Wrestling

[The FallenAngel]

I'm glad to see they are using Helms in some form, even if it is a feud with Lawler. Basically, the only reason he isn't gettin' a nice push is because he is not a big muscle bound freak, like the guys Vince likes to shove down our throats.

[kane9321]

QUOTE" Victoria,however,is a goddess. They should have her turn on Candice and Torrie and go back to being psycho "

Truer words have never been spoken!!!:)

[Sabretooth]

I think we can all agree that Hardy should have gone the way of TNA and ROH instead of returning to the WWE and essentially killing his own career (at least for the time being).

And the Melina "lawuit" was posted at WWE.com I believe. The just keeps going downhill.
What happened with Hardy and Taker at Survivor Series? :confused:


And it's hilarious what happened on Byte This. It's weird hearing Todd Grisham talk like that because he's usually portrayed as a coward :D

[TheVileOne]

Feuding with Lawler will do nothing for Helms.

Feuding wit Lawler pretty much ruined Tazz. How about putting Helms up against you know...A GOOD WORKER?!

[The FallenAngel]

Feuding with Lawler will do nothing for Helms.

Feuding wit Lawler pretty much ruined Tazz. How about putting Helms up against you know...A GOOD WORKER?!I remember that Tazz/Lawler thing. It wasn't good at all. I agree with you that Helms needs to be put with a good worker. He's an awesome wrestler. Whatever happens with this Lawler thing, I just hope it doesn't last too long.

[Eric Draven]

If anything Helms needs to be in the IC title hunt. I honestly don't get it, Raw has plenty of midcarders who could make the IC title worth something, yet they still keep it on Flair....:confused:

[3dman27]

what melina lawsuit?

[LastSunrise1981]

Partial Credit: Paul Nemer

On this weeks edition of WWE Byte This, a caller asked about a possible WCW reunion show, but before the caller hung up they commented that “TNA is better then WWE.” Momentarily Todd Grisham got mad and told him to call the TNA show if they have one.

Also another caller stated that “TNA is better than WWE” and then hung up quickly. Todd immediately fired back by saying, “So why are you calling our show, retard?” “Call the TNA Show if they have one.”

Maybe well see a rivalry here between the companies soon.

As much as I hate WWE's current product, I sincerely hope TNA doesn't try to form a rivalry anytime soon. TNA is not ready to battle WWE in terms of ratings, because Vince will turn it up and find a way to buy TNA, in order to avoid more competition in the future.

TNA just needs to continue doing what they're doing and slowly build up a fanbase.

That's why Vince is holding on to Heyman, for he knows if Paul leaves and goes to TNA, they'll become a legitimate contender in the future and Vince does not want competition at all. He enjoys being the only product and knows people don't have much of an alternative now, other than when TNA appears on TV obviously.

[The Flash!]

Helms fueding with Lawler? Sweet.

[Sabretooth]

As much as I hate WWE's current product, I sincerely hope TNA doesn't try to form a rivalry anytime soon. TNA is not ready to battle WWE in terms of ratings, because Vince will turn it up and find a way to buy TNA, in order to avoid more competition in the future.

TNA just needs to continue doing what they're doing and slowly build up a fanbase.

That's why Vince is holding on to Heyman, for he knows if Paul leaves and goes to TNA, they'll become a legitimate contender in the future and Vince does not want competition at all. He enjoys being the only product and knows people don't have much of an alternative now, other than when TNA appears on TV obviously.
Exactly. Why do you think he told Shawn there's nowhere for him to go? Because he isn't scared of TNA,he wants them to come after him. Believe me,Vince knows exactly what he's doing,unfortunately.:(

[The FallenAngel]

what melina lawsuit?It's part of the story from the other night when Melina tryed to convince Batista to not wrestle MNM. She is filing a lawsuit against him for sexual harrasment. It supposedly involves Mark Henry

[Mister J]

The whole lawsuit thing sounds like its going to suck major testicles. What are they thinking? Mark Hnery has never done anything notable other than underachieve.

[Eric Draven]

Exactly. Why do you think he told Shawn there's nowhere for him to go? Because he isn't scared of TNA,he wants them to come after him. Believe me,Vince knows exactly what he's doing,unfortunately.:(

That is very true. Sure the WWE may not be firing on all cylinders at the moment. But once a company like TNA steps up and becomes a true contender against the WWE (and that might take a few years. How long was it until WCW actually became a viable contender agaisnt the WWF), Vince will make sure that the WWE will be able to put the other companies out of business again....

[TheVileOne]

Instead we get Edge vs. Flair at New Year's Revolution. Even though Edge already held the IC title five times and is supposed to be a world title contender with his money in the bank crap.

Why not give us Flair vs. Helms?

[Eric Draven]

Instead we get Edge vs. Flair at New Year's Revolution. Even though Edge already held the IC title five times and is supposed to be a world title contender with his money in the bank crap.

Why not give us Flair vs. Helms?

Edge is obviously saving the Money in the Bank for WM. That would allow for a SD wrestler to win the Rumble (Randy Orton maybe?)

But yeah, it is a waste for Edge to get an IC title shot when Raw has Trevor Murdoch, Chavo Guerrero, Gregory Helms, Shelton Benjamin, Davari, Rob Conway, etc who could all be IC champion instead....

[Mister J]

Instead we get Edge vs. Flair at New Year's Revolution. Even though Edge already held the IC title five times and is supposed to be a world title contender with his money in the bank crap.

Why not give us Flair vs. Helms?

Now right off the bat Vile, that makes entirely too much sense to be used in WWE programming. I'll have to ask you to come up with more ridiculous and illogical scenarios to fit in with the suits in Stamford, CT.

[TheVileOne]

I'm just saying, Flair vs. Edge doesn't really do anything for anybody. Edge has already beaten Flair before. He's held the IC title several times. Why not have Flair give the rub to Helms?

Also, you gotta thing they'd want to do HHH vs. Cena at Wrestlemania 22.

[NDX]

Flair putting over any wrestler other than Edge would be a good idea right now, be it Helms, Murdock, Conway, or Guerrero. Those stars are more deserving of the push, especially Chavo since he has a lot of backing right now following Eddie's death.

[LastSunrise1981]

That is very true. Sure the WWE may not be firing on all cylinders at the moment. But once a company like TNA steps up and becomes a true contender against the WWE (and that might take a few years. How long was it until WCW actually became a viable contender agaisnt the WWF), Vince will make sure that the WWE will be able to put the other companies out of business again....

It took quite a few years before WCW began contending with WWF. If I remember correctly, they didn't start competing with WWF/WWE until around 1996-1997.

[punishermax]

It took quite a few years before WCW began contending with WWF. If I remember correctly, they didn't start competing with WWF/WWE until around 1996-1997.

Actually it was when Nitro first came on, that WCW started really competing with the WWE.

http://www.onlineonslaught.com/features/mnw-intro.shtml

This is a very good read that deals in depth with the Monday Night Wars, it brought back a lot of memories.

[The FallenAngel]

I would like to see Chavo get a push for the IC Title, then have him feud with Helms. Those two in the ring with each other would be an excellent match.

[TheVileOne]

That'd be nice, but I get the feeling the only reason Chavo is still around is because of one word, Eddie.

[Eklypze]

That'd be nice, but I get the feeling the only reason Chavo is still around is because of one word, Eddie.

i couldnt agree more

[Gameruler]

whoa no way.. where'd u read that? got a website..

i thought batista is mr. niceguy.. plus hes got kids
It was on WWE.com. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a storyline thing. I think it all started 2 weeks ago on Smackdown.


Everyone just wanted to let you know I got my WWF Hardcore DVD today and it's freakin' awesome. Everyone should get this DVD, it will change your life. Ok not really but it's still cool. :D

[LastSunrise1981]

That'd be nice, but I get the feeling the only reason Chavo is still around is because of one word, Eddie.

They should push him and have him carry on Eddie's legacy. He's getting great pops and more respect from the fans. The least WWE can do is push him and give him an IC title reign.

Of course, we all know WWE is dumb when it comes to logic.

[The FallenAngel]

It may be that the only reason he is still around is cause of Eddie, but he IS the only Guerrero wrestling now, and he is a very good wrestler at that. I think he deserves an IC Title reign, not just because of Eddie, but because he deserves it.

[LastSunrise1981]

It may be that the only reason he is still around is cause of Eddie, but he IS the only Guerrero wrestling now, and he is a very good wrestler at that. I think he deserves an IC Title reign, not just because of Eddie, but because he deserves it.

