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Bad Superman
06-14-2005, 10:59 AM
I hear you on this one. I miss the old NWA/WCW and AWA had some good moments too.

Those were the glory days of wrestling. BTW I'm buying the WWE DVD The Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80's. If WWE would be smart enough to transfer to DVD the old NWA and WWF PPV's along with some AWA stuff.

kane9321
06-14-2005, 11:03 AM
You don't like Carlito? That's not cool


sorry lobo,I just cant stand him,I just cant! Maybe the whole "spitting an apple in your opponets face" gets to me.Just dont like him

Lobo
06-14-2005, 11:05 AM
Don't be sorry dude I'm just joking around. I do find Carlito entertaining though.

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 11:08 AM
Don't be sorry dude I'm just joking around. I do find Carlito entertaining though.

He's like Smackdown's Christian

he's got such good mike skills people will cheer for him

Lobo
06-14-2005, 11:14 AM
He's like Smackdown's Christian

he's got such good mike skills people will cheer for him


He's good but Christian is Captain Charisma :D

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 11:44 AM
HHH really does need to go to SD! Raw is getting all of SD! star power.I really wonder where they're going with this.HHH may help,but they still need a few more people.

I imagine there's gonna be some brawls between HHH and JBL since they both have backstage power and probably won't put each other over.:D

Donnie Darko
06-14-2005, 11:45 AM
Now that Cena is on Raw, I like him so much more, like I did back before he started the whole Chain Gang thing. I love Jericho and Christian. Although I know I won't buy the ppv, I really don't know 100% who to pull for. I like Cena. I want Jericho back in the title scene. And Christian... I mean, come on... he's the man.

Donnie Darko
06-14-2005, 11:47 AM
HHH really does need to go to SD! Raw is getting all of SD! star power.I really wonder where they're going with this.HHH may help,but they still need a few more people.

I imagine there's gonna be some brawls between HHH and JBL since they both have backstage power and probably won't put each other over.:D

I would love to see Bradshaw bust him open.

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 11:53 AM
Smackdown's top face is Benoit

Smackdown need's a face now that Cena is gone

Lobo
06-14-2005, 11:54 AM
Maybe Kane will end up on SD

Bad Superman
06-14-2005, 12:47 PM
Now that Cena is on Raw, I like him so much more, like I did back before he started the whole Chain Gang thing. I love Jericho and Christian. Although I know I won't buy the ppv, I really don't know 100% who to pull for. I like Cena. I want Jericho back in the title scene. And Christian... I mean, come on... he's the man.

All three are great performers. I think Cena will retain but this match will only be the first of a very long series between the three. If Ego H is drafted to Smackdown, RAW could have a Renaissance period.

I would love to see Bradshaw bust him open.

Absolutely!! It's the least he (Ego H) deserves for destroying wrestling. If he read Ric Flair's book, he would've learned a thing or two how to be a true team player and a great champion. It's evident he hasn't learned a thing from the Nature Boy. He's only ripped off bits and pieces of the image and one of Flair's best quotes: "There's only one diamond in the business and you're looking at it".

Smackdown's top face is Benoit

Smackdown need's a face now that Cena is gone

Benoit should be the top face AND champion on Smackdown.

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 12:55 PM
Maybe Kane will end up on SD
I'd love that.Maybe have him win the title and becomes the next Brock.

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 02:07 PM
Benoit should be the top face AND champion on Smackdown.

Too Bad

I'd love that.Maybe have him win the title and becomes the next Brock.

Too Bad

Bad Superman
06-14-2005, 02:36 PM
Too Bad



Too Bad

Lay off the JD for a while. . . . :rolleyes:

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 02:46 PM
Lay off the JD for a while. . . . :rolleyes:

huh?

LastSunrise1981
06-14-2005, 03:03 PM
huh?

Jack Daniels.

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Jack Daniels.

Really?

I still don't get what that's supposed to mean?

are you saying I'm being abusive, or you think I'm wrong

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:04 PM
HHH really does need to go to SD! Raw is getting all of SD! star power.I really wonder where they're going with this.HHH may help,but they still need a few more people.

I imagine there's gonna be some brawls between HHH and JBL since they both have backstage power and probably won't put each other over.:D

Oh, I'm sure in a battle like that, Triple H will go over JBL. And to be honest, I'd like to see someone like JBL or Holly be put in their place for once.

Like I said earlier, I may not like Triple H hogging the spotlight all the time, but at least he doesn't (at least I don't think he does :confused: ) bully younger wrestlers like JBL and Holly seem to do.....

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:06 PM
Smackdown's top face is Benoit

Smackdown need's a face now that Cena is gone

I always thought that Benoit was drafted to SD to replace Cena. And it's a pretty good replacement actually...

I just think that now SD needs a kickass heel performer to replace Angle leaving the show....

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 04:12 PM
Batista is going to be drafted to Smackdown (I don't know when) simply because he got a pop on the level of Cena's

The Techno Bat
06-14-2005, 04:14 PM
I always thought that Benoit was drafted to SD to replace Cena. And it's a pretty good replacement actually...

I just think that now SD needs a kickass heel performer to replace Angle leaving the show....

If the wwe is going to keep around some of the ECW guys perhaps they can have RVD go back to his heel ways, and keep Bill Alfonso around and perhaps SABU!

Or have Taz drop some weight, get back in shape and become the FTW Taz of old!

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:14 PM
Yeah, but then who replaces Angle as the number 1 (or 2) heel on the show?

Benoit turning heel maybe?

I hope that isn't the case because I want to see him feud with Guerrero and JBL....

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:15 PM
If the wwe is going to keep around some of the ECW guys perhaps they can have RVD go back to his heel ways, and keep Bill Alfonso around and perhaps SABU!

I heard Sabu can barely walk these days....I was actually a bit surprised that he wrestled at ONS. :confused:

RVD maybe, but he might have the Jericho stigma. He'll be loved by the fans no matter what....

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 04:17 PM
Oh, I'm sure in a battle like that, Triple H will go over JBL. And to be honest, I'd like to see someone like JBL or Holly be put in their place for once.

Like I said earlier, I may not like Triple H hogging the spotlight all the time, but at least he doesn't (at least I don't think he does :confused: ) bully younger wrestlers like JBL and Holly seem to do.....
Well,Billy Gunn said in an interview that HHH will say that you're a great wrestler even if you're not,and then goes and rats on you to Vince.


But,other than that,he seems to be a nice guy backstage.Nothing like his character.

The Techno Bat
06-14-2005, 04:18 PM
I heard Sabu can barely walk these days....I was actually a bit surprised that he wrestled at ONS. :confused:

RVD maybe, but he might have the Jericho stigma. He'll be loved by the fans no matter what....

That is true, no matter what Jericho does he can't shake the fan support. Even what he did to Cena won't change the fans view of him, Jericho will always be a fan favorite, no matter what.

Hmmm who to use as a top heel on Smackdown, other than JBL. Maybe they SD could draft Kane and revise his career over there

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 04:20 PM
I heard Sabu can barely walk these days....I was actually a bit surprised that he wrestled at ONS. :confused:

RVD maybe, but he might have the Jericho stigma. He'll be loved by the fans no matter what....
RVD's a good wrestler and all,but I don't see him as the next big heel like Angle.He rarely gets on the mic,and I just don't see ''The Next Angle'' in him.

HHH might work,but I'm afraid Smackdown will be just like Raw if he goes there.Though Undertaker,Holly,and JBL may not put up with it,which is why I don't think he'll go to SD!

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 04:21 PM
That is true, no matter what Jericho does he can't shake the fan support. Even what he did to Cena won't change the fans view of him, Jericho will always be a fan favorite, no matter what.

Hmmm who to use as a top heel on Smackdown, other than JBL. Maybe they SD could draft Kane and revise his career over there
How I'd love for Kane to go to SD! get him out of this crappy ass feud ASAP!!!!!

The Techno Bat
06-14-2005, 04:22 PM
Since TNA doesn't have a tv deal anymore, perhaps the WWE could go after a guy like Abyss...

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:22 PM
Well,Billy Gunn said in an interview that HHH will say that you're a great wrestler even if you're not,and then goes and rats on you to Vince.


But,other than that,he seems to be a nice guy backstage.Nothing like his character.

Yeah, but he doesn't go out works stiff on Renee Dupree or beat up a Tough ENough kid out of nowhere. Or decide to focus on beating up and opening up stitches on a wrestler just because said wrestler said some stuff about him on the internet.

