Wrestling

[Spider-Fan]

Just give it a bit. It took JBL a while to find his groove as a main event champion as well remember.....

But he had charisma, and was funny right from the start. Batista doesn't have those qualities, nor any desirable qualities.

[John Constantine]

Watch, Triple H will make it a triple threat match at the next RAW PPV.

Or maybe not even that. An early promotional poster for the next Raw PPV was Batista vs Triple H in a Hell in the Cell match. Of course things could change, but there's still like 2 months left before the PPV, enough time for one of the remaining four to get their title shot, lose, and allow Triple H to be number one contender again.....

[Hunter Rider]

They're not really gonna know that until they try though. That's really the only problem I have with Triple H. He's been in the damn spotlight on Raw since the rosters broke. It's always been about him, even when he doesn't have the title. When it was given to Goldberg, Benoit, or Orton, it wasn't about those guys having a title reign, the show revolved around Triple H not having the title and his attempts to regain it.


Just for once I would love to see Batista vs Edge or Shawn or anybody headline a PPV.....

I agree,i'd like to see a fresh champion,it's just Batista is so limited both on the mic and in the ring i'm not sure buissness wise they will risk it,I think when the rosters split we will see Batista vs Angle but i honestly feel guys like Shelton,Christian and Orton are the way forward

[John Constantine]

But he had charisma, and was funny right from the start. Batista doesn't have those qualities, nor any desirable qualities.

Not really. I considered him a real bore at the beginning, even when he won the title. It wasn't around Summerslam or even the fall that he really started to find his niche as a "wrestling god"

[John Constantine]

I agree,i'd like to see a fresh champion,it's just Batista is so limited both on the mic and in the ring i'm not sure buissness wise they will risk it,I think when the rosters split we will see Batista vs Angle but i honestly feel guys like Shelton,Christian and Orton are the way forward

Oh, definitely. Those three, and even Benoit and Jericho deserve the title more. But for now, I'll see how Batista does as champion. I just hope they don't prematurely end his title run like they did with Orton.

[Spider-Fan]

I am with on that he should face someone else for the title. I think, since the Triple H and Batista rivalry is still going, that his next opponent will be either Edge, or they'll extend the rivalry and wait for Orton to come back.

[Hunter Rider]

Not really. I considered him a real bore at the beginning, even when he won the title. It wasn't around Summerslam or even the fall that he really started to find his niche as a "wrestling god"

I think JBL is a great character butter mediocre wrestler,theyve made him a sort of joke with all the run-ins and cheap wins but he is a decent champ for a stop-gap,but its time to see guys with charisma and talent with the belt

[John Constantine]

I am with on that he should face someone else for the title. I think, since the Triple H and Batista rivalry is still going, that his next opponent will be either Edge, or they'll extend the rivalry and wait for Orton to come back.

I would definitely love to see Edge be Batista's opponent, with Lita as his new escort of course. I want to see something new on Raw rather than Triple H headlining each time. I don't really care who it may be. Hell, it could be Batista vs Viscera for all I care, I just want something different and Triple H to focus his attention on something other than the world's title :mad:

[John Constantine]

I think JBL is a great character butter mediocre wrestler,theyve made him a sort of joke with all the run-ins and cheap wins but he is a decent champ for a stop-gap,but its time to see guys with charisma and talent with the belt

That's kind of a sign of a heel champion though, doing whatever you can to keep your title.

I'm hoping they give a heel Eddie Guerrero a decent title run though. He definitely deserves it. And as a heel, he doesn't have to worry about carrying the company like he was forced to last year.....

[Hunter Rider]

Oh, definitely. Those three, and even Benoit and Jericho deserve the title more. But for now, I'll see how Batista does as champion. I just hope they don't prematurely end his title run like they did with Orton.

oh i think Batista deserves a chance its just at 39 i can't see him getting ny better,I also would like to see Shawn get another run but i think WWE feel him and Angle create main events without the belt so they put it on guys that need it to feel main event

[Weadazoid]

Do any of you post over at Prowrestling.com

Very simmilar kind of forum to this one.

http://forums.prowrestling.com/index.php?

[Spider-Fan]

Maybe we could have a Triple H and Angle rivalry while Batista continues his reign and faces Edge. I am glad they have made Edge a main eventer. Although his whinny voice is annoying, he has great in ring ability. Plus, I like the "Mr. Money in the Bank" angle.

[John Constantine]

oh i think Batista deserves a chance its just at 39 i can't see him getting ny better,I also would like to see Shawn get another run but i think WWE feel him and Angle create main events without the belt so they put it on guys that need it to feel main event

Yeah, I don't think he's a long-term champion. Just a transition champion until they can get an Orton or a Christian or a Benjamin ready to be the number 1 face champion.....

[John Constantine]

Maybe we could have a Triple H and Angle rivalry while Batista continues his reign and faces Edge. I am glad they have made Edge a main eventer. Although his whinny voice is annoying, he has great in ring ability. Plus, I like the "Mr. Money in the Bank" angle.

I wouldn't mind that.

Except I would prefer Edge as low-life heel rather than Mr. Money in the Bank ;)

[Spider-Fan]

I feel that Benjamin's push is coming when he loses the IC title, probably to someone like Hassan.

[Hunter Rider]

That's kind of a sign of a heel champion though, doing whatever you can to keep your title.

I'm hoping they give a heel Eddie Guerrero a decent title run though. He definitely deserves it. And as a heel, he doesn't have to worry about carrying the company like he was forced to last year.....

definately,a heel Eddie would do wonders for cena as well,in fact cena is gonna get a chance to improve with feuds against eddie and Cfristian this year,personally i'd love to see christian as champ,he's on the cusp of it right now,the fans would accept him i just hope wwe doesn't drop the ball and not capitolise on the chance

[Spider-Fan]

Captain Charisma would make a good champion.

[John Constantine]

definately,a heel Eddie would do wonders for cena as well,in fact cena is gonna get a chance to improve with feuds against eddie and Cfristian this year,personally i'd love to see christian as champ,he's on the cusp of it right now,the fans would accept him i just hope wwe doesn't drop the ball and not capitolise on the chance

I'm just hoping they don't pussy him out like they did with Cena......

[Hunter Rider]

I'm just hoping they don't pussy him out like they did with Cena......

yeah i say keep him heel as he is right now,don't do what they did with orton when they made to quick with the face turn,with Benjamin i'm wondering whether he'll be a face or heel champ,he should be a face IMO but he's not getting a lot of crowd support right now:(

[Hunter Rider]

I'm just hoping they don't pussy him out like they did with Cena......

yeah i say keep him heel as he is right now,don't do what they did with orton when they made to quick with the face turn,with Benjamin i'm wondering whether he'll be a face or heel champ,he should be a face IMO but he's not getting a lot of crowd support right now:(

[Hunter Rider]

I'm just hoping they don't pussy him out like they did with Cena......

yeah i say keep him heel as he is right now,don't do what they did with orton when they made to quick with the face turn,with Benjamin i'm wondering whether he'll be a face or heel champ,he should be a face IMO but he's not getting a lot of crowd support right now:(

[John Constantine]

yeah i say keep him heel as he is right now,don't do what they did with orton when they made to quick with the face turn,with Benjamin i'm wondering whether he'll be a face or heel champ,he should be a face IMO but he's not getting a lot of crowd support right now:(

I actually think a heel turn might do wonders for Benjamin.....it could really help him build up some mic skills.

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, I have no clue why he is getting no fan support. Benjamin is one of the best wrestlers to watch. That HBK vs. Benjamin match on RAW was great.

[Hunter Rider]

I actually think a heel turn might do wonders for Benjamin.....it could really help him build up some mic skills.

thats the only part of his game he needs to perfet,im just hoping that if they turn him heel they won't stop him doing his awesome moves.Let him be like HBK was as a heel champion,cocky and arrogant cos he knows how good he is,not making him suddenly need to cheat to win every match

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I have no clue why he is getting no fan support. Benjamin is one of the best wrestlers to watch. That HBK vs. Benjamin match on RAW was great.

i think the reason is that the core of wwe audiences don't appreciate talent as much as they do a guy with a catchy line and big muscles:(

[Spider-Fan]

It is sad, but true.

[Spider-Fan]

A man who has been way underused is Simon Dean. From the few matches he had where he actually looked like he had a chance, he looked like he had talent. They need to use him more.

[John Constantine]

A man who has been way underused is Simon Dean. From the few matches he had where he actually looked like he had a chance, he looked like he had talent. They need to use him more.

He was supposed to be very good as Nova in ECW. Like an incredible innovator of offence. But sadly, they limited his wrestling style.....:(

[Spider-Fan]

He's been around for a while now, and I don't think he has ever used a finishing manuever. That is sad. I read about his days as Nova, and I want to see him do more.

