Wrestling

[SLYspyda]

whats the big deal if bradshaw is the champion, let him have his time as a champion, and he's a bad guy too

[OtepApe]

As am i.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by SLYspyda
whats the big deal if bradshaw is the champion, let him have his time as a champion, and he's a bad guy too

The big deal is that, upto a few months ago, this guy was a jobber. He was'nt on SmackDown on a weekly basis. And now he's the champion? Come on. I understand that they're trying to build the guy, but he's not quite there yet. Giving the belt to Bradshaw on SmackDown is like giving Test the belt on RAW. It just isn't right...Especially when there's guys like Kane, Rob Van Dam, Booker T (among others) busting their asses week after week and get nothing. I just don't get it. This was a HORRIBLE move by the WWE. The worst move since the whole Kane/Kate Vick angle a few years back, and probably the worst decision that has been made when it comes to the WWE title EVER! :mad:

[Savage]

But Bradshaw has been in the biz longer than alot of the wrestlers who HAVE become champions. I mean look at Brock Lesnar. Bradshaw was there with his whole cowboy thing, the acolytes, the APA, back to the cowboy thing, and now this stockbroker thing. It feels like he's going nowhere. The guy has always been one of my favorite wrestlers not because of his gimicks, but because he kicks some damn good ass and I say it's about damn time.

[Eric Draven]

I don't think Bradshaw deserves it because he's not a really good wrestler. I liked his millionaire gimmick at first.....until he actually wrestled a match and it just showed him boring as hell again. Plus, the WWE keeps trying to push the guy repeatedly and each time, they've failed because the fans don't really give a **** about him. Oh well, the WWE's always had a hard-on for Bradshaw since 1997....

[Jason Blood]

Lol

the fire alarm is going off while RAW is on

[Go Web Go!]

How bad is Lita's acting? Dear God! :(

[Jason Blood]

YES!

Matt beat Kane's stupid ass!

[Go Web Go!]

Meh. Hardy is just a stepping stone for Kane. :o

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
How bad is Lita's acting? Dear God! :( yeah, she aint got s*** on susan lucci

[dr. loomis]

so, do you think kane and lita will have that dark wedding this year on oct 31st? i read that like the end of last year

[Eric Draven]

Holy smokes did Sgt. Slaughter lose a ****load of weight or what?


And Chris Jericho fights the Batista clone in the last PPV. Now he fights the real Batista in Vengeance :p

[zer00]

Didn't watch raw.

Did anything dumber happen?

[GLfan]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
watch NWA TNA, the X Division makes all other Cruiserweight/high flying/extreme divisions look tame. I agree 100%!! Plus the women are more Extreme than the WWE's too.

[GLfan]

WRESTLING NEWS:

*SPOILER* - Details On Plans For Major New WWE Character
Story By: Ben Johnson
June 28, 2004

In an effort to prevent another case of ending the push of a wrestler believed to have tons of potential, WWE has new plans for Garrison Cade.

Cade, currently a RAW wrestler, will portray a character that imitates Shawn Michaels. Set to be called "H.B. Cade," the new character will get wrestling gear similar to that of HBK

Live Notes From The Great American Bash: Paul Bearer's Death?
Story By: Keith Wilcutt
June 28, 2004

First, i want to let everyone know that it was not Paul Bearer in the glass case as you can imagine. They have some man with horrible mask and make-up job in the box. That was a huge part of the reason they never showed any true close-ups during the match. The first time Paul Heyman hit the switch to let the cement go into the box it took to long for the truck's barrel to get rolling and nothing happen. The production team automatically showed a shot of Paul Bearer being knee high in cement with honestly not a drop had fallen. Paul Heyman eventually left the truck due to having complications with it so that's part of the reason he was just in the middle of the entrance. The whole time the switch wasn't even on cement continuously flowed into the box.

After the PPV went off the air they immediately opened the box door and all the cement came slipping out. The paramedics had a hard time getting "Paul Bearer" into a stretcher before hauling him off to the back.

During the first Main Event with the bullrope match it they were having some electrical problems. They were testing the lights on each turnbuckle and apparently they were working fine. Some how during the match the person who was suppose to signal the lights for the correct person had a mix up and signed a turnbuckle that JBL never touched. Another turnbuckle throughout the match whenever hit kept continously blinking on and off.

[The Batman]

Originally posted by Savage
Yeah I just saw it...Man the WWE better have one hell of a good explaination for that. Taker better be going into a good angle with this. Tonight just proved more that he is without a doubt THE greatest WWE character ever...I mean with the supernatural angle and powers and everything. I mean that lightning strike when he got pissed was freakin awesome.


I think I know why Taker "killed" bearer...


Bearer became a liability. Heyman used Bearer to take advantage of Takers power, and Taker dosent want that, so with Bearer gone, no one will be able to take control of him...

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Let me guess,Cade will get the World Heavyweight Championship and get pushed week after week. It worked with Bradshaw.:rolleyes:

Cade actually has potential...

[Savage]

Originally posted by The Batman
I think I know why Taker "killed" bearer...


Bearer became a liability. Heyman used Bearer to take advantage of Takers power, and Taker dosent want that, so with Bearer gone, no one will be able to take control of him... hmm...Makes sense. He's a total loose canon now.:)

[dr. loomis]

cade does have potential. i like batista and orton, but i think smackdown is like a curse, and if either one went there, their career would plummet. i cant think of anything that smackdown can do right now to improve the show.

[SpideyInATree]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
cade does have potential. i like batista and orton, but i think smackdown is like a curse, and if either one went there, their career would plummet. i cant think of anything that smackdown can do right now to improve the show.

Smackdown can improve once they give credit to the guys who should be given credit. Bring back the Hardcore division and put more emphasis on the cruiserweight division...make it extra competitive and spectacular like it was in the WCW days. It's possible...but unfortunately, there are other powers who run the company. They'll just make Smackdown more cheesy and stupid...eventually causing this stupid "separate" brands to end.

Advise for Smackdown? Elevate Booker T and RVD...they are huge key players that could really help Smackdown.

[Soundwave]

Lita is the worst actress I've ever seen. Eight more months of this crap. :(

Kind of hard to take Kane seriously as a monster when he taps out to someone half his size. :rolleyes:

But RAW is still way better than Smackdown. Bradshaw as champion? Are you ****ing kidding me?

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Cade actually has potential...

He may. I haven't been that impressed with him right now, but that could be due to the fact that he just has a boring as hell gimmick right now. But you never know, the "H.B Cade" gimmick might turn out to be similar to John Cena going rap.

[GLfan]

Originally posted by The Batman
I think I know why Taker "killed" bearer...


Bearer became a liability. Heyman used Bearer to take advantage of Takers power, and Taker dosent want that, so with Bearer gone, no one will be able to take control of him... You are correct!!!There are hints of it on tomorrow's Smackdown.

[Savage]

Originally posted by Soundwave
Lita is the worst actress I've ever seen. Eight more months of this crap. :(

Kind of hard to take Kane seriously as a monster when he taps out to someone half his size. :rolleyes:

But RAW is still way better than Smackdown. Bradshaw as champion? Are you ****ing kidding me? Yeah Kane tapping out seemed a bit odd to me too. Guess they just wanted to me the fans happy...Well try anyway.

[Go Web Go!]

On SmackDown The Undertaker says that he cared about Paul Bearer and "destroyed" him, so Heyman would'nt even be able to imagine what he has coming his way. Lets see where this story goes...

[zer00]

Nowhere.

[OtepApe]

I have been just dissappointed with WWE as a whole lately. Smackdown is the worst show out of the two but Raw is not golden either. WWE seriously need to buck their ideas up.