I at least have to give Triple H props for not acting like a total ******* like the other two wrestlers...

The Techno Bat
06-14-2005, 04:22 PM
How I'd love for Kane to go to SD! get him out of this crappy ass feud ASAP!!!!!

Agreed I HATE Edge.

Edge=Ratings Loss

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:23 PM
That is true, no matter what Jericho does he can't shake the fan support. Even what he did to Cena won't change the fans view of him, Jericho will always be a fan favorite, no matter what.

Hmmm who to use as a top heel on Smackdown, other than JBL. Maybe they SD could draft Kane and revise his career over there

That's why I say Triple H might make the move to the show. They've done things that practically make it easy for him to be the number one focus on the show.

Plus, if Batista stays on Raw, they means he can get into significant feuds with Kurt Angle and Edge :up:

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:24 PM
Since TNA doesn't have a tv deal anymore, perhaps the WWE could go after a guy like Abyss...

I think Abyss just signed a new contract with TNA.


Raven's contract is up soon though......:o

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 04:27 PM
How I'd love for Kane to go to SD! get him out of this crappy ass feud ASAP!!!!!

but it's the fued that changes him back to the Monster

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 04:28 PM
Yeah, but he doesn't go out works stiff on Renee Dupree or beat up a Tough ENough kid out of nowhere. Or decide to focus on beating up and opening up stitches on a wrestler just because said wrestler said some stuff about him on the internet.

I at least have to give Triple H props for not acting like a total ******* like the other two wrestlers...
Yeah,for a guy who could probably get away with that sorta stuff,he doesn't act like a total bastard.And as much as I rag on him,I should really be grateful that he jobbed at Wrestlemania twice and does put people over every now and then.

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 04:30 PM
but it's the fued that changes him back to the Monster
How is he turning back into a monster in this feud when he's always sniffling and crying when he gets in the ring and listens to Edge and Lita?:confused:

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 04:32 PM
How is he turning back into a monster in this feud when he's always sniffling and crying when he gets in the ring and listens to Edge and Lita?:confused:

didn't he snap on Sylvain?

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 04:33 PM
He's eventually gonna go insane, and maybe go back to the masked Kane of old. With his old theme music I hope :up:

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 04:39 PM
Haha I was about to post he should go back to his old music as well as the mask.I'd also like him to play mind games with his opponents like in the movie Saw.

I can really see him as a top heel on Smackdown :up:

LastSunrise1981
06-14-2005, 05:47 PM
I always thought that Benoit was drafted to SD to replace Cena. And it's a pretty good replacement actually...

I just think that now SD needs a kickass heel performer to replace Angle leaving the show....

You know what? I haven't watched WWE for the last two weeks straight, I don't intend on viewing it until it changes its product.

As far as Raw and Smackdown is concerned, there's really a no win situation for them. If Ego H stay's on Raw then he'll bury Cena, send Cena to mid-card Hell along with Christian and Jericho. Then he'll continue feuding with Randy Orton or Kurt Angle.

If Ego H goes to Smackdown along with Benoit, then Benoit won't have a chance against him either and won't win the belt. Why? Because Ego H says so and so does Stephanie. Either way the WWE is screwed and I don't want to see Ego H anymore, quite frankly, I feel I've seen him enough and it's gotten pretty old.

Go Web Go!
06-14-2005, 05:50 PM
it WOULD be nice to see steph again

There was a part of me that was expecting her to be last nights draft pick. Would have been interesting, but we're definitely better off with Angle.

Batista is going to be drafted to Smackdown (I don't know when) simply because he got a pop on the level of Cena's

I could see that happening. He can then start a feud with JBL seeing how they had a little something going on prior to Batista making his decision to stay on RAW.

Donnie Darko
06-14-2005, 06:04 PM
Ya know what I would love? I would love to go to a Raw show with a bunch of people, all on the front row, and whenever Triple-H is doing one of his long, self-indulgent promos, turn out backs to the ring, as a sign that we don't want to see this. Then maybe others would start doing it. I just think it would be a perfect display of how all the fans feel about Triple-H at this point. Hmmm... maybe some Canadians could do it and get the ball rolling.

The Techno Bat
06-14-2005, 06:55 PM
didn't he snap on Sylvain?

He sure did. Kane hit three chokeslams on him before making the pin!

The Techno Bat
06-14-2005, 06:56 PM
Ya know what I would love? I would love to go to a Raw show with a bunch of people, all on the front row, and whenever Triple-H is doing one of his long, self-indulgent promos, turn out backs to the ring, as a sign that we don't want to see this. Then maybe others would start doing it. I just think it would be a perfect display of how all the fans feel about Triple-H at this point. Hmmm... maybe some Canadians could do it and get the ball rolling.

I would love to see something like that...when RAW comes around to Boston again I am going with a few of my friends and will try to do just that

3dman27
06-14-2005, 07:02 PM
Ya know what I would love? I would love to go to a Raw show with a bunch of people, all on the front row, and whenever Triple-H is doing one of his long, self-indulgent promos, turn out backs to the ring, as a sign that we don't want to see this. Then maybe others would start doing it. I just think it would be a perfect display of how all the fans feel about Triple-H at this point. Hmmm... maybe some Canadians could do it and get the ball rolling.
this sounds like a good idea

punishermax
06-14-2005, 08:28 PM
Ya know what I would love? I would love to go to a Raw show with a bunch of people, all on the front row, and whenever Triple-H is doing one of his long, self-indulgent promos, turn out backs to the ring, as a sign that we don't want to see this. Then maybe others would start doing it. I just think it would be a perfect display of how all the fans feel about Triple-H at this point. Hmmm... maybe some Canadians could do it and get the ball rolling.

Not all the fans feel that way, I know my friends and I (most of them) are HHH marks, I have been since he became the "Game", you need wrestlers who are able to carry other wrestlers to make them look good, HHH is one of the the carriers, as is Jericho and HBK and a few others.

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 09:48 PM
anyone heard anything about the draft pick?

Donnie Darko
06-14-2005, 09:55 PM
OMG!!! Smackdown picked Chris Masters!!













I kid, I kid

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 09:57 PM
OMG!!! Smackdown picked Chris Masters!!













I kid, I kid

I would have been sooo pissed

you would think someone in the building has a damn cellular phone and can call someone not at the event

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 10:01 PM
OMG!!! Smackdown picked Chris Masters!!

I kid, I kid

Or are you? ;)


:o

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 10:19 PM
Man, these comments by Joey Styles on ONS and HH are pretty interesting...


* Jerry Lynn had not wrestled in 10 months and was the best worker on the show...TNA should get a clue and make money with him. He is better than Daniels and Styles.

* Raven looks more like a star in his ECW gimmick. TNA should get a clue and make him dress that way and then but the belt on him.

* Everyone at WWE was very polite and professional. I was expecting to get hazed and as such, did not bring a bag that could have been crapped in while I called matches.

* I must have been dreaming that Vince McMahon WWE spent a small fortune to completely and accurately re-create ECW.

* Did I actually sign a WWE contract? I must have. A pig just flew by my 16th floor office window and hell just called to thank me for the snow.

* Francine still has huge boobs and her butt looks better.

* Shane Douglas has not but it only makes being his friend more fun. I wouldn't want to be his enemy.

* Vince McMahon didn't punch me in the mouth...yet :)

* Shane McMahon looks like his Dad. He didn't punch me in the mouth yet either.

* When do I get to meet Stephanie?

* Can someone please tell me what the hell Meanie said about JBL to prompt a beating like that?




I especially loved that one comment about Raven. It would totally kick ass if Raven did sign with the WWE again. And go back to his old grunge gimmick. He could be like the number 1 heel on Smackdown.

Hey, I can dream can't I? :(

Jason Blood
06-14-2005, 10:34 PM
Orton Drafted & Undertaker returned

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 10:36 PM
Are you serious? :confused:

Donnie Darko
06-14-2005, 10:44 PM
sounds pretty solid

John Constantine
06-14-2005, 10:47 PM
Well it seems like the draft picks this year are ones who are actually making an impact on the show. I mean it's been two weeks and the outlook for both shows has changed dramatically.

Sabretooth
06-14-2005, 11:50 PM
I sorta wanted Orton to stay on raw and feud with Cena.But if he continues his feud with Undertaker it should be good.:up:

Donnie Darko
06-15-2005, 12:10 AM
I'm just wondering why SD doesn't draft some champions.

