Turmoil" match?

[John Constantine]

I just hope they have Paul E. there. They had a very bitter parting when he was fired, but you can't have ECW without Paul E. And as you may have already noticed ECW was the most important federation to me. Ever sence i was a little kid I loved ECW & it never stoped being a small obssession of mine... Do you think it's going to be at the ECW(bingo hall)Arena? that would be awesome

Last I read, Tommy Dreamer was the main person technically in charge of the event with Paul Heyman providing a lot of input. About the bingo hall, not really sure about that. But if the PPV is in any other place than Philly, it won't be good.....

[Lobo]

Christian stole the show once again :D

[Donnie Darko]

what did Christian do?

[Lobo]

what did Christian do?


He came out and talked about the draft later this month, and how this might be his last ever raw ppv, and how he's a main eventer and then did a rap about the other main eventers Batista, HHH + Flair, JBL, and Cena his rap was funny as hell.

[Caliber]

Was Backlash good?

[brainchild81]

I just hope they have Paul E. there. They had a very bitter parting when he was fired, but you can't have ECW without Paul E. And as you may have already noticed ECW was the most important federation to me. Ever sence i was a little kid I loved ECW & it never stoped being a small obssession of mine... Do you think it's going to be at the ECW(bingo hall)Arena? that would be awesomeI kind of hope so. That's the only way I'll see it. I kind of hate the idea that my $$ will probably end up in Vince's pocket after the way he's treated the ECW guys.

[GLfan]

Backlash was pretty good, I enjoyed the show very much. The only part I thought was a waste of time, was the whole thing with that body builder poser guy. It was senseless, they should have put him up against someone.

[Go Web Go!]

ok, so I love the Hurricane, but what exactly is a "Tag Team Turmoil" match?

A match with many Tag Teams, ;)

[3dman27]

think of a tag team version of the royal rumble

[Spider-Nerd]

Was Backlash good?
wasn't bad. I feel like i got my money's worth. The Shelton/Jericho match was absolute gold and it looks like we might be getting a jericho heel turn in the future. Christian once again was awesome in his promo.....great line he ended with. "So whether it's JR or Michael Cole. I WILL be champion, cause THAT'S HOW I ROLL."

[Spider-Nerd]

think of a tag team version of the royal rumble
not quite, it was more of a gaunlet type match.

[Sabretooth]

Christian really should go to Smackdown and burn Cena's title :)

[John Constantine]

That might give him an instant face turn :)

[Go Web Go!]

No face turn for Christian! Pleeeease! :(

[Donnie Darko]

there they go killing any championship heat for Christian. Although, it would be sweet if he interfered in HHH's match tonight, making him lose, and they had a little feud.

[Sabretooth]

That Shelton vs Michaels match was awesome.:cool:

[Donnie Darko]

yes it was, but as much as I love HBK and think he's one of the all-time greats, it felt like Shelton carried the whole match (was I the only one that felt that way?)

[Donnie Darko]

ps- I am loving seeing the Hurricane with gold again

[Sabretooth]

yes it was, but as much as I love HBK and think he's one of the all-time greats, it felt like Shelton carried the whole match (was I the only one that felt that way?)
Yeah.Benjamin definitely made that match.Michaels seemed a little...slowed down.I don't know,but Shelton was really why I think the match was so good.

[Newlife]

I thought the Rock's contract with WWE was already up, so therefore he was not going to re-new it because he wanted to act.

and then....on Raw, JR just said he talked to the Rock today and that the Rock said he can't wait to come back and electrify the fans.

Now, i know JR probably didnt really talk to the Rock today but if the Rock's contract was done, why would JR say the thing about the Rock can't wait to get back?

Maybe, im missing something but obviously they wouldn't have JR say that the Rock is hyped to come back if the Rock wasn't coming back. I also really hope he does come back.

[Donnie Darko]

or, it could just be to keep all of us Rock fans hanging on

[Pink Ranger]

Maybe JR's hyping Don Muraco's return.