[Hunter Rider]

He's been around for a while now, and I don't think he has ever used a finishing manuever. That is sad. I read about his days as Nova, and I want to see him do more.

Ive seen his days as Nova.he was explosive and had some amazingly inventive moves,For instance the vertabreaKer that hurricane used in WCW was invented by him........now he's a fitness instructor:rolleyes:

[3dman27]

i think the reason is that the core of wwe audiences don't appreciate talent as much as they do a guy with a catchy line and big muscles:(
yeah thats why nora greenwald[molly]left now with trish hospitalized,[after viscera's body slam backfired i take it]theres nobody to take on trish if victoria's gone heel against christy :ff:

[Hunter Rider]

yeah thats why nora greenwald[molly]left now with trish hospitalized,[after viscera's body slam backfired i take it]theres nobody to take on trish if victoria's gone heel against christy :ff:

The viscera thing was just a stunt,She didn't really get hurt,Trish has had Back problems for a while and needs rest,The Viscera squish was just used as an angle to tek her out the show for a while

[3dman27]

i'm glad it was just a storline angle for trish's sake

[Hunter Rider]

i'm glad it was just a storline angle for trish's sake

yeah,i wonder what they'll do with the belt while she's gone

[3dman27]

yeah i hope they use the 30 day rule to keep it away from christy i'd rather see LILIAN GARCIA hold the belt than little ms contest winner

[Hunter Rider]

lol,Christy to me is best used like Stacy as a sexy announcer or valet,Thing is who will Victoria fight when she gets the belt ? the WWE sacked all the best female wrestlers:confused:

[3dman27]

lol,Christy to me is best used like Stacy as a sexy announcer or valet,Thing is who will Victoria fight when she gets the belt ? the WWE sacked all the best female wrestlers:confused:
yeah thats what i'm griping about :hyper: :hyper:

[lmaotan]

kane is not the current one b4

[kane9321]

is my victoria hurt?..i havent seen her wrestle in a long time..she better get the belt back...and as for skank christy..she better not be in the postion to win anything...nor for a while at least

[Hunter Rider]

kane is not the current one b4

I'm not sure what you mean but Glenn Jacobs has always been Kane

[Weadazoid]

Yeah kane is Kane, he may not have his mask, but it is the same guy, He alos at one point had a Dentist persona, and at one time he was Diesel 2 (LOL)

[3dman27]

is my victoria hurt?..i havent seen her wrestle in a long time..she better get the belt back...and as for skank christy..she better not be in the postion to win anything...nor for a while at least
she and val venus wrestle molly and maven last month

[John Constantine]

lol,Christy to me is best used like Stacy as a sexy announcer or valet,Thing is who will Victoria fight when she gets the belt ? the WWE sacked all the best female wrestlers:confused:

Is Mole Lady from OVW a female wrestler or just a valet? :confused:


I can't believe I just said that....mole lady :rolleyes: :mad: :(

[kane9321]

issac yankem...dds

[Jason Blood]

I wonder what MNM's Flapjack/DDT will be called

I can't really think of anything

[Spider-Fan]

JBL vs Cena I Quit! That I want to see. Hopefully, I went be let down like at Wrestlemania when JBL was out of character, and told the cabinet to leave.

[Savage]

Man, Eddie has freakin lost it. They're taking this lyin', cheatin', n' stealin thing to a whole new level. There's no explaination for it except 'It's what he does'. I'm really liking this turn of events. A Psycho Eddie. Diggin it.:cool:

[John Constantine]

I'm hoping this new change in attitude means he'll go back to his old theme music :up:


Yeah, I'm a whore for that theme music, but still, it rocks a lot :o

[3dman27]

Is Mole Lady from OVW a female wrestler or just a valet? :confused:


I can't believe I just said that....mole lady :rolleyes: :mad: :(i think shes a valet ans as i understand itshe'll be on SMACKDOWN not raw

[trombonemaestro]

I wonder what MNM's Flapjack/DDT will be called

I can't really think of anything

Last night when they robbed Scotty 2 Hotty they called it a Snapshot.

[DarkHellRider]

I am sp upset that I missed the hbk hulk hogan team up match it makes me want to cry.

[HillValley85]

Did anyone see the new John Cena video? It was funny and cool. I just wished it came sooner.

[Hunter Rider]

FROM WZJim Ross has offered Bret Hart and current TNA booker Dusty Rhodes spots in the 2006 class of hall of fame inductees.

Hart told Ross that he would consider the offer. Hart is currently involved a legal battle with the Lloyds of London insurance company. Hart is owed $800,000. Lloyds of London is claiming that Hart had a history of concussions prior to his career ending injury suffered in a match with Bill Goldberg.

[John Constantine]

It would be great if Hart was part of the Hall of Fame induction next year. Put him in with Steve Austin as well. It'll be kinda nostalgic considering WM 22 is taking place in Chicago and it was there that Hart and Austin had that kickass match....

[kane9321]

aww jesus,smackdown was just awful lastnite..hated it(melina made it tolerable).So let me get this straight, will booker T's "wife" be involved in his crappy storylines.."let me slap kurt a few times....oh no hes coming after me I run awww i FALL"..TOTAL B.S.The john cena video and song was crap,and why was he screaming at JBL..christ he's right in front of u cena!.Next garbage ass carlito beating hardcore holly. that was a joke in itself....what a wasteful smackdown this was!!

[Go Web Go!]

Smackdown has BEEN a waste and I'm sure it'll get no better with Angle switching to RAW and The Undertaker on the sideline with an injury.

[godofdomains]

I watch wrestling for 15 year. But It seems to be fake.

[Savage]

I watch wrestling for 15 year. But It seems to be fake.
..........God I hope you're joking. If so, hilarious. LOL.:D

[Sabretooth]

Daivari should go to SD!

And when is Mysterio's ''huge push'' happening?

[Savage]

Daivari should go to SD!

And when is Mysterio's ''huge push'' happening?
Now appearantly. He's been main eventing the past few weeks. Eventually he'll get a shot at Cena I'm guessing when this JBL crap is done.

[Go Web Go!]

Now appearantly. He's been main eventing the past few weeks. Eventually he'll get a shot at Cena I'm guessing when this JBL crap is done.

Perfect. They can turn Cena heel. His reason being that the fans didn't go out and buy his cd. :)

[Savage]

HA! That could probably work. Calling the fans a bunch of wannabes or something...Or knowing the WWE, he takes over JBL's group or joins him or some retarded crap like that. Ever since Katie Vick I don't even know anymore.

[Jason Blood]

Rey getting pushed is annoying

I don't know if the WWE has EVER dropped him

they can drop the CWs but they'll never drop him unless any one of their new recruits replaces him

I can't wait for all of the new guys to debut and I'm betting Paul London will either be in a tag match with Mysterio vs. Los Guerreros or a Cruiserweight Invitational where the new guys will debut at the smackdown PPV

[Jason Blood]

before I forget

I'm going to buy the John Cena CD for my friend (just to see how pissed off he gets at me)

[Spider-Fan]

HA! That could probably work. Calling the fans a bunch of wannabes or something...Or knowing the WWE, he takes over JBL's group or joins him or some retarded crap like that. Ever since Katie Vick I don't even know anymore.

Yeah, that Katie Vick bit was lame. I hope JBL regains the title, because I find him more entertaining than Cena. They both are similar in that their in ring ability isn't great, but they have a lot of charisma. I just think JBL is way more entertaining, mostly because something wacky usually happens in his matches.

[The Techno Bat]

I am really getting tired of a guy getting his ass beat and then coming back like nothing happened.

I think they need to go back to the old school style when a guy hit you, you felt it and really sold the one or two punches, unlike in today's wrestling you can get hit 20 times in a row and rebound like nothing happened

[trombonemaestro]

I watch wrestling for 15 year. But It seems to be fake.

What do you mean it's Fake? I've been watching for 25+years. It can't be fake!!!

Anyway, before the ECW PPV, there is gonna be an ECW invasion on Raw to give a preview.

[Sabretooth]

I wish they'd do something with Dupree.He's so young,and he has charisma,and pretty good in the ring,put they just shelved him after Cena finally beat him 1000000 times.

[Sabretooth]

Rock's back :D :

For those wondering why The Rock's bio is back up on WWE.com, as well as the company wishing The Rock a happy birthday on Raw, it is due to the fact that "The People's Champion" and Vince McMahon mended the rift between them at the post-Wrestlemania party. As of right now, The Rock is on good terms with the company again, and will show up on Raw whenever his movie schedule will allow it.

Credit: PWInsider.com

[The Techno Bat]

I wish they'd do something with Dupree.He's so young,and he has charisma,and pretty good in the ring,put they just shelved him after Cena finally beat him 1000000 times.