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Yeah.I was shocked out how good Sgt. is looking these days.

I just wish they'd quit making these legends job to no talent hack losers like those frenchies.

[zer00]

Power went out. bad storm.

What happened on smackdown?

And with taker?

Or was it the same old dumb s***.

[GLfan]

Shelton Benjamin's Injury/Garrison Cade, Nowinski Update
Story By: Ryan Cain
July 01, 2004

(Credit: PWTorch Newsletter)

Word continues to spread that Christopher Nowinski may never be able to wrestle again. This is due to a concussion syndrome.

Shelton Benjamin will remain out of action with a broken bone in his hand. This injury was suffered at the hands of Garrison Cade during a recent match on RAW.

Cade has yet to receive any backstage heat as a result of injuring Benjamin, despite criticisms beforehand of his clumsy wrestling style.

Thanks to Pwinsider.com for the following:

Former Tough Enough winner Linda Miles (Shaniqua), the former manager of the Basham Brother's on Smackdown was recently sent down to OVW so that she could recieve a little more seasoning. However, since being sent down she has butted heads with OVW's Jim Cornette.

Miles & Cornette were involved in a shouting match last week after Miles reportedly "called a horrible" match with Jillian Hall at OVW's TV Taping. The blame of course fell squarely on Miles who then tried to place the blame on other excuses which Cornette would not accept.

Miles ended off being pulled from all the OVW house shows this past weekend and her scheduled match against Victoria at OVW's big Six Flags event was canceled. Miles did return to train this week, but shortly after she arrived she left again. Much of the WWE talent is unhappy with Miles, since she "won" her WWE contract and does not appreciate it.
There has been allot of speculation backstage about Vince McMahon wanting to set up an Eddie Guerrero/Mordecai feud after SummerSlam. It’s been said backstage that Vince is avoiding the fact that Mordecai, who he created, hasn’t really adapted well with the fans.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by zer00
Power went out. bad storm.

What happened on smackdown?

And with taker?

Or was it the same old dumb s***. i'd like to ask that myself

[GLfan]

SMACKDOWN RESULTS BELOW
Angle gloated about doing the right thing at GAB and justice being served

Show starts...

Layfield came in to celebrate his title victory. Ring was laid out with red, white, and blue decorations on the ropes and the canvas was red. Name drops Ronald Reagan, saying its "Morning in America" again and how he'll be a great champion to everyone. Says Angle allowed him to fight anyone who was at the Bash last night, except Eddie Guerrero.

Booker vs. RVD vs. Dupree - winner will be the #1 contender for the U.S. Title. Pretty good spots, with the crowd popping for the Spinaroonie and RVD's first frog splash and Rolling Thunder. Heat was given for the Dupree Shuffle. Finish was RVD hitting his second splash on Dupree (Booker caught one first), but Booker pulled him out the ring and covered Dupree for the win. Kind of a lame finish.

Bradshaw goes into the locker room, and says he picks "a Dudley". Of course, it turns out to be Spike. Cena, Rey, Dudleys (no Spike), and Booker were in the skit.

Luther Raines talks with Charles Robinson and reviews the Sable/Torrie match on a elevision... complains about some kind of controversy. Says if there are any problems with the rematch, there will be trouble.

Torrie beats Sable with a DDT. Terrible match, as you could have expected. Sable didn't wait 3 seconds to sell the DDT or anything. No controversy though. Afterwards, Angle comes on the Titan and says although there were no problems, he couldn't let Raines get away with last night, so he sends Raines to fight him in a match. Raines catches him and starts pounding him until Haas comes out for the save. The funny thing about this is that they did this spot twice. I guess whoever was booking didn't like the first one, so he made them do it over again just before the main event.

Heyman comes out, and gloats about getting the Undertaker to finish off Bearer. Says he is due for a thank you by the Undertaker and he will get that "with interest". Pyro explodes and Undertaker comes up on the Titan and tells Heyman if he's willing to do that to Bearer, the only person he cared about, imagine what he's going to do to him. Heyman acts like a scared rabbit.

Mysterio beats Mordecai - Disappointing, with Mysterio of course on defense most of the time. He did get in the 619, but the crowd didn't pop for it until right after he did it. Finish was Mordecai going for that Razor's Edge/crucifix bomb, but Rey was able to turn
it into the hurricanrana for the win. Is that his first loss?

The Dudleys talk to Spike. They accuse Spike of doing something to get the shot. They say they have his back, because they are family, and they "know" if he wins the title he's going to give one of them the first title shot. Spike says he'd rather do it on his own.

Kenzo Suzuki comes out, yells some jibberish in Japanese with the crowd saying "what" after every pause, then Cena comes out. He clowns him and his valet for a while, then has production replay the promo bit by bit and attempts to translate. Mostly gutter humor, talking about constipation and how Kenzo likes going to gay nude beaches. Funny spot on the valet, translating one statement as Kenzo taking her to see "White Girls" (clowning her because of all the white makeup on her face). Crowd loved it, but I doubt if it goes over on TV that well.

Main event...of course Bradshaw squashed Spike. Spike got in some offense, with the stomps in the corner and the Dudley Dog, which got a 2 count the crowd popped over, but Bradshaw gave him two short clotheslines (ala Jake Roberts) and a power bomb.

As soon as the bell rang, Eddie's music came up and he came to the ring. They fought, and Bradshaw bailed. Before he got back into his car, Eddie told him to hold on, and informed him that he had a clause in his contract when he won the WWE title saying he gets a rematch of a match of HIS choosing, and it will be a cage match in two weeks. Bradshaw ranting as the show ends.

After the show, Eddie left and Bradshaw came back out, called Eddie a "stupid Hispanic punk" or something like that, and clowned the crowd for a while for trailer parks and confederate flags. Typical stuff.

He challenged Eddie or anyone else to come from the back to face him so he'd kick his ass and the Undertaker came out with a loud pop. Once Taker got in the ring, Bradshaw played scared and tried to talk himself into fighting him, saying he was a Hardcore Champion and was a tough guy. Finally he tried to fake getting out the ring and tried to hit Taker, Taker blocked it, hit him a few times, chokeslam, and eventually the Tombstone. Taker then grabbed the title and laid it on Bradshaw and left. Bradshaw got
up after Taker left, doing a little selling, clowned the fans again, and left.

[zer00]

guess I didn't miss that much.

[Go Web Go!]

No, you did'nt miss anything at all. It's just really sad how this show gets worse and worse every week. You would think that the people behind the show would correct their mistakes, but from the looks of things they're not even trying.

[spidertwit]

Anybody in the Uk still wondering what the big announcement to be made on Sky tv? RAW is coming to the UK, and not one of their excellent, but cop-out house shows, you know what I mean, belts never changing hands, great to see them live but not a part on the TV, the actual weekly RAW is coming to the UK! How bloody great is that?

Sorry if this is old news, but RAW was just on in the UK, and some people might not check the wrestling news websites.

[Jason Blood]

I'm going to give my opinion on some of the people on the Smackdown Roster (ok I couldn't really think of too many feuds to create but...)

