Wrestling

[Sabretooth]

I think it has a lot to do with maybe Masters improving a bit. He's put on a couple good matches and the fact that no one has broken his Masterlock yet has kinda legitimized him.....
I really don't see much improvement.He could use some time at OVW. :o

[Twitch]

I think it has a lot to do with maybe Masters improving a bit. He's put on a couple good matches and the fact that no one has broken his Masterlock yet has kinda legitimized him.....

The only thing that pleased me about that crowd is that they cheered Angle :up:

[Sabretooth]

And they booed Hogan :up:

[John Constantine]

I really don't see much improvement.He could use some time at OVW. :o

It's been minimal improvement, but improvement nonetheless :o

But that could be because he was carried into better matches by wrestlers like Val Venis and Tajiri :o

[Goblin5679]

well Hogan has lost his last 4 big matches so i see no reason why WWE should let him go over against one of the company's biggest assets

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/963/0010ea.jpg

this is Bret's new wife,The old Hitman is doing alright for himself:cool:


Very nice trade up for Bret.

[3dman27]

yes indeed the man has taste

[Goblin5679]

I was kinda surprised that Sheldon jobbed to Masters,I guess they want to get Masters and his move over big time.Wouldn't shock me if Masters beat Big Show soon.

[Goblin5679]

yes indeed the man has taste


Yeah I would say so,Julie didn't age well like Bret did,good for Bret though.

[WildChild]

I think it has a lot to do with maybe Masters improving a bit. He's put on a couple good matches and the fact that no one has broken his Masterlock yet has kinda legitimized him.....
The only good thing about Master's is that I can start and finish the new Harry Potter book in the time it takes for him to get to the ring.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

-- One source close to the situation says, "Michaels does not like Hogan." He believed that Michaels was going to really "stick it to Hogan" during their segment on RAW.

Aside from Wanting Shawn Michaels to super kick his son, Hulk Hogan had also suggested making degrading remarks about his daughter to get more heat. Michaels ended up turning down both ideas.

Partial Credit: PWTorch.com

The initial buyrate estimates for Great American Bash certainly don't paint a rosy picture of the state of SmackDown. The PPV, headlined by JBL vs. Batista, scored an estimated 200,000 buys. Although the first estimates are usually a bit lower than the final number, the PPV is still dangerously close to being the worst-performing WWE event this year.

Considering WWE has opted to continue two of the more prominent storylines - JBL/Batista and Guerrero/Mysterio - through Summerslam, the news is extremely alarming.

Prior to this PPV, the WWE No Way Out event was the year's worst performer.

[Sabretooth]

Hogan sure seems to hate his kids :D Sucks HBK turned down the idea of superkicking Hogan's son,I really wanted him to hurt that little bastard :mad:

[WildChild]

Yeah that wuold have been great.

[LastSunrise1981]

Hogan sure seems to hate his kids :D Sucks HBK turned down the idea of superkicking Hogan's son,I really wanted him to hurt that little bastard :mad:

Nah, Shawn is already generating enough heel heat. Can you imagine the heat he's going to get in Montreal now? Seriously, he's always gotten heat there as a face, but damn now that he's a heel they're going to go nuts.

But the good thing about Montreal, is that they won't be cheering a lot of the stupid things the WWE produces. :up:

[Sabretooth]

*prays Bret Hart will show up on Raw in Montreal* :(

[John Constantine]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

-- One source close to the situation says, "Michaels does not like Hogan." He believed that Michaels was going to really "stick it to Hogan" during their segment on RAW.

Aside from Wanting Shawn Michaels to super kick his son, Hulk Hogan had also suggested making degrading remarks about his daughter to get more heat. Michaels ended up turning down both ideas.



I actually thought Shawn was going to do that that one time Nick Hogan was seen at ringside. I just went "Damn, that kid is going to get beat up by Shawn".

Man, that would've been a great heel moment if he did that :(

[Sabretooth]

Shawn should superkick the whole family :)

[Sabretooth]

I actually thought Shawn was going to do that that one time Nick Hogan was seen at ringside. I just went "Damn, that kid is going to get beat up by Shawn".

Man, that would've been a great heel moment if he did that :(
It's still possible.WWE asked if Shawn wanted to turn heel a few months ago,and he turned it down,but look where he is now.

[John Constantine]

Nah, that would've been too much.

BUt imagine if a couple weeks ago, after Hogan accepted Shawn's challenge, Shawn slowly walked out of the ring and was just standing very close to Nick Hogan. Then all of a sudden "BAM" sweet chin music to Nick. That really would've been kickass :up:

[Sabretooth]

Knowing WWE he would've just said something about screwing Hogan's daughter ;)

[U.S War Machine]

Yeah like kurt Angle having an affair with her.

[Shifty]

But the good thing about Montreal, is that they won't be cheering a lot of the stupid things the WWE produces. :up:

Jericho, Hogan, Angle, Shelton and Matt will get cheered. So one old stupid thing.

[LastSunrise1981]

It's still possible.WWE asked if Shawn wanted to turn heel a few months ago,and he turned it down,but look where he is now.

Would you categorize Shawn as a heel? He still gets some good face pops and does faceish(is that a word?) things at times. In my opinion, I'd view him more as a tweener and is kind of flip-flopping with the role he's playing.

But he's definitely acting more like a heel now. I feel that had to assure him that his "heel" turn wouldn't affect, change, or make his new found Christianity look bad to anyone that is going to watch. He's not cussing up a storm nor is he taking part in any offensive angles, which shows that he's definitely not faking and was serious about a heel turn.

Apparently some of it really isn't an act either. From what I've read on the Chris Jericho Message Board, it's been stated that Shawn really doesn't like Hogan in the slightest and what he's said on TV was more of a shoot than anything else. But now, the question becomes, will he job to Hogan? Will Hogan job to him? Both of their promos has had some serious daggers involved and both appear to hit close to home with them.

I'd really laugh and be shocked if Bret showed up next week.

[TheVileOne]

Really why are people still talking about WWE?

TNA has an AWESOME looking PPV card in a few days.

Joe vs. Styles!

Daniels vs. Aries!

Raven and Sabu vs. Rhino and Jarrett!

[punishermax]

Really why are people still talking about WWE?

TNA has an AWESOME looking PPV card in a few days.

Joe vs. Styles!

Daniels vs. Aries!

Raven and Sabu vs. Rhino and Jarrett!

Because I'm sure a lot of people on here don't/didn't have FSN when Impact was on it, or don't have the computing capacity to watch/download Impact at a reasonable rate, therefore haven't bee able to become fans of TNA. I myself have FSN and I watched Impact, but now their deal ran up and I still run dial up. (I live in the middle of frickin nowhere in Wisconsin so we don't have broadband yet, and DSL is too expensive) So I'm not sure if all this is the reason, but I'm guessing it is.

[Savage]

Just watched the latest episode. Awesome stuff as usual. Especially Rhino vs Sabin. Expected a gore through the table though.:( And Alpha Male's match with Primetime was short but very sweet. An no words can describe Styles vs Williams. Wish more people were in on this but we'll get that coming this fall.

About the PPV, yeah, this card does look awesome. Wish I could see it. I'm still not over just how creative even the lowest level wrestlers can get in this...Damn. WWE in it's PRIME was never this good.

[TheVileOne]

Because I'm sure a lot of people on here don't/didn't have FSN when Impact was on it, or don't have the computing capacity to watch/download Impact at a reasonable rate, therefore haven't bee able to become fans of TNA. I myself have FSN and I watched Impact, but now their deal ran up and I still run dial up. (I live in the middle of frickin nowhere in Wisconsin so we don't have broadband yet, and DSL is too expensive) So I'm not sure if all this is the reason, but I'm guessing it is.

You can still buy the DVD's and read the results :) .

[John Constantine]

Speaking of TNA, where's Teddy Hart now? Is he in ROH?

Cause I just saw the old TNA episode with the Super X Cup and damn, that guy's a great wrestler. Reminds me a lot of Owen Hart :up:

[3dman27]

Because I'm sure a lot of people on here don't/didn't have FSN when Impact was on it, or don't have the computing capacity to watch/download Impact at a reasonable rate, therefore haven't bee able to become fans of TNA. I myself have FSN and I watched Impact, but now their deal ran up and I still run dial up. (I live in the middle of frickin nowhere in Wisconsin so we don't have broadband yet, and DSL is too expensive) So I'm not sure if all this is the reason, but I'm guessing it is.
this seems to be the casei.ve found i can get tna via sun sports tho this week i wont tape it due to a fla football game airing at the same time :spidey:

[Hunter Rider]

You can still buy the DVD's and read the results :) .
Actually no,i can't buy the DVD's as they don't sell them here.and since wrestling is a visual medium,reading results about a bunch of wrestlers i don't know is hardly stimulating
Yes WWE sucks right now and no one thinks that more than me but for a lot of us there are still wrestlers there we like and we all hope the show will turn around,it's alway's better to have 2 promotions than 1 as WWE's current lacidasical state theyve gotten into proves

[3dman27]

Actually no,i can't buy the DVD's as they don't sell them here.and since wrestling is a visual medium,reading results about a bunch of wrestlers i don't know is hardly stimulating
Yes WWE sucks right now and no one thinks that more than me but for a lot of us there are still wrestlers there we like and we all hope the show will turn around,it's alway's better to have 2 promotions than 1 as WWE's current lacidasical state theyve gotten into proves
you have a point hr

[3dman27]

i just read that thers a movement in progress to have the wwe banned in vermont
my source is [url]www.lordsofpain.net
it seemd some people are up in arms at seemingly adult content on wwe shows lately and don't want their kids watching it :spidey:

[WildChild]

i just read that thers a movement in progress to have the wwe banned in vermont
my source is [url]www.lordsofpain.net
it seemd some people are up in arms at seemingly adult content on wwe shows lately and don't want their kids watching it :spidey:
My god people are Dumb.If you don't want your kids watching, it then don't let them.Back in the day they called it being a parent.

[GLfan]

I find this note on Josh Matthews ironic, considering that he didn't win the Tough Enough contest. But they signed him to a contract and has since outlasted the other former Tough Enough contestants.

There’s an article online by The Northwest Indiana News on WWE announcer Josh Matthews. The article talks about Matthews making it into WWE and even being a contestant on the first season of Tough Enough

[Metamorpho1977]

Would you categorize Shawn as a heel? He still gets some good face pops and does faceish(is that a word?) things at times. In my opinion, I'd view him more as a tweener and is kind of flip-flopping with the role he's playing.

