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Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 09:32 PM
The Whole F**king Show is on his way back.......Edge vs RVD at WM22http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: anyone ?

punishermax
01-09-2006, 09:33 PM
Anyone else get the feeling tha going in this Raw looked to be awesome, but now........I'm afraid its going to suck just like most of them for the last.......hmmm.........well, a while now.

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 09:34 PM
The Whole F**king Show is on his way back.......Edge vs RVD at WM22http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: anyone ?
That'd be awesome, but it'll probably end up being Cena vs. HHH :(

punishermax
01-09-2006, 09:34 PM
I thought the delays were only a few seconds?

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:35 PM
I thought the delays were only a few seconds?
It might be. I've heard that sometimes it's 30 minutes,sometimes it's just a few minutes,and sometimes there is no delay. But I really don't know for sure.

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 09:36 PM
^Guess that would explain the nipslips that make it onto the air. Or Vince is just a dirty old man lol.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:39 PM
^Guess that would explain the nipslips that make it onto the air. Or Vince is just a dirty old man lol.
Yeah. I remember wondering why they showed Shelton tripping off the staircase that one time and falling on his ass. Maybe the guys in the back just thought it was too funny to pass up.

LastSunrise1981
01-09-2006, 09:41 PM
That'd be awesome, but it'll probably end up being Cena vs. HHH :(


*Prays* It's not everyday I ask for Triple H to win, but please, please let Triple H bury Cena and that way he'll never, ever get close to another world heavyweight title reign.

I know Triple H will get it back and hold it for a long time; however, at least he's somewhat fresh now and entertaining unlike Cena.

Please, please push Cena to mid-card Hell and let guys like Edge, Angle, Kane, and HBK feud for the title.

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 09:43 PM
So, I honestly believe that Right To Censor is gonna get resurrected to stop this Live Sex Celebration.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:43 PM
Gotta wonder,is Angle gonna turn face now? He's teaming with HBK against Masters and Carlito...

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:44 PM
So, I honestly believe that Right To Censor is gonna get resurrected to stop this Live Sex Celebration.
Or Cena will interfere,and somehow still get his rematch at RR

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 09:44 PM
Please, please push Cena to mid-card Hell and let guys like Edge, Angle, Kane, and HBK feud for the title.
Honestly while im no Cena fan i'd rather try to re-invent the guy than bury him,he bumps well,has mic skills and also has a heart for the industry,he is also very young
Im a big HBK mark but he is 40,Angle needs to rest not work more big title matches and Kane isn't and never could be a draw
Guys like Cena,RVD,Edge,Orton and indeed even Masters and Carlito will be the guys the company needs to establish over the next 5 years

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 09:46 PM
Please, please push Cena to mid-card Hell and let guys like Edge, Angle, Kane, and HBK feud for the title.

That's where I have to stop you. I can't see that ever happening.

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 09:46 PM
So, I honestly believe that Right To Censor is gonna get resurrected to stop this Live Sex Celebration.
I was thinking the exact same thing, wouldn't it be ironic if it was brought back with Hassan in it?

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:46 PM
Kane could DEFINITELY be a huge draw. This guy can be the next Undertaker,they just treat him like crap for a reason that I don't think anyone knows...

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 09:47 PM
Or Cena will interfere,and somehow still get his rematch at RR

OR lose his rematch and win the Rumble:(

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:48 PM
OR lose his rematch and win the Rumble:(
Oh yeah,that's true...






:(

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 09:48 PM
Gotta wonder,is Angle gonna turn face now? He's teaming with HBK against Masters and Carlito...

I dont' see a face turn, just one disfunctional tag match. For both teams.

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 09:48 PM
Kane could DEFINITELY be a huge draw. This guy can be the next Undertaker,they just treat him like crap for a reason that I don't think anyone knows...

Taker is a draw as a secondary main event in freak matches not as a champ and Kane isnt in Takers league,he hasn't the presence or the talent
Big monsters work secondary unless their name is Vader

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 09:49 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing, wouldn't it be ironic if it was brought back with Hassan in it?


That would be nuts, and a big surprise.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:52 PM
Taker is a draw as a secondary main event in freak matches not as a champ and Kane isnt in Takers league,he hasn't the presence or the talent
Big monsters work secondary unless their name is Vader
How can you know that for sure? Kane has been recieving the crap end of the stick since day one. He has very good mic skills,they just don't expose him enough,to put it bluntly. The whole gimmick does need tweaking,yeah,but that could happen if they would give the guy a chance.

On another note,am I hearing pops for Masters? :confused:

punishermax
01-09-2006, 09:54 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem like Raw is taking a lot of commercial breaks?

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:56 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem like Raw is taking a lot of commercial breaks?
It is. They also have tons of commercials done during over top rope battle royals/eliminations/etc.

