Wrestling

[John Constantine]

They rushed into everything too quickly with Orton, both his face turn and his title reign. If they would've kept the title around him for a bit longer while still face, and had him face opponents similar to his IC title reign, he would've been much better off IMO.

Even right now with Batista, it seems like they think that Batista can't be champion anymore and the belt has to go back to Triple H. Honestly, give the guy more opponents and let him hold the title for a bit longer. It's not gonna hurt anything if he's the champion for a little while longer.....

[Hunter Rider]

The thing with Batista is they have no faith in him due to his age and the fact he is a 5 spot guy,I think they will put the title on Edge come Summerslam and see if he can play top heel

[Bad Superman]

If the PPV proves to be extremely popular, I wouldn't be surprised to see ECW become a bit more permanent.....

I hope that's the case.

Orton was badly managed by the company,they made him face way to quick,he shouldve been a heel champ with evolution,with HHH simmering in the background and then do the turn and set up the HHH/Orton face turn from there,they rushed it and messed it up

Absolutely! Too bad he didn't get the chance to develop his heel champion reign.

Even right now with Batista, it seems like they think that Batista can't be champion anymore and the belt has to go back to Triple H. Honestly, give the guy more opponents and let him hold the title for a bit longer. It's not gonna hurt anything if he's the champion for a little while longer.....

I agree. Batista has tons of challengers for a lengthy reign: Edge, Randy Orton (whe he comes back), Jericho, Christian, Benoit. That's at least a year of programs.

The thing with Batista is they have no faith in him due to his age and the fact he is a 5 spot guy,I think they will put the title on Edge come Summerslam and see if he can play top heel

Age and his limited skills are factors against him. Still I prefer to see him as Champion. I hope Edge gets the chance of getting to the top heel level. Let us hope for the best.

[JINoside]

Dam it. Pre-Orders are now available for the '101 Reasons Not to be a pro wrestler' DVD and they have a New 6 min trailer out now. I was downloading from the site to see it but all of a sudden the sites not working. I guess its getting hit pretty hard right now:o. Bandwith must be through the roof. I hope someone atleast knows what i'm talking about:o.....

http://www.hollymoodentertainment.com/

[3dman27]

If the PPV proves to be extremely popular, I wouldn't be surprised to see ECW become a bit more permanent.....i hope it does

[Twitch]

If ECW doesn't come back, might as well get the Rise and Fall of ECW DVD

[The Techno Bat]

Dam it. Pre-Orders are now available for the '101 Reasons Not to be a pro wrestler' DVD and they have a New 6 min trailer out now. I was downloading from the site to see it but all of a sudden the sites not working. I guess its getting hit pretty hard right now:o. Bandwith must be through the roof. I hope someone atleast knows what i'm talking about:o.....

http://www.hollymoodentertainment.com/

thanks for posting this. I was wondering when the complete movie would be out. I am interested in what Vampiro has to say he is da man

[GLfan]

Preview of Tonight's Smackdown

Official WWE Smackdown Preview for 5/26/05:

In one of the bloodiest battles in sports-entertainment history, John Cena successfully defended his WWE Championship against JBL in an “I Quit” Match at Judgment Day. Despite walking away the victor, Cena took a physical pounding while losing an incalculable amount of blood. His opponent, JBL, did the same. What condition will these two Superstars be in when SmackDown! rolls into Milwaukee?

This past Sunday at Judgment Day, Carilto used some assistance from Matt Morgan to defeat Big Show. What will the cocky host of Carlito’s Cabana have to say about his victory over the much larger Show? Who will this week’s guest on the Cabana be? Tune in to SmackDown! on Thursday night (UPN, 8/7 CT) to find out.

Also at Judgment Day, Paul London successfully defended his Cruiserweight Championship against Chavo Guerrero in a thrilling match. This week on SmackDown!, London puts the championship on the line against Guerrero in a match that is guaranteed to be action packed. Can Guerrero ground the high-flying London and re-capture the Cruiserweight Championship? Or will London once again turn back his challenger?

Also, WWE Tag Team Champions MNM will battle Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas in another highly-anticipated Judgment Day rematch.

[The Techno Bat]

Preview of Tonight's Smackdown

Official WWE Smackdown Preview for 5/26/05:

In one of the bloodiest battles in sports-entertainment history, John Cena successfully defended his WWE Championship against JBL in an “I Quit” Match at Judgment Day. Despite walking away the victor, Cena took a physical pounding while losing an incalculable amount of blood. His opponent, JBL, did the same. What condition will these two Superstars be in when SmackDown! rolls into Milwaukee?

This past Sunday at Judgment Day, Carilto used some assistance from Matt Morgan to defeat Big Show. What will the cocky host of Carlito’s Cabana have to say about his victory over the much larger Show? Who will this week’s guest on the Cabana be? Tune in to SmackDown! on Thursday night (UPN, 8/7 CT) to find out.

Also at Judgment Day, Paul London successfully defended his Cruiserweight Championship against Chavo Guerrero in a thrilling match. This week on SmackDown!, London puts the championship on the line against Guerrero in a match that is guaranteed to be action packed. Can Guerrero ground the high-flying London and re-capture the Cruiserweight Championship? Or will London once again turn back his challenger?

Also, WWE Tag Team Champions MNM will battle Hardcore Holly & Charlie Haas in another highly-anticipated Judgment Day rematch.

So smackdown is going to be rematches of Judgement Day? I guess I won't be watching, sounds boring...YAWN!

[Jason Blood]

There's going to be a Battle Royal with the winner picking his dream match opponent for next week

I'm really watching so I can see Matt Morgan F-5 Big Show

I remember when Matt Morgan was billed the new Next Big Thing when Heyman came around

I wish Heyman was still around to push him

Matt Morgan has potential

[LastSunrise1981]

I hope that's the case.



Absolutely! Too bad he didn't get the chance to develop his heel champion reign.



I agree. Batista has tons of challengers for a lengthy reign: Edge, Randy Orton (whe he comes back), Jericho, Christian, Benoit. That's at least a year of programs.



Age and his limited skills are factors against him. Still I prefer to see him as Champion. I hope Edge gets the chance of getting to the top heel level. Let us hope for the best.

I'm worried about anyone getting the belt to be honest. Because eventually it goes back to Ego Big Nose H.

Raw has numerous of guys to challenge for the title. You have Jericho, Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Orton, Edge, Kane, Benoit, Tajiri(He deserves a bigger push), and HBK(He can still wrestle and is exciting to watch).

I believe the draft(hopefully) will help RAW and Smackdown with their rosters. It's become evident that RAW doesn't have enough wrestlers, but Ego H needs to be sent FAR AWAY someplace else.

Maybe an alien tripod can invade Earth and abduct him? Then again, H's ego is so big he'll hold down the aliens and win every match in space, despite their higher intelligence and advanced technology.

I would LOVE to see Edge get it, and that's simply due to the fact that he's a great heel and has tons of potential. I've loved the character since he made his debut into the WWF/WWE and I knew one day he would be champion.

ANYONE other than Ego H should have the belt. Just please, please Vince no more Ego H as the champion, we've seen it enough and it's getting staler and staler by the minute.

[John Constantine]

There's going to be a Battle Royal with the winner picking his dream match opponent for next week

I'm really watching so I can see Matt Morgan F-5 Big Show

I remember when Matt Morgan was billed the new Next Big Thing when Heyman came around

I wish Heyman was still around to push him

Matt Morgan has potential

Yeah, he sure does. I could see him competing for the US title soon. Or he and Carlito could form a tag team and help to bring some depth back into that division :up:

[Jason Blood]

MNM is the best thing to happen to Smackdown's tag-division

We need teams like Los Guerreros and the WGTT (best ever)

[John Constantine]

Carlito and Morgan might make a good tag team :up:

I just think there needs to be a few more tag teams in the division.....I mean there can't always be MNM fighting Haas/Holly or Moore/Scotty 2 Hotty every week..:confused:

[Jason Blood]

the wierd thing about Haas and Holly is that they've been built up as a tag team from Velocity

I remember thinking those were the only two people around a long time ago that could possibly team with each other

[John Constantine]

It's too bad they've been stuck on Velocity for so long that when they do wrestle on SD, they're seen as nothing more than jobbers....:(

Speaking of Velocity, it appears that that show and Heat have been cancelled :confused:

[Jason Blood]

There's no way they can take Velocity away from me:mad:

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I hope it's just BS. I mean the WWE's always had a B-show....it'll be so boring with just SD and Raw as the only WWE programs on tv :confused: :(

[Jason Blood]

they would have to cut the roster in order to make up for it

[Go Web Go!]

Smackdown results: Haas & Holly def. MNM via DQ; London def. Chavo; Big Show def. Carlito; Kurt Angle wins the Battle Royal (winner gets to have match of choice next week. His choice: Mrs. Booker)

It's amazing how bad these shows get on a weekly basis.4 matches in 2 hours with 3 of them being rematches from last weeks CRAP PPV. Seriously, when will they learn?

[Jason Blood]

I want to see the battle royal very bad

you can always tell how much the WWE likes someone by the way/time they are eliminated

[The Techno Bat]

Carlito and Morgan might make a good tag team :up:

I just think there needs to be a few more tag teams in the division.....I mean there can't always be MNM fighting Haas/Holly or Moore/Scotty 2 Hotty every week..:confused:

why not RAW did it week in and week out with La Resistance fighting Tajiri and Regal

[Sabretooth]

Goddamn Booker T's wife is annoying.Booker was so much better without her.

[Go Web Go!]

I can't believe I'm watching Smackdown. Why did I have to get sick? Ah! And why did the baseball game have to be on rain delay? This is the first time I watch in months and I'm already sick to my stomach. Thanks in part to Booker T and Mrs. Booker's kissy-kissy routine. And how annoying is that "Damn skippy, hippie'' line? Geez..

[Sabretooth]

Actually,they're not as annoying as Cena and his ass kissing routine.I can't believe people are actually cheering him like he's Batista right now.....

[Go Web Go!]

I can put up with Batista, but I can't stand Cena. Man, somebody cut off this guys mic.

[Savage]

What channel is everybody watching this on? I got a baseball game here.

[Sabretooth]

I can put up with Batista, but I can't stand Cena. Man, somebody cut off this guys mic.
Nonono,I'm not saying anything bad about Batista,I'm just saying they give Cena a standing ovation like they do with Batista.I wish he'd stop relying on the people and just try and go back to his raps.His REAL raps.

[Sabretooth]

What channel is everybody watching this on? I got a baseball game here.
Don't worry.Your really not missing much.

[Donnie Darko]

anybody have an idea about whether or not the Dudley Boyz will be back for ECW One Night Stand? They would be a top selling point to me.

[Go Web Go!]