But he's definitely acting more like a heel now. I feel that had to assure him that his "heel" turn wouldn't affect, change, or make his new found Christianity look bad to anyone that is going to watch. He's not cussing up a storm nor is he taking part in any offensive angles, which shows that he's definitely not faking and was serious about a heel turn.

Apparently some of it really isn't an act either. From what I've read on the Chris Jericho Message Board, it's been stated that Shawn really doesn't like Hogan in the slightest and what he's said on TV was more of a shoot than anything else. But now, the question becomes, will he job to Hogan? Will Hogan job to him? Both of their promos has had some serious daggers involved and both appear to hit close to home with them.

I'd really laugh and be shocked if Bret showed up next week.

Is it really a heel turn ifhe's speaking the truth? And speaking the truth is just what Christianity teaches him.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Anyone find Cena's new music video surprisingly entertaining?

[TheVileOne]

Actually no,i can't buy the DVD's as they don't sell them here.and since wrestling is a visual medium,reading results about a bunch of wrestlers i don't know is hardly stimulating
Yes WWE sucks right now and no one thinks that more than me but for a lot of us there are still wrestlers there we like and we all hope the show will turn around,it's alway's better to have 2 promotions than 1 as WWE's current lacidasical state theyve gotten into proves

Highspots and TNA.com ship overseas :) .

[Hunter Rider]

Highspots and TNA.com ship overseas :) .

I would still need a NSTC playback DVD player and TV ,i currently have neither
My hope is that when the show starts again my Cable company will carry the channel it's on and if it's a hit the old DVD's will start being sold over here is Region 2 format

[Sabretooth]

Anyone find Cena's new music video surprisingly entertaining?
He looks the exact same in the face as he did when he was like 5 years old.

[Jason Blood]

I think it's bull**** that Edge can get away with calling Matt Hardy a whiner, when THAT'S ALL EDGE DOES AS A HEEL

[WildChild]

I think it's bull**** that Edge can get away with calling Matt Hardy a whiner, when THAT'S ALL EDGE DOES AS A HEEL
Yeah that's true.

[Sabretooth]

I think it's bull**** that Edge can get away with calling Matt Hardy a whiner, when THAT'S ALL EDGE DOES AS A HEEL
Most heels whine.But,you have to admit,Matt sorta brought this entire thing on himself.He was the one who made it public....

[Hunter Rider]

Most heels whine.But,you have to admit,Matt sorta brought this entire thing on himself.He was the one who made it public....

yeah,the promo's are shoots,and in truth Edge buried Matt with his,Matt sounded really over the top in his with all that kid stuff,he is young enough to find another chick to mate with
Matt is moraly in the right here but the comments about how professionaly this is the best thing ever to happen to Matt were on the money,he's never been this over and he is riding Edge's coat tails into a main event match

[Jason Blood]

Most heels whine.But,you have to admit,Matt sorta brought this entire thing on himself.He was the one who made it public....
I remember when Edge turned heel, people compared him to Raven, except that he would do that thing where he would tense up and almost look like he was about to have an aneurism

he would always say stuff like, "I should have a title shot"

[Sabretooth]

Damn.I actually kinda.......like Cena's new music video :eek:

[John Constantine]

I remember when Edge turned heel, people compared him to Raven, except that he would do that thing where he would tense up and almost look like he was about to have an aneurism

he would always say stuff like, "I should have a title shot"

Yeah, I kinda thought Edge was trying a bit too hard when he was whining. At least with Raven it seemed more natural. But then again, Raven >>>> Edge :up:

[0neDisturbedSOB]

He looks the exact same in the face as he did when he was like 5 years old.

Exactly what I was thinking. Kinda odd to see a current WWE wrestler that was passionate about the business when he was a kid.

[3dman27]

i read the smackdown results this morning with all this child custody nonsense i'm GLAD i skipped it for football

[Metamorpho1977]

Anyone find Cena's new music video surprisingly entertaining?

It's odd to see a rapper with a video that actually has some kind of positive message.

[John Constantine]

Judging by the 9/18 Smackdown brand house show card in Tyler, TX, it looks as if the following feuds will continue past Summerslam. Batista vs. JBL World Heavyweight Title match and a Rey Mysterio vs. Eddie Guerrero Street Fight. As always, card is subject to change.

Credit: PWInsider.com

****, I hope these feuds really don't continue past Summerslam. I'm bored enough with them anyways. Especially with the Rey-Eddie saga :(

[kane9321]

i'm soo sick of this eddie rey crap please go away.And for the love of all thats holy..please stop showing that chick with that,that thing on her face..my god.If u have to zoom in on her do it from her good side at least....her body is banging though..lol

[John Constantine]

Me too. I'm especially tired of the way it took 20 ****ing minutes for that social worker (or whatever she is) to make that decision about Dominic. I just wish the two would have their final battle at summerslam so that both wrestlers can continue on with other feuds. Maybe a US title reign for Rey and a feud with Benoit/title shot for Eddie.....

[Sabretooth]

I'm so sick of this Eddie-Rey feud too.It should've ended the week before this ''secret'' crap happened.The custody thing last night was so god damn boring.I was about to change the channel.

And as for the JBL-Batista feud,No suprise there :rolleyes:

[John Constantine]

All-in-all, I'm a bit bored with Smackdown these days. I honestly don't know why they couldn't at least have put the London-Nunzio angle or bring Frankie Kazarian to Smackdown.

The only thing that peaks my interest in the show these days is probably the Mexicools.....

[Hunter Rider]

your both spot on:( :up:

Rey/Eddie is still always an in ring treat but the angle is not only stupid as you can see the kid is Rey's but also boring as it's being going on in one form or another since before wrestlemania
I think they need to remerge the brands,there isnt the talent to cover 2 shows IMO

[Sabretooth]

I wish bWo would show up more often.:( And yeah,the Mexicools rule :up:

I'm really just watching it for Orton and Christian,though Christian is in the middle of nowhere :(

[John Constantine]

I think they're planning on doing that once Smackdown is done Fall 2006. Probably why they purged so much talent in the first place.....

And I don't really mind the Rey-Eddie feud at first because it kinda had a beginning-middle-end to it. But the addition of this whole custody battle and the fact that the feud may continue on past Summerslam is just bugging the hell out of me.

[John Constantine]

I wish bWo would show up more often.:( And yeah,the Mexicools rule :up:

I'm really just watching it for Orton and Christian,though Christian is in the middle of nowhere :(

Yeah, Orton and Christian are also reasons why I continue to watch Smackdown as well.

And call me crazy, but I'm kinda digging Orton's theme music now :o

[Sabretooth]

your both spot on:( :up:

Rey/Eddie is still always an in ring treat but the angle is not only stupid as you can see the kid is Rey's but also boring as it's being going on in one form or another since before wrestlemania
I think they need to remerge the brands,there isnt the talent to cover 2 shows IMO
It could work if they had two seperate brands.The problem is,they're not confident in most of the wrestlers,so they have veterans (Undertaker,HHH,and JBL) in the main event,and they keep the other guys in long ass feuds because they don't know what else to do with them.:(

[Hunter Rider]

It could work if they had two seperate brands.The problem is,they're not confident in most of the wrestlers,so they have veterans (Undertaker,HHH,and JBL) in the main event,and they keep the other guys in long ass feuds because they don't know what else to do with them.:(

At the moment i can only see about 6-7 guys making the cut to RAW,theyve spread things so thin and downgraded guys like christian so much that there are very few options left

[Sabretooth]

That's the problem with merging the two brands.Mid carders like Benoit,Eddie,Rey,and Christian would seriously be nowhere.I wish they'd have the guys I mentioned go to the US division,and they could even alternate between the US and World titles :up:

[John Constantine]

In a perfect situation for Smackdown, I would have Orton, Benoit, Eddie, Christian, and maybe Batista in the World title picture.

JBL has done as much as he could in the main event picture, I think he should be depushed....

[Hunter Rider]

the sad thing is that Eddie,Benoit and christian should not be mid carders IMO
The one thing SD needs to do is get the US strap on Benoit and set up a feud with christian although i feel the WWE have basicaly given up on CC:(

[Sabretooth]

Another person who needs to get pushed is Shelton.I mean,he looked like he was about to go somewhere after he beat HHH like two or three times.They should have him work on his mic skills,tell him to lay off the high flying moves a bit,and then start pushing him :up:

Honestly,I don't know why Christian is still in WWE.A while ago I remember him arguing about not getting his push,and I can't blame him.He deserves a nice title reign alot more than half of the people in the main event right now.

[John Constantine]

The same reason why Jericho and RVD and many others (including Spanky who left the WWE in the first place because he was unhappy) stayed with the WWE......

[Sabretooth]

RVD was about to leave last year,but then WWE coughed up even more money and gave him a shot at the US title,and he stayed.Hasn't been used properly ever since.:(

[John Constantine]

Yeah, he was about to. Just like how Jericho was about to leave as well. Honestly, the wrestlers must care more about the money sometimes. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I read a little while ago that if you're in the main event for Wrestlemania, you make $500,000. Just for one match :eek:

That's probably why guys stick around in the WWE, look at the money you could be offered plus a bit of the merchandising dough...:o

[Sabretooth]

Jesus!500,000 dollars?:eek:

People like Cena must have it made.:o :up:

[Hunter Rider]

If you are in a huge WM main event like Austin/Rock WM15 the paycheck is closer to $1M:eek:

I would give up on shelton and CC,it is looking like WWE are intent on pushing Masters over Benjamin and everyone over CC:(

I tell ya WM22

SD-world title-Batista vs Orton
Raw-wwe title-Cena vs Masters

[John Constantine]

Jesus!500,000 dollars?:eek:

People like Cena must have it made.:o :up:

Probably. Making that much money, why would guys like Jericho want to leave the WWE? Sure they're being shat on. But they're getting the last laugh because the WWE is paying them for basically doing nothing.....

[John Constantine]

If you are in a huge WM main event like Austin/Rock WM15 the paycheck is closer to $1M:eek:

I would give up on shelton and CC,it is looking like WWE are intent on pushing Masters over Benjamin and everyone over CC:(

I tell ya WM22

SD-world title-Batista vs Orton
Raw-wwe title-Cena vs Masters

Unless Lesner comes back, which could then be Batista versus Lesner.

I was hoping the WWE title match for WM22 might be Cena versus Angle, but it seems like they're going to do that for post-Summerslam instead :(

[Sabretooth]

Batista vs. Orton could actually be pretty good.Though,that would mean Batista would be champ for a whole year.As much as I enjoy Batista as champ,I wouldn't want him to be champ for that long.:o

[Sabretooth]

Probably. Making that much money, why would guys like Jericho want to leave the WWE? Sure they're being shat on. But they're getting the last laugh because the WWE is paying them for basically doing nothing.....
AND they can say bad things about wrestlers without having to worry about getting screwed over,because they already are getting screwed over.:) :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Unless Lesner comes back, which could then be Batista versus Lesner.