Probably getting them all in now so there's no interruption when Edge gets some ''Edgehead'' :p

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 09:56 PM
How can you know that for sure? Kane has been recieving the crap end of the stick since day one. He has very good mic skills,they just don't expose him enough,to put it bluntly. The whole gimmick does need tweaking,yeah,but that could happen if they would give the guy a chance.

On another note,am I hearing pops for Masters? :confused:

I know it because ive seen Kane work with all the top guys and he is a standard big man and ive never seen any good promo's from him plus as i said big monsters don't draw unless they are Vader.

Andre and Taker are both streets ahead in the presence department which is important for big freakish dudes and they still were never looked at as long term draws with the belt
Takers longest run was only because of all the problems with HBK and Hart in 97

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 09:56 PM
I'm hearing muffled retard noises coming out of his mouth. Masters I mean.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 09:58 PM
I'm hearing muffled retard noises coming out of his mouth. Masters I mean.
That's because he always sounds like that. It's impossible to like his mic skills because of that musclehead type voice.:(

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:00 PM
He reminds me of Arnold in every way possible. Especially when he told Carlito "Shut up, you idiot" in the lockerroom lol.

punishermax
01-09-2006, 10:00 PM
More cheers for Angle, yay.

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:03 PM
Just saw a Dane Cook Su-Fi poster in the crowd hahaha.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:04 PM
He reminds me of Arnold in every way possible. Especially when he told Carlito "Shut up, you idiot" in the lockerroom lol.
Despite that,I do think he is improving. I was suprised that he actually made Viscera look half way interesting during their match a few weeks ago.

ANd here we go with another commercial.

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:05 PM
Oh, his ring work is on the come-up definately.

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 10:13 PM
I think I will always hate Masters. Even if he becomes better than AJ, Bret, Daniels, Davey Boy Smith, Samoa Joe, Jushin Liger, and KENTA combined, I will hate Masters.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:14 PM
I think I will always hate Masters. Even if he becomes better than AJ, Bret, Daniels, Davey Boy Smith, Samoa Joe, Jushin Liger, and KENTA combined, I will hate Masters.
Oh,he has a long way to go. I'm just saying he's not the crappiest guy on the roster. But they are however pushing him way too prematurely.

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 10:15 PM
I don't like his "Neo-Lex Luger" Gimmick, if he gets a new gimmick, then he might grow on me

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:15 PM
Kurt has become the new Bret in terms of getting screwed. :down:

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:15 PM
I think I will always hate Masters. Even if he becomes better than AJ, Bret, Daniels, Davey Boy Smith, Samoa Joe, Jushin Liger, and KENTA combined, I will hate Masters.

Your using Doom's avvy:eek: :mad: :( ..well i suppose Lastsunrise did steal the one i made you:(

Masters and Carlito will be the next tag champs and damn good at it IMO

Masters in a sentence with KENTA makes me gigglehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:16 PM
It's pretty obvious Shawn is gonna turn heel with Vince

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:17 PM
Masters and Carlito will be the next tag champs and damn good at it IMO[/IMG]

Ok who are you and what did you do with Hunter Rider? :mad:

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 10:18 PM
It's pretty obvious Shawn is gonna turn heel with Vince
Good, Shawn's a good heel

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Ok who are you and what did you do with Hunter Rider? :mad:This, and disagreeing with Vile on PPV results...man somone just got bodysnatched! :eek:

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Doppleganger Rider is more like it!

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:19 PM
Ok who are you and what did you do with Hunter Rider? :mad:

lol,hey i know im the smarky fan but i liked their double team stuff in the EC and i could see them being a strong tag championship team
Hell i even thought your boy did good work in the cage on SD and am mildly perturbed that he will probably have to forfeit the strap

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:21 PM
It's pretty obvious Shawn is gonna turn heel with Vince

I don't know i think Vince has plans to wrestle Shawn at WM22 to complete the main event set

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:21 PM
lol,hey i know im the smarky fan but i liked their double team stuff in the EC and i could see them being a strong tag championship team
Hell i even thought your boy did good work in the cage on SD and am mildly perturbed that he will probably have to forfeit the strap

Damn Mark Henry :mad:

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:21 PM
This, and disagreeing with Vile on PPV results...man somone just got bodysnatched! :eek:
where did i disagree with Vile ?:confused:
i saw his comment about the PPV but i actually watched it and thought it was decent to good

punishermax
01-09-2006, 10:22 PM
Yes, HBK v Angle, awesome.

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:22 PM
Damn Mark Henry :mad:

Yeah he's very sloppy and it looks like it cost Batista

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:23 PM
Yes, HBK v Angle, awesome.

When's this hapening ?

punishermax
01-09-2006, 10:24 PM
Next week.

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:24 PM
Next week, and Kurt better not get screwed again cuz his arse is gettin pretty sore.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:25 PM
holy crap! 5-way!

punishermax
01-09-2006, 10:25 PM
Man I want that bed and everything in it.

