Wrestling

[LastSunrise1981]

lita was punished with the angle & with her character being turned into a whore.

Lita seems to enjoy playing the heel though and there was absolutely no way for her to avoid the angle after the affair.

There just seems to be a level of favortism in the WWE. JBL can do the nazi salute in Germany(which is illegal), and he gets a WWE title reign, while Christy was probably excited for being on the same tour with two of the biggest stars and Stephanie gets jealous enough to throw a hissy fit.

I just think it was all about Christy improving, not giving up, and showing that she's willing to learn the business and become a better wrestler.

[Sarge 2.0]

Hmmmm.......John Stamos?Have mercy.

[Hunter Rider]

Guess who's going to a ROH show in January? :D

Lucky you,your main event may well be Aj vs AmDrag which will be awesome

[Sarge 2.0]

Lucky you,your main event may well be Aj vs AmDrag which will be awesomeHere's the card:


Grudge Match
Christopher Daniels vs. Jay Lethal

Special Challenge Match
AJ Styles vs. Matt Sydal

Special Challenge Match
Samoa Joe vs. BJ Whitmer with Lacey

Homicide Will Defend The FIP Title!!!

[Hunter Rider]

Here's the card:


Grudge Match
Christopher Daniels vs. Jay Lethal

Special Challenge Match
AJ Styles vs. Matt Sydal

Special Challenge Match
Samoa Joe vs. BJ Whitmer with Lacey

Homicide Will Defend The FIP Title!!!
Thats a pretty good card,im sure AmDrag will be there as well,Aj and Sydal will be amazing:up:

don't bank on Homicide though as he has a pretty banged up shoulder from what ive read

[Hunter Rider]

-- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Matt Hardy has some heat on him in the SmackDown locker room. It's mainly from Survivor Series when in the closing scene where Undertaker came in and cleaned house, which Hardy told a road agent he was unhappy with. The original plan was for Taker to give Hardy a choke slam. Hardy's words got back to Taker, and when Undertaker's run in was shown he asked them to rewind the tape for him to see. He saw how Hardy just rolled out of the ring instead of sticking to the original plan.

The Undertaker confronted Hardy about it, and asked Hardy what kind of message he was trying to send to the locker room, and if he thinks he's better than everyone else. It's said that Hardy just kept his head down and took it.

[Sarge 2.0]

Thats a pretty good card,im sure AmDrag will be there as well,Aj and Sydal will be amazing:up:

don't bank on Homicide though as he has a pretty banged up shoulder from what ive readI think I'm pumped for Daniels/Lethal the most.

[Gameruler]

What's up with Takers new tights?

I want the pants back! I think the tights look stupid!

[NDX]

Hmm... ROH in L.I. in Feb. and NYC in Mar. I definately have to get to those shows. With those and UXW, I'm gonna have a busy new year.

[NDX]

Credit: PWTorch Newsletter

-- Right now Steven Richards is just sitting at home collecting his checks from WWE without working. Despite being in full health, he has been at home for around four months without working any dates.

-- Nick Dinsmore aka Eugene’s contract expires one day before he is scheduled to finish his rehab. Right now it looks like the chances of WWE offering him a renewal are slim.

Shame about Steven Richards. Was a mark for him. Dinsmore could do better in other companies. Would prefer to see him work indys instead. "Eugene" was just disgraceful in the end.

[NDX]

Sorry, double... err, triple post.

[The Ghoul]

I know what you mean about Stevie (I never say Steven. He is always Stevie in my eyes). I always loved him even when he was buried in WCW & the RTC was the best heel gimmick of the attitude era (even better than the corporation) I don't understand why no one can do anything with him just bring in Dancin Stevie & let him go against someone like Rey or even a comedy angle with Booker to see the better dancer.

[punishermax]

Thats a pretty good card,im sure AmDrag will be there as well,Aj and Sydal will be amazing:up:

don't bank on Homicide though as he has a pretty banged up shoulder from what ive read

Danielson is the best wrestler in America that mainstream fans don't know about.

[TheVileOne]

Here's the card:


Grudge Match
Christopher Daniels vs. Jay Lethal

Special Challenge Match
AJ Styles vs. Matt Sydal

Special Challenge Match
Samoa Joe vs. BJ Whitmer with Lacey

Homicide Will Defend The FIP Title!!!

YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD! Send me a picture of you so I can make a voodoo doll and take out my jealous aggression on it!

That is an awesome card.

I think Daniels will beat Lethal since Lethal defeated Daniels at This Means War and got the pin on him at Final Battle.

Sydal vs. AJ will be awesome. They've had two fantastic matches in IWA Mid-south already. I think this is their first one on one match in ROH.

I bet Joe vs. Whitmer will be good. Whitmer is showing tons of potential as a singles guy. But I bet for Joe he's really just warming up for his Christopher Daniels series next month.

I'm going to wild guess and say that Homicide is milking his injury and that its fake. He will come out at the show and reveal that he's not really hurt and will kick the piss out of who ever he is fighting. Perhaps Cabana will cost him his FIP title? Escalation to their feud.

Throw in a tag title rematch between GenNext vs. Sal and Tony and you got a great f'n card there Sarge 2.0. So awesome that it ticks me off that ROH never does shows in Texas.

Any word on American Dragon defending his title on that show? I can understand why he'd want a little time off since he's been going at it on all cylinders since he wont the title and has defended it like 7 or 8 times in the span of three months. Hell he defended it THREE times in the month of October. I think though that Austin Aries might have the record for the most amount of title defenses in a month.

December 22nd: The Christopher Daniels vs. Samoa Joe feud will end in ROH during the Ohio return. 1/27 in Dayton and 1/28 in Cleveland will each feature Daniels vs. Joe as one of multiple main events. This will be the last time that Joe and Daniels collide in ROH in a singles match. Each match will have a different stipulation. 1/27 in Dayton will be a 30 minute ironman match!!! The final Joe vs. Daniels singles match in ROH will be an Anything Goes match on 1/28 in Cleveland!!! Daniels brought Joe into ROH in 2002, now 2006 will begin with these two ending their feud in ROH. Tickets are on sale now at ROHwrestling.com and are part of the 20-30% off sale!!!

December 22nd: The 20-30% off sale at ROHwrestling.com ends tonight at 10pm!!! This includes every item from live event tickets to merch from TNA, WWE, Japan and lots of independents promotions like the new 1PW "A Cruel Twist Of Fate" with AJ Styles vs. Abyss, Raven vs. Tommy Dreamer vs. The Sandman, Doug Williams vs. Austin Aries plus much more. The sale also includes the new VHS ROH shows such as 11/19 "A Night Of Tribute" (Bryan Danielson vs. Christopher Daniels in a must see match, Colt Cabana vs. Homicide in a violent clash, Samoa Joe & Jay Lethal vs. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong in great tag wrestling) and 12/3 "Steel Cage Warfare" (The Embassy vs. Generation Next in Steel Cage Warfare, Steve Corino vs. Homicide in a brutal match, Samoa Joe vs. Jay Lethal plus Lance Storm and more). Don't forget there are lots of new show DVDs out including 10/14 "Enter The Dragon" (Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries), 10/15 "Buffalo Stampede" (Bryan Danielson vs. Steve Corino) and 10/29 "This Means War" (Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong, Austin Aries vs. AJ Styles).

December 22nd: ROH Commissioner Jim Cornette has decided to suspend Homicide for the month of January as punishment for last Saturday when Homicide poured Draino down the throat of Colt Cabana. Cornette stated that he hadn't seen a malicious attack since Terry Funk tried to suffocate Ric Flair with a plastic bag in 1989. Homicide will be banned from the events without pay. However, Homicide's lawyers have already contacted the ROH offices to say that Homicide will be at the 1/14 Philly event since Homicide signed a FIP contract to defend his FIP Heavyweight Title. ROH's lawyers are fighting Homicide's lawyers on this and we'll have an update next week. FIP's DP Associates, led by Dave Prazak, is said to be keeping a close eye on the FIP Title/January 14th situation.

December 22nd: Colt Cabana has been said to be very distressed and having trouble sleeping since the Draino incident. People close to him said they saw a change in Cabana after 11/5 when Homicide tried to cut out his tongue. These same people now say that Cabana has almost been in a state of shock since last Saturday.

December 22nd: Steve Corino, who has revealed that he suffered a torn ACL during his match on Saturday, limped out of the building during the show. Corino stated on his way out the door that he won't return to ROH right now because he considers it an "unsafe work environment" after the Draino incident.

December 22nd: ROH officials are looking to add some fresh faces to the Six Man Mayhem on 1/14 in Philadelphia. Jack Evans, an expert at this kind of match, has already been signed to this bout. Just added are two individuals who have impressed with some exciting, high-flying tag team action. Jason Blade and Kid Mikaze will be in their first Six Man Mayhem on 1/14 in Philadelphia. We will announce the rest of the participants soon.

December 22nd: ROH Pure Champion Nigel McGuinness says that there will be no rematch for Claudio Castagnoli after last Saturday. McGuinness stated that he proved he is the better pure wrestler than Castagnoli. It is now Nigel's goal to have the longest title reign in ROH history of any champion.