Is anyone still watching this? Morgan just F5'd the Big Show and what does Cole say? That he's NEVER seen anyone do that to the Big Show. Hey, jerkoff...Does Brock Lesnar ring a bell? Are the fans just supposed to forget about that?

[Sabretooth]

Oh,but of course,Cole could never mention Lensar,even though it was originally his move.

[Sabretooth]

anybody have an idea about whether or not the Dudley Boyz will be back for ECW One Night Stand? They would be a top selling point to me.
I would think.If they don't,I wonder when the hell they will.They've been out for like a year.

[Donnie Darko]

I'm gonna be pissed if Mysterio wins this battle royal. As great as their matches are, we really don't need another Rey-Eddie match next week. I'd rather see something new.

[Donnie Darko]

damn it... I really wanted Angle to win, but this is just absurd

[Go Web Go!]

Oh,but of course,Cole could never mention Lensar,even though it was originally his move.

I guess we're supposed to forget about him like we're supposed to forget that Kane had "severe burns."

[car2nin]

I used to watch the old NWA ALL the time! Ric Flair, The Nature boy in his prime! Gene and Ole and then Arn Anderson! Steamboat! The Russians, etc. Even though there are some great wrestlers nowadays with great potential, the business itself under Vince is crap! And of course WCW all ready smelled like yesterdays diapers when Vince bought them out. Thank God I got my old tapes!

[Donnie Darko]

I feel that... me and my older brother still watch out 80s NWA tapes

[LastSunrise1981]

I guess we're supposed to forget about him like we're supposed to forget that Kane had "severe burns."

Apparently the WWE thinks we're stupid and believes we're supposed to forget the obvious.

For example, remember when Edge and Christian were brothers? Now in the WWE they're just known as "partners".

As you said Kane was supposed to have severe burns. Remember when he fell into the fire? He came back without a scratch/burn on him?

The WWE isn't consistent with their angles. The fact that they play us like we're stupid is laughable, unfortunatley, I didn't hear the commentary with Michael Cole saying that Morgan F-5ing the Big Show has never been done.

Uh, Cole, remember during Survivor Series when Brock gave Big Show the F-5 for the first time? Then gave him the F-5 on to a table? Then suplexed him off of the top rope which made the ring collapse? Oh wait, sorry, we're stupid WWE fans and we're not supposed to remember all of that.

You know what I'm more concerned about? Even though the Undertaker has an undefeated streak for Wrestlemania, it appears that they're trying to start some undefeated streak with Ego H. For example, I don't remember Ego H EVER losing a Hell In A Cell match up at all, now the question becomes, will they build him up as an unstoppable force during a Hell In A Cell? Because if that EVER comes to fruition, then I might just gag and throw my hands up in disgust.

[GLfan]

I used to watch the old NWA ALL the time! Ric Flair, The Nature boy in his prime! Gene and Ole and then Arn Anderson! Steamboat! The Russians, etc. Even though there are some great wrestlers nowadays with great potential, the business itself under Vince is crap! And of course WCW all ready smelled like yesterdays diapers when Vince bought them out. Thank God I got my old tapes!I agree with you 100%. Don't forget about The Road Warrios, Dusty Rhodes, Magnum T.A., Wahoo McDaniel, Tully Blanchard w/Baby Doll, The Midnight Express, The Rock and Roll Express, The Garvins, Manny Fernandez, and many more I probably forgot. I have to dig my old tapes out and watch the real Great American Bash '86 and '87. Starrcade and The Crocket Cup were good too.

[TheS4ndman]

Anyone haf vince Mcmahons entrance music lyrics or song for that matter???

Anyway back on topic, why are u guys always talking bout Smackdown?
Raw is pretty ok i guess, though muhhamad hassan and deevaree vs hhh and hbk was
pretty cool.But wrestling is pretty much lackluster now.Anyone know what happened to the rock?(i noe he is an actor now but will he continue wrestling anytime soon?)

[Bad Superman]

I'm worried about anyone getting the belt to be honest. Because eventually it goes back to Ego Big Nose H.

Raw has numerous of guys to challenge for the title. You have Jericho, Christian, Shelton Benjamin, Orton, Edge, Kane, Benoit, Tajiri(He deserves a bigger push), and HBK(He can still wrestle and is exciting to watch).

I believe the draft(hopefully) will help RAW and Smackdown with their rosters. It's become evident that RAW doesn't have enough wrestlers, but Ego H needs to be sent FAR AWAY someplace else.

Maybe an alien tripod can invade Earth and abduct him? Then again, H's ego is so big he'll hold down the aliens and win every match in space, despite their higher intelligence and advanced technology.

I would LOVE to see Edge get it, and that's simply due to the fact that he's a great heel and has tons of potential. I've loved the character since he made his debut into the WWF/WWE and I knew one day he would be champion.

ANYONE other than Ego H should have the belt. Just please, please Vince no more Ego H as the champion, we've seen it enough and it's getting staler and staler by the minute.

ROFL. Totally agree with you. Edge and all the other wrestlers you mentioned should be given the chance to develop and take WWE to the next level.

[kane9321]

melina is now the only reason I watch smacdown

[Bad Superman]

Speaking of tag-teams, is it me or does anyone else miss the tag-team scene?

Ah the memories: The British Bulldogs, Demolition, The Four Horsemen, The Midnight Express, The Fabulous Freebirds, The Steiners, The Hart Foundation, The New Age Outlaws and others. . .

[3dman27]

What channel is everybody watching this on? I got a baseball game here.
sometimes the preemptions are for LOCAL sports basketball ,football etc,

[John Constantine]

There's word that TNA might have reached a deal with WGN that will allow them to have a show on Mondays....I think it sounds like bull****,but if it's true, Monday nights might be interesting again....

[Metamorpho1977]

professional wrestling died with Gordon Solie. All that's left now is a shell of a once great entertainment vehicle.

[Metamorpho1977]

I hope so, I love TNA. They have the best actual wrestling on TV right now.

[Jason Blood]

now that dusty is no longer booking I can watch TNA again

Raven's not being in the King of the Mountain match sucks:(

[3dman27]

has anyone had trouble visiting www.lordsofpain.net?i've tried 5 times today and all i gets a white page unless they're down for maintenence i can't see why

[Lobo]

I missed Smackdown because of the Yankee game. They won so that makes up for it, but It will air saturday in NY should I watch it?




Dawn Marie is pregnant :eek:

[Jason Blood]

There's word that TNA might have reached a deal with WGN that will allow them to have a show on Mondays....I think it sounds like bull****,but if it's true, Monday nights might be interesting again....

I heard that it will start after Slamiversary or however it's spelled

from 8-10 we can watch TNA on mondays:D

[Jason Blood]

I just realized that Benoit has had the whole 4 real thing going, but he hasn't been doing anything with it

oh yeah Carlito's shirt has red print as opposed to green (as in apple color and stuff)

[Go Web Go!]

I'm the father of Dawn Marie's child. And another thing, John Cena FU'd the Big Show. Basically the same as the F5, so that makes 3...

[Jason Blood]

I'm the father of Dawn Marie's child.
that would make you Pat Kenney

And another thing, John Cena FU'd the Big Show.
Ewww

Basically the same as the F5, so that makes 3...
I think they mean't he hadn't been F-5'ed through an announce table

[Donnie Darko]

I agree with you 100%. Don't forget about The Road Warrios, Dusty Rhodes, Magnum T.A., Wahoo McDaniel, Tully Blanchard w/Baby Doll, The Midnight Express, The Rock and Roll Express, The Garvins, Manny Fernandez, and many more I probably forgot. I have to dig my old tapes out and watch the real Great American Bash '86 and '87. Starrcade and The Crocket Cup were good too.

They should bring back the Crocket Cup, allowing teams from different companies to compete. I would love to see teams from Raw, Smackdown, TNA, and whoever else could get involved square off in a tag team tournament.

Also, I would mind them bringing back that thing they used to do in WCW... the Lethal Lottery I think. Randomly select partners and have them compete with the winners going into a battle royal for a shot at the title.

Or screw all that and bring back damn King of the Ring!!!!!

[Jason Blood]

I'm missing TNA for ****ing COLLEGE BASEBALL

[Go Web Go!]

I'm pretty sure Lesnar F5'd the Big Show through a table. Maybe I'm wrong.

[John Constantine]

that would make you Pat Kenney


The former Simon Diamond? Didn't the two split up due to Dawn Marie sleeping around a lot? :confused:

[PyroChamber]

Remember last year's draft when Smackdown selected Triple H?

Do you think Smackdown would be like Raw is now if he stayed there? Because was a cop out by making him stay on Raw.

[Sabretooth]

I hope The Undertaker turns heel before he retires.They need some new challengers for Cena.JBL and Cena's thing has gone on for waaaaaaaaaayy too long.ANd they might as well do something with him.I'll be pissed if he goes out with this crappy gimmick where he does that ''rare appearance'' thing.

[Jason Blood]

The former Simon Diamond? Didn't the two split up due to Dawn Marie sleeping around a lot? :confused:

I did not know that

[Spider-Nerd]

I hope so, I love TNA. They have the best actual wrestling on TV right now.
not gonna be on fox sports net for much longer. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Jason Blood]

you talking about the deal with WGN?

[John Constantine]

I did not know that

Yeah, that's what I heard. I also read an interview by Jasmine St. Claire one time that totally blasted Dawn Marie for doing that and saying that Kenney was smart to leave her....

[John Constantine]

not gonna be on fox sports net for much longer. Enjoy it while it lasts.

It's gonna hopefully be on Monday nights though....so that might help to bring back the Monday night wars :up:

[PyroChamber]

Yeah, that's what I heard. I also read an interview by Jasmine St. Claire one time that totally blasted Dawn Marie for doing that and saying that Kenney was smart to leave her....I actually read that interview, and I thought it was funny that she blasted Dawn Marie yet she's the one who was a pornstar.

[John Constantine]

I think she was blasting Dawn Marie for it because she was using that to get to the top....

[Jason Blood]

It's gonna hopefully be on Monday nights though....so that might help to bring back the Monday night wars :up:
it's scheduled for 8-10 on Mondays

it's gonna be great!

[John Constantine]

Has it been confirmed yet by an actual source? I read it on a wrestling board, but I really haven't seen an actual confirmation that it's true or not. :confused:

[Jason Blood]

Credit: ChrisMurray of BetweenTheRopes.com Message Board

Sources have confirmed to Between The Ropes the following details on TNA Wrestling's television future.

This Tuesday's TNA Impact tapings on May 31 at Universal Orlando are cancelled. With the Fox Sports Net deal expiring this weekend, television will go dark temporarily.