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:26 PM
Got there was a lot of tit in that bed but before that HHH's promo worries me:(

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 10:27 PM
where did i disagree with Vile ?:confused:
i saw his comment about the PPV but i actually watched it and thought it was decent to goodYou usually share Viles anti-WWE sentiment, so I was kind of surprised that you enjoyed the PPV. I didn't order it, but now I'm getting it as soon as it hits dvd. :up:

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:28 PM
Update On Austin Vs. Hogan, Shelton's Mother Not Fat Enough

Partial Credit: PWInsider

When the idea of having Shelton's Mother involvement in the current running angle on SmackDown! Vince McMahon had an image of a much larger African American to play the role. When McMahon interviewed for the role, Thea Vidale was told that she was not fat enough and needed to wear a fat suit for the role.

Shelton's real mother wouldn't be compatible for a role like that due to the fact that she is the complete opposite in what they are looking for.

Hulk Hogan stated today on Howard Stern's Sirius, that the last time he spoke with Vince McMahon was around SummerSlam time in regards to a possible Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan match.

At that time some of the higher powers in the company seemed totally against the match when it was brought to their attention. Bubba stated that time is running out and that McMahon should get into gear because the PPV is looking weak at this point.

Momentarily after he commented on that, Bubba played an audio tape of Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan from his show years ago.

The Megapowers re-explode!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?:eek: .......Zimmer frame on a pole matchhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:29 PM
So with all this talk of "torrid" sex, I decided to look it up so I can add it to my vocab.

1. Passionate; ardent....that's cool for sex right?

2. Hurried; rapid.... That's not cool

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:30 PM
You usually share Viles anti-WWE sentiment, so I was kind of surprised that you enjoyed the PPV. I didn't order it, but now I'm getting it as soon as it hits dvd. :up:

Well my anti-wwe sentiment comes from when they do things i hate ala most of last year but as a fan for 15 years when thigns pick up i am happy to aknowledge it

I think right now things hang in the balance,the next 3 weeks through RR will be crucial to see if anything remotely interesting is gonna be developed or i'll be here moaning about missed oppertunities and ****ty,predictble ideas

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:34 PM
Shelton,NOOOOO!!!!!!! :(

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 10:34 PM
I look at it this way...Edge winning last night saved the PPV...and it might save the product as well, if the cards are played right. Althought Cena coming out at the begininng of Raw tonight was sickening, I'm hoping Edge goes over clean at the Rumble and retains the championship. Otherwise we've got a three week reign of waste on a guy who really deserved the title, and more Cena. :down

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:35 PM
Shelton's real mother wouldn't be compatible for a role like that due to the fact that she is the complete opposite in what they are looking for.
She's skinny and white? Heh




Seriously, i'm glad HHH spoiled the future for us. Who woulda guessed that he'd have his belt back so soon? :rolleyes:

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 10:35 PM
I missed his promo...what was it?

Hunter Rider
01-09-2006, 10:36 PM
I missed his promo...what was it?

He told Grisham that he was gonna win the Rumble and get his belt back at WM22

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 10:36 PM
He talked about how he's going to win the royal rumble and the title

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:36 PM
He said "Come Wrestlemania, the king will be back on his throne" or something like that.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:37 PM
Basically,like any other of his promos,cept change ''Big Show'' and ''Ric Flair'' to John Cena and Edge ;)

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:40 PM
Funny, Shelton's finisher isn't even a T-Bone although they continue to call it that. Oh, and his mom's screaming makes me wanna rip my ears off.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:42 PM
Yeah,she got annoying quick

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:43 PM
My mom sure as hell doesn't scream like that...


*first person to crack a mom sex joke has to e-fight me*

punishermax
01-09-2006, 10:44 PM
The RR commercial is awesome. With the "You screwed Bretus" to Shane doing his dance its just funny.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:45 PM
Shelton's real mom probably doesn't either,

Jeez,kinda ironic Kane can squash Snitsky now,but a year ago Gene Snitsky made him bleed

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:47 PM
What's up with this crowd? Cena cheers and edge boos.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:48 PM
I'm pretty sure there's mostly women/kids/20 something year olds there,the main age ranges that seem to like Cena.

*prays that Cena will turn heel somehow during Edge's segment*

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:50 PM
Here we go...

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 10:51 PM
Time to find out who's going to interupt

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:54 PM
I'm pretty sure there's mostly women/kids/20 something year olds there,the main age ranges that seem to like Cena.

*prays that Cena will turn heel somehow during Edge's segment*

Let me speak for 20yr olds everywhere. "We don't like Cena"

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 10:58 PM
3 mins left and no tits arrggh! :mad:

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 10:59 PM
That Staind song was all wrong for the promo.

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:00 PM
Yes,

You know what'd be funny, if it just cut away before anything happened, no interuptions, just cutting away

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Whoa I actually saw something blurred out

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Thought it was just my TV

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:03 PM
Flair? WTF?

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:03 PM
Flair!

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 11:04 PM
I wish I was watching Raw right now. :(

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 11:05 PM
I actually didn't see that coming.