December 22nd: Former ROH Tag Team Champions Tony Mamaluke & Sal Rinauro say they will not be discouraged by losing the belts and that they want a rematch. Mamaluke & Rinauro did solidify their spots on the roster with their sudden Tag Title win so in that regard they consider their time with the belts as a success. Now they want to win the belts back and put together a long reign.

December 22nd: We want to thank you for a tremendous holiday season. It is with all your support that we are able to stay in business and continue to improve ROH. Fans attending the 12/17 show heard the new sound system and saw the new lasers. This is our way of putting the money you spend on ROH back into the product to make it better for you. Every ticket and merchandise sale counts so we can't thank you enough for your support. Have a great holidays. Thank you!!!

Plus, we are getting Daniels vs. Joe THREE TIMES in January. Once in TNA and TWICE in ROH. Daniels and Joe are going to end their feud once and for all and the match will never happen again in ROH. I think Daniels needs to win at least one of those matches. I'll say the anything goes one.

We know that Joe has no problem with endurance and going half an hour. He and Daniels already did that last month.

[Gameruler]

Credit: PWTorch Newsletter

-- Right now Steven Richards is just sitting at home collecting his checks from WWE without working. Despite being in full health, he has been at home for around four months without working any dates.

-- Nick Dinsmore aka Eugene’s contract expires one day before he is scheduled to finish his rehab. Right now it looks like the chances of WWE offering him a renewal are slim.

Shame about Steven Richards. Was a mark for him. Dinsmore could do better in other companies. Would prefer to see him work indys instead. "Eugene" was just disgraceful in the end.
I love Eugene. I think he's awesome. Man even though he took an overdose or something I hope he gets his contract renewed and given another chance. Maybe they could even do something better for him.

He could finally get a title shot maybe since his "Uncle" isn't there to hate on him.

[TheVileOne]

Man who would have thunk it. That in less than 2 years Dinsmore goes to becoming one of the top superstars on the roster to this.

[NDX]

Dinsmore is a better wrestler to be chained down with the Eugene gimmick. It grew old after a while, and the way RAW is moving, having him back on the program would just not work.

I would prefer they held onto Dinsmore and just gave him a different gimmick and look. They could use a wrestler on the roster.

[Mister J]

I can't stand Eugene. It seemed that the audience was kinds tiring of him too (I remember some 'Eugene Sucks' chants). If they keep him on, they'll probably go with some mock shoot angle where Dinsmore comes out and says the idea for the character sucks and he changing (somewhat like Gregory Helms).

[TheVileOne]

Look where that's gotten Shane Helms. Absolutely nowhere.

[Mister J]

Look where that's gotten Shane Helms. Absolutely nowhere.

Just saying that Eugene as a 'special' character sucks and is tired and they'd make a change if they decide to keep him around.

Helms is limited by the fact that he's not a bigger guy (Vince's rule). Additionally, he needs some sort of hook or gimmick or personality. I'm not sure he'd ever get the shot to do it...or if he'd be successful for that matter.

[Gameruler]

I remember in the Summerslam 2004 when it was Eugene vs. Triple H. A lot of the Canadian audience was chanting "Eugene Sucks!" Am I the only one who likes Eugene?

Eugene was cool before he became a punching bag for other people. Reminds me of Hardcore Holly now. All they use Holly for is to progress a storyline. WWE has talent but they don't know how to use it. :(

[Sarge 2.0]

YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD! Send me a picture of you so I can make a voodoo doll and take out my jealous aggression on it!

That is an awesome card.

I think Daniels will beat Lethal since Lethal defeated Daniels at This Means War and got the pin on him at Final Battle.

Sydal vs. AJ will be awesome. They've had two fantastic matches in IWA Mid-south already. I think this is their first one on one match in ROH.

I bet Joe vs. Whitmer will be good. Whitmer is showing tons of potential as a singles guy. But I bet for Joe he's really just warming up for his Christopher Daniels series next month.

I'm going to wild guess and say that Homicide is milking his injury and that its fake. He will come out at the show and reveal that he's not really hurt and will kick the piss out of who ever he is fighting. Perhaps Cabana will cost him his FIP title? Escalation to their feud.

Throw in a tag title rematch between GenNext vs. Sal and Tony and you got a great f'n card there Sarge 2.0. So awesome that it ticks me off that ROH never does shows in Texas.

Any word on American Dragon defending his title on that show? I can understand why he'd want a little time off since he's been going at it on all cylinders since he wont the title and has defended it like 7 or 8 times in the span of three months. Hell he defended it THREE times in the month of October. I think though that Austin Aries might have the record for the most amount of title defenses in a month.



Plus, we are getting Daniels vs. Joe THREE TIMES in January. Once in TNA and TWICE in ROH. Daniels and Joe are going to end their feud once and for all and the match will never happen again in ROH. I think Daniels needs to win at least one of those matches. I'll say the anything goes one.

We know that Joe has no problem with endurance and going half an hour. He and Daniels already did that last month.Just checked again, AmDrag is gonna be there, so is Austin Aries, Alex Shelley, and several others that I can't remember...goddamn I'm so pumped.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: WWE.com
QUOTE
With New Year's Revolution fast approaching, all six competitors slated to compete in the Elimination Chamber will compete in "Beat the Clock" matches Monday night on RAW. The Superstar with the fastest time will enter the Chamber last at New Year's Revolution. Who will gain the Elimination Chamber advantage? Watch RAW to find out.

Also, Big Show and Triple H are scheduled to square off at New Year's Revolution. But first, they must sign the appropriate paperwork. Watch the contract signing this Monday night on RAW.

Also on RAW, Intercontinental Champion Ric Flair will appear on The Cutting Edge. For weeks, Edge and Lita have been taking shots at "The Nature Boy." How will Flair respond Monday night?

Additionally, get a review of Bret Hart's new DVD straight from Mr. McMahon and Shawn Michaels. What do two of the most out-spoken figures in sports-entertainment history think about the Hit Man's new DVD?

For the answers to these questions and more, tune into the final Monday Night RAW of 2005 next Monday night at 9/8 CT on the USA Network.

[Lone Wolf]

Credit: WWE.com
QUOTE
With New Year's Revolution fast approaching, all six competitors slated to compete in the Elimination Chamber will compete in "Beat the Clock" matches Monday night on RAW. The Superstar with the fastest time will enter the Chamber last at New Year's Revolution. Who will gain the Elimination Chamber advantage? Watch RAW to find out.

Also, Big Show and Triple H are scheduled to square off at New Year's Revolution. But first, they must sign the appropriate paperwork. Watch the contract signing this Monday night on RAW.

Also on RAW, Intercontinental Champion Ric Flair will appear on The Cutting Edge. For weeks, Edge and Lita have been taking shots at "The Nature Boy." How will Flair respond Monday night?

Additionally, get a review of Bret Hart's new DVD straight from Mr. McMahon and Shawn Michaels. What do two of the most out-spoken figures in sports-entertainment history think about the Hit Man's new DVD?

For the answers to these questions and more, tune into the final Monday Night RAW of 2005 next Monday night at 9/8 CT on the USA Network.

Sweet thanks for the news.

[Mr. Socko]

WWE either need to take the title off of Batista or actually make him defend it.

[The Ghoul]

he's injured he can't work long matches & they wanted him to keep untill WM where they're giving it to Orton.

[The Ghoul]

EDIT: Double Post

[Lobo]

he's injured he can't work long matches & they wanted him to keep untill WM where they're giving it to Orton.


I think batista will drop it to Taker, Randy wins the rumble, and the takes the title and ends Takers undefeated streak at mania

[The Ghoul]

I think him and Taker are done. Besides I think Taker want's to retire with that record... As well he should.

[Hunter Rider]

I think him and Taker are done. Besides I think Taker want's to retire with that record... As well he should.
I think dropping the title to Orton at Mania would be a class thing to do,like when Andre put Hogan over at WM3 after being undefeated his entire career

[TheVileOne]

If Undertaker retires with that streak intact, it would just be symbolic of how much of a dick he is and how he never puts young guys over.

[The Batman]

So now taker has to give up his winning streak to put young guys over? Surrrrrre....

[Hunter Rider]

So now taker has to give up his winning streak to put young guys over? Surrrrrre....
I never said that,i said it would be nice in the same way Andre did the job for Hogan,
I don't see why Taker should be in some glass case,im not trying to start a fight but it's to the point now where basically him losing clean or at WM22 is some kind of crime
Hogan the biggest star ever did the job clean for The Warrior ,Roddy Piper losing clean to give Bret the main event push when no one had ever pinned him clean in 17 years are just two examples of huge names helping other guys get crediblity...........damn i just typed that Hogan helped someone:eek:

[Weadazoid]

I aminly talk wrestling over on PWcom but I come in here everyonce in a while

Cena and Batista have both held long face runs for quite some time, Cena has more of this superman imagery that he has no falws and the five Nuckle shuffle is a compleate rip off of the peoples Elbow in my opinion. Despite good mic Skills I still am not behind this guy 100%.