Go Web Go!
06-15-2005, 12:39 AM
If that's really their pick then it should help the show. Orton's back on the show he originally debuted on.

punishermax
06-15-2005, 01:52 AM
If Orton still is a heel on Smackdown, it should be a good fit, if he turns face then it would just be completely retarded, seeing as how they just lost one of their biggest heels.

Lobo
06-15-2005, 09:34 AM
I'm just wondering why SD doesn't draft some champions.


Because it's supposed to be a draft LOTTERY their not just picking people they want. I like Orton on SD

I'd like the next 3 picks to be HBK, HHH, and Kane. Also it seems that WWE will be adding ECW talent to the SD house shows. And also Psycosis and SuperCrazy will both becoming to SD cruiserweight division soon.

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 02:07 PM
EVERYONE Watch Velocity to see WWE's three NEW CRUISERS!!!

Akio and Kidman (returning) vs. Psicosis (debuting) w/ mask and Super Crazy

Juventud Guerrera (debuting) w/o mask vs. Funaki.

John Constantine
06-15-2005, 02:44 PM
That might actually make Velocity a better show to watch this week than Smackdown :eek: :D

Lobo
06-15-2005, 02:44 PM
I forgot about the signing of Juvi glad he's back :D

John Constantine
06-15-2005, 02:50 PM
Hopefully he shows up on SD eventually :up:

Maybe teaming up with Eddie or Chavo Guerrero maybe? :)

Lobo
06-15-2005, 02:52 PM
SuperCrazy, Chavo, Rey, Psicosis,and Juventud the cruiserweights might make SD watchable again. I want to see Paul London vs SuperCrazy so bad right now.

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 02:55 PM
That might actually make Velocity a better show to watch this week than Smackdown :eek: :D

I heard the Taker Vs. JBL match lasted around 20 minutes

John Constantine
06-15-2005, 03:02 PM
SuperCrazy, Chavo, Rey, Psicosis,and Juventud the cruiserweights might make SD watchable again. I want to see Paul London vs SuperCrazy so bad right now.

Don't forget that they might sign Kid Kash to a contract as well. Plus, Frankie Kazarian is supposedly coming to the WWE as well.

There might be a ****load of CW matches in the future.....and remember, the CW title is like one of the only singles titles worth anything anymore....;)

John Constantine
06-15-2005, 03:02 PM
I heard the Taker Vs. JBL match lasted around 20 minutes

Oh god, that sounds a bit tedious....:(

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 03:06 PM
Oh god, that sounds a bit tedious....:(

I dunno

I don't like then ending for sure Orton helping JBL

Donnie Darko
06-15-2005, 07:23 PM
I actually love that ending. (I usually don't read SD spoilers, but I already have plans for Thursday night, so I know I'll miss it)

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 08:04 PM
Christian and Trish should get back together after she comes back

that way, Tyson will have a better role like he did before


I really think Tyson Tomko needs to be pushed as The Problem Solver a looot more

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 08:07 PM
Shelton has held the IC title for EIGHT MONTHS

Randy held it for SEVEN and would always talk about how great that was

Nobody even noticed that Shelton's held the title that long

Newlife
06-15-2005, 08:08 PM
Christian and Trish should get back together after she comes back

that way, Tyson will have a better role like he did before


I really think Tyson Tomko needs to be pushed as The Problem Solver a looot more


Tyson is so sloppy in the the ring though.

He just goes all over the place, then when someone goes to punch him, it just looks horrible.

Go Web Go!
06-15-2005, 08:08 PM
Tomko needs to be pushed out the door. He's useless. Christian is better off on his own. Tomko is RAW's Heidenreich minus the poetry. Big, but useless.

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 08:15 PM
I said pushed as The Problem Solver

not a wrestler

The Techno Bat
06-15-2005, 09:01 PM
Shelton has held the IC title for EIGHT MONTHS

Randy held it for SEVEN and would always talk about how great that was

Nobody even noticed that Shelton's held the title that long

and he is actually defending it week in and week out, something Orton didn't really do.

The Techno Bat
06-15-2005, 09:03 PM
I think that Wrestlemania should add a Legends Match to the show each year, for example next year they should have

Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat
Hulk Hogan vs Roddy Piper

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 09:10 PM
does anyone remember when Garrison Cade was supposed to do an HBK rip-off gimmick something like HB Cade

Sabretooth
06-15-2005, 09:49 PM
I heard a couple months ago he was supposed to debut in a few weeks,guess not.:confused: I really hated Cade.He sucked and had the dumbest finisher(s) ever.

Jason Blood
06-15-2005, 10:32 PM
I heard a couple months ago he was supposed to debut in a few weeks,guess not.:confused: I really hated Cade.He sucked and had the dumbest finisher(s) ever.

the dropkick & Powerbomb pin was sweet

his Elbow drop was lame

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 01:05 AM
does anyone remember when Garrison Cade was supposed to do an HBK rip-off gimmick something like HB Cade

Yeah, but he's been gone for like a year....and Cade was taught by Shawn, so maybe he felt disrespectful imitating him? :confused:

And I agree, he kinda sucked :up:

Donnie Darko
06-16-2005, 09:26 AM
I went a while without watching wrestling, so I guess I like completely missed Garrison Cade. Then I got Smackdown vs Raw, and I'm like "who the hell is this guy and where is the Hurricane?"

Bad Superman
06-16-2005, 11:11 AM
I went a while without watching wrestling, so I guess I like completely missed Garrison Cade. Then I got Smackdown vs Raw, and I'm like "who the hell is this guy and where is the Hurricane?"

Yeah. . . I didn't get SVR because of the incomplete roster.

I would love to see Muhammed Hassan as IC Champion.

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 11:22 AM
I'd like to see Daivari go to SD! and maybe help out the cruiserweight division.Though the chances of them drafting midcarders like him and Haas are very slim,considering they're drafting main eventers :(

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 01:50 PM
Hassan needs him as his manager

who else can scream words in some sort of Persian dialect (I've heard he really speaks Persian)

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 01:53 PM
I can't wait to get Day of Reckoning 2

the only thing that sucked about DOR was the story mode (I wish they would have taken the season mode from HCTP and changed the storylines)

Bad Superman
06-16-2005, 02:14 PM
I can't wait to get Day of Reckoning 2

the only thing that sucked about DOR was the story mode (I wish they would have taken the season mode from HCTP and changed the storylines)

I can't wait for Smackdown VS RAW 2. Hopefully, it'll have a better roster, ALL BELTS and improved CAB's.

Donnie Darko
06-16-2005, 02:20 PM
and a better season mode

Super Kal
06-16-2005, 02:24 PM
hopefully, Smackdown vs RAW 2 will be more like HCTP. That season mode made me feel like I was actually in the WWE. It aslo let me make characters that I could face in during season mode

Donnie Darko
06-16-2005, 02:37 PM
yeah, SvR is pretty weak in a lot of areas, but yeah, I still play it because I'm a loser.

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 02:43 PM
yeah, SvR is pretty weak in a lot of areas, but yeah, I still play it because I'm a loser.
I miss how good the moves were

I feel so bad that in HCTP I set one of my finishers to the Million Dollar Dream so I could win my title matches:(

Donnie Darko
06-16-2005, 03:14 PM
why do you feel bad? The Million Dollar Dream is a spectacular hold.

Bad Superman
06-16-2005, 03:21 PM
I still play HCTP. After reading all the things they took out in SVR, I held on to HCTP. Has anyone played with the Shark Codes for title matches?

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 03:51 PM
why do you feel bad? The Million Dollar Dream is a spectacular hold.

I abuse it to win title matches (to keep it)

I hit my opponent over the head with a chair a bunch of times and then slap it on to ensure the victory

I decided to change it because there were other finisher only moves I wanted to use


I also took Brock out of Season because he's too cheap

Donnie Darko
06-16-2005, 03:55 PM
I'm beginning to be worried about the next SvR. I hope it's better. And I hope it has the Hurricane this time




but back on the topic of actual wrestling... is Daniel Puter (Tough Enough winner) in OVW or what?