I was hoping the WWE title match for WM22 might be Cena versus Angle, but it seems like they're going to do that for post-Summerslam instead :(

Jesus:eek: I was hoping you would dispell my cena vs Masters match:(

Cena vs Angle ? still wouldve sucked IMO

I'd rather have Orton vs Lesnar,im already weary of Batista as champ

[John Constantine]

AND they can say bad things about wrestlers without having to worry about getting screwed over,because they already are getting screwed over.:) :up:

Yep. Plus, this way, Jericho can advertise his ****ty band on Raw. Probably also why the Rock still wants to maintain ties with the WWE as well.....

[Sabretooth]

Jesus:eek: I was hoping you would dispell my cena vs Masters match:(

Cena vs Angle ? still wouldve sucked IMO

I'd rather have Orton vs Lesnar,im already weary of Batista as champ
Cena vs. Angle would not have sucked.Angle can make ANYBODY look good in the ring.Including Cena.


*prays for RVD vs. Shawn at WM 22* :(

[John Constantine]

Jesus:eek: I was hoping you would dispell my cena vs Masters match:(

Cena vs Angle ? still wouldve sucked IMO

I'd rather have Orton vs Lesnar,im already weary of Batista as champ

Nah. It seems like the WWE is pretty high on Masters. I don't really see him as a main-eventer though. But then again, 18 months ago, if I told you that Batista was going to main event Wrestlemania 21, would you have believed me?

[Sabretooth]

If they made Heidenreich tag team champion,it's obvious they'll give Masters some gold :(

[Hunter Rider]

Cena vs. Angle would not have sucked.Angle can make ANYBODY look good in the ring.Including Cena.


*prays for RVD vs. Shawn at WM 22* :(

even angle cant make gold outve ****,no matter what he did Cena would **** it up,and the match would still be little more than a missed oppertunity to have Kurt wrestle someone good

*joins the praying*:o

[Hunter Rider]

Nah. It seems like the WWE is pretty high on Masters. I don't really see him as a main-eventer though. But then again, 18 months ago, if I told you that Batista was going to main event Wrestlemania 21, would you have believed me?
No,but at the same time he was never as god awful as Masters,The guy can't mic work,he can't wrestle,he's a million dollar body 10 cent brain guy.......he'll be champ in the next year:mad: :( :down

[Sabretooth]

Well,with the way they have him go over friggin SHelton every week now,and make the Masterlock look threatening,they're trying to make something out of him.Maybe in two years,he could be good,but he shouldn't be main eventing WM22.:o

[John Constantine]

No,but at the same time he was never as god awful as Masters,The guy can't mic work,he can't wrestle,he's a million dollar body 10 cent brain guy.......he'll be champ in the next year:mad: :( :down

It's not like Batista was much better either. The only thing Batista had going for him a year ago was his physique and his tattoos. In fact, you could say he was in the same situation Masters was. :o

But sometime around January, they slowly teased a face turn and he broke out.

Ten bucks says they turn Masters face and have a Masters Express in which he tours America petition to get a title shot ;) :D

[Sabretooth]

even angle cant make gold outve ****,no matter what he did Cena would **** it up,and the match would still be little more than a missed oppertunity to have Kurt wrestle someone good

*joins the praying*:oI'm guessing you haven't seen any of their matches?They were actually pretty good.They have some history,they'll be be wrestling for the title,whether it be WM 22 or some other PPV.:o

[Hunter Rider]

It's not like Batista was much better either. The only thing Batista had going for him a year ago was his physique and his tattoos. In fact, you could say he was in the same situation Masters was. :o

But sometime around January, they slowly teased a face turn and he broke out.

Ten bucks says they turn Masters face and have a Masters Express in which he tours America petition to get a title shot ;) :D

OMG don't even joke :mad: :p
seriuosly though,mic-wise at least Batista never slipped and in the ring he was always better timing and delivery wise IMO

[John Constantine]

Well,with the way they have him go over friggin SHelton every week now,and make the Masterlock look threatening,they're trying to make something out of him.Maybe in two years,he could be good,but he shouldn't be main eventing WM22.:o

No, he's definitely not going to main event by that time. WM22 is going to be about Cena regaining the WWE title :o

[Sabretooth]

It's not like Batista was much better either. The only thing Batista had going for him a year ago was his physique and his tattoos. In fact, you could say he was in the same situation Masters was. :o

But sometime around January, they slowly teased a face turn and he broke out.

Ten bucks says they turn Masters face and have a Masters Express in which he tours America petition to get a title shot ;) :D
I can actually see them doing that :(

[Hunter Rider]

I'm guessing you haven't seen any of their matches?They were actually pretty good.They have some history,they'll be be wrestling for the title,whether it be WM 22 or some other PPV.:o

:confused: Ive seen there matches ,Cena has never had a good match ever ,there all sub-par with no high spots or skill with awful timing and terrible technique
Yes Angle can improve anyone but except Cena's debut match Angle has never turned him into anything more than mediocre

[Twitch]

*prays for RVD vs. Shawn at WM 22* :(

Ladder Match :up:

I think at Wrestlmania the Mid-Carders should try to steal the show, I mean look at last year.

Angle vs. HBK

Shelton, Jericho, Edge, CC, Benoit, and Kane paticipated in a great ladder match. (Edge hasn't used his title shot yet :rolleyes:

Also one of the greatest Wrestlemania matches ever Steamboat vs. Savage :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Ladder Match :up:

I think at Wrestlmania the Mid-Carders should try to steal the show, I mean look at last year.

Angle vs. HBK

Shelton, Jericho, Edge, CC, Benoit, and Kane paticipated in a great ladder match. (Edge hasn't used his title shot yet :rolleyes:)

Also one of the greatest Wrestlemania matches ever Steamboat vs. Savage :up:

HBK vs RVD for the wwe title:up:

[Sabretooth]

If RVD and HBK do go at it at WM 22,I doubt it'll be a ladder match.I can see the doing the Money in the Bank match again,and while two ladder matches could be cool,it would be repetitive.

[John Constantine]

If RVD and HBK do go at it at WM 22,I doubt it'll be a ladder match.I can see the doing the Money in the Bank match again,and while two ladder matches could be cool,it would be repetitive.

Actually, I think it might be a ladder match. Shawn has always wanted to do a ladder match with RVD, but the WWE always nixed the idea. With Shawn a heel now, it does seem plausible.

[Sabretooth]

Actually, I think it might be a ladder match. Shawn has always wanted to do a ladder match with RVD, but the WWE always nixed the idea. With Shawn a heel now, it does seem plausible.
Well,it definitely could happen,it's just the Money in the Bank match may happen again....

[John Constantine]

Well,it definitely could happen,it's just the Money in the Bank match may happen again....

Yeah. But with Shawn, I think he'd rather have a one-on-one match with RVD. It could be for something similar to Money in the Bank. But I think we'll just see a match with those two.....

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah. But with Shawn, I think he'd rather have a one-on-one match with RVD. It could be for something similar to Money in the Bank. But I think we'll just see a match with those two.....

I'm not so sure,isnt RVD schedueld to put Carlito over when he gets back ?

[John Constantine]

I'm not so sure,isnt RVD schedueld to put Carlito over when he gets back ?

Yeah. But there's still plenty of time to set up a feud with Michaels in 2006 :)

[Sabretooth]

yeah,but RVD shouldn't be out so long that he gets back in time for WM 22 and then gets his revenge on Carlito.He should feud with Carlito,have another feud or just go ahead and start up his feud with Shawn.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah. But there's still plenty of time to set up a feud with Michaels in 2006 :)

It would seem kinda pointless though,i mean if he can't beat Carlito why bother putting him over HBK,the only reason to put RVD over HBK is to prep RVD for a world title win IMO

[Twitch]

I wouldn't mind if They had a triple threat match between RVD, HBK, and Shelton. Hell I wouldn't care if they did a rehash of the Wrestmania 20 storyline. :o

[Hunter Rider]

yeah,but RVD shouldn't be out so long that he gets back in time for WM 22 and then gets his revenge on Carlito.He should feud with Carlito,have another feud or just go ahead and start up his feud with Shawn.

what they should do is have a triple threat at survivor series between Cena/HBK/Angle and have HBK win then set up a RVD vs HBK wwe title feud for WM22

[John Constantine]

It would seem kinda pointless though,i mean if he can't beat Carlito why bother putting him over HBK,the only reason to put RVD over HBK is to prep RVD for a world title win IMO

Have Carlito beat RVD by cheating (again). That way, RVD can still brag that Carlito only beat him by cheating his way out of the match. Just because he lost to someone doesn't mean he can't main-event.

Look at Randy Orton. He lost the IC title to Edge and the day after he won a battle royal to get a title shot.

You can always set it up that RVD still thinks he's the best and no one can beat him. That sends Shawn out there and they set up a feud with the Money in the Bank match between the two.

[Hunter Rider]

Have Carlito beat RVD by cheating (again). That way, RVD can still brag that Carlito only beat him by cheating his way out of the match. Just because he lost to someone doesn't mean he can't main-event.

Look at Randy Orton. He lost the IC title to Edge and the day after he won a battle royal to get a title shot.

You can always set it up that RVD still thinks he's the best and no one can beat him. That sends Shawn out there and they set up a feud with the Money in the Bank match between the two.

the huge difference though is that Edge is a credible star,so the defeat has less shame,IMO RVD should just demolish Carlito non title and then move onto HBK

[Twitch]

what they should do is have a triple threat at survivor series between Cena/HBK/Angle and have HBK win then set up a RVD vs HBK wwe title feud for WM22

We will stand behind HBK, but remember his credibility might be ruined by Hogan :down

[Sabretooth]

And,HBK and HHH have jobeed at the two last Wrestlemanias,but they still get pushed.

[Sabretooth]

the huge difference though is that Edge is a credible star,so the defeat has less shame,IMO RVD should just demolish Carlito non title and then move onto HBK
Carlito is a credible star.They just pass him off as a coward heel.He was pretty good in his matches with Cena the past 2 weeks...

[Hunter Rider]

We will stand behind HBK, but remember his credibility might be ruined by Hogan :down

:( :up: so true,i read an article the other day that said he had to work out a strategy to make up for the fact that Hogan can barely move,having a guy that can't move in a main event just show's why wwe sucks so much right now

[John Constantine]

the huge difference though is that Edge is a credible star,so the defeat has less shame,IMO RVD should just demolish Carlito non title and then move onto HBK

That could happen. I see it more possible that Carlito wins by cheating again :o

That way, Carlito has a victory over RVD, but through a dirty tactic. So his gimmick of only getting a win through cheating is still intact. But RVD can still be seen as credible because he could've beaten Carlito if not for certain factors.

It's a win-win situation for both wrestlers IMO. Plus, it could then end the feud between the two and help to set up a feud with Shawn for a WWE title match. One that (maybe) has RVD go over so he could go for the WWE title after Wrestlemania....

[John Constantine]

Carlito is a credible star.They just pass him off as a coward heel.He was pretty good in his matches with Cena the past 2 weeks...

Exactly. That's the way they're building him at the moment. Every match, it seems like he's going to get beat, but he manages to squeak out a victory. It's a good gimmick for him IMO.

[Hunter Rider]

Carlito is a credible star.They just pass him off as a coward heel.He was pretty good in his matches with Cena the past 2 weeks...

hmmmmmm i really don't see Carlito as credible,he has never really had a match of any worth yet,he's another 90% gimmick guy,the matches with Cena i admit he tried hard but Cena killed his spots
I was hoping a carlito/Benjamin feud may go to Summerslam and perhaps Carlito could improve more

[Twitch]

And,HBK and HHH have jobeed at the two last Wrestlemanias,but they still get pushed.

There's a diffrence they are good wrerstlers and brush that off because they jobbed to a guy with actual talent and is worthy of the title. If he jobs to Hogan there wouldn't much sense to put RVD or Shelton over in the future :(

[Hunter Rider]

That could happen. I see it more possible that Carlito wins by cheating again :o

That way, Carlito has a victory over RVD, but through a dirty tactic. So his gimmick of only getting a win through cheating is still intact. But RVD can still be seen as credible because he could've beaten Carlito if not for certain factors.

It's a win-win situation for both wrestlers IMO. Plus, it could then end the feud between the two and help to set up a feud with Shawn for a WWE title match. One that (maybe) has RVD go over so he could go for the WWE title after Wrestlemania....
I guess it comes down to the fact i just see Carlito as another waste of time that WWE are pushing cos he can mic work
As for RVD going for the title after Mania ,that would mean going most likely against Cena:( :(

[John Constantine]

hmmmmmm i really don't see Carlito as credible,he has never really had a match of any worth yet,he's another 90% gimmick guy,the matches with Cena i admit he tried hard but Cena killed his spots
I was hoping a carlito/Benjamin feud may go to Summerslam and perhaps Carlito could improve more

That's probably because he really hasn't fought against any good wrestler. His few matches with Benjamin, they had him be the cowardly heel. He can wrestle though, as seen with his matches with Cena a couple weeks back.

[Hunter Rider]

That's probably because he really hasn't fought against any good wrestler. His few matches with Benjamin, they had him be the cowardly heel. He can wrestle though, as seen with his matches with Cena a couple weeks back.

he needs to go bact to OVW for a year and tune up IMO

[John Constantine]

I guess it comes down to the fact i just see Carlito as another waste of time that WWE are pushing cos he can mic work
As for RVD going for the title after Mania ,that would mean going most likely against Cena:( :(

I actually see Carlito as one of the few bright spots on Raw. Like I previously said, he can wrestle if he wants to. He's also one of the best guys on the mic at the moment. And he has a unique look. If they push him just right, I could actually see him in the main event in the future......

[Twitch]

:( :up: so true,i read an article the other day that said he had to work out a strategy to make up for the fact that Hogan can barely move,having a guy that can't move in a main event just show's why wwe sucks so much right now

HBK is at least trying to make this fuend work :(:up:

[Sabretooth]

Well,there's no way Hogan will lose.Do you really think he'd come back just to get his ass kicked,as well as let HBK talk about backstage Hogan,and then not win at SS?Sadly,HBK doesn't have a chance.:(

[John Constantine]

he needs to go bact to OVW for a year and tune up IMO

Nah. He just needs more time and a few more matches under his belt. He hasn't even been in the WWE for a year. If they keep him in the midcard for another year or two, I could see him improving greatly.

[Sabretooth]

he needs to go bact to OVW for a year and tune up IMO
Nah,he just needs an opponent who can help get his in ring work to shine,and RVD is pretty much perfect for that job.:o

[Hunter Rider]

I actually see Carlito as one of the few bright spots on Raw. Like I previously said, he can wrestle if he wants to. He's also one of the best guys on the mic at the moment. And he has a unique look. If they push him just right, I could actually see him in the main event in the future......

:( i guess we'll just have to wait and see,at the moment i see a guy with mediocre technique and virtually no high spots in his repotoire not to mention no finisher,I don't see a guy id pay a cent to see

[Hunter Rider]

Well,there's no way Hogan will lose.Do you really think he'd come back just to get his ass kicked,as well as let HBK talk about backstage Hogan,and then not win at SS?Sadly,HBK doesn't have a chance.:(

Your right although he did lose to Rock,Angle and Taker so who knows

[Hunter Rider]

Nah. He just needs more time and a few more matches under his belt. He hasn't even been in the WWE for a year. If they keep him in the midcard for another year or two, I could see him improving greatly.

the thing is talented guys are sacrificing for him and im not sure he's worth it

[John Constantine]

:( i guess we'll just have to wait and see,at the moment i see a guy with mediocre technique and virtually no high spots in his repotoire not to mention no finisher,I don't see a guy id pay a cent to see

It's not like he really needs high-spots though. Seriously, look at him like another Ric Flair.....or another JBL. This is a guy who fans will want to see lose his title, but he manages to win at everytime.

Of all the latest OVW call-ups, I think Carlito's the one who might be the biggest star. He just needs another bodyguard. Tyson TOmko maybe? :o

[Sabretooth]

It's not like he really needs high-spots though. Seriously, look at him like another Ric Flair.....or another JBL. This is a guy who fans will want to see lose his title, but he manages to win at everytime.

Of all the latest OVW call-ups, I think Carlito's the one who might be the biggest star. He just needs another bodyguard. Tyson TOmko maybe? :o
Oh god no!I HATE Tomko.They should've kept Morgan,dammit! :mad: :(

[John Constantine]

the thing is talented guys are sacrificing for him and im not sure he's worth it

I think he is. By having wrestlers like Benjamin or RVD go over him, it just helps build on his repertoire that he could feasibly beat these guys. It just helps make him look a bit more credible.

That's how much I believe that Carlito could be a main-eventer in a few years time :up:

[John Constantine]

Oh god no!I HATE Tomko.They should've kept Morgan,dammit! :mad: :(

I know. But since Morgan is gone, and Tomko is basically good for nothing except stand around and look menacing, he would be perfect for Carlito's new bodyguard :up:

[Sabretooth]

I wonder whatever happened to Carlito's first bodyguard,Jesus. I remember he went against Cena in one match,and then they released him.:confused:

[Twitch]

Well,there's no way Hogan will lose.Do you really think he'd come back just to get his ass kicked,as well as let HBK talk about backstage Hogan,and then not win at SS?Sadly,HBK doesn't have a chance.:(

That's the problem if Hogan wins he's caused the demise of the WWE :(
HBk is the only guy that has ablity to go high-flying and can hold his own with RVD and Shelton in a match. When he puts RVD and Shelton over the general fan won't see as belivable :(. IF the WWE doen't get there act together, and TNA plays their cards right. TNA will leave WWE in the dust in a couple of years. :(

[Hunter Rider]

It's not like he really needs high-spots though. Seriously, look at him like another Ric Flair.....or another JBL. This is a guy who fans will want to see lose his title, but he manages to win at everytime.

Of all the latest OVW call-ups, I think Carlito's the one who might be the biggest star. He just needs another bodyguard. Tyson TOmko maybe? :o

Blasphemy :mad: Carlito in the same sentence as Flair????:eek: :mad: :p

[John Constantine]

I wonder whatever happened to Carlito's first bodyguard,Jesus. I remember he went against Cena in one match,and then they released him.:confused:

After that match with Cena, he had some very severe injuries.

Actually, it doesn't pay to be Carlito's bodyguard :(

[John Constantine]

Blasphemy :mad: Carlito in the same sentence as Flair????:eek: :mad: :p

That's who they're trying to play him off as though. Another Ric Flair......plus at least he's not the prototypical muscle-head Vince seems to love.

[Sabretooth]

I dunno, I doubt they'll have Hogan completely squash HBK.I mean,HBK's always saying things like 'What'cha gonna do when Shawn Michaels won't lay down for you?' and then he always talks about the real life Hogan.I'm sure Hogan will win,but I don't think it'll be a squash match.

[Hunter Rider]

I think he is. By having wrestlers like Benjamin or RVD go over him, it just helps build on his repertoire that he could feasibly beat these guys. It just helps make him look a bit more credible.

That's how much I believe that Carlito could be a main-eventer in a few years time :up:

I respect your opinion i just can't see it at the moment,he hasnt proven anything to yet;)

[Sabretooth]

Blasphemy :mad: Carlito in the same sentence as Flair????:eek: :mad: :p
Ya know what's funny about this?hunter rider put Carlito and Flair in the same sentence as well :D

[John Constantine]

I respect your opinion i just can't see it at the moment,he hasnt proven anything to yet;)

Give him time. Like I said, he's only been in the WWE for less than a year. You expect him to be another Kurt Angle? :p

[Hunter Rider]

That's who they're trying to play him off as though. Another Ric Flair......plus at least he's not the prototypical muscle-head Vince seems to love.

Yeah but he aint no Flair either:o Yes he isnt a muscle head but hes not really a technical or high flying wrestler either ,he's just there at the moment IMO

[Sabretooth]

Even Kurt wasn't that great when he started.He was actually pretty boring to be honest.But now,he's the second (or third?) biggest heel in WWE.

[Hunter Rider]

Give him time. Like I said, he's only been in the WWE for less than a year. You expect him to be another Kurt Angle? :p

No but i expect him to be good if he has the IC belt:D I'll give him time i guess,it's not like he sucks worse than the other crap on RAW right now:(

[John Constantine]

Even Kurt wasn't that great when he started.He was actually pretty boring to be honest.But now,he's the second (or third?) biggest heel in WWE.

Kurt was a bit boring initially, but after a couple months, he settled nicely. What's ****ing amazing about him was that in one year he won like the King of the Ring, IC, Euro, and WWE title and he was seen as credible in all the categories. One year.

[Hunter Rider]

Ya know what's funny about this?hunter rider put Carlito and Flair in the same sentence as well :D

BUT...But...But....damn:mad: :p

[Sabretooth]

No but i expect him to be good if he has the IC belt:D I'll give him time i guess,it's not like he sucks worse than the other crap on RAW right now:(
The titles honestly don't mean **** anymore.Vince even said Cena and Batista are the champs because he couldn't find anybody else.The IC title is no different.

[John Constantine]

No but i expect him to be good if he has the IC belt:D I'll give him time i guess,it's not like he sucks worse than the other crap on RAW right now:(

Yep. He's a pretty good wrestler for someone coming out of OVW (which really hasn't had any good workers come out of it since Lesner, Benjamin, Haas, and Rico) and he can talk the **** out of the majority of the OVW newcomers as well....

[Sabretooth]

OVW is pretty much crap.Batista said he didn't learn **** while he was there,and instead learned everything he does in one day somewhere else.

Honestly,the new line of people coming from OVW looks like crap.I hear The boogeyman is just as bad as Heidenreich,and of course Mordecai started way too early,and ended up back in OVW again.

[Twitch]

The titles honestly don't mean **** anymore.Vince even said Cena and Batista are the champs because he couldn't find anybody else.The IC title is no different.

IC title had its glory

HBK vs. Razor Ladder Match for the title at Summerslam :(:up:

That's what I like about TNA they treat the wrestlers and the titles with respect. They always seem to know who is most derserving of a win at a PPV :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. He's a pretty good wrestler for someone coming out of OVW (which really hasn't had any good workers come out of it since Lesner, Benjamin, Haas, and Rico) and he can talk the **** out of the majority of the OVW newcomers as well....

I hear there are one or two good prospects at OVW right now

[John Constantine]

OVW is pretty much crap.Batista said he didn't learn **** while he was there,and instead learned everything he does in one day somewhere else.

Honestly,the new line of people coming from OVW looks like crap.I hear The boogeyman is just as bad as Heidenreich,and of course Mordecai started way too early,and ended up back in OVW again.

That's because they're all the same people coming from OVW. Guys with a lot of muscle and tattoos and little else.

Another reason why Carlito rocks. He's way different from the OVW mold. He just needs a little more time working the midcard....

[Sabretooth]

IC title had its glory

HBK vs. Razor Ladder Match for the title at Summerslam :(:up:

That's what I like about TNA they treat the wrestlers and the titles with respect. They always seem to know who is most derserving of a win at a PPV :up:
Plus they make the X-Division just as important as the heavyweight division.If only WWE did that with the cruiserweights :(

[John Constantine]

I hear there are one or two good prospects at OVW right now

I hope so. Or else the WWE should just cancel the agreement they have with them. It's such a waste of time and effort if they keep bringing up the same old guys every time.

[Hunter Rider]

The titles honestly don't mean **** anymore.Vince even said Cena and Batista are the champs because he couldn't find anybody else.The IC title is no different.

yeah but before Carlito,RVD,Orton,Y2J and Shelton had brought some cred to the belt
and HHH kept the world title scene credible

[Sabretooth]

They should cancel the agreement and just start pushing people like the Mexicools,London,and Kazarian.

[John Constantine]

No, I'm just saying they should maybe look at other feds as their minor league.....kinda like what ECW was before....

[Twitch]

Plus they make the X-Division just as important as the heavyweight division.If only WWE did that with the cruiserweights :(

WWE will never survive TNA unless They are willing to put the cruiserweights and RVD, Hardy, and Shelton in high-risk matches but that will never happen :(

[Sabretooth]

Yeah,but most of the good guys that came out of OVW are being wasted,and the crappy ones are either being pushed or are debuting when they're underdeveloped.

[John Constantine]

WWE will never survive TNA unless They are willing to put the cruiserweights and RVD, Hardy, and Shelton in high-risk matches but that will never happen :(

Vince has beaten the likes of WCW and ECW. I honestly doubt he'll let TNA beat him.....

[Sabretooth]

Vince has beaten the likes of WCW and ECW. I honestly doubt he'll let TNA beat him.....
It's gonna be sad when TNA bites the dust.WHich,I hope doesn't happen,but I mean,WWE is too big to lose :(

[John Constantine]

It's gonna be sad when TNA bites the dust.WHich,I hope doesn't happen,but I mean,WWE is too big to lose :(

I dunno about that. TNA may compete with WWE one day. But one thing that Vince is is a wrestling mastermind. The WWE is his empire. It's never going to go away no matter what.

[Twitch]

Vince has beaten the likes of WCW and ECW. I honestly doubt he'll let TNA beat him.....

I don't really care if TNA doesn't beat WWE in Ratings, just as long as the put on quality matches and storylines.

BTW WWE Vince buyed out his comptetion :down

[Sabretooth]

I wonder what he's gonna do if TNA starts doing better than WWE.I mean,all the writers write stuff like soap operas and Nickelodeon,Unless he gets in there,they'll stay screwed :confused:

[John Constantine]

I don't really care if TNA doesn't beat WWE in Ratings, just as long as the put on quality matches and storylines.

BTW WWE Vince buyed out his comptetion :down

Yeah, but it's never going to beat out WWE market-wise, which means a lot in the long-run.

And he really didn't buy-out the competition either. He out-smarted them to the point where they couldn't compete anymore......

[John Constantine]

I wonder what he's gonna do if TNA starts doing better than WWE.I mean,all the writers write stuff like soap operas and Nickelodeon,Unless he gets in there,they'll stay screwed :confused:

He'll smarten up and come up with something new. Look at when WCW was kicking his ass, he just lost Bret Hart to the competition, and his number 1 heel was suffering from a serious back injury. He brought up Steve Austin as his number 1 face, started up the whole Attitude era and the WWE became as popular as ever.

[3dman27]

bring in WRESTLING writers not SOAP OPERA writers
or maybe the wwe needs new OWNERS

[Hunter Rider]

He'll smarten up and come up with something new. Look at when WCW was kicking his ass, he just lost Bret Hart to the competition, and his number 1 heel was suffering from a serious back injury. He brought up Steve Austin as his number 1 face, started up the whole Attitude era and the WWE became as popular as ever.
he has the guys he's just not using them properly right now

[John Constantine]

he has the guys he's just not using them properly right now

And that's something he will use once he has some competition.

[Twitch]

Yeah, but it's never going to beat out WWE market-wise, which means a lot in the long-run.

And he really didn't buy-out the competition either. He out-smarted them to the point where they couldn't compete anymore......

Yeah but still I think TNA would still put up good fight IMO and they on are bringing on the next generation of wrestlers :up:

BTW even if TNA gets beat Styles and Daniels won't move towards WWE :up:

[Hunter Rider]

And that's something he will use once he has some competition.

the sooner TNA start hurting WWE the better then:up:

[John Constantine]

Yeah but still I think TNA would still put up good fight IMO and they on are bringing on the next generation of wrestlers :up:

BTW even if TNA gets beat Styles and Daniels won't move towards WWE :up:

They will bring a good fight. And TNA being a threat to the WWE only means the WWE will have to improve their product that much more.

And yeah, I know WWE won't get those two. But just because they don't doesn't mean it's doom for the WWE.

[John Constantine]

the sooner TNA start hurting WWE the better then:up:

Well then you better pray that TNA gets a Monday Night show soon ;)

[Hunter Rider]

Well then you better pray that TNA gets a Monday Night show soon ;)

*prays*:D
I just want to see WWE actually utilise the talented guys they have instead of this constant barage of muscle heads and Cena:o

[Twitch]

I will watch Both shows, this is what the WWE needs something to feed off to give some purpose to their empire. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com Newsletter

While Batista is the WWE World Heavyweight Champion, his role on SmackDown! in recent weeks can best be described, with one or two exceptions, as minimal. According to WWE sources, however, there is a legitimate reason for Batista's low-profile role on the show.

WWE officials largely credit HHH with carrying Batista to acceptable matches during their feud; there exists little faith in Batista's present in-ring artillery. Thus, the feeling is that if Batista appears too often on television, his weaknesses will be rapidly exposed. Live crowds remain very much into Batista, and WWE's standpoint is that it makes little sense to risk such overness.

Despite not rivaling Kurt Angle or Chris Benoit in the ring, however, Batista remains on the good side of WWE management. The champion is praised for possessing a level-head, a great desire to learn and, overall, a very positive backstage attitude.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: WrestlingObserver.com

The Canadian Press ran a national story about Hulk Hogan and his match with Shawn Michaels at SummerSlam. Hogan said the match at SummerSlam is "About me. This is my time. I've always been the man. I don't mean to sound pompous, but it's true." Hogan also claimed Michaels went against the script on the Larry King deal.


Proof that Hogan's ego has made him delusional:rolleyes: :down :o



The prime time TV shows were being discussed on the Fox Sports Radio Network yesterday morning, and SmackDown! was inevitably discussed. The hosts mentioned that the main storyline playing out on the brand was a custody angle for Dominick. The other host also said, "Stephanie McMahon is killing the sport."

The Truth:(

[Super Kal]

i missed Smackdown last week, and I didn't feel a single bit of remorse because of it. I now despise Smackdown. I see no point in it, and it seems that most of the people here probably agree with me.

[Super Kal]

The Truth:(

where does Stephanie McMahon come into place with all of this?

[Hunter Rider]

where does Stephanie McMahon come into place with all of this?

She's head of creative and has pioneered the soapy crap currently infesting WWE television such as the Diva search,the custody battle,the chick with the huge wart,Eugene, and battle of the bands to name a few

[The Ghoul]

She's head of creative and has pioneered the soapy crap currently infesting WWE television such as the Diva search,the custody battle,the chick with the huge wart,Eugene, and battle of the bands to name a few

This is pissing me off, either people don't know or are to stuburn to recognize it when ever mentioned, but Rey & Eddie wrote this angle themselves not the creative department. It's mentione in many interviews & even people who are suppossed to be insider jounalist don't pay attention to it.

Anyway, did anyone see Jericho on "Weekends at the DL?" He was so friggin funny. Comedian Patrice O' Neal was also on & I was suprised he never mention the he was a WWE writer during the atitude era. But there was no mention of Summerslam or anything it was purley just about having fun for Chris & he proved his wit can keep up with great comedians like Patrice O' Neal, D.L. Hugley & Tammy Pescatelli (Sp?).

[Hunter Rider]

This is pissing me off, either people don't know or are to stuburn to recognize it when ever mentioned, but Rey & Eddie wrote this angle themselves not the creative department. It's mentione in many interviews & even people who are suppossed to be insider jounalist don't pay attention to it.



they came up with the idea of the feud but they havent written the angle and no one has mentioned them coming up with the custody part of the angle

anyway here are the results of the angle


While the Rey Mysterio/Eddie Guerrero custody saga might come off as a run-of-the-mill soap opera storyline to the many WWE viewers, to one person, the pain and anguish expressed by the performers is all too real.