Or a fake Rock, just like back in 1996 when JR boasted that "Diesel" and "Razor Ramon" were back in the WWF, and it ended up being Kane and some loser dressed up like Nash and Hall. Maybe the WWE secretly signed up Sonny Siaki, gave him a fade and groomed his eyebrows.

[Donnie Darko]

or when Juvi Juice shows up, he'll go back to the "if you SMMEEEEELLL what the Juice is cooking" gimmick

[Capt Throbberson]

God I love seeing Triple H lose

[John Constantine]

Maybe JR's hyping Don Muraco's return.

Or a fake Rock, just like back in 1996 when JR boasted that "Diesel" and "Razor Ramon" were back in the WWF, and it ended up being Kane and some loser dressed up like Nash and Hall. Maybe the WWE secretly signed up Sonny Siaki, gave him a fade and groomed his eyebrows.

hmmm....I could see that happening. After-all he is exactly like the Rock.....except he's not ;) :p


And about Juvi, I'd rather see him, Psychosis, and Super Crazy maybe team up with Eddie to form a heel group. Preferably with Eddie's old WCW music which kicked extreme amount of ass :up:

[John Constantine]

And on to Raw, I was a bit disappointed that Christian and Jericho lost, especially Jericho since he lost to Edge, who already had a ****ing title shot :rolleyes: :mad:


I thought it was also plainly obvious that Benoit was gonna be Triple H's "mystery" opponent, but was pleasantly surprised to see Trips tap out. I give the Huntster credit for that :up:


Oh, and it sounds like they might try and push Davari (sp?) as a face singles competitor near the future, which might work. Especially if he's allowed to do the Flying Carpet :)

[The Ghoul]

or when Juvi Juice shows up, he'll go back to the "if you SMMEEEEELLL what the Juice is cooking" gimmick

I thought that was classic. (Now, it's played out because many other indie wrestlers have done Rock parody gimmicks sence but Juvi was the first) I loved seeing him do Rock-esque promos in broken english. (that is kinda racist to say but you laughed too.)

I didn't have a probelm with the tournament at first but I was really bummed that Jericho lost... esspecially to Edge who has a title shot. I think what they might do though is have him lose the tournament & be calm & all like "yeah I still have another shot." Then move him to SD! to render each shot useless & revamping his insane "Why me! I deserve it." annoyance.

[The Ghoul]

Oh, and it sounds like they might try and push Davari (sp?) as a face singles competitor near the future, which might work. Especially if he's allowed to do the Flying Carpet :)

I think so too, but more or less a joke of a face. He will still come out & scream Arab obscenities. Although, instead of the fans being annoyed they laugh & cheer, mostly laugh but cheer too. but a lot more laughing than cheering.

[John Constantine]

I dunno, when Hassan accused Davari of losing the match on the PPV, he was starting to speak English.....I'm hoping they take his character seriously because, honestly, he's a pretty good wrestler and could do pretty well. Maybe he might make the move to SD during the draft? :confused: I could see him competing in the cruiserweight division.....

[The Ghoul]

I dunno, when Hassan accused Davari of losing the match on the PPV, he was starting to speak English.....I'm hoping they take his character seriously because, honestly, he's a pretty good wrestler and could do pretty well. Maybe he might make the move to SD during the draft? :confused: I could see him competing in the cruiserweight division.....

Very rarley do they have serious foreign faces. Eddie & Ray are exceptions because they had years to build, but Eddie still has a stereotype to his character. And esspecially people who just come off of having anti-American gimmicks (one of the most popular & kind of dead gimmcks) it's hard to whipe that away... If he was drafted & moved to SD! he would be under used & under appreciated just like Akio.

