Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

Well an accomplished wrestler of any size can break out of the full nelson. However, I do see what you're getting at and it makes sense.

I'm thinking save it for someone like the Big Show, Angle, Lesnar, or even Edge. Lesnar is the ideal choice though.

actually an accomplished wrestler could not if it is locked in tight,just like a headlock is a fight stopper in reality,once trapped the laws of leverage apply,so only a man more powerful could legitamately break it so that rules out guys like Edge and Angle

[Super_Ludacris]

I don't what point would have been to have Bret on TNA other than a GM/Manager role. He can't wrestle ( a horrible shame considering the fact that he probably could wreslte into Hulk Hogan years cause he's more technically savvy a la Terry Funk). Shame too, Goldberg really ****ed him up with that concoussion. Bret was the man though and will always be my fav. wrestler

[jackcool]

I don't what point would have been to have Bret on TNA other than a GM/Manager role. He can't wrestle ( a horrible shame considering the fact that he probably could wreslte into Hulk Hogan years cause he's more technically savvy a la Terry Funk). Shame too, Goldberg really ****ed him up with that concoussion. Bret was the man though and will always be my fav. wrestler

Yeah, plus he really doesn't have any affinity to NWA like a Sting or a Ric Flair. He's a WWF guy all the way.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I havent seen RAW but im glad HBK didn't break the masterlock,i am not convinced Masters is anything more than a big musclebound boobah jiggler but the only thing he has going for him is his power,now realsiticaly a man HBK's size can not break a fully applied full nelson from a guy Masters size short of low blowing him.They should save the breaking of it for a powerhouse to get over with

If Batista were on RAW I would've love to see him come and try the Masterlock challenge since they are both 2 massive guys. Honestly though, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Cena break the Masterlock just to re-establish his place as the #1 guy in the WWE (at least according to Vince).

I hope TNA scares WWE into caring more about their product.

[Hunter Rider]

If Batista were on RAW I would've love to see him come and try the Masterlock challenge since they are both 2 massive guys. Honestly though, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Cena break the Masterlock just to re-establish his place as the #1 guy in the WWE (at least according to Vince).

I hope TNA scares WWE into caring more about their product.

That may happen as he is very much #3 on RAW right now
I also hope TNA has that effect,i can't believe how they have depushed Christian and Completely sidelined Shelton Benjamin

[jackcool]

No wait, Shelton is currently going to take place in a racial feud with Kerwin White. That screams money doesn't it? :rolleyes: ;)


One thing I'm actually enthusiastic about on Raw is probably the tag division. Viscera/Venis does sound like a promising team (considering both are just doing nothing right now and Venis is a good enough worker to make up for Vis' shortcomings), so is Cade/Murdoch. They should honestly just move MNM, LOD 2005, and maybe the Mexicools (all three could compete in the tag team ala Demolition and DDP/Kanyon/Bigelow) and just have the tag team division on Raw. That would then leave enough room on Smackdown for the Cruiserweight division :up:

[Hunter Rider]

PWInsider.com reports that TNA will be bring in Jushin "Thunder" Liger for the Bound for Glory PPV.

Liger first appeared on U.S PPV at the 1996 WCW Starrcade PPV where he faced Rey Mysterio. It appears right now that his likely opponents will be Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, or Samoa Joe. He is considered one of the best Junior Heavyweight/X style competitors in the world.



TNA is also attempting to bring in Kevin Nash, Sting, and others to be a part of their Spike TV debut. They had been in talks with Mick Foley until he took the deal they offered him and put it in front of WWE and they gave him a deal he couldn't resist. We also know TNA would like to have the likes of Chris Jericho, Bill Goldberg, possibly Scott Hall, and others be a part of the big debut as well.

[Metamorpho1977]

Anyone know why Jerry Lynn wore that ugly purple mask in WCW and went by the name JL?

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Ric Flair was the best part of RAW, that guy cracks me up every single time.

[Not Jake]

Flair should've semi-retired long ago, it's lame seeing his older and fattened physique and thinner hair week after week:( He should only show up infrequently, therefore making him cool again:up:

Plus he grabs balls more than ever. It's like his only move anymore.:( I remember when he had other tricks:(

[Not Jake]

If Batista were on RAW I would've love to see him come and try the Masterlock challenge since they are both 2 massive guys. Honestly though, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Cena break the Masterlock just to re-establish his place as the #1 guy in the WWE (at least according to Vince).

I hope TNA scares WWE into caring more about their product.
I was just thinking it could be Cena. I guess that's fine with me, Cena's fun enough for me to watch, I know a lot of hardcore wrestling fans aren't impressed, but I enjoy his antics:o

[Dr. Manhatten]

If they're gonna shove Masters and the Masterlock Challenge down our throat, they should at least have a guy who can use it break it. Michaels, Cena, etc. don't need the extra rub. Whenever CM Punk debuts, have him be the breaker as he can wrestle circles around a lot of the E guys and could really shine

[Not Jake]

I wish Sgt. Slaughter would have broken it:(

at least he had the balls to put Masters in the Cobra Clutch, that's more than most of the fallen masterlock-ees have done:D

[NDX]

The whole Masterlock Cahllenge story reminds me of around 10 years ago when The Warlord used the move as his finisher which lead to a feud with The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith at a payperview (I believe a SummerSlam) when Davey Boy eventually muscled his way out of the hold for the victory.

I have yet to buy a TNA PPV (would buy the dvds sets but there is no Walmart near me), but if Jushin Liger was brought in for a match with anyone I would be stupid not to buy the PPV. It still pisses me off how the WWE ****ed up Ultimo Dragon's time there, and hope TNA can get him to show up as well.

[jackcool]

I wish Sgt. Slaughter would have broken it:(

at least he had the balls to put Masters in the Cobra Clutch, that's more than most of the fallen masterlock-ees have done:D

Personally, I liked what Shawn did in the Masterlock challenge yesterday. A donkey kick to the nuts will probably force Masters to let go of the move pretty easily :o

[LastSunrise1981]

Personally, I liked what Shawn did in the Masterlock challenge yesterday. A donkey kick to the nuts will probably force Masters to let go of the move pretty easily :o

Too bad Masters didn't sell it all the well. I know we're supposed to suspend disbelief and all, but do they really expect us to believe, that if we had someone in a full nelson and we were/are kicked between the legs, we're actually going to have the presence of mind to hit someone with a chair?

I mean seriously. I just want someone to kill Masters push and he's one guy I wouldn't mind Ego H burying.

[Hunter Rider]

Too bad Masters didn't sell it all the well. I know we're supposed to suspend disbelief and all, but do they really expect us to believe, that if we had someone in a full nelson and we were/are kicked between the legs, we're actually going to have the presence of mind to hit someone with a chair?

I mean seriously. I just want someone to kill Masters push and he's one guy I wouldn't mind Ego H burying.

I gotta magree there,so far he hasnt done anything very well,he is completely average and there purely on build,i think if he fails to impress against HBK at Unfrogiven they will depush him

[Lobo]

Actually, I like the idea of HHH breaking the Masterlock :up:

[kane9321]

OK, what the hell was that I just saw? Was that suppose to be a women's wrestling match? That was awful.

And is this stable Torrie, Candice, and Victoria have some kinda "Mean Girls" type of thing?

I just love victoria,and torrie but they are soo wasting their time fighting ashley..I mean cmon that sunset flip ashley tried to do failed (and failed hard I might add) She really could have hurt herself or torrie for that matter! She needs to go to ovw to get some seasoning then come back to wrestle

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Flair should've semi-retired long ago, it's lame seeing his older and fattened physique and thinner hair week after week:( He should only show up infrequently, therefore making him cool again:up:

Plus he grabs balls more than ever. It's like his only move anymore.:( I remember when he had other tricks:(

Flair still uses a ton of moves...

1) Ball grab
2) Low blow
3) Eye poke
4) Eye rake
5) Knife edge chops
6) Figure 4

Not to mention when he does the "strut" or when he gets hit, walks around and does a face plant in the middle of the ring....that s**t cracks me up every single time. There's just something about those kinds of "tricks" that never get old.

[Hunter Rider]

Flair still uses a ton of moves...

1) Ball grab
2) Low blow
3) Eye poke
4) Eye rake
5) Knife edge chops
6) Figure 4

Not to mention when he does the "strut" or when he gets hit, walks around and does a face plant in the middle of the ring....that s**t cracks me up every single time. There's just something about those kinds of "tricks" that never get old.

agreed,the thing with great performers like Flair is not the amount of moves they do its how they work in the ring ,telling the story and utilizing what they do have at the right time in the match which goes to ring phsycology

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Ric Flair may not be physically the best wrestler on the roster, but he still has the charisma to go out there and put on a good show. His mic skills combined with his "old school tricks" will never get old no matter how long he uses them.

