Wrestling

[The Batman]

Hey anything with The bWo means it's gonna be good :up:

I dont really know who they are. i know Nova and Richards, but i dont know why bWo is so popular.

Oh yeah folks...did anyone go to IGN yet? it has a preview of Smackdown VS Raw....

[The Ghoul]

Oh,and watch the ''You screwed Bret'' chants come flying now that he's heel ;)

I said that earlier. I know they have always done it in Canada & when Raw came to my town in Florida back in January a couple people in the front row (myself & my friend Max included) were chanting it. It was during a promo with him & Edge & while he was talking he got interupted by 8 or 9 of us in the front row screaming "You screwed Bret." & he said to Edge "looks like some of your Canadian reletives are here to see you." I thought it was funny.

[John Constantine]

I dont really know who they are. i know Nova and Richards, but i dont know why bWo is so popular.

Oh yeah folks...did anyone go to IGN yet? it has a preview of Smackdown VS Raw....

It's basically the nWo...but a parody. I mean how can you go wrong with Stevie Richards as Big Stevie Cool, Nova as Hollywood Nova, and the Blue Meanie as Da Blue Guy.

THat's much better than reviving the nWo for the 1000000000000000000th time :up:

[The Batman]

hahhahahahahahahahahahaha....

I cant wait to see this....

[The Ghoul]

I dont really know who they are. i know Nova and Richards, but i dont know why bWo is so popular.

Oh yeah folks...did anyone go to IGN yet? it has a preview of Smackdown VS Raw....

Back in late 96 & early 97 in ECW, Stevie Richards & the Blue Meanie who were becoming a very popular tag team started parodyingother famous wrestlers. (the came out as the blue bloods & were Lord Stevie & Sir Meanie. They came out as Public Enemy & were Stevie Rock & Meanie Grunge...ect. & don't remember this but I saw on the Rise & Fall of ECW They had Nova Stevie & Meanie & someone else I can't tell who, being KISS) Well the last one they did (it was only the last one because it caught on like wild fire so they just went with it) They came out as the bWo. Then after Stevie went to WCW the bWo turned into the original J.O.B. Squad with Nova Meanie & Al Snow.

[Lobo]

I should of watched Raw :( HBK is a heel great, now Cena can feud with him and Jericho before HHH wins "his" belt back. Maybe HHH will stay off Raw for a while (well I can pray anyway) Did HHH do anything this Monday? Chavo changed his name to Kerwin White WTF? I was looking forward to a Chavo/Shelton feud.

[DOG LIPS]

Chavo had SO much potential going to RAW. That's horrible what they've done to him.

R.I.P. Chavo. :(

[Hunter Rider]

I liked it because it was totally unexpected. Plus, HBK as a heel means that he might fight other face wrestlers - just imagine him in a full-on feud with Shelton Benjamin, or if they actually decide to go ahead with a RVD-HBK ladder match like Shawn wanted in the first place. I liked him as a face, but honestly, who else could he fight on Raw as a face?

Triple H-Cena might be interesting if they had Cena go over. Which I could see happening because the WWE really wants him to be the new Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin/Rock. And that's basically what they're trying to do with Cena. The WWE's always had a John Cena, if he's gone, they'll just find another OVW wrestler to whore out all their products....

The thing is Shelto Benjamin has no mic skills so they'll never push him and theyve signaled there intentions with RVD after his crap return on the cabana against another guy with a belt he doesn't deserve,The thing with Cena is he's crap,the 3 you mentioned were all good at what they did in their prime's,Cena is just a dumbass gimmick that HBK,Y2J and HHH are gonna have to whore their career's out to.
we have 4 champions in WWE and not one of them worth 2 craps

[Twitch]

I dont really know who they are. i know Nova and Richards, but i dont know why bWo is so popular.

Oh yeah folks...did anyone go to IGN yet? it has a preview of Smackdown VS Raw....

The game sounds real good...

[John Constantine]

The thing is Shelto Benjamin has no mic skills so they'll never push him and theyve signaled there intentions with RVD after his crap return on the cabana against another guy with a belt he doesn't deserve,The thing with Cena is he's crap,the 3 you mentioned were all good at what they did in their prime's,Cena is just a dumbass gimmick that HBK,Y2J and HHH are gonna have to whore their career's out to.
we have 4 champions in WWE and not one of them worth 2 craps

I actually didn't think RVD's return on the Cabana was that crappy. They finally let RVD speak his mind, plus they set up a potential feud with Carlito for the IC title in the near future. And with Benjamin, a feud with Shawn could do wonders for him. He could use Shawn to showcase what he can really do while letting Shawn do the majority of the speaking.

As crappy and lame as Cena is (I have to admit, I don't really like his gimmick right now, give me his old heel rapper gimmick), he is over with the crowds and his stuff sells. And really....was the Hulkster any dumber of a gimmick than Cena's current gimmick? Wasn't it even worse that more talented wrestlers like Macho Man and Ted Dibiase had to continually job and be made to look like fools in front of Hogan? It's sad, but the WWE's always done **** like this. It's never going to stop.....

[Hunter Rider]

I actually didn't think RVD's return on the Cabana was that crappy. They finally let RVD speak his mind, plus they set up a potential feud with Carlito for the IC title in the near future. And with Benjamin, a feud with Shawn could do wonders for him. He could use Shawn to showcase what he can really do while letting Shawn do the majority of the speaking.

As crappy and lame as Cena is (I have to admit, I don't really like his gimmick right now, give me his old heel rapper gimmick), he is over with the crowds and his stuff sells. And really....was the Hulkster any dumber of a gimmick than Cena's current gimmick? Wasn't it even worse that more talented wrestlers like Macho Man and Ted Dibiase had to continually job and be made to look like fools in front of Hogan? It's sad, but the WWE's always done **** like this. It's never going to stop.....

That was what bothered me about the cabana,Carlito is nothing,he hasnt shown one good in ring performance in his entire time in WWE and now RVD has to carry his ass in yet another IC feud,RVD has been IC champ nigh on 5 times it's a waste of his talent,As for Cena my beef is he's crap in the ring,the crowd were bigger marks when Hogans lame gimmick was around but i though they'd goten smarter to a point,i mean Rock was extremely talented and austin whilst not my favourite was a force of nature,the prospect of a HBK/Hogan match makes me want to puke and the idea of building the show around a talentless plank like cena makes me want to stop watching altogether,the next year is set to feature Cena vs,Y2J,Edge and then HHH all those matches sound like utter garbage to me especially given the better wrestler will be doing the jobbing

[John Constantine]

That was what bothered me about the cabana,Carlito is nothing,he hasnt shown one good in ring performance in his entire time in WWE and now RVD has to carry his ass in yet another IC feud,RVD has been IC champ nigh on 5 times it's a waste of his talent,As for Cena my beef is he's crap in the ring,the crowd were bigger marks when Hogans lame gimmick was around but i though they'd goten smarter to a point,i mean Rock was extremely talented and austin whilst not my favourite was a force of nature,the prospect of a HBK/Hogan match makes me want puke and the idea of building the show around a talentless plank like cena makes me want to stop watching altogether,the next year is set to feature Cena vs,Y2J,Edge and then HHH all those matches sound like utter garbage to me especially given the better wrestler will be doing the jobbing

I think the only thing that Carlito has going for him is his charisma. That's partially one of the reasons why I like him really, he can talk circles around any wrestler. And I think the WWE really wants to put him against a more talented wrestler (RVD, Shelton) in the hopes that they might get a rub off on him......I really don't mind RVD as IC champion as well. As long as he's done right as IC champion. I mean he was the TV champion for like 2 years on ECW and he was over as hell at that moment. I think he could get over as hell if he was marketed properly as an IC champion.

Yeah, Cena is pretty ****ty in the ring, but then again, so was Hogan. I mean Hogan's matches are all the same, have a little offence, get beat up on by the heel, start his no-sell schtich, huge boot, then leg-drop and victory! And the sad thing is, despite all the *****ing that goes on by the internet community, this won't stop fans from cheering them on when they're watching the matches in an event. That's why Cena still gets cheers by the crowds and why they continue to market him as their number 1 face champion.

And I really wasn't surprised by an HBK-Hogan match. It seems like Hogan wants to fight every major WWE star before he actually retires.

What can I say about Cena fighting those guys though? The WWE will continue to pull this. If you really want to see somethign different though, try watching the TNA Impact shows online, that might offer a way different alternative to the WWE....

[Sabretooth]

I hate how Benoit's probably gonna become US material when he's so much more.He could be one of SD's main face,but we have to see JBL again.Oh well,at least HHH will be out for a while,so I won't have a double dose of the two.

[DOG LIPS]

I feel kind of sorry for Big Show, he went from main events on SD, to a weak-ass fued with Snitsky. :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

I think the only thing that Carlito has going for him is his charisma. That's partially one of the reasons why I like him really, he can talk circles around any wrestler. And I think the WWE really wants to put him against a more talented wrestler (RVD, Shelton) in the hopes that they might get a rub off on him......I really don't mind RVD as IC champion as well. As long as he's done right as IC champion. I mean he was the TV champion for like 2 years on ECW and he was over as hell at that moment. I think he could get over as hell if he was marketed properly as an IC champion.

Yeah, Cena is pretty ****ty in the ring, but then again, so was Hogan. I mean Hogan's matches are all the same, have a little offence, get beat up on by the heel, start his no-sell schtich, huge boot, then leg-drop and victory! And the sad thing is, despite all the *****ing that goes on by the internet community, this won't stop fans from cheering them on when they're watching the matches in an event. That's why Cena still gets cheers by the crowds and why they continue to market him as their number 1 face champion.

And I really wasn't surprised by an HBK-Hogan match. It seems like Hogan wants to fight every major WWE star before he actually retires.

What can I say about Cena fighting those guys though? The WWE will continue to pull this. If you really want to see somethign different though, try watching the TNA Impact shows online, that might offer a way different alternative to the WWE....At least Cena's not an ass like Hogan was ....yet.

[Hunter Rider]

I think the only thing that Carlito has going for him is his charisma. That's partially one of the reasons why I like him really, he can talk circles around any wrestler. And I think the WWE really wants to put him against a more talented wrestler (RVD, Shelton) in the hopes that they might get a rub off on him......I really don't mind RVD as IC champion as well. As long as he's done right as IC champion. I mean he was the TV champion for like 2 years on ECW and he was over as hell at that moment. I think he could get over as hell if he was marketed properly as an IC champion.

Yeah, Cena is pretty ****ty in the ring, but then again, so was Hogan. I mean Hogan's matches are all the same, have a little offence, get beat up on by the heel, start his no-sell schtich, huge boot, then leg-drop and victory! And the sad thing is, despite all the *****ing that goes on by the internet community, this won't stop fans from cheering them on when they're watching the matches in an event. That's why Cena still gets cheers by the crowds and why they continue to market him as their number 1 face champion.

And I really wasn't surprised by an HBK-Hogan match. It seems like Hogan wants to fight every major WWE star before he actually retires.

What can I say about Cena fighting those guys though? The WWE will continue to pull this. If you really want to see somethign different though, try watching the TNA Impact shows online, that might offer a way different alternative to the WWE....

The thing for me is find it pretty frustrating shelling out cash on a talentless hack like Cena when someone like RVD is languishing mid card,as for Hogan/HBK im not surprised just sadened that Shawn is gonna look like a total fool wrestling that old hasbeen,
As for whom Cena will fight your correct nothing can be said,WWE is a pimp and Cena their whore,You mention Hogan and yes his matches blew but ive become ascostmed to better matches since then especially with the likes of Rock,anyway WWE pretty much lost my cash after 15+ years they totaly ****ed up both shows line iups are garbage and there is no prospect of any good feuds

[Sabretooth]

I feel kind of sorry for Big Show, he went from main events on SD, to a weak-ass fued with Snitsky. :rolleyes:
That WASN'T his fault!:mad: :D

[John Constantine]

I hate how Benoit's probably gonna become US material when he's so much more.He could be one of SD's main face,but we have to see JBL again.Oh well,at least HHH will be out for a while,so I won't have a double dose of the two.

But with Benoit in the US title picture, he can help bring some legitimacy back into the title that has been totally ruined by Orlando Jordan holding the title - although that wasn't really OJ's fault. Who has Jordan feuded with for that title since winning it?

[Sabretooth]

There's TONS of other people who could help the US scene.Kidman,Haas,Christian,etc.

[John Constantine]

The thing for me is find it pretty frustrating shelling out cash on a talentless hack like Cena when someone like RVD is languishing mid card,as for Hogan/HBK im not surprised just sadened that Shawn is gonna look like a total fool wrestling that old hasbeen,
As for whom Cena will fight your correct nothing can be said,WWE is a pimp and Cena their whore,You mention Hogan and yes his matches blew but ive become ascostmed to better matches since then especially with the likes of Rock,anyway WWE pretty much lost my cash after 15+ years they totaly ****ed up both shows line iups are garbage and there is no prospect of any good feuds

Believe me, I hear you. I'm still pissed that RVD didn't become champion back in 2001 when he was the most super-over with the crowd. But do you know why he's champion and Cena isn't? Because RVD is an ECW-product and Cena is a home-grown WWE product. Simple as that.