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 03:58 PM
He's either in OVW or in DSW

EDIT

He's in OVW

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 04:00 PM
here's perhaps the best wrestling website ever

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/wwe.html

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 04:01 PM
I'd like to see Daivari go to SD! and maybe help out the cruiserweight division.Though the chances of them drafting midcarders like him and Haas are very slim,considering they're drafting main eventers :(

I dunno, they'll probably draft a few midcarders now that they've made a few major additions to each roster. I mean, honestly, what other main eventers are there to draft now?

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 04:02 PM
I'm beginning to be worried about the next SvR. I hope it's better. And I hope it has the Hurricane this time




but back on the topic of actual wrestling... is Daniel Puter (Tough Enough winner) in OVW or what?

Yeah, he's in OVW and the WWE wants him to fight some UFC-style matches to get some more attention.

Although, there's not really a possibility that he might come back to the WWE since I heard his attitude wasn't that good....

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 04:03 PM
The WWE wants big names drafted for better ratings

they'll make trades for mid-carders

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 04:12 PM
Yeah, but eventually, they'll have to draft a Davari or a Haas. Which might still make for a better storyline as well....Can you imagine Hassan *****ing to Bischoff about being screwed, and Bischoff smirking and saying he doesn't have to worry about that anymore because the two are split up now. Or say Shelton Benjamin getting beat up by Hassan and Davari and Charlie Haas coming in for the save.

It's really the wait for who's drafted that'll get the better ratings, not really the wrestler per se IMO.....

0neDisturbedSOB
06-16-2005, 04:47 PM
I dunno, they'll probably draft a few midcarders now that they've made a few major additions to each roster. I mean, honestly, what other main eventers are there to draft now?

Undertaker
HHH
Batista
HBK
JBL
Big Show

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 04:49 PM
Yeah, maybe those six. But I dunno, I just want to see some midcarders get drafted as well. That way, it actually makes it feel more special if a main eventer moves shows......and it might actually make the draft look less fixed.

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 04:56 PM
Undertaker
HHH
Batista
HBK
JBL
Big Show
UT is probably going to stay on SD! and feud with Orton,HHH will only go to SD! if he has the heavyweight title,ditto with Batista,HBK is gonna feud with Angle,but the last two are possible.

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 04:57 PM
yeah, SvR is pretty weak in a lot of areas, but yeah, I still play it because I'm a loser.
Same.I really need to get some new games.:(

Donnie Darko
06-16-2005, 05:00 PM
I think two that are safe, or if one switches, the other will too...

Carlito and Jericho

we can do without the Highlight Reel and Carlito's Cabana

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 05:11 PM
Carlito is in a feud with Big Show (Show will be teaming with Akebono in Japan to face Carlito and MM)

Jericho was just added to the WWE title match and looks to be staying on Raw

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 05:17 PM
Kane to SD! DAMMIT! :mad:

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 05:19 PM
Kane to SD! DAMMIT! :mad:
after Vengeance

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 05:32 PM
Carlito is in a feud with Big Show (Show will be teaming with Akebono in Japan to face Carlito and MM)

Jericho was just added to the WWE title match and looks to be staying on Raw

Are you serious? Big Show and Akebono vs Carlito and Morgan? Poor Carlito...he's gonna get killed :(

Jericho could win the title from Cena though and move to SD right afterwards :o

And right after that, they might push Batista as an actual face champion instead of Triple H's next victim :o :)

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 05:51 PM
wow

this draft has brought up some excellent points of discussion

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:06 PM
I'm FINALLY getting the Basham's first theme (which rocked!):D

now all I need is Shelton's first RAW theme

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:14 PM
wow

this draft has brought up some excellent points of discussion

That's what it's supposed to do though...plus shake things up.

I'm actually glad they went with the whole month thing though. I just wished they'd make the choices more random.....

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:15 PM
I'm FINALLY getting the Basham's first theme (which rocked!):D

now all I need is Shelton's first RAW theme
What was their first theme?

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:15 PM
I'm FINALLY getting the Basham's first theme (which rocked!):D

now all I need is Shelton's first RAW theme

Is that the WGTT one? :confused:

Speaking of which, does anybody have Batista's new theme?

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:17 PM
The Basham's first theme was called "Toe Jam" and if anyone wants it I'll be on AIM

Shelton's first Raw theme was this production theme (remember when he first beat HHH)

I WISH I had Batista's new theme, as it is AWESOME!

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:18 PM
What was their first theme?
when they debuted and beat Kurt and Benoit enough times to break them up

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:18 PM
Is that the WGTT one? :confused:

Speaking of which, does anybody have Batista's new theme?
I'm pretty sure his new theme is by Saliva,but I don't think anyone has it yet.It's still kinda new....

While we're talking about themes,anybody have Kane's old one?

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:18 PM
I got a couple of them, but one of them is dreadfully short and the other has JR and the King talking. I know that it's a song by Saliva called Unleashed, but I can't find a full version yet :mad: :(

Yeah, I get quite a few wrestlers theme songs :o

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:20 PM
I'm pretty sure his new theme is by Saliva,but I don't think anyone has it yet.It's still kinda new....

While we're talking about themes,anybody have Kane's old one?

I hope his new theme song does show up in the latest WWE CD. If there is one to come out this year...:confused:

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:20 PM
I'm pretty sure his new theme is by Saliva,but I don't think anyone has it yet.It's still kinda new....

While we're talking about themes,anybody have Kane's old one?
I'm getting it right now;)

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:21 PM
As much as I dislike HHH,his music is so goddamn badass.I've got the one by Motorhead and another one that I think is by Drowning Pool.

Speaking of DP,I've also got ''Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'' Awesome song.:up:

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:23 PM
Speaking of Motorhead, Randy Orton should so go back to the old Evolution theme music when he comes back. That song kicks too much ass for it not to be used regularly.

That Drowning Pool song is okay, but it's a tad overplayed.....

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:24 PM
Speaking of Motorhead, Randy Orton should so go back to the old Evolution theme music when he comes back. That song kicks too much ass for it not to be used regularly.

That Drowning Pool song is okay, but it's a tad overplayed.....
Yeah.His theme nowadays sucks ass.Edge needs to go back to his old music too.

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:25 PM
Actually, I kinda like Edge's new theme music. That one grew on me a bit. It's also because I felt that Edge's old theme music was a bit too stale.


Christian's theme music is the best though :up: I actually play that on my winamp player a bit :up:

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:28 PM
Tazz's music is great

if you go to WWE.com and look at the profiles you can check out entrance videos (not the actual entrance but what they play on the tron)

Tomko's is pretty long and is great (since it was christian's music)

EDIT

I just found Shelton's theme :D:D:D

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:30 PM
Actually, I kinda like Edge's new theme music. That one grew on me a bit. It's also because I felt that Edge's old theme music was a bit too stale.


Christian's theme music is the best though :up: I actually play that on my winamp player a bit :up:
Edge's current music isn't bad,it's just that I really liked his old music.I tried to download his current music,but it never works.:(

I wish Undertaker would get a theme that wasn't so much like Graveyard Symphony. Haha,I think I have his ABA theme.:D

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:34 PM
I have his current theme music. And it's really grown on me. It's a much better song now that he's playing a real-life ******* character :) Plus, it's much better than that Rob Zombie song he had a little while back....

And Undertaker did have a few themes that weren't that.....but both of them were when he was the badass....

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:37 PM
Now that I'm about to have two rare themes (Basham and Shelton)

would anyone like them?

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:39 PM
Nah, the only thing I want right now is Batista's new theme....:(

Or maybe even Eddie Guerrero's new theme.

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:40 PM
Nah, the only thing I want right now is Batista's new theme....:(

Or maybe even Eddie Guerrero's new theme.

I would laugh my ass off if someone used Eddie's new theme for their ringtone

why does it have the cellphone ring in the beginning anyway?

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:42 PM
Now that I'm about to have two rare themes (Basham and Shelton)

would anyone like them?
Hmmm..I'd like that Bashams theme.:)

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 06:42 PM
I have no idea. Whenever I hear his theme music, I always thing "oh ****, the phone's ringing!" then I realize it's part of Eddie's theme.


And you know, having that as their ringtone does sound a big interesting.....:D

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 06:43 PM
I would laugh my ass off if someone used Eddie's new theme for their ringtone

why does it have the cellphone ring in the beginning anyway?
I don't know.Same reason the Evolution theme has a ticking noise in the beginning.