As we've speculated all week, TNA will begin on Monday nights in prime time on WGN from 8:00pm - 10:00pm ET. The start date on WGN will be the day after Slammiversary - Monday, June 20.

The WGN show will air live every other week on Monday's from Universal Orlando. Shows will be taped on Tuesday's to then air the following week. The first live show will be Monday, June 20 with a taping on June 21 to air on Monday, June 27 on WGN.

TNA should make an official announcement imminently.

[John Constantine]

I await the official announcement :up:

And putting the show on Mondays might actually help to force the WWE to make their product a bit better. Something I've been looking for since WCW died.

[Jason Blood]

I hope they make good decisions if they decide to cut anyone

Matt is going to be the hottest property on the Indy scene

I do remember hearing something about Jeff being booed out of ROH after everyone chanted "We want Matt!"

[JINoside]

I asked this somewhere else and i hope i get an answer here. What channel is WGN?......

[Jason Blood]

it depends upon your cable provider

WGN is a cable network that started off as WB Chicago or something like that

[Go Web Go!]

I hope The Undertaker turns heel before he retires.They need some new challengers for Cena.JBL and Cena's thing has gone on for waaaaaaaaaayy too long.ANd they might as well do something with him.I'll be pissed if he goes out with this crappy gimmick where he does that ''rare appearance'' thing.

The Undertaker doesn't deserve to be on Smackdown. His career is coming to a close. He doesn't need to be wasting his time on the talent (or lack there of) that the show has to offer. A program with Eddie, Angle, or even Big Show (although I wouldn't want to see it) would work. Other than them, what do you have? Ok, Cena, JBL, but it's been done. Both are pretty recent too.

I hope that they move him in the upcoming draft to RAW where there are alot more possibilities. Batista, Benoit, Edge, Michaels (would be nice to see after their history), Shelton, Triple H, maybe Christian. Those are just a few. Hell, I'd rather watch The Undertaker wrestle Ric Flair over anyone on Smackdown (except Angle and Eddie.) Move the guy and give him a nice run because he's the last of a dying breed.

[LastSunrise1981]

ROFL. Totally agree with you. Edge and all the other wrestlers you mentioned should be given the chance to develop and take WWE to the next level.

Maybe we can have Lita tempt Ego H? :o

I don't wish for anything bad to happen to the guy, but, what do you think?

[LastSunrise1981]

The Undertaker doesn't deserve to be on Smackdown. His career is coming to a close. He doesn't need to be wasting his time on the talent (or lack there of) that the show has to offer. A program with Eddie, Angle, or even Big Show (although I wouldn't want to see it) would work. Other than them, what do you have? Ok, Cena, JBL, but it's been done. Both are pretty recent too.

I hope that they move him in the upcoming draft to RAW where there are alot more possibilities. Batista, Benoit, Edge, Michaels (would be nice to see after their history), Shelton, Triple H, maybe Christian. Those are just a few. Hell, I'd rather watch The Undertaker wrestle Ric Flair over anyone on Smackdown (except Angle and Eddie.) Move the guy and give him a nice run because he's the last of a dying breed.

I have a better idea. Why not just have Raw be the HHH show where they can feed him jobbers and past their prime wrestlers.

Then for Smackdown you can have nothing but Jericho, Edge, Mysterio, Cena, Eddie Guerrero, Batista, Randy Orton, Christian, Shawn Michaels, Booker T, Angle, Tajiri, Regal, Hurricane, Shelton Benjamin, Hassan, Paul London, Chavo Guerrero, Spike Dudley, and many other up and coming young superstars who are the future.

Oh, speaking of which, I found this on the Chris Jericho Message Board.

Source: Wade Keller/PWTorch

-- According to several people backstage, there has been a quiet rivalry between Triple H and John Cena brewing for quite some time. The backstage consensus is that Triple H feels Cena isn't dedicated enough to his position, and is not good enough of a leader to be the champion. On Cena's side, there is a feeling among a number of people that he just doesn't like Triple H very much in general. Despite their problems, the two still act pleasantly when around each other.

It is likely that the two will be kept on separate shows during the WWE roster draft, in order to keep everyone happy. Many feel that in order for John Cena's star power to grow to it's full potential, he needs to be on the show that Triple H is not on.


Ego H sure has a lot of room to talk. :rolleyes:

Cena> Ego H

[Metamorpho1977]

The Undertaker doesn't deserve to be on Smackdown. His career is coming to a close. He doesn't need to be wasting his time on the talent (or lack there of) that the show has to offer. A program with Eddie, Angle, or even Big Show (although I wouldn't want to see it) would work. Other than them, what do you have? Ok, Cena, JBL, but it's been done. Both are pretty recent too.

I hope that they move him in the upcoming draft to RAW where there are alot more possibilities. Batista, Benoit, Edge, Michaels (would be nice to see after their history), Shelton, Triple H, maybe Christian. Those are just a few. Hell, I'd rather watch The Undertaker wrestle Ric Flair over anyone on Smackdown (except Angle and Eddie.) Move the guy and give him a nice run because he's the last of a dying breed.

One of Undertaker's best match was against Ric Flair. Remember when Arn Anderson and gave Undertaker that awesome spinebuster?

[Henry Hill]

Just bought WM 21 on DVD. I wish I had seen it on paper view, it's an excellent one. IMO it's the best since 17.

[Twitch]

The Undertaker doesn't deserve to be on Smackdown. His career is coming to a close. He doesn't need to be wasting his time on the talent (or lack there of) that the show has to offer. A program with Eddie, Angle, or even Big Show (although I wouldn't want to see it) would work. Other than them, what do you have? Ok, Cena, JBL, but it's been done. Both are pretty recent too.

I hope that they move him in the upcoming draft to RAW where there are alot more possibilities. Batista, Benoit, Edge, Michaels (would be nice to see after their history), Shelton, Triple H, maybe Christian. Those are just a few. Hell, I'd rather watch The Undertaker wrestle Ric Flair over anyone on Smackdown (except Angle and Eddie.) Move the guy and give him a nice run because he's the last of a dying breed.

I totally agree with you. The only thing I don't want to see (unless its done perfectly.) is feud with Kane. I mean how many times have we seen that?

[Twitch]

I have a better idea. Why not just have Raw be the HHH show where they can feed him jobbers and past their prime wrestlers.

Then for Smackdown you can have nothing but Jericho, Edge, Mysterio, Cena, Eddie Guerrero, Batista, Randy Orton, Christian, Shawn Michaels, Booker T, Angle, Tajiri, Regal, Hurricane, Shelton Benjamin, Hassan, Paul London, Chavo Guerrero, Spike Dudley, and many other up and coming young superstars who are the future.

Oh, speaking of which, I found this on the Chris Jericho Message Board.

Source: Wade Keller/PWTorch

-- According to several people backstage, there has been a quiet rivalry between Triple H and John Cena brewing for quite some time. The backstage consensus is that Triple H feels Cena isn't dedicated enough to his position, and is not good enough of a leader to be the champion. On Cena's side, there is a feeling among a number of people that he just doesn't like Triple H very much in general. Despite their problems, the two still act pleasantly when around each other.

It is likely that the two will be kept on separate shows during the WWE roster draft, in order to keep everyone happy. Many feel that in order for John Cena's star power to grow to it's full potential, he needs to be on the show that Triple H is not on.


Ego H sure has a lot of room to talk. :rolleyes:

Cena> Ego H

Speaking of which I want JBL to go to Raw and feud with HHH. The wrestling god vs. The Ego

[Hunter Rider]

Source: Wade Keller/PWTorch

-- According to several people backstage, there has been a quiet rivalry between Triple H and John Cena brewing for quite some time. The backstage consensus is that Triple H feels Cena isn't dedicated enough to his position, and is not good enough of a leader to be the champion. On Cena's side, there is a feeling among a number of people that he just doesn't like Triple H very much in general. Despite their problems, the two still act pleasantly when around each other.

It is likely that the two will be kept on separate shows during the WWE roster draft, in order to keep everyone happy. Many feel that in order for John Cena's star power to grow to it's full potential, he needs to be on the show that Triple H is not on.

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ

Even though the photos featuring Matt Hardy's gun are obviously meant to further his "Angelic Diablo" character, the captions attached to the images are haunting nonetheless:

"It's very wise to be on my good side."
"I will scar the corrupt and guilty-- by any means necessary."

While those can't be viewed as actual threats, the situation in which Matt Hardy's been involved makes offering such quotes - while holding a gun - rather disturbing.


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[Twitch]

Weird gimmick hopes it work well on the field

BTW make your sig smaller new rules say you have

[Sabretooth]

The Undertaker doesn't deserve to be on Smackdown. His career is coming to a close. He doesn't need to be wasting his time on the talent (or lack there of) that the show has to offer. A program with Eddie, Angle, or even Big Show (although I wouldn't want to see it) would work. Other than them, what do you have? Ok, Cena, JBL, but it's been done. Both are pretty recent too.

I hope that they move him in the upcoming draft to RAW where there are alot more possibilities. Batista, Benoit, Edge, Michaels (would be nice to see after their history), Shelton, Triple H, maybe Christian. Those are just a few. Hell, I'd rather watch The Undertaker wrestle Ric Flair over anyone on Smackdown (except Angle and Eddie.) Move the guy and give him a nice run because he's the last of a dying breed.
Only problem is they might use some of those midcarders as people for 'Taker to squash.But still,he really must go to Raw.And,since he has a part time schedule,I won't have to worry about him and HHH going and going and going for the title.:up:

[Sabretooth]

I heard somewhere that Matt's Angelic DIablo character has this thing where he says ''The scar WILL become a symbol!''

[Jason Blood]

I heard somewhere that Matt's Angelic DIablo character has this thing where he says ''The scar WILL become a symbol!''

He had taped promos with WWE before they cut him

[Go Web Go!]

I totally agree with you. The only thing I don't want to see (unless its done perfectly.) is feud with Kane. I mean how many times have we seen that?

I wouldn't want to see them feud again either, but I believe The Undertaker's last match (unless it's a title match) should be against Kane. Maybe "pass the torch" to his "brother."

[3dman27]

angelic diablo? whats that?

[Jason Blood]

angelic diablo? whats that?

sounds stupid to me

[John Constantine]

From WZ

Even though the photos featuring Matt Hardy's gun are obviously meant to further his "Angelic Diablo" character, the captions attached to the images are haunting nonetheless:

"It's very wise to be on my good side."
"I will scar the corrupt and guilty-- by any means necessary."

While those can't be viewed as actual threats, the situation in which Matt Hardy's been involved makes offering such quotes - while holding a gun - rather disturbing.


Watch out Edge! :eek: :D :D

[Twitch]

I wouldn't want to see them feud again either, but I believe The Undertaker's last match (unless it's a title match) should be against Kane. Maybe "pass the torch" to his "brother."