But I don't really mind an HBK-Hogan match-up or a HBK heel turn only because I really, really, really want to see Shawn and RVD fight in a ladder match at WM 22. Just thinking about that kind of a match is enough for me to let Hogan have one victory against Shawn at Summerslam.

[John Constantine]

There's TONS of other people who could help the US scene.Kidman,Haas,Christian,etc.

Yeah, but a former champion fighting in the US division could also help as well. Look at AJ Styles. The guy switches between the heavyweight and X division frequently over at TNA. Is he seen as any less of a wrestler because of that?

[Sabretooth]

Shawn opened some doors last night.He could feud with Benjamin,RVD,Cena (Though I sorta hope he doesn't) basically all the midcarders :up:

[Hunter Rider]

look at the line ups


Raw faces-Cena,RVD,Bejamin,Kane,Big show
Heels-HHH,HBK,Y2J,Angle,Edge

SD faces-Batista,Benoit,Rey,Taker,Booker
heels-Orton,JBL,Hassan,Eddie

It's a toss up for which show looks stupider:rolleyes: :down

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, but a former champion fighting in the US division could also help as well. Look at AJ Styles. The guy switches between the heavyweight and X division frequently over at TNA. Is he seen as any less of a wrestler because of that?
Still,I'd like someone like Haas to get the title before they have Benoit going for it.

[Sabretooth]

look at the line ups


Raw faces-Cena,RVD,Bejamin,Kane,Big show
Heels-HHH,HBK,Y2J,Angle,Edge

SD faces-Batista,Benoit,Rey,Taker,Booker
heels-Orton,JBL,Hassan,Eddie

It's a toss up for which show looks stupider:rolleyes: :down
Raw needs some more faces,couple heels wouldn't hurt SD! either.

[John Constantine]

look at the line ups


Raw faces-Cena,RVD,Bejamin,Kane,Big show
Heels-HHH,HBK,Y2J,Angle,Edge

SD faces-Batista,Benoit,Rey,Taker,Booker
heels-Orton,JBL,Hassan,Eddie

It's a toss up for which show looks stupider:rolleyes: :down

What would you like changed then? Who would you like to be added or changed from each show?

[Hunter Rider]

Believe me, I hear you. I'm still pissed that RVD didn't become champion back in 2001 when he was the most super-over with the crowd. But do you know why he's champion and Cena isn't? Because RVD is an ECW-product and Cena is a home-grown WWE product. Simple as that.

But I don't really mind an HBK-Hogan match-up or a HBK heel turn only because I really, really, really want to see Shawn and RVD fight in a ladder match at WM 22. Just thinking about that kind of a match is enough for me to let Hogan have one victory against Shawn at Summerslam.

sorry just doesn't fly for me,Hogan looks like an old man runing around in there,i gotta respect Austin for turning the money down he couldve made on a match with Hogan to preserve his dignity
As for RVD vs HBK ? m3h if its not for the world title i dont care,if its for the IC it just cheapens both men
as for why cena is champ,your spot on my friend and it is a sad thing:( :up:

[Sabretooth]

What would you like changed then? Who would you like to be added or changed from each show?
Heel Haas on Raw DAMMIT! :mad:

[John Constantine]

Still,I'd like someone like Haas to get the title before they have Benoit going for it.

Letting Benoit have the title first could start up a feud with Haas.

Plus, we all know that they're setting up Orton to be champion again. Maybe they'll put Benoit back in the heavyweight title picture once Orton is champion :o

[Sabretooth]

sorry just doesn't fly for me,Hogan looks like an old man runing around in there,i gotta respect Austin for turning the money down he couldve made on a match with Hogan to preserve his dignity
As for RVD vs HBK ? m3h if its not for the world title i dont care,if its for the IC it just cheapens both men
as for why cena is champ,your spot on my friend and it is a sad thing:( :up:
Hogan IS an old man who needs to just stop.Though I did like him getting superkicked last night :up:

RVD and HBK in a match alone IS gold,even if they're not competing FOR gold :up:

[Sabretooth]

Letting Benoit have the title first could start up a feud with Haas.

Plus, we all know that they're setting up Orton to be champion again. Maybe they'll put Benoit back in the heavyweight title picture once Orton is champion :o
I can see Orton feuding with Benoit.As well as Batista vs. Orton (though that one's obvious)

[Hunter Rider]

What would you like changed then? Who would you like to be added or changed from each show?

well for starters i never wouldve made shawn heel, and idve left Batista where he was and sent HHH and Shelton to SD,id have went with a HHH/Taker feud and made Benoit the SD champ,i then wouldve had a unification match on the raw side with with Cena and Batista and had the winner drop the belt to Angle,
in the winter idve had a feud between HBK and Angle for the belt that Angle would win,then on SD i would have Orton take the belt from Benoit at Survivor series

my lead for the WM22 show would be

Raw

WWE camp match
Angle vs RVD

SD champ match

Orton vs Benjamin

second matches on those cards would be Rey vs HHH and a heel turned Batista vs HBK

[John Constantine]

sorry just doesn't fly for me,Hogan looks like an old man runing around in there,i gotta respect Austin for turning the money down he couldve made on a match with Hogan to preserve his dignity
As for RVD vs HBK ? m3h if its not for the world title i dont care,if its for the IC it just cheapens both men
as for why cena is champ,your spot on my friend and it is a sad thing:( :up:

It doesn't have to be for the world title. IC title I could see. Plus, it could help with the whole history thing because the ladder match at WM 10 was for the IC title. And RVD is probably gonna win the IC title off Carlito when he returns anyways :o

But just the thought of one of the greatest wrestlers the WWE's had and one of the main innovators of the ladder match within the WWE and one of the best hi-flyers in pro-wrestling today wrestling in a ladder match in the "grand-daddy" of them all is enough for me to get excited over.

[John Constantine]

Heel Haas on Raw DAMMIT! :mad:

Yeah, I'm still sad that never happened.....:(

[Hunter Rider]

It doesn't have to be for the world title. IC title I could see. Plus, it could help with the whole history thing because the ladder match at WM 10 was for the IC title. And RVD is probably gonna win the IC title off Carlito when he returns anyways :o

But just the thought of one of the greatest wrestlers the WWE's had and one of the main innovators of the ladder match within the WWE and one of the best hi-flyers in pro-wrestling today wrestling in a ladder match in the "grand-daddy" of them all is enough for me to get excited over.

just the fact it would be middle of the card while some garbagefest match between HHH and Cena would be the main event is enough to kill it for me

[Jason Blood]

the best thing to ever happen to the US title was the whole Elimination match and then the Booker Feud

[John Constantine]

well for starters i never wouldve made shawn heel, and idve left Batista where he was and sent HHH and Shelton to SD,id have went with a HHH/Taker feud and made Benoit the SD champ,i then wouldve had a unification match on the raw side with with Cena and Batista and had the winner drop the belt to Angle,
in the winter idve had a feud between HBK and Angle for the belt that Angle would win,then on SD i would have Orton take the belt from Benoit at Survivor series

my lead for the WM22 show would be

Raw

WWE camp match
Angle vs RVD

SD champ match

Orton vs Benjamin

second matches on those cards would be Rey vs HHH and a heel turned Batista vs HBK

Actually, what I would've done was had Trips go over Batista at Hell in the Cell. Then have Trips move to Smackdown. Only because I hate the whole title unification thing and the creation of yet another championship belt for Smackdown. I also would've kept Shelton on Raw, but had Haas move to the show to start a feud with him.

And as much as those WM 22 matches sound, they'll never get that good. The road to Wrestlemania is always a predictable one. They always get the big wrestler to overcome odds, win the rumble, then advance to WM to win the title. Like I could actually see Cena drop the title around Summerslam-Survivor Series. Then enter the Royal Rumble and win the damn thing and win the title back at WM......:(

[John Constantine]

just the fact it would be middle of the card while some garbagefest match between HHH and Cena would be the main event is enough to kill it for me

Personally, I don't care about where the match is on the card, just as long as the two put on a ****ing awesome show. Which I'm pretty sure they will. I mean a lot of good Wrestlemania matches have been on the midcard while horrible main events have taken place.....

[Hunter Rider]

Actually, what I would've done was had Trips go over Batista at Hell in the Cell. Then have Trips move to Smackdown. Only because I hate the whole title unification thing and the creation of yet another championship belt for Smackdown. I also would've kept Shelton on Raw, but had Haas move to the show to start a feud with him.

And as much as those WM 22 matches sound, they'll never get that good. The road to Wrestlemania is always a predictable one. They always get the big wrestler to overcome odds, win the rumble, then advance to WM to win the title. Like I could actually see Cena drop the title around Summerslam-Survivor Series. Then enter the Royal Rumble and win the damn thing and win the title back at WM......:(

the part i highlighted is why im giveing wwe up:(
the HHH SD thing couldve worked but i think its a bad idea to have both RVD and shelton on the same side

[Hunter Rider]

Personally, I don't care about where the match is on the card, just as long as the two put on a ****ing awesome show. Which I'm pretty sure they will. I mean a lot of good Wrestlemania matches have been on the midcard while horrible main events have taken place.....

WM3 is a good example and the WM that just passed,both main events were poor compared with midcard,but thats just it,£15 and youve seen the best midway through the card:down

[John Constantine]

[/color][/b]

the part i highlighted is why im giveing wwe up:(
the HHH SD thing couldve worked but i think its a bad idea to have both RVD and shelton on the same side

Yeah, it's a tired old formula, but it's a formula the WWE's always done since the days of Hulk Hogan. It was done with Austin, the Rock, even Brock Lesner.....:(

[John Constantine]

WM3 is a good example and the WM that just passed,both main events were poor compared with midcard,but thats just it,£15 and youve seen the best midway through the card:down

WM13 had that kickass Bret-Austin double turn match that overshadowed the Sid-UT main event didn't it? :confused:

And how about the WM where they had the Dudleys-Hardys-E/C TLC match? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

WM13 had that kickass Bret-Austin double turn match that overshadowed the Sid-UT main event didn't it? :confused:

And how about the WM where they had the Dudleys-Hardys-E/C TLC match? :confused:

Oh god yeah,the Taker/Sid match is the worst WM main event ever

[DOG LIPS]

Where's Doink when you need him? :(

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, it's a tired old formula, but it's a formula the WWE's always done since the days of Hulk Hogan. It was done with Austin, the Rock, even Brock Lesner.....:(

at least when it lead to Austin vs Rock and Lesnar vs Angle we got great matches,with Cena it's doomed to be crap cos he hasn't actually got ring craft skills and his character street fight style is a watered down Austin rip ,off

[Sabretooth]

Undertaker should never be in the main event at WM.

[Sabretooth]

at least when it lead to Austin vs Rock and Lesnar vs Angle we got great matches,with Cena it's doomed to be crap cos he hasn't actually got ring craft skills and his character street fight style is a watered down Austin rip ,off
I'm so sick of character's that rip off of Austin's character.The whole ''rebel'' thing is old.Cena rebelled against Heyman,now Bischoff,and didn't he rebel against McMahon? It's wrestling nowadays is heel vs. semi heel

[John Constantine]

at least when it lead to Austin vs Rock and Lesnar vs Angle we got great matches,with Cena it's doomed to be crap cos he hasn't actually got ring craft skills and his character street fight style is a watered down Austin rip ,off

Put him in a match with Kurt Angle and it might be good. Which should happen for WM 22. Plus, the two have so much past history with each other, it'll be a great match......

Plus Cena could always pull a Hulk Hogan and choreograph the match for months ala Wrestlemania 6 ;)

[John Constantine]

I'm so sick of character's the rip off of Austin's character.The whole ''rebel'' thing is old.Cena rebelled against Heyman,now Bischoff,and didn't he rebel against McMahon? It's wrestling nowadays is heel vs. semi heel

Yeah, but don't worry, the WWE will eventually find a new idea for a face and they'll run that to the ground :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Put him in a match with Kurt Angle and it might be good. Which should happen for WM 22. Plus, the two have so much past history with each other, it'll be a great match......

Plus Cena could always pull a Hulk Hogan and choreograph the match for months ala Wrestlemania 6 ;)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_9_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824AXGB)ah yes Angles credibilty can die along with shawns

[Sabretooth]

I think I'd like Cena more if he had a more effective finisher.I can't see how the FU can hurt that much.All it is is the other guy gets dropped on his back.How it managed to end Hassan's undefeated streak is beyond me

[John Constantine]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_9_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824AXGB)ah yes Angles credibilty can die along with shawns

Hey, I want to see an Angle-Cena feud only because of the huge history between the two. I mean it was Angle extending an opening to challenge any wrestler that allowed the debut of Cena.

Plus, Angle can get a good match out of anybody. Honestly, has he ever looked bad in a match before?

[Hunter Rider]

I think I'd like Cena more if he had a more effective finisher.I can't see how the FU can hurt that much.All it is is the other guy gets dropped on his back.How it managed to end Hassan's undefeated streak is beyond me

WWE=Pimp + Cena=their Whore=Hassan does the job

[DOG LIPS]

That really sucked when Cena beat Hassan. :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

Hey, I want to see an Angle-Cena feud only because of the huge history between the two. I mean it was Angle extending an opening to challenge any wrestler that allowed the debut of Cena.

Plus, Angle can get a good match out of anybody. Honestly, has he ever looked bad in a match before?

I'll be truthfull,i dont want to see Cena period and yes Angle could make chicken salad outta chiken S**t but when he could be wrestling someone who was good enough to carry their own weight i just see it as a waste and the fact he will lose to the latest fashion whore makes me wanna puke

[John Constantine]

I'll be truthfull,i dont want to see Cena period and yes Angle could make chicken salad outta chiken S**t but when he could be wrestling someone who was good enough to carry their own weight i just see it as a waste and the fact he will lose to the latest fashion whore makes me wanna puke

Yeah, but what can we do? The WWE needs a "mascot" at the moment and right now we're stuck with Vanilla Ice :o

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but what can we do? The WWE needs a "mascot" at the moment and right now we're stuck with Vanilla Ice :o

yep kinda sad that most fans are marks for these guys and ignore guys like RVD and Benjamin,oh well WWE's brothel roll's on:(

[John Constantine]

To be honest, if you're looking for good wrestling, WWE's probably the place you shouldn't go to watch it. The WWE is nothing more than a spectacle. Aside from a select few (Shawn, Angle, Bret Hart, etc....and even those guys have good charisma), the best wrestlers there are not ones who are the best wrestlers per se, but just wrestlers that the WWE feels they can market the hell out of. Even the wrestling style of the WWE is watered down. I mean look at the way RVD wrestled in ECW and look at how he wrestled in the WWE. He's way more limited.....

Right now, places like TNA and ROH are good feds to watch good wrestling. Guys like Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, and Samoa Joe are kicking so much ass on that show. Sure it may look cheap compared to the WWE, but then again, the WWE is all about show and very little on actual wrestling.....

[Hunter Rider]

^^^true


coming to a WWE circus...erm i mean ring near you soon

Y2j burying what little cred he has left to put over WWE's latest no talent whore
the greatest in ring performer ever HBK being humiliated in a feud with a man so old that if he went missing his family wouldn't call the police they'd call Lara Croft
RVD wasting yet more time putting a guy over who is barely good enough to be a curtain jerker
JBl and Batista embarking on a feud that would be the most boring in wrestling history if cena vs JBL hadn't beaten them to it
Eddie and Rey continuing there never ending feud cos WWE don't know what else to do with them
Randy Orton playing pussy as Undertaker continues with a gimmick that was ****ing stupid 10 years ago

[Hunter Rider]

More WWE brilliance for your viewing pleasure

The following was posted this evening on WWE.com:

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to agreements on the release of the following Superstars, WWE would like to wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon More
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman

[Sabretooth]

Undertaker should've stayed with the ABA gimmick

[Sabretooth]

More WWE brilliance for your viewing pleasure

The following was posted this evening on WWE.com:

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to agreements on the release of the following Superstars, WWE would like to wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon More
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Oh that's just great.They wasted a draft pick on Mark Jindrak and release him when they could've drafted Haas and have a feud with Shelton!AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGH! :mad:

[John Constantine]

More WWE brilliance for your viewing pleasure

The following was posted this evening on WWE.com:

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to agreements on the release of the following Superstars, WWE would like to wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon More
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman

What the hell? Akio? :mad: Billy Kidman? :mad: Shannon Moore? :mad:

Talk about dumping the CW division once again :up:

Well, at least this means that Akio and Kidman could go to TNA. And Shannon Moore could always have a reunion with Matt Hardy there as well.....:o

[Hunter Rider]

Oh that's just great.They wasted a draft pick on Mark Jindrak and release him when they could've drafted Haas and have a feud with Shelton!AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGH! :mad:

yup and got rid of 3 good cruiserweights after moving Chavo to Raw....great way to build the division:rolleyes:

[John Constantine]

You know, there are supposed to be more roster cuts coming soon. Plus, with SD ending it's deal with UPN soon, the WWE might be forced to bring their rosters together.


Yeah, so I guess all those who wanted the roster split to end might be a bit happier now.....

[The Ghoul]

^^^true


coming to a WWE circus...erm i mean ring near you soon

Y2j burying what little cred he has left to put over WWE's latest no talent whore
the greatest in ring performer ever HBK being humiliated in a feud with a man so old that if he went missing his family wouldn't call the police they'd call Lara Croft
RVD wasting yet more time putting a guy over who is barely good enough to be a curtain jerker
JBl and Batista embarking on a feud that would be the most boring in wrestling history if cena vs JBL hadn't beaten them to it
Eddie and Rey continuing there never ending feud cos WWE don't know what else to do with them
Randy Orton playing pussy as Undertaker continues with a gimmick that was ****ing stupid 10 years ago

First off, Carlito is not that bad. He is 20x better than Cena. To me, Carlito just needs some tuning maybe some time at OVW for a little bit of help toning his ability. As for Cena, he can hide his ****tyness if he knew how to carry himself in the ring but he looks like he just thinks of a move goes with it. He is also very lazy. After 12 minutes in the ring he wants to finish it so he can go & smoke more pot & pretend to rap. Not that I have a problem with smoking pot, but you have to be responsible. People like RVD, Rock, Jericho, Matt Hardy & Hurricane seem like examples of people who understand that. (Now don't take what I say seriously besides RVD I am mearly guessing that they smoke, but RVD & Rock are pretty open about it so I can safley say they do) But people like Jeff Hardy & Cena are the ones who need to get their **** together. Cena wants to get through match to have another joint & Jeff misses matches & appearances because he was too busy getting stoned. As for 'Taker, I still like Taker. He is talented, charismatic & for his age still has a lot of time before he has to retire. & if he has the ability to sell a gimmick for over 10 years & still be very popular you have no choice but to respect it.

[John Constantine]

YOu know, if there are any further roster cuts, I can see these happening:

Raw:

-Kenzo Suzuki
-Val Venis
-Tyson Tomko


Smackdown:

-Charlie Haas :(
-one of the Bashams....
-Funaki
-Nunzio
-Sylvain Grenier

[The Ghoul]

YOu know, if there are any further roster cuts, I can see these happening:

Raw:

-Kenzo Suzuki
-Val Venis
-Tyson Tomko


Smackdown:

-Charlie Haas :(
-one of the Bashams....
-Funaki
-Nunzio
-Sylvain Grenier

Sounds pretty accurate & sad at the same time. Except for Tomko I see them pushing him as a heel. I don't think they should, but he is over 6 feet & around 300 lbs, so he isn't going anywhere because Vince has a fetish for muscular guys (& I do mean fetish). I can understand Sylvain though, I'm not saying he isn't good but there REALLY is no way to push him, if people didn't give a **** about him when he was a major player 2 years ago it won't happen now.

[John Constantine]

The reason why I put Tomko there is because it seems no one gives a **** about him and his role is pretty pointless at the moment. He really serves no purpose at the moment.

That's probably why I didn't include Heidenreich or Christ Masters on the list. Although they both kinda suck, they're both involved in some angles at the moment, so they'll probably stick around for a while....:(

[The Ghoul]

True, but I still think Vince is going to try & do something with him before letting him go.

[John Constantine]

I could see him being Jericho's new bodyguard.....but that's about it.

[John Constantine]

Besides the aforementioned six wrestlers, two more have been released:

Spike Dudley and Kevin Fertig aka Mordecai

[The Ghoul]

WHAT THE ****!!! Spike was fired. **** OFF WWE.

EDIT: I have more frustation to vent.

Suck my balls Vince. Kiss my ****ing ass. Eat **** & die! Eat My DICK!

[John Constantine]

Sounds like their annual spring cleaning. I expect even more names like this to be released soon....:(

[Sabretooth]

Besides the aforementioned six wrestlers, two more have been released:

Spike Dudley and Kevin Fertig aka Mordecai
Mordy???:(

[LastSunrise1981]

Let me get this straight.

Talented wrestlers such as Shannon Moore, Spike Dudley, Rhyno, Mordecai, and Billy Kidman are released from the WWE.

Yet they hire losers for the Diva Search, useless hosses such as Chris Masters, Tyson Tomko, and some other big green guy to take up space and squash talented wrestlers?

**** THE WWE. I've given up on them for good now.

[Go Web Go!]

More WWE brilliance for your viewing pleasure

The following was posted this evening on WWE.com:

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to agreements on the release of the following Superstars, WWE would like to wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon More
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman

The only cut that surprised me was Billy Kidman. What were they thinking? This guy is one of the best "small" guys they have (or had) and they give him the boot just like that? Man, this guys time in the WWE was a waste. I wonder what Torrie has to say about his release. But anyway, I just don't get it. They cut guys like Kidman, Rhyno, Jindrak (and even O'Haire) that have potential but keep guys like Val Venis, Rosey, Hardcore Holly, Funaki, and Scotty 2 Hotty that will never amount to anything in this business. Such crap, I tell ya...

[White_Howling]

im shocked they got rid of the first tough enought winner maven... they were building him up as a hell and whoops they just dropped him like a bad habit

[Twitch]

With Spike gone, I don't see the Dudleys returning to WWE.....Let's hope they head to TNA (except Jindrak) Shannon Moore in the X division....WOW...I don't know where they put Kidman possibly heavyweight division. Do the WWE even realize that if TNA gets a deal with Spiketv (hopefully, since wwe is moving to USA) they will have some seroius competition....

[3dman27]

The only cut that surprised me was Billy Kidman. What were they thinking? This guy is one of the best "small" guys they have (or had) and they give him the boot just like that? Man, this guys time in the WWE was a waste. I wonder what Torrie has to say about his release.
does torrie still work for the wwe?

[The Techno Bat]

Let me get this straight.

Talented wrestlers such as Shannon Moore, Spike Dudley, Rhyno, Mordecai, and Billy Kidman are released from the WWE.

Yet they hire losers for the Diva Search, useless hosses such as Chris Masters, Tyson Tomko, and some other big green guy to take up space and squash talented wrestlers?

**** THE WWE. I've given up on them for good now.

Don't forget Snitsnky & Hiendenrich those two are the biggest waste with no talent yet Vince keeps ramming them down our throats. I really hope these guys land in TNA and that NWA:TNA can really make a good run at the WWE and over take them as the number one wrestling brand, but it is tough because they don't have a tv deal

[Bad Superman]

I just read this. Cena's days as champ are numbered. . . . :(

From:http://www.wrestlinginc.com/winc/html/article13523.shtml


Why HHH Hasn't Been On RAW, Three New Writers At RAW; More

By Ryan Clark, WrestlingInc.com Staff

Triple H has not appeared on RAW for the past two weeks. The plan right now is to have Edge vs. John Cena at SummerSlam and then bring back Triple H for an angle with John Cena. The plan as of right now, is to hopefully have Triple H help out John Cena in the same way that he did with Batista.

If you weren't convinced of Triple H's out of control ego, well, this pretty much silences any doubt. RIP RAW Roster :down:

[GLfan]

Let me get this straight.

Talented wrestlers such as Shannon Moore, Spike Dudley, Rhyno, Mordecai, and Billy Kidman are released from the WWE.

Yet they hire losers for the Diva Search, useless hosses such as Chris Masters, Tyson Tomko, and some other big green guy to take up space and squash talented wrestlers?

**** THE WWE. I've given up on them for good now.
I think it's stupid and a waste of the fans time for doing Tough Enough, and the Diva search if all they're going to do is release them anyway.:mad:

[DOG LIPS]

WHAT THE ****!!! Spike was fired. **** OFF WWE.

EDIT: I have more frustation to vent.

Suck my balls Vince. Kiss my ****ing ass. Eat **** & die! Eat My DICK!
Watch your language, punk. :mad:
















I agree. :(

[LastSunrise1981]

I just read this. Cena's days as champ are numbered. . . . :(

From:http://www.wrestlinginc.com/winc/html/article13523.shtml


Why HHH Hasn't Been On RAW, Three New Writers At RAW; More

By Ryan Clark, WrestlingInc.com Staff

Triple H has not appeared on RAW for the past two weeks. The plan right now is to have Edge vs. John Cena at SummerSlam and then bring back Triple H for an angle with John Cena. The plan as of right now, is to hopefully have Triple H help out John Cena in the same way that he did with Batista.

If you weren't convinced of Triple H's out of control ego, well, this pretty much silences any doubt. RIP RAW Roster :down:

I knew this was bound to happen eventually. My hope is he'll feud with Cena, but not over the championship; that way if Edge wins the championship then he can gain more heat and be built up as a credible champion.

As for Ego H's ego? It's always been out of control, it just didn't manifest itself in its purest and ugly form until he got with Stephanie, once they got engaged and married that's when we received the Anti-Christ that is Ego H.

Look I wouldn't have a problem with Ego H if he did what was right. I wouldn't have a problem with him if he shared the spotlight/title, I wouldn't have a problem with him if he didn't bury talented superstars.

I've gotten fed up with Ego H's performances(Only performs good when he wrestles HBK, Benoit, Jericho, or Angle) and hell, those guys can carry a dead corpse to a decent/great match.