The Conchairto bring back great memories. Solo or not.

punishermax
01-09-2006, 11:05 PM
They went farther with that than what I expected.

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:05 PM
Cena's coming out in 3...2.....

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:05 PM
I wish I was watching Raw right now. :(
They didn't show **** though. But Lita did get in one hell of a pose at one part :D

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:06 PM
Ok maybe I was wrong


EDIT: Nope, wasn't

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:07 PM
Ugh stop the Cena chants! :mad:

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 11:08 PM
They didn't show **** though. But Lita did get in one hell of a pose at one part :D


Uh huh :up:

punishermax
01-09-2006, 11:08 PM
Wow, I was right, Raw did suck.

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:09 PM
Why couldn't they just end it with edge beating Flair, when was the last time a Raw ended without Cena "saving the day"

Colossal Spoons
01-09-2006, 11:09 PM
Eh, mediocre RAW as usual. Pretty dumb crowd tonight too.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:09 PM
Yeah,I can't believe I was actually....looking forward to it. Too much Cena,just like I figured.:down

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 11:10 PM
Yeah,I can't believe I was actually....looking forward to it. Too much Cena,just like I figured.:downHUge disappointment, I guess? :(

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:11 PM
What's up with this crowd? Cena cheers and edge boos.

I think the WWE may've actually found someone that the fans love to boo more than Cena: Edge.


Well that, and I thought Cena was probably at his best mic-wise in a while. When he first came out tonight, I thought he was going to do the Diesel-turn......

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:11 PM
HUge disappointment, I guess? :(
Massive :(

Believe me,you didn't miss ****. I would've enjoyed it more if there was a better crowd

Capt Throbberson
01-09-2006, 11:11 PM
I was hoping for right to censor

Would have made it a whole lot more intresting

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 11:13 PM
I think the WWE may've actually found someone that the fans love to boo more than Cena: Edge.


Well that, and I thought Cena was probably at his best mic-wise in a while. When he first came out tonight, I thought he was going to do the Diesel-turn......I was under the impression that Edge got cheered to hell last night...wtf is up with these crowds?

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:13 PM
I think the WWE may've actually found someone that the fans love to boo more than Cena: Edge.


Well that, and I thought Cena was probably at his best mic-wise in a while. When he first came out tonight, I thought he was going to do the Diesel-turn......
I think it also comes from the fact that this was one of the few crowds that liked Cena.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:15 PM
I was under the impression that Edge got cheered to hell last night...wtf is up with these crowds?
He did,which doesn't make sense. If Edge won the championship a few weeks ago and then they went to another arena,you could bet Edge would've been cheered,

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 11:15 PM
It probably depends on the location. If it were Philly or NY, Edge would be the one getting huge pops, and Cena wouldn't get a word out.

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:16 PM
I was under the impression that Edge got cheered to hell last night...wtf is up with these crowds?

I think the reason why Edge may've gotten cheered was due more to the fact that a new champion was crowned then Edge winning it. Carlito could've won the title and he would've been cheered at that moment.....

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:17 PM
I think the reason why Edge may've gotten cheered was due more to the fact that a new champion was crowned then Edge winning it. Carlito could've won the title and he would've been cheered at that moment.....
But Carlito got pops tonight too.

Well,if Edge is champ the next time they go to Canada,he'll surely get cheered.:o

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:17 PM
I think it also comes from the fact that this was one of the few crowds that liked Cena.

Or that Cena is the lesser of two evils. Remember, Edge was also booed heavily when he was a face and that necessitated a heel turn as well.....

As long as they keep up Cena like they did this week, I could tolerate him more.

Sarge 2.0
01-09-2006, 11:18 PM
Yeah, they sure do love their own up there. That was the only place guys like Christian and Bret Hart could get respect from the crowds for a while. :o

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:18 PM
But Carlito got pops tonight too.

Well,if Edge is champ the next time they go to Canada,he'll surely get cheered.:o

Don't be too sure about that. Remember Edge got booed in his hometown (his own hometown!) at Summerslam one year.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:20 PM
Or that Cena is the lesser of two evils. Remember, Edge was also booed heavily when he was a face and that necessitated a heel turn as well.....

As long as they keep up Cena like they did this week, I could tolerate him more.
I do kinda like him reacting to the boos,yeah,shows I'm getting my job done.:D

But seriously,as long as he doesn't cave in to the now few people who cheer him,I'll be fine with him,I guess.:o

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:22 PM
I do kinda like him reacting to the boos,yeah,shows I'm getting my job done.:D

But seriously,as long as he doesn't cave in to the now few people who cheer him,I'll be fine with him,I guess.:o

This week's Cena was the Cena I wanted to see. The guy who just rips into everybody. Even the fans that booed him. Seriously, reminds me of Diesel back in 1995 when he would only slap hands with fans who wore the black gloves :up:

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:22 PM
Don't be too sure about that. Remember Edge got booed in his hometown (his own hometown!) at Summerslam one year.
He was also bland as hell. He's changed much more since they last saw him. That won't guarantee it,but tons of other heels are regularly cheered at Canada.