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 06:44 PM
The phone would make me think that eddie is arrogant and busy

he needs to bust out a phone during a promo and talk about how busy he is or something

and wear a suit a lot

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 07:06 PM
I hope the Bashams feud with MNM

that would be great

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 07:08 PM
The phone would make me think that eddie is arrogant and busy

he needs to bust out a phone during a promo and talk about how busy he is or something

and wear a suit a lot

Just the image of Eddie in a suit kinda makes me laugh.....:(

If anything, it should start out with an aforementioned clock ticking, kinda like it's only time before he goes psycho again :confused:

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 07:23 PM
how about the sound of him ripping Rey's mask?:D

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 07:29 PM
how about the sound of him ripping Rey's mask?:D
Nice:D

Jason Blood
06-16-2005, 07:37 PM
Eddie will be going 1 on 1 with Paul London

do you think he might win the CW championship one day? (he's only 220 lbs and qualifies)

Sabretooth
06-16-2005, 07:39 PM
I want him to stay with the heavyweights really.Have him feud with Benoit.

PyroChamber
06-16-2005, 07:57 PM
Yeah, he's in OVW and the WWE wants him to fight some UFC-style matches to get some more attention.

Although, there's not really a possibility that he might come back to the WWE since I heard his attitude wasn't that good....Just imagine if Mike The Miz won TE, at least it would give him something to do besides RW/RR Challenges.

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 09:07 PM
Eddie will be going 1 on 1 with Paul London

do you think he might win the CW championship one day? (he's only 220 lbs and qualifies)

He could...or maybe this match with London might open the doors for him to introduce "friends" of his who could help him take the CW title away from London - Psichosis, Super Crazy, or Juventud....

Super Kal
06-16-2005, 09:20 PM
lol, Heidenreich is one of the strangest face characters I've ever seen

PyroChamber
06-16-2005, 09:34 PM
I still don't get how he suddenly became a face.

John Constantine
06-16-2005, 09:39 PM
I'm guessing he one day decided he wanted a friend...:confused:

I always thought that Heidenreich was the worst OVW had to offer, then I saw Chris Masters :eek: :(

The Batman
06-16-2005, 09:51 PM
How the hell does JBL get the upperhand on taker?

GLfan
06-17-2005, 08:01 AM
Another legend passes away.
Voice of the AWA Rod Trongard passes away at 72




Rod Trongard, a long-time pro wrestling announcer in the 70s and 80s, mostly with the AWA, passed away earlier today from liver cancer. He was 72.

Trongard, a member of the Minnesota Broadcasting Hall of Fame, began as a radio announcer in 1953. He announced for Verne Gagne, and in the 80s, worked for the WWF during a period when Vince McMahon attempted to raid everyone who worked for Gagne. He did not do well in WWF, and didn't last long there.

He had been a sportscaster in Mankato, MN for the past 23 years.

DOG LIPS
06-17-2005, 08:10 AM
How the hell does JBL get the upperhand on taker?
His magic cowboy hat that weakens dead guys. :(

kane9321
06-17-2005, 08:55 AM
I think smackdown got the short end of the stick in drafting orton.They needed a better pick, just someone else maybe chris jericho or kane.Orton cant replace angle sorry just dont see it

DOG LIPS
06-17-2005, 08:57 AM
I think this draft is crap. They said they wanted to shake things up a bit again, but then they do one guy per show, unlike the big draft last time where they did like 20 guys in a night. So all in all it's like they traded a few guys for a few guys and that's it.

Bad Superman
06-17-2005, 09:34 AM
I think this draft is crap. They said they wanted to shake things up a bit again, but then they do one guy per show, unlike the big draft last time where they did like 20 guys in a night. So all in all it's like they traded a few guys for a few guys and that's it.

I agree. The current format has been boring and too long. I preferred the 20 guys in a night. The current format is a cheap way of trying to get better ratings. I hope TNA becomes a serious competitor to WWE. Ever since WWE bought WCW and ECW, they've laid back and the quality of the product has become mediocre.

3dman27
06-17-2005, 09:38 AM
yeah besides upn's gone on record as cancelling smackdown when is contract expires net yearwhy bother with the draft ?

GLfan
06-17-2005, 09:44 AM
I hope TNA becomes a serious competitor to WWE. Ever since WWE bought WCW and ECW, they've laid back and the quality of the product has become mediocre.
I agree but at this point, it won't happen. TNA's deal with Spike TV fell through and they are not with FSN anymore.

hotrain33
06-17-2005, 10:00 AM
I still get this feeling that tna will sign with either spike tv or fx which may bring the wwe roster together. Thats why the draft is so boring because most of the main eventers are moving to raw. Hopefully the next two weeks we will see smackdown get some quality stars like Jericho and Christian who can be a great addition to the roster.

Super Kal
06-17-2005, 11:45 AM
I agree but at this point, it won't happen. TNA's deal with Spike TV fell through and they are not with FSN anymore.
so what does that leave TNA with?

3dman27
06-17-2005, 12:04 PM
so what does that leave TNA with?
ppv and /or dvds i'm afraid

greenlantern248
06-17-2005, 01:47 PM
Well you know the draft is scripted right? it's not the luck of the pick. Cena moved to Raw cause he had now one left to fued with, his JBL fued is old.

Angle moved cause he has done it all on Smackdown he needs something new like HHH, and to pick up the HBK fued again.

Orton came over to Smackdown to go after Taker as one of the only legends Orton hasn't defeated yet, plus Orton blames Taker for his injuries.

Watch Batista will be on Smackdown before this lottery is down with. Dave will beat HHH in the Hell in the Cell and still be champ and be on Smackdown, cause as long as he stays on Raw he lives in HHH shadow, cause HHH will always fued with Batista as long as he is Champ.

Just like Charlie Haas will head over to Raw to start a fued with Shelton Benjamin.

The only reason why I know the draft is scripted, I read this article from this wrestling site (not wwe.com) and this guy was giving his thoughts on the draft, he mentioned who will be going where, he said that Cena, Angle, Haas, and Torrie Wilson, will go to Raw. Then he said that Benoit, Batista, Orton, and I believe he said Y2J will go to Smackdown. I will try to find the article, but so far he is right.

greenlantern248
06-17-2005, 01:52 PM
Here go to this site it brings up the article, the article was written June 11, 2005 (before the Angle and Orton move)

http://www.thebalrogslair.com/opinions/corsaro/2005/0611.shtml

Sabretooth
06-17-2005, 02:45 PM
I hope Torrie doesn't go to Raw,there's so many more people who could and SHOULD go to Raw.I'll be pissed if she goes instead of Haas

John Constantine
06-17-2005, 03:41 PM
I agree but at this point, it won't happen. TNA's deal with Spike TV fell through and they are not with FSN anymore.

Actually it was with WGN. A deal with Spike TV might be still up in the air. But so far, they're pretty much screwed because they haven't been on tv for a couple of weeks and Slammiversary is this weekend......

Donnie Darko
06-17-2005, 05:55 PM
ok, here are my thoughts on TNA...
They have a lot of EXTREMELY talented wrestlers BUT every time I watched they're show on FSN, the matches were like 2 or 3 minutes long, at least half of the show was spent with ads for upcoming ppvs or dvds, there were like no mic skills to be seen (except Jeff Jarrett), and they wasted way too much time on people like Hall and Nash (who, as much as I loved them in the 90s, are craptacular now). Maybe if I got one of their ppvs I would fall in love with it, but their show pretty much never impressed me that much.

Jason Blood
06-17-2005, 07:12 PM
lol, Heidenreich is one of the strangest face characters I've ever seen

I want to know why he hasn't been released yet

Snitsky is actually okay...

Jason Blood
06-17-2005, 10:42 PM
WWE.com has put up two new features

John Cena presents the Chain Gang Update every week

and you can FINALLY download JBL's Radio Show:D:D:D

U.S War Machine
06-17-2005, 11:02 PM
By the way where did Marc Henry go or what happened to him? Just curious.

Duende Verde
06-17-2005, 11:23 PM
lol, Heidenreich is one of the strangest face characters I've ever seen
Friends of Heidenreich (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/heidenreich/3664783/) :confused:

Jason Blood
06-17-2005, 11:25 PM
By the way where did Marc Henry go or what happened to him? Just curious.
Injured during a match with Chris Benoit

currently in OVW

Jason Blood
06-17-2005, 11:26 PM
Friends of Heidenreich (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/heidenreich/3664783/) :confused:
what in the blue hell?