I think of all the guys Ego H has buried. I think of Jericho, Benoit, Booker T, Steiner, Test, Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, Kane, and would've buried Brock Lesnar if he could've got away with it.

You know what I say? I say we all just hurt the WWE where it hurts the most and that's the wallet, stop giving in to their crap and just stop watching. I haven't watched Raw or Smackdown for the last two or three weeks, and that phase will continue; that is until something changes for the absolute better of the company.

[Bad Superman]

Let me get this straight.

Talented wrestlers such as Shannon Moore, Spike Dudley, Rhyno, Mordecai, and Billy Kidman are released from the WWE.

Yet they hire losers for the Diva Search, useless hosses such as Chris Masters, Tyson Tomko, and some other big green guy to take up space and squash talented wrestlers?

**** THE WWE. I've given up on them for good now.


I knew this was bound to happen eventually. My hope is he'll feud with Cena, but not over the championship; that way if Edge wins the championship then he can gain more heat and be built up as a credible champion.

As for Ego H's ego? It's always been out of control, it just didn't manifest itself in its purest and ugly form until he got with Stephanie, once they got engaged and married that's when we received the Anti-Christ that is Ego H.

Look I wouldn't have a problem with Ego H if he did what was right. I wouldn't have a problem with him if he shared the spotlight/title, I wouldn't have a problem with him if he didn't bury talented superstars.

I've gotten fed up with Ego H's performances(Only performs good when he wrestles HBK, Benoit, Jericho, or Angle) and hell, those guys can carry a dead corpse to a decent/great match.

I think of all the guys Ego H has buried. I think of Jericho, Benoit, Booker T, Steiner, Test, Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, Kane, and would've buried Brock Lesnar if he could've got away with it.

You know what I say? I say we all just hurt the WWE where it hurts the most and that's the wallet, stop giving in to their crap and just stop watching. I haven't watched Raw or Smackdown for the last two or three weeks, and that phase will continue; that is until something changes for the absolute better of the company.

Amen, brotha!!! Amen.

http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesHogan/hogan_nitro.jpg

[The Batman]

Undertaker should've stayed with the ABA gimmick


The ABA gimmick was just...bad. It went against everything the undertaker stood for. His Deadman gimmick is much better, and much more legendary.

[Metamorpho1977]

I can't wait for the Billy Kidman/AJ Styles match. That one will be one for the record books.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Amen, brotha!!! Amen.

http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesHogan/hogan_nitro.jpgThe NWO :( I miss them so much NWO was the only way to go. After they broke up well Wrestling just plain flat out sucked. Untill Triple H went on his power trip and then him and Stone Cold teamed up and beat Lita and the Hardys to a pulp. Which I thank God I still have on tape. Oh and how he married Steph was good too. But now all thats over and the WWE sucks and Smackdown is about to be taken off the air if their rating don't start to rise.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think of all the guys Ego H has buried. I think of Jericho, Benoit, Booker T, Steiner, Test, Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, Kane, and would've buried Brock Lesnar if he could've got away with it.

Are you serious Lesnar has a bigger ego then Triple H. Hell he once tried to fight him back stage and got punk by The Game and when I say punked I mean Triple H beat him up that he was sporting a black eye to house shows for a while.

[Bad Superman]

The NWO :( I miss them so much NWO was the only way to go. After they broke up well Wrestling just plain flat out sucked. Untill Triple H went on his power trip and then him and Stone Cold teamed up and beat Lita and the Hardys to a pulp. Which I thank God I still have on tape. Oh and how he married Steph was good too. But now all thats over and the WWE sucks and Smackdown is about to be taken off the air if their rating don't start to rise.

I miss the ORIGINAL NWO, not the 10 guy gang or the NWO Blue, Red crap. These guys were the best:Hall, Nash, Syxx and of course Hollywood Hogan

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nwo/06.jpg

+

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/h/hulkhogan/44.jpg

=

nWo

[Hunter Rider]

I just read this. Cena's days as champ are numbered. . . . :(

From:http://www.wrestlinginc.com/winc/html/article13523.shtml


Why HHH Hasn't Been On RAW, Three New Writers At RAW; More

By Ryan Clark, WrestlingInc.com Staff

Triple H has not appeared on RAW for the past two weeks. The plan right now is to have Edge vs. John Cena at SummerSlam and then bring back Triple H for an angle with John Cena. The plan as of right now, is to hopefully have Triple H help out John Cena in the same way that he did with Batista.

If you weren't convinced of Triple H's out of control ego, well, this pretty much silences any doubt. RIP RAW Roster :down:

M3h i dont see what it matters,Cena sucks anyway so HHH is no worse than him

[Hunter Rider]

The ABA gimmick was just...bad. It went against everything the undertaker stood for. His Deadman gimmick is much better, and much more legendary.
but it's just so stupid nowadays,with lightning bolts shooting at randy orton,i mean it's just plain embarrising

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ

On the top of the WWE.com site today, it now says, "BREAKING NEWS: Brock Lesnar to meet with WWE officials".

It also has a big photo of Lesnar with the caption "WWE.com has learned through a reliable source that Brock Lesnar will be meeting with WWE officials. Stay tuned to WWE.com today as this breaking story continues to develop."

We've been told that Lesnar has actually been in talks with WWE for at least the last week. He is expected to return shortly.

More on this breaking story shortly.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I hope they make him work his way from the absolute bottom back up to the top....he's been nothing but a pain in the ass since the day he arrived. They should set up a Batista VS Lesnar match and have Batista completely destroy him.

[Hunter Rider]

I hope they make him work his way from the absolute bottom back up to the top....he's been nothing but a pain in the ass since the day he arrived. They should set up a Batista VS Lesnar match and have Batista completely destroy him.

im hoping since WWE sucks so much right now that they might put him in the main event with Batista instead of JBL but im guessing he will be heading Raw to join everyone else in playing ***** to wwe's new product whore

[Bad Superman]

im hoping since WWE sucks so much right now that they might put him in the main event with Batista instead of JBL but im guessing he will be heading Raw to join everyone else in playing ***** to wwe's new product whore

I admit I'm a Lesnar mark. I just hope he has matured enough to come back to WWE and be a team player. It wouldn't bother me if he puts Ego H away for a few months with a botched F-5. ;)

[Hunter Rider]

I admit I'm a Lesnar mark. I just hope he has matured enough to come back to WWE and be a team player. It wouldn't bother me if he puts Ego H away for a few months with a botched F-5. ;)

maybe he could snap the product whore in half as well and we could have a good show for change:eek:

[Ultimate_Superman]

I miss the ORIGINAL NWO, not the 10 guy gang or the NWO Blue, Red crap. These guys were the best:Hall, Nash, Syxx and of course Hollywood Hogan

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nwo/06.jpg

+

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/h/hulkhogan/44.jpg

=

nWo:( God I miss them I still wear my NWO shirt with pride. I remember at one point those 4 guys held every major belt in WCW.

[Spider-Nerd]

* Matt Morgan
* Charlie Haas
* Jackie Gayda
* Marty Jannetty
* Dawn Marie
* Mark Jindrak
* Maven
* Shannon Moore
* James Yun (Akio)
* David Heath (Gangrel)
* Billy Kidman
* Spike Dudley
* Kevin Fertig
-------------------------
Those are the releases as of now. I'm really disappointed that Jannety was released. The guy was in great shape when he showed up, and especially with HBK's recent heel turn I thought maybe we'd see Jannety finally come back.

[Hunter Rider]

* Matt Morgan
* Charlie Haas
* Jackie Gayda
* Marty Jannetty
* Dawn Marie
* Mark Jindrak
* Maven
* Shannon Moore
* James Yun (Akio)
* David Heath (Gangrel)
* Billy Kidman
* Spike Dudley
* Kevin Fertig
-------------------------
Those are the releases as of now. I'm really disappointed that Jannety was released. The guy was in great shape when he showed up, and especially with HBK's recent heel turn I thought maybe we'd see Jannety finally come back.

theyve released Morgan and Haas and there keeping Heidenriech and snitzky and Vis ? jesus christ i give up:rolleyes: :down

[Twitch]

* Matt Morgan
* Charlie Haas
* Jackie Gayda
* Marty Jannetty
* Dawn Marie
* Mark Jindrak
* Maven
* Shannon Moore
* James Yun (Akio)
* David Heath (Gangrel)
* Billy Kidman
* Spike Dudley
* Kevin Fertig
-------------------------
Those are the releases as of now. I'm really disappointed that Jannety was released. The guy was in great shape when he showed up, and especially with HBK's recent heel turn I thought maybe we'd see Jannety finally come back.



OH MY ****ING GOD! THEY REALEASED HAAS!

WWE ARE FULL OF JACKASSES!

[DOG LIPS]

Dawn Marie???

Vader: NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Didn't they just get Morgan?? That was quick.

[Twitch]

Dawn Marie???

Vader: NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Didn't they just get Morgan?? That was quick.

I'm happy about that...

[Archangel]

**** them for releasing Haas and keeping Masters.

As a matter of fact, **** them for releasing ALL OF THEM and keeping Masters.

[Hunter Rider]

It just gets worse:mad: :down

NEWLY ADDED:

Matt Morgan
Bubba Ray Dudley
D-Von Dudley

[Angelus103]

i Think the underTaker should go back tO tHe aba because the deadman was great in his day but it is to played out

[Spider-Nerd]

The IWC is gonna have a field day with the Haas release.

[Twitch]

It just gets worse:mad: :down

NEWLY ADDED:

Matt Morgan
Bubba Ray Dudley
D-Von Dudley

Damm, TNA will be busy this week :o:up:

[John Constantine]

Matt Morgan? What the ****? He's a big guy that can actually wrestle and has intensity. They fire him and keep Masters around? :mad: :rolleyes:

Haas released? I'm pissed at this one as well but not surprised since the WWE did not seem to give a **** about him in the first place....

But why release the Dudleys? They were the most over of any tag team and their return could've been big. I guess the WWE really doesn't give a **** about the tag team division :down

And another release has been announced: Kenzo Suzuki


I wonder who else is going to be released....:rolleyes: :mad:

[Super Kal]

you know, I can honestly see the WWE actually going off the air maybe early next year. What do yuo guys think?

[John Constantine]

I think all these releases mean that the WWE's planning on combining rosters again.


That's why I was so totally against bringing the two rosters together. They'll just release a whole ****load of wrestlers in the effort of having a more streamlined show.....

[Go Web Go!]

Didn't they just get Morgan?? That was quick.

He's been around for atleast 2 years. Maybe even 3. He just hasn't been used on tv until recently...

does torrie still work for the wwe?

Last time I checked yes. I hope Kidman's release doesn't lead to her exit. :(


They should set up a Batista VS Lesnar match and have Batista completely destroy him.

Battle of the back tattoos


but it's just so stupid nowadays,with lightning bolts shooting at randy orton,i mean it's just plain embarrising

How dare you. Best gimmick in wrestling. EVER. It might not have the same feel as it did 10 years ago, but guess what? It still works.

[John Constantine]

And just goes to show that Tough Enough means nothing - Maven, Nidia, Christopher Nowinski (retired, but still...), now Miss Jackie gone. Wasn't Matt Morgan on TE as well?

I fear for Johnny Nitro....:(

[John Constantine]

The releases keep coming. Joy Giovanni is the latest.



On the other hand though, I loved this message Spike Dudley posted:


"I'M BACK!!!!!!!!

And in more ways than one. First, yes I'm gone from the WWE. Does it sting? Hell, yeah. Especially since I've always been one of their "model" employees. It makes sense that I was released, I don't *****, moan, groan or suck. I just didn't fit in with what the WWE puts on tv. No, I'm only kidding(but not really). It was my turn and that's the nature of the beast. The WWE is a sinking ship. Cursed by owning 100% of the industry, I can see how they couldn't afford my outrageous salary in these times of number crunching. Hey, they gave me a great oppurtunity and maybe I didn't make the most of it. That's life. At first I was pissed, but I woke up this morning feeling, I don't know, alive. Check this out, this morning I woke up and visioned having a wrestling match without a script. I visioned going to an arena and actually having fun again. I visioned not having to go to the hospital after being hurt by a "future" WWE superstar who may look good but have the wrestling ability of a dead walrus. I visioned pitching an angle without having to get approval from writers who 6 years ago were buying ECW tickets and making signs(it's true). Hell, I visioned blading!!! I really don't want to burn bridges(if I haven't already) and all that, but that company sucks the life out of you and then spits you out. Enough on them.

I want to love wreslting again. I want to be passionate about the business. It's been so good to me, I want to give back. I don't know how yet, but it will happen.

Right now, I'm going to chill. I've got some time to sit back and re-evaluate life, smell some roses and get my head straight. I doubt you've seen the last of me. And if anything it's a blessing. Nothing sucks worse than working for a company that doesn't respect you. Paul E.(God bless him) proved that to me. Now I don't have to worry about it.

Majik, you f'n rock. Big boost this morning, thank you. I"ll be in touch.

Everyone in Dudlyeville, you all are the best. My many thanks to everyone for the support and love you've shown. Now that I'm on my own I will be back more often, so it's fun time.
I can't name everyone but you know who you are. Keep the faith, and if anyone is hiring get in touch.

