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Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 08:31 AM

Whitmer's Long Road Back
Sunday, October 22, 2006

Necro Butcher tore his flesh with barbed wire. Super Dragon drove him through a table. Samoa Joe kicked him point blank in the head. Each time, BJ Whitmer rebounded and was back fighting on the next show. Then something happened that BJ couldn't comeback from and it was at the hands of none other than Jimmy Jacobs.

Jacobs, driven by his desire to win the love of his manager Lacey, snapped Whitmer's already injured ankle on August 26th in Chicago. Whitmer had battled through the painful injury since March 30th, when he and Jacobs took that infamous plunge off the top turnbuckle to the floor. Whitmer proved his toughness by wrestling with the injury, but when Jacobs jumped off the top rope onto a chair that was wrapped around Whitmer's ankle, surgery was the only option.

"I have to admit that I worked through a lot of pain during the CZW feud," Whitmer said. "It was tough, but I was able to play with pain. There was no coming back from what Jimmy did to me in Chicago. I felt the tendons snap as soon as he landed. I knew I was in trouble."

Whitmer underwent ankle surgery just a few days later. Since that time, Whitmer has gone through painful rehab. He hopes to return to the ring in November, ahead of his scheduled recovery time. Whitmer has already made it clear that he has one target in mind and that is Jimmy Jacobs.

"If you saw "Destiny" you know what I said to Christopher Daniels," Whitmer said. "I told him that I didn't know the meaning of hate until I was against the CZW wrestlers. I'll tell you one thing though, the CZW wrestlers never cost me a payday. They never took professional wrestling away from me. I don't know what was worse - the physical pain of recovering from this injury or the mental anguish of missing ROH shows. It's all been bottled up inside me and it's going to explode when I finally get my hands on Jimmy Jacobs."

Whitmer has already tried to get his hands on Jacobs at the last events. He has promised to be Jacobs' shadow. However, on both nights Jacobs refused to back down from Whitmer. It is obvious that Jacobs is ready for the fight. Whitmer picked Jacobs as his tag team partner in 2005 because he felt Jacobs had an untapped toughness. Now Whitmer is experiencing that toughness first hand.

"I'm not afraid of BJ Whitmer," Jacobs said, "because I am fueled by the power of love. If Lacey wants BJ Whitmer eliminated, I'll do it to prove to her how much I love her. I don't care how big BJ is or how much pain he can withstand, because with love as the wind in my sails there is nothing that I'm not capable of. He's already powerbombed me off the top rope to the floor in Manhattan. We both came within an inch of our lives in Detroit. I can survive whatever BJ tries to dish out because love is in my heart."

"I just want BJ Whitmer knocked out of ROH," Lacey screeched. "You almost did good Jimmy, but as usual it was not enough. Now BJ is coming back and I want him crippled. He had a chance to be a part of Lacey's Angels and he walked away. Now he needs to made an example of."

Whitmer and Jacobs will be in the same buildings this weekend in Dayton and Chicago. Whitmer is still not close to 100%, but the adrenaline is sure to be pumping when he sees Jacobs in the ring. Each Whitmer vs. Jacobs encounter has been marked by violence and insanity. There is no telling what these two will do to each other next.Goddamn, I love this feud.

Hunter Rider

10-29-2006, 08:49 AM

No problem. :up:

I'm guessing to set up the Aries/Strong vs. Daniels/Sydal match, which will probably be for number one contendership, since Aries and Strong were that, and Daniels got the win on him. :huh:

That I don't get. Shingo isn't that good at all IMO, but they might be setting up for a Shingo title shot, which I hope happens so Dragon can just kill him.

I'm guessing Jim was there because he was pissed at Joe for teaming with Cide, and since the match was No DQ, Joe used the belt to choke out Dragon. :huh:

Aries losing to roboto just makes me sad:csad:

Is shingo working the little dumbbell gimmick in ROH ?

The Moon Knight

10-29-2006, 09:36 AM

I didn't really bother with SD! this week. I've been watching Raw and ECW (which is doing well IMO, watching CM Punk is great), but I don't know...with SD!, it always feels like something is missing from it.

Lobo

10-29-2006, 09:46 AM

http://www.freewebs.com/tombstonetapes/Pictures/Chris%20Jericho.jpg

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 09:52 AM

Lots of CM Punk related stuff worth posting this week, such as the cover of the new issue of Pro Wrestling Illustrated:

http://pwi-online.com/art/PWI9206s.jpg

C.M. PUNK
The “New ECW” Wrestler Even The “Old ECW” Fans Won’t Boo

By Al Alven

Things rarely pan out exactly as they are expected to in the wrestling world. There are just too many variables, too many combustible elements present in most situations. These factors rarely fail to foil even the best-laid plans in an industry where the unpredictable reigns supreme.

And, yet, there was C.M. Punk, basking in the glow of his ECW television debut victory over Justin Credible. There were the fans in the revered Hammerstein Ballroom, “underground” wrestling’s hallowed Mecca, cheering on and accepting the brash youngster as if he were some sort of long-awaited savior.

There it was, the whole scene, playing out just as so many fans and industry experts predicted it would for years. No unexpected hitches, no disappointment or feeling of under-whelming displeasure after all the hype.

Punk, the independent wrestling icon, had finally arrived in the “big time.” Although, this really wasn’t the “big time”; it was ECW. Then again, this wasn’t really even “ECW,” but, rather, the newly envisioned version of the long-defunct cult organization, now under the banner of Vince McMahon’s wrestling empire.

Surely, the ECW we know today has struggled to find its identity since its inception. But, on this night, in the midst of Punk’s introduction to a national TV audience, the elements that combined to produce that special magic upon which the original promotion thrived were all present.

“I’m telling ya, that building came alive when he came through the curtain,” explained a clearly astonished Sandman, one of ECW’s founding fathers. “I thought right away, ‘This guy’s something special.’ The whole building could feel it.” Sandman continued, “With his charisma, his energy, and presence, this kid would have fit right in with us back in the ’90s. He looks like he was born to be in ECW, and the fans responded to him like he’s been here for years … like he was a favorite son.”

And therein lies the key to Punk’s successful debut, as well as his unlimited future in ECW and beyond. Those who have attained the most success in this business all had at least one thing in common: the ability to connect to and form some sort of lasting emotional bond with the fans.

While Punk has light years to go before he can even begin to be compared to the Hogans, Flairs, Rocks, and Austins of the trade on this front, it must be noted that perhaps no competitor in recent memory has built up a cult following so impressive in such a short amount of time as the Chicago native.

“In the weeks leading up to my debut, I told the fans that my only addiction was competition,” he explained. “Those who have followed my career know that I live the drug-free, alcohol-free lifestyle and pride myself on my inner discipline and self-worth. Those who are just finding out about me will learn this lesson in due time, while those detractors who continue to doubt me will live to regret their underestimations.”

The New York crowd at the Hammerstein Ballroom on the night of Punk’s debut represented as “smart” an audience as you are ever likely to see on a McMahon-produced program. These are the fans that have, by and large, all but completely rejected the “new” ECW and most everything it stands for.

Many are, in fact, highly dedicated fans of the “old” ECW, and have yet to (and likely never will) warm up to the likes of The Big Show, Mike Knox, Test, “Vampire” Kevin Thorn, and the vast majority of the sports entertainment-style characters who have surfaced since the brand’s debut on the Sci-Fi Channel back in June.

These fans are known for passionately following the inner workings of the business via the Internet. They can be ultra-picky, fickle, and extremely judgmental by nature. But they instantly took to Punk like he was Chris Benoit with sprinkles on top. Why?

For starters, Punk represents something different and exciting. His cocky persona and holier-than-thou “Straight Edge” mantra are unique to him, and instantly set him apart from the pack. His style is also a distinctive trademark; a blend of technical, submission-based wrestling with mixed martial arts influences.

Then, there is the reputation that precedes Punk wherever he goes—that of a top in-ring talent whose exploits in the indy world have already taken on near-legendary status in some circles: marathon matches with Chris Hero in various companies and areas; the long, bloody feud with Raven that truly put his name on the map in Ring of Honor; a trilogy of epic ROH title matches against Samoa Joe that helped redefine not only the careers of both men, but the promotion itself; his climactic win over Austin Aries for said championship last summer; and so many other memories.

“C.M. Punk is for real,” noted Tommy Dreamer, another longstanding hardcore icon. “He is a breath of fresh air, if you ask me, an honest character with a great deal of emotional appeal. And he happens to be a tremendous athlete and a hell of a wrestler to boot.

“I watched him on the indy scene for years, and he just continued to get better and better. He’s the kind of guy people want to pay to see because he draws you into his world. Trust me, you will either love or hate him when all is said and done, and that’s what it’s all about.”

The ECW production crew certainly paid attention to the reaction Punk received upon his debut. If you looked carefully, you would have noticed that his image was all over the program’s opening montage the following Tuesday night.

Punk did not wrestle on the program, which emanated from Nashville, but cut an in-ring promo where he thanked the fans for welcoming him into the “ECW family.” He received a very impressive reception, and was also greeted by a throng of supportive signs and banners in the audience.

“That right there was proof that the fans are latching on to this guy, and quickly,” said The Sandman. “Like I said, this kid really seems to have something special, and he seems genuinely honored to be part of the new ECW tradition.

“He’s obviously coming in here with a reputation and great deal of expectations, but he looks like the real deal to me. I’m looking forward to testing him myself and seeing how he does against the toughest, most hardcore roster in wrestling today.”

He’ll certainly have the fans behind him when it happens.

The Moon Knight

10-29-2006, 09:53 AM

Anyone know where I can get some good Mickie pictures? Yes, I've seen her nude ones, but I'm talking about recent pictures.

Sabretooth

10-29-2006, 11:17 AM

I'm glad Punk is getting some attention. I was worried for a while when all the big guns (Stephanie,HBK,and Triple H) started hating him.

The Sage

10-29-2006, 11:32 AM

Why do they hate him anyway?

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 11:38 AM

I think Steph is the only one who does, and the HHH and HBK stuff is just rumours. Steph hates him because he is a very over indy guy, a smark darling who uses lots of Japanese moves and used to work a very indy style. Also, Paul Heyman is absolutely in love with Punk, and Steph hates Heyman, therefore hating Punk by association. Punk seems to have adapted and changed his style to please the higher ups, so I don't think that even Steph has issues with him anymore, because he's marketable and has tons of charisma with a unique look to boot. Supposedly VKM himself gave Punk a pat on the back after Punk's debut match and told him that he did good, but I doubt that actually happened.

Sabretooth

10-29-2006, 11:43 AM

Well,I remember in an interview Punk called himself ''the Triple H of OVW'' since he had alot of heat on him at that time (though I forget why) and it wasn't until after that rumors of HBK and HHH hating him came up.

Free Web Conn

10-29-2006, 11:54 AM

I think The WWE made a mistake releasing Gunner Scott(Brent Albright) they could of put him in ECW and had him fued with CM Punk as they did in OVW.

NDX

10-29-2006, 12:13 PM

Punk is getting all the credit he deserves. And with good reason. He's amazing in the ring, and adapting well, albeit a bit sloppily, to the WWE style. He's also a character fans can either get behind or easily hate. He's ideal.

And when the time comes, he will be the next big star WWE is looking for, and ECW is the right place to spotlight him until.

As to why it took a while for Punk to come up, it also had to do with his look, all his tattoos. He even made a the remark that they don't wash off, they're there for good. Now with ECW and him making a impact, it looks like the ink won't be a hinderance, but rather a selling point now.

Just a note, looks like WWE plans on keeping Sandman and Balls Mahoney around, as WWE just released a Balls Mahoney t-shirt (saw it advertised in the catalogue they shove down your throat in their magazines).

American_Hobo

10-29-2006, 01:48 PM

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/3562918

well this' bad..
mysterio might be gone forever

The Sage

10-29-2006, 01:52 PM

Nah, I think it's his last appearance before his knee surgery.

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 01:52 PM

Nah, that's all kayfabed. You can tell because it makes reference to storyline relationships as opposed to his real life relationships with Vickie and Chavo. I think if and when Rey returns, he should go to Raw, because he has done everything on SD, and basically represented the brand for his entire career with WWE so far.

The Sage

10-29-2006, 01:56 PM

True. Rey has been on Smackdown since the brand split began. Him going to RAW would be quite the fresh breath of air. Would he get the main-event treatment though?

NDX

10-29-2006, 01:59 PM

Mysterio on RAW could produce some much needed different feuds. Plus I've been wanting to see him wrestle Michaels, Benjamin, and even Jeff Hardy now.

American_Hobo

10-29-2006, 02:11 PM

RAw already have lots of entertaining wrestlers like edge, tripleh, hbk, ric flair and mcmahons..

now Smackdown seriously needs some more talents...
beside, i miss jbl as being heel

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 02:17 PM

Smackdown has the most talent in the company, by far.

Regal, Benoit, Finlay, London & Kendrick, Hardy, Helms, Taker, Bookah, Kennedy (although most people would disagree) etc. are part of what make SD the best wrestling show on television.

American_Hobo

10-29-2006, 02:22 PM

you're right about that but that wasnt my point..

im saying Raw got all the famous ones like dx,edge,vince and shane mcmahon, and john cena

beside,Raw also has higher ratings than smackdown..

Eric Draven

10-29-2006, 02:36 PM

I've heard that one of the terms Brown is giving WWE is that if he signs, he doesn't have to go through developmental territories.

Kind of like the deal Harry Smith got? :o

Eric Draven

10-29-2006, 02:38 PM

you're right about that but that wasnt my point..

im saying Raw got all the famous ones like dx,edge,vince and shane mcmahon, and john cena

beside,Raw also has higher ratings than smackdown..

Ratings don't necessarily mean the quality of the show is better though. SD is taped so people know what's going to happen beforehand unlike Raw. Also Raw is on a Monday night, SD is on a Friday night. Who would really stick around to watch a wrestling show on a Friday night?

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 02:39 PM

Kind of like the deal Harry Smith got? :oActually, I heard somewhere that Harry was taken off the house show circuit so that he could rest, as he has been officially called up. This was kind of confirmed when WWE.com posted an interview with Smith a few days ago. It's still there, I think. So if Monty signs, he should start the house show circuit soon.

The Moon Knight

10-29-2006, 02:44 PM

NDX

10-29-2006, 03:42 PM

Ratings don't necessarily mean the quality of the show is better though. SD is taped so people know what's going to happen beforehand unlike Raw. Also Raw is on a Monday night, SD is on a Friday night. Who would really stick around to watch a wrestling show on a Friday night?