[Bad Superman]

I think he should grab less balls. . . . :D

[Bad Superman]

Double post

[Bad Superman]

Triple post. Sorry. :(

[0neDisturbedSOB]

One more time please....

[punishermax]

The whole Masterlock Cahllenge story reminds me of around 10 years ago when The Warlord used the move as his finisher which lead to a feud with The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith at a payperview (I believe a SummerSlam) when Davey Boy eventually muscled his way out of the hold for the victory.

Actually it was at Wrestlemania 7.

[jackcool]

I gotta magree there,so far he hasnt done anything very well,he is completely average and there purely on build,i think if he fails to impress against HBK at Unfrogiven they will depush him

Yeah. Masters has improved a bit, but then again, that's really not saying much from the start. I would rather the WWE try and push a Rob Conway instead of Masters. At least Conway is a pretty decent wrestler......

[Twitch]

Yeah. Masters has improved a bit, but then again, that's really not saying much from the start. I would rather the WWE try and push a Rob Conway instead of Masters. At least Conway is a pretty decent wrestler......

I hate that they broke La Restance (sp) up for the two gayest gimmicks ever :(

[jackcool]

Eh, I think it gives Conway a chance to shine. And tights aside, Conway's gimmick isn't that gay. Plus, I'm digging his theme music more and more each week :o

Besides, if they really wanted to do another Narcissist/Reflection of Perfection gimmick, I think Conway plays it better than Masters anyways.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah. Masters has improved a bit, but then again, that's really not saying much from the start. I would rather the WWE try and push a Rob Conway instead of Masters. At least Conway is a pretty decent wrestler......

Yeah Conway has surprised me but he is a solid worker and has a gimmick that while cheesy is no more so than Masters,i thought he worked quite well with Shelton on RAW
Speaking of Shelton this feud with him and KW is dumb beyoned words but i have a hope the matches may be good as the same3 talented wrestler is behind the dumb character

[Lobo]

You know I wanted a Shelton/Chavo feud and said it like 50 pages back, but this is just stupid. I'd have liked to see them feud for the IC title.

[Twitch]

Eh, I think it gives Conway a chance to shine. And tights aside, Conway's gimmick isn't that gay. Plus, I'm digging his theme music more and more each week :o

Besides, if they really wanted to do another Narcissist/Reflection of Perfection gimmick, I think Conway plays it better than Masters anyways.

If they gave Conway real tights, I'll be digging him :up:

Now Slivan puzzles me in many ways :confused:

[jackcool]

Yeah Conway has surprised me but he is a solid worker and has a gimmick that while cheesy is no more so than Masters,i thought he worked quite well with Shelton on RAW
Speaking of Shelton this feud with him and KW is dumb beyoned words but i have a hope the matches may be good as the same3 talented wrestler is behind the dumb character

Yep. I honestly would rather see Conway feud with Shawn than Masters.

And the only thing I like about this Kerwin White gimmick is that JR keeps reffering to him as Chavo. Beyond that, whenever I see him, I keep thinking it's Eric Bischoff riding in a golf cart :confused:

[jackcool]

If they gave Conway real tights, I'll be digging him :up:

Now Slivan puzzles me in many ways :confused:

I guess they're playing Sylvan off as a European model. Not a bad gimmick for him because he could pretty much pull that off plus it helps get him away from the stale La Resistance gimmick.

[Twitch]

How do they get Chavo to get his skin white anyway? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Yep. I honestly would rather see Conway feud with Shawn than Masters.

And the only thing I like about this Kerwin White gimmick is that JR keeps reffering to him as Chavo. Beyond that, whenever I see him, I keep thinking it's Eric Bischoff riding in a golf cart :confused:

:D the sad thing is that a straight forward Chavo/Shelton feud would have been great
I think Conway will be the next IC champ taking it off Flair
Is anyone else thinking the intensity between Angle/Cena is pretty good ? i thought Cena was in pretty good in ring form on RAW he just needs to drop the 5 knuckle shuffle and windy up punch:o

[jackcool]

How do they get Chavo to get his skin white anyway? :confused:

His skin's not really white..only his hair :confused:

[Twitch]

I guess they're playing Sylvan off as a European model. Not a bad gimmick for him because he could pretty much pull that off plus it helps get him away from the stale La Resistance gimmick.

Holly will own his ass :o

[Twitch]

His skin's not really white..only his hair :confused:

I want the real Chavo :(:up:

[jackcool]

:D the sad thing is that a straight forward Chavo/Shelton feud would have been great
I think Conway will be the next IC champ taking it off Flair
Is anyone else thinking the intensity between Angle/Cena is pretty good ? i thought Cena was in pretty good in ring form on RAW he just needs to drop the 5 knuckle shuffle and windy up punch:o

Yeah, me too. It seems like they're serious on pushing Conway. He was always considered the most talented of the three La Resistance wrestlers anyways :o

And yeah, the Angle/Cena feud is pretty good. But mostly because of Angle aggressiveness. I do like the two feuding though. There's a lot of history between the two and really, there's no better wrestler to feud with than Kurt Angle. I can really see Angle winning the title at Unforgiven.

[jackcool]

I want the real Chavo :(:up:

Me too. I would rather have a Chavo-Benjamin feudrather than a racially motivated Kerwin White-Benjamin feud.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, me too. It seems like they're serious on pushing Conway. He was always considered the most talented of the three La Resistance wrestlers anyways :o

And yeah, the Angle/Cena feud is pretty good. But mostly because of Angle aggressiveness. I do like the two feuding though. There's a lot of history between the two and really, there's no better wrestler to feud with than Kurt Angle. I can really see Angle winning the title at Unforgiven.

I can see Flair taking it off Carlito and then HHH screwing it off Flair for Conway possibly putting Conway into A feud with......erm some face on RAW:confused:

I can see RVD then finishing his Carlito feud pretty quick

I think your right about Angle he is awesome right now and it is the perfect time to put the belt on him and have him dominate till WM22

[jackcool]

Indeed. Cena really doesn't need the belt to get over. They could really put it on Angle right now. Have him feud again with maybe Shawn Michaels and have Cena work his way back. That would then leave Cena to fight Angle again at WM 22 which will at least guarantee another good match :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Indeed. Cena really doesn't need the belt to get over. They could really put it on Angle right now. Have him feud again with maybe Shawn Michaels and have Cena work his way back. That would then leave Cena to fight Angle again at WM 22 which will at least guarantee another good match :up:

Looking at the way WWE are using Cena i think maybe they are feeling they pulled the trigger a bit soon,i could actually see 2 other scenarios,one is HBK taking it off Angle and dropping it either RVD or Shelton or keep it on Kurt and let one of those 2 get over on him at WM22 saving an Orton/Cena WM23 title match and having Cena go over either Austin,Hogan or HHH at Wm22

[jackcool]

Nah, I doubt it'll be Shelton considering the way they are totally underutilizing him at the moment :(

I would actually rather see Angle hold the title from Unforgiven to WM 22. Let him have an extended title reign. He certainly deserves it and it would definitely make the main event that much more interesting. Maybe have Angle vs Shawn for WM 22 for the decisive victory....or have they already fought each other three times? :confused:

[Twitch]

I wouldn't mind Cena if he drops:

That knuckle move and the F-U (change it to the spinning out powerbomb)

[Hunter Rider]

Nah, I doubt it'll be Shelton considering the way they are totally underutilizing him at the moment :(

I would actually rather see Angle hold the title from Unforgiven to WM 22. Let him have an extended title reign. He certainly deserves it and it would definitely make the main event that much more interesting. Maybe have Angle vs Shawn for WM 22 for the decisive victory....or have they already fought each other three times? :confused:

Your right on Shleton:( .........But i can dream:mad:

Angle/HBK 3 at WM22 would be my ideal Main event and i am more in favour of a long dominant Angle run so i agree there,my only reservation is that the title win at WM is usualy used to make a star and neither HBK or Angle need that so my vote would go with RVD vs Angle

[jackcool]

Your right on Shleton:( .........But i can dream:mad:

Angle/HBK 3 at WM22 would be my ideal Main event and i am more infavour of a long dominanat Angle run so i agree there,my only reservation is that the title win at WM is usualy used to make a star and neither HBK or Angle need that so my vote would go with RVD vs Angle

Yeah, WM is usually used to make a star or for their main face to once again regain the title. That's why I could see yet another Cena/Angle feud. I could really see Orton fight the Rock at WM 22 and they'll probably go ahead with the Stone Cold-Hogan match eventually. But if they don't go with Cena/Angle, a Shawn/Angle main event would be that much better. I could just imagine the promos for that match right now......