He definitely deserves it. But he should also be given a real push to carry on Eddie's legacy and maybe even win the World title too. Chavo has always been under-used and they should start using him now, before it's too late and people lose interest.

Chavo has always been a favorite of mine and I would love to see him get a better push.

[The Ghoul]

at least they are taking it into consideration. when I saw him come out for his match with Masters, I cringed. I thought it was goin to be squash, but the way the match paned out I was not only surprised but throroughly entertained. the need to capitalize on that real ****in quick

[Gameruler]

I also think they should do more with Chavo. It's like they think he's only good for the Cruiserweight division.

So it would be nice to see him have IC gold. Sort of like Eddie used to have it.

[punishermax]

I think WWE needs to have somebody other than Flair as IC champ, I don't care anymore just give it to someone else.

[punishermax]

I think WWE needs to have somebody other than Flair as IC champ, I don't care anymore just give it to someone else.

[Hunter Rider]

I think WWE needs to have somebody other than Flair as IC champ, I don't care anymore just give it to someone else.

Murdoch is the most likely right now,the other guys in the running haven't been booked all that strongly as of late and Carlito and Masters seem to have moved past the division

[The FallenAngel]

Murdoch is the most likely right now,the other guys in the running haven't been booked all that strongly as of late and Carlito and Masters seem to have moved past the divisionUnfortuneately, you're right. They have moved past it, when in fact they are under it.

[Gameruler]

They should have never passed being under the IC division. :o

Great. I missed another episode of Smackdown. I get too caught up in other things and miss it. Anything good happen?

[Eklypze]

well take it this way.......we just saw sexual chocolate make his return lol

[The FallenAngel]

Wow, Mysterio has really stepped it up. That was amazing on his part. And holy crap, Mark Henry is pretty damn strong to lift Batista like that. But that doesn't matter, he still sucks.

[Hunter Rider]

Rey is the best performer on SD and should be the next World champ
Batista vs Mark Henry.....there's a money match for ya:p

[Mister J]

Henry =
Strong: Yes
Good Worker and Main Eventer: Oh, Hells No!

[Sabretooth]

Who was that Finlay guy who aired that promo?

[Mister J]

Smackdown hasn't come on yet where I live, but there can't be that many Finlays around.

Fit Finlay was a wrestler in WCW. A pretty good brawler and technician. For the last few years, he's been a road agent in WWE and has helped to train a lot of the wrestlers, most notably the Divas. I've heard he was making a comeback of sorts, although I don't know why. Then again, this is WWE and I don't understand much of anything they do these days. He's gotta be near 50.

[Gameruler]

So another wrestler WWE will push to the side or pull up to the front for no reason whatsoever. Sort of like Carlito and Masters.

[DOG LIPS]

Damn, I remember Fit Finley, I hated that basteed back in the WCW days. He had a shamrock on his black tights, and half the time he just jobbed to new talent. :down

[Sabretooth]

No this guy looked much younger than Fit Finley. They're both Irish,and they're last names are the same,but this guy had buck teeth,and I don't remember Fit with buck teeth....

[The FallenAngel]

There's no way Mark Henry should be in a main event, or with Batista. Batista may not be the best performer, but he's better than Henry IMO, and he is the Champ. Henry needs to vanish, and quick. I'm already tired of that bastard.

[Eklypze]

man did yall see henry almost drop batista he could even keep him up for more than just a second

[DOG LIPS]

No this guy looked much younger than Fit Finley. They're both Irish,and they're last names are the same,but this guy had buck teeth,and I don't remember Fit with buck teeth....
Nope, it's him. :(

http://www.otherarena.com/art/head/fitfinla.jpg

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, it was kinda surprising to see Fit Finley back, particularly since he's like in his late 40s. But maybe they're bringing him back to help out some of the OVW call-ups :confused:

Or maybe they want to break Burchhill off by himself and they could team Finley and Regal up :o

[The Techno Bat]

I think WWE needs to have somebody other than Flair as IC champ, I don't care anymore just give it to someone else.

I love seeing the IC strap on Ric Flair, he is great for that division to help the other guys get over, maybe not have them win against him right now but get involved with some great feuding. (Especially with Flair's current wins over HHH) I thought for awhile there that it was going to be Flair vs Masters in a feud with the way they where going at it for awhile and the same with CCC, but as already mentioned they are past it now. So I say put Flair in a few programs with Murdoch and Conway and then have Chavo and Helms battle it out for a number 1 shot at the IC strap or something like that, basically Flair with the IC strap is great and very respectful, considering he should have been given one more World Title run, hell they gave Hogan another title run and he didn't even deserve it in my opinion!

[punishermax]

considering he should have been given one more World Title run, hell they gave Hogan another title run and he didn't even deserve it in my opinion!



The reason Hogan got that title run was because it was his return and was uber over with the crowd because of the mystique of Hogan returning one more time. Go back and watch WM X8 and see just how hot that crowd was, so Flair does not deserve and did not deserve another title run, and I'm glad Flair didn't get it, I don't think Hogan deserved the title either but why the WWE gave him a run instead of Flair was the WWE wanting to cash in which you can't blame them, where as a Flair run probably wouldn't have been all too exciting, but I could be wrong.

[The Flash!]

Did anyone know about Mark Henry? I was in shock,and this Finlay guys seems a little old IMO.

[The Flash!]

Btw,where is Ashley Massaro? I find it wierd how they make Mickie James advance when she came after Ashley.Why isnt Ashley in a main event? Training probably?

[punishermax]

Cause Mickie James has been a pro wrestler for years and not a swimsuit model looking for an easy way to make a boatload of money.

[The Flash!]

Cause Mickie James has been a pro wrestler for years and not a swimsuit model looking for an easy way to make a boatload of money.

I knew that about Mickie,but what I mean is that when will we see Ashley in action?

Other than her in Maxim. :rolleyes:

[White_Howling]

why would you want someone who can't wrestler in action.. im just waiting for her contract to run out.

man why'd they bring back mark henrey... seems like hes part of MNM now

[Eric Draven]

The reason why Henry was brought back was for the WWE to justify paying so much for his 10 year contract......which should be expiring any time now.

[Gameruler]

MMNM or MNMM? NOOOOOOOOO!! The world is coming to an end!!

MNM is lame enough as it is, except for Melina. She used to wrestle in other companies. We don't need another person in MNM, 3 is enough. :o

[The Flash!]

why would you want someone who can't wrestler in action.. im just waiting for her contract to run out.

man why'd they bring back mark henrey... seems like hes part of MNM now

Yup Melina was holding up his hand after the match so looks like it.

About Ashley,just.....nevermind.

[White_Howling]

The reason why Henry was brought back was for the WWE to justify paying so much for his 10 year contract......which should be expiring any time now.


oh so hes just making up for loss time.. thats good... i guess..

[Gameruler]

Where's he been. At home?

[Hunter Rider]

What exactly did Finlay do on SD ?
Ashley is training and hoping to avoid the hemme fate
Flair should drop the IC title clean IMO

[White_Howling]

What exactly did Finlay do on SD ?
Ashley is training and hoping to avoid the hemme fate
Flair should drop the IC title clean IMO


but hemme was going to train and she still got fired.......

Flair really needs to retire :( but thats me

[White_Howling]

oh and Finlay had a promo in smackdown.. one of those videos.. blah blah fighting irish

[NDX]

Finley gave a promo showing he's a bastard that takes **** from no one, if anyone was stupid enought to cause it. It was a short, 20 - 30 second spot. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing if Finlay still has it in the ring or not.

Mark Henry has been doing promotional spots for the WWE along with Chris Nowinski, such as their voter registration campaigns. If this was 5 -6 years ago, I wouldn't have minded seeing Henry make a return. But now it is rather pointless as the big men in the company only become eventual fodder to whoever is the flavor of the month. He looks to have dropped some weight, maybe he can finally go 3 months without a career shortening injury this go around.

I just read that Sonny Siaki (Mini Rock, as he has been dubbed by my friends) has been signed to a deal with the WWE (a choice influenced by Dusty Rhodes). It is unknown if he will be debuting on a program or being send down to their territory to develop (a la Kid Kash was).

[The FallenAngel]

but hemme was going to train and she still got fired.......

Flair really needs to retire :( but thats meWell, don't forget that apparently Hemme was excited to be touring with Batista and HHH so Steph threw a hissy fit and BAM, Christy is gone. I don't get that. :confused: Also, I agree Flair should retire soon, but put over guys like Helms and Chavo, even Conway and Murdoch, before he does.

[Hunter Rider]

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/898/virgil3nm7js.jpg

[Super_Ludacris]

Poor Virgil.

