Wrestling

[Twitch]

He kind of is since he sort of runs the show with his daddy.

I hope you don't mean Jeff Hardy.

Sabu isn't going to win the world title anytime soon.

They should be giving it to Monty Brown, Abyss, or Christopher Daniels.

Abyss should win it...what's wrong with Jeff? :confused:

[jackcool]

Well I guess thats what happens when you own the company, I do like the idea of AMW turning heel

Yeah, it was really the only possible option with the team though besides breaking up. AMW has basically done everything as a face tag team. It's a refreshing change now that they're heel....

[jackcool]

He kind of is since he sort of runs the show with his daddy.

I hope you don't mean Jeff Hardy.

Sabu isn't going to win the world title anytime soon.

They should be giving it to Monty Brown, Abyss, or Christopher Daniels.

To be honest, I'd rather they just keep Daniels in the X-division for now with AJ.

Besides, there are plenty of heavyweights that can still win the title - The aforementioned Brown and Abyss, Ron Killings, Raven, Lance Hoyt.....

[LastSunrise1981]

I wouldn't say that,I think Cena is improving a lot and when Angle gets the belt it's worth will be back up there again

Only for Ego H to win it and grace us with 30 minute promos again. :o

Everyone knows Cena and Angle will keep the belt warm, then big nosed H will win it and hold it for another year, only to let either HBK or another one of his buddies pin him for it.

[Jason Blood]

I really think it's utter BS that Double J won the title in a non-televised match

SERIOUSLY

[jackcool]

I really think it's utter BS that Double J won the title in a non-televised match

SERIOUSLY

The only reason I could see Jarrett winning the title is if they're trying to build up a feud with him and Monty Brown. Which looks like it with some of the stuff that has happened the past few weeks.

[Hunter Rider]

Only for Ego H to win it and grace us with 30 minute promos again. :o

Everyone knows Cena and Angle will keep the belt warm, then big nosed H will win it and hold it for another year, only to let either HBK or another one of his buddies pin him for it.

I don't think so,i know you got a dislike for HHH but i think it's more likely Angle will win it and run with it to WM22

[BlackSymbiote]

I wouldn't say that,I think Cena is improving a lot and when Angle gets the belt it's worth will be back up there again

What I meant by true World Heavyweight Title was that it's the only belt defended and lost in other countries on a regular basis and is also held by wrestling of various nationalities.

The NWA title has been held by more wrestlers than just those in the NWA.

The WWE World Heavyweight Title is World in name only, as no one outside the WWE has ever held the belt, even when it was in WCW. It's a company title, not a World Title.

[punishermax]

Abyss should win it...what's wrong with Jeff? :confused:

Abyss could be a good champ, but Jeff is a different thing, numerous reasons why he shouldn't be champ are listed here:
1. Inconsistent, meaning sometimes his matches are good then again some aren't.
2. Lazy, this goes along with #1, since he left WWE and even sometimes when he was in WWE he just looked laz in the ring, his match with Bobby Roode at Unbreakable, was a decent match, it would've been better but Hardy just looked like he wasn't trying half the time. Also he is known for no showing.....a lot.
3. Drug Problem, is he clean now, yes, but then again a lot of people relapse and if I was running TNA, I wouldn't give the belt to someone who may no show because he is off doing drugs.
4. There are more deserving people, there are more wrestlers in TNA that are deserving of the NWA title, Brown, Abyss, (eventhough I don't want the next three to move to the Heavyweight) AJ, Daniels, Joe, hell I would rather see Petey be champ.

There you go, 4 very good reasons why Jeff Hardy should never be a world champ.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow! To all that watched Smackdown, that fake Undertaker was nuts. Either there's a really good make-up artist workin for WWE, a really good look-alike, or I'm seeing things.

[hotrain33]

I wonder why that casket was brought in to the feud between taker and orton. It seems to me that this battle has run it's course . But then again look how they draged the rey vs eddie feud for four months. As far as tna is concerned Jarret is the new ego h. He can't stay out of the spotlight not even for his company to be considered a top organization as the wwe.

[punishermax]

Jarrett isn't the new HHH (I hate how most of you people hate HHH) HHH politics for the title but Jarrett owns the company, and HHH has every reason to be in the title picture he is the top or one of the top performers in the WWE, as to where Jarrett isn't even in the top 15-20 of TNA.

[TheVileOne]

How about reason number 5 punishermax, Jeff Hardy ****ing NO SHOWED a PPV!

**** Jeff Hardy. And **** him being in the world title picture.

Also, HHH sucks. I bet when he comes back he's going to get right back into the world title picture and probably get it handed to him.

[Colossal Spoons]

Also, HHH sucks. I bet when he comes back he's going to get right back into the world title picture and probably get it handed to him.

I wouldn't bet against you. Hopefully angle gets it sometime soon though.

[punishermax]

How about reason number 5 punishermax, Jeff Hardy ****ing NO SHOWED a PPV!

**** Jeff Hardy. And **** him being in the world title picture.

Also, HHH sucks. I bet when he comes back he's going to get right back into the world title picture and probably get it handed to him.

With the exception of the HHH comment I agree with you on the **** Jeff Hardy comment. His matches were exciting 6 years ago but now he is just lazy and doesn't care.

[punishermax]

With HHH, do I think he should always be in the title picture...no. Do I think more people should be involved with the title.....yes. Am I going to hate HHH because (no pun intended) he plays the game better than anyone...no. Look at the last three months on Raw since HHH has been gone, they've been extremely boring, now is it the writers watering the show down so when HHH does come back that he seems like the best wrestler in the world, maybe, or is it the fact that the whole summer had Jericho jobbing to Cena, and Michaels jobbing to Hogan and the fact that the two major angles on Raw had no excitement, maybe, (don't get me started on Hardy/Edge it got old fast, and I mean really fast) but I think the reason it sucked this summer was because one the best wrestlers on Raw (VileOne you can say he sucks but when comes down to it he can wrestle) wasn't on t.v. Could this summer have been better without HHH, yeah of course, I thought it would be refreshing without HHH for a while, with Angle on the show now, and Jericho getting a push, it could've been great but it wasn't, because none of the angles had any atmosphere to them other than the stench of WWE's feces. Could Raw have been better without HHH, yeah, but will it be a hell of a lot better with him, I like to think so.
Damn, that was long.

[White_Howling]

With the exception of the HHH comment I agree with you on the **** Jeff Hardy comment. His matches were exciting 6 years ago but now he is just lazy and doesn't care.


yeah he just got too lazy.. it seems like he just goes throught the motions now.. kind of sad really.. he really had some mad talent

[NDX]

I was actually disappointed when TNA brought in Jeff Hardy to begin with. Just seemed like it could backfire, and has on occassion. He really has failed to impress.

[Hunter Rider]

What I meant by true World Heavyweight Title was that it's the only belt defended and lost in other countries on a regular basis and is also held by wrestling of various nationalities.

The NWA title has been held by more wrestlers than just those in the NWA.

The WWE World Heavyweight Title is World in name only, as no one outside the WWE has ever held the belt, even when it was in WCW. It's a company title, not a World Title.

I see where you are coming from:up:
I was meaning that the best in the buissness is usualy recognized by being WWE champ,there are some exceptions obviously

[BlackSymbiote]

I see where you are coming from:up:
I was meaning that the best in the buissness is usualy recognized by being WWE champ,there are some exceptions obviously

I just wish the wrestlers in the WWE could showcase their talent more. Almost everyone in that fed are A list wrestling talent, yet WWE policy has them plodding through matches and throwing more punches than a UFC fight. Vince, for whatever reason, would rather have his wrestlers act like smaller, less talented versions of the Big Show.

[BlackSymbiote]

Oh, and speaking of which, I went to a local hobby store last night and I found a WWE roleplaying game! Not the card game, but a dice rolling RPG game.

It was 40 bucks for the rulebook so I didn't buy. I really wanted to though.

[Hunter Rider]

I just wish the wrestlers in the WWE could showcase their talent more. Almost everyone in that fed are A list wrestling talent, yet WWE policy has them plodding through matches and throwing more punches than a UFC fight. Vince, for whatever reason, would rather have his wrestlers act like smaller, less talented versions of the Big Show.

