Wrestling

[John Constantine]

I honestly don't know why Jericho is still in WWE.He's never going anywhere,as long as HHH hates him.He should really go to TNA.Give him more time to be with his band. It sucks that last year's champs are now down to mid card (Eddie and Benoit) especially since they were very convincing champions. And as for Kurt, they're probably keeping him out of main event because of his neck,but I still see him as one of the top heels.

And,no offence to anyone here if they do go to WWE shows,but I honestly can't stand them.They'll eat up anything as long as they have wrestlers kissing up,and they're just so blind.Why they chant Angle sucks is beyond me.I know he's heel,but he's the total package.Cena is a poser who probably slept his way through WWE and didn't deserve that belt.

Stabilty I guess. I mean TNA is just as bad sometimes with Jeff Jarrett acting exactly like Triple H. The X-division is probably the only thing keeping the show alive. Plus, with the WGN deal falling through, TNA really doesn't have a tv deal now....:(

The thing about those shows is that it's easy to bash them right now. But when you're in the show and you feel the emotion, you'll cheer for anything. It all has to do with the atmosphere. I know I went to a few shows in which I've said and did some stupid things and cheered for some stupid things, but that was because I was so into the show. It happens to everyone.

[Sabretooth]

yeah that was pretty funny when fans started cheering for her.. but they didn't cheer for her when she was all goody goody
That's because she was main eventing Heat every week.People probably forgot who the hell she was.

Remember her little storyline with Stevie Richards and he dressed up as a woman?:D

[John Constantine]

i think their still looking for the new rock and stone cold rivalry.. i mean that what brought raw to its peak.. that was when fans were going wild.. they didn't know who to root for.. now we ended up with a wannabe gangster and a cowboy.. stone cold i know ppl hate him but it was really him he played the part of the angry red neck to perfection.. and the the rock was great even if he started to repeat himself.

They're always trying to find the next Rock/Stone Cold. I mean look at Randy Orton, they were obviously trying to make him the next Rock: Third generation superstar, started out as a bland face who no one cared about, turned heel and joined a major faction, eventually became the star of the faction.

And with STone Cold, how many times have we seen a boss vs wrestler feud. They're always trying to go back to the fountain with that.

[Sabretooth]

Stabilty I guess. I mean TNA is just as bad sometimes with Jeff Jarrett acting exactly like Triple H. The X-division is probably the only thing keeping the show alive. Plus, with the WGN deal falling through, TNA really doesn't have a tv deal now....:(

The thing about those shows is that it's easy to bash them right now. But when you're in the show and you feel the emotion, you'll cheer for anything. It all has to do with the atmosphere. I know I went to a few shows in which I've said and did some stupid things and cheered for some stupid things, but that was because I was so into the show. It happens to everyone.
I know what you mean.I went to a Raw house show once,and it was when Matt and Kane were feuding.Everyone was chanting Hardy.But I tried to start up some Kane chant,and a couple people started looking at me like I was Bizzarro :D

And,believe it or not,there was a time when I actually chanted Cena's name.Back when he did those raps.But then for some reason it just died out.:(

[White_Howling]

That's because she was main eventing Heat every week.People probably forgot who the hell she was.

Remember her little storyline with Stevie Richards and he dressed up as a woman?:D

then richards went psycho and whooped billy guns ass.. oh i loved that.. i wonder why they stopped it

[John Constantine]

It's obvious they're making Cena an Austin clone,but it's just not working.AUstin would NEVER kiss up to the fans as much as Cena does.

Orton and Christian do remind me of Rock though.

That's the thing though. Instead of finding the new superstar, they're trying to find the next old superstar. I honestly don't know why the WWE just can't try and find someone new :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

That's the thing though. Instead of finding the new superstar, they're trying to find the next old superstar. I honestly don't know why the WWE just can't try and find someone new :confused:

agreed,by making randy the new Rock and cena the new austin they are going backwards not forwards

[John Constantine]

agreed,by making randy the new Rock and cena the new austin they are going backwards not forwards

Yep. I mean it just doesn't work if they do that. I mean back in 1994, they tried to make Lex Luger the new Hulk Hogan and that failed as well. It wasn't until new main eventers like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were brought in that they found a few more marketable wrestlers.

[Sabretooth]

That's the thing though. Instead of finding the new superstar, they're trying to find the next old superstar. I honestly don't know why the WWE just can't try and find someone new :confused:
But then WWE would have to come up with new ideas. :(

[White_Howling]

well that and their trying to bring in a new goldberg or brock type wrestler all this big goofs making it into the ring is pissing me offf. what the hell chris masters!!! the master lock oh please.. hes gonna end up figthing batista any way.. chris has what two movies? and no ring skills.. that be entertaining to watch

[White_Howling]

But then WWE would have to come up with new ideas. :(


or the yneed better story writers

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. I mean it just doesn't work if they do that. I mean back in 1994, they tried to make Lex Luger the new Hulk Hogan and that failed as well. It wasn't until new main eventers like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were brought in that they found a few more marketable wrestlers.

Exactly,Austin,The Rock and HHH all worked as they were fresh and individual,Now WWE needs to look to guys to bring something new not something borrowed,Guys like christian,Y2J,Edge and Orton can create their own legacies if given a chance the way Kurt was

[John Constantine]

That'll be an impossibilty considering all the writers for the show are nothing more than glorified yes-man/suck-ups for Vince. Look at when Paul Heyman tried to do something different with Smackdown....

[White_Howling]

know what they need to bring back shane-o-mac into the hardcore title fights.. i love his drop kick from across the ring.. that was something special..

[Hunter Rider]

know what they need to bring back shane-o-mac into the hardcore title fights.. i love his drop kick from across the ring.. that was something special..

he stole it from RVD though:p

[John Constantine]

Exactly,Austin,The Rock and HHH all worked as they were fresh and individual,Now WWE needs to look to guys to bring something new not something borrowed,Guys like christian,Y2J,Edge and Orton can create their own legacies if given a chance the way Kurt was

Man, Kurt Angle was such a huge surprise. I mean, I remembered seeing his first match and I was bored, I thought he would be gone from the WWF in like a year. I mean it totally shocked me that not only did he stick around, but he managed to win all the major titles (including the KOTR) in that time frame :eek:

[John Constantine]

know what they need to bring back shane-o-mac into the hardcore title fights.. i love his drop kick from across the ring.. that was something special..

Bleh, I'd rather they have wrestlers do the hardcore title fights than McMahons. That's the one thing I'm happy about with the WWE right now, the McMahon's don't take up as much of the storylines as they used to. Remember the time when Vince, Stephanie, Shane, and Linda all used to take up so much airtime?

[Hunter Rider]

Man, Kurt Angle was such a huge surprise. I mean, I remembered seeing his first match and I was bored, I thought he would be gone from the WWF in like a year. I mean it totally shocked me that not only did he stick around, but he managed to win all the major titles (including the KOTR) in that time frame :eek:

yep,his build up was lame and his first match with Meat was poor but i remember my dad saying he had potential,looks like he was right :D
another guy that brought his own game was Brock

[John Constantine]

yep,his build up was lame and his first match with Meat was poor but i remember my dad saying he had potential,looks like he was right :D
another guy that brought his own game was Brock

A bit. Not as much as Angle though. And you know what? Both wrestlers won their championship title from the same person: The Rock.

Man, is there a main eventer or even a wrestler that guy hasn't put over?

[White_Howling]

too bad brock got lazy and big headed...

yeah i love the angle fights now... at least they got rid of the angle and eddie fights which lasted like two months

[White_Howling]

A bit. Not as much as Angle though. And you know what? Both wrestlers won their championship title from the same person: The Rock.

Man, is there a main eventer or even a wrestler that guy hasn't put over?


ha ha the rock won this titles by forefits. i remember that.. austin didn't want the belt and dropped it in the river..

was austins last match in wwe a lost?

[John Constantine]

ha ha the rock won this titles by forefits. i remember that.. austin didn't want the belt and dropped it in the river..

was austins last match in wwe a lost?

Wasn't that the Intercontinental title? And even then, the ROck won it, but Austin stole it and kept it for a while.

I think the ROck won his first championship title in that Survivor Series tournament....

[Hunter Rider]

A bit. Not as much as Angle though. And you know what? Both wrestlers won their championship title from the same person: The Rock.

Man, is there a main eventer or even a wrestler that guy hasn't put over?

good point,he has done the job for the wwe's last 2 big stars which was something Austin never did for him.I think the making of Brock was the Hell in a Cell fight with the Taker,that really amped up his credibility

[John Constantine]

good point,he has done the job for the wwe's last 2 big stars which was something Austin never did for him.I think the making of Brock was the Hell in a Cell fight with the Taker,that really amped up his credibility

Not only that, but he also put over Triple H, Mick Foley....he's made guys like the Hurricane look like stars (although his credibilty was later on ruined by you-know-who). And after putting over all of those wrestlers, has his reputation been tarnished?

[Hunter Rider]

Not only that, but he also put over Triple H, Mick Foley....he's made guys like the Hurricane look like stars (although his credibilty was later on ruined by you-know-who). And after putting over all of those wrestlers, has his reputation been tarnished?

nope,he remains as big a star as ever,look at HBK he put over austin and HHH and Randy,Goldberg and angle at mania yet his status remains the same.I always remember austin refusing to put ove jarrett and making a fool outve him every week for a period in 99

[White_Howling]

does anyone remember who was the champ before austin rock and triple h made generation X? was it shawn?