Batista on the other hand looks ever part the heel yet has had a really nice run as Face champion. Many felt his chearing section would die out after HHH was removed clearly this has not happened



Personaly I think it was the Rock, Angle, Austin, HHH, and Takers battle with one another that really really made thing interesting.

At times I like the brand split at times I hate it

Angle and HHH are still in the picture so is taker to a much lesser extent right now.

When do you guys think Batista and Cena will finaly square off in a main event

What do y'all think of the idea of Lesnar comeing back? I think it would be fantastic to see a huge main event Batista vs lesnar, Lesnar is proving to many he is now serious about wrestling by going to Japan and really working hard, why wouldn't the WWE invite him back?

Persoanly I wish Lesnar had never left, but he did what he did to try an NFL carrear had he not done that the question would have always lingered, now he knows...wrestling is the place for him.. the WWE is the place for him.

[Hunter Rider]

When do you guys think Batista and Cena will finaly square off in a main event

I'm not sure they will,the fact is both guys need carrying in every match so together they would look worse than usual

What do y'all think of the idea of Lesnar comeing back? I think it would be fantastic to see a huge main event Batista vs lesnar, Lesnar is proving to many he is now serious about wrestling by going to Japan and really working hard, why wouldn't the WWE invite him back?


I'd like to Lesnar return but there is a lot of bad blood over the way both parties have handled the legal situation so i wouldn't count on it anytime soon
Ive seen Brock's NJPW matches and in the first he looked a bit rusty but come the second he looked awesome again,his next defense against Nakamura will be a real test as both matches have been HW squash type deals and short,this one should be more technical and longer

[The Batman]

I never said that,i said it would be nice in the same way Andre did the job for Hogan,
I don't see why Taker should be in some glass case,im not trying to start a fight but it's to the point now where basically him losing clean or at WM22 is some kind of crime
Hogan the biggest star ever did the job clean for The Warrior ,Roddy Piper losing clean to give Bret the main event push when no one had ever pinned him clean in 17 years are just two examples of huge names helping other guys get crediblity...........damn i just typed that Hogan helped someone:eek:

I wasnt talking to you...

Taker should put guys over, and has....he just dosent need to give up his streak to do so.

As for Hogan...hogan never one 13 straight wrestlemanias in a row. For once, maybe people would like to see someone retire undefeated.

I mean, you guys look at it as wins and losses...but look at the matches, the storylines, etc. Taker, even though he wins, makes them look like credible threats

[Hunter Rider]

I wasnt talking to you...

Taker should put guys over, and has....he just dosent need to give up his streak to do so.

As for Hogan...hogan never one 13 straight wrestlemanias in a row. For once, maybe people would like to see someone retire undefeated.

I mean, you guys look at it as wins and losses...but look at the matches, the storylines, etc. Taker, even though he wins, makes them look like credible threats

On occasions he has in particular with Mankind but Orton has looked an absolute pussy through this whole saga and even with Brock if you recall they had to smash Takers hand prior to HIAC so that Brock could beat him

As far as the undefeated streak goes i can see where Taker fans may want it to continue but for me as just a fan in general i think it would be the ultimate payback to the buisness for Taker to basically make a guy in one match by losing to him at a Maina
whether Orton should be that guy i don't know but i think it would be a tremendous gift back to the Company that made him

[Sabretooth]

If Taker absolutely should put someone over cleanly,and if he doesn't want it at WM,why not have it where it all began? How about...Survivor Series?

[The Ghoul]

I think a SS would be perfect. And if he does give up his WM streak it should probebly be his retirement match for more symbolism.

[r3dn3x]

Is Smackdown a Best of tonight?

[Hunter Rider]

I think a SS would be perfect. And if he does give up his WM streak it should probebly be his retirement match for more symbolism.
See i thought the other way around would work best,give someone the mega rub of beating him at Mania and then win at the SS to end his career (despite tradition saying go out on your back)
He could beat a guy like HHH who could take a loss without it mattering

[Twitch]

Hey HR, did you forget about my avvy request? :confused:

[White_Howling]

Is Smackdown a Best of tonight?


yep

[Lone Wolf]

It is?

[White_Howling]

It is?


just checked the website.. its best of 2005

[BEER]

Son of a bootch I hate best of shows. :down:mad:

[NDX]

Does anyone know if there are any easter eggs on the WreslteMania anthology set? It's too much work to look through 21 dvds.

[NDX]

Partial Credit: PWTorch

The SmackDown! brand featured pay per view that is scheduled to air on Feb. 19, will be featuring Batista vs. Kane for the World Heavyweight Title at No Way Out in the main event according to a inDemand ad that is current running.

Why is this feel like the most horrific thing I've ever read?

[Hunter Rider]

Partial Credit: PWTorch

The SmackDown! brand featured pay per view that is scheduled to air on Feb. 19, will be featuring Batista vs. Kane for the World Heavyweight Title at No Way Out in the main event according to a inDemand ad that is current running.

Why is this feel like the most horrific thing I've ever read?

Ugh i was hoping he'd have lost the title by then but Kane is on RAW so I'm thinking this is an advertising error

[Sabretooth]

You know SD! is doing bad when they have to bring in RAW's tag champs. Seriously why don't they just take the strap off Batista,he's never gonna survive all the way to SD! unless he turns heel or something. Fans are gonna realize how limited he is,just like Cena.

[Hunter Rider]

CM Punk doing well for himself in OVWhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4710/myfirstpics1109du.jpg

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5087/myfirstpics1111ew.jpg

[Twitch]

Hey HR ,did you forget about my latest avatar request :(

[TheVileOne]

Who is THAT girl? Is that Alexis Laree?

Punk might be doing well in OVW...but its OVW. Rumor has it that HHH and HBK don't like his wrestling at all after watching his Heat match.

I hope they don't saddle him with a dumbass gimmick or stable. He just needs to be JUST CM Punk.

[Hunter Rider]

Who is THAT girl? Is that Alexis Laree?

Punk might be doing well in OVW...but its OVW. Rumor has it that HHH and HBK don't like his wrestling at all after watching his Heat match.

I hope they don't saddle him with a dumbass gimmick or stable. He just needs to be JUST CM Punk.

The girl is Maria,

[Hunter Rider]

Hey HR ,did you forget about my latest avatar request :(
You mean the one you told me to make:mad:

anyway i think the link is there,i havent had much time,i'll try do it soon:up:

[Twitch]

You mean the one you told me to make:mad:

anyway i think the link is there,i havent had much time,i'll try do it soon:up:

Yeah :o

[Lone Wolf]

CM Punk doing well for himself in OVWhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4710/myfirstpics1109du.jpg

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5087/myfirstpics1111ew.jpg

Merry Christmas to him.

[TheVileOne]

Well good for Punk...that magnificent bastard.

I got a better one for you guys:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4835/myfirstpics0934kf.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

^^^^It saddens me that Bogeyman has a SD spot and Punk isn't on the show
Punks mic work is way beyond most of the WWE roster and he is a great worker they should get him in the IC or US title scene ASAP,Benoit vs Punk would be money

[TheVileOne]

^^^^It saddens me that Bogeyman has a SD spot and Punk isn't on the show
Punks mic work is way beyond most of the WWE roster and he is a great worker they should get him in the IC or US title scene ASAP,Benoit vs Punk would be money

Heyman keeps pushing him to WWe management who don't seem interested. Specifically...Stephanie McMahon who hates Heyman.

[Hunter Rider]

Heyman keeps pushing him to WWe management who don't seem interested. Specifically...Stephanie McMahon who hates Heyman.
That stupid ***** wants a sitcom not a wrestling show

[The Ghoul]

I want Heyman to be promoted to Raw GM. That would be hot ****.

[Sabretooth]

Even if he did,he'd be getting FU'ed by Cena and fired by Vince in about a month. Stephanie hates his guts.

[The Techno Bat]

So CM Punk with Maria means that he is no longer with Traci Brooks, that's too bad because Traci is waaaaaaay hotter and than Maria.

[Spider-Nerd]

Seriously why don't they just take the strap off Batista,he's never gonna survive all the way to SD! unless he turns heel or something. Fans are gonna realize how limited he is,just like Cena.
what in god's name are you talking about? The fans are eating up batista. Have you been to a live event recently? His pops are huge. he might not be as big a cashcow as cena as far as merchandise goes, but he's def. over bigtime as a babyface.

[Hunter Rider]

what in god's name are you talking about? The fans are eating up batista. Have you been to a live event recently? His pops are huge. he might not be as big a cashcow as cena as far as merchandise goes, but he's def. over bigtime as a babyface.

In his post he said that eventually they are gonna realise that beyond the muscles and tattoos there isn't any talent and get sick of him

No doubt right now he is over but he won't have the longevity

[tamron]

They don't expect him to have longevity. Batista is in his 40's, believe it or not. They've kept the strap on him because he could very well be a one-and-done champ, and they want to milk the run for all its worth.

[The Ghoul]

that opening segment is exactly what TNA needs to match the superb wrestling to attack WWE harcore... that **** was gold

[NDX]

They're milking Batista for all he's worth before he breaks down permanantly. Not a bad idea, even though some of us fans have grown sick of him.

