Wrestling

[John Constantine]

well I guess it's only a matter of time before Triple H takes Cena's belt from him.

Maybe. Or maybe not.

The WWE really does see Cena as being the new Rock, Stone Cold, or Hulk hogan. ie. someone that they can sell a ****load of merchandise and can get insanely over with the crowd. Probably why they had Hulk Hogan be in the match last night. Kind of a pass-over from the old star to the new main-event star for the WWE.

I'm hoping that the WWE decides to think smart and have the feud, but maybe let Cena go over. I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it's something that I hope might happen.....

[Lobo]

RVD is a main eventer as far as I'm concerned. But for raw I see this: Even though HHH lost at wrestlemania, backlash, the first round of the gold rush tournament and to batista again at vengeance, somehow he wil be the number 1 contender for cena's title. John Cena sya goodbye to your championship. I'd like to see shelton get a title shot myself he just needs to develophis mic skills.

[Twitch]

Maybe. Or maybe not.

The WWE really does see Cena as being the new Rock, Stone Cold, or Hulk hogan. ie. someone that they can sell a ****load of merchandise and can get insanely over with the crowd. Probably why they had Hulk Hogan be in the match last night. Kind of a pass-over from the old star to the new main-event star for the WWE.

I'm hoping that the WWE decides to think smart and have the feud, but maybe let Cena go over. I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it's something that I hope might happen.....

In the case of Ego H I completely agree with you.

[John Constantine]

RVD is a main eventer as far as I'm concerned. But for raw I see this: Even though HHH lost at wrestlemania, backlash, the first round of the gold rush tournament and to batista again at vengeance, somehow he wil be the number 1 contender for cena's title. John Cena sya goodbye to your championship. I'd like to see shelton get a title shot myself he just needs to develophis mic skills.

But Cena is different from the other wrestlers that Triple H has buried. When you have Linda McMahon, the CEO of the WWE, say herself that she sees John Cena as being a wrestler in which they can sell a ****load of WWE products, you honestly think they're going to try and bury him like the other talent?

Honestly, I think Cena is here to stay.....

[The Ghoul]

Yes, Farooq is coming back and reforming the NOD.

I heard this rumor a year ago. I think this was just a one time thing because Godfather owns a strip club in Vegas.

[John Constantine]

Although the WWE draft lottery has come to a close, there are still plans for a few roster trades. As per the "rules" of the draft, all trading must be completed by midnight on Thursday.

As of this writing, the backstage word was that a few lowercard names would be moved via the trade clause.

It is not known if WWE will announce the trades via a cut-in during SmackDown, on the WWE website or during next Monday's RAW. Stay tuned for further updates.


Source: WrestlingObserver.com





Haas to Raw, Haas to Raw......:up:

[Sabretooth]

There is still hope....

[John Constantine]

What a rip :down


From 411:



Here is some information of the ECW One Night Stand DVD, courtesy of Jeremy Hirsch:

I got the ECW ONS DVD already, here are some notes.

The Dudley's Drop the Bombshell was changed to their WWE Theme they used prior to that.

Sandman does not get his Metallica theme, instead some Generic wordless knockoff.

The Danny Doring/Roadkill segment was just plain old cut out the show. Didn't even see it on the extras.

I think Taz's theme also seemed changed.

Watching the big brawl at the end, JBL indeed did nail Meanie with a cheap shot. He was not even Focused on Bradshaw. JBL went straight up behind and after blowing off whoever tried to fight and went after Meanie.

And finally yes, They did bleep out the F***k's!

[Twitch]

What a rip :down


From 411:



Here is some information of the ECW One Night Stand DVD, courtesy of Jeremy Hirsch:

I got the ECW ONS DVD already, here are some notes.

The Dudley's Drop the Bombshell was changed to their WWE Theme they used prior to that.

Sandman does not get his Metallica theme, instead some Generic wordless knockoff.

The Danny Doring/Roadkill segment was just plain old cut out the show. Didn't even see it on the extras.

I think Taz's theme also seemed changed.

Watching the big brawl at the end, JBL indeed did nail Meanie with a cheap shot. He was not even Focused on Bradshaw. JBL went straight up behind and after blowing off whoever tried to fight and went after Meanie.

And finally yes, They did bleep out the F***k's!

I'm not getting it now :mad: :(

[Lobo]

The F**ks were bleeped on the live show, but what about Heyman and Van dam's shoots were they edited as well?

[Lobo]

But Cena is different from the other wrestlers that Triple H has buried. When you have Linda McMahon, the CEO of the WWE, say herself that she sees John Cena as being a wrestler in which they can sell a ****load of WWE products, you honestly think they're going to try and bury him like the other talent?

Honestly, I think Cena is here to stay.....


I think Cena is here to stay as well and I like that, but he'll feud with HHH sooner or later. And I just don't want him to lose the title to HHH. God willing HHH will feud with Angle and stay away from the title at least for now. And Cena can feud with Jericho.

[The Techno Bat]

Ric Flair vs Kurt Angle was perhaps one of the greatest matches I have seen in a long time on RAW! Flair deserves one more title run WoOoOoOoOoO! ! ! !

[John Constantine]

I think Cena is here to stay as well and I like that, but he'll feud with HHH sooner or later. And I just don't want him to lose the title to HHH. God willing HHH will feud with Angle and stay away from the title at least for now. And Cena can feud with Jericho.

Yeah, there's no doubt he'll feud with Triple H eventually. But I'm hoping that maybe, just maybe Cena will go over in that feud. And I have a feeling that might happen.....but then again I could be totally wrong and Triple H will just go over Cena easily. But if that happens, the WWE might have to find a whole new merchandise whore

[baby_webhead]

Is this thing between JBL and ECW i've been hearing about real (as in not scripted) or part of the show?

[Jason Blood]

I need some help, what Flash player should I use to watch TNA's Impact, the one they have won't work, and I couldn't get Macromedia to work either.
Go on google and look up FLV player

there's this guy with a wierd name that made one, and it's awesome

[Jason Blood]

since the draft picks are known by most by now, I have just one thing to say

I WAS SOOO RIGHT

[John Constantine]

Oh god....:(


This week's WWE RAW rating climbed to a very solid 4.4 rating. The anticipation for the final draft picks and the interest in post-Vengeance storylines were the big factors behind the surge.

However, the highest rated segment of the night will likely come as a surprise to a number of readers. With a 4.7 quarter, the debut of the RAW Diva Search tied the main-event for the night's top mark. WWE will definitely see this as a blessing to continue pushing the "reality" competition.

The night's lowest quarter was a 3.7.

(Partial Source: PWTorch.com)


Guess what this means? More worthless Diva Search ****.....:(

[Jason Blood]

I blame Big Vis and Sgt. Slaughter

[LastSunrise1981]

Oh god....:(


This week's WWE RAW rating climbed to a very solid 4.4 rating. The anticipation for the final draft picks and the interest in post-Vengeance storylines were the big factors behind the surge.

However, the highest rated segment of the night will likely come as a surprise to a number of readers. With a 4.7 quarter, the debut of the RAW Diva Search tied the main-event for the night's top mark. WWE will definitely see this as a blessing to continue pushing the "reality" competition.

The night's lowest quarter was a 3.7.

(Partial Source: PWTorch.com)


Guess what this means? More worthless Diva Search ****.....:(

Means more worthless Diva Search and more Ego H. :(

[Donnie Darko]

how long do yall think it'll be before RVD wrestles again?

[TheVileOne]

God I am so sick and bored of WWE right now. I've almost totally switched to TNA wrestling nowadays.

[White_Howling]

its like their out of ideas. the DIVA SEARCH is a mega waste of time.. its'll take only a few weeks before ppl start booing them .. like they did last year.. chris masters is getting annoying.. and Big V is the new mark henry? didn't they try this already? yep im starting to get bored of it.. and shawn micheals and hogan? enought please.. it looked funny when john cena walked out

[White_Howling]

What a rip :down


From 411:



Here is some information of the ECW One Night Stand DVD, courtesy of Jeremy Hirsch:

I got the ECW ONS DVD already, here are some notes.