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:23 PM
This week's Cena was the Cena I wanted to see. The guy who just rips into everybody. Even the fans that booed him. Seriously, reminds me of Diesel back in 1995 when he would only slap hands with fans who wore the black gloves :up:
Yeah,but he's still need to bring back the raps to get me really interested,and probably get dropped into the mid card,just so that he wouldn't be forced down my throat every single week.

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:24 PM
He was also bland as hell. He's changed much more since they last saw him. That won't guarantee it,but tons of other heels are regularly cheered at Canada.

Actually he was a face when he got booed :confused:

I dunno, I guess the reason why Edge got cheered yesterday was due to the novelty of him winning the title. But once that wore off, people realized he was Edge and it's the guy they love to boo.

NDX
01-09-2006, 11:26 PM
Edge is just not like for the most part. I agree with Draven, anyone who beat Cena for the title would have gotten a huge crowd reaction only for beating Cena, not because of their own character.

I know many fans who never have liked Edge, no matter how over he was or how talented a wrestler he is (or in my opinion, could be). He's annoying and stale as a face or heel. His personality doesn't feel original. I look at him and a I see a wrestler who should have never stepped past midcard title status.

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:26 PM
Yeah,but he's still need to bring back the raps to get me really interested,and probably get dropped into the mid card,just so that he wouldn't be forced down my throat every single week.

Yeah, the raps would help. But what's more important is the intensity. And honestly, this was the first time in months that Cena's displayed any intensity....

Plus FUing Lita really helped things out :o

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:26 PM
I know that,so now that he's a heel,and rated R,the people of Bizarro-World may yet be interested ;)

As for the other part,who really knows? People could've cheered because he finally got rid of that stupid case,I don't know. Only time will tell.

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:31 PM
I know that,so now that he's a heel,and rated R,the people of Bizarro-World may yet be interested ;)

As for the other part,who really knows? People could've cheered because he finally got rid of that stupid case,I don't know. Only time will tell.

Or maybe the Canadian fans will give Cena a huge pop again, you never know ;)

Eric Draven
01-09-2006, 11:33 PM
And to be honest, besides the "live sex act" (did they really have to show Edge's package like that? blech!!), it was a pretty enjoyable Raw. Capped by that tag team match of Michaels/Angle vs Masters/Carlito. The last part of that tag match actually had me cracking up :up:

Call me shocked since I was totally bemoaning this whole "Cena is still a face" thing, but they still managed to keep Cena a face and make him bearable again.....

Sabretooth
01-09-2006, 11:38 PM
Edge is just not like for the most part. I agree with Draven, anyone who beat Cena for the title would have gotten a huge crowd reaction only for beating Cena, not because of their own character.

I know many fans who never have liked Edge, no matter how over he was or how talented a wrestler he is (or in my opinion, could be). He's annoying and stale as a face or heel. His personality doesn't feel original. I look at him and a I see a wrestler who should have never stepped past midcard title status.
As much of a fan as I am of Edge,I agree. He's really taken it down a notch after being separated from Christian,now he has no one to lie back on. He's also had the most gimmick changes in recent memory. I mean,he went from goth,to his heel 'shoot' gimmick tag team with Christian,to a bland face after his neck injury,to a bland Raven type ''What about me?'' heel gimmick,then after the Matt Hardy thing,he became an actually interesting heel for a while (they really screwed up that feud) and now he's a rated R/Dane Cook character.

kane9321
01-10-2006, 12:08 AM
wtf edge...champion...i just got sick

Superman \S/
01-10-2006, 12:24 AM
In a way i'm glad Cenas not chmap. He was a lot better without the title don't you think? He was great on the mic and when talking to Vince if he acted in a different way like this and was chmap i think we would have been ok.

The Ghoul
01-10-2006, 12:30 AM
You ever meet those people who arnt good or bad just uninteresting people?... That's Adam Copeland. Maybe being himself isn't as appealing as it is when a Steve Austin or The Rock "just be themself." Edge needs to be saddled with something to get ahead. Could he be a great champ... Fl_lck yes. But not by just being Adam Copeland. I've seen it mention a little, so lets actually go back 8 years (**** 8 years already?) When he first showed up as the goth vagrant who would lurk in the crowd. It sounds goofy now, but do remember the reaction he was getting, it was incredible & to me that is-was-& will always be what the Edge character is. I said before that the Rated R Superstar & his Hardcore Whore is a rip off of Shane Douglas/Francine. An angry vulgar shoot character. But that isnt a bad thing it works for them.