Yeah I see that happening. IMO Undertaker should have the title now when he comes back. He would have it before he went out but no Heiden had to screw him twice. :wolverine

[LastSunrise1981]

Watch out Edge! :eek: :D :D

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Dude, I saw we lock these two in a room and advertise it for a PPV.

:cool:

[John Constantine]

Hey, the buyrates for that might exceed the buyrates for the PPVs that are not Survivor Series, Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, and Summerslam.....:D

[Sabretooth]

Problem would be actually getting them in the ring.Vince would have to seriously shell out money for Matt to maybe even consider wrestling Edge.

Still,it would kick ass if they put them in the ring and just said ''Go!'' and let them do whatever the hell they wanted to do to each other with no scripts or holding back:up:

[Pink Ranger]

Problem would be actually getting them in the ring.Vince would have to seriously shell out money for Matt to maybe even consider wrestling Edge.

Still,it would kick ass if they put them in the ring and just said ''Go!'' and let them do whatever the hell they wanted to do to each other with no scripts or holding back:up:

With Edge's injury record, it's be a short fight.

[brainchild81]

Yeah I see that happening. IMO Undertaker should have the title now when he comes back. He would have it before he went out but no Heiden had to screw him twice. :wolverineHe should just retire.

[The Undertaker]

He should just retire.

Not at all..

[The Techno Bat]

I hate the Undertaker! Always have and Always will, nothing could change my opinion of him.

[LastSunrise1981]

Undertaker used to be one of my favorite wrestlers. I LOVED his old gimmick and it used to scare the piss out of me, for me, it's one of those specific characters that never gets old.

Unlike Ego H, Undertaker hasn't really gotten stale on me. He still remains fresh and unique, especially considering his age and even though he's made opponents look bad in the past and future, at least he can make a match believable and proves he can still wrestle with the best.

[brainchild81]

Not at all..Either he should retire or start putting people over. He's had a good career. Now it's time to prepare the next generation. I don't think he should've beaten Booker T or RVD. His best days are FAR behind him.

[John Constantine]

Problem would be actually getting them in the ring.Vince would have to seriously shell out money for Matt to maybe even consider wrestling Edge.

Still,it would kick ass if they put them in the ring and just said ''Go!'' and let them do whatever the hell they wanted to do to each other with no scripts or holding back:up:

I dunno, I bet Matt would probably jump at the opportunity to kick Edge's ass...he's probably even do it for free ;) :D

I could see it happening a few years from now, when all this has cooled down a little.....:o :)

[John Constantine]

BTW, here are some of the confirmed matches for ECW:One Night Stand:

Lance Storm with Dawn Marie vs Chris Jericho

Extreme luchador action:
Rey Mysterio vs Psychosis

A three way dance:
The insane luchador Super Crazy vs Tajiri with Sinister Minister vs Little Guido

Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Benoit

Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman vs Bubba & D-Von Dudley


And some additional wrestlers to appear will be RVD, Al Snow with Head (hell yeah!!), Sabu (:up: ), Balls Mahoney, Danny Doring and Roadkill, CW Anderson, Rhyno (hopefully they'll go with Rhino in the PPV), Joel Gertner (hopefully they'll also get Joey STyles and have those two announce), Axl Rotten, Justin Credible, Kid Kash, Masato Tanaka, Mikey Whipwreck, and the bWo (hahahahhaha :D )

You know what would be interesting? If Simon Dean becomes one of those Raw wrestlers who goes with Bischoff to "invade" the PPV. Then right in the beginning, he turns on Bischoff and reverts back to Nova. That might be an interesting way to reform the bWo.....

[3dman27]

yes it would
but about dawn marie is she expecting in real life maybe she should skip the ecw ppv if something happend to her there and caused her to miscarry [as in the lita pregnancy storyline] the wwe who OWN ecw could be held liable

[Super Kal]

does anyone know what Bill Goldberg is up to right now?

[LastSunrise1981]

does anyone know what Bill Goldberg is up to right now?

Goldberg recently got married and is enjoying life outside of wrestling. He mentioned working for the WWE has soured him, in which he made mention that they're a bunch of morons and he doesn't intend on going back.

He also said he would've loved to have had a match with Austin, however, due to Austin's neck problems it will never happen unfortunatley.

[Super Kal]

i also found out that he's doing a show called Auto Maniac on the History channel

[The Undertaker]

Either he should retire or start putting people over. He's had a good career. Now it's time to prepare the next generation. I don't think he should've beaten Booker T or RVD. His best days are FAR behind him.

Sure, let him put people over, why not.. it's just I don't see why people say he should retire. Ofcourse the dude is getting old but for somebody his age and size, he's one hell of a wrestler. He's better than half the locker room easily and still brings what the crowds want. When the day comes where he can't keep up with the new guys then I'd say it's time for him to retire, but I have yet to see that.

I actually think he did a good job with RVD when he was a heel champion, he completely made RVD look superior to him, making everybody believe that if it came down to it RVD could beat him. But it was a Raw and we all known it is very very very rare someone wins a title there, especially the world.

Booker, eh.. not a fan, usually my piss break when he wrestles, although he isn't the worst.

Heindenreich i'm glad he didnt put over, the guy si just bad and didnt even deserve to start out with Taker'. I cringed at their matches, I only watched them cause' i'm a Taker fan but I can't stomach the guy. They give this ass major ppv's and ppv matches but they keep Maven on Heat.

I would have been fine with them putting Orton over Taker BUT not a Wrestlemania which i'm glad they didn't. If either of them didn't leave after WM i'm sure they would have had a rematch and I wouldn't have cared if Orton won.. just WM is Taker's night.

When it comes to Taker now that I know his career isn't going to go on THAT much longer I'd at least love to see one more title reign before his retirement.. thats all I ask for, and keep his WM streak dammit!

[Donnie Darko]

I really wouldn't mind seeing Taker bow out next year after WM. I say they build him up in one last feud and have it climax in something like a Hell in a Cell, which he of course wins. Maybe after the match have him stand on top of the cage and let the crowd pour their respects and appreciation onto him, or have guys from the locker room come out and show respect. Some kind of tribute to his career.

[Sabretooth]

I think the real reason Taker slowed down is because of his hips and his knees.That damn Tombstone Piledriver just isn't helping him at all.:(

It really will be a dark day when he retires.Once he's gone,HBK is next.:(

[Sabretooth]

I really wouldn't mind seeing Taker bow out next year after WM. I say they build him up in one last feud and have it climax in something like a Hell in a Cell, which he of course wins. Maybe after the match have him stand on top of the cage and let the crowd pour their respects and appreciation onto him, or have guys from the locker room come out and show respect. Some kind of tribute to his career.
I don't know,that sounds more like something the other wrestlers would do for HBK.

It'll be very interesting how Taker goes out though.I just hope they don't have him retire by being ''Buried Alive''

[The Techno Bat]

does anyone know what Bill Goldberg is up to right now?

He was on the best damn sports show last week promoting The Longest Yard and Vince McMahon was in the crowd, and when Goldberg came out the entire audience was chanting "GOLDBERG! GOLDBERG!" Vince had a grin on his face.

Also Goldberg hosted some sort of Biker Build off awards show a few weeks back...

[The Techno Bat]

I don't know,that sounds more like something the other wrestlers would do for HBK.

It'll be very interesting how Taker goes out though.I just hope they don't have him retire by being ''Buried Alive''

The best way for him Taker to leave would be for nobody to draft him and force him to leave!

[Donnie Darko]

I don't know,that sounds more like something the other wrestlers would do for HBK.


hmmm I wonder how long it'll be before he goes. I'll definitely miss him. I can't think of a really good way for him to go out. Maybe him beating Triple-H or something like that. I don't think even HHH would have a big problem putting over his friend in his last match. The ideal match for HBK would be a ladder match, but that should involve a title, so that's out. I don't know. I love Shawn Michaels. Ha, I actually once told an old girlfriend that if we ever had a son, his first and middle names would be Shawn Michael.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah,I'm a fan of his too.Shame he gets pushed down to midcard though.:(

[brainchild81]

The best way for him Taker to leave would be for nobody to draft him and force him to leave!:) I've heard stories about him not wanting to put people over during the invasion. I'm not sure if they're true, but even if they aren't he should go. His gimmick can't be any more tired. He's still better than Kane, but that's not saying much.

[The Undertaker]

:) I've heard stories about him not wanting to put people over during the invasion. I'm not sure if they're true, but even if they aren't he should go. His gimmick can't be any more tired. He's still better than Kane, but that's not saying much.

You should really put "IMO" after those statements because there are still people out there who obviously don't believe that.

[brainchild81]

Nah. I think most people are smart enough to know I'm giving my opinion.

[Sabretooth]

You have to give Taker credit though,he's feuded with some of the worst wrestlers ever who don't deseve to be in the ring with him.:up:

[Savage]

Yeah and he still managed to make those guys look good.
I say he goes out in a way more supernatural, adding to the legend of The Undertaker(best gimmick ever. He's like the WWE's frickin boogeyman. To have him start putting random people over would go against his character imo. He IS the unbeatable, but he makes it entertaining. A feat no wrestler besides him it seems have been able to accomplish.).
I say the crowd goes wild, he walks to the entrance way, raises his hand, lightning flashes, and he's gone. The feud could be like the Ministry getting back together, maybe include Kane and have Ted Dibiase lead em. Hell, maybe include the rest of the Million Dollar Team(those available anyway). It would be the ultimate sendoff imo. Have him go out the way he came in. Undertaker's retirment should be frickin HUGE.

[Rainbowbrite]

I await the official announcement :up:

And putting the show on Mondays might actually help to force the WWE to make their product a bit better. Something I've been looking for since WCW died.


i agree with you, the wwe has been stale for a really long time and i think a little competition will light a fire under them. They will be forced to do new things that will make their product more interesting. I personally think its good for wwe but bad for TNA. TNA no offense,if they were to go up against the wwe would need to work alot on developing feuds. When I watch impact there is no development,its just you punched me from behind lets fight on pay per view. Hopefully, with more air time tna can make a show that "casual"
fans would want to tune into see.

[Sabretooth]

It really will be odd saying goodbye to him after he's been there for what seems like forever though.:( Still,I agree with that supernatural way of leaving. I'd also like for them to finally reveal a little bit more about his past (like what was in the urn,why he burned Kane,etc.)

Who should he face in his final match?

[Savage]

I say Kane because there is simply no-one more perfect for a match-up. The WWE has used this feud over and over again for a reason and that's because it's good and it works. Kane fights him with Paul Bearer at his side...Either them or the Ministry or Ted Dibiase's Million Dollar Team. Whoever it is has to have some kind of connection with Taker making the sendoff all the more special. He shouldn't just be fighting HHH or JBL or Vince or someone and he shouldn't be gyped like Austin(who imo should have fought McMahon for the last time or The Rock).

[Sabretooth]

Only problem is it's like WWE has something against Kane and they just keep crapping on him.:(

[Savage]

Yeah. The guy held the title for a day. A day! What was that?! I say he fights Undertaker and kind of replaces him but becomes a different kind of supernatural monster. More like a hulking, laughing demon than a quiet and brooding Phantom. The Undertaker and Kane are complete opposites. It should work imo. Having this guy running towards the ring(as opposed to walking slowly) just rippin people apart and kickin ass(as opposed to picking em apart one by one) just a completely new animal from the Undertaker. Make people fear him as much as the Undertaker but for different reasons. This guy really shouldn't be getting screwed over so much by "puny mortals" imo. I mean he's Taker's brother, not the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

I say they have one last big brawl that sets the bar for all matches after. Clash of the Titans and at the same time passing the torch. Right now however, I just want to see him beat the s**t out of Edge and remind people just who the f**k they're messin with.

[brainchild81]

Wrestling is bad enough as it is. 'taker needs retirement and Kane should be nothing more than a stepping stone for better wrestlers.

[The Techno Bat]

Why shouldn't the Undertaker put younger guys over? I think he should be forced to or give him the pink slip and show him the door. For example how great was Ric Flair? Perhaps the best wrestler ever and look at what he does. He puts guys over, he lost to Rico at one point. In order for the business to thrive and move on the older guys have to put the younger guys over, a prime example of that was the demise of WCW where every single older superstar refused to put the young guys over and when all the old guys left, nobody wanted to watch a product that featured mid to low card talent

[Sabretooth]

Yeah. The guy held the title for a day. A day! What was that?! I say he fights Undertaker and kind of replaces him but becomes a different kind of supernatural monster. More like a hulking, laughing demon than a quiet and brooding Phantom. The Undertaker and Kane are complete opposites. It should work imo. Having this guy running towards the ring(as opposed to walking slowly) just rippin people apart and kickin ass(as opposed to picking em apart one by one) just a completely new animal from the Undertaker. Make people fear him as much as the Undertaker but for different reasons. This guy really shouldn't be getting screwed over so much by "puny mortals" imo. I mean he's Taker's brother, not the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

I say they have one last big brawl that sets the bar for all matches after. Clash of the Titans and at the same time passing the torch. Right now however, I just want to see him beat the s**t out of Edge and remind people just who the f**k they're messin with.I think Kane should go to SD! maybe then he wouldn't get crapped on by the likes of HHH.

[The Techno Bat]

Only problem is it's like WWE has something against Kane and they just keep crapping on him.:(

I think with Kane he can be really lazy in the ring sometimes. And that probably hurts him.

[brainchild81]

Why shouldn't the Undertaker put younger guys over? I think he should be forced to or give him the pink slip and show him the door. For example how great was Ric Flair? Perhaps the best wrestler ever and look at what he does. He puts guys over, he lost to Rico at one point. In order for the business to thrive and move on the older guys have to put the younger guys over, a prime example of that was the demise of WCW where every single older superstar refused to put the young guys over and when all the old guys left, nobody wanted to watch a product that featured mid to low card talentGood post.

[Sabretooth]

Why shouldn't the Undertaker put younger guys over? I think he should be forced to or give him the pink slip and show him the door. For example how great was Ric Flair? Perhaps the best wrestler ever and look at what he does. He puts guys over, he lost to Rico at one point. In order for the business to thrive and move on the older guys have to put the younger guys over, a prime example of that was the demise of WCW where every single older superstar refused to put the young guys over and when all the old guys left, nobody wanted to watch a product that featured mid to low card talent
Undertaker EARNED everything he has today.He doesn't put younger guys over because he either doesn't think they're ready or they just don't deserve it.And I don't know about you,but if I was him, I wouldn't put them over either. It would also sorta weaken his character if he put them over too much.

[brainchild81]

Dude. His careers almost over. He had his days in the spotlight. Give somebody else a chance. People with egos like that are bringing the biz into a very bad place.

[Savage]

Yeah but I would prefer him go out great than go out with whimper. I mean "He was unbeatable! Then he started to suck a little.". Just doesn't seem right to me. I mean Taker is this big and powerful being that everyone is afraid of like, as I said, the bogeyman. To have him just losing out of nowhere to me would actually seem out of character. People usually beat him by cheating and I'm fine with that. But to have some guy like say Maven beat him to me is like having Jimmy Olsen beat Superman. Then everyone else sees how easy it is and start kickin the s**t out of him too. He should retire soon before he becomes "The Undertaker: He used to be pretty scary".

He should have retired at the last Wrestlmania in fact. I mean 13-0? Come on. There was never a time more perfect unless he counts on making it to 666-0 and that ain't happenin...Just my opinion though. The guys a legend and should go out like a legend. Flair has already screwed up. He should follow Hogan's lead. Even he saw after he lost a few times that he should just stay the hell away and let it be.

It's like what people said about the death of Bruce Lee: He died young and strong so we remember him young and strong instead of an old hasbeen.

[Savage]

Undertaker EARNED everything he has today.He doesn't put younger guys over because he either doesn't think they're ready or they just don't deserve it.And I don't know about you,but if I was him, I wouldn't put them over either. It would also sorta weaken his character if he put them over too much.
Exactly! If he gets pinned by frickin Rene Dupree then something is seriously wrong there.

[Sabretooth]

Dude. His careers almost over. He had his days in the spotlight. Give somebody else a chance. People with egos like that are bringing the biz into a very bad place.
Exactly.It's the end of his career.Let him go out with a bang. Besides,who is there that he has to put over? People like Cena are already in the main event.If anyone needs to put more people over,it's JBL.He's hogging up the main event.

[Sabretooth]

And,if you think about it,there's more guys on Raw that desperately need to be over.Edge,Orton,Shelton,Christian,etc.

[The Techno Bat]

Undertaker EARNED everything he has today.He doesn't put younger guys over because he either doesn't think they're ready or they just don't deserve it.And I don't know about you,but if I was him, I wouldn't put them over either. It would also sorta weaken his character if he put them over too much.

Sure The Undertaker has EARNED his stature/status in wrestling, but it still doesn't give him the right to say who he feels is ready or not, there are other people that decide that and for The Undertaker to not put other guys over shows he is selfish and not willing to do what it takes for a sport that made him famous, and gave him everything he has today. I say with The Undertaker they allowed him to keep his undefeated streak at WM and that will stand forever, I think it's time for him to put guys over!

[The Techno Bat]

Good post.

Thank You

[The Techno Bat]

Exactly! If he gets pinned by frickin Rene Dupree then something is seriously wrong there.

If Rene Dupree is going to be a major player down the road like the WWE is hoping him to be, why not have him feud with Taker and get a few wins over him?

[Sabretooth]

Sure The Undertaker has EARNED his stature/status in wrestling, but it still doesn't give him the right to say who he feels is ready or not, there are other people that decide that and for The Undertaker to not put other guys over shows he is selfish and not willing to do what it takes for a sport that made him famous, and gave him everything he has today. I say with The Undertaker they allowed him to keep his undefeated streak at WM and that will stand forever, I think it's time for him to put guys over!
I think he has so much authority because he a veteran.And if we're gonna talk about people who shhouldn't decide that stuff,one person is HHH.Who only has authority because of Stephanie.And at least Undertaker doesn't hog up the main event/World Heavyweight Championship.

[brainchild81]

No doubt. Neither one of them deserves to be their own booker.

[Savage]

Undertaker is supposed to be this unstoppable Phantom. He comes and goes every now and then whenever he pleases and absolutely destroys everyone in his path. That's why I love the character so much. The legend IS the character. I don't want to see the day when people are like "Oh my god it's the Undertaker!!!" "......." "........" ".......so?". To me they already screwed that up with Kane who was so hyped up only to end up where he is now and only holding the title for one day.

[The Techno Bat]

I think he has so much authority because he a veteran.And if we're gonna talk about people who shhouldn't decide that stuff,one person is HHH.Who only has authority because of Stephanie.And at least Undertaker doesn't hog up the main event/World Heavyweight Championship.

I agree with you on that one with HHH. Just a couple weeks ago on RAW when HHH was not on the show, they had there highest ratings in years a 5.0 share. I think that the WWE should look at that and say hmmm...

[Savage]

No doubt. Neither one of them deserves to be their own booker.
This is true. Wrestlers shouldn't be deciding the outcome of their own matches if it's written. It's not fair. Wrestling should really go back to the way it was. I mean real wrestling. No scripts or preditermined crap. More like UFC which comes on PPV every now and then. Build up the hype to each event and give em one hell of a show. This sports entertainment crap has gone too far imo. I mean I've heard that Jericho beat Goldberg backstage. That's the kind of thing we want to see in the ring. True skill, because apparantly they've been holding back alot. Hurricane, Undertaker, Jericho, Benjamin, Van Dam, Angle. These are only some of the guys that would totally own in real fights and I want to see that.

Vince McMahon sr. is probably spinning in his grave right now.:(

....Wow, I'm ranting alot tonight.

[The Techno Bat]

I think wrestling has to kind of take a step back and get back to it's roots and go a bit old school, it is ridiculous how guys don't sell moves these days and when a guy gets punched like 20 times in a row in the face, how quickly he/she rebounds and takes out there opponent with one punch or something like that. Back in the day if you took one maybe two punches you sold it and went down

[Sabretooth]

Yeah.I also hate how when a guy does his finisher,the other guy is up in only a matter of seconds.Or how wrestlers sometimes have to use their finisher 2 or 3 times to keep the other guys down.

[Sabretooth]

This is true. Wrestlers shouldn't be deciding the outcome of their own matches if it's written. It's not fair. Wrestling should really go back to the way it was. I mean real wrestling. No scripts or preditermined crap. More like UFC which comes on PPV every now and then. Build up the hype to each event and give em one hell of a show. This sports entertainment crap has gone too far imo. I mean I've heard that Jericho beat Goldberg backstage. That's the kind of thing we want to see in the ring. True skill, because apparantly they've been holding back alot. Hurricane, Undertaker, Jericho, Benjamin, Van Dam, Angle. These are only some of the guys that would totally own in real fights and I want to see that.

Vince McMahon sr. is probably spinning in his grave right now.:(

....Wow, I'm ranting alot tonight.Yeah,but if it gets too real,it may get too boring and then there wouldn't be many heels and faces,which makes it interesting.

But yeah,I'd like to see those guys in some real fights.:up:

[LastSunrise1981]

I agree with you on that one with HHH. Just a couple weeks ago on RAW when HHH was not on the show, they had there highest ratings in years a 5.0 share. I think that the WWE should look at that and say hmmm...

This is the WWE. They don't think with absolute logic my friends, in fact, when they saw the 5.0 ratings they more likely assumed it was because of the Edge/Lita storyline.

WWE knows that as long as TNA and Ring Of Honor don't have secure or concrete tv deals, they can continue putting out mediocre products or bad ratings until that happens. Vince may be a blind bastard, but he's smart, he knows that he has no competition and he's just purposely doing this because there's no other alternative unfortunatley.

What fans need to do is stop watching, stop attending the shows, and stop giving in to the product. It's a lot easier said than done, but e-mails and protests don't do a thing to them. In fact they look at us as idiots and smarks who know nothing about wrestling, so instead of putting up with the BS and mediocre product, we can hurt Vince and the WWE where it hurts them the most. Where you ask? The wallet. We can hurt them in the wallet by not buying the product, by not watching the show, and by not giving them the attention that they obviously crave.

The problem is not just Ego H. Now don't get me wrong, he's a BIG part of the problem. But the true problem is the writing of the programs and the rehashed storylines.

Get rid of the soap opera writers(who are not wrestling fans). Get REAL writers who know wrestling.

I'd say stop being dumbasses and let Eric Bischoff, Paul Heyman, and Shane McMahon(Only if he wanted to) to book the shows.

As of right now, I'm swearing off the WWE until something changes.

[brainchild81]

Good post. But I'm not sure about Bischoff though.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, Bischoff is a big reason why the WCW failed back then. He was basically butt-buddies with Hogan and the reason why Hogan and Nash reigned supreme back during the dying days of WCW.

Of course, Vince Russo later came on and ****ed things even further with the company, but Bischoff certainly was the catalyst for all that.

I'm perfectly happy with Bischoff being just an on-air presence for the WWE. Heyman on the other hand, I wouldn't mind being a writer. The times when he was writer of SD were some of the better times for the show.....

[3dman27]

you know about the "super stacy" [ala mighty molly]storyline i was thinking
we all know its stacy, but in keeping with the gag she claims its NOT her maybe she can "find out" her double was a celebrity lookalike for her that stacy had to get a restraining order against to keep "her" from "impersonating " stacy keibler

[Twitch]

I think he has so much authority because he a veteran.And if we're gonna talk about people who shhouldn't decide that stuff,one person is HHH.Who only has authority because of Stephanie.And at least Undertaker doesn't hog up the main event/World Heavyweight Championship.

Well Undertaker could be hogging up the world title scene. I rather see him being top heel. Unlike Triple H with his thirty min promos. Undertaker doesn't speak much. Edge and Christian can join in the title feud and have a Fatal-Four-Way match like what they did on Smackdown.

If that doesn't happen and Kane isn't avaible for WM. IMO he should go fight HBK.

(Ego H better thank Taker for he made Hell in a Cell)

[www.marvelsigs.]

I Think Wrestling Was Better About 15 Years Ago, It Has Gone Down The Pan A Bit Now, It Is All Pomp And Crap

[www.marvelsigs.]

i don't know about you guy's but i liked tito santana, pedro morales, don "the rock" morocco and others of the time like demolition, killer bee's, road warriors, and greg the hammer valentine.............that was wrestling and of course who can forget hogan in the early day's fighting big john studd..quality

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah, Bischoff is a big reason why the WCW failed back then. He was basically butt-buddies with Hogan and the reason why Hogan and Nash reigned supreme back during the dying days of WCW.

Of course, Vince Russo later came on and ****ed things even further with the company, but Bischoff certainly was the catalyst for all that.

I'm perfectly happy with Bischoff being just an on-air presence for the WWE. Heyman on the other hand, I wouldn't mind being a writer. The times when he was writer of SD were some of the better times for the show.....

The reason I mentioned Bischoff is because he appears to have learned his lesson. Remember, he was the one who came up with the nWo idea and that generated massive popularity.

I wouldn't say give him 100% creative control. Though I will say have him be a writer, along with Heyman, and Shane McMahon(only if he wanted to) and see where that leads. We know Heyman is a wonderful booker and focuses on the young guys, and Shane is pretty much the same way, however I think Shane just wants to stay away and continue living his life.

I think it's safe to say that Heyman will go to TNA. It's been known and proven that Stephanie hates him, and TNA needs a fresh start.

[John Constantine]

I doubt Shane will ever take over as the booker. I've heard it said that he's too much like his mother and not like his father. He's just too meek to take over the business. I mean, it's sad to say but Triple H and Stephanie are here to stay.....:(

I wouldn't be surprised though if Heyman moves to TNA. That would be a huge boon for the company and might actually make them a force to be reckoned with....

[LastSunrise1981]

I doubt Shane will ever take over as the booker. I've heard it said that he's too much like his mother and not like his father. He's just too meek to take over the business. I mean, it's sad to say but Triple H and Stephanie are here to stay.....:(

I wouldn't be surprised though if Heyman moves to TNA. That would be a huge boon for the company and might actually make them a force to be reckoned with....

Damn. :( At least you broke the bleak news easy.

::Goes back to trying to contact the aliens so they can abduct Ego H and Stephanie::

[Lobo]

Hey hunter rider, where's that pic you re-hosted for me the other day? I want to see a pic of the true champion in this thread ;)

[Jason Blood]

Draft Lottery begins tonight

[Lobo]

So who will come to Raw? I hope it's someone decent like Booker and not someone like Akio

[John Constantine]

I thought it was next week :confused:


However, Raw is taking place in Calgary tonight, which means it's Bizarro World night! :D

It's also a good thing HBK is still injured or he'll face the wrath of many, many boos ;)

[Lobo]

I don;t think HBK cares :cool:

[Jason Blood]

Interesting story here

Source: Wrestling Observer

-- There was an incident involving a fan at last night’s RAW house show in Victoria. A teenager ran into the ring while Batista was interacting with the crowd after beating Ric Flair and Triple H in the main event. When he got into the ring, Triple H shoved him into the ropes and he took a nasty whiplash.

The referee then speared the kid through the ropes, with security grabbing him and cuffing him. When he began to struggle, a female officer grabbed him by the throat and they dragged him away.

Triple H then began playing off of it, and challenging people from the crowd to come in.

[John Constantine]

I don;t think HBK cares :cool:

Yeah, but still, it's like opposite world here. I bet the Canadians will end up cheering for Edge and Lita...:(


On another topic, I was supposed to go to the SD tapings tomorrow, but I had other plans. Damn them! :mad: :(

[John Constantine]

Interesting story here

Source: Wrestling Observer

-- There was an incident involving a fan at last night’s RAW house show in Victoria. A teenager ran into the ring while Batista was interacting with the crowd after beating Ric Flair and Triple H in the main event. When he got into the ring, Triple H shoved him into the ropes and he took a nasty whiplash.

The referee then speared the kid through the ropes, with security grabbing him and cuffing him. When he began to struggle, a female officer grabbed him by the throat and they dragged him away.

Triple H then began playing off of it, and challenging people from the crowd to come in.

Man, I hate when fans charge into the ring. They deserve to get their asses kicked if they do that :up:

[Lobo]

As long as they cheer for Captain Charisma it's all good

[John Constantine]

They'll cheer for anybody that's Canadian. I bet if Edge and Lita all of a sudden started badmouthing Matt Hardy right in the middle of the ring, I bet we'll still cheer the hell out of them....

:( ;) :D

[Lobo]

But will we get a "We Want Bret" Chant?

[John Constantine]

Of course. Especially since Raw is taking place at his hometown.

[LastSunrise1981]

Man, I hate when fans charge into the ring. They deserve to get their asses kicked if they do that :up:

I do agree there. I remember when one fan charged into the ring during the Eddie/RVD ladder match, it was hilarious watching Eddie kick the fan.

It's only a matter of time before a fan gets Ego H. :p

[Jason Blood]

I just got Smackdown HCTP and it's better than SVR

[Pink Ranger]

Yeah, but still, it's like opposite world here. I bet the Canadians will end up cheering for Edge and Lita...:(
(

Doubt it. Canadians love being the "smart fans" and will likely keep the "we want Matt" chant going longer than any crowd to date. Also, Western Canadians love a chance to boo a Torontonian.

[Lobo]

Didn't realize it was in Calgary tonight. But my favorite Canadian wrestler was Dino Bravo :(

[John Constantine]

I do agree there. I remember when one fan charged into the ring during the Eddie/RVD ladder match, it was hilarious watching Eddie kick the fan.

It's only a matter of time before a fan gets Ego H. :p

Yeah, I remember that one because that took place in the Smackdown show in Edmonton as well. He pushed the ladder when Eddie was on it. Dumbass fan, they should've let Eddie kick his ass some more. :rolleyes: :mad:

[John Constantine]

Doubt it. Canadians love being the "smart fans" and will likely keep the "we want Matt" chant going longer than any crowd to date. Also, Western Canadians love a chance to boo a Torontonian.

You never know with Canada sometimes.....;) :D

Hell, if I was going to Raw tonight, I would try and start up an "Edge" chant just to **** things up :up:

[John Constantine]

Didn't realize it was in Calgary tonight. But my favorite Canadian wrestler was Dino Bravo :(

Yeah, it's a shame what happened to him though....:(

And you know, since Raw is taking place in Calgary tonight, you know what would be a great way to hype up One Night Stand even more?

And appearance by Calgary, Alberta, Canada's own.....Lance Storm ;) :D

[Go Web Go!]

Draft Lottery begins tonight

No it doesn't

They'll cheer for anybody that's Canadian. I bet if Edge and Lita all of a sudden started badmouthing Matt Hardy right in the middle of the ring, I bet we'll still cheer the hell out of them....

:( ;) :D

That's not always the case. They booed Edge not too long ago. That's something he used against the crowd after his heel turn.

[Jason Blood]

No it doesn't

I saw a commercial on HEAT that said it did...

:confused:

[Jason Blood]

Raw looks ****ing awesome

Table Match between Benoit and Edge

Tag titles match between the Superheroes and the Heart Throbs

Triple threat between Shelton and La Resistance for IC title (La Resistance is going to break up soon as there are obvious signs)

Kane and Lita on the Highlight Reel

and get this

a "Memorial Day Swimsuit Competition"

[Twitch]

It would be even more awesome if Triple H got killed in a car crash. :rolleyes:

[LastSunrise1981]

It would be even more awesome if Triple H got killed in a car crash. :rolleyes:

I won't go that far. I don't wish any physical or deathly harm on him, but he definitely needs to go away for a LONG time.

:yellow:

[John Constantine]

That's not always the case. They booed Edge not too long ago. That's something he used against the crowd after his heel turn.

Hence, why I posted the ;) :D smilies......;)

[Go Web Go!]