The Dudley's Drop the Bombshell was changed to their WWE Theme they used prior to that.

Sandman does not get his Metallica theme, instead some Generic wordless knockoff.

The Danny Doring/Roadkill segment was just plain old cut out the show. Didn't even see it on the extras.

I think Taz's theme also seemed changed.

Watching the big brawl at the end, JBL indeed did nail Meanie with a cheap shot. He was not even Focused on Bradshaw. JBL went straight up behind and after blowing off whoever tried to fight and went after Meanie.

And finally yes, They did bleep out the F***k's!


man and i was going to pick this up today.. all i want to know was.. what was stone colds part in this? did he do his flick off and stuneer? again? or did he have a speech. just wondering cuz in the comericals his music would play towards the end

[Bad Superman]

Of course. It was Ego H's plan all along, since it was reported him and Cena don't get along backstage at all and degraded Cena by saying he's not a leader. I guess Ego H is going to show him who's boss.

Just what we need, another Ego H title run. :rolleyes:

Can't you just feel the excitement in me? I can't WAIT for the greatest wrestler alive to be champion again. :rolleyes:

I guess I won't be watching WWE again for a LONG time.

Same here. It's amazing how one man (Ego H) has destroyed what others (Hogan, Flair, Stone Cold, The Rock) built: Wrestling.

[Bad Superman]

Means more worthless Diva Search and more Ego H. :(

Curiously. . . Ego H was no where on the show, so I guess the big ratings is a good sign. :D

[Bad Superman]

The Diva Search is a huge waste of time. Each time it comes up, I just change the channel. I took the time it was on the air and it was close to 15 minutes. That's way too much time. There are a lot of talent deserving air time.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but with the segment getting huge in the ratings, it's only going to keep going on.....:(

[Donnie Darko]

man and i was going to pick this up today.. all i want to know was.. what was stone colds part in this? did he do his flick off and stuneer? again? or did he have a speech. just wondering cuz in the comericals his music would play towards the end

Stone Cold plays a huge role at the end of One Night Stand, coming out after the final match. He talks for a second, then calls out all the ECW guys from the back to the ring. When all the ECW guys get there, he starts talking crap to the WWE "crusaders," eventually getting them to come to the ring, where the brawl takes place. He then gets Mick Foley to bring Eric Bischoff to the ring, where they beat him up, too, including the "middle finger-stunner." Then all the ECW guys get a beer and celebrate together in the ring.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

RAW was especially good this week. Flair cracked me up with all of his dirty tactics on Agle...when he grabbed him by the balls I about died laughing. The 6 man tag match was great....makes me sad I missed the show, the Pond is 20min from my house.

[Metamorpho1977]

rumor has it, Hulk Hogan will be the guest on next week's Cabana with Carlito.

For one thing, I sure hope aside from the cabana that Hogan answers Chris Master's Masterlock Challenge next week.

[John Constantine]

Most likely. Probably to pimp his new reality show. It's probably also why Hogan wrestled this week on Raw.....

[Bad Superman]

Most likely. Probably to pimp his new reality show. It's probably also why Hogan wrestled this week on Raw.....

Didn't you love his leg drop? :D

[John Constantine]

I love his no-sell more. It's pretty routine, but damn, I get a kick out of seeing him do his whole no-sell schtick every match :up:

[MysticKotenks]

Spoilers



Bastia nad christian get drafted

[greenlantern248]

It would cool to see Kane (now he is back being the monster) answer Chris Masters challenge next week, and shut Chris Masters up once and for all. You know come to think of it I have never seen that guy wrestle in an actually match, does he?

[Spider-Fan]

He has, but not often.

[LastSunrise1981]

It would cool to see Kane (now he is back being the monster) answer Chris Masters challenge next week, and shut Chris Masters up once and for all. You know come to think of it I have never seen that guy wrestle in an actually match, does he?

Knowing the WWE they'd probably make Kane fall to the Masterlock. They're smart like that you know.

And you know what's sad? I've seen many wrestlers get out of the masterlock before, but if I were a writer I'd have Kurt Angle or Batista come out to accept the challenge.

And he has wrestled, but they're mostly short squash matches anyways.

I'll give you a rundown of his match.

Boring entrance

Insert jobber squash wrestler entrance.

No sell the offense

Masterlock

End of match.

[greenlantern248]

Thanks guys I have never seen him actually wrestle so that is why I asked.

[Donnie Darko]

Do yall remember that crap match with Val Venis? Masters' ring work is so bad that they made him win in like the worst way imaginable. Like, he didn't even hit a move the whole match.

[John Constantine]

The sad thing was, that was the best match Masters has had yet.


Again, why is this guy still on Raw? I'm surprised he hasn't been sent back down to OVW yet....

[The Techno Bat]

Also it seems the Eddie-Rey feud takes a very disturbing turn....

Do you think that they might go Eddie is really the father of Rey's kid routine?

[John Constantine]

I hope not. Why couldn't they just end the damn feud? It was getting good enough heat. Adding this "twist" to it does nothing but make it as tacky as the Kurt Angle/Booker T feud.

[The Techno Bat]

I agree...I think that by adding tacky stuff like this it cheapens the feud and actually ruins anything great that may have come out of it. The Booker T vs Kurt Angle matches were good but once he was all like I want to have sex with your wife, I just kept thinking about the whole Katie Vick storyline when stuff like this happens

[White_Howling]

does batista and christian go to smack down? is this true?

[Archangel]

Correct, sir.

[White_Howling]

sooo whats the deal about this smack down belt? are they still gonna have it even if batista moves to smack down with his belt

[Archangel]

That's the thing, all 6 guys go out to the ring to start the match, and Theodore Long comes out and says that there's no need for the match because Batista is there, then he comes out and the show ends

[The Ghoul]

It would cool to see Kane (now he is back being the monster) answer Chris Masters challenge next week, and shut Chris Masters up once and for all. You know come to think of it I have never seen that guy wrestle in an actually match, does he?

I saw him in a dark match about 3 weeks before his debut when I went to a Raw episode. The crowd yelled boring & Masters got his ass pretty much booed out of his own match. I could tell it was suppossed to be longer but they had to finish after like 4 minutes because no one cared. I was really pissed about it because usually pre-Raw dark matches usually have pretty established names just having tryouts or just promting themselves because they are from that area. So last year Raw came down & I saw a match with Norman Smiley & the place exploded. January I go again & I see Chris Masters in a horrible crappy match... even though I was told the dark matcj was with New Jack & I practiclly came all over myself when I heard that only to find out that it was an empty arena dark match to tryout for executive types... And that's the story on how Chris Masters ruined my wrestling expirence before I knew or cared who he was... Ok... I never cared, even now.






Also, I try to go on PWInsider & it won't go passed the home page. I can read up on stuff from there on my phone but when I go on my acuall computer it doesn't work. It just has the same thing can someone explain this for me?

[Donnie Darko]

damn, Norman Smiley... I LOVE Norman Smiley!

[White_Howling]

whoa austin really let himself go.. that beer belly really got to him when he stopped wrestling. just watched the ecw pay per veiw. "Holy ****"

[Angelus103]

does anyone else think smackdown should go to be a live show like raw

[John Constantine]

whoa austin really let himself go.. that beer belly really got to him when he stopped wrestling. just watched the ecw pay per veiw. "Holy ****"

A lot of wrestlers usually let themselves go at that age. Seeing some of the old wrestlers wrestle on TNA kinda makes me shake my head because of how fat they got....

[Lobo]

does anyone else think smackdown should go to be a live show like raw

Hell yeah :up:


The ratings would go up because people would stop reading spoilers.