As for RR I am going to be there & while i am going to be pissed WHEN Cena wins the belt (I really only think they did the angle sunday just to get the money in the bank thing out of the way... Which is why they haven't changed the belt)... But I am so friggin excited about RVD's return i can on only imagine the pop he gets that night. I really hope he returns as the resident ECW revolutionary.

kane9321
01-10-2006, 12:39 AM
I loved the old brood,goth edge coming outta the crowd edge.now his character just sucks. i hate him now

PyroChamber
01-10-2006, 12:40 AM
After watching RAW tonight, I'm starting to get the feeling that some of the fans don't know who to cheer or who to boo; boo Cena last night, he tells the fans to kiss his ass, and they still cheer. And maybe I was hearing things but I think I might have heard some cheers for Calito.

This kinda reminds me of when The Rock came back to RAW and did a heel turn that led to a feud with Goldberg, then he left again and came back as a face all of a sudden.

And is it me or did Lita actually look good tonight? Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some of the Divas look hotter when they become heels.

Superman \S/
01-10-2006, 12:46 AM
Damn right i agree with you on that. Lita o man words can not explain what i'm thinking now. :eek:

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 12:46 AM
Why do they keep letting Lita on the mic? I really can't stand her voice.

WWE is not trying anymore.

TNA may not be the best but at least they are trying.

Superman \S/
01-10-2006, 12:49 AM
Agreed i really hope they see the light and do something alot better this year.

PyroChamber
01-10-2006, 12:51 AM
Yeah, her voice is a bit annoying. Almost sounds like she's been smoking the last 10 years.

I liked it better back she'd talk just a little bit, but then just kick ass in the ring. Now she just talks a lot and acts like an ass.

Eric Draven
01-10-2006, 12:59 AM
After watching RAW tonight, I'm starting to get the feeling that some of the fans don't know who to cheer or who to boo; boo Cena last night, he tells the fans to kiss his ass, and they still cheer. And maybe I was hearing things but I think I might have heard some cheers for Calito.

This kinda reminds me of when The Rock came back to RAW and did a heel turn that led to a feud with Goldberg, then he left again and came back as a face all of a sudden.

And is it me or did Lita actually look good tonight? Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some of the Divas look hotter when they become heels.

The reason why the fans started cheering for Cena again was probably because Cena finally turned back into the character that fans cheered for in the first place.

Well, that and he's feuding with Edge. Tyson Tomko could get a face reaction against Edge :o

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 01:00 AM
damn is kurt angle really injured? hes still moves freaking fast

The Ghoul
01-10-2006, 01:02 AM
TNA may not be the best but at least they are trying.

Speaking of TNA, (lets get off subject for a minute) Who else thinks that Eric Young should get a push I was always impressed by his in ring work, but they are just starting show that he is incredibly funny. His little one-liners actually give me hope that the storytelling in TNA will get better thus making it a seemingly flawless promotion. Esspecially from the funeral, & more recently the Sting tribute. give him more mic time maybe a verbal squabble of some sorts with Christian would be hilarious.

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 01:35 AM
I like Young. He's a good weaselly heel, little bastard.

supraman
01-10-2006, 02:01 AM
anyone know what the name of the theme song was for NYrevolution?

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 02:02 AM
i have to say. lita looked pretty good tonight

Mister J
01-10-2006, 02:20 AM
Firsst off, I haven't been really into Edge since his Hair vs. Hair feud with Kurt Angle. His heel character never got over with me. He was either bland or just whiny. There's potential, but it's stayed just that, potential. I can't stand him with the belt. It doesn't really make sense. The buildup hasn't been there and the way he got the belt holds no credibility. Seems like he's gonna be a transition champ to set up something at WM (maybe Cena vs. HHH or the Triple Threat that's been rumored. HHH did mention both of them in his promo).

Cena was good tonight. He showed some of that anti-hero stuff that got him over in the first place. He doesn't need to be sucking up to the crowd all the time. It was good to hear him tell some of the crowd to 'kiss his ass'.

Of course, everytime I jsut excited about something WWE is doing, they find some inexplicable way to screw it up. I'm still waiting for Kane to be the monster they always hint at.

anyone know what the name of the theme song was for NYrevolution?

'Stricken' by Disturbed

Mister J
01-10-2006, 02:21 AM
Lita did look good tonight. Though when she talks, it sounds like that tongue stud of hers is about 3 sizes too big for her mouth.

...ya know, for a minute I thought Flair was gonna get him some.;)

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 03:48 AM
Cena got his chants back..

stupid question. at what point of his career did Austin get booed?

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 04:01 AM
I don't think Lita has looked good for a while now; especially tonight. Her ass looked really bad. I'm really feelin Mickie James and her thick hindquarters; not her face thugh.

NDX
01-10-2006, 04:53 AM
This week's RAW was exteremly disappointing outside of the Tag Match. Don't know if I want to watch next week's if this is how it's going to be each week, Angel v. Michaels or not.

WWE should have left RVD's return at the Royal Rumble a surprise. Hearing his music hit all of a sudden halfway through the Rumble match, the crowd explosion could be epic. I know it still will, but it would have felt better if it was a surprise.

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 06:17 AM
I don't know what to make of RAW
The whole sex thing was terrible,it was just...........bleh

I honestly feel cena will be champ again come Rumble hence Edge just keeping the spinner......oh well that was short lived hope:(

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 08:18 AM
Apparently 3MW returned and worked Heat yesterday

3dman27
01-10-2006, 08:54 AM
Apparently 3MW returned and worked Heat yesterday
3mw? as in three minuite warning?

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 09:01 AM
3mw? as in three minuite warning?

yep:(

3dman27
01-10-2006, 09:10 AM
thanks hunter
about the edge lite "sex scene" i tried to post this last night but the hype was acting up again and it wouldnt type in
i was expecting edge to dump lita for lilian garcia resulting in a feud storyline

kane9321
01-10-2006, 10:00 AM
thanks hunter
about the edge lite "sex scene" i tried to post this last night but the hype was acting up again and it wouldnt type in
i was expecting edge to dump lita for lilian garcia resulting in a feud storyline


that would be nice,anything to get lilian more on air time is great..i always thought she was a hottie

The Techno Bat
01-10-2006, 10:08 AM
The only great part about RAW last night was when Ric Flair came out and did what he does best, and that was talk on the microphone and entertain the crowd, he got a really good pop and I think it was because the fans wanted to cheer for something good and last night's RAW did not deliver at all. The sex thing was DUMB, Chavo vs Conway could have gone a bit longer to showcase both of there skills. Happy to see Chavo winning and getting into the Royal Rumble. Trish vs Ashley UGH, get rid of the Mickie James gimmick and allow the girl to do what she does best and actually wrestle.

And I agree with NDX, RVD's returns should have been left alone for a shock/surprise element for the big PPV

And was it just me or did it seem like Lillian was messing up last night on the microphone?

~†~§iX~†~
01-10-2006, 10:37 AM
After watching Raw, I can't believe that the same guy who was behind the awesome shoot-esque promo with Michael PS Hayes only a few weeks ago did one of the most cringe worthy segments since Mae Young at RR2000. Edge is becoming stale and he doesn't seem to look comfortable or convincing in his current heel gimmick. And Lita just needs to shut up. I don't care if she exposed a breast last night, she must be stopped. She is not a major heel because of talented mic work or in ring skills. She is a huge heel because her dirty laundry got aired in public and in a lot of these cases I don't agree with their use, especially when her character (Can we even call it that when it is grounded in reality so much?) appears to be smug and proud about everything she did in real life.

As for Edge, I was telling people months ago that this was how he would cash in his money in the bank, but I thought he would pull it just before Wrestlemania was about to go off the air, because once WM ends, his year window of opportunity would end. When I heard about the chamber, I thought it was shocking and clever, but Raw showed me that he doesn't seem ready for the main event!......

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 11:05 AM
Last week, IWGP champion Brock Lesnar arrived in Japan for the 1/4 Tokyo Dome show with former fianc饠Rena Mero, AKA Sable. Apparently the couple reconciled, and in fact, have gotten married. In Japan, Lesnar referred to Mero as his wife. According to a report in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the newlyweds are living in a Minneapolis home near the residence of Joe Laurinaitis, AKA Road Warrior Animal.

hehehe


The group of Torrie Wilson, Victoria and Candice Michelle are now going to be referred to as "Vince's Devils."



:rolleyes:

3dman27
01-10-2006, 11:31 AM
that would be nice,anything to get lilian more on air time is great..i always thought she was a hottie
she is indeed

nite-owl
01-10-2006, 11:45 AM
Hey, hunter did you get those ring of honour dvds yet?

PyroChamber
01-10-2006, 12:18 PM
The group of Torrie Wilson, Victoria and Candice Michelle are now going to be referred to as "Vince's Devils." That's funny, according to Wikipedia they were called "Ladies in Pink". So what, are they gonna be doing Vince's dirty work in the Women's division now?

And maybe it's me but Mickie James new theme sounds a little like "Mickey" by Toni Basil, but then again I guess that would make a lot of sense.

Here's Miscellaneous stuff I found out; Boogeyman was in Transporter 2 as "SWAT Commander", Jillian Hall's real name is Mecaela Mercedes, and Boogeyman is scheduled to be a guest of Roddy Piper in Piper's Pit on the Jan 13 2006 edition of Friday Night Smackdown!

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 12:33 PM
Chavo vs Conway could have gone a bit longer to showcase both of there skills.

Hehe, you just said "Conway" and "skills" in the same sentence. A little early for an April Fool's joke, don't ya think?:o

Bad Superman
01-10-2006, 12:34 PM
Well, Edge is the WWE Champion :up: but what's up with Lita taking Edge's mic time at the beginning of RAW? Kills the Champ's "momentum" IMO. Just watched the first half of the show.

PS- Please get rid of that horrible spinning belt.

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 12:39 PM
Hey, hunter did you get those ring of honour dvds yet?
They came 2 weeks after i ordered them which apparently is standard for UK delivery's

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 12:41 PM
Well, Edge is the WWE Champion :up: but what's up with Lita taking Edge's mic time at the beginning of RAW? Kills the Champ's "momentum" IMO. Just watched the first half of the show.

PS- Please get rid of that horrible spinning belt.

The belt isn't changing because he will be giving it back in 2 weeks:(

Edge's R-Rated Superstar gimick is ok but it kinda feels like a B-grade version of Shawn Michaels DX heel character

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 12:59 PM
Source: PWInsider.com

As noted several days ago, Vince McMahon gave Joey Styles a meeting two weeks ago prior to RAW letting him know that he needed to work on his announcing style. Vince was very open about telling Styles what he was doing wrong and what he wanted from him. Sources report that Joey is going to need to learn that he is not calling 'ECW matches' and that if he wants to stay on RAW long-term, he'll need to change his ways. Styles is a great play by play announcer, although WWE has one way and that is Vince's way. Styles has been very vocal in the past about WWE's over-the-top storylines. He was also nearly silent for the sex segment on RAW last night. It's amazing what a WWE contract can do to one person.

Damnit Vince you ****ing tool:mad:

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 01:07 PM
whoa.. what is the WWE style of announcing?

Styles forced to shut up thats way too funny

Bizzybone
01-10-2006, 01:08 PM
Whatever happened to ken Shamrock and why did kurt angle steal his sinature move?

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 01:23 PM
Shamrock gets beat up every Wednesday on UFC nowadays.

Bizzybone
01-10-2006, 01:25 PM
What ever happened to sting or Goldberg? Did you know that bradshaw beat Goldberg in a real fight?

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 01:27 PM
sting is scheduled to show up on tna ppv
and goldberg has his own tv show

and nope didn't know about the fight

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 01:27 PM
Sting should be on TNA soon.
Goldberg has a trucking show on the Speed Channel lol
Didn't know about that fight.





Haha WH, we're on the same page.

Bizzybone
01-10-2006, 01:30 PM
sting is scheduled to show up on tna ppv
and goldberg has his own tv show

and nope didn't know about the fight


Is Sting doing ok as far as competing for a title?

Bizzybone
01-10-2006, 01:31 PM
Bradshaw beat Goldberg about five years ago, but they didn't record it due to fan based opinions.

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 01:33 PM
Haha WH, we're on the same page.


heh yep, same time too

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 01:35 PM
Bradshaw beat Goldberg about five years ago, but they didn't record it due to fan based opinions.

Was this a sanctioned match or a personal brawl?

nite-owl
01-10-2006, 01:35 PM
They came 2 weeks after i ordered them which apparently is standard for UK delivery's

Cool I might get some but i don't know whichcones though.:(

Bizzybone
01-10-2006, 01:36 PM
Was this a sanctioned match or a personal brawl?


It was a real fight, anything went.

Bad Superman
01-10-2006, 01:47 PM
Damnit Vince you ****ing tool:mad:

I agree.

How the heck is Styles to improve his play by play when the Coach drowns Style's voice with his pathetic rants? Take the Coach out of the announcing table and the problem is solved.

Lobo
01-10-2006, 01:50 PM
I heard Jericho beat Goldbergs ass ina real fight too :o

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 01:52 PM
Seems the only person Goldberg can school in Bret....ok that was a low blow, I know.

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 03:17 PM
Bret Hart was recently approached with the idea of doing a short match with his arch nemesis Vince McMahon at Wrestlemania. The basis idea of the match would be that Vince would run into Bret's fist, get put in the sharpshooter and then it would be over as McMahon would tap out. Hart politely declined doing the match. He is supposed to be with his wife on vacation in Italy during Wrestlemania anyways.

Hulk Hogan is currently on crutches because Big Show stepped on his foot while they were shooting a movie a few weeks ago. Hogan should be off the crutches by the time Wrestlemania rolls around though. He is slotted to wrestle in a match at Wrestlemania, although, his opponent hasn't been finalized. A match with Steve Austin doesn't seem likely. There's a chance he may wrestle John Cena, but that's not likely either. Hogan's likely opponent for Wrestlemania will either be Kurt Angle or The Big Show.

source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 03:43 PM
Hogan vs Big Show? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 03:49 PM
God no. Angle vs. Hogan?!? I'd like to know why they do this **** to Kurt, and why he stands for it. Why the hell does Hogan have to show up and kick someone's ass every once in a while? And from now on, we will no longer call it wrestling when Hogan shows up. It will be called an in-ring appearance. That man cannot wrestle for his life. :o

Sabretooth
01-10-2006, 04:01 PM
The fact that he was injured from Show stepping on him shows how good he'll look against Angle.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 04:06 PM
Hehe. Yeah, maybe Show can wrestle him at WM 22 and injure him some more. Speaking of injuries, I'm not to big on Homicide wrestling the way his shoulder is. It's said that he needs surgery very badly, and I'd rather him come back at another time then screw it up even worse. As much as I want to see him wrestle Saturday, it's against Roderick Strