Wrestling

[Go Web Go!]

Blah. I'm not liking the storyline. Kane doesn't need yet another woman to manage him. He doesn't need to start showing a ''human'' side either if the story develops and he ends up having feelings for Lita. I'd like to see someone like Heyman manage him though. He would help get him over the top, which is somewhere that he's never been except for his first year or so in the WWE. :mad:

[Eric Draven]

That's why I'm hoping that eventually Jeff Hardy will show up and end this pointless feud and this whole thing was just to reform "Team Extreme"

[Go Web Go!]

Don't blame the WWE for not bringing Jeff Hardy in. Jeff is the little pothead that's refusing to get help. From what I've read, the WWE is ready for his return. Jeff isn't. :o

[Xclaim]

I don't think that Lita will turn on Matt for Kane just on the grounds that they already did that with the whole Jerecho-Christian-Trish triangle.

Besides, Lita is the most popular woman on Raw right now.

[Go Web Go!]

You have a point, but keep in mind that the WWE is constantly recycling storylines.

[3dman27]

i wonder if lita goes with kane will she rename herself CHRISTINE [like the steven king horror fim and her real name amy CHRISTINE dumas]

[Metamorpho1977]

Personally I'd rather see Lita doing movies for Vivid, but i can settle for a heel run for her.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
You have a point, but keep in mind that the WWE is constantly recycling storylines. that is so true web. its like a constant deja vu. i really hope they dont do the typical lita will come in to "save" matt in a match, and actually turn on him. that is so worn out. i would like it to be a controlling one sided relationship where kane is in charge and lita is his slave.[THE THOUGHT OF SEEING LITA AS A GOTHIC SEX SLAVE IS PROBABLY MY WETTEST DREAM]

[Metamorpho1977]

Finally some GOOD wrestling coming to television. NWA TNA will be airing on Fox Sports Net. Finally another option as to which wrestling program to watch. NWATNA is a better wrestling product in my opinion than the WWE. I think the WWE died when they took the F out.

http://nwatna.com/news/2004/5/14/news.html


05.13.04 | "IMPACT!" TO DEBUT ON FOX SPORTS NET

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling & Fox Sports Net Announce National Weekly Television Program

Program to be filmed in Universal Studios @ Universal Orlando Resort

May 13, 2004 (Nashville, TN) - Total Nonstop Action Wrestling announced Wednesday night on its weekly Pay-Per-View that Fox Sports Net will begin televising Total Nonstop Action Wrestling "Impact!" on Fridays at 3:00 PM local.

"Impact!" will debut on June 4th and will be filmed at Universal Studios @ Universal Orlando Resort. Two-time NWA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Jarrett will appear on Fox Sports Net's "Best Damn Sports Show Period" tonight (Thursday) to talk about this ground breaking television deal.

"The national telecast of "Impact!" on Fox Sports Net marks a milestone for TNA Entertainment and the wrestling industry," Dixie Carter, President of TNA Entertainment, LLC said. "Total Nonstop Action Wrestling has continued to grow and exceed expectations over our history. As we celebrate our 2nd anniversary in June, we are excited this opportunity with Fox Sports Net and Universal Studios Orlando will expose a wider range of viewers to our distinctive brand of professional wrestling."

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling is "The New Wrestling Alternative" and features some of the most well-known names in wrestling today like Jeff Jarrett, Raven, D'Lo Brown, Sting and Konnan along with the industry's hottest new stars such as AJ Styles, Abyss, Chris Harris, James Storm and CBS' Survivor Pearl Islands star Jonny Fairplay. TNA Wrestling separates itself from the competitors by delivering quality family programming that focuses on the athletic in-ring action instead of over the top, shocking antics that have become all too common in the mainstream.

"I am pleased about the entertainment value wrestling can bring to FSN," said George Greenberg, Executive Vice President of Programming and Production, FSN. "I believe 'Impact!' will bolster our Friday afternoon schedule and provide another FSN destination for young viewers."

The debut of "Impact!" marks the first time since March of 2001, when World CHampionship Wrestling's Monday Night Nitro went off the air, that a national television audience will have an option of wrestling programming.

"We are thrilled to have Total Nonstop Action Wrestling's 'Impact!' here at Universal," stated Paul Meena, Vice President and General Manager of the Universal Studios Florida Production Group. "Our 22,000 square foot Sound Stage 21 is the ideal venue for the weekly show as it allows the freedom to create the spectacular set they envision. It also affords our theme park guests the opportunity to be part of the production audience and cheer for their favorite wrestling icons from a 'front row seat'".

The alternative for the true wrestling fan, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling prides itself on delivering quality, family programming that is clean, innovative, cutting edge and with the high-risk, high-flying athleticism that TNA Wrestling is known for.

Fox Sports Net reaches more than 80 million homes through its 20 regional sports channels, and serves as the only supplier of national regional and local sports programming. For the latest up-to-the-minute sports news and opinions, visit www.FoxSports.com.

The Universal Orlando resort destination (www.universalorlando.com) includes two dramatically distinct and adjacent theme parks, the Universal Studios motion picture and television theme park and Island of Adventure, Orlando's next generation theme park.

Universal Orlando also includes CityWalk, a 3-acre dining, shopping, club and live-entertainment venue as well as premier on-site Loews Hotels and world-class film and television production facilities.

[The Ghoul]

this was announced like 2 months ago.

[Metamorpho1977]

yeah, but it's still good news. just as good now as it was two months ago.

[Go Web Go!]

I have the feeling we'll be seeing a Lita heel turn tonight. :o

[The Ghoul]

She just left the arena. So no, not tonight.

[Go Web Go!]

Well, who knows? She should always come back for some reason.

[The Ghoul]

Or no reason at all. Because any reason Lita is in a building is a good reason

[Go Web Go!]

Wow. Victoria officially has the most annoying theme in the WWE. :mad:

[Supergirl]

HELL F**KIN' YEAH HBK vs HHH in a Hell In A Cell match!!!

[Go Web Go!]

Triple H and HBK really need to move on...

[HqaPaz]

TNA is terrible.It's really gone downhill.It was much better last year.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I heard Booker T was coming back with a "Papa Shango" gimmick...you can see the early signs of it with all of his voodoo rituals leading up to his match with The Undertaker.

Booker T really needs at least one WWE title run before he retires it...if Eddie got one, then so should BT.

[Rainbowbrite]

Originally posted by LanternLight
HELL F**KIN' YEAH HBK vs HHH in a Hell In A Cell match!!!

i cant wait one cause i was talking to my sis the other day and we were like when was the last hell in the cell match and then i find out hbk and HHH are in one im really excited about this one i hope this is the end though because i want to rivalaries for the both of them


i hate eugene i think the character is stupid and lame i knew benoit was gonna be his partner last night it was so obvious

i also hate shelton benjamin he just annoys me hes so boring

i would have loved to see the orton edge thing develop but no bring shelton in and ruin everything

the whole trish/jericho thing im done with it its played out move on

john cena,undertaker,ray mysterio need to come to raw i hate smackdown

[Soundwave]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Triple H and HBK really need to move on...

i agree that the storyline is played out but at least they have good violent matches when they hook up.

i'm predicting by the time wrestlemania rolls around next year. Cena and Orton are gonna be the two champions.

[Rainbowbrite]

Originally posted by Soundwave

i'm predicting by the time wrestlemania rolls around next year. Cena and Orton are gonna be the two champions.



i think so too i want the two of them to fight each other that would make good match i personally hate randy orton and its not his abilities or lack of them but my sister she is obsessed with this guy to the point where she tapes every raw and watches it a thousand times i have 100's of things randy said in my own head from her i like john cena i have his dvd where he eats balls with eddie gurrero pretty cool his rhymes are really corny though

[Flame on!]

Originally posted by 0neDisturbedSOB
I heard Booker T was coming back with a "Papa Shango" gimmick...you can see the early signs of it with all of his voodoo rituals leading up to his match with The Undertaker.
Wasn't Papa Shango played by the Godfather?

[dr. loomis]

yeah, papa shango was played by the godfather

[dr. loomis]

maybe booker t will change back into g.i. bro, anyone remember that?! ;)

[dr. loomis]

i think if they obviosly are not gonna give hbk a title run, they should end the hhh hbk feud, and hbk retire, and hhh go to smckdown. they need SOMEBODY over there!!!

[Go Web Go!]

They should just recombine the rosters. How about that? Forget trades. ;)

[dr. loomis]

yeah, that would work too. i think when vince bought wcw, he had so many superstars, he had no idea what to do with it. it can never be "2 different entities" because vince owns it all. the best thing he can do is combine the rosters and make a few more shows through out the week, or really split it, give bichoff his own 3 hour show, and call it MONDAY NITRO!!!!!!

[Soundwave]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
maybe booker t will change back into g.i. bro, anyone remember that?! ;)

I'm trying to wipe it from my memory bank. :(

[Soundwave]

yeah i think it's tme to recombine the rosters again. smackdown needs it more than Raw does. I mean when Bradshaw is main-eventing on the ppv's it's definitely time for a change.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I didn't mean he was going to come back as papa shango, I meant that he would be returning with a gimmick similar to shango's meaning he would be a "witch doctor".

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
maybe booker t will change back into g.i. bro, anyone remember that?! ;)

They need to just bring back the Heat. Harlem Heat.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
yeah, that would work too. i think when vince bought wcw, he had so many superstars, he had no idea what to do with it. it can never be "2 different entities" because vince owns it all. the best thing he can do is combine the rosters and make a few more shows through out the week, or really split it, give bichoff his own 3 hour show, and call it MONDAY NITRO!!!!!!

3 hours? Not many people watch the current show that run 2 hours. Lets worry about getting both rosters back on track before giving either show more airtime. ;)

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by 0neDisturbedSOB
I didn't mean he was going to come back as papa shango, I meant that he would be returning with a gimmick similar to shango's meaning he would be a "witch doctor".

Worst....idea...ever IMO

What so, GI Bro wasn't embarrassing enough for Booker T that they have to make him a witch doctor now...what next? a pimp? :rolleyes:


But you know, after Booker T dropped the GI Bro gimmick, he did get the WCW championship, maybe the same might happen once the witch doctor gimmick crash and burns.

[dr. loomis]

yeah. i liked booker right before he jumped to smackdown. i think he is thinking of retiring soon, so he might not care anywayz.

[Eric Draven]

I liked Booker T even right now, as the cocky heel. I mean, why try and give him a witch doctor gimmick? It's not like he's a boring character right now...

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I think his "spinarooni" is awesome, and I love when he stares at his hand and shakes his head...that always cracks me up, even in the video game.

He needs to have a good run with the title before he retires, he's been around for awhile and I think he's earned it. Just have him kick Eddie's ass and take it for a few months.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I'm pumped for HHH vs. HBK at BB.


I haven't seen a Hell In A Cell Match since Mankind went against The Undertaker.So,it's been quite a while.

That was years ago. It was one of the first-ever Hell in a Cell matches. There have been plenty since. I think there even might have been a few on RAW or SmackDown.

[Happenstance]

Yeah the 1st hell in a cell was HBK vs Undertaker and Kane debuted

[Metamorpho1977]

I want Booker T to go back to Raw before he retires and try to recreate the Best of Seven with Chris Benoit, those were probably the greatest wrestling matches I've ever seen on TV.

[The Ghoul]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I haven't seen a Hell In A Cell Match since Mankind went against The Undertaker.So,it's been quite a while.

There have been 10 hell in a cell matches

Badd Blood in October 1997: Shawn Michaels & Undertaker

King of the Ring in June 1998: Mankind & Undertaker

August 24 1998 Raw: Kane & Mankind

Wrestlemania XV 1999: Undertaker & Big Boss Man

No Way Out in February 2000: HHH & Cactus Jack

Armegeddon 2000: Rikishi, Kurt Angle, HHH, Undertaker, Austin & The Rock

Bad Blood 2003: Kevin Nash & HHH

I know there are more but I can't thinknof the rest (but I know there is 10.) plus it is hard to find a wrestling site with a hell in a cell archive ( not even fan sites have any)... but any way out of all those you only seen the mankind undertaker match. shame on you
:mad:

[Eric Draven]

Wasn't there also that one with Al Snow and Big Boss Man where there was one cage and a hell in a hell around it, and the ringside was surrounded by rabid dogs? :confused:


Oh god, that sounds horrible :(

[SLYspyda]

am i the only tired of this sean michaels and HHH ^_^^_^^_^^_^, it's been going on for like a year now.

[Go Web Go!]

It's been going on for OVER a year. :mad:

[dr. loomis]

the only thing that would get my interest back a little bit in this hhh hbk feud is if since hbk is all about his lord and savior,hhh get all funny satanic on his ass, come out with devil horns on,just for fun. i mean this intense "its personal" thing is worn the hell out.

[SHADOWBAT69]

you get the main story when you're bangin' the bosses daughter. and hhh and hbk are buds, so....

[3dman27]

any idea if we'll see stephanie on tv anytime soon?

[Vapor]

I think Mordecai is Lesnar in disguise... ;)

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Vapor
I think Mordecai is Lesnar in disguise... ;)

Yeah right. Lesnar could actually wrestle. :p

[Vapor]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Yeah right. Lesnar could actually wrestle. :p

But that's just his plan so he doesn't get caught out...

[3dman27]

he doesnt look like brock lesnar to me, he looks too slim

[Go Web Go!]

You can tell SmackDown's in the crapper when the next feud for The Undertaker after Booker T (a pretty good opponent) includes The Dudley Boyz. *Sigh* Whatever. I guess it makes sense seeing how The Undertaker attacked Heyman when he returned back in March.

[3dman27]

ithink i was right about paul heyman using smackdown as as starting point to bringing back ECW he probably plans to use the safe return of paul bearer as leverage to get back the rights to ECW from mr macmahon

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by 3dman27
ithink i was right about paul heyman using smackdown as as starting point to bringing back ECW he probably plans to use the safe return of paul bearer as leverage to get back the rights to ECW from mr macmahon

Probably not. Why would Vince even care about Paul Bearer? It would'nt make much sense. Niether would bringing back ECW at this point in time. I think the WWE should worry about getting SmackDown back on the right track before ever deciding to bring back ECW.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
You can tell SmackDown's in the crapper when the next feud for The Undertaker after Booker T (a pretty good opponent) includes The Dudley Boyz. *Sigh* Whatever. I guess it makes sense seeing how The Undertaker attacked Heyman when he returned back in March.

What can make Smackdown better?


Chavo Classic as US champion ;) :p

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
What can make Smackdown better?


Guess appearances by RAW superstars, maybe? :D

[Eric Draven]

I would actually like to see Cena turn heel. Maybe that could spice up the show :confused:

[dr. loomis]

i think cena should stay face, but they really need to stop d*cking around and give him a title shot/reign.

[The Ghoul]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
I would actually like to see Cena turn heel. Maybe that could spice up the show :confused:

Cena started as heel but he wasn't any different. the only difference now from then is his opponents. it's the Idea that a heel fights a face & vise versa.

[Go Web Go!]

I prefered Cena as a heel. Now he's just...annoying...Plus his ''freestyles'' are horrible now. :mad:

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
Cena started as heel but he wasn't any different. the only difference now from then is his opponents. it's the Idea that a heel fights a face & vise versa.

yeah I know. I should've said turned back maybe ;)


And yeah, I prefered Cena as a heel more. As a heel he had waaay more intensity IMO. He's okay as a face, but I prefer him way more as a heel.

Plus, if he turns, you can actually have a good heel opponent for Guerrero :)

[Go Web Go!]

Yes indeed. There aren't too many heels on SmackDown that can make an impact. That's a given when Bradshaw is getting title shots. They have Booker T, but he's too busy jobbing to The Undertaker. Big Show's out for a few more months and Angle's out of action or who knows how long. The heel's on SmackDown are a joke. They had a chance to improve during the Draft Lottery, but nooo. Oh well.

[Eric Draven]

Booker T could've been an excellent heel for Guerrero if he could've beaten UT in the last PPV. That victory could've given him the clout to proclaim him bigger than Smackdown after "beating the phenom". But noooo, they had to bury him....again :rolleyes:

[Eric Draven]

if Evolution moves to Smackdown though, then what heels would Raw have?