Unfortunately, I. :(

Lobo

10-29-2006, 06:22 PM

and me :(

Hunter Rider

10-29-2006, 08:39 PM

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/dismembered

Dismembered in the Chamber
By Craig Tello
October 29, 2006

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/309846/369890/3529978/ECW_DecDis.jpgAt an ECW (http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/) show today in Milwaukee, Wis., ECW’s “Messiah” Paul Heyman declared that Rob Van Dam will, in fact, receive his ECW World Title opportunity at December to Dismember. However, Heyman also made the monumental announcement that RVD’s title match will take place in the first-ever Extreme Elimination Chamber.
RVD earned his chance at the championship last week in a Ladder Match and, as announced on ECW.com earlier this week, Van Dam selected ECW’s next pay-per-view on Dec. 3 as the setting for his title opportunity. However, the stipulations for that contest fall under Heyman’s own judgment.
Thus, ECW World Champion Big Show will defend his gold against five other Extremists within the lethal chamber structure. In addition to the Extreme Giant and RVD, the remaining four participants will be determined through a series of qualifying matches that will take place over the next few weeks – the first of which can be seen Tuesday night on ECW on Sci Fi.
The only thing more dangerous than the chamber itself will be the throng of hardcore competitors enclosed in its massive walls. Who will qualify for this unprecedented encounter? Exactly what awaits RVD, Big Show and the other Extremists at December to Dismember?
Tune in to ECW on Sci Fi to learn more about this unique and extreme event and be sure to catch December to Dismember on Dec. 3 on pay-per-view.

NDX

10-29-2006, 08:48 PM

I can't get interested in an "Extreme" Elimination Chamber match, not yet at least.

- At tonight's Smackdown/ECW TV tapings in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, current Deep South Diva Angel Williams is scheduled to make her debut for the company.

Williams was originally supposed to have debuted much earlier than tonight, as she was scheduled to be part of the whole JBL/Jillian Hall/Boogeyman angle several months back. Unfortunatly, she was injured around that time and was never brought up to the main roster.

Word going around the backstage area is that Williams will be working as a heel manager but there is no indication as of yet on who she will manage.

- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Lita (real name Amy Dumas) will be finishing up with WWE sometime around Survivor Series.

She is wanting to pursue local acting in Atlanta and has some gigs lined up already such as plays and independent film roles. Her main interest is said to be doing theater.

People in the company have said that they wouldn’t be surprised if Lita showed up in TNA at some point due to the lighter work schedule.

Credit: PWInsider.com

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 08:53 PM

I can. Elimination Chambers are always at the very least fun matches, and the match could consistPunk, RVD, Show, Sabu, Test, and Dreamer. I would definitely watch that.

The Moon Knight

10-29-2006, 08:55 PM

Lita is leaving WWE?

enterthemadness

10-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Lita is leaving WWE?

For an acting career...:yay: like she can act in anything other than a _____. :wow::yay: that is right kids...it is time to play

Guess the word!

NDX

10-29-2006, 09:00 PM

I can. Elimination Chambers are always at the very least fun matches, and the match could consistPunk, RVD, Show, Sabu, Test, and Dreamer. I would definitely watch that.

I can get into the idea of a 6 man for the title. And as long as Dreamer and Sabu or Sandman is in it, I'll be happy. But that damn EC structure just never sat well with me. Never liked the overall feel of it. I like the concept, but the chamber itself bothers me.

Sarge 2.0

10-29-2006, 09:09 PM

Sabretooth

10-29-2006, 09:13 PM

Which reminds me,whatever happened to bringing in SD! and Raw guys who didn't get any screentime? I was expecting to the likes of Conway,Matt Hardy,etc. And all we got were the Bashams. And Steven Richards.

Hunter Rider

10-29-2006, 09:15 PM

I like the chamber...the problem is with six guys in one match, what will the rest of the card look like? The roster is way too thin and the PPV is way too soon for a really good, well developed card to happen...

As i said over at DVDR they are putting all their eggs in one basket hoping to draw,the PPV was never gonna draw with Show vs RVD so they have went for this,my guess is the rest of the card will look an episode of HEAT

I agree on your selections except i think it will be Sandman and not Dreamer in the EC

Hunter Rider

10-29-2006, 09:28 PM

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5530/2006102image9kristallu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=)

Lobo

10-29-2006, 09:31 PM

good god :eek:

SLYspyder

10-29-2006, 09:59 PM

punk need to work out more, he's not as toned as he could be.

Lobo

10-29-2006, 10:06 PM

when the Hardy/Helms feud is over whats next for them?

TheVileOne

10-29-2006, 10:32 PM

I wanted to see a Hardy/Benoit feud. That won't happen since they are doing retarded crap like Chavo/Benoit.

NOAH 10/26 Budokan show results:

NOAH, 10/29/06 (NTV/G+)
Tokyo Nippon Budokan
15,000 Fans - Super No Vacancy

1. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Tsutomu Hirayanagi beat Mitsuo Momota & Atsushi Aoki (9:46) when Kikuchi used a backslide on Momota.
2. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & SUWA beat Ricky Marvin & Taiji Ishimori (10:33) when SUWA used the FFF on Ishimori.
3. Tamon Honda & Shuhei Taniguchi beat Scorpio & Murat Bosporus (12:10) when Honda used the Dead End on Bosporus.
4. Doug Williams, Nigel McGuinness & Ares beat Masao Inoue, Kishin Kawabata & Ippei Ota (16:27) when Ares used the Tiger Driver on Ota.
5. Akira Taue & Kentaro Shiga beat Akitoshi Saito & Go Shiosaki (11:43) when Shiga used a cradle on Shiosaki.
6. Takeshi Morishima & Mohammed Yone beat Jun Akiyama & Makoto Hashi (14:38) when Yone used a diving guillotine legdrop on Hashi.
7. Yoshihiro Takayama, Takuma Sano & Takashi Sugiura beat Mitsuharu Misawa, Yoshinari Ogawa & Kotaro Suzuki (25:57) when Sano used a Northern Light Bomb on Suzuki.
8. GHC Heavyweight Title: Naomichi Marufuji © beat KENTA (35:34). (2nd defense)

Marufuji defeated KENTA in judging from the pictures I've seen one of the most sickest bump-taking matches ever.

I bet after it was over both guys needed life-size ice-paks for their necks. Holy ****.

Mal'Akai

10-29-2006, 10:37 PM

SmackDown! either needs to drop the Cruiserweight title or revive the division. Someone needs to take the belt away from Booker as well. His King Booker gimick was old about five minutes after it started. Will be great to see Kane and the Undertaker back together next week. Lashley needs a bigger push. Give Finley and Regal the boot. SmackDown! should be the more fast paced, high action show, let Raw! be the drama show, and ECW can just be sick violence. Sorry for being so longwinded, but I just found this thread.

TheVileOne

10-29-2006, 10:51 PM

King Booker is a good heel champion.

And since WWE will never push Benoit to the top again, there's no one else on Smackdown good enough to take the world title or carry the ball right now.

enterthemadness

10-29-2006, 10:59 PM

King Booker is a good heel champion.

And since WWE will never push Benoit to the top again, there's no one else on Smackdown good enough to take the world title or carry the ball right now.
1. WWE is just stupid.

2.

Beniot

Go To

Nothing here king of fool

TNA. You will be NWA Champ in no time.

NDX

10-29-2006, 11:04 PM

punk need to work out more, he's not as toned as he could be.

Oh he could stay the way he is an rely on his in ring work and promos to get him over than muscles. Not liked you'd see them well with all the ink he sports.

Give Finley and Regal the boot.
No. Finlay and Regal as some of the best workers on the program, along with Benoit, and can really help teach younger wrestlers how to work. Lashley would still look overly green in his matches were it not for his feud with Finlay helping him open up. Lashley progressed faster than anticipated with Finlay working those matches with him.

TheVileOne

10-29-2006, 11:24 PM

I don't see why Punk has to be ripped to the gills.

I think Benoit is just going to finish his career in WWE.

fido

10-29-2006, 11:52 PM

i agree all of you. :dew:

Hunter Rider

10-30-2006, 06:06 AM

Since NDX has covered everything i was gonna say here's some spoilers for ECW and SD this coming week

ECW

Much of the camera-side seats for SmackDown! are empty and most of the upper deck is tarped off except for the ones the camera is facing. I was at Raw here in April and every seat in the joint was sold out.

Anyhow, on to the results.
Dark match
Gymini w/Angel def. Funaki and Scotty 2 Hotty
I had seen Angel was debuting before heading to the show and I must say, she is smokin'. Gymin dominated and Scotty didn't even get the worm off.

ECW starts
Tazz comes out to a pretty big pop from the Milwaukee crowd.
ECW starts with Paul Heyman addressing the crowd on the video screen regard RVD winning the ladder match to get a shot at the ECW title at December to Dismember. He then breaks us the news that he will have to compete against four other guys, plus Big Show in an "Extreme Elimination Chamber" match at the PPV.

**Keep an eye on the Gorila they show throughout the show behind Tazz and Cole, he will come into play later.

That leads us into the first match of the night, a qualifying match for the EEC.
Sabu def. Kevin Thorn in rather quick fashion. Nothing spectacular, but Sabu got the job done.

Davari with The Great Kahli def. Shannon Moore
It wasn't really clear if Kahli was fighting this one or note since he and Moore had a stare down before the match. The usual antics. Kahli is huge by the way.

Diva Costume Contest
Trinity wins over Ariel and Kelly Kelly
Aren't the ladies called "Vixens" on ECW? Anyway, Trinity won due to her "Danger" tape for a top and damn was that gorgeous.

Ariel who came out with Thorn for his match earlier wore the same outfit and Kelly Kelly had the CM Punk Pepsi tattoo her arm. That made Mike Knox come out after the contest and Punk saved the day to a big pop from the crowd.

Main Event
Test and Big Show def. Hardocore Holly and RVD
Things look to be going RVD's way after he hits Rolling Thunder, but then said gorilla from earlier in the show hops over the ramp and nails Holly with a night stick after the ref had been knocked down.

Show then goes for a chokeslam and gets the win and the gorilla takes off his mask to reveal that it is Heyman. They taunt RVD and head out.

Smackdown

Show starts with Mysterio coming out on crutches to say goodbye. He is joined in the ring by Chavo and Vicki who bring with them the chair from the I quit match. Chavo signs the chair I quit (which really looked like "I Ouit" to everyone around me, but we shall see.
Chavo ducks a shot from Rey with a crutch and Chavo begins the beatdown that we all knew was coming. Then the other part we all knew was coming happend when Benoit came down and saved the day. Benoit got a good pop though and the crowd clapped as Rey was helped out of the arena.

Video spot of Teddy Long telling Batista that he has to guard King Booker and make sure he gets to Cyber Sunday unscathed with threats of ECW and Raw guys showing up.

Brian Kendrick and Paul London wAshley def. Idol Stevens and K.C. James w/Michelle McCool
The usual goodness. Nothing spectacular. (A match I wasn't too interested in other than checking out Ashley).

Batsista and Booker T vignete with Dave not letting Sharmell go to the bathroom.

Kane and Undertaker def. Kennedy and MVP
This turned out to be three matches in one since Kennedy and MVP kepts running away.
Starts off with Kennedy and MVP not wanting to be in the match and tagging out just to get out of the match. They eventually became fed up and decided to leave. Referee Nick Patrick gave them the 10 count and The Bros. won by countout.

T. Lo. comes out and says match will restart and be no count out and forces Kennedy and MVP back to the ring.
Same type of match as before until Kennedy takes the high road and low blows Kane in front of the ref for the DQ.

Sure enough, T. Lo comes out and says not done yet, match is now no DQ. The bros run down the aisle and get MVP and Kennedy and the match restarts. The Bros one up each other eventually getting to where they do a choke slam simultaneous choke slams. Taker ends the match on a Tombstone to Kennedy.

They hang out in the ring for Takers celebratory pose and Kane does his pyro thing. They both back flip over the top rope and stop on the stage, raising arms together. Place went nuts, obviously biggest pop of the night.

**Why that match was where it was is beyond me because I lost interest the rest of the night**
Because of that and the fact that JBL got up and gave a little talk, the next couple mathes are a little blurry.

Mixed tag match
Miz and Kristal def. Vito and Layla
Kristal pins Layla by holding the tights on a rollup pin. Kristal looked great, hope that translates on TV.

Boogeyman comes out after the match with Miz and Kristal still in the ring. Miz gets away, but Kristal is stuck and Boogeyman gets out the worms and give Kristal a kiss. Great Spot, to a huge pop as well.

Helms def. Jimmy Wang Yang
Helms gets the win after KC James (I think it was him) distracts Yang. Matt Hardy then comes out to even the score as all four go at it.

Lashley def. Jamie Noble with a running powerslam
A quickie with Tatanka standing on the stage from the start with new war paint. He give speech to Lashley afterwards.

Video spot in the Parking lot of Batista taking King Booker and Sharmell to their limo. They get in the car and take off and Bastista fights off guys from ECW and Raw. The Raw guys were Cade and Murdoch, which didn't make sense and I couldnt get a good look at who the ECW guys were.

T. Lo comes out and thanks Bastista and Dave says he wants Finley tonight.

Batista hits the ring (huge pop) and calls out Finley. Finley comes out, but stays on ramp, and heads for the curtain. He must have stayed just beyond the curtain because as Bastista gets there he comes back and they being to brawl.

Refs get between them, but they break free a couple times before being broken up for good.

I think this is where they stopped taping because T. Lo comes out and says the main event is Bastista against Finley in a no DQ match.

That was the cue for the Little Bastard to come out as Tony Chimmel and the timekeeper start throwing stuff under the ring and a camera man pokes his head under there.

Sure enough he pops out and goes after Dave giving Finley the upper hand.

Momentum swings back and forth with them battling around the announce table and then back in the ring.

The finish starts when Finley hits Batista with the sheleleigh in the leg, but Dave kicks out. Finley then throughs three chairs in the ring and Dave catches one.

They hit chairs and Batsista build momentum. Don't know if that shot to the leg did anything as he finished Finley off with a Jackhammer suplex for the 1-2-3. The place went nuts and ended the show.

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 06:16 AM

What the hell was Khali doing in ECW? :huh:

SD sounds pretty good, and while it doesn't sound like a good match or segment, I'm still going to love the BoD match. :o

Lobo

10-30-2006, 06:20 AM

SD sounds like it should be pretty good this week

Bad Superman

10-30-2006, 06:38 AM

Heel Sage. :mad:

:cmad: :up:

I'm getting the RR Anthology, Austin's DVD, DX DVD and of course, Ric Flair and The Four Horsemen.