The cool thing about Rene Dupree is that he uses Vampiro's finisher.

Your right though, this guy should be pushed a bit more and not treated as a baffoon...

[GLfan]

aww jesus,smackdown was just awful lastnite..hated it(melina made it tolerable).So let me get this straight, will booker T's "wife" be involved in his crappy storylines.."let me slap kurt a few times....oh no hes coming after me I run awww i FALL"..TOTAL B.S.The john cena video and song was crap,and why was he screaming at JBL..christ he's right in front of u cena!.Next garbage ass carlito beating hardcore holly. that was a joke in itself....what a wasteful smackdown this was!!I think the MNM/Scotty too hotie/shannon moore match and the Mysterio/Chavo match made up for it, especially Eddie beating the crap out of Mysterio. :eek: I can't wait for next weeks show.

[The Techno Bat]

Would you have been pissed at Kevin Nash if you were TNA wrestling? He basically gave them short notice before there lockdown PPV that he was filming a movie over seas. They were fine with it, but I know I would have been a bit ticked off!

[Go Web Go!]

The cool thing about Rene Dupree is that he uses Vampiro's finisher.

Your right though, this guy should be pushed a bit more and not treated as a baffoon...

Well, from what I've read the WWE will be keeping him off television for a month or 2 so that they can repackage him and bring him back with a new gimmick (without Fifi)

[U.S War Machine]

yeah i use to watch it back in the day with kane wearing a mask, ken shamrock, Dx, undertaker, all good stuff but now its all changed.

[Go Web Go!]

yeah i use to watch it back in the day with kane wearing a mask, ken shamrock, Dx, undertaker, all good stuff but now its all changed.

Those were the days, :(

[John Constantine]

Would you have been pissed at Kevin Nash if you were TNA wrestling? He basically gave them short notice before there lockdown PPV that he was filming a movie over seas. They were fine with it, but I know I would have been a bit ticked off!

Well TNA did make a mistake in signing Nash. He's like almost 50, can barely wrestle, and honestly, doesn't draw much of a crowd now. Huge waste of money IMO....

[Hunter Rider]

I wonder who's gonna win the Gold rush tournement,My guess would be Edge beating kane in the final with help from Lita,So Batista and Edge can have a match against each other prior to there PPV showdown later ni the year to see if they have any chemistry

[John Constantine]

Well, from what I've read the WWE will be keeping him off television for a month or 2 so that they can repackage him and bring him back with a new gimmick (without Fifi)

That's good. They should really have him change theme music as well. Kinda redundant to have him and La Resistance have the same theme....

[John Constantine]

I wonder who's gonna win the Gold rush tournement,My guess would be Edge beating kane in the final with help from Lita,So Batista and Edge can have a match against each other prior to there PPV showdown later ni the year to see if they have any chemistry

hmmmm....that could work. I also could see Benoit winning the tournament....

[Hunter Rider]

hmmmm....that could work. I also could see Benoit winning the tournament....

I would love to see that,i was just thinking from a storyline perspective the way there bracketed and the impending Edge/Lita team up that it could be a kane/Edge final with the Lita screwjob on kane

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I really could see that as the likely possibility as well. Plus, just imagine the heel heat Edge might get if Lita turns on Kane and they kiss in the middle of the ring :o :D

[Hunter Rider]

yeah a big sloppy tongue snadwich to rub it in:p to be honest i'll be just glad when this ludicrous kane/Lita thing ends,there kiss scene's are vomit worthy and the whole deal is stupid given it started with kane blackmailing her for sex:o

I thought the 2 Shelton performances this past week were outstanding,the sooner they get him main event the better but having Christian lose again was a bad descion IMO

[John Constantine]

Hell, I thought most of the outcomes of the gold rush tournment were a bit questionable. The only one I was pleasantly surprised with was the Benoit-Triple H match because I had no idea that Triple H would actually tap out.....

[John Constantine]

Speaking of which, anybody else going to pick up WM 21 on dvd this Tuesday?

I might because of some of the extras in it: The whole hall of fame induction ceremony and that battle royal featuring the Raw and SD superstars.....

[Hunter Rider]

Hell, I thought most of the outcomes of the gold rush tournment were a bit questionable. The only one I was pleasantly surprised with was the Benoit-Triple H match because I had no idea that Triple H would actually tap out.....

yeah that surprised me to.But i bet we still end up with Batista/HHH 3 at Vengeance:o :confused:
I thought Y2J shouldve beaten Edge but it looks like there phasing Jericho out:(
I'm not surprised HBK beat Shelton as i think it would be cool on a big future PPV to have Shawn pass the torch to Shelton rather than just on a raw match

[Hunter Rider]

Speaking of which, anybody else going to pick up WM 21 on dvd this Tuesday?

I might because of some of the extras in it: The whole hall of fame induction ceremony and that battle royal featuring the Raw and SD superstars.....

I'll be buying it,its worth it for the HBK/Angle match alone:o :D

[John Constantine]

yeah that surprised me to.But i bet we still end up with Batista/HHH 3 at Vengeance:o :confused:
I thought Y2J shouldve beaten Edge but it looks like there phasing Jericho out:(
I'm not surprised HBK beat Shelton as i think it would be cool on a big future PPV to have Shawn pass the torch to Shelton rather than just on a raw match

Yeah, we'll probably see that, in the aforementioned Hell in the Cell final pay-off match that seems to end every big feud Triple H has :rolleyes: :mad:

I don't know why Jericho wants to stay around in the WWE. Right now, he's in the same position he was when he was in WCW....going nowhere. A move to TNA would kick ass for him because he'll be one of the bigger names for a while, he'll be working a way lighter schedule so he could focus more on his band, plus a wrestler like Jericho making a move voluntarily to TNA, rather than him being released and forced to go there as a last resort, might actually help out TNA in the long run...

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, we'll probably see that, in the aforementioned Hell in the Cell final pay-off match that seems to end every big feud Triple H has :rolleyes: :mad:

I don't know why Jericho wants to stay around in the WWE. Right now, he's in the same position he was when he was in WCW....going nowhere. A move to TNA would kick ass for him because he'll be one of the bigger names for a while, he'll be working a way lighter schedule so he could focus more on his band, plus a wrestler like Jericho making a move voluntarily to TNA, rather than him being released and forced to go there as a last resort, might actually help out TNA in the long run...

Well i don't get TNA where i am so im kinda hoping he stay lol:D but in the long run if WWE arent gonna use himproperly he might as well go,I have heard rumours of a heel turn and run against Batista for the title.
Worrying thing is HHH always wins those Hell in a Cell matches:eek:

[John Constantine]

I wouldn't mind that. I'm just afraid he'll turn heel, then he'll be squashed by Batista in a match or two, and then he'll go back to the midcard as a heel.....:(

[Hunter Rider]

Thats something they have to stop,This squashing stuff is so 80's:o to be honest i want to see guys like Y2J,HBK,Benoit,Christian and randy and shelton populating the main events ,some of the matches involving these guys are to good for midcard:mad:

[John Constantine]

I would love that too. Hell, I would love to see a lot of new people in the main event right now. One of the problems I have with Raw right now is that if it doesn't involve the World's title, it's not important. It's way different on SD though.....I mean look at the Guerrero-Rey feud going on. Or anything with Kurt Angle....

[Hunter Rider]

yeah the fact is the show is still to focused on HHH,he may not have the belt but his craving to get it back is starting to bore me,its time for a complete reshuffle at the main event and to as you say start putting some thought into the other feuds on the show

[John Constantine]

Exactly. I know Triple H is the star of the show and a huge main eventer and everything. But just because you're the star of the show doesn't mean you have to be the champion or the main focus of the championship for almost 3 ****ing years. Look at Kurt Angle. The guy can switch between the main event and the mid card easily. Is he a lesser wrestler because of that? I don't think so. In fact, I think he's that much better because it shows much more variety with his character.

I think Triple H dominating the title scene has even ruined his character. I mean I honestly can't think of any angle that he might be involved in that doesn't have the title as the main picture :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

I agree entirely,HHH has spent so long at the title end that im not sure how he would do in a non title feud,hell the belt is practically part of his character it defines him to a degree.That why as you say guys like Angle and HBK,Benoit are so good as they can merge inot any part of the card,Rock was good at it to although Austin was a bit like HHH the belt was part of him also

[Twitch]

Hey Guys do you think it will be good to buy WM 20?

On your topic I think on Smackdown they should move they should push Shannon Moore and Paul London to Main event. Chavo could be a great heel if pushed in the right direction. Cruiseweights should own Smackdown. :o

I want to see Benoit in Main Event again with new faces like Shelton and Randy coming back.

[Hunter Rider]

I think its worth having,its a landmark in sports entertainment and had some great matches and a classic main event plus all the extras are pretty cool including some backstage stuff on the torrie/sable playboy shoot:D I'f like to see London pushed to main event but i cant see it happening

[Twitch]

Thanks for the comments Hunter I want Moore to be a mid-carder at least and London in some kickass feunds.

[Sabretooth]

I was hoping Christian would interfere with HHH's match,but at least he tapped...

And I don't see why WWE would really want to waste their time trying to make Matt pissed for having Edge and Lita pair up,Matt's new girl is so hot she makes Lita look like a man.:o

[Sabretooth]

Off topic,but I don't know about all of you guys,but I'm slowly losing interest in The Undertaker.He's so slow in the ring,and as Keyser Kingpin pointed out,he's just as bad as HHH was in 2003.He hasn't really put anyone over since Survivor Series with McMahon,he doesn't sell moves,and his gimmick is so dated,and I sort of wish he was still the American Badass.At least then he said something other than ''You will Rest In Peace'' and ''You have awaken the dragon of the castle...'' then.

Now that I think about it,I sorta wish Orton DID win at Wrestlemania 21.WWE was too afraid to actually TRY something,so they went the predictable route.And even though I,amongst others, said I would never watch WWE again if Orton won,I probably would've actually tuned into Raw because someone would've finally killed the Deadman.:o

[Go Web Go!]

Off topic,but I don't know about all of you guys,but I'm slowly losing interest in The Undertaker.He's so slow in the ring,and as Keyser Kingpin pointed out,he's just as bad as HHH was in 2003.He hasn't really put anyone over since Survivor Series with McMahon,he doesn't sell moves,and his gimmick is so dated,and I sort of wish he was still the American Badass.At least then he said something other than ''You will Rest In Peace'' and ''You have awaken the dragon of the castle...'' then.

Now that I think about it,I sorta wish Orton DID win at Wrestlemania 21.WWE was too afraid to actually TRY something,so they went the predictable route.And even though I,amongst others, said I would never watch WWE again if Orton won,I probably would've actually tuned into Raw because someone would've finally killed the Deadman.:o

I have to say that I've also lost interest in The Undertaker, but the guy is still my all-time favorite. And as for him not putting anyone over, I'd say he has the right. He's been with the company for almost 15 years. He didn't get the power he has backstage just because he slept with his boss's daughter. He earned it and is well respected not just by people within the WWE, but all around the business.

His performance in the ring has declined, but the guy is well into his 40's. He's not going to get any better. Regardless, the guy still knows how to bring in the fans and keep them interested for the most part. It'll be a sad day when he retires...

[John Constantine]

I was hoping Christian would interfere with HHH's match,but at least he tapped...

And I don't see why WWE would really want to waste their time trying to make Matt pissed for having Edge and Lita pair up,Matt's new girl is so hot she makes Lita look like a man.:o

I don't really see it as the WWE trying to make Matt pissed, but an opportunity to get Edge and Lita, Edge being someone the WWE seems extremely high on, to get over as a mega-heel couple....

[John Constantine]

Off topic,but I don't know about all of you guys,but I'm slowly losing interest in The Undertaker.He's so slow in the ring,and as Keyser Kingpin pointed out,he's just as bad as HHH was in 2003.He hasn't really put anyone over since Survivor Series with McMahon,he doesn't sell moves,and his gimmick is so dated,and I sort of wish he was still the American Badass.At least then he said something other than ''You will Rest In Peace'' and ''You have awaken the dragon of the castle...'' then.

Now that I think about it,I sorta wish Orton DID win at Wrestlemania 21.WWE was too afraid to actually TRY something,so they went the predictable route.And even though I,amongst others, said I would never watch WWE again if Orton won,I probably would've actually tuned into Raw because someone would've finally killed the Deadman.:o

Yeah, I've been saying that from the start dammit! :mad:

It would've been a great victory for Orton, help to cement his Legend Killer status even more. Plus, it could've started a whole new "streak" for Orton himself.

[The Techno Bat]

Well TNA did make a mistake in signing Nash. He's like almost 50, can barely wrestle, and honestly, doesn't draw much of a crowd now. Huge waste of money IMO....

Exactly, there was a reason the WWE let him go. Too injury prone, very selfish and doesn't put guys over.

[angelus777]

anyone think that there should be EDGE/ KANE feud, with LITA turning on KANE and joining EDGE, and having HEEL LITA with a new look. Wouldn't make sense since everyone kinda doesn't like LITA now and treats like a HEEL anyway.

[John Constantine]

Exactly, there was a reason the WWE let him go. Too injury prone, very selfish and doesn't put guys over.

There were some people that said that he was one of the main reasons why WCW went under. Well him, Hogan, and Russo were some of the main reasons....

[3dman27]

have you heard that tna has decided to let their wrestling talent that are ECW alumni appear on the wwe's ECW ppv?

[Go Web Go!]

I haven't heard that, but if that's the case then it'll give the show a nice lift...

[John Constantine]

That's good. It really doesn't feel like an ECW reunion show if Raven's not around......

[3dman27]

I haven't heard that, but if that's the case then it'll give the show a nice lift...
i read of it at www.lordsordsofpain.net

[Rainbowbrite]

anyone think that there should be EDGE/ KANE feud, with LITA turning on KANE and joining EDGE, and having HEEL LITA with a new look. Wouldn't make sense since everyone kinda doesn't like LITA now and treats like a HEEL anyway.


yes and i think thats the direction the wwe might be going. It kinda a pisses me off because they fired matt over the whole situation and now are taking the heat we gave for lita from that and trying to make it seem that her turning in kane is the reason for the heat. I havent liked lita ever since she came back to train christy and i have lost alot of respect for the girl for what she did to matt.

[Hunter Rider]

Christy Hemme is very well liked backstage. She is exactly what WWE looks for in a Diva and many feel that once her one year contract is up, they will resign her and she's got a job for quite awhile as long as things keep going the way they are.

Randy Orton has completely shaved his head to fit a new summer look while he rehabs from shoulder surgery. He'll be out around six months.

[John Constantine]

hahahaa....I want to see what Orton looks like with a shaved head :D

They should bring back RNN.....:(

[Hunter Rider]

hahahaa....I want to see what Orton looks like with a shaved head :D

They should bring back RNN.....:(

I think they might unless they want to hide his new look unitl his return

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWInsider

In the WWE monthly pay-per-view newsletter today, WWE confirmed that on at the June 26 Vengeance PPV in Las Vegas, NV, Triple H and Batista will have a Hell in a Cell match for the World Title. The match has been speculated for quite a while now as Vengeance poster featuring Triple H vs. Batista in a Hell in a Cell match was released last month.

[Keyser Soze]

So, is anyone else hyped that this might finally be Christian's year? I see him going over to Smackdown with the draft lottery, and there will clearly be a Christian VS John Cena feud. Could we possibly see Christian leaving Summerslam with the WWE Heavyweight Title?

[John Constantine]

If not Christian being the SD champion by Summerslam, I would love to see a Guerrero-Cena feud starting up with Guerrero walking away with the championship :up:

[Jason Blood]

I hope Benoit isn't the winner

back when Benoit was getting pushed I saw enough matches between the two to last me until something major happens to Benoit's character (he needs to be retooled dammit!)

[U.S War Machine]

are they doing another draft lottery again?

[Jason Blood]

They announced it but nobody knows what date for sure

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I hope they really mix things up with the lottery this time. All they did last year was shift around the mid card level guys....no big deal.

[Jason Blood]

The last draft had a HUGE impact

Shelton and Edge are two of the most obvious

[Sabretooth]

What happened in the first hour of Raw?

[Go Web Go!]

How bad is Tomko looking jobbing to a guy in his 60's...

[John Constantine]

Pretty bad. But then again, when has Tomko ever looked good?

[Go Web Go!]

You're right. And what's up with that cold sore HBK has? Has he been fooling around with Lita?

[Go Web Go!]

Oh, and I guess it's pretty safe to say that Evolution is no more? Looks like Flair is playing a face role...

[John Constantine]

It's his legacy. He's such a legend right now he could cheat with Lita and get Matt Hardy fired and he'll still get huge pops.....


And I'm surprised there actually incorporating ECW into the storyline.....

[Newlife]

Damn, i can't believe Edge beat HBK, that pisses me off.

Edge or Kane to be the number one contender? Wow, how exciting..not.

[Go Web Go!]

What did you expect? It's obvious they're setting up a Kane/Edge match and a Lita heel turn...

[John Constantine]

I'm just glad their trying someone new as the heel main-eventer.....