It would be even more awesome if Triple H got killed in a car crash. :rolleyes:

Stone Cold already tried it and the guy escaped with his life and returned to RAW 2 weeks later! Geez, this guy just won't go away!

I saw a commercial on HEAT that said it did...

:confused:

Nope. Next week

[Go Web Go!]

Since when does Stacy accompany the Hurricane and the Blob to the ring? And how awful are the "Heartthrobs?" I can't even look at them. I know they're supposed to act the way they are, but geez...Atleast Billy & Chuck were entertaining (atleast until Rico came along)

[Sabretooth]

I hope Stacy turns heel.She bores me to death as a face

[The Techno Bat]

I really hope that Sylvan Griener and Rob Conway break out into megastars in there singles career's. I think they will end up on different shows, one on smackdown and the other on RAW. I hope Rob Conway stays on RAW because he has more talent and potential, but both are great and a breath of fresh air!

Bout time Victoria kicked some ass again. It was great seeing The Widows Peak, and The King getting low blowed!

[Sabretooth]

The only way they can redeem Kane is by having him go on a rampage and destroy everyone and everything in his path for a few months.


And did they really have to change Batista's music?

[Newlife]

The only way they can redeem Kane is by having him go on a rampage and destroy everyone and everything in his path for a few months.


And did they really have to change Batista's music?


His attitude seems to have changed aswell.

[LastSunrise1981]

My friend types up results for WWE and TNA events. Can anyone explain to me why Ego H gets another title shot?

Storyline wise anyone other than Ego H has to EARN a shot.

But here's a guy who lost to Jim Ross, lost to Batista(twice), lost to Benoit in the Gold Rush Tournament, and he still gets a title shot against Batista? Why not just give him the damn belt and name it The World Ego H Championship belt.

[Metamorpho1977]

I remember it used to always happen to Ric Flair in the old NWA days. Twice while he was wrestling Ricky the Dragon Steamboat. and Flair kicked the hell out of the guy then put him in the figure 4.

[Metamorpho1977]

My friend types up results for WWE and TNA events. Can anyone explain to me why Ego H gets another title shot?

Storyline wise anyone other than Ego H has to EARN a shot.

But here's a guy who lost to Jim Ross, lost to Batista(twice), lost to Benoit in the Gold Rush Tournament, and he still gets a title shot against Batista? Why not just give him the damn belt and name it The World Ego H Championship belt.

That's why Triple H is the smartest guy in the business, because he married Vince's daughter. I wish Stephanie would wise up and see that fact. That he didn't marry her for her, but for the world title instead. She needs to ditch him and give me a call.

[LastSunrise1981]

That's why Triple H is the smartest guy in the business, because he married Vince's daughter. I wish Stephanie would wise up and see that fact. That he didn't marry her for her, but for the world title instead. She needs to ditch him and give me a call.

So you can hold the championship belt 100 times? :p

[brainchild81]

It would be even more awesome if Triple H got killed in a car crash. :rolleyes:Nah. I'd rather he just get turned into a jobber. I'd like to see Goldberg come in and beat HHH's a$$ & then Goldberg gets his a$$ beat 3 matches in a row by Jericho. Then HHH and Goldberg become jobbers that frequently form a jobber tag team. :) They should lose to Scotty 2Hotty and Spike Dudley very often.

[GLfan]

Since when does Stacy accompany the Hurricane and the Blob to the ring? And how awful are the "Heartthrobs?" I can't even look at them. I know they're supposed to act the way they are, but geez...Atleast Billy & Chuck were entertaining (atleast until Rico came along)
Two weeks ago when they saved her from Maven and Simon Dean. They tried to make her drink that protein shake, she dropped it on purpose and they were pushing her around. Hurricane and Rosie came in and made the save.

[kane9321]

yeah for victoria..I'm so glad one of the "true"divas finally did something about this christy hemme problem.Its about time one of the girls addressed it...hell the fans were cheering as well

[John Constantine]

Well, it was too good to be true....:(

Breaking News: NWA-TNA/WGN TV Deal Off?
Submitted by Phantom Lord on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 12:50 AM EST



Information has come out that the deal between NWA-TNA and WGN might have fallen through at the last minute.

The deal was supposedly going to be announced tomorrow but we're told Dixie Carter did something that prevented a contract from being signed. That's not to say that the two sides won't reach an agreement but as of right now the deal is off.

So far the company hasn't told any of it's talent about negotiations breaking down for fear of causing a panic. The saving grace here is that TNA left Fox Sports Net on really good terms so it's possible a new agreement could be reached with them.

Hopefully this matter will be resolved within the next day or two, but as it stands TNA has no TV outlet aside from pay-per-view.

Credit to the Wrestling 365 Newsletter

:( :( :(

[Metamorpho1977]

Finally my favorite Diva is back, and I hope she continues to kick the hell out of Christy Hemme. Not that I have anything personal against Christy, it's just that she should pay her dues like the other superstars.

http://img20.echo.cx/img20/477/victoria026zz.jpg

[kane9321]

woot...yes the victoria lovefest is in full motion.lol.I really hopes she turns "pyscho" and just destroys christy every week.I was really glad she got the"king" as well..all his drooling over christy..it was makin me sick....go get'em victoria

[Lobo]

Finally Christian got the reaction he deserves :D Now he has to go to Smackdown and take that title from Cena

[3dman27]

woot...yes the victoria lovefest is in full motion.lol.I really hopes she turns "pyscho" and just destroys christy every week.I was really glad she got the"king" as well..all his drooling over christy..it was makin me sick....go get'em victoria
i only wish nora greenwald[ the former molly holly] hadn't quit and was the one to kick christy's hemme in

[kane9321]

oh yeah,molly would have put the "screws" to her as well

[3dman27]

she sure would

[Sabretooth]

I never realized how funny Christian is.I was laughing my ass off when he was ripping on Cena. I find it odd that Cena ignores him though,Christian has been poking at Cena since what,Backlash?

[Sabretooth]

Finally Christian got the reaction he deserves :D Now he has to go to Smackdown and take that title from Cena
yeah.This year is soooo gonna be Christian's year finally.:up:

[Lobo]

I never realized how funny Christian is.I was laughing my ass off when he was ripping on Cena. I find it odd that Cena ignores him though,Christian has been poking at Cena since what,Backlash?


Actually since the Royal Rumble whe the Captain challenged Cena to a rap battle

[Donnie Darko]

I would love to see Christian healining SD's main event at next year's Wrestlemania.

[John Constantine]

I never realized how funny Christian is.I was laughing my ass off when he was ripping on Cena. I find it odd that Cena ignores him though,Christian has been poking at Cena since what,Backlash?

Probably because Cena is still deep in his feud with JBL to really care. But I bet if Christian gets drafted to SD, he'll care immediately.....

[The Techno Bat]

My friend types up results for WWE and TNA events. Can anyone explain to me why Ego H gets another title shot?

Storyline wise anyone other than Ego H has to EARN a shot.

But here's a guy who lost to Jim Ross, lost to Batista(twice), lost to Benoit in the Gold Rush Tournament, and he still gets a title shot against Batista? Why not just give him the damn belt and name it The World Ego H Championship belt.

Don't forget to add in there he took his baby bottle, and blanket, and went home to have his diaper changed for a week or was it two?

[JINoside]

Probably because Cena is still deep in his feud with JBL to really care. But I bet if Christian gets drafted to SD, he'll care immediately.....

I would like for...Christian to defeat Cena whenever they fight. Hes been in WWE long enough and despite not beign one of the strongest could pull out a pretty good match. Is better in the mic than Cena and doesn't have to side with the crowd so much to get a reaction....Um.......Yeah:o......

[John Constantine]

Don't forget to add in there he took his baby bottle, and blanket, and went home to have his diaper changed for a week or was it two?

And who could forget his "Raw and Batista needs me" spiel and the one week he isn't on the show, it gets the highest ratings of the year ;) :D

[3dman27]

i 've got a question about the ECWppv the first time i saw ECW was when it aired on the national network [now spiketv]for a year when they were doing the show this guy came out claming to represent "the NETWORK" and tried to shut down the show will anything like that happen at the ppv

[GLfan]

Did anyone see Raw? It was great the way Bautista kicked major butt, he wiped the floor with Davari and Hassan it was great to see them get what they deserved.

[3dman27]

Since when does Stacy accompany the Hurricane and the Blob to the ring?the hurricane palling around with an x-men villian watsup withat? i i just thought uo the most appropo codenme for stacy KEIBLER


THE TOUGH COOKIE :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

[Benji252]

batista went real crazy on RAW I cant belive he only needed a plaster for the attack last week?:confused:

[kane9321]

yeah the animal was unleashed monday..it was great

[Bad Superman]

yeah the animal was unleashed monday..it was great

It's exactly what he should do to Triple H in real life. :p

[LastSunrise1981]

It's exactly what he should do to Triple H in real life. :p

When Triple H is 100 years old and in a wheelchair, he'll still find a way to hold the championship belt and bore us with his promos.

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/Blade-Trinity/Stephanie_McMahon_and_Triple_H_BT03.sized.jpg

Somebody needs to use this as a sign for an event.

http://austinwm.club.fr/HTLM/Photos/H/Hunter_Hearst_Helmsley/Triple_H_-_Paul_Levesque_10.jpg

Triple H- Me Triple H= Teh Ratings L0L11!!!! I AM TEH GAME!!!

:rolleyes:

[3dman27]

all things considered i'd rather look at stephanie

[Hunter Rider]

i thought HHH did a great promo but the whole deal with him and Batista is tired and shouldve ended at Backlash.The Hell in a Cell is bring overused now as well and there is no way it can live up to the last Hell in a Cell between HBK and HHH.
On the good side Edge is showing promise as a top heel particuarly with his new cocky attitude,it was smart to lose the crazy man gimmick IMO

[Lobo]

Hey Hunter remember this form our conversation

http://img200.echo.cx/img200/9314/worldvince6ud.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

Hey Hunter remember this form our conversation

http://img200.echo.cx/img200/9314/worldvince6ud.jpg

:D The Mac Daddy!!!!!

[Donnie Darko]

did anyone else hear some people in the crowd yelling "boring" during the HHH interview Monday night?

[John Constantine]

Yeah, it seemed like they had to edit out a bit of the chants during the middle of the interview....

The reception for Christian was crazy though. He definitely could be the next main event champion.

I mean remember the last time Raw was in Canada, who suddenly got a huge pop? Batista ;)

[John Constantine]

i 've got a question about the ECWppv the first time i saw ECW was when it aired on the national network [now spiketv]for a year when they were doing the show this guy came out claming to represent "the NETWORK" and tried to shut down the show will anything like that happen at the ppv

Probably not. I think they'll just go with the "WWE invades ECW and gets their collective asses kicked" angle.