[Lobo]

And Edge will use his guaranteed shot :(

[jackcool]

And Edge will use his guaranteed shot :(

Unless the only title he can use that shot for is the World's title....;)

[Lobo]

Unless the only title he can use that shot for is the World's title....;)


I was thinking about that, its just I hate Edge and dont ever want to see him as a main champion :(

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, WM is usually used to make a star or for their main face to once again regain the title. That's why I could see yet another Cena/Angle feud. I could really see Orton fight the Rock at WM 22 and they'll probably go ahead with the Stone Cold-Hogan match eventually. But if they don't go with Cena/Angle, a Shawn/Angle main event would be that much better. I could just imagine the promos for that match right now......

Well apparently Hogan/Austin are both gonna be on RAW on oct 3rd ,personaly i would rather watch paint dry but oh well:(
I hope Austin puts over Orton at WM22 and Rock face HBK ,the fact is the possibilities are pretty good but who knows,it'll be clearer once RVD is back if the "new all talking" RVD is gonna get any further than the previous "dude" incarnation

[jackcool]

Well apparently Hogan/Austin are both gonna be on RAW on oct 3rd ,personaly i would rather watch paint dry but oh well:(
I hope Austin puts over Orton at WM22 and Rock face HBK ,the fact is the possibilities are pretty good but who knows,it'll be clearer once RVD is back if the "new all talking" RVD is gonna get any further than the previous "dude" incarnation

Yeah. There's always the possibility that the WWE may not like this new RVD and just can it and put him back to the midcard....:(

[jackcool]

I was thinking about that, its just I hate Edge and dont ever want to see him as a main champion :(

Yeah, Christian should be in Edge's spot right now. That would be much better :mad: :(

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah. There's always the possibility that the WWE may not like this new RVD and just can it and put him back to the midcard....:(

theres every possbility and ya knwo what i no longer think that being "over" matters,look at Masters push he isnt over neither is snitsky but hey they keep using him,now RVD and Christian were both over with the fans and they depush them:confused:

Still a Benoit/Mr KENNEDY.........Kennedy feud should be good:D

[jackcool]

hahahaha yeah. Mr. Kennedy is pretty funny and I've been shocked that Benoit has actually shown some comedic timing the past few weeks. And he's already a way better US champion than OJ ever was :up:


About Masters. Yeah, it's true. But that's what happens when you have Johnny Ace as the VP of Talent Relations. It's really no coincidence as well that when he held a similar role in WCW, it was probably one of it's worst times. I actually wish now that JR assumed that role again....

[Lobo]

Yeah, Christian should be in Edge's spot right now. That would be much better :mad: :(


:up:

[NDX]

Yeah, Christian should be in Edge's spot right now. That would be much better :mad: :(

Seriously. The way they are treating their true main eventers is pathetic. I have never really liked Edge and thought Christian was the better of the pair, and that has been proven with his matches over the last year.

WrestleMania 21 was a real disappointment when I saw Cena and Batista walk away with the titles. As much as I don't want Bradshaw and HHH to hold the titles I rather they keep it and drop the titles to deserving adversaries.

Hopefully Cena will lose the title to Angel in the coming weeks. Hopefully Angel will defend the title until Survivor Series where Edge finally uses his "Money in the Bank" title shot and lose the match. Hopefully Angel will feud with HBK, allowing HBK to take the title from Angle. Hopefully HBK would then defeat Angle to retain the title. Hopefully RVD will win the Royal Rumble and challenge HBK for the title. Hopefully HBK will drop the title to RVD at the headlining match at WrestleMania 22.

And with Batista, I just hope he loses the title. I don't care to who anymore. Then that person drops the title to Christian and that's that.

-

Mr. Ken Kennedy... Kennedy (anyone catch his Velocity debut when he announced himself as Mr. Ken Anderson... Anderson?) has been a lot of fun to watch. I love his personallity and his mic skills come off well. He keeps my attention. His in ring work has impressed me so far, along with how he tells a story within the match. I think given a few more months he would make a great opponent for Benoit's title (even though I do not like the idea of giving title shots to someone so quickly into the program).

Jordan has also impressed me, but I'm glad he finally dropped the title. Put him in a feud with ... umm... hell, I can't think of it right now, but put him in a feud with 'em anyway.

[Not Jake]

Angle can win the title but he'll forever be berated unless he changes his entrance music:D

[SLYspyder]

his entrance music is awesome, and i dont think he minds the "you suck" chants, if he did, he'd have changed his music years ago.

[Bad Superman]

One more time please....

:D Sorry. I just noticed the triple post. Will edit. :D

[Not Jake]

his entrance music is awesome, and i dont think he minds the "you suck" chants, if he did, he'd have changed his music years ago.
I bet if he turns into a big ol' face they'll change it up because of persistant You Sucks

[LastSunrise1981]

I bet if he turns into a big ol' face they'll change it up because of persistant You Sucks

They did turn him face and the fans still did it, but Angle didn't seem to mind as he said he missed it. Good to see he has a sense of humor. :up:

[SLYspyder]

I bet if he turns into a big ol' face they'll change it up because of persistant You Sucks

the chants were like 90% less when he was a face, barely noticeable

[jackcool]

Really, I can't see Angle changing his theme music. He's had it his entire time in the WWE, and that's especially surprising in this day of wrestlers constantly changing their themes.

[TheVileOne]

It was the Patriot's theme music before it was Kurt Angle.

[jackcool]

Yeah, I know. But honestly, it's Kurt Angle's theme now. It'll be just like Ric Flair changing up his theme...

[NDX]

No more theme changes. It's a headache enough as it is.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

As of late Shawn Michaels has been becoming a regular at WWE production meetings. HBK recently spoke his mind on the creative team's apparent failure, in his opinion, to have anything better for him than Chris Masters after his loss to Hogan at SummerSlam. However, despite his opinion on the matter, Michaels has handled the situation professionaly in a manner comparable to that of his handling of the Hogan SummerSlam fued.

HBK isn't the only veteran wrestler to regularly attend WWE production meetings. Other wrestlers regularly in attendance are Triple H (obviously) and The Undertaker.

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The complete card for this Sunday's "Unbreakable" is set, with three new matches added on Thursday morning. The Pay-Per-View will take place from Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida, live and exclusively on Pay-Per-View!

NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH
Champion Raven vs. Rhino

THREE-WAY X DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Champion The Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels vs. The Phenomenal AJ Styles vs. The Samoan Submission Machine Samoa Joe

ELIMINATION MATCH FOR THE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
Champions The Naturals vs. America's Most Wanted vs. Team Canada vs. Sean Waltman and Alex Shelley

Sabu vs. The Monster Abyss w/ Jim Mitchell

The Charismatic Enigma Jeff Hardy vs. Team Canada's Bobby Roode

The Alpha Male Monty Brown and Kip James vs. Apolo and Lance Hoyt

The 3Live Kru vs. The Diamonds In The Rough

Team Canada's Petey Williams vs. Chris Sabin

Showcase Match: Austin Aries vs. Roderick Strong

Card update: TNA Wrestling was set to announce Shocker vs. Chris Sabin for Sunday's Pay-Per-View, but due to travel issues in Mexico, Shocker will be unable to appear. As a result, TNA management has replaced Petey Williams vs. Austin Aries to Petey Williams vs. Chris Sabin, with Aries moving into a "Showcase Match" against fellow independent star Roderick Strong as the two young stars show off their talent as we head to SpikeTV on October 1.

Don't miss thus Sunday's epic TNA Pay-Per-View as we prepare for the debut of "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV on Saturday, October 1! Also on the show this Sunday will be HUGE news concerning October's "Bound For Glory" Pay-Per-View, including the arrival of an international superstar to TNA Wrestling!

Don't forget to check out the FREE TNA Countdown Preshow this Sunday, a half-hour prior to the start of "Unbreakable", featuring last-minute news, interviews and exclusive matches before we go live on Pay-Per-View!

Just a reminder that we have opened up as website directly related to TNA wrestling. For any TNA wrestling fan who wants to know what big stars are coming to TNA, the latest on Bret Hart, Y2J, and Sting returning to the company, as well as two WWE Divas currently signed to TNA, visit TNAWrestlingNews.com (http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/)

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ

At this point, it looks much more likely to have John Cena vs. Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania as opposed to Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan. It may have been worked out prior to the finish of the Shawn Michaels vs. Hulk Hogan match, that Hogan would return the favor by allowing John Cena to defeat him cleanly at WrestleMania.

Many suggest that it would take quite a bit more than a large payday for Austin to return to the ring, especially against Hogan. Austin would only participate in a match against Hogan unless it makes sense. At this it's much too far away to predict what will happen, but it does appear from recent reports from Jim Ross that Austin will at some point return to a WWE ring, but against who is still up in the air.