Punk, as much as I'm not a fan of his, I do believe is a very good wrestler and a hell of a worker and deserved to be one RAW fixing their lacking IC title position. With Flair having the title, it inadvertantly keeps some wrestlers down. But with someone like Punk at the helm, it will allow wrestlers like Shane Helms, Rob Conway and others to have believable matches where anyone who challanges Punk for the title is a threat to it. Or vice versa. He would make a respectable challenger for the title to any of the men holding it. It would make sense, and give the title some life again.

[The Batman]

Of course CM Punk wont get a push....

He actually has talent...

[Sabretooth]

My mom just got me the Bret Hart DVD for Christmas :eek: :up:

[The Batman]

I got the Undertaker DVD

[TheVileOne]

Flair needs to drop the IC title already.

[Hunter Rider]

Flair needs to drop the IC title already.

I agree,i like Flair but the belt serves no purpose on him and with this inpending match with Edge i doubt we are gonna see any defense of it

[TheVileOne]

I wonder if WWE will even ever do anything with Edge's money in the bank contract. I find it odd he's waited so long to use it.

[Hunter Rider]

I wonder if WWE will even ever do anything with Edge's money in the bank contract. I find it odd he's waited so long to use it.

WM22 Cena vs HHH vs Edge:(

[TheVileOne]

Now that is lame.

Wrestlemania main events continue to degenerate.

[Hunter Rider]

Now that is lame.

Wrestlemania main events continue to degenerate.
Indeed,add to that Orton and Batista,Taker/Bogeyman and another MITB ladder match and ya got ya Mania

[Sarge 2.0]

Indeed,add to that Orton and Batista,Taker/Bogeyman and another MITB ladder match and ya got ya ManiaGod no. :(

The other two I won't mind that much if they're good...but that one just screams dud. :(

[Hunter Rider]

God no. :(

The other two I won't mind that much if they're good...but that one just screams dud. :(
Well it seems WWE are set to make the same mistakes with Bogeyman that they did with Eugene by trying to take him seriously

[Mister J]

I've been a WWE fan for a long time, but sometimes it seems as if they're trying to sabotage it all.

[Lobo]

I got the Bret DVD and I got tickets to Smackdown :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Nice Christmas for you huh buddy? :up:

[citizenpain]

that bret hart dvd is dope. i ranted about it a few times on here. i also dislike best of shows. they should have at least had the stars comment on the year in wrestling or something. werd yo.

[Lobo]

Nice Christmas for you huh buddy? :up:


Yep :)

[White_Howling]

WM22 Cena vs HHH vs Edge:(

im soo sick of edge and he hasn't been on lately..

also cena and his ask him five questions on wwe.com. too much exposure is a bad thing.. still waiting for the day he gets heavly booed.. its getting there

[NDX]

After getting the WWE WrestleMania Anthology boxed set, I've decided to forgo purchasing WM22 live and just wait for the cheaper dvd release. At this point, they are not setting up any positive longterm stories that will lead to good matches at WM22. The company is not even showing rosters strong enough to support the event at the moment, and it looks like they won't be able to produce a proper combined roster/matchlist in the next 3 months.

And as much as it pains me to say it, since WrestleManias are the highlight of my March/Aprils, it would be a waste of money to purchase the event and I just can't do it.

[LastSunrise1981]

This was taken from the Chris Jericho Message Board. The source is at the bottom as well.


To follow up on the earlier report about the commercial running on the USA Network this week noting that Kurt Angle will have a big announcement on RAW this Monday night, Pro Wrestling Torch is reporting that Angle has a somewhat serious back injury that he has been hiding as of late.

In addition to this, reports are stating that Angle is continuing to hide problems he is experiencing with his neck and overall wear and tear on his body. Based on his current health, the general feeling is that he can't continue much longer working a full-time WWE schedule. Although not confirmed, many feel this "shocking announcement" that is being plugged by USA is that Angle will either announce he is taking an extended leave or possibly semi-retiring.

Again, these are very early reports as nothing has been confirmed at this point. One assumption that has been thrown out besides reports on an extended leave is that Angle might "renounce" his United States citizenship for storyline purposes or request some type of action regarding RAW's new General Manager. Either way, we hope to get more information about this situation in the coming days, although more might come into play this Monday night on RAW.

source:www.wrestleview.com

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh no. :(

[Sabretooth]

If he retires,even sort of, I'm done with Raw. He's the only reason I'm even watching it.

[NDX]

I just read this myself. Very disappointing to read, but not very surprising to read at all. I've been expecting this day for a while now.

[White_Howling]

If he retires,even sort of, I'm done with Raw. He's the only reason I'm even watching it.


I'm with yeah.. hes the best wrestler on raw..... what a trooper..

[The Ghoul]

it may not be healthy or smart, but it shows how much heart he has.

[Hunter Rider]

It will be another blow to WWE's already poor output but i'd rether he retired now than be paralysed by pushing to long,
Mayb he's gonna be the new GM

[3dman27]

This was taken from the Chris Jericho Message Board. The source is at the bottom as well.


To follow up on the earlier report about the commercial running on the USA Network this week noting that Kurt Angle will have a big announcement on RAW this Monday night, Pro Wrestling Torch is reporting that Angle has a somewhat serious back injury that he has been hiding as of late.

In addition to this, reports are stating that Angle is continuing to hide problems he is experiencing with his neck and overall wear and tear on his body. Based on his current health, the general feeling is that he can't continue much longer working a full-time WWE schedule. Although not confirmed, many feel this "shocking announcement" that is being plugged by USA is that Angle will either announce he is taking an extended leave or possibly semi-retiring.

Again, these are very early reports as nothing has been confirmed at this point. One assumption that has been thrown out besides reports on an extended leave is that Angle might "renounce" his United States citizenship for storyline purposes or request some type of action regarding RAW's new General Manager. Either way, we hope to get more information about this situation in the coming days, although more might come into play this Monday night on RAW.

source:www.wrestleview.com
is'nt tonights raw supposed to be the year in review episode? thewouldn't start new storyline on that

[NDX]

is'nt tonights raw supposed to be the year in review episode? thewouldn't start new storyline on that

They are only doing that with Smackdown this year because Raw went to Afghanistan this year. If you recall, the last two years Raw would have year in reviews while Smackdown when to Iraq those two years.

[3dman27]

oh i see thank you

[The Batman]

i'm sorry, but last weeks raw and smackdown were boring....

[Lobo]

i'm going to the smackdown taping tonite, I'll post a review when I get back :)

[Hunter Rider]

i'm going to the smackdown taping tonite, I'll post a review when I get back :)
Get your camera ready for Melina's entrancehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Sarge 2.0]

Get your camera ready for Melina's entrancehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifOr do what I would do:

Jump the barrier and drape yourself on the mat so that she has no choice but to straddle you. :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Speaking of Melina:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Melina.JPG

[Hunter Rider]

Or do what I would do:

Jump the barrier and drape yourself on the mat so that she has no choice but to straddle you. :up:
That will work great for him but I'm thinking of camera angles for the rest of us to get a peak:(

[Hunter Rider]

Speaking of Melina:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Melina.JPG

Merry Christmas to you to Sargehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:

[Lobo]

Get your camera ready for Melina's entrancehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif


I have my tongue ready :p, I'll try to get and scan pics. Oh and that avvy will be up ina minute HR can I have a still version also? :D

[Sarge 2.0]

Merry Christmas to you to Sargehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:Just wait until New Years Eve. :o

[Lobo]

Speaking of Melina:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Melina.JPG


What a Gift :D

[Hunter Rider]

I have my tongue ready :p, I'll try to get and scan pics. Oh and that avvy will be up ina minute HR can I have a still version also? :D

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/868/07qk.gif

[Twitch]

That will work great for him but I'm thinking of camera angles for the rest of us to get a peak:(

If you want I'll make love to you if you make my avvy :(

[Hunter Rider]

Just wait until New Years Eve. :o

Is that when your personal Melina collection shot through a window from a height will be unveiled ?:eek:

[Hunter Rider]

If you want I'll make love to you if you make my avvy :(

:eek: ......No need to do anything drastic,ill take a look at it now:o

[Sarge 2.0]

Is that when your personal Melina collection shot through a window from a height will be unveiled ?:eek:You'll have to wait and see. :o

[Twitch]

:eek: ......No need to do anything drastic,ill take a look at it now:o

I have such brilliant schemes :o

[Hunter Rider]

I have such brilliant schemes :o

hehhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif,here ya go

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7914/18tc.gif

[Eric Draven]

It will be another blow to WWE's already poor output but i'd rether he retired now than be paralysed by pushing to long,
Mayb he's gonna be the new GM

I could actually see that happening. And it could work within the storyline because he was already Smackdown GM at one point.

And that could help with a push for Davari as well because he could still be Angle's wrestler....

[Sarge 2.0]

I could actually see that happening. And it could work within the storyline because he was already Smackdown GM at one point.

And that could help with a push for Davari as well because he could still be Angle's wrestler....I really hope that's where WWE will go with this...but if that happens, what's Bischoff going to do? I really enjoyed his onscreen character, and if he's gone for good I'll be pretty down about it.

[Twitch]

hehhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif,here ya go

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7914/18tc.gif

OMG sexy

[The Techno Bat]

Kurt Angle kind of going the way of Sgt Slaughter back in the day. I like it, Angle has always been a better heel than a face, and regardless of rumors and stuff I think that Angle should have the WWE title around his waist.

[LastSunrise1981]

Wow, Vince grow the hell up about Bret Hart will you? I know you have soap opera writers creating crap for you, but you know as well as everyone else that Bret Hart has already kicked your ass once.

Bret Hart even after suffering a stroke, paralysis, and many injuries could take you on without breaking a sweat.

By the way, how about that kiss by Mickie James to Trish? Nothing better than watching two hot chicks lip-lock. :) :up:

And Vince, is it necessary for you to do a review of Bret Hart's DVD? We all know how it's going to end. It's going to end with you reviewing Montreal, which shows you truly haven't moved on from it at all. Lots of people have been moving on and have forgotten about it, yet, you still continually bring it up like it happened yesterday. Hey, move on and concentrate on wrestling for once.

[tamron]

With that cell phone call tonight, the beginning of the end of Shelton Benjamin career is coming: his mother.

[Colossal Spoons]

Here comes mama Benjamin!

[Lobo]

Smackdown was kinda boring tonight exceprt for Melina :o

How was raw :confused:

[Lobo]

Below is a Pic of Shelton Benjamin's Mama I'm going to hell when i die :(









http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/fireblaze614/milky.jpg

[Sarge 2.0]

Smackdown was kinda boring tonight exceprt for Melina :o

How was raw :confused:What happened?

Oh, and on Raw:

Kane goes in last in the EC
Mickie James kissed Trish. :up:
Triple H used the sledgehammer on Big Show's hand during the contract signing.
Vince goes out and talks about the Montreal Scewjob, then HBK tells him to move on. Vince tells him that he might have to move HBK on, and that he might have to screw him.
Other than that, nothing much. There was an amusing match between Carlito and Victoria, and an equally amusing one between Kurt and Daivari.

[Gameruler]

It's kind of appropriate that Carlito had to face Victoria because that's the only actual person he could beat without cheating.

Carlito sucks. When will they leave him out of the main events?

[Sarge 2.0]

I kind of wish Bret would put the grudge he's holding behind him...seeing him appear tonight would've been the most amazing thing ever.

[Lobo]

What happened?

Oh, and on Raw:

Kane goes in last in the EC
Mickie James kissed Trish. :up:
Triple H used the sledgehammer on Big Show's hand during the contract signing.
Vince goes out and talks about the Montreal Scewjob, then HBK tells him to move on. Vince tells him that he might have to move HBK on, and that he might have to screw him.
Other than that, nothing much. There was an amusing match between Carlito and Victoria, and an equally amusing one between Kurt and Daivari.


I got there a little late, I'll place spoiler tags on what I got to see

Lashley beat Burchill and Regal ian Handicap match
Matt hardy beat Booker T by KO (I think Booker may have actually injured himself not sure tho)
Boogeyman beat Sylvan grenier
MNM lost to the Mexicools, and I had a beautiful view of Melina :D
Batista and Benoit defeated Randy and JBL in the main event

[Sarge 2.0]

Nobody like Batista, Orton, or Taker showed up? That must've been disappointing.

[Lobo]

Batista and Orton were in the main event :confused:

[LastSunrise1981]

I kind of wish Bret would put the grudge he's holding behind him...seeing him appear tonight would've been the most amazing thing ever.

He probably would if Vince would the same thing and let it go.

[Sarge 2.0]

Batista and Orton were in the main event :confused:You should've said that. :mad:

Was it a title shot? Or just a regular singles match?

[Lobo]

Batista/Benoit vs Randy/JBL was the main evetn

[Sarge 2.0]

So, Batista and Benoit won?

[Eric Draven]

Are they making Kurt Angle into another Muhammad Hassan? :confused:

And this whole thing with McMahon and Shawn could actually set up a Cena-Shawn feud with Cena going heel (I hope). Gotta love the fan chanting going on tonight. Especially the "Let's go Cena-Let's go Shelton" (in which the majority of the Cena chants sounded like they came from girls).

[Sarge 2.0]

Heh, my favorite was when Vince said "There's no more WCW..."

and everyone chants "TNA TNA TNA"

The "We Want Bret!" chants were also good.

[NDX]

Especially the "Let's go Cena-Let's go Shelton" (in which the majority of the Cena chants sounded like they came from girls).
Actually, it sound more like it was coming from children in the crowd, but if you watch some of the footage you can see there was a group in the front row of kids, 'tweens, and 20-somethings chanting for Cena.

And I really enjoyed the Angel/Daivari match and how it was worked. Very well done.

Is it me or does it seem like someone is finally teaching Chris Masters how to actually wrestle, and he's starting to listen?

[Eric Draven]

Heh, my favorite was when Vince said "There's no more WCW..."

and everyone chants "TNA TNA TNA"

The "We Want Bret!" chants were also good.

Yeah, I thought I heard the TNA chants as well....although that chant was a bit more muted....

[kane9321]

ahh i liked what i just saw mickie and trish..yummy

[kane9321]

triple h is the f'n man

[punishermax]

triple h is the f'n man

Don't see that much on the internet, but I agree with ya.

[Sarge 2.0]

Don't see that much on the internet, but I agree with ya.So do I. :o

I hate being so different from the IWC. :(


Wait...no I don't. :o

[NDX]

Don't see that much on the internet, but I agree with ya.
Indeed. I'm looking forward to the highlights of the Bigshow/Triple H match, but this goes to show you that WWE has no intentions of creating a respectable tag team division on Raw where both tag champs are participants in not tag matches, leaving no title defense on the next PPV.

[Sarge 2.0]

Indeed. I'm looking forward to the highlights of the Bigshow/Triple H match, but this goes to show you that WWE has no intentions of creating a respectable tag team division on Raw where both tag champs are participants in not tag matches, leaving no title defense on the next PPV.Having someone other than Cena defend their title isn't something that Vince likes done. This is why the TNA Tag Division rules so much.

[Donnie Darko]

My brother got me the Bret Hart dvd for Christmas. Now, I have always been a Bret fan, but watching some of this dvd tonight... WOW. I can't believe I took him for granted as much as I did when he was around. Especially compared to the guys wrestling now, his wrestling was a freaking art form. His really early stuff in Stampede with the Dynamite Kid when he was first starting out was 100x better than most guys are in their prime.

[TheVileOne]

What was the point of that last ridiculous interview segment on RAW?

Are they going to do HBK vs. Vince now? Please for the love of God no. Enough with Vince already.

[The Ghoul]

i wasn't entirley sure what i was watching. it didnt seem like it had much of a place nor did it have anything to do with anything... just typical vince shocking for the sake of being shocking.

[PyroChamber]

That will work great for him but I'm thinking of camera angles for the rest of us to get a peak:(You mean like this?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6295/melinaupskirtbesteverperiod3pl.jpg

[TheVileOne]

And yes. They are basically making Kurt Angle the new Muhammed Hassan. And its disgusting as well.

[Gameruler]

There should be a WWE vs. TNA thing. I wasn't a wrestling fan back when there was the Monday Night War. :(
I don't know if anyone else would like to see this. But I think it could be interesting.

[3dman27]

it might be at that

[Sabretooth]

I really enjoyed the part with Vince and Shawn,at first I figured they were both just gonna talk about screwing Bret,but they really didn't.What was the point of asking,''How does Bret look?'' when they were seen shaking hands recently? I guess for a cheap shot,but I think Bret could give Vince a black eye for Vince's other eye if he wanted to.

And I AM SO GLAD people are starting to want Shelton,I loved their match last night,especially the part with crowd going back and forth. This is just like the 90's except Lex Luger is Cena and Bret Hart is Benjamin. WHy would they break this up for the angle with his mama? :(

And,gotta love the Trish/Mickie James segment. Hope Candice and Victoria watch that part,that's how women kiss :D :up:

[Sabretooth]

There should be a WWE vs. TNA thing. I wasn't a wrestling fan back when there was the Monday Night War. :(
I don't know if anyone else would like to see this. But I think it could be interesting.
Nah,TNA fighting with WWE now is just suicide. Their ratings recently have been awesome,but they need more recognition before Vince opens his eyes.

Bret Hart said he's interested with TNA,that would definitely help out,especially with Vince not letting the past go.

[NDX]

Matt hardy beat Booker T by KO (I think Booker may have actually injured himself not sure tho)

Credit: Wrestling Observer

Tonight during a match with Matt Hardy in White Plains, N.Y. Booker T suffered an injury to his right leg. We don’t have many details on it yet.

All I can report right now is that after the match officials were surrounding him. He was then helped out of the ring and had a hard time getting to the back.

Tomorrow night Booker T is scheduled to face Chris Benoit at the SmackDown! Tapings in Uncasville, CT in match No. 5 of the best-of-seven series.