PyroChamber
06-18-2005, 01:43 AM
I hope Torrie doesn't go to Raw,there's so many more people who could and SHOULD go to Raw.I'll be pissed if she goes instead of HaasIf she does got to RAW, all she'll probably do is all the crap Christy and the rookie divas do, pillow fights and absolutely nothing.

I'll be surprised if they decide to get her a title shot, that's if the women's champoinship stays on RAW.

TheVileOne
06-18-2005, 03:27 AM
Speaking of wrestling, anyone watching Slammiversary on Sunday? The card looks fantastic.

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 03:40 AM
This thing gets more interesting by the day.....

Tracy Smothers, one of the wrestlers furious with JBL's treatment of The Blue Meanie at 'One Night Stand,' shot on the WWE wrestler at an independent show for Tennessee's UWA.

Smothers challenged JBL to "step up like a man," nothing that he'd be interested in a legitimate fight anywhere in the country.

Speaking on behalf of the wrestler, the webmaster of TracySmothers.biz confirmed that the promo took place and referred to it as a "straight shoot." The interview was taped for the promoter's television show.

More details on this will likely follow.

Source: PWInsider.com

3dman27
06-18-2005, 04:44 AM
If she does got to RAW, all she'll probably do is all the crap Christy and the rookie divas do, pillow fights and absolutely nothing.

I'll be surprised if they decide to get her a title shot, that's if the women's champoinship stays on RAW.
now that they've promoted lilian to full diva status maybe they'll have torrie feud with her over viscera
yeah i know YUCK

Metamorpho1977
06-18-2005, 11:39 AM
I still get this feeling that tna will sign with either spike tv or fx which may bring the wwe roster together. Thats why the draft is so boring because most of the main eventers are moving to raw. Hopefully the next two weeks we will see smackdown get some quality stars like Jericho and Christian who can be a great addition to the roster.

here is what is gonna happen. At the next Raw ppv with Jericho vs Christian vs Cena, Christian is gonna with the title and be drafted to Smackdown, because as it is now, Smackdown has no world champion.

Lobo
06-18-2005, 12:09 PM
here is what is gonna happen. At the next Raw ppv with Jericho vs Christian vs Cena, Christian is gonna with the title and be drafted to Smackdown, because as it is now, Smackdown has no world champion.


I thin Cena will stay champ in that match. HHH will get drafted, beat Batista and bring that title to SD. Then HHH will get Theodore Long "fired" from his General manager position and he'll be replaced by you guessed it Stephanie McMahon

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 12:13 PM
ECF'NW:up: :up: :up:

greenlantern248
06-18-2005, 01:00 PM
I thin Cena will stay champ in that match. HHH will get drafted, beat Batista and bring that title to SD. Then HHH will get Theodore Long "fired" from his General manager position and he'll be replaced by you guessed it Stephanie McMahon

Cena will still remand champ, and I think Batista will beat HHH and Batista will get drafted cause of the whole thing with Randy Orton. Orton blames both Batista and the Undertaker for his injuries and now that Orton is on Smackdown Batista should soon follow.

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 03:58 PM
I thin Cena will stay champ in that match. HHH will get drafted, beat Batista and bring that title to SD. Then HHH will get Theodore Long "fired" from his General manager position and he'll be replaced by you guessed it Stephanie McMahon

I could actually see that happen....well maybe not Stephanie becoming GM again, but you never know....

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:01 PM
I think Y2J will win the belt and go to SD,even though it's a dead end show right now,the last segment on Raw was great IMO with Angel.HHH,Batista and HBK ,Vengeance is shaping up nicely

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:06 PM
As much as I would like to see Jericho win the title, it's not gonna happen, same with Christian....:(

Hell, I can already see the outcome of the triple threat match on Vengeance: Both Christian and Jericho beat up Cena, then one of them tries to pin Cena and that causes a rift. They both start to fight each other. Cena regains his strength, takes out Christian, then does the five-knuckle shuffle on Jericho and the FU. Then cue his theme music....:(

But beyond that, Vengeance does sound like a good PPV...especially with Angle vs HBK II :up:

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:14 PM
But beyond that, Vengeance does sound like a good PPV...especially with Angle vs HBK II :up:

The only rematch other than Rey/Eddie from WM21 i actually want to see
What did you think of one night stand ? (to lazy to read back as i only saw it yesterday:( )

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:19 PM
I actually didn't watch it, but from what I read of it, it sounded kickass. It really seemed like the WWE pulled a PPV that was as close to the spirit of ECW as possible. And despite the fact that they didn't have some ECW stars in it (Raven, Jerry Lynn, Steve Corino, Shane Douglas...), I felt that they still had enough of the main ECW guys to make it up.

I'm definitely gonna get the dvd though...which comes out surprisingly June 28..that's pretty quick :eek:

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:27 PM
I actually didn't watch it, but from what I read of it, it sounded kickass. It really seemed like the WWE pulled a PPV that was as close to the spirit of ECW as possible. And despite the fact that they didn't have some ECW stars in it (Raven, Jerry Lynn, Steve Corino, Shane Douglas...), I felt that they still had enough of the main ECW guys to make it up.

I'm definitely gonna get the dvd though...which comes out surprisingly June 28..that's pretty quick :eek:
yeah i was surprised at the speed there getting out at.ONS was awesome,only Eddie vs Benoit and Rey vs phsycosis wernt great matches,Sabu vs Rhyno,and Awesome vs Tanaka were amazing and the Dudleys vs Dreamer and Sandman was a classic ECW streetfight with some emotional surprises,2 kickass promo's as well from RVD and Heyman

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:29 PM
Yeah, I heard the Awesome/Tanaka match was one of the best matches of the night and that it might mean that Awesome has earned himself another chance with the WWE. Although I don't really think he can really excel out of the ECW ring though :confused:

And I was really surprised by the promos by Heyman and RVD. I mean props have to be given to the WWE to even allow those two to say stuff like that on a PPV sponsored by that same company :up:

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:31 PM
Yeah, I heard the Awesome/Tanaka match was one of the best matches of the night and that it might mean that Awesome has earned himself another chance with the WWE. Although I don't really think he can really excel out of the ECW ring though :confused:

And I was really surprised by the promos by Heyman and RVD. I mean props have to be given to the WWE to even allow those two to say stuff like that on a PPV sponsored by that same company :up:

yeah it seemed like JBL was impressed with Awesome and Tanaka is just amazing,the punishment he can take is right up there with Sabu.
Best line of the night was Heyman to JBL-"The only reason you were champion for a year was HHH didnt want to work tuesdays":D

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:33 PM
SPeaking of Sabu, I was surprised he even wrestled a match. I heard he was really injured from the years of punishment he's taken. And I was even surprised that RVD got involved in that match.

That line was almost sig-worthy. Best burn of the month. Plus, it served JBL right for the stunt he pulled with Blue Meanie later on :up:

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:41 PM
yeah i thought of making that line a sig:p
I heard that Sabu had spent 90 days in hospital just prior to the show and was told he'd never wrestle again.JBL seems like a bit of a locker room bully to me

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:43 PM
Him and Hardcore Holly are both bullies...they're always doing **** like hazing new talent and stuff like that.

I heard something like that with Sabu as well. That's why it was surprising that he actually wrestled a match and performed some gutsy moves.

Oh, another ECW wrestler that was a bit missed was New Jack. But I heard the reason why he couldn't show up for the show was because he was in trouble with the law in New York. Surprise surprise :p

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:45 PM
I was never a new jack fan,his music playing all match drove me nuts:(
with Sabu i can only think of this --[Bobby Heenan]He's not Human[Bobby Heenan]:D

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:51 PM
That what was so great about him, and made his matches that much more insane :D

I'm hoping he does show up for the next ECW PPV....assuming the WWE will make another one. But with the buyrates for ONS being some of the highest for any WWE PPV in years, I really wouldn't be surprised if we see another one :up:

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 04:56 PM
definately get a second one:up:

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 04:58 PM
Vince would be almost stupid to not make a second one. The Rise and Fall dvd sold gangbusters, the PPV got huge buyrates. Hell, ECW is probably the most profitable thing the WWE has done in years. I really wouldn't be surprised to see a full-on return of the promotion, maybe take over Smackdown? ;)

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 05:00 PM
OH man that would be amazing,to have ECW back,god i miss it:(

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 05:04 PM
And it would be such a huge comeback story. The little promotion that could has made it's way back.