The Sage

10-30-2006, 07:29 AM

I don't see why Punk has to be ripped to the gills.

I think Benoit is just going to finish his career in WWE.

I agree. He pretty much has done everything anyway.

Anyone have HHH's entrance video?

Hunter Rider

10-30-2006, 08:50 AM

http://ca1n.c.yimg.jp/sports/sn2006102921525900048159m/sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/pict/200610/im00048159.jpg

http://www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com/maruKENTA.jpg

http://www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com/maruKENTA2.jpg

http://www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com/maruKENTA3.jpg

http://www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com/maruKENTA4.jpg

http://ca1n.c.yimg.jp/sports/sn20061029215948m0004816m/sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/pict/200610/im00048164.jpg

Bad Superman

10-30-2006, 09:18 AM

Ouch!!

Colossal Spoons

10-30-2006, 09:34 AM

So, DX is most likely going to beat Edge/Randy on Sunday right? I don't think Edge/Randy will be beating the legends for a few more months if at all.

Bad Superman

10-30-2006, 11:19 AM

They should beat DX. If not, there's no point on continuing with the feud nor DX. At the same time that would bury both Edge and Randy. They would lose momentum.

enterthemadness

10-30-2006, 11:36 AM

I'm tired of DX. If only HHH didn't have all of that power backstage.......thankfully I only watch Raw for Jeff Hardy, Edge...who's about to get pedigree to death by the game.

The Sage

10-30-2006, 12:16 PM

They should beat DX. If not, there's no point on continuing with the feud nor DX. At the same time that would bury both Edge and Randy. They would lose momentum.
'

There's only one ending to the Rated RKO/DX Feud that matters. The older guys either must put the new guys over, or the feud is in vain.

Bad Superman

10-30-2006, 12:30 PM

'

There's only one ending to the Rated RKO/DX Feud that matters. The older guys either must put the new guys over, or the feud is in vain.

I hope so, but nowadays WWE's booking lacks logic. Are you gonna watch Cyber Sunday?

The Sage

10-30-2006, 12:45 PM

I'll download it pending on the reviews of the matches and the outcomes. Right now my only interest is Rated RKO/DX. It should be a good match no matter the outcome.

Prognosticator

10-30-2006, 12:56 PM

I hope so, but nowadays WWE's booking lacks logic. Are you gonna watch Cyber Sunday?

NO. If they would have put together nWo/DX for SS, I was seriously thinking about that one...but now I won't!

ECW's december ppv main event sounds AWESOME, but I'm sure the rest of the card will be so TERRIBLE that there's no way I'll see it either.

enterthemadness

10-30-2006, 01:16 PM

NO. If they would have put together nWo/DX for SS, I was seriously thinking about that one...but now I won't!

ECW's december ppv main event sounds AWESOME, but I'm sure the rest of the card will be so TERRIBLE that there's no way I'll see it either.

Put the NWO shirt on Edge, Bischoff and....:wow: pre roided Orton...

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Bios/orton_randy.jpg

...And there we go.

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 02:01 PM

Orton doesn't roid, his build looks almost exactly the same as the picture.

NDX

10-30-2006, 02:42 PM

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 02:52 PM

http://www.rohwrestling.com/images/ecom/Products__2043_14.jpgThis is definitely the best dvd cover ROH has ever done. They should do all of their dvd's like this one from now on. :up:

NDX

10-30-2006, 02:59 PM

That covers has the perfect "Big Match" feel to it, really sells the main event.

Damn, I need to purchase too many dvds. Well, not until GBHn2 comes out.

Damn, Colt only has 9 toes now. Well, at least it wasn't an important toe.

enterthemadness

10-30-2006, 03:14 PM

:o only a pinky toe...

http://www.sescoops.com/artman/publish/article_5595.shtml

That is some scary and cool ****. (sorry, seen too many action movies)

Colossal Spoons

10-30-2006, 03:20 PM

'

There's only one ending to the Rated RKO/DX Feud that matters. The older guys either must put the new guys over, or the feud is in vain.

Yeah but I don't see that happening as soon as this Sunday. I'm thinkin DX will win and the feud will continue.

Hunter Rider

10-30-2006, 03:22 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5513/20061030torriexl1.jpg

Lobo

10-30-2006, 03:28 PM

Nice pic, and my girl has to be the daily diva again soon :woot:

Raw and Heroes tonight :D

HR were you able to download the show?

SLYspyder

10-30-2006, 04:51 PM

NDX

10-30-2006, 05:48 PM

Dave Meltzer is reporting that Daivari, The Great Khali, Elijah Burke, and Sylvester Terkay are moving from Smackdown to the ECW roster.

Unfortunately ECW isn't booked to take advantage of the boxing and MMA backgrounds of Burke and Terkay, respectively. Although the one positive will be a potential Burke/Punk feud.

Unless Daivari is wrestling, this is a pointless move, and Khali is just pointless altogether.

The FallenAngel

10-30-2006, 05:56 PM

I just read that tomorrow night, since Punk will be with the Ghost Hunters thing, that it'll be at the Stanley Hotel, the one in that move The Shining, and that it will be live, from 11pm-5am. Anything can happen, and they said that viewers will be able to send messages via the website, and Punk and the guys will check stuff out as they get the messages. Should be cool. :up:

TheVileOne

10-30-2006, 05:56 PM

I can't believe they actually did those spots that usually only get teased in US wrestling.

Free Web Conn

10-30-2006, 05:56 PM

They should move all the cruiserwieghts along with the title to ECW and have them wrestle X divsion style spot fests.

NDX

10-30-2006, 06:08 PM

The problem is that the X-Divison matches are spotfests and nothing else. Many of the matches, especially the 4, 6, etc. number of participant matches have no story progression and are just one pointless highspot after another, just to get the crowd to chant "TNA." Although a punch can get those fans to chant "TNA." Hopefully the eventual Senshi/Styles and Starr/Shelly feuds should boost the once prosperous XD to what it could be, or just be buried like the CW division in the WWE with horrible booking.

Now, I'm not saying WWE doesn't need to work on the CW division (or lack of), but going the direction of the X-Division will not help.

The Sage

10-30-2006, 06:52 PM

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5293/1148304281oa8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1243/399pxajstyles117ux2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7803/ajstyles3bytherattlesnake8zs.jpg

Sabretooth

10-30-2006, 07:13 PM

AJ should go back to being a heel. :o

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 07:40 PM

He sucked as a heel, though.

Eric Draven

10-30-2006, 07:47 PM

He was basically nothing more than a fratboy douchebag when he was a heel. Now someone that should go back to a heel in TNA is the Truth...

NDX

10-30-2006, 08:03 PM

He sucks in general, but I'm biased by my dislike.

DOG LIPS

10-30-2006, 08:14 PM

Gee, I wonder who Cena will face. :dry:

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:26 PM

Balderdash!

Colossal Spoons

10-30-2006, 08:26 PM

^Yeah seriously. The entire Eastern hemisphere could vote for Big Show or Booker and Cena would still fight Coach :rolleyes:

That bullgod from Shelton was F'n sick! :eek:

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:27 PM

Cool, HIAC. Any of you guys collect the classic superstars figures?

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:32 PM

Cena's promos are so painful to watch. He can't be funny to save his life.

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:35 PM

The only cheers for Cena are always high pitched. I think he only has 12 year old girls for fans.

Ghostvirus

10-30-2006, 08:38 PM

Yeah but I don't see that happening as soon as this Sunday. I'm thinkin DX will win and the feud will continue.

I think that if Bischoff gets elected as the Guest Ref. He will cost DX the win in effect forming a new Generation NWO of Orton, & Edge. That is just my prediction.

As I said before something better f-ing happen, because this thing is getting boring. Plus they need to get more members on DX. Right now they are just a freaking tag team!

NDX

10-30-2006, 08:38 PM

Christ... I just had a Full Metal Jacket flashback. That has officially become the worst promo I have ever seen.

FEAR THE BAT

10-30-2006, 08:41 PM

I have a small collection of the WWE Classics.

enterthemadness

10-30-2006, 08:41 PM

I like the XD spotfests...but it should be better than that.

The Cena promo was...well...surprisly good. PCP? :huh: that is a drug?

I want Cena to face K-Fed. Where is he?

Carlito will get lucky tonight (Maybe not in real life...but his character....:o)

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:42 PM

Christ... I just had a Full Metal Jacket flashback. That has officially become the worst promo I have ever seen.

He almost makes me wish for those old Backlund promo...almost.

Please let Lita win this match.

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:44 PM

I have a small collection of the WWE Classics.

They are incredible in their detail. I used to collect the old LJN figs when I was a kid. When I saw the classic figs, I felt ripped off.:csad:

NDX

10-30-2006, 08:45 PM

Damn, that Bulldog was Punk-esque.

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 08:52 PM

Not the fastest punches in the world but I wouldn't want to get tagged with a Big Show reverse punch.:wow:

NDX

10-30-2006, 09:17 PM

I need to get my hands on UMAGA's theme music.

FEAR THE BAT

10-30-2006, 09:28 PM

They are incredible in their detail. I used to collect the old LJN figs when I was a kid. When I saw the classic figs, I felt ripped off.:csad:

They are pretty cool but the scale is an issue. Rey Mysterio and Batista are not supposed to have damn near the same body thickness and see eye to eye. Overall in detail they are very good but if they could ever fix the scale issue they'd be great.

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 09:34 PM

They are pretty cool but the scale is an issue. Rey Mysterio and Batista are not supposed to have damn near the same body thickness and see eye to eye. Overall in detail they are very good but if they could ever fix the scale issue they'd be great.

LOL! Yeah, I noticed that too. I saw an Andre figure and he was the same size as Ric Flair. :huh: That's just not right.
I don't think I'm going to collect a bunch but I'm thinking about laying out the $$ for the series 1 HBK fig.

NDX

10-30-2006, 09:36 PM

Looks like the current plans for RAW in december is to have Cena face Umaga for the gold and a continuation of Edge/Orton vs. DX, according to a promo for an East Rutherford (Continental Airlines Arena) show in Jersey.

NDX

10-30-2006, 09:39 PM

Hmm... and here I though Haas was dead.

Free Web Conn

10-30-2006, 09:40 PM

what are they gonna do are they gonna give Umaga the belt becuase the last time I checked he was undeafted and I really don't want to see Cena end his win streak.

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 09:42 PM

The crowds have been feat or famine w/ Cryme Tyme. Some are really into them and some are dead silent with ambivalence.:huh:

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 09:43 PM

what are they gonna do are they gonna give Umaga the belt becuase the last time I checked he was undeafted and I really don't want to see Cena end his win streak.

They should give Umaga the belt. It would be a waste after all this build up.

VenomXXXXL

10-30-2006, 09:44 PM

It seems to me that JTG has potential but Shad is just another slow big guy.

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 09:48 PM

Dude, Shad is awesome. I can't get over how hilarious it is when he screams "BOOM!" every time he does a strike. That, and he doesn't move too badly.

FEAR THE BAT

10-30-2006, 09:49 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Umaga hit Cena with that Samoan Spike in his damn throat. Have him spit up blood like KAne. :up:

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 09:50 PM

Spoilers for ECW (taped before Raw, to air next week)

7:35pm: A video package highlighting WrestleMania 22 is airing. - The ECW entrance area has a new look and is very impressive.

7:45pm: The Spirit Squad def. The Highlanders in a Dark Match. Crowd was really hot for the match. Tazz and Joey Styles are out.

8:02pm: CM Punk def. Mike Knox in a qualifying match for the Extreme Elimination Chamber. Elijah Burke cut a promo backstage with Terkay.

8:09pm: Paul Heyman came out to the ring. They showed footage from the TV tapings last night in Milwaukee when Heyman attacked RVD as a gorilla. They showed that footage to the crowd so we werent confused. Heyman also announced RVD and Holly vs. Big Show and himself.

8:17pm: Daivari with Great Khali def. Little Guido with Trinity. After the match, Khali attacked Guido.

8:25pm: Test def. Tommy Dreamer in a Extreme Elimination Chamber Qualifying match.

8:45pm: RVD & Hardcore Holly vs Big Show & Paul Heyman ended in a no contest when Holly turned heel and turned on Rob Van Dam in the main event.

Holy ****, Punk goes in the Elimination Chamber! Yes!

I am a happy, happy fan.

FEAR THE BAT

10-30-2006, 09:55 PM

Damn. The EEC is shaping up. So are those two that qualified the first two??

NDX

10-30-2006, 09:58 PM

Damn, now that there is a positive. Although the fact that Punk seemingly squashed Knox to get in still irks me. Knox is not the guy to have a long, productive match with, but still, they need to do something about that. And hey, Test over Dreamer, should be fun to see.

DOG LIPS

10-30-2006, 10:02 PM

^Yeah seriously. The entire Eastern hemisphere could vote for Big Show or Booker and Cena would still fight Coach :rolleyes:
Wow. It seems you are correct. You may be psychic. :dry::dry:

Sarge 2.0

10-30-2006, 10:03 PM

Damn. The EEC is shaping up. So are those two that qualified the first two??No, Sabu was the first to qualify, which means that if you include Show, RVD, Punk, and Test, there's only one spot left to fill in the match. Should be interesting to see who gets it, although I'm pulling for Sandman.

NDX

10-30-2006, 10:07 PM

Edit.

P.O.S. forum.

enterthemadness

10-30-2006, 10:08 PM

It's funny when Booker loses his british accent. :yay: he just did when coachman was losing to Cena...

enterthemadness

10-30-2006, 10:10 PM

No, Sabu was the first to qualify, which means that if you include Show, RVD, Punk, and Test, there's only one spot left to fill in the match. Should be interesting to see who gets it, although I'm pulling for Sandman.

Hass or Edge from Raw wearing a mask to hide their identity. :yay::csad: a guy can dream...:hyper:

NDX

10-30-2006, 10:21 PM

Sandman is the most likely candidate (having a qualifying match with Striker). Him, or mayhaps Balls Mahoney, although I think DtD should be the time to end his feud with Thorn (it still feels incomplete).

NDX

10-31-2006, 01:21 AM

now from Cabana's blog...(I learned sometime this afternoon that Cabana had recieved a pinkee toe transplant surgery, and was going to play a fairy princess on ECW this week, but then I realized both sounded too whack!)