[Sabretooth]

A lot of wrestlers usually let themselves go at that age. Seeing some of the old wrestlers wrestle on TNA kinda makes me shake my head because of how fat they got....
Hell,look at WWE.Flair SERIOUSLY let himself go.HHH was looking soft for a little while,but he's pretty ripped now.Honestly,I'm suprised The Undertaker's in the shape he is.JBL's getting kinda fat too

[White_Howling]

Hell,look at WWE.Flair SERIOUSLY let himself go.HHH was looking soft for a little while,but he's pretty ripped now.Honestly,I'm suprised The Undertaker's in the shape he is.JBL's getting kinda fat too

i always found JBL to be fat.. even in his APA days.. undertaker was never ripped but he always had the power

[John Constantine]

Yeah, JBL always was a bit on the flabby side. I remember those "Bradshaw needs a bra" signs ;) :D

[Jason Blood]

people were talking about how creepy the whole Eddie video thing was, but I thought it wasn't...

he knows Rey's son already

[Jason Blood]

why don't they edit out the "Mack-militant" part of Teddy's intro?

[PyroChamber]

After seeing that Melina match, are they ever gonna have the ladies actually wrestling without that catfighting bull****? Melina would be better on RAW because I've read that she can actually wrestle pretty good.

[John Constantine]

people were talking about how creepy the whole Eddie video thing was, but I thought it wasn't...

he knows Rey's son already

I still thought it was a bit creepy. I mean the way he was offering the candy to his son, it just seemed a bit freaky to me.

Ugh, they should've just traded Rey to Raw this past week....:o

[Sabretooth]

I thought it was creepy when he sat on Eddie's lap :(

[Jason Blood]

but Eddie already knows him

it would be creepy if he just said "Hey, I'm your dad's friend", but Eddie KNOWS Rey's Family

[Sabretooth]

Still,I'm sure Rey's kid would know that Eddie turned his back on Rey,why would he want to go near him?

[Jason Blood]

Still,I'm sure Rey's kid would know that Eddie turned his back on Rey,why would he want to go near him?
that's a loophole in the storyline, and not real life

1. Rey could not allow his son to watch wrestling

2. Rey could tell his son that wrestling is just a show

3. blah blah blah

you get the idea

[Sabretooth]

No,I know it's a storyline,just it doesn't fit with the story.

[John Constantine]

but Eddie already knows him

it would be creepy if he just said "Hey, I'm your dad's friend", but Eddie KNOWS Rey's Family

That's what makes it even creepier. Plus, Eddie looked a bit unsavory at that moment.

I mean just imagine if all of a sudden you saw your dad's best friend come up to you acting all weird and giving you candy and saying all this weird ****? That would freak me out a bit to be honest.....

[John Constantine]

So the trade deadline passed, and only one trade has been made, a huge 11-man trade:

RAW brand gets:

* Mark Jindrak: Former WCW Tag Team Champion
* Rene Dupree: Former WWE Tag Team Champion; former World Tag Team Champion
* Danny Basham: Two-time former WWE Tag Team Champion
* Kenzo Suzuki (with Hiroko): Former WWE Tag Team Champion
* Chavo Guerrero: Five-time former Cruiserweight Champion; two-time former WWE Tag Team Champion


SmackDown! brand gets:

* William Regal: Four-time former WCW Television Champion; three-time former Hardcore Champion; four-time former European Champion; former Intercontinental Champion; four-time former World Tag Team Champion
* Candice: 2004 RAW Diva Search contestant
* Sylvain Grenier: Four-time former World Tag Team Champion
* Simon Dean: Former RAW sponsor
* Steven Richards: Former two-time ECW Tag Team Champion; former 21-time Hardcore Champion



I am pissed. No Charlie Haas! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[The Techno Bat]

Interesting with Griener and Dupree switching shows. You think they would have thrown Conway on Smackdown and reformed the original version of La Resistance, I think Conway has the best shot out of the three to be really successful

[GLfan]

but Eddie already knows him

it would be creepy if he just said "Hey, I'm your dad's friend", but Eddie KNOWS Rey's FamilyI bet Eddie will say that the kid is not Rey's, it's really Eddie's son. :p What a soap opera.

[3dman27]

i hear the wwe has informed all wrestlers to be on the alert for dismissal heres who i'd like to see them dump
TRIPLE H
RICK FLAIR
ERIC BISCHOFF
EDGE&LITA
THE COACH
CHRIS MASTERS

[The Techno Bat]

i hear the wwe has informed all wrestlers to be on the alert for dismissal heres who i'd like to see them dump
TRIPLE H
RICK FLAIR
ERIC BISCHOFF
EDGE&LITA
THE COACH
CHRIS MASTERS



Triple H- that will never happen, unless he and Stephanie get a divorce and ended on BAD terms.

Ric Flair- I think Flair can write his own ticket and will be around as long as he wants, plus he and Triple H are best buddies WoOoOoOoOo! Plus he is THE MAN!

Eric Bischoff- Another guy I don't really see going anywhere, the fans hate him and he is a great heel character.

Edge & Lita- would love to see the both of them go. Can't stand them! And they offer nothing.

The Coach- I think he is pretty funny, but if they canned him it would be no big deal

Chris Masters- *YAWN* what were you saying about *YAWN* him?

I could see the WWE dumping guys like Rosey, Gene Snitsky, Maven, Mark Jindrak, Viscera, Steven Richards, William Regal, and some if not all of the RAW Diva contestants from last year.

[brainchild81]

Get rid of Kane.

[greenlantern248]

does anyone else think smackdown should go to be a live show like raw

Yeah I think Smackdown should be live. If they move Smackdown to friday nights that could work. Raw would be live on mondays in one city and SD could be live on fridays in another city.

[John Constantine]

Interesting with Griener and Dupree switching shows. You think they would have thrown Conway on Smackdown and reformed the original version of La Resistance, I think Conway has the best shot out of the three to be really successful

Yeah, I thought so too. Most of the people in the trade baffle me. Like why is Chavo on Raw now? What can he do on that show? He would've been better off sticking around on SD and teaming up with London to fight the Mexicools....

[0neDisturbedSOB]

So now I guess the WWE championship belt is the #1 belt in the company since Batista has been moved to Smackdown, and Cena is on RAW.

[U.S War Machine]

Correct me if i'm wrong if Batista is on smackdown now smackdown will have the World Heavy Weight championship!?

[The Ghoul]

Last night was in one of those moods where I decided Just for the hell of it, to just watch wrestling. No analysing, just get into like a kid again (Granted Smackdown wasn't the best choice for that but whatever I was just in that mood) & while I was watching the segment with Melina & thought "I actually feel bad for them, It's almost as if they really believe these people are coming to see them." I forgot for a second that they were just acting poorly & thought "Wow! They really think people like Tom Cruise, Paris Hilton & Jessica Simpson actually give a **** about wrestling." Then I snapped out of it & realised that it was not only just a gimmick but a very bad one at that. (no real purpose I just thought I would share an amusing anecdote)


Also, I think the whole with Eddie is not only dumb but kind of predictable. I mean it's obvious they're not going with a molestation angle because 1. they would lose every sponsor they have & at this time when they are about to lose 10,000,000$ that isn't a smart move. 2. It wouldn't make sence if Eddie is refering to "the truth" about Eddie & Rey angle that is also around. So my prediction is that (bare with me it may get complicated) Eddie tells a story about how Rey is always taking things from him. & then says that a long time ago when Eddie's wife divorced him (correct me if I am wrong but during his drug problem his wife divorced him & they got back together.) He had a fling with Rey's now wife & Dominique is actually Eddie's son. I know this is a horrible story but tell me that they won't go that route. Honestly I think a better way to do this is to rewind & when Eddie was being interviewed about why he was smiling have him act totally different than we've seen over the past month or so. Have him be like "Because Rey is familia & I'm just proud of him holmes. Can't a gy be proud that his friend got the upper hand holmes. O' dely vato loco essay." & then they turn the disgruntled sociopath Eddie into the split personality Eddie.

[John Constantine]

But that would be too smart.....and the WWE has to continually try and "shock" viewers. Hence the Katie Vick angle or Kurt Angle wanting animal sex.....

[John Constantine]

So now I guess the WWE championship belt is the #1 belt in the company since Batista has been moved to Smackdown, and Cena is on RAW.

It's about time though. Now all of the WWE titles are on one show while the WCW titles are on another show :)

[Lobo]

And Cena's came directly from the undisputed title, and the WCW belt was brought back by Bishoff and just given to HHH :(

[Sabretooth]

MNM is so friggin stale.They need to go back to Velocity where no one has to watch them.And why the **** do talentless ****s like Jindrak,Chavo,Suzuki and Basham get traded,and yet people like Haas stay on SD! where they actually NEED to be drafted?Can't wait to see those draft picks crash and burn.

