Wrestling

[jackcool]

Hmm, I'll give Ego H a little bit of credit. He did what was right for the business recently, but I'm talking about when he had the championship belt handed to him. He used his politics to hold down wrestlers who were ready and outshined in everyway possible.

Jericho
RVD(RVD was supposed to beat HHH for the title, but instead he went to Stephanie and creative, and it was quoted by Kevin Kelly too. Kevin Kelly said Ego H told creative "RVD can't win the title, you can't do that".)
Kane
Steiner
Booker T
Jeff Hardy

He could've put over those wrestlers as well, but chose not to in fear of losing his spot in the title position. Granted, he's not as bad as Hogan was in WCW or as bad as HBK was in his prime, but Ego H has done some pretty underhanded stuff and has buried others in the process.

Yeah, he got pinned by Shelton Benjamin once, then lost via a count-out, and then a dq if I'm not mistaken. But let Ego H win the title and see if he'll do the right thing for Shelton then.

As far as Batista is concerned. He knew he had to job to Batista, or else people would've called him on his BS and turned the WWE off completely.

I have to agree about RVD. WWE really dropped the ball on a RVD title reign back in 2001 ( :confused: ). He was at his most popular at that point, the fans totally loved him and he was just named PWI's wrestler of the year. It would've been a perfect point for him to win the championship. Ever since then, it seems that Van Dam has just been going through the motions since he realizes that he can never break the proverbial "glass ceiling".

[Donnie Darko]

I really think that when he comes back, WWE will wise up some. I mean, they saw the pops he has been getting at One Night Stand and his one appearance on Raw, and he didn't even wrestle those nights. They saw him on the mic and they know we want him, so I would seriously think they would see the potential $$$ they could get out of him right now.

[Hunter Rider]

Hmm, I'll give Ego H a little bit of credit. He did what was right for the business recently, but I'm talking about when he had the championship belt handed to him. He used his politics to hold down wrestlers who were ready and outshined in everyway possible.

Jericho
RVD(RVD was supposed to beat HHH for the title, but instead he went to Stephanie and creative, and it was quoted by Kevin Kelly too. Kevin Kelly said Ego H told creative "RVD can't win the title, you can't do that".)
Kane
Steiner
Booker T
Jeff Hardy

He could've put over those wrestlers as well, but chose not to in fear of losing his spot in the title position. Granted, he's not as bad as Hogan was in WCW or as bad as HBK was in his prime, but Ego H has done some pretty underhanded stuff and has buried others in the process.

i just don't see that,Y2J and him feuded and he made Y2J look good but he couldn't lay down at that poiint as he was the main man,the others arent main event league so losing to them would not have benefitted the company.
one exception being RVD but that was the fault of management for saddling him with a stupid promo style so as to render him useless as champ.
It's no secret that every top star in WWE history has held someone back and played politics but Hogan is in a completely different league in selfishness to all the others




Yeah, he got pinned by Shelton Benjamin once, then lost via a count-out, and then a dq if I'm not mistaken. But let Ego H win the title and see if he'll do the right thing for Shelton then.

As far as Batista is concerned. He knew he had to job to Batista, or else people would've called him on his BS and turned the WWE off completely.


sadly the Shelton thing won't be an issue,as much as i think he is the most exciting young talent in wwe he has very little charisma and sparce mic skills
As for Batista ,well he went above and beyond doing 3 in a row for him especialy considering wwe don't really rate Batista amd he can't draw a dime without HHH

[Hunter Rider]

I have to agree about RVD. WWE really dropped the ball on a RVD title reign back in 2001 ( :confused: ). He was at his most popular at that point, the fans totally loved him and he was just named PWI's wrestler of the year. It would've been a perfect point for him to win the championship. Ever since then, it seems that Van Dam has just been going through the motions since he realizes that he can never break the proverbial "glass ceiling".

agreed but Austin was the one that refused to job to RVD when RVD was red hot coming in from the invasion angle

[Hunter Rider]

Oh right....:(

A Rock-HBK match would also be great, but something in me also wants to see another Stone Cold-HBK match as well because the original plan back in 1998 was for Shawn to return shortly after that Wrestlemania match he had with Stone Cold and have an extended feud. But that never happened......

back in 98 that feud wouldv'e been awesome but now i don't think so,Austin has suffered to many injuries and it would be more hype than anything
I may not be Austin's biggest fan but i respect the way he went out losing to The Rock when he realised he couldn't perform at the top level anymore,i don't want to see him sour that for a one off match that wont deliver on the hype,the beauty of HBK/Rock is it can deliver on the hype

[jackcool]

agreed but Austin was the one that refused to job to RVD when RVD was red hot coming in from the invasion angle

Yeah, that kinda ruined RVD as well. I hated the way Austin had to be the main heel in the Alliance :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, that kinda ruined RVD as well. I hated the way Austin had to be the main heel in the Alliance :mad:

yeah that blew,it was due to them not getting any of wcw's major stars,there were some funny skits with him and angle in that period thoughhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[jackcool]

They still could've had a couple - Booker T, DDP, Kanyon. They could've even developed Sean O'Haire as a legitimate badass at that point. But the Alliance could've definitely benefited with a Ric Flair or a Scott Steiner, I totally agree.

I still didn't like Austin in the Alliance though. After that, it was all about Austin and not about WCW/ECW anymore.....

[Lobo]

I miss Kanyon :(

[Hunter Rider]

They still could've had a couple - Booker T, DDP, Kanyon. They could've even developed Sean O'Haire as a legitimate badass at that point. But the Alliance could've definitely benefited with a Ric Flair or a Scott Steiner, I totally agree.

I still didn't like Austin in the Alliance though. After that, it was all about Austin and not about WCW/ECW anymore.....

Oh I agree about it really just being an outlet for Austin,i just don't really think Booker couldv'e held that spot and DDP was injured with a herniated disc most of the time,thats why him and Taker never did a PPV one on one after building an awesome angle

[jackcool]

I thought Booker T could've been a part of the main spotlight of WCW. Big Show as well, maybe, because he was a pretty main part of WCW. It was too bad that Benoit got injured because he would've been good for the invasion angle as well. I'm just disappointed because the proposed WWF-WCWECW feud just degenerated so quickly. I think the sole highlight of the whole Invasion was that one Raw in Atlanta where ECW all of a sudden invaded. After that, everything went to hell.

[Hunter Rider]

I thought Booker T could've been a part of the main spotlight of WCW. Big Show as well, maybe, because he was a pretty main part of WCW. It was too bad that Benoit got injured because he would've been good for the invasion angle as well. I'm just disappointed because the proposed WWF-WCWECW feud just degenerated so quickly. I think the sole highlight of the whole Invasion was that one Raw in Atlanta where ECW all of a sudden invaded. After that, everything went to hell.

The angle tanked,it was stupid to go through with it when they didn't have the right personel

[jackcool]

True. Just imagine if they had Ric Flair, Scott Steiner, Sting (this guy was WCW), Goldberg, and maybe Nash and Hall. Add in Big Show (back as the Giant naturally) to the current mix of DDP, Kanyon, Booker T, and the other WCW guys and the Invasion angle would've gone much more smoothly.

Or it could've been due to the addition of Stephony. As soon as she was revealed as the "new" ECW owner, that's when it went to ****.

[Hunter Rider]

True. Just imagine if they had Ric Flair, Scott Steiner, Sting (this guy was WCW), Goldberg, and maybe Nash and Hall. Add in Big Show (back as the Giant naturally) to the current mix of DDP, Kanyon, Booker T, and the other WCW guys and the Invasion angle would've gone much more smoothly.

Or it could've been due to the addition of Stephony. As soon as she was revealed as the "new" ECW owner, that's when it went to ****.

yeah hardcore steph:confused:
The list of wrestlers you describe wouldv'e made for a kickass feud,they couldve even used Hogan back then and did and Austin/Hogan feud as well as a Rock/Sting one

[jackcool]

I still groan at that one time on Raw when Steph got the entire Alliance to come out and sing "Wind beneath my wings" song. God! They finally got WWF, WCW, and ECW under one company, and this was the best they could've come up with? :mad: :mad: :(

[Hunter Rider]

I still groan at that one time on Raw when Steph got the entire Alliance to come out and sing "Wind beneath my wings" song. God! They finally got WWF, WCW, and ECW under one company, and this was the best they could've come up with? :mad: :mad: :(

agggghhhhhhhhh:( i'd forgotten about that,jesus that was horrible,Tomy Dreamer singing ballads WTF:(

[jackcool]

Exactly. I swear, it was the addition of Steph that ruined the Invasion :(

That's actually one thing I like with the WWE now. No more McMahons around. It was horrible a couple years back when we had Vince, Linda, Steph, and Shane take up like half the tv time for their little feuds with each other.

[Hunter Rider]

Exactly. I swear, it was the addition of Steph that ruined the Invasion :(

That's actually one thing I like with the WWE now. No more McMahons around. It was horrible a couple years back when we had Vince, Linda, Steph, and Shane take up like half the tv time for their little feuds with each other.

yeah,it was typical wwe,some of the storylines were good but they went on to long and to far with the Mcmahon family feuds until it became like melroes place:o
still Steph is doing more damage than ever backstage:(

How'd you feel about this HBK/Masters feud ?

[jackcool]

I don't really mind it if it's a temporary thing until Shawn find another opponent to wrestle. At the most, it'll at least give Masters a bit of a rub-off because he's going up against one of the WWE's best.

[Hunter Rider]

I don't really mind it if it's a temporary thing until Shawn find another opponent to wrestle. At the most, it'll at least give Masters a bit of a rub-off because he's going up against one of the WWE's best.

I agree,Masters has improved in all areas over the last 2 months and maybe HBK can elevate him as he's young and could garber some expirience from a PPV match with Shawn,i doubt he'll go over him but if HBK sells is power he can make a mark

[jackcool]

Yeah, I agree about Masters improving. He's still a bit slow in the ring, but at least he's no longer injuring other wrestlers during matches :D

It'll be interesting to see if Shawn breaks out of the Masterlock or not. The WWE seems intent on trying to make that move totally unbreakable only so they could pass Masters off as a huge powerhorse. Personally, I hope they don't try and put the Masterlock on Shawn next week......

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I agree about Masters improving. He's still a bit slow in the ring, but at least he's no longer injuring other wrestlers during matches :D

It'll be interesting to see if Shawn breaks out of the Masterlock or not. The WWE seems intent on trying to make that move totally unbreakable only so they could pass Masters off as a huge powerhorse. Personally, I hope they don't try and put the Masterlock on Shawn next week......