I agree,the tendancy towards dumb brawling is tiresome and the guys that are there are capable of so much better if they didnt have to keep carrying crap,like masters,Snitsky and to a lesser extent Carlito
PPl like HBk,Angle,Shelton,Eddie,Oryon,Christian etc can make great matches if they were allowed to work properly,
some matches are still good but the turn towards the more plodding style is to accomidate some of these new green guys they have pushed to early

[Jason Blood]

I can't believe they decided to give Rey Mysterio even worse music

[jackcool]

I was actually disappointed when TNA brought in Jeff Hardy to begin with. Just seemed like it could backfire, and has on occassion. He really has failed to impress.

And what's scary is that TNA might actually have a Jarrett-Hardy title feud to start out on TNA for the recognizability factor....:(

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't believe Teddy Long was gona annouce Rey as the #1 contender...what a joke.

[Twitch]

I can't believe Teddy Long was gona annouce Rey as the #1 contender...what a joke.

WTF are you crazy? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

WTF are you crazy? :confused:
I second this ,Rey rocks ,i would much rather see him as chmp than Dave"3moves" Batista

[Twitch]

I second this ,Rey rocks ,i would much rather see him as chmp than Dave"3moves" Batista

Its amazing Rey can work in the ring without using the top rope :up:
(that new rule) Eddie still rocks through :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I second this ,Rey rocks ,i would much rather see him as chmp than Dave"3moves" Batista

Them's fightin words....you turkey!

Eddie is so much more deserving of the #1 contender spot than Rey. Rey will NEVER hold the championship belt. His best shot is cruiserweight or IC.

[Colossal Spoons]

Its amazing Rey can work in the ring without using the top rope :up:
(that new rule) Eddie still rocks through :up:

Elaborate please?

[Hunter Rider]

Its amazing Rey can work in the ring without using the top rope :up:
(that new rule) Eddie still rocks through :up:
new top rope rule ?

[Twitch]

new top rope rule ?

meant the rule that London complained about.

[Hunter Rider]

meant the rule that London complained about.

oh the high risk stuff getting pulled back,i think from what Vince said that is just for the CW until they build personas,Rey i think is allowed to do what he wants

[Twitch]

oh the high risk stuff getting pulled back,i think from what Vince said that is just for the CW until they build personas,Rey i think is allowed to do what he wants

Oh :confused:

cool :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I guess we can forget about the Cruiserweight division EVER becoming like the X-Division? :down:

[jackcool]

Was there really a chance of that happening anyways? The CW division has a set weight limit, which does severely limit the number of wrestlers that can wrestle there. As far as I know, the X-division doesn't have any set weight limit.....

[TheVileOne]

Its not about weight limits. Its about NO LIMITS!

[Twitch]

Its not about weight limits. Its about NO LIMITS!

Did they say that line in Joe's debut match? :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Was there really a chance of that happening anyways? The CW division has a set weight limit, which does severely limit the number of wrestlers that can wrestle there. As far as I know, the X-division doesn't have any set weight limit.....

Yeah but you kinda have to be a certain weight to pull of most of the X-Division's high flying moves. You saw what happened when Brock Lesnar attempted something as simple as a shooting star press.(Simple for a wrestler I mean, I sure as heck couldn't do one)

[jackcool]

Its not about weight limits. Its about NO LIMITS!

Exactly. If the CW division were like the X-division, we would be seeing Nova (not Simon Dean :mad: ) or Shelton Benjamin or RVD wrestling in it...

[jackcool]

Yeah but you kinda have to be a certain weight to pull of most of the X-Division's high flying moves. You saw what happened when Brock Lesnar attempted something as simple as a shooting star press.(Simple for a wrestler I mean, I sure as heck couldn't do one)

Guys like Shelton Benjamin or RVD could pull off doing some high flying moves and they're not exactly lightweights.........

[Colossal Spoons]

^^Very true. Shelton scares me sometimes. He's barely pulled off so many risky moves.

[Twitch]

Exactly. If the CW division were like the X-division, we would be seeing Nova (not Simon Dean :mad: ) or Shelton Benjamin or RVD wrestling in it...

If RVD really cares about wrestling he should jump ships to TNA and have rematches with Sabu and Lynn. Fuend with Styles....:eek: Shelton should follow too.

Bring Back the Whole ****ing Show gimmick and Bill Alfonso :up:

[jackcool]

If RVD really cares about wrestling he should jump ships to TNA and have rematches with Sabu and Lynn. Fuend with Styles....:eek: Shelton should follow too.

Bring Back the Whole ****ing Show gimmick and Bill Alfonso :up:

Except most of them care more about the paycheck than the wrestling......

[Twitch]

Except most of them care more about the paycheck than the wrestling......

:(:down

[jackcool]

It's true though. Besides, guys like RVD are still over huge with the fans, and if the WWE wishes to bury them, it's the WWE that's paying him a ****load of money to just do nothing. Why wouldn't he take that?

[Twitch]

It's true though. Besides, guys like RVD are still over huge with the fans, and if the WWE wishes to bury them, it's the WWE that's paying him a ****load of money to just do nothing. Why wouldn't he take that?

Good Point, I want RVD to win the title at least once :(

[TheVileOne]

RVD's never going to win the title in WWE.

[LastSunrise1981]

RVD's never going to win the title in WWE.

He was to beat Jericho for the Undisputed Championship and we all know who stood against that idea. :down

He also was to beat you know who for the title, but instead someone whined and complained to his wife, which resulted in RVD getting buried and lost in the mix. :down

[Colossal Spoons]

Pays to bang the boss' daughter...

[TheVileOne]

RVD has had nothing but mid-card hell for the better part of 3 years.

[punishermax]

I don't think WWE and RVD mix anymore, or should I say ever, he should go to TNA go someplace where he'll be utilized.

[punishermax]

Okay, so I'm sitting down tonight watching Smackdown when M-N-M comes out and Michael Coles says quote "These two hang out with the likes of Paris Hilton and...Keanu Reeves." He said freaking Keanu Reeves....what the ****!!!???

[NDX]

Its not about weight limits. Its about NO LIMITS!

When I first heard that I wanted to punch Mike Tenay through my television. And then Don West for being a loud piece of ****. He's not as loud now, but I still find him to be a piece of ****.

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com

If being manhandled in negotiations for his match with Hogan was not upsetting enough, Shawn Michaels' learning that Chris Masters was to be his next opponent did the trick. As has been reported, Michaels chewed out the creative team in a backstage meeting for not having a better plan for his post-Hogan storyline.

What was not initially reported, however, is that Michaels later apologized to each member of the creative team for his actions. While the yelling was reflective of the old Shawn Michaels, his apologizing reflects his increased morality after being reborn.

As with the Hogan storyline, Michaels is once again being praised for working through the negative thoughts associated with the angle.

[Hunter Rider]

Partial Source: The Observer

Although there is the possibility of a WWE title change tonight, many insiders expect a disputed finish to setup a rematch in six weeks. This feud is scheduled to go for quite some time and it should be one of Cena's best matches to date.

The Edge-Matt Hardy feud is not scheduled to end tonight and given the recent direction on RAW, it appears Matt Hardy will get the upper hand tonight.

Chris Masters vs. HBK has been very good on house shows. The finish of this one will be interesting as Masters has never lost a TV/PPV match.

The going plan was for Ric Flair to win the IC title tonight. Flair is normally one to put over younger talent but the storyline is based off Flair never having won the title.

Ashley Massaro & Trish Stratus vs. Victoria & Torrie Wilson should be kept short but they've gone long with Women's matches on PPV before so we'll see.

[TheVileOne]

I really don't care about this show tonight at all.

Most of the matches are pretty indicative of how much WWE is in the toilet right now.

Also, off topic, anyone know what KMC is?

[Colossal Spoons]

Vile, you're quite the fickle wrestling fan huh? I understand you don't think the WWE is putting on it's best performance right now but you can't turn your back on Vince like that. :(

[TheVileOne]

Sorry Colossal Spoons. I gave up on WWE earlier this year, and it doesn't look like I am going back anytime soon.

I didn't turn my back on Vince McMahon. He turned his back on me.

The current product is symbolic of that. And giving us crappy PPV's like the one tonight, which aren't even better than typical free episodes of RAW.

[jackcool]

Flair has won the IC championship. Although it really doesn't do much for the title, it is good that Flair has finally won the title. I hope it's only a temporary thing though :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome. I knew Carlito would lose.

[Savage]

SWEET MUTHAF**KIN' JESUS H. CHRIST!!! PLEASE TELL ME YOU GUYS SAW THAT LEG DROP!!! JUSTICE!!!:eek::D:up::up::up::up::D

God, this match alone is worth the price. That was justice right there.

[Jason Blood]

Flair has won the IC championship. Although it really doesn't do much for the title, it is good that Flair has finally won the title. I hope it's only a temporary thing though :up:
I've been wishing that trips would do something with the IC title...

[Jason Blood]

Matt F'ing won

THANK GOD

if only Kurt Angle would win the damn title :(

[Savage]

AND a Hurricane match! :D Sweet!
So far the matches have actually been damn entertaining. TNA is really startin to light the fire under their asses.

[Colossal Spoons]

How sick was this leg drop? I wish I'd ordered it.

[jackcool]

I've been wishing that trips would do something with the IC title...

Hunter did have a run with the IC title back in 2002, when he beat Jeff Hardy for it. It wasn't that good. He's way beyond IC title material at this moment and Triple H beating him for the IC title was one of the reasons why Hardy got lazy/lost his "love of wrestling".....

[Savage]

Top. Of. The. Cage. I mean a loud slap/thud sound that frickin echoed. They had to show like 4 replays of it. The whole match itself was sweet. I mean a spear into the cage, Lita getting the twist of fate, Edge getting caught on the ropes and getting his ass handed to him and then being slammed on all 4 sides till he was bleeding and then getting his head repeatedly kicked in. I can go on. The match just frickin rocked!

Hurricane lost. =\ His entire left side just stopped functioning after he was DDT'd from inside the ring to the outside. They tried to get him out but he came back to the ring and was fighting entirely with his right side alone and got double teamed by Cade and whatshisface and they got the one two three...Match was hella entertaining though. These guys pulled all the stops.

HBK and Masterpiece now.

[Colossal Spoons]

Does it look like the Edge/Matt fued will be ending soon? Or will Edge take a week off and come back to RAW pissed off and ready to continue?

[punishermax]

Michaels won

[Savage]

Does it look like the Edge/Matt fued will be ending soon? Or will Edge take a week off and come back to RAW pissed off and ready to continue?
I'm pretty sure this match put a huge period on this whole deal. It's over. Lita even looked a little remorseful because she was responsible for all of this.

[Savage]

Michaels won
And awesomely might I add. :D

[Savage]

UGH! Cena's doing the faces again. :(

[punishermax]

Angle won by DQ

[TheVileOne]

Once again, ****ty DQ finish for the main event.

And everyone thought Angle was going to win :p .

[Colossal Spoons]

Angle's definately winning that belt before or at the next PPV.

[TheVileOne]

Whatever. I bet Cena will win their rematch at No Mercy.

From what I hear the show sucked outside of the cage match.

Poor Shelton Benjamin.

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been hearing quite the opposite. Angle's long overdue for the belt and he's been on some roll lately.

Why poor Shelton?

[jackcool]

Angle's definately winning that belt before or at the next PPV.

As much as I would love for that to happen, I just doubt it'll happen now. It seems like they're really set on Cena having an extended title reign :(

[NDX]

A ****ing disqualification? That's an ending for RAW or Smackdown! not a payperview! This is why I only buy WrestleMania each year. The shows are never worth one match.

Which is why I can never go to a RAW or Smackdown! taping or house show. Just not enough good matches per show.

[Savage]

Poor Shelton Benjamin.
Actually, both Shelton and Chavo put on a pretty good show...Then again, this is after me being used to watching Triple H wrestle...God were those slow.

[Colossal Spoons]

A ****ing disqualification? That's an ending for RAW or Smackdown! not a payperview! This is why I only buy WrestleMania each year. The shows are never worth one match.

Which is why I can never go to a RAW or Smackdown! taping or house show. Just not enough good matches per show.

I went to Summerslam and that was F'in awesome...

[TheVileOne]

Actually, both Shelton and Chavo put on a pretty good show...Then again, this is after me being used to watching Triple H wrestle...God were those slow.

They deserve a lot better. And Chavo is stuck with one of the stupidest and most demeaning gimmicks ever.

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

Wrestling as a whole has really gone down the drain. A big part of the problem is that there's no more competition between big companies because there's only one. Another is that they've exausted their stories and gimmics, and the matches are about all the same now. Little excitement, and you're lucky if it actually ends. I haven't watched it in years now. Really started losing interest when Bret Hart quit. Turns out I was never really a wrestling fan, just a Hitman fan.

Yea I to am a Hitman fan, and stopped watching for the most part right after he retired, and have only seen a handfull of Raw episodes since, and only recently watched a few shows cause Hogan has been back... The whole thing with owen seemed a bit fishy to me, and the WWE has just never been the same.
The storylines are stale now, and the new wrestlers they have brought in the last few years have been very boring...
Kurt Angle is about the funniest person on the whole WWE Roster but he isn't given enough time to be funny on tv.
That could help with the quality of the show... The last really great angle I remember in the wwe was when Angle was with Stone Cold, and they were working for Vince... I like how Hogan comes in, and wrestles once in a while I would love to see Hitman back in the wwe even if its as a manager or something.
Maybe if Hitman would come back id watch it a bit more but either way now a days I only watch it to see Hulkamania run wild brother! :eek: :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

As much as I would love for that to happen, I just doubt it'll happen now. It seems like they're really set on Cena having an extended title reign :(

Some guy who's returning on Oct 3 has something to say about that. :(

[Metamorpho1977]

yeah, Chavo's character is anticaucasian.

[Colossal Spoons]

Some guy who's returning on Oct 3 has something to say about that. :(

Please explain. You know something we don't know? Got a source? :)

[Bad Superman]

Please explain. You know something we don't know? Got a source? :)

He's referring to He Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned. . . . The Master of Roster Burial, The Boss's Daughter's Boy Toy, Nose King Supreme, Modern Day Ric Flair Wanna Be, The Count of Monte Ego, The Most Overpushed Heel in Decades, God Complex Guy, The One, The Only:

TRIPLE H

[Super Kal]

WTF is up with RAW being only an hour long tonight?

[punishermax]

WTF is up with RAW being only an hour long tonight?

It says its 2 hours long on my t.v.

[jackcool]

So....Vince is set to make another "major announcement" tonight on Raw. Could the announcement be the move of Raw back to USA? :confused:

[Colossal Spoons]

It'll probably be something more important than that....I hope.

[Super Kal]

i go to www.tvguide.com and it says it's only on for one hour

[Colossal Spoons]

2 hours for me.

[jackcool]

It'll probably be something more important than that....I hope.

Yeah, but really, the big announcements by Vince usually end up being nothing more than a wimper. Besides, announcing that Raw is going back to USA might be considered home because they could market it as "Raw going back to it's original network".

[Colossal Spoons]

Well now Bischoff has an announcement too...

[Colossal Spoons]

ok, guess Vince isn' gonna say anything new. :down:

[TheVileOne]

What did you expect?

I knew it was going to be nothing special.

Cena vs. Bischoff on RAW? Umm no.

[jackcool]

Yeah, so Matt Hardy is going to Smackdown in two weeks time.....

[NDX]

Remind me not to watch Raw Homecoming in 2 weeks.

[jackcool]

Hey, the Hardy-Edge ladder match might be worth watching. Although, it's fairly obvious who's going to win the match.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, so Matt Hardy is going to Smackdown in two weeks time.....

Pretty much, that was a good way to force the feud to end.

[jackcool]

Yeah. Plus, it allows Hardy to compete in the US division, which could use a few more wrestlers in it. A Hardy-Christian feud could be pretty cool :up:

[White_Howling]

where da hell did Kane gooo?

[TheVileOne]

Kane went back to mid-card hell limbo where he belongs :D .

[NDX]

Okay, after taping the Hardy/Edge Raw street fight and reading the reviews of the cage match (and that leg drop replay, which, even I have to admit, was a great spot) might be the only match worth watching. But the idea that WWE might give Bishoff the title (haven't we been through this storyline with McMahon already?) just makes me want to gouge my eyes out with sporks.

I'm still a Foley mark and even he doesn't make me want to watch the show. "Hacksaw" Jim Duggen does, though. Go figure. But then he is negated by Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin being there. So... looks like I'll be watching the Yankees game.

As for Kane, I believe it was knee surgery and he's rehabbing midsouth. Probably a good thing to have him off the air for a while. The character has fallen to quite a low point. Wasn't worth watching anymore. His most recent feuds were with Edge and Snitsky, and they were lacking in my opinion.

[Bad Superman]

WOW. . What a shocker. That major annoucement shocked the foundations of WWE and without a doubt will be a turning point in Pro Wrestling History:

Cena defends the WWE Championship against Bishoff. . . WOW. . .It can't get any better than that.

What's next? Coach getting an IC title shot and JR along with Jerry Lawler will get a shot at the Tag-Team titles??? GEEZ. . . .

[kane9321]

victoria looked so damn hot in that outfit..:)

[Colossal Spoons]

WOW. . What a shocker. That major annoucement shocked the foundations of WWE and without a doubt will be a turning point in Pro Wrestling History:

Cena defends the WWE Championship against Bishoff. . . WOW. . .It can't get any better than that.

What's next? Coach getting an IC title shot and JR along with Jerry Lawler will get a shot at the Tag-Team titles??? GEEZ. . . .

That announcement succeeded in rocking my socks completely off. :rolleyes:

[Goldenage Batman]

Did Paul Bearer die?...A guy just told me he died last June of 04...

[jackcool]

I don't think he did. All I know was that he got liposuction and looks very thin now....

[jackcool]

WOW. . What a shocker. That major annoucement shocked the foundations of WWE and without a doubt will be a turning point in Pro Wrestling History:

Cena defends the WWE Championship against Bishoff. . . WOW. . .It can't get any better than that.

What's next? Coach getting an IC title shot and JR along with Jerry Lawler will get a shot at the Tag-Team titles??? GEEZ. . . .

It's like Austin versus McMahon. How long will it be before Cena teams up with Bischoff? :confused: :(

And after watching Raw last night, I realize what it is I don't like about Cena now. When he makes his entrance, he walks out like a spazzoid :mad:

[Jason Blood]

Kerwin White has a "caddie" now

his name is Nick Nemeth

[punishermax]

Nick Nemeth= #500 in the PWI 500.

[Savage]

haha. Just caught Luther Reigns in "The Girl Next Door". I love it when wrestlers make totally random cameos. :D

[BlackSymbiote]

Kerwin White has a "caddie" now

his name is Nick Nemeth

So much for Chavo's career.

[Colossal Spoons]

haha. Just caught Luther Reigns in "The Girl Next Door". I love it when wrestlers make totally random cameos. :D

Yeah, his cameo was great. "You wanna try out my girl?" lol

[TheVileOne]

haha. Just caught Luther Reigns in "The Girl Next Door". I love it when wrestlers make totally random cameos. :D
Not even a wrestler anymore, that's Luther Reigns.

[White_Howling]

Not even a wrestler anymore, that's Luther Reigns.


he was fired right?

[jackcool]

Quit to become a real estate agent apparently.

[3dman27]

WOW. . What a shocker. That major annoucement shocked the foundations of WWE and without a doubt will be a turning point in Pro Wrestling History:

Cena defends the WWE Championship against Bishoff. . . WOW. . .It can't get any better than that.

What's next? Coach getting an IC title shot and JR along with Jerry Lawler will get a shot at the Tag-Team titles??? GEEZ. . . .
lilian garcia vs trish stratus for the womens belt

[Bad Superman]

lilian garcia vs trish stratus for the womens belt

Oh. . . forgot about that one. :D

Maybe we'll get that line-up for Taboo Tuesday.

[punishermax]

Anyone see the new Ultimate Warrior dvd? Its quite funny just how much of a douche he is.

[punishermax]

Source: WWE.com

According to John Laurinaitis, Vice President of Talent Relations for World Wrestling Entertainment, Mark Copani, a.k.a. Muhammad Hassan, and WWE have decided to go their separate ways.

Copani, who was last seen at The Great American Bash in late-July, had nothing but positive remarks about his WWE experience in recent phone interview.

"I have a great appreciation for WWE and the way they treated me," said Copani. "Everybody took care of me even more than they ever had to. I have a great deal of gratitude for the McMahons, the people in the office and the boys in the locker room. I have absolutely no grievances in the way that everything played out. In fact, the split was very amicable. I just thought that it was in my best interest, as well as WWE's best interest, for us to go our separate ways."

With WWE now in his past, Copani is heading to Hollywood to pursue a career in acting. But does that mean WWE fans will never see the former Muhammad Hassan in a wrestling ring again?

"Wrestling is in my back pocket for now," admitted Copani. "Luckily, the door was left open for a return if that is what I wish to do in the future. And if that's something I wish to do, I know who to call."

[punishermax]

Also TNA confirmed the signing of the Dudleyz....ahhhh....I mean Team 3D

[jackcool]

Source: WWE.com

According to John Laurinaitis, Vice President of Talent Relations for World Wrestling Entertainment, Mark Copani, a.k.a. Muhammad Hassan, and WWE have decided to go their separate ways.

Copani, who was last seen at The Great American Bash in late-July, had nothing but positive remarks about his WWE experience in recent phone interview.

"I have a great appreciation for WWE and the way they treated me," said Copani. "Everybody took care of me even more than they ever had to. I have a great deal of gratitude for the McMahons, the people in the office and the boys in the locker room. I have absolutely no grievances in the way that everything played out. In fact, the split was very amicable. I just thought that it was in my best interest, as well as WWE's best interest, for us to go our separate ways."

With WWE now in his past, Copani is heading to Hollywood to pursue a career in acting. But does that mean WWE fans will never see the former Muhammad Hassan in a wrestling ring again?

"Wrestling is in my back pocket for now," admitted Copani. "Luckily, the door was left open for a return if that is what I wish to do in the future. And if that's something I wish to do, I know who to call."

Kinda sucks with him. He could've been a star in the WWE, but circumstances beyond his control managed to **** that up......

[Twitch]

Also TNA confirmed the signing of the Dudleyz....ahhhh....I mean Team 3D

Alright :up:

[jackcool]

It was kinda obvious after they turned AMW heel. Plus, the Dudleys can go for the one tag team title they haven't gotten yet.

[Twitch]

It was kinda obvious after they turned AMW heel. Plus, the Dudleys can go for the one tag team title they haven't gotten yet.

Good point, plus IMO they can pull more gimmick matches out of the tag division. I wonder if Spike is following...

[jackcool]

Doubt it.....

I think they might actually team up BG and Kip James though (finally), just so TNA can have a NAO-Dudleys feud :confused:

[Twitch]

Doubt it.....

I think they might actually team up BG and Kip James though (finally), just so TNA can have a NAO-Dudleys feud :confused:

that BG fuend was kind of crappy in the first place and I didn't even realize he was Road Dog for a while. :confused:

[jackcool]

I didn't like it because they spent months teasing and teasing and nothing came out of it. Blah, they should've just teamed up BG and Kip from the start. I'm not a huge fan of 3LK anyways. Ron Killings should be in the main event, not part of that group.

[Twitch]

I didn't like it because they spent months teasing and teasing and nothing came out of it. Blah, they should've just teamed up BG and Kip from the start. I'm not a huge fan of 3LK anyways. Ron Killings should be in the main event, not part of that group.

I haven't really seen alot of 3LK but I just find them annoying. I haven't seen any Killings matches. Is his wrestling style X division or Heavywight divison?

[jackcool]

Killings does a lot of moves like an X-division wrestler, but he's primarily heavyweight. Hell, he was like the second heavyweight champion for TNA.

[Savage]

Also TNA confirmed the signing of the Dudleyz....ahhhh....I mean Team 3D
SWEET! :D

[NDX]

Team 3D (GOD WHY?!) will add namesake to the tag team division. That's a good thing. A Team 3D (GOD WHY?!) America's Most Wanted feud would be the best way to introduce the team and then have them take the titles from The Naturals and then feud with the N.A.O.

I really miss Copani's in ring work. He had so much potential and knew how to make his character the most hated person on the planet. And I thought the storyline was really working out well. Unfortunately, due to poor timing, his career was killed.

Hope it works out for him. Or at least he will get back into a ring sooner than later.

[Colossal Spoons]

I really miss Copani's in ring work. He had so much potential and knew how to make his character the most hated person on the planet. And I thought the storyline was really working out well. Unfortunately, due to poor timing, his career was killed

No sir, that would be JBL.

[jackcool]

I really miss Copani's in ring work. He had so much potential and knew how to make his character the most hated person on the planet. And I thought the storyline was really working out well. Unfortunately, due to poor timing, his career was killed.

Hope it works out for him. Or at least he will get back into a ring sooner than later.

Yep. I felt that right when Hassan got kicked off Smackdown, his gimmick was finally clicking. And if they really did go ahead with what they wanted with that "Terrorist Cell" (that Hassan was going to reveal that the four masked men were really caucasians), it would've been a very interesting idea.

Davari, however, seems to still be around. He would be a good addition to the cruiserweight division actually :up:

[NDX]

Davari, however, seems to still be around. He would be a good addition to the cruiserweight division actually :up:

I completely agree. The few matches he had showed potential as well. I look forward to his return to the ring soon. They just need to develop a new character for him to work.

If Smackdown! still doesn't have a ban on him.

[jackcool]

Meh, I'm sure they could find their way around that. Just as long as he does his carpet ride finisher though :mad: :D

[NDX]

Is that what they called his top rope legdrop? Or was that a different move. I taped a few of his matches from Raw but I haven't gotten around to listing the track for those tapes yet. I never kept them in order, so I have no idea which one is which unless I actually work on the track list..

[TheVileOne]

I'm not going to miss Hassan.

And after that debacle, you really CAN'T just come back and get repackaged.

It was basically career suicide.

[punishermax]

TNA managment is also negotiating with Sean Waltman, and they plan to get a deal done this week that will prevent (HAHAHAHA!!!!!) future no shows.

[Bad Superman]

Source: WWE.com

According to John Laurinaitis, Vice President of Talent Relations for World Wrestling Entertainment, Mark Copani, a.k.a. Muhammad Hassan, and WWE have decided to go their separate ways.

Copani, who was last seen at The Great American Bash in late-July, had nothing but positive remarks about his WWE experience in recent phone interview.

"I have a great appreciation for WWE and the way they treated me," said Copani. "Everybody took care of me even more than they ever had to. I have a great deal of gratitude for the McMahons, the people in the office and the boys in the locker room. I have absolutely no grievances in the way that everything played out. In fact, the split was very amicable. I just thought that it was in my best interest, as well as WWE's best interest, for us to go our separate ways."

With WWE now in his past, Copani is heading to Hollywood to pursue a career in acting. But does that mean WWE fans will never see the former Muhammad Hassan in a wrestling ring again?

"Wrestling is in my back pocket for now," admitted Copani. "Luckily, the door was left open for a return if that is what I wish to do in the future. And if that's something I wish to do, I know who to call."

That sucks. This guy had a bright future. :(

[TheVileOne]

That sucks. This guy had a bright future. :(

Nope. I knew from the very start of the Hassan debacle it was going to end badly. Basically it was career suicide.

Lo and behold, I was right.

[jackcool]

TNA managment is also negotiating with Sean Waltman, and they plan to get a deal done this week that will prevent (HAHAHAHA!!!!!) future no shows.

pfftt...honestly, why even bother? It's not like Waltman is that big of a draw anyways. Most of the fans chant "X-pac sucks" because they're bored of him and his antics. It's just a waste of time and money to try and get him back....

[Wolfsbane]

That sucks. This guy had a bright future. :(
No way. He had no future at all. He sucked, and no one seemed to like him. IMO, WWE is better off without him.

[TheVileOne]

To hunter rider,

EuroSport is now showing the Best Of TNA Impact episodes.

Three matches announced for Bound For Glory:

Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles Iron Man Match II
Samoa "Jaw" Joe vs. Jushin Thunder Liger
Chris Sabin vs. Matt Bentley vs. Petey Williams in Ultimate X VIII

[Ultimate_Superman]

Does anyone know where I can find or download the match where Nash and Hogan where fighting for the belt and Hogan touched Nash with just a finger and he fell? I love that one.

[jackcool]

Really? I thought that moment was one of the moments that defined the fall of WCW.

Well that and giving David Arquette the championship :o

[Wolfsbane]

Well that and giving David Arquette the championship :o
LMAO. Yeah...that was a dumb move. :down

[Wolfsbane]

What do you guys think is gonna happen tonight on Smackdown with Batista and Eddie? I think Eddie is probably gonna cheap shot Batista.

[Metamorpho1977]

Well that and giving David Arquette the championship :o

I think that was the final nail in the coffin.

[jackcool]

And we can all thank Vince Russo for that.

I swear, I think McMahon sent Russo to WCW to destroy the company internally. That's the only way to explain the dumb **** Russo did.

[Twitch]

And we can all thank Vince Russo for that.

I swear, I think McMahon sent Russo to WCW to destroy the company internally. That's the only way to explain the dumb **** Russo did.

Wasn't Russo part of TNA in the begining of the promotion?

[jackcool]

Yeah, and even in those days, TNA was cheesy as hell. Russo set up a group called Sports Entertainment Extreme (or SEX for short :rolleyes: ) and Jarrett was set up as the ultimate face.

Guess who won the majority of the battles?

[Twitch]

Yeah, and even in those days, TNA was cheesy as hell. Russo set up a group called Sports Entertainment Extreme (or SEX for short :rolleyes: ) and Jarrett was set up as the ultimate face.

Guess who won the majority of the battles?

OMFG No :(

Jarret?

[punishermax]

Source: PWInsider.com

Austin Aries has signed a deal with TNA. Roderick Strong has also signed on as reported here two days ago.

Kevin Nash will be in an angle during the main event of Bound for Glory.

The former Dudley Boyz made their TNA deals official yesterday.

From TNAWrestling.com:

Nashville, TN (September 23, 2005) - TNAwrestling.com has learned that the hottest free agent in mixed martial arts, "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Tito Ortiz, will be making his return to TNA Wrestling on an upcoming episode of "iMPACT!" on Spike TV!

Ortiz served as the special referee in the main event at May's "Hard Justice" Pay-Per-View, featuring "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles beating Jeff Jarrett for the NWA World Heavyweight Title.

Ortiz will be meeting with TNA management and NWA Championship Committee member Larry Zbyszko next week in Orlando to discuss his return to Total Nonstop Action.

TNAwrestling.com will provide further information on Tito Ortiz's TNA return as it becomes available.

[punishermax]

Source: PWTorch.com

Kevin Nash and TNA verbally agreed to terms today on at least a one year deal with the company which will include at least 20 appearances on TV and PPV. The paperwork has not been finished just yet but it has been agreed upon. This is the big news out of the office today and Nash is scheduled to be at the Spike TV taping next week.

Austin Aries posted on his official website: "I can confirm reports that I have received a contract offer from TNA. I'm finalizing some wording in the contract and will officially sign it early next week. TNA has a great opportunity to make some noise in the wrestling industry and provide an alternative to the WWE product that fans haven't had for some time. I'm excited about the potential of TNA and glad I'm going to be part of it." He also noted "My contract with TNA will have NO effect on my status within ROH. It's been agreed upon that even with my TNA signing I will be still be able to fulfill all my ROH commitments, including not only being able to continue wrestling on their shows but continuing to run the ROH School during the week."

[Metamorpho1977]

Something interesting may be happening on Smackdown tonight. Batista was just told that his tag team partner Eddie Guerrero was out sick. Batista just said he's got the best doctor in town on the way. Well, there's a wrestler known as Steve Williams that lives right in Texas where they're at now. Steve Williams may be better known to any long time wrestling fan as "Dr. Death" Steve Williams. I don't know if it's him, but could be.

[jackcool]

That guy who fought Simon Dean this week is pretty impressive.

Damn, first Mr. Kennedy (Kennedy) and now this other new guy, the WWE seems to be bringing up some interesting new wrestlers on Smackdown :up:

[Wolfsbane]

I get such a kick out of Mr. Kennedy. He's hysterical. And, yeah, Bobby Lashley is very impressive looking. Batista kicking ass as usual, that was a good match. Always awesome to see the Undertaker.

[Metamorpho1977]

Guess I was wrong.

Bobby Lashley, good first impression.

Kennedy is on his way up nicely, maybe we won't have to see JBL in anymore main events after the WWE decides to push this guy to main event matches.

[Wolfsbane]

I hope so. I can't stand JBL.

[jackcool]

Guess I was wrong.

Bobby Lashley, good first impression.

Kennedy is on his way up nicely, maybe we won't have to see JBL in anymore main events after the WWE decides to push this guy to main event matches.

I could definitely see Mr. Kennedy in the main event by next year. For now, though, I wouldn't mind seeing him feuding with Benoit and winning the US title :up:

This guy could almost be Smackdown's new Kurt Angle :up:

[Wolfsbane]

I could definitely see Mr. Kennedy in the main event by next year. For now, though, I wouldn't mind seeing him feuding with Benoit and winning the US title :up:

This guy could almost be Smackdown's new Kurt Angle :up:
Agreed. I wouldn't mind seeing him with the U.S. Title.

[NDX]

Damn preemptions. Well, I'll make sure to check out Lashley's match tomorrow (tonight) and won't miss Kennedy's match.

It's good to see McMahon is finally putting some interest back into Smackdown! and putting some reasonably good wrestlers on the show again. The program has been lacking as of late, although RAW has not been much better.

Good to see Roderick Strong and Austin Aries over at TNA. I've never been able to go to ROH event and look forward to seeing them work.

[Super_Ludacris]

Damn preemptions. Well, I'll make sure to check out Lashley's match tomorrow (tonight) and won't miss Kennedy's match.

It's good to see McMahon is finally putting some interest back into Smackdown! and putting some reasonably good wrestlers on the show again. The program has been lacking as of late, although RAW has not been much better.

Good to see Roderick Strong and Austin Aries over at TNA. I've never been able to go to ROH event and look forward to seeing them work.


.......Keeeeeeenneeeeddyyyyyyy!!!!

[3dman27]

iunderstand the hurricane was injured recently wrestling murdoch is that true or just a storyline?

[Hunter Rider]

To hunter rider,

EuroSport is now showing the Best Of TNA Impact episodes.

Three matches announced for Bound For Glory:

Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles Iron Man Match II
Samoa "Jaw" Joe vs. Jushin Thunder Liger
Chris Sabin vs. Matt Bentley vs. Petey Williams in Ultimate X VIII

Thanks Vile:up: ...First TNA show for me tonight http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_20.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824AXGB)

Iron Man II-is that an hour match ?

[Hunter Rider]

I only just saw Unforgiven last night thats why i havent been on this thread (i bet you all missed me:D :p )

Sooooo it was a mediocre show IMO,The Cage match and the WWE title match were pretty good IMO but the rest was bleh
Ashley was embarrising and so was Flair and his viagra:( Im a huge Flair fan but his match with Carlito was awful and really the time has come for in ring retirment
Masters and HBk was average,not much Shawn could do with that cumbersome muscle bag,he needs de-pushing now:mad:
Havent seen RAW yet but that 8-man Tag looked like a lame idea

I hear what you say Jack about Cena's spaz walk lol but his wrestling is really improving IMO unlike Batista who has settled into a 3 move pattern

Angle will win the belt at Taboo tuesday hence the DQ finish,the wwe really need to find another way to extend a series than that lame way as they did that already this year with Batista/JBL

[Hunter Rider]

iunderstand the hurricane was injured recently wrestling murdoch is that true or just a storyline?

If that was the DDT he took at Unforgiven that was just a storyline

[Wolfsbane]

I only just saw Unforgiven last night thats why i havent been on this thread (i bet you all missed me:D :p )

Sooooo it was a mediocre show IMO,The Cage match and the WWE title match were pretty good IMO but the rest was bleh
Ashley was embarrising and so was Flair and his viagra:( Im a huge Flair fan but his match with Carlito was awful and really the time has come for in ring retirment
Masters and HBk was average,not much Shawn could do with that cumbersome muscle bag,he needs de-pushing now:mad:
Havent seen RAW yet but that 8-man Tag looked like a lame idea

I hear what you say Jack about Cena's spaz walk lol but his wrestling is really improving IMO unlike Batista who has settled into a 3 move pattern

Angle will win the belt at Taboo tuesday hence the DQ finish,the wwe really need to find another way to extend a series than that lame way as they did that already this year with Batista/JBL
I agree with you on most points. Flair needs to hang up his tights and stop now. A 3 move pattern for Batista may be true, but I'm still a huge fan.

[Hunter Rider]

I agree with you on most points. Flair needs to hang up his tights and stop now. A 3 move pattern for Batista may be true, but I'm still a huge fan.

I still think he is ok and is starting to show some personality but he needs to enlarge his move set or risk being like Golderg turned

[Wolfsbane]

This is true. I would like to see him use all of the high power moves he use to when he was in Evolution. He was more viscious then. I'd like to see that side of him again when he wrestles...he just seemed more intense.

[Metamorpho1977]

First match announced for TNA's Spike TV debut.

First Match On Spike TV For TNA Revealed
Story By: Ryan Clark
From TNAWrestling.com:

A "PHENOMENAL" START FOR TNA ON SPIKE TV
AJ Styles to compete in first match on iMPACT!

Nashville, TN (September 22, 2005) - It will be a phenomenal
start for TNA Wrestling's debut of "iMPACT!" on Spike TV on
Saturday, October 1. TNAwrestling.com has learned X Division
Champion AJ Styles will kick-off the show in the first
match.

In a website poll, TNA Wrestling asked fans who they wanted
to see in the first bout. The masses overwhelmingly voted
for Styles, who earned nearly 60 percent of the votes.

TNAwrestling.com has also learned that "The Phenomenal One"
will face newcomer Roderick Strong in the opening bout on
Spike TV in a match that will truly showcase the high-
flying, daredevil, X Division action fans can expect to see
in the coming months.

TNAwrestling.com will post more major announcements in the
upcoming days about the debut of "iMPACT!" on Spike TV.

------------------------------------------------------------

[Wolfsbane]

Awesome. I can't wait for TNA's debut on Spike. It's gonna rock.

[jackcool]

I only just saw Unforgiven last night thats why i havent been on this thread (i bet you all missed me:D :p )

Sooooo it was a mediocre show IMO,The Cage match and the WWE title match were pretty good IMO but the rest was bleh
Ashley was embarrising and so was Flair and his viagra:( Im a huge Flair fan but his match with Carlito was awful and really the time has come for in ring retirment
Masters and HBk was average,not much Shawn could do with that cumbersome muscle bag,he needs de-pushing now:mad:
Havent seen RAW yet but that 8-man Tag looked like a lame idea

I hear what you say Jack about Cena's spaz walk lol but his wrestling is really improving IMO unlike Batista who has settled into a 3 move pattern

Angle will win the belt at Taboo tuesday hence the DQ finish,the wwe really need to find another way to extend a series than that lame way as they did that already this year with Batista/JBL

Actually, the eight-man tag was a pretty fun match. Nothing that great, but a great way to end a Raw. Plus, the interview backstage with Cena,Hardy, Show, and MIchaels was pretty damn funny.

And yeah, Cena is improving (a bit), but I still hate his spaz walk :mad: :( Whatever happened to his old way of coming out all cool and collected? :(

[Hunter Rider]

Actually, the eight-man tag was a pretty fun match. Nothing that great, but a great way to end a Raw. Plus, the interview backstage with Cena,Hardy, Show, and MIchaels was pretty damn funny.

And yeah, Cena is improving (a bit), but I still hate his spaz walk :mad: :( Whatever happened to his old way of coming out all cool and collected? :(

I think the walk is part of his "face" routine,an attempt to jack the crowd up,he should drop that and the 5 knuckle shuffle cos he is improving in other areas IMO
The 8 man was ok but it did RAW's lowest rating for some time,I wonder how long they plan on keeping Flair as IC champ,his feud with Carlito is Pitiful:(

[jackcool]

I'm hoping very shortly. I think they may still want a Flair-Triple H feud. Unless they plan to drag it out ala LOD 2005. I still can't believe those two are still the tag-team champions.

[Hunter Rider]

I'm hoping very shortly. I think they may still want a Flair-Triple H feud. Unless they plan to drag it out ala LOD 2005. I still can't believe those two are still the tag-team champions.
I honestly don't think Flair should be getting this push right now,it's ridiculous as he is really going back now in the ring and a feud with HHH is a main event birth that could be used for an up and comer
The LOD have had the belts that long cos other than MNM there isnt anyone to put them so there dregging it out,probably till No Mercy
I am enjoying the Orton/Taker matches but i wish Taker was the Biker character instead so we could have some good verbal sparring as well:(

[jackcool]

I think the only reason why he's feuding with Triple H is because they've exhausted damn near everything else with those two. I mean how many times has a Flair face-turned been teased only for him to once again side with Triple H? I wouldn't mind seeing him feud with Hunter for now only because it takes Triple H out of the title picture for a while (which is sorely needed) and it could end up being Flair's farewell feud.

Still, I would rather they kept the title belts on MNM rather than Animal and Heidenreich. Seriously, the only reason why LOD still has the belts is because Johnny Ace is his brother. Look at when Johnny Ace was in charge of WCW near the end of it's run. Animal was part of the heel stable with Jarrett, Steiner, Flair, etc.

[Hunter Rider]

I think the only reason why he's feuding with Triple H is because they've exhausted damn near everything else with those two. I mean how many times has a Flair face-turned been teased only for him to once again side with Triple H? I wouldn't mind seeing him feud with Hunter for now only because it takes Triple H out of the title picture for a while (which is sorely needed) and it could end up being Flair's farewell feud.

Still, I would rather they kept the title belts on MNM rather than Animal and Heidenreich. Seriously, the only reason why LOD still has the belts is because Johnny Ace is his brother. Look at when Johnny Ace was in charge of WCW near the end of it's run. Animal was part of the heel stable with Jarrett, Steiner, Flair, etc.

I just hope he can put a better quality match on with HHH than he has with Carlito to end his career
Im thinking perhaps a Cena/HHH feud may go to mania but not for the title,instead they make make it about who's "The Franchise" of RAW
I didn't know Ace was his brother,guess that explains it then:(

[Wolfsbane]

I am enjoying the Orton/Taker matches but i wish Taker was the Biker character instead so we could have some good verbal sparring as well:(
I don't agree. Biker Taker was horrible IMO, only thing I liked was The Last Ride. I prefer this new Taker, which is the mix between original and biker. It works good.

[Hunter Rider]

I don't agree. Biker Taker was horrible IMO, only thing I liked was The Last Ride. I prefer this new Taker, which is the mix between original and biker. It works good.

To me the new Taker is boring,he never cuts a promo and all this stupid lightning from the roof "powers" crap is for 5 year olds and enbarrasing watching Orton play mock scared

[Wolfsbane]

Honestly, I wish he would just go back to old school Taker. Dressing the way he use to. That was the best, and for me, nothing tops it.

[Hunter Rider]

Honestly, I wish he would just go back to old school Taker. Dressing the way he use to. That was the best, and for me, nothing tops it.

That was fine 10 years ago but times have changed and Taker has been stuck in a rut with this tired old gimmick,the Badass character moved him into someting more believeable for the modern era

[Wolfsbane]

I see where your coming from. It would be weird though if he suddenly went back to biker, and shaved his head again (didn't like that to much). Hopefully something good will happen with him. I would love to see Batista vs, Taker.

[Hunter Rider]

I see where your coming from. It would be weird though if he suddenly went back to biker, and shaved his head again (didn't like that to much). Hopefully something good will happen with him. I would love to see Batista vs, Taker.

Well he did suddenly revert to the darkside gimmick again but who knows,he Often takes a break around Survivior Series and returns for WM so maybe he'll make a change there

[Wolfsbane]

Yeah, I remember that. Kane supposedly "killed" him. Then at Wrestlemania 20, he came back as the Deadman. That was pretty cool. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I remember that. Kane supposedly "killed" him. Then at Wrestlemania 20, he came back as the Deadman. That was pretty cool. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

If they intend to do a feud with him and Batista i think they would have to turn him heel as Batista has a big fanbase right now

[Wolfsbane]

That might not work out well. They both have huge fanbases. And I just don't see a friendly rivalry taking place between them. But man, I sure would love to see Taker with the title again.

[The Batman]

I don't agree. Biker Taker was horrible IMO, only thing I liked was The Last Ride. I prefer this new Taker, which is the mix between original and biker. It works good.


Biker Taker sucked ass. He was basically the whole Texan Badass cliche austin started in the 90's. The "Deadman" gimmick his gimmick, and it works

[Hunter Rider]

Biker Taker sucked ass. He was basically the whole Texan Badass cliche austin started in the 90's. The "Deadman" gimmick his gimmick, and it works

I disagree,the Biker gimmick brought him up to date.the gimmick he is using now is only good if your a kid,i just can't stop laughing when he roll's his eyes and lightning bolts shoot from the roof,it's dumb,plus he never hardly speaks now so all his feuds lack an angle

[BlackSymbiote]

Samoa "Jaw" Joe vs. Jushin Thunder Liger

LIGER?! Awesome!!!!

Now if only TNA could bring in Keiji Mutoh, I'd be a happy fan.

[Metamorpho1977]

I haven't seen Jushin Thunder Liger since that match he had with Chris Benoit way back in WCW when I guess both of them were making their WCW debuts.

[Wolfsbane]

Wow, Liger. Awesome. Its been a long time since I've seen him in action.

[jackcool]

That was fine 10 years ago but times have changed and Taker has been stuck in a rut with this tired old gimmick,the Badass character moved him into someting more believeable for the modern era

Yep. That's why I liked the whole biker gimmick. It was a great progression of his character. It totally changed with the times. I was disappointed when they got UT to go back to his Deadman gimmick because it seemed like a step back.....

[Wolfsbane]

Wow, I didn't know alot of people actually like the biker gimmick. I thought most people were upset because they loved the deadman style so much.

[jackcool]

The Deadman was a good gimmick for the times. But the biker gimmick was also good because UT used that gimmick at the right moment. During the attitude era, the wrestlers dropped a lot of the outlandish gimmicks in exchange for a more realistic look. Mick Foley turned Mankind from a freak into just Mick Foley in a mask. Undertaker changed from the deadman to a biker.

Plus, the biker UT didn't no-sell as much as the deadman :o

[Wolfsbane]

Good point. Plus, you gotta love The Last Ride. :)

[Hunter Rider]

Ugh theyv'e ruined TNA on eurosport:mad: :mad: :mad: :(

[jackcool]

What happened? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

What happened? :confused:

they dubbed commentator's over the top of instead of using Tenay and the ptoper TNA crew,one of them is some british guy with a terrible voice and delivery:(

[jackcool]

Well at least you don't have to hear Don West's rantings anymore.....:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Well at least you don't have to hear Don West's rantings anymore.....:confused:
it also kills the crowd though,it feels cheap and this brisitsh guy has to be worse,i hope they don't do this when Impact starts for real in a few weeks

[jackcool]

You're lucky though, at least you get Impact :mad: :(

And does the British guy sound like Mark Madden except with an even coarser voice? Because that's Don West :o

[Wolfsbane]

I hope not. Good commentary is a must.

[Hunter Rider]

You're lucky though, at least you get Impact :mad: :(

And does the British guy sound like Mark Madden except with an even coarser voice? Because that's Don West :o

no he sounds like a kid from my old school days:(

[jackcool]

I doubt he can sound like Don West, that guy annoys me :( Mike Tenay is good though :up:

[Hunter Rider]

I doubt he can sound like Don West, that guy annoys me :( Mike Tenay is good though :up:

maybe it was just for these best of matches:confused: *prays*
So MAsters the next IC champ i reckon

[jackcool]

I hope not. If anything, give it back to Carlito, or even give it to a Kerwin White (Even though I hate the name and gimmick :( ) or Rob Conway.

[Wolfsbane]

Masters? Could be. That would be interesting to see.

[Hunter Rider]

I hope not. If anything, give it back to Carlito, or even give it to a Kerwin White (Even though I hate the name and gimmick :( ) or Rob Conway.

I don't like Masters either but im certain he will be the next IC champ,he beat Flair in the tag match the other week and i think he will take it off Flair at TT with HHH pulling the swerve

[jackcool]

Boo, there are so many other midcarders who could use the IC title more :(

[Wolfsbane]

I can't to see HHH again. I want him for the WWE Championship. Enough of John Cena!

[Wolfsbane]

EDIT: Double Post. :o

[jackcool]

I can't to see HHH again. I want him for the WWE Championship. Enough of John Cena!

I would rather Trips stay out of the championship picture. Kurt Angle for champion instead :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Boo, there are so many other midcarders who could use the IC title more :(
I dont like it Jack but it's very likely,look how they put him over on commenterary:(

[Wolfsbane]

Hmm. Kurt Angle for the title. And him and Trips have a feud. I think that would be awesome.

[jackcool]

I dont like it Jack but it's very likely,look how they put him over on commenterary:(

Yeah, true. I don't know why he's getting pushed to the moon while Rob Conway (who has a similar gimmick but has better mic and wrestling skills) is forever on Heat :(

[jackcool]

Hmm. Kurt Angle for the title. And him and Trips have a feud. I think that would be awesome.

Nah. Angle and Shawn feuding for the title.

Honestly, Triple H doesn't need to be in the title picture for a while. Let him feud with like Flair or somebody and then by WM, fight for the title....

[Hunter Rider]

Hmm. Kurt Angle for the title. And him and Trips have a feud. I think that would be awesome.

I think HHH needs to stay out of the title picture for a while ,i would like to see Angle feud with RVD

[Wolfsbane]

Yeah, I like that better. And Rob Conway gets :down :down .

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, true. I don't know why he's getting pushed to the moon while Rob Conway (who has a similar gimmick but has better mic and wrestling skills) is forever on Heat :(

Maybe cos Masters is younger ? im not sure,but i hope they realise soon masters sucks:o :(

[Hunter Rider]

Nah. Angle and Shawn feuding for the title.

Honestly, Triple H doesn't need to be in the title picture for a while. Let him feud with like Flair or somebody and then by WM, fight for the title....

Im hoping he will stay away from it longer than that,i want him and Cena to feud at WM in a "franchise" match

[jackcool]

Maybe cos Masters is younger ? im not sure,but i hope they realise soon masters sucks:o :(

Yeah, it totally dumbfounds me. Conway is the much better performer all around and he hasn't broken anybody's nose or anything like that. And yet, they continually shove Masters down our throats! :mad: :(

[jackcool]

Im hoping he will stay away from it longer than that,i want him and Cena to feud at WM in a "franchise" match

Yeah, that wouldn't be bad. Anything to get him out of the title picture for a while. I don't think he's even been in a feud that didn't involve the title since the roster split....

[Wolfsbane]

I agree on the fact that they are promoting Masters way too much. But Conway? He's..um...well worse than Masters. Alot worse. And what the hell is up with his entrance music?

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, it totally dumbfounds me. Conway is the much better performer all around and he hasn't broken anybody's nose or anything like that. And yet, they continually shove Masters down our throats! :mad: :(
you would think that it would click backstage that something is wrong when even HBK can only drag a mediocre match out of him:confused:

[jackcool]

I agree on the fact that they are promoting Masters way too much. But Conway? He's..um...well worse than Masters. Alot worse. And what the hell is up with his entrance music?

Nah. Conway has better wrestling ability than Masters. Could you imagine Masters trying that bionic elbow that Conway does? Plus, Conway doesn't talk like he has something in his mouth all the time.

And I'm starting to dig his entrance theme. It's cheesy but funny as hell :o

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, that wouldn't be bad. Anything to get him out of the title picture for a while. I don't think he's even been in a feud that didn't involve the title since the roster split....

Exactly and it would be big for Cena to top HHH at WM22 and he doesn't need to do it for the strap as it is becoming repetetive HHH dropping the belt to the "face of the moment" at Mania's
That way they can use the title match to get someone else over like RVD beating Angle or a rematch between HBK and Angle to settle their feud

[jackcool]

you would think that it would click backstage that something is wrong when even HBK can only drag a mediocre match out of him:confused:

I think Masters probably did the same thing Buff Bagwell did to get a job :( ;)

[Wolfsbane]

I think Masters probably did the same thing Buff Bagwell did to get a job :( ;)
LMAO!

[jackcool]

Exactly and it would be big for Cena to top HHH at WM22 and he doesn't need to do it for the strap as it is becoming repetetive HHH dropping the belt to the "face of the moment" at Mania's
That way they can use the title match to get someone else over like RVD beating Angle or a rematch between HBK and Angle to settle their feud

Yep.
That's one of the reasons I soured on Triple H lately. It seemed like he needed the belt to get over. But look at guys like ANgle, Shawn, Foley, or the ROck. They can get over whether or not they're wearing the championship belt.
I just want to see Triple H get involved in some matches that involve more about him and less about the title belt.

[Hunter Rider]

I think Masters probably did the same thing Buff Bagwell did to get a job :( ;)

:eek: *shudders*:(
I gotta agree Conway is far superior in the ring and while neither are good mic workers at least conway can get a sentence out:o

[jackcool]

:eek: *shudders*:(
I gotta agree Conway is far superior in the ring and while neither are good mic workers at least conway can get a sentence out:o

Yeah, it's a disgusting image. But it honestly has to be the only reason why Masters is still in the main event :(

[Wolfsbane]

Lol. Yeah, Masters has some problems. And, I don't think you can really call the punching and Master Lock, which is all he does, good wrestling skills.

[Hunter Rider]

Yep.
That's one of the reasons I soured on Triple H lately. It seemed like he needed the belt to get over. But look at guys like ANgle, Shawn, Foley, or the ROck. They can get over whether or not they're wearing the championship belt.
I just want to see Triple H get involved in some matches that involve more about him and less about the title belt.


Exactly,His character is virtually the belt,he is defined by it and yet he has the ability to be a player without it and a feud with Flair followed by a run against Cena in a personal feud about the master and the hot headed younger guy could be great

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, it's a disgusting image. But it honestly has to be the only reason why Masters is still in the main event :(

Yeah and they have pushed him for the start.....Shelton must not play by the rules:(

[Wolfsbane]

Exactly,His character is virtually the belt,he is defined by it and yet he has the ability to be a player without it and a feud with Flair followed by a run against Cena in a personal feud about the master and the hot headed younger guy could be great
Agreed. HHH can do good without the title, and he shouldn't have it as soon as he comes back. And, I hope Stone Cold wrestles!

[jackcool]

Exactly,His character is virtually the belt,he is defined by it and yet he has the ability to be a player without it and a feud with Flair followed by a run against Cena in a personal feud about the master and the hot headed younger guy could be great

I honestly hope that's what they do, rather than just have an immediate Cena-Triple H title feud. Put the title belt on someone else for a while.

[Hunter Rider]

Lol. Yeah, Masters has some problems. And, I don't think you can really call the punching and Master Lock, which is all he does, good wrestling skills.

His biggest problem is his inability to move around the ring,he is cumbersome with no 2nd gear,he is just there like an imobile block

[jackcool]

Yeah and they have pushed him for the start.....Shelton must not play by the rules:(

Probably. Kinda makes me wish JR was the head of talent relations again. At least under him, we weren't subjected to Masters or Tomko or the various clones :(

[Hunter Rider]

I honestly hope that's what they do, rather than just have an immediate Cena-Triple H title feud. Put the title belt on someone else for a while.
They have made Angle out to be "unstoppable" so he needs to cement that and take the belt,the predictability of Cena/HHH at WM22 for the title bores me already

[Hunter Rider]

Probably. Kinda makes me wish JR was the head of talent relations again. At least under him, we weren't subjected to Masters or Tomko or the various clones :(

yeah thats WWE's biggest problem right now the backstage staff,I can't figure out what they are doing with Tomko and his kick of Doom:confused:

[Wolfsbane]

Lol. Yeah, I can admit that at least Conway can pull moves off. And, we really should see more of Shelton, he is a phenominal athlete, as good ol' JR would say.

[Wolfsbane]

Hey! Tomko is awesome! The Yakuza KIck is cool.

[jackcool]

yeah thats WWE's biggest problem right now the backstage staff,I can't figure out what they are doing with Tomko and his kick of Doom:confused:

Me neither. I thought he would've been released by now. He's still green in the ring and has shown zero personality. His tattoos must induce hypnosis or something like that :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Me neither. I thought he would've been released by now. He's still green in the ring and has shown zero personality. His tattoos must induce hypnosis or something like that :confused:

lol,he has no charisma at all and doesnt even have a great look beyond the role he played with CC,his ring work is mediocre but still better than Masters:(