And 3dman,I hope you're joking.Because there's no way in hell people like HHH,Edge,and Lita are going to be released when they're putting asses in the seats.

[Duende Verde]

why the **** do talentless ****s like Jindrak,Chavo,Suzuki and Basham get traded,and yet people like Haas stay on SD!

They need jobbers

[Sabretooth]

Like they don't have enough.

[DOG LIPS]

Wasn't Nitro from MNM in a storyline last year that he was Bischoff's cousin, or nephew or something like that? He was Johnny Nitro or something?

[Sabretooth]

He was his assistant or something.

[DOG LIPS]

Well, whatever the hell he was he should have stayed there. :mad:

[John Constantine]

MNM is so friggin stale.They need to go back to Velocity where no one has to watch them.And why the **** do talentless ****s like Jindrak,Chavo,Suzuki and Basham get traded,and yet people like Haas stay on SD! where they actually NEED to be drafted?Can't wait to see those draft picks crash and burn.


I honestly don't know why they flip-flopped Dupree and Grenier. They should've moved Conway to SD instead and restarted the original La Resistance.

I'm also hoping with the move, they at least dump the Simon Dean gimmick, turn him back to Nova and reform the bWo. And hopefully they'll team up Kenzo Suzuki and Tajiri into a new Japanese tag team. Those are the only two things I want to see come out of this trade.

[Sabretooth]

MNM would be better if they didn't act like they know people like Hilton,Kutcher,etc. They're just too big of names for MNM to act like they indeed know them personally.WWE needs to quit acting like we're ****ing idiots and put a little more sense in their characters/storylines.

[Jason Blood]

the trade that was made, makes absolutely no sense at all

what were they thinking?

[Sabretooth]

And is anyone else sick of this Mexicools thing?It's only been two weeks and I can't stand it.They're quickly becoming the Chris Masters of SD!

[John Constantine]

the trade that was made, makes absolutely no sense at all

what were they thinking?

Absolutely no idea. They could've traded away 11 other wrestlers that would've made a bigger impact if traded.

Seriously, they must've been on drugs or something when they decided to go ahead with this trade. Why trade Chavo when he could do much more in the CW division? Why not just move Rey to Raw? Why move Grenier when the "feud" between him and Conway isn't finished yet?

God! :mad: :(

[John Constantine]

And is anyone else sick of this Mexicools thing?It's only been two weeks and I can't stand it.They're quickly becoming the Chris Masters of SD!

I'm actually digging them. They're entertaining :o

I would've loved it though if they started a feud with London/Chavo/Akio. But that can't happen now can it? :mad: :(

[Sabretooth]

I wanted Kane to SD! so bad.I don't wanna wait another year :(

[Sabretooth]

I'm actually digging them. They're entertaining :o

I would've loved it though if they started a feud with London/Chavo/Akio. But that can't happen now can it? :mad: :(
Still,it's like they needed someone to replace Carlito and the ''Cool'' gimmick.Maybe I'd find it more entertaining if they would actually ****ing wrestle.Can't understand **** that comes out of their mouths either :(

[John Constantine]

Why would they want to move Kane? After-all, they've got to embarrass him more in his feud with Edge....I wonder what stupid-ass gimmick they'll attach to that feud next...:rolleyes:

[John Constantine]

Still,it's like they needed someone to replace Carlito and the ''Cool'' gimmick.Maybe I'd find it more entertaining if they would actually ****ing wrestle.Can't understand **** that comes out of their mouths either :(

I think that's kind of the point ;)

With the number of cruiserweights SD has, it might be the hilight of the program...that's if they actually allow the champion to finish one match without somebody interfering in it :mad:

[Sabretooth]

Why would they want to move Kane? After-all, they've got to embarrass him more in his feud with Edge....I wonder what stupid-ass gimmick they'll attach to that feud next...:rolleyes:
At the beginning of their fued,I kept having this odd image in my head of Kane sitting down in the back,pissed that Lita cheated on him.And then,Gene Snitsky comes up,puts his hand on Kane's shoulder and says,''Don't worry Kane,IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT!'' ;)

[John Constantine]

At the beginning of their fued,I kept having this odd image in my head of Kane sitting down in the back,pissed that Lita cheated on him.And then,Gene Snitsky comes up,puts his hand on Kane's shoulder and says,''Don't worry Kane,IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT!'' ;)

Oh god, I can even see that happening.....I mean they have done worse with his character...:(

I mean what is Kane now? An impotent necrophiliac who can't drive stick? Talk about flushing a character down the toilet....:(

[Donnie Darko]

MNM is so friggin stale.They need to go back to Velocity where no one has to watch them.And why the **** do talentless ****s like Jindrak,Chavo,Suzuki and Basham get traded,and yet people like Haas stay on SD! where they actually NEED to be drafted?Can't wait to see those draft picks crash and burn.

As far as Jindrak goes, he could be doing GREAT things if they kept him and O'Haire together.

[The Ghoul]

MNM is so friggin stale.They need to go back to Velocity where no one has to watch them.And why the **** do talentless ****s like Jindrak,Chavo,Suzuki and Basham get traded,and yet people like Haas stay on SD! where they actually NEED to be drafted?Can't wait to see those draft picks crash and burn.

Jindrak, Chavo & Kenzo arn't talentless. Granted watching a Jindrak singles match is as entertaning as a bag of rocks. That doesn't mean he has no ability; & I think Kenzo is the ****. This also gives Hiroko a chance to show her actual ability as well. Seriously I think when Kenzo is all better they should put him in with Carlito & have him go for the IC belt.

[3dman27]

MNM is so friggin stale.They need to go back to Velocity where no one has to watch them.And why the **** do talentless ****s like Jindrak,Chavo,Suzuki and Basham get traded,and yet people like Haas stay on SD! where they actually NEED to be drafted?Can't wait to see those draft picks crash and burn.

And 3dman,I hope you're joking.Because there's no way in hell people like HHH,Edge,and Lita are going to be released when they're putting asses in the seats.
i'm not joking actually

[Metamorpho1977]

Shocking 11-Person Trade Between RAW & SD! Confirmed
Story By: Matthew Boone
The following is from WWE.com:

WWE.com has learned that RAW General Manager Eric Bischoff
and SmackDown! General Manager Theodore Long have agreed on
a blockbuster 11-person deal that will likely have a big
impact on both rosters.

RAW brand gets:

Mark Jindrak: Former WCW Tag Team Champion
Rene Dupree: Former WWE Tag Team Champion; former World Tag
Team Champion
Danny Basham: Two-time former WWE Tag Team Champion
Kenzo Suzuki (with Hiroko): Former WWE Tag Team Champion
Chavo Guerrero: Five-time former Cruiserweight Champion;
two-time former WWE Tag Team Champion

SmackDown! brand gets:

William Regal: Four-time former WCW Television Champion;
three-time former Hardcore Champion; four-time former
European Champion; former Intercontinental Champion;
four-time former World Tag Team Champion
Candice: 2004 RAW Diva Search contestant
Sylvain Grenier: Four-time former World Tag Team Champion
Simon Dean: Former RAW sponsor
Steven Richards: Former two-time ECW Tag Team Champion;
former 21-time Hardcore Champion Watch RAW on Monday
(9/8CT; Spike TV) for more on this trade.


looks like WWE may be beefing up the Tag Team division on Raw.

Heyman To TNA?; TNA Name-Change, Another SpikeTV Update
Story By: Matthew Boone
Credit: PWTorch.com

There has been some people both in TNA and inside the cable
industry suggesting that a name change take place with the
company before signing a deal with Spike TV. Many feel those
in the advertising industry will get scared away by the
"TNA" name given its rather obvious sound when saying it out
loud. However, it should be noted that it would be a rather
long process trademark wise to change everything and could
be a hassle they don't want to deal with. Again, this is
just a rumor so take it for what it is worth.