[John Constantine]

That's true. I'm just hoping that the WWE is considering taking the cruiserweight division seriously now, especially after signing those three CW's. Just imagine a division where Paul London, Akio, Super Crazy, Juventud, Psychosis, Davari, and a few others have full-out matches with each other :eek:


But then again, I'm thinking Davari is just gonna be another Virgil....:o :(

[JINoside]

Geez...Doesn't anybody think Sheltons hurt?. I hope hes not but i think he is. Shawn looked pretty concearned. He fell on that kick pretty badly. Somebody find out....

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Anyone else REALLY tired of Edge? Jericho deserves to be in that tournament 100x more than Edge does. After what he did to Matt Hardy I wish they'd punish the s**t out of him and make him job to everyone from Jericho to Maven.

Christian is entertaning as hell, I hope he jumps to Smackdown and becomes a legitimate main eventer.

[PyroChamber]

Did anyone think it was kinda weird that after his interview, he ran into Victoria AND LITA, and Lita just had this look on her face?

And it seemed like Shelton was a bit more heelish then Jericho was suppose to be, and I think he should have won against Edge damn 3 years since he's had a title defense.

And what exactly are they trying to do with Viscera, make him another Sexual Chocolate or something?

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Sexual Chocolate was funny s**t, I don't care what anyone says...that was comedy right there, even his music was hilarious.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

God damn seeing HHH tap tonight was one of the best things I've seen on RAW in awhile because now at least it means he's FINALLY out of the title run for at least a few weeks. Although we all know he'll probably challenge the winner to a match where he'll win and then take the #1 contender spot.

Still though, Benoit is one tough bastard.

[3dman27]

Anyone else REALLY tired of Edge? Jericho deserves to be in that tournament 100x more than Edge does. After what he did to Matt Hardy I wish they'd punish the s**t out of him and make him job to everyone from Jericho to Maven.

Christian is entertaning as hell, I hope he jumps to Smackdown and becomes a legitimate main eventer.
correction please make him job to everyone from jericho t LILIAN GARCIA

[Keyser Soze]

As a special treat for you guys, I found a list of classic quotes (thanks to www.cagematch.de) from the legend that is Kurt Angle. Some of these had me laughing for minutes. Enjoy!

"Undertaker, if that is your real name..."
- Kurt Angle

"You know... when one speaks your name very fast, it just sounds like just incredible"
- Kurt Angle to Justin Credible

"Children love me, dammit!"
- Kurt Angle

"I wasn't surprised at all. In fact, I thought, why stop there? Why not add the Big Show, or Chris Jericho, or the whole state of Nebraska for that matter? And don't you think a wrestling ring is a little old school, Lilian? Why not put the match in a shark tank, with real live sharks? Hungry sharks! And the only way to beat your opponent is to stuff him down a shark's throat, and pin the shark. Wouldn't that be a hoot?"
- Kurt Angle, reffering to the ridiculousness of his title defense becoming a triple threat against the Rock and Triple H

"Not to mention our former tag team champions lost their titles after my good friend Christian was hit in the genitals with a hockey stick by a midget! I mean enough is enough"
- Kurt Angle

"Hey, I drank milk that was a DAY past the expiration date. Now THAT is Extreme!"
- Kurt Angle

Christian: "So are you in?"
Angle: "Six man elimination table match with Booker T and The Dudleyz? You bet your sweet asses I'm in!"
Edge: "Did he just say sweet asses?"

"Triple H, you may be a great athlete, but in the Olympic Games of life, you don't even qualify"

"Maybe if you spent a little less time crying over spilt milk, and a little more time drinking it like me, you'd finally be a winner"
- to HHH

"You want me in the ring? Now I know you've been drinking!"
- to Essa Rios

"As an Olympic hero, and a representitave of all 50 states, it's no secret that I'm not a fan of the state of Texas. And I saw your little flag people, it's missing about 49 other stars. And to be honest, I'm glad I'm having my match here tonight, because tonight I can illustrate a point. Even these beer belly, bull riding, Texas yee-haws know that I have never, and will never, tap out to you."
-referring to Chris Benoit just before theit match at Wrestlemania XVII

"I'll make you tap faster than Gregory Hines on speed!"