[Sabretooth]

Christian really needs to leave Raw.If he goes to SD!,he'll lose Tomko and he won't have to worry about HHH trying to get him because HHH is probably going to go after Cena. I just hope they don't have him ever feud with people like say the Undertaker,cause it's obvious they'd just squash him and make him a coward.

[John Constantine]

With the way Christian's been talking about moving to the draft, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to just keep him on Raw, or wait until the last week of the draft to move him to SD. That way, they could start up an angle in which Christian gets more pissed/nervous that he might end up staying on Raw.


And could the WWE also be afraid of a Cena/Christian feud because it might take a few cheers away from Cena? After-all, Cena is currently the WWE's product whore, as evidenced by that ****ing awful spinner title and new shirts that seem to come out every week....

[Hunter Rider]

And could the WWE also be afraid of a Cena/Christian feud because it might take a few cheers away from Cena? After-all, Cena is currently the WWE's product whore, as evidenced by that ****ing awful spinner title and new shirts that seem to come out every week....

I think you might be right there,i could see the crowd being split and wwe don't want that as they are pimping cena for everything they can

[John Constantine]

Linda McMahon even said in a press conference that she see's John Cena as someone who could sell a lot of merchandise for them. So of course they're gonna try to protect him as much as they can. Probably why they're trying to make Angle and Guerrero look despicable right now so that in a future feud with Cena, people might not cheer for those two over Cena....

[Sabretooth]

With the way Christian's been talking about moving to the draft, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to just keep him on Raw, or wait until the last week of the draft to move him to SD. That way, they could start up an angle in which Christian gets more pissed/nervous that he might end up staying on Raw.


And could the WWE also be afraid of a Cena/Christian feud because it might take a few cheers away from Cena? After-all, Cena is currently the WWE's product whore, as evidenced by that ****ing awful spinner title and new shirts that seem to come out every week....
Hey,it isn't Christian's fault that he has more skills than Cena.Beautiful mic skills,great in the ring,and he's oozing with charisma.Cena has what,10 moves in the ring that he actually uses? His mic skills are just pathetic,especially how his last resort is his little ''chain gang'' and how him and JBL always end up talking about the fans,and why people go crazy for him I have no idea.

[Sabretooth]

Linda McMahon even said in a press conference that she see's John Cena as someone who could sell a lot of merchandise for them. So of course they're gonna try to protect him as much as they can. Probably why they're trying to make Angle and Guerrero look despicable right now so that in a future feud with Cena, people might not cheer for those two over Cena....
And you know what's funny?People like Edge,HBK,Guerrero,and Angle all have that one T-shirt they always wear and little merchandise,while Cena has about a million crappy T-shirts week after week.Sucks because Eddie,Kurt,Edge,etc. are more deserving of merchandise and I think their stuff would sell well.

[John Constantine]

Hey,it isn't Christian's fault that he has more skills than Cena.Beautiful mic skills,great in the ring,and he's oozing with charisma.Cena has what,10 moves in the ring that he actually uses? His mic skills are just pathetic,especially how his last resort is his little ''chain gang'' and how him and JBL always end up talking about the fans,and why people go crazy for him I have no idea.

Yeah, Christian is great and he deserves the main event. But there are a few others that deserve it as well - Jericho, Benoit, Angle, Guerrero.....Where are they at now though?

With Cena though, the fans at ringside seem to love his boring-ass schtick. They cheer everything he does. And you know why? Cause he gets the cheap heat. He sucks up to the fans a lot. I hate to say it, but the fans who go to the WWE shows are sheep. They'll cheer for anyone as long as they say "*insert random city here* is the best city in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Honestly, even John Heidenreich can get over as a mega-face if he says that....

[The Techno Bat]

And who could forget his "Raw and Batista needs me" spiel and the one week he isn't on the show, it gets the highest ratings of the year ;) :D

Yep! It did a 5.0 share or something like that :)

[John Constantine]

And you know what's funny?People like Edge,HBK,Guerrero,and Angle all have that one T-shirt they always wear and little merchandise,while Cena has about a million crappy T-shirts week after week.Sucks because Eddie,Kurt,Edge,etc. are more deserving of merchandise and I think their stuff would sell well.

It's because the WWE sees Cena as their current marketing whore now that STone Cold and the ROck are gone....Once Cena is gone, they'll just find another wrestler to take over that position.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, Christian is great and he deserves the main event. But there are a few others that deserve it as well - Jericho, Benoit, Angle, Guerrero.....Where are they at now though?

With Cena though, the fans at ringside seem to love his boring-ass schtick. They cheer everything he does. And you know why? Cause he gets the cheap heat. He sucks up to the fans a lot. I hate to say it, but the fans who go to the WWE shows are sheep. They'll cheer for anyone as long as they say "*insert random city here* is the best city in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Honestly, even John Heidenreich can get over as a mega-face if he says that....
so sad yet so true,it doesn't seem to matter that his "I fight for you ppl"" stuff is so blatantly corny and obvious in nature.not to mention they don't seem to care that he is a weak performer they'll cheer anyway

[John Constantine]

Yep! It did a 5.0 share or something like that :)

I wonder what Triple H's excuse for that might be: "um....um....it's only for one week, wait until next wek when the ratings go way down. Then I'll show them that Raw really needs me!"

;) :D

[John Constantine]

so sad yet so true,it doesn't seem to matter that his "I fight for you ppl"" stuff is so blatantly corny and obvious in nature.not to mention they don't seem to care that he is a weak performer they'll cheer anyway

It is. It's corny as hell, but when fans are in the event and the adrenaline is pumping, they don't give a ****. They'll cheer whatever he says as long as it's positive towards the fans.

[White_Howling]

Cena is annoying.. too much hype over him.. while teh fans go for his tough guy act ill never know.. when he first showed up he was off cue everything he sang... sigh..... but i rahter have him champ than jbl for sure.. on the other hand batista is having trouble carrying the belt.. they need to work on his personality more.. the animal thing isn't working out.. he ended up a goldberg 0.5

[John Constantine]

Cena is annoying.. too much hype over him.. while teh fans go for his tough guy act ill never know.. when he first showed up he was off cue everything he sang... sigh..... but i rahter have him champ than jbl for sure.. on the other hand batista is having trouble carrying the belt.. they need to work on his personality more.. the animal thing isn't working out.. he ended up a goldberg 0.5

I think the reason why Batista is having troubles is because it's not about Batista being champ, it's still about Triple H regaining the title. They're not letting Batista carry the championship for himself. Granted, his match with Hassan was a step in the right direction, but that was marred by Triple H's horrible "interview"

[White_Howling]

i thought HHH did a great promo but the whole deal with him and Batista is tired and shouldve ended at Backlash.The Hell in a Cell is bring overused now as well and there is no way it can live up to the last Hell in a Cell between HBK and HHH.
On the good side Edge is showing promise as a top heel particuarly with his new cocky attitude,it was smart to lose the crazy man gimmick IMO

i think triple H is the only one capable of holding the belt on raw.. and thats pretty sad..

[Hunter Rider]

It is. It's corny as hell, but when fans are in the event and the adrenaline is pumping, they don't give a ****. They'll cheer whatever he says as long as it's positive towards the fans.

yep seems like on most SD's the fans are blind but on PPV's you sometimes hear more honest reactions and i think thats why there downgrading angle and eddie so heavily

[The Ghoul]

Am I the only one who thinks that if they are going to go through with this ECW crusade, Chris Benoit is not the best choice for representing ECW. This is nothing on Benoit, but I think if you are going to talk about ECW as violent animals, don't attack one of the ones who wasn't known for using weapons & **** in ECW.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, Christian is great and he deserves the main event. But there are a few others that deserve it as well - Jericho, Benoit, Angle, Guerrero.....Where are they at now though?

With Cena though, the fans at ringside seem to love his boring-ass schtick. They cheer everything he does. And you know why? Cause he gets the cheap heat. He sucks up to the fans a lot. I hate to say it, but the fans who go to the WWE shows are sheep. They'll cheer for anyone as long as they say "*insert random city here* is the best city in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Honestly, even John Heidenreich can get over as a mega-face if he says that....
I honestly don't know why Jericho is still in WWE.He's never going anywhere,as long as HHH hates him.He should really go to TNA.Give him more time to be with his band. It sucks that last year's champs are now down to mid card (Eddie and Benoit) especially since they were very convincing champions. And as for Kurt, they're probably keeping him out of main event because of his neck,but I still see him as one of the top heels.

And,no offence to anyone here if they do go to WWE shows,but I honestly can't stand them.They'll eat up anything as long as they have wrestlers kissing up,and they're just so blind.Why they chant Angle sucks is beyond me.I know he's heel,but he's the total package.Cena is a poser who probably slept his way through WWE and didn't deserve that belt.

[John Constantine]

yep seems like on most SD's the fans are blind but on PPV's you sometimes hear more honest reactions and i think thats why there downgrading angle and eddie so heavily

With Eddie, I don't really think people can boo for him. I mean I wouldn't be surprised to see people start cheering for psycho Eddie soon.....

[Hunter Rider]

i think triple H is the only one capable of holding the belt on raw.. and thats pretty sad..

I think if given room to work Edge could hold it and if Benoit and Y2j were given some main event feuds they could get back into the race,they of course could put it onto HBK but they like him to provide the second main event .WWE really needs to put HHH on the back burner and develop these guys like shelton and christian into main eventers

[John Constantine]

Am I the only one who thinks that if they are going to go through with this ECW crusade, Chris Benoit is not the best choice for representing ECW. This is nothing on Benoit, but I think if you are going to talk about ECW as violent animals, don't attack one of the ones who wasn't known for using weapons & **** in ECW.

That's because the WWE got rid of everyone who was like that in ECW. Plus, Benoit's the most recognizable face they can attach ECW to....

[Sabretooth]

With Eddie, I don't really think people can boo for him. I mean I wouldn't be surprised to see people start cheering for psycho Eddie soon.....
hey,it's working for Victoria :D

[White_Howling]

i think their still looking for the new rock and stone cold rivalry.. i mean that what brought raw to its peak.. that was when fans were going wild.. they didn't know who to root for.. now we ended up with a wannabe gangster and a cowboy.. stone cold i know ppl hate him but it was really him he played the part of the angry red neck to perfection.. and the the rock was great even if he started to repeat himself.

[White_Howling]

hey,it's working for Victoria :D


yeah that was pretty funny when fans started cheering for her.. but they didn't cheer for her when she was all goody goody

[Sabretooth]

It's obvious they're making Cena an Austin clone,but it's just not working.AUstin would NEVER kiss up to the fans as much as Cena does.

Orton and Christian do remind me of Rock though.