Smackdown doesn't need to have any people from Raw in order to be better IMO. They just have to elevate the right talent.

Or then again, they could bring Steiner back, but with his back problems, that might be rather questionable :o

[Eric Draven]

Rock does make a better heel than face IMO. But the problem is, he's basically out of wrestling now. So the only role he has in the WWE right now is just to show up every few months and just put on a great one night show.


I actually wouldn't mind it if RVD turns heel as well though. Team him up with Heyman and give him a cocky Mr. F'N Thursday Night gimmick and you could also have a pretty good heel.

[Eric Draven]

That's why Heyman would manage him, he could be RVD's mouthpiece. It'll be similar to when Lesner first showed up and Heyman managed him.

[Go Web Go!]

I don't like The Rock much, but he is pretty damn entertaining. I was pretty excited about his heel turn early last year when he returned to feud against Hogan, but it didn't go very well. It didn't last. Next thing I know The Rock turns face before leaving the WWE once again. He's better off as a face in my opinion. He was great as a heel towards the beginning of his career, but now he's just another one of those wrestlers that are going to get a good recption from the fans no matter what. Hogan and The Undertaker also fit into that category, ;)

[Eric Draven]

That also happened with Steve Austin. Remember that heel turn he had prior to and during the invasion? :D

[3dman27]

did anyone see HEAT last night and the main event the nidia-trish duel ?hoo boy mr maCmahon wanted new fueds i think he got the makings of one there

[Go Web Go!]

The women's division doesn't really interest me. I'd rather see them all dolled up instead of wrestling every week.

[Eric Draven]

Speaking of the woman's division, what happened with Jazz? Did she get injured for like the 18193819292th time? :confused:

[Go Web Go!]

Looks like your question was answered earlier, ;)

[SLYspyda]

check out a game trailer for the new GC WWE game.
http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_wwe_dor_e3_2k4.html

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
The women's division doesn't really interest me. I'd rather see them all dolled up instead of wrestling every week. i'm just the opposite i'd rather see them go fist city any day of the week

[Go Web Go!]

I don't mind watching them wrestle, but I'd rather see them waste time half-naked rather than waste time in the ring. And I would rather see any of those previous 2 than Victoria's annoying entrance again. :mad:

[SHADOWBAT69]

Originally posted by SLYspyda
check out a game trailer for the new GC WWE game.
http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_wwe_dor_e3_2k4.html

meh, looks like just another gc wrestling game.after the last two i'd be real hesitant to pick up another. i'm really suspicious that they only show in ring moves.

[SLYspyda]

Originally posted by SHADOWBAT69
meh, looks like just another gc wrestling game.after the last two i'd be real hesitant to pick up another. i'm really suspicious that they only show in ring moves.

what? are you crazy?! X8 looked cartoonish. X9 had more realisic graphics, but this one blows X9 away. most impressive graphics i've seen in a wrestling game.

[SLYspyda]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
I don't mind watching them wrestle, but I'd rather see them waste time half-naked rather than waste time in the ring. And I would rather see any of those previous 2 than Victoria's annoying entrance again. :mad:

victoria's hot and i don't mind her shaking her ass on her way to the ring.

[SLYspyda]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
The women's division doesn't really interest me. I'd rather see them all dolled up instead of wrestling every week.

that's the problem with some guys, instead of cheering the women on when they're wrestling, they're too busy waiting for some in ring bikini contest.

[diamond head]

I used to watch years ago when it was believable but now it has become obviously too fake , it's simply not the same wrestling I used to watch as a kid when it was about hulk Hogan ,the Snucka ,Greg the hammer even macho man .

I thought about becoming a wrestler when I was a kid when I learn it was fake I desist

[3dman27]

Originally posted by SLYspyda
that's the problem with some guys, instead of cheering the women on when they're wrestling, they're too busy waiting for some in ring bikini contest. agreed SLYpyda let the ladies wrestle thats what ther paid to do just like hhh etc

[Rainbowbrite]

Originally posted by SLYspyda
that's the problem with some guys, instead of cheering the women on when they're wrestling, they're too busy waiting for some in ring bikini contest.



as a girl it gets annoying to watch the b&P matches the blonde wrestlers no offense to blondes usually do these type of matches am i the only one who notices this??

i dont like femal wrestling that much only cause it looks really fake and there is no impact when they hit the mat

[SLYspyda]

Originally posted by Rainbowbrite
as a girl it gets annoying to watch the b&P matches the blonde wrestlers no offense to blondes usually do these type of matches am i the only one who notices this??

i dont like femal wrestling that much only cause it looks really fake and there is no impact when they hit the mat

looks really fake? it sounds like your expecting the female version of let's say HHH and michaels going at it in hell in the cell, you can't because they are women and they'll get seriously hurt if they fight like that, so i'll do just fine with their acrobatics, and i just love victoria's finishing move.

[Jason Blood]

anyone else excited about being able to see NWA: TNA for free this friday?

They made a six sided ring!

NWA: TNA seems like WCW all over again in my opinion

[Jason Blood]

If you were a wrestler what would your name be and what would your finishers be?

I'm not quite sure yet...

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
anyone else excited about being able to see NWA: TNA for free this friday?

They made a six sided ring!

NWA: TNA seems like WCW all over again in my opinion



WCW but with better wrestling than WWE. Plus they actually emphasize the wrestling more than the acting.

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
WCW but with better wrestling than WWE. Plus they actually emphasize the wrestling more than the acting.

SWEET!

[Metamorpho1977]

Women wrestlers are there in the WWE for T and A. Watch NWATNA, now there the women actually wrestle.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
anyone else excited about being able to see NWA: TNA for free this friday?

They made a six sided ring!

NWA: TNA seems like WCW all over again in my opinion could you plese clarify thank you

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by 3dman27
could you plese clarify thank you


One way is that they have Mike Tenay announcing, I think the WWE lost a gold mine when they passed on Tenay.

Also they have almost all of the wrestlers that the WWE didn't hire from WCW after buying it.

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
One way is that they have Mike Tenay announcing, I think the WWE lost a gold mine when they passed on Tenay.

Also they have almost all of the wrestlers that the WWE didn't hire from WCW after buying it.


Disco Inferno, Rick Steiner, and Buff Bagwell are on LAW

and some of the others might be in other lower Feds

the LAW roster has some people from NWA:TNA on it (Like Ron Killings)

[Jason Blood]

http://www.nwatna.com/news/2004/6/1/news.html

about that six sided ring

[Metamorpho1977]

now the thing I like about NWATNA is all the indie wrestlers. They're not afraid to let their wrestlers do the daring moves.

[xxTheSlayerxx]

Originally posted by mg_productions
I used to.Until the wwe thing.I kinda fazed out after that.I miss the ol days when wwf used to kick wcw's ass every week.Having the two company's inspired a lot of creativity.When they merged, a lot of that went away.Then the name changed.Not the same for me.
me too

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by SLYspyda
[B]looks really fake? it sounds like your expecting the female version of let's say HHH and michaels going at it in hell in the cell, you can't because they are women and they'll get seriously hurt if they fight like that[B]

Girls in Japan aren't shy towards those kinds of matches.

[spidertwit]

Originally posted by diamond head
I used to watch years ago when it was believable but now it has become obviously too fake , it's simply not the same wrestling I used to watch as a kid when it was about hulk Hogan ,the Snucka ,Greg the hammer even macho man .

I thought about becoming a wrestler when I was a kid when I learn it was fake I desist

Right, that would be the time of wrestling mounties, barbers, sheiks, zombies, soldiers, mystic warriors, a guy who came to the ring with a parrot, a guy who came to the ring with a snake, etc etc ad nauseum. And you complain that nowadays wrestling is too fake?

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
http://www.nwatna.com/news/2004/6/1/news.html

about that six sided ring i' get it now thanks

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
One way is that they have Mike Tenay announcing, I think the WWE lost a gold mine when they passed on Tenay.

Also they have almost all of the wrestlers that the WWE didn't hire from WCW after buying it. tenay is the man, but what happened to tony shavonte?!?! that is THE best combo for an announcing team. god love the king and j.r., but they never say ANYTHING that is remotely funny or interesting anymore. don west was funny on shop at home at 3am when i was under the influence, but it just isnt the same when he is doing wrestling.