Isnt he already doing the masterlock challenge ?
I think they should wait for a powerhouse to break it,Shawn is no powerhouse so if he breaks it theyve wasted all that time pushing the move
I liked the quick exchange they did on RAW and Masters was decent on the mic even if HBK did own him lol
HBK has always sold powerhouses well so this is a smart piece of booking IMO

[jackcool]

Yeah, but I hope something happens, like maybe Shawn just superkicks Masters before he can apply the Masterlock and that's it. I totally agree that Shawn shouldn't break out of the hold and I really can't see Masters really going over Shawn in this occasion.

And yeah, a powerhouse like Big Show or Batista (if he weren't on SD) should be the only ones to break out of the move. But I would rather have no one break out of it for the next while. Just really sell it as a move no one can break out of. I would almost even have him go over Big Show in the Masterlock challenge, because really, I doubt maybe even the Big Show could break out of it realistically.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but I hope something happens, like maybe Shawn just superkicks Masters before he can apply the Masterlock and that's it. I totally agree that Shawn shouldn't break out of the hold and I really can't see Masters really going over Shawn in this occasion.

And yeah, a powerhouse like Big Show or Batista (if he weren't on SD) should be the only ones to break out of the move. But I would rather have no one break out of it for the next while. Just really sell it as a move no one can break out of. I would almost even have him go over Big Show in the Masterlock challenge, because really, I doubt maybe even the Big Show could break out of it realistically.

I think how they'll probably do it is before shawn is ready Masters will jump him,pummel him and then apply the Masterlock and toss HBK around like a rag doll
another option is just have him go clean over and put HBk out with the hold selling it and making Masters seem more of a threat

I agree they should keep it unbreakable for a while even if it is the warlords move:eek: :D I do think though Show could break it legit,im not really sure masters could get the leverage or grip show is so wide

[jackcool]

Yeah, that might actually work. Attack Shawn while his back is turned to the point where he's "knocked out". Then apply the Masterlock as rubbing salt in the wounds.

And the full-nelson is kind of an old-school move, but at least he's not doing a powerbomb or something to that effect ;)

[3dman27]

Exactly. I swear, it was the addition of Steph that ruined the Invasion :(

That's actually one thing I like with the WWE now. No more McMahons around. It was horrible a couple years back when we had Vince, Linda, Steph, and Shane take up like half the tv time for their little feuds with each other.
i must admit you're right about that
maybe its time a REAL hostile takeover of the wwe was made ,not just in a storyline

[3dman27]

does anyone remember a few years ago when ecw was on spike tv and they had a man portraying a network executivetrying to tone down ecw[tone down ecw yeah right]
well i read on www.lordsofpain.net that this week smackdown is introducing a simular character he'll probablt go around interferring in matches and following the "muhammad hassan" situation try to tell the wwe who it can and can't have on its show

[Hunter Rider]

does anyone remember a few years ago when ecw was on spike tv and they had a man portraying a network executivetrying to tone down ecw[tone down ecw yeah right]
well i read on www.lordsofpain.net (http://www.lordsofpain.net/) that this week smackdown is introducing a simular character he'll probablt go around interferring in matches and following the "muhammad hassan" situation try to tell the wwe who it can and can't have on its show

yeah i red about that,kinda funny given how completely non hardcore SD is:D

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, that might actually work. Attack Shawn while his back is turned to the point where he's "knocked out". Then apply the Masterlock as rubbing salt in the wounds.

And the full-nelson is kind of an old-school move, but at least he's not doing a powerbomb or something to that effect ;)

true,i just always think of those old davey boy/warlord matches when i see the full nelson:)

[Donnie Darko]

true,i just always think of those old davey boy/warlord matches when i see the full nelson:)

I actually think of Hercules Hernandez vs Billy Jack Hanes

[kane9321]

didnt Hercules Hernandez die last year?

[Donnie Darko]

I have no idea

[Hunter Rider]

Sable Comments On Lesnar's Status & Her Future

To read the full interview, visit www.wrestlemag.com/interviews/renamero.html: (http://www.wrestlemag.com/interviews/renamero.html:)

Moving to this year. You and Brock Lesnar made an appearance at a New Japan show at the start of the year. Obviously Brock's appearance there has caused quite a stir, and there's the lawsuit with WWE...was your appearance at the show purely because you were with Brock, or did (Antonio) Inoki have plans for you to work there down the line?

I was there only because I was with Brock at the time.

Was there ever any talk about you both returning to make appearances?

New Japan wanted Brock to return, but not with me though, unless they had plans that I did not know about.

When the New Japan appearance took place, was Brock looking to appear in the ring for the promotion? The official line was that you were there purely as friends of Inoki, but was there more to it?

We were there as "guests", but they wanted to use Brock down the line. New Japan had also wanted to do Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar prior to that but WWE didn't approve of the idea and didn't allow the match to happen.

While we're on the subject of Brock, WWE.com recently reported that he'd had talks with WWE with regards to returning to the company, only for them to report that talks had broken down. There's been a lot of talk that WWE are trying to put out another "worked shoot" to throw fans off guard. Can you enlighten us as to whether or not Brock Lesnar will be returning to WWE, and also what the status of the lawsuit is?

I really don't have the latest inside scoop for obvious reasons. Last time I knew something, he (Brock) looked like he was going back to WWE. I don't think he has explained to anyone why he isn't going, so I suppose there is a chance that it's a work.


I think we'll see Lesnar by Survivor series at the latest

[Lobo]

Agreed :up:

[3dman27]

yeah i red about that,kinda funny given how completely non hardcore SD is:D
i don't think hardcore has much to do with the network exec storyline as much as supposedly"unacceptible storyline as the hassan situation became

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope Brock comes back. WWE fired like 20 people so they can afford his salary now. Batista has somethin waiting for Brock when he get's here anyway. :up:

[jackcool]

does anyone remember a few years ago when ecw was on spike tv and they had a man portraying a network executivetrying to tone down ecw[tone down ecw yeah right]


Yeah, that was Jackyl/Cyrus/Don Callis. I loved that angle because it was ECW's way of saying "**** you" to Spike TV/TNN. Honestly, the WWE should've brought in Don Callis as the UPN exec. He fits the role of a slimy exec to perfection.

[Angelus103]

so the wwe going back to USA

but I preferred spike
they gave the wwe more freedom
like to run longer
and never got push off the air by golf or a dog show

[U.S War Machine]

Unforgivin is coming to my home town.

[3dman27]

so the wwe going back to USA

but I preferred spike
they gave the wwe more freedom
like to run longer
and never got push off the air by golf or a dog show
good point

[Jason Blood]

Benoit could really do something with that 25.5 seconds thing

the coffee thing was pure gold

[Donnie Darko]

I love Orton, so why did they make him have to cheat to beat Holly? Seriously, Orton is the future of the company. They need to give him clean victories, even if he is a heel.

[Jason Blood]

Holly probably threatened to eat the writers

besides, Orton's a heel

he's supposed to do that stuff

[jackcool]

Benoit could really do something with that 25.5 seconds thing

the coffee thing was pure gold

It certainly was :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I was at Summerslam and I missed 1/2 of that match cuz I spilled my water and was trying to clean it up. Damn you Benoit :down:

[Metamorpho1977]

Where did they find this Kennedy guy? I think he's gonna go far. Good first impression.

[U.S War Machine]

Who you think will win the tag team? of course Batista and Beniot

[Metamorpho1977]

I know when Smackdown comes to Atlanta on the 6th, they have a 6 man tag match with Batista,Rey Mysterio, and the Undertaker against JBL, Eddie Guerrero, and RKO.

[Colossal Spoons]

Who you think will win the tag team? of course Batista and Beniot

I shouldn't have read the results yesterday. I won't tell you though.

[U.S War Machine]

I'm watching smackdown right now

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, meant I wasn't gonna spoil it, it's over now anyway.

[U.S War Machine]

When Batista shakes the ropes he tries to act like the Ultimate Warrior and thats not kool.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think it's pretty awesome. Almost as awesome ad the machinegun thing in his entrance.

[brainchild81]

I hope Brock comes back. WWE fired like 20 people so they can afford his salary now. Batista has somethin waiting for Brock when he get's here anyway. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifI sure hope not. Brock is 1,000x better than Batista. Batista's matches suck, big time.I love Orton, so why did they make him have to cheat to beat Holly? Seriously, Orton is the future of the company. They need to give him clean victories, even if he is a heel.He's really not that great though. I've always seen him as a guy who can jump high, but not much else. He's more fun to watch than HHH or Batista, but that's not saying much. If he's the future, despair.

[jackcool]

Where did they find this Kennedy guy? I think he's gonna go far. Good first impression.

He has a good speaking voice, that's for sure. But it seemed like he hurt himself a bit with his finisher :confused:

[Metamorpho1977]

Something about his wrestling style reminded me of Dean Malenko. Not sure what it is though. Maybe it's his finisher. Remember Dean Malenko used to do something similar to that but instead of rolling the slam, he just tossed the guy up and brought him down gut first on his knee.

[Colossal Spoons]

I sure hope not. Brock is 1,000x better than Batista. Batista's matches suck, big time.

:gasp: That stung. Batista gets the crowd way more pumped than Brock ever did. I can't remember Brocks matches well enough to compare but I do know that Batista never botched any Shooting Star Presses lol.

[jackcool]

Let's see Batista even attempt a shooting star press first of all ;)

[brainchild81]

:gasp: That stung. Wasn't my intention. Batista gets the crowd way more pumped than Brock ever did. I can't remember Brocks matches well enough to compare but I do know that Batista never botched any Shooting Star Presses lol.And he probably never will. He'd have to have some kind of skill to even try it. Many wrestlers have botched SSpresses. It's a difficult move. It's not easy like a powerbomb or spinebuster:) Brock HAS done some perfect SSPs in OVW. He might have been out of practice @ that point.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I guess it's official, WWE just lost one of their biggest stars...

From Jericho's official website:

"I eventually had my first match on Oct 2, 1990 in Ponoka, Alberta….and on August 22, 2005 in Hampton, Virginia, I had my last match. For now. Yes it’s true. After months of speculation and rumors and numerous decoys and red herrings being thrown about, the official news from the boss man (me) is that I am leaving the WWE." Jericho noted that after wrestling for 15 years, he was mentally burnt out and that he is a "goal oriented person who thrives on a challenge and I’m not challenged by wrestling at this point in time," noting that he has accomplished everything he ever wanted to do in the business.

This doesn't seem like part of any storyangle, and he'd been teasing about this for awhile, I guess this just confirms it. This just goes to show WWE that when they mis-use one of their biggest stars they become burnt out and don't have the passion for the biz anymore. Sucks because Jericho was one of my favs, and his recent run as a heel was great.

Hope we'll see him in the ring again sometime soon, whether it be WWE or TNA.

[punishermax]

Where did they find this Kennedy guy? I think he's gonna go far. Good first impression.

He was in NWA-ACW (All Star Championship Wrestling) aka NWA Wisconsin, I've gone to one ACW show and it wasn't too bad but Ken wasn't there, his name was Kamikaze Ken and he used the top rope roll through deally bop there too.