Although it's gonna be Triple H who's gonna fight Batista again since a Hell in a Cell match between the two has already been announced :mad: :(

[3dman27]

did viscera or robert conway make a pass at lilian garcia during lst nights raw?
the raw results page synopsis wasn't clear on which one it was

[Savage]

did viscera or robert conway make a pass at lilian garcia during lst nights raw?
the raw results page synopsis wasn't clear on which one it was
Viscera...God, that guy gets weirder ever time I see him. "You want some of my nachos?;)"...Just...weird.

[3dman27]

Viscera...God, that guy gets weirder ever time I see him. "You want some of my nachos?;)"...Just...weird.
thanks savage

[kane9321]

the wwe should make lilian garcia a "diva"...damn she's always been pretty on the eyes.Thanks alot simon dean you too maven..I was getting all excited to see stacey's nice panties but u too buffons had to ruin it. Overall raw was good as always..except up untill being force fed "john cena's" crappy song and crappier video..grrrrr

[3dman27]

lilians listed in the wwe divas.com section now so maybe they have

[Savage]

Heh. Guess I'm the only one who likes the song and video. I'm not too into rap even and I like it.

[John Constantine]

Just found out this bit of news: Matt Hardy's first match in Ring of Honor will be against The Fallen Angel :up:

[Go Web Go!]

Heh. Guess I'm the only one who likes the song and video. I'm not too into rap even and I like it.

That's not rap, buddy...

[Spider-Fan]

Heh. Guess I'm the only one who likes the song and video. I'm not too into rap even and I like it.

I am not a rap fan, but even I could tell that the rap was horrible. The video was mildly amusing, but overall horrible. Who else thinks Edge should not win the tournament. They already have him in a title match somewhere down the line, let others have a shot.

[trombonemaestro]

Well, that video is about as close as I'll get to ever listening to rap. The 80s nostalgia was good.

[Jason Blood]

Did anyone else catch what I thought to be HBK's attire getting stuck?

also

THANK GOD THEY ARE DISBANDING LA RESISTANCE

Conway should be a great singles wrestler

[3dman27]

did viscera or robert conway make a pass at lilian garcia during lst nights raw?
the raw results page synopsis wasn't clear on which one it was
and i think i rermembered something whilewatching this bit on tape
isn't lilian garcia married why would vicera make a pass at a MARRIED WOMAN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION?

[John Constantine]

Probably the same reason why Eric Bischoff tried to hit on Linda McMahon a couple years ago.

And Lita and Kane are "married"


ie. It's all part of a storyline.....

[SLYspyda]

You're right. And what's up with that cold sore HBK has? Has he been fooling around with Lita?


that's what you call a cut. ever heard of those?

[Lobo]

Remember when Christian looked like this :)

Before
http://jjcollectibles.com/prod_images_large/christianwwf.jpg


After
http://bodyslamming.com/wwe/pics/christian3.jpg

[Donnie Darko]

http://jjcollectibles.com/prod_images_large/christianwwf.jpg


Thanks for reminding me how much I used to HATE Christian.

[Lobo]

Thanks for reminding me how much I used to HATE Christian.


Your welcome. Captain Charisma>Legend Killer :p :o

[John Constantine]

hahaha...that was during his Brood days wasn't it? :D


That reminds me, the WWE signed Gangrel a little while back....maybe they could set-up a one-time only Brood reunion again? ;) :D

[Lobo]

Will he be Gangrel or will he come back as a new character? Though I wouldn't mind seeing Triple H get a bloodbath :D

[John Constantine]

I'm betting he'll still be the vampire character. He's been playing that same gimmick for a long time.....

[Hunter Rider]

Well the tournemant turned out very predictible and now we can look forward to a tedious kane/Edge feud coupled with yet another HHH/Batista match while the best talent tread water in the mid-card:rolleyes: :(

[kane9321]

damnit i loved the brood,they were awsome!

[John Constantine]

Well the tournemant turned out very predictible and now we can look forward to a tedious kane/Edge feud coupled with yet another HHH/Batista match while the best talent tread water in the mid-card:rolleyes: :(

You expected anything different? :confused:


Honestly, the Triple H-Batista feud is probably never gonna end until Triple H has the title back around his waist again :down

[Hunter Rider]

You expected anything different? :confused:

No,but i like to stay hopeful:( :up: and whats worse is we are now in for one of the most boring feuds in wrestling history

[kane9321]

i wished they could have stayed around longer,,,grrrrr

[John Constantine]

No,but i like to stay hopeful:( :up: and whats worse is we are now in for one of the most boring feuds in wrestling history

Yeah, but looking at the track history for Raw, that's never gonna happen, I've learnt that by now.

It's funny that both Raw and SD go around in cycles though. This time last year, Raw was pretty good while SD was very boring. Now it's the other way around....

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but looking at the track history for Raw, that's never gonna happen, I've learnt that by now.

It's funny that both Raw and SD go around in cycles though. This time last year, Raw was pretty good while SD was very boring. Now it's the other way around....

Well at the moment i'm not really impressed with either,The only thing on SD i like is the Rey/Eddie feud,The rest had been sub-par to me,Cena/JBL is just tired and Angle is wasted working with Booker IMO,also get the feling MNM are just eye candy and nothing else.Ive got a worrying feeling that along with this crap edge/Kane feud that the Game is gonna get the blet back in the Hell in a cell match,Can you see him losing 3 consecutive times to a guy who is older than him ?

[John Constantine]

Well at the moment, I think SD is improving as a whole, despite Cena being the champion. I'm really digging the Eddie-Rey feud. Anything with Kurt Angle is gold cause, frankly, he could make anybody look good. I'm pretty impressed with MNM and the other new wrestlers they have on - Carlito (not really new per se, but he's been out with an injury for a while) and Matt Morgan (dumb gimmick aside, he's a pretty good wrestler). The show just seems a bit more balanced at the moment.....

I really hope Triple H doesn't regain the title in the HITC match....I just want their feud to end and for Batista to fight against some new heel wrestlers. And for Triple H to maybe (I know this might be a stretch for him) fight in a feud in which the World's title isn't the focus. Is that too much to ask for? :confused: :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

^^^ to be honest i'd like to see HHH take the rest of the year off.He'd get a huge reaction when he returned at say the Rumble and it would revitalise him IMO.As for Batista,im just not sure how much longer they'll leave it on him,I think his next heel feud will be Edge and then he'll lose it.I'm not totally sold on MNM but i do like the Carlito character i just need to see more in the ring for him.Matt Morgan looks the buissness i just wish they would let him be a proper heel and get rid of the stuttering gimmick

[John Constantine]

That stuttering gimmick is just a start-up though just to get him over. I'm pretty sure he'll lose the stutter eventually. But I think Matt Morgan should start getting into a feud with a wrestler soon....


I really wouldn't mind it if Triple H did take the rest of the year off to heal from his injury. And by a year off I mean completely off tv. Don't have him still be around as a thorn in Batista's side or anything like that. Let the other wrestlers on the Raw roster carry the show.

[Hunter Rider]

That stuttering gimmick is just a start-up though just to get him over. I'm pretty sure he'll lose the stutter eventually. But I think Matt Morgan should start getting into a feud with a wrestler soon....


I really wouldn't mind it if Triple H did take the rest of the year off to heal from his injury. And by a year off I mean completely off tv. Don't have him still be around as a thorn in Batista's side or anything like that. Let the other wrestlers on the Raw roster carry the show.

I agree with that completely,its no good him still lingering around in someone's corner continuosly dominating the mic side of things.I think they should put Morgan in a feud with Holly

[John Constantine]

hmmm....I dunno, Hardcore seems like one of those pricks who's extremely hard to work with. Like that match last week on SD with Carlito? What a mess :(

I don't know if they want to build up Morgan as a face or heel though. I mean his stuttering gimmick could generate some face responses because a heel opponent could keep making fun of his stuttering and that might be a better feud, but then again, he seems to act like a heel :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

you could be right about Holly,he is to "old school,pay ya dues" for his own good,I still see Morgan as an unstoppable heel.perhaps Booker after he's finished the Kurt fued ?I think Carlito needs a finisher to round out his offense

[John Constantine]

hmmmm.....that could work. A Booker T-Morgan feud might be a good initial feud for Matty :up:


I thought Carlito already had a finishing move? :confused: Or if he doesn't I'm sure he already has one in mind :up:

[Hunter Rider]

He may have one i cant remember he has only wrestled about five times:confused: The reason he didnt use it on holly is that holly probably wouldn't let him,i mean he went outve his way to screw carlito:down

[John Constantine]

That's true. And half of those matches he wrestled in before his injury were against John Cena, who provided him no chance for offense as well....

And his upcoming feud against the Big Show doesn't sound too promising either.....