I still remember when he broke away from Ted Dibiase. You know your career sucks when the only title you won is the Million Dollar Belt

[The FallenAngel]

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/898/virgil3nm7js.jpgHaha, wow, that sucks.

[Mister J]

Well, don't forget that apparently Hemme was excited to be touring with Batista and HHH so Steph threw a hissy fit and BAM, Christy is gone. I don't get that. :confused: Also, I agree Flair should retire soon, but put over guys like Helms and Chavo, even Conway and Murdoch, before he does.

There's info floating around that says Christy didn't want to take a pay cut from the 250K she was making from the Diva promo deal and that caused the release...at least in part.

Anybody else hear Murdoch is going to be in a homosexual angle ala Brokeback Mountain? That's just brilliant, McMahon.:rolleyes:

That Virgil/Vince picture is funny as hell.

[The FallenAngel]

There's info floating around that says Christy didn't want to take a pay cut from the 250K she was making from the Diva promo deal and that caused the release...at least in part.

Anybody else Murdoch is going to be in a homosexual angle ala Brokeback Mountain? That's just brilliant, McMahon.:rolleyes:

That Virgil/Vince picture is funny as hell.I heard about that money issue as well. All the rumours floating around her release are believeable. Where did you hear about that homosexual angle with Murdoch? I seriously hope that doesn't happen. McMahon is really losing it.

[Mister J]

Where did you hear about that homosexual angle with Murdoch? I seriously hope that doesn't happen. McMahon is really losing it.

3 Big Names Returning To WWE?, Murdoch's Gimmick, More
By Ryan Clark (webmaster@prowrestlingscoops.com)

12/29/2005 - Partial Source: The Observer
Trevor Murdoch seems to be tweaking his gimmick a little bit. On WWE Unlimited this past Monday, Trevor Murdoch gave his review on the 2005 movie, "Brokeback Mountain." Murdoch states that the movie is about two cowboys who fall in love .... with each other. Murdoch says that the movie really "hit close to home." He talks about spending quality time with his friend Larry out in the country and how his friend Larry "starts to look a little sweet." Murdoch says that he's tired of people judging him and the movie. What Murdoch seems to be implying in this subliminal message is that he's a homosexual.

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/newsarticle.php?page=137879418

[The FallenAngel]

...Oh god. What the hell is wrong with Vince?

[tamron]

Anybody else hear Murdoch is going to be in a homosexual angle ala Brokeback Mountain? That's just brilliant, McMahon.:rolleyes:

Murdoch has been suspect since his debut. His first vignette he said he liked to make 'men squeal like pigs' and he's clearly got a Deliverance kind of thing going on. I think this is where the gimmick was naturally headed. Not that I really care about him, he's a waste of space.

[Sabretooth]

He's actually a really good worker,he's alot better than Cade. But ugh,why this gimmick? He should be IC champ right now. :(

[The FallenAngel]

Has anyone seen Velocity yet? I saw Paul Burchill's match, and I gotta say, that guy is very impressive.

[Eklypze]

Burchill is awesome man he doesnt belong in the wwe at all i was talking about this like a while ago on here he is a great wrestler and wwe does nothing but downplay his abilities

[Eric Draven]

Wasn't this the match in which Burchill did that crazy-ass Canadian Destroyer-type finisher? :confused:

[The FallenAngel]

It was friggin awesome man. He grabbed the guy in a rock bottom position, and backflipped, slamming the guy down. It was amazing.

[Eklypze]

the move is called the c4 i was talkking about it on here like a month or 2 ago its a great move i cant believe that WWE is letting him do it they werent going to let him do it at first Burchill is indeed a great wrestler i really do hope he gets the push he deserves in WWE heres a link to some footage of some of his old stuff from over in England
FWA Online Plus (http://www.fwaonlineplus.com/free.html?PHPSESSID=5f3eb9c4d16c9a8081463a0587bb99 e3#burchill)

[Hunter Rider]

ermmmmmmmm............ok:confused:

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/3500/kurtlessnar7lz8qu.gif

[Hunter Rider]

Here's Brock doing the shooting star press in OVW as was talked about a few weeks ago

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4338/ug0353ed2xs.gif

[Twitch]

ermmmmmmmm............ok:confused:

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/3500/kurtlessnar7lz8qu.gif

omg laul

[LastSunrise1981]

I heard about that money issue as well. All the rumours floating around her release are believeable. Where did you hear about that homosexual angle with Murdoch? I seriously hope that doesn't happen. McMahon is really losing it.

Vince, no one is really offended by homosexuality anymore. It was funny when Goldust did it, it was funny when HHH and Foley made fun of Angle being gay. But guess what? It's not funny anymore and it's gotten quite old really.

You want to do something awesome and original? How about concentrating on wrestling, less soap opera storylines, and less shock appeals where you're ALWAYS trying to create some controversy.

Not even girls are turned on by homosexual men, so what makes you think people will want to see Murdoch and another man in love? :mad: :o

[The FallenAngel]

ermmmmmmmm............ok:confused:

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/3500/kurtlessnar7lz8qu.gifWha the hell??? :confused:

[The FallenAngel]

Here's Brock doing the shooting star press in OVW as was talked about a few weeks ago

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4338/ug0353ed2xs.gifThat's awesome. He is a really good wrestler, just needs to grow up, and act more mature.

[The FallenAngel]

Vince, no one is really offended by homosexuality anymore. It was funny when Goldust did it, it was funny when HHH and Foley made fun of Angle being gay. But guess what? It's not funny anymore and it's gotten quite old really.

You want to do something awesome and original? How about concentrating on wrestling, less soap opera storylines, and less shock appeals where you're ALWAYS trying to create some controversy.

Not even girls are turned on by homosexual men, so what makes you think people will want to see Murdoch and another man in love? :mad: :o Well put. It is, after all, a wrestling show. No one really cares about the drama crap, and no one is shocked by anything he does anymore.

[Hunter Rider]

WM22-HBK vs Shane Mcmahon~ Ladder match with Shawn's contract hanging above the ring

[The FallenAngel]

WM22-HBK vs Shane Mcmahon~ Ladder match with Shawn's contract hanging above the ringYou serious? Where'd you hear that?

[Sabretooth]

You serious? Where'd you hear that?
I'm pretty sure he's joking about when Vince said he'll screw Shawn.:o

Hey,it could happen. Shane could superkick Shawn,go for the pin,Shawn kicks out,and then Vince tells the ref to ring the bell. And BAM! Chicago Screwjob! :D

[The Ghoul]

that would be the ****... the match. shane is pretty good high spot guy

[The FallenAngel]

It would be very interesting to see. Shane does do some pretty cool stuff sometimes.

[The Ghoul]

like the hardcore match with steve blackman at summerslam when he took that sick bump off of the entrance stage.

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah I remember that. Good stuff. Do you remember when he missed that 40 foot elbow drop when he was feuding with Kane? It was awesome.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah i was just fanatasy booking:(
I downloaded Funk vs Cactus-95 KOTDM final today with the exploding barbwire boards and all that crazy ****http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[The FallenAngel]

Nice. Where'd you download that from?

[Hunter Rider]

Nice. Where'd you download that from?
I got it from the OWMF board,if enough of you are interested i'll re-host it and put a link in here for you guys to DL it



BTW Vile i also got Punks OVW tv title win:up:

[NDX]

Yeah i was just fanatasy booking:(
I downloaded Funk vs Cactus-95 KOTDM final today with the exploding barbwire boards and all that crazy ****http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

You should see the whole event. It's a consistant buildup of violence leading to that amazing final match between Funk and Cactus Jack. I remember seeing Terry Gordy stomping his opponent's head, who I believe belonged to Cactus Jack, into thumbtacks post match because he lost.

It is truely a sick event not for the weak at heart. I may not enjoy hardcore like I used to, but goddamn that is still one of my all time favorite matches.

[The FallenAngel]

Sounds brutal...I must see it! :o

[TheVileOne]

I got it from the OWMF board,if enough of you are interested i'll re-host it and put a link in here for you guys to DL it



BTW Vile i also got Punks OVW tv title win:up:

Sadly its OVW. When Punk should be on Smackdown.

[NDX]

Punk should be in TNA at this point, the way they abused him.

If anyone really enjoys electrified barbwire death matches they should check out the wrestler Atsushi Onita. He was essentially the king of these style matches. I have a few on tape that are just unbelievable, including a match with Hyabusa in an exploding electrified barbwire cage match.

http://www.onita.co.jp/ His site, albeit in Japanese.

[Hunter Rider]

Punk should be in TNA at this point, the way they abused him.

If anyone really enjoys electrified barbwire death matches they should check out the wrestler Atsushi Onita. He was essentially the king of these style matches. I have a few on tape that are just unbelievable, including a match with Hyabusa in an exploding electrified barbwire cage match.

http://www.onita.co.jp/ His site, albeit in Japanese.

Damn it thats the match im after,do you know where it can be downloaded ?
Ive seen Onita vs Funk in an electrified barbwire match and it was insane

[NDX]

Damn it thats the match im after,do you know where it can be downloaded ?
Ive seen Onita vs Funk in an electrified barbwire match and it was insane

Nah, unfortunatley (not like I can download it on dialup anyway). I have it on a best of Hayabusa tape I picked up when working for RF video 5 years ago (goddamn, it's been 5 years already, ****...).

I've never seen Onita v. Funk. That would just be great to finally see two legends go at it. How large a file is it?

[Hunter Rider]

Nah, unfortunatley (not like I can download it on dialup anyway). I have it on a best of Hayabusa tape I picked up when working for RF video 5 years ago (goddamn, it's been 5 years already, ****...).

I've never seen Onita v. Funk. That would just be great to finally see two legends go at it. How large a file is it?

the file is 66.9MB

[Eklypze]

man that hayabusa onita electrified barbedwire cage match is awesome i have it on a best of onita tape its a really great match i also have a best of big japan tape that has some really insane stuff on it they have bug zappers and dry ice and cacti and just all kinds of crazy **** you never see here in the states

[NDX]

the file is 66.9MB

Well, there goes asking you for that file.

man that hayabusa onita electrified barbedwire cage match is awesome i have it on a best of onita tape its a really great match i also have a best of big japan tape that has some really insane stuff on it they have bug zappers and dry ice and cacti and just all kinds of crazy **** you never see here in the states

After seeing some of those matchs I'm glad they aren't done stateside. Some of it just gets to the point of being bad. Especially the fishtank filled with piranhas.

[TheVileOne]

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=Jz46dHxK_Do

The New Age Outlaws shoot on HHH. Warning, a TON of f-bombs and curse words.

[NDX]

BG James (that is hard tp say) is wearing a UXW t-shirt. This makes me wonder if this is a RF Video shoot interview (if so, I need to get it at the next UXW show I'm going to).

This might have been recorded in the back of the last UXW show in November. Wouldn't be the first time RF or Sabbath recorded a shoot during a wrestling event.

[Hunter Rider]

Well, there goes asking you for that file.

.

could you not use a download accelerator ? that way you can download some of it and then pause the download at the end of each session and just restart from where you left off each time your on

[NDX]

Unfortunately, I'm usually downloading other things (artwork or classwork related) that prevents me to dedicating multiple days to downloading a file of that size. As important as wrestling is in my life, it is a secondary priority behind art and class.

[Hunter Rider]

Unfortunately, I'm usually downloading other things (artwork or classwork related) that prevents me to dedicating multiple days to downloading a file of that size. As important as wrestling is in my life, it is a secondary priority behind art and class.

I understand,let me know if you get DSL or come up with a way to DL it and i will set the match up for you:up:

[NDX]

I understand,let me know if you get DSL or come up with a way to DL it and i will set the match up for you:up:

Thanks. I'm going to ask a friend to see if he's willing to download it, knowing the wrestling fan he is, and he's always up to a good bloodbath. He has a good high speed connection.

On a side note, did anyone else hear about the false rumors of Jim Duggan's death? I only read about it last night that a few weeks back someone poster false reports of Jim Duggan's death.


Edit: I just found the only redeeming thing about the movie Life With Mikey, Jerry "The King" Lawler (albeit masked) beats Jeff Jarrett, with a simple scoop slam. If only that happened normally.

[The FallenAngel]

Well, there goes asking you for that file.



After seeing some of those matchs I'm glad they aren't done stateside. Some of it just gets to the point of being bad. Especially the fishtank filled with piranhas.That's some sick ****.

[Eklypze]

yeah man it really is some sick **** it really is i mean with some of the stuff they do it just gets kinda dumb and when they do alot of that crazy stuff they hardly ever look good doing it i mean when it comes to hardcore stuff ill just stick to the basics like thumbtacks and barbwire and all the regular stuff when you get into all the crazy stuff they do over there it ends up just looking dumb

[Eric Draven]

the move is called the c4 i was talkking about it on here like a month or 2 ago its a great move i cant believe that WWE is letting him do it they werent going to let him do it at first Burchill is indeed a great wrestler i really do hope he gets the push he deserves in WWE heres a link to some footage of some of his old stuff from over in England
FWA Online Plus (http://www.fwaonlineplus.com/free.html?PHPSESSID=5f3eb9c4d16c9a8081463a0587bb99 e3#burchill)

The problem with that move is could he really do it against someone like Batista?

It's a good thing the majority of the SD wrestlers are a bit smaller than Raw wrestlers because I could see Rey selling the hell out of that move....

[Eklypze]

i got a CZW dvd for christmas and this dvd was the first thing of CZW ive ever seen besides the infamous flaming pyramid of tables and i gotta say CZW is some really good stuff some of the moves these guys do are really amzing and the stuff they come up with is great like stacking the chairs and stuff im really liking this im going to have to check into some more dvds

[The Techno Bat]

The reason Hogan got that title run was because it was his return and was uber over with the crowd because of the mystique of Hogan returning one more time. Go back and watch WM X8 and see just how hot that crowd was, so Flair does not deserve and did not deserve another title run, and I'm glad Flair didn't get it, I don't think Hogan deserved the title either but why the WWE gave him a run instead of Flair was the WWE wanting to cash in which you can't blame them, where as a Flair run probably wouldn't have been all too exciting, but I could be wrong.

Oh I am not saying that what the WWE did with Hogan wasn't smart because it was super smart for them to put the strap on Hogan seeing how hot he was at the time. And his match at WM18 with The Rock was pretty good, not as good as Flair's match at WM 18 against The Undertaker, Flair almost beat Taker that night, but the whole lure of Taker's undefeated streak wouldn't allow it and all.

All I am saying is that Flair gets a great pop wherever he is, the WoOoOoOo's fill the arena when he steps out, and does his chops. He is better than half the guys on the Raw roster, is one of the best guys on the microphone, and his recent feud with HHH showed he can still carry a match, and hang with the main eventers. I just think that where Hogan was given the strap one last time, that Flair, sure probably not as Hot as Hogan was should be allowed one last world title run, he has done alot for the WWE and has jobbed when asked, without putting up a fuss, like Hogan does. Remember Flair actually jobbed to Rico, and makes the younger guys he wrestles look really good.

I respect your opinion and think you make some great points.... Happy New Year

[The FallenAngel]

I agree with you. I wouldn't mind seeing him with the belt one more time. He has done alot for the company and that would be a nice thing to happen. I don't, however, agree with the whole Hogan thing. I think he is an egotistical jackass, and should never have gotten the title, or even beaten HBK at Summerslam. But Flair definitely deserves a title run one more time.

[NDX]

i got a CZW dvd for christmas and this dvd was the first thing of CZW ive ever seen besides the infamous flaming pyramid of tables and i gotta say CZW is some really good stuff some of the moves these guys do are really amzing and the stuff they come up with is great like stacking the chairs and stuff im really liking this im going to have to check into some more dvds
I have some early Combat Zone Wrestling tapes from 5 years ago, and I remember them using flourescent lightbulbs, barbed wire, fire, etc. It was some disgusting bloodfests. I enjoyed it back then, but now I can barely watch the videos without getting bored. Although if I could find a recent CZW dvd at a reasonable price, I'd pick it up to see how they've progressed.

I highly doubt that Flair will win the WHC title one more time (as much as I would like to see it), and I think that winning and holding the IC title is essentially his last chance at a singles title. As they said, this was a triumph for him since this was the only current title he has never held, making his victory for the title all that more important. I think this is his last hurrah, to put it, before he finally hangs his boots up for good.

[NDX]

Just some random news updates. The last of the updates I feel has the most significance.

- Vince McMahon nixed the idea of WWE wrestlers appearing at the 12/16 Eddy Guerrero tribute show in Tijuana, implying the company would do something instead.

- In regards to WWE introducing the "storyline" firing of Eric Bischoff as the General Manager of RAW, Bischoff was told by WWE management that he was not in trouble and that he didn't do anything wrong. According to reports, Bischoff was not made aware of any big "master plan" of his status on WWE TV. All he was told was that both Vince and Stephanie McMahon were happy with his performances. Bischoff is still under contract (earning around $200,000 a year), but it is possible the company may not renew his deal.

- Mike Johnson reports today that WWE has signed Dalip "Giant" Singh. He is a 7"3' native of India who was trained by the All Pro Wrestling school in California. Singh appeared in an Adam Sandler remake of "The Longest Yard" playing a gigantic inmate named Turley who played for Sandler's football team.

[Hunter Rider]

- Mike Johnson reports today that WWE has signed Dalip "Giant" Singh. He is a 7"3' native of India who was trained by the All Pro Wrestling school in California. Singh appeared in an Adam Sandler remake of "The Longest Yard" playing a gigantic inmate named Turley who played for Sandler's football team.

Oh wonderful:rolleyes:

[The FallenAngel]

Oh...that guy. Vince...what the hell is wrong with you?

[Mister J]

Vince loves the big guys. It's a shame that his thinking hasn't evolved more. Obviously, he's had great success. However, sometimes you need to switch it up. I'm surprised he's allowed Rey to have the success he's had.

[The FallenAngel]

Whatever they do with this guy, I hope he stays some sort of silent monster. He can barely speak English, as from what I've heard of him. The silent monster thing can work if done right. I mean, the guy is bigger than Big Show.

[Mister J]

Whatever they do with this guy, I hope he stays some sort of silent monster. He can barely speak English, as from what I've heard of him. The silent monster thing can work if done right. I mean, the guy is bigger than Big Show.

God, I wonder who he'll feud with if (big if) he ever gets on the show. :rolleyes:

Lemme guess, Show will be in a match about to win the title, the ref gets knocked out and Big Giant Barely Speaks English Guy will appear and cost Show the match.

[The FallenAngel]

God, I wonder who he'll feud with if (big if) he ever gets on the show. Lemme guess, Show will be in a match about to win the title, the ref gets knocked out and Big Giant Barely Speaks English Guy will appear and cost Show the match.Sounds about right. I'm guessing he will F-5 Show as well. Since that's all the bigger guys seem to be able to do to him. (Lesnar, Matt Morgan)

[Mister J]

Geez, I forgot about the whole Matt Morgan experiment. Wait, I mean "the M-M-M-Matt M-Mor-Mor-Morgan Experi-m-m-ment". Oh, that sucked.

[The FallenAngel]

Hahaha. Awesome. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

This signing is stupid,the guy actually killed someone in training and has hurt several opponents that he has worked with

Here's spme intelligent signing news

FORMER WWE STAR EXPECTED TO RETURN
by Mike Johnson @ 12:00:00 PM on 1/2/2006

The word going around is that Charlie Haas has signed a new WWE deal and may return as soon as tonight's TV taping in East Rutherford, New Jersey to the Raw brand. There had been rumors of Haas' return floating around for several weeks, which had been shot down by sources PWInsider.com had spoken to as late as last week. As it turns out, those sources were wrong and I apologize for last week's error.

Haas and his wife Jackie Gayda were both released from WWE on 7/6/05. Gayda later signed with TNA.

In an interview in July 2005 with WrestlingWeekly.com, Haas stated he wouldn't return to the company even if he was invited back, saying if he ever went back, he wanted it to "be under his own terms." Haas had been working regularly for Jersey All Pro Wrestling (where he first broke in as a tag team with his late brother Russ) since his WWE departure.

Haas had been openly vocal against WWE writer Dave Lagana, who heads up the Smackdown side after this release, which may explain why he's being brought to Raw. It's possible Haas could be used as part of Shelton Benjamin's new storyline, but that isn't confirmed.

SOURCE: http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=15338&p=1 (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=15338&p=1)

[The FallenAngel]

Now that's a good signing right there. They better do something good with him this time. But, it does seem a little odd having his wife at TNA. Why didn't he go there?

[Hunter Rider]

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1930/020je.jpg

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4476/silvasinghchono5lw.jpg

[Mister J]

Now that's a good signing right there. They better do something good with him this time. But, it does seem a little odd having his wife at TNA. Why didn't he go there?

This just seems like WWe signing him so TNA doesn't get him. I doubt they'll do anything with him.

[The FallenAngel]

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1930/020je.jpg

http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4476/silvasinghchono5lw.jpg...:eek: Holy crap. Vince is most likely gonna push this guy.

[The FallenAngel]

This just seems like WWe signing him so TNA doesn't get him. I doubt they'll do anything with him.You're most likely right about that. I just wish Haas thought about this before he signed.

[Mister J]

I hate that they broke up Haas and Benjamin. Then they stuck Charlie in that stupid Dawn Marie-Jackie triangle crap. Now they want him back, ostensibly because someone else dared showed interest. I should really get into TNA.

Of course, I've said I'm done with WWE numerous times before and it never holds. I do hope TNA can become a viable threat so WWE feels it and ups the product.

[The Techno Bat]

...:eek: Holy crap. Vince is most likely gonna push this guy.


I hope he is not another El Gigante, remember what a bust he was?

[The FallenAngel]

I hope he is not another El Gigante, remember what a bust he was?Heh, yeah I remember. I hope they don't try to rehash old ideas with these new guys they bring in.

[The FallenAngel]

I hate that they broke up Haas and Benjamin. Then they stuck Charlie in that stupid Dawn Marie-Jackie triangle crap. Now they want him back, ostensibly because someone else dared showed interest. I should really get into TNA.

Of course, I've said I'm done with WWE numerous times before and it never holds. I do hope TNA can become a viable threat so WWE feels it and ups the product.Haas/Benjamin was a great team. When they bring Haas in, they should pair those two up as a heel tag team, or have them feud. They work great together. But considering the current state their tag division is in, a team would be the better choice.

[Hunter Rider]

Taker mat be looking at his WM22 oponent

[Sarge 2.0]

Taker mat be looking at his WM22 oponentBased on this guys past record of opponents, Taker may also be looking at a broken neck. :o

[The FallenAngel]

Based on this guys past record of opponents, Taker may also be looking at a broken neck. :oGood point. Considering that past, why would they even sign him, and put him in a ring? Vince is such a dick. He just can't give up the big guys though. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, who else is excited for Shelton's mama tonight? Hehe.

[Hunter Rider]

Based on this guys past record of opponents, Taker may also be looking at a broken neck. :o

yep:(

From Mike Johnson at Pwinsider.com:

While training at the All Pro Wrestling school in May 2001, Singh was linked to the death of 24 year-old wrestling student Brian Ong. According to a January 2004 East Bay Express article, Ong (who had previously suffered a concussion but yet continued training) was powerbombed by Singh. Ong took the bump wrong, landing on his tailbone with his head hitting the mat backwards due to the whiplash effect of the bump. The trainers didn't realize how badly Ong, who told them he was dizzy, was hurt until he got on all fours, vomited, and collapsed. They called 911. Ong passed away while being transported to the hospital via ambulance. The official cause of death was acute and subdural hemorrhage due to head trauma. Ong's family sued APW for his death, receiving a $1.34 million ruling against the school and its owner, Roland Alexander. Singh did not testify during the trial and was not implicated legally in Ong's passing. For more on that case, click here (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=11602&p=1).

[Mister J]

Haas/Benjamin was a great team. When they bring Haas in, they should pair those two up as a heel tag team, or have them feud. They work great together. But considering the current state their tag division is in, a team would be the better choice.

The tag team division is a joke. Mostly, it's just guys who either have yet to get over (MNM, Cade/Murdoch)thrown together or two guys who are established that WWE has nothing better for (Batista/Rey, Kane/Big Show).

[Mister J]

I hope he is not another El Gigante, remember what a bust he was?

Remember what his ring gear looked like. The airbrushed physique. :rolleyes:

Although I think he was only El Gigante in WCW. By his glorious run in (then) WWF, he was....THE GIANT GONZALES.

Simple mortals. Cower in fear at the feet of The Giant Gonzales!!!

[The FallenAngel]

Remember what his ring gear looked like. The airbrushed physique. :rolleyes:

Although I think he was only El Gigante in WCW. By his glorious run in (then) WWF, he was....THE GIANT GONZALES.

Simple mortals. Cower in fear at the feet of The Giant Gonzales!!!He should have been Champ! ...:o

[White_Howling]

why did he wear that suit any way. did he have some kind of skin disease?