Damn, that sucks for Booker T. Was looking forward to match 5. And damn, that is two shows I can bus to within 2 weeks I'm missing. I need a job.
___

In case you missed it last night, John Cena has a new maneuver called the STFU, which is derived from a nasty internet slang.

The site I use for news seems to be a few weeks behind because I strickly remember ripping apart the name "STFU" for the move when Joey Styles first coined it during the "I Quite!" triple threat match last 3 or 4 weeks ago .

[Sabretooth]

If Cena needs a new finisher,please,turn it into that spinning powerbomb he used to do.That one was pretty cool.

Besides,we've already got a wrestler with a crappy submission finisher.:o

[Donnie Darko]

last night I REALLY thought they were gonna shock us and bring out Bret as the new GM, but obviously that didn't happen

[NDX]

More on Booker T.

Partial Source: PWInsider.com

Some backstage believe that the finish of the Booker T-Matt Hardy match was a "Finlay Finish", as WWE agent Dave Finlay has been known to do injury angles leading to the end of matches. Many fans who were in attendance thought it was real. Booker T was able to walk to the back under his own power so it may have just been a cramp.

Also:

Indy workers The Outcast Killaz received a tryout prior to RAW yesterday. They will be at today's SmackDown! tapings as well. Former ROH champion Xavier was also backstage at last night's RAW.

I wouldn't mind seeing Outcast Killaz in WWE if the WWE actually had some form of tag team division on either brand. At this time it would just be a waste of their talent.

And I wonder what ever happened to Papadon from the Solution. I heard he was heading to OVW around 7 months or so ago from his wife, yet I read him teaming up with Havoc for indy events recently.

[SLYspyder]

You mean like this?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6295/melinaupskirtbesteverperiod3pl.jpg

melina is one of the reasons i watch smackdown, she's up there with Trish and Stacy, they're the big 3 right now IMO.

[Sarge 2.0]

Something I don't understand...what was the point of last nights segment between HBK and Vince? Does Vince need to disrespect Bret more than he already has? I don't get it...hopefully this whole thing can be salvaged and actually lead to something good, but it doesn't look like that's happening.

[TheVileOne]

He is Vince McMahon.

[The Techno Bat]

I think the whole Bret vs Vince thing is *YaWn* kind of boring. The whole screwjob thing took place 8 years ago and I think that both of them are past it (95% sure) and are just bringing it to the front as an angle, personally if they are going to bring Bret in I would like to see Bret back in a different way other than bringing him in like this.

But then again there could be alot of anger left in Bret because he does blame the WWE somewhat for the death of his brother, allowing an untrained wrestler do what Owen did.

I found myself flipping through the channels during every single match last night except for the HHH/Big Show segment, and CCC vs Victoria. Ric Flair/Edge was amusing as well. And all together I think those three segments/matches lasted 15-20 minutes, other than that everything else was really boring.

I thought it was great when Torrie's dog ran across the ring during the match, that was funny stuff.

And regardless of what people think if they are not going to put the world title on Kurt Angle, then put it back around the waist of HHH, they need a veteran carrying that strap right now, because John Cena S*CKS he is super sloppy in the ring, and actually has no talent, he puts on a weak STF, and all of his other moves are done half a** and look rushed. Why is he still the world champion? ? ?

Give HHH or Kurt Angle the strap NOW!

[tamron]

I think last night's HBK/Vince segment will eventually lead to an HBK/Cena title match, another screwjob, and a John Cena heel turn.

[misternorth79]

I think last night's HBK/Vince segment will eventually lead to an HBK/Cena title match, another screwjob, and a John Cena heel turn.

Either that or there will be a screwjob at the upcoming PPV since he's one of the guys in the Chamber.

[Gameruler]

I'm a fan of Cena, I think he should stop using the STF. He is supposed to be a "street thug" use the F-U to finish him of not use it then but in the STF when you haven't done anything to the leg or whatever part that submission hurts.

[Hunter Rider]

I havent seen RAW yet but i hear HBK was doing some bible stuff ? if so he is the one going heel trust me

As for the STF,think of it this way,the FU looks bogus,we all know wrestling is a work but the FU isn't believable as a finisher where as the STF can when applied can legitamately tear you up

[Sarge 2.0]

I havent seen RAW yet but i hear HBK was doing some bible stuff ? if so he is the one going heel trust me
Not that I remember, Vince was the one being a dick to HBK, and HBK was the one telling him to move on.

[Lone Wolf]

And,gotta love the Trish/Mickie James segment. Hope Candice and Victoria watch that part,that's how women kiss :D :up:

Bliss.

I read at WWE.com Big Show has a broken hand from what Triple H did to him last night with the hammer.

[Lone Wolf]

double post.

[Hunter Rider]

Not that I remember, Vince was the one being a dick to HBK, and HBK was the one telling him to move on.

so he didn't whip out a bible quote ? i must have been misinformed:confused:

I Heard elsewhere that a new corporate champ is in the offing,lets hope it's Cena but it's probably a McMahon/HBK swerve so Cena can kick HBK's ass at WM22 and "Defy the Odds":(

[Sarge 2.0]

so he didn't whip out a bible quote ? i must have been misinformed:confused:

I Heard elsewhere that a new corporate champ is in the offing,lets hope it's Cena but it's probably a McMahon/HBK swerve so Cena can kick HBK's ass at WM22 and "Defy the Odds":(Hmm, I'm not too familiar with Bible quotings, so I don't think HBK pulled any out. Ten bucks says Cena enters the EC First, so he can "defy the odds" yet again.

[Hunter Rider]

Hmm, I'm not too familiar with Bible quotings, so I don't think HBK pulled any out. Ten bucks says Cena enters the EC First, so he can "defy the odds" yet again.
Is their any part of the Austin/Mcmahon storyline they will leave un-raped ?
They should understand that Cena is never gonna get over by shoving him as unstoppable

[Sarge 2.0]

Is their any part of the Austin/Mcmahon storyline they will leave un-raped ?
They should understand that Cena is never gonna get over by shoving him as unstoppableFace characters like Cenas work better as underdogs...they should have piled losses on him for a few weeks. Alas, they're going for this Stone Cold+Jesus character that they have now.

[Sabretooth]

I guess Vince is half deaf or something. How else can he not notice half the crowd is booing Cena? Hell,last night they were chanting SHelton,who was playing heel/anti-face.

[Colossal Spoons]

You mean like this?

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6295/melinaupskirtbesteverperiod3pl.jpg

I don't even like Melina but :up::up:

[Hunter Rider]

Face characters like Cenas work better as underdogs...they should have piled losses on him for a few weeks. Alas, they're going for this Stone Cold+Jesus character that they have now.

lol,true you have to be credible like Austin or Hart to do the unbeatable champ thing

[White_Howling]

I don't even like Melina but :up::up:


yeah mee too.. but that pic is :up: :up:

[The FallenAngel]

I love Melina, and that pic is awesome. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

It must be a UPN rule or something that they can't show it on SD! cuz the cameramen ALWAYS turn away from her ass when she does that.

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, I think so. I remember a while back in one of her matches against Christy I think, they blurred out every upskirt shot. Damn UPN.

[NDX]

The FCC was on the crackdown since Janet Jackson's Superbowl travesty on CBS(travesty because that was one ugly breast). Ever since then UPN has been sure to keep as much of Melina's backside and crotch off camera since they are basic television.

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn UPN indeed. Vince needs to quit F'in around and buy his own cable network.

[The FallenAngel]

God knows he can afford it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn right he can. Speaking of which. I need to convince the parents to get WWE On Demand. That's a step in the right direction.

[The FallenAngel]

I haven't heard many good things about that WWE On Demand. What's the deal with it? Do they show old matches continuously?

[Colossal Spoons]

Anything from back in the day till now.

[White_Howling]

how much does it cost? wwe indemand?

[Colossal Spoons]

Not sure, knowing Vince though; my left arm.

[Gameruler]

how much does it cost? wwe indemand?
Are you talking about the Insight WWE thing or the Online WWE thing?

[TheVileOne]

WWE 24/7 is a video on demand channel that plays in certain markets.

I imagine the eventual goal though is to start a 24/7 wrestling cable channel. Which Vince McMahon can definitely do since he pretty much f'n owns everything.

[Gameruler]

Yeah I don't have a job but I got $80 so I think I'm going to get it for a while. I was thinking that Vince should make a WWE channel. That would be cool. It would cost him a lot because he would have to fill it with a bunch of shows.

[PyroChamber]

After reading the results for Smackdown, I don't even know it's even worth watching this week. Out of curiousity, what's everyone's favorite type of match?

Mine is the battle royal and Royal Rumble matches, because those are the ones where it'll look like almost anyone can win. I once rented an old WWF tape and saw a 40 man battle royal, it was hard to move around in the ring but Bret Hart manage to winm

And with the RR match, I liked the old school ones when they didn't play the entrance music as soon as someone new came out; you had to guest who was coming out next.

Favorite Royal Rumbles: 92, 93, and 94.

BTW; RR matches predetermined also, or do they have it where whoever wins the writers will built a storyline around them afterwards?

[NDX]

Well, he could have paid programming from 4 AM to 10 AM, and the rest filled with classic RAWs and Smackdown!s, classic Saturday Night Main Events and Superstars, highlight shows, superstar career highlight shows, and monthly events.