I think Austin is to smart to make the mistake of wrestling Hogan,there is no way Hogan will want to lose and there is no point in the match other than as a all hype no product joke,I think he will do the right thing and put over someone young and up and coming thus giving his return purpose,hoepfully it will be Randy Orton.
As for Cena wrestlign Hogan,that is fairly obtuse as well but at least it would take Cena out the title match and give us a better opponent for Angle

[Not Jake]

No more theme changes. It's a headache enough as it is.
Cena's theme change was for the better


he'll probably change again to promote his cd:(

[Not Jake]

From WZ



I think Austin is to smart to make the mistake of wrestling Hogan,there is no way Hogan will want to lose and there is no point in the match other than as a all hype no product joke,I think he will do the right thing and put over someone young and up and coming thus giving his return purpose,hoepfully it will be Randy Orton.
As for Cena wrestlign Hogan,that is fairly obtuse as well but at least it would take Cena out the title match and give us a better opponent for Angle
Austin-Hogan would be like the biggest match ever. Good for wrestling


I don't want Hogan to lose his last match.:( Either beat Austin or quit, is what I'd say, because Austin's about the only thing bigger than beating Michaels in your final match...

[Hunter Rider]

Austin-Hogan would be like the biggest match ever. Good for wrestling


I don't want Hogan to lose his last match.:( Either beat Austin or quit, is what I'd say, because Austin's about the only thing bigger than beating Michaels in your final match...

Biggest match ever INO it would be a laughable joke ,and if Hogan cared about the industry he would lose his last match as thats what the tradition of the buissness is

[jackcool]

Cena's theme change was for the better


he'll probably change again to promote his cd:(

I actually liked his old theme more. It had way more edge than his current one.

[Angelus103]

is smackdown on live or still taped on tuesday

[NDX]

Still taped.

Funny seeing Roderick Strong on TNA. When creating track listings for my oodles and oodles (yeah, I typed oodles twice) of homemade wrestling tapes I found a tape of him losing the Kurt Angle Invitational earlier this year.

After seeing Samoa Joe and Low-Ki fight to a draw at a USA Pro show last year (third best match I ever saw live), Joe has been a favorite of mine. So I hope once Impact hits Spike TV he will be the next X Division Champion.

[TheVileOne]

Unbreakable is going to be so ****ing tits on 9/11.

Unbreakable is going to be better than just about EVERY WWE PPV this year, I guarantee it.

Roderick Strong has actually wrestled in TNA before. And he also has a huge indy wrestling following. I think we got the better deal in having Strong vs. Aries and Williams vs. Sabin instead of Sabin/Shocker.

I really hope Joe vs. Daniels vs. AJ is as classic as it looks on paper.

[Super_Ludacris]

Biggest match ever INO it would be a laughable joke ,and if Hogan cared about the industry he would lose his last match as thats what the tradition of the buissness is


Hogan took a lot of losses in 2002, he put a lot of people over ( Rock, Angle, Lesnar, Jericho)

As for Austin, he can't wrestle anyways cause of his neck and what not, so it's a moot point when people speak on a Hulk v Stone Cold match up

[NDX]

I still mark out when I see the Red and Yellow, but I think we've had enough of him for a while. But if a match were to come about, I agree, putting over Cena (as much as I don't want to see Cena put over in such a manner) is the best idea.

And I don't want to see Austin at ALL within the next four years. His time as Raw "GM" made me just loathe the man to no end.

[Hunter Rider]

Hogan took a lot of losses in 2002, he put a lot of people over ( Rock, Angle, Lesnar, Jericho)

As for Austin, he can't wrestle anyways cause of his neck and what not, so it's a moot point when people speak on a Hulk v Stone Cold match up

When Hogan put those guys over he had no choice,in 2002 he was unemployed along with Nash and Hall and they wanted back in as there was nowhere to go,Vince hired them and had them under contract which meant they had to do as they were told,As soon as Hogan was performing under and independant retainer again (ie match with HBK) he was back to his old self of demanding everything be done his way
According to Jim Ross Austin will wrestle again most likely at WM22

[Hunter Rider]

I still mark out when I see the Red and Yellow, but I think we've had enough of him for a while. But if a match were to come about, I agree, putting over Cena (as much as I don't want to see Cena put over in such a manner) is the best idea.

And I don't want to see Austin at ALL within the next four years. His time as Raw "GM" made me just loathe the man to no end.

The main thing that would please me about Cena/Hogan is it would leave the title match open for someone else

[Hunter Rider]

Unbreakable is going to be so ****ing tits on 9/11.

Unbreakable is going to be better than just about EVERY WWE PPV this year, I guarantee it.

Roderick Strong has actually wrestled in TNA before. And he also has a huge indy wrestling following. I think we got the better deal in having Strong vs. Aries and Williams vs. Sabin instead of Sabin/Shocker.

I really hope Joe vs. Daniels vs. AJ is as classic as it looks on paper.
I also read that it was gonna be Sabu vs Abysss which sounds awesome IMO

[Twitch]

Hopefully my RVD DVD will come today or during this coming week.... so many great matches omfg :(:up:

[Hunter Rider]

Hopefully my RVD DVD will come today or during this coming week.... so many great matches omfg :(:up:

**** Twitch your avvy's :( hang on

[Hunter Rider]

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/402/11ep.gif http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7977/20xo.gif

[Twitch]

http://wrestlinguniverse.htmlplanet.com/images/gif_jericho4.gif

EDIT:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/HBKnY2Jericho/AJAvatarMary.gif
(Feel Free to cut out a few frames if you have to)

I love you :o

[Hunter Rider]

Those are the avvy's you wanted Twitch,i forgot to do them last night when i saw them in the avvy thread:(

[Twitch]

Those are the avvy's you wanted Twitch,i forgot to do them last night when i saw them in the avvy thread:(

No problem....I'm gonna miss Jericho :(

[Hunter Rider]

No problem....I'm gonna miss Jericho :(
Yeam me to:( hopefully he wil go and work for TNA and give them a boost:up:

[Twitch]

Yeam me to:( hopefully he wil go and work for TNA and give them a boost:up:

IMO Jericho should build muscle and maybe shred a couple pounds to look intimaditing (sp) and grow his hair long and go back to the rocker gimmick heel. He would be so badass :up:

[Hunter Rider]

IMO Jericho should build muscle and maybe shred a couple pounds to look intimaditing (sp) and grow his hair long and go back to the rocker gimmick heel. He would be so badass :up:

Agreed,his last run as a heel as "bishcoff's boy" sucked:mad: The Arrogant Rock Star Heel would be a great way to bring him into TNA,perhaps for a feud with AJ Styles

[NDX]

I'm actually glad Jericho will be out of the limelight for a while. He was starting to get on my nerves. The time they finally push him towards a program for a title he's an annoying little ****. Some time away from the ring will be good for him and for the fans, in my opinion.

[Twitch]

Agreed,his last run as a heel as "bishcoff's boy" sucked:mad: The Arrogant Rock Star Heel would be a great way to bring him into TNA,perhaps for a feud with AJ Styles

Styles vs. Jericho for the X division title

*Drools*

[Angelus103]

why is everyone talking like y2j is going to tna

[3dman27]

yes he renewed with wwe hes just on leave of absense fo a music group tour

[jackcool]

Agreed,his last run as a heel as "bishcoff's boy" sucked:mad: The Arrogant Rock Star Heel would be a great way to bring him into TNA,perhaps for a feud with AJ Styles

Is he going to TNA though? Although it would be cool to see him wrestle in TNA, Jericho would most likely be shooting himself in the foot if he signed there. Especially after he "swore allegiance" to the WWE.....

[Hunter Rider]

Is he going to TNA though? Although it would be cool to see him wrestle in TNA, Jericho would most likely be shooting himself in the foot if he signed there. Especially after he "swore allegiance" to the WWE.....

Im not sure but the extension he signed only took him to the nigth after SS.It was probably precautionary on Vinces part to make sure Jericho didn't try anything in the match with Cena.
As of now he is unemployed wrestling-wise

[Twitch]

Rob Van Dam and Sabu matches are so ****ing great :up:

RVD to TNA for more classic matches with Sabu, Lynn and Raven....Styles, Sabin, Daniels :up:.....:(

[TheVileOne]

I'm excited about Sabu/Abyss tomorrow night.

[Twitch]

I'm excited about Sabu/Abyss tomorrow night.

I imagine its going to be really insane :up:

On the RVD DVD I'm made it to RVD vs. Jerry Lynn Living Dangerously 99....I'm taking a break before I watch it :o

[jackcool]

Im not sure but the extension he signed only took him to the nigth after SS.It was probably precautionary on Vinces part to make sure Jericho didn't try anything in the match with Cena.
As of now he is unemployed wrestling-wise

I actually wouldn't be surprised to maybe see him out of wrestling for a good long-time. Like a year or so....