According to PWTorch.com, young Dominick is currently suffering from emotional distress related to the angle. While he's obviously heavily briefed as to its fiction, sources indicate that between witnessing his father cry, Eddie Guerrero portray a heartless villain and thousands of live fans sell the angle as legitimate, it would be impossible for someone in Dominick's position not to experience some sort of trauma.

The custody battle, which is the latest development in an ongoing feud between Guerrero and Mysterio, will lead to another match between the two at Summerslam. The backstage reaction to the on-air performances has been overwhelmingly positive, a reaction that goes hand-in-hand with the fact that the segments continue to draw very well for WWE SmackDown.

[Jason Blood]

wait...

so Summerslam and Sacrifice are on the same night?

I'd rather watch Sacrifice...


EDIT

whoops, I thought that Summerslam was this sunday...


I don't recall why exactly

[3dman27]

She's head of creative and has pioneered the soapy crap currently infesting WWE television such as the Diva search,the custody battle,the chick with the huge wart,Eugene, and battle of the bands to name a few
maybe she and her father should remember people tune int WRESTLING SHOWS to see WRESTLING MATCHES not the young and the restless

[The Ghoul]

I decided as soon as I heard Eddie go "Rey is not your father" I was ordering Sacrifice. This is the fist TNA PPV I ordered that wasn't their old PPV show. my only problem is the way they are saying that Waltman & Jerry Lynn haven't fought in 15 years, but didn't they have a match in WWF/E after The X-Factor bombed?

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ

While this fact should never have come into dispute, to clarify an earlier report, the custody papers will indeed be the "prize" in the Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio Ladder Match at Summerslam.

Says WWE.com, "Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio will face each other in a Ladder Match at SummerSlam. The first Superstars to climb the ladder and grab the custody papers hanging from the arena ceiling will be declared the winner and receive sole custody of Dominick.

[Jason Blood]

I just heard that Frankie Kazarian might be released

I hope to god it's just rumors, because it just wouldn't make any sense at all

[The Ghoul]

I just heard that Frankie Kazarian might be released

I hope to god it's just rumors, because it just wouldn't make any sense at all

I heard he asked to be released. So really, all the power to him if he goes. Plus, if he does, he can go back to TNA as the resident "**** WWE" guy. Also if so, his no compete claus would be up by the time TNA goes to spike which would be amazing for publicity.

[John Constantine]

Not really surprised by Kazarian asking for a release. It seems like a lot of TNA wrestlers don't make it in the WWE. Another example of this was Jimmy Yang/Akio. Even Paul London is basically doing nothing much on Smackdown. I don't fault Kazarian for giving the WWE a try though.

At least this means that the X-division will be getting yet another boost :)

[hotrain33]

I hope this is the last time eddie and rey wrestle for the time being . We have seen this fued go from to guys once friends now enemies to a goofy story line about a custody battle.

[TheVileOne]

Not really surprised by Kazarian asking for a release. It seems like a lot of TNA wrestlers don't make it in the WWE. Another example of this was Jimmy Yang/Akio. Even Paul London is basically doing nothing much on Smackdown. I don't fault Kazarian for giving the WWE a try though.

At least this means that the X-division will be getting yet another boost :)

Is this really true? Are those rumors legit? What's Kazarian's beef with WWE? Why'd he leave TNA and go through everything to get into WWE in the first place? I don't understand. Maybe he now sees a lack of upward mobility in WWE. And how he can't wrestle to his full potential. And how all WWE PPV's suck nowadays and TNA is making all the right booking decisions and producing great PPV's at the moment. I dunno. TNA letting Kazarian leave was a huge mistake in the first place.

I don't understand Kazarian's problems though. He's undefeated and just beat recent former CW champion Paul London on Velocity. Or maybe that he's only on Velocity is what's pissing Kazarian off :) .

If the rumors are true and he goes back to TNA, he needs to reform his team with Matt Bentley so they can finally win the tag team titles.

[John Constantine]

Here is full details on Kazarian asking for his release:

"Sunday might have featured a TNA PPV, but it was a WWE news item that received all the attention. Wrestling fans all over the world reacted to the news of Frankie Kazarian asking for his release from World Wrestling Entertainment. According to multiple sources, his request was granted.

The potential for trouble between Kazarian and WWE first reared its head a month ago when Kazarian initially requested a release. Upset over the fact that he - after having been with the company for several months - wasn't used on television, Kazarian wanted to part ways with WWE. In response, WWE immediately began using Kazarian on Velocity, where the former TNA wrestler went over a number of fellow WWE cruiserweights.

However, he remained dissatisfied with his role as a WWE superstar. Kazarian was specifically upset with WWE management's recent decision to tone down high-flying manuevers. The straw that broke the camel's back was a request from WWE officials that Kazarian change his look and cut his long hair.

Source: PWInsider.com"

[Sabretooth]

WWE is a bunch of retards.They tell him to cut his hair,when Undertaker,Matt Hardy,Edge, and just about every superstar has long hair?

I can't blame Kazarian.Though,I wonder where he's going to go now,unless he goes crawling back to TNA.

[3dman27]

victoria fans your girl goes one on one with super stacy tonight

[Jason Blood]

Holy crap, even though I wish he was still with the WWE, that's BS

[U.S War Machine]

Matt Hardy is gonna fight Edge and probly still get revenge on Kane.

[punishermax]

If the rumors are true and he goes back to TNA, he needs to reform his team with Matt Bentley so they can finally win the tag team titles.

Credit: Wrestling Observer

Matt Bentley (Michaels Shane) is gone from TNA due to his deal expiring and him not accepting the new deal that was offered to him.

It's worth noting that Frankie Kazraian was his old tag team partner in TNA and he was just let go by WWE.

Kenzo Suzuki and Shannon Moore were backstage at the TNA PPV last night. Moore is scheduled to sign after his co compete clause expires.


As much as I woud like to see Bentley/Shane reteam with Kazarian, looks like it ain't gonna happen, at least for now.

[TheVileOne]

Credit: Wrestling Observer

Matt Bentley (Michaels Shane) is gone from TNA due to his deal expiring and him not accepting the new deal that was offered to him.

It's worth noting that Frankie Kazraian was his old tag team partner in TNA and he was just let go by WWE.

Kenzo Suzuki and Shannon Moore were backstage at the TNA PPV last night. Moore is scheduled to sign after his co compete clause expires.


As much as I woud like to see Bentley/Shane reteam with Kazarian, looks like it ain't gonna happen, at least for now.

That is horrible news for TNA if its true. TNA do whatever it is in your power to keep Bentley. You cannot afford another loss like this after Frankie and Kid Kash.

Frankie, go back to TNA where you belong. You wanted to work for a company whose UN-CREATIVE team thought you were there to work a dark match. They didn't even know you worked for the company!

[punishermax]

victoria fans your girl goes one on one with super stacy tonight
Also from WZ

We have been told that the match scheduled between Stacy Keibler ands Victoria for RAW tonight has been cancelled.

UPDATE: WWE.com has also removed the match from their official RAW preview


DAMN...I was really looking forward to that.......wait that was something else.

[punishermax]

That is horrible news for TNA if its true. TNA do whatever it is in your power to keep Bentley. You cannot afford another loss like this after Frankie and Kid Kash.

Frankie, go back to TNA where you belong. You wanted to work for a company whose UN-CREATIVE team thought you were there to work a dark match. They didn't even know you worked for the company!

I agree with everything you said, except the Kid Kash part. Is he talented yes, but there have been a lot of reports where he was whiny and very disruptive backstage, so my guess is TNA said good riddance to Kash as they probably figured he was more trouble than he was worth.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah I heard that about Kash, but he was still a great performer and a big loss. He was in TNA since the beginning.

The Kash's behavior, I don't see him going very far in WWE. Kash is a bit of an ******* bragging about how WWE is signing a lot of indy talent. The only reason that WWE is signing a lot of indy talent is to keep them OUT of TNA.

[punishermax]

Yeah I heard that about Kash, but he was still a great performer and a big loss. He was in TNA since the beginning.

The Kash's behavior, I don't see him going very far in WWE. Kash is a bit of an ******* bragging about how WWE is signing a lot of indy talent. The only reason that WWE is signing a lot of indy talent is to keep them OUT of TNA.

Even if Kash wasn't arrogant, I still don't think he would have made it very far in the WWE, mainl because he doesn't fit the WWE mold. I don't think he is gonna make it farther than a CW or tag team bit player. And with the WWE signing indy wrestlers I'm just thankful Somoa Joe went to TNA instead, mainly because WWE wouldn't have used him right, and I think Joe might suffer a little from the "Mike Awesome syndrome" being that against smaller guys he looks amazing but against bigger guys he may not look like anything special, so the X Division I think is the perfect fit. I'm not saying Joe can't wrestle big guys I just think he is better against smaller guys, besides when Joe whips a small guy down in an STO, it just looks friggin brutal. :up:

[Sabretooth]

Is it me,or was this Diva search bull****? Seriously,the talented and hot girls were all eliminated.I don't know how Leyla stayed there as long as she did.

And I cannot stand this Avril Lavigne wannabe.I want to kill her everytime she points at the camera :mad:

[The Techno Bat]

I think it is awesome that ASHLEY won, she was the best one out of all of them.

[WickerPerson]

I missed the first hour. What happened?

[White_Howling]

ohhh Val shaved his head? i just noticed.. he really is trying everything now isn't he

[PyroChamber]

I think it is awesome that ASHLEY won, she was the best one out of all of them.Did anyone besides me know, or at least have a feeling, that it was gonna be between Leyla and Ashley from the start? And this years Diva Search seemed shorter than last year's, I guess they listened to fans who didn't think it was necessary and decided to shorten it.

Ashley says she's been training to wrestle, but doesn't she realize that chances are she's just gonna be on the sideline doing pretty much nothing, look at Christy Hemme.

And man did they really show how they felt about Shawn Michaels, they barely gave him a chance to speak.

Why was the Victoria vs. Stacy match cancelled? I was was kinda looking forward to that.

[White_Howling]

okk.. now thats just messed up..

"the battle over dominick"

whoa what da hell... poor kid.. and family

[White_Howling]

great more hogan..

and shawn messed up.... doing the sharp shooter he tripped..

[3dman27]

Also from WZ

We have been told that the match scheduled between Stacy Keibler ands Victoria for RAW tonight has been cancelled.