Akio should start a group with Kenzo

Bill DeMott should wrestle

Billy Gunn should go for the tag titles with Holly and then possibly go for the US title

Billy Kidman should go for the CW title

Booker T should tag with Jindrak

Charlie Haas should go for the US title

Funaki should join Kenzo's group or feud with him

Hardcore Holly should go for the Tag titles with Gunn and then go for the US title

Jamie Noble should go for the CW title

Luther Reigns should just do whatever Angle says

Kenzo Suzuki create a group with a japanese theme

Kurt Angle should start walking again

Mark Jindrak should tag with Booker

Mordecai should feud with Taker for the #1 contender spot after a tournament

Rene Dupree should feud with Cena for a while

Rob Van Dam should try for the US title then lose weight and go for the CW title

Sakoda should form a group with Kenzo and Akio

Scotty 2 Hotty should stop jobbing

Shannon Moore should start feuding with Rey (by interrupting all of his matches and beating his ass)

Theodore Long should start managing Booker

Undertaker should feud with Mordecai and just go on a rampage to get a shot at the title

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I guess that means Miles won't be returning?

You say it like it's a bad thing. I won't complain if she gets the boot. I never liked the girl, and that goes all the way back to her days on Tough Enough. It's a shame though because the other finalists of the show that did'nt make it into the WWE are probably still out working their asses off while this girl is whining and complaining about her current role.

[3dman27]

maybe its a good thing i'm taking a break from watching wwe shows

[Savage]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
<SNIP> wow. I agree with just about everything you said.:)

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I just read that they're sending Mordecai back to "Ohio Valley Wrestling" to work on his in-ring skills. Yeah, apparently, people thought he wasn't ready for the push they were prepared to give him, and that may explain his loss to Rey Mysterio on Smackdown Thursday.

According to Wrestleview.com, you won't be seeing Mordecai on WWE tv "anytime soon".

Just another case of the WWE rushing a young kid up to the main roster only to send them back a few weeks later. I guess they think these younger wrestlers can help their ratings and what not, but guess what: NOT HAPPENING! Well, atleast not on the SmackDown side of things. Guys who have come up to RAW from OVW seem to do pretty well...

[Metamorpho1977]

they need to bring Stevie Ray back and reform Harlem Heat.


http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pic/h/harlemheat/07.jpg

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Savage
wow. I agree with just about everything you said.:)

thanks

*note*

why isn't Ultimo on the roster list anymore?

I didn't hear anything about them releasing him???

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
they need to bring Stevie Ray back and reform Harlem Heat.


http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pic/h/harlemheat/07.jpg

what happenend to him???

[Jason Blood]

its kinda sad how the WWE is just dropping in its quality and out of nowhere TNA comes out with their friday stuff and they just start making the WWE look worse

the only reason I'm even watching both is because they come on at different times

[Jason Blood]

The FBI has improved alot

they even made a face turn!

actually Smackdown has helped Johnny the Bull alot

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
why isn't Ultimo on the roster list anymore?

I didn't hear anything about them releasing him???

From what I've read, Dragon and the WWE decided to part ways mutually. Ultimo is working in Japan right now and might return to the WWE later this year.

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
From what I've read, Dragon and the WWE decided to part ways mutually. Ultimo is working in Japan right now and might return to the WWE later this year.

oh

I wonder why he hasn't decided to go to TNA

[SHADOWBAT69]

IS Sting coming to the WWE?

[Go Web Go!]

Probably not anytime soon if at all...

[zer00]

Didn't watch.

But the crowd turning on eugene sounds great.

And eugene "playing" GM is why I didn't watch.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Yes! I applaud Triple H for once.Thanks to him the crowd has turned on Eugene.

On a side note,Uncle Eric better get back soon. I hope I never see Eugene as GM ever again.

Hometown crowd sounded/looked good on TV. We got the rare double shot of RAW and Smackdown this week, mainly because the WWE listened to Y2J and brought RAW here.

[Soundwave]

I'm ready for Eugene to go away!!!!!

[zer00]

God I'm glad I didn't watch.

[Go Web Go!]

They're pushing Eugene too fast. Enough of this guy! Damn...He's nothing special.

[SpideyInATree]

It does seem that Eugene is being stuffed down our throats a bit too much. I thought he was pretty funny for a little bit but now he's a little annoying with the whole "You're my friend" routine. I just really hope that Triple H doesn't win the belt this Sunday, its better off in Benoit's hands right now.

[Go Web Go!]

Triple H is the last person I'd want to see holding the gold, but I have the feeling that he's going to take it from Benoit at Vengeance and then start a program with Edge. :(

[SpideyInATree]

I get the feeling he's going to win too. If he does start something with Edge, which after the events on RAW it's pretty obvious now, I just hope that Edge doesn't get buried. WWE, I noticed, has a huge habit of taking some good talent and burying them like its their goal in life. But I have to admit RAW is pretty good, I just wish we'd get a little more wrestling action and a little less soap opera.

[Soundwave]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
They're pushing Eugene too fast. Enough of this guy! Damn...He's nothing special.

That's true.


However, I'm getting a huge kick out of the sadistic behavior that Triple H is having towards him and just totally manipulating him. It's probably the best I've seen of Trips in years.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by SpideyInATree
I get the feeling he's going to win too. If he does start something with Edge, which after the events on RAW it's pretty obvious now, I just hope that Edge doesn't get buried.

Chances are that we will see Edge pushed to the top in the next few weeks only to see him get buried by Triple H, just like we've seen with Kane and many others in the last few years.

:o

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
And Edge is one of my favorites,too. It'll suck if he gets buried.But,hopefully,he'll end up like Kane and still be a main eventer even if he jobs to HHH.

Ending up like Kane isn't exactly a good thing. He turned to crap after his feud with Triple H. He has'nt really been anywhere near the top of the cards until recently, and he STILL jobs to his main event opponents. The only guys I've seen him beat lately are the same wrestlers I see on Heat every Sunday. :(

[zer00]

Dissapointing is an understatement.

It's like what they did to end the mr. america thing. it was just dumb the way that ended.

[spidertwit]

How did that end, by the way?

[3dman27]

Originally posted by SpideyInATree
I just wish we'd get a little more wrestling action and a little less soap opera. MUCH less soap opera thats why i'm taking a break from the wrestling

[Vapor]

Why did HHH cross the road?
Because he didn't want the Chicken to get over...

ba-dum-ch

I've pretty much stopped watching wrestling now... I might tune into SD if I know a CW match is gonna be on, unless it's a crappy one on one involving Chavo or Chavo Classic... or I might tune into the RAW highlights if I heard something good about it.

[Metamorpho1977]

watch TNA Impact on Fridays and pay for the 10 dollar NWATNA payperviews on Wednesdays, it's worth paying 10 dollars a week for quality wrestling than watching the crap that WWE gives away free each week

[3dman27]

unfortunately i'm on a fixed income so 4 ppvs amonth are out of the question i might get the friday show though

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by spidertwit
How did that end, by the way?

Well, if Hogan was supposedly "fired" or "banned" from the WWE. I don't remember what it was, so instead Hogan came out using the Mr. America character, but since there was'nt any proof that Hogan was Mr. America Vince could'nt fire him. While all this was happening on SmackDown, back in the real world Hogan's contract was running out, but it expired without him and the WWE reaching a new deal. So they decided to catch Hogan in the act (storyline wise, of course) and after they taped an episode of SmackDown at Madison Square Garden the cameras kept rolling and the week after that show they showed footage of Mr. America unmasking. It was Hogan (believe it or not) and Vince said that he was fired. And that was the end of Hogan and the WWE. ;)

[spidertwit]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Well, if Hogan was supposedly "fired" or "banned" from the WWE. I don't remember what it was, so instead Hogan came out using the Mr. America character, but since there was'nt any proof that Hogan was Mr. America Vince could'nt fire him. While all this was happening on SmackDown, back in the real world Hogan's contract was running out, but it expired without him and the WWE reaching a new deal. So they decided to catch Hogan in the act (storyline wise, of course) and after they taped an episode of SmackDown at Madison Square Garden the cameras kept rolling and the week after that show they showed footage of Mr. America unmasking. It was Hogan (believe it or not) and Vince said that he was fired. And that was the end of Hogan and the WWE. ;)

I was familiar with the Mr. America storyline, but stopped watching (can't remember why) but that sounds like utter bollocks. Very glad I didn't see it.

[Vapor]

I heard that Kidman and London get the tag titles this week on SD... Finally, something good happening on SD and London getting used. It'll probably only be for a couple of weeks though, knowing WWE :o

[Vapor]

Has anyone else heard about the WWE cracking down on efeds and similar sites using WWE material - wrestler names, pics, logos and stuff...

Apparently they want to open their own efed (where'd you might have to pay to play) so they are getting rid of all other WWE stuff used in efeds and that...

Next, they'll be stopping anyone from typing their wrestler names in forums or something...

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Well, if Hogan was supposedly "fired" or "banned" from the WWE. I don't remember what it was, so instead Hogan came out using the Mr. America character, but since there was'nt any proof that Hogan was Mr. America Vince could'nt fire him. While all this was happening on SmackDown, back in the real world Hogan's contract was running out, but it expired without him and the WWE reaching a new deal. So they decided to catch Hogan in the act (storyline wise, of course) and after they taped an episode of SmackDown at Madison Square Garden the cameras kept rolling and the week after that show they showed footage of Mr. America unmasking. It was Hogan (believe it or not) and Vince said that he was fired. And that was the end of Hogan and the WWE. ;)

Well at least until next time :p

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Vapor
I heard that Kidman and London get the tag titles this week on SD... Finally, something good happening on SD and London getting used. It'll probably only be for a couple of weeks though, knowing WWE :o

that would be a ****ing miracle

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
The Tag titles sure are getting moved around alot.

that is a good thing in my opinion

[Go Web Go!]

I'm surprised that they took the belts off the Dudley Boys. Hopefully this means that they're serious about London and Kidman and will take time to build them up in the next few weeks. BUT knowing the way the WWE works, it'll be a matter of weeks before the Dudleys regain the belts for what, the 30th time? :mad:

[zer00]

Dudleys were better on raw.

It makes me sick the crap wwe is doing to them now its all very dumb.

[The Ghoul]

Originally posted by zer00
Dudleys were better on raw.

It makes me sick the crap wwe is doing to them now its all very dumb.

They're trying to recreate the intesnity they had in ECW. It was a good step having Heyman manage them to do so... But, I think it would only be as good if you gave Heyman some glasses, revoked his speaking privalages, & called him Sign-Guy Dudley.

[3dman27]

whats an "efed"?

[spidertwit]

Smackdown and Raw, being filmed in the UK in October, who's coming?

[GLfan]

I have to Rant!I'm still not watching Smackdown since Layfield has to be champ, stupidest idea ever. And now to top it off f*@&ing Angle has gotten too big headed. *spoiler beware*Angle stripped Cena of the title!!
Now I'm never going to watch Smackdown. IDIOTS! I can truthfully say that, I like Bischoff a hellava lot better than Angle. Okay, done with rant now on to Wrestling News:

Despite having significantly less clearance nationwide, TNA Impact (.2-.3 range) on FOX Sports has been neck-and-neck recently with Velocity, which drew a .3 rating this weekend. Neither show's ratings should be considered outstanding, but TNA's numbers are much more impressive considering the weaker network and the lack of solid coverage and publicity.

Even though WWE was reluctant to give up on Mordecai due to his size, Kevin Fertig, who played the character, was sent back to OVW. Most do not blame Fertig, but rather, feel the character ultimately lacked potential.

The current plan is for Angle vs. Guerrero at Summerslam (not for the title). Of course, WWE often will book on the fly, so take this only as a tentative rumor.

[Jason Blood]

Cena's gonna get it back somehow

[Vapor]

Originally posted by 3dman27
whats an "efed"?

It's online and people can join, create a wrestler (give him a name, history, personality, gimmick, moves etc) and then they are put in matches by the people who run the efed and they have to roleplay (about the match and oppoenent plus character development). The owner(s) then decide who put out the better roleplays and you will either win or lose, unless it's an angle based where it could end in a draw or DQ or something. And yo uget involved in fueds and angles with other people and win titles and stuff.

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Was HHH ever a face?

DX

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Wasn't DX heels,though?

not really

I think one of the incarnations was

[zer00]

I thought it was two incarnations.

But they were heels at least once.

[The Ghoul]

There were three incarnations. One was heel with Shawn Michaels, HHH, Chyna, & Rick Rude. The faces were HHH, X-Pac, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg, Chyna. & The third had the same line up, but eventually grew into where chyna wasn't a part of it, Tori was X-Pac's girlfriend, & stephanie join right before it went under... I think it was the first in a long sting of bad ideas.

[Metamorpho1977]

He was a face right after he came back from having his thigh muscle repaired, but it ended pretty quick.

[Jason Blood]

I can't wait until smackdown comes on

I want to see Kidman and London win the titles

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
I can't wait until smackdown comes on

It's been a LONG time since I've heard anyone say that, :p

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
It's been a LONG time since I've heard anyone say that, :p

what about this one

I like seeing JBL as the WWE Champion

I'm serious

[Savage]

OH ****!!! THEY WON!!!:eek:
And the match was actually good. Awesome at that. The WWE is finally learning something.

[Jason Blood]

OMG Kenzo just did the you can't see me thing

that was great!

[Jason Blood]

LOL the new Summerslam Promo is funny as hell!

[dr. loomis]

taker wasnt on, what gives?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[dr. loomis]

"stop drop and roll" that promo was funny.

[dr. loomis]

i think the wwe overall needs new writers. there is so many things i would like to see( dx return), but without good writing, good ideas can get boring in an instant. there was so many potentially good ideas i seen in the past few years that just werent written right and went right in the toilet and got boring. the attitude era was great cuz you had the feeling of anything could happen.

[Go Web Go!]

DX DOES NOT need to return. Leave a classic stable alone and in the past. Learn from the WWE's failed attempt to bring back the NWO a few years ago.

[The Kryptonian]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
DX DOES NOT need to return. Leave a classic stable alone and in the past. Learn from the WWE's failed attempt to bring back the NWO a few years ago.

I agree. DX was never cool and I'm glad they went away. And bringing back the NWO failed miserably. It's all Scott Hall's fault the NWO went away the second time. Well, 50% of it was. The other 50% was the WWE.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
He was a face right after he came back from having his thigh muscle repaired, but it ended pretty quick.

Yep. He got pretty boring as a face after a couple of months.


Call me shocked though because who didn't like that whole angle where Trips and Steph go through all items for their divorce? ;) :p

[3dman27]

Originally posted by GLfan
I have to Rant!I'm still not watching Smackdown since Layfield has to be champ, stupidest idea ever. And now to top it off f*@&ing Angle has gotten too big headed. *spoiler beware*Angle stripped Cena of the title!!
Now I'm never going to watch Smackdown. IDIOTS! I can truthfully say that, I like Bischoff a hellava lot better than Angle. Okay, done with rant now on to Wrestling News:

Despite having significantly less clearance nationwide, TNA Impact (.2-.3 range) on FOX Sports has been neck-and-neck recently with Velocity, which drew a .3 rating this weekend. Neither show's ratings should be considered outstanding, but TNA's numbers are much more impressive considering the weaker network and the lack of solid coverage and publicity.

Even though WWE was reluctant to give up on Mordecai due to his size, Kevin Fertig, who played the character, was sent back to OVW. Most do not blame Fertig, but rather, feel the character ultimately lacked potential.

The current plan is for Angle vs. Guerrero at Summerslam (not for the title). Of course, WWE often will book on the fly, so take this only as a tentative rumor. i thought angle was going the prof. x from hell route with the wheelchar

[Jason Blood]

Impact is on in one hour!:D

[Shifty]

Originally posted by GLfan
I have to Rant!I'm still not watching Smackdown since Layfield has to be champ, stupidest idea ever. And now to top it off f*@&ing Angle has gotten too big headed. *spoiler beware*Angle stripped Cena of the title!!
Now I'm never going to watch Smackdown. IDIOTS! I can truthfully say that, I like Bischoff a hellava lot better than Angle. Okay, done with rant now on to Wrestling News:

The current plan is for Angle vs. Guerrero at Summerslam (not for the title). Of course, WWE often will book on the fly, so take this only as a tentative rumor.

So does that mean JBL vs Cena or JBL vs Taker for the title?

[Jason Blood]

I bet that Jeff will show up at Vengeance and help Matt beat Kane

unless he signs up with TNA first

[Go Web Go!]

Isn't he already under contract with TNA?

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Isn't he already under contract with TNA?

I haven't seen anything on the website and they said they said something about him before Impact came on too

[Jason Blood]

The time ran out!

[Jason Blood]

Does anyone know the name of Jeff Jarret's theme music and who does it?

[Jason Blood]

I hope Kazarian doesn't have to leave the X divsion

I don't care about Shane

[Jason Blood]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!


I LOVE SEEING THE CANADIAN DESTROYER!

That is one AMAZING move!

[Metamorpho1977]

My theory for next weeks TNA PPV is that AJ Styles will lose to Kazarian, and not only leave the X Division, but also leave TNA so he can go to WWE.

[Vapor]

Is it true that Shamrock is with TNA now?

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I think that thing Dusty Rhodes was talking about was a contract for Hardy,so I'm not sure about him at Vengeance.

we won't know about Jeff in TNA until next Wed.

that is what they said after Impact

with Vengeance this Sunday...

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Vapor
Is it true that Shamrock is with TNA now?

yep

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
My theory for next weeks TNA PPV is that AJ Styles will lose to Kazarian, and not only leave the X Division, but also leave TNA so he can go to WWE.

he wouldn't go to the WWE

I think he has turned them down some of their best offers

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
There were three incarnations. One was heel with Shawn Michaels, HHH, Chyna, & Rick Rude. The faces were HHH, X-Pac, Billy Gunn, Road Dogg, Chyna. & The third had the same line up, but eventually grew into where chyna wasn't a part of it, Tori was X-Pac's girlfriend, & stephanie join right before it went under... I think it was the first in a long sting of bad ideas.

Nothing lasts forever.

[Metamorpho1977]

Originally posted by Vapor
Is it true that Shamrock is with TNA now?

and I think he's a heel now too.

[The Undertaker]

This actually gives me a reason to check out Impact. I always wanted to but there was no reason to actually make me so I would always forget about it. But back when Shamrock was with the WWF he was one of my favorites and was pissed off after he left when he had that "internal bleeding" at King of the Ring. Bah.. I hated Kurt Angle at first because he just stole that Ankle Lock right out from underneath Shamrock like nothing. I got over it but I wanna' see Ken!

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
and I think he's a heel now too.

no

he's just crazy

[Jason Blood]

The Rock is on the intro for velocity

:confused:

[Jason Blood]

Eddie will not get the championship back on thursday

they just don't change THE title on regular shows

[The Ghoul]

That's not true. What about Mick Foley? They gave him THE title on an episode of Raw. Austin also beat Kane on an episode of Raw for THE title.

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Ghoul
That's not true. What about Mick Foley They gave hin THE title on an episode of Raw. Austin also beat Kane on an episode of Raw of THE title.


1. when was that

2. we are talking about SMACKDOWN

[Jason Blood]

omg its a miracle

Funaki won a match!

[The Ghoul]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
1. when was that

2. we are talking about SMACKDOWN

1. Foley beat The Rock on an episode of Raw in December of '98, & Austin Beat Kane for the title the night after Kane beat him at King of the Ring 98, making Kane's title run one of the shortest in WWF/E history... Second only to Yokozuna who beat Bret Heart, & lost it the same night to Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 9 (I think it was 9 anyway... the one outside of Ceasers Palace.)

2. I think Smackdown, should do that. With the lack of talent, & lack of ratings, It might be a nice suprise to kick itself back up.

[The Undertaker]

I've been hearing rumors of Bradshaw retaining the title up until Summerslam where he will be placed up against the Phenom where Taker will be triumphant. After all, either you love him or hate him theres no better dude to get the butt's in the seats right now then Taker'. So it makes sense. Besides Bradshaws reign thus far has been rather un-riveting and wouldn't care who the title is dropped to as long as JBL loses it and hopefully retires..

[dr. loomis]

i actually think gunn and holly make a decent team. they both are experienced good wrestlers,even though im not a hardcore fan of their charecters.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Grandpa Joe
I've been hearing rumors of Bradshaw retaining the title up until Summerslam where he will be placed up against the Phenom where Taker will be triumphant. After all, either you love him or hate him theres no better dude to get the butt's in the seats right now then Taker'. So it makes sense. Besides Bradshaws reign thus far has been rather un-riveting and wouldn't care who the title is dropped to as long as JBL loses it and hopefully retires.. true dat!!! i always liked the "a**hole charecters in general(hhh.orton,etc.), but bradshaw will always a tag wrestler to me, and since ron simmons is gone, maybe this title run is kinda his last feat before he retires.

[dr. loomis]

i am also ready to see rock come back full time. i kinda miss austin,they really dont utilize the entertaining mike skills like they used to. jericho needs more mike time, and a better story line.

[Agent Phoenix]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Yeah,Jericho has just seemed sort of hit and miss for me lately.Maybe he's just jobbing too much.

wait he beat Tomko

:rolleyes:

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
i actually think gunn and holly make a decent team. they both are experienced good wrestlers,even though im not a hardcore fan of their charecters.

It seems that's just Billy Gunn's role in the WWE. You can tell management loves the guy, he keeps on getting pushed as a singles wrestler, but each time, it fails and he goes back to being in a tag team (New Age Outlaws, Chuck and Billy). I always had a feeling that when Gunn returned to the ring, he would've teamed up with someone like Bradshaw or Holly. If him and Holly do make a permanent team, I wonder what they'll be called. ;)

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
Eddie will not get the championship back on thursday

they just don't change THE title on regular shows

Austin also won the title from Angle on RAW back during the Invasion crap. Austin was gone for two weeks and they hyped it up, Commish William Regal who recently turned face - hit Angle - costing him the match and then joined the Alliance. Then I believe the PPV was a Triple Threat with RVD vs Austin vs Angle for the title.

JBL even being given the WWE Title is a shock and suprise, so Eddie winning it would be nice suprise. However it is a taped show. On RAW its live, and while SD! does go live sometimes I'm guessing JBL wins and gets involved with Taker...

[Go Web Go!]

Well, if you think about it, THE title has changed hands on SmackDown. Kurt Angle beat Booker T for the WCW title, which is now the World title, back in 2001.

[The Ghoul]

Thats ture to I totally forgot about that match... mostly because I wanted to forget the "invasion" all together.

[zer00]

invasion went on for wayyyyy to ling.

[Metamorpho1977]

didn't go on too long, just went on too wrong.

I want them to put Booker T and Chris Benoit or someone in a best of seven series.

Does anyone remember the Best of Seven between Benoit and Booker T in the old WCW? Those were some of the coolest matches I ever saw.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by zer00
invasion went on for wayyyyy to ling. yeah. the invasion ppv was the only one that has been around my home town(it was in cleveland ohio) so of coarse i went and it was awful!!!!:bomb:

[Go Web Go!]

The "invasion" did'nt go on too long. It only lasted from June to about November. Like Metamorpho1977 said, they just handled it totally wrong and disappointed alot of fans.

[Eric Draven]

Yep. Instead of elevating the WCW stars, they decided to put guys like Steve Austin and Kurt Angle in the group and make them the focus of the feud :rolleyes:

[Agent Phoenix]

I think Tyson Tomko is using Christian's music

[Agent Phoenix]

wow a PPV is on and its like a ghost town here...

[Agent Phoenix]

lol

I can tell you

Tajiri and Rhyno def. Coach and Cade

Batista def. Jericho

La Resistance def. Flair and Eugene

[Agent Phoenix]

MY MAN MATT HARDY JUST BEAT KANE!!!

no Jeff though:(

[Go Web Go!]

Edge beat Orton. What a load of crap. :mad:

[Agent Phoenix]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Edge beat Orton. What a load of crap. :mad:

HERESY!

[The Ghoul]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Edge beat Orton. What a load of crap. :mad:

I think it's nice to see the titles fluxuating. I mean if WWE is going to suck, It should be fast paced sucking.

[Go Web Go!]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Just recombine the damn rosters. If there isn't enough time on each show to develop feuds and have matches then they should put their weekend shows to use. Put some big-name stars on the shows and make people want to watch.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Just recombine the damn rosters. If there isn't enough time on each show to develop feuds and have matches then they should put their weekend shows to use. Put some big-name stars on the shows and make people want to watch. damn straight!!!!!!!:bomb:

[Kahran Ramsus]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Anymore results?

Benoit def. HHH to retain the World Title after fighting off Evolution, and after Eugene accidently hit HHH with a chair

[zer00]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Just recombine the damn rosters. If there isn't enough time on each show to develop feuds and have matches then they should put their weekend shows to use. Put some big-name stars on the shows and make people want to watch.

You are correct sir.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
Edge beat Orton. What a load of crap. :mad:

Good :)

I can't stand Mr. Overrated. Edge isn't that much better, but at least this gives a fresh face for the IC title.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Kahran Ramsus
Benoit def. HHH to retain the World Title after fighting off Evolution, and after Eugene accidently hit HHH with a chair eugene is layin out all his friends with chair shots.:bomb:

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
Good :)

I can't stand Mr. Overrated. Edge isn't that much better, but at least this gives a fresh face for the IC title. orton is one of my favs,but i wanted to see someone take it from him.

[Go Web Go!]

I did'nt like Orton much, but I can't stand Edge anymore. I still look at him as a tag team wresttler rather than a singles competitor.

[Eric Draven]

Well I wouldn't be surprised if a few months from now they reunite Edge and Christian to help out the tag team division on Raw.


I mean besides La Resistance and Hurricane/Rosey(who are the Raw jobbers basically) what other tag teams does the show have? :confused:

[zer00]

I miss edge & christian.

"hey christian you know what the best thing about my boots are?
they say Edge on um'."

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by zer00
I miss edge & christian.

"hey christian you know what the best thing about my boots are?
they say Edge on um'."

And lets not forget the 5 second poses for those with the benefit of flash photography. Hehe. Great stuff. :p

[zer00]

5 second poses. hehehehe those were great. remember the one where they used midgets to play the hardy boyz and the dudley boyz.

Now I really miss edge & christian. :(

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by zer00
5 second poses. hehehehe those were great. remember the one where they used midgets to play the hardy boyz and the dudley boyz.

Now I really miss edge & christian. :(

Who doesn't ;)


And seriously, the two are meant to be a tag team. Apart, they really haven't amounted to much. Edge keeps on getting pushed, but it seems the fans don't care about him. Christian seems to be in a forever going feud with Chris Jericho.

Also, they should make Shannon Moore Hurricane's sidekick instead of Rosey. I heard those two put on great matches with the Hardys years ago. A Hurricane/Moore- E/C feud might be pretty kickass :) :up:

[zer00]

thta would be great!!

and what IS with that never ending fued with jericho?

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Edge is alright. I think he'd be better as a heel.

I don't think he would make it as a heel. He would just be another one of those wrestlers who the WWE tries to get over when they turn heel only to fail. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

[zer00]

team up with christian and go heel. now that's an idea.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by zer00
thta would be great!!

and what IS with that never ending fued with jericho?

Cause once his feud with Jericho ends, he has nobody else to feud with. Unless he starts feuding with his "problem solver" :rolleyes:

[zer00]

hmmm. that sounds like something wwe would do come to think of it.

[3dman27]

i agree with go web go about the wwe rosters

[Metamorpho1977]

I wish they'd let Hurricane bring back his WCW finisher, the Vertebreaker.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
I don't think he would make it as a heel. He would just be another one of those wrestlers who the WWE tries to get over when they turn heel only to fail. Could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

At best he would be part of a heel tag team. The problem is at the height of his popularity he was on Smackdown! and Vince said not even half the viewers watch both shows. Now of course SD! is in shambles and is lite in the heel dept. so right now he's better off on RAW up against Orton and HHH.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Metamorpho1977
I wish they'd let Hurricane bring back his WCW finisher, the Vertebreaker.

They banned it. Those bastards. It's one of the few "finishing" moves in wrestling nowaday that look like they'd actually keep your opponent down for the 3 count. But hey, there's still hope . They also banned the Tombstone, but The Undertaker still uses it.

[JINoside]

Originally posted by Go Web Go!
They banned it. Those bastards. It's one of the few "finishing" moves in wrestling nowaday that look like they'd actually keep your opponent down for the 3 count. But hey, there's still hope . They also banned the Tombstone, but The Undertaker still uses it.

Yeah, Vertebreakers a pretty hot move. To bad it was banned. I downloaded a vid clip of it a while ago and was kinda shoked by it. It looks pretty powerful using your own body weight as you come in contact with the mat. Why was the Tombstone banned? The way they do it in WWE doesn't even let the opponents head touch the ground. What other moves have been banned?......

[Savage]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
They banned vertebraker?Damn.That move was so awesome,too.

And Vince probably lets Undertaker use the Tombstone since he's been around for so long,plus it goes with his gimmick.

That has to be why Kane never does a Tombstone. Except when he wants to do something really "big" and shock everyone of course. He uses it as some kind of secret weapon or torture device in some cases now.

Sucks that wrestling has leaned over more to the entertainment side than actual wrestling now. It's stupid to even call it a sport anymore. It's a freakin staged fight for christ's sake. They rehearse moves...Man they can learn alot from the japanese.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by JINoside
Yeah, Vertebreakers a pretty hot move. To bad it was banned. I downloaded a vid clip of it a while ago and was kinda shoked by it. It looks pretty powerful using your own body weight as you come in contact with the mat. Why was the Tombstone banned? The way they do it in WWE doesn't even let the opponents head touch the ground. What other moves have been banned?......

Piledrivers are pretty much the only moves that have been banned (they made it official after Austin's injury) and any other move when, if done wrong, the wrestler can land on their head and neck. I guess they made an exception with the Tombstone since The Undertaker is a veteran like The Sabretooth said. But they don't even execute the move like they once did (like JINoside pointed out) They pretty much tuck the opponents head into The Undertaker's crotch so that their head won't hit the canvas. ;)

[The Undertaker]

Actually.. Undertaker always made the tombstone look authentic even after the whole banning. Sometimes heads are tucked into his crotch but alot of the time he puts their heads in between his knees right up to the point before they would actually hit so it looks more on the real side. Plus, the guy's been doing it for years and has it perfected, knows what he's doing. Kane on the other hand I dont think trusts himself very well so he keeps his opponents heads like 5 feet up from the canvas making it look fake as hell. I hate it when Kane does it, he uses it to make himself look monsterous but fails. Its like " Oh no, he turned them upside down and dropped to his knees! ' I'd be more worried for Kane on how hard he drops on his knees than the opponent. Its more like a fun little ride for them.

[Shifty]

Kane did pull out some piledrivers last summer when he got his last good push.

[zer00]

yeah I saw.

IT SUCKS!

[Captain Bryan]

Chris Jericho was the musical chairs champion???

[zer00]

MAke the lita kane thing stop.

[Savage]

Originally posted by Captain Bryan
Chris Jericho was the musical chairs champion??? Yup.:)

[Captain Bryan]

Originally posted by Savage
Yup.:) I wanna see that!:(

[Savage]

Originally posted by zer00
MAke the lita kane thing stop. Why? I'm actually enjoying this.:) Kane is a monster again, and not only physically at that but mentally. I'm lovin this. Guy's my fav wrestler. Second to Taker alone.

[dr. loomis]

ok, ok, i must end this lita/kane thing. its MY baby.

[dr. loomis]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
If Eugene gets the title I will cry me too, brother, but i have a very strange feeling.......

[Captain Bryan]

Fill me in, who is Eugiene?

[zer00]

yeah that was a cool double chokeslam.

[Captain Bryan]

I see.
I looked at him, and I saw "Andy Ripoff" but I figured it wouldn't be something like that.
Thanks:)

[zer00]

he'll end up winning.

[dr. loomis]

maybe evolution will cost beniot the title, so hhh has to fight eugene for the belt

[Savage]

Yeah this is pretty retarded. Get women that can wrestle dammit!:mad:

[RemyLebeau88]

Originally posted by Savage
Yeah this is pretty retarded. Get women that can wrestle dammit!:mad:

Why? No one actually wrestles in the WWE anymore.

[Savage]

Originally posted by RemyLebeau88
Why? No one actually wrestles in the WWE anymore. Touche.

Hey, Flair vs Hurricane. Hope Cane rips him a new one. He really should just retire by now. He's pretty much doing what Hogan did except longer...That's a bad thing.

[RemyLebeau88]

How old is he? I'm amazed they don't have rules against him wrestling. Everytime he gets in the ring I fear for his life.

[RemyLebeau88]

Yeah and shes better than the dancer and I missed the first one.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Savage
Why? I'm actually enjoying this.:) Kane is a monster again, and not only physically at that but mentally.

Yeah, but for how much longer? It seems that the WWE tries to push Kane as a monster every few months only to have him meltdown and then fall a little lower in the cards.

[RemyLebeau88]

Then you must really hate him now.

[RemyLebeau88]

lol

[zer00]

he thinks he won.

[zer00]

he hit him. hehehe.

[zer00]

this is the greatest!

[RemyLebeau88]

Well, now that thats over......anyone watch Joe Schmoe 2??

[Captain Bryan]

naw
Rocky III is on.

[zer00]

did you notice after hhh took his shirt off the girl behind eugene smiled.

[Savage]

LMAO! It was sad at first but after reading your posts it's hilarious.:D They're basicly killing off the character in the most horrid way possible and giving everyone what they wanted and at times dreamed of.

[zer00]

Yes thank youy HHH thank you. happy happy day.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I will never like Eugene until he stops copying people's moves.

Hell, that's the only entertaining part about him. That's what me thinks anyway, :D

[zer00]

lol

[GLfan]

Anyone notice that the Canadians have all the titles now, both heel and faces. Here's some news that's interesting.

Steve Austin, Kevin Nash, & Bill Goldberg Teaming Up With Adam Sandler
Story By: Keith Wilcutt
July 13, 2004

Thanks to Don & Comingsoon.net for the following. It looks like Goldberg, Kevin Nash, & Steve Austin will all be appearing in the upcoming remake of "The Longest Yard" starring Adam Sandler:

MTV spoke to Adam Sandler who revealed new cast additions for his upcoming Paramount film, The Longest Yard, featuring Chris Rock, Burt Reynolds, and James Cromwell.

In what is likely to be the smallest backfield former NFL linebackers Brian Bosworth and Bill Romanowski have ever faced, Nelly will play the running back to Sandler's quarterback in the remake. He'll also record a song for the film. Sandler's team of inmates, who take on a team of prison guards, will have an NFL star of their own in former Dallas Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin, as well as a few wrestlers.

"[Eric 'Extreme'] Goldberg, Steve Austin, Kevin Nash — [will face off against the prison guards]," said Sandler. Veteran actress Cloris Leachman will play the secretary for the prison's sadistic warden, played by Cromwell

Bret Hart Furious With Ric Flair, Savage/Foley, more
Story By: Ben Johnson
July 11, 2004

Bret Hart was said to be furious with many comments in Ric Flair's autobiography. Like Mick Foley, he was not the biggest fan of Flair's writing and is already gearing to write a column about his feelings.

Hart was especially angry with Flair's comments about Mick Foley and Randy Savage, not to mention what Flair said about "The Hitman" himself.

Flair seems to be ruffling some feathers with this book, which is a good and bad thing, depending on the perspective.

Edge Turning Heel & Getting New Look?; Test, & More
Story By: Niel Stephens
July 12, 2004

Fans at last night’s Vengence PPV booed edge heavily during his match with Randy Orton. Apparently the booing has been continous through many recent house shows. This obviously isn’t the reaction from the crowd which WWE are aiming for, so they are now thinking of turning Edge heel with a complete with a new look and new attitude. The heel Edge could feud with Chris Benoit down the line.

Test has confirmed that he will be out for a year due to neck surgery with Dr. Lloyd Youngblood.

[3dman27]

Originally posted by Savage
Touche.

Hey, Flair vs Hurricane. Hope Cane rips him a new one. He really should just retire by now. He's pretty much doing what Hogan did except longer...That's a bad thing. don't you mean "hurri" if we stated nicknameing the hurricane "cane" people would confuse him with the big red machine

[Soundwave]

Why is Edge being booed so much? Was it because the fans really liked Orton?

Also it seemed like the fans were pulling hard for Eugene last night to beat Benoit. God help us if Eugene would have really won the title.

[GLfan]

Anyone and I mean anyone is better than Bradshaw, even Eugene.

[GLfan]

Here is the link with Bret Hart's side of the story.
http://www.prowrestling.com/news.php?id=11311/articles/news

[Savage]

"Bret Hart Furious With Ric Flair, Savage/Foley, more"

What did I do?:confused:

[3dman27]

relax
he means pro wrestler randy savage not you

[GLfan]

Imo, Bret Hart has the right to defend himself especially if the allegations are not true. And that seems to be what he is doing.

[3dman27]

you are right glfan

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by dr. loomis
ok, ok, i must end this lita/kane thing. its MY baby.

no

Lita gets an abortion

[Jason Blood]

Edge turning heel?

Hell NO!

[Go Web Go!]

Edge isn't exactly over as a face, so they might as well turn him heel and pair him with Christian like I said before. Maybe get involved with Christian's feud with Chris Jericho...