[Hunter Rider]

Oh there going ahead with the Big show feud ?:( It'll be a squash just like the Cena matches,why didn't they put him in a feud with someone more his size,not that i can think who at this point:confused:

[John Constantine]

I'm thinking most likely. I mean why else is he gonna have Big Show on Carlito's Cabana? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

It could be a set up for Carlito's new Bodyguard i heard about him getting

[John Constantine]

Another new bodyguard? Whose it supposed to be this time? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not sure,it was after they sent jesus back to OVW that they said that Carlito would be getting a new bodyguard as they felt it fit his character

[Go Web Go!]

Actually, I heard that WWE flat-out released Jesus. Anywho, Smackdown spoilers:

Heidenreich def. Spike Dudley (Wow, must be Heidenreich's comingout party beating someone like Spike); Chavo Guerrero & MNM def. Paul London, Charlie Haas & Hardcore Holly (Wouldn't a match like this normally be seen on Velocity?); Jimmy Jacobs def. Eddie Guerreo via DQ (new music for Eddie); Matt Morgan def. Funaki (get this guy a credible opponent); Carlitos Corner with the Big Show (Carlito poisons Show with an apple. Show White?); and finally Booker T vs. Angle ends in a no contest

Show sounds HORRIBLE! I don't plan on watching any of this crap atleast until after the Draft...

[Lobo]

Actually, I heard that WWE flat-out released Jesus. Anywho, Smackdown spoilers:

Heidenreich def. Spike Dudley (Wow, must be Heidenreich's comingout party beating someone like Spike); Chavo Guerrero & MNM def. Paul London, Charlie Haas & Hardcore Holly (Wouldn't a match like this normally be seen on Velocity?); Jimmy Jacobs def. Eddie Guerreo via DQ (new music for Eddie); Matt Morgan def. Funaki (get this guy a credible opponent); Carlitos Corner with the Big Show (Carlito poisons Show with an apple. Show White?); and finally Booker T vs. Angle ends in a no contest

Show sounds HORRIBLE! I don't plan on watching any of this crap atleast until after the Draft...


That sounds horrible. I feel really bad for the people that paid good money to see that show :(

[Sabretooth]

Yeah.I might just tune in to see if Eddie's gone back to that kick ass WCW song.:up:

[Hunter Rider]

from the PWTOrch Newsletter :

-- The fans chanting for Matt Hardy at pretty much every arena that WWE has run an event in, has been getting to Vince McMahon. Next week, it's expected that Lita and Edge will be involved with each other in an on-air storyline.

-- Lita is said to be uncomfortable with the situation being exploited on TV, however she is in no position to complain at this point.

-- There's talk within some circles in WWE that Vince McMahon may be talked into rehiring Matt Hardy, in order to take part in an on-air feud with Edge and Lita.

[Hunter Rider]

From WWE.com:

Luther Reigns has been released from World Wrestling Entertainment. WWE wishes him the best in his future endeavors.


WWE.com posted the following today:

Shawn Michaels suffered a Grade 1 concussion during his match against Edge, presumably when smashed in the head with Edge's briefcase.

From what we've been told, Shawn is expected to be OK and has been at home resting this week.

[Go Web Go!]

Goodbye, Luther. Yet another big man that couldn't make it in the WWE despite being pushed early in his career.

As for bringing Hardy back to feud with Edge, I find that hard to believe. It'll be extremely difficult to feud with a person on screen when you have MAJOR problems with them behind the camera. It's not the same as 2 wrestlers feuding and really disliking eachother off the air. This takes it to another level and I don't think it would or should be done.

[John Constantine]

That sucks about Luther, he was a pretty good wrestler for a guy his size. And he would've been great for the US title division if they would've used him properly :mad:

[John Constantine]

Actually, I heard that WWE flat-out released Jesus. Anywho, Smackdown spoilers:

Heidenreich def. Spike Dudley (Wow, must be Heidenreich's comingout party beating someone like Spike); Chavo Guerrero & MNM def. Paul London, Charlie Haas & Hardcore Holly (Wouldn't a match like this normally be seen on Velocity?); Jimmy Jacobs def. Eddie Guerreo via DQ (new music for Eddie); Matt Morgan def. Funaki (get this guy a credible opponent); Carlitos Corner with the Big Show (Carlito poisons Show with an apple. Show White?); and finally Booker T vs. Angle ends in a no contest

Show sounds HORRIBLE! I don't plan on watching any of this crap atleast until after the Draft...

I read that The Amazing Red wrestled a dark match though. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the CW division in the near future :up:

[Go Web Go!]

That sucks about Luther, he was a pretty good wrestler for a guy his size. And he would've been great for the US title division if they would've used him properly :mad:

If everyone were used correctly then guys like Sean O'Haire, Rhyno, Justin Credible, etc. would still be around :confused:

[John Constantine]

If everyone were used correctly then guys like Sean O'Haire, Rhyno, Justin Credible, etc. would still be around :confused:

That's true.

Damn, I'm still pissed about O'Haire. That guy could've been the perfect main event heel by now. He has like everything: A good look, interesting gimmick, good wrestling skill.....:mad:

[Hunter Rider]

That's true.

Damn, I'm still pissed about O'Haire. That guy could've been the perfect main event heel by now. He has like everything: A good look, interesting gimmick, good wrestling skill.....:mad:

I agree,he had huge potential and then they put him with piper and had him put into ridiculous feuds before resigning him to velocity:ghost:
As for Reigns he was wasted.he had decent mic skills and was a good in ring worker,i had heard he was trouble outside the ring though
Matt vs Edge ? it would draw ratings but would even the WWE be that tasteless.........stupid question:o

[John Constantine]

I agree,he had huge potential and then they put him with piper and had him put into ridiculous feuds before resigning him to velocity:ghost:
As for Reigns he was wasted.he had decent mic skills and was a good in ring worker,i had heard he was trouble outside the ring though
Matt vs Edge ? it would draw ratings but would even the WWE be that tasteless.........stupid question:o

He shouldn't have been with Piper, he should've been part of a new Raven's Flock. I mean just imagine how kickass that would've been to have a Raven-Sean O'Haire-Stevie Richards-Victoria stable going on.....

And don't count the WWE in terms of taste. They'll literally do anything just as long as they get better ratings and better PPV buyrates.....

[Hunter Rider]

He shouldn't have been with Piper, he should've been part of a new Raven's Flock. I mean just imagine how kickass that would've been to have a Raven-Sean O'Haire-Stevie Richards-Victoria stable going on.....

And don't count the WWE in terms of taste. They'll literally do anything just as long as they get better ratings and better PPV buyrates.....

Raven -that was another guy wasted cos he wasnt 6'6 and 300 pounds:mad: that flock idea wouldve been cool,i'd forgotten Raven was still with WWE at that point,Victoria needs something to do badly,she basically just keeps doing heel turnds on house shows with Stacy and Christy cos there's no one to actually wrestle anymore as WWE fired all the prope women wrestlers:confused:

[John Constantine]

Well, the woman's title division is dead now anyways. If they really wanted something for Victoria to do, they should just team her up with a heel wrestler, have her act as a valet that sometimes provides some outside interference.....

[Hunter Rider]

she'd have been a good fit with morgan if he wasn't Usind the stuttering gimick or Edge if he wasn't banging Lita:o

[John Constantine]

I still like the time she teamed up with Steven Richards. They could continue that again.


But then again, that would require the WWE actually using Richards properly in the first place....:o :(

[3dman27]

Well, the woman's title division is dead now anyways.
i'm afraid you're right john
i'm afraid you're right :hyper:

[trombonemaestro]

That sucks about Luther, he was a pretty good wrestler for a guy his size. And he would've been great for the US title division if they would've used him properly :mad:

I remember when he used to be a jobber in the old WCW. They would have him lose to Rey Mysterio back then. Probably his best match in the old WCW was when he almost got over on Goldberg. Back then he went under the name Horse Shoe

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I heard that he was Horshu back in WCW. I remembered that character. He was waaay skinnier than he was now....

[Lobo]

I don't remeber that :(. Off topic but whatever happened to Reese?

[John Constantine]

Reese? You mean that big guy from the Flock? :confused:

[Lobo]

Yeah what happened to him?

[John Constantine]

I dunno, probably the same thing that happened to all the Flock member who weren't Raven, Kidman, Saturn, or Stevie Richards :confused:


Remember when Horace Hogan was part of that stable? :D

[Lobo]

I dunno, probably the same thing that happened to all the Flock member who weren't Raven, Kidman, Saturn, or Stevie Richards :confused:


Remember when Horace Hogan was part of that stable? :D


Yeah :) and don't forget Scotty riggs was there for a while too.

[John Constantine]

Oh yeah, that was during his pirate phase :D

The FLock was another example of WCW adding too many useless characters to a stable. They should've kept it at 5 or 6 members at the most....