[Sabretooth]

Rejoice! My dream feud of Haas vs. Shelton may yet happen!:mad: :up:

And I'm worried about this Singh. We already lost one of the greats,please,don't sign this guy.:(

[Sabretooth]

I just heard an interesting (yet disgusting) idea for Boogeyman's feud with JBL:

What if somewhere down the line,Boogeyman eats that thing on Jillian Hall's face? :(

[TheVileOne]

I'm saddened that Haas is ultimately going back to WWE. Especially after what they did to him. Look at what they did to Matt Hardy. Going back to the WWE was one of the stupidest things he's ever done.

[Sarge 2.0]

I agree on the Matt thing, but for a while it looked like they were actually doing something with him...tagging with Rey and having Orton call him out...all of it was dropped because of Eddies death and the events of Survivor Series. The whole thing is geniunely saddening.

[The FallenAngel]

I just heard an interesting (yet disgusting) idea for Boogeyman's feud with JBL:

What if somewhere down the line,Boogeyman eats that thing on Jillian Hall's face? :(I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That's just horrible.

[Sabretooth]

I'm saddened that Haas is ultimately going back to WWE. Especially after what they did to him. Look at what they did to Matt Hardy. Going back to the WWE was one of the stupidest things he's ever done.
You've gotta admit though,his return was initially suprising.Sure it got old after the second week,but I never would have thought he'd come back.

He teased about going to TNA and I honestly wish he did. Maybe then he could make up for Jeff's suckiness and feud with AMW,then Jeff possibly turning heel on Matt. He could've very easily been the #1 face.

[The FallenAngel]

I agree on the Matt thing, but for a while it looked like they were actually doing something with him...tagging with Rey and having Orton call him out...all of it was dropped because of Eddies death and the events of Survivor Series. The whole thing is geniunely saddening. I agree as well. He should've stayed at ROH, or signed with TNA. I would've liked to have seen the Hardy Boyz reformed.

[TheVileOne]

EDIT

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[TheVileOne]

You've gotta admit though,his return was initially suprising.Sure it got old after the second week,but I never would have thought he'd come back.

To me it was disappointing because "Oh great he's back in WWE and they are going to make him look like a schmuck. They still aren't going to elevate him." Lo and behold that's what happened. And now he's in the dog house because he didn't want to get chokeslammed by Taker.


He teased about going to TNA and I honestly wish he did. Maybe then he could make up for Jeff's suckiness and feud with AMW,then Jeff possibly turning heel on Matt. He could've very easily been the #1 face.

I think he should've signed with TNA and the indies as well. TNA could've capitalized on all the huge pops he was getting at events that he wasn't even attending.

[Sarge 2.0]

To me it was disappointing because "Oh great he's back in WWE and they are going to make him look like a schmuck. They still aren't going to elevate him." Lo and behold that's what happened. And now he's in the dog house because he didn't want to get chokeslammed by Taker.

He teased about going to TNA and I honestly wish he did. Maybe then he could make up for Jeff's suckiness and feud with AMW,then Jeff possibly turning heel on Matt. He could've very easily been the #1 face.[/quote]I don't tthink not getting the chokeslam was what got him punished. I think the sudden shock Eddies death and the change of plans that it caused was what got him in "the dog house". It's because they refused to make angles for him, or build existing ones around him.

[The FallenAngel]

I don't tthink not getting the chokeslam was what got him punished. I think the sudden shock Eddies death and the change of plans that it caused was what got him in "the dog house". It's because they refused to make angles for him, or build existing ones around him.They were going to give him so good angles with Rey and Orton. Eddies death and Survivor Series did play alot in that, but his refusal to get chokeslammed played a bit of a part in it as well. He went against what was supposed to happen and that upset everyone.

[The_Mystery]

Anyone else on here think that Shelton is getting buried? With all his losing and this new "mama" storyline, he'll be frequenting Heat in a month.

[The FallenAngel]

Anyone else on here think that Shelton is getting buried? With all his losing and this new "mama" storyline, he'll be frequenting Heat in a month.I'm pretty sure that's where his carrer is going.

[The_Mystery]

That really sucks consider all the raw talent that Benjamin has while other wrestlers with limited moves get pushed to the front of the line.

[The FallenAngel]

That really sucks consider all the raw talent that Benjamin has while other wrestlers with limited moves get pushed to the front of the line.He's one of the best performers on either roster. It's a shame that he is made to job to the crappier guys.

[Hunter Rider]

Matt Hardy is where he belongs,he's a semi talented charisma free worker that is getting a nice check for an easy ride

Haas made the smart move of going with the company that has insurance and will still definitely be around in a years time,he sucked in japan and they didn't like him,he isn't very charismatic and i doubt TNA would have pushed him in the ME either.

Im as much of a fan of great wrestling as anyone here but sometimes you just have to accept that guys make desicions based on the reality of what sells to the mainstream

[punishermax]

Matt Hardy is where he belongs,he's a semi talented charisma free worker that is getting a nice check for an easy ride

Haas made the smart move of going with the company that has insurance and will still definitely be around in a years time,he sucked in japan and they didn't like him,he isn't very charismatic and i doubt TNA would have pushed him in the ME either.

Im as much of a fan of great wrestling as anyone here but sometimes you just have to accept that guys make desicions based on the reality of what sells to the mainstream

Thank you for saying what others are scared of saying.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm saddened that Haas is ultimately going back to WWE. Especially after what they did to him. Look at what they did to Matt Hardy. Going back to the WWE was one of the stupidest things he's ever done.

I miss Team Angle :(

[Mister J]

Team Angle rocked.

[Colossal Spoons]

That was the last time Haas was useful, Shelton brought his A game EVERY NIGHT and Angle wasnt' super-angsty.

[Mister J]

Stables just don't hold in wrestling anymore.

[Colossal Spoons]

A shame too, cuz tag teams are a bore right now.

[Mister J]

Its like if you're in a tag now, they just have nothing for you.

[Colossal Spoons]

THEA!!

That's Mama Benjamin lol

[NDX]

Now if Cena only bled more often.

Perhaps Shelton's mama will help him out. I've never liked his mic work or his promos (except for the Monday Night Football Spoof a few years back), so this might work out for him. Or completely kill his career.

[Colossal Spoons]

I see a nice winning streak and severe attitude adjustment in store for Shelton. It's just gonna be lessened by having his mama there; although she'll be the cause of them both. Double edge-sword.

[LastSunrise1981]

Wow, is it me or is Cena getting booed more and more? I heard quite a few Angle chants during the match and Cena got booed when he gave Shawn the F-U.

Hey WWE, you might want to turn Cena heel or take the belt off of him.

[Sarge 2.0]

His rap on Carlito, Masters, and Angle was pretty good, I'll give him that.

[TheVileOne]

The crowd was totally crapping on RAW tonight. WWE is clearly out of touch with their fans.

[kane9321]

bleed cena bleed

[Eric Draven]

Wow, is it me or is Cena getting booed more and more? I heard quite a few Angle chants during the match and Cena got booed when he gave Shawn the F-U.

Hey WWE, you might want to turn Cena heel or take the belt off of him.

Yeah, Cena got booed to hell tonight, no matter what Angle did. Seriously, they could've had Angle rip into the crowd, burn an American flag, and then renounce his US citizenship and Cena would've still been booed.

I can see why the WWE is hesitant to turn Cena heel because Cena is currently their "star". But honestly, Cena will be much, much better off in the long run with a turn.

Hell, could this match have been another version of Hart-Austin? Where a double turn may've happened?

[Mister J]

He's getting booed because he's had too much exposure over the last few months. Everything leading up to his WM win was cool, but after that, it all has been a bit much.

As far as turning him heel, I think it's coming. WWE has caved in recent memory when somebody's starts booing their supposed good guy. They turn them heel quick. I think this whole McMahon screwing Shawn thing will just lead into it. I just hope McMahon doesn't call for the bell when Cena has Michaels in the Sharpshooter at WM.

[Eric Draven]

Not just too much exposure. Also, they've turned Cena's character around into something the fans don't even care about anymore. The reason why Cena was cheered for in the beginning (and what necessitated a face turn) was his intensity and his rapping. Both of those kind of got fazed out as he got more popular. Plus, the continuous sucking up of the fans isn't helping things out as well.....

[White_Howling]

what are they doing with King.. they do not need to give him a ppv match.. wwe is really fadding

[kane9321]

i hope to see mickie james appear in the shower with trish...oh boy

[kane9321]

here we go again ...starting off new years raw with my victoria getting beat
by a nobody.:( .What in the hell is wrong with the wwe.

[TheVileOne]

Cena also can't carry a match to save his life.

His offense is pitiful.

[Mister J]

The crowd booing Cena was overwhelming tonight. I think the best thing would be for him to lose Sunday, and try to find whatever the crowd liked in him before. His ringwork isn't that great and if he doesn't have crowd support, it's useless to have him as a face.

Of course, that's just logic and won't stop WWE.

[PyroChamber]

THEA!!

That's Mama Benjamin lolI thought I'd be the only one to know who that was. I turned back to RAW and I said to myself "is that Thea?".

A shame too, cuz tag teams are a bore right now.

I wonder how long it'll be before they decide to break up MNM and make Melina a solo diva?

Speaking of divas, 1) Could they please stop giving Lita the mic? Just her voice alone irritates me, like she's been smoking for the last few years. And 2) Who do you think will turn at New Years Revolution, Trish or Mickie?

[White_Howling]

i hope its trish.. shes much better as a heel

[kane9321]

Shelton's mom angle..this is sad,why is the wwe making shelton lose to crap wrestlers like carlito and masters.when shelton has more talent those any of those two clowns.Something isnt right.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, his mom coming into the picture is gonna signify the start af a winning streak, you'll see.

[TheVileOne]

Or maybe its just totally counter-productive to Shelton and doesn't play to his strengths at all.

Shelton quite frankly had two of the best matches on RAW this year alone with HBK (after Backlash) and Kurt Angle (after Summerslam). They had amazing heat and crowd reaction and it had nothing to do with this ridiculous character, which WWE is only doing because of that crappy Big Momma's House sequel.

[Colossal Spoons]

I never even thought of the correlation between Mama Benjamin and Martin's new movie. Damn, Vince is such a whore lol.

[Mister J]

Sad state in WWE. I actually caught some TNA last night. Don't know if it was a repeat or what, but it was refreshing to not see the crap that WWE makes its talented wrestlers do.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, I dunno about that. If The Truth doesn't stop dancing, I'm gonna shoot somebody.

[Mister J]

I tuned in late and must have missed that part. Everything I caught was Christian and Mike Tenay having a hard-on for Sting and Slapnuts Jarrett running his mouth. But if Truth's dancing is anything like his rapping from his K-Kwik days, I'm glad I missed it.

[Colossal Spoons]

I missed it last night too. Truth's been dancing since he was K-Kwik and it's gettin old lol. Gosh, don't get me started on his rapping.....gettin' rowdy. :down:

[Mister J]

Gettin' Rowdy...

'I be the rash
On ya' ass
Hollerin' sufferin' succotash' :o

[Colossal Spoons]

Are Edge and Christian brothers in real life?

[3dman27]

i don't think so that was just part of their original wwf-wwe storyline with the brood

[Colossal Spoons]

Thought so, thanx.

[3dman27]

you're welcome

[Sarge 2.0]

Are Edge and Christian brothers in real life?No, but they are best friends. They dropped the brother angle a while ago as far as I know, but at one point Christian and Edge were almost identical. This was during their Edge and Christian tag team days.

[Colossal Spoons]

The 10 second pose was the highlight of RAW for me.

[Sarge 2.0]

It's my dream that TNA would have a TLC reunion, since they already have the Dudleys, one half of Edge and Christian, and one half of the Hardy Boyz. It won't happen in a million years because they won't get Edge or Matt, but that's what SvR 2k6 is for. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

It's my dream that TNA would have a TLC reunion, since they already have the Dudleys, one half of Edge and Christian, and one half of the Hardy Boyz. It won't happen in a million years because they won't get Edge or Matt, but that's what SvR 2k6 is for. :up:That would be the one of the greatest things ever.

[Colossal Spoons]

It's my dream that TNA would have a TLC reunion, since they already have the Dudleys, one half of Edge and Christian, and one half of the Hardy Boyz. It won't happen in a million years because they won't get Edge or Matt, but that's what SvR 2k6 is for. :up:

Playing right now, why is HHH insanely hard?

[The FallenAngel]

Playing right now, why is HHH insanely hard?I didn't notice that. Although I haven't played against him that much, I usually play as him. Taker can get annoying at times, because when you hit him and knock him down, he just keeps sitting up.

[Sarge 2.0]

Playing right now, why is HHH insanely hard?Depends on who you play as...with Taker I made short work of him, as Chris Benoit it was a challenge, and with my created characters it was moderate.

[The_Mystery]

I hate the WWE for what they are doing to Shelton Benjamin. Mama?! Seriously, they wouldn't do something so stupid to Triple H.

[The FallenAngel]

I hate the WWE for what they are doing to Shelton Benjamin. Mama?! Seriously, they wouldn't do something so stupid to Triple H.That's because he is married to Stephanie.

[The FallenAngel]

Depends on who you play as...with Taker I made short work of him, as Chris Benoit it was a challenge, and with my created characters it was moderate.It should be very easy with your created characters. You know you max them out. :o

[TheVileOne]

TNA can't do TLC because WWE has it trademarked. Instead TNA made their own version and called it FULL METAL MAYHEM.

[Colossal Spoons]

It should be very easy with your created characters. You know you max them out. :o

There're too many people to make dammit lol. I just did Lashley and I'm gonna start on Kennedy soon. I'm so happy they gave us 3 diff Hogans and not some other important people. :rolleyes:

[The FallenAngel]

There're too many people to make dammit lol. I just did Lashley and I'm gonna start on Kennedy soon. I'm so happy they gave us 3 diff Hogans and not some other important people. :rolleyes:Yeah, I know. 80s Hogan has like the highest stats. I've already made Raven, Styles, but not his moveset, and Samoa Joe, also no moveset. I tried Abyss several times but I can't make his damn mask!

[Colossal Spoons]

http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458678

That should help with Abyss.

[The FallenAngel]

http://forums.gamewinners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458678

That should help with Abyss.Awesome. Thanks alot. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Lesnar arriving in Japan for his match on wednesday with Nakemura

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/3888/brock0103064pi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/index.php)

[Sarge 2.0]

I wonder if he got that damn tattoo lasered off...

[NDX]

Only if we're lucky he did. I hope to somehow see this upcoming match. Still a fan of his and I want to see if he can still perform.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'd be way too distracted by the phallus covering his torso to be entertained by the match. :(

[Hunter Rider]

His last defense against Nakanishi was pretty good and this upcoming match with Najermura should be even better as he is a top class opponent

[Sarge 2.0]

Anywhere I can find Puro stuff in the States?

[Hunter Rider]

Anywhere I can find Puro stuff in the States?

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showforum=5

if you join this site you can download a lot of matches both new and classic from Japan

[Sarge 2.0]

Muchas gracias amigo. :D:up:

[Warhammer]

John Cena is getting booed every week now.
Who is going to win the Elimination Chamber?

I am thinking either The Masterpiece or Kurt Angle.

What do y'all think?

[Sarge 2.0]

In my dreams, Cena will win, only to be screwed out of the title by HBK and Vince.

[Lone Wolf]

John Cena is getting booed every week now.
Who is going to win the Elimination Chamber?

I am thinking either The Masterpiece or Kurt Angle.

What do y'all think?

Cena is going to win,I read it off a spoiler at imdb from someone who got it at a site.Its pretty obvious,though some people say Angle will be victorious.

[NDX]

The Eddie Guerrero autobiography, "Cheating Death, Stealing Life," has gotten off to a disappointing start in sales. It's well behind the Shawn Michaels book, which has been out a month, and that hasn't sold too well either.
I'm not surprised. I think people have gotten tired of wrestling biographies and wrestler written books since Foley made is a semi-career.

[Warhammer]

^^ True, there were only so many of the biographys that actually sold.
Like the Rock's, Mankind's, and so on.

[Hunter Rider]

The WWE look like they are playing the very predictble swerve angle with HBK/Vince,thats a mistake IMO if the idea is to have Cena take on Shawn
Anyone with half a brain can see it's Cena who needs the heel turn

[Eric Draven]

I think by trying to repeat the Screwjob, they could get a Bret Hart-type reaction for Cena. But of course, it's going to backfire like hell and people will just end up cheering for Shawn and Vince over Cena.....

[Hunter Rider]

Muchas gracias amigo. :D:up:

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif:up:

You can get Liger and Kobashi and Misawa etc on the forum as well as new JR HW's like KENTA,Marafuji and Shibata

[Sarge 2.0]

First thing I'm going to do is a Muta binge, then Liger, and then ohh the possibilites. :D

[Hunter Rider]

First thing I'm going to do is a Muta binge, then Liger, and then ohh the possibilites. :D

LOL,be sure to check out KENTA,the guy is arguably pound for pound the best wrestler in the world:up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Will do. Now I just need to find somewhere to d/l lucha libre and I'll be in like Flynn.