But then again, even I don't think I can stomach a wrestling channel. I'd never be able to watch anything else, and as much as I like wrestling, I like watching non-RAW/Smackdown!/iMPACT/Lucha Libre shows on my own schedule and not all day.

I would, however, love to see a few more wrestling shows on television here or there, perhaps indy feds finding cable channels to show on.

[NDX]

BTW; RR matches predetermined also, or do they have it where whoever wins the writers will built a storyline around them afterwards?

Predetermined, because the only reason I bought Royal Rumble 2004 was because I read over and over Chris Benoit was going to win the match and go to WrestleMania and wrestle for the title (even though it wasn't determined if he was going to win the title at the time).

Favorite type of match, I like a classic cage match. 8 feet high chain link fence along the perimeter of the ring keep wrestlers in and interference out. And none of that escape bull, just two people beating the holy hell out of one another until we have a guarenteed winner.

Speaking of Royal Rumble, with the WWE releasing WrestleMania as an anthology, do you think they should do that for their other big PPVs? I know I would like a SummerSlam and Royal Rumble boxed sets.

[kane9321]

whoa whoa..timeout. My goddess victoria and candice were kissing...AND I MISSED IT ?..when did this happen?

[The FallenAngel]

It happened a while ago. It was pretty hot, but not as good as Mickie and Trish. They didn't even really kiss, it was more like a peck.

[Spider-Nerd]

sable/torrie is the only thing to talk about if we're talking about divas.

[NDX]

How about WWE hires some actual women wrestlers like they had back in the 1980s and make these Divas valets again. Now, of course, this excludes Victoria, Trish and Jame (although she has yet to impress me in the ring).

I haven't seen Melina or Jillian Hall in the ring yet, so I cant talk about them.

[Sarge 2.0]

Melina put on a great match with Trish at Survivor Series. She really needs to move to Raw and get a singles career going, 'cause the womens division on Smackdown is pretty nonexistant.

[Hunter Rider]

From the Wrestling Observer

-Charlie Haas is being brought back, and possibly "Jesus" Aaron Aguilera and Chuck Palumbo. the deal with Palumbo is that they got some press after mentioning his brother Chris is a war hero.

-Johnny Ace is interested in Samoa Joe as "the top level heel Rikishi couldn't pull off".

[Lobo]

no one appreciated my mama Benjamin pic :(

[NDX]

no one appreciated my mama Benjamin pic :(
She was just too beautiful to comment on... ... yeah... ignore the fact that I've been twitching uncontrollably since seeing it.

I'm all for Haas coming back. Of all the releases last year, he was the only wrestler I didn't want to see leave the company.

Now they show interest in Joe when he's signed to TNA, and they had a chance to pick him up when he was still running the indy curcuit along with Punk. Why the hell did they wait? Oh yeah, they thought he might be too heavy. And then we get Trevor Murdoch. I'm just confused now.

[Sabretooth]

sable/torrie is the only thing to talk about if we're talking about divas.
Torrie isn't as hot as people make her out to be,she's hot yeah,but she's 85% plastic.



Victoria,however,is a goddess. They should have her turn on Candice and Torrie and go back to being psycho.

[Lobo]

Hunter, I'll try and get to that pm later today ok?

[Sabretooth]

She was just too beautiful to comment on... ... yeah... ignore the fact that I've been twitching uncontrollably since seeing it.

I'm all for Haas coming back. Of all the releases last year, he was the only wrestler I didn't want to see leave the company.

Now they show interest in Joe when he's signed to TNA, and they had a chance to pick him up when he was still running the indy curcuit along with Punk. Why the hell did they wait? Oh yeah, they thought he might be too heavy. And then we get Trevor Murdoch. I'm just confused now.
They also said they'd love to have Punk if he toned down a bit. Well,he definitely toned down,he's not in the ring anymore.:rolleyes:

[NDX]

Good Old WWE, wasting actual talent for muscleheads and lumps with legs.

[Sabretooth]

Good Old WWE, wasting actual talent for muscleheads and lumps with legs.
It'll bit them in the ass eventually.:o

[Hunter Rider]

Hunter, I'll try and get to that pm later today ok?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:

[NDX]

It'll bit them in the ass eventually.:o

Hopefully sooner than later so they finally wake the **** up. The product has gone downhill because of the wrestlers they have chosen to push as of late.

[The FallenAngel]

I pray that Samoa Joe never goes to the WWE. That would be horrible. I didn't realize so many people were fans of Victoria. I've never really been interested with her. I think Melina should go to Raw, and compete in the Women's Division. This latest crap with her filing a law suit against Batista isn't what she should be doing.

[misternorth79]

If Samoa Joe were to go to WWE, that would mean the end of his career.

[TheVileOne]

Why would Haas want to go back to the WWE?

That would be pretty awkward with his wife in TNA.

I think the Joe rumors are BS.

[tamron]

I'd be all for Charlie coming back, but he had problems with SmackDown head writer Dave Lagana and has aired his beef out with him in several interviews since his firing. The problem is Lagana has the ear of Steph and Vince McMahon, so that rumor of Charlie's return may be hot air.

I wish Palumbo and Johnny the Bull never got axed. That version of the FBI was great, but the WWE doesn't care about tag wrestling right now, anyway.

Rikishi could have pulled off being a top-level heel, but that idiot didn't want to be a heel, despite the fact the "driver" angle garnered him the best reactions of his career.

Victoria is a goddess, my favorite diva by far.

[The FallenAngel]

Has anyone seen Joe vs. CM Punk 2 and Joe vs. Kobashi? I'm thinking of getting them, but I wanted to know if they are worth it?

[TheVileOne]

I'd love to see Haas in TNA, not back in WWE.

FallenAngel, both those matches are definitely worth it.

[PyroChamber]

How about WWE hires some actual women wrestlers like they had back in the 1980s and make these Divas valets again. Now, of course, this excludes Victoria, Trish and Jame (although she has yet to impress me in the ring).

I haven't seen Melina or Jillian Hall in the ring yet, so I cant talk about them.Apparently Melina and Jillian started out in OVW and people said they are actually good in the ring, but you can't really tell being that they're valets and don't get much of a chance to get in the ring.

When was the last time the WWE had a Diva that could actually wrestle without having some stupid storyline to go with her, was it when Madusa was there?

[The Techno Bat]

Victoria,however,is a goddess. They should have her turn on Candice and Torrie and go back to being psycho.

And also bring back her old ring music, that song by TATU, she was awesome when she was phycho, and I can't remember the last time I saw her actually hit The Widow's Peak, what a great finisher, strong and powerful. Unlike that dumb ass finisher Trish has, that springboard bull dog she does is soooooooooo weak! WWE fired all the women wrestlers with actual wrestling talent. Gail Kim, Jackie Gayda, Molly Holly.

Now don't get me wrong it's great looking at HOT woman, but when you put them in the ring to wrestle, and they can't it's get real old, they rip off there clothes and then what? They try to put on a match for 5-10 minutes that really isn't easy to watch because as hot as they are trying to wrestle, it's embarrassing to watch them actually wrestle. When it gets down to it we want to see wrestling!

[Sabretooth]

That's what's great about Victoria,she's hot and has in ring skills. She has mic skills too,it's just they've made her Trish and Torrie's stooge for the past 3 years.

[Mister J]

Yeah, Victoria's been gotten hosed over. Her title run was good for the limited exposure they'd give to the women's title. They just start stories with her and then drop them. It's all about eye candy with WWE. At least Trish has taken the time to be a credible performer. As good as it is to see HLA, why Trish and Victoria (and even Lita) aren't feuding is beyond me. And then they get rid of Christy who wanted to be trained because she allegedly got excited over touring with HHH. I just don't know about that Vince guy sometimes.

[Sabretooth]

One thing I thought was pretty cool about Victoria was her angle with Steven Richards. It was just so random and the two are exact opposites.

[The FallenAngel]

Vince is a dick, plain and simple. I think if they are gonna have a Women's Division, at least make it so they can wrestle. Now don't get me wrong, I like Mickie James alot, but she just got there, and now she is getting a title shot? She hasn't done anything to get a title shot. Victoria is the one who deserves the title.

[tamron]

And then they get rid of Christy who wanted to be trained because he allegedly got excited over touring with HHH. I just don't know about that Vince guy sometimes.

Christy's release had a little more to it then that. Yes, Stephanie got mad that Christy was excited about traveling overseas with HHH and Flair. And the WWE was all for her training. But Christy's Diva Search contract, which paid her much, much more than the established divas, ran out, and she refused to sign a standard deal.

[Sabretooth]

It's the same matches every week too. either a 6-woman tag or Mickie James vs. Candice. Though,I heard now they'll be spanning the women's championship to both shows. So then they'd have Jillian(who CAN wrestle,they just won't let her) and Melina.

[misternorth79]

I think they should turn the Women's division into a mud-wrestling division.

[The FallenAngel]

Why won't they let Jillian wrestle?

[Sabretooth]

I guess to manage MNM,and now JBL. That,or they just don't have anyone for her to wrestle.