[jackcool]

Well it seems like the WWE has let Daniel Puder go. So right now, it seems like the only TE winner to actually do something is Johnny Nitro....

[TheVileOne]

Yet another waste of time by bringing back Tough Enough.

Great job WWE.

[Twitch]

Well it seems like the WWE has let Daniel Puder go. So right now, it seems like the only TE winner to actually do something is Johnny Nitro....

You forgot Maven

[TheVileOne]

You forgot Maven

Maven got fired too :p .

Maven, Jackie Gayda, Linda ?, and Nidia.

[White_Howling]

poor tough enought guys....... hope they made money working for wwe...

[Twitch]

Maven got fired too :p .

Maven, Jackie Gayda, Linda ?, and Nidia.

I meant before that :o

[TheVileOne]

Even before that Maven was a useless waste of time.

[Twitch]

Even before that Maven was a useless waste of time.

IMO he shouldn't have been built up along Simon Dean :down (But if it was Nova :up:)

[TheVileOne]

IMO he shouldn't have been built up along Simon Dean :down (But if it was Nova :up:)

Maven was around long before Simon Dean and he still sucked.

[jackcool]

Maven got fired too :p .

Maven, Jackie Gayda, Linda ?, and Nidia.

Chris Nowinski was also one of the final three in the first Tough Enough and he's basically retired now. And the guy that won alongside Johnny Nitro has had injury problems, I have a feeling he won't be in the WWE for long.....

[TheVileOne]

Joey Matthews is still there, but he never wrestled.

[Twitch]

Chris Nowinski was also one of the final three in the first Tough Enough and he's basically retired now. And the guy that won alongside Johnny Nitro has had injury problems, I have a feeling he won't be in the WWE for long.....

Hey Jack can I have a copy of your Eric Draven Avatar? :o

[jackcool]

Was Joey Matthews ever in Tough Enough? Isn't he the former ECW/TNA wrestler who's Johnny Nitro's tag partner now? :confused:

Matt Morgan was also another TE contestant I believe....

[jackcool]

Hey Jack can I have a copy of your Eric Draven Avatar? :o

Why? :confused:

[TheVileOne]

Johnny Nitro's tag-team partner is Joey Mercury.

Josh Matthews is one of the original final four from the first Tough Enough.

[Twitch]

Why? :confused:

I'm trying to make myself a rip-off of you :o:(

[jackcool]

Johnny Nitro's tag-team partner is Joey Mercury.

Josh Matthews is one of the original final four from the first Tough Enough.

Who formerly went by Joey Matthews....didn't he? :confused:

And yeah, I know of Josh Matthews, but you wrote "Joey" in your post ;)

[TheVileOne]

Who formerly went by Joey Matthews....didn't he? :confused:

And yeah, I know of Josh Matthews, but you wrote "Joey" in your post ;)

Oops, my mistake then.

[Jason Blood]

I think that Sylvain's new model gimmick could work for him

his finisher isn't too bad either (a pretty nice suplex into a DDT)

[punishermax]

Unbreakable was one the best PPV's I have seen in years, the Triple Threat match was in one word: AWESOME!

[jackcool]

Looks like Matt Bentley is back as well. Kinda suspected he wasn't going anywhere since they didn't take him off the TNA roster page....

[TheVileOne]

Agreed Punishermax.

I can't remember the last time WWE did a PPV this good.

[punishermax]

I'm trying to remember a WWE PPV this good, and right now I can't think of one.

[TheVileOne]

**** WWE.

Long live TNA.

[punishermax]

I'm not gonna say **** WWE, but I agree with the long live TNA, TNA has definitely cemented itself as my favorite promotion, after seeing most of No Surrender, all of Sacrifice, and then Unbreakable tonight all I'm gonna say is Vinny Mac better get his ass in gear, or TNA is gonna be knockin on his door sooner than most of 'em thought.

[NDX]

I really wish I had the money to purchase this event.

Maybe TNA will use Johnny Candido outside of this event. The few matches I've seen him in have not really showcased if he had talent of not and I'd like to know. They have been more painful to watch. 15 local wrestlers in one ring at one time is always a bad idea. Oh yeah, and one match where Bam Bam Bigelo kicked his ass.

[TheVileOne]

The only reason he stepped into the ring was because Sean Waltman is a ****ing douche-bag.

[3dman27]

source lords of pain.com
rodney mack and jazz have been aproched by TNA about working for them however TNA has lost track of them since hurricane katrina since the couple live in new orleans
also when wwe returns to USA it will have an "experience style weekend show" however USA has insisted there be ZERO smackdown referenses to avoid publisising another networks show [spike tv and upn are both owned by viacom so ther was no conflict of interest there]

[NDX]

Weekends are gonna suck without Velocity and Heat. Well, not really, but there will be a void that Lucha Libre won't fill.

[Savage]

source lords of pain.com
rodney mack and jazz have been aproched by TNA about working for them however TNA has lost track of them since hurricane katrina since the couple live in new orleans

...:(

[jackcool]

The only reason he stepped into the ring was because Sean Waltman is a ****ing douche-bag.

So the Waltman thing was really a no-show by Waltman and not something intentional in TNA's part? :confused:

[Jason Blood]

I've heard that Waltman has been talking with WWE people

I don't want to see him in the WWE EVER again

[Hunter Rider]

So the Waltman thing was really a no-show by Waltman and not something intentional in TNA's part? :confused:

It was for real


As noted earlier this morning, Sean Waltman was not present at the TNA PPV last night. We do know that Sean was in contact with TNA officials during the ladder part of the afternoon. Sean claimed that he would be arriving shortly and never showed up. It's interesting to note that when Jeff Hardy no-showed a TNA PPV several months back, Waltman was the guy to step up and take his place. It's also interesting to note that he basically 'screwed' Jerry Lynn from doing whatever they had planned for him at the PPV. He was used on the last PPV, Sacrifice, and then not even mentioned during last nights broadcast. TNAWrestlingNews.com posted an unconfirmed report this morning that Waltman was seen in his ring gear signing autographs at the hotel where the wrestlers stay. It could have been a case where Waltman was en route and missed the show or it could be something more. Well keep you posted.

[Twitch]

Does anybody know where you can find a good wrestling bio sites that features the wrestlers favorite moves.

I'm trying to create Sabu in SD:HCTP :o

[jackcool]

Wow. Talk about unprofessional. And this guy expects the WWE to be interested in him again?

[Twitch]

It was for real

What do they mean by the screwd Lynn part :confused:

[Jason Blood]

It was for real
you need to change your avatar to Kerwin White

[Hunter Rider]

you need to change your avatar to Kerwin White

:confused:

[T]

Does anybody know where you can find a good wrestling bio sites that features the wrestlers favorite moves.

I'm trying to create Sabu in SD:HCTP :o

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/index.html

[Twitch]

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/index.html

Thanks Big Time :up:

[jackcool]

Does this sound familiar? John Cena once again has to fight in a handicap match, this time against Tyson Tomko and Kurt Angle......

[Donnie Darko]

how about Trish being back? definitely looking hot as ever

[Savage]

Yeah, that was pretty cool. Bringing the actual WRESTLERS back.

[NDX]

Nice to see another female wrestler. They fired too many of their talented inring performers for beautiful (to some) women who can't wrestle or work a mic.

Too bad nothing panned out from April Hunter's tryout.

If the Waltman **** is real, which I wouldn't put past him, I'm sure TNA asked Johnny Candido to fill in for him to work a storyline. Perhaps get Johnny Candido a regular on the program.

Hopefully with TNA picking up on some indy talent, they will look into Homicide, Deranged, the SAT and Slyk Wagner Brown.

I still need to check out tonight's headlines.

[TheVileOne]

Rhino's promo at Unbreakable pretty accurately clarified my feelings with WWE.

"4 years of wrestling Hell! No more corporate ass-kissers! No more HOLLYWOOD *****ES telling ME how to show emotion in the ring!"

[NDX]

Will be good to see Rhino act like Rhino again. WWE just ruined him.

[Metamorpho1977]

Looks like WWE is anticipating some competition from TNA by actually having wrestling on last week's Smackdown and this week's Raw.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b131/XLAJ/Pictures/1traci.jpg

heh:D

[kane9321]

i'm glad trish is back..now victoria can beat her arse and take her belt..hot damn victoria looked good lastnite

[TheVileOne]

Ric Flair vs. Chris Masters is NOT wrestling :p .

[Metamorpho1977]

yeah, but Cade and Murdoch was an entertaining match.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com

Early estimates reveal that WWE Summerslam scored approximately 525,000 buys; by the time final figures are calculated, that number is expected to jump as high as 575-600,000. Because the show was, in many ways, a one-match card, the buyrate definitely confirms strong interest in Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels.