[Eric Draven]

I like that idea. Except send Tomko back to OVW. He's still a bit green IMO. But Edge, Christian, and maybe Trish together might be pretty good.

[zer00]

that would be fantastic.

never liked tomko. and is that the best name they could come up with.

[Go Web Go!]

That's his actual name...

[zer00]

that's his name!

My God that is so sad.

[kodiak6919]

okay guys first off EDGE and Christian have both decreed they don't want to reunite ever again for the simple fact they have already done everything as team that can be done so they feel it would be counter productive for their indivdual characters to reteam and EDGE as a heel vs as a face I prefer the arrogant heel but I root for the heels more then the faces hey Batista deserves some singles success after dominating the tag team area with NATURE BOY

[kodiak6919]

oh and by the way on some earlier postings I noticed people saying that it's a different Kane without the mask well here's a suggestion go find a picture of either fake Diesel or Isaac Yankem and look at the unmasked KANE they are the same guy always have been was told this by a friend of mine who wrestles in OVW under developmental contract for WWE

[Rainbowbrite]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I will never like Eugene until he stops copying people's moves.


i agree i personally dont like the character at all i dont find him funny hes just annoying what is this guy going to do in the wee when no one is into the mental kid anymore???

[Savage]

Originally posted by kodiak6919
oh and by the way on some earlier postings I noticed people saying that it's a different Kane without the mask well here's a suggestion go find a picture of either fake Diesel or Isaac Yankem and look at the unmasked KANE they are the same guy always have been was told this by a friend of mine who wrestles in OVW under developmental contract for WWE Yeah. People just assumed it was a different guy because he went from chubby to ripped and buff all of a sudden and appeared "smaller" than what he used to look like...People and their minds playing tricks on them I guess.

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Savage
Yeah. People just assumed it was a different guy because he went from chubby to ripped and buff all of a sudden and appeared "smaller" than what he used to look like...People and their minds playing tricks on them I guess.

Yup, he just appeared smaller when he returned about 2 years ago from injury because he wasn't exactly able to stay in shape with a broken arm (or torn muscle in his arm. I don't remember what it was exactly)

[The Undertaker]

I've met the guy unmasked once and not intentionally. My mother's friends own a business who does promotions for WWE in his newpaper section so we get free close up tickets (either the first 3 rows) and superstar meet and greets. One of the times we were standing in the back waiting and we saw Test getting his back worked on and this massive man walk in with long hair. We looked at his pants and it was Kane. Didn't have his mask on.. minus the goatee and hair, he looks exactly the same and therefore is the same guy without question.

[kodiak6919]

alright beleive me guys Vince already has an idea on how to handle that when the situation does arise and I find it very good entertainment when he copies another superstars manauever
and if I remember correctly Ric Flair once said the greatest form of flattery was to have somebody copy your moves and STING said the same thing about Shelton Benjamin mimicing his stinger splash so lets see how the WWE carries out the Eugene character.

[Savage]

Originally posted by Grandpa Joe
I've met the guy unmasked once and not intentionally. My mother's friends own a business who does promotions for WWE in his newpaper section so we get free close up tickets (either the first 3 rows) and superstar meet and greets. One of the times we were standing in the back waiting and we saw Test getting his back worked on and this massive man walk in with long hair. We looked at his pants and it was Kane. Didn't have his mask on.. minus the goatee and hair, he looks exactly the same and therefore is the same guy without question. lol. Just so funny imagining that same Kane now with a goatee and long hair. It's just...really...odd....I wondered why when he removed the mask he didn't have a goatee though.

[kodiak6919]

yeah I know would have looked alot meaner in ,y opinion lol

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
What's happening on Smackdown?

Not a damn thing...I shut it off 15 minutes into the show. So bad... No Undertaker either.

[Jason Blood]

oh god

I just saw who the next Smackdown superstar is

in an "ad"

that loser Jon Heidenreich or whatever his name is

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Who is he?

some guy on the RAW roster

he's being managed by Paul Heyman

[Jason Blood]

I hope Eddie loses SOOOO bad

[Jason Blood]

El Gran Luchadore just screwed Eddie!!!

YES!!!!!!!1

[The Undertaker]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
I never thought I'd say this,but Undertaker needs to get off his ass.Once he was in an interesting storyline,but then that gets screwed up.I don't get why he's taking so much time off.Unless he's changing diapers for his newborn,I don't see why.

I heard somewhere that the reason why they had Heyman say that it was all The Dudleys' idea last week was because Undertaker decided now to show up.

And I'm sure he knows Smackdown is going down the crapper,so why in the blue hell does he not show up to at least get some ratings?

He's now used as " special attraction ". He comes.. then goes, then comes again. To keep it fresh rather than have the crowd get tired fast. I guess they want to maintain his huge ass pops.
I say screw all that crap and bring on the Deadman! :mad:

[Jason Blood]

EL GRAN LUCHADORE IS KURT ANGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

*at least this time;)*

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Now Cole is going to go back to saying ''A very rare appearance by The Undertaker'' every other second just because he missed 2 weeks.:rolleyes:

That pisses me off. :mad:

[SLYspyda]

I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY ELIMINATED NINA from the diva search!!!! she was the asian and black mixed girl that was hotter than the rest of them.
i'm also sad they eliminated Candice.

Looks like my vote's now going for that hot ass fine black piece of ass, forgot her name, it starts with a T.

[Eric Draven]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
oh god

I just saw who the next Smackdown superstar is

in an "ad"

that loser Jon Heidenreich or whatever his name is

Looks like they're trying to make him the next Brock Lesner....

[Pink Ranger]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
Looks like they're trying to make him the next Brock Lesner....

Good. From what I've seen of Heidenreich's ring work, I hope he leaves the WWE for the NFL by the next Wrestlemanie too.

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
Looks like they're trying to make him the next Brock Lesner....

The Next Big Thing;)

[Go Web Go!]

Originally posted by Eric Draven
Looks like they're trying to make him the next Brock Lesner....

Na, I've seen him wrestle a few times on Heat and RAW and he's nothing special. I'd say they're trying to make him the next Mordecai seeing how they sent Mordy back to OVW to get his act together. Heidenreich will probably take his spot in a feud with The Undertaker somewhere down the road since he still isn't finished with Paul Heyman (who apparently is managing Heidenreich.)

[SLYspyda]

didnt anyone watch the diva competition?!

[Jason Blood]

I can't wait until TNA comes on

I haven't checked the website so I can be surprised

[JINoside]

^What Time and Channel are they goin to give it?.......

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by JINoside
^What Time and Channel are they goin to give it?.......

what do you mean?

TNA is on FSN at 3pm on fridays

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
Speaking of TNA,what's up with Jeff Hardy?Is he signed on?

they said they were going to reveal that on this weeks episode

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by Jason Blood
they said they were going to reveal that on this weeks episode

they just had something appear under the fox box bar thingy

Jeff will decide this wed

[Jason Blood]

http://mattitude.wwe.com/040709.html

you guys need to read this

[Jason Blood]

I believe that Smackdown is maturing as a show

they have left behind some of the silly storylines and they are now pushing the wrestlers they got off RAW

they took Booker, RVD, and Dupree and made them all headliners with the US title hunt

I really like what they are doing with Smackdown currently

[Jason Blood]

Originally posted by The Sabretooth
It sucks TNA is only one hour.It should be two hours.


And I really hope Jeff Hardy comes to TNA
Also,why was he so mad at the last PPV?I didn't see it,but they just showed him leaving the arena in madness.

it wasn't the last one

Kid Kash came in and beat the crap out of him and AJ Styles during his title shot