(To my friend Nathan, I saw him wrestle on one of my ACW tapes, oh and we're wrestling on Sunday, too....hopefully)

[punishermax]

I guess it's official, WWE just lost one of their biggest stars...

From Jericho's official website:

"I eventually had my first match on Oct 2, 1990 in Ponoka, Alberta….and on August 22, 2005 in Hampton, Virginia, I had my last match. For now. Yes it’s true. After months of speculation and rumors and numerous decoys and red herrings being thrown about, the official news from the boss man (me) is that I am leaving the WWE." Jericho noted that after wrestling for 15 years, he was mentally burnt out and that he is a "goal oriented person who thrives on a challenge and I’m not challenged by wrestling at this point in time," noting that he has accomplished everything he ever wanted to do in the business.

This doesn't seem like part of any storyangle, and he'd been teasing about this for awhile, I guess this just confirms it. This just goes to show WWE that when they mis-use one of their biggest stars they become burnt out and don't have the passion for the biz anymore. Sucks because Jericho was one of my favs, and his recent run as a heel was great.

Hope we'll see him in the ring again sometime soon, whether it be WWE or TNA.

He has teased a lot of things on his website that never came to fruition, so don't take it as a for sure.

[jackcool]

I guess it's official, WWE just lost one of their biggest stars...

From Jericho's official website:

"I eventually had my first match on Oct 2, 1990 in Ponoka, Alberta….and on August 22, 2005 in Hampton, Virginia, I had my last match. For now. Yes it’s true. After months of speculation and rumors and numerous decoys and red herrings being thrown about, the official news from the boss man (me) is that I am leaving the WWE." Jericho noted that after wrestling for 15 years, he was mentally burnt out and that he is a "goal oriented person who thrives on a challenge and I’m not challenged by wrestling at this point in time," noting that he has accomplished everything he ever wanted to do in the business.

This doesn't seem like part of any storyangle, and he'd been teasing about this for awhile, I guess this just confirms it. This just goes to show WWE that when they mis-use one of their biggest stars they become burnt out and don't have the passion for the biz anymore. Sucks because Jericho was one of my favs, and his recent run as a heel was great.

Hope we'll see him in the ring again sometime soon, whether it be WWE or TNA.

Yeah, I kinda suspected something like this would happen. Seriously, once you're on a "break" from the WWE (and not named Triple H), you're not coming back :(

[Hunter Rider]

To bad about Y2J in a way but i think he has probably grown tired of the way he has been underused in the last 2 years,i think he will take a bit of time off and then go to TNA in summer 2006

I sure hope not. Brock is 1,000x better than Batista. Batista's matches suck, big time.He's really not that great though. I've always seen him as a guy who can jump high, but not much else. He's more fun to watch than HHH or Batista, but that's not saying much. If he's the future, despair.

I agree and disagree,Lesnar yes is much more talented than Batista and a bigger draw,so far Batista has only drawn when in with HHH,However i think Orton is highly talented,he has great technique and timing as well as athleticism and good high spots

[jackcool]

You know, the WWE really should've just gotten Don Callis to play the UPN exec.....:mad:

[0neDisturbedSOB]

To bad about Y2J in a way but i think he has probably grown tired of the way he has been underused in the last 2 years,i think he will take a bit of time off and then go to TNA in summer 2006



I agree and disagree,Lesnar yes is much more talented than Batista and a bigger draw,so far Batista has only drawn when in with HHH,However i think Orton is highly talented,he has great technique and timing as well as athleticism and good high spots

The crowd seemed to be behind Batista at SS when he took on JBL.

I was only into Lesnar when he first debut and DIDN'T TALK, once he started chatting it up I lost all interest. I also thought his run as a face was completely ridiculous. The only time I like Lesnar is when I'm kicking the s**t out of someone in WWE Smackdown HCTP.

[Colossal Spoons]

Lesnar was only cool to me when he beat the crap out of the Hardy Boys for like 2 months straight. Yeah, he may be more talented than Batista but he has an amateur wrestling backround. That's like a match between Kurt Angle and the Big Show. Batista is all about hype, man he's great.

About Jericho, I didn't like the way they were using him ever since his last heel turn(The red beard). Vince's whole purpose for splitting the 2 brands was to give the superstars more time in the spotlight yet we've seen people like The Hurricane, The Undertaker, and a few others just kinda hangin around.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Jericho was underused from day 1. His debut in WWE was phenomenal, I was genuinely hyped for that one, but he never got the title run he deserved. His WWE title reign was a joke, since he was basically a belt warmer for HHH.

The WM that had HHH VS Jericho was a joke.

I like Batista too.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm seriously starting to wonder how much behind the scenes politics is involved with the WWE or is just a lack of superstars. Ok, HHH's 5 year championships reigns can be explained: he's bangin the boss's daughter, and everybody knows it. But what's with JBL? This is like his 5th title shot in the last few months. He's a great heel and all; I truly hate his guts and that's his job but c'mon. You got guys like Benoit and Guerrero who'd give a much more entertaining fight actually, but they keep them busy with child custody storylines and the US Championship belt(what a joke).

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Benoit deserved a MUCH longer title reign.

[Hunter Rider]

The crowd seemed to be behind Batista at SS when he took on JBL.

I was only into Lesnar when he first debut and DIDN'T TALK, once he started chatting it up I lost all interest. I also thought his run as a face was completely ridiculous. The only time I like Lesnar is when I'm kicking the s**t out of someone in WWE Smackdown HCTP.

when i was refering to drawing i didn't mean getting pops i was meaning money,the GAB was the lowest grossing PPV for over a year,he did get a big pop at SS but he was in his home town,i think WWE are smart in using him sparsely as the crowd will get wise to just how limited he is
As far as your view on Lesnar i'll just agree to disagree,i enjoyed a lot of his matches something i havent with Batista,i did think he worked better as a heel though

[Hunter Rider]

Benoit deserved a MUCH longer title reign.

He had it 5 months and again as you pointed out the other day,it's a mix of great in ring performing and entertaining and Benoit was never that popular and really didnt have much in the way of good mic work or entertaining the crowd

[0neDisturbedSOB]

There are some people that should NOT be "good guys"...Lesnar is one of them.

I think Batista has potential, but his age is working against him. I enjoy his intensity, and actually stood up and clapped when he planted HHH through the table prior to WM. I liked that angle because for the first time HHH was facing someone physically 'bigger' than he is....like he wouldn't be able to walk all over this guy.

I liked his original theme too...it has a "horror movie" feel to it.

[Hunter Rider]

Name: Ryan

I was wondering if Stone Cold Steve Austin will ever participate in a match again. It would be great to see him back in action. Is his injury as severe as HBK's was when he broke his back and managed to return a few years later?

JR

If I were a betting man and I have been known to engage in a game of Texas Hold ?Em from time to time, I would say we would absolutely see the Texas Rattlesnake in the ring again. When and against whom is the $64,000 question. WrestleMania 22 in Chicago wouldn't be a bad place. Until then, Steve is working on his developing movie career in Hollywood and is continuing to train and is in great shape and looks like he could kick some ass about any time he was called upon.

Name: Josh Tapp

Ever since I saw Shelton Benjamin vs. Shawn Michaels on RAW, I have been following Benjamin. He is one of the main reasons I watch RAW (of course the other BIG reason is because of Shawn Michaels). I think Shelton is the future of WWE. In your opinion, how long will it be until he becomes WWE Champion? I hope it's rather soon. I am anxious to see his star shine.

JR

Athletically speaking, Shelton has every tool he needs in his tool box to be a big timer. Shelton, in my opinion, is lacking in the verbal area and when he gets more comfortable speaking, his star will shine brighter. This comes with repetition and experience. Shelton has a great personality and is fun to talk to backstage. He just needs to be able to express himself verbally in front of the camera as well as he does behind the camera. South Carolina's greatest three-sport star is obviously very gifted athletically and his time will come perhaps sooner than we think.


This is from the Ross Report,i have to agree with what he says about Shelton,hopefully is right that his time is coming soon
As for the other part about Austin,i just hope it's the right match he returns for

[Hunter Rider]

I think Batista has potential, but his age is working against him. I enjoy his intensity, and actually stood up and clapped when he planted HHH through the table prior to WM. I liked that angle because for the first time HHH was facing someone physically 'bigger' than he is....like he wouldn't be able to walk all over this guy.

.

The Angle was a good one i agree but the matches wern't that great IMO
I had hoped Batista would improve but at 40 and not a natural i think he's about as good as he's gonna get,
That's what i liked about Cena's matches with Y2J he is showing improvement and that will continue when wrestling with Angle over the next 2 months

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I loved the whole turning on Evolution thing, we all saw it coming but we all sat and waited for the right time and then BOOM, HHH goes through a table.

Awesome!

The HHH VS Batista match at WM21 was WAY better than the Cena VS JBL match.

[Hunter Rider]

I loved the whole turning on Evolution thing, we all saw it coming but we all sat and waited for the right time and then BOOM, HHH goes through a table.

Awesome!

The HHH VS Batista match at WM21 was WAY better than the Cena VS JBL match.

Yeah it was the best built angle for a while and yes it was a better match than Cena/JBL but thats not really saying a lot given how poor that match was
I think a feud with Orton will be good for Batista,to have an athletic opponent who can help showcase his main feature-his power

[0neDisturbedSOB]

An Orton/Batista feud will be great. They teased at it for awhile and it went nowhere....now that Evolution is officially over, it'll be nice to see these 2 go at it.

I would've loved to see a Cena/Orton feud.

[jackcool]

I'm seriously starting to wonder how much behind the scenes politics is involved with the WWE or is just a lack of superstars. Ok, HHH's 5 year championships reigns can be explained: he's bangin the boss's daughter, and everybody knows it. But what's with JBL? This is like his 5th title shot in the last few months. He's a great heel and all; I truly hate his guts and that's his job but c'mon. You got guys like Benoit and Guerrero who'd give a much more entertaining fight actually, but they keep them busy with child custody storylines and the US Championship belt(what a joke).

The only reason why JBL continually gets main event pushes right now is because he's a veteran in the WWE. The WWE has always tried to have a singles push with him for years, dating back to when he was Justin "The Hawk" Bradshaw. Plus, JBL is also seen as a "backstage leader" behind the scenes. Although, that might be stretching it because he's actually more of a bully.....

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Not to mention Vince LOVES the character.

[Angelus103]

on jericho message board
it says chris is going to try out for the new york rangers

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Who knows what's true anymore, all I know is that the WWE seriously f**ked up by mis-using him.

[Hunter Rider]

Looking at some of these recent anouncements i cant help thinking about WM22

the possibilities are very interesting IMO

WWE Title-Angle vs RVD
World title-Batista vs Lesnar
HBK vs The Rock

and how about Austin facing Randy in and RKO vs The Stunner match,it could play into the legend killer gimmick if he beats austin at WM22

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Angle VS RVD? where'd you hear that one?

I thought it was pretty much a lock that if Austin was up to it there'd be a Austin VS Hogan match.

Thought Lesnar backed out of his WWE contract? and I'd be shocked to see Batista hold onto that title up until WM22, even if he lost it and won it back. I read that Vince sees Cena as the new franchise for the WWE and that he views Batista as a lower level champ (hence the reason for the move to Smackdown)

[Colossal Spoons]

^^ Those sound really good. Especially Batista/Lesnar. I'd like to see Rocky fight somebody else though.

[Hunter Rider]

Angle VS RVD? where'd you hear that one?

this one came outv'e my mind to be honest:D
It's just WWE are pushing Angle hard right now and i think he will take the title off Cena by Survivor Series,i really don't see another rematch at WM22 so it would be the ideal time to give RVD his chance,in the same way Benoit got his at WM20[/QUOTE]

I thought it was pretty much a lock that if Austin was up to it there'd be a Austin VS Hogan match.


Austin has commented several times that he didn't want to work with Hogan due to the huge limitations and also Hogan keeps slighting him.I think its more likely Austin will do a match that well help put someone over and Orton would be ideal


Thought Lesnar backed out of his WWE contract? and I'd be shocked to see Batista hold onto that title up until WM22, even if he lost it and won it back. I read that Vince sees Cena as the new franchise for the WWE and that he views Batista as a lower level champ (hence the reason for the move to Smackdown)


Thats the story but i bet it's a work to try and make his return a surprise,I think that SD only has 2 faces that could face Lesnar and Batista seems more liley than Benoit IMO

[Hunter Rider]

^^ Those sound really good. Especially Batista/Lesnar. I'd like to see Rocky fight somebody else though.

:confused: why ? its the ultimate sports entertainers match
who do you want Rock to fight ?

[Colossal Spoons]

The Masterpice maybe. I dunno, I really like Chris Masters. With some more practice, he'll be more than a body sculpture.

[SLYspyder]

masters is a rising star, he's got great mic work

[vegeta21]

Give Rene Dupre the title, then I could proudly say that one of my cousin's best friends is the WWE champion!

[White_Howling]

on a side note day of reckoning 2 comes out next week!!!

i hope they didn't power up cena

[Goblin5679]

Hey,just saw this today and im pretty glad they finally got around to doing it.



WWE sent out the following email today:

On Tuesday, November 1, WWE will release the first-ever complete WrestleMania DVD collection titled WrestleMania: The Complete Anthology. Beginning with WrestleMania I in 1985 and spanning all the way to the historic 2005 show, this unique box set will thrill sports (http://www.rajah.com/base/2005/4037#) entertainment fans of all ages. The set contains four individual, 5-disc digi-packs with each containing 5 exciting years of WrestleMania allowing fans the opportunity to witness every slam, every bell and every single WrestleMania moment. Watch Hall of Famers like Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant to The Rock, Undertaker and Triple H (http://www.rajah.com/base/2005/4037#) to Mike Tyson and even NFL great Lawrence Taylor. See immortals collide and titles change hands in epic battles that could only happen on sports entertainment’s grandest stage.

Highlights:

For the first time ever, the complete WrestleMania DVD collection
Includes all 20 WrestleMania events plus (exclusively available only in the box set) WrestleMania 21.
Additional box exclusive extras:
Historical DVD photo gallery
Four collectible cards each featuring a famous WrestleMania moment captured on a replica piece of film.
WrestleMania 1-14 events have never been released on DVD!
WrestleMania 20 and 21 are currently the two best selling WWE DVD titles of all time, each shipping 200,000+ copies.

[Hunter Rider]

from wz

Just before Muhammad Hassan was removed from the equation, the plan was for Batista to defeat Hassan at Summerslam and move onto a feud with Randy Orton. In the weeks that followed, talk began to surface regarding plans for a Batista vs. Eddie Guerrero feud, only for later reports to confirm that Batista vs. Orton was still on the cards. There's now evidence to suggest that Batista vs. Guerrero might be on after all.

According to PWInsider.com, house show lineups for late September feature Batista squaring off against Eddie Guerrero. The lineups also feature the continuation of Randy Orton vs. Undertaker, furthering the notion that the Orton-Batista feud has been postponed.

Assuming WWE does not once again revert to Batista vs. Randy Orton, one can draw the conclusion that WWE deemed Orton unprepared for a high-profile title feud. Orton's perceived lack of readiness for such a feud was what led to the Guerrero-Batista discussions in the first place, and the feeling is that a lengthier feud with Undertaker can help him rise to the level of being a top heel.

[Twitch]

from wz

Just before Muhammad Hassan was removed from the equation, the plan was for Batista to defeat Hassan at Summerslam and move onto a feud with Randy Orton. In the weeks that followed, talk began to surface regarding plans for a Batista vs. Eddie Guerrero feud, only for later reports to confirm that Batista vs. Orton was still on the cards. There's now evidence to suggest that Batista vs. Guerrero might be on after all.

According to PWInsider.com, house show lineups for late September feature Batista squaring off against Eddie Guerrero. The lineups also feature the continuation of Randy Orton vs. Undertaker, furthering the notion that the Orton-Batista feud has been postponed.

Assuming WWE does not once again revert to Batista vs. Randy Orton, one can draw the conclusion that WWE deemed Orton unprepared for a high-profile title feud. Orton's perceived lack of readiness for such a feud was what led to the Guerrero-Batista discussions in the first place, and the feeling is that a lengthier feud with Undertaker can help him rise to the level of being a top heel.

I find this to be good news considering Eddie can help show off Batista's power. They need a fresh angle for Orton and Taker considering WM angle is getting old IMO. They should have let Orton take the title now and have Taker fuend with CC. Eddie could fuend with Benoit. JBL should go to hell :o:down

[Hunter Rider]

I find this to be good news considering Eddie can help show off Batista's power. They need a fresh angle for Orton and Taker considering WM angle is getting old IMO. They should have let Orton take the title now and have Taker fuend with CC. Eddie could fuend with Benoit. JBL should go to hell :o:down

:up:
i just hope there not planning to try and draw out Orton vs Batista to WM22:(
at the latest it should take place at Survivor Series

[Lobo]

WMania22 will probably be Brock vs Batista.

[Twitch]

:up:
i just hope there not planning to try and draw out Orton vs Batista to WM22:(
at the latest it should take place at Survivor Series

Have Batista win at SS then Brock comes out with a chair shot out of no where and bam you have WM 22 :up:

[Metamorpho1977]

Hey, wasn't the Network exec on the first season of Tough Enough?

[jackcool]

I dunno, but does he even look a bit believable as a Network exec? He just looks like another typical OVW wrestler in a suit......

[Metamorpho1977]

We'll get a match between him and Teddy Long at Survivor Series.

[Hunter Rider]

We'll get a match between him and Teddy Long at Survivor Series.

God i hope not:(

[jackcool]

Indeed :(

If they really want this guy to be a future wrestler, they should've just got a guy who doesn't look like a wrestler to be the exec. He could then hire a few wrestlers to be "UPN's choice" as the star of Smackdown. Long of course opposes this. And this sets up a whole feud.

[Super Kal]

Hey,just saw this today and im pretty glad they finally got around to doing it.



WWE sent out the following email today:

On Tuesday, November 1, WWE will release the first-ever complete WrestleMania DVD collection titled WrestleMania: The Complete Anthology. Beginning with WrestleMania I in 1985 and spanning all the way to the historic 2005 show, this unique box set will thrill sports (http://www.rajah.com/base/2005/4037#) entertainment fans of all ages. The set contains four individual, 5-disc digi-packs with each containing 5 exciting years of WrestleMania allowing fans the opportunity to witness every slam, every bell and every single WrestleMania moment. Watch Hall of Famers like Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant to The Rock, Undertaker and Triple H (http://www.rajah.com/base/2005/4037#) to Mike Tyson and even NFL great Lawrence Taylor. See immortals collide and titles change hands in epic battles that could only happen on sports entertainment’s grandest stage.

Highlights:

For the first time ever, the complete WrestleMania DVD collection
Includes all 20 WrestleMania events plus (exclusively available only in the box set) WrestleMania 21.
Additional box exclusive extras:
Historical DVD photo gallery
Four collectible cards each featuring a famous WrestleMania moment captured on a replica piece of film.
WrestleMania 1-14 events have never been released on DVD!
WrestleMania 20 and 21 are currently the two best selling WWE DVD titles of all time, each shipping 200,000+ copies.
How much would something like this cost?

[Hunter Rider]

Indeed :(

If they really want this guy to be a future wrestler, they should've just got a guy who doesn't look like a wrestler to be the exec. He could then hire a few wrestlers to be "UPN's choice" as the star of Smackdown. Long of course opposes this. And this sets up a whole feud.

that wouldve been much better,this angle is already sounding like the right censor crap again

[jackcool]

that wouldve been much better,this angle is already sounding like the right censor crap again

Well, it's just the first week of the angle. I'm hoping that they might do something later on like try and force a wrestler out because he doesn't really fit with what UPN wanted.

Yeah sure, this angle is an exact copy of ECW's angle, but it's a great angle nonetheless :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Well, it's just the first week of the angle. I'm hoping that they might do something later on like try and force a wrestler out because he doesn't really fit with what UPN wanted.

Yeah sure, this angle is an exact copy of ECW's angle, but it's a great angle nonetheless :up:

who would they use as the wrestler that doesn't fit ? maybe the mexicools ?

[jackcool]

Or Chris Benoit. They could say that he doesn't have the personality to be someone the WWE and UPN could put stock in. This would then be the perfect opportunity to bring Benoit back into the main event.

[Hunter Rider]

Or Chris Benoit. They could say that he doesn't have the personality to be someone the WWE and UPN could put stock in. This would then be the perfect opportunity to bring Benoit back into the main event.

Now i could see that working,it would build support for Benoit as well

[jackcool]

Yep. This whole UPN thing could also set up a future Brock-Batista feud as UPN feels that Batista may be too old to stay on top so they bring back Lesner to take out Batista. This whole Network thing does have a lot of possibilities. Whether or not they actually go ahead with it or just make the Network executive another wrestler remains to be seen......

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. This whole UPN thing could also set up a future Brock-Batista feud as UPN feels that Batista may be too old to stay on top so they bring back Lesner to take out Batista. This whole Network thing does have a lot of possibilities. Whether or not they actually go ahead with it or just make the Network executive another wrestler remains to be seen......

That would be ideal,Instead of WWE bringing Brock back make it look like UPN is bringing him back as their choice for champ

[jackcool]

Yep. And this might fit in with the whole announcement made on WWE.com a few weeks back that "Brock Lesner has ended negotiations with the WWE". Maybe they're trying to once again blur reality with a WWE storyline?

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. And this might fit in with the whole announcement made on WWE.com a few weeks back that "Brock Lesner has ended negotiations with the WWE". Maybe they're trying to once again blur reality with a WWE storyline?

Yeah another "shoot" angle,A Benoit/Lesnar feud would be gold IMO

[Lobo]

Yeah another "shoot" angle,A Benoit/Lesnar feud would be gold IMO


It would but Benoit needs better mic skills :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Well isn't WWE trying to get Smackdown off of UPN? Thought I heard that somewhere. I'd love it cuz I'm tired of them censoring Melina's entrance; turnin the camera away and what not not lol.

I'm actually not lookin forward to a Batista/Guerrero feud. Bor starters, Dave would never be able to catch Eddie, he's the slipperiest wrestler on SD. However, 1 good Batista Bomb is all it would take to end the match.

[Hunter Rider]

I'm actually not lookin forward to a Batista/Guerrero feud. Bor starters, Dave would never be able to catch Eddie, he's the slipperiest wrestler on SD. However, 1 good Batista Bomb is all it would take to end the match.

Gotta disagree,Eddie is classic and he can help Batista look good given how limited Batista is

[Lobo]

Eddie can do anything :o

[Metamorpho1977]

I heard WWE was trying to get a deal with NBC for Smackdown.

[Hunter Rider]

Just seen the Shelton/Angle match from RAW....damn that would make an awesome title match for Mania:o :up:

[Lobo]

I heard that also supposedly something is happening in december?

[Lobo]

Just seen the Shelton/Angle match from RAW....damn that would make an awesome title match for Mania:o :up:


Dont you wish every match could be like that :(. BTW Hunter did you see Twitch's request in the avvy thread? h emust want you to kill him :p

[Hunter Rider]

Dont you wish every match could be like that :(. BTW Hunter did you see Twitch's request in the avvy thread? h emust want you to kill him :p

Yes i do,great performances from both guys:( :up:

what request is this ? i did his ren and stimpy one ?

[Lobo]

The Cena one :(

[Hunter Rider]

The Cena one :(

Oh yeah,i saw it lol,im kinda laying off Cena for now,i though his matches with Y2J were pretty good and if can keep improving he may work out

I wish he'd drop the corny lines though "Real recognizes Real" http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_2_5.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824AXGB)

[Lobo]

a friend of mine has some tapes from OVW and he's actually better than what he shows, though that match being good was mainly due to Jericho. And yeah he needs to drop that corny *****

I want these feuds

Angle vs Shelton
Jericho vs Eddie (I know diferent shows but stll)
RVD vs Benoit (same as above)

[Hunter Rider]

they'd be some great feuds:up:

I think theyv'e put Cena in the right feud with Angle but they need to take Bischoff out the storyline,it just makes it look like a pathetic second rate rip off of Mcmahon/Austin

Looks like Matt will be back on Heat soon as well

[Lobo]

That sucks for Matt. Angle can get a good match out of Cena.

Your Scarlet avy is hypnotizing me.

[Hunter Rider]

That sucks for Matt. Angle can get a good match out of Cena.

Your Scarlet avy is hypnotizing me.
:eek: :up:

Well Matt did kinda buried himself with that crap first night back promo:(
I think the crowd have lost interest in him now the senstionalism has died down

[Lobo]

He needs Jeff now.

[3dman27]

I heard WWE was trying to get a deal with NBC for Smackdown.
i don't think thats very likely

[Colossal Spoons]

I dunno what to say about the whole Matt/Edge thing. This is the one storyline where I can't tell what's real and what's not. Even their Summerslam match was questionable. The ref was allowing closed fist punches the whole time. I wasn't sitting on the side that Matt hurt himself on but even that looked real.

About Matt's intensity dying down, I totally agree. A good Hardy Boys reunion would be great. Then of course, E&C would have to come back and that would be fabulous. No Dudley's though :mad:

[Sabretooth]

I sort of want Edge to kick Matt's ass.Matt's been annoying me ever since I found out how immature he is in real life.:o

[White_Howling]

He needs Jeff now.

Jeff got sloppy.. I mean he does leg drops off the top rope.. even in TNA hes not even close to when he did all those crazy stunts on WWE ladder matches

[Jason Blood]

I think the whole internet thing he had going for him died down, now everyone's not sure about what's real and what's not

[Colossal Spoons]

I sort of want Edge to kick Matt's ass.Matt's been annoying me ever since I found out how immature he is in real life.:o

What did he do?

[Jason Blood]

Velocity's looking pretty good

Doug Basham's gonna be on it

I hope he uses his The Last Impression/Lightning Leg Lariat finisher

some British Guy from OVW is gonna debut

[Goblin5679]

How much would something like this cost?

$279.95




http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/645/645824/wrestlemania-the-complete-anthology-20050826022738510.jpg

[GLfan]

:eek: :up:

Well Matt did kinda buried himself with that crap first night back promo:(
I think the crowd have lost interest in him now the senstionalism has died down
They should have brought him back sooner!

[Hunter Rider]

Source: The Torch Newsletter

With a week past since SummerSlam, there was a lot of talk regarding the Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels match at the event in Washington, DC. According to reports, Vince McMahon made a very firm decision to have Hogan go over with the legdrop against Michaels and Michaels didn't put up a fight regarding that finish. Many feel that by Michaels not arguing the finish, it was going to give him the ability to have a forum the following night on RAW to say what he wanted about about the situation. Coincidentally, Michaels ended up doing just that on RAW in a rather sarcastic way.

Even though Michaels didn't argue the finish with Vince McMahon, those close to Michaels have stated that he didn't return phone calls after SummerSlam right away and that led many to believing he was more upset and frustrated as a whole about the situation with Hogan and his inability to "pull enough strings" like Hogan backstage. Some have also came to the conclusion that Michaels could have sabotaged the match if he wanted to by not selling anything for Hogan, but given that he is a devout Christian now many felt he was doing as much as possible to not let the "old Shawn Michaels" come out.

According to one WWE source regarding the Hogan vs. Michaels match, "Michaels stole the show and made Hogan look better than he is. The finish was fine. Michaels gained great respect with his efforts." Many feel Michaels was able to get back some edge despite the loss to Hogan the night after SummerSlam on RAW with some of his snide comments towards Hogan. From what is understood, there are no plans for Hogan to return for another match in the immediate future. Many feel it is only a matter of time until he returns, with one WWE source stating that Hogan might have agreed to do a job at WrestleMania 22 if he was to get the win over Michaels at SummerSlam. Who Hogan's opponent would be at WrestleMania next year is still up in the air, as John Cena and even Stone Cold Steve Austin have been rumored as possible candidates.



Now ignoring the other crap and getting to the bottom part i wouldve thought WWE would have realised Hogan is finished in the ring however it looks like 1 more match is planned:(
The Austin match would be pointless,no way can SC carry Hogan the way HBK and The Rock did plus the finish would be of little use to either man as the match will be a one off
So a match with Cena seems smarter but again beating Hogan means nothing now and i think Cena will struggle to carry Hogan as well,also who would be the face as if they put them in with both as faces it will turn out bad for Cena

[Twitch]

Now ignoring the other crap and getting to the bottom part i wouldve thought WWE would have realised Hogan is finished in the ring however it looks like 1 more match is planned:(
The Austin match would be pointless,no way can SC carry Hogan the way HBK and The Rock did plus the finish would be of little use to either man as the match will be a one off
So a match with Cena seems smarter but again beating Hogan means nothing now and i think Cena will struggle to carry Hogan as well,also who would be the face as if they put them in with both as faces it will turn out bad for Cena

They should let Hogan retire and the legends match should be HBK vs. The Rock :up:. Cena would be improved but not enough to carry Hogan :down

(note to everybody I found a **** load of animated wrestling .gifs, Name a wrestler and I'll try to find it :up:)

[Lobo]

Randy savage

[Twitch]

Randy savage

I have some Hogan :o:(

[Lobo]

Macho>Hogan :mad: pm me the Hogan ones.

[Twitch]

Macho>Hogan :mad: pm me the Hogan ones.

I'll do it later,

I gotta go

[Hunter Rider]

They should let Hogan retire and the legends match should be HBK vs. The Rock :up:. Cena would be improved but not enough to carry Hogan :down

(note to everybody I found a **** load of animated wrestling .gifs, Name a wrestler and I'll try to find it :up:)

I think we'll get HBK/Rock:up: and im hoping Austin works with Orton to help further the legend killer gimmick

Sadly Hogan will most likely make another in ring appearence at Mania:(


Of the GIFs i'd like a one of HBK doing a super kick and Benoit doing the cross face please:up:

[Twitch]

I'm getting a little lazy but here

http://www.forever-shawn.net/mm/gifs/8.gif

[T]

$279.95




http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/645/645824/wrestlemania-the-complete-anthology-20050826022738510.jpg
Looks awesome but that's a hell of a pricetag. Still, I would love to have XM14 and WMXVII on DVD.

[Twitch]

I was thinking about buying a TNA DVD

Best of Jeff Hardy
Best of AJ Styles
Best of Raven(might not happen cause my parents won't let me see the hardcore stuff until I'm older :(:down )

Which would you choose?

[Lobo]

I'll do it later,

I gotta go


No problem :up: get the Jeff hardy dvd. How old are you anyway?

[Twitch]

No problem :up: get the Jeff hardy dvd. How old are you anyway?

I'm 13 and my mom won't let me get anything ECW till I'm 15 damm :(
I'm 14 in in November so I will try to talk to her about it again.

[Lobo]

I dont blame her ECW gets pretty nuts. 14 is old enough though ;)

[Twitch]

I dont blame her ECW gets pretty nuts. 14 is old enough though ;)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/slash9885/hulkhogan3.gif

This is the only one that was badass :o

[Lobo]

No leg drop ones?

[Twitch]

No leg drop ones?

Nope :(

[The Techno Bat]

I was thinking about buying a TNA DVD

Best of Jeff Hardy
Best of AJ Styles
Best of Raven(might not happen cause my parents won't let me see the hardcore stuff until I'm older :(:down )

Which would you choose?

Seeing as Jeff Hardy hasn't really been in TNA all that long I would cross him off the list and if you have seen him in the WWF/WWE then you have really already seen what he brings to the table.

Now the same could be said about Raven but he has been with TNA pretty much since the begining. And would be a good choice.

But I would say get the AJ Styles, he is young and fresh and you never know what he is going to do. He is one of the young guns that is going to carry this sport for years to come.

[The Techno Bat]

Do you have any of VAMPIRO? The Animated GIF's? ? ?

[Twitch]

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/3333/jeff7yx.gif

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/3290/rko3xr7xj.gif

http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/uploads/kazarian.gif
For this one cut it down to when he's about to hit the clash and repeat

Thanks Hunt

Hey Techno, no Vampiro...do you want an ECW one, thay have some pretty insane ones.

[Hunter Rider]

Here Ya go Twitch,i formated them to the best setting for their size

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8811/13qt.gif


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2221/23xr.gif

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/24/32yz.gif

[Lobo]

Nive work as always hr :up: Twitch you gotany Ultimate Warrior gifs?

[Twitch]

Nive work as always hr :up: Twitch you gotany Ultimate Warrior gifs?

I got this cool one, hold on...

http://www.thewrestlingchannel.tv/forums/html/avatars/Misc/warrior.gif

[Twitch]

Here Ya go Twitch,i formated them to the best setting for their size

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8811/13qt.gif


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2221/23xr.gif

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/24/32yz.gif

Thanks man :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks man :up:

;) :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Hey Twitch have ya got any Stone Cold Stunner GIFS ? especially of the Rock getting stunned

[Twitch]

Hey Twitch have ya got any Stone Cold Stunner GIFS ? especially of the Rock getting stunned

How bout one from a Rock vs. Triple H Ladder Match?

[Twitch]

http://members.fortunecity.com/americana316/0d3a0700.gif

nify Xpac one

http://members.fortunecity.com/americana316/0cfa0700.gif

http://wrestlinguniverse.htmlplanet.com/images/dx.gif

[Hunter Rider]

How bout one from a Rock vs. Triple H Ladder Match?

yeah sure:up: but if you find a stunner one let me know;)


Matt Hardy recently answered some tough questions at a Q & A session at WrestleReunion this past weekend. Here are some highlights:

Hardy was asked to work WWE events this weekend but turned them down due to already committing to WrestleReunion which probably didn't make management happy.

Hardy was asked why he returned to WWE to get 'buried'. He noted that it was only part one of a five chapter story.

He noted that there are hard feelings between Edge-Lita-Hardy but that there were only four people who knew the entire story.

He says the two are just trying to make money with each other and when he was asked why he lost to Edge at SummerSlam, he said "Ask me again in six months".

When asked about losing to Rob Conway on Raw, Hardy said that he was "still hurt" from Summerslam.

Hardy also noted that Triple H is powerful backstage and that sometimes he agrees with him and other times he does not.

[Hunter Rider]

edit

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWInsider.com

Paul London has been at home the last several weeks due to a family illness. WWE management gave London the time off to get everything situated and he'll be back in a few weeks.

London has been very negative towards management ever since the road agents at the Rochester Smackdown taping several weeks ago requested that he change his finisher. London told the agents that he wanted to speak to Vince McMahon about the situation first. Several sources indicated that when he went to McMahon he gave a plea stating that he not ban any high flying moves because guys like him who were small would really never make it to the top and wouldn't be huge muscular guys. He said it was the cruiserweight style and that it shouldn't be toned down. McMahon's 'response' to that was having London drop the title to Nunzio the next week and has since been cutting 'whiny' interviews. That is normally what happens when you approach management about something you don't like or agree with. It's interesting that WWE management always tells the wrestlers to 'submit idea's but when they do, they sure pay the price.



Geniushttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif ^^^^^^^^^^^

-- PWInsider is reporting that WWE has just signed Vader to a WWE Legends deal.

He last wrestled in Japan at Zero-One's Hustle-1 show in early 2004, where he lost to the late Shinya Hashimoto. Vader was last seen wrestling in the United States for Jersey All Pro Wrestling, in mid-2004, when teamed with Mike Awesome to defeat Samoa Joe and Dan Maff.

You may have also seen Vader on TV earlier this year, when he appeared in an episode of Blue Collar TV.

[Bad Superman]

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/vader.jpg

It's time!! It's time!! It's VADER TIME!!!!!

He's one of my favorites.

[jackcool]

http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/uploads/kazarian.gif


OUch, I remember that one. It's surprising that Kazarian actually wrestled the very next week :eek:

[Twitch]

OUch, I remember that one. It's surprising that Kazarian actually wrestled the very next week :eek:

Oh, that reminds me I have a Kevin Shamarock if you want it :up:

[jackcool]

What does it look like? :confused:

[Twitch]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9559/kenshamrock1.gif

I think its his entrance movie :confused:

[White_Howling]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9559/kenshamrock1.gif

I think its his entrance movie :confused:


yeah its his entrance movie..

Batista is one strong mother F#$ just watched summer slam.. picked up jbl!!! and power bombed him! DAMN

[jackcool]

It looks like it :confused:

It's not bad. I'll maybe end up using it later. Thanks :up:

[White_Howling]

OUch, I remember that one. It's surprising that Kazarian actually wrestled the very next week :eek:


fudge thats one nasty mistake!

[jackcool]

Batista is one strong mother F#$ just watched summer slam.. picked up jbl!!! and power bombed him! DAMN

That's why Batista makes a pretty good face. Yeah, his wrestling skills are pretty limited, and he can't talk as well as other wrestlers. But he's just pure power and when he walks around with all the confidence in the world, that just helps him get super-over with the fans.

[Twitch]

It looks like it :confused:

It's not bad. I'll maybe end up using it later. Thanks :up:

You might have to ask HR to lower the bytes and might not be able to resize

Damm SHH rules :(:down

[Jason Blood]

Oh, that reminds me I have a Kevin Shamarock if you want it :up:
That's Ken Shamrock

[jackcool]

You know, after watching this week's Impact, it looks like they're trying to turn AMW heel...:confused: And to be honest, this signs like a great turn. AMW has basically done everything as a face tag team, it would be very interesting to see them as a cocky, heel team :up:

[Jason Blood]

they need to break up AMW

really

[0neDisturbedSOB]

When does TNA debut on Spike?

[jackcool]

they need to break up AMW

really

Maybe later. Chris Harris could really break out in the main event. But for now, I want to see a heel AMW wrestle for a bit.

[Twitch]

When does TNA debut on Spike?

I think it takes over Velocity's slot on Oct. 1

[jackcool]

hmmm.....the top ten for the PWI 500 certainly seems interesting:

1.Batista
2.John Cena
3. Satoshi Kojima
4. Triple H
5. JBL
6. Kurt Angle
7. AJ Styles
8. Edge
9. Shelton Benjamin
10. Hiroyoshi Tenzan

Other notables are Chris Benoit at #13, Christopher Daniels at #17 (really surpising, this guy should be at the top ten at least), and Shawn Michaels at #34 (behind Muhammad Hassan, Undertaker, Monty Brown and the ****ing Big Show).

[Hunter Rider]

hmmm.....the top ten for the PWI 500 certainly seems interesting:

1.Batista
2.John Cena
3. Satoshi Kojima
4. Triple H
5. JBL
6. Kurt Angle
7. AJ Styles
8. Edge
9. Shelton Benjamin
10. Hiroyoshi Tenzan

Other notables are Chris Benoit at #13, Christopher Daniels at #17 (really surpising, this guy should be at the top ten at least), and Shawn Michaels at #34 (behind Muhammad Hassan, Undertaker, Monty Brown and the ****ing Big Show).


What does this list supposedly represent ?:confused:

[The Batman]

Shelton's in the top ten?

Badass

[jackcool]

The rankings of every wrestler, I think :confused:

I think it just looks at how every wrestler did the past year and ranks them. For example, Batista had a great year in the storylines. He beat Triple H three times and has been totally dominant the past few months....

[Hunter Rider]

The rankings of every wrestler, I think :confused:

I think it just looks at how every wrestler did the past year and ranks them. For example, Batista had a great year in the storylines. He beat Triple H three times and has been totally dominant the past few months....

I see,i dont know the 2 Japanese guys but im curious as to how HHH and Shelton are there,it's been a bad year for Shelton and HHH has only won one match this year:confused:

[jackcool]

Shelton did have like an eight-month long undefeated streak as IC champion. And I think it's almost mandatory for Triple H to be included in any top ten list :confused: ;) :p

[Hunter Rider]

Shelton did have like an eight-month long undefeated streak as IC champion. And I think it's almost mandatory for Triple H to be included in any top ten list :confused: ;) :p

yeah it was a very underutilized run though:( and yes HHH must ALWAYS be in the top 10....oh well,lets see what RAW brings,i heard HBK and MAsters are gonna be on the cabana

[jackcool]

Yeah, and there's going to be an Edge/Hardy Street-fight, with Edge going over Hardy again :rolleyes: :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, and there's going to be an Edge/Hardy Street-fight, with Edge going over Hardy again :rolleyes: :mad:

I see matt says its a 5 part feud:confused: To be honest i can't see any reason for WWE to push Matt,he is a decent worker but his mic skills are crap and the crowd really arent interested in him now the heat has died down,i think they all got caught up in the sensationalism and now they realise that it's still just Matt Hardy

[jackcool]

At most, he should be in the IC title hunt. And back with his Mattitude 1.0 gimmick. That was probably one of his better gimmicks. But if they actually did his feud with Edge right, both wrestlers would've been elevated instead of just Edge.....

[Hunter Rider]

At most, he should be in the IC title hunt. And back with his Mattitude 1.0 gimmick. That was probably one of his better gimmicks. But if they actually did his feud with Edge right, both wrestlers would've been elevated instead of just Edge.....

I think he definately worked better as an overpowering heel with the V1 gimmick
The thing is Edge has everything to be a number 1 heel and hold the wwe title,Matt is really only ever been a mid card guy

[jackcool]

eh, I'm not really sold on Edge much. He's okay, but I see him a bit like a JBL. Just a wrestler the WWE is too intent on making a main-eventer and continually tries to push him.....

[Hunter Rider]

eh, I'm not really sold on Edge much. He's okay, but I see him a bit like a JBL. Just a wrestler the WWE is too intent on making a main-eventer and continually tries to push him.....

I think he's a much better in ring worked than JBL and i think his mic work is pretty good when he turns it down a few notches,i could see the character he has created doing some buissness if WWE can get a face that can draw

[jackcool]

Yeah, he is better in the ring than JBL, but I don't really like his mic-work. His voice really grates on me. To be honest, I think Christian is more worthy of being in the main event than Edge.....

[Twitch]

eh, I'm not really sold on Edge much. He's okay, but I see him a bit like a JBL. Just a wrestler the WWE is too intent on making a main-eventer and continually tries to push him.....

The problem I have with Edge and makes him a little annoying is that they won't give him the freakin title shot that he won at WM. :down

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, he is better in the ring than JBL, but I don't really like his mic-work. His voice really grates on me. To be honest, I think Christian is more worthy of being in the main event than Edge.....