Joking about serious issues...
I don't have internet on my computer at home...yet...
I can get on the Internet on my phone and I was able to read some of the messages and what not people were asking me about the accident.
Even with the accident, I worked Fri, Sat and Sunday. When I got home late Sunday night I was talking to my buddy Kip who was on the Internet. For all my fans, you know my sense of humor and how much I like to have a laugh. Well...Please understand that my (non-wrestling) friends are probably 10x worse.
So I figured, instead of waiting to go to the Library or my parents house, I just asked him to type up my Blog for me, word for word as I told him. Well...he did...but he decided to add a part about my toe which wasn't true.
After the accident I had told him how I was driving barefoot and had bruised my foot. We thought it'd be funny to say that I got my left pinky toe amputated. Obviously, I told him not to put it in there....Well...He did. When people started to talk about it I had asked him to change it, but he didn't do such a great job of it. He doesn't really understand how big our "little wrestling world" is, so he didn't see it as anything more than something to make him and my buddies laugh.
I was pissed off when everyone kept asking me about my toe, but now that I'm at my parents house writing this, I kinda laugh about it.
Everything in that last Blog was completely the facts. It was a very scary moment in my life and I have constant thoughts about not only my life, but being responsible for the lives of others. Its completely changed my outlook on life and everyday things that I can do that I might take for granted.
Buckle up kids and don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Your 10 toe'd friend
Cabana

Sarge 2.0

10-31-2006, 06:07 AM

Report from an ECW house show:

Heyman
announced he had good news and bads news. Bad news was Big Show was hurt and
couldnt wrestle. Everyone popped for that. Good news was, he found a
replacement for him to go against RVD in the Main Event. New Jack chant
started. Heyman said New Jack hated white people and he would stab all of
you just like how I, Paul Heyman stabbed your moms last night. Now I think
every person in the building hated Heyman.Heyman is God. :up:

Eklypze

10-31-2006, 07:03 AM

haha thats pretty funny

Bad Superman

10-31-2006, 07:50 AM

Prognosticator

10-31-2006, 09:18 AM

What happened during the last hour of RAW last night? I got bored and changed the channel...

The Sage

10-31-2006, 09:57 AM

I hope after Cyber Sunday, Edge and HBK do their own trio of matches.

Bad Superman

10-31-2006, 09:57 AM

What happened during the last hour of RAW last night? I got bored and changed the channel...

I didn't even watch it. I watched Heroes. :cmad: :up:

Prognosticator

10-31-2006, 10:15 AM

^ I DVR Heroes every week...I'm 3 or so weeks behind:)

NDX

10-31-2006, 11:05 AM

The Sage

10-31-2006, 11:08 AM

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/articles/62384/2006/10/31/make-movement--is-wwe-even-trying.html

Remember what I said about bad stereotypes are in bad taste such as Cryme Tyme? It's still true. You know how WWE will defend itself if the NAACP ever decide to go after the WWE? By calling it entertaining. And yet, the WWE has these two guys always facing guys who are of course not going to get a bigger pop than them (Spirit Squad, Viscera and Haas), so the glorified bad stereotype gets acute angle cheers. It's this kind of entertainment (and I'm not limiting it to just bad stereotypes for African Americans, they've done it to all races really--remember the Mexicools on tractors?) that makes me hope that my friends who watch pro wrestling never do.

Vince McMahon and his booking committee, instead of taking wrestlers and letting them wrestle is so character dependent and thinks we all tune in to watch characters and not wrestlers. How much more filler of the Marine outtakes can you take? Can't Vince just accept that he lost money by making this movie? John Cena is not the Rock, no matter how they try to make him the Rock. Last night, the match going into the PPV was Cena versus Coach. WWE should be thankful that the Vikings/Patriots game was practically a blowout. If they turn Coach, it will ultimately mean nothing because what's he going to do, lead DX to fight Vince? It would make more sense if Eric Bischoff swerves, because WWE needs a shot of excitement it doesn't have right now. I wouldn't even mind a double swerve, swerving to look like he's joining DX and then swerve again and bring back the nWo or WCW. TNA looks great right now because they are more focused on the wrestling, then the characters. All I can do is sigh and hope it gets better. If you watched RAW last night and hoped you were going to get a quality show to promote the upcoming PPV, Cyber Sunday, then I'm sorry that you got let down.

The WWE's X Division (Carlito, Hardy, Nitro, Benjamin) has a real shot of being a show stealer on Sunday because they are putting on refreshing matches when they are given TV time. Anything beats the same old song and dance, fans even look engage during their matches lately. My pick would be Carlito because I'm interested in seeing a good match against two faces. I'm not sure how I feel about Carlito acting like a coward as a way to get girls instead of just acting "cool" and why they must lean Torrie Wilson on him like a prop. His little tangle with Trish Stratus was more than enough of a brush/boost, he doesn't need Torrie too. It doesn't seem to have a real point, and that's sad, Carlito has so much charisma and ability, he is more like the Rock then John Cena.

The WWE's Women's Division is barely existing without Trish, but it doesn't make it any less insulting when neither Jim Ross or Jerry Lawler want to help push the women's match on Sunday. It's not out of character for Lawler to focus on the T&A factor, but Ross did the girls no favor. Why not act like a level A commentator and bring up Lita and Mickie's capable abilities to wrestle instead of humoring Lawler? Mickie James has the ability to do a No DQ and a Submissions Match (check out any match with Trish Stratus or any of her Ring of Honor tapes), and I would much rather see either style over Diva Lumberjacks. A No DQ would be far more compelling because her and Lita have every ability to build a good feud, a Divas Lumberjacks would feel like once again the Women's Division is just one giant joke to the booking committee in the back. I'm still looking forward to the match, and if Lita feels like working, it could end up surprising their critics.

No matter how people feel about how Triple H is booking himself in DX, and looking stronger in the match on RAW, it can't be denied DX is selling tickets and merchandise. I thought the surprise pedigree in the beginning was a good move because I was calling it to happen during the match. However, DX still needs a third guy of any sort. Apparently, two of the top faces have no friends to bail them out in their times of need, with the exception of the sometimes John Cena. Why not make a new angle where DX openly admits to being on the search for the next cool guy to join their clique? They could stretch it out for a while, studying talent (and they could study the girls too, to fall in line with their style), showing up in random spots but not letting on who they are studying or what they are thinking. Then one day, they come out with a mic and a shirt, and crown the next member of DX.

As far as the Umaga push, my suggestion is let him be the one to beat the Big Show to become the ECW World Champion if he's wrestling hurt and needs a break. It would seem realistic since they are both big guys and Umaga has the skills to be fast on his feet. Otherwise, I find myself bored with the squashes every week and I'd be less than thrilled to have him as the marketed champion of the RAW brand.

If TNA wants to make a real impact, this is the time to go head to head with the WWE as they flounder for ways to keep people from watching Monday Night Football. Speaking of, sadly my Panthers got embarrassed by the Cowboys on Sunday. Congrats to you Cowboy fans out there, you had the better game. TNA is doing what the WWE is not, they have the ability to have solid wrestling, however WWE has the long time exposure that fans aren't exercising to watch the competition on a different night and weird hour.

Enjoy your Halloween, if you choose to go out and drink, be safe. If you choose to do a drinking game while watching the ECW show, have a blast. Always remember, for things to change, you have to make movement. Thanks for reading and for all the feedback, feel free to contact me anytime at Bam@insidepulse.com.

Hunter Rider

10-31-2006, 11:21 AM

KENTA vs Marufuji is an awesome match,best of both guys careers IMO and they made the leap from JR heavies to main event heavyweights with that match.the crowd was in a frenzy during some parts and loud all the way through

They only lost it for about 30 seconds when they dropped the ball but none the less and great match:up:

The Sage

10-31-2006, 11:24 AM

http://www.stormwrestling.com/101406.html

Not sure if this has been posted or not. I was looking at Lance Storm's blogs. The first two are the truth.

John Cena and The Marine

October 14, 2006

I’ve been getting a ton of email asking me about John Cena and his newly released movie the Marine, so I thought I could take a look at both this week. For starters let me say that I will NOT be seeing The Marine. This is not because I think it will be a bad movie, it’s because I was SICK to DEATH of the damn thing a month ago.

In my opinion WWE has over exposed the hell out of this thing to the point where they may be driving away potential fans. I know for a fact they drove me away. I like action movies and would have gone to see this film out of curiosity and support to the company, but after 2 months of trailers and behind the scenes looks, I am so tired of hearing about it I don’t want to see it anymore.

There is at least 2 or 3 plugs for the film per WWE program, which in the course of a week means I have to see the same damn trailer or clip nearly 10 times per week, and they have been pushing it for about 2 months. If you do the match it means I’ve likely seen 75 – 100 Marine promos. (They’ve started airing on Spike during TNA too so it could even be higher.) In class this week we joked that if you taped all of the video clips and promos for the film that WWE aired you could probably edit them together and not only have the entire film, but all the DVD special features as well.

I understand the concept of a hard sell and making sure people know about the film but WWE fans are likely the ones that are going to be most willing to see this film in the first place so they don’t need it shoved down their throats. I would imagine most WWE viewers decided after the first trailer whether they planned to see this movie or not. If this movie is going to make any money non WWE fans are going to have to see it too and I have seen virtually no promotion for the film out side of the wrestling world.

Another sad thing is that it isn’t even getting that bad of reviews and you know with a WWE logo on it critics want to slam it hard. Sure it’s a mindless action movie but there is nothing wrong with that, it’s not like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone haven’t made a career out of mindless action movies. It certainly can’t be any worse than some of the Vin Diesel action flicks. Oh well regardless of how good or bad it is I won’t be seeing it, WWE has managed to make me sick to death of it before it even opened. Perhaps if the hype dies down and they don’t plug the hell out of the DVD release I’ll rent it when it hits my local video store.

Now on to John Cena, because I’ve been getting a ton of email wanting me to address John Cena and his claims of not ever taking Steroids. Let me start of by saying I can only SPECULATE as I don’t know John that well and he has never denied nor admitted steroid use to me. If I had to guess, which I guess I am, I’d say he’s done something be it steroids, HGH, what have you. I find it damn near impossible to believe that anyone can get that large and ripped (and he’s been a fair bit bigger in the past) without chemical assistance. That being said if I didn’t know me I likely would have said the same about me when I was in my best shape, and I know for a fact I’ve never taken ANYTHING. Perhaps he is playing semantics as I’ve only ever heard him say he’s never taken “steroids” and maybe he uses other physique enhancing drugs, or…here’s a crazy thought he could always be telling the truth.

There are a few things that do support John’s claims, which certainly don’t rule out drug use but shouldn’t be over looked either. Some of the more common signs of steroid use are: body acne, frequent muscle tears, gynecomastia, and testicular atrophy. John does not have the typical back acne commonly associated with steroid use, to my knowledge he has never been sidelined with muscle tears, he has no signs of gyno (enlarged breast tissue) nor the tell tale scars from gyno removal surgery, due to his ring attire however the jury is still out on the testicular atrophy. (If he wore standard trunk we would have a much clearer idea on this front, as disturbing a picture as that is) Again these signs are not 100% proof one way or the other but playing the averages they do support his claims, at least on the steroid front. I’m not sure what side effects other common physique enhancing alternatives have such as, HGH, Insulin manipulation, or synthol. I guess it all comes down to whether you want to believe him or not. I still tend to be skeptical, a side effect of being in the wrestling business, but to be honest, I don’t really care one-way or the other.

Lance Storm

The Sage

10-31-2006, 11:35 AM

Anyone have the Great American Bash 89?

Hunter Rider

10-31-2006, 11:36 AM

Anyone have the Great American Bash 89?

The whole event ?

The Sage

10-31-2006, 11:49 AM

The whole event ?

Maybe just Sting/Muta and Steamboat/Luger. I have Flair/Funk on the Flair Anthology.

NDX

10-31-2006, 12:02 PM

Eric Bischoff was a guest on the LAW over the weekend. Here are the highlights:

- Bischoff said WWE only made small modifications to his book, mostly for legal reasons.

- Bischoff said he is under contract with WWE until September 2007.

- Bischoff said his general manager persona had gotten stale, and he had become tired of playing role.

- He said what he learned from studying Japanese wrestling was that he had to make his product more real or believable.

- Bischoff said that because he couldn’t present WWF vs. WCW, the creation of the New World Order was the next best thing.

- He said the New World Order was to eventually become a separate brand.

- Bischoff said he was opposed to the creation of “Thunder.” He felt it would be the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Prognosticator

10-31-2006, 12:22 PM

Eric Draven

10-31-2006, 01:50 PM

Thunder was nothing like SD. The "star" wrestlers really never wanted to work Thunder most of the time, so it became nothing more than another B-show for WCW. Now if they had gone with their original plan and had Nitro be the nWo show while having Thunder be the WCW show, that would've been entirely different....:o

Sabretooth

10-31-2006, 02:47 PM

nWo brand? That would've been cool. Even though almost everybody was a nWo member at some point. :confused:

The FallenAngel

10-31-2006, 02:53 PM

The Sage

10-31-2006, 05:00 PM

http://www.stormwrestling.com/tvthoughts.html

Random TV Thoughts

WWE: RAW October 30, 2006
- I've decided I don't like the Cyber Sunday concept, because it makes for bad TV, or at least TV I don't care for. With so many matches having undecided opponents their aren't any feuds to hype or specific matches that can be build for the PPV, which leave us with a lot of promos and very little action on RAW.
- I was very disappointed with the 3-way match this week. Each guy did some nice stuff but absolutely nothing led to near falls. I don't think there was one single cover till the finish. All those big moves at the end would have meant so much more emotionally had there been covers with kick outs and or saves.
- Cena with the line of the night when he said to Todd? (I think that's his name): "You like Dudes!"
- Please stop with the Marine trailers!!! There were three of them and it's not even in theaters here anymore.
- Didn't Big Show double cross Booker on SD 3 nights ago? Why were they sitting side by side and getting along most of the night?
- Is Edge hurt? He hasn't wrestled on TV in a month and this was the thrid straight week for HHH - Orton.
- Remember the good old days when getting double teamed and hit with a chair 3 times actually laid someone out?
- Did Dusty Rhodes steal my Cabbage Patch? He's welcome to it, I'm just double checking.