"Rock, if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a crybaby"
- Responding to the Rock complaining about Kurt costing him the match by hitting him with a chair

"There was once a group of extraordinary, talented guys, who had a chance to make history, who had a chance to win it all. But it all got put in jeopardy due to in-fighting, back-stabbing, and lack of leadership. What was once a group who had everything became now a bunch of losers with nothing. Of course I'm talking about the 2001 Boston Red Sox. Oh it's true. It's the same as Pedro Martinez and Nomar refusing to play with their so called "injuries". This Sunday, The Alliance has a chance at winning it all, and Austin- We'd better. Because when the Boston Red Sox loses like they do every year, big deal, they always have next year to screw it up again. But there is no next year for us, there is no tomorrow"
- at the Smackdown! before Survivor Series 2001

"Guys, it's Texas, the whole state smells like this"
- to a complaining Edge and Christian

"When they submit to my Olympic wrath- there's just no better feeling"

"You do NOT boo an Olympic gold medalist! You DO NOT boo an Olympic gold medalist! I'm the best in the world! I came here for YOU! You do not boo me."
- Kurt to the audience during his first televised match vs Sean Stasiak

"First of all, I would like everyone here in Boston to know that if you follow my three "I"s-- intensity, integrity, and intelligence-- you can accomplish anything you want! You could! And if you follow my three "I"s, then maybe someday, even THIS town could win a World Series! You could!"
- Kurt gets booed nearly out of the Fleet Center

“I just want to say to everyone that, even though I suplexed an eighty-two-year-old pregnant woman, I am still a role model for children, not to mention elderly people as well. At the time, I actually thought it was Mark Henry.”

... so, tonight, I am asking you, the fans of Buffalo, to cheer for the man who brought home the Olympic gold medal!" (crowd heat) "And NOT the man who stayed out all night at a topless bar the night before he competed!" (crowd pops) "That's enough! Hey! He stayed out all night at a topless bar the night before he competed! And--" (crowd pops louder) "No! No no no no!"
- to Mark Henry before their match

"It has been brought to my attention that Sunday night, the Royal Rumble at Madison Square Garden, your Olympic hero has just been informed that he has an unnamed opponent in his match. Supposedly, with a man who is going to break my notorious undefeated streak. Now, my concern does not lie with this quote-unquote unnamed man, but that this country would be completely devastated if my streak come to an end."

“Tonight, I have decided to treat all of you, and become the next European champion. Now, I realize we’re down here in Texas, and not a lot of people here know where Europe is…”

"I realize we're in Los Angeles, a city that lacks integrity and moral value! But you would rather cheer a porn star over ME?! What is WRONG with you people?"

"Each night I come out here and offer my services to be your sports hero. But tonight, I'm not gonna do that. Instead, I would like to talk about my opponent ,Mark Henry. You see, Mark may think that we're a lot alike, because we were both Olympians. But that's where the similarity ends. As I won Olympic gold, came to the WWF, and embarked on an incredible undefeated streak that shocked the whole entire world, Mark Henry's greatest accomplishment was impregnating an 82-year-old woman. Congratulations, Mark. And although that may have required a lot of intensity-I don't even like to think about it-it definitely lacked integrity and intelligence, if you know what I mean. And while impregnating elderly women and living in sin may be acceptable to Dallas Texas, it is NOT acceptable to your Olympic champion! It is not!"

"Ever since I teamed up with Edge and Christian, your olympic hero has been noticing that he has been getting alot of extra attention from teenage girls! Oh yeah! Oh yeah! In fact - word on the street is that your olympic hero is considered to be 'all that!' It's true! It's true! Teenage girls, I have a word of warning for you - in the form of a nursery rhyme - it goes something like this: 'Don't be like the people here, shacking up with other guys! Be clean! Be pure! Be abstinent - and follow my three I's!' Thank you! And now, let me introduce you to my tag team partners, who also happen to be 'all that!' And I would like you to show them to same respect and admiration you have given me! Without further -a-dew, Edge and Christian!"