I agree there,the way WWE have depushed Christian is ridiculous,i mean they tested his cred out in MSG with Vince and the crowd clearly showed he was over enough to be a big player and yet now they have dumped him,i guess it plays into WWE's size is everything policy

[jackcool]

I agree there,the way WWE have depushed Christian is ridiculous,i mean they tested his cred out in MSG with Vince and the crowd clearly showed he was over enough to be a big player and yet now they have dumped him,i guess it plays into WWE's size is everything policy

Yeah, but that's what'll make him a better heel main-eventer. He doesn't look that intimidating, but he still manages to squeak away with a victory everytime. It's why I didn't like Triple H a little while back. He was just absolutely dominating everything and everyone. That's not really what I want to see with a heel. I'd rather see a chicken-**** heel.

Christian would've been perfect for that. And the thing was, he showed mega-improvement in everything the past few years. Talk about wasted potential :down

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but that's what'll make him a better heel main-eventer. He doesn't look that intimidating, but he still manages to squeak away with a victory everytime. It's why I didn't like Triple H a little while back. He was just absolutely dominating everything and everyone. That's not really what I want to see with a heel. I'd rather see a chicken-**** heel.

Christian would've been perfect for that. And the thing was, he showed mega-improvement in everything the past few years. Talk about wasted potential :down

I agree on Christians wasted potential and i think unfortunately WWE have chosen to dump him to mid card obscruity
I personaly agree with Foley on heels though,some cowardly ones are ok but for a big main event i like a heel that can win off his own bat and doesn't back down,the way Angle is playing it now,it makes them more of a threat and more interesting IMO

[jackcool]

I agree on Christians wasted potential and i think unfortunately WWE have chosen to dump him to mid card obscruity
I personaly agree with Foley on heels though,some cowardly ones are ok but for a big main event i like a heel that can win off his own bat and doesn't back down,the way Angle is playing it now,it makes them more of a threat and more interesting IMO

Yeah, that's good as well. I was thinking more of the Triple H heel though. The one that dominates all the time and makes everyone around him weaker than normal. Although I know Trips for the most part isn't like that anymore, but that period shortly after the roster split was pretty damn annoying....

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, that's good as well. I was thinking more of the Triple H heel though. The one that dominates all the time and makes everyone around him weaker than normal. Although I know Trips for the most part isn't like that anymore, but that period shortly after the roster split was pretty damn annoying....

I think that was a time when the WWe was finding their feet with 2 aeperate shoiws and needed a genuine huge star to appear strong
I honestly think Angle is gonna beat Cena at Unforgiven or at the latest Survivor Series,they are pushing him perfectly except having Bischoff involved:(

[jackcool]

You never know, he could win by dubious means. And then that sets up Cena in his quest to regain the title. Starting out with winning the Royal Rumble (which of course he has to start at the number 1 spot) ;)

Or I wouldn't be surprised to see Triple H win back the WWE title. But really, I'd rather see Angle be champion for a while.

[Hunter Rider]

You never know, he could win by dubious means. And then that sets up Cena in his quest to regain the title. Starting out with winning the Royal Rumble (which of course he has to start at the number 1 spot) ;)

Or I wouldn't be surprised to see Triple H win back the WWE title. But really, I'd rather see Angle be champion for a while.

Well a Cena/HH match is unlikely as HH hates Cena and doesn;t want to put him over,im not sure if Angle/Cena can run again at Mania if they have a series over the next few months,i think Cena may wrestle Hogan at WM22:o :confused:

[Donnie Darko]

I agree on Christians wasted potential and i think unfortunately WWE have chosen to dump him to mid card obscruity
I personaly agree with Foley on heels though,some cowardly ones are ok but for a big main event i like a heel that can win off his own bat and doesn't back down,the way Angle is playing it now,it makes them more of a threat and more interesting IMO

I also actually prefer heels that can hold their own. I mean, they may have to cheat from time to time, but I'd prefer they get by on their own merits, which makes them a more credible heel. I mean, that's why I was so pissed they made Orton cheat to beat Holly. They should let him get clean victories over top faces (like he did over Benoit for the title) and build the whole cocky, Legend Killer persona.

ps- Carlito looks like he's finally getting in good shape

[WickerPerson]

I hope cena gets cancer

[Savage]

That Matt and Edge match was actually pretty awesome.:) Really entertaining. Matt got bigger too. Glad he's back. Good stuff here. :up:

[jackcool]

I was all set to be bored by that streetfight. But then the ending made it great. Pretty convincing stuff as well having Bischoff and King/Coach come out to see what's going on.

[White_Howling]

does anyone know who Satoshi Kojima is?

[3dman27]

I hope cena gets cancer
isn't that a bit too much?

[kane9321]

i loved the edge and matt streetfight it was great...but matt patna it takes two to tango...i'm kinda tired of matt going after edge all the time..go after lita man.She did the most damage to you bro,get a move on her ..maybe a "twist of fate",or go after her messed up leg.Carlito,Masters,Cena you three need to go away..just go away...Kudos to my victoria..yeah I love victoria

[TheStrider]

i loved the edge and matt streetfight it was great...but matt patna it takes two to tango...i'm kinda tired of matt going after edge all the time..go after lita man.She did the most damage to you bro,get a move on her ..maybe a "twist of fate",or go after her messed up leg.Carlito,Masters,Cena you three need to go away..just go away...Kudos to my victoria..yeah I love victoriaBah, he should rape her ass, w00t.

[GLfan]

i loved the edge and matt streetfight it was great...but matt patna it takes two to tango...i'm kinda tired of matt going after edge all the time..go after lita man.She did the most damage to you bro,get a move on her ..maybe a "twist of fate",or go after her messed up leg.Carlito,Masters,Cena you three need to go away..just go away...Kudos to my victoria..yeah I love victoria
I agree 100%. Although, I heard that Matt is going to lose the feud and from there get lost in the midcard ranks. WWE seems to lean more on Edge's side for a big push.

[3dman27]

Bah, he should rape her ass, w00t.
come now,thats taking it too far
not even the vilest woman on this earth deserves to be raped NO woman does

[jackcool]

So who "attacked" Ric Flair yesterday? Was it Triple H, setting up a Trips-Flair match? Or was it Shawn? Or could all this be a ruse started by Trips and Flair to set up a new Evolution with them and Masters/Carlito? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

So who "attacked" Ric Flair yesterday? Was it Triple H, setting up a Trips-Flair match? Or was it Shawn? Or could all this be a ruse started by Trips and Flair to set up a new Evolution with them and Masters/Carlito? :confused:

havent seen RAW yet but that last part about a new Evolution may be an interesting way to go BUT im not sure if it wil hamper Carlito
I really doubt it was HBK who attacked him,if it isnt a ruse it will be HHH

[jackcool]

Yeah, but you never know. It could be Shawn trying to set up a match with Ric Flair, similar to what he did with Hogan.

But I'm leaning more towards the Ruse side. I see Flair turning on Shawn soon (which Flair always does whenever a face turn is teased). And a new Evolution forming with Masters and Carlito is interesting, particularly since both guys keep mentioning they're the "new breed"....kind of like what the point of Evolution was in the first place.....

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but you never know. It could be Shawn trying to set up a match with Ric Flair, similar to what he did with Hogan.

But I'm leaning more towards the Ruse side. I see Flair turning on Shawn soon (which Flair always does whenever a face turn is teased). And a new Evolution forming with Masters and Carlito is interesting, particularly since both guys keep mentioning they're the "new breed"....kind of like what the point of Evolution was in the first place.....

I think HBK has had enough of Legend feuds;)
There is supposed to be a HHH/Flair feud on the way but the dynamics are there for a new evolution ,however as i said im not sure it suits Carlito,he is his own character,he doesnt need a group to get over IMO,Also that would probably lead to a HHH/Cena feud:(

[jackcool]

Yeah, but the WWE isn't ;) :D
Yeah, it'll be strange if Carlito does join Evolution, since he has great mic-work and pretty satisfactory mat skills to actually get over himself. I actually think he needs a new bodyguard more than anything. Maybe Tyson Tomko that way he can go the way of Carlito's other bodyguards after a couple of months :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but the WWE isn't ;) :D
Yeah, it'll be strange if Carlito does join Evolution, since he has great mic-work and pretty satisfactory mat skills to actually get over himself. I actually think he needs a new bodyguard more than anything. Maybe Tyson Tomko that way he can go the way of Carlito's other bodyguards after a couple of months :up:

The thing is Flair and HBK have spent to much time there now for the legends feud to really draw,they work best when one of the tow guys has not been around for a while so it feels like "a match you never thought you'd see" and IMO once youve seen it most times you wis you hadn't:p

Is Tomko still employed ? i havent seen him for months:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

edit

[jackcool]

He just showed up on Raw this week. "Knocking out" Rosey with a kick to the stomach. Yes, a kick to the stomach knocked him out. He also gave a big boot to Hurricane. So yeah, Tyson ****ing Tomko knocked out the tag team champions all by himself :rolleyes: :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

He just showed up on Raw this week. "Knocking out" Rosey with a kick to the stomach. Yes, a kick to the stomach knocked him out. He also gave a big boot to Hurricane. So yeah, Tyson ****ing Tomko knocked out the tag team champions all by himself :rolleyes: :mad:

:( i havent seen RAW yet ,oh no!!!:eek: T3h spoilers:p
so is he looking for a partner do you think ?

[jackcool]

An angle on Sunday Night Heat was that REnee Dupree wants a new tag partner and gave Tomko a "try-out" to see if he's worthy of being his partner. Not only does that make one of the worst tag teams around, but why does Tomko need a partner now if his "big boot of power" can take out the tag champions by himself? Ugh, Tomko should just stick to being a bodyguard and that's it.

And at least now that you know about Tomko, you can skip it when it's on ;)

[Hunter Rider]

An angle on Sunday Night Heat was that REnee Dupree wants a new tag partner and gave Tomko a "try-out" to see if he's worthy of being his partner. Not only does that make one of the worst tag teams around, but why does Tomko need a partner now if his "big boot of power" can take out the tag champions by himself? Ugh, Tomko should just stick to being a bodyguard and that's it.

And at least now that you know about Tomko, you can skip it when it's on ;)

oh god,Tomko and Dupree ? the piggy squel duo ? wow the tag team divison's reign of suck continues:(

I will skip it;)

[jackcool]

It really does...and honestly don't know why they don't push the Heartthrobs, who could be a pretty decent tag-team if they weren't continually jobbing to big lugs like Big Show or Viscera :(

At least the Cade/Murdoch tag team does have a bit of potential :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

It really does...and honestly don't know why they don't push the Heartthrobs, who could be a pretty decent tag-team if they weren't continually jobbing to big lugs like Big Show or Viscera :(

At least the Cade/Murdoch tag team does have a bit of potential :confused:

i dont like the lusty way the fat one looks at Cade:( :confused:
It still baffles me as to why Vis is still employed,he has always sucked and now he sucks extra......I also heard the Cena/Angle feud was poorly done last night:(

[jackcool]

Yeah, the fat one looks like the disturbed one of the duo. I think he's still playing that inbred hick character he played so well in the early TNA days....:confused:

Yeah, I didn't really like Cena on the mic last night. He once again went with a gay joke :(

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ



There was a heavily-promoted wrestling convention this past weekend featuring the likes of Bret Hart, Bruno Sammartino, Matt Hardy The Dudley Boyz and more wrestling stars both past and present. Tammy Sytch decided to show up at WrestleReunion 2 to set up a table to sell promo photos, autographs, poloroids, etc... She had also appeared at the NWA Legends convention the previous weekend as an un-announced guest along with Missy Hyatt. Unlike at WrestleReunion, Tammy didn't cause any problems, although she seemed bored.