[Hunter Rider]

does anyone remember who was the champ before austin rock and triple h made generation X? was it shawn?

yep it was HBK and before that Bret

[John Constantine]

Yeah, and that lead to Jarrett and Russo bolting to WCW immediately.

Although now Jarrett has become even worse in TNA....:(

[White_Howling]

Yeah, and that lead to Jarrett and Russo bolting to WCW immediately.

Although now Jarrett has become even worse in TNA....:(


so has jeff hardy.. i mean leg drops off the top rope.. he sure has gotten lazy. i want AJ styles in the WWE.. i mean their trying to make shelton B, like that.. but its just not as..... well amazing

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, and that lead to Jarrett and Russo bolting to WCW immediately.

Although now Jarrett has become even worse in TNA....:(

don't see TNA but has he been champ for like 2 years now ?

[DOG LIPS]

http://img20.echo.cx/img20/477/victoria026zz.jpg

Lucky little lizard bastard. :mad:






:(

[White_Howling]

a couple off ppl bolted to TNA.. like kevin nash.. DDP... Jeff... DLO....that dog from wcw..... well a bunch of ppl when i think about it

[John Constantine]

Not just that, but in putting over talent. He's become like Stone Cold in making sure that no one but him remains on top. I thought he would've learned his lesson with the way he was treated in WWF, but I guess not.

And as much as I would like to see AJ STyles in WWE, I would rather not. His style of wrestling would be so toned down from what we usually see (look at RVD). Plus, he's (a bit) better off in TNA for now. I mean, he's like the Sting of that promotion! ;) :D

[John Constantine]

don't see TNA but has he been champ for like 2 years now ?

Yep. And he's constantly going over all challengers. Just think of him as Triple H now. In fact, some people say he's just as bad as Triple H sometimes :eek:

[John Constantine]

a couple off ppl bolted to TNA.. like kevin nash.. DDP... Jeff... DLO....that dog from wcw..... well a bunch of ppl when i think about it

Yeah, but those people had no choice. They were all released by the WWE because they didn't want them. What TNA needs to do in order to gain some credibilty is sign a wrestler who's willing to leave the WWE to join TNA. I'm talking like a Chris Jericho. That'll improve TNA's standings a bit....

[Twitch]

To be honest I want HHH to lose the weight and go back to the build when he was running around DX. Have him turn face and Y2J turn back to the kickass rocker heel. And have a non-title feund away from Batista. That would so boost
Jericho's creditbility. Also it would be a breath of freash air for HHH. He's been a heel for like three years?

[White_Howling]

Yep. And he's constantly going over all challengers. Just think of him as Triple H now. In fact, some people say he's just as bad as Triple H sometimes :eek:


yeah why da hell does he still have guitar!!!! he doesn't sing any more.. whats sup with the guitar!!!! and now the guitar has sparks!!!!

[John Constantine]

yeah why da hell does he still have guitar!!!! he doesn't sing any more.. whats sup with the guitar!!!! and now the guitar has sparks!!!!

The guitar = Jeff Jarrett's sledgehammer

;)

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. And he's constantly going over all challengers. Just think of him as Triple H now. In fact, some people say he's just as bad as Triple H sometimes :eek:

sounds like a mix of HHH title obsession and stone cold selfishness:(

[Twitch]

I want Raven to hold the title at TNA

[John Constantine]

sounds like a mix of HHH title obsession and stone cold selfishness:(

It is. Like I said, it seems he didn't learn his lesson from when he was embarrassed by Stone Cold continuously.

And it doesn't help that his daddy owns the company....

[White_Howling]

yeah then they wussed out stone cold during the angel / stone cold fued.

[Hunter Rider]

It is. Like I said, it seems he didn't learn his lesson from when he was embarrassed by Stone Cold continuously.

And it doesn't help that his daddy owns the company....

its always the way,if you don't learn from the past your doomed to repeat it

[Twitch]

I would like to point out in the 80's, Hogan was just like Stone Cold and sorta like HHH. Difference: Him being a Face and absouluty an icon.

[John Constantine]

It's sad because TNA does have the potential to be a fed that could compete with the WWE, but it seems like they're content to be a distant second....:(

[John Constantine]

I would like to point out in the 80's, Hogan was just like Stone Cold and sorta like HHH. Difference: Him being a Face and absouluty an icon.

Sorta like Triple H? The guy was even worse than Triple H at some points. He humiliated all his opponents and made them look bad in comparison. Probably why a lot of wrestlers now can't stand the sight of him.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: LiveAudioWrestling.com

Rey Mysterio is still out of action with an injured ankle (sprain) from this past weekends house shows. Photos of that injury happening and Mysterio being helped by medics afterwards can be seen at this link (http://www.wrestlezone.com/imagery.php). No word yet on whether or not Mysterio will return to the ring on the upcoming weekend shows.

Shawn Michaels seemingly dodged a bullet and will not need surgery to repair his injured knee. Michaels originally injured the knee in a house show match a few weeks ago in a match against Christian. Michaels will be getting an MRI on his knee this week.



Brock Lesnar, with nothing else to do because of the lawsuit with WWE, is hosting a golf tournament coming up in Minnesota. More information can be found at MNDaily.com.

[Twitch]

Sorta like Triple H? The guy was even worse than Triple H at some points. He humiliated all his opponents and made them look bad in comparison. Probably why a lot of wrestlers now can't stand the sight of him.

Then why the hell did HBK team up with him. :confused:

BTW where the hell is Eugene?

[Hunter Rider]

Sorta like Triple H? The guy was even worse than Triple H at some points. He humiliated all his opponents and made them look bad in comparison. Probably why a lot of wrestlers now can't stand the sight of him.

yep and at least HHH does make guys look good and has dropped the belt at the last 2 manias.....now if he could just leave it dropped:o ;)

[John Constantine]

It's part of a storyline....plus, I don't think HBK hates him. But guys like Randy Savage and Undertaker do....

[Hunter Rider]

Then why the hell did HBK team up with him. :confused:

?

money and both are better guys bow than when they were younger

[John Constantine]

yep and at least HHH does make guys look good and has dropped the belt at the last 2 manias.....now if he could just leave it dropped:o ;)

That's true. I have to give credit for Triple H at least dropping the title twice during Wrestlemania. If he just took a break from the main event scene for like six months or even a year, I would have far, far, far less complaints about him to be honest.

[Hunter Rider]

That's true. I have to give credit for Triple H at least dropping the title twice during Wrestlemania. If he just took a break from the main event scene for like six months or even a year, I would have far, far, far less complaints about him to be honest.

Totaly agree,he is stagnent,he needs to try some other feuds and leave the title scene for a year and then return to it revitalised

[Twitch]

Hogan was a son of a ***** to Randy. Hogan was being a loud mouth with Taker but I still hate him when it came to those guys. Randy put on the best mid-card match at Mania. He should be respected.

[Hunter Rider]

Hogan was a son of a ***** to Randy. Hogan was being a loud mouth with Taker but I still hate him when it came to those guys. Randy put on the best mid-card match at Mania. He should be respected.

Randy Savage vs Ricky steamboat>>>>>>>>>>>>Hogan vs Andre

[John Constantine]

Hogan was a son of a ***** to Randy. Hogan was being a loud mouth with Taker but I still hate him when it came to those guys. Randy put on the best mid-card match at Mania. He should be respected.

Hogan was an absolute bastard to the Undertaker. I mean, look at their title match in Survivor Series. Undertaker was being built up to be this main event champion. What happens? Undertaker beats Hogan for the title with interference from Ric Flair. Then a couple days later, Hogan beats UT for the title cleanly :rolleyes: :mad:

[Twitch]

Randy Savage vs Ricky steamboat>>>>>>>>>>>>Hogan vs Andre

Best 15 mins of the whole damm event. Hogan had to win, people were screaming crazy for him.

[Twitch]

Hogan was an absolute bastard to the Undertaker. I mean, look at their title match in Survivor Series. Undertaker was being built up to be this main event champion. What happens? Undertaker beats Hogan for the title with interference from Ric Flair. Then a couple days later, Hogan beats UT for the title cleanly :rolleyes: :mad:

Taker should have his title run. You know this is an old school example that fed the Stone Cold-Kane storyline. Kane only holding it for a freakin day and then losing it to Stone Cold. What bull****.

[Hunter Rider]

Hogan was an absolute bastard to the Undertaker. I mean, look at their title match in Survivor Series. Undertaker was being built up to be this main event champion. What happens? Undertaker beats Hogan for the title with interference from Ric Flair. Then a couple days later, Hogan beats UT for the title cleanly :rolleyes: :mad:

actually he didn't beat him clean,he threw ashes in his face and rolled him up,thats why jack tunney stripped him and declared the winner of the 92 Rumble the new champ which was subsequently won by Ric Flair

[John Constantine]

Oh, I didn't remember that technicality.....

Isn't it a bit odd though that Flair had to win the title in the Royal RUmble and not by beating Hogan, something that was teased about for a long time? :confused: :o

[Hunter Rider]

Oh, I didn't remember that technicality.....

Isn't it a bit odd though that Flair had to win the title in the Royal RUmble and not by beating Hogan, something that was teased about for a long time? :confused: :o

typical Hogan,he wouldn't put flair over and he did the same tp bret,ironicaly 2 years later Flair put Hogan over in WCW

[John Constantine]

I remembered Hogan getting boo's in WCW as well. Like that match with Sting he had, people were cheering for Sting over Hogan.....

[Hunter Rider]

I remembered Hogan getting boo's in WCW as well. Like that match with Sting he had, people were cheering for Sting over Hogan.....

yep,thats why sting was made into the crow and spent 18 months swinging from the roof

[Sabretooth]

I heard Undertaker missed this year's hall of fame induction because he didn't want to be in the same room as Hogan.Shows how much of an ******* Hogan was.:rolleyes:


And remember when Hogan totally screwed up Undertaker and made him botch the chokeslam the last time he won the title.

[Lobo]

I miss Sting :(

[John Constantine]

yep,thats why sting was made into the crow and spent 18 months swinging from the roof

Yeah, I remember that. I also remember the huge build-up for the Sting-Hogan match in Starcade and what a cluster**** it ended up being.


..........


You know, the WWE should really come out with a Rise and Fall of WCW dvd :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I remember that. I also remember the huge build-up for the Sting-Hogan match in Starcade and what a cluster**** it ended up being.


..........


You know, the WWE should really come out with a Rise and Fall of WCW dvd :up:

yep now that would be gold:D
the sting/Hogan match was built as the match of the decade and it was basically 10 of the lamest minutes ever put together in a wrestling ring,I would love to know why sting agreed to an angle that took 10 months to get to the match and included no wrestling so that by the time he got there he was rusty as hell facing a 47 year old has been:confused:

[John Constantine]

yep now that would be gold:D
the sting/Hogan match was built as the match of the decade and it was basically 10 of the lamest minutes ever put together in a wrestling ring,I would love to know why sting agreed to an angle that took 10 months to get to the match and included no wrestling so that by the time he got there he was rusty as hell facing a 47 year old has been:confused:

It was probably because Hogan didn't want to do much. He was probably at "extremely bighead" phase back then....

And I would definitely buy a dvd of that if it came out. And I really wouldn't be surprised if WWE did make a dvd like that considering how much of a success the Rise and Fall of ECW dvd was. I can already see some of the stuff in it:

-Hogan joining the nWo
-the rise of the nWo
-that Sting/Hogan Starcade match
-The dreaded fingerpoke of Doom match that totally ****ed over WCW

and last but not least:

-David Arquette becoming WCW champion, putting the nails in the coffin for WCW

:up:

[Hunter Rider]

It was probably because Hogan didn't want to do much. He was probably at "extremely bighead" phase back then....

And I would definitely buy a dvd of that if it came out. And I really wouldn't be surprised if WWE did make a dvd like that considering how much of a success the Rise and Fall of ECW dvd was. I can already see some of the stuff in it:

-Hogan joining the nWo
-the rise of the nWo
-that Sting/Hogan Starcade match
-The dreaded fingerpoke of Doom match that totally ****ed over WCW

and last but not least:

-David Arquette becoming WCW champion, putting the nails in the coffin for WCW

:up:

ah yes Hogans lazy phase,the only champ ive ever known to not wrestle PPV's.

david arquette=the peak of Russo's genius:o :D

[LastSunrise1981]

I remember that huge build-up with Sting as The Crow. Of course, that was during WCW's hot period and that angle was absolute gold, especially when you consider the fact that you became more impatient with Sting.

Hogan has clearly changed for the better. When he cameback to the WWE he cleanly put over The Rock, Angle, and Lesnar. Even in his prime he would've never have done that, so, you have to give him credit for putting over younger and more talented athletes.

Undertaker has no room to talk about anyone being an *******. He's done his fair share of holding people down. I don't know if anyone remembers, but RVD was supposed to beat him for the title, but Undertaker changed it and said RVD was too stiff to be champion. Of course, lo and behold, Undertaker remained champion and RVD went on to eventually be buried by Ego H.

Undertaker often would not sell to O'Haire, Kanyon, DDP, and Jindrak. Remember when DDP was pinned by the Undertakers wife? :rolleyes:

Because of UT's ego, those wrestlers I mentioned above were never taken seriously, so he's definitely an icon and a legend, but on a personal level he's done his fair share of dirty acts.

[The Techno Bat]

I think it is great that Cena's CD went from 15 on the charts last week to 50 this week. HA HA HA HA HA HA Concentrate on what brought you to the game Cena and wrestle, he was awesome when he first wrestled Kurt Angle as a rookie

[The Techno Bat]

Hulk Hogan is a 12 time world champion, HHH is closing in on that mark

[Sabretooth]

From Wrestling-Edge.com :

Edge talked publicly for the first time ever about his affair with Lita earlier this month. He was part of a 40-minute journalist roundtable with Cena, Stacy Keibler, Victoria, and others at the Electronics Entertainment Expo in California on 5/19. Edge said it's tough maintaining family relationships on the road. He said his mom is the most important person in the world to him and he maybe gets to see her every two or three months. He hangs out with his friends he grew up with once every year if he's lucky. He said the situation with Lita was awkward for both of them. The storyline with Kane spawned out of real-life and there were never any plans for it to happen. He said Vince paid attention to the crowd reactions and asked them to go with it: "We could give it 50% and it just wouldn't work. So we said, okay, we've got to take this and run with it. We've been put in this position now and we might as well go with it." Edge claimed that he still talks to Matt Hardy about two times a week. Regarding the Internet coverage of his personal life: "I think a lot of people have a lot of time on their hands. That was my first thought about it. It's interesting that my life seems to be so interesting to other people. I've accepted being the Angelina Jolie of the locker room."

[Metamorpho1977]

Sting was awesome back then. The WWE needs to come to some kind of agreement and give him a little while longer in the spotlight.

[John Constantine]

Speaking of which, I just saw the TNA show back in 2003 where they celebrated their one year anniversary. What was the main event match? AJ Styles and Syxx-Pac vs. Jeff Jarrett and Sting.

Man, was it great to see Sting wrestle again :up:

[3dman27]

in regards to ego h's lip spinach WHATSUP WITHAT? it makes him look like a 19th century railroad tycoon

[kane9321]

just show more "victoria" and everything will be fine

[LastSunrise1981]

Sting was awesome back then. The WWE needs to come to some kind of agreement and give him a little while longer in the spotlight.

Sting will not come to the WWE. He has stated numerous times he has no intentions on being there, especially when you consider his new found christianity.

I also believe he doesn't want to be used like past WCW wrestlers.

[Metamorpho1977]

Sting really knew how to sell a match. The Power Plant used to be near my grandfather's house in Atlanta. I used to go by there and watch the guys training. You should have seen Big Show's moonsault. I have so many Sting autographs too. I have some Lex Lugar autographs too, anyone want them?

[John Constantine]

Sting will not come to the WWE. He has stated numerous times he has no intentions on being there, especially when you consider his new found christianity.

I also believe he doesn't want to be used like past WCW wrestlers.

Kinda sad because the WCW invasion back in 2000 needed basically only two wrestlers to truly be WCW: Sting and Ric Flair. And both weren't there...:(

Probably one of the reasons why the invasion failed.....Yeah, there were others, but still....

[Pink Ranger]

From Wrestling-Edge.com :

Says Edge: ". . . I've accepted being the Angelina Jolie of the locker room."

Wow . . . too . . . many . . . jokes . . . to even . . . begin . . .


#1. "I'll never watch 'Gia' the same way ever again."

#2. "That's right, his interviews are about as exciting as 'Beyond Borders.'"

#3. "They've both had hardcore sex with Billy Bob Thornton, but other than that I don't see the connection."

#4. "Wow, the UN must be really scraping the bottom of the barrel now for its Goodwill Ambassador program."

#5. " . . . Huh? Oh sorry, for a minute there I was imagining Angelina and Lita together . . ."

#6. "Yes, and before you know it, Angelina's own fake brother wiill emerge and become a better performer than her in every way possible."

#7. "They've both worn skintight shortshorts. Her in Tomb Raider, him to Pat Patterson's Oscar party."

#8. "Sorry, but I think even Edge has better judgement than to date someone who was in 'Troy.'"

#9. "Hey, as long as Triple H is in charge, their chances of winning the World Title are about equal."

#10. "In related news, Edge has adopted a Cambodian baby. He then dumped that baby so he could adopt a younger, hotter Cambodian baby."

[Sabretooth]

You know,if HHH pulled an Orton,and stayed out of the camera's view for a couple months,I'm sure he would get the same reaction randy got when he came back a few weeks ago.The crowd would possibly cheer him even though he's heel.

Speaking of Randy Orton,I hope when he comes back he gets more heelish music. His current song only worked for when he was a face.

[Donnie Darko]

am I the only one that gets really depressed every time I watch SD because I see Taz doing commentary instead of wrestling? it's even worse now with the ECW ppv coming up.

[John Constantine]

At least they had some cool ECW promos on SD this week :up:

[Sabretooth]

am I the only one that gets really depressed every time I watch SD because I see Taz doing commentary instead of wrestling? it's even worse now with the ECW ppv coming up.
Yeah.Last week they really teased him wrestling with Angle.I'd love to see him back in the ring.

[Donnie Darko]

yeah, it seems like they tease us a lot, like making us think he MIGHT just get up and kick someone's ass, but never does. I really wanted him to go after Heidenreich after that... incident... with Michael Cole backstage.

[Sabretooth]

yeah, it seems like they tease us a lot, like making us think he MIGHT just get up and kick someone's ass, but never does. I really wanted him to go after Heidenreich after that... incident... with Michael Cole backstage.
Yeah.I just want one more match out of him:(

And on another note,I really hope they start doing something with Jindrak,he may be bland in the ring,but he's funny as hell on the mic :D

[Donnie Darko]

come to think of it, Smackdown really does need some hoes that put out

[Donnie Darko]

speaking of hoes that put out...

whatever happened with that Haas and Dawn Marie having an affair storyline?

[LastSunrise1981]

You know,if HHH pulled an Orton,and stayed out of the camera's view for a couple months,I'm sure he would get the same reaction randy got when he came back a few weeks ago.The crowd would possibly cheer him even though he's heel.

Speaking of Randy Orton,I hope when he comes back he gets more heelish music. His current song only worked for when he was a face.

You know, if Ego H left for like two or three years, and stayed out of the WWE completley and didn't let anyone know where he was, then the fans at home and at the arenas would give an exploding standing ovation.

Ego H gets "X-Pac Heat now". People are sick of him and sick of his hogging the spotlight, hence why they never really get behind a new champion. Because in the end, they know who the belt is going back to and they figure "why bother?".

[Metamorpho1977]

I wouldn't totally count Sting out. HBK said he wouldn't come back because of Christian beliefs at one point also.

[brainchild81]

I remember that huge build-up with Sting as The Crow. Of course, that was during WCW's hot period and that angle was absolute gold, especially when you consider the fact that you became more impatient with Sting.

Hogan has clearly changed for the better. When he cameback to the WWE he cleanly put over The Rock, Angle, and Lesnar. Even in his prime he would've never have done that, so, you have to give him credit for putting over younger and more talented athletes.

Undertaker has no room to talk about anyone being an *******. He's done his fair share of holding people down. I don't know if anyone remembers, but RVD was supposed to beat him for the title, but Undertaker changed it and said RVD was too stiff to be champion. Of course, lo and behold, Undertaker remained champion and RVD went on to eventually be buried by Ego H.

Undertaker often would not sell to O'Haire, Kanyon, DDP, and Jindrak. Remember when DDP was pinned by the Undertakers wife? :rolleyes:
I remember the RVD thing. I also heard they edited out some of the RVD chants and put in some 'Taker ones. And somebody made mention of the Stone/Cold Kane thing? Kane honestly doesn't deserve a belt. I know there have been less deserving people who've had it, but Kane is lame nontheless.

[John Constantine]

I wouldn't totally count Sting out. HBK said he wouldn't come back because of Christian beliefs at one point also.

Sting's a bit different though. He's like a hardcore NWA/WCW man. I doubt he'll ever go to WWE because he might see that as selling out....

[PyroChamber]

Is it me, or have the only times that Triple H was tolerable been whenever he was a face?

When he was a face, 2001-2002, it seems like he wasn't really on camera that much.

[White_Howling]

Is it me, or have the only times that Triple H was tolerable been whenever he was a face?

When he was a face, 2001-2002, it seems like he wasn't really on camera that much.


he does better as a heel i think..... well i think most character are better as heels.. they seem to be able to enjoy the role more.. which results in better acting

[Donnie Darko]

I think he was best in the original DX days, with him, HBK, Chyna, and Rick Rude (for a little while).

[Sabretooth]

from lordsofpain.net:

''Adding to a report broken on this website earlier in the week, PWInsider.com cites WWE sources who are expressing much frustration over the ECW PPV. What was originally viewed as a heavily-anticipated show has lost quite a bit of luster amongst those backstage, with some even 'dreading' the PPV.

The original idea was for the PPV to be a legitimate "ECW-style" show full of input from Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman. However, when the show failed to sellout in the first week of ticket availability (many blame the $400 price tag), WWE made the call to include some WWE workers and step back from the pure-ECW format. When that didn't increase buzz, WWE was forced to drop some of the ticket prices and include wrestlers from both WWE rosters in "invasion" storylines.

Much of the show will now be in the hands of the WWE creative team, which has not recently impressed those in the industry. As the PPV approaches, the show that was supposed to be a throwback to the ECW days is becoming more and more like a traditional WWE PPV.''

[GLfan]

Looks like they're going to ruin what could've been a fantastic PPV.

[3dman27]

Looks like they're going to ruin what could've been a fantastic PPV.
afraid i have to agree with you there glfan

[Sabretooth]

I'm sorta shocked.ECW Rise and Fall did pretty good,why would fans not be interested?:(

[Metamorpho1977]

Sting's a bit different though. He's like a hardcore NWA/WCW man. I doubt he'll ever go to WWE because he might see that as selling out....

i know, I just want to see a Sting/Undertaker fight before the end of the world. the Sting/Mean Mark feud back in early WCW doesn't count.

[Pink Ranger]

i know, I just want to see a Sting/Undertaker fight before the end of the world. the Sting/Mean Mark feud back in early WCW doesn't count.

Unfortunately, if Sting/Undertaker ever had a match their ring entrances would eat up like 15 minutes together.

[Donnie Darko]

from lordsofpain.net:

''Adding to a report broken on this website earlier in the week, PWInsider.com cites WWE sources who are expressing much frustration over the ECW PPV. What was originally viewed as a heavily-anticipated show has lost quite a bit of luster amongst those backstage, with some even 'dreading' the PPV.

The original idea was for the PPV to be a legitimate "ECW-style" show full of input from Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman. However, when the show failed to sellout in the first week of ticket availability (many blame the $400 price tag), WWE made the call to include some WWE workers and step back from the pure-ECW format. When that didn't increase buzz, WWE was forced to drop some of the ticket prices and include wrestlers from both WWE rosters in "invasion" storylines.

Much of the show will now be in the hands of the WWE creative team, which has not recently impressed those in the industry. As the PPV approaches, the show that was supposed to be a throwback to the ECW days is becoming more and more like a traditional WWE PPV.''

That really sucks. I was so hyped about the ppv, now it looks like I might be saving my money...

[Super Kal]

so what happened on Smackdown last night?

[John Constantine]

I'm sorta shocked.ECW Rise and Fall did pretty good,why would fans not be interested?:(

Probably the same reason why the WWF felt they had to "add" Steve Austin to the Alliance back during the Invasion angle......

I'm not really surprised that the WWE is becoming more and more involved in this PPV. It seems like they've wanted to do that from the start.

[Sabretooth]

Still,I don't want to believe how much WWE is probably going to rape ECW :(

[John Constantine]

Are you honestly surprised though? Look at the way both ECW and WCW were treated during the Invasion. Look at the way any non-WWE created wrestler is treated in the WWE....it's pretty sad.

[Sabretooth]

Are you honestly surprised though? Look at the way both ECW and WCW were treated during the Invasion. Look at the way any non-WWE created wrestler is treated in the WWE....it's pretty sad.
Still,I'm sorta pissed off at the people who instead of buying tickets to something that could've been worth it,instead they buy tickets for the show where HHH came back,or to buy Cena's album :(

But maybe I shouldn't blame it that much on the fans,it was sorta obvious WWE would have at least SOME control of the PPV,despite what Vince says on the air :rolleyes:

[John Constantine]

I'm not surprised though. I mean first of all, they charge through the roof for ECW tickets. I mean they were like 100 dollars min weren't they?

Second of all, despite everything, ECW is a small-market federation. It really wasn't gonna sell out, despite what everyone says.

It's sounding more like WWE wanted to have control of the PPV from the start and wanted it to make things hard in order to accomplish that.

[Super Kal]

what year do you think the WWE flourished the most?

[Jason Blood]

I missed TNA today because of some darts championship

[The Batman]

I was thinking about storylines,and Kane needs to be revamped:

*Have Edge Burn Kane's entire body. Then, like in ROTS, have Paul Bearer and his minions retrieve Kane's carcass. Then, show the revival of the monster by donning the mask and creating a badass outfit. Then, Kane would be the monster on Raw, eventually winning the title for a short run. He'd be neither Heel no face, attacking anyone he wants when he wants.

[Sabretooth]

I was thinking about storylines,and Kane needs to be revamped:

*Have Edge Burn Kane's entire body. Then, like in ROTS, have Paul Bearer and his minions retrieve Kane's carcass. Then, show the revival of the monster by donning the mask and creating a badass outfit. Then, Kane would be the monster on Raw, eventually winning the title for a short run. He'd be neither Heel no face, attacking anyone he wants when he wants.
That would kick insane amounts of ass.I really like the idea.Only thing is Paul Bearer's been released.They could always get The Undertaker to transform Kane,or something else.

But,I don't really like him being neutral.That would confuse the fans.I say have him just destroy Edge.Like have him friggin drowning in blood,and maybe even set him on fire.Then,they could do what happened to Anakin in ROTS,starting with him burning Edge like Anakin killed Dooku,and then just slowly transform Kane into a sick and twisted monster.

[Pink Ranger]

I was thinking about storylines,and Kane needs to be revamped:

*Have Edge Burn Kane's entire body. Then, like in ROTS, have Paul Bearer and his minions retrieve Kane's carcass. Then, show the revival of the monster by donning the mask and creating a badass outfit. Then, Kane would be the monster on Raw, eventually winning the title for a short run. He'd be neither Heel no face, attacking anyone he wants when he wants.

"Nooooooooo!!!"

[John Constantine]

It kinda might be hard to burn Kane's entire body since he's been burned twice already and escaped with only minor wounds....;) :D

[The Batman]

That would kick insane amounts of ass.I really like the idea.Only thing is Paul Bearer's been released.They could always get The Undertaker to transform Kane,or something else.

But,I don't really like him being neutral.That would confuse the fans.I say have him just destroy Edge.Like have him friggin drowning in blood,and maybe even set him on fire.Then,they could do what happened to Anakin in ROTS,starting with him burning Edge like Anakin killed Dooku,and then just slowly transform Kane into a sick and twisted monster.

I'd rehire Bearer, personally. Taker's got his own business to take care of. Especially since Bearer's lost alot of weight...

I just want Kane to be FEARED....so feared that guys like Batista and HHH wouldnt want to face him...but that wont happen...

I dont think it'd be hard to reburn his body...how many continuity errors have WWE made? Too many. I had an idea that he'd have burn marks or something, but that probably wouldnt work....

[3dman27]

I missed TNA today because of some darts championship
maybe not jason remember tna stopped production of its show when its fsn contact ended two weeks ago the darts campionship was probably substitute programming

[Donnie Darko]

ok, I missed some wrestling (especially SD) for a while I guess over summer... what happened after the Great American Bash when Undertaker turned on Paul Bearer and pulled the switch on the cement truck?

[Jason Blood]

maybe not jason remember tna stopped production of its show when its fsn contact ended two weeks ago the darts campionship was probably substitute programming

I didn't know :eek:

TNA still has updates and stuff for Impact though (I think...)

[John Constantine]

Well they better since Slammiversary (god, what a lame title) is taking place pretty soon.....

[Metamorpho1977]

TNA is supposed to be making a deal for a monday night show with WGN.

[The Techno Bat]

from lordsofpain.net:

''Adding to a report broken on this website earlier in the week, PWInsider.com cites WWE sources who are expressing much frustration over the ECW PPV. What was originally viewed as a heavily-anticipated show has lost quite a bit of luster amongst those backstage, with some even 'dreading' the PPV.

The original idea was for the PPV to be a legitimate "ECW-style" show full of input from Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman. However, when the show failed to sellout in the first week of ticket availability (many blame the $400 price tag), WWE made the call to include some WWE workers and step back from the pure-ECW format. When that didn't increase buzz, WWE was forced to drop some of the ticket prices and include wrestlers from both WWE rosters in "invasion" storylines.

Much of the show will now be in the hands of the WWE creative team, which has not recently impressed those in the industry. As the PPV approaches, the show that was supposed to be a throwback to the ECW days is becoming more and more like a traditional WWE PPV.''

Good I hated eCw, I really think that the WWE doing this PPV is a step backwards for them.

[John Constantine]

TNA is supposed to be making a deal for a monday night show with WGN.

Yeah, but unfortunately, talks with WGN haven't been too positive...:(

[DrMylesOBoogie]

It has gone to ****. I loved back in the days of the Austin/McMahon and Rocky/Triple H feuds.

[Twitch]

Lance Storm finally made his return to the ring against maven, one of the crusaders, on Heat. Lance won thank god

[The Ghoul]

It wasn't his return to the ring, it was his last match. He is retiring to open a wrestling school in Calgery... Alberta, Canada. (I think I am going to miss that the most about Storm.) Accually, his real last match is a ECW: One Night Stand against Jericho. He said thet Jericho was his opponent in his first match & it is kind of a dream to have him as his last.

[The Techno Bat]

The respective heavyweight champions for both the RAW and Smackdown!
brand will be teaming up together for the first time ever in a tag team
match. At the July 11th RAW tapings at the Continental Airlines Arena in
East Rutherford, NJ., Batista and John Cena will be joining forces in a
match against Triple H and John 'Bradshaw' Layfield. That is unless
there's a title change between now and that date. The match is expected
to be for fans only in the arena and not televised.

Source Wrestling Observer Newsletter

[The Techno Bat]

Okay with the draft actually starting tomorrow who should go where? List your top five superstars to switch shows

GOING TO RAW:
1. Kurt Angle
2. Billy Kidman
3. Rey Mysterio
4. The Big Show
5. JBL

GOING TO SMACKDOWN:
1. Christian
2. Chris Jericho
3. The Hurricane
4. HBK
5. Rob Conway

I have a question about the draft. Say RAW drafts John Cena on Monday night, could Smackdown draft him back on Thursday?

[3dman27]

i hope raw drafts and keeps rvd

[U.S War Machine]

HBK better stay on raw, because I couldn't see him on smackdown.

[Go Web Go!]

Word on the street is that HBK is infact off to Smackdown. Could give the show a lift...

[Sabretooth]

Meh,they're probably not gonna draft any of the bigger stars(HBK,Angle,Undertaker,etc.) until the last 2 weeks of the lottery.

[Jason Blood]

I read somewhere that Angle is going to Raw

also Rob Conway is (hopefully) going to become the next Shelton (being overlooked while in a tag-team (except the WGTT was the BEST ****ING TAG-TEAM EVER))

[car2nin]

I agree with you 100%. Don't forget about The Road Warrios, Dusty Rhodes, Magnum T.A., Wahoo McDaniel, Tully Blanchard w/Baby Doll, The Midnight Express, The Rock and Roll Express, The Garvins, Manny Fernandez, and many more I probably forgot. I have to dig my old tapes out and watch the real Great American Bash '86 and '87. Starrcade and The Crocket Cup were good too.
Yeah man! Now you're talkin' wrestlin'!!!

[John Constantine]

I read somewhere that Angle is going to Raw

also Rob Conway is (hopefully) going to become the next Shelton (being overlooked while in a tag-team (except the WGTT was the BEST ****ING TAG-TEAM EVER))

That would be cool. But it's been said that ANgle and Triple H don't like each other backstage, so it might not happen....


I would love it if Conway does break out as a singles star though. A move to Smackdown could help get the title off Orlando Jordan and his damn hair and bring a little respectabilty to the title. I'm also hoping that Renee Dupree gets moved back to Raw so him and Grenier could reform the original La Resistance.

[Sabretooth]

I can really see Orton moving,and remember when Christian was saying there's no canadian on smackdown?Something tells me a canadian will get drafted,but it'll be somebody like Edge.

Oh,and from lordsofpain.net:

In an interview with The London Sun, Rob Van Dam spoke rather candidly about the ECW PPV. Van Dam, who is credited with first pitching the idea for the PPV, feels there is a faction within WWE trying to undermine its success:

"It will always be a problem because there are certain voices higher-up that like to flatten out anything that could jeopardize their stronghold, rather than seeing the overall benefit to the industry of something like this. So, for sure, there is going to be some turbulence and some swimming up stream. But this show has a strong possibility of finishing as the third biggest PPV of the year. And if that happens there's one guy in the office who is really good at making decisions and has the best interests of this business in his heart."

He also attacked the decision to include RAW and SmackDown! "invasions" at the show:

"Those guys are definitely not going to be drawing the ratings for this PPV. They are definitely not selling any seats. Nobody's coming to see them and they have no business being there. The original plan was to have only ECW alumni on this show. There is no place for somebody pretending they're hardcore when they were never there, whether they've got a sledgehammer in their hand or not! The WWE writers are taking part in the show, but us true hardcore ECW guys will vote out anything ridiculous they try to add to it."

[John Constantine]

bwahahahah....gotta love that poke at Triple H :D

I swear, RVD is probably the only wrestler who can do that and not have to worry about getting fired over it....

[Sabretooth]

I was hoping someone would catch that.:D

I feel bad for RVD though,he really could have made ONS something great,but Vince and friends had to **** it up.:(

[John Constantine]

Hey, it wouldn't be a true ECW/WCW production nowadays without the WWE sticking their noses in it and making themselves look better.....

[Sabretooth]

Hey, it wouldn't be a true ECW/WCW production nowadays without the WWE sticking their noses in it and making themselves look better.....
Yeah,it would've been too good to be true.But I don't see why the PPV would've hurt WWE or whatever.ECW is dead,it'd be nice if WWE didn't have to piss on it's grave :(

[John Constantine]

Meh, at least we're still getting a ECW PPV. And I'm just praying that there will at least be a scene right in the beginning of the PPV where they have the entire ECW roster come out and kick the asses of all the WWE invaders. That might be an interesting way to open up the PPV.

[LastSunrise1981]

bwahahahah....gotta love that poke at Triple H :D

I swear, RVD is probably the only wrestler who can do that and not have to worry about getting fired over it....

Oh give it time. They'll probably trade RVD to Raw so Ego H can bury him some more. :o

But he's obviously telling the truth about the WWE. Which leads me to believe he'll leave once his contract is up, which of course will be better for him and his talents. Maybe he can go to ROH, TNA(If it's still around), or possibly some other indie wrestling circuits around the world.

Hey, I have an idea. Maybe they can include the show "Heat" on the draft and trade Ego H to Sunday Night Heat. Since they obviously believe that he brings in ratings, put him on that show and see what happens. :joker:

[3dman27]

Oh give it time. They'll probably trade RVD to Raw so Ego H can bury him some more. :o

But he's obviously telling the truth about the WWE. Which leads me to believe he'll leave once his contract is up, which of course will be better for him and his talents. Maybe he can go to ROH, TNA(If it's still around), or possibly some other indie wrestling circuits around the world.

Hey, I have an idea. Maybe they can include the show "Heat" on the draft and trade Ego H to Sunday Night Heat. Since they obviously believe that he brings in ratings, put him on that show and see what happens. :joker:
better yet velocity

[3dman27]

i hope raw drafts and keeps rvd
any ideas on who'd get picked to where?

[kane9321]

the hurricane
tajiri
maybe jericho moving to smackdown

I'd love to see booker t (keep his loud wife on smackdown)
kurt angle
matt morgan
big show on raw

[Donnie Darko]

how bout just get rid of his wife all together?

[John Constantine]

Oh give it time. They'll probably trade RVD to Raw so Ego H can bury him some more. :o

But he's obviously telling the truth about the WWE. Which leads me to believe he'll leave once his contract is up, which of course will be better for him and his talents. Maybe he can go to ROH, TNA(If it's still around), or possibly some other indie wrestling circuits around the world.

Hey, I have an idea. Maybe they can include the show "Heat" on the draft and trade Ego H to Sunday Night Heat. Since they obviously believe that he brings in ratings, put him on that show and see what happens. :joker:

I thought his contract expired a year ago and he re-signed with the WWE :confused:

But yeah, he's always ripping into Triple H and the WWE in interviews. I mean how can he lose anyways? He's already getting buried and he's never going to be the champion. Might as well get his shots in while he can :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

I thought his contract expired a year ago and he re-signed with the WWE :confused:

But yeah, he's always ripping into Triple H and the WWE in interviews. I mean how can he lose anyways? He's already getting buried and he's never going to be the champion. Might as well get his shots in while he can :up:

How about we contact the gray aliens, make a deal with them and have them abduct Ego H and Stephanie. :oo

They should make him champion on Smackdown though. I remember they had a great potential feud with Jericho(as champion) and RVD, but we all know what happened with that. :rolleyes:

They forgot about RVD and made Ego H the champion. 0MG TR1LPE H BETS CHIMPIANO EVA!!!111111 L0l11!!!! :rolleyes:

You know. More than ever, I'm beginning to lose complete and utter faith in the WWE. I know I promised I would do this before, but this time I mean it, I'm not watching any WWE or that ECW PPV until something changes.

Especially with Ego H getting ANOTHER title shot at Batista. Storyline wise everyone has to earn their shot, but he can get as many as he wants. I mean, Jesus Christ, how many rematch clauses does he ****ing have?! It's getting very old and I'm getting quite sick of it.

Forgive me for ranting and getting angry, but it just pisses me off to see how the WWE was once entertaining, unpredictable, and had great matches for everyone. Now they're reduced to the Ego H Monday Night Raw Show.

I want to see more Edge, Jericho, Shelton Benjamin, Christian, Batista, Hurricane(With the right push), Randy Orton(Let him develop more), Shawn Michaels(Still can put on a great match), and Kane. No more of this Ego H or Evolution love-fest, let them bring some new blood in and keep Ego H AWAY from the goddamn belt!

And when someone else wins the belt, don't let that big nosed jackass be the FOCAL point of a feud with a midcarder. Example: Ego H vs. Eugene while Chris Benoit was feuding with Randy Orton.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I feel the same thing. But to be honest, I don't really consider the championship on Raw to be the real championship belt anyways. I just see it as a belt that Triple H is allowed to hold onto because he can't hold on to the real championship belt currently in Smackdown. I mean look at it, that belt was practically handed over to him on one episode of Raw just because he happened to be the number one contender at the time and Brock Lesner jumped exclusively to Smackdown. That reeked of total bull**** right there.

[3dman27]

How about we contact the gray aliens, make a deal with them and have them abduct Ego H and Stephanie. :oo

No more of this Ego H or Evolution love-fest, let them bring some new blood in and keep Ego H AWAY from the goddamn belt!

good idea aboutthe ego h /evolution lovefest i mean

[Sabretooth]

I really wonder what Stephanie thinks of HHH.Can she be stupid enough to think that he actually loves her?And Vince is even worse.I hope that when Triple H tries to go and beat Flair's record,either Vince or Flair or even Stephanie put their foot down and make him stop.:)

[LastSunrise1981]

I really wonder what Stephanie thinks of HHH.Can she be stupid enough to think that he actually loves her?And Vince is even worse.I hope that when Triple H tries to go and beat Flair's record,either Vince or Flair or even Stephanie put their foot down and make him stop.:)

If Vince hasn't put his foot down now, what makes you think he'll do it in the future?

You would've thought Vince could see through this BS and change it.

[3dman27]

If Vince hasn't put his foot down now, what makes you think he'll do it in the future?

You would've thought Vince could see through this BS and change it.
so it would seem

[John Constantine]

There are rumors that not only will the draft lottery take place tonight on Raw, but that Sandman, Tommy Dreamer and the Dudleys will make an appearance tonight. Here's hoping that Sandman canes the hell out of the so-called general of the Raw faction, Edge.

I really have to be honest now, with the appearances of some ECW stars and the start of the draft lottery, which means that both Raw and SD stars will be on the same show, I'm feeling a bit hyped for tonight's Raw :up:

[Lobo]

I know that there's the whole Edge/Lita thing but Lita should be with the ECW crew. Imagine if they played up how slutty Lita was and she tells Edge that he wasn't Extreme enough and she leaves with Sandman. That won't happen but I'd like to see it. I'd love to see Sandman cane the living hell out of Bradshaw on the 12th. Is Sabu confirmed for the show? I don't want to get my hopes to high for tonights Raw because I'll know I'll be setting myself up for disappointment, and it'll be something like Mark Jindrak on Raw

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I think Sabu is confirmed for the show. Basically every major ECW star is confirmed except for the ones that are a part of TNA at the moment - Raven, Jerry Lynn, and Shane Douglas are the more prominent ones.

The best part - they actually got Joey Styles as the commentator :eek:

[Sabretooth]

HOLY ****!:eek: Cena!

[Jason Blood]

HOLY ****!:eek: Cena!

HOLY ****!:eek: Cena!

[Sabretooth]

Christian better kick his ass

[John Constantine]

Gotta admit, that's a great way to start off the draft :up:

Plus, Cena actually started rapping again :eek:



Although, I have the feeling that Cena's going back to Smackdown by the fourth week.....

[Twitch]

Holy **** Christian is a great heel made Cena look good :up:

[Twitch]

Gotta admit, that's a great way to start off the draft :up:

Plus, Cena actually started rapping again :eek:



Although, I have the feeling that Cena's going back to Smackdown by the fourth week.....

Yeah he had problems with HHH

[Sabretooth]

Gotta admit, that's a great way to start off the draft :up:

Plus, Cena actually started rapping again :eek:



Although, I have the feeling that Cena's going back to Smackdown by the fourth week.....
Yeah I was giggling like a schoolgirl when he started rapping.:D

And yeah,once they see ratings drop you can bet your ass Cena's going back.Sucks,he could have a great feud with Christian.:(

[John Constantine]

That's what I want to start seeing with Cena again. More intensity and raps and less of the pandering.


It's not just ratings drop though, I'm betting it's part of the plan to have Cena go on Raw for a few weeks, then move back. I think the only reason why Cena is even on Raw right now is to reinforce the "No One's Safe" motto.

[Twitch]

Yeah I was giggling like a schoolgirl when he started rapping.:D

And yeah,once they see ratings drop you can bet your ass Cena's going back.Sucks,he could have a great feud with Christian.:(

But wait Christian can follow him to Smackdown :up:

[Super Kal]

I have an idea. I know they're signing that Hell in a Cell match, but what if right before the signing, HHH was signed over to Smackdown?

Probably will never happen, but it would definitely be worth watching

[Donnie Darko]

I'm really gonna like Cena being on Raw because he can be more vulgar and whatnot (like his raps and "five second salute" tonight). Either BAtista or HHH will get drafted to SD, and I'm guessing whoever gets drafted is gonna win the title at Vengeance, therefore taking that belt and replacing Cena.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah.Memories of Cena from like 2 years ago flowed back to me tonight.I really hope Cena stays on Raw.Only problem is him and HHH supposedly hate each other.I hope Cena doesn't get drafted back,though I'm sure it's gonna happen :(

[Donnie Darko]

oh my... I would so **** the **** out of evil Lita.

[Sabretooth]

yeah.she's a hot mother****er as a heel. soooo sexy......*blows load*

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm really gonna like Cena being on Raw because he can be more vulgar and whatnot (like his raps and "five second salute" tonight). Either BAtista or HHH will get drafted to SD, and I'm guessing whoever gets drafted is gonna win the title at Vengeance, therefore taking that belt and replacing Cena.

I'm not watching RAW at the moment, but if Ego H moves to Smackdown then I'll watch Raw again.

I never watch Smackdown anyways, so I'll totally watch Raw again if Ego H is sent to Smackdown. Hopefully him and JBL can have a feud. :o

They definitely need to get Cena off of Raw and just let Ego H win at the PPV, then send him to Smackdown, so we won't have to be bothered with him anymore and we can watch Raw happily ever after.

Send Angle, Booker T, Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, London, Kidman, Big Show, and Charlie Haas to Raw.

Send Ego H to Smackdown so he can feud with JBL, Undertaker, and all the other hosses that Vince has a kinky fetish with.

[Sabretooth]

Dudley Boys *****!:mad:

[Donnie Darko]

huh?

[Sabretooth]

huh?
Dudleys showed up :o

[U.S War Machine]

yep i just saw it slammed snitsky through a table.

[Donnie Darko]

Dudleys showed up :o

yeah, sorry, I was just trying to figure out what the ***** was, or if it was a good or bad exclamation

[Sabretooth]

yeah, sorry, I was just trying to figure out what the ***** was, or if it was a good or bad exclamation
***** =biatch.I wasn't directing it to anyone :o

[Donnie Darko]

ah, I see

damn it, I can't decide if I'm gonna get this ppv or not

[The Techno Bat]

The whole ECW thing is really dumb. After seeing what they have to offer what a waste, my advise would be for nobody to order this PPV because it is going to SUCK!

[The Ghoul]

The whole ECW thing is really dumb. After seeing what they have to offer what a waste, my advise would be for nobody to order this PPV because it is going to SUCK!

Blasphamy! Just be happy there is an ECW PPV. How is this any different than the invasion before Heatwave '97? Or better yet, the one AT Heatwave '97? Only difference is RVD isn't playing the Uncle Tom. I woke my parents up tonight becuase when that segmant happend I screamed Balls at the top of my lungs. I am ordering th PPV. I am buying the Ultimate ECW Collection DVD. I accept the fact ECW is dead & that WWE owns it's corpse. So, if I was to look back at ECW I have to make the sacrifice & look back at the WWE presents ECW. I don't like it, but it's the way things are; & as a die hard ECW fan I am willing to make that sacrifce.

[John Constantine]

The last bit of Raw with the ECW guys kicking the asses of some of the WWE guys was pretty cool....but it kinda pales in comparison to when ECW first attacked the WWF during the Invasion angle. Sure, the Invasion angle sucked, but that one moment where Tommy Dreamer and RVD came out and beat up Kane and Jericho, then the former ECW wrestlers came out to "help" Jericho/Kane was one of the coolest moments on tv :up:

[John Constantine]

Yeah.Memories of Cena from like 2 years ago flowed back to me tonight.I really hope Cena stays on Raw.Only problem is him and HHH supposedly hate each other.I hope Cena doesn't get drafted back,though I'm sure it's gonna happen :(

With the announcement that the HITC match still goes on despite the draft, I'm thinking Triple H will end up winning the heavyweight title and move to Smackdown. At least that way, the original WWE titles are all in one show (Raw), while the WCW titles are all on Smackdown.

[punishermax]

They would never send a wrestler the caliber of HHH to a sinking ship such as Smackdown, Cena may be popular but hes nowhere near as big of a draw as HHH, many people may not like HHH because he has made himself champ so many times but when he says he put asses in the seats, its the truth, also I'd rather have HHH be champ than Batista, because at least HHH can carry a match where as Batista needs someone to carry him.

[angelus777]

what??? is this CENA thing real? he better not get drafted back to SD, i mean I don't really like Cena, but is awesome that they stir up things this much, and at least we can have a Christian feud and both stay on RAW.

[3dman27]

I know that there's the whole Edge/Lita thing but Lita should be with the ECW crew. Imagine if they played up how slutty Lita was and she tells Edge that he wasn't Extreme enough and she leaves with Sandman. That won't happen but I'd like to see it. I'd love to see Sandman cane the living hell out of Bradshaw on the 12th. Is Sabu confirmed for the show? I don't want to get my hopes to high for tonights Raw because I'll know I'll be setting myself up for disappointment, and it'll be something like Mark Jindrak on Raw
didn'tlita once wrestle as miss congeniality in ecw or was that someone else?

[Bad Superman]

Last night's RAW:

The Good: Cena and the possibilities of other wrestlers such as Christian go to the main event level. And of course, ECW ECW ECW!!!!!!!!

The Bad: Ego H of course. He used to be one of my favorite wrestlers but now he stinks because of his overexposure and politics. He can "win" the belt 32 times (twice as Flair), but IMO he'll never reach the level of Austin, Hogan, Flair, The Rock, etc. He and only he is the reason younger and deserving talent haven't been able to develop and reach main event status **cough** Orton, Jericho, Edge, Benoit, Batista**cough**.

The Ugly: Chris Masters (useless), The Coach (useless and stupid) and the Diva Search Contest 2 (useless, stupid and did I say useless???).

[kane9321]

cena..on raw..wow
chris masters is a waste of space

[DOG LIPS]

I think wrasslin' was at it's best back in the 'gang' days. DX, Los Borricuas, NOD, MOD, and all the others groups. I miss Doink and Tatankka. :(

I hope Cena is Raw for good, simply because a switch-back would be a moronic twist. I rarely ever watch SD, so they need to add some big names from Raw to it to save it, however, for a big name to be switched from Raw to SD is like being sent from Coca-Cola to H-E-B brand cola. :(

[kane9321]

hey dog ..i never thought of that......switchback...monday hes on raw then poof hes back on smackdown thursday..lol

[Sabretooth]

The only way they could keep Cena on Raw for good is if a huge star were to be drafted to SD.I really hope Cena stays,now he's not held down as much.On UPN,there's no way he could've done the middle finger. But something tells me crazy SD! fanboys are gonna go nuts without him because they won't have anybody to kiss their ass.:(

[DOG LIPS]

Maybe they will go for the big shock and draft Batista to SD this Thurs.

... Or they will draft Coach and everyone will be sad. :p

[Lobo]

didn'tlita once wrestle as miss congeniality in ecw or was that someone else?


Yes Lita was Miss Congeniality that's why I said she should be with the ECW crew

[Lobo]

I think HBK is going to be drafted to Smackdown at some point during the draft. This thursday with Cena on Raw they better bring out somebaody good. I just hope that by the end of the draft Christian and Cena are on the same show.

[Sabretooth]

Maybe they will go for the big shock and draft Batista to SD this Thurs.

... Or they will draft Coach and everyone will be sad. :p
I hope they don't waste their time trying to get HHH over there.Remember last year?He switched back to Raw before that Thursday :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

I think HBK is going to be drafted to Smackdown at some point during the draft. This thursday with Cena on Raw they better bring out somebaody good. I just hope that by the end of the draft Christian and Cena are on the same show.
I heard they were going to originally have HBK go to SD! and become heel,and then feud with Cena for the title.He didn't agree to it because HBK doesn't want to turn heel ( I think he doesn't want his kid seeing him as a heel) so they ditched it.But I do hope he goes to SD! and maybe continue his feud with Angle.

I sorta want Undertaker to Raw and Kane to SD!.Kane really needs to leave Raw ASAP.At least on SD! he would have a better shot at winning the championship.'Taker needs to go to Raw because there's no one on SD! that he hasn't wrestled with before.

[Donnie Darko]

I hate the way they're doing the draft. I thought the first draft was by far the best, with each "owner" picking 10 people that night on Raw.

[DOG LIPS]

Cena to Raw made an impact on the whole show it seemed, so SD will have to have someone that will have a huge impact also, HBK is great and all, but I don't think he would be that big of a deal. It's cool that they started up this ECW war crap at the same time as the draft, but it's kind of distracting. Will it be one guy per show per week? That's not many wrasslers in a month.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah,but this way at least they're not picked randomly

[White_Howling]

its either triple H or batista is going to raw... one of thems gonna the belt..

we can't have two champs on the same show right? we all know how that worked out last time.. i rather have triple H leaving. and see DAVE go against cena.. triple H and cena fued would just be too annoying

[Jason Blood]

I don't understand Cena being drafted

all of this talk about drafting Kurt is happening because RAW needs a strong heel main-eventer on HHH's level *cough*Kurt*cough*

I've gotten word that CM Punk has gotten on HHH's good side and will be signed by the WWE

I expect that Batista will be drafted to Smackdown after keeping his title

there was talk a while ago about trading the two anyway

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I like Cena on RAW....it lets him be a lot more "edgier" than he can on regular network TV. I don't think Cena's going to stay though, honestly I think they drafted him just to prove the whole "no one's safe" thing they had been hyping and by the end he'll be traded back to Smackdown. I think it would be great for him to stay on RAW because of all the potential feuds he could have...Christian, Jericho, HBK..etc.

I think HHH going to Smackdown would be GREAT because it would get rid of him always having the world title, feuding with the same people....blah blah blah.

[LastSunrise1981]

Cena to Raw made an impact on the whole show it seemed, so SD will have to have someone that will have a huge impact also, HBK is great and all, but I don't think he would be that big of a deal. It's cool that they started up this ECW war crap at the same time as the draft, but it's kind of distracting. Will it be one guy per show per week? That's not many wrasslers in a month.

Then they better move Ego H to Smackdown. Because if Cena remains on Raw, he can rest assure his belt isn't safe from Ego H.

[The Ghoul]

I think HHH going to Smackdown would be GREAT because it would get rid of him always having the world title, feuding with the same people....blah blah blah.

No it won't he will just do the same on SD! He will show up win the title & JBL will be reduced to nothing more as Orlando Jordan's tag team partner.

[LastSunrise1981]

No it won't he will just do the same on SD! He will show up win the title & JBL will be reduced to nothing more as Orlando Jordan's tag team partner.

I doubt it. Because JBL has some stroke too, and Vince likes him as well, so HHH is smart enough not to pull that kind of crap with JBL.

He needs to be moved to Smackdown so he can be humbled. JBL and Kurt Angle aren't going to put up with his crap, and he knows it too.

[Pink Ranger]

I doubt it. Because JBL has some stroke too, and Vince likes him as well, so HHH is smart enough not to pull that kind of crap with JBL.

He needs to be moved to Smackdown so he can be humbled. JBL and Kurt Angle aren't going to put up with his crap, and he knows it too.

And Undertaker won't get pushed around either. I guess it's no accident that the older guys with the most political clout are on Smackdown, away from HHH.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

No it won't he will just do the same on SD! He will show up win the title & JBL will be reduced to nothing more as Orlando Jordan's tag team partner.

I don't see a downside here...

[3dman27]

I doubt it. Because JBL has some stroke too, and Vince likes him as well, so HHH is smart enough not to pull that kind of crap with JBL.

He needs to be moved to Smackdown so he can be humbled. JBL and Kurt Angle aren't going to put up with his crap, and he knows it too.
thats what ego h deserves

[Sabretooth]

I say have HHH win the World Heavyweight Championship,then get drafted to SD! so that Raw now has the WWE championship,and either have Batista and Cena feud,or better yet,start pushing the future main eventers such as Shelton,Christian,Edge,etc.

Hmmm,but I wonder who else would go to SD!,HHH can't feud with JBL,Kurt,and Undertaker forever.

[John Constantine]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that instead of Triple H winning the title and going to SD, it'll just be Batista. SD kinda needs a face main-eventer now that Cena is on Raw and Guerrero is a heel, plus Batista still has issues with JBL, so an instant feud could be set up right away between the two. If Angle ends up staying on SD as well, those two can feud. Plus, Batista can also fight guys like Matt Morgan, Carlito, and the Big Show.

In other words: Triple H is staying put.

[Jason Blood]

Holy crap!

Terry Funk was in an episode of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction (I'm watching it right now)

[John Constantine]

He was also in the movie Roadhouse.


And refuses to take part in ECW One Night Stand.....

[Twitch]

He was also in the movie Roadhouse.


And refuses to take part in ECW One Night Stand.....

Is he doing the Shane Douglas one?

[John Constantine]

Yeah, most likely.


And with Raven "suspended" (as it seems to have been indicated on the TNA website), could a brief show-up at One NIght Stand occur?

:o

[Omega Red]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that instead of Triple H winning the title and going to SD, it'll just be Batista. SD kinda needs a face main-eventer now that Cena is on Raw and Guerrero is a heel, plus Batista still has issues with JBL, so an instant feud could be set up right away between the two. If Angle ends up staying on SD as well, those two can feud. Plus, Batista can also fight guys like Matt Morgan, Carlito, and the Big Show.

In other words: Triple H is staying put.


I think they are only going to switch champions around to the other show. I think those are the only people getting drafted. They proved that with moving John Cena

[John Constantine]

They only really moved Cena to Raw because they wanted to start the draft off with a bang and prove that anybody can be drafted, unlike last year, which was pretty uneventful. But Cena is a good fit for Raw. I think yesterday was probably the first time in a while that I could actually stand his character.

I expect the next few drafts to be rather minor....but hey, I could be wrong and they could pull a big move on Smackdown this week as well.

[Twitch]

Yeah, most likely.


And with Raven "suspended" (as it seems to have been indicated on the TNA website), could a brief show-up at One NIght Stand occur?

:o

proably not, but I would like to see one of his matches

[Donnie Darko]

I think it probably would've been a good idea to make champions exempt, but we'll see. I like the idea of Cena on Raw.

By the way, how/when did JBL get his political stroke in the WWE? I mean, I noticed it when they fired Ron Simmons and then JBL got a push to the top, but I never really knew why. I mean, I really like the JBL character, I was just wondering.

[John Constantine]

I dunno, never say never. I mean, Joey Styles wasn't going to be the commentator for the PPV, but WWE got him to sign. A very brief appearance by Raven, like say him coming out of the crowd and even-flowing Sandman or Dreamer or a WWE invader, could happen.....

[Twitch]

They only really moved Cena to Raw because they wanted to start the draft off with a bang and prove that anybody can be drafted, unlike last year, which was pretty uneventful. But Cena is a good fit for Raw. I think yesterday was probably the first time in a while that I could actually stand his character.

I expect the next few drafts to be rather minor....but hey, I could be wrong and they could pull a big move on Smackdown this week as well.

Cena could be a more agressive face with rapping (hardcore) he could have done that at Smackdown but UPN made them tone it down.

[John Constantine]

I think it probably would've been a good idea to make champions exempt, but we'll see. I like the idea of Cena on Raw.

By the way, how/when did JBL get his political stroke in the WWE? I mean, I noticed it when they fired Ron Simmons and then JBL got a push to the top, but I never really knew why. I mean, I really like the JBL character, I was just wondering.

As far as I know, JBL was always like that. It has a lot to do with seniority, I think. He's been in the WWE for like 10 years by now. The only wrestlers right now who have probably been around longer are Undertaker, Triple H (HBK I'm not really counting because he was retired for a few years), and Hardcore Holly. It's probably why JBL and Holly are seen as the bullies in the locker room as well. They feel because they've been around for the longest, they have the most say....

[John Constantine]

Cena could be a more agressive face with rapping (hardcore) he could have done that at Smackdown but UPN made them tone it down.

That's why him going to Raw is a good move. Not only does it give him a chance to fight newer opponents - Christian, Edge, or even a heel Jericho, but he can probably go more full-out on Raw than Smackdown. I mean, I literally laughed my ass off at his five second pose :up:

[Twitch]

As far as I know, JBL was always like that. It has a lot to do with seniority, I think. He's been in the WWE for like 10 years by now. The only wrestlers right now who have probably been around longer are Undertaker, Triple H (HBK I'm not really counting because he was retired for a few years), and Hardcore Holly. It's probably why JBL and Holly are seen as the bullies in the locker room as well. They feel because they've been around for the longest, they have the most say....

Speaking of JBL when he feunded with Taker did they ever mention or make a refrence that he was once in the Minstry with Farrog (sp)?

[Jason Blood]

Holy crap

I just remembered

Batista has a new theme!

it still has some parts like the original

[Twitch]

That's why him going to Raw is a good move. Not only does it give him a chance to fight newer opponents - Christian, Edge, or even a heel Jericho, but he can probably go more full-out on Raw than Smackdown. I mean, I literally laughed my ass off at his five second pose :up:

Yeah that was great, but I really want to see is Christian as champion. :D

[Twitch]

Holy crap

I just remembered

Batista has a new theme!

it still has some parts like the original

His original was kickass..... the current one sucks :o

[John Constantine]

Speaking of JBL when he feunded with Taker did they ever mention or make a refrence that he was once in the Minstry with Farrog (sp)?

Probably not. Continuity doesn't seem to figure much with the WWE...

[John Constantine]

Holy crap

I just remembered

Batista has a new theme!

it still has some parts like the original

I don't really like it much. His original suited him so much.

Why must they change a wrestler's theme music so much? First John Cena changes his, then Batista.....I swear, if they change Christian's....:mad: :(

[Jason Blood]

they already changed Christian's

his Captain Charisma music was passed on to Tomko

his current music is pretty good though

[Twitch]

Probably not. Continuity doesn't seem to figure much with the WWE...

Bradshaw was badass with the ministry sort of like Sniskey (only better) and then they turned him into a wimpy ass gentlemen

[John Constantine]

they already changed Christian's

his Captain Charisma music was passed on to Tomko

his current music is pretty good though

I mean, change it from the one he currently has. Probably one of the cooler themes nowadays. Just totally love his entrance :up:

[Donnie Darko]

Probably not. Continuity doesn't seem to figure much with the WWE...

Hey, Cena (who was more entertaining on the mic last night than he has been in God knows how long) called out Christian for his old Brood days. That was awesome and a good continuity reference.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, that was a nice touch there.

All that was missing was an appearance by Gangrel....:(

[Twitch]

didn't he show up when JBL hired the ministry to take Taker out a couple months ago?

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but that was a one-time only appearance. I think he's training in OVW for a full-on return.

And I'm glad for that, he was a pretty interesting character for the most part...

[Jason Blood]

Cena can't mention the Hardy Boyz

if Matt were still around he would mention them being beaten up by *insert Hardy Boyz insult here*

[3dman27]

did he?

[PyroChamber]

So, are they just gonna be picking one person each week until the draft is done with?

[Donnie Darko]

and are there really only 5 draft picks for each show? that pretty much sucks, considering they're bound to pick some of the people that are already on their show

[The Ghoul]

Is he doing the Shane Douglas one?

I heard he is & that his match will be against Sabu & Shane Douglas in a 3 way dance.

[Twitch]

I heard he is & that his match will be against Sabu& Shane Doyglas in a 3 way dance.


NICE!!!!!!!!

[The Ghoul]

Cena can't mention the Hardy Boyz

if Matt were still around he would mention them being beaten up by *insert Hardy Boyz insult here*

Not necessarily. I remember when Jericho debuted 6 years ago & interupted The Rock. The Rock said something along the lines of "... Your greatest accomplishment was beating someone named... Juventud?!"

[John Constantine]

Well I just looked at the Smackdown spoilers, and it looks like the first draft pick for SD is:






Chris Benoit :up:


It's an interesting move might I say.....

[PyroChamber]

Well I just looked at the Smackdown spoilers, and it looks like the first draft pick for SD is:






Chris Benoit :up:


It's an interesting move might I say.....Well, I guess it's back to Smackdown for Benoit.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

He lasted 2 years on RAW right?

Man I really hope they keep Cena on RAW.

[Bad Superman]

Well, I guess it's back to Smackdown for Benoit.

I hope he wins the WWE title. . . Oh. . . that's right, they don't have the WWE title. :D

I think Teddy Long will ask Cena to hand over the title. I don't think Smackdown will be without a main champion.

[Lobo]

Cena is a good fit for Raw. Now that Smackdown has Benoit the next pics should be HHH, and HBK

[Sabretooth]

I'm glad he's back on SD! because after he won the title on Raw he was just wasted.

[kane9321]

i want to look at the spoiler soo bad...but i will not..lol

[John Constantine]

I hope he wins the WWE title. . . Oh. . . that's right, they don't have the WWE title. :D

I think Teddy Long will ask Cena to hand over the title. I don't think Smackdown will be without a main champion.

I'm hoping they just move the World Championship title to Smackdown. That way all the WCW titles could just be on one show :up:

[Bad Superman]

I'm hoping they just move the World Championship title to Smackdown. That way all the WCW titles could just be on one show :up:

Whoa. . . didn't think of it that way. Maybe they're planning a comeback for WCW now that ECW is on the map again?????