The only thing would be the WWE has to keep it the way it was, no changing things around just to make it more "mainstream"

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 05:08 PM
yeah one of the things i didnt like at one night stand was the way they beeped out some of the cussing from the wrestlers

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 05:10 PM
aw man, they actually did that? Well at least the swears won't get bleeped out in the dvd....I hope :confused: :(

The crowd for ONS sounded hilarious though. They kept swearing at the WWE wrestlers and booed the 619 :D

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 05:13 PM
yeah they couldn't cut out the you suck dick chants at Angle but he countered with "your mom's taught me how":D

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 05:16 PM
hmmm....I just saw this bit of news:

# Sabu is scheduled to have a meeting with Vince McMahon this Monday in Phoenix, Arizona.

# Juventud Guerrera's (Anibal Gonzalez) WWE name will just be Juventud as he will be dropping the Guerrera part off his name. On Velocity tonight, the graphic will just read Juventud.

# The storyline on Super Crazy and Psicosis joining WWE roster out of the blue will be that Smackdown General Manager Teddy Long was so impressed with them at ECW One Night Stand that he decided to sign them to contracts.

source - wrestlingobserver.com



That thing about Sabu is pretty interesting......

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Sabu in WWE:eek: but will they just waste him:(

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 05:19 PM
He might just be signed just to appear in some ECW-related stuff in the future. Kind of like the contract that Joey Styles signed recently.

But could an ECW-led Smackdown really be in the future? :confused: :)

Hunter Rider
06-18-2005, 05:22 PM
Oh god i hope so:D HHH did say before he wanted to work with Sabu and of course Van Damme is still there

John Constantine
06-18-2005, 05:25 PM
And they still have a bit of the ECW stars around. Plus, they could probably sign Sandman, Balls, and a few others eventually.

And honestly, last week's Raw and SD where they had ECW guys "invade" were probably some of the best episodes in a while....

Lobo
06-18-2005, 05:32 PM
Glad you finally saw ONS Hunter. John the DVD is a must buy. heyman is great he even mentioned Matt Hardy :up:

*edit*

hunter go vote for Kim Smith in the battle of the hotties thread, and John you voted for the wrong person :mad: ;)

White_Howling
06-18-2005, 06:14 PM
if they got rid of angle theme music.. they wouldn't be able to chant you suck any more.. ah ha

White_Howling
06-18-2005, 06:15 PM
if they got rid of angle theme music.. they wouldn't be able to chant you suck any more.. ah ha

Twitch
06-18-2005, 06:21 PM
Guess I'd be adding Velocity to my taping line up :cool::up:

Twitch
06-18-2005, 06:22 PM
if they got rid of angle theme music.. they wouldn't be able to chant you suck any more.. ah ha

I really want to become face he's the total package. Then again the fans might not accept him well.

Sabretooth
06-18-2005, 07:16 PM
Angle should stay heel.He's the best heel in WWE right now IMO :o

Donnie Darko
06-19-2005, 10:43 AM
yall know what I had completely forgotten about until the ECW ppv?

Hardcore Hak... boy did that suck

The Techno Bat
06-19-2005, 12:52 PM
yall know what I had completely forgotten about until the ECW ppv?

Hardcore Hak... boy did that suck

Or as I like to refer to him as Sweaty Nut Sack!

I think with the WWE signing alot of these ECW guys, they might want to rethink bringing back the hardcore championship

3dman27
06-19-2005, 03:41 PM
I think with the WWE signing alot of these ECW guys, they might want to rethink bringing back the hardcore championshipnow that you mention it thats a good idea :hyper:

Twitch
06-19-2005, 04:14 PM
indeed :up:

John Constantine
06-19-2005, 06:26 PM
yall know what I had completely forgotten about until the ECW ppv?

Hardcore Hak... boy did that suck

Probably another reason why WCW was so unwatchable sometimes....I also remember the huge furor when they signed Chastity :D

Jason Blood
06-19-2005, 07:05 PM
Kid Kash is on Heat

John Constantine
06-19-2005, 07:11 PM
Weird...the B-shows are actually showing more ECW talent than the A-shows this week :eek:

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 12:18 AM
Well, TNA's Slammiversary results are in. And it appears that AJ Styles has lost the world's title :(


But to someone that damn well deserves it though: Raven. This guy should've been champion a looong time ago.

It's just too damn bad that the TNA deal with WGN is dead though, I mean showing TNA the day after Slammiversary would've been a good way to attract new viewers....:mad: :(

3dman27
06-20-2005, 04:26 AM
you have a point
jason blood i saw kid kash on heat
not bad not bad at all
any ideas who'll come to raw tonight

Twitch
06-20-2005, 06:41 AM
I think its mid-card now.

I'm going to take Charlie Haas, I'll kill myself if its Torrie Wilson :mad: :(

3dman27
06-20-2005, 06:54 AM
whats wrong with torrie?
btw any ideas who besides kane will disrupt the lita edge wedding?i made a post about it earlier bur it didn't go through

Twitch
06-20-2005, 07:04 AM
whats wrong with torrie?
btw any ideas who besides kane will disrupt the lita edge wedding?i made a post about it earlier bur it didn't go through

I want it to be Matt so bad :o

3dman27
06-20-2005, 07:09 AM
I want it to be Matt so bad :oYEAH edge lita ANDthe wwe need a[ m] attitude adjusment badly :ff: :ff:

kane9321
06-20-2005, 11:38 AM
ohh ..wouldnt that be something if matt came back tonite...wow

Sabretooth
06-20-2005, 12:47 PM
Well, TNA's Slammiversary results are in. And it appears that AJ Styles has lost the world's title :(


But to someone that damn well deserves it though: Raven. This guy should've been champion a looong time ago.

It's just too damn bad that the TNA deal with WGN is dead though, I mean showing TNA the day after Slammiversary would've been a good way to attract new viewers....:mad: :(
Who'd he lose it to?Jeff Jarrett? He's the reason I can't watch TNA.He's much worse than HHH has probably ever been.

greenlantern248
06-20-2005, 01:08 PM
You know everyone is talking about the ECW stars, you do know that all of them already work for Vince, all of them are already on the WWE payroll, if they weren't then who was paying them to beat the hell out of eachother. Besides the only true ECW stars are the ones that don't already have a show in the WWE.

greenlantern248
06-20-2005, 01:16 PM
ohh ..wouldnt that be something if matt came back tonite...wow

I am sorry to say to the Matt Hardy fans out there, but it wont be Matt coming back tonight. I say this cause I checked the roster and Matt is not with the WWE anymore and Vince wont let someone who doesn't work for him anymore just show up. The Rock and Mick Foley are still on the Raw roster, this has nothing to do with Matt V1, I just think it's cool.

0neDisturbedSOB
06-20-2005, 01:21 PM
So who's joining RAW tonight?

Twitch
06-20-2005, 01:31 PM
Who'd he lose it to?Jeff Jarrett? He's the reason I can't watch TNA.He's much worse than HHH has probably ever been.

He lost it to Raven

Twitch
06-20-2005, 01:33 PM
I am sorry to say to the Matt Hardy fans out there, but it wont be Matt coming back tonight. I say this cause I checked the roster and Matt is not with the WWE anymore and Vince wont let someone who doesn't work for him anymore just show up. The Rock and Mick Foley are still on the Raw roster, this has nothing to do with Matt V1, I just think it's cool.

We know that, we just want him to beat the **** out of Edge :o

Jason Blood
06-20-2005, 02:19 PM
Well, TNA's Slammiversary results are in. And it appears that AJ Styles has lost the world's title :(


But to someone that damn well deserves it though: Raven. This guy should've been champion a looong time ago.

It's just too damn bad that the TNA deal with WGN is dead though, I mean showing TNA the day after Slammiversary would've been a good way to attract new viewers....:mad: :(

I wasn't expecting that at all!

Jason Blood
06-20-2005, 02:22 PM
I want it to be Matt so bad :o
I could see this all being a big plot to get ratings

it would be more amazing than the whole Abyss thing

but then again Matt won't be in DOR2, but then again revealing him in the roster would have spoiled everything

I'm really doubting it will happen, but I'm hoping...