From several accounts from people who were at WrestleReunion, Tammy Sytch was thrown out of the building crying and screaming by security and warned to never come back again. Apparently, she was bothering several of the wrestlers and acting unusual, mostly notably to Bret Hart.

Here is a detailed fan account of what went down...

Tammy was drunk or high. She was on something and kept asking Bret for his number and asking if they can "re-connect" as friends. She kept mentioning their time in the WWF and said she wanted to get "close" again. When Bret asked that she be escorted out, she began crying and causing a scene saying she had the best pussy he ever had and she needed him in her life because she spent all of the Candido Benefit money and was broke. She needed a sugar daddy to take care of her.

Later in the hotel, she was stumbling around the hotel no and asking for Billy Gunn who wasn't even there. Ask D-Lo Brown, he was there. He can tell you. As a matter of fact, The Masked Maniac should try to get him on the honker for a hotline to confirm this. Tammy has fallen off the wagon and needs help.

And for those keeping score, Tammy's regained a good amount of the weight that she had previously lost earlier this year as she's ballooned quite a bit in the last month or so.

[jackcool]

Yeah, I heard about that. Poor Tammy, it seems like she once again went back to **** after Candido's passing.....

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, the fat one looks like the disturbed one of the duo. I think he's still playing that inbred hick character he played so well in the early TNA days....:confused:

Yeah, I didn't really like Cena on the mic last night. He once again went with a gay joke :(

what was he like as a wrestler in TNA ?

oh so Cena is back to mixing childish and T-shirt slogan promos:(
WWE are turning him into a damn puppet:mad:

[jackcool]

what was he like as a wrestler in TNA ?

oh so Cena is back to mixing childish and T-shirt slogan promos:(
WWE are turning him into a damn puppet:mad:

Pretty damn bad. But this was during TNA's early days, in which they were even worse than WCW Thunder :eek: It could also have to do with the team he was in, The Dupps. Which were just inbred hicks.

I know. If the WWE were smart, they should just let Cena go full-out. Let him say whatever he damn-well wants.


And when did you get that Better TOmorrow avatar? :eek:

[Hunter Rider]

edit

[Hunter Rider]

Pretty damn bad. But this was during TNA's early days, in which they were even worse than WCW Thunder :eek: It could also have to do with the team he was in, The Dupps. Which were just inbred hicks.

I know. If the WWE were smart, they should just let Cena go full-out. Let him say whatever he damn-well wants.


And when did you get that Better TOmorrow avatar? :eek:

worse than Thunder!!!!! i didnt think that was possible:(

The thing with Cena is that they are playing him as a badass but then he opens his mouth and he seems like a company stooge,his early promos were raw and funny and he didn't need dumb catchphrases every other sentence to get over
I also think the transparent attempt to duplicate the Austin/Mcmahon angle is a bad idea,neither are good enough,they should try something fresh

I made the better Tomorrow avvy the other day,and started using it today
great film IMO:up:

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com

Ric Flair will be establishing himself on RAW as a babyface for the next five weeks or so leading into the WWE's return episode to the USA Network on October 3rd when Triple H is slated to return. A match between Flair and Triple H was originally scheduled for SummerSlam, but was later cut when Triple H took some time off to take part in some backstage duties. A match between Flair and Triple H is possible for the Taboo Tuesday PPV on November 1st.

[jackcool]

It was. Honestly, it was horrible, horrible stuff. I'm really glad TNA has improved by leaps and bounds.

That's why Cena was a much better heel. He didn't really have to suck up to the fans to get over. He just did anything that he wanted. That's why I still pray that they turn him heel again.....:(

Yeah, Better Tomorrow is a great film. The sequel was a bit average until the last 15 minutes though.....:o

[Hunter Rider]

It was. Honestly, it was horrible, horrible stuff. I'm really glad TNA has improved by leaps and bounds.

That's why Cena was a much better heel. He didn't really have to suck up to the fans to get over. He just did anything that he wanted. That's why I still pray that they turn him heel again.....:(

Yeah, Better Tomorrow is a great film. The sequel was a bit average until the last 15 minutes though.....:o

Well just goes to show,i didn't think pro wrestling could get worse than thunder:(

I wouldn't mind seeing Cena as a heel but whether they'll do that i dont know,it depends on how he draws but he wasnt the main man on RAW this week and his match at Summerslam was about 3 down
I think if he looked at HBk,Austin and Rock he could see how to cut a cocky say what ya want promo and still be a face

Ive never seen sequel.i heard it has a cool shoot out

[jackcool]

It did. Early TNA episodes had midgets wrestling, a tag-team in flesh-colored outfits called the Johnsons (first-names Richard and Rod), Allen Funt (aka Qwee-wee in WCW) calling himself Miss TNA while wearing a dress and tiara, a 500-pound wrestler called Cheex with his manager called (I kid you not) The Brown-eyed Girl.

Yeah, right now it seems like Shawn is the number one face on Raw. Which is a good thing. :o

The sequel had a lame way of bringing back Chow Yun-Fat. And the plot generally sucked. The last 15 minutes of the movie was great though. Just an insane shoot-out....

[Hunter Rider]

It did. Early TNA episodes had midgets wrestling, a tag-team in flesh-colored outfits called the Johnsons (first-names Richard and Rod), Allen Funt (aka Qwee-wee in WCW) calling himself Miss TNA while wearing a dress and tiara, a 500-pound wrestler called Cheex with his manager called (I kid you not) The Brown-eyed Girl.

Yeah, right now it seems like Shawn is the number one face on Raw. Which is a good thing. :o

The sequel had a lame way of bringing back Chow Yun-Fat. And the plot generally sucked. The last 15 minutes of the movie was great though. Just an insane shoot-out....

a 500 pound wrestler called cheex ? LMAO:D that sounds so bad i would have to watch it if i found some old epsiodes,the names are classic:eek:

I like HBK as the #1 face but im hoping he will use that position to help get over guys like Masters and Carlito,so the main event scene can be fleshed out


Yeah didnt they bring him back by saying it was his twin brother:confused:

[jackcool]

Trust me, after watching just one old episode, you'll never want to watch anymore. It's pretty horrible stuff. And the sets looked extremely cheap back then. It was nothing more than Redneck TV :(

Yeah, that could happen with a Flair swerve :o :)

Yep. His previously unmentioned twin brother. Who has the trenchcoat worn in the first movie...complete with the bullet holes :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Trust me, after watching just one old episode, you'll never want to watch anymore. It's pretty horrible stuff. And the sets looked extremely cheap back then. It was nothing more than Redneck TV :(

Yeah, that could happen with a Flair swerve :o :)

Yep. His previously unmentioned twin brother. Who has the trenchcoat worn in the first movie...complete with the bullet holes :rolleyes:

Maybe i'll just give it a miss then:( sounds like Cell Block H

you mean him swerving Flair or vice versa:confused:

LOL i heard Woo didn't want to make a sequel but he had no choice

[jackcool]

Well if you want to, at least try and find the very first episode of NWA-TNA. It should be interesting....plus they have the Gauntlet for the Gold match in it, which was a battle royal to crown the new NWA champion. 2/3rds of the participants there were all WCW cast-offs :up:

I think Flair swerving MIchaels. It could set up matches with Flair, Masters, and Carlito....

Yeah. I think Woo only really filmed the action sequences and left the "plotting" to Tsui Hark. Which actually explains why the film seemed to uneven....

[Hunter Rider]

Well if you want to, at least try and find the very first episode of NWA-TNA. It should be interesting....plus they have the Gauntlet for the Gold match in it, which was a battle royal to crown the new NWA champion. 2/3rds of the participants there were all WCW cast-offs :up:

I think Flair swerving MIchaels. It could set up matches with Flair, Masters, and Carlito....

Yeah. I think Woo only really filmed the action sequences and left the "plotting" to Tsui Hark. Which actually explains why the film seemed to uneven....

damn now im torn:confused: well i think one episode just to see cheex is needed:D

I think that it would be great if they went that way and RVD and Shelton could back HBK,but where would that leave Cena and Angle the next champ

Woo's action scenes ? i miss those days:(

[jackcool]

Actually, Cheex shows up in the second episode :( And he makes Viscera look like a cruiserweight :(

That could be interesting with RVD. And then later on, Shawn could turn on RVD and set up a feud between the two :up:

Yeah, I kinda do miss the days of his R-rated action :( Has he even done a movie since that POS Paycheck? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Actually, Cheex shows up in the second episode http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif And he makes Viscera look like a cruiserweight http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif

That could be interesting with RVD. And then later on, Shawn could turn on RVD and set up a feud between the two http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Yeah, I kinda do miss the days of his R-rated action http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif Has he even done a movie since that POS Paycheck? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

Cheex ,at 500 pounds im surprised the WWE havent signed himhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/redface1.gif

I think that RVD and Angle might actually be the feud later on and then a "respect" match with HBK,I wonder if they should make Shelton a heel


he hasnt made any nohttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif ........But he has a film called Red Circle and an epic with Fat back in china called The War Of Red Cliff lined up

[jackcool]

Nah, he doesn't have any muscle definitions or any cool back tattoos :o

You know, instead of having Carlito in the new Evolution, they should just put Shelton there. Shelton's a wrestler who could definitely benefit from having a mouthpiece like Flair represent him.

[Hunter Rider]

Nah, he doesn't have any muscle definitions or any cool back tattoos :o

You know, instead of having Carlito in the new Evolution, they should just put Shelton there. Shelton's a wrestler who could definitely benefit from having a mouthpiece like Flair represent him.

agreed:up:
I really dont think Carlito NEEDS Evolution but Shelton could use it the way Orton did,it could put him in feuds with HBk and RVD which would be ideal for him IMO

[jackcool]

Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the WWE really knows what to do with Shelton. Except have him feud with Kerwin White :rolleyes: :(

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the WWE really knows what to do with Shelton. Except have him feud with Kerwin White :rolleyes: :(

:( ugh that Angle moved on this week did it ?
sadly if he was still just Chavo it could be a fun feud with kickass matches