[SLYspyda]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
tenay is the man, but what happened to tony shavonte?!?! that is THE best combo for an announcing team. god love the king and j.r., but they never say ANYTHING that is remotely funny or interesting anymore. don west was funny on shop at home at 3am when i was under the influence, but it just isnt the same when he is doing wrestling.

it's true, i prefer Tazz and Cole anyday of the week, or even coach and i forgot the other guy's name

[dr. loomis]

i cant believe the next smacdown ppv is called great american bash!! i thought smackdown was reminding me of something.........thursday night thunder!!!!

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I hate this stupid roster split...Smackdown is getting buried. They should just end it and give fans what they want, not these BS "lottery draft". I want to see John Cena VS Kane, or Edge VS Eddie...give me something like that!

[3dman27]

Originally posted by 0neDisturbedSOB
I hate this stupid roster split...Smackdown is getting buried. They should just end it and give fans what they want, not these BS "lottery draft". I want to see John Cena VS Kane, or Edge VS Eddie...give me something like that! maybe you WILL SEE CENA VS KANE now that "MR ANGLE" has stripped cena of the us championship he may fire cena and raw will snap him uplike scooby doo would a scooby snack

[3dman27]

it looks like my theory last week about paul bearers kidnapping being part of a paul heyman plot to revive ECW is bearing fruit .i just read thatbon last nights smackdown taker was told that if he wanted pb back he'd have to join up withe the dudleys and heyman anyone think he'll do it?

[SLYspyda]

Originally posted by 0neDisturbedSOB
I hate this stupid roster split...Smackdown is getting buried. They should just end it and give fans what they want, not these BS "lottery draft". I want to see John Cena VS Kane, or Edge VS Eddie...give me something like that!

well, i wouldn't say getting buried, it even had a spike in ratings two thursdays ago

[Rainbowbrite]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Al Snow.


And I can't stand King. He's a horny,puppy-loving announcer.He gets so annoying.And JR's stupid metaphors don't help either.


i love jr and the king only because they are hysterical to watch especially jr he gets so mad so easy


but i like tazz cause hes from brooklyn different part then me but still brooklyn

[Happenstance]

Ive stopped watching wrestling over this last year, its just been going downhill for me. I enjoyed the attitude era and the mcmahon helmsley era

[Go Web Go!]

I haven't watched SmackDown in 3 weeks. Did I miss anything special last night?

[Jason Blood]

I saw TNA Impact! today and it was some of the best wrestling I have seen in years!

[Go Web Go!]

Interesting. Lets see if they handle the situation correctly. Anyway, I just read that The Rock is going to be on the June 22 edition of RAW since it's going to be in his hometown, which also happens to be my hometown (Miami) Oooh yeeeah!

[The Ghoul]

that's cool I guess. I'm goin to that episode I can't wait this will be my first Raw taping.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
that's cool I guess. I'm goin to that episode I can't wait this will be my first Raw taping.

I would go, but I'm not really into any of the RAW superstars, even though it is the better of the 2 shows. I would go to a SmackDown event to see The Undertaker, but RAW, I'd rather watch at home. Hopefully SmackDown will come down here before his career is over. If that's the case it'll probably happen at the Office Depot Center. ;)

[Vapor]

Random post here but a mate, who went to one of the RAW house shows here in England on their latest tour told me that it was pretty average but Edge got booed and Triple H, Ric Flair, Eugene + Regal got cheered...

I dunno why but I thought I'd just add that/you might like to know...

[Keyser Soze]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
I saw TNA Impact! today and it was some of the best wrestling I have seen in years!

Glad you enjoyed TNA. I hope this new TV deal TNA has got helps to draw in more new fans. You should get the weekly PPVs as well.

I really hope TNA is able to be solid competition for WWE one day. To do that, they have to put more focus on their X-Division. This cruiserweight division has some of the best wrestlers in the world, but for too long it has been considered a secondary division to the World Title division. But now, TNA are finally doing what I've wanted to see happen for a long time, and are making the X-Division just as big a deal as the World Title Division, even putting their most popular worker, AJ Styles, back in the X-Division to give it more credibility.

Ideally, I'd like to see the NWA Division and thre X Division as two rosters working side by side. Being in the X-Division shouldn't automatically make you midcard. I think the X Champion and the top contenders to that title should be considered main eventers just as much as the NWA champion and those gunning for that title.

For example, push "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels as a big time heel, as big in the company as Jeff Jarrett, but make Daniels be after the X-Title instead of the NWA Title. A feud between AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels could produce match of the year quality matches.

Wiht more focus on the X-Division, TNA will quickly gain a reputation for being the alternative to WWE that has higher quality matches.

[freezeface]

I just saw "Impact!" as well. I can't really comment on it, though, because that's the very first time I saw a TNA show. But it's just refreshing to have another cable wrestling show around after a three year monopoly. Who knows, maybe this could be the start of another Monday Night War, or at the very least, good competition.

[Keyser Soze]

Oh good, another new fan! I've followed TNA from the beginning, and I'm glad now more people are watching it.

From the first show, what wrestler impressed you most?

[Metamorpho1977]

I've been watching since the first episode on the PPV. I've always liked AJ Styles. Sure he's turned into a punk lately, but he's always been a dynamite wrestler. I also think he was smart to have turned down the WWE contract offer.

[Rainbowbrite]

smack down sucks the only good ppl on it are cena mysterio and taker isnt the rock suppose to be on smackdown but now hes on raw smack down was his show


i miss doink the clown

[3dman27]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I don't know much about TNA,but what happened to Sting? i think he retired after becoming a born again christian if i understand correctly

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by 3dman27
i think he retired after becoming a born again christian if i understand correctly

He was part of NWA-TNA for a while. Last I heard he's in negotiations with WWE.

[Metamorpho1977]

I'd like to Sting wrestling again, but I don't want to see Lex Lugar on WWE again. I'm sorry, i can't forgive the guy that killed Miss. Elizabeth.

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Heh. And I thought he said he won't work for Vince.:p

guess his WCW money is running out.

[Go Web Go!]

A bunch of people have said they would never work for Vince, so hearing about Sting talking to the WWE doesn't surprise me.

[Eric Draven]

Yep. It was said a decade ago that Hogan would never work for the WWF/E again, and look what happened there. Heck, there are even persistent rumors that Bret Hart might make a return to the WWE, so never say never in this business.

[Rainbowbrite]

stin comin to wwe would bring some variety ack to the show so its not the same 3 ppl fighting each other every week what happen to that kane nd lita thing fter kane won his title sot that storyline just ended thats what they should do with jericho and trish cause im tired of it

[Go Web Go!]

They'll probably stick him on RAW like they have with every ''big name'' superstar that has debuted with the WWE recently (Goldberg, Steiner, etc.)

[OtepApe]

I think they will stick him on Raw. They always do that, like Raw is the most important brand and Smackdown is minor league.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I hope he's not on Raw.Smackdown is in need of good talent.This JBL/Eddie feud is starting to become the next HBK/HHH feud.And Taker is gone too much and he's only one man.

Atleast the Triple H/Michaels feud is entertaining.

[Eric Draven]

What, you mean JBL giving the nazi salute in the Germany house show isn't entertaining? ;) :p

[Go Web Go!]

Na, but hearing about him getting fired from CNBC is. Muahaha! :o

[Go Web Go!]

SmackDown results are in: CRAP! As usual...

Scotty2Hotty jobs to Kenzo Suzuki, Paul London jobs to Mordecai, Angle announces a Fatal 4 Way between Cena, Dupree, Van Dam, and Booker T, and to end the show The Undertaker apparently joins Heyman and the Dudley Boys :rolleyes:

[3dman27]

a few pages ago a poster asked what kind of wrestling persona we'd like to have .mine would be a martial artist action hero type./ [think of the hurricane and rvd as the same person and you get the idea] my best move would be an axe kick i think.

[GLfan]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
SmackDown results are in: CRAP! As usual...

Scotty2Hotty jobs to Kenzo Suzuki, Paul London jobs to Mordecai, Angle announces a Fatal 4 Way between Cena, Dupree, Van Dam, and Booker T, and to end the show The Undertaker apparently joins Heyman and the Dudley Boys :rolleyes: Thanks, now i can watch something else the show is getting boring.I think Taker is doing it to trick Heyman, once Paul is free Taker will turn on the Dudley's and get revenge.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
God,why'd Taker join?WHY? ti oprotect paul bearer and the power of the urn i'd say

[Eric Draven]

You know, I actually like the direction UT is taking....

[SHADOWBAT69]

sting has always been my favorite. if he goes to the wwe i might actually start watching again.

[Go Web Go!]

I don't think it'll last too long, but then again, maybe this can be a way to get a major heel on SmackDown without having to fully turn The Undertaker heel.

[Eric Draven]

I don't think it'll last longer. I think he has the Steven Austin syndrome where fans will still cheer for him even though he's a heel. But the show does desparately need a heel, and it sounds like UT could fill that spot for the time being.

Besides, I'm praying for a huge JBL depush now :p

[freezeface]

Originally posted by Keyser Kingpin
Oh good, another new fan! I've followed TNA from the beginning, and I'm glad now more people are watching it.

From the first show, what wrestler impressed you most?


In the opening match, one of the wrestlers did what looked like a flipping piledriver (It was done so fast, I had to rewind my tape several times just to see who was hurting who). When I find out who that is, he'll become my second favorite wrestler---after Diamond Dallas Page. Finishers have always drawn me to a wrestler.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by OtepApe
I think they will stick him on Raw. They always do that, like Raw is the most important brand and Smackdown is minor league. well raw is the older of the shows maybe the wwe considers it to have seniority

[zer00]

started to watch raw again but have sorta stoped watching smackdown it just kinda sucks now. and I waould watch it more often if it wasn't for that damn roster split which I whish they would get rid of and I'm growing tired of the hbk/hhh thing I mean its been what over a year! and I really miss the old kane. at least the divas are still good looking.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by 3dman27
well raw is the older of the shows maybe the wwe considers it to have seniority

I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think people look at RAW as the superior show is because it's live. SmackDown is taped and because of that people can read the results and if they don't like what they read they don't bother watching.

[Jason Blood]

Scotty 2 Hotty is now Smackdown's official jobber

[Go Web Go!]

He's been SmackDown's official jobber. I'm surprised he's not splitting time with Spike Dudley.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think people look at RAW as the superior show is because it's live. SmackDown is taped and because of that people can read the results and if they don't like what they read they don't bother watching. you may have a point i tape smackdown on thurs and if after reading the smackdown results if theres nothing i like i reuse the tape

[3dman27]

any predictions on tonights bad blood? btw wasn't bad blood originally the title for a nwo ppv?

[Go Web Go!]

I don't care about the show enough to start making predictions, but I don't think Bad Blood was an NWO ppv. I'm pretty sure it's an old WWF ppv name which they sometimes used as a tagline to their "In Your House" events. ;)

[Eric Draven]

Yep, the only WCW PPV name that's being used this month is Great American Bash, which is the Smackdown PPV.


And yeah, I don't really care about the PPV either, there's really not much of interest, besides the hell in the cell match. Everything else just seems to have predictable outcomes.

[Jason Blood]

uhh

I've been in and out of wrestling alot but I've got one question

Did Brock Lesnar ever go one on one against HHH?

[Go Web Go!]

I don't recall Lesnar ever feuding with Triple H, no.

[Go Web Go!]

Bad Blood results (so far):

Benoit and Edge def. La Resistance via DQ (Kane interfered)
Chris Jericho def. Tyson Tomko

I'll update the results every 1/2 hour or so. :D

[Go Web Go!]

Trish Stratus pins Lita to win the Women's title
Randy Orton def. Shelton Benjamin to retain Intercontinental title

[Go Web Go!]

Eugene def. Coach
Heavyweight title match: Benoit def. Kane

[Go Web Go!]

And for the grand finale: Triple H def. Shawn Michaels

There's your show, ;)

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
And for the grand finale: Triple H def. Shawn Michaels

There's your show, ;) thanks gwg

[Go Web Go!]

Anytime, ;)

Lets see what happens tonight on RAW because from what I hear HBK is going to be taking some time off. We'll probably see the early stages of yet another Benoit/Triple H feud. :mad:

[3dman27]

i'll have to read the results since i'm housesitting at my sisters and cant program her vcr

[The Ghoul]

It's Kane's Baby. There is going to be little red machines running around the house.

[Go Web Go!]

Gee, I wonder where this storyline is going :rolleyes:

[dr. loomis]

oh boy, dare i say, another "whos baby is it" storyline?!?!?! please god!!!

[Go Web Go!]

Correct you are...Lets see what body part ends up popping out of Lita. Lets see, we had a hand last time so I'm guessing maybe a foot?

[GLfan]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
oh boy, dare i say, another "whos baby is it" storyline?!?!?! please god!!! This crappy storyline is being done waaaayy too much. First One Tree Hill, next The O.C. then, Everwood, and now wrestling.:rolleyes: When will it all end.

[3dman27]

excuse my asking but is this just a STORYLINE or is a real life pregnancy being written ito the scripts?gwg can you help here?

[3dman27]

lets not" tire" out this gag just yet gang

[OtepApe]

It'll probably end up being Kanes and the Lita turns heel.

[Metamorpho1977]

I just hope the preggo bit isn't as gross as May's pregnancy.

[OtepApe]

Yeah that would extremely disgusting. Too be honest though, did we ever think an 80 year old giving birth would be anything but disgusting.

[Eric Draven]

If Lita were pregnant, wouldn't her wrestling last night and taking bumps cause a miscarriage? :confused:

[Archangel]

Just when I thought the god of terrible wrestling angle's had left Kane alone.....

:(

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by 3dman27
excuse my asking but is this just a STORYLINE or is a real life pregnancy being written ito the scripts?gwg can you help here?

It's a storyline, ;)

I don't understand why they have Kane involved in so many storylines at once. We have his situation with Lita and the ''pregnancy'', him out to be #1 contender, and his angle with HBK (I know he'll be gone from the company for a few months, but still...) Guaranteed none of these storylines are going to get him in the big picture. After watching the WWE for so many years, I think that's a no-brainer. :(

[JINoside]

Originally posted by freezeface
In the opening match, one of the wrestlers did what looked like a flipping piledriver (It was done so fast, I had to rewind my tape several times just to see who was hurting who). When I find out who that is, he'll become my second favorite wrestler---after Diamond Dallas Page. Finishers have always drawn me to a wrestler.

Woow:D

I came to this thread specificaly to talk about that same move:D. For the first time today i saw TNA and i have to say that i was Extremly satisfied. I enjoyed watching it alot even though its only for an hour. There was barely Any talk at all and the wrestling is much more hardcore and not watered down like WWE. Wrestlers aren't restricted to do moves. Its not that bad at all and i will continue to watch it. The show has a new fan:). Hopefully, in a year or two they will get a bigger and better TV deal and extend its time. I'm willing to bet that it will provide WWE with some Competion:p......

That move BTW is one of the sickest moves i've EVER seen in all the time i've been watching Wrestling. The guy flips over and falls with the opponent in Piledriver position. A move like that just literally seems.......Impossible. Its called the Canadian Destroyer and a guy from the Canadian team does it. I like Joey Styles finisher to. I'm glad he never went to the WWE because he would've been Watered down like all the others. Good stuff!......

[zer00]

haven't they screwed kane up enough.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by zer00
haven't they screwed kane up enough.

Apparently not

[zer00]

I miss the old kane. most notably right after he started talking.

and when him and taker were tag partners.

[Go Web Go!]

Even then Kane was being held down. The only reason he was in the spotlight was because of his ''brother.'' The Kane I miss is the Kane that tore the door off the Hell in a Cell and attacked people during the middle of their matches. I wish Paul Bearer manages him one more time before calling it quits.

Speaking of Paul Bearer: It's going to be announced on SmackDown that The Undertaker will take on The Dudley Boyz in a Handicap match at the Great American Bash. Bearer is going to be locked in a ''crypt'' and if The Undertaker loses the crypt will be filled with cement. Interesting...

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
If Lita were pregnant, wouldn't her wrestling last night and taking bumps cause a miscarriage? :confused: yes eric i would think so so in that case it IS just a storyline since i was thinking wouldn't a lady wrestler have a NO PREGNANCY CLAUSE in her contract and bischoff would try to fire her for BREACH OF CONTRACT

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by JINoside
Woow:D

I came to this thread specificaly to talk about that same move:D. For the first time today i saw TNA and i have to say that i was Extremly satisfied. I enjoyed watching it alot even though its only for an hour. There was barely Any talk at all and the wrestling is much more hardcore and not watered down like WWE. Wrestlers aren't restricted to do moves. Its not that bad at all and i will continue to watch it. The show has a new fan:). Hopefully, in a year or two they will get a bigger and better TV deal and extend its time. I'm willing to bet that it will provide WWE with some Competion:p......

That move BTW is one of the sickest moves i've EVER seen in all the time i've been watching Wrestling. The guy flips over and falls with the opponent in Piledriver position. A move like that just literally seems.......Impossible. Its called the Canadian Destroyer and a guy from the Canadian team does it. I like Joey Styles finisher to. I'm glad he never went to the WWE because he would've been Watered down like all the others. Good stuff!......

You should watch their weekly pay per view. It's 10 dollars for 2 hours which equals 40 dollars for 8 hours of wrestling when you consider a WWE pay per view is 40 dollars for 2 and a half hours of wrestling. Plus there's a better quality of wrestling. And they have been around for 2 years coming June 23. AJ Styles has to be one of the smartest wrestlers on the show. He turned down the WWE's offer. They were going to guarantee him a title run and all, but he turned them down. I think that if the WWE doesn't start paying attention to what is making TNA work, they're going to be hurting.

[Soundwave]

One of the things that really bothers me about the WWE is how they use some of their big men. Take Kane, for instance. They make him out to be this monster whose rage cannot be stopped but yet when they put him in the ring against a legit opponent(Undertaker, Benoit) he never gets that big victory that will put him over the top. It's hard to take him seriously as a monster if he never beats anyone of significance.

Another example is Tyson Tomko. They bring him in to be the "problem solver" fro Christian against Jericho. He starts out with these brutal attacks on Jericho that make him look like a "badass". But when they put him in the PPV he gets pinned by Jericho and now whatever heat he has is gone. And to top it off, he loses a tag match on Raw(even though he wasn't pinned). Why go through all the trouble of promoting him as a badass when you instantly kill any of his heat in his first big match. I would have preferred to let Jericho win by DQ. Let Tyson go crazy and attack him with a chair or something to that effect. This way Jericho gets the victory and Tomko still has his heat. Tey have effectively killed this character before he even developed.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Soundwave
One of the things that really bothers me about the WWE is how they use some of their big men. Take Kane, for instance. They make him out to be this monster whose rage cannot be stopped but yet when they put him in the ring against a legit opponent(Undertaker, Benoit) he never gets that big victory that will put him over the top. It's hard to take him seriously as a monster if he never beats anyone of significance.

Another example is Tyson Tomko. They bring him in to be the "problem solver" fro Christian against Jericho. He starts out with these brutal attacks on Jericho that make him look like a "badass". But when they put him in the PPV he gets pinned by Jericho and now whatever heat he has is gone. And to top it off, he loses a tag match on Raw(even though he wasn't pinned). Why go through all the trouble of promoting him as a badass when you instantly kill any of his heat in his first big match. I would have preferred to let Jericho win by DQ. Let Tyson go crazy and attack him with a chair or something to that effect. This way Jericho gets the victory and Tomko still has his heat. Tey have effectively killed this character before he even developed.

I agree with what you're saying about Kane, but I can't say the same about your views on Tomko. It's still VERY early on in the guys career. They have plenty of time to develop his character. They're not going to push him this early on unless they believe he's something special, and apparently they don't think so.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by 3dman27
yes eric i would think so so in that case it IS just a storyline since i was thinking wouldn't a lady wrestler have a NO PREGNANCY CLAUSE in her contract and bischoff would try to fire her for BREACH OF CONTRACT

Actually, I wouldn't mind if they did that. It actually sounds more original than what I expect them to do :p

[zer00]

sounds like they're not doing anything constructive with taker.

[Go Web Go!]

I would'nt say that seeing how he's been on tv on a weekly basis for the first time in a long time.

[GLfan]

Udated News On Chavo Sr. Classic **SD SPOILER BELOW**


WARNING: The following article contains a spoiler for a match on last night's Smackdown! taping. Read at your own risk!

As we reported, After missing both house shows this past weekend without calling WWE management, Chavo "Classic" Guerrero Sr. was released from WWE when he arrived at the Smackdown taping in Chicago yesterday. From what we've heard, he didn't even try to make any excuses or explain to management why he missed the shows, so accepted the firing. At last night's Smackdown! tapings he did infact drop the Cruiserweight Title to Rey Mysterio Jr.

The reasons for his no-shows at the two house shows are not yet known. However, according to PWInsider.Com the reasons wern't "good" or acceptable. The reactions of people involved with the company regarding his firing was of surprise since Guerrero Sr. had basically lucked into a great position with the company and people were shocked that he would take it for granted the way that he did.

[3dman27]

too bad about chavo classic it looks like he made the classic mistake of taking his job security for granted

[Go Web Go!]

I don't care about Classic getting the boot. He has no business on tv. He's just one of the many reasons SmackDown is struggling right now.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
I don't care about Classic getting the boot. He has no business on tv. He's just one of the many reasons SmackDown is struggling right now.

I kinda liked Chavo Classic to be honest. I thought that he did pretty well as a comedy act. And let's face it, that's what he was. Him being the cruiserweight champion was actually one of the reasons why I tuned into Smackdown more often.


Yeah, that's kinda sad, but I got a kick out of it :(



Plus, he had Eddie's theme music from WCW, and anybody that has that kickass theme is ok for me. Heck, I would even like Randy Orton if he had that theme music :o

[GLfan]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Yep.'Taker's got the Austin thing alright.I didn't hear a single boo when he attacked RVD and Cena. Me either :D


THE EUGENE CHARACTER STOLEN!!!:eek:



Eugene Character Stolen From Comedy Star; Details Inside
Story By: Niel Stephens
June 17, 2004

The following was a press release sent to and taken directly from PWTorch.com:

"I have some interesting facts that you might be interested in. My name is Alex Lourido and for the last ten years my partner, David Francella, and I have been creating a show called, "The Psychotic Neurotics Comedy Show," which is shot and produced in Philadelphia.

Our most popular character on the show is Eugene, the mentally challenged actor who is played by me! The similarities between our Eugene and Nick Dinsmore's Eugene, are daunting, and it even gets better.

Back in December, Dave and I spoke with Todd Resnick, an Executive Producer from Spike TV, and pitched our show to him. He was interested in learning more so we sent him a show that showcased Eugene as our strongest character! (Do you see where we're going with this!) Mr. Resnick then contacts us personally, and via mail, to tell us that they have decided not to run with "it," but they really liked our ideas and we have an open door policy with them to pitch further show concepts!

Shortly after this, I'm talking maybe a month or so later, Nick Dinsmore reveals his Eugene character on Spike's "Raw," one of the highest-rated shows on cable TV!

We have spoken to our attorney and he is in the process of developing a case. This is a huge story, and when people see our Eugene Character that was developed 10 years ago, and is still very popular on our show, they will immediately reach the conclusion that Nick Dinsmore stole the character.

As a matter of fact, the entire story line that "Raw" is developing with the Eugene Character has been stolen from one of our shows. Dave and I can tell you exactly where their story line is going and what is going to happen, because they didn't even have the decency to change it a little!"

[Go Web Go!]

Blah. I could care less about the Eugene character. People are going to get sick and tired of him in no time. Gimmicks like these just don't last.

[zer00]

I'm tired of him already.

just as I got tired of that one leged guy.

[3dman27]

i hope this matter is swiftly resolved

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by zer00
I'm tired of him already.

just as I got tired of that one leged guy.