[Lobo]

Pirate phase :D

[John Constantine]

Well he was wearing the eyepatch at the time. An eyepatch that seemed to switch places sometimes.....

[Lobo]

I remeber then he went to ECW for a while as the American Male :D

[John Constantine]

Wasn't it Scotty Anton? :confused:

And yeah, I kinda remembered that. Especially when he turned on RVD :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWInsider.com

Reports from backstage sources leaked on Thursday indicate that Luther Reigns' release was actually the result of a personal request from the superstar. Reigns felt that he was not being utilized to his maximum potential and asked the company to release him from his contract. There is absolutely no heat on Reigns from management, with many praising the wrestler for being upfront about his concerns.

Reigns currently plans to devote more focus to his real estate investments in Arizona. Although he did leave on great terms, the likelihood of a return is unknown as Reigns is very interested in his real estate venture.

The rumor that Reigns' release was related to his leaving the European tour, which was due to injury, appears to be unsubstantiated

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWTorch.com

As we reported today, there have been absolutely no official talks between Matt Hardy and WWE officials regarding a return of the recently released superstar. However, there is definite talk within WWE that with the possible uniting of Edge and Lita on RAW Monday as a heel duo (which we've been rumoring for a while now), and all of the fan chants about the Edge/Lita/Matt situation, that Vince McMahon may be interested in getting Hardy back in the company. It could be later this year, not right away, especially if the crowds continue to chant about it. For those wondering where all three stand with each other currently, Hardy and Lita continue to talk regularly, but are not "together." At the same time, Lita is friendly with Edge, but they're also not officially "together." Matt and Edge are pretty much still not talking with each other.

Speaking of the Edge/Lita/Hardy drama, John Cena recently spoke out on the situation on an appearance of the Opie & Anthony Radio show. Cena said "I gotta move to the other show" because it seemed all the excitement was happening on the Raw brand. He said he thought the way WWE handled the situation was odd because "Matt sold tickets," but he added that Lita is "hot" and that, while he considered Matt a close friend who helped bring him up when he first came in, "there's another side to the story that I can't speak on." He noted that it "takes two to tango." O&A joked about how if it was Cena screwing your girlfriend, there'd be nothing you could do about it.

[Go Web Go!]

You know what I would love? I was thinking about this the other night while watching RAW (the segment with Stacy Keibler) the WWE should bring back the Right to Censor! That would get me watching again. ;)

[trombonemaestro]

* Big Ron Studd = Ron Reis WCW [Past Identities: Yetti WCW Reese WCW Giant Ninja WCW] Teams: Raven's Flock (as Reese) WCW]

[Jason Blood]

That's true.

Damn, I'm still pissed about O'Haire. That guy could've been the perfect main event heel by now. He has like everything: A good look, interesting gimmick, good wrestling skill.....:mad:

O'Haire was GREAT!

I was very pissed when they let him go

[Sabretooth]

I find it odd Matt's talking to Lita,she was the one he was in a five year relationship with....

[Donnie Darko]

I used to love O'Haire back in WCW when he teamed with Jindrack as part of the Natural Born Thrillers. They were an AWESOME stable, I don't care what anyone says, but for some reason I always have trouble remembering exactly who all of the members were.

[Go Web Go!]

I used to love O'Haire back in WCW when he teamed with Jindrack as part of the Natural Born Thrillers. They were an AWESOME stable, I don't care what anyone says, but for some reason I always have trouble remembering exactly who all of the members were.

Had they put them back together after the "Invasion" they would be contributing to that weak Tag division.

[Donnie Darko]

if by "contributing to" you mean "dominating," then yes

[Go Web Go!]

By "contributing" I mean doing more than Simon Dean & Maven, The Hurricane & Rosey, etc.

[John Constantine]

I used to love O'Haire back in WCW when he teamed with Jindrack as part of the Natural Born Thrillers. They were an AWESOME stable, I don't care what anyone says, but for some reason I always have trouble remembering exactly who all of the members were.

Besides O'Haire and Jindrak, the Thrillers also consisted of Chuck Palumbo, Sean Stasiak, Reno, and Mike Sanders.

Speaking of Mike Sanders what ever happened to him? I saw him on TNA a couple years back, but where is he now? :confused: He would've been great in the WWE....


And I honestly don't know why Jindrak is still in the WWE....seriously.....

[3dman27]

Source: PWInsider.com

Reports from backstage sources leaked on Thursday indicate that Luther Reigns' release was actually the result of a personal request from the superstar. Reigns felt that he was not being utilized to his maximum potential and asked the company to release him from his contract. There is absolutely no heat on Reigns from management, with many praising the wrestler for being upfront about his concerns.

Reigns currently plans to devote more focus to his real estate investments in Arizona. Although he did leave on great terms, the likelihood of a return is unknown as Reigns is very interested in his real estate venture.

The rumor that Reigns' release was related to his leaving the European tour, which was due to injury, appears to be unsubstantiated
so he left in order to devote more time to his other occupation i can respect that.

[kane9321]

Smackdown once again was blah, crazy eddie coming to the ring was great,the 6 man tag match was nice(thank you again melina),but this whole angle/booker T/wife skit as got to go...jesus christ,when angle went after his wife backstage and he closed the door all the screaming my god.When booker finally makes an attempt to save her...more more screaming...I had to put my tv on mute...and i was still hearing her screams.STOP THIS INSANITY NOW!

[3dman27]

i read on www.lordsofpain.netthat legendary wrestling manager and wwe hall of famer captain lou albano recently had heart surgery
get well soon captain lou the wrestling fans are talking to you

[kane9321]

get well cap

[John Constantine]

Smackdown once again was blah, crazy eddie coming to the ring was great,the 6 man tag match was nice(thank you again melina),but this whole angle/booker T/wife skit as got to go...jesus christ,when angle went after his wife backstage and he closed the door all the screaming my god.When booker finally makes an attempt to save her...more more screaming...I had to put my tv on mute...and i was still hearing her screams.STOP THIS INSANITY NOW!

I'm digging the psycho eddie now. Even his slower version of his theme music is pretty good. Although it would kick even more ass to see him get back his WCW one :mad: :o

And I might be crazy, but I'm finding this Angle-Booker T feud to be funny as hell. It's shades of the aborted Angle-Stephanie-Triple H feud that happened a few years back....

[Sabretooth]

I loved it when Angle was like,''Booker,I want perverted sex with your wife'' Angle's awesome.:D

I can't stand Eddie's new music.It's basically his other one without the actual music.WCW music DAMMIT!:mad:

[John Constantine]

I don't think it's that bad, really. It helps to fit his new, psychotic image :up:

[Sabretooth]

I just hope he doesn't keep carrying Rey's mask.It's almost as annoying as Edge and his stupid case.:down:

[John Constantine]

Well at least with Edge's case, he could use that as a weapon to cheat. Eddie really can't use that with the mask.

But he'll probably drop the mask after his feud with Rey is over. I just hope Rey doesn't go maskless now...

[The Techno Bat]

Sucks about HBK's concussion due to getting slammed in the head by Edge's briefcase last week on RAW...

Smackdown really didn't hold my interest last night. like most of you I thought it was boring as well

[Sabretooth]

Well at least with Edge's case, he could use that as a weapon to cheat. Eddie really can't use that with the mask.

But he'll probably drop the mask after his feud with Rey is over. I just hope Rey doesn't go maskless now...
I doubt they will.It's not like that's the only mask he has.


But didn't his mask come off like 2 weeks ago?I couldn't tell cause when they showed it at the beginning of the last episode of SD!,it was in black and white,and I didn't actually see that episode of SD!.:confused:

I hope SD! gets better,because Raw pretty much sucks,with the way midcarders are getting more screentime then Batista(though sometimes it's nice to see them more) and the only thing for SD! is the Rey and Eddie feud.

[3dman27]

maybe the screentime thing is balancing out more now that hhh is beltless

[Jason Blood]

Didn't Rey's mask get ripped?

[John Constantine]

Yeah, that's why I'm wondering if it's a sign that maybe Rey might go maskless now. Like maybe because Eddie ripped his mask off a bit, that he lost a bit of respect and has to go maskless now. I don't really know, I'm just speculating really :confused:


And yeah, I know that Rey was previously maskless in WCW but it seems like WWE chose to ignore that anyways :o

[Hunter Rider]

Rey/Eddie are the only decent thing going on, on SD IMO and Raw isnt much better with the iminent Kane/Edge feud:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

From Slam! Wrestling:

The Charismatic Enigma and Angelic Diablo are inching closer and closer to getting back together. Swanton bombs, twists of fate ... and a little TLC ... that would be just dandy with us.

Yep, Jeff Hardy says he expects he'll be joined in TNA by his brother Matt, whose 90-day no-compete clause with WWE will expire on July 10.