If TNA does end up signing a TV deal with Spike TV to start
this October, it doesn't appear Spike has any plans to
promote the show at this time during WWE programming, or
more specifically during RAW. This could change once an
announcement is made between both parties. With WWE
programming leaving at the end of September, Spike will
continue to push other top shows on the network such as the
CSI series and season two of The Ultimate Fighter series.

It is interesting to note that Paul Heyman has not signed a
new deal with WWE and his future with the company appears to
be in doubt. TNA's Dixie Carter is aware of who Heyman is,
despite her somewhat lack of knowledge in the wrestling
business, and understands how Heyman was able to take a
promotion with little to no money and make it into one of
the "big three" promotions at one time being ECW. Heyman
did make a comment on the WWE.com Byte This program a few
days before the ECW One Night Stand PPV that he would like
to explore other options outside of WWE and noted that
"this place could use some competition."

[The Techno Bat]

Yeah, I thought so too. Most of the people in the trade baffle me. Like why is Chavo on Raw now? What can he do on that show? He would've been better off sticking around on SD and teaming up with London to fight the Mexicools....

I think that Smackdown should have all the cruiserweight on it. Move The Hurricane & Tajiri there and it will definately help the CW title. But Vince's ego won't allow it.

I agree Chavo really has nothing to offer on Raw. Who is he going to fight? Or better yet get beat by each and every week? Kane? HHH? Snitsky? The Big Show?

Maybe he can be put into a good program with Shelton or Chris Jericho

[Lobo]

I mentioned awhile back that I wanted a Chavo/Shelton feud I'm glad he's on Raw.

[Sabretooth]

Hmmm.supposedly Brock Lesnar may return around WM 22

[Lobo]

Lesnar vs Batista?

[White_Howling]

Lesnar vs Batista?


yeppie two big dumb animals in the ring again..

god the worst match in history.. lesnar vs goldberg

[Pink Ranger]

Lesnar was a pretty good athlete in the ring, especially for a big guy (he did cripple Bob Holly once, but so did Kurt Angle. To paraphrase Marge Simpson: "It's just a $50 fine now!". Very few workers could carry Bill Goldberg to a decent-looking match. I don't think even Chris Benoit could get a good match from Goldberg.

If Lesnar and Batista get into the ring together, they could sponge the mat and get enough steroids from the sweat to power a train.

[Benji252]

Any spoilers for next week?

[John Constantine]

I think that Smackdown should have all the cruiserweight on it. Move The Hurricane & Tajiri there and it will definately help the CW title. But Vince's ego won't allow it.

I agree Chavo really has nothing to offer on Raw. Who is he going to fight? Or better yet get beat by each and every week? Kane? HHH? Snitsky? The Big Show?

Maybe he can be put into a good program with Shelton or Chris Jericho

Or even with the Hurricane. But honestly, Chavo is so wasted on Raw.

Guess I know who will be the main jobber on that show now :rolleyes: :mad: :(

[John Constantine]

Hmmm.supposedly Brock Lesnar may return around WM 22

Not surprised there. There was no way he was not gonna come back the way he was backed into a corner....

[U.S War Machine]

Yes plus he's havin a good time playin football for the M-Vikings

[Jason Blood]

Yes plus he's havin a good time playin football for the M-Vikings

hahaha, good one

[Donnie Darko]

Talk all the junk about Lesnar you want (most of it is probably well-deserved), but Lesnar-Angle at WM 19 (I believe it was 19) was a spectacular match.

[U.S War Machine]

Yes it was! even though Lesnar had a pretty scary injury that happened to his neck, after the shooting star splash.

[Sabretooth]

Honestly,SD! went down quite a bit when he left.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but that's because the WWE were building up Lesner to be the number 1 heel on that show, then he up and left for the NFL right then. It also didn't help that Angle was injured at the time and JBL was just starting off as their main heel.

That's probably why Lesner was a bit afraid to return to the WWE after being released by the Vikings, the WWE might hold a grudge against him. But because he has that no-compete clause in his contract until like 2010, it's not like he has a choice anymore....

[Metamorpho1977]

I live in Atlanta near the Power Plant. It was WCW's old school for future wrestlers, I remember when Big Show was training there. I used to go in and watch them all the time. The most impressive thing I ever saw was Big Show's moonsault. Some may think I'm bsing, but I saw it, and that's something that really sticks out in your mind.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, but that's because the WWE were building up Lesner to be the number 1 heel on that show, then he up and left for the NFL right then. It also didn't help that Angle was injured at the time and JBL was just starting off as their main heel.

That's probably why Lesner was a bit afraid to return to the WWE after being released by the Vikings, the WWE might hold a grudge against him. But because he has that no-compete clause in his contract until like 2010, it's not like he has a choice anymore....
I remember people on the internet holding a huge grudge against Lesnar because he was to feud with Undertaker after WM 20,but since he left,people thought he was the reason Undertaker wasn't on for like 3 months :D

[3dman27]

I live in Atlanta near the Power Plant. It was WCW's old school for future wrestlers, I remember when Big Show was training there. I used to go in and watch them all the time. The most impressive thing I ever saw was Big Show's moonsault. Some may think I'm bsing, but I saw it, and that's something that really sticks out in your mind.
a moonsualt fromTHE BIG SHOW no offense man but thats hard to picture

[3dman27]

i just checked the wwe's listings for tonights heat
NO MATCHES just a recap show they're going the route of BOTTOM LINE/AFTERBURN here just recappingthe major shows events .
bah thats no good, heats a WRESTLING SHOW NOTa recap show if the aren't going to give us exicting matches they may as well save their money [once they move back to usa network they'll need it]and CANCELL HEAT

[Spider-Nerd]

i just checked the wwe's listings for tonights heat
NO MATCHES just a recap show they're going the route of BOTTOM LINE/AFTERBURN here just recappingthe major shows events .
bah thats no good, heats a WRESTLING SHOW NOTa recap show if the aren't going to give us exicting matches they may as well save their money [once they move back to usa network they'll need it]and CANCELL HEAT
It's only because this week was a Raw and smackdown supershow.

[Hunter Rider]

Well the draft is done and SD is still in tatters IMO,the fact that the last 2 pics for the show were badly chosen has really left the show in limbo,I mean CC now has to move away from his feud with Cena and it looks like a JBL vs Batista is gonna be the main feud,boring and predictable
the lack of faces is gonna kill the show
Guess HHH got his own way,now we can look forward to a Cena/HHH feud.....well done WWE:rolleyes: :( :down

[Lobo]

Well the draft is done and SD is still in tatters IMO,the fact that the last 2 pics for the show were badly chosen has really left the show in limbo,I mean CC now has to move away from his feud with Cena and it looks like a JBL vs Batista is gonna be the main feud,boring and predictable
the lack of faces is gonna kill the show
Guess HHH got his own way,now we can look forward to a Cena/HHH feud.....well done WWE:rolleyes: :( :down


Hopefully they'll let him continue his feud with Jericho. HHH lost to batista 3 times and lost to Benoit in the gold rush tournament, I wonder what the rationale behind making him #1 contender for Cena's belt wil be? Maybe He'll just demand it like when Jericho beat him and HHH made the ref give it back because he said so :(

[Sabretooth]

The thing that's bad about SD! is that JBL is ALWAYS in the title picture.If he doesn't have it around his waist,he's always the No. 1 Contender. And as much as people rag on HHH,he doesn't go jumping people for what they think about him like JBL did to Meanie.

[John Constantine]

JBL may be the number 1 contender now, but once Orton is healthy and finished with his feud with Undertaker, he might be back in the title picture. I mean Orton still has "unfinished business" with Batista.....

[John Constantine]

a moonsualt fromTHE BIG SHOW no offense man but thats hard to picture

No, it's actually true. I've heard about Big Show doing the moonsault back in his WCW days. But then again he was a lot thinner back then.....

[Lobo]

I've seen Big Show do a Monnsault it was in a match with DDP. DDP moved but it was definitely something to see.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, it's too bad Big Show can't do that anymore......he's gotten way too fat. I remembre when he first debuted on WCW, he was one thin mother****er :up:

[Sabretooth]

I think he has some sort of disorder or something,so that's why he got fat.Still,he's one big mother****er.Too bad he bores me to death.