Thanks guys,

Spike "no more tears" Dudley"



Spike Dudley ****ing rocks :up:

[Spider-Nerd]

Gotta disagree with you about the Dudleyz being the most over tag team in the wwe. For me, it's gotta be MNM. They're absolutely great, though the tag division at this point is absolute ****. E&C are way past tagging with each other and close to being world champion on each of their respective shows. The Dudleyz are gone. Jeff Hardy is in TNA and Matt Hardy.....well.......maybe we'll see him soon seeing as how if he returned I think he'd be super over.

[John Constantine]

Sorry for triple-posting, but this just makes me laugh:


Despite the 10-year age difference and tribulations, Brock Lesnar (age 27, he turns 28 next Tuesday) and Sable (age 37, yes that is her REAL age) were together as a romantic couple for about two years or so after coming together while they were both on the Smackdown! brand in 2003. As we all know, Brock Lesnar left WWE in March of 2004, but the two stuck together while Sable stayed in WWE for a few more months until parting ways with WWE last August.

Well, seeing how Brock wasn't competing anywhere, he had no source of income whatsoever. His funds have finally dried up and Sable has decided to leave him. There were plans of the two getting married sometime this year, but that would obviously be off the cards now.

There is no doubt that Sable leaving Brock had to be a factor on his impending return to WWE. And seeing how Sable has left Brock, that pretty much dashed any hopes for those of whom who thought Sable may follow him when Brock would make his eventual return to WWE.

source - pwtorch.com


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[John Constantine]

Gotta disagree with you about the Dudleyz being the most over tag team in the wwe. For me, it's gotta be MNM. They're absolutely great, though the tag division at this point is absolute ****. E&C are way past tagging with each other and close to being world champion on each of their respective shows. The Dudleyz are gone. Jeff Hardy is in TNA and Matt Hardy.....well.......maybe we'll see him soon seeing as how if he returned I think he'd be super over.

MNM is an okay tag team, but to me, the Dudleys were the most over of any tag team that was left in the WWE. And it makes absolutely no sense why they were released. They could've been great opponents for MNM to fight on Smackdown.

Honestly, just scrap the tag team division. There's like no tag teams left anyways....

[The Techno Bat]

What they need to do with the tag team division is scrap one of the belts and just have one tag team champion and allow them to go back and forth from Raw to Smackdown

[The Techno Bat]

:( God I miss them I still wear my NWO shirt with pride. I remember at one point those 4 guys held every major belt in WCW.

The Horsemen were just as great, those were the days when Stables were great!

[The Batman]

but it's just so stupid nowadays,with lightning bolts shooting at randy orton,i mean it's just plain embarrising


Lightning bolts...yes. But the dark, deranged personality, no.

Hey, at least they dont have him in some medieval battle armor, or wearing purple gloves.

[Hunter Rider]

How dare you. Best gimmick in wrestling. EVER. It might not have the same feel as it did 10 years ago, but guess what? It still works.

It only still works if your five:p seriously firing lightnin bolts appearing out of smoke while the opponent runs around pretending to be scared is just moronic

[Hunter Rider]

from WZ

If all goes well tomorrow morning, Brock Lesnar will be signing a WWE contract and will be brought straight to SmackDown as it stands now. That could change though upon his return as it would be a 'shocker' type deal if he came back on RAW. We do know the two sides began talking again last week.

[DOG LIPS]

Lightning bolts...yes. But the dark, deranged personality, no.

Hey, at least they dont have him in some medieval battle armor, or wearing purple gloves.
Hey! :mad: I miss the purple gloves, and that huge-ass tie!




:p

[The Batman]

I like it too....but i dont wanna see him wearing that look again

[LastSunrise1981]

Are you serious Lesnar has a bigger ego then Triple H. Hell he once tried to fight him back stage and got punk by The Game and when I say punked I mean Triple H beat him up that he was sporting a black eye to house shows for a while.

I'm not saying Lesnar didn't have an ego. He had one himself, but he didn't bury others or make others look bad in the process, which is something you can't say about Ego H himself.

Ego H is a Grade A punkass himself; I remember how much crap he used to talk about Goldberg and when he confronted Goldberg, he didn't do crap or say any crap to him then. However, he'll gladly do it behind someone else's back from a distance.

And Lesnar is no softie either, Hardcore Holly tried bullying him in the ring and Lesnar broke his neck.

Anyways, I hope TNA gets that TV deal on Spike TV soon.

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not saying Lesnar didn't have an ego. He had one himself, but he didn't bury others or make others look bad in the process, which is something you can't say about Ego H himself.

Ego H is a Grade A punkass himself; I remember how much crap he used to talk about Goldberg and when he confronted Goldberg, he didn't do crap or say any crap to him then. However, he'll gladly do it behind someone else's back from a distance.

And Lesnar is no softie either, Hardcore Holly tried bullying him in the ring and Lesnar broke his neck.

Anyways, I hope TNA gets that TV deal on Spike TV soon.

In fairness HHH put both Benoit and Batista ove multiple times and Lesnar never put anyone over and Goldberg is the lazyiest big head ever,the bottom line is i hope Lesnar does return,i like him but the WWE's biggest problem right now is they are putting straps on talentless mid carders and side lining real talent,the fact Raw is to now be built around crap like Cena just made mew switch off

[PyroChamber]

* Matt Morgan
* Charlie Haas
* Jackie Gayda
* Marty Jannetty
* Dawn Marie
* Mark Jindrak
* Maven
* Shannon Moore
* James Yun (Akio)
* David Heath (Gangrel)
* Billy Kidman
* Spike Dudley
* Kevin FertigDamn, it's like every year the release list gets bigger and bigger, sucks to see some of them go. But did they have to release Dawn Marie? I know she wasn't doing anything but damn.

And like someone also said, I guess pretty much all wrestlers that came from Tough Enough are gone now; except for Nitro and Melina.

[Hunter Rider]

Damn, it's like every year the release list gets bigger and bigger, sucks to see some of them go. But did they have to release Dawn Marie? I know she wasn't doing anything but damn.

And like someone also said, I guess pretty much all wrestlers that came from Tough Enough are gone now; except for Nitro and Melina.
Dawn had her contract bought out cos she is pregnant

[John Constantine]

In fairness HHH put both Benoit and Batista ove multiple times and Lesnar never put anyone over and Goldberg is the lazyiest big head ever,the bottom line is i hope Lesnar does return,i like him but the WWE's biggest problem right now is they are putting straps on talentless mid carders and side lining real talent,the fact Raw is to now be built around crap like Cena just made mew switch off

Lesner did put Big Show over didn't he? And during that time, Big Show went from a huge joke to a sort-of credible main-eventer again.....:confused:

And it's not like this is the first time the WWE's sidelined real talent. They've been doing this since 1984 ;)

[Hunter Rider]

Lesner did put Big Show over didn't he? And during that time, Big Show went from a huge joke to a sort-of credible main-eventer again.....:confused:

And it's not like this is the first time the WWE's sidelined real talent. They've been doing this since 1984 ;)
It was kind of a means to an end with Show but they did work well together
as for the realk talent that is true to a point but there is more crap than ever these days IMO,theyve put belts on a bunch of ppl cos of gimmicks and are pushing a guy like hassan for the same reason:(

[DOG LIPS]

Dawn had her contract bought out cos she is pregnant
Really?? ....Uh-oh....


*Packs bags for Canada*

[John Constantine]

It was kind of a means to an end with Show but they did work well together
as for the realk talent that is true to a point but there is more crap than ever these days IMO,theyve put belts on a bunch of ppl cos of gimmicks and are pushing a guy like hassan for the same reason:(

It's because they try and find an entertainer, not a wrestler. Why is John Cena given the title? Its' because he can branch out beyond wrestling. He has a CD, he has a movie coming out. Look at a lot of their former stars (Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, Triple H). All of them went beyond wrestling and into other forms of media. That's why Carlito is given the IC title as well. His wrestling skill isn't good, but his ability to speak is better than most wrestlers. You think of Kurt angle had mic skills, you think he would still have gotten all those titles?

Honestly, all the WWE cares is why is the most marquee wrestler, not necessarily who is the most skilled.

[Hunter Rider]

It's because they try and find an entertainer, not a wrestler. Why is John Cena given the title? Its' because he can branch out beyond wrestling. He has a CD, he has a movie coming out. Look at a lot of their former stars (Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, Triple H). All of them went beyond wrestling and into other forms of media. That's why Carlito is given the IC title as well. His wrestling skill isn't good, but his ability to speak is better than most wrestlers. You think of Kurt angle had mic skills, you think he would still have gotten all those titles?

Honestly, all the WWE cares is why is the most marquee wrestler, not necessarily who is the most skilled.

Oh man i know the evils of the WWE mentality ive followed in disbelief on many occasions however Cena is the crapest ive ever seen,the other guys mentioned bar Hogan were all totalpackages ,Cena is a joke IMO and the way there setting up Raw as his own personal legends jobber dervice is disgusting IMO

[John Constantine]

Oh man i know the evils of the WWE mentality ive followed in disbelief on many occasions however Cena is the crapest ive ever seen,the other guys mentioned bar Hogan were all totalpackages ,Cena is a joke IMO and the way there setting up Raw as his own personal legends jobber dervice is disgusting IMO

I dunno, Ultimate Warrior was pretty much a joke as well. That guy was all face paint and rope shaking. That's it. And who can forget Lex Luger and the Lex Express? And how about Diesel's championship run and his feuds with such great wrestlers like King Mabel? Or how about Sycho Sid's run at the WWF title?

To be honest, Cena looks like ****ing Kurt Angle compared to those title reigns.....

[U.S War Machine]

Ultimate Warrior was awsome! why you say he's a joke

[Hunter Rider]

I dunno, Ultimate Warrior was pretty much a joke as well. That guy was all face paint and rope shaking. That's it. And who can forget Lex Luger and the Lex Express? And how about Diesel's championship run and his feuds with such great wrestlers like King Mabel? Or how about Sycho Sid's run at the WWF title?

To be honest, Cena looks like ****ing Kurt Angle compared to those title reigns.....

But bar Warrior those guys wernt ever given the spot Cena is getting, i mean Hogan buried warrior and Nash was fortunate that he was there at that time when there wasnt much and HBK was still being brought through,but now WWE has a plethora of talent and they are ****ing them all over to promote a no talent product whore like cena
look at how the shows are shaped up,SD is a dead end show where Orton has no one to feud with but Batista:rolleyes: and on Raw theyve turned HBK heel so now Cena has the top face position all to his lameass self with shelton and RVD playin second fiddles

Now cena has to bury Y2j who will probably go to TNA and then dispose of Edge quickly,after that each Legend can prostitute their reps to this fraud one after the other,Its no coincidence that the 3 biggest stars are now all heels on a show they are buliding around their new whore:(

[John Constantine]

But bar Warrior those guys wernt ever given the spot Cena is getting, i mean Hogan buried warrior and Nash was fortunate that he was there at that time when there wasnt much and HBK was still being brought through,but now WWE has a plethora of talent and they are ****ing them all over to promote a no talent product whore like cena
look at how the shows are shaped up,SD is a dead end show where Orton has no one to feud with but Batista:rolleyes: and on Raw theyve turned HBK heel so now Cena has the top face position all to his lameass self with shelton and RVD playin second fiddles

Now cena has to bury Y2j who will probably go to TNA and then disp[ose of Edge quickly,after that each Legend can prostitutew their reps to this fraud one after the other,Its no coincidence that the 3 biggest stars are now all heels on a show they are buliding around their new whore:(

Well we were lucky with Lex Luger. I think they were considering giving him the title numerous times but backed away from it. They honestly wanted him to be the next Hulk Hogan :rolleyes:

To be honest, I really don't blame the WWE for trying to make Cena their star. It's good business sense from their standpoint. Here's a guy that they've developed since way back then. He's also a guy that doesn't get into much trouble backstage (unlike Edge), and he's a guy who can talk well on the mic and was (and may still be) super-over with the crowd. The WWE thinks they can probably get millions of dollars off selling his name rather than with Shelton or RVD (although RVD was also just as big as Cena was back in 2000-2001). If anything, blame those fans that cheered huge for Cena last year and continue to buy his products.....

[John Constantine]

Ultimate Warrior was awsome! why you say he's a joke

He's nothing more than a gimmick. Pure and simple. Similar to John Cena actually. And just like Warrior, John Cena's Rick Rude is Carlito :)

[Hunter Rider]

He's nothing more than a gimmick. Pure and simple. Similar to John Cena actually. And just like Warrior, John Cena's Rick Rude is Carlito :)

Hey,Rick Rude pwned:mad: ...R.I.P:(

[Hunter Rider]

Well we were lucky with Lex Luger. I think they were considering giving him the title numerous times but backed away from it. They honestly wanted him to be the next Hulk Hogan :rolleyes:

To be honest, I really don't blame the WWE for trying to make Cena their star. It's good business sense from their standpoint. Here's a guy that they've developed since way back then. He's also a guy that doesn't get into much trouble backstage (unlike Edge), and he's a guy who can talk well on the mic and was (and may still be) super-over with the crowd. The WWE thinks they can probably get millions of dollars off selling his name rather than with Shelton or RVD (although RVD was also just as big as Cena was back in 2000-2001). If anything, blame those fans that cheered huge for Cena last year and continue to buy his products.....

I blame both,the marks and the company who dont seem to care about product anymore,im just pissed at the direction right now

[John Constantine]

I know. I'm saying I like Carlito and that I can see those two feuding in the main event next year....:confused:

Or another comparison with Cena/Carlito could be Stone Cold and the Rock.....

[John Constantine]

I blame both,the marks and the company who dont seem to care about product anymore,im just pissed at the direction right now

Or blame WCW for being so crappy near the end and forcing the WWE to liquidate them :joker:

[Hunter Rider]

I know. I'm saying I like Carlito and that I can see those two feuding in the main event next year....:confused:

Or another comparison with Cena/Carlito could be Stone Cold and the Rock.....
Carlito-Rude:confused: sorry just dont see it,carlito is miles behind in the ring,he is all mic no talent IMO he has no moves and no finish,i honestly see him disaperaing after a couple of years

[John Constantine]

Carlito-Rude:confused: sorry just dont see it,carlito is miles behind in the ring,he is all mic no talent IMO he has no moves and no finish,i honestly see him disaperaing after a couple of years

Well not comparisons wrestling-wise, just the sense of rivalry that Warrior-Rude have, I see in Cena and Carlito......I really see these two as being the two big main eventers by next year.....

And he kinda has a finisher doesn't he? The DDT :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Well not comparisons wrestling-wise, just the sense of rivalry that Warrior-Rude have, I see in Cena and Carlito......I really see these two as being the two big main eventers by next year.....

And he kinda has a finisher doesn't he? The DDT :confused:

i guess it must be,he has won every match ive seen with foot on the ropes roll ups,i just dont see anything in him or Cena

[John Constantine]

i guess it must be,he has won every match ive seen with foot on the ropes roll ups,i just dont see anything in him or Cena

Yeah, that annoys me about him as well, that he has to cheat all the time in order to win a match. But that makes a good heel though. I mean he might be the heel that everyone wants to see lose all the time, and it looks like he might, but he manages to squeak in a victory at the last moment....:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, that annoys me about him as well, that he has to cheat all the time in order to win a match. But that makes a good heel though. I mean he might be the heel that everyone wants to see lose all the time, and it looks like he might, but he manages to squeak in a victory at the last moment....:confused:

the thought of those 2 headlineing PPV's just makes me puke.... sorry:(
I wish they had moved Shelton to SD or left RVD there for a feud with Orton and at least those 2 and Lesnar and Batista couldve shared the belt around

[John Constantine]

There's always time for Shelton to mysteriously make the move to SD :)


That or me might be part of the releases :o :(

[Hunter Rider]

There's always time for Shelton to mysteriously make the move to SD :)


That or me might be part of the releases :o :(

dont joke:mad: .......it'll probably happen:(

[John Constantine]

Well anything can happen....plus Benjamin hasn't been on Raw the past couple of weeks :confused: :(

Who else is there left to release though? Val Venis? Funaki? Tajiri? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Crap:(

[John Constantine]

It's a good thing the Hurricane and Rosey are tag team champions at the moment otherwise they would've been released by now....


All I know is that with all these releases, TNA must be laughing their asses off. Imagine if the Dudleys signed a contract with them :eek:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah TNA has a chance to really build a solid roster especially if Y2J leaves as well witch i think he will once he's done the job for Cena

[John Constantine]

Yeah, him going to TNA might be the best for him, but he might stay in the WWE because of the money.

I would love to see Billy Kidman, Shannon Moore, Charlie Haas, Akio/Jimmy Yang, and maybe even Maven sign with TNA and compete in the X-divions actually :up:

[Go Web Go!]

It's a good thing the Hurricane and Rosey are tag team champions at the moment otherwise they would've been released by now....

They should've given Rosey the boot along with his former tag team partner. I forget his name. Um, the fat one. But keep Hurricane. Find a way to stick the guy on Smackdown and just like Chavo and Simon Dean have been given a complete makeover give the Hurricane one. Shane Helms sounds about right. No, not "Gregory" Helms. Shaaane. :)

[Pink Ranger]

Yeah TNA has a chance to really build a solid roster especially if Y2J leaves as well witch i think he will once he's done the job for Cena

Unfortunately, if Jericho leaves WWE he's more likely to go to Japan, where he has history and where the money's actually competitive with what WWE pays (especially in the current slump). The only reason he'd go to TNA is to be closer to his wife.

How the heck does TNA even make money? Does anybody know? I have an MBA, I've familiarized myself with their programs and products, and I can't for the life of me figure out their business model, unless PPV's are off-the-chart successful.

[Shifty]

Unfortunately, if Jericho leaves WWE he's more likely to go to Japan, where he has history and where the money's actually competitive with what WWE pays (especially in the current slump). The only reason he'd go to TNA is to be closer to his wife.
.

Jericho still has Fozzy and his weekly digital radio show to keep him busy and he's big enough in Canada to do something. He's guest hosted OTR a few times and could easily host his own show.

[LastSunrise1981]

TNA definitely has the ability to build up a great roster. The problem with TNA was Dusty Rhodes and Jeff Jarrett; and apparently Dusty resigned as the booker, and Jeff Jarrett is no longer the champion(as far as I know).

With those apparent upgrades in my opinion, they can build a great franchise around Raven(who is the champion as far as I know), and with the current WWE releases they can only make themselves better. I mean, think about the possibilities.

NWA Heavyweight Title Contenders

Raven
AJ Styles
Ron Killings
DDP(Is he still there?)
Matt Hardy
Jeff Hardy
Monty Brown

Name me some other heavyweight contenders please

Personally, I think the highlights are the X-Division now.

X-Division Title

AJ Styles
Kidman
Jeff Hardy
Kazarian
Shannon Moore
Charlie Haas
Spike Dudley
Akio

I haven't seen TNA in a good while, so I don't know all of the current rosters which includes the heavyweight title, tag team titles, and the x-division championship as well.

I hope they sign Marty Jannetty, since it's proven he can still go and wrestle great matches. I feel bad for him too. I was looking forward to seeing him on television again and what not, oh well, I guess it proves the WWE are really morons at mind and bastards in the heart.

[John Constantine]

DDP left TNA a few weeks back. But they have Abyss, who's a lot like what Kane should really be. And he could move/wrestle pretty good for a fat guy.

Frankie Kazarian also just recently signed a WWE contract and I believe he's due to appear in the WWE anytime soon. Don't forget Chris Sabin though. He's a pretty good X-division wrestler. So is the guy from Team Canada. Don't forget current X-division champion Christopher Daniels as well, who's probably the best thing in TNA and maybe better than a lot of what they have in the WWE right now. Elix Skipper is also kickass. Jerry Lynn is returning from a shoulder injury. They have HBK's cousin, Michael Shane. All in all, TNA has a very good X-division roster


Oh, and apparently one of the reasons why Marty Jannetty was released was because he really did go to jail early in June for a third DUI offense. Compound that with him not appearing at OVW when he was supposed to and I guess he was just deemed expendable.

Here's Jannetty's mugshot BTW:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=966534989

[LastSunrise1981]

DDP left TNA a few weeks back. But they have Abyss, who's a lot like what Kane should really be. And he could move/wrestle pretty good for a fat guy.

Frankie Kazarian also just recently signed a WWE contract and I believe he's due to appear in the WWE anytime soon. Don't forget Chris Sabin though. He's a pretty good X-division wrestler. So is the guy from Team Canada. Don't forget current X-division champion Christopher Daniels as well, who's probably the best thing in TNA and maybe better than a lot of what they have in the WWE right now. Elix Skipper is also kickass. Jerry Lynn is returning from a shoulder injury. They have HBK's cousin, Michael Shane. All in all, TNA has a very good X-division roster


Oh, and apparently one of the reasons why Marty Jannetty was released was because he really did go to jail early in June for a third DUI offense. Compound that with him not appearing at OVW when he was supposed to and I guess he was just deemed expendable.

Here's Jannetty's mugshot BTW:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveOffenders/detail.asp?Bookmark=1&From=list&SessionID=966534989

Poor Jannetty, he was getting his life back together too. :( :down

I really feel bad for him because Shawn Michaels pretty much saved his life with christianity and so forth, I just hope that Marty doesn't fall back into the suicidal phase again. :(

Damn, at this rate, TNA could be a major force and I hope they do pick up Jannetty. Why is it that JBL can do a nazi salute in Germany(which is illegal by the way) to gain heel heat and isn't released, yet Marty gets a DUI and he's released? Talk about your hypocritical double standards with the WWE.

[John Constantine]

It wasn't just the DUI though, it was also failing to report to OVW and probably they really didn't have much to do with him in the first place.

Plus, JBL has a lot of seniority within the WWE. Probably another reason why we won't see Hardcore Holly among the releases as well.

I would also like to see TNA pick up Matt Morgan. That guy could really do wonders in the heavyweight division there. And with the plethora of talent that could be in the X-division, TNA could be pretty good competition if they can get a tv deal done.....

[Spider-Nerd]

shelton is in no danger of being released. If he's released, I will burn my captain charisma t-shirt, roast marshmellows over the fire, and enjoy them.

[The Ghoul]

I think WWE is in the dark ages. Is it there fault?... Mostly, but at the same time it is because WE are smarter. From the creation of professional wrestling in circus tents back in the 1800's all the way to about 1978, the people were more than marks... they were just plain stupid. Then from there the people, while still marks, were bored. So they demanded something more visual; & in 1981 when Vince expanded, he gave them that. It wasn't untill the monday night wars that people started paying attention to what happend backstage & started realising who was pure & who was pure ****. My point is though, that vince isn't doing anything different he is just too blind & bullheaded to realise that it doesn't work anymore... (but considering Cena's fan fare, maybe it does.) Vince puts off this patriotic, all American attitude. Maybe he should have taken advice from Ben Franklin before buying WCW when he said (I'm paraphrasing a little) "A rebelion every so often is a good thing." If WCW was still around & on tv, maybe Vince would be more motivated to up his game again. Or if TNA gets a deal with Spike then maybe WWE might get good again.

As for the cuts, I am pissed. I am actually insulted by the Dudleys release, but not mad. Because they are more than likley going to TNA & get the NWA tag titles & up their credibility ( not that they need it) to be the best tag team ever... They are already in the top five

I say it's
1. Road Warriors
2. Dudley Boyz
3. The Outsiders
4. The Rockers
5. New Age Outlaws

Anyway, I am very mad at Kenzo's release. I am a huge Kenzo fan & truley believe that he was completley wasted & it's a shame he didn't have a chance to get over at all, considering he was so close to returning. WWE is like the Stephen Hawking of wrestling. Rich, smart but in terms of wrestling, has no chance of standing up next to others.

[Bad Superman]

I think all these releases mean that the WWE's planning on combining rosters again.


That's why I was so totally against bringing the two rosters together. They'll just release a whole ****load of wrestlers in the effort of having a more streamlined show.....

I hope you're right. I hated the darn roster split.

[hotrain33]

Most of these roster cuts were expected because these stars weren't hardly used but the one that shocked me the most was the dudleys. But if you read that they were in negotiations with the company about a new contract which the previous one was at the end of it's time. The one thing I hope is if Lesner does comeback he stays till the contract is up.

[LastSunrise1981]

I hope you're right. I hated the darn roster split.

I thought the roster split was a good idea. Mainly due to the fact that we got to see guys we never would see; I mean think about it for a second, if the roster split hadn't happened we wouldn't have seen the likes of Paul London or Rey Mysterio in the first place.

Granted the roster split has created/rehashed boring feuds, matches, and storylines in general. However we can agree that it's the fault of the WWE hiring Hollywood soap opera writers.

If they combine the roster then it could be good. They just have to find a way to get Ego H away from the championship; maybe sending him on a 4 year vacation would do it.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am tired of you guys disrespecting The Game he has a right to having a huge ego. He saved the WWE when The Rock left he took that the WWE on his back and carried it for years. He has earned a right to have an ego. If anyone has a huge ego it is The Rock and I still don't see why they wont let him go. But The Game has earned everything he has gotten he has a right to have an ego.

[Hunter Rider]

I am tired of you guys disrespecting The Game he has a right to having a huge ego. He saved the WWE when The Rock left he took that the WWE on his back and carried it for years. He has earned a right to have an ego. If anyone has a huge ego it is The Rock and I still don't see why they wont let him go. But The Game has earned everything he has gotten he has a right to have an ego.
I mostly agree and if those the thought it was bad with HHH as champ.wait till youve had a few months of vanilla ice:(

[Lobo]

I mostly agree and if those the thought it was bad with HHH as champ.wait till youve had a few months of vanilla ice:(


I like Cena (hell of a nice guy when I met him) I just didnt want him to be champion well ever, I could live with him being the IC or Tag champ though. Maybe HBK will take that title from him. I can pray cant I. And while I dont like HHH and never really have I hated him when he used to bow I didnt like him as leader of DX (but it was funny as hell when he was The Crock) and I dont like him now I CAN respect what he does in the ring and Trips ego doesn't even compare that of Hogan.

[John Constantine]

I thought the roster split was a good idea. Mainly due to the fact that we got to see guys we never would see; I mean think about it for a second, if the roster split hadn't happened we wouldn't have seen the likes of Paul London or Rey Mysterio in the first place.



Yeah, I've always liked the roster split only because it created a sense of rivalry between the two shows. Plus, it helped give a lot of wrestlers exposure that they wouldn't have gotten if they didn't split.

Look at the situation right now. The rosters are probably gonna be merged again and there have already been so many releases.....:(

[Hunter Rider]

I like Cena (hell of a nice guy when I met him) I just didnt want him to be champion well ever, I could live with him being the IC or Tag champ though. Maybe HBK will take that title from him. I can pray cant I. And while I dont like HHH and never really have I hated him when he used to bow I didnt like him as leader of DX (but it was funny as hell when he was The Crock) and I dont like him now I CAN respect what he does in the ring and Trips ego doesn't even compare that of Hogan.
oh as a person i couldnt comment i just dont feel he is anywhere near good enough to be champ,as for HBK well i stopped watching Raw after the travesty this monday,HBK as a heel is stupid and working with Hogan will just be humiliating,if WWE had any sense they wouldve sent him to SD to be the main face and feud with orton,that way when Lesnar gets there they wouldve had a good quartet to to share the belt around in Batista,Lesnar,HBK and orton

[John Constantine]

But anyways, the belt being exchanged between Batista, Lesner, and Orton is good enough anyways :up:

And it's going to be interesting to see the exchange between Batista and Lesner.....

[Ultimate_Superman]

Why stop watching? HBK had some of his best matches as a heel. Hell how do you think he formed DX. He was a heel for a long time proably almost as hated as Hogan when he turned heel and formed the NWO.

[Hunter Rider]

Why stop watching? HBK had some of his best matches as a heel. Hell how do you think he formed DX. He was a heel for a long time proably almost as hated as Hogan when he turned heel and formed the NWO.

cos all i see is HBK is about to be a made into a fool to sell a tired old fart and then after that is done he can play punk for the lameass Cena,it's no coincidence that WWE have taken the 3 best guys,(HBK,HHH andAngle) and made them heel all on Raw,theyve done that to feed Cena one big name after another to whore his merchandise
Also dont expect the classic arrogant HBK heel,he said he would never go back to that,i think he will more likely be playing a lame bible bashing character

[Hunter Rider]

But anyways, the belt being exchanged between Batista, Lesner, and Orton is good enough anyways :up:

And it's going to be interesting to see the exchange between Batista and Lesner.....

If Orton was face i could agree but a show with batista playing the face sucks IMO,the big match from the 3 should be Orton vs Lesnar but we wont get that as they are both heels

[John Constantine]

I'm waiting to see HBK's response on Raw this week before I make any further judgement. :o

I do hope they come up with a ****ing kickass reason for the turn....but somehow I doubt it :(

[John Constantine]

If Orton was face i could agree but a show with batista playing the face sucks IMO,the big match from the 3 should be Orton vs Lesnar but we wont get that as they are both heels

They could initially have Lesner come in as a heel though and try and challenge Batista for the title. Batista and Lesner feud with Batista getting the upperhand. Their feud ends with a show of respect between the two, and this could turn Lesner to a face. Batista could then feud with Orton, Orton wins the title. Lesner then challenges Orton for the title.....or something to that effect :confused:


I have to say though that SD bringing back Brock does open up a lot of new things. It's probably why Matt Morgan got released. No reason to keep the Brock Lesner wannabe around when the real thing is returning again :D

[Lobo]

When is Lesnar supposed to return? Hunter I agree Cena's not good enough to be wwe champ.

[DOG LIPS]

I'm waiting to see HBK's response on Raw this week before I make any further judgement. :o

I do hope they come up with a ****ing kickass reason for the turn....but somehow I doubt it :(
It's probably going to be the same dumb ass old "I'M the show-stopper! I'm tired of him stealing my spotlight!"

It would be cool if he said "He had a bug on his chin, I meant no disrespect."

[John Constantine]

It's probably going to be the same dumb ass old "I'M the show-stopper! I'm tired of him stealing my spotlight!"

It would be cool if he said "He had a bug on his chin, I meant no disrespect."

Yeah, probably....:(

But you know, now that both Shawn and Triple H are heels again, could we see a reunion of the two in the future? :o

[Hunter Rider]

They could initially have Lesner come in as a heel though and try and challenge Batista for the title. Batista and Lesner feud with Batista getting the upperhand. Their feud ends with a show of respect between the two, and this could turn Lesner to a face. Batista could then feud with Orton, Orton wins the title. Lesner then challenges Orton for the title.....or something to that effect :confused:


I have to say though that SD bringing back Brock does open up a lot of new things. It's probably why Matt Morgan got released. No reason to keep the Brock Lesner wannabe around when the real thing is returning again :D

i just feel Lesnar works better as a heel,if they had HBK orRVD or Shelton there as another face i think the balance would be much better,i always saw Batista as a stop gap champ

[Hunter Rider]

When is Lesnar supposed to return? Hunter I agree Cena's not good enough to be wwe champ.

His deal is supposed to be signed today,im thinking probably at the GAB or the show after

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, probably....:(

But you know, now that both Shawn and Triple H are heels again, could we see a reunion of the two in the future? :o

it wouldn't work now,both are to big in their own right,im betting HBK plays a bible basher gimmick

[John Constantine]

i just feel Lesnar works better as a heel,if they had HBK orRVD or Shelton there as another face i think the balance would be much better,i always saw Batista as a stop gap champ

Yeah, me too. But the exchange between Batista and Lesner could be interesting. You could have Batista say that Lesner abandoned the WWE and he took over as the dominant monster of the WWE.

But instead of Shawn, maybe we could put Benoit in the main event instead? :) A Benoit-Lesner main event match might kick ass :up:

[DOG LIPS]

Yeah, probably....:(

But you know, now that both Shawn and Triple H are heels again, could we see a reunion of the two in the future? :o
Yeah, but with the rest of DX out of the WWE, which would be why everyone would want them to get together. (Everyone would be DX'ing all over the place even if HBK and HHH never even mentioned it) the two of them getting together would be kind of boring.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but with the rest of DX out of the WWE, which would be why everyone would want them to get together. (Everyone would be DX'ing all over the place even if HBK and HHH never even mentioned it) the two of them getting together would be kind of boring.

The original DX with Shawn and Hunter was one of the best heel groups around. Plus it would be interesting to see the clique together again....:o

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, me too. But the exchange between Batista and Lesner could be interesting. You could have Batista say that Lesner abandoned the WWE and he took over as the dominant monster of the WWE.

But instead of Shawn, maybe we could put Benoit in the main event instead? :) A Benoit-Lesner main event match might kick ass :up:

I'll admit if i sound a bit sour the last 2 days it;s due to the HBK thing,ive followed him for a long time and feel he is about to be screwed royaly,the idea of Benoit/Lesnar would certainly be awesome

[DOG LIPS]

The original DX with Shawn and Hunter was one of the best heel groups around. Plus it would be interesting to see the clique together again....:o
Yeah, but it's hard to see Ric Flair as a replacement to Chyna. :p

[John Constantine]

I'll admit if i sound a bit sour the last 2 days it;s due to the HBK thing,ive followed him for a long time and feel he is about to be screwed royaly,the idea of Benoit/Lesnar would certainly be awesome

Just think of how good Smackdown might be with Lesner returning though....it just beings up so many new possibilities :)

Now if only all those cruiserweights hadn't have been released. :(

[John Constantine]

Yeah, but it's hard to see Ric Flair as a replacement to Chyna. :p

Yeah, Chyna did look manlier than Flair ;) :D

[DOG LIPS]

It seems like cruiserweights and tag teams are a dyin' breed in the WWE these days.

[Hunter Rider]

Just think of how good Smackdown might be with Lesner returning though....it just beings up so many new possibilities :)

Now if only all those cruiserweights hadn't have been released. :(

Ironically i will probably just watch SD from now on,shame they couldnt have let a few of the good guys that are gonna be wasted on Raw come to SD...oh well smalll mercy's and all that

[John Constantine]

Because the WWE can't market the cruiserweights probably. Look at the Cruiserweight champion. Has any match of his on Smackdown the past few weeks actually been finished? Of course not. We've had interference by Eddie Guerrero and the Mexicools.

If the WWE actually cared about the division. They would just let the cruiserweights go all-out for 10-15 minutes. That would get people to actually give a **** about the wrestlers

[John Constantine]

Ironically i will probably just watch SD from now on,shame they couldnt have let a few of the good guys that are gonna be wasted on Raw come to SD...oh well smalll mercy's and all that

I really wouldn't be surprised to see Benjamin miraculously pop-up on Smackdown. But it's funny because despite the fact that Raw has all of the "bigger-name" wrestlers, I'm more interested in seeing what happens on Smackdown now.....

[Hunter Rider]

Because the WWE can't market the cruiserweights probably. Look at the Cruiserweight champion. Has any match of his on Smackdown the past few weeks actually been finished? Of course not. We've had interference by Eddie Guerrero and the Mexicools.

If the WWE actually cared about the division. They would just let the cruiserweights go all-out for 10-15 minutes. That would get people to actually give a **** about the wrestlers

The mexicools -there is three guys been wasted straight away,the WWE are to stupid to realise that cruiserweights dont need storylines

[DOG LIPS]

I agree that SD is getting more interesting than RAW in some ways, but the first step is to make SD live damnit! You know I can't resist those damn SD spoilers!! :mad: :(

[John Constantine]

The mexicools -there is three guys been wasted straight away,the WWE are to stupid to realise that cruiserweights dont need storylines

Yep. I always hear stuff like the fans don't really pay attention to the cruiserweights. Of course they don't if they're not given a chance to show what they can really do in the ring. I mean instead of Juvi, Psichosis, and Super Crazy spouting all that ****, they can get even more over if they just put on kickass matches.

[Hunter Rider]

I really wouldn't be surprised to see Benjamin miraculously pop-up on Smackdown. But it's funny because despite the fact that Raw has all of the "bigger-name" wrestlers, I'm more interested in seeing what happens on Smackdown now.....
Me too,Raw has the plan mapped out
Cena beats Y2J and Edge in the summer
then spends the next year ruining the reputations of HBK angle and HH as they job to him one by one in the WWE's quest for their new product slut

at least on SD there is the possibility of some free thinking and fresh matches,i really hope your right about Shelton,one sad thing is a match between him and Angle couldve been killer

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. I always hear stuff like the fans don't really pay attention to the cruiserweights. Of course they don't if they're not given a chance to show what they can really do in the ring. I mean instead of Juvi, Psichosis, and Super Crazy spouting all that ****, they can get even more over if they just put on kickass matches.

exactly ,the way Mysterio got over years ago wasnt through mic work or gimmicks it was through amazing mathces with dean malenko and phsycosis

[John Constantine]

Me too,Raw has the plan mapped out
Cena beats Y2J and Edge in the summer
then spends the next year ruining the reputations of HBK angle and HH as they job to him one by one in the WWE's quest for their new product slut

at least on SD there is the possibility of some free thinking and fresh matches,i really hope your right about Shelton,one sad thing is a match between him and Angle couldve been killer

Yeah, but if it means Shelton possibly being in the main event on Smackdown, I can overlook that :)

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but if it means Shelton possibly being in the main event on Smackdown, I can overlook that :)

yep,the prospect of Shelton vs Orton or Lesnar in the main events would be awesome

[John Constantine]

Add in Batista, Benoit, and Guerrero and the main event for Smackdown sounds interesting.

If only Kurt Angle wasn't on Raw, I would love to see him on SD as well.....:(

[Hunter Rider]

Add in Batista, Benoit, and Guerrero and the main event for Smackdown sounds interesting.

If only Kurt Angle wasn't on Raw, I would love to see him on SD as well.....:(

yeah and dont forget christian,i think its obvious though the reason Angle is on Raw,they have the next year set up,Cena to be made into a mega star by fueding with and beating the 3 top guys ,Angle HHH and HBK,its a calculated and quite honestly ****ing ludicrous idea but thats WWE for ya

[Hunter Rider]

From WZThe feeling among many in WWE is that Brock Lesnar has already verbally agreed to a WWE deal and will sign an official contract today. As noted yesterday, he is expected to go to SmackDown!. I could definitely see a Batista-Lesnar feud, possiblly culminating at WrestleMania.

[John Constantine]

Well maybe they think of Cena goes over those three, Cena could then be seen as a true main-eventer? :confused:

Don't forget Cena might go over Hogan as well because the Hulkster apparently wants to wrestling him as well :o

[Hunter Rider]

Well maybe they think of Cena goes over those three, Cena could then be seen as a true main-eventer? :confused:

Don't forget Cena might go over Hogan as well because the Hulkster apparently wants to wrestling him as well :o

I'll just say thank god SD has some hope left,Cena isnt a main eventer and no matter how many job to him it wont change,you cant turn chicken s**t into chicken salad:(

[John Constantine]

Well that's the WWE's mindset. Try and turn Cena into a legitimate main eventer by having him go over the big talent. We'll just have to see. Who knows, this time next year, everybody might be saying he's bigtime.....