But anybody who's hoping for a reunion of The Hardy Boyz, the high-flying risktakers who became legendary for their Tables, Ladders and Chairs epics, may have to settle for a one-time only reunion.

"Matt's pretty sure he'll end up in TNA," said Jeff on the phone the other day. "The first time together, we should do a tag match. But (Matt) wants to stay separate ... (and so do I).

"It's amazing how many people remember The Hardy Boyz."

It's safe to say The Charismatic Enigma is enjoying life these days, living life on his own terms.

He says at the peak of The Hardy Boyz, he hauled in $700,000 a year from WWE. Now, he gets paid quite a bit less for his TNA appearances, but he's loving life.

"This is great," he said. "The schedule is beyond awesome. It's a weird feeling when you leave WWE. It's hard not to feel like you're in the minor leagues, but I'm over it now. I used to say maybe, but now I don't see myself back (in WWE).

"When I first saw a TNA pay-per-view, the X Division stood out. It's so entertaining ... it's hard not to fall in love with that kind of stuff."

That kind of stuff being guys like AJ Styles.

"I look at AJ Styles and that's how I used to feel," said Hardy. "It seems like he has no fear. Maybe if I ever got a chance, if TNA ever went head-to-head with RAW, I'd get that feeling back ... I'd be motivated to go all out."

Going all out is what contributed to Hardy's exit from WWE.

"It was so weird. It was a dream for me to be (in WWE) ... then it happened so fast. But I was doing it so much ... I burned out. It was such a great feeling to be on top, but I don't know if I'd be here right now if I had kept doing it."

He took a year and finished a motocross track. He painted. And he wrote songs. Lots of them, with influences from bands like Pearl Jam, Velvet Revolver and even some rap music.

And while he was out of wrestling, TNA's Jeff Jarrett kept calling. Each call went unreturned, until Jeff, with some urging from Matt, finally picked up the phone.

And now it's Jeff, who's been a shoulder for Matt to lean on. Matt is suffering heartbreak after his long-time, real-life girlfriend Amy Dumas (Lita) left him for Adam Copeland (Edge).

"I don't know what took place," said Jeff. "Matt can get on your nerves. It's his way or no way.

"But it kind of freaks me out. (Matt's) deeply in love with Amy. And she's like a sister to me. His ultimate goal is to be with Amy. She still has a lot of stuff at Matt's house. They were within inches of getting married.

"I was very surprised. One day, Matt came up here and played his messages. There was Adam telling Amy how much he loved her. Matt got me to call Adam. I got his voicemail and said. 'Hey, this is all screwed up. I hate you right now.'

So while his brother tries to sort out his feelings, Jeff is just chilling.

"I'm good," he said. "I don't owe anybody any money. I like what I'm doing."

[John Constantine]

Rey/Eddie are the only decent thing going on, on SD IMO and Raw isnt much better with the iminent Kane/Edge feud:rolleyes:

At least SD has the Rey/Eddie feud to keep things going on SD. It's something worth watching at least on that show.

With Raw, I don't really see much that's worth watching equal to the Rey/Guerrero feud......

[angelus777]

Anyone think KANE should back to the mask??? Would be great if LITA turns on kane and somehow burns is face again and joins with EDGE. Brining back the old kane whiche everyone likes.

[John Constantine]

If Kane could survive being pushed into a huge bonfire and escape with only a couple minor "burns", then I doubt Lita burning him in the face will cause him to go back to the mask anytime soon ;)

[3dman27]

i read that at a recent house show [source lordsofpain.net]that viscera came out talking about how hot lilian garcia is and since she wasn't at the house show he'd have to settle for lita and kane came out and mopped the floor with him

my question is since vince has ditched all the trained wrestlers, except for victoria are they going to try to mirror the recent trish vs christy storyline[by way of lita resenting viscera considering her inferior to lilian] or have lita sic christy on her and have THEM go at it theories folks?

[kane9321]

since i dislike christy...i would mind seeing her get beatdown by somebody..the women's division went straight to hell..reall quick..grrrrrr

[Go Web Go!]

Anyone think KANE should back to the mask??? Would be great if LITA turns on kane and somehow burns is face again and joins with EDGE. Brining back the old kane whiche everyone likes.

I'd like to see him go back to the mask, but he'd look a tad stupid wearing a mask with that bald head of his. That is unless he wears a mask that covers his whole head.

[Newlife]

I'd like to see him go back to the mask, but he'd look a tad stupid wearing a mask with that bald head of his. That is unless he wears a mask that covers his whole head.


Or they could just put long black hair like he had before and attach it to the mask. Wasn't it a wig all along anyways?

[Sabretooth]

I'm sorta pissed he ain't gonna get the win tonight.Edge already has a shot,and Kane really deserves it

[John Constantine]

Or they could just put long black hair like he had before and attach it to the mask. Wasn't it a wig all along anyways?

I dont' think so...I think he always had the long hair until he went unmasked...

[Sabretooth]

Plus it'd look weird if he went from bald to long haired in only a week.

[John Constantine]

If they absolutely had to bring him back to the masked, long-haired Kane, do an Undertaker. Have him get burned in the face, have him roll around in agony (or something) and then keep him off tv for a few months. Then when he returns, he could return in masked, long-haired (hopefully) glory. And keeping him away for a few months might give him a bigger pop when he makes his eventual return....

[Sabretooth]

Still,there wouldn't be so much mystery if he went back to it,because everyone would know how he truly looks.

[Sabretooth]

What's the real reason with HHH leaving?:confused:

[Sabretooth]

One Night Stand is gonna suck now.:(

[The Techno Bat]

I love the 500lb love machine's small push. I think it is cool when guys that are not in the big picture get a bit of time and Viscera deserves it.

[The Techno Bat]

Anyone think KANE should back to the mask??? Would be great if LITA turns on kane and somehow burns is face again and joins with EDGE. Brining back the old kane whiche everyone likes.

I prefer Kane unmasked, and speaking normal. Sure he lost a bit of heat in losing the mask, but something about it is just a breath of fresh air.

[John Constantine]

One Night Stand is gonna suck now.:(

Why? Cause no wrestlers from the Raw roster are gonna be on it? It's not like that's gonna stick :confused:


I love it that they're promoting the PPV on Raw though....especially in having those "ECW rules" matches. It would kick even more ass the week before the actual PPV starts someone like Sandman pops up and canes Eric Bischoff :up:

[John Constantine]

What's the real reason with HHH leaving?:confused:

Part of me thinks it's because he's still a bit injured. But another part of me feels that what he said on Raw was him actually speaking truthfully. That he's gonna leave for a bit to prove that Batista's nothing without him. This might also be an incentive for Triple H to regain the title again in their HITC match.

It doesn't help that they're practically doing nothing with Batista as a champion now :rolleyes: :mad:

[Go Web Go!]

Or they could just put long black hair like he had before and attach it to the mask. Wasn't it a wig all along anyways?

No, no it was not. They only used a wig when they unmasked him...


If they absolutely had to bring him back to the masked, long-haired Kane, do an Undertaker. Have him get burned in the face, have him roll around in agony (or something) and then keep him off tv for a few months. Then when he returns, he could return in masked, long-haired (hopefully) glory. And keeping him away for a few months might give him a bigger pop when he makes his eventual return....

Not a bad idea, but just growing his hair out would take months. The Undertaker was gone from November to March/April and his hair wasn't all that long. They should have had Kane grow his hair out when he was out filming his movie.

Still,there wouldn't be so much mystery if he went back to it,because everyone would know how he truly looks.

Hey, it worked with The Undertaker. We took a glimpse into his life as the American Badass (hell, we even met his wife), but he's back. Of course he isn't the same, but it still seems to get him over.

Oh and did anyone see RAW? What a surprising turn of events. Lita turning on Kane? But why?! :rolleyes:

[DarkKnightJRK]

I loved that bit with Vicara and Lillian, who wants to bet she goes to his room after the show? :D

About Kane...I kind-of like the way he is now, his thing with Lita is freaky and great. :D

So I'm a bit wierd, sue me. :cool:

[3dman27]

visceria and lilian vs kane and lita

hmmm
since i just found out that HEEL LITA has made her dynamic debut make that edge and lita

[Sabretooth]

Why? Cause no wrestlers from the Raw roster are gonna be on it? It's not like that's gonna stick :confused:


I love it that they're promoting the PPV on Raw though....especially in having those "ECW rules" matches. It would kick even more ass the week before the actual PPV starts someone like Sandman pops up and canes Eric Bischoff :up:
Oh,I thought that people from Raw were gonna be at ECW to ''destroy it'' which is why I said it'll suck.

[GLfan]

Lita turning on Kane? But why?! :rolleyes:
Probably because, she gets You Screwed Matt chants along with Edge.