"This Stuff [Beer] Is Tasty, When Did They Start Making It?"
- Kurt Angle to The APA

"If your Olympic Hero were to use the Worm in the 1996 olympic games, it would be so embarassing to all the other atheletes - and our country, mind you- that the USA would have finished behind Guam."
- Kurt Angle

"I became the first ever Euro-continental champion in WWF history. Well, besides D-Lo Brown, but he doesn't count."
- Kurt Angle

"Triple H? Triple H? Why don't you introduce someone who actually has the decency to show up on time?"
- Kurt Angle to The Coach, Raw 1/07/02

Kurt Angle: "And who's the guy that brings happiness and joy to children all over the world every single day?"
Christian: "Kurt Angle."
Kurt Angle: "Exactly."
-- Raw 1/07/02

"I'm not gonna let a guy like Triple H, a guy that tore his quadricep... I mean he was out for eight months! I tear my quadricep all the time! I tore it this morning, I'm fine, I'm here, I'm jumpin' around."
- Kurt Angle, Raw 1/07/02

"Your Olympic Hero is scheduled to wrestle in a match against the man they call the 'Big Red Retard'. And not that I have anything against retarded people, because I don't. As a matter of fact, I have a lot of retarded fans out there that admire and respect your Olympic Champion."
- Kurt Angle

"Canada is lacking two things. It's true. Don't make me say it again. The first is Olympic Heroes [...] The second thing that Canada is lacking is Memorial Day, which is today by the way, where we in the States celebrate our war heroes by having barbeques . And I realize here in Canada you can't have barbeques because you'd probably be attacked by a moose, or caribou, or even a grizzly."
- Kurt Angle

"I have a little nursery rhyme for all you children out there, something even the Godfather can understand. 'You can prance and you can dance, but when it comes to relations, keep it in your pants.'"
- Kurt Angle 2001

"How do I feel? I'll tell you how I feel: Like a million dollars, lady! You know, I don't particularly care for the tone in which you asked the question. You know, Florida's not too far from the Mexican border, Lillian Garcia. If you don't change your attitude, then all I need to do is make one phone call to the INS, then it's 'Lillian Gar - See Ya Later'! Comprende?"
- Kurt Angle to Lillian Garcia (who's from Spain, by the way), WWF Heat 11/19/00

Triple H: "Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley, quite frankly, could be the perfect woman. But yet, you stand in front of her and look at her every week and say 'I just wanna be her...friend.' Now what kind of a guy stands in front of a hot woman and just wants to be her friend?"
Kurt Angle: "What are you tryin' to say?"
Triple H: "I mean, you'd like to be friends with Steph. You'd like to hang out with Steph...you'd like to, maybe, go shopping for drapes with Steph. Hey, Kurt, look - don't get upset, okay? There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. This is the year 2000 - alternative lifestyles are perfectly acceptable in this day and age! Kurt, if you're batting off the other side of the plate from the rest of us, that's okay! And I understand - Kurt, I can understand you're upset right now, okay? Maybe national television wasn't a good place for me to call you out on this, but it explains a lot, Kurt - all the looks ya been givin' me and the little smirks? I mean, who are you trying to get close to here?"
Kurt Angle: And Hunter, try to go a week without accidentally hitting your wife, ok?
Triple H: Ok. Try to go a match without hitting on me, ok?

Spike: "I said, leave my girlfriend alone!!"
Angle: "What is this?? Saved By The Bell??"
- Smackdown!, May 24. 2001

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's a loud mouth Canadian with long blonde hair who dresses like a rock star....well except for you, you're cool.
- Kurt to Y2J about Edge

"I just got pinned by a freakin' 12 year old!"
- Kurt Angle, after losing to Rey Mysterio (Smackdown!, 8/8/02)

I'll make that whole childhood burny thing seem like a papercut.
- Kurt Angle about Kane

I don't have a problem with gays. In fact, gay people love me. Everybody loves me. I'm freakin adorable.
-Kurt Angle

Angle: "I was in the Cub Scouts, the Webelos, Boy Scouts, I did em all."
Austin: "What do you mean you did em all?"