If the estimates hold up, this year's Summerslam easily tops last year's show, which was headlined by Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton. It also becomes one of the top-performing non-WrestleMania shows of the last four years.

Aside from being a "dream match," the Hogan-HBK match made headlines due to the reported backstage tension between the two wrestlers. Michaels was said to be furious with the way Hogan played politics to get a clean victory with the leg drop and opted not to take part in a second match when it became clear Hogan was not interested in splitting the victories.


*sighs*:(

[Goldenage Batman]

http://www.pwwew.net/wrestleshop/video/wwf/cartoon1.jpg... Sorry to change the sub...but wow...I forgot all about this...

[jackcool]

yeah, but Cade and Murdoch was an entertaining match.

Yeah, who would've thought that Garrison Cade and the son of Dusty Rhodes who wasn't Goldust would make such a promising team?

[Metamorpho1977]

Is that Dusty Rhodes' son? I thought the resemblance was close, but wouldn't have thought he was his son.

[Goldenage Batman]

Golddust is Dusty Rhodes son..

[TheVileOne]

I'm serious guys.

The only way to send a message to WWE would watch TNA.

They are slacking off so much right now its not even funny.

[jackcool]

I personally am. I watch Impact every week. In fact, I also watch the old TNA shows that air here on ESPN Classic.

But since I don't have Spike TV, I hope they still show Impact in RealPlayer format because that may be the only way I can still watch that show....

[Hunter Rider]

I dont even have that option but look at the buyrate for SS,they dont need to try,no one cares about in ring work where the money lies:(

[jackcool]

I dont even have that option but look at the buyrate for SS,they dont need to try,no one cares about in ring work where the money lies:(

That's how the WWE is successful though. Honestly, it's not just the wrestling fans they try and lure in. It's how big of an event they could make out of a PPV. Honestly, Hogan vs Michaels was going to draw, not because of the match itself, but because any casual person out there knows who Hulk Hogan and Shawn Michaels are and are interested in seeing those two wrestling in the ring for the first time.

[Twitch]

I dont even have that option but look at the buyrate for SS,they dont need to try,no one cares about in ring work where the money lies:(

Hogan, damm you :(

O_0 I need an an ECW and the Whole ****ing show avvy with RVD. That will be a kickass avatar if I wasn't too lazy to find the damm images :(:o

OMFG Sabu rocks

[Hunter Rider]

Hogan, damm you :(

O_0 I need an an ECW and the Whole ****ing show avvy with RVD. That will be a kickass avatar if I wasn't too lazy to find the damm images :(:o

OMFG Sabu rocks

Yeah Sabu is amazing
here's an RVD avvy i made a while ago if you want it

http://photobucket.com/albums/v112/collateralxxx/th_RVD1.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/v112/collateralxxx/?action=view&current=RVD1.gif)

Jack your absolutely right but lets look at the WWE's current pushes such as masters and Carlito,they are both sucking like $2 whores right now and yet the crowd doesnt seem to mind

[Lobo]

Can someone find the footage of Carlito spitting an apple in Maria's face please :D

[jackcool]

With Masters, I actually see the crowd getting bored with him. They just want him feud with Shawn to quit so he could be depushed. With Carlito, I see potential for being a future main-eventer right there, but he needs a lot of work still. Honestly, a lot of these youngsters are being brought up way too quickly.

Look at Ken Kennedy. I've heard that that guy has been around for a while. And it definitely shows. This guy could be a credible US champion by next year. Or even later this year.....

[Hunter Rider]

With Masters, I actually see the crowd getting bored with him. They just want him feud with Shawn to quit so he could be depushed. With Carlito, I see potential for being a future main-eventer right there, but he needs a lot of work still. Honestly, a lot of these youngsters are being brought up way too quickly.

Look at Ken Kennedy. I've heard that that guy has been around for a while. And it definitely shows. This guy could be a credible US champion by next year. Or even later this year.....

I agree on MR KENNEDY.........Kennedy but Carlito other than his mic work is pants in the ring,he needs at least another 2 years in development but even then im not sold,i see him more as a comedy presenting character just doing his show as opposed to wrestling big time matches

[jackcool]

More than two years even. Ken Kennedy was a jobber to Essa Rios. How long ago was that? five, six years? That means he's been toiling around in the minors for almost six years.

And now you have guys like Renee Dupree or Chris Masters who are like 20 years of age and just absolutely need more work.

[Hunter Rider]

More than two years even. Ken Kennedy was a jobber to Essa Rios. How long ago was that? five, six years? That means he's been toiling around in the minors for almost six years.

And now you have guys like Renee Dupree or Chris Masters who are like 20 years of age and just absolutely need more work.

Masters is absolutely banal,the guy is sloppy and lacks mobility,he is the ultimate knuckle head,i was being to easy on him the other week there,i think HBk needs to superkick him back to Heat and then feud with Angle over the strap

What was the Benjamin/Chavo match like ? i know he looked stupid:(

At least Trish looked Creamy on her return:o

[Twitch]

Yeah Sabu is amazing
here's an RVD avvy i made a while ago if you want it

http://photobucket.com/albums/v112/collateralxxx/th_RVD1.gif (http://photobucket.com/albums/v112/collateralxxx/?action=view&current=RVD1.gif)

Jack your absolutely right but lets look at the WWE's current pushes such as masters and Carlito,they are both sucking like $2 whores right now and yet the crowd doesnt seem to mind


Adds to RVD collection :o

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/slash9885/ecw.gif

Can you cut it down to the purple ECW sign footage?

[jackcool]

Masters is absolutely banal,the guy is sloppy and lacks mobility,he is the ultimate knuckle head,i was being to easy on him the other week there,i think HBk needs to superkick him back to Heat and then feud with Angle over the strap

What was the Benjamin/Chavo match like ? i know he looked stupid:(

At least Trish looked Creamy on her return:o

That's what happens when you're totally musclebound like he is. Look at Scott Steiner, that guy was such a great wrestler 10-15 years ago. Then he started roiding up like crazy and became such a **** wrestler....

The Benjamin/Chavo match was pretty good, albeit a bit short. It was a bit funny though to see "Kerwin" hang up his sweater vest with a hanger before the match started :o

[SLYspyder]

you know what, i'm tired of all the anti-WWE anticks im seeing in this thread, a show can't dish out great episodes all the time. i say we seperate threads, one for WWE discussion only and one for TNA discussion only.

[Hunter Rider]

That's what happens when you're totally musclebound like he is. Look at Scott Steiner, that guy was such a great wrestler 10-15 years ago. Then he started roiding up like crazy and became such a **** wrestler....

The Benjamin/Chavo match was pretty good, albeit a bit short. It was a bit funny though to see "Kerwin" hang up his sweater vest with a hanger before the match started :o

Well at least that side of the feud will work,honestly it is just so dumb what they are doing with both those guys IMO

I am starting worry that WWE are eyeing Edge as the next WWE champ which means he will probably main event WM22:(

[SLYspyder]

trish was looking hot as ever last night, i'm a little bit saddened she's a face now, but ill get over it.

[Hunter Rider]

you know what, i'm tired of all the anti-WWE anticks im seeing in this thread, a show can't dish out great episodes all the time. i say we seperate threads, one for WWE discussion only and one for TNA discussion only.

There would be no point,the fact is competition is a major talking point,the onlt anti wwe person here is Vile the ones like me and Jack just want to see WWE actually bother about ring product instead of pushing crap gimmicks with no talent

[jackcool]

Well at least that side of the feud will work,honestly it is just so dumb what they are doing with both those guys IMO

I am starting worry that WWE are eyeing Edge as the next WWE champ which means he will probably main event WM22:(

Yeah, it is a bit.

I don't want to see Edge as champ, I'd rather see Angle as champ. With an extended title reign :(

[jackcool]

There would be no point,the fact is competition is a major talking point,the onlt anti wwe person here is Vile the ones like me and Jack just want to see WWE actually bother about ring product instead of pushing crap gimmicks with no talent

That and I like wrestling a lot. Plus, the WWE always has a lag period. But that's good because the horrible periods of wrestling just make the kickass periods that much better :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, it is a bit.

I don't want to see Edge as champ, I'd rather see Angle as champ. With an extended title reign :(

agreed a 100% i dont mind Edge but CC is better,however i would like to see him have a short reign at a non important time not in the lead in to WM22,
Angle deserves a long run and a fedu with HBk then a match with RVD at WM22

[Twitch]

Yeah, it is a bit.

I don't want to see Edge as champ, I'd rather see Angle as champ. With an extended title reign :(

I agree, IMO he should have fought Batista for the title after WM 21 because IMO his heel heat was at its peak. Now I'm getting annoyed by him a little bit. :down

[Hunter Rider]

That and I like wrestling a lot. Plus, the WWE always has a lag period. But that's good because the horrible periods of wrestling just make the kickass periods that much better :up:

Good point,Wrestling is something i have followed for 15 years and i enjoy the buissness,WWE is in a transition period,from The Rock.Austin,Foley era,
now some guys are there to help build the next gen like Angle,HHH and HBk but they need to really look at some of these young talents closer and stop pulling the trigger so damn fast

[jackcool]

agreed a 100% i dont mind Edge but CC is better,however i would like to see him have a short reign at a non important time not in the lead in to WM22,
Angle deserves a long run and a fedu with HBk then a match with RVD at WM22

Eh, I wouldn't mind a short (like a month-long) title reign. But I really see Edge as another JBL just with marginally better wrestling ability. However, he isn't as entertaining as JBL can be on the mic sometimes....:o

[Hunter Rider]

here ya go Twitch

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4149/16wg.gif

[Hunter Rider]

Eh, I wouldn't mind a short (like a month-long) title reign. But I really see Edge as another JBL just with marginally better wrestling ability. However, he isn't as entertaining as JBL can be on the mic sometimes....:o

He's beome a blow hard and lost some of the heat he had pretty damn quick which is an indicator that he isnt really main event given he has lack of longevity

[Twitch]

here ya go Twitch

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4149/16wg.gif

Can't get it to 75x75?

[Hunter Rider]

Can't get it to 75x75?

Blurry:(

[Twitch]

He's beome a blow hard and lost some of the heat he had pretty damn quick which is an indicator that he isnt really main event given he has lack of longevity

IMO Edge should have fought HHH at WM 21...he had alot of heat then, but then they pushed him back into mid-card and he got boring :down

[Twitch]

Blurry:(

:(:(

[punishermax]

More than two years even. Ken Kennedy was a jobber to Essa Rios. How long ago was that? five, six years? That means he's been toiling around in the minors for almost six years.

And now you have guys like Renee Dupree or Chris Masters who are like 20 years of age and just absolutely need more work.

Kennedy was wrestling up here for the last few years in Wisconsin in NWA-ACW as Kamikaze Ken Anderson, never saw him wrestle in person I only went to one ACW show but I saw him wrestle one one of the ACW tapes I bought.

[NDX]

I look forward to seeing Mr. Kennedy going far in the WWE. Hopefully holding the US Title by March. I think he should start a feud with Booker T for a few PPVs. See if they can put a few good matches together, letting Kennedy go over again. The start a program with Benoit, having him eventually drop the title to Kennedy for a brief stint.

But whatever I want in wrestling, I never get unless it's at small venue shows.

Looks like Homicide will be going to TNA for a latino group with Konnan, Apolo and Shocker. Could be interesting. Would prefer they just bring in Homicide to preform on his own. Only seen one match of his that wasn't good in the last year or so.

[3dman27]

Masters is absolutely banal,the guy is sloppy and lacks mobility,he is the ultimate knuckle head,i was being to easy on him the other week there,i think HBk needs to superkick him back to Heat and then feud with Angle over the strap
too bad heats been CANCELLED

[Hunter Rider]

- Confirming the rumors, PWTorch.com reports that WWE did contact The Rock about appearing on the "Night Of Champions," but the wrestler-turned-actor declined to appear. No one knows whether that was due to a prior commitment or if he simply did not want to work the show. It is worth reporting that internal WWE documents list Rock as part of its talent pool, so many likely assumed he would be available for the big episode of RAW.


Source: PWInsider.com

Samoa Joe updated his live journal and noted "Who knows if the "mainstream" world will take to what we want to show them, but you better believe I'm going to take the chance and give it 110%. I hope your along for the ride, or at least ready to watch us roll. You can call it whatever you want but it is always "wrestling", and that's what we've got for you. Whose coming with me?"

Bill Banks has posted an interview with Samoa Joe on the TNAWrestling.com website. He puts over Chris Sabin big and said he was going to take a break from wrestling before TNA came to him with an offer.

As of last word, TNA still had not heard from Sean Waltman. As noted, he left his grandmothers house around 6EST and headed for the TNA arena on Sunday night. The company is said to be furious with his no-show especially since he was working for the winning team in the Chris Candido Memorial Tournament on the PPV.

[Colossal Spoons]

I seriously hope The Rock is on Raw on the 3rd. I'll consider it a spit in the face of all wrestling fans if he doesn't show up.

[TheVileOne]

Hey hunter rider, will you be able to watch TNA Impact when its on Euro-sport now? Aren't you in the UK?

[Hunter Rider]

Hey hunter rider, will you be able to watch TNA Impact when its on Euro-sport now? Aren't you in the UK?

WHAT??????? it's on Eurosport ?
LMAO Vile i never thought id say this but you just made my day:D :up:

[Hunter Rider]

WOOOOHHOHOOOOO!!!!! just read the press release.TNA here i come:hyper:


couple of questions.

1)how long is an epsiode of Impact on Spike ?

2)DO you think they will start carrying the PPV's ?

3)if the DVD's start being released here what ones would you recommend ?

[Twitch]

WOOOOHHOHOOOOO!!!!! just read the press release.TNA here i come:hyper:


couple of questions.

1)how long is an epsiode of Impact on Spike ?

2)DO you think they will start carrying the PPV's ?

3)if the DVD's start being released here what ones would you recommend ?

an hour

No clue

Best of AJ Styles (I would've gotten that if RVD wasn't calling my name :o ) If you're a hardcore fan get best of Raven :up:

[TheVileOne]

WOOOOHHOHOOOOO!!!!! just read the press release.TNA here i come:hyper:


couple of questions.

1)how long is an epsiode of Impact on Spike ?

46 minutes w/o commercials.


2)DO you think they will start carrying the PPV's ?

Not sure how it works in the UK. Its my understanding that they get the PPV's 5 weeks later for free...or something like that.


3)if the DVD's start being released here what ones would you recommend ?

Must Owns:

Simply Phenomenal: The Best Of AJ Styles
Nevermore: The Best Of Raven
The Ultimate X Collection
Best Of The X Division matches
Final Resolution
Lockdown

[Twitch]

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Must Owns:

Simply Phenomenal: The Best Of AJ Styles
Nevermore: The Best Of Raven
The Ultimate X Collection
Best Of The X Division matches
Final Resolution
Lockdown

IMO he should get that DVD set for 65 dollars :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks for the advice guys:up:

interesting about the PPV's 5 weeks later Vile

These 2 here:

Final Resolution
Lockdown

are they both from this last year ?

[Twitch]

Thanks for the advice guys:up:

interesting about the PPV's 5 weeks later Vile

These 2 here:

Final Resolution
Lockdown

are they both from this last year ?

Lockdown was earlier this year and I have no clue about FR :confused:

[TheVileOne]

Final Resolution was from January of this year.

Lockdown was from April.

[Hunter Rider]

Final Resolution was from January of this year.

Lockdown was from April.

Whats the headline matches from those events ?

[LastSunrise1981]

It looks like WWE and TNA will be competing in some form. With Smackdown being on Friday nights now, then TNA being on Saturday, it'll be somewhat of a ratings battle, though nothing like the Monday Night Wars for a while.

Can't wait till October 1st. :up: I've waited for this day for a long time, now we no longer have to put up with the WWE's crap product.

[TheVileOne]

Whats the headline matches from those events ?

Final Resolution - Jeff Jarrett vs. Monty Brown, Ultimate X 6

Lockdown - AJ Styles vs. Abyss, Christopher Daniels vs. Elix Skipper

Every match on Lockdown is a Six Sides of Steel Cage match.

[Colossal Spoons]

Can't wait till October 1st. :up: I've waited for this day for a long time, now we no longer have to put up with the WWE's crap product.

October 3rd will be a MUCH better day. The Night of Champions! :up::up:

[Hunter Rider]

Final Resolution - Jeff Jarrett vs. Monty Brown, Ultimate X 6

Lockdown - AJ Styles vs. Abyss, Christopher Daniels vs. Elix Skipper

Every match on Lockdown is a Six Sides of Steel Cage match.

Sounds great:up:
I saw some highlights of a Styles/Abyss match and it looked amazing

[Hunter Rider]

October 3rd will be a MUCH better day. The Night of Champions! :up::up:

Thats the RAW back on spike thing right ?

[Colossal Spoons]

USA, 3 hours long. It's gonna be great.

[Hunter Rider]

USA, 3 hours long. It's gonna be great.
It has the return of HHH and an appearence from Hogan along with the crap theyve been showing for the last few weeks,and The Rock isnt gonna be there,im not excited at all

[Colossal Spoons]

Stone Cold and Mick Foley are showing up too. I'm praying that The Rock shows up, it'd be a shame if he didn't.

Cena/Angle is looking like one of the best arcs they've had on RAW in a while though.

[LastSunrise1981]

It has the return of HHH and an appearence from Hogan along with the crap theyve been showing for the last few weeks,and The Rock isnt gonna be there,im not excited at all

So we get an hour of Ego H rambling on about he's the greatest.

An extra hour of Hogan posing and rambling on.

Then another hour of diva search, backstage segments, and short championship matches? I'll pass.

[Hunter Rider]

Stone Cold and Mick Foley are showing up too. I'm praying that The Rock shows up, it'd be a shame if he didn't.

Cena/Angle is looking like one of the best arcs they've had on RAW in a while though.
Still not a big fan of these shows where guys from the past take up all the airtime
Cena/Angle is going well i have to admit,it's the only good feud on RAW right now except Hardy/Edge which is running out of steam fast

[Hunter Rider]

So we get an hour of Ego H rambling on about he's the greatest.

An extra hour of Hogan posing and rambling on.

Then another hour of diva search, backstage segments, and short championship matches? I'll pass.

Actually out of the ones coming back HHH is the only one i want to see:(
Hogan and Austin may lay some ground work for there possible WM22 match *Yawns*:(

[Colossal Spoons]

So we get an hour of Ego H rambling on about he's the greatest.

An extra hour of Hogan posing and rambling on.

Then another hour of diva search, backstage segments, and short championship matches? I'll pass.

So you're just not going to watch it? It's quite possibly the most superstar-packed RAW....ever. I never miss a RAW/SD even when WWE is going through a boredom spell.

[TheVileOne]

I'm not going to watch it.

WWE can barely fill up two hours, let alone 3.

[Jason Blood]

I hope to god that when their secondary shows get cancelled, they know how to fill up the two hours with other wrestlers

letting go of the secondary wrestlers would be a terrible idea, unless they turn them into dark matches or something

[Jason Blood]

I think they need to put Matt Hardy back on Smackdown after he's done with Edge

Kane needs to be put on Smackdown sometime too

[jackcool]

So you're just not going to watch it? It's quite possibly the most superstar-packed RAW....ever. I never miss a RAW/SD even when WWE is going through a boredom spell.

Yeah, me neither. Well except for Smackdown sometimes, but that's because I know most of the results beforehand :o :(

[jackcool]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=43421

Yeah, this is from another message board, but egads. You have to read some of this :eek: :eek:

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=43421

Yeah, this is from another message board, but egads. You have to read some of this :eek: :eek:

LMAO a lot of that sounds like total BS particuarly Macho and Steph :D

[jackcool]

I dunno, a lot of crazy **** does happen in the locker room. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if Steph was really that crazy.

[Hunter Rider]

I dunno, a lot of crazy **** does happen in the locker room. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if Steph was really that crazy.

lol it's just so hard to believe alot of it,the crap in the corn sounds possible but some of it sounds like an overactive imagination

[jackcool]

A lot of that stuff though I've heard about in some shape or form. A lot of the gay stuff does seem a bit out there, but then again you're talking about a sport in which guys grease themselves up and tussle with each other while wearing tights ;)

I have a feeling though that 80 percent of the stuff there is probably lies. But there's about 400 things on that list. If even 20 percent of that stuff is true, that's quite a bit right there...

[Hunter Rider]

A lot of that stuff though I've heard about in some shape or form. A lot of the gay stuff does seem a bit out there, but then again you're talking about a sport in which guys grease themselves up and tussle with each other while wearing tights ;)

I have a feeling though that 80 percent of the stuff there is probably lies. But there's about 400 things on that list. If even 20 percent of that stuff is true, that's quite a bit right there...

they seem to have a strange pissing on women fetish:confused:
I honeslty think Macho would be dead if Vince found out that though

[jackcool]

Not if that's a common occurence with Steph though :o
And yeah, the pissing does seem a bit odd, but these are weird guys....

With Macho, he hasn't been in the WWE since 1994. When the alleged sexual assault happened. And this is after Vince brought back basically everyone else not named "Warrior"

[Hunter Rider]

Not if that's a common occurence with Steph though :o
And yeah, the pissing does seem a bit odd, but these are weird guys....

With Macho, he hasn't been in the WWE since 1994. When the alleged sexual assault happened. And this is after Vince brought back basically everyone else not named "Warrior"

That is a good point:eek:
what about Steph and her Strap on with Austin and HHH and Snuka killing his wife while Vince covered for him ? LOL

[jackcool]

Yeah, the strap-on thing is a bit out-there. Especially with Austin involved....

But I heard about the Snuka thing before. Or Snuka "accidentally" killing someone. I also heard that it was one of the reasons why he never was WWF champion......

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, the strap-on thing is a bit out-there. Especially with Austin involved....

But I heard about the Snuka thing before. Or Snuka "accidentally" killing someone. I also heard that it was one of the reasons why he never was WWF champion......

realy i'd never heard that.some of this stuff is crazy,i can believe the stuuf about Tammy and Austin Attacking Raven cos of his huge wang:(

[jackcool]

Well Tammy had a huge reputation has being a crack whore in her ECW-WCW days. And it really did show. She looked like **** in WCW.

And I always say Austin as being pretty protective....and abusive :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Well Tammy had a huge reputation has being a crack whore in her ECW-WCW days. And it really did show. She looked like **** in WCW.

And I always say Austin as being pretty protective....and abusive :confused:

did you read the one about Francine and Raven ? she always seemed the slutty type but poor cow:(

[jackcool]

Yeah. Raven is a bit of a lunatic....:confused: :(

That seems to be a common occurence with every single wrestler though....:o

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah. Raven is a bit of a lunatic....:confused: :(

That seems to be a common occurence with every single wrestler though....:o
well he lives his gimmick:o
Man i love the Hogan nickname "the Tampa Pipeline" LOL
HAcksaw had poor taste:(

[Hunter Rider]

407. TNA pitched to Macho Man the idea of a worked shoot angle/feud with Lex on the basis that he killed Elizabeth, basically.

I wonder if there is any truth in this or the one about the reason Raven got shafted by WWE is cos he corrupted Shane and Steph

[Savage]

...wow...just how do these things get started?

[jackcool]

I wonder if there is any truth in this or the one about the reason Raven got shafted by WWE is cos he corrupted Shane and Steph

Could be. During that time, Vince Russo was the writer (I think) and that guy made some of the most ****ed up storylines.

Honestly, a lot of this stuff could explain why a lot of wrestlers got **** on.....

[jackcool]

...wow...just how do these things get started?

A lot of this could be second-hand information. Like a wrestler tells someone who tells someone else. I'm betting a lot of the stuff could be just stories just blown entirely out of proportion.

It really makes you think though about some wrestlers the next time you see them on tv.....:o

[jackcool]

**** :(

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=12625

[NDX]

One of the best reads in a while for me.

[punishermax]

I still have no idea why they would have Jarrett win the title now. I know they want a big face to have a title for the Spike debut but Jeff Jarrett was a champion in WCW in its darkest days so I don't know why they think it would be a great idea.

[NDX]

**** :(

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboard.php?news_id=12625

And now I feel sick to my stomach.

[punishermax]

Well I guess thats what happens when you own the company, I do like the idea of AMW turning heel

[angelus777]

And now I feel sick to my stomach.
looks like we found Ego J!!!!

[Hunter Rider]

I see the news has broke about Jarrett:(

I wonder what program they have in mind for a JJ feud to draw ratings ?

[Hunter Rider]

Could be. During that time, Vince Russo was the writer (I think) and that guy made some of the most ****ed up storylines.

Honestly, a lot of this stuff could explain why a lot of wrestlers got **** on.....

Yeah,I think there is probably some truths floating amongst all the overblown fantasy stuff

[BlackSymbiote]

Well, while I'm not too keen about Jarrett having the belt again, it's good to see that the NWA Title can change hands anywhere, especially since it's the only true WORLD Heavyweight Title wrestling has.

[Hunter Rider]

Well, while I'm not too keen about Jarrett having the belt again, it's good to see that the NWA Title can change hands anywhere, especially since it's the only true WORLD Heavyweight Title wrestling has.

I wouldn't say that,I think Cena is improving a lot and when Angle gets the belt it's worth will be back up there again

[Colossal Spoons]

70. Andre The Giant once called Kamala a n****r and Kamala stuck a gun to his face. Andre was nice to Kamala after that.

Hahahaha, wow. Great site.

[TheVileOne]

The Jeff Jarrett thing just depresses me.

[Twitch]

The Jeff Jarrett thing just depresses me.

Remember he's nowhere near HHH level of politics...I want Sabu or Jeff to win the title actually

[TheVileOne]

He kind of is since he sort of runs the show with his daddy.

I hope you don't mean Jeff Hardy.

Sabu isn't going to win the world title anytime soon.

They should be giving it to Monty Brown, Abyss, or Christopher Daniels.