[John Constantine]

The thing is, Big show can be an entertaining character. You see him on tv shows, and movies and talk shows , he can be very charismatic. It's too bad the WWE never lets him act like himself.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah.You see him on Conan O'Brien all the time.Sounds like a great guy.But when he's heel,they had people squash him.And when he's face,well,look at him nowadays :(

[Archangel]

I think I said this before in here, but i'll say it again; If they want to make Big Show a GOOD face, make him funny. Like back when he'd come out dressed like different wrestlers and such, that was good ****.

Make him comedic on the mic, but not in the ring and they'd have a damn likable character, for me at least.

[Jason Blood]

I only really liked Big Show when he beat Brock Lesnar

[U.S War Machine]

I remember one match In the WCW where DDP did the diamond cutter to Big Show off the top ropes.

[Jason Blood]

Hogan needs to join the damn Hair Club

his bald spot is so ****ing huge

[hotrain33]

I to believe that JBL is also getting way to much exposure. He just had a shot at the world title back in may. How long will it be before someone else on the sd roster gets a chance to be champion. JBL is just like triple h and maybe even worse.

[brainchild81]

Doubtful

[Sabretooth]

I can really see Edge vs. Cena at Summerslam...

[3dman27]

any idea whats gonna happen tonight?

[Sabretooth]

HHH returns and *****es about how Batista went to SD!,and then him and Angle start a feud ;)

[3dman27]

any thing about the lilian- viscera situation will she have to wrestle someone to get her job back[for a SECOND TIME]?

[Sabretooth]

:confused: I don't know...

[U.S War Machine]

HHH returns and *****es about how Batista went to SD!,and then him and Angle start a feud ;)Ah yes Angle and Triple H a classic rivalry, good times

[John Constantine]

I'm hoping the Triple H-Angle feud lasts for the better part of the year. After-all, that keeps Trips out of the title picture for a little while, and it allows those two to actually feud with each other because their last feud ended a bit prematurely.....

And this will then allow Cena to feud with the likes of Jericho, Edge, and maybe even Carlito :o

[Twitch]

I finally have that new 80's DVD.......its awesome :o:up:

[Jason Blood]

well, there are no announced matches for RAW, but we do know that Hogan will be on the Cabana

Dupree might do something with Rob Conway (hopefully)

also if Kenzo premieres on Raw, I'll go insane

[Super Kal]

by the way, what ever happened to Zach Gowen and Daniel Puder?

[Jason Blood]

by the way, what ever happened to Zach Gowen and Daniel Puder?


Released (now in TNA) and OVW'd

[John Constantine]

well, there are no announced matches for RAW, but we do know that Hogan will be on the Cabana

Dupree might do something with Rob Conway (hopefully)

also if Kenzo premieres on Raw, I'll go insane

A Dupree-Conway feud might be interesting. And it could be possible what with this being the fourth of July and all that. Maybe this restores Conway's American pride? :confused:

How about Sylvain Grenier though. Is there anyway he is not gonna be a Velocity jobber by next week?

[Super Kal]

aw man, I was looking forward to Daniel Puder kickin some @ss... oh well

[Jason Blood]

I dunno, but Conway and Dinsmore have been buried by their gimmicks

well Dinsmore's injury really buried him

I hope to god they just cut his hair and NEVER mention "Eugene" again

[John Constantine]

YOu have to admit though, Dinsmore as Eugene was super-over when he first debuted. But he got shoved down our throats too fast and people got sick of him.

But if he just goes as Nick Dinsmore from now on, Eugene chants could get him some awesome heel heat.

[Sabretooth]

I remember laughing my ass off when HHH turned on Eugene.God I've never liked HHH as much as I did when he turned on him :D

[Jason Blood]

They better not do some sort of split personality stuff

that would be such BS

[Sabretooth]

The Eugene character just needs to die.People were booing him in his match with HHH that time.And you KNOW you suck when you're getting booed instead of HHH :(

[Jason Blood]

HAHAHA

The Highlight Reel will feature Cena while Carlito's Cabana will feature Huk Hogan

[Sabretooth]

I don't like the Cabana's new insignia :(

[Jason Blood]

I didn't pay much attention to the old one, so I'm for it I guess

[Jason Blood]

damn, the clip from Hogan's show was lame

I do have to admit that he has a point about his daughter and that guy, being 6 years older than her

[Sabretooth]

Damn,his daughter going out with a 22 year old and she's only 16

[Sabretooth]

damn, the clip from Hogan's show was lame

I do have to admit that he has a point about his daughter and that guy, being 6 years older than her
Don't know why he asked him the AIDS thing,don't you'd think he'd tell the daughter,or just wear a condom if they do the dew?

[Jason Blood]

Don't know why he asked him the AIDS thing,don't you'd think he'd tell the daughter,or just wear a condom if they do the dew?
it's a reality show

they probably told him to say stuff like that

[Sabretooth]

Dammit,they're gonna turn Kurt into a perv again :mad:

[Jason Blood]

Dammit,they're gonna turn Kurt into a perv again :mad:
I'm sure it's a one-shot heel reaction thing

[Jason Blood]

Spike just played a UFC commercial and TOTALLY dissed wrestling

they're breaking kayfabe!

EDIT

OH MY GOD, WHAT DID THEY DO TO CHAVO?!!?

[Sabretooth]

Captain America's sheild? Cena gets cornier with every week


and yeah,now I see why Chavo's on Raw.They had to crap on him :(

[Twitch]

Did they make him shave the head... I couldn't recognize at first...

[Jason Blood]

****, THAT WAS ONE AWESOME SUMMERSLAM COMMERCIAL :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Sabretooth]

I chuckled quite a bit when Cena said ''these people ain't stupid.'' Hey,most of them cheer Cena only because he kisses ass.

[Jason Blood]

it's time for SGT. Slaughter to job to the divas :(

[Sabretooth]

Hahaha one girl slipped :D

[Jason Blood]

Hahaha one girl slipped :D
I know:D:D

[Sabretooth]

Ashley's ****ing hot

[Sabretooth]

Holy ****! I Just Won A Bet For That Nip Slip! **** Yes!

[Jason Blood]

one girl had a "slip":D

[Sabretooth]

A damn nice one too

[Jason Blood]

Holy ****! I Just Won A Bet For That Nip Slip! **** Yes!

the same thought crossed my mind

Nice:D

[Sabretooth]

I knew,I just ****ing KNEW someone's nipple would slip.I love myself sometimes

[Jason Blood]

I hope this next one slips

[Jason Blood]

I knew,I just ****ing KNEW someone's nipple would slip.I love myself sometimes


Ewwwwww

[Sabretooth]

I thought Ashley's would slip,considering I like her the most.But noooo :(

But oh well,I just won 20 bucks so it don't matter

[Sabretooth]

You know what would be funny?Is if the girl who's nip slipped was also the girl who fell on her ass :D

[Jason Blood]

The girl that fell is the one that has immunity right?

that sucks ass

[Jager X]

godammit i missed it.i finally get into the **** only to have my mom distract me at the exact moment of the slip then when i turned my head she was covered by a towel.

[Jason Blood]

Alexis is my favorite

she reminds me of Melina in a way

I love how Melina does her hair in that 50's thing, as it's HOT

[Sabretooth]

Whoa WTF happened to Dupree?

[Jason Blood]

Dupree looks lame with that facial hair

[Sabretooth]

Alexis is my favorite

she reminds me of Melina in a way

I love how Melina does her hair in that 50's thing, as it's HOT
Her boobs get bigger everytime I see her.

[Sabretooth]

Dupree looks lame with that facial hair
He needs to go back to his old hair do,he looks way too different now

[Jason Blood]

that match SUCKED!

Dupree didn't even do his Dupree Driver

Also Dupree molested Val

[Jason Blood]

I missed the HHH segment

what happened?

[John Constantine]

Captain America's sheild? Cena gets cornier with every week


and yeah,now I see why Chavo's on Raw.They had to crap on him :(

This "Kerwin White" is the lamest thing since they turned Booker T into GI Bro :rolleyes: :mad:

[Jason Blood]

Dupree returns and Conway's nowhere in sight

Huh?