TNA: Impact October 26, 2006
- After my TNA Rant commentary I don't want to say too much bad about this show so this will likely be short.
- The opening PPV video was real good, not actually showing the finishing move and 1.2.3 to the matches made me feel like I missed out on something, which is exactly how people who don't buy the PPV should feel.
- Were there no rules what so ever in the Tag Title Match and if not why was that not explained to me? The Naturals are the biggest jobbers on the planet, they couldn't beat LAX after LAX was already beat up by AMW.
- If not for the ECW Strip Poker thing a few weeks back, that Reverse Battle Royal would be the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. How that fiasco could determine who is worthy of a World Title shot is beyond me.
- Could Traci have been less of a factor in Roode's first match after signing with her? That was a rhetorical question!

WWE:SmackDown October 27, 2006
- I missed the main event when I taped the show due to a delay in airing the show on "The Score".
- You could tell they just got back from a long over seas trip as I thought energy level and match quality was down this week.
- Was the MVP backstage segment meant to be a cheap shot at Kurt Angle? They had MVP taking pills to deal with pain and pointing out that his contract has a clause that he only has to compete when 100%. (A claim Kurt made about his TNA deal). I hope they remember this and don't do any angles where MVP works hurt in the future.
- I am so uncomfortable with the Vicky Guerrero stuff, it does not sit well in my stomach. I appreaciate that she is earning a living but I have a hard time watching it.
- The one good thing about a Miz - Boogey Man feud is that I will only have to fast forward through one segment to avoid them both.
- JBL again with the line of the night when I think he said that Miz came to the Battle Royal dressed as a Jack Ass.
- A real flat show to me, perhaps the main event saved it.

WWE: ECW October 27, 2006 (Airs Friday in Canada)
- Wow, the long over seas road trip was real evident on this show. Botched spots left and right this week.
- I liked the RVD preshow video package but felt VERY ripped off when they didn't honour the stipulation of RVD getting his title shot and forced yet another match to accomplish the same thing.
- We got a ladder match on Free TV and were exactly where we were last week as far as the RVD - Show feud. The ladder match accomplished nothing! It wasn't advertised so it could pull ratings, it was on free TV so it didn't draw money, and from an angle stand point we are exactly where we were last week.
- Did anyone else hear Joey Style choke on his tongue when Paul Heyman said "He was a man of his word"? (LOL)

Prognosticator

10-31-2006, 05:18 PM

...sounds like i'll be skipping ecw again tonight!

Sarge 2.0

10-31-2006, 06:07 PM

...

Uh, what? :huh:

The spoilers sounded fine.

NDX

10-31-2006, 08:28 PM

Looking forward to ECW myself.

Hmm... rereading the spoilers, I seemingly misread the second match of the evening. Now I'm even more interested in the show.

Hunter Rider

10-31-2006, 08:57 PM

I know she has her fangs...i mean fans...:oldrazz::csad:

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/7083/20061031arielmp6.jpg

Sabretooth

10-31-2006, 08:58 PM

Damn that ***** is hoooooooooooooooooooooot :cmad:

God,I need to get laid. :csad:

Sabretooth

10-31-2006, 09:04 PM

Here she is now :heart:

Sarge 2.0

10-31-2006, 09:43 PM

Is it just me, or does Show look like he's in a ton of pain?

Hunter Rider

10-31-2006, 09:54 PM

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7458/195311297lxq3.jpg

NDX

10-31-2006, 10:14 PM

Is it just me, or does Show look like he's in a ton of pain?

He looks miserable in that ring. He really needs to take some time off post Cyber Sunday, but it doesn't look like that will happen at all.

First a blue thong, then a pink wig...

Mal'Akai

10-31-2006, 10:28 PM

Any thoughts on wether the title on the line at Cyber Sunday will change hands??

baby_webhead

10-31-2006, 10:39 PM

I don;t think so. It'll probably be Cena's belt on the line cause it IS a Raw PPV. Then, since they're playing him up as the underdog, he'll retain his title. WWE loves the underdog story (Rey, Benoit, Cena, Smackdown at the survivor series match, etc.)

Mal'Akai

10-31-2006, 10:51 PM

Should the Spirit Squad split up??

zer00

10-31-2006, 11:40 PM

I know she has her fangs...i mean fans...:oldrazz::csad:

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/7083/20061031arielmp6.jpg
Her myspace is awesome:o

NDX

11-01-2006, 12:01 AM

Thoroughly enjoyed ECW tonight. Missed the Sabu/Thorn and Daivari/Moore matches (although I taped them), and thought the main event went well, even though Show looked like all he wanted to do was sleep in the front row. Test pulled his weight well for his team. And damn, Trinity, Ariel and Kelly all in the ring at the same time. Was near expecting a catfight between Ariel and Trinity. Hopefully soon.

A good week for SmackDown! According to Gerweck.net, the final rating for the 10/27 edition of Smackdown was a 2.8 broadcast rating.

Thought this to be amusing: - John Cena was interviewed for VH-1's top 100 80's songs countdown. He comments on "Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones. Cena also plays air guitar during a Motorhead song. He shows more charisma in that two second clip than he does in the entire "The Marine" movie.

Mal'Akai

11-01-2006, 08:13 AM

Thought this to be amusing: - John Cena was interviewed for VH-1's top 100 80's songs countdown. He comments on "Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones. Cena also plays air guitar during a Motorhead song. He shows more charisma in that two second clip than he does in the entire "The Marine" movie.
That's because Marine's have their charisma sugicaly removed during basic training, along with several other personality traits. Ultimately, left only with "kill".

j/k

Free Web Conn

11-01-2006, 09:23 AM

New Match For Cyber Sunday
Fans choose match: Fatal Four Way, Tag Team Turmoil or Texas Tornado
- Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch vs. Cryme Tyme vs. Charlie Haas & Viscera vs. The Highlanders.

enterthemadness

11-01-2006, 12:50 PM

You think most people wouldn't vote consdiering WWE has probably already written the macthes for this Sunday.

The Punisher

11-01-2006, 01:10 PM

So, did anyone watch CM Punk on Ghost Hunters?

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 02:21 PM

I watched about an hour and a half of it. I like how he talked about "[his] buddy Scott", which is probably Colt Cabana. Punk just seems like a really down to earth, personable guy who's fun to hang out with.

The FallenAngel

11-01-2006, 02:34 PM

I watched about an hour and a half of it as well. I heard that the activity started up in the hotel about 3 hours into it though. Hope they replay it.

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 02:44 PM

Some Punk quotes from the show last night, courtesy of people on the ROH boards who watched the whole thing:

"Have you guys ever ghost hunted in Hawaii? No? Well, I have this fat friend...I shouldn't say fat, that might offend him, but he's Samoan and claims to have seen ghosts."

"Maybe the ghosts have a glass ceiling? Break through that glass ceiling ghosts! I plan to."

"This going out on the internet? I'm huge on the internet! Wrestling nerds one and all are helping us out!"

Hahaha. Good stuff.

NDX

11-01-2006, 02:46 PM

Damn, should have followed the program better. Seems Punk was representing ECW just right.

The FallenAngel

11-01-2006, 02:47 PM

They better replay that. :cmad:

Sabretooth

11-01-2006, 02:53 PM

I would love to just hang out with Punk. He seems like one of those people that you'd have a million stories to tell after being near them for just a few minutes.

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 02:55 PM

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 02:57 PM

NDX

11-01-2006, 03:00 PM

From the article on ECW.com on Punk's guest stint on Ghost Hunters:

“I feel very comfortable here. Due to ECW having all the freaks and psychopaths, we got vampires, we got homicidal maniacs, chair-swinging freaks and fatty Tommy Dreamer,” Punk said. “I think I’m prepared for any kind of ghoul that wants to come my way, because after all I’m on a show with Balls Mahoney – it doesn’t get any scarier than that.”

Full article: http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/hunterpunk

Not a bad read.

Sabretooth

11-01-2006, 03:03 PM

LOL :woot:Joe,net smarks and glass ceilings ll in one show:up:

BTW did anyone watch RAW the other night ? worst RAW in ages,i enjoyed like 5 minutes of the whole show and the rest was tripe:csad:
Invincible Triple H rawked.:csad:

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:04 PM

It was pretty uninteresting, yeah. Nothing really seemed to matter, the buildup sucked, no matches were really entertaining, and nobody really went forward, they just took steps backward that varied in length. But Mickie on commentary was awesome.

I missed that as i hate watching Lita wrestle now so i ran it on,she did look fine though

The only segments i thought were good were the Cena and Legends promo's the HHH/Orton match was ok but god it felt pedestrian and was booked badly making HHH look much to strong

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 03:06 PM

From the article on ECW.com on Punk's guest stint on Ghost Hunters:

Full article: http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/hunterpunk

Not a bad read.The Ghost Hunters geeks on the Sci Fi boards were outraged by Punk's presence. Shouldn't surprise me, but Jesus, they take the show too seriously.

NDX

11-01-2006, 03:16 PM

NDX

11-01-2006, 03:18 PM

I missed that as i hate watching Lita wrestle now so i ran it on,she did look fine though

The only segments i thought were good were the Cena and Legends promo's the HHH/Orton match was ok but god it felt pedestrian and was booked badly making HHH look much to strong

After the match I was questioning what's the point of having Shawn even team with him when he can handle both of them on his own.

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 03:27 PM

I would think having skeptic from outside source shows helps the Ghost Hunters and that respective show out. Guess people don't know how to open up. What I did see of the show, outside of Punk, it wasn't that entertaining. But I only saw a total of an hour at random times.Heh, they were saying that Punk has a mullet and a rat tail. :huh:

But, in a way, I sympathize with them. Punk didn't seem to take it all that seriously, and apparently was just joking around with the guys and telling stories, trying to get them to lighten up. GH fans took offense, because it ruins the point of the show for them. As wrestling fans, we would be just as annoyed or offended if one of the Ghost Hunter guys showed up on Raw or something, and his appearence would suck because he wouldn't know how to cut a promo, take a bump, etc. They disliked Punk's appearence because he obviously didn't take any of the stuff seriously, because while the guys were all intense looking for temperature changes in the room, he was telling stories about how his buddy lost his toe. But like I said a few weeks ago when I found out Punk would be on the show, Ghost Hunters is faker than wrestling. Those fans with their panties in a bunch are being hypocrites.

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:30 PM

After the match I was questioning what's the point of having Shawn even team with him when he can handle both of them on his own.
Exactly,WWE and their superfaces:csad:

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:31 PM

Heh, they were saying that Punk has a mullet and a rat tail. :huh:

But, in a way, I sympathize with them. Punk didn't seem to take it all that seriously, and apparently was just joking around with the guys and telling stories, trying to get them to lighten up. GH fans took offense, because it ruins the point of the show for them. As wrestling fans, we would be just as annoyed or offended if one of the Ghost Hunter guys showed up on Raw or something, and his appearence would suck because he wouldn't know how to cut a promo, take a bump, etc. They disliked Punk's appearence because he obviously didn't take any of the stuff seriously, because while the guys were all intense looking for temperature changes in the room, he was telling stories about how his buddy lost his toe. But like I said a few weeks ago when I found out Punk would be on the show, Ghost Hunters is faker than wrestling. Those fans with their panties in a bunch are being hypocrites.

The thing is when you come on a wrestling show and don't take it serious Umaga kills you:woot:

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 03:34 PM

Exactly.

They need more guys who will wreck uncooperative douche bag celebrities, Umaga just isn't enough. Hell, they need a whole show with a roster dedicated to stiffing the celebrities who don't know how to work. :o

Duende Verde

11-01-2006, 03:36 PM

Mexican luchador legend, Huracan Ramirez, died of a heart attack this morning. He was 80 years old.
http://www.frontera.info/edicionenlinea/fotos/Deportes/65956.jpg

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 03:40 PM

Holy crap, that sucks. :csad:

Also, I didn't know that you were a wrestling fan, Duende. Or do you just watch lucha?

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:41 PM

Duende Verde

11-01-2006, 03:42 PM

I'm a casual fan, used to what a lot of WWF during the 80's and love all the kitsch luchador stuff like old "El Santo" movies

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 03:43 PM

4

If only Hansen and Vader were still on the roster in their prime:cmad::up:I'd pay good money to see Steve-O get the lariat. :up:

The Punisher

11-01-2006, 03:45 PM

NDX

11-01-2006, 03:48 PM

I'd pay good money to see Steve-O get the lariat. :up:

I'd pay to see Vader club him to death in a corner.

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:51 PM

Superstars shoot on Eric Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash...
October 16, 2006

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100regal.jpgWilliam Regal on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
“Bischoff was always good to me personally. I worked with him for a long time. He looked after me and took good care of me…”
“If Eric is willing to be honest and talk about his own mistakes, I think it will be a good book. I think he knows a lot of things he did were wrong, so hopefully he will confront it. He had unlimited amounts of money to spend every week, and that helped him buy controversy, which is something people want to read about. I think the book should be very interesting.”

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100chavo.jpgChavo Guerrero on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
“Controversy creates an a**hole. That’s what he is. He kissed all the top guys asses in WCW, while all the workhorses, guys like Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, Rey Mysterio and myself were treated like s***. We were the ones busting our asses and having the best matches in WCW while the top guys couldn’t have a good match to save their lives… Basically, what Eric did was steal all the top guys from WWE and make another WWE. The difference was, in WWE, all their top guys could go for 45 minutes and have great matches on every night, but in WCW none of the top guys could go.
On the book…
“Bischoff did a lot of bad things while he was on top. He was on a power trip and I don’t think he has the balls to come clean and admit it in the book.”

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100booker.jpgKing Booker on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
“I always had a good business relationship with Eric Bischoff. When I was there he always kept me in a great position, and treated myself and my abilities with respect…Eric’s always been very controversial so I would expect the same from his book.”

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100bigshow.jpgECW World Champion Big Show on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
“Eric was a brilliant man. I think he did a lot for WCW, and played a big role in making them as successful as they were. He was a smart businessman as well, very creative… I know when I first arrived at WCW I was very young and ignorant to the business. I didn’t understand the concept of how much money was being spent or how much I was going to make. Eric spent a lot of WCW money to compete with WWE. They had a history, and a reputation and we didn’t, but Eric was very bold in letting people know that WCW was second to none. He created a lot of controversy, like when he challenged Vince McMahon to a fist-fight. I’m looking forward to the book, I can’t wait to read it.”

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100finlay.jpgFinlay on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
“I’m sure there will be a lot of things in this book that make people angry, and a lot that will make people laugh. A lot of the things in this book probably should’ve been left behind and never spoken of again, but that’s Bischoff for you. Every single minute of every day in WCW was controversial. I think the book will be very informative so I can’t wait to read it.”

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100helms.jpgCruiserweight Champion Gregory Helms on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
“I’m definitely interested in reading this book. I’d like to hear about some of Eric’s philosophies, some of the gambles he took, and how he felt about some of the decisions that didn’t go his way.”

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/3489720/130x100torrie.jpgTorrie Wilson on Bischoff and Controversy Creates Cash…
I’d definitely like to read this book. I was part of WCW during its downfall so I experienced a lot of it first hand. I’d love to hear more about the stories of Eric and WCW blowing money, some of which was on me, which by the way I enjoyed every minute of.”

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 03:53 PM

I watched for only about an hour. Anyone know how long they were in that house?Six hours.

More recent reports I've been reading have been saying that Punk was no selling everything, like when the guys were spazzing out over some movement on the ceiling, Punk gave the camera a smug look and made the glass ceiling quip. They were also staying in one room for like, hours, and talking about how there was no activity, and apparently Punk was laying on the bed looking half asleep, and he piped in "A watched pot never boils.", and the Ghost Hunters guys gave him dirty looks.

And from what I've read, Punk just made wrestling references the whole time, and here's the ones that have been reported:

- Joe reference
- Colt "loses his toe" reference
- Maria
- Katie Vick
- Glass ceiling
- "I have come here to chew bubble gum..."
- "I'm huge on the internet!"

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:54 PM

http://p6.piczo.com/img/i146716319_38502_6.gif

NDX

11-01-2006, 03:58 PM

Well... that was all I needed for the evening.

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 03:59 PM

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/a4reak/d59ce69fcb.gif

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/a4reak/stacy5.gif

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/a4reak/candiceballon2mv.gif

The Apatow Crew

11-01-2006, 04:31 PM

http://p6.piczo.com/img/i146716319_38502_6.gifNIIIICE!

zer00

11-01-2006, 04:32 PM

Six hours.

More recent reports I've been reading have been saying that Punk was no selling everything, like when the guys were spazzing out over some movement on the ceiling, Punk gave the camera a smug look and made the glass ceiling quip. They were also staying in one room for like, hours, and talking about how there was no activity, and apparently Punk was laying on the bed looking half asleep, and he piped in "A watched pot never boils.", and the Ghost Hunters guys gave him dirty looks.

And from what I've read, Punk just made wrestling references the whole time, and here's the ones that have been reported:

- Joe reference
- Colt "loses his toe" reference
- Maria
- Katie Vick
- Glass ceiling
- "I have come here to chew bubble gum..."
- "I'm huge on the internet!"
Those reports are greatly exaggerated. The guys over on the GH message board really just hated Punk being there.

And thank you Hunter

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 04:35 PM

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8613/20061101michellefb5.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3972/ta295ga8.jpg

The Apatow Crew

11-01-2006, 04:35 PM

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9547/michelleai8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 04:37 PM

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6726/nednpacnr2.jpg

X Pac and Scott Hall at last weekends TNT show

The Punisher

11-01-2006, 04:37 PM

Six hours.

More recent reports I've been reading have been saying that Punk was no selling everything, like when the guys were spazzing out over some movement on the ceiling, Punk gave the camera a smug look and made the glass ceiling quip. They were also staying in one room for like, hours, and talking about how there was no activity, and apparently Punk was laying on the bed looking half asleep, and he piped in "A watched pot never boils.", and the Ghost Hunters guys gave him dirty looks.

And from what I've read, Punk just made wrestling references the whole time, and here's the ones that have been reported:

- Joe reference
- Colt "loses his toe" reference
- Maria
- Katie Vick
- Glass ceiling
- "I have come here to chew bubble gum..."
- "I'm huge on the internet!"

Wow, I definetly hope this shows again. Thanks for the rundown.

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 04:40 PM

Those reports are greatly exaggerated. The guys over on the GH message board really just hated Punk being there.

And thank you HunterI was reading reports from Punk's own messageboard, so there's probably a middle ground between the reports from Punks fans, and from the GH fans.

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 04:42 PM

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6726/nednpacnr2.jpg

X Pac and Scott Hall at last weekends TNT showHahaha. :csad:

But seriously, Hall probably isn't much better than that old guy. :csad:

zer00

11-01-2006, 04:43 PM

I was reading reports from Punk's own messageboard, so there's probably a middle ground between the reports from Punks fans, and from the GH fans.
Oh well. Regardless it's pretty exaggerated. The team giving him dirty looks and everything never happened. I thought he was going to be annoying as hell on there. He ended up being pretty into it.

Free Web Conn

11-01-2006, 05:36 PM

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/connweb/Trinity1031.jpg
http://wrestlingfansforum.editboard.com/

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 05:40 PM

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http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9905/07zp7.jpg

NDX

11-01-2006, 07:19 PM

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/connweb/Trinity1031.jpg
http://wrestlingfansforum.editboard.com/
Damn glad I taped that segment.

NDX

11-01-2006, 07:39 PM

From Chris Hero's Live Journal:

4 - October 14th saw Claudio and myself plow through three tag teams to become two-time CZW tag team champions. You know what that means? CHIKARA, ROH and now CZW. The Kings of Wrestling hold Independent Wrestling's Tag Team Triple Crown and we don't plan on losing it any time soon. That means we're the best in the Independents and if you ask me, there isn't a better tag team in the WORLD than the Kings of Wrestling. Somebody, anybody, I'm beggin' ya, PROVE me wrong.

Will be interesting to see them show up to an ROH show sporting all three titles.

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 08:22 PM

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/extremists/kellykelly/photos/3601180/Kelly005.jpg

Hunter Rider

11-01-2006, 08:46 PM

From one of the matches of the year

http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/img/random/maruvskenta10261.gif
http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/img/random/maruvskenta10262.gif
http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/img/random/maruvskenta10263.gif

NDX

11-01-2006, 09:03 PM

From one of the matches of the year

http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/img/random/maruvskenta10261.gif
http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/img/random/maruvskenta10263.gif

Hunter, if you could turn these into avvys for me, I'd be eternally greatful.

zer00

11-01-2006, 09:03 PM

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/connweb/Trinity1031.jpg
http://wrestlingfansforum.editboard.com/
Thank god for tivo

Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 09:04 PM

Pictures from CHIKARA's Monster Mash and Cibernetico Forever event last weekend:

http://www.psuprowrestlingclub.com/photos/monstermash/images/DSC00967.jpg

http://www.psuprowrestlingclub.com/photos/monstermash/images/DSC00970.jpg

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Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 09:11 PM

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Sarge 2.0

11-01-2006, 09:12 PM

http://www.psuprowrestlingclub.com/photos/10282006/images/DSC01044.jpg

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http://www.psuprowrestlingclub.com/photos/10282006/images/DSC01056.jpg

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Check out this guy bridging for no reason that I can discern:

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NDX

11-01-2006, 10:13 PM

Can't seem to find this on WWE.com, but here it is:

WWE announced today the release of SmackDown Superstar Psicosis. The following is the official announcement from WWE.com:

WWE has come to terms on the release of Psicosis as of today, November 1. We wish Psicosis the best in all future endeavors.

As reported last month here on LordsOfPain.net, Psicosis was arrested on October 9th for auto theft/fleeing police. No word on if this incident had anything to do with his release. Psicosis was last seen on WWE television on the July 21st edition of SmackDown.

thedeadite

11-01-2006, 10:46 PM

he is bridging because he is the Hydra and is a mighty creature!!!!

i <3 Chikara

Eric Draven

11-01-2006, 10:47 PM

Yeah, not really surprised there. Well except that it took them long enough to release him. I thought they would've released him as soon as he got arrested....

NDX

11-01-2006, 11:01 PM

I thought they would have released him before he was stupid enough to steal a car.

Now, if we can only get Super Crazy back into the IC title hunt post Cyber Sunday.

Free Web Conn

11-01-2006, 11:59 PM

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/connweb/400716271_l.jpg

Assassin

11-02-2006, 01:48 AM

The thing is when you come on a wrestling show and don't take it serious Umaga kills you:woot:

Steve o ****ed it up and didnt sell any of umagas beatings, and when umaga and estraaaaaadaaaa were walking out, in the background you can see stevo and potous jumping over the ropes onto the floor laughing.

Assassin

11-02-2006, 02:03 AM

^ But Thunder worked like SD for a couple of years, complementing Nitro. Although moving it from Thursday to Wednesday was a bit of a stretch...

I went to a Thunder once and it was incredible! (Although it was week 2 or 3 of Thunder's existence, which eventually became stale)

Thunder was a step up from their Saturday Night show on TBS...

I used to watch Thunder because it was when I loved Wrestling more than anything else in the world and I had Raw on Monday, SMackdown on Thursday and Thunder on wednesday, i didnt even know the story line, i was happy to see wrestlers i didnt know wrestle.

Assassin

11-02-2006, 02:10 AM

well I'm done catching up, reading and responding to all the pages i missed over the week, But I have to say, ECW is the best wrestling show on TV. Davari, is a nice addition, and I hope they fire Khali soon. Test is actually a good wrestler. I still dont hate John Cena, him and Umaga are th eonly good things on Raw besides the IC six. And I love the American dream song, its new to me because i was never a fan of DUsty Rhodes, because I've never seen him wrestle.

Assassin

11-02-2006, 02:14 AM

Ohh, and my Wrestlemania tickets came in the mail today, If I die April 2nd, i'd die a happy man.

Twitch

11-02-2006, 05:28 AM

From one of the matches of the year

http://www.wicked-wrestling.com/img/random/maruvskenta10261.gif

New Avatar at DVDR :up:

Do you have one of the ringpost bulldog?

Free Web Conn

11-02-2006, 08:41 AM

- Hustle is trying to get Chicago White Sox catcher AJ Pierzynski for their Hustlemania show in a few weeks.

- The Great Sasuke received some heat for a comment he made on 10/19, while talking to the assembly in Iwate. Sasuke, a masked politician and wrestler in Japan, said illegal drugs are being dealt at area schools.

- All Japan will be holding its annual tryouts on 1/28.

- New Japan has established a working relationship with Dragon Gate.

- Speaking of Dragon Gate, the group sold out the Korakuen Hall on 10/20 with such talent as Genichiro Tenryu, Kevin Steen and Jack Evans.

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 11:51 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Justinthyme/010.jpg

Nitro Big Pimpin'

New WWE developmental signee Keith "Mike Venom" Walker:
http://www.harleyrace.com/images/japanarticles905/Keith_Walkerprof.jpg

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 12:21 PM

Steve Austin's first movie, The Condemned, is scheduled to be released to theatres on April 27, 2007. The movie is currently in post-production and WWE is expected to push the movie heavily alongside WrestleMania 23.

ECW On Sci-Fi did a 1.6 rating last night

Prognosticator

11-02-2006, 12:58 PM

How was Punk's match last night??

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 02:30 PM

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8409/20061102candiceam7.jpg

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 02:32 PM

How was Punk's match last night??

He didn't wrestle he just did a run in when Knox was shouting at Kelly

batman7289

11-02-2006, 02:37 PM

man this thread is popular

Lobo

11-02-2006, 02:37 PM

Thanks for the avvys HR ;)

The Punisher

11-02-2006, 02:40 PM

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8409/20061102candiceam7.jpg

I'd stuff my face in her tatas. :csad:

Sabretooth

11-02-2006, 02:43 PM

How would you guys feel about Cena going to ECW as a heel?

The Punisher

11-02-2006, 02:47 PM

You know, i was thinking about Cena on ECW on Tuesday. I think it would be pretty cool.

Sabretooth

11-02-2006, 02:49 PM

I can see a Hardcore Holly deal happening with him. If they cut the Marine crap.....

Then again they might have Punk become his personal *****. :csad:

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 03:00 PM

There appears to be some confusion online regarding some developmental Divas being called up to SmackDown at this week's tapings. First off, Angel Williams will be the new manager of The Gymini in a deal similar to Michelle McCool and Idol Stevens & KC James. They probably won't be appearing on this week's SmackDown considering that they worked a dark match, but they should be up any week.

Secondly, Jimmy Wayne Yang will debut a new valet this week, and she's a skinny young blonde girl as well. Some people seemed to confuse her with Williams due to their similar looks, but this is an entirely different person. Yang's new valet will be the first contestant who was eliminated in this year's Diva Search contest, Amy Zidian, who is 19 or 20 years old. She was the contestant who was shocked to be the first person eliminated, especially considering that she planned on throwing thongs out to the crowd afterwards. Then she started crying and all the other contestants comforted her before she left.

Though she was the first person eliminated, to the surprise of many people, including her, WWE hired her anyways a few weeks later along with Milena Roucka and Maryse Ouellet. She was promptly sent down to OVW for training and she made her first appearance for the promotion just last week in a Halloween costume contest. She then appeared on last weekend's swing of ECW house shows in bikini contests, apparently replacing Rebecca DiPietro for the weekend. And then without warning, WWE called Zidian up for TV and she appeared at Sunday's SmackDown tapings as the new valet of Jimmy Wayne Yang.

FA forget about wrestling training,just grow your hair out and buy some hooters and a job is yours:whatever::csad:

The FallenAngel

11-02-2006, 03:04 PM

FA forget about wrestling training,just grow your hair out and buy some hooters and a job is yours:whatever::csad:All this training I do is for nothing? And I was gonna get a haircut this weekend...:csad:

The Apatow Crew

11-02-2006, 03:05 PM

Just what the hell is the purpose of Diva Search besides to annoy the hell out of everyone if there just gonna hire most of these woman anyway?

Vince stop thinking with that one head and think with your other one.

The FallenAngel

11-02-2006, 03:09 PM

Ring of Honor's Glory By Honor V Night 1 and Night 2 DVDs are available now. They also brought back the original CM Punk shirts they had. :up:

The Punisher

11-02-2006, 03:12 PM

I can see a Hardcore Holly deal happening with him. If they cut the Marine crap.....

Then again they might have Punk become his personal *****. :csad:

I hope Punk would kick his ass if he ever got the chance. :o

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 03:14 PM

All this training I do is for nothing? And I was gonna get a haircut this weekend...:csad:

It's all fruitless,save your haircut money and buy a boob job:csad:

Prognosticator

11-02-2006, 03:37 PM

Speaking of Divas, when's the "winner" of this year's contest going to start showing her, uh, "face"....for that matter, when's she going to start doing other, uh, "publicity" for wwe???

enterthemadness

11-02-2006, 03:54 PM

http://www.sescoops.com/artman/publish/article_5617.shtml

Sounds good. But WWE will probably show way too much info about the movie. WWE should just let LGF promote it. Doubt it will make much more than 15 or 20 million.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=condemned.htm

Action...thought it was horror. Like horror/action. Like Predator.

The Sage

11-02-2006, 04:05 PM

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/47110/Claudio-Castagnoli-Gets-WWE-Developmental-Offer.htm

ROH Tag Team Champion gets offer...

ROH Tag Team Champion Claudio Castagnoli has been offered a WWE developmental deal. WWE was impressed with his tryout in Deep South Wrestling a few weeks back. Whether he accepts the offer remains to be seen.

Credit: PWInsider.com

The FallenAngel

11-02-2006, 04:16 PM

Figured that would happen. And since Vince apparently likes Hero as well, we'll probably be seeing them on TV eventually. KOW will conquer the WWE next! :cmad:

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 04:19 PM

Ring of Honor's Glory By Honor V Night 1 and Night 2 DVDs are available now. They also brought back the original CM Punk shirts they had. :up:

I need them both:csad:

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http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9604/products205114uw9.jpg

The Sage

11-02-2006, 04:20 PM

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/47078/Truth-B-Told-11.02.06:--Better-Off-Indy.htm

Is the WWE a dream come true, or a dream come screwed?

The WWE must think this is the off-season because they are scouting free agents like crazy. First it's Colt Cabana, Claudio Castagnoli and Monty Brown. Then word gets out that they may be interested in Chris Hero, after someone saw a tape of his word in England, and now the latest rumor is Bob Sapp?? So between Bobby Lashley, Monty Brown, and Bob Sapp, I think we can all surmise that Vince has a sweet tooth, and the only cure is mounds and mounds of chocolate. Hmm…that may either be a joke about Black wrestlers…or Vince having a fetish for being **** on. Either one works here. Something odd I thought was when it was reported that someone had to see a tape of Hero in England, I mean, doesn't Vince have guys checking out the Indy and international scenes as a full-time job? How hard could it be? You could hire a damn teenager to keep tabs on the Indy scene and pay them in DVD's and autographed Diva lingerie pics. Hell, I'd sign up for a year for a copy of "Royal Rumble" and a hummer from Mickie James. But I digress. Vince himself probably doesn't know KENTA from Senshi or Roderick Strong from Andy Roddick. I'm sure he's still trying to get Johnny Ace to sign that hot Puro free agent people keep talking about, Benny Hana.

One could argue that Vince is merely looking for the best "prospects" around, knowing that with attrition, as long as a few guys pan out then the other dozen or so that don't weren't any great loss. Another argument is that Vince didn't want to play with those toys until someone else decided they wanted to. But the real question is: Does Vince end up just breaking those toys in the end? Let's look at some of the guys Vince has signed off the Indy circuit in the past 3 or so years and see how they've done. Keep in mind guys like Cena, Orton, Batista, etc. basically grew up in OVW and weren't on the Indy circuit long enough to be established stars, hence there is no way to know how good they really were before Vince got his "choco-holic" hands on them. So we'll go in descending order from the guys who benefited the most from Vince's ownership…I mean, influence, to those who might have been better off in the Indys.

Carlito

Give the Devil his due, Carlito is one of the best examples of the WWE taking a fairly well known Indy talent (or International in Carlito's case) and elevating him to a new level in the WWE. Well that is if you consider going from being a multi-time champion in one federation to a mid-carder on a grander scale. In the WWC (World Wrestling Council) in Puerto Rico, Carlito was the 8 time Universal Title holder. Beating Ray Gonzalez 3 times, Vampiro, Sabu, Konnan, and Bronco. He also held the Tag Titles there twice with his brother Eddie and with Konnan. In the WWE he beat John Cena for the U.S. title in his Smackdown debut and beat Shelton Benjamin for the I.C. title on his RAW debut. Then he…um… feuded with Shelton…and teamed with and then feuded with Chris Masters…for like a week. Then he…um… turned face and kissed Trish Stratus and….er…um… jobbed to Randy Orton…well maybe he should debut on ECW so he'd get another title.

Okay, granted, the booking gods haven't been so kind to Carlito but the man has been recognized as being in the next generation of superstars to take WWE to the next decade. He also has been embraced by the IWC and many are looking at him as a near lock to hold a big belt in the near future. While some in Puerto Rico may not look at the Intercontinental and U.S. titles as a step up…the rest of the wrestling world does. I've never actually heard anyone say, "Sure, he's the U.S. champ…but that don't mean **** compared to the Madagascan Champ…I'm talkin' Mad-a-gas-car". Or have I? The ‘e' managed to actually elevate a guy, although perhaps not as much as he could be, and not totally limit his potential at the same time. Then again, raise of hands for those hoping while he was teaming with Masters he would have stolen the "Afro Ram" from D-Ray3000? While Carlito's promos have become fewer and far between, his in-ring work has undoubtedly improved. Good job Vinny Mac.

CM Punk

The IWC Messiah for so many years, the straight edge Indy legend was being wooed by both TNA and WWE. Who knew that the WWE was the right place for him to go. ECW is actually a great fit for him…as a heel. Problem is that he's a face right now, and this is the ‘new' WWECW and right now he's stuck in mid-card hell on ECW. His programs with Justin Credible, Shannon Moore, and now Mike Knox isn't exactly setting the world a blaze. Problem is the guys he should be going after, RVD, Sabu, and Sandman are all faces so unless he goes heel he really has no compelling feuds. Other than that he's been relegated to garbage time duty while jobbing out every wrestler that ECW ever decided should have extended vignettes for prior to debuting.

Punk's straight edge gimmick has been kept fairly intact although like I said before a heel turn would work nicely in him going after known boozers and abusers in the form of the rest of the ECW originals. Maybe then we wouldn't keep getting the same cookie cutter matches each week. Also I hate how neither of the announcers seem to know what part of the body the ‘Anaconda Vice' really works as a submission hold. To their credit however, WWECW has made CM Punk look like the heir to the ECW throne in his vignettes, mic work, and ability to job out seemingly everyone not wearing a sweater vest. My greatest fear was that CM Punk would end up being a cartoonish version of his Indy gimmick and basically end up becoming Stevie Richard's Right to Censor character. Which also would have been cool in a way…Punk dressed as a Jehovah's Witness?? "Excuse me…have you opened your heart and let Jesus Christ into your heart? No? Well hope about opening up your ass so I can put my boot in it." Hmm…then again, maybe I just stumbled into Punk's and Maria's scripted foreplay. Just replace the word ‘boot' with the word…uh…nevermind. WWE has a potential winner on their hands if they can do something, ANYTHING to advance his character and give him someone decent to feud with. And for God's sake, bring back the TV title already if you're not going to give RVD the belt back for Punk to go after. Or…at least the Webcast Title. Let's get 2006 here people.

Mickie James

She went from wrestling all over the country to being Raven's back up in TNA to being CM Punk's personal nut rag, to becoming the most compelling new Diva in years, to becoming an after thought in the new unfocused Women's division on RAW and being the Demi Moore to Ken Doane's Ashton Kutcher. Quite a couple of years for the former Alexis Laree. To be honest, going from being Punk's nut rag to Ken Doane may or may not be a step down depending on how the next year plays out. Could be worse…at least she's ****in' the best Spirit Squader out of the bunch. Imagine the poor skank who has to fake it for Mitch every week? Poor Nicky. Anyhow, Mickie James rise from being an Indy main stay to being one of the top two divas on a national stage. Then sunk back to relative obscurity amongst a slew of untalented bimbos on RAW, who also is inexplicably a ‘face' now. Well I'm going to give the ‘e' points on at least making her a house hold name. However I think the real credit goes to Mickie's ability to play a convincing lesbian psycho, having a ‘serious' badunkadunk, and giving us one of the most memorable Wrestlemania moments that will never be seen on DVD.

Paul London

Former student of HBK's, RoH graduate, and well traveled Indy high flyer, London took his game to the WWE and ended up capturing some gold, Cruiserweight AND 2-time Tag Champion. Too bad his style has been fairly stunted in the WWE as he's been relatively grounded and has had to rely on his A.S.S. to compete in the tag ranks. Shackling the best "Shooting Star Press" in wrestling just seems criminal. London has gotten some run in the CW division…when they had one, and currently has held the Tag Titles for a good long while. Currently The Hooliganz have been feuding with the Teacher's Pets along with….um….yeah. The Tag Division on Smackdown is as sparse as the CW division. London has at least done well outside of his ‘losing streak' gimmick and if he could get back to his ‘high risk' ways would be a lot better off. Well at least he's no worse than he'd be on the Indy circuit. Plus, with less risky moves, I'm sure his career will be extended for at least a few more years. Well, a few more years of underachieving.

Melina

Melina Perez went from a Tough Enough reject to a Diva in a short amount of time, her SoCal training at UPW and EWF got her ready for her in-ring work which…never really materialized on Smackdown. Lately she's seen some in-ring action but it's clear her ring rust and lack of opportunity to practice has hindered her. Melina is one of the most well known Divas right now, but clearly if the ‘e' gave a **** about the women's division they would concentrate on Victoria, Mickie, Beth Pheonix, Lita, and Melina. Well regardless of if she ever becomes a real wrestler or just eye candy Melina's rise to stardom can be traced to one source…dat ASS!! Yeah, WWE be damned, that entrance of hers is top notch. Highlighting an ass I'd gladly eat breakfast off of, and a rack I'd take my milk and cookies on.

Matt Striker

From relative obscurity on the Indy scene Matt Striker (not to be confused with the unibrowed ‘Matt Stryker' of RoH infamy) gained notoriety for being fired from his job as a school teacher. Sexual misconduct? Inappropratiate relations with a student? Selling bootleg copies of the teacher's edition of calculus? Nope. He took a few too many sick days instead of ‘vacation days'. Matt Striker worked his way up from the lower card on RAW to the mid-card on ECW. Wait? Did I say ‘worked up'?? I guess that's like working up from genital warts to gonorrhea. Never the less Striker has risen to at least a good amount of fame. Too bad as a heel his wrestling ability has been stunted as he has to rely on heel tactics and stalling in order to gain that non-existent heel heat. For the most part however Striker has at least improved his mic work and has a gimmick that fits him perfectly. I think Striker has definitely grown while in the WWECW and if he's every given the go ahead to cut loose a lot of people would be surprised as his athleticism. Definitely a good move for Striker, although I'd love to see him with a valet, perhaps someone like Michelle McCool who would bring teenage boys into the ring and dance for them. Why not?

Mikey

Mike Mondo had made his rounds around the Indys but landed a deal with the WWE out of no where. He possessed none of the typical traits that Vince is usually looking for, namely size and lack of charisma. However he found his way to OVW and then as a member of the Spirit Squad and Tag Team champs. Quite a step up from a guy who was considered ‘solid' if not spectacular. Definitely his stay in the WWE has upped his stock and while one would believe that he is probably on a short list of potential cuts the next time the roster is thinned, the WWE definitely boosted his stock. Well, at least marginally. Maybe after he's released in the future he can get a slightly less gay gimmick like a male figure skater or ‘Hot Dog on a Stick Boy'.

Brian Kendrick

Well…he's a Tag Team Champion. He also got to dress like a turkey one year. And he, um… got to streak after O'Haire told him to. And…that's…about it. At least he got to keep his finisher though, too bad he rarely gets to finish a match with it. then again, would he have been better off on the Indy circuit or in TNA? Doubtful, but I don't see his run in the WWE producing much more than a possible CW title run. And that ain't sayin' much. The thing is though, that Spanky was doing fairly well in Japan as Leonardo Spanky. Named because of his resemblance to a famous ‘Leonardo' who has been in a movie or 3. Yes, you guessed it…the Ninja turtle. In Japan and on the Indy scene Spanky may have made a decent living. Maybe not WWE money, but good enough. Well that's okay, because once Vince decides to drop the CW division for a revamped "Juniors" Division he'll be able to command a little more coin.

Joey Mercury

One half of one of the best tag teams to debut in a while, they even won the Tag Belts. Too bad they were jobbed out to Rey Rey and Batista for some short sided booking, but they won them back. Only to lose them again to the Hooliganz, sadly ‘Wellness' got a hold of Joey Mercury and he hasn't been seen or heard from since. If he doesn't end up back with MNM, he might as well be released because as a singles worker, he is the steak, but not the sizzle. The problem is that without a tag team partner, Joey has about as much personality as Chris Master's foreskin. He could end up on ECW at any time, my hope would be an alliance with CM Punk but I doubt it. Well Joey Matthews was well known on the Indy circuit for years and even spent time in ECW. What going to the WWE got him was his 15 mins of fame and a washed board stomach. Not bad. I just hope he is spending the time away getting better and learning Japanese. His other options seem limited.

The Sage

11-02-2006, 04:21 PM

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/47078/Truth-B-Told-11.02.06:--Better-Off-Indy.htm

Mike Knox

Knox had been kicking around the SoCal Indy scene for sometime and his signing to a WWE Developmental was not a big surprise as he has good size…and girth. Just how Vince likes ‘em. Knox's resemblance to Non from Superman 2 is uncanny. The only difference being Non's superior workrate and promo skills. Knox went from a lumbering hoss on the Indy circuit to a … just cut and paste that and change "Indy circuit" to "ECW". He'll also end up being CM Punk's ***** sooner than later, but at least he gets Kelly Kelly as a valet for the time being. Even if Test is actually giving her the "Test Drive" behind the scenes. Knox didn't have much going for him prior to his signing and, well, after all is said and done and he ends up forming a foot fetish tag team with Snitsky before he's cut he'll leave with pretty much the same.

Great Khali

It could be worse right? I mean, who else gets to fell the Undertaker with a single overhand chop? Right? He was a raw talent that no one but a Japanese fed coud love. When your biggest accomplishment is killing a man in the ring, well…where can you really go but down? Well he terrorized the Smackdown cruiserweights as well as workrates for a few months and God help us if he's on ECW now. Hmm, how soon till we end up with a Big Show / Great Khali feud that no one asked for? Stay tuned!! Just kidding, turn the ****in' channel and RUUUUUUUUN. RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!

Sylvester Turkay

Another SoCal talent, this is one tough Turkay. The man was known as "Predator" in UPW and was known for his bruising style and menacing size. What he was unknown for was his fetish for ****ting on amputee hookers while dressed up like a fireman and screaming "why won't you hug me mommy…WHYYYY??" Lil' known fact. Go ahead and share that with your friends. Basically Turkay's career in the WWE has consisted of 3 or 4 squash matches and one of the worst movesets in the industry. MMA doesn't work when you're squashing cruisers. Well, not that he had a great career prior but he definitely hasn't done much better for himself. I'm sure that'll all change in WWECW right? *rolls eyes* Why do I feel like WWECW is quickly becoming the land of misfit toys? I'm fully expecting Turkay to go away and come back as a wrestler with a crocodile head and mismatched arms and legs. Like when my brother used to ‘play God' with our G.I. Joe's back in the day. Although, Scarlet's rack looked mighty fetching on Heavy Metal's frame.

Paul Birchall

He kicked around the Indys for a while, mostly in England. He always had a ‘good prospect' label coming up, especially for someone who was athletic as he was for his size. He spent some time with Regal, which was nothing but good. Then became a pirate…which was….something. then as soon as he was starting to get over…he got hurt and now, no one knows. Well my hope is he hooks back up with Regal or teams with Harry Smith, but for now, he's kinda in purgatory. The saving grace in all this is that this Halloween seems to be the year of the pirate and Pauly already had a jump on the competition. The chances of him coming back to steal away Krystal Marshall from The Miz, as a bumbling Englishman is high, just watch out for any hints. If Michael Cole starts calling her "The Devine" Krystall Marshall… the jig is up.

Jillian Hall

"The Bombshell" Macaela Mercedes spent most of career prior to the WWE in the now defunct GLORY promotion. She then got signed to a developmental contract which also entailed other…"Developments" happening in her boobular region. Jillian was known as a great athlete in OVW, even hitting a 450 splash as her finisher. I have no clue what she finishes with now. She debuted with a nasty piece of **** on her face and luckily…I guess, was attacked by the boogeyman and her ‘mole' was bitten off. Yeah, after reading that, I can't believe the creative writing staff thought that would be the best way to debut a big tittied blonde ***** who can actually wrestle. To her credit Jillian is probably the best wrestler left on Smackdown, to her discredit, nobody gives a ****.

MVP

The former, Antonio Banks, spent a lot of time in FIP, NWA Florida, and RoH among various other East Coast Indy scenes. He apparently showed some decent potential on the Indy scene and had an array of aerial and submission moves at his disposal. He also…wrestled for TNA a few times. Um…MVP also is…a…mammal. Uh…he likes…hamburgers. ****, that's all I got on the guy. When Flash Funk shows up and wants his ring gear back we'll all be waiting with baited breath for that feud to culminate in a "Funk-jabi Prison Match" but till then I could give two ****s and a Slim Jim about the guy.

Davari

Well, at least he's wrestling now. Too bad no one is going to see it on ECW. Wait, that's not fair…I meant to say, no one will CARE since it's on ECW. Besides, he has a total of 2 cruiserweights to work with. Once he's feuded with Shannon Moore and Lil' Guido, then what? Elijah Burke I guess in a battle of minorities with big bodyguards. Yay!! What I didn't understand was why Davari, who was expertly working on Moore's hand during his WWECW debut ended up finishing with a DDT. Not sure the logic in letting cruiserweights finish with generic mid-card finishers. What next? The DVD or Roll of the Dice? The important part to all this is now Davari is wrestling so he is finally able to show off his talents…in 3 minute matches. My guess is he'll be a part time wrestler and part time manager once Khali gets well enough to lumber around and beat up guys named Balls and Dreamer. Well at least this is a step up for Davari as he goes from mid-card heel manager to lower card wrestler on ECW. Wait…is that a step up? Let's just pretend it is okay?

Shane Twins

Um…yeah, they went from being wrestling ***** in TNA to…wrestling the ***** on Smackdown. Great. Well good thing they aren't being used yet because a tag team with experience and size would only be useful…EVERYWHERE in the ‘e'. Sheeez.

TNA poachees
Let's not forget about the handful of guys that the "e" have picked up off the TNA mid-card scrap heap as well:

Shannon Moore

One week he beats AJ Styles, the next he's filming his 100th straight vignette before debuting as CM Punk's personal *****. So I guess that means CM Punk > Shannon Moore > AJ Styles. How is that math for ya? The "Prince of Punk" must be a reference to a prison term because Shannon Moore has been getting nothing but ‘Punked' since he arrived back in the WWECW. Well, looks like TNA's loss is ECW's bigger loss after all.

Frankie Kazarian

Going from jobbing to a NASCAR driver to a 4 week long Velocity winning streak? How could you possibly give that up Frankie? Well good news for him as Russo-nomics will ensure he'll have something to do. Will it make sense? Probably not. But his 2 month run in OVW/WE didn't either. He was "The Future" alright, and if he stayed on Smackdown, his future would be looking like a chop to the head by the Great Khali.

Jeff Hardy

IC title holder, back in the spotlight and engaged in the hottest division in the WWE. The RAW mid-card. Not bad for "Rainbow Brite", thank God they haven't let him talk in weeks. Now if they could only get the guy a mouth piece…but first they'd have to take that bong out his mouth. Oddly enough, by virtue of being on RAW instead of SD his move back to the comfy 3.0 ratings of RAW makes this a winning move.

Mikey Batts

In TNA he teamed with Jerrelle Clark as the jobber X-Division tag team NOT involving Shark Boy. In the ‘e' he…well he never made it as he was cut from OVW after they decided not to actually build a CW division. Good thinking Vince, how we can spend more time pushing "The Miz"… off a ****in' cliff!!

Trytan/Ryan Wilson

No clue what the plan is for this guy. He's big, tall, and immobile with no potential to really improve in the ring without almost killing someone like he almost did to Monty Brown in that forgettable feud they had last year. So at some point he either cameos or goes the way of ‘Fake Kane'. Either way, I hope he ends up going the way of….no I mean, just going away.

The Truth

The WWE has done a great job of spotting new talent relatively early and developing them in the past 5 or 6 years. Picking up unknown guys like John Cena, Randy Orton, Batista, Johnny Nitro, Ken Kennedy, and…yeah, okay Chris Masters. The problem is that once they start trying to sign top Indy talent. Well, they just don't know what to do with them most of the time. Carlito has stalled a bit, but his in-ring has gotten back to his pre-WWE days and has load of potential. CM Punk also has great potential, although ECW should only be a stepping stone till he goes to Smackdown. Don't fool yourself, with the HHHBK around there is almost zero chance he'll be on the "A" show. Still I wouldn't be surprised to see CM Punk in the title picture by year's end or even holding the WWECW belt by the end of next year. When it comes to divas the WWE has managed to strike gold with Mickie and Melina who otherwise may have ended up still roaming the Indy circuit, sticking to fitness modeling, or doing softcore on Cinemax….or hardcore in Hustler in Mickie's case. Hey, wait a sec….DAMN that Vince.

It's a duel edge sword to sign with the WWE because you get greater exposure than anywhere else in wrestling, however there haven't been any wrestlers who have gotten to utilize their talents to the fullest due to the ‘WWE Style' they have to adapt to. I would probably never suggest to an Indy wrestler I would probably never suggest to an Indy wrestler to pass up the WWE unless they had a lucrative deal with TNA or even in Japan on the table. Like it or lump it, the WWE is almost every wrestler's dream for a reason. to pass up the WWE unless they had a lucrative deal with TNA or even in Japan on the table. Like it or lump it, the WWE is almost every wrestler's dream for a reason. The sad thing is that most of these guys improve very little in their ring work, but at least they get a chance to ply their trade to a greater audience as well as work on their mic skills. Or in The Great Khali's case, his incoherent growling. I'm still convinced his promos are perfectly witty and well executed, the only problem is he's delivering them in Cambodian. I'm sure somewhere Low Ki is slowly clapping…building up the tempo…and now…standing on his feet.

My greatest fear is that the Kings of Wrestling will be separated and each given ridiculous gimmicks. Also Monty will end up as Lashley's ‘older brother' and end up being Harlem Heat 2K7. Its to the point where some guys will never be well known until they hit the "e" but after they are, their fans who supported them in the Indies won't even recognize them. Still, you gotta follow your dream, and if you never try to make it to a sold out Madison Square Garden, then what really are you wrestling for? I just hope one day, someone emerges from the muck of the creative writing staff that might just figure out that guys who are successful on the Indy circuit, might just translate over to the big stage without a complete overhaul. Who needs Colt Cabana to become a serious mute bounty hunter to get over? Who wants Bryan Danielson to portray a magical wizard on Monday nights? And who wants Rebecca Knox to get ridiculously large breasts and start traipsing around a ring wearing nothing more than a thong and bra while wrestling around with other mostly …naked….oiled up….chicks who..um…on second thought…

zer00

11-02-2006, 04:37 PM

The cast includes former WWE wrestler Nathan Jones - as simply The Russian

Nash will be pissed:o

Prognosticator

11-02-2006, 04:55 PM

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/47078/Truth-B-Told-11.02.06:--Better-Off-Indy.htm

Mickie James

She went from wrestling all over the country to being Raven's back up in TNA to being CM Punk's personal nut rag, to becoming the most compelling new Diva in years, to becoming an after thought in the new unfocused Women's division on RAW and being the Demi Moore to Ken Doane's Ashton Kutcher. Quite a couple of years for the former Alexis Laree. To be honest, going from being Punk's nut rag to Ken Doane may or may not be a step down depending on how the next year plays out. Could be worse…at least she's ****in' the best Spirit Squader out of the bunch. Imagine the poor skank who has to fake it for Mitch every week? Poor Nicky. Anyhow, Mickie James rise from being an Indy main stay to being one of the top two divas on a national stage. Then sunk back to relative obscurity amongst a slew of untalented bimbos on RAW, who also is inexplicably a ‘face' now. Well I'm going to give the ‘e' points on at least making her a house hold name. However I think the real credit goes to Mickie's ability to play a convincing lesbian psycho, having a ‘serious' badunkadunk, and giving us one of the most memorable Wrestlemania moments that will never be seen on DVD.

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I know what you mean there but what do you 'mean'? Literally, what does that mean? Was she just a fluffer slut, or were they an item for some time?

But yeah, the WM moment...when she licked her hand and .... yeah, ouch for Trish!

The Apatow Crew

11-02-2006, 05:05 PM

Licked her hand and what?

Is it something naughty? if so pm please.:woot: :yay:

Prognosticator

11-02-2006, 05:11 PM

Licked her hand and what?

Is it something naughty? if so pm please.:woot: :yay:

Did you not watch last spring's WrestleMania?!??

The Apatow Crew

11-02-2006, 05:17 PM

Did you not watch last spring's WrestleMania?!??No i didn't. That's why i'm asking.

Hunter Rider

11-02-2006, 05:32 PM

CM Punk

The IWC Messiah for so many years, the straight edge Indy legend was being wooed by both TNA and WWE. Who knew that the WWE was the right place for him to go. ECW is actually a great fit for him…as a heel. Problem is that he's a face right now, and this is the ‘new' WWECW and right now he's stuck in mid-card hell on ECW. His programs with Justin Credible, Shannon Moore, and now Mike Knox isn't exactly setting the world a blaze. Problem is the guys he should be going after, RVD, Sabu, and Sandman are all faces so unless he goes heel he really has no compelling feuds. Other than that he's been relegated to garbage time duty while jobbing out every wrestler that ECW ever decided should have extended vignettes for prior to debuting.

Punk's straight edge gimmick has been kept fairly intact although like I said before a heel turn would work nicely in him going after known boozers and abusers in the form of the rest of the ECW originals. Maybe then we wouldn't keep getting the same cookie cutter matches each week. Also I hate how neither of the announcers seem to know what part of the body the ‘Anaconda Vice' really works as a submission hold. To their credit however, WWECW has made CM Punk look like the heir to the ECW throne in his vignettes, mic work, and ability to job out seemingly everyone not wearing a sweater vest. My greatest fear was that CM Punk would end up being a cartoonish version of his Indy gimmick and basically end up becoming Stevie Richard's Right to Censor character. Which also would have been cool in a way…Punk dressed as a Jehovah's Witness?? "Excuse me…have you opened your heart and let Jesus Christ into your heart? No? Well hope about opening up your ass so I can put my boot in it." Hmm…then again, maybe I just stumbled into Punk's and Maria's scripted foreplay. Just replace the word ‘boot' with the word…uh…nevermind. WWE has a potential winner on their hands if they can do something, ANYTHING to advance his character and give him someone decent to feud with. And for God's sake, bring back the TV title already if you're not going to give RVD the belt back for Punk to go after. Or…at least the Webcast Title. Let's get 2006 here people.

He has a point BUT Punks new style as the second class KENTA doesn't lend itself to being a heel as he is all offence
His old style which was a young Ric Flair meets the US indies style is much better suited to that

Paul London

Former student of HBK's, RoH graduate, and well traveled Indy high flyer, London took his game to the WWE and ended up capturing some gold, Cruiserweight AND 2-time Tag Champion. Too bad his style has been fairly stunted in the WWE as he's been relatively grounded and has had to rely on his A.S.S. to compete in the tag ranks. Shackling the best "Shooting Star Press" in wrestling just seems criminal. London has gotten some run in the CW division…when they had one, and currently has held the Tag Titles for a good long while. Currently The Hooliganz have been feuding with the Teacher's Pets along with….um….yeah. The Tag Division on Smackdown is as sparse as the CW division. London has at least done well outside of his ‘losing streak' gimmick and if he could get back to his ‘high risk' ways would be a lot better off. Well at least he's no worse than he'd be on the Indy circuit. Plus, with less risky moves, I'm sure his career will be extended for at least a few more years. Well, a few more years of underachieving.

Brian Kendrick

Well…he's a Tag Team Champion. He also got to dress like a turkey one year. And he, um… got to streak after O'Haire told him to. And…that's…about it. At least he got to keep his finisher though, too bad he rarely gets to finish a match with it. then again, would he have been better off on the Indy circuit or in TNA? Doubtful, but I don't see his run in the WWE producing much more than a possible CW title run. And that ain't sayin' much. The thing is though, that Spanky was doing fairly well in Japan as Leonardo Spanky. Named because of his resemblance to a famous ‘Leonardo' who has been in a movie or 3. Yes, you guessed it…the Ninja turtle. In Japan and on the Indy scene Spanky may have made a decent living. Maybe not WWE money, but good enough. Well that's okay, because once Vince decides to drop the CW division for a revamped "Juniors" Division he'll be able to command a little more coin.

What does this guy want ? they are both very small and working in the CW even when it was booming in WCW was never gonna make you the same money as haivng a Tag title,that's why Rey,Eddie,Benoit,Dean and Jericho moved up to facing Heavyweights

Kendrick and London are young,lets see where they go when the team is split