Donnie Darko
06-20-2005, 02:45 PM
I was thinking today at work about a storyline I'd really like to see in WWE sometime soon. Ok, remember the Natural Born Thrillers (a shortlived, young heel group in WCW during the Russo era I believe)? Well, I'd like to see a group similar to that on Smackdown, like maybe Randy Orton (who should DEFINITELY be in it), forms a group of "Legend Killers" to take out all the "old men." They would all be young (or at least relatively young) wrestlers wanting their time to shine. Think about it... Orton as the obvious leader, get Charlie Haas (if he stays on SD) to turn back heel and join the group, Mark Jindrak (an original NBT member), and a few others getting together and staging attacks on the likes of Chris Benoit and The Undertaker. This storyline could come to a head at Survivor Series, with a match between the "Legend Killers" group and the older group, which could consist of Benoit, Undertaker, maybe Hardcore Holly, maybe Booker T, who knows. Just an idea.

3dman27
06-20-2005, 02:48 PM
somew what like a wcw storylinefrom near the end of wcw
new blood vs millionares club

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 02:56 PM
I wasn't expecting that at all!

Me neither. But I'm damn glad Raven won though. Hell, I would've been glad if anybody in that match one, aside from Sean Waltman :up:

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 02:57 PM
somew what like a wcw storylinefrom near the end of wcw
new blood vs millionares club

That was a feud that I thought was pretty interesting at first. But it degenerated pretty badly since the New Blood were made to look like fools at every which way.

Sabretooth
06-20-2005, 03:20 PM
I could see this all being a big plot to get ratings

it would be more amazing than the whole Abyss thing

but then again Matt won't be in DOR2, but then again revealing him in the roster would have spoiled everything

I'm really doubting it will happen, but I'm hoping...
What Abyss thing?

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 03:23 PM
A few months back, it seemed like Abyss was going to leave TNA for the WWE. It was reported everywhere and he was even taken off the TNA website for a bit. But in one PPV, he unexpectedly showed up and pulled a swerve on everyone.

Saying that, Matt Hardy WON'T be the one to interfere in the wedding tonight. With all possibility it will probably be Kane and the returning Trish

Jason Blood
06-20-2005, 03:26 PM
Me neither. But I'm damn glad Raven won though. Hell, I would've been glad if anybody in that match one, aside from Sean Waltman :up:
I'm upset that AJ's reign was ended so soon, but this rocks!

I can't believe Sean Waltman was in the match...

Sabretooth
06-20-2005, 03:26 PM
I was thinking today at work about a storyline I'd really like to see in WWE sometime soon. Ok, remember the Natural Born Thrillers (a shortlived, young heel group in WCW during the Russo era I believe)? Well, I'd like to see a group similar to that on Smackdown, like maybe Randy Orton (who should DEFINITELY be in it), forms a group of "Legend Killers" to take out all the "old men." They would all be young (or at least relatively young) wrestlers wanting their time to shine. Think about it... Orton as the obvious leader, get Charlie Haas (if he stays on SD) to turn back heel and join the group, Mark Jindrak (an original NBT member), and a few others getting together and staging attacks on the likes of Chris Benoit and The Undertaker. This storyline could come to a head at Survivor Series, with a match between the "Legend Killers" group and the older group, which could consist of Benoit, Undertaker, maybe Hardcore Holly, maybe Booker T, who knows. Just an idea.
I'd love to see that,but the old guys would make the Legend Killers look like *******s considering their strokes backstage :(

Sabretooth
06-20-2005, 03:28 PM
But could you imagine the ratings if Matt were to show up?The fans would go ****ing nuts,and Raw would get awesome ratings which equals them green thangs Vince loves :up:

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 03:31 PM
I'm upset that AJ's reign was ended so soon, but this rocks!

I can't believe Sean Waltman was in the match...

Yeah, he was the supposed "wildcard" in the match. What a waste....

This might mean a Raven-AJ STyles main event feud though, which is not bad at all :) At least this means Jarrett won't hog up the main event anymore :up:

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 03:32 PM
But could you imagine the ratings if Matt were to show up?The fans would go ****ing nuts,and Raw would get awesome ratings which equals them green thangs Vince loves :up:

Yeah, but the WWE would have to have been pretty damn original and smart to come up with a swerve like this, and do you honestly think they have it in them to pull something like this for so long without anybody else knowing?

IMO, Jeff Hardy has a better chance to showing up on Raw tonight than Matt :up:

Sabretooth
06-20-2005, 03:32 PM
But where the hell are they gonna feud?Didn't their deal with WGN fall through?

Jason Blood
06-20-2005, 03:32 PM
Yeah, he was the supposed "wildcard" in the match. What a waste....

This might mean a Raven-AJ STyles main event feud though, which is not bad at all :) At least this means Jarrett won't hog up the main event anymore :up:
I dunno...

Sabretooth
06-20-2005, 03:35 PM
Yeah, but the WWE would have to have been pretty damn original and smart to come up with a swerve like this, and do you honestly think they have it in them to pull something like this for so long without anybody else knowing?

IMO, Jeff Hardy has a better chance to showing up on Raw tonight than Matt :up:
I guess so.But I would just love to see Matt kick Edge's ass.But it seems a little odd Heyman brought up Hardy at the PPV.I know that was just to get at Edge,but he sure got the crowd going crazy.

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 03:42 PM
But where the hell are they gonna feud?Didn't their deal with WGN fall through?

They're supposedly getting a deal with Spike TV to play on Saturday nights where Velocity used to be.

Which isn't bad because they could be like the old WCW before Nitro....

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 03:43 PM
I dunno...

Well Dusty Rhodes is now gone from TNA, plus Jarrett was supposed to take part in the main event, but backed out, which was why Raven took his place in the match. Add to that Jarrett supposedly feuding with Jeff Hardy when Hardy's suspension is up and that may mean no more Jarrett in the title spot for a bit.

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 03:45 PM
I guess so.But I would just love to see Matt kick Edge's ass.But it seems a little odd Heyman brought up Hardy at the PPV.I know that was just to get at Edge,but he sure got the crowd going crazy.

But with ECW, they're always trying to be controversial and breaking character. That was probably why Heyman brought it up.

Besides, with the way Matt is acting lately, I wouldn't put it past him if he murdered Edge in his sleep or something like that :o

Jason Blood
06-20-2005, 03:50 PM
Holy crap

there's only four matches for Vengeance and it looks to be awesome

I would like to note that they only made three of them last week

Hunter Rider
06-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Source: PWInsider.com

As previously mentioned, Sabu is scheduled to meet with Vince McMahon tonight at RAW to talk about working with WWE. Also a lot of WWE sources have been saying that that they also plan to reach out to other former ECW talent.


Mike Awesome update

-- Awesome, who is now 42 and has been with his wife over 20 years, has expressed little interest in getting back into pro wrestling full-time. The big WCW contract he took (which you could hear Joey Styles yelling about on the commentary at the ECW PPV) has set him up with a degree of financial security that most wrestlers never achieve. This caused him to get a ton of negative heat from both the fans and the ECW wrestlers at the PPV, for walking out on ECW without losing the ECW title first. He got a four year, one million dollar contract from WCW, in part because he agreed to enter the company without losing the title first.

Mike Awesome suffered a deep gash on one of his knees at the ECW PPV from when he dove over the top rope onto Masato Tanaka at ringside. It required several stitches to fix up, however there is no serious damage done to his knee.

"There is no way Awesome did anything in that match that WWE would want," says one WWE wrestler. "He'll get a call to come back for the next ECW PPV, if there is one, but that's it." Says another WWE wrestler: "The Awesome match was way too much for the sake of being too much. But it's hard to fault the guys. They knew they had one night and they wanted to show what they could do and they absolutely worked their asses off."

Partial Source: WrestlingObserver.com

Contrary to what was speculated on the ROH Message Boards Saturday night, CM Punk has indeed signed a WWE deal. His winning the title was not phase one of some elaborate 'swerve' to convince fans that he was actually leaving the company. He will definitely be starting with WWE shortly.

However, it has been confirmed that CM Punk will work at least one more date with Ring Of Honor, as he will be defending the title he won at Death Before Dishonor III.

John Constantine
06-20-2005, 04:50 PM
There is word that the draft pick tonight might be The Big Show

If this is true, I'd be very, very disappointed.....:(

Lobo
06-20-2005, 05:03 PM
I have a bad feeling that's true. I hope it's Carlito though

Jason Blood
06-20-2005, 05:31 PM
There is word that the draft pick tonight might be The Big Show

If this is true, I'd be very, very disappointed.....:(

No chance in hell

he's teaming with Akebono to face Carlito and Matt Morgan in japan