[Go Web Go!]

Woooah. HBK heel turn. Didn't see that one coming.

[Sabretooth]

Holy **** that was suprising.I thought HBK said he wouldn't turn heel....

[The Techno Bat]

I didn't see HBK turning either. But it's a breath of fresh air. It will probably be something like HBK is the show stopper and doesn't play second fiddle to anybody even a Hulk Hogan. Besides it will make for a must see match up when they finally battle it out at the next PPV...do they still do Summer Slam? Or has that come and gone already?

[John Constantine]

Raw on a whole was pretty bland until the ending. I honestly did not see HBK turning on Hogan as well. This sets up a whole new dynamic for him. He could even feud with Cena for the title in the future :up:

[Jason Blood]

HBK's Heel turn didn't make any sense at all...

[The Ghoul]

Raw was a series of up & downs. HBK's heel turn was very surprising considering that he turned the idea down a month ago because he didn't want to tarnish his born again image. I did notice that right when he kicked Hogan there were a couple of "You screwed Bret" chants. So I guess that Canada & Florida are the only places that do when he is face, but as soon as he turns heel everyone else jumps right on it. Leave it to Sgt. Slaughter to make a horrible 10-15 minutes & turn it into something just slightly below average. They should make them do more athletic stuff. Maybe we can actually get someone to wrestle before 6 months into their "God I am so ****ing lucky to have this" job. What the hell is up with Rene Dupree's Mick Mars mustache? Also during his promo his accent fell a little. Is he really French & just kinda slured causing him to sound different? Or is he not French & they are just going with it?

[John Constantine]

Yeah, not at the moment. I hope there's a good explanation for it.

I'm just glad to see a heel HBK though......

[Sabretooth]

Raw on a whole was pretty bland until the ending. I honestly did not see HBK turning on Hogan as well. This sets up a whole new dynamic for him. He could even feud with Cena for the title in the future :up:
That'd kick ass :up:

You know,I wonder if those rumors are true about HBK vs. Hogan at WM,though that's quite some time from now...

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, not at the moment. I hope there's a good explanation for it.

I'm just glad to see a heel HBK though......
Yeah,I thought I'd never see heel HBK again,but tonight was a pleasant suprise

[John Constantine]

That'd kick ass :up:

You know,I wonder if those rumors are true about HBK vs. Hogan at WM,though that's quite some time from now...

I think those two might fight around Summerslam to be honest. I've always heard a Hogan vs Austin match for WM. Hogan wants to fight Cena as well apparently.....:confused:

[John Constantine]

EDIT:Whoops double post :confused:


Uh.....might I say again that I totally hate Chavo's new gimmick? They took him off a feud with the Mexicools for this? :rolleyes: :mad:

[Sabretooth]

Mexicools are the Carlito of SD! as Chavo is now Hassan of Raw.I still can't believe what they've done to him.Poor guy.:(

[John Constantine]

Chavo is not really the Hassan of Raw. He's more like the new Akeem/One Man Gang of Raw.

But just imagine if they did this the other way. LIke say if they got Paul London to pretend he's hispanic. Believe me, there would be a ****load of complaints to the WWE....very odd.

[Sabretooth]

At first,when I saw Chavo with that green sweater on,I thought they were gonna pull a gay gimmick :(

And London would seriously suck if he got drafted because no more cruiserweight division.:(


And you know,it could've been worse.Hell Haas could've been drafted,said he couldn't accomplish anything because he's white,and that benjamin accomplished alot cause he's black,thus Haas becomes a ****** ;)

[John Constantine]

I don't really see this gimmick lasting long anyways. What a horrible, horrible gimmick. Honestly, this is pure wrestlecrap material.

[John Constantine]

And you know,it could've been worse.Hell Haas could've been drafted,said he couldn't accomplish anything because he was white,and that benjamin accomplished alot cause he was black,thus Haas becomes a ****** ;)

Yeah, or they could've painted Haas black ;)


Actually, I could see the WWE trying that :o

[Sabretooth]

I don't really see this gimmick lasting long anyways. What a horrible, horrible gimmick. Honestly, this is pure wrestlecrap material.

I thought the same thing about Viscera,but well....

[John Constantine]

Actually, it's different with Viscera. At least they're not trying to paint him white and make him out to be a white guy. He's the new Mark Henry/Sexual Chocolate/Barry White. It fits.

But turning a hispanic wrestler into Kerwin White or whatever he's called? Give me a ****ing break.....

[Sabretooth]

EDIT

[The Ghoul]

I am not going to ***** about "Kerwin White" because it is so bad there is no way it will last so I am going ignore it hope it goes away... Like all of my problems

[John Constantine]

No,I was referring to your post about the gimmick not lasting long.

Well I thought otherwise.....;)

I liked the new gimmick for Viscera. It made a lot of sense with him and it actually got him attention.

This gimmick for Chavo? It does nothing but make him a laughingstock.

[Jason Blood]

They had to get Chavo off of Smackdown to prevent him from being a mexican CW heel other than the Mexicools

[John Constantine]

They had to get Chavo off of Smackdown to prevent him from being a mexican CW heel other than the Mexicools

I thought with the past few weeks they were going to build up Chavo and London as a team to fight the Mexicools. Add Akio to that mix and you have a potentially good feud.


Much better than this crap he's currently in now.....

[Sabretooth]

Well I thought otherwise.....;)

I liked the new gimmick for Viscera. It made a lot of sense with him and it actually got him attention.

This gimmick for Chavo? It does nothing but make him a laughingstock.
This ain't a good time to be a Guerrero,with Chavo's race change,and Eddie the new MJ :(

[Jason Blood]

I know Ultimo is awesome and all, but I've gotta change my avatar

Mask de Smith rocks!

[John Constantine]

This ain't a good time to be a Guerrero,with Chavo's race change,and Eddie the new MJ :(

I wouldn't be surprised if they painted Eddie's face pure white now and had him speak at a higher pitched voice ...... :joker:

[Sabretooth]

I wouldn't be surprised if they painted Eddie's face pure white now and had him speak at a higher pitched voice ...... :joker:
Or if there's little kids sitting in his low rider that he drives to the ring :D

[The Ghoul]

I honestly think they are not going with a molestation angle. They would lose any sponser Smackdown had & they are going to lose 10,000,000$ real soon. There is no way Vince can look at this, look at the ratings, look at the budget & think that this story will save smackdown. Even Vince is not this dumb to let this go by. I posted my prediction a couple pages back, even though it is still a bad story I think closest to what it really is. I said that "the truth" that Eddie is talking about is that he is Domonique's real dad. A molestation angle has nothing to do with some secret that Rey & Eddie share. Nobdy has talked about "the truth" aspect of the story except me. telling Domonique "the truth" would make no sence if he was touching him.

[John Constantine]

But then again, they're turning a hispanic wrestler into a white guy named "Kerwin White" and Smackdown is on a channel that has a huge hispanic audience......

[The Ghoul]

Yeah, but turning one of their most recognizable & popular talents into a pedophile is a lot different than turning a mid-carder into different race for 2, 3 months tops. Even if this angle ends in a couple of weeks, it would be something that sticks with him for a while.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, I kinda doubt Eddie's a pedophile as well. I still don't like the "twist" that they added to this whole feud. They should've just finished the feud with Rey beating Eddie two weeks ago on Smackdown. Then have Rey beat OJ for the US title and have him be the focal point for that title and have Eddie work his way back to the main event picture.

But what do I know? I'm just a wrestling fan....

[The Ghoul]

HOLY ****!!!!! This is huge. I just read on prowrestling.com that during the SD! taping tonight (another supershow like last week I think because they are still in California & due to time zones they start raw at 6 end at 8 & do smack down from there) JBL faced Meanie tonight wiether it is a dark match or not I don't know the site just said they were going to do it tonight.