[Hunter Rider]

Will do. Now I just need to find somewhere to d/l lucha libre and I'll be in like Flynn.

some of the guys there are huge Lucha fans,they have regular threads with AAA and the like matches

[The Techno Bat]

Vince has got the biggest hard on for John Cena for some reason :confused: Anybody know the real story behind it?

Kurt Angle is soooooooo over right now he definately needs to have the strap put back on him, but I have been saying that for about two months now, and I thought it was great how Kurt Angle and Davari were getting cheered in Pennsylvania on RAW and Cena was getting booed!

The Highlight of the night though was The Big Show destroying everything in his path with that loaded cast, did you guys/gals see the size of that cast? It is super mega huge and I hope Show splits HHH's head wide open with it, I want The Big Show to win.

It was great seeing Gregory Helms back on tv, just wish it was in a better program than with Jerry Lawler, but then again perhaps it is going to get The King off of broadcasting so we can hear more Joey Styles and Coach!

[Colossal Spoons]

I dunno, Styles' voice hasn't grown on me yet.

[punishermax]

Styles' uh style will grow on ya, although i think he was better suited in ECW.

[Eklypze]

styles was definately better suited for ECW but he is hands down the best announcer to replace JR he is an awesome commentator ive always loved his stuff now if we could ust get joel gertner haha that would be great i mean at least we dont have someone like kriss kloss from xpw all though i did like larry rivera

[Eklypze]

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?showforum=5

if you join this site you can download a lot of matches both new and classic from Japan

man it wont let me join that damn site and i really want to AAHHH!!!!

[Hunter Rider]

SD Main Event Spoilers from a guy that was therehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

"In what must have been one of the most embarrassing "gimmick malfunctions" since The Shocker, it was obvious that things did not go as planned for Mark Henry breaking into the cage. Apparently Mark Henry was supposed to break the chain, enter the cage and interfere to cost Batists and Rey Mysterio the match. Unfortunately, the cage and/or chain would not give way. Instead Mark Henry did everything possible including hanging from the chain with dead weight for at least 5 minutes before it finally broke. Meanwhile MNM tried to sell their injuries by laying on the mat the entire time. It looked like they had actually gone to sleep and were taking a nap at this point. Apparently, Batista was not allowed to improvise in this situation so he essentially stood in one place for the entire time watching Mark Henry struggle with the chain. I was half expecting him to hand him a set of bolt cutters just to end the agony or light up a cigarette and take a seat while he watched Henry struggle.

When Henry finally did find a way in the cage he "ripped" the cage door off it's hinges and tried to bring it into the ring. I guess it didn't occur to him to tip it perpendicular to the mat so it would slide in. Instead he tried to push it through laying flat and it got stuck. Meanwhile, Batista (who probably wanted to swallow cyanide at this point) once again stood and watched as the weapon which would be used to defeat his team was slooooooowly pushed in the ring."

[Sarge 2.0]

Dear God....that's hilarious and unbeliveabley sad all at the same time. I smell Gooker over at WrestleCrap for this one. I actually feel bad for Batista. :D

[The Techno Bat]

SD Main Event Spoilers from a guy that was therehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

"In what must have been one of the most embarrassing "gimmick malfunctions" since The Shocker, it was obvious that things did not go as planned for Mark Henry breaking into the cage. Apparently Mark Henry was supposed to break the chain, enter the cage and interfere to cost Batists and Rey Mysterio the match. Unfortunately, the cage and/or chain would not give way. Instead Mark Henry did everything possible including hanging from the chain with dead weight for at least 5 minutes before it finally broke. Meanwhile MNM tried to sell their injuries by laying on the mat the entire time. It looked like they had actually gone to sleep and were taking a nap at this point. Apparently, Batista was not allowed to improvise in this situation so he essentially stood in one place for the entire time watching Mark Henry struggle with the chain. I was half expecting him to hand him a set of bolt cutters just to end the agony or light up a cigarette and take a seat while he watched Henry struggle.

When Henry finally did find a way in the cage he "ripped" the cage door off it's hinges and tried to bring it into the ring. I guess it didn't occur to him to tip it perpendicular to the mat so it would slide in. Instead he tried to push it through laying flat and it got stuck. Meanwhile, Batista (who probably wanted to swallow cyanide at this point) once again stood and watched as the weapon which would be used to defeat his team was slooooooowly pushed in the ring."


My response:
Man that s*cks in sooooo many ways. Why is the WWE doing this to Batista? First he had to put up with the over the hill fat ass Vader who couldn't wrestle, and now this. Geez!

[Lobo]

SD Main Event Spoilers from a guy that was therehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

"In what must have been one of the most embarrassing "gimmick malfunctions" since The Shocker, it was obvious that things did not go as planned for Mark Henry breaking into the cage. Apparently Mark Henry was supposed to break the chain, enter the cage and interfere to cost Batists and Rey Mysterio the match. Unfortunately, the cage and/or chain would not give way. Instead Mark Henry did everything possible including hanging from the chain with dead weight for at least 5 minutes before it finally broke. Meanwhile MNM tried to sell their injuries by laying on the mat the entire time. It looked like they had actually gone to sleep and were taking a nap at this point. Apparently, Batista was not allowed to improvise in this situation so he essentially stood in one place for the entire time watching Mark Henry struggle with the chain. I was half expecting him to hand him a set of bolt cutters just to end the agony or light up a cigarette and take a seat while he watched Henry struggle.

When Henry finally did find a way in the cage he "ripped" the cage door off it's hinges and tried to bring it into the ring. I guess it didn't occur to him to tip it perpendicular to the mat so it would slide in. Instead he tried to push it through laying flat and it got stuck. Meanwhile, Batista (who probably wanted to swallow cyanide at this point) once again stood and watched as the weapon which would be used to defeat his team was slooooooowly pushed in the ring."


Funniest thing I've ever read :D

[The FallenAngel]

SD Main Event Spoilers from a guy that was therehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

"In what must have been one of the most embarrassing "gimmick malfunctions" since The Shocker, it was obvious that things did not go as planned for Mark Henry breaking into the cage. Apparently Mark Henry was supposed to break the chain, enter the cage and interfere to cost Batists and Rey Mysterio the match. Unfortunately, the cage and/or chain would not give way. Instead Mark Henry did everything possible including hanging from the chain with dead weight for at least 5 minutes before it finally broke. Meanwhile MNM tried to sell their injuries by laying on the mat the entire time. It looked like they had actually gone to sleep and were taking a nap at this point. Apparently, Batista was not allowed to improvise in this situation so he essentially stood in one place for the entire time watching Mark Henry struggle with the chain. I was half expecting him to hand him a set of bolt cutters just to end the agony or light up a cigarette and take a seat while he watched Henry struggle.

When Henry finally did find a way in the cage he "ripped" the cage door off it's hinges and tried to bring it into the ring. I guess it didn't occur to him to tip it perpendicular to the mat so it would slide in. Instead he tried to push it through laying flat and it got stuck. Meanwhile, Batista (who probably wanted to swallow cyanide at this point) once again stood and watched as the weapon which would be used to defeat his team was slooooooowly pushed in the ring."God...that's just horrible. Mark Henry doesn't deserve to even be in the ring at all, let alone feuding with the Champ.

[Sabretooth]

Hahahahaha that's hilarious :D :up:

I wonder how hard Batista had to try not to laugh? :D

[Eric Draven]

I think we found Mark Henry's new role in the WWE: Shockmaster v 2.0 :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

What did everyone think of Edge's Ric Flair Road Rage parody? I literally laughed myself into tears. :) :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

I thought it was pretty hilarious, especially how he kept saying "Woo!" in frequent intervals and babbled about the Horsemen. :D

[The FallenAngel]

It was one of the funniest things I've seen on Raw yet. Edge is awesome. :up:

[White_Howling]

oh my god a reason to watch it on friday.. i wonder if they'll show the entire thing

[LastSunrise1981]

Boy, I'd probably bust a gut if Edge decided to do an Cena impression. :eek: :up:

"Who does he think he is? Cutting off the Nature Boy! WOO! WOO! WOO!"

*Edge/Flair walks outside* WOO WOO! WOO! WOO! WOO! "There's shrinkage it's cold! WOO! WOO!"

Haha, Edge rules. I think if he can continue to do skits like this and drop Lita, he'll get over quick and will remain over too. :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

It's not even like he's a bad wrestler, he's definitely good, but he got the bigger push compared to his more talented partner, and I think that's why he isn't that over yet.