UPDATE: WWE.com has also removed the match from their official RAW preview


DAMN...I was really looking forward to that.......wait that was something else.
so was i maybe one of the ladies could'nt get into canada for passport reasons EDIT
i just checked www.lordsofpain.netthe match was rescheduled for heat as thats where the stacy-victoria angle started

[Sabretooth]

great more hogan..

and shawn messed up.... doing the sharp shooter he tripped..
That wasn't Shawn's fault.I could tell clearly that Hogan wasn't helping Shawn get Hogan's legs crossed.He basically deadweighted Shawn.

[kane9321]

when it came down to the final 3 "divas" It was a tuff call because i wanted ashley or the girl that was on the end to win.The chick in the middle wasnt that attractive to me..I'm just glad its over

[Donnie Darko]

I liked last night's show. It was pretty good, overall.

The Good:
-The Shawn Michaels promo at the beginning. Wow, that guy is more entertaining just talking in the ring than most of the guys in WWE are wrestling.
-The Canadian fans. Canadian fans never disappoint.
-No Snitsky
-No Masters
-Val Venis. I don't care what anyone says, this guy is a good worker and I'm happy he's still in the WWE. I would love to see him get another push, maybe for the IC title.
-HBK putting Hogan in the sharpshooter (even though he didn't really do it right)
-The diva contestants, Super Stacy, and Lita... all lookin hot
-Anything involving Jericho and/or Carlito. I love those guys.

The Bad-
-The Big Show going over The Heartthrobs so easily. I mean, I am not a fan of theirs, but having one man go over one of the top tag teams in the company (which is VERY sad) isn't good for the already dead tag team division.
-No Benjamin
-Rob Conway going over The Hurricane. This kinda touches on the same thing as the Heart throbs match, but I also just hate to see The Hurricane getting beat. At least Conway's getting a push, but I don't like the gimmick. It's been done so many times.
-Hogan vs. Angle. The could've potentially been a "dream match" or whatever, but Angle had to slow down and fumble around the ring for Hogan. That "big boot" was the worst thing I've ever seen.

[John Constantine]

okk.. now thats just messed up..

"the battle over dominick"

whoa what da hell... poor kid.. and family

It could've been worse. It could've been a "Dominic on a pole" match :eek:

[Sabretooth]

It could've been worse. It could've been a "Dominic on a pole" match :eek:
Or instead of a ladder match for the custody papers,a ladder match for Dominic's pants :(




Was I the only one that squealed like a school girl when Bret's music came on last night?I actually thought he was going to show up :(

[John Constantine]

No, a ladder match in which Dominic is hanging in the middle of the air and the winner has to snatch up Dominic.


Because, yeah, WCW actually did something like that before with Buff Bagwell's mom......

[Sabretooth]

Oh. :o

[John Constantine]

You know, Shawn Michaels was ****ing kickass yesterday. That's how a heel should be done. Someone that the fans absolutely hate and want to see get his ass kicked. And from the looks of it, probably will. I hope after Cena finishes feuding with Angle, him and Shawn could start up a feud because that would definitely be money :up:

[Sabretooth]

Well,Montreal is the only crowd I've seen so far that seriously hates Michaels.Everybody else pretty much still treats him like a face.But,if they continue having him do promos ike last night,yeah,they'll probably start hating him :up:

[John Constantine]

Yeah. Just imagine if Michaels started ripping into the fans in the States. They would hate him.

Hell, look at Jericho. He only had to reference that he was from Western Canada (not Eastern) and he got heel heat.

Seriously, a great way to get heel heat is to rip into the fans, not go into long, boring diatribes about how great of a wrestler you are ;)

[Sabretooth]

The problem with Michaels though is that he's still keeping his mature attitude.I mean,last night he was a little more cocky,but I think that was just because he was in Canada. In United States,he still comes off as a face that tells it like it is.I just hope he starts acting like the cocky bastard he used to be.But I don't see it happening.:(

[John Constantine]

You never know. The supreme amount of heat he got last night could've been a sign that maybe he could go back to being a cocky heel.

The other times he was in Canada, he just tended to ignore the boo's or the WWE would not even book him on the show. Last night was probably the first time that I recall him actually acknowledging the boos fully.

[Jason Blood]

I could have sworn that I heard HBK say something to Hogan

but seriously, after last night, I wish Hogan would just quit already

HBK's gonna win at Summerslam

[Hunter Rider]

I could have sworn that I heard HBK say something to Hogan

but seriously, after last night, I wish Hogan would just quit already

HBK's gonna win at Summerslam

Yes Hogan shouldve retired years ago,im tired of hearing how "Hogan made wrestling"
Yes Hulk you did so how about you get your geriatric old ass out the ****ing way and let someone else have the ball now you selfish egomanical basteed:o

[Shifty]

Yes Hogan shouldve retired years ago,im tired of hearing how "Hogan made wrestling"
Yes Hulk you did so how about you get your geriatric old ass out the ****ing way and let someone else have the ball now you selfish egomanical basteed:o

Well with a crowd reaction like that he ain't going anywhere sadly. I never watched wrestling when Hogan was champ but how could anyone cheer him now when he's clearly out of Angle and HBK's league? Even if HBK screws Hogan and doesn't lay down, he'll be back 'cause he wouldn't want his last moment like that. Which sucks.

[LastSunrise1981]

You know, Shawn Michaels was ****ing kickass yesterday. That's how a heel should be done. Someone that the fans absolutely hate and want to see get his ass kicked. And from the looks of it, probably will. I hope after Cena finishes feuding with Angle, him and Shawn could start up a feud because that would definitely be money :up:

Shawn definitely was on fire last night. His promos have been very tense, realistic, and very how do I say? Very heat inducing and he's generating great heel heat, especially now that he went to Canada and just ripped into them like it was nothing.

I must say I knew Bret wasn't coming out. It was too obvious and that's the problem with the WWE, for they are too predictable and after Edge did that with Matt Hardy, there was no way it was going to become a reality and while it would've been really nice if Bret was there, I just don't see him coming back anytime soon.

But HBK was both funny and serious though. I have to say he had me rolling after he fooled the crowd with Bret and Hogan.

[Pink Ranger]

Just came back from Smackdown at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto. I never realized how boring the show is when they have to break periodically for commercials etc. It's completely different than the Raw show experience.

[Hunter Rider]

Well with a crowd reaction like that he ain't going anywhere sadly. I never watched wrestling when Hogan was champ but how could anyone cheer him now when he's clearly out of Angle and HBK's league? Even if HBK screws Hogan and doesn't lay down, he'll be back 'cause he wouldn't want his last moment like that. Which sucks.

yes it is sad that some ppl are still cheering an old man who is leeching off his name and who can barely move let alone wrestle forcing guys ten times his level to look foolish so he can still service his giant ego:( :down

[3dman27]

Just came back from Smackdown at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto. I never realized how boring the show is when they have to break periodically for commercials etc. It's completely different than the Raw show experience.
they DO have to break for commercials i always thoughtthey cut tghe cameras then went right back to action

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch

-- Several backstage sources, both on Michaels' and Hogan's side, have said that there is some real tension between them, and that the two just don't like each other. A lot of people are worried about Hogan and Michaels making shoot comments on each other, which some backstage felt Michaels has already done, especially during his promo on RAW.

There has been a lot of paranoia backstage over one particular comment that Michaels made during raw, where he said "You're just one move away from your star being snuffed out, just ask Bret Hart." Some feel that this was a message to Hogan, saying that if he tries to play hardball on the finish of their match, Michaels could swerve it.

The word "screw job" has been thrown around regarding the confusion over the finish of the match. Although any type of real life screw job on Hulk Hogan is extremely unlikely, it may be used as a storyline to further push the angle between the two. Nonetheless, with all of the tension between the two, it'll be interesting to see what happens next.


Credit: PWTorch.com Newsletter

This Sunday will be Chris Jericho's last match in WWE for quite a while, and possibly forever. That is Jericho's last match before he takes a long leave of absence. There is a chance that he will be on RAW the following night, possibly to explain his leave in-character.

This basically confirms that Jericho will not be winning the title off of John Cena at SummerSlam, unless he lost it the next night on RAW which is possible.

It's likely that Jericho will return some time in the future, but there is the possibility that he will not. There are no details on when (or, if) he plans on returning as of right now.

(Source: PWTorch Newsletter)

Another Ric Flair DVD could potentially be in the works. WWE are currently in negotiations with Kevin Von Erich over the purchase of the WCCW wrestling library. The library contains footage of several classic Flair matches. With the exception of Flair, none of WWE's current top name wrestlers have even wrestled there.

Despite all the buzz surrounding Matt Hardy's recent return to the company, WWE officials still hold him in the same regard as they did last year. Hardy is still seen as a mid-carder who could potentially move up the ranks given time. One source backstage was quoted saying, "He may move up to the next level, but not if he cuts too many promos like that first one."

[LastSunrise1981]

Source: PWTorch

-- Several backstage sources, both on Michaels' and Hogan's side, have said that there is some real tension between them, and that the two just don't like each other. A lot of people are worried about Hogan and Michaels making shoot comments on each other, which some backstage felt Michaels has already done, especially during his promo on RAW.

There has been a lot of paranoia backstage over one particular comment that Michaels made during raw, where he said "You're just one move away from your star being snuffed out, just ask Bret Hart." Some feel that this was a message to Hogan, saying that if he tries to play hardball on the finish of their match, Michaels could swerve it.

The word "screw job" has been thrown around regarding the confusion over the finish of the match. Although any type of real life screw job on Hulk Hogan is extremely unlikely, it may be used as a storyline to further push the angle between the two. Nonetheless, with all of the tension between the two, it'll be interesting to see what happens next.


Credit: PWTorch.com Newsletter

This Sunday will be Chris Jericho's last match in WWE for quite a while, and possibly forever. That is Jericho's last match before he takes a long leave of absence. There is a chance that he will be on RAW the following night, possibly to explain his leave in-character.

This basically confirms that Jericho will not be winning the title off of John Cena at SummerSlam, unless he lost it the next night on RAW which is possible.

It's likely that Jericho will return some time in the future, but there is the possibility that he will not. There are no details on when (or, if) he plans on returning as of right now.

(Source: PWTorch Newsletter)

Another Ric Flair DVD could potentially be in the works. WWE are currently in negotiations with Kevin Von Erich over the purchase of the WCCW wrestling library. The library contains footage of several classic Flair matches. With the exception of Flair, none of WWE's current top name wrestlers have even wrestled there.

Despite all the buzz surrounding Matt Hardy's recent return to the company, WWE officials still hold him in the same regard as they did last year. Hardy is still seen as a mid-carder who could potentially move up the ranks given time. One source backstage was quoted saying, "He may move up to the next level, but not if he cuts too many promos like that first one."

Jericho signed an extenstion a while back, so he'll definitely be back in he future. He needed this break as his character is becoming stale, and I truly miss those huge pops he used to get.

He needs to break away and just recharge. Although it's not his fault that the character is stale, that solely falls on the shoulders of Vince and the writers.

When he comes back I hope he's the smartass we know and love. :up:

[Bad Superman]

Another Ric Flair DVD could potentially be in the works. WWE are currently in negotiations with Kevin Von Erich over the purchase of the WCCW wrestling library. The library contains footage of several classic Flair matches. With the exception of Flair, none of WWE's current top name wrestlers have even wrestled there.

Ahhhh yes. . . those are great news. If Von Eric is smart, he would sell. WWE has a huge gold mine with the old NWA WCW ECW AWA library. I hope they keep dishing out DVD's. I read somewhere there were plans for a Four Horsemen DVD? or did I imagine that?? :eek:


Jericho signed an extenstion a while back, so he'll definitely be back in he future. He needed this break as his character is becoming stale, and I truly miss those huge pops he used to get.

He needs to break away and just recharge. Although it's not his fault that the character is stale, that solely falls on the shoulders of Vince and the writers.

When he comes back I hope he's the smartass we know and love. :up:

I agree. Jericho has been misused. If Vince was interested enough he could've built up Jericho as a great Champion. But since he apparently is no longer running the show **cough**Stephanie and Triple H** I guess we all know there's only one guy who's got the spotlight from the creative team. I mean, you can clearly see how little effort they're putting building up other talented wrestlers. No wonder WWE is on a fast dive to hell.

[Pink Ranger]

they DO have to break for commercials i always thoughtthey cut tghe cameras then went right back to action

Commercials are no excuse for letting the lights go dark and have people sit there for 5 minutes while the backstage stuff gets done. At least they could shoot T-shirts into the audience or something in breaks. I remember a Raw broadcast I went back to in 2000; I had terrible seats but the show seemed to move along quicker.

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ- Jeff Hardy told "Between The Ropes" that he is presently scheduled to appear as both himself and Willow The Whisp in TNA as part of an alter-ego gimmick. Hardy will be wrestling Bobby Rude at TNA's "Unbreakable" PPV.

- Regarding Mick Foley's return to Ring Of Honor this Saturday, ROHWrestling.com offered, "Mick Foley told ROH officials that he was recently home watching a ROH DVD when he saw something that really upset him. Foley says he will take care of this matter and make sure that it doesn't happen in ROH again. Foley is set to return to ROH this Saturday in Morristown."

[Hunter Rider]

The immortal Ego strikes again:rolleyes:

The following is a brief recap of Hulk Hogan's interview with "The Interactive Interview."

- Hulk Hogan explained that he's able to get over without doing anything high-risk because of his rapport with the fans and ability to work intelligently. If he were able to jump off a cage or do a dropkick, he would make sure the spot counted and made sense.

- The Hulkster is a bit nervous about wrestling Shawn Michaels at Summerslam, aware of the possibility that it could be his last match. "You're only as good as your last match so if I go out there and fall on my face with Shawn Michaels without ever getting to redeem myself, it's a sad end to a 25 year career," Hogan said.

- Hogan believes his reality show is so successful because it gives America the chance to watch a normal family with realistic problems.

- While The Rock and Austin had good runs with consistent opponents, Hogan believes that his true gift was his staying power and his ability to successfully adapt to many different opponents.

- Unable to fully comment on the Russo incident, Hogan denied claims that it was a fully planned work.

- Hogan put over Stephanie McMahon's delivery of good material for the current storyline with HBK. He also believes that despite HBK's finding God, Shawn Michaels' promo from RAW indicates that he still possesses demons inside.

- In reponse to Randy Savage's challenge, Hulk Hogan reminded the interviewers and listeners of the heavily-reported incident in TNA: "[He] told everybody for 3 years that he was going to kick my butt. I ran into him in Orlando, walked right up to him, offered to shake his hand - he wouldn't shake my hand, didn't want to go outside. He just sat in his chair and shook for 30 minutes scared to death."

[The Batman]

What the hell?

Hogan catn wrestle, period. I didnt know adapting to your opponents was just giving them punches, a boot to the fact, and a leg drop.

He plays to the fans to cover up his lack of goof wrestling ability, IMO.

[goka12]

rey is going 2 get hes "son" back 619 engine engnie #9 on the new york transit line if my train go"s of the track pick it up pick pick it up pick it up smack

[TheVileOne]

I watched some of Smackdown tonight. Orlando Jordan is so unwatchable its not even funny. Its obscene he's still working for the company and has held the US title so long.

[Sabretooth]

I can't stand this Candice Michelle.She was a special announcer for a match tonight.I could barely hear her.She's not even hot.Why is she still there?

And yeah,I don't like Jordan either.He needs a haircut :o

[Twitch]

I can't stand this Candice Michelle.She was a special announcer for a match tonight.I could barely hear her.She's not even hot.Why is she still there?

And yeah,I don't like Jordan either.He needs a haircut :o

What's the Main Event?

[Sabretooth]

What's the Main Event?
Orton vs. Benoit.I didn't really pay attention to it.Though Undertaker came out after Orton won and chokeslammed him.

[TheVileOne]

Bah to WWE.

Styles vs. Daniels vs. Joe for the X Division title at Unbreakable. A match that has NEVER happened before in the history of professional wrestling. It will be 1,000 times better than HBK/Hogan.

[3dman27]

rey is going 2 get hes "son" back 619 engine engnie #9 on the new york transit line if my train go"s of the track pick it up pick pick it up pick it up smack
what?

[Hunter Rider]

I watched some of Smackdown tonight. Orlando Jordan is so unwatchable its not even funny. Its obscene he's still working for the company and has held the US title so long.

agreed he sucks,i can't believe they had him go over against Benoit at GAB:down

[Hunter Rider]

Bah to WWE.

Styles vs. Daniels vs. Joe for the X Division title at Unbreakable. A match that has NEVER happened before in the history of professional wrestling. It will be 1,000 times better than HBK/Hogan.
Of course,given that Hogan can barely walk let alone wrestle

[Hunter Rider]

You know, Shawn Michaels was ****ing kickass yesterday. That's how a heel should be done. Someone that the fans absolutely hate and want to see get his ass kicked. And from the looks of it, probably will. I hope after Cena finishes feuding with Angle, him and Shawn could start up a feud because that would definitely be money :up:

Just seen the promo:D HBK OWNS Montreal:o
I think it would be stupid after the heat and momentum he's built up to have him lose to Hogan,I still think it's a mistake him being a heel as a feud with Orton couldv'e lifted SD but damn if he isnt the best heel in WWE right now,2 things though

1)I don't see why wrestling Cena would be good,Cena is crap and needs de-pushing,he doesn't deserve HBK's heat ,that should be used for RVD also i don't like this idea that Angle is just a stepping stone for Cena

2)what's gonna happen when HHH returns ? you can't have 2 heels like him and HBK on one show IMO

[punishermax]

Just seen the promo:D HBK OWNS Montreal:o
I think it would be stupid after the heat and momentum he's built up to have him lose to Hogan,I still think it's a mistake him being a heel as a feud with Orton couldv'e lifted SD but damn if he isnt the best heel in WWE right now,2 things though

1)I don't see why wrestling Cena would be good,Cena is crap and needs de-pushing,he doesn't deserve HBK's heat ,that should be used for RVD also i don't like this idea that Angle is just a stepping stone for Cena

2)what's gonna happen when HHH returns ? you can't have 2 heels like him and HBK on one show IMO

Its rumored that HHH is going to come back as a face. If you saw the dvd extra for Vengeance with him and Batista and the HHH acted he could come back as a face.

[Hunter Rider]

Its rumored that HHH is going to come back as a face. If you saw the dvd extra for Vengeance with him and Batista and the HHH acted he could come back as a face.

Yeah i heard about that and some wrote it off as a sort of "behind the scenes" outve Kayfabe thing but really HHH isnt very good as a face anyway

[Lobo]

HHH is much better as heel same with Kane I hate him as a face :mad:

[Sabretooth]

There's no way they'll turn their biggest heel into a face.


Though,that WOULD finally make Angle the top heel :)

[Hunter Rider]

There's no way they'll turn their biggest heel into a face.


Though,that WOULD finally make Angle the top heel :)

I think HBK is gonna be the #1 heel,he is bang on form right now......pity there's no one worth putting over:o :(

[punishermax]

I could see HHH as a face, but much rather as a heel.

[Sabretooth]

I think HBK is gonna be the #1 heel,he is bang on form right now......pity there's no one worth putting over:o :(
I don't care what anyone says,an HBK/Cena feud could be pretty good.I didn't see it at first,but having Cena wrestle one of the greats,that's only going to help him shine in the ring.And with HBK's new ''tell it like it is'' attitude,he could take cheap shots at Cena,which is always fun :) :up:

[Hunter Rider]

I don't care what anyone says,an HBK/Cena feud could be pretty good.I didn't see it at first,but having Cena wrestle one of the greats,that's only going to help him shine in the ring.And with HBK's new ''tell it like it is'' attitude,he could take cheap shots at Cena,which is always fun :) :up:

I just don't see it as Cena is total crap,he can't wrestle at all so i see no reason why HBK should waste his time putting over a guy who is nowhere near good enough to carry the company

I don't get it,how come you guys are now accepting Cena ?:( he's the worst champ since Sid

[Jason Blood]

where has Kane been? (in real life, not the "arrested" storyline")(is this for an injury, or just time off)

I think the WWE is trying to make Cena into the next Hogan...

[3dman27]

where has Kane been? (in real life, not the "arrested" storyline")(is this for an injury, or just time off)
..
wouldn't it be ironic if the reason kanes absence in the arrested storyline is because he's on JURY DUTY in real life?

[White_Howling]

I could see HHH as a face, but much rather as a heel.


i don't remember him being a face.. it never really worked

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=126483358

According to the PWTorch Newsletter, Shawn Michaels has been anything but a pushover so far in dealing with Hulk Hogan behind the scenes. Whenever Hogan says no to an idea, Michaels keeps it even by rejecting one of Hogan's ideas. Every time Hogan gives him a "That's not right for me, brother", Michaels shoots back to his ideas with a "no" of his own.

Despite the ongoing negotiations, they still have not come to an agreement regarding the end of the match for SummerSlam. It is unknown at this point whether they really will reach something that pleases them both.

Hogan and Michaels are said to not like, nor trust each other, which will certainly make for an interesting couple of days as negotiations continue.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Thought I'd post this in here for all of my fellow "Hulkamaniacs". I originally posted this in the fan art forum under the iPod thread....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/OneDisturbedSOB/Hogan-iPod.jpg