[GLfan]

******************WARNING SPOILER**********







Nothing really happened in the ring after Shawn Michaels' turn on Hulk Hogan:eek:

[John Constantine]

HOLY ****!!!!! This is huge. I just read on prowrestling.com that during the SD! taping tonight (another supershow like last week I think because they are still in California & due to time zones they start raw at 6 end at 8 & do smack down from there) JBL faced Meanie tonight wiether it is a dark match or not I don't know the site just said they were going to do it tonight.

I just read the spoilers...


Yeah, Blue Meanie and JBL fight each other on Smackdown. And not only that, but the bWo makes an appearance. Yes, the Simon Dean gimmick has been scrapped and he's now known as Nova again

[Sabretooth]

Damn,WWE's full of suprises this week.:up:

SD! Spoilers:
Chris Benoit beat Booker T by submission in a # 1 Contenders match for the US Championship. A pretty good back and forth match that saw Booker T tap out to the Crippler Crossface.

Steven Richards interfered with that match with meanie and Jbl and busted JBL open with a chair,then Batista costs him the matcha nd Meanie wins.Eddie has a match against MNM and needs a partner,so he asks Rey and if Rey refuses,Eddie will tell the secret.MNM win after a snapshot on Rey.

Undertaker will face Hassan for No.1 contender for the World Title at Great American Bash.Daivari has a match with Undertaker tonight,and Undertaker won.After his match,Hassan got on his knees and five men wearing black ski masks, black long sleeve shirts and tan cargo pants with camouflage stripes attacked the Undertaker. One hit him with a stick and then they took a wire and choked him out. Hassan entered the ring and applied the camel clutch before leaving.

Batista pinned Christian following a Batista Bomb. A good match that saw both men dominate at points. Christian gained the upper hand for quite some time before Batista exploded with a running powerslam and eventually hit a spinebuster and the sit out powerbomb.

[Jason Blood]

I was expecting something with the bWo when Simon Dean and Steven Richards were traded

[U.S War Machine]

Gosh! I can't read when it's like that, I have to high light it to read it!:hyper:

[Duende Verde]

Hahaha one girl slipped :D

I can't believe they posted the video in WWE.com :eek: (http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/494606/776704/796892/04leylabbc?view=wvx&speed=300&dynwvx=)

[The Ghoul]

Gosh! I can't read when it's like that, I have to high light it to read it!:hyper:

That's the point. it's for people who chose to read otherwise some people might get pissed for revealing information they may want to wait for instead being told before hand. Anyway, it seems like the draft is helping Smackdown! more than Raw. It seems that the matches this week are very good & make me actually want to watch instead of just watching it out of habit. I got to thinking though, if the bWo is on Smackdown! this week & they scrapped Simon Dean & made him Nova again & Stevie & Nova have been traded to Smackdown!... was the Meanie/JBL thing all a work. I want to say no, because of how long I have been a Meanie fan, but you never know. Also is this a one time thing or is the bWo here to stay?

[John Constantine]

Well...


I really hope the bWo is here to stay. They kinda match the blue ropes SD has ;) Besides, what else can Nova or Stevie Richards do anyways. The bWo might give them something to do and provide a bit of entertainment. I know I'll be waching SD this week just to see them. And as for Meanie/JBL, I don't think it was a work, I think it was just the WWE taking advantage of a real-life situation ala the Lita-Edge thing

[DOG LIPS]

Son of a beeyotch, why does Lita look so good all of the sudden? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

well i think i just gave up watching WWE,the HBK heel turn was the last straw,i mean one of the few guys truly over with actual talent who is now gonna have to wrestle a geriatric old fart at summerslam and then no doubt play ***** for that second rate all gimmick champion Cena,so ****ing dumb,i give up

[John Constantine]

At least TNA Impact is now available in a streaming format over on their website. That's actually become my fall-back option now :up:


And I kinda liked the HBK heel turn. It was one of the only things that kept Raw from being a totally unwatchable last night :o :(

[DOG LIPS]

I hope the bWo takes over and starts kicking everyone's ass on BOTH shows. :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

At least TNA Impact is now available in a streaming format over on their website. That's actually become my fall-back option now :up:


And I kinda liked the HBK heel turn. It was one of the only things that kept Raw from being a totally unwatchable last night :o :(

strange for me it just turned garbage into total garbage:(
I can't see myself sitting through crap fueuds like Batista and JBL or watching a guy like cena gimmick his way to the top,check this out

Credit: PWInsider.com Elite Hotline (http://www.pwinsider.com/)

Triple H has not appeared on RAW for the past two weeks. The plan right now is to have Edge vs. John Cena at SummerSlam and then bring back Triple H for an angle with John Cena. The plan as of right now, is to hopefully have Triple H help out John Cena in the same way that he did with Batista.



^^ Im not wasting money on that crap:down :mad:

[John Constantine]

I liked it because it was totally unexpected. Plus, HBK as a heel means that he might fight other face wrestlers - just imagine him in a full-on feud with Shelton Benjamin, or if they actually decide to go ahead with a RVD-HBK ladder match like Shawn wanted in the first place. I liked him as a face, but honestly, who else could he fight on Raw as a face?

Triple H-Cena might be interesting if they had Cena go over. Which I could see happening because the WWE really wants him to be the new Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin/Rock. And that's basically what they're trying to do with Cena. The WWE's always had a John Cena, if he's gone, they'll just find another OVW wrestler to whore out all their products....

[Sabretooth]

well i think i just gave up watching WWE,the HBK heel turn was the last straw,i mean one of the few guys truly over with actual talent who is now gonna have to wrestle a geriatric old fart at summerslam and then no doubt play ***** for that second rate all gimmick champion Cena,so ****ing dumb,i give up
I doubt HBK would become Cena's *****.Cena does that,but I mean,this HBK,arguably the greatest wrestler alive.Now way they'd have him sell out to someone as undeserving as Cena.

Oh,and watch the ''You screwed Bret'' chants come flying now that he's heel ;)

[Sabretooth]

Is it me,or has there been some serious heel turns in last few months?Eddie,Lita,Victoria,and now Shawn.Not that I'm complaining,but damn:up:

And honestly,Shawn was boring me as a face.He sorta needed to turn heel.At first when Shawn superkicked Hulk,I was like''Damn,I guess Shawn really wanted to pose for the third side of the crowd'' :D

[John Constantine]

The only thing I'm afraid of is that Raw is really running out of faces. The only guys who are "major" faces on that show now is Cena, Kane, Big Show, RVD, Shelton Benjamin....


.......

That's about it really...:confused: :(

[The Batman]

Its the whole born again christian thing. I mean, I'm glad he's found god and a family of his own, but its taken alot out of his character. Old School Shawn, Heel or Face, was the coolest "Egotistical guy" Gimmick, EVER.


and hey! Smackdown actually sounds GOOD this week.

[Holly Goodhead]

jack loves buff sweaty half naked men throwing each other around.

[John Constantine]

Its the whole born again christian thing. I mean, I'm glad he's found god and a family of his own, but its taken alot out of his character. Old School Shawn, Heel or Face, was the coolest "Egotistical guy" Gimmick, EVER.


and hey! Smackdown actually sounds GOOD this week.

Hey anything with The bWo means it's gonna be good :up:

[John Constantine]

jack loves buff sweaty half naked men throwing each other around.

Mark Jindrak sucks.

[The Batman]

The only thing I'm afraid of is that Raw is really running out of faces. The only guys who are "major" faces on that show now is Cena, Kane, Big Show, RVD, Shelton Benjamin....


.......

That's about it really...:confused: :(


Yeah, I'm kinda worried too. Also, I doubt WWE will do anything to push guys like Kane, Benjamin, and RVD to a higher level....

[Jason Blood]

If you go on the TNA message boards, you can download Impact in WMV format

[The Ghoul]

Oh,and watch the ''You screwed Bret'' chants come flying now that he's heel ;)

I said that earlier. I know they have always done it in Canada & when Raw came to my town in Florida back in January a couple people in the front row (myself & my friend Max included) were chanting it. It was during a promo with him & Edge & while he was talking he got interupted by 8 or 9 of us in the front row screaming "You screwed Bret." & he said to Edge "looks like some of your Canadian reletives are here to see you." I thought it was funny.