[trombonemaestro]

And about Juvi, I'd rather see him, Psychosis, and Super Crazy maybe team up with Eddie to form a heel group. Preferably with Eddie's old WCW music which kicked extreme amount of ass :up:

Maybe they'll bring back the LwO

[kane9321]

lol

[Go Web Go!]

"Maybe if you spent a little less time crying over spilt milk, and a little more time drinking it like me, you'd finally be a winner"
- to HHH

Good stuff. Gotta love Kurt...

[John Constantine]

Did anyone think it was kinda weird that after his interview, he ran into Victoria AND LITA, and Lita just had this look on her face?

And it seemed like Shelton was a bit more heelish then Jericho was suppose to be, and I think he should have won against Edge damn 3 years since he's had a title defense.

And what exactly are they trying to do with Viscera, make him another Sexual Chocolate or something?

I hope so. And hopefully it's done right this time. None of that crap like being a sex addict or sleeping with Mae Young....

[kane9321]

lords of pain.net just said..The wwe just fired torrie wilson due to a contract dispute..sweet crap!

[3dman27]

are you sure about that?

[Caliber]

What happened on Raw? I missed but I'm glad Beniot won the last man standing match.

[PyroChamber]

Here's something interesting I found.

Source: PWInsider.com

Sources are reporting that there have been several meetings between Women’s Extreme Wrestling, which is headed by former ECW management members Dan Kowal and Steve Karel and Spike TV. The promotion is based in the Pennsylvania and Delaware area and they also hold events at Florida.

Women’s Extreme Wrestling regularly run taped PPV events, which at times feature porn scenes into the show. A more under control version of the show which doesn’t include the porn segments, have nationally been released by retail markets.

[trombonemaestro]

ps- I am loving seeing the Hurricane with gold again

though sadly, I don't think it will last, some upcoming house shows have Rosey and Jamaal listed in tag team matches.

[kane9321]

are you sure about that?


yes,i hope it isnt true!

[3dman27]

yes,i hope it isnt true!
i was at wwe.com and they still have torries bio and pics up in fact they're using her to promote their "viva las divas magazine and dvd

[kane9321]

go to lords of pain...that's where it said it!

[Sabretooth]

I thought that was classic. (Now, it's played out because many other indie wrestlers have done Rock parody gimmicks sence but Juvi was the first) I loved seeing him do Rock-esque promos in broken english. (that is kinda racist to say but you laughed too.)

I didn't have a probelm with the tournament at first but I was really bummed that Jericho lost... esspecially to Edge who has a title shot. I think what they might do though is have him lose the tournament & be calm & all like "yeah I still have another shot." Then move him to SD! to render each shot useless & revamping his insane "Why me! I deserve it." annoyance.
I really hope they don't do that.Because that would make the Money In the Bank thing at WM 21 useless,because someone more deserving of the title could've won.

[Spider-Nerd]

go to lords of pain...that's where it said it!
wait for metlzer, wrestleview or 1wrestling.com to break the story.

[John Constantine]

It's not even on the lords of pain website....

[3dman27]

there was a line about that last week but it lead to an ad page

[John Constantine]

It's probably one of those BS rumors. There hasn't been news about it anywhere....:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

wow im way behind havent even seen Raw yet,Backlash was decent,Hogan/HBK was pure entertainment and Shelton/Y2J put the best match of the show on,Last man standing was decent and The world title match surpassed my expectations,it was clear Batista/HHH had been working a lot of house shows together as the match flowed well yet i noticed the crowd seemed to be Booing Batista.Christian dropped another great promo and is clearly gonna feud with Cena on SD which should be good for both guys:up: Ive said it before but by the end of this year CC and Shelton should be wearing the straps.Benjamin is the most gifted athlete ive seen since HBK and pulls of things even my jaded eyes have never seen before:eek:

[Sabretooth]

I can't believe this.Now they're about to rub Matt's deal in his face.