And Zach Gowen got released very shortly after his big push. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we see Eugene wrestling on Heat after Triple H humiliates him on Raw.

[3dman27]

i've read a lot ot opinions about tna wrestling in this thread tonight since friday night fights may be delayed by baseball overruns i'll give them a try i'll let you know what i think of them tomorrow

[masteryoda]

Hey, I just picked up the Wrestlemania 20 dvd and it was an awesome event. I really think it is the best Mania yet. The finish to the Guerro/ Angle match was pure genius. :up: Did anyone else here pick up the dvd? I can't access the ten greatest mania matches feature. I even exchanged the dvd but couldn't access it on that one either. Anyone else have this same problem?

[masteryoda]

It's a toss up between the Angle match and the three way for the title. I'm a huge HBK mark and I love Beniot. That was a really well crafted match and the ending with Beniot in tears was just perfect. And I got a real perverse pleasure out of the Goldberg/Lesnar match just because of how the crowd booed them both out of the building. That was a lot of fun to watch. :D

[3dman27]

Originally posted by 3dman27
i've read a lot ot opinions about tna wrestling in this thread tonight since friday night fights may be delayed by baseball overruns i'll give them a try i'll let you know what i think of them tomorrow i taped it friday night and watched it saturday morning along with iwa wrestling and maximum pro wrestlingand i must say tna was the supierior of the three shows

[Metamorpho1977]

The thing I like about TNA is that they are open to wrestlers from other companies. Some of the mexican wrestlers are from the IWA.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by masteryoda
It's a toss up between the Angle match and the three way for the title. I'm a huge HBK mark and I love Beniot. That was a really well crafted match and the ending with Beniot in tears was just perfect. And I got a real perverse pleasure out of the Goldberg/Lesnar match just because of how the crowd booed them both out of the building. That was a lot of fun to watch. :D

You mean they didn't edit out the crowd response for that match on the dvd? :confused:

[The Ghoul]

Originally posted by 3dman27
i taped it friday night and watched it saturday morning along with iwa wrestling and maximum pro wrestlingand i must say tna was the supierior of the three shows

I love MXPW. To me that feels like a more tangible wrestling promition. (as in you can really believe in, sorta like ECW where fans respected the compony more than the talent.) I love TNA's X-Division, but the talent at MXPW are also some of my favorites such as Chaz (Headbanger Mosh), New Jack, Dennis Knight (Mideon), The Vampire Worrior (Gangrel).

[zer00]

Well wasn't raw ....interesting tonight.

The only good part was the start off with rock.

[Go Web Go!]

Yeah. The Rock segment at the beginning was entertaining. I'm surprised he didn't show up during the main event.

[Eric Draven]

The Rock is always entertaining though. The WWE is really missing him as a fulltime wrestler...

[GLfan]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
I love TNA's X-Division, but the talent at MXPW are also some of my favorites such as Chaz (Headbanger Mosh), New Jack, Dennis Knight (Mideon), The Vampire Worrior (Gangrel). I just ordered TNA's PPV and it was pretty good, I was pleasantly surprised and I'm enjoying it better than WWE. No drama, just good ole fashion wrestling like in the old days. I'm going to order it again this Wednesday, the ladies are also tougher than WWE's, they're going to have a ladies stretcher match this week. Destinee vs. Desire can't wait to see it. A. J. Styles is the best I've seen yet, he can fly through the air.

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Blah. I could care less about the Eugene character. People are going to get sick and tired of him in no time. Gimmicks like these just don't last.

they may not last, but don't expect them to go anywhere soon. The WWE was built on these lame gimmicks.

[OtepApe]

So, Kane may indeed be the daddy of Litas baby. Well we certainly didn't see that one coming did we! Kane is just a magnet for bad angles, ah well it's not exactly like I like so.

[Metamorpho1977]

Does Kane remind anyone else of Shrek lately?

[Soundwave]

Since there was no official winner last night, it leads me to believe there will be a 3-way or 4-way dance for the title(Triple H,Benoit,Eugene,Kane).

[OtepApe]

I know Eugene may be a fiun gimmick at the moment and some people may really like him, but there is no way in hell that guy should be anywhere near being in the title chase. That's totally ridiculous. David Arquette all over again.

[zer00]

Eugene is saddly just going to end up with the belt.

[Metamorpho1977]

i think so too.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by OtepApe
I know Eugene may be a fiun gimmick at the moment and some people may really like him, but there is no way in hell that guy should be anywhere near being in the title chase. That's totally ridiculous. David Arquette all over again. ya know, i had that arquette thing deep in my memory banks,and now you made me remember it again!!! you are right though,even though eugene is undefeated,and raw ended up the way it did,a title match would be a little much;even for wwe.well,bichoff is gm,so as you know from the wcw days,ANYTHING absurd is possiable.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Yeah.And once he really loses to HHH,infact,once he loses for the first time,expect to see Eugene on HEAT. definately right. look what happened to zach gowen. even though the eugene gimmick is entertaining,the only way i think he could stay on raw is to get hit in the head so hard that he becomes straight and intelligent,and starts talking like regal or something.:bomb:

[OtepApe]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
definately right. look what happened to zach gowen. even though the eugene gimmick is entertaining,the only way i think he could stay on raw is to get hit in the head so hard that he becomes straight and intelligent,and starts talking like regal or something.:bomb:

A future storyline perhaps???

[Metamorpho1977]

here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna keep the "Triple H is your Friend" angle going with Eugene and next week's Raw they're going to cut the previous week's recap just to show Benoit hitting Eugene and Triple H "coming to the rescue"

[Savage]

Originally posted by OtepApe
So, Kane may indeed be the daddy of Litas baby. Well we certainly didn't see that one coming did we! Kane is just a magnet for bad angles, ah well it's not exactly like I like so. Yeah but he's my favorite character now. It's great to see him as a complete ******* than a lovable Frankenstein. For the first time in his life he's happy. :D

Plus he reminds me a bit of the fellah in my avatar.:D

[OtepApe]

I do prefer savage Kane but this angle is just dumb. If anyone in the Uk watches eastenders, it's kinda like a stoyyline going on in that.

Imagine if the baby came out bald and ugly. Oh wait,they all do.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
definately right. look what happened to zach gowen. even though the eugene gimmick is entertaining,the only way i think he could stay on raw is to get hit in the head so hard that he becomes straight and intelligent,and starts talking like regal or something.:bomb:

Or one day he could just break character and say that he always thought the Eugene gimmick sucks and that the fans suck or something like that.


Then, you could still have some heat on Dinsmore because fans could keep chanting "Eugene" to piss him off.

[Go Web Go!]

I hope they push Regal. I always liked him. Especially when he was beating someone down in the ring (usually with the brass knuckles) and paused to wave to the fans. That was great. :D

[Eric Draven]

Well I imagine that Regal might be wrestling in the main event for a little while against Evolution.


I dunno if that's a good thing or a bad thing though :confused:

[The Ghoul]

I was at Raw last night & the crowd reacted to what lita said to matt in the back & I totally missed what she said so if someone could tell me that would be super... Also during victoria's match who came out in drag to save her I think it's steven richards but I couldn't tell.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
I was at Raw last night & the crowd reacted to what lita said to matt in the back & I totally missed what she said so if someone could tell me that would be super... Also during victoria's match who came out in drag to save her I think it's steven richards but I couldn't tell.

She said that she slept with Kane to protect Matt and that she did it before she and Matt got back together. As for the dragqueen that came out and pulled Victoria out of the ring, I'm not too sure who it was. JR and The King acted as if they didn't know who it was and we didn't get a good look at who it was on tv, but it did kinda look like Stevie Richards.

[Metamorpho1977]

The sad thing about the Triple H and Eugene match is that during the first 5 minutes of the match was the most actual wrestling that Triple H has done in the past 5 years.

[GLfan]

Backstage News On Paul Bearer, HBK/Kane @ Summerslam?; More
Story By: Niel Stephens
June 22, 2004

Reasons behind the recent angle involving Paul Bearer are that he underwent emergency gall bladder surgery and they needed to come up with a storyline to explain his absence, which is why the angle was shot without his physical presence. Most members of the writing team hated the kidnapping and hostage ankle but both Vince McMahon and Undertaker liked it and so it was retained.

As we reported a few days back, the Shawn Michaels injury angle shot last week on Raw is to explain Michaels’ absence from television whilst he spends time with his family. If you hadn’t heard, Shawn’s wife is expecting a newborn sometime in July. It’s very likely that Michaels will make his return shortly before Summerslam, where he will have a match with Kane.
More Wrestling News

There has been a great deal of heat lately on Rikishi for several reasons, including the fact that he was told to lose weight but has lost very little, if any, during his recovery from injury. As well as that, Rikishi managed to work an independent event for his uncle a few weeks ago despite being hurt and then went ahead and got nasal surgery without telling WWE officials which further has delayed his return.

The location for this years 9/12 WWE Unforgiven PPV is Portland, Oregon at the Rose Garden. And the 10/19 WWE PPV to be held on a Tuesday after RAW will be called Halloween Havoc.

Victoria was recently told to drop the dancing routine in her entrance. The reason WWE officials gave her was that it was too time-consuming

WWE RAW Scores A Strong Rating This Week
Story By: Ryan Cain
June 23, 2004

(Credit: PWInsider.com)

This week's edition of WWE RAW scored a cable rating of 4.2, with a 6.8 share.

This is a big improvement considering the show has only been pulling high three's as of late.

The show's first hour scored a rating of 4.0, with the second hour getting a 4.4.

[GLfan]

Looks like Eugene is a big hit!!:D

[GLfan]

Breaking News: Jeff Hardy Confirmed For NWA:TNA
Story By: Niel Stephens
June 23, 2004

We have just learned that Jeff Hardy will be at tomorrow nights Impact! taping in Orlando, Florida. Not many details are available as of yet on whether Hardy has signed a full contract with TNA, however management has told many that they didn't want anyone who wasn't signed to a TNA deal appearing on the Fox Sports Network show.

Hardy is set to appear at tonight's Second Anniversary PPV. Although word going around yesterday was that he would face X-Division champion AJ Styles, it is possible he will be used in a different manner.

[zer00]

I was wondering what happened to him.

[Go Web Go!]

He was given the boot by the WWE. That's what happened.

[GLfan]

If you guys can, give TNA a looksee. You will be pleasantly surprised how they put on a show, lots of high flying action and way less drama. I read that Jeff Hardy did wrestle to a no contest with A.J. Styles due to the interference of Kid Kash and Dallas. Styles and Hardy teamed up to beat back Kash/Dallas. From what I've also read, Hardy/Styles went all out and did their signature moves on each other and the crowd chanted both wrestlers names.

[zer00]

I don't even bother watching smackdown anymore.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by zer00
I don't even bother watching smackdown anymore.

Same here. I have'nt watched it in its entirety in months. I just gave up on the show after they decided to keep The Undertaker from making appearances. But that's not my only reason. Lets keep in mind that Bradshaw is now a main eventer. :rolleyes:

It's really sad. They had the chance to make the show so much better with the draft lottery after WrestleMania, but they didn't do a damn thing. RVD and Booker T aren't going to help. And I'd hate to break it to you, Vince, but neither is Spike Dudley. RAW's a different story, though. The show has been getting better every week. Just give it up and recombine the rosters.

[zer00]

They should have never split up the rosters.

Recombine them damnitt.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by zer00
They should have never split up the rosters.

Recombine them damnitt. zer00 is right the wwe should86 this brand extension gag everybody KNOWS they are the SAME COMPANY

[zer00]

It was always a dumb idea.

And I had no idea they were going to keep the rosters that way this long.

And who knows if they'll ever put them back.

[Eric Draven]

If it weren't for the split though, I doubt that they could've had guys from OVW like John Cena, Shelton Benjamin, or Charlie Haas come up to the WWE.....

[Go Web Go!]

Probably not, but we maybe the storylines (mainly SmackDown's) would'nt be so bad either.

By the way has anyone else heard about the WWE "killing off" Paul Bearer's character at the Bash this weekend? If that's actually happening then I wonder what the point in bringing him back was.

[Eric Draven]

I think Smackdown's problem right now is that they lost so many major players (Lesner, Angle, even the Big Show) in such a short time that they didn't have time to recuperate. If Raw had all of a sudden lost all of Evolution and Kane I bet the show would be horrible as well. I thought maybe they should've added Scott Steiner to the SD roster so they could actually have an effective heel on the show, but apparently, the company is intent with Steiner just sitting out for the rest of his contract due to injury. What a waste.

And yeah, I heard about Bearer leaving after GAB. I guess the reason why they brought him back was so that they could've made a proper Undertaker return during WM XX. But I guess due to illness, Bearer may have to leave the WWE.

[The Ghoul]

All I know is the reason he has been abscent is due to the fact he is getting gull bladder surgery. So it's not a matter of no point in bringing him back. But if he isn't cleared to walk let alone travel from arena to arena their is no point in keeping him.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
All I know is the reason he has been abscent is due to the fact he is getting gull bladder surgery. So it's not a matter of no point in bringing him back. But if he isn't cleared to walk let alone travel from arena to arena their is no point in keeping him.

I heard that he had surgery, but that he would return in just a matter of weeks. I guess it's worse then people first thought if they're just going to get rid of the character. He signed a new contract recently, so that's why I was wondering why his character is getting the axe.

[Eric Draven]

Well they probably planned to have him stick around for a while. But he's not really a young man right now, plus with his surgery, the WWE must've thought that maybe having Bearer around regularly might be a risk.

[3dman27]

maybe percy pringle aka paul bearer will be given behind the scenes work to fulfil his contract

[3dman27]

i was trying to tape tna explosion this week to see how the ppv wentafter reading of jeff hardy's appearance but all they showes was a repeat of last weeks show whats going on?

[Metamorpho1977]

I believe that Explosion tapes their shows before the PPV.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I think I'll stop watching Smackdown after the Bash.I heard that Paul Bearer leaves after The Bash,so The Undertaker will be come even more like the badass.JBL needs a depush BADLY.
Also,I can't STAND Cole.I never liked him,but lately he's been getting on my nerves.Suzuki is losing to mid-carders and Velocity Stars like Billy Gun.Vince screwed with the Lottery,and Mordecai is beating up anyone he can find like he's a thug. The divas cannot act.I almost fell asleep during the talk between Torrie and Sable last week. And,to top it all off,the Cruiserweight division is going down the crapper. amen, brother!!!

[Metamorpho1977]

watch NWA TNA, the X Division makes all other Cruiserweight/high flying/extreme divisions look tame.

[Savage]

Yeah I just saw it...Man the WWE better have one hell of a good explaination for that. Taker better be going into a good angle with this. Tonight just proved more that he is without a doubt THE greatest WWE character ever...I mean with the supernatural angle and powers and everything. I mean that lightning strike when he got pissed was freakin awesome.

[Go Web Go!]

Yet another reason to stop watching SmackDown: Bradshaw being the WWE champion. :rolleyes:

[dr. loomis]

R.I.P paul bearer:bomb:

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Yet another reason to stop watching SmackDown: Bradshaw being the WWE champion. :rolleyes: yeah,no *****,but WHO on smackdown is worthy besides taker?

[Eric Draven]

Booker T would make a pretty good champion. I also wouldn't mind it if RVD turned heel and got Paul Heyman to be his mouthpiece/manager ala Brock Lesner when he first started. If that happened, I could actually see RVD be championship material then. Just imagine him with a cocky Mr. ****ing Thursday Night gimmick. The show could actually have a credible heel then.

If the writers at Smackdown knew how to properly utilize the talent, they could have a good show. But, of course, it seems like they have their heads stuck up their asses 99 percent of the time.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
yeah,no *****,but WHO on smackdown is worthy besides taker?

Originally posted by Eric Draven
Booker T would make a pretty good champion. I also wouldn't mind it if RVD turned heel and got Paul Heyman to be his mouthpiece/manager ala Brock Lesner when he first started. If that happened, I could actually see RVD be championship material then. Just imagine him with a cocky Mr. ****ing Thursday Night gimmick. The show could actually have a credible heel then.


There's your answer, dr. loomis ;)

[zer00]

Fasten your seatbelts as we go into our slow disent into HELL.