[Hunter Rider]

Well that's the WWE's mindset. Try and turn Cena into a legitimate main eventer by having him go over the big talent. We'll just have to see. Who knows, this time next year, everybody might be saying he's bigtime.....

[Indiana Jones]im not that easy[Indiana Jones]:p
going over guys i know he's not fit to lace the boots of doesnt impress me but you may be right about the marks buying into him

[Twitch]

If People realize that Raw is set-up for the rest of the year and just turn into Smackdown! that can actually do well before they combine with Raw.

Here's a fantasy of mine, TNA goes on Mondays with Spiketv and starts up the wars again can you just imagine the Kickass matches coming out of a X Division ivasion :up:

[Jason Blood]

This week will forever be known as the 4th of July (week...) Massacre

We'll all have to say goodbye to

Bubba Ray Dudley
D-Von Dudley
Hiroko Suzuki
Joy Giovanni
Kenzo Suzuki
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig

until their no compete clauses run out of course

[Jason Blood]

I will now express my opinions on the releases

Dudley Boyz- impossible to break-up, even though they've done everything they can as a tag-team

Hiroko Suzuki- no point without Kenzo

Joy Giovanni- just a pretty face

Kenzo Suzuki- meh

Matt Morgan- could've been a MAJOR heel if they didn't waste him on that stupid angle

Charlie Haas- PHENOMENAL ATHELETE

Jackie Gayda- worthless

Marty Jannetty- Arrested for something

Dawn Marie- Bun in the oven

Mark Jindrak- meh

Maven- Tough Enough failure

Shannon Moore- Matt Hardy's friend... not surprised

James Yun (Akio)- who?

David Heath (Gangrel)- I don't get this one personally...

Billy Kidman- Now Paul London can do the SSP and Kidman kept getting injured

Spike Dudley- what is there for him to do, even with the Dudleys around?

Kevin Fertig- Mordecai sucked...


I EXPECT... TO BE RELEASED

Tyson Tomko
Val Venis
Funaki
Hardcore Holly
Nunzio
Scotty 2 Hotty
Sylvain Grenier
Some Divas

[U.S War Machine]

Anyone know what happened to Billy Gunn? I haven't seen him in a long time.

[Spider-Nerd]

Anyone know what happened to Billy Gunn? I haven't seen him in a long time.
He's known as "the Outlaw" in TNA.

[Jason Blood]

They first debuted him as "The New Age Outlaw", but the WWE owned that name, so they decided on "The Outlaw"

[Hunter Rider]

As noted earlier this week by PWInsider, Triple H was at RAW on Monday. WWE management knows that he has been overexposed the last few weeks and have opted to keep him off WWE RAW for the next several weeks. We don't have any confirmation on when exactly he'll make his return.

From WWE.com:

Just hours before his meeting with Vince McMahon, an optimistic Brock Lesnar sat down with WWE.com to talk about his departure last year, possible upcoming return and more.

"I've had some contractual disagreements with WWE, as well as a lawsuit. But I'm ready now to see if we can do some business together.

"It wasn't easy for me to leave," claimed Lesnar in regards to his 2004 departure from WWE. "I struggled with the decision for a while. I realize people have their opinions about me leaving, and they're entitled to those opinions. That's why they live in America."

After making the decision to leave WWE, Lesnar set his sights on becoming an NFL star. His unsuccessful pursuit to the gridiron was highly publicized, but it was one he still looks upon fondly. "I'm glad I did it. I didn't want to look back years from now and regret not taking that chance," said Brock on his decision to try football. "I'm done with football now, though. Like I said yesterday, professional wrestling is in my blood. This is what I want to do. You only get one life to live, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to live my life to the fullest."

If all goes well between Lesnar and McMahon today, the former WWE Champion still has to consider how he will be received by the WWE Superstars. "I have to take into consideration that this is a business," replied Lesnar regarding any ill feelings toward him. "Hopefully, a return is what everybody wants to see. I can tell you that I will commit myself to be the guy I was in the ring before I left. If there's problems from the boys, that's not my problem. I never had a problem with them. They've been nothing but great to me in the past.

"If I do come back, though, people should be aware that they need to be on their toes," Lesnar continued. "There ain't nobody that can hold a candle to me."

Stay tuned to WWE.com as more on Brock Lesnar and his meeting with Vince McMahon becomes available.

[Jason Blood]

I saw this on WWE.com

Christy Hemme was a “Juggy” dancer on Comedy Central’s “The Man Show.”

[Jason Blood]

I'm beginning to think that the WWE is trying to cut it's roster, because they're ditching Velocity and Heat

that's probably just part of it

[U.S War Machine]

Heat use to be good back in 1997 & 98, they had some great matches back then I remember Ken Shamrock vs. Kane but now heat just sucks.

[DOG LIPS]

I can't understand 85% of what the Mexicools say. :(

And I'm not talking about the spanish, I'm talking about the english.

[Twitch]

Muhammad's part was disturbing and sad at the same time considering London

[DOG LIPS]

Wow... I was wondering why the ran that warning across the bottom before Taker's match, Hassan brought out a group of 'terrorists'. :eek:

[DOG LIPS]

Damn... I missed the Blue Meanie match! Can someone give me a detailed description of what happend with BM?

[Twitch]

Damn... I missed the Blue Meanie match! Can someone give me a detailed description of what happend with BM?

BM was behind No DQ so Steven opened JBL with a chair shot to the head OJ came out and took out richards JBL hit the The hell shot but batista came out of nowhere and spinebusted him and dragged Meanie over for the pin :up:

[Jason Blood]

even though they had a little disclaimer at the beginning, the whole terrorist attack deal was ****ing crazy

[DOG LIPS]

BM was behind No DQ so Steven opened JBL with a chair shot to the head OJ came out and took out richards JBL hit the The hell shot but batista came out of nowhere and spinebusted him and dragged Meanie over for the pin :up:
Were they in bWo shirts? Did Nova make an appearance? Damn my not-paying-attention-to-the-time!! :mad:

[Twitch]

Were they in bWo shirts? Did Nova make an appearance? Damn my not-paying-attention-to-the-time!! :mad:

Yep wearing the shorts everything...

[Jason Blood]

the ENTIRE bWo was there

[DOG LIPS]

That sucks, by the time I remembered SD was on tonight, it was when the Mexicools came out, so I missed it. Hopefully next week they will make another grande appearance. :)

[Savage]

I can't understand 85% of what the Mexicools say. :(

And I'm not talking about the spanish, I'm talking about the english.
LOL! Oh thank god! I'm not alone!:D

And the hell was up with the Israeli ninjas? God that was racist. lol. He's muslim so he MUST be a terrorist.

[DOG LIPS]

LOL! Oh thank god! I'm not alone!:D

And the hell was up with the Israeli ninjas? God that was racist. lol. He's muslim so he MUST be a terrorist.
Actually I think two of them were the Basham brothers.

...I'm serious... I saw some white-guy mouths.

[John Constantine]

Actually two of them were the Shane twins, and another was Val Venis.....

[DOG LIPS]

Actually two of them were the Shane twins, and another was Val Venis.....
How do you know? Just guessing, or did you read that somewhere, cause they sure looked like a bunch of white guys to me. :p

[John Constantine]

I couldn't guess that good, I got it from this article:

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005_/articles/1120788233.php

:D


All I know is that the WWE's gonna be in sooo much **** for airing that.....

[DOG LIPS]

I couldn't guess that good, I got it from this article:

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2005_/articles/1120788233.php

:D


All I know is that the WWE's gonna be in sooo much **** for airing that.....
Yeah, but they did do that stupid warning, and they have the excuse of it being filmed Monday night.

[John Constantine]

Still, they could've edited it out. I even read that they were going to edit out that footage for the show.

But I guess negative publicity is better than no publicity :confused:

[DOG LIPS]

I'm sure when they reveal it was really five white guys it should calm people down a little. :D

[John Constantine]

Actually that might make things worse.....:( :p

[Lobo]

I just read that the Dudleys (all 3) got released along with Maven, Kidman and some others.

[John Constantine]

That was reported like 3 days ago....:confused:


The only thing we're waiting for are the other releases to come....

[Lobo]

Matt Morgan Haas, and Gayda have been released also.

[John Constantine]

Yeah, look back a couple of pages for a huge ***** session about these releases ;)


I'm personally disappointed about the release of Haas. And the WWE's "reason" for it? He didn't have any charisma. I wonder if it had anything to do with them just not doing anything properly with him in the first place :rolleyes: :mad:

[Lobo]

Yeah, look back a couple of pages for a huge ***** session about these releases ;)


I'm personally disappointed about the release of Haas. And the WWE's "reason" for it? He didn't have any charisma. I wonder if it had anything to do with them just not doing anything properly with him in the first place :rolleyes: :mad:


I dont look back more than a page ever so :o ;) And I only check wrestling websites like 2 times a month

No mic skills was the reason they got rid of Jerry Lynn a long time ago too. No charisma, Benoit has no charisma either so to the wwe :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWInsider.com

Thanks to Julian Zelones for the following:
Just to let you know that here in Australia, the Undertaker attack angle was edited off SmackDown this week. The show airs here on Friday afternoons only a couple of hours after it has aired in the US.

Thanks to Matt Marolf for the following:
John Cena vs. Edge for the WWE Title is being advertised for the August 2 Raw house show in Albany, NY.

Thanks to Adam Lunau for the following:
I just wanted to pass along that I was watching CNN Headline News tonight and they had a bit on Hulk Hogan. It wasn't long and mostly focused on his new TV show but there was one mention of WWE RAW. Hogan did say that Shawn Michaels, "my best friend" (as Hogan put it), recently turned on him and that he is training for SummerSlam. I think we all thought that's where it was going but there you have it out of Hogan's mouth.

*pukes*:mad: :down I gotta say im not a big Austin fan but i give him credit for turning down a match with Hogan and not degrading his legacy......poor HBK:(

[John Constantine]

I dont look back more than a page ever so :o ;) And I only check wrestling websites like 2 times a month

No mic skills was the reason they got rid of Jerry Lynn a long time ago too. No charisma, Benoit has no charisma either so to the wwe :rolleyes:

And look what happened with Jerry Lynn. He kicked ass on TNA putting on great matches with guys like AJ Styles.

I hope the same can happen with Haas. He could be a great addition to the TNA roster. :up:

[John Constantine]

Source: PWInsider.com

Thanks to Julian Zelones for the following:
Just to let you know that here in Australia, the Undertaker attack angle was edited off SmackDown this week. The show airs here on Friday afternoons only a couple of hours after it has aired in the US.

Thanks to Matt Marolf for the following:
John Cena vs. Edge for the WWE Title is being advertised for the August 2 Raw house show in Albany, NY.

Thanks to Adam Lunau for the following:
I just wanted to pass along that I was watching CNN Headline News tonight and they had a bit on Hulk Hogan. It wasn't long and mostly focused on his new TV show but there was one mention of WWE RAW. Hogan did say that Shawn Michaels, "my best friend" (as Hogan put it), recently turned on him and that he is training for SummerSlam. I think we all thought that's where it was going but there you have it out of Hogan's mouth.

*pukes*:mad: :down I gotta say im not a big Austin fan but i give him credit for turning down a match with Hogan and not degrading his legacy......poor HBK:(


I doubt Shawn has anything to worry about. His legacy will still be intact. Everyone will still remember the great matches he's put on.

Plus, a lot of people are interested in seeing Hogan and Shawn wrestle. I don't know why, but it could have to do with those two being some of the biggest names in WWE history :o

[Lobo]

I need to start watching TNA more :(

[Hunter Rider]

I doubt Shawn has anything to worry about. His legacy will still be intact. Everyone will still remember the great matches he's put on.

Plus, a lot of people are interested in seeing Hogan and Shawn wrestle. I don't know why, but it could have to do with those two being some of the biggest names in WWE history :o

Oh im sure some ppl will be excited:rolleyes: but the fact Hogan can barely move means HBK will be forced to sell the crap outve him and Hogan is so lame and his gimmick so stupid its degrading...the 2 biggest names crap only works when both guys are still good IMO...AGGHHHHH nevermind i just F**cking hate this HBK heel S**t and i won't be watching anyway..:(

[John Constantine]

I need to start watching TNA more :(

It's available in streaming Real Player format at the main site now. It's a good opportunity to watch it :up:

[John Constantine]

Oh im sure some ppl will be excited:rolleyes: but the fact Hogan can barely move means HBK will be forced to sell the crap outve him and Hogan is so lame and his gimmick so stupid its degrading...the 2 biggest names crap only works when both guys are still good IMO...AGGHHHHH nevermind i just F**cking hate this HBK heel S**t and i won't be watching anyway..:(

But when Hogan was good, Shawn was still in diapers ;)

Seriously, this match is just a way for the WWE to get more buyrates on their PPVs. People will look at the card and see "OMG!!! Hogan is fighting Shawn Michaels!! I must get the PPV now!!!".


Or at least that's what the WWE hopes will happen :o