RAW Backstage News, Lita/Edge Storyline Together?; Major News
By Ryan Clark

05/04/2005 - With Vince McMahon back at TV after recovering from his injury, the backstage area at Raw on Monday was less relaxed and more intense than previous weeks.

Almost everyone internally was pleased with Mondays Raw show, which was wrestling focused. Morale overall is high, with many thinking that business is finally beginning to rise, with an excellent PPV buyrate for WrestleMania, a sold out, high grossing European tour and steady TV ratings.

Lita is set to turn heel on Kane, perhaps as early as next week. Believe it or not folks, there is talk of pairing Lita and Edge together, thus the setup this past week on RAW.

Trish Stratus is off TV and the road for the forseeable future due to a severe back injury. I am unsure if she requires surgery or if it is merely a case of rest and physiotherapy.

As a part of the draft, which is set to take place sometime towards the end of this month, Christian is heading to Smackdown and Kurt Angle is heading to Raw.

[Twitch]

Yeah Baby Chistian going to smackdown to beat that Alley G ripoff

[Go Web Go!]

I hope those aren't the biggest moves that are going to be made during the Draft. Those are some nice changes, but hopefully not the last of them...

[Spider-Fan]

Does anyone else think Batista is a terrible champion. He has no charisma, and most of his matches suck. I am personally fond of JBL. He is funny, and the way his matches end are great (like No Way Out, classic.) His Wrestlemania 21 match was a suckfest though. It was 9 minutes long, and Cena only hit him with like 6 moves. It was bad. I am not too fond of Cena, but at least he has charsima. I don't see what Batista's draw is.

[Go Web Go!]

He's big...It's no secret that Vince likes those big boys...

[Spider-Fan]

Thats it. Kane is big, and far more entertaining. Give him the title. The only reason he is popular is because he left Evolution. That is it.

[John Constantine]

I can't believe this.Now they're about to rub Matt's deal in his face.

RAW Backstage News, Lita/Edge Storyline Together?; Major News
By Ryan Clark

05/04/2005 - With Vince McMahon back at TV after recovering from his injury, the backstage area at Raw on Monday was less relaxed and more intense than previous weeks.

Almost everyone internally was pleased with Mondays Raw show, which was wrestling focused. Morale overall is high, with many thinking that business is finally beginning to rise, with an excellent PPV buyrate for WrestleMania, a sold out, high grossing European tour and steady TV ratings.

Lita is set to turn heel on Kane, perhaps as early as next week. Believe it or not folks, there is talk of pairing Lita and Edge together, thus the setup this past week on RAW.

Trish Stratus is off TV and the road for the forseeable future due to a severe back injury. I am unsure if she requires surgery or if it is merely a case of rest and physiotherapy.

As a part of the draft, which is set to take place sometime towards the end of this month, Christian is heading to Smackdown and Kurt Angle is heading to Raw.


Not surprised there. I had a feeling they would try and pull an angle like that....it seems like they're trying to pull a Vince McMahon circa 1998.

You never know, portraying a heel Edge and Lita with Edge playing a low-down dirtbag (something that's not really a stretch for him ;) :p ) could help cement him as a heel main-eventer :up:

[John Constantine]

Does anyone else think Batista is a terrible champion. He has no charisma, and most of his matches suck. I am personally fond of JBL. He is funny, and the way his matches end are great (like No Way Out, classic.) His Wrestlemania 21 match was a suckfest though. It was 9 minutes long, and Cena only hit him with like 6 moves. It was bad. I am not too fond of Cena, but at least he has charsima. I don't see what Batista's draw is.