OR,Vince doesn't care enough.:o

[PyroChamber]

I guess to manage MNM,and now JBL. That,or they just don't have anyone for her to wrestle.That might be a good reason; being that Melina is managing MNM, Sharmell is with Booker T, Christy is gone, and Stacy is off doing that Dancing with the Stars show. I don't know about anyone else, but I think it's time they let Stacy go I mean she really doesn't seem to be into being in the WWE like she use to.

Also, this means that whoever is the Women's champ will get to wrestle on RAW and Smackdown? Kinda like how they did with the World championship when the brand extension first started.

[Super_Ludacris]

Is that Bret Hart DVD worth getting? I was big fan of his when Wrestling was relevant back when I was like 12 and it kinda looks good anyone seen it?

[Sabretooth]

Is that Bret Hart DVD worth getting? I was big fan of his when Wrestling was relevant back when I was like 12 and it kinda looks good anyone seen it?
I got it for Christmas,I've only watched the first disk thus far but so far it's great. Definitely recommend it for any Bret fan or and wrestling fan in general :up:

[Super_Ludacris]

Right, it's getting brought by the end of the week then cheers

[Hunter Rider]

WWE have a chance to do something great with this Vince/HBK thing,i hope it goes where i think it is going

[Super_Ludacris]

where's that?

[TheVileOne]

Is that Bret Hart DVD worth getting? I was big fan of his when Wrestling was relevant back when I was like 12 and it kinda looks good anyone seen it?
Its more than worth it. It is without a doubt a MUST OWN.

[DOG LIPS]

"Don't make me make you make me make you move on." :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

where's that?

Having Vince and HBK screw Cena over and flaunt it at Bret,Then have Benoit win the Rumble and go to RAW to go after HBK over the disrespect to Bret
WM22 Main Event-HBK/W Vince vs Benoit/W Bret

[Super_Ludacris]

Bret aint coming back is he?

[The FallenAngel]

Having Vince and HBK screw Cena over and flaunt it at Bret,Then have Benoit win the Rumble and go to RAW to go after HBK over the disrespect to Bret
WM22 Main Event-HBK/W Vince vs Benoit/W BretAs mush as I'd like that to happen, it probably won't. I highly doubt Bret will come back, and I don't think Benoit will go to Raw to go after HBK. And Vince said he would screw HBK, not Cena. I think this is setting up for a possible Cena heel turn. Besides, I thought it was said that Orton was winning the Rumble so he would get the belt at WM 22?

[Hunter Rider]

Bret aint coming back is he?

I see no point in this whole thing with the DVD and HBK if Bret wasn't set to make an appearence,no one is interested in HBK vs Vince and the WWE desperately need something to headline WM22 that the fans actually care about and Cena vs Edge vs HHH aint it

[Hunter Rider]

As mush as I'd like that to happen, it probably won't. I highly doubt Bret will come back, and I don't think Benoit will go to Raw to go after HBK. And Vince said he would screw HBK, not Cena. I think this is setting up for a possible Cena heel turn.

The way i see it is that it's the classic wrestling blind,make it look like HBK is gonna get screwed but in truth he is in it with Vince

[The FallenAngel]

Could be Hunter. But by the time that all happens, I don't think anyone will even care if Cena got screwed. Everyone is growing tired of him already.

[Spider-Nerd]

Is that Bret Hart DVD worth getting? I was big fan of his when Wrestling was relevant back when I was like 12 and it kinda looks good anyone seen it?
i tell you what. You watch that dvd, and it reminds you why wrestling is so great.

[Gameruler]

Did you hear that Melina is "sueing" Batista for sexual harrassment?

[White_Howling]

Did you hear that Melina is "sueing" Batista for sexual harrassment?

whoa no way.. where'd u read that? got a website..

i thought batista is mr. niceguy.. plus hes got kids

[NDX]

Thanks to The Pro Wrestling Torch for help with some of the following:

Morale within the WWE lockerroom is at a ten year lowpoint according to PWTorch.com, with Eddie Guerrero’s death, the impending drug testing and Johnny Ace’s management style all making working for the company feel more like an obligation than a dream come true. Top WWE names like Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker are very unimpressed with the current atmosphere, and a number of veterans, in general, have expressed frustration with the poor training accompanying many of the younger wrestlers.

Chris Benoit, who will be up for a contract renewal very soon, has been keeping to himself since Guerrero’s death. His contractual decision is being closely followed by everyone in the lockerroom, as Benoit is respected as a model for making the right decision based on the circumstances.

Tajiri’s wife, eager to spend more time with her frequently-traveling husband, had been pushing for his leaving WWE. The company, interested in keeping Tajiri on-board, arranged to get her a driver’s license in the United States so that she could live more of a life in her husband’s absence, but when Eddie Guerrero died, Tajiri put the situation into perspective and decided to move back to Japan with his spouse.

Matt Hardy has been flying under the proverbial radar backstage, simply showing up and working in a way that, sans the incident with Undertaker at Survivor Series, will not anger WWE management. Although Hardy has yet to publicly say he made a mistake in signing with WWE over TNA, many are of the impression that he does feel that way. Hardy reportedly keeps an eye on TNA to see what “could have been” if he signed with the number two company instead.

I think we can all agree that Hardy should have gone the way of TNA and ROH instead of returning to the WWE and essentially killing his own career (at least for the time being).

And the Melina "lawuit" was posted at WWE.com I believe. The just keeps going downhill.

[The Ghoul]

Vince is a dick, plain and simple. I think if they are gonna have a Women's Division, at least make it so they can wrestle. Now don't get me wrong, I like Mickie James alot, but she just got there, and now she is getting a title shot? She hasn't done anything to get a title shot. Victoria is the one who deserves the title.

Woah Woah! Alexis Laree is a major name in all of wrestling. Not just the indies, but TNA & i THINK a short stint aroubd the end of WCW, (think being the key word i have stoner memory) before WWE became gay & nixed it there was an idea for her & CM Punk to be a tag team (not valet, tag team). And when she was finally brought in the decided to use her real name instead of her established one. but the point is she is one of... if not the best female wrestler today.

[PyroChamber]

whoa no way.. where'd u read that? got a website..

i thought batista is mr. niceguy.. plus hes got kidsEh, it's just part of a storyline on Smackdown involving Batista, MNM and Mark Henry.

[NDX]

Wait a sec, they brought back Mark Henry for this? Damn, they are getting desperate.

[White_Howling]

Eh, it's just part of a storyline on Smackdown involving Batista, MNM and Mark Henry.

oh nvrmind.. i thought it was real.. didn'ts ee it on wwe

[NDX]

Partial Credit: Paul Nemer

On this weeks edition of WWE Byte This, a caller asked about a possible WCW reunion show, but before the caller hung up they commented that “TNA is better then WWE.” Momentarily Todd Grisham got mad and told him to call the TNA show if they have one.

Also another caller stated that “TNA is better than WWE” and then hung up quickly. Todd immediately fired back by saying, “So why are you calling our show, retard?” “Call the TNA Show if they have one.”

Maybe well see a rivalry here between the companies soon.

[PyroChamber]

Here's some news about Gregory Helms and Stacy Keibler courtesy of NoDQ.com...

Partial Credit: WWE.com

The band by the name of “Zebrahead” has recently finished recording a new theme song for Stacy Keibler. It is being reported that WWE will be using the theme song in January. Stacy currently has been working with the dance program, and has been advised to appear at a SmackDown! Taping in mid-January.

Look for Gregory Helms to be feuding with Jerry “The King” Lawler when he makes his television return. This past Monday on WWE Unlimited he stated that Jerry Lawler has been saying bad things about him, and he’s making him out to be a joke. He then proceeded to state that Helms has plans on shutting him up.

Also Helms feels as if he is being held down and he doesn’t like the fact that he is not on RAW.

Helms as of yet hasn’t wrestled a live edition of RAW since he ditched “The Hurricane” gimmick. Lately he has been competing only at house shows and WWE Heat. Jerry Lawler never commentates on Heat as Jonathan Coachman and Todd Grisham do.
Not too sure if I'll enjoy a Helms/Lawler feud, but it's about time they changed Keibler's theme song; she's had that "Legs" theme since 2001.

[GLfan]

It's about time they start using Gregory Helms! Just because he's not big like HHH, Kane, and Bigshow they won't give him the push he deserves. What's up wit dat?

[The FallenAngel]

Woah Woah! Alexis Laree is a major name in all of wrestling. Not just the indies, but TNA & i THINK a short stint aroubd the end of WCW, (think being the key word i have stoner memory) before WWE became gay & nixed it there was an idea for her & CM Punk to be a tag team (not valet, tag team). And when she was finally brought in the decided to use her real name instead of her established one. but the point is she is one of... if not the best female wrestler today.I know she is one of the best female wrestlers there is, and I respect that. I'm just sayin', she just got here on Raw, and hasn't really wrestled THAT many matches to really show she is deserving a title shot ALREADY. I think the way it should go is, Victoria gets a title shot, wins, and have her feud with Mickie over it. Trish can be in there somewhere, but she always has the title. It should be with someone else for a while.