Wrestling

[jackcool]

lol,he has no charisma at all and doesnt even have a great look beyond the role he played with CC,his ring work is mediocre but still better than Masters:(

I dunno, he still messes up the big boot whenever he tries it. And that's like his only move. You would've thought he would've improved at least that by now :(

[Wolfsbane]

I think they should drop Masters, and keep Tomko. Respect the pharoh beard.

[Hunter Rider]

I dunno, he still messes up the big boot whenever he tries it. And that's like his only move. You would've thought he would've improved at least that by now :(

It's sad that Test owns him at the big boooooooooot:o :(

[Hunter Rider]

I think they should drop Masters, and keep Tomko. Respect the pharoh beard.

I think they should take both of them and Carlito and send them to OVW or hell,whichever is easiest;)

[jackcool]

You know, I'm watching like all of Mr. Kennedy's (Kennedy) videos on WWE.com. They're like the funniest things ever :D

[Twitch]

I think they should drop Masters, and keep Tomko. Respect the pharoh beard.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

[Wolfsbane]

Are you ****ing kidding me?
No...no I'm not. Tomko has potential.

[Wolfsbane]

You know, I'm watching like all of Mr. Kennedy's (Kennedy) videos on WWE.com. They're like the funniest things ever :D
Mr. Kennedy...Kennedy probably has some of the best mic skills out of all the people on Smackdown, IMO.

[jackcool]

No...no I'm not. Tomko has potential.

You serious?

The guy fell on his ass the first time he performed the big boot. He has no mic skills and very little wrestling skill. He celebrates like a lunatic whenever he gets a knockout.

The only thing he has going for him are his tattoos and his goatee. That's it.

IMO :o

[Twitch]

No...no I'm not. Tomko has potential.

You're a lost cause :(:down

[Wolfsbane]

Maybe the tatoos are hypnotic as I seem to be the only one liking him. :o

[Hunter Rider]

MR KENNEDY..................Kennedy.........best new guy for a loooong time,someone who has a personality but cant actually wrestle:eek: :o

[Wolfsbane]

Lol. I like his finisher though. Pretty cool.

[Hunter Rider]

Lol. I like his finisher though. Pretty cool.

Yeah my only question is how he will work it into matches with better class opponents given it requires the guy to sit there motionless for a pretty long time

[Wolfsbane]

Not to mention the heavier members of the roster.

[Hunter Rider]

Not to mention the heavier members of the roster.
true,im looking to him,Benoit,Booker,CC and Matt Hardy to lift the US division

[3dman27]

If that was the DDT he took at Unforgiven that was just a storyline
thanks hunter

[Wolfsbane]

I saw a clip of that DDT, that was pretty brutal.

[3dman27]

i'd hate for hurricane to end his career due to getting an arm parlyyzed my right arms been parylyzed due to cerebral palsy all my life its no fun

[Wolfsbane]

I heard JR mention something about his arm. I didn't know it was related to the DDT.

[Hunter Rider]

i'd hate for hurricane to end his career due to getting an arm parlyyzed my right arms been parylyzed due to cerebral palsy all my life its no fun

Want to say something non patronising here but i cant find the right words but my sympathies

Actually if you look at the clip you can see hurricane doesn't go head first into the mat he twists and so does Murdock so he landed more on his back than his head

[Hunter Rider]

source wz

The main page of WWE.com features a large graphic of The Ultimate Warrior (circa 1990) with the following open invitation: World Wrestling Entertainment would like to issue an open invitation to the Ultimate Warrior. The former WWE Champion recently declined to be a part of the DVD "The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior." The DVD, which promises to be one of the most controversial releases ever, features many former and current WWE Superstars talking about Warrior in a negative light. Now Ultimate Warrior has the opportunity to respond to those that have been verbally attacking him when Byte This! offers him an open invitation and open microphone Wednesday night. With recent reports stating that the DVD is a complete burrial of the former World Wrestling Federation Champion, it should be very interesting to hear whether or not Warrior accepts their offer. Warrior posted a very long commentary on his website back in July responding to reports that WWE was producing a negative DVD about his career.


Abyss vs. Sabu vs. Rhino vs. Jeff Hardy in a No DQ Anything Goes Monster's Ball 2 match has just been added to the Bound for Glory Card. This card is huge as they also have a 30 minute Iron Man match featuring AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels as well as an Ultimate X match (wires hanging above the ring) featuring Matt Bently, Chris Sabin, and Petey Williams. Jushin Liger vs. Samoa Joe is also on the card.

Speaking of Samoa Joe, TNA has huge plans for him once they debut on Spike TV.

Jeff Hardy vs. Kevin Nash is being talked about for the next PPV following Bound for Glory. Raven could also be thrown into the mix.

[Twitch]

source wz

The main page of WWE.com features a large graphic of The Ultimate Warrior (circa 1990) with the following open invitation: World Wrestling Entertainment would like to issue an open invitation to the Ultimate Warrior. The former WWE Champion recently declined to be a part of the DVD "The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior." The DVD, which promises to be one of the most controversial releases ever, features many former and current WWE Superstars talking about Warrior in a negative light. Now Ultimate Warrior has the opportunity to respond to those that have been verbally attacking him when Byte This! offers him an open invitation and open microphone Wednesday night. With recent reports stating that the DVD is a complete burrial of the former World Wrestling Federation Champion, it should be very interesting to hear whether or not Warrior accepts their offer. Warrior posted a very long commentary on his website back in July responding to reports that WWE was producing a negative DVD about his career.

I want to get this :up::up:

[Hunter Rider]

Source WZ




The following was just posted on WWE.com: It has just been announced that Shawn Michaels will take on Kurt Angle in a 30-minute WWE Iron Man Match.

It's funny to note that WWE just announced this today right after TNA announced a '30-minute Iron Man Match' for their Bound for Glory PPV. WWE did something similar with a 'Queen of the Mountain' angle during the Diva search obviously mocking TNA's 'King of the Mountain' match. It's clear that WWE is taking note of TNA.
In addition, it has just been announced that Mick Foley will be "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's guest on Piper's Pit.

[Hunter Rider]

From WWE.com:

Monday Night RAW isn't the only WWE show that is moving.

Starting next weekend, both HEAT and Velocity will now be available to watch on WWE.com. The VOD-style programs available to residents of the United States will still feature the same great original matches. In addition, however, each show will also have unique content never before seen on the program.

So be sure to log onto WWE.com next Friday afternoon to watch the inaugural edition of HEAT on the Internet. Then watch Velocity on Saturday morning, starting at 10 a.m. ET.

Note: As noted here on the site this past week, the wrestlers were informed at a recent pre-show meeting that there would be no roster cuts due to Heat and Velocity being cancelled in the United States. They still need to tape Heat for international viewing so they decided to also add the show to WWE.com similar to what TNA does with Impact! Linda McMahon also noted in a recent conference call that WWE was really going to try and add more content to the WWE.com website.

[Metamorpho1977]

I think Masters probably did the same thing Buff Bagwell did to get a job :( ;)

Now, Buff Bagwell was alright back when he was just Marcus Alexander Bagwell and before he became "Buff".

My cousin used to wrestle in Marietta and whoop Bagwell everytime they had a meet.

[LastSunrise1981]

Sounds like WWE is acknowledging TNA as competition. HBK/Angle should be a great match-up, just as long as Carlito or Masters don't get involved, if they just leave them out of it and let Angle/HBK have their match; then we all know it'll be a classic Iron-Man match.

If I was the owner of TNA, there's no way I would acknowledge WWE or try to take them on in ratings, if anything they'll be the form of a ghost in my eyes and I would see to it that better stories, matches, and overall product overshadowed everything the WWE tries.

:up:

[Wolfsbane]

Wow, lots going on in the upcoming weeks. I can't wait to see it all.

[Wolfsbane]

So, Roddy Piper will be at Homecoming? That's cool. But I was hoping to see Mick Foley kick some ass in the ring, not be a guest in Piper's Pit. But who knows, anything could happen.

[NDX]

If I was the owner of TNA, there's no way I would acknowledge WWE or try to take them on in ratings, if anything they'll be the form of a ghost in my eyes and I would see to it that better stories, matches, and overall product overshadowed everything the WWE tries.
Then Tenay should stop mentioning WWE on the program every other week when Rhino comes out and destroys an opponent.

WWE Homecoming is starting to look a bit better with the matches. Not at all happy about Hogan, Austin or Cena v. Bishoff, but look forward to Hardy v. Edge Ladder Match, HBK v. Angle Iron Man Match, and a Piper's Pit with... Foley. Okay, that one might be an odd one to watch.

Now lets just all hope RVD is finally fit enough to make a surprise return to the ring that evening.

Ahh, wishful thinking, where would I be without you?

[Hunter Rider]

Then Tenay should stop mentioning WWE on the program every other week when Rhino comes out and destroys an opponent.

WWE Homecoming is starting to look a bit better with the matches. Not at all happy about Hogan, Austin or Cena v. Bishoff, but look forward to Hardy v. Edge Ladder Match, HBK v. Angle Iron Man Match, and a Piper's Pit with... Foley. Okay, that one might be an odd one to watch.

Now lets just all hope RVD is finally fit enough to make a surprise return to the ring that evening.

Ahh, wishful thinking, where would I be without you?

I hope RVD doesn't return on that night as it will be underplayed and overrun by all the massive ego's due there that night:(

[Wolfsbane]

Then Tenay should stop mentioning WWE on the program every other week when Rhino comes out and destroys an opponent.

WWE Homecoming is starting to look a bit better with the matches. Not at all happy about Hogan, Austin or Cena v. Bishoff, but look forward to Hardy v. Edge Ladder Match, HBK v. Angle Iron Man Match, and a Piper's Pit with... Foley. Okay, that one might be an odd one to watch.

Now lets just all hope RVD is finally fit enough to make a surprise return to the ring that evening.

Ahh, wishful thinking, where would I be without you?
How can you say your not happy about Stone Cold being there? He's awesome!

[Hunter Rider]

How can you say your not happy about Stone Cold being there? He's awesome!

I guess he feels the same way i do that guys like Hogan and Austin who are finished shouldn't take up air time from guys who are trying to get their career's going

[Wolfsbane]

Hogan is finished, yeah. I'm sick of him too. But whoever said Austin is done? He's been training harder than ever to make his return to the ring. He's still relatively young, too.

[Hunter Rider]

Hogan is finished, yeah. I'm sick of him too. But whoever said Austin is done? He's been training harder than ever to make his return to the ring. He's still relatively young, too.
Austins neck and legs are done,his last matches were crap due to his imobility,if he does wrestle again it will be 1 match only at WM22

[Wolfsbane]

Meh, that sucks. I want him to come back for good, and not just make once-a-month appearances.

[Twitch]

I agree about Hogan but Austin has at least one last good match in him. I want it to be WM 22 against Orton that will really draw. Throw in HBK vs. Rock and you got a great card outside of the Main Event. I want the main Event to be Angle vs Shelton.... I can hope :(

[Hunter Rider]

Meh, that sucks. I want him to come back for good, and not just make once-a-month appearances.
his injuries mean he can only make one off appearences like Hogan

[Hunter Rider]

I agree about Hogan but Austin has at least one last good match in him. I want it to be WM 22 against Orton that will really draw. Throw in HBK vs. Rock and you got a great card outside of the Main Event. I want the main Event to be Angle vs Shelton.... I can hope :(

1 match yes i agree and with Orton would be ideal to furhter the legend killer gimmick
I doubt Shelton will get that match but im still hoping RVD might get the title match with Angle

[Wolfsbane]

Bah! He can probably get a few more matches out. Look at Hogan and Flair. Pretty damn old. They still wrestle though. I mean, Stone Cold's doesn't have to be high flying or anything, just his usual way. Ass kicking! And people are always so hyped to see Hogan, who comes out and does his posing for 10 minutes and thats about it. I'll say this: Screw Hogan, he sucks!

[Twitch]

1 match yes i agree and with Orton would be ideal to furhter the legend killer gimmick
I doubt Shelton will get that match but im still hoping RVD might get the title match with Angle

For RVD, I want him to have the title, but not Angle IMO. Don't get me wrong Angle is great, But IMO it would mean more if he took it from HBK in a ladder match...

[Twitch]

Bah! He can probably get a few more matches out. Look at Hogan and Flair. Pretty damn old. They still wrestle though. I mean, Stone Cold's doesn't have to be high flying or anything, just his usual way. Ass kicking! And people are always so hyped to see Hogan, who comes out and does his posing for 10 minutes and thats about it. I'll say this: Screw Hogan, he sucks!

Well Duh, and Flair should retire from the ring but IMO it would be great to see him as a manager :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Bah! He can probably get a few more matches out. Look at Hogan and Flair. Pretty damn old. They still wrestle though. I mean, Stone Cold's doesn't have to be high flying or anything, just his usual way. Ass kicking! And people are always so hyped to see Hogan, who comes out and does his posing for 10 minutes and thats about it. I'll say this: Screw Hogan, he sucks!

Well Flair has reached his limit now and rarely works main events which is what Austin would want,plus Austin likes to win all the time and that would be a problem as well

[Wolfsbane]

RVD vs HBK for a ladder match would be incredible to see. And yeah, Austin wanting to win all the time would be problematic.

[Hunter Rider]

For RVD, I want him to have the title, but not Angle IMO. Don't get me wrong Angle is great, But IMO it would mean more if he took it from HBK in a ladder match...

Him beating HBK in a ladder match would be sweet but i think it's more likely he will take it off Angle

[Wolfsbane]

I would rather see RVD vs Angle vs HBK in a ladder match for the title. That would be awesome.

[Twitch]

Him beating HBK in a ladder match would be sweet but i think it's more likely he will take it off Angle

Yeah I know but still that would be awesome if WWE actually listens to the fans wants like TNA and gives us that match.

[Wolfsbane]

I wish they would listen to us. We seem to think up much better matches than they do. Their ratings would probably be even better if they listened to the fans.

[Twitch]

I would rather see RVD vs Angle vs HBK in a ladder match for the title. That would be awesome.

Angle won't be very effective in a ladder match IMO. HBK and RVD will be jumping off the ladder alot to add more pain to his oppoment. Unless Angle puts the Ladder in a tunbuckle to do unique attacks..

[Wolfsbane]

He might be able to pull of some good moves. He likes to do that moonsault alot, he could probably do it from the ladder.

[NDX]

WWE would rather dictate to us what wrestling we should watch.

If I, and a few other people I know, had our ways there would be little to no stories and just matches. Feuds would be for simple reasons, such as "I hate you!" or "I'm the bad guy so of course I attack the good guy!" to the classic "I want your title, now!" I know it's simple, but simple used to work, and it can again.

Did anyone actually follow the Rey/Eddie storyline and find it good or just poorly recycles ECW stories when they were still edgy? Does anyone feel anything for the current Orton/Taker storyline or that it is just another one of Undertaker's many feuds where he plays mind games and so on and so forth? I know the Hardy/Edge/Lita angle is legitimate, but that doesn't make it any more entertaining.

It feels the WWE are out of stories, and they just recycle successful stories of yesteryear hopeing they will work now, but don't because you put your stories in the hands of Hollywood writers and not bookers.

[Wolfsbane]

WWE would rather dictate to us what wrestling we should watch.

If I, and a few other people I know, had our ways there would be little to no stories and just matches. Feuds would be for simple reasons, such as "I hate you!" or "I'm the bad guy so of course I attack the good guy!" to the classic "I want your title, now!" I know it's simple, but simple used to work, and it can again.

Did anyone actually follow the Rey/Eddie storyline and find it good or just poorly recycles ECW stories when they were still edgy? Does anyone feel anything for the current Orton/Taker storyline or that it is just another one of Undertaker's many feuds where he plays mind games and so on and so forth? I know the Hardy/Edge/Lita angle is legitimate, but that doesn't make it any more entertaining.

It feels the WWE are out of stories, and they just recycle successful stories of yesteryear hopeing they will work now, but don't because you put your stories in the hands of Hollywood writers and not bookers.
Good point. The Rey/Eddie story was just stupid, but the matches were good. I don't really care for deep plots and stories behind every match. The simple stuff was the best, and it worked out well majority of the time.

[Hunter Rider]

The matches in bot those feuds have been excellent IMO but the Rey/Eddie storyline went on to long and The Orton/Taker angle is non exsistent except for lightning bolts:down

[Wolfsbane]

Lol. Wasn't the Friday night debut like the fourth time he's brought down lightning with Orton?

[Hunter Rider]

Lol. Wasn't the Friday night debut like the fourth time he's brought down lightning with Orton?

yep,unless your five years old when he rolls his eyes and lightning comes down from the roof you just laugh........and then cringe when Orton sells it with mock fear:(

[Wolfsbane]

It's pretty cool how they make it look like real lightning. But, it does seem really childish. And, yeah, Orton can't really act the part that well.

[Wolfsbane]

So, what do you guys think is gonna happen at No Mercy? I only know of Eddie Guerrero vs. Batista and Undertaker vs. Bob and Randy Orton so far. I have a feeling Eddie may win the title. Taker will probably win the casket match.

[Hunter Rider]

So, what do you guys think is gonna happen at No Mercy? I only know of Eddie Guerrero vs. Batista and Undertaker vs. Bob and Randy Orton so far. I have a feeling Eddie may win the title. Taker will probably win the casket match.
So it's a handicap casket match ?

[Twitch]

Guys I strongly recomend going to TNA's website and watching the two Best Of Specials.

On the first one the headline match is

AJ Styles Vs. Chris Sabin vs. Petey Williams Ultimate X Match from Final Resoulution

On the second episode the headline match is:

Iron Man I: AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels (30 mins) for the X Title from Against All Odds

:up::up::up:

[Wolfsbane]

So it's a handicap casket match ?
Yep.

[Wolfsbane]

Guys I strongly recomend going to TNA's website and watching the two Best Of Specials.

On the first one the headline match is

AJ Styles Vs. Chris Sabin vs. Petey Williams Ultimate X Match from Final Resoulution

On the second episode the headline match is:

Iron Man I: AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels (30 mins) for the X Title from Against All Odds

:up::up::up:
Awesome, I'll check it out.

[Hunter Rider]

Yep.

Bad idea,makes Orton look weak

[Wolfsbane]

I dread the fact that Bob Orton is wrestling. That's just wrong.

[Twitch]

Bad idea,makes Orton look weak

Orton should win the Casket Match and have Taker play "dead" then come back with the biker gimmick. :up:

[Wolfsbane]

Lol. Wow you must really want that back.

[Hunter Rider]

Orton should win the Casket Match and have Taker play "dead" then come back with the biker gimmick. :up:

yeah Taker could take the rest of the year off and return as the biker at the Rumble:up:

[Wolfsbane]

I just looked at the TNA site. Holy crap. I have never seen a match from TNA. It looks insane. As far as the moves that those guys pull off, TNA has WWE beat IMO. Where can I go to see some matches so I can familiarize myself with it before Oct. 1?

[Twitch]

Lol. Wow you must really want that back.

Its Nothing to Laugh about if you want Taker to survive the next generation that's his best choice

[Twitch]

I just looked at the TNA site. Holy crap. I have never seen a match from TNA. It looks insane. As far as the moves that those guys pull off, TNA has WWE beat IMO. Where can I go to see some matches so I can familiarize myself with it before Oct. 1?

http://www.tnawrestling.com/boundforglory/index.html

Its at the bottom and you must have Real Player...

This is what I want you to do every time you see AJ do something crazy. Thank God for giving us this great athlete :o:up:

[Wolfsbane]

:eek: Holy crap! TNA owns! The Fallen Angle looks badass. How is he in the ring?

[Twitch]

:eek: Holy crap! TNA owns! The Fallen Angle looks badass. How is he in the ring?

Let the matches do the talking :up:

[Wolfsbane]

This is some good stuff. But, who the hell is the commentator with the nasaly, extremely annoying voice? He needs to go.

[Twitch]

This is some good stuff. But, who the hell is the commentator with the nasaly, extremely annoying voice? He needs to go.

Don West and I agree

[jackcool]

Orton should win the Casket Match and have Taker play "dead" then come back with the biker gimmick. :up:

Knowing the WWE's logic, they'll probably just have UT come back in that "dead angel" gimmick he had after he lost that Buried Alive match to Mankind a few years back :o

[Wolfsbane]

Probably. I'm guessing the biker gimmick is over. I wouldn't be surprised if he changed his style at least once or twie more before he's done though.

[TheVileOne]

Only 6 more days until TNA on Spike TV :) .

[Wolfsbane]

Hells yeah. I can't wait.

[Twitch]

Only 6 more days until TNA on Spike TV :) .

Yeah, Styles vs. Strong will own :up::up:

[Wolfsbane]

I just saw on WWE.com that Kristal from this years Diva Search got offered a contract. Interesting that they chose her.

[Metamorpho1977]

more ways to watch TNA wrestling. If you have Comcast Digital cable Ondemand, you can go under the Ondemand menu and check sports, then local I believe, and there are a few matches there that you can actually watch on your television. There's a AJ Style's match, and I think the Jeff Jarrett and Jeff Hardy match is on there.

[Wolfsbane]

Sweet. Thanks man.

[Metamorpho1977]

Regardless of what you think of Jeff Jarrett, he's become a really good inring performer

[SLYspyder]

I just saw on WWE.com that Kristal from this years Diva Search got offered a contract. Interesting that they chose her.

i'm very happy they chose her. about ****in time the WWE signed a real black diva

[The Techno Bat]

Regardless of what you think of Jeff Jarrett, he's become a really good inring performer

I Agree...Jeff Jarrett is the one thing that makes TNA go, he is to NWA TNA what HHH is to the WWE. Many hate him but he makes a great champion, he is a great in ring performer and is great on the microphone.

[Wolfsbane]

I saw him wrestle The Alpha Male. He's pretty good in the ring.

[Wolfsbane]

I just watched three TNA matches. As of right now, from what I've seen, I have to say that The Fallen Angel is my favorite.

[NDX]

Actually, I always liked watching Jarrett perform in the ring, it was just his personallity I could live without. As a wrestler he knows his stuff.

Fallen Angel is one of the few guys I'm willing to pay money to see. He worked a show here back in early 2004 where he took on Sonjay Dutt in one of the best matches of the evening (only fell short to a stiff battle between Samoa Joe and Low-Ki). He really is a performer that was overlooked by the bigger companies.

This is why I like TNA. They acknowlwedge that there are good wrestlers already in the business that people know about and want to see. They don't manufacture wrestlers, but rather hire wrestlers that deserve to come to light (something WWE should do more often). It's good to see wrestlers you've actually seen wrestle and met in person on a televised format that isn't WWE.

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, Styles vs. Strong will own :up::up:

Oh yeah.

I hope we see the tag team formerly known as the Dudleyz show up as well.

Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels is the best thing in wrestling today.

[Wolfsbane]

Seeing the Dudleyz again would be great.

[Bad Superman]

Really? I thought that moment was one of the moments that defined the fall of WCW.

Well that and giving David Arquette the championship :o

I'm afraid WWE could be thinking to do the same with Eric. . . .Bishoff. . .

http://www.asstastic.org/images/animated_gif/frank_and_more_puke.gif

[Hunter Rider]

From WZ

- Kenta Kobashi has a meeting scheduled with WWE talent boss John Laurinaitis.
-TNA is keeping a close eye on the Brock Lesnar/New Japan situation. On a side note, TNA and NJPW have a working agreement.

According to Mike Tenay, the TNA booking committee has the next few PPVs already booked.

When asked about Bill Goldberg coming to TNA, Tenay stated on Dave Meltzer's radio show Sunday night that it was a "long shot" in Goldberg's current mindset for the business.

[Bad Superman]

From WZ

- Kenta Kobashi has a meeting scheduled with WWE talent boss John Laurinaitis.
-TNA is keeping a close eye on the Brock Lesnar/New Japan situation. On a side note, TNA and NJPW have a working agreement.

According to Mike Tenay, the TNA booking committee has the next few PPVs already booked.

When asked about Bill Goldberg coming to TNA, Tenay stated on Dave Meltzer's radio show Sunday night that it was a "long shot" in Goldberg's current mindset for the business.

The business is better without Goldberg. He remembers me of the Ultimate Warrior: Fun to watch but their views on the business take away their credibility as performers.

As for Brock Lesnar, if he makes it to TNA that would be huge. I hope he finally decides to resume his wrestling career ASAP, although it might take some time because of his lawsuit against WWE.

[Wolfsbane]

I hope Brock comes back to wrestling in some form. He was always one of my favorites. As for Goldberg, he was awesome, but their better off without him.

[Twitch]

Oh yeah.

I hope we see the tag team formerly known as the Dudleyz show up as well.

Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels is the best thing in wrestling today.

What name will they go under? :confused:

Team 3D?

[Bad Superman]

What name will they go under? :confused:

Team 3D?

I think I read somewhere it'll be The Deadly Brothers. :eek:

[Wolfsbane]

Just not the same.

[Bad Superman]

Here it is. . . yes. . . Their new name is The Deadly Brothers. . .

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/winc/html/article14599.shtml

New Names For The Dudley Boyz Revealed?; Trademark Info Inside

By Tim Brown, WrestlingInc.com Staff

-- Thanks to Richard Lawrence who passed along that the following information is in the U.S. patent and trademark offices. These could be the new names for the team formerly known as The Dudley Boyz in TNA:

Word Mark BROTHER DEVON DEADLY Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment in the nature of wrestling contests Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 78712351 Filing Date September 13, 2005 Current Filing Basis 1B Original Filing Basis 1B Owner (APPLICANT) Bubba Ray Dudley, Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 1101 CYPRESS LOFT PLACE LAKE MARY FLORIDA 32746 Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Word Mark DEADLY DEATH DROP Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment in the nature of wrestling contests Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 78712355 Filing Date September 13, 2005 Current Filing Basis 1B Original Filing Basis 1B Owner (APPLICANT) Bubba Ray Dudley, Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 1101 CYPRESS LOFT PLACE LAKE MARY FLORIDA 32746 Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

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EXCLUSIVE: The Dudleys NEW Costumes; VIEW NOW (>>) -- Thanks to Richard Lawrence who passed along that the following information is in the U.S. patent and trademark offices. These could be the new names for the team formerly known as The Dudley Boyz in TNA:

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[Wolfsbane]

Meh. It'll do I guess. Just not the same as the old school version.

[Hunter Rider]

That sucks:(

[Twitch]

Hunter is that Bruce Lee, where are the gifs? :eek::up:

[Hunter Rider]

Hunter is that Bruce Lee, where are the gifs? :eek::up:

yeah,there arent any gifs i cut it from the trailer for his boxset

[Twitch]

yeah,there arent any gifs i cut it from the trailer for his boxset

:up::up:

[Hunter Rider]

:up::up:
I got one of his Famous short punch as well:D

[Twitch]

I got one of his Famous short punch as well:D

:up::mad::(

[Hunter Rider]

:up::mad::(

do you want a Bruce Lee avvy ?:( ;)

[Wolfsbane]

Trish vs. Victoria tonight for the championship.

[Twitch]

do you want a Bruce Lee avvy ?:( ;)

Yes :o

[3dman27]

that sounds good

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/images/spacer.gif
-- According to Multichannel News, RAW might not be the only thing coming to USA Network when WWE moves over. USA Network president Bonnie Hammer claim that by next year you might be seeing Steve Austin starring in a scription action TV series, as well as on WWE RAW.

Hammer also said other WWE wrestlers could appear as stars of upcoming shows and movies, as a part of the network's new multiyear agreedment with WWE.

Although nothing is etched in stone, Hammer said she could envision a WWE-tinged series that would either lead into or follow RAW on Monday nights.

In related news, Roddy Piper is scheduled to star in a USA original Christmas movie titled Three Wise Guys later this year.

From WWE.com:

WWE Champion John Cena teams with Shawn Michaels tonight on RAW to take on Carlito and Chris Masters in a Tables Match.

[3dman27]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/images/spacer.gif
-- According to Multichannel News, RAW might not be the only thing coming to USA Network when WWE moves over. USA Network president Bonnie Hammer claim that by next year you might be seeing Steve Austin starring in a scription action TV series, as well as on WWE RAW.

scription? whats that?

[jackcool]

I think I read somewhere it'll be The Deadly Brothers. :eek:

I guess that's the best they could do with what they have....:confused:

The Deadlys versus The James Brothers doesn't sound as good though....:(

[Hunter Rider]

Yes :o

How's This ?

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7918/19dr.gif

[Hunter Rider]

I guess that's the best they could do with what they have....:confused:

The Deadlys versus The James Brothers doesn't sound as good though....:(

They shouldv'e just stuck with 3D IMO

[Twitch]

How's This ?

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7918/19dr.gif

:up::up::up::up:

[Twitch]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/images/spacer.gif


WWE Champion John Cena teams with Shawn Michaels tonight on RAW to take on Carlito and Chris Masters in a Tables Match.

That would've been a cool ME if it was against the Dudleys :o

[Wolfsbane]

I like tables matches. Sweet. Why did it have to be Cena though?! I'm starting to dislike him more and more. And again with Masters and Carlito? Jeez.

[Wolfsbane]

I just saw a 20 man 'Gauntlet for the Gold' TNA match. I think I was like this :eek: the whole time, lol.

[Hunter Rider]

From TNAWrestling.com:

MAIN EVENT SET FOR FIRST "iMPACT!" ON SPIKETV
"The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy to face "The Man Beast" Rhino

Nashville,TN( September 26, 2005)-- The main event is set for the first "iMPACT!" on SpikeTV airing this Saturday, October 1 at 11PM, as "The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy will take on "The Man Beast" Rhino.

The bout between the two TNA stars will be a preview of the upcoming "Monster's Ball 2" taking place at "Bound For Glory", as Hardy and Rhino will compete in the melee against Abyss and Sabu.

In addition, we can announce another match set to take place this Saturday night on SpikeTV, as the high-flying stars of the TNA X Division will be in action. There will be a three-way bout featuring Team Canada's captain Petey Williams vs. Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley. This bout will be a preview of the innovative "Ultimate X Match" set for "Bound For Glory", where Sabin, Williams and fellow X Division star Matt Bentley face off

Already announced for the action-packed card this Saturday night is that "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles will kick-off the show against newcomer Roderick Strong.

TNA Entertainment, LLC is a privately held company headquartered in Nashville, TN. TNA programming is currently available in 118 countries. TNA iMPACT debuts on US based Spike TV on Saturday, October 1st. TNA is also available on monthly pay-per-view on iN DEMAND, DIRECTV, Dish Network and TVN as well as Viewer's Choice, Bell ExpressVu and Shaw PPV in Canada.

[Wolfsbane]

Kick ass. It's been a long time since I've seen Jeff Hardy in action.

[jackcool]

They shouldv'e just stuck with 3D IMO

3D sounds like something with movies though :(


Hey, do you think the WWE might pull some **** on Raw tonight? Like say "USA Network is our true home!!!" kind of to stick it to Spike TV for airing TNA commercials during Raw? :confused:

[Wolfsbane]

LOL. That would be funny if they did. I guess in a way, them saying Raw is going home is kinda like that though.

[Hunter Rider]

3D sounds like something with movies though :(


Hey, do you think the WWE might pull some **** on Raw tonight? Like say "USA Network is our true home!!!" kind of to stick it to Spike TV for airing TNA commercials during Raw? :confused:

it still would have been better than the deadly's:(

I think they may pull something,Spike are apparently gonna be watching closely

[jackcool]

I wouldn't be surprised. Spike TV basically told the WWE not to advertise that they're moving to USA on Raw, which is totally unprofessional. But then again, this isn't the first time that Spike TV shat on a wrestling fed.

Back when Raw moved to Spike TV, USA allowed the WWE to say on-air that they were making the move. Pre-emptings of Raw for dog shows aside, USA did treat the WWE rather well.....

[Jason Blood]

all of the dudley moves in Day of Reckoning 2 were replaced by "Deadly"

I think it's pretty funny

[Wolfsbane]

I didn't know that. Lmao.

[Jason Blood]

Trish vs. Victoria tonight for the championship.
finally we get to watch real women's wrestling

it's a shame that they don't really have any others :(

[Wolfsbane]

Double Post. :o

[Wolfsbane]

I know what you mean. Trish and Victoria are the only ones who can really wrestle. And Lita...but she doesn't look to be doing any of that.

[Jason Blood]

I think she has a lot more time off for her leg injury

I'm surprised they gave her a TV role during her injury, while Matt Hardy had the same injury and was put on the shelf

[Wolfsbane]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. But she seems fine now. And yeah, Matt Hardy should've been there during that time. I'm glad he's back.

[Wolfsbane]

Wow...Victoria is a damn good wrestler. Gotta love Ashley for stripping Candice.:D And I'm glad we're seeing more Big Show. He owned Snitsky, lol.

[Donnie Darko]

I loved to hear JR make a reference to the Boogy Woogy Man

[Not Jake]

Snitsky is like the lamest wrestler of all time, what's his gimmick, a foot fetish?:rolleyes: He blows:o


I liked Cena-Michaels vs Carlito-Masters. Cena and Michaels hamming it up.:D Of course the match was sabotaged by Angle and Bischoff at the end, but WWE can't help themselves when it comes to having guys run in and interfere with matches. At least twice a night. It's ridiculous.

[jackcool]

Hey, was Spike TV really censoring stuff on Raw? I couldn't tell because my satellite signal always goes on the blink......

[TheVileOne]

I wouldn't be surprised. Spike TV basically told the WWE not to advertise that they're moving to USA on Raw, which is totally unprofessional. But then again, this isn't the first time that Spike TV shat on a wrestling fed.

Why is it unprofessional? It was the same when they were leaving USA five years ago.

Not to mention that USA is advertising their return.

Also TNN shat on a wrestling fed, NOT Spike TV.


Back when Raw moved to Spike TV, USA allowed the WWE to say on-air that they were making the move. Pre-emptings of Raw for dog shows aside, USA did treat the WWE rather well.....

Nope they NEVER made mention of the TNN move on USA.

I remember reading reports that USA was somewhat bitter about the move.

[jackcool]

Why is it unprofessional? It was the same when they were leaving USA five years ago.

Not to mention that USA is advertising their return.

Also TNN shat on a wrestling fed, NOT Spike TV.



Nope they NEVER made mention of the TNN move on USA.

I remember reading reports that USA was somewhat bitter about the move.

I always heard that they did? :confused:

And TNN, Spike TV, it's all the same damn channel. Instead of showing endless Rollerjam, they just show endless VIP or CSI repeats.

What happens if TNA doesn't perform according to Spike TV's expectations? Are they just going to dump it like they did with ECW and WWE?

Are they going to pick up yet another wrestling fed and just advertise that fed during TNA's broadcast?

[Wolfsbane]

Hey, was Spike TV really censoring stuff on Raw? I couldn't tell because my satellite signal always goes on the blink......
Yeah, they were.

[Wolfsbane]

Raw was pretty good last night. I liked the tables match, and what Flair had to say.

[Jason Blood]

I don't see how the WWE can fill three hours with all of the **** they have planned

I hope they do PPV quality matches

[Bad Superman]

I don't see how the WWE can fill three hours with all of the **** they have planned

I hope they do PPV quality matches

Well at least we know we'll get a good 30 minute wrestling match.

As for the rest. . . . :(

[Savage]

I loved to hear JR make a reference to the Boogy Woogy Man
...What the hell DID happen to the boogeyman? :confused:

[3dman27]

3D sounds like something with movies though :(



or my user namesake

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWInsider.com

Thanks to Mike Ruiz for this: Last Sunday, RVD did a meet-and-greet autograph signing at a Wal-Mart in Covina, CA with 100% of the proceeds going out to help the Red Cross aid those affected by Hurricane Katrina. When I asked RVD about being cleared to come back, he said, "Looks like they're telling me I won't be cleared to come back until the first of the year". He also showed me the scar on his left knee, which quite literally went across his entire patella and then some.


:( :( :(

[Wolfsbane]

:( That sucks.

[Wolfsbane]

Who do you guys think is gonna come over from Smackdown for the Homecoming?

[Twitch]

...What the hell DID happen to the boogeyman? :confused:

He blew both his knees...

[Wolfsbane]

I was looking forward to seeing him, that sucks.

[jackcool]

Whoa....HR got probation? :confused:

[Twitch]

Whoa....HR got probation? :confused:

Wierd :confused:

Is it okay if I register Draven as a name? :o

[jackcool]

I think it's already taken :confused:

And besides, do you really want to when I'm about to go back to that name? :o

[Twitch]

I think it's already taken :confused:

And besides, do you really want to when I'm about to go back to that name? :o

Good Point :o:up:

[jackcool]

So.....more wrestling talk....I hate to say it, but I've actually been enjoying the WWE at this moment more than 2002-2003 :confused:

Yeah sure, it's still a bit "meh" at the moment, but nothing can compare to the crappiness of the Katie Vick angle or the Scott Steiner/Triple H feud.....

[Wolfsbane]

Hehe, I know what you mean.

[Wolfsbane]

Man...I'm so hyped for TNA: Impact. That's gonna rock. I just hope Homecoming is gonna be good too. I know the 30-Minute Iron Man Match will own, and I guess the Ladder Match that night will be good. Plus, anything involving Stone Cold is awesome to me. But the rest of the stuff? I don't know.

[jackcool]

The past few episodes of Raw, IMO, have been pretty enjoyable. And it's great to see guys like Angle or Michaels just bust their asses each week.

And sure Hardcore Homecoming has that Cena/Bischoff match next week, but honestly, it can't be crappier than having Vince McMahon vs. any random wrestler like we were subjected to a couple years back. Besides, the Iron Match and the Ladder match will most likely be kickass. And I'm really hoping they bring in Eddie Guerrero for the Smackdown match :up:

[jackcool]

Man...I'm so hyped for TNA: Impact. That's gonna rock. I just hope Homecoming is gonna be good too. I know the 30-Minute Iron Man Match will own, and I guess the Ladder Match that night will be good. Plus, anything involving Stone Cold is awesome to me. But the rest of the stuff? I don't know.

The Piper's Pit segment with Piper and Mick Foley will be interesting. Those two are great on the mic. I'm hoping the Smackdown match will be good. They should totally bring in a heel like Guerrero. Or even Ken Kennedy just to give him a first chance to do his spiel before a live audience.

[Wolfsbane]

Oh hell yeah. Eddie's still awesome IMO. Oh, and if anyone likes Alter Bridge, go to WWE homepage. They have an acoustic version of one of their songs. It's awesome.

[Savage]

He blew both his knees...
LMAO! Oh wow. That is hilarious to me for some reason. :D Just how the hell did he pull that off?!

And yeah, the WWE has become suprisingly entertaining. I think we're about to head into another one of their good eras. :) Sure it probably won't compare to the Attitude era but good is good nontheless...And like I had my ECW during attitude, I have my TNA now. Williams, Daniels, Sabin and Styles are just...the best.

[Wolfsbane]

Yeah, it's funny. Them going back to the USA and I feel we are gonna be getting some damn good wrestling. And now with TNA, it's just that much better.

[Wolfsbane]

‘Blatant Censorship’
WWE Fights Back
Sept. 27, 2005
Last night’s final broadcast of Monday Night RAW on Spike TV was marred by a senseless decision by the network. At the top of the show, Vince McMahon acknowledged that both Spike and WWE had come a long way in the last five years and thanked Spike for its successful partnership with WWE.

During McMahon’s speech, the audio mysteriously dropped out in mid sentence. For the first time in a five-year relationship, Spike censored WWE. Not for language, nudity or violence, but for an apparently more grievous offense, the utterance of the phrase “USA Network.”

When WWE attempted to inform fans that McMahon’s full comments could be found on WWE.com, Spike again censored the content.

Then the battle began.

Executive Vice President of Television Production Kevin Dunn was shocked by the continuing censorship and decided it was time for the gloves to come off.

“At the end of the day, it was our jobs to tell our fans where they can watch next week’s Monday Night RAW,” said Dunn. “It was an obligation we took very seriously. Initially, we were going to inform the fans of the move to USA in a very judicious and fair fashion. But Spike started censoring us right from the beginning. And then they censored us again later on when we attempted to inform our fans that Vince McMahon’s comments were available on WWE.com.

“At that point, we began to fight back.”

What followed were several back-and-forth conversations among RAW commentators Jim Ross, Jerry “The King” Lawler and Jonathon Coachman where the three mentioned USA Network on numerous occasions.

“We went overboard,” admitted Vince McMahon. “But we did it in a very entertaining fashion. What we did was not mean spirited in any way. What Spike did, however, was mean spirited. At no time leading up to Monday night did Spike TV ever call us and say ‘Okay, this is what we won’t allow.’ We had no warning whatsoever. So for us it was business as usual.”

Or so McMahon thought. While in the ring Monday night, he had no way of knowing his comments were being deleted.

“Once we learned of the censoring, we decided to have a little fun of our own,” said Dunn. “Understanding the censoring technology the way we do, we knew that it was impossible for a technician to cut out a USA reference and listen for another one at the same time. Knowing that, we decided to load up on the USA comments. We knew that they weren’t all going to make their way through, but we also knew a good amount would. At that point, we were having fun with it. And I think it showed.”

While WWE was able to turn this surprising situation into several entertaining and informative segments of television, the topic of censorship is very serious, according to McMahon.

“I abhor blatant censorship,” McMahon said after RAW Monday night. “That’s exactly what happened tonight. I completely understand censorship in terms of FCC regulations. I don’t always agree with them, but I understand them. Of course, the FCC does not allow certain words or graphic nudity, but blatant censorship, which was executed by Spike TV, should not be tolerated. This was just as reprehensible as the flagrant violation of censorship itself.”

The good news is that RAW, the program with the most original episodes of any weekly fictional entertainment program ever on television, is coming home to the USA Network next Monday night.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hehe Vince, JR, King, and Coach are awesome.

Why is everybody ashamed of the fact that they're enjoying WWE programming these days? When did it become "not cool" to like RAW/Smackdown? :confused:

[jackcool]

Apparently when TNA became the new thing to like? :confused:


It's like the Marvel/DC feud all over again :( ;)

[Colossal Spoons]

Well I refuse to try to dislike progamming by the company that's been entertaining me for decades.

[jackcool]

Well, it's not like I dislike it. I still loyally watch the WWE. Have been for a long time and I doubt I will ever stop watching it. Despite what's happening right now in the WWE, and I may complain about a few things every now and then, the WWE is better now than it was a couple years back.....

[Wolfsbane]

I don't know. I liked some of the stuff they were doing a few years back better. Evolution was meh, but they did cool stuff like the Elimination Chamber, and matches just seemed to look alot better than. People did lots of innovative stuff. Now, most people have a 2 or 3 move thing they always do. That's why I am eagerly awaiting the return of RVD.

[jackcool]

I don't know. I liked some of the stuff they were doing a few years back better. Evolution was meh, but they did cool stuff like the Elimination Chamber, and matches just seemed to look alot better than. People did lots of innovative stuff. Now, most people have a 2 or 3 move thing they always do. That's why I am eagerly awaiting the return of RVD.

I was mainly talking about the period after WCW was bought by the WWE. The Invasion angle totally sucked. What a horrible way to do a WWF vs WCW feud. Then right after Invasion, we had that horrible-ass Triple H-Jericho championship feud that was less about Triple H and Jericho feuding and more about the marriage woes of Trips and Steph. Then right after that, we had Triple H basically dominating the main event and making fools of his opponents like Kane, RVD, Steiner.....That whole period just stunk.

[Wolfsbane]

Yeah, that was a crappy time. It really has improved from that though.

[jackcool]

Yeah it has. For one, I'm grateful none of the McMahons have any major part in the WWE anymore, and only Vince shows up on tv every now and then, but only on special occasions.

I've also didn't mind how Triple H jobbed to Benoit and Batista in two straight Wrestlemanias. Just imagine if he had used the same rub-off he gave to Batista to Kane or RVD a couple years back. Those two could've been credible main-eventers as well...

[Wolfsbane]

Yeah, they would've. The McMahons wrestling wasn't really that good, lol. I'm really glad Steph and Shane are out of it. And speaking of Kane, where the hell is he?

[jackcool]

Injured, I think. Which sucks because it would've been a great time for him to shill his book.....

[Twitch]

Yeah it has. For one, I'm grateful none of the McMahons have any major part in the WWE anymore, and only Vince shows up on tv every now and then, but only on special occasions.

I've also didn't mind how Triple H jobbed to Benoit and Batista in two straight Wrestlemanias. Just imagine if he had used the same rub-off he gave to Batista to Kane or RVD a couple years back. Those two could've been credible main-eventers as well...

Didn't Shane fuend with Angle?:confused:

[jackcool]

Didn't Shane fuend with Angle?:confused:

Yeah. He also had a feud with Kane after Kane unmasked.

Basically, the McMahons feuded with everyone and often had feuds with each other. Ugh :down

[Wolfsbane]

Lol. I remember the cheesy Shane vs. Kane thing. Shane threw Kane into the lit dumpster and spat out a cheesy one-liner. I think it was along the lines of "Burn in hell, *****." I remember watching that and just turning the TV off and walking away.

[Donnie Darko]

Well, since it's looking like RVD won't be back til the New Year, how about jus tsave him for a suprise Royal Rumble win?

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah it has. For one, I'm grateful none of the McMahons have any major part in the WWE anymore, and only Vince shows up on tv every now and then, but only on special occasions.

I've also didn't mind how Triple H jobbed to Benoit and Batista in two straight Wrestlemanias. Just imagine if he had used the same rub-off he gave to Batista to Kane or RVD a couple years back. Those two could've been credible main-eventers as well...

Technically speaking Ego H didn't really job cleanly to Benoit. Since it was a Triple Threat match for the championship; the win really wasn't clean and didn't elevate Benoit in any fashion.

You see how when Benoit won the champion, Ego H was still in the spotlight and his feud with Eugene for more highlights than Benoit did, which is quite unfortunate to say the least.

You're right, that if Ego H had set his ego aside and put over Kane, RVD, Jericho, Steiner, Jeff Hardy, and Booker T, their careers would've been even more credible and respectable than they are now.

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't think anything could have saved Steiner's career. Having deformed biceps is only cool for so long. His charisma was somewhere around the Masterpiece/Orlando Jordan level.

[Metamorpho1977]

Shane had some decent matches I thought. That match he had with Big Show was pretty good.

[Wolfsbane]

I don't think anything could have saved Steiner's career. Having deformed biceps is only cool for so long. His charisma was somewhere around the Masterpiece/Orlando Jordan level.
LMAO. How true that is.

[SLYspyder]

i was very impressed with the trish vs. victoria match. victoria is a damn good wrestler. don't know what else i can say.

[Bad Superman]

i was very impressed with the trish vs. victoria match. victoria is a damn good wrestler. don't know what else i can say.

Both are hot. :D

[Wolfsbane]

Meh, Victoria is ok, I guess. Trish is alot hotter.

[Wolfsbane]

I just read that WWE also called Diva Search contestant Elisabeth. :down They should've called Layla damnit!

[jackcool]

I don't think anything could have saved Steiner's career. Having deformed biceps is only cool for so long. His charisma was somewhere around the Masterpiece/Orlando Jordan level.

Steiner was a pretty effective heel in WCW. The WWE just made a big mistake having him be a face when he first appeared for that company. By the time they actually did turn him heel, the damage was already done and Steiner was basically gone.

[Mr. Socko]

I hate victoria, she's a good female wrestler but she is not hot. She doesn't hold a match let alone a torch to Trish.

And what ever happened to the so called "Boogy Man"?

[Wolfsbane]

Apparently, he blew out both his knees.

[jackcool]

Wasn't that question asked just a page ago as well? :confused:

[TheVileOne]

I was mainly talking about the period after WCW was bought by the WWE. The Invasion angle totally sucked. What a horrible way to do a WWF vs WCW feud. Then right after Invasion, we had that horrible-ass Triple H-Jericho championship feud that was less about Triple H and Jericho feuding and more about the marriage woes of Trips and Steph. Then right after that, we had Triple H basically dominating the main event and making fools of his opponents like Kane, RVD, Steiner.....That whole period just stunk.

It really hasn't changed very much :) .

I think RAW finally going back to USA is a good thing.

I always thought their move to TNN 5 years ago was ridiculous.

[jackcool]

It really hasn't changed very much :) .


Now how'd I know you were going to say that? ;)

[TheVileOne]

You knew it because its true.

That simple.

[jackcool]

Not really. For me, the WWE couldn't get as bad as it got during Invasion and 2002-2003.

You may not like it, but hey, opinions differ all the time. :up:

[TheVileOne]

It got better in 2003. At least for Smackdown it did.

[jackcool]

Was that the period when Heyman became the writer for Smackdown very briefly?

[TheVileOne]

Possibly. I think that was more 03-04.

[jackcool]

I get a lot of the years messed up. But the time when Smackdown was the better show was after they got rid of Stephanie as GM and brought in Heyman. Big Show actually became a pretty good champion and Brock Lesner was getting over with the fans. Not to mention that Kurt Angle was champion for a few months:up:

[TheVileOne]

I get a lot of the years messed up. But the time when Smackdown was the better show was after they got rid of Stephanie as GM and brought in Heyman. Big Show actually became a pretty good champion and Brock Lesner was getting over with the fans. Not to mention that Kurt Angle was champion for a few months:up:

Big Show was only champion for 4 weeks in 2002 (other than his 1999 reign). Paul Heyman didn't become GM of Smackdown until late 2003. Brock Lesnar was champion at the time.

[Donnie Darko]

Wasn't that question asked just a page ago as well? :confused:

I think someone turned it into a question about him, even though I (and Jim Ross) was actually referring to The Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant, a wrestler in the 80s.

[3dman27]

I always thought their move to TNN 5 years ago was ridiculous.what makes you say that?

[DeadFeckin'Last]

Did anyone catch what the Ultimate Warrior had to say on Byte This last night? Man, that guy is p***ed. Has anyone bought the "Self-destruction" DVD? Is it good?

[punishermax]

Yeah, its pretty good.

[Bad Superman]

Could WWE be thinking of making RAW a 3 hour show by uniting both brands and letting go part of the lower card talent???

[Hunter Rider]

Technically speaking Ego H didn't really job cleanly to Benoit. Since it was a Triple Threat match for the championship; the win really wasn't clean and didn't elevate Benoit in any fashion.

You see how when Benoit won the champion, Ego H was still in the spotlight and his feud with Eugene for more highlights than Benoit did, which is quite unfortunate to say the least.

You're right, that if Ego H had set his ego aside and put over Kane, RVD, Jericho, Steiner, Jeff Hardy, and Booker T, their careers would've been even more credible and respectable than they are now.

The reson for HHH still being in the spotlight when Benoit was champ was b/c Benoit is not a good storyline guy
Kane is not nor will he ever be the top guy he is an ugly freak best suited to personal feuds not title runs,
Jeff Hardy is still not Main event he is to incosistent and to unreliable,
Booker is mid card thats why he is no further up the card,

When running a wrestling promotion you dont have your top guy job to every semi popular face on the roster to try and get them over,you save them to put over the guys that are future show carriers like Orton,Cena and Batista
The only 2 there he should have jobbed to are Y2J and RVD

[TheVileOne]

what makes you say that?

XFL :p .

And that TNN was in a lot less homes than USA. So they took a ratings hit right off the bat. And they steadily declined from then on.

[TheVileOne]

The reson for HHH still being in the spotlight when Benoit was champ was b/c Benoit is not a good storyline guy

This is BS. At the time in early 2003. Benoit was having a world title feud with Kurt Angle...and HHH with Steiner. Benoit's feud and storyline were great as were there matches. They had compelling interviews and segments.

HHH on the other hand was challenging Scott Steiner to...arm wrestling matches and...muscle-flexing posedowns. Please gimme a ****ing break.

Benoit's a great storyline guy, the fact of the matter is that WWE puts him in crap storylines like with this Orlando Jordan putz. Jordan who is a talent vacuum.

And the night after Backlash in April 2004, Benoit cut what was one of the best and most emotional wrestling promos I've ever seen. People just don't like to acknowledge it because they have this perception that Benoit is not a good "Storyline" or "interview guy.


Kane is not nor will he ever be the top guy he is an ugly freak best suited to personal feuds not title runs,

Pretty much.


Jeff Hardy is still not Main event he is to incosistent and to unreliable,
Booker is mid card thats why he is no further up the card,

He's also sloppy as hell now.

Booker T was always mis-used by the WWE. They had a chance to make him world champ in 2003 and they blew it because of Ego H.

His skills have seriously deteriorated and he's lost quite a few steps. He's pretty much drifting right now and its time for him to retire methinks.

[Hunter Rider]

This is BS. At the time in early 2003. Benoit was having a world title feud with Kurt Angle...and HHH with Steiner. Benoit's feud and storyline were great as were there matches. They had compelling interviews and segments.

He was talking about when HHH dropped the strap to him at WM20

HHH on the other hand was challenging Scott Steiner to...arm wrestling matches and...muscle-flexing posedowns. Please gimme a ****ing break.

booking commity made that match cos they had payed Steiner so much money

Benoit's a great storyline guy, the fact of the matter is that WWE puts him in crap storylines like with this Orlando Jordan putz. Jordan who is a talent vacuum.
Benoit isnt a great storyline guy,he has no charisma and weak bland mic skills,he is an awesome wrestler and highly respected but you would lose a substantial part o the audienece if he was the top man week after week

And the night after Backlash in April 2004, Benoit cut what was one of the best and most emotional wrestling promos I've ever seen. People just don't like to acknowledge it because they have this perception that Benoit is not a good "Storyline" or "interview guy.

If you say so



Booker T was always mis-used by the WWE. They had a chance to make him world champ in 2003 and they blew it because of Ego H.

His skills have seriously deteriorated and he's lost quite a few steps. He's pretty much drifting right now and its time for him to retire methinks


There was never a time to make a mid level guy like him champion,he is solid pro and crap on the mic
RVD should have had his shot at that time

[Hunter Rider]

So i saw my first TNA matches the other day and i was impressed with Aj and Daniels they are both very good,I also like Abyss and Chris Sabin

I thought Monty Brown and Apollo were terrbile but other than that the rest were pretty decent performers,
Looks like they have some great tag teams with AMW and The Naturals both looking excellent

This Match between JJ and Nash is a crap choice it will suck ass but i guess it will sell tickets and give those who don't know the brand a chance to see The X division and hopefully win some new fans over

[Lobo]

Good to see you back hunter ;)

[Hunter Rider]

Good to see you back hunter ;)

thanks:up:

Breaking News: WWE Employee Fired From Company

Credit: PWInsider.com

World Wrestling Entertainment today announced that they have released Raymond Rawls (aka wrestler Rick Michaels of NWA Wildside fame) from his position within the company following pleading guilty to sexual exploitation of a minor today in Georgia.

Rawls had been working as a tailor for the company, designing and creating outfits for the wrestlers, something he had been doing as a side project while wrestling independently.

[TheVileOne]

He was talking about when HHH dropped the strap to him at WM20


I can't think of a more compelling and great moment in wrestling than the main event at WM 20.

And Benoit cut an awesome promo against HHH the following night. Its not his fault they went with that Eugene/HHH fiasco.


booking commity made that match cos they had payed Steiner so much money


It still sucked while Benoit and Angle were carrying Smackdown and the WWE on their backs at the time.


Benoit isnt a great storyline guy,he has no charisma and weak bland mic skills,he is an awesome wrestler and highly respected but you would lose a substantial part o the audienece if he was the top man week after week


Again this is a misconception. I can list many instances where Benoit's cut great promos, people just won't acknowledge them because they just like to subscribe to the popular belief that Benoit sucks on the mic and has no charisma. Bull****. Benoit has charisma, and he shows it in the ring, he's intense and he sells his performance better than anyone else. The segments he's recently had on Smackdown where he makes a cup of coffee or goes to the bathroom were hilarious and shows he does in fact have personality, they were not bland at all.



There was never a time to make a mid level guy like him champion,he is solid pro and crap on the mic
RVD should have had his shot at that time

RVD's another guy that's been horribly mis-used. And like Benoit people think he has no mic skills, when at One Night Stand he cuts a fantastic promo. That wasn't a fluke either.

[Hunter Rider]

I can't think of a more compelling and great moment in wrestling than the main event at WM 20.

It was a great moment for a deserving champion,i never said it wasn't









Again this is a misconception. I can list many instances where Benoit's cut great promos, people just won't acknowledge them because they just like to subscribe to the popular belief that Benoit sucks on the mic and has no charisma. Bull****. Benoit has charisma, and he shows it in the ring, he's intense and he sells his performance better than anyone else. The segments he's recently had on Smackdown where he makes a cup of coffee or goes to the bathroom were hilarious and shows he does in fact have personality, they were not bland at all.



Oh please you just sound like a Benoit fanboy,he sells his intenstity and desire in the ring i'll give you that but ive watched him for the last 9 years and i havent seen him cut anything but mediocre promos

[jackcool]

Big Show was only champion for 4 weeks in 2002 (other than his 1999 reign). Paul Heyman didn't become GM of Smackdown until late 2003. Brock Lesnar was champion at the time.

Damn, I keep getting the years messed up. It seems like 2000-2003 have become a huge blur to me :confused: :(

[jackcool]

The reson for HHH still being in the spotlight when Benoit was champ was b/c Benoit is not a good storyline guy
Kane is not nor will he ever be the top guy he is an ugly freak best suited to personal feuds not title runs,
Jeff Hardy is still not Main event he is to incosistent and to unreliable,
Booker is mid card thats why he is no further up the card,

When running a wrestling promotion you dont have your top guy job to every semi popular face on the roster to try and get them over,you save them to put over the guys that are future show carriers like Orton,Cena and Batista
The only 2 there he should have jobbed to are Y2J and RVD

You know, I personally like Kane. He had quite a bit of mobility for a guy his size and he did show some decent mic skills right before the roster split (I totally loved that little backstage interaction he did with the Rock and Hogan). I could've honestly have seen him as champion, albeit for a short reign. However, his character got totally ****ed over the past few years. If it wasn't that whole Katie Vick thing, it was how badly they messed up his unmasking. His character is beyond help right now.

Just imagine if they actually pushed Kane similar to how they would've pushed Batista a few months back. They could've (and I totally stress this word) had Kane be a believable enough champion.

[Hunter Rider]

You know, I personally like Kane. He had quite a bit of mobility for a guy his size and he did show some decent mic skills right before the roster split (I totally loved that little backstage interaction he did with the Rock and Hogan). I could've honestly have seen him as champion, albeit for a short reign. However, his character got totally ****ed over the past few years. If it wasn't that whole Katie Vick thing, it was how badly they messed up his unmasking. His character is beyond help right now.

Just imagine if they actually pushed Kane similar to how they would've pushed Batista a few months back. They could've (and I totally stress this word) had Kane be a believable enough champion.

The only masked champions ive ever really liked were Vader and Foley
To me Kane even a few years ago always felt a bit like Taker in that personal feuds worked better for him than title runs
When he took his mask off the botched it but his push as a monster worked well as he destroyed Shane Linda RVD etc but they missed the boat having him sqaushed by Taker at WM20

[Wolfsbane]

Kane never should've been unmasked, IMO.

[jackcool]

In honor of TNA making it's debut on Spike TV, Wrestlecrap, well...craps on TNA's early days.

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/classic1.html

Yeah, it's not that pretty, but at least we can say that the company has shown considerable improvement :D

[TheVileOne]

Oh please you just sound like a Benoit fanboy,he sells his intenstity and desire in the ring i'll give you that but ive watched him for the last 9 years and i havent seen him cut anything but mediocre promos

You can't tell me his promo the night after Backlash was mediocre. It was better than any of HHH's boring promos where he says the same BS over and over again.

[3dman27]

XFL :p .

And that TNN was in a lot less homes than USA. So they took a ratings hit right off the bat. And they steadily declined from then on.
i'm afraid you've lost me thevileone
what does vince macmahon's failed attempt at a football league have to do with the wwe switching neworks?

[Hunter Rider]

You can't tell me his promo the night after Backlash was mediocre. It was better than any of HHH's boring promos where he says the same BS over and over again.

IT was ok but HHH has cut lots better especially the "choke" one he cut at the contract sigining a few weeks before
Im not gonna keep on with this,I respect Benoit,he is one of my favourites and one of the best in ring performers ever he just isnt a good mic worker IMO

[Twitch]

In honor of TNA making it's debut on Spike TV, Wrestlecrap, well...craps on TNA's early days.

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/classic1.html

Yeah, it's not that pretty, but at least we can say that the company has shown considerable improvement :D

Speaking of TNA we should get a thread promoting TNA to former wrestling fans :up:

[3dman27]

good idea

[GLfan]

Tonights the night TNA debuts on Spike right? 11pm I believe? No it's tomorrow!! :confused:

[TheVileOne]

i'm afraid you've lost me thevileone
what does vince macmahon's failed attempt at a football league have to do with the wwe switching neworks?

A big part of their TNN move had to do with XFL and showing XFL games on TNN.

[jackcool]

Was that just an agreement to show old XFL games on TNN? :confused:

[TheVileOne]

I believe they showed regular games.

[Metamorpho1977]

Hey, does Carlito remind anyone else of AC Slater, and no I don't mean Mario Lopez, I mean AC Slater his character from Saved by the Bell.

[jackcool]

I believe they showed regular games.

On TNN? I think it was just NBC?

Or does NBC own TNN/Spike TV or something like that? :confused:

[TheVileOne]

No, TNN's viacom.

They did show games on TNN though.

[jackcool]

Oh. Probably something we didn't get on TNN here. Like always :down

[Hunter Rider]

Hey, does Carlito remind anyone else of AC Slater, and no I don't mean Mario Lopez, I mean AC Slater his character from Saved by the Bell.

Not really he reminds me of a guy who needs to go back to OVW and take his bodybuilding buddy with him:up:

RAW was quite good this week IMO,even the tables match was bearable and had it's moments.
The tag feud with Cade/Murdoch and Vis/Venis may be entertaining i think and The first segment with Vinnie/Angle/HBK was excellent and Home coming has some pretty good stuff lined up despite some of the ego strokingly pointless returns

[Matt Murdock]

Guess who.:o

[Hunter Rider]

Guess who.:o

Sabretooth:confused:

[Matt Murdock]

Sabretooth:confused:How'd you know?:( :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

How'd you know?:( :mad:
your the only one of us that hasnt posted in ages and i knew you had been hit by Katrina so you needed a new SN
how's things ?
good to have you back:up:

[Matt Murdock]

your the only one of us that hasnt posted in ages and i knew you had been hit by Katrina so you needed a new SN
how's things ?
good to have you back:up:Ok i guess.I've been able to read the SHH! boards,but I've been through so many computers I could never register.Once I get back to my old one I'll probably go back to Sabretooth :up:


What's up in wrestling recently?

[Hunter Rider]

Ok i guess.I've been able to read the SHH! boards,but I've been through so many computers I could never register.Once I get back to my old one I'll probably go back to Sabretooth :up:


What's up in wrestling recently?

Cena and Batista are still the champs and Angle and Eddie are the new number one contenders

LOD still have the SD tag straps and Benoit is the US champ
The new team of Murdoch and Cade are the RAW tag champs and Flair is the IC champ
Currently Chris Masters is being way over pushed on RAW

Next monday is the 3 hour RAW home coming show as they switch back to the USA network

line up is:

WWE title-Cena vs Bischoff
Loser leaves RAW money in the bank ladder match- Edge vs Hardy
30 minute Iron Man match-HBK vs Angle
Bra and Panties match-Trish/Ashley vs Torrie/Candice and Victoria
Return of HHH,Austin and Hogan
Pipers pit with Foley



On TNA JJ is champ again and AJ is the X division champ,they will defend their titles against Nash and Daniels respectively at the next TNA PPV

[Matt Murdock]

Cena vs. Bischoff?WTF?

[Twitch]

Also to point out we had two promising newcomers debut on Smackdown, Ken Kenedy (furture US champ possibly) and Bob Lashsley has a **** load of college credits and stuff :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Cena vs. Bischoff?WTF?
Mcmahon made the match when Bischoff tried to strip Cena of the belt

[Hunter Rider]

Also to point out we had two promising newcomers debut on Smackdown, Ken Kenedy (furture US champ possibly) and Bob Lashsley has a **** load of college credits and stuff :up:

Yep:up:
Kennedy in particular has the all round game ,he has mic skills,personality and in ring ability.
With a bit of cultivating Lashley should do well

[Matt Murdock]

Also to point out we had two promising newcomers debut on Smackdown, Ken Kenedy (furture US champ possibly) and Bob Lashsley has a **** load of college credits and stuff :up:I've seen Kennedy,and he is amazing.He reminds me of Ric Flair when he's on the mic.Problem is,I can see WWE pussying him out like Cena in a few years.:(

[Twitch]

Yep:up:
Kennedy in particular has the all round game ,he has mic skills,personality and in ring ability.
With a bit of cultivating Lashley should do well

Lashley, for him to develop well a good idea would be to reform the Harlem Heat with Booker. Have them have a tag tile reign then break them up again :up:

[Twitch]

*coughhuntercough*

http://img200.exs.cx/img200/9595/primetimedutt7dy.gif

[ObakeTora]

I've seen Kennedy,and he is amazing.He reminds me of Ric Flair when he's on the mic.Problem is,I can see WWE pussying him out like Cena in a few years.:(


Don't forget to mention the dissapointing return of the NWO. All they brought back were the outsiders. C'mon, Mcmahon.

Btw, how do you Warrior fans feel about the DVD being released? Im a Warrior fan and I hate the idea of Mcmahon making a buck off of his problems.

Damn even though Ray looks like hes developing a beer belly (170 lbs) the guy is still light on his feet. Who do you think will win Mysterio or Kennedy? My vote, a JBL assisted win.

[NDX]

I just bought the Warrior DVD this morning. I enjoyed it (actually had a few matches I enjoyed on it from my childhood). Some of what you watch you sit there and say "yeah, that sounds about right from what I heard," and others you say "man, that is bull****."

I choose not to make an opinion from a video that doesn't have the main focus state his mind. I know not all first hand opinions are biased, but everyone in the video seemed to dislike the man. Myself, I want to purchase the Warrior shoot video and see what he says. Then compare the stories.

But the video did really paint Warrior as a prick.

[punishermax]

Don't forget to mention the dissapointing return of the NWO. All they brought back were the outsiders. C'mon, Mcmahon.

Btw, how do you Warrior fans feel about the DVD being released? Im a Warrior fan and I hate the idea of Mcmahon making a buck off of his problems.

Damn even though Ray looks like hes developing a beer belly (170 lbs) the guy is still light on his feet. Who do you think will win Mysterio or Kennedy? My vote, a JBL assisted win.

I was a Warrior fan when I was a kid, and I have no problem with Vince making money on a douchebag like Warrior.

[GLfan]

I really liked the Warrior in the early days, the crowd use to go nuts. The only thing I've heard about warrior was from Bobby Heenan, who said that he told Warrior before a match not to closeline him due to a neck injury. Warrior did it anyway, that's not right. Based on other wrestling bios you're suppose to protect the other guy. Another thing I disagree with is the dvd cut out Jesse Ventura's commentary during the Warrior/Hogan match from Wrestlemania 6, WWE is too cheap and didn't want to pay Ventura any royalties. It's part of wrestling history, McMahon is an idiot!

[Hunter Rider]

Here Ya Go Twitch

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[Twitch]

Here Ya Go Twitch

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3646/18tn.gif

:up::up::up::up:

[Hunter Rider]

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Brock arriveing in Japan,he supposedly has a new long hair stylehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

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[Twitch]

Wait is Brock working in Japan till the WWE calls him up? :confused:

[Wolfsbane]

I thought he decided to have no involvement with the WWE? That's what I read.