The big monster face who comes in and dispatches of his opponents in 5 minutes, kinda like Bill Goldberg, I guess :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Thats it. Kane is big, and far more entertaining. Give him the title. The only reason he is popular is because he left Evolution. That is it.

to be honest the only time ive found kane interesting was when he first came in as Takers brother and when he first took the mask off.To me he is just another big lug and a poor mans undertaker,at least Batista looks good doing his limited arsenal of moves.Personally i'd like to see pushes for guys who have actual talent like Sheltom,Y2J and Christian,and please someone end the masterlock challenge:mad:

[Spider-Fan]

Christian has been shortchanged for a while. The Masterpiece needs to have some matches, as he is just annoying right now.

[Spider-Fan]

The big monster face who comes in and dispatches of his opponents in 5 minutes, kinda like Bill Goldberg, I guess :confused:

Goldberg looked 100 times better at doing that than Batista (at least in WCW.)

[John Constantine]

Goldberg looked 100 times better at doing that than Batista (at least in WCW.)

But you can see what the WWE is trying to do though. Goldberg's spear = Batista's spinebuster, Jackhammer = Batista Bomb.

Plus, it's good to see someone else as the champion, I just wish he'd actually fight someone other than Triple H in a PPV :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

But you can see what the WWE is trying to do though. Goldberg's spear = Batista's spinebuster, Jackhammer = Batista Bomb.

Plus, it's good to see someone else as the champion, I just wish he'd actually fight someone other than Triple H in a PPV :mad:

thats the thing they don't think he can draw without a name

[Spider-Fan]

Yes, but I'd rather not have a champion who isn't entertaining. I want to see Triple H out of the picture for a while, but I want a better champion.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: The Torch

The general feeling among many within WWE at this time towards both John Cena and Batista as the World Champions for each respective brand is that they should not be measured or compared against the likes of Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels when they were all top babyface champions at one point in their careers. Vince McMahon has reportedly made it clear to many critics that the reason Cena and Batista are in the positions they are right now is because of a lack of fresher, more "ready options" in his opinion. McMahon has taken the approach that it's expected that both will make mistakes along the way and probably not get pops that Steve Austin or The Rock got at their peaks (although I'm sure some would argue that point given the large amount of reaction Cena is getting every week on SmackDown, especially in Birmingham last week).

At this point, both Cena and Batista are being labeled by those in the company as "projects" who have some weaknesses that were expected, but with some work and tutoring they could eventually become reliable stars. "Neither of them is better than mid-carders by the standards of 15 or 20 years ago, but they have varying levels of charisma and marketable looks," said one WWE source. When it comes to talking on the mic, Cena is obviously considered the stronger of the two. Plus, with youth on Cena's side, there will be much more patience for him. Batista on the other hand is considered much weaker on the mic, but more over at this time as a top draw for the company. Despite this taking place, one top WWE source is disagreeing with the approach adding, "How many examples are there of more seasoned wrestlers who are more ready for this kind of push who have been saddled with lame comedy acts which mean nothing, while Batista is being pushed into this top spot prematurely.

[John Constantine]

thats the thing they don't think he can draw without a name

They're not really gonna know that until they try though. That's really the only problem I have with Triple H. He's been in the damn spotlight on Raw since the rosters broke. It's always been about him, even when he doesn't have the title. When it was given to Goldberg, Benoit, or Orton, it wasn't about those guys having a title reign, the show revolved around Triple H not having the title and his attempts to regain it.


Just for once I would love to see Batista vs Edge or Shawn or anybody headline a PPV.....

[John Constantine]

Yes, but I'd rather not have a champion who isn't entertaining. I want to see Triple H out of the picture for a while, but I want a better champion.

Just give it a bit. It took JBL a while to find his groove as a main event champion as well remember.....

[Spider-Fan]

thats the thing they don't think he can draw without a name

Watch, Triple H will make it a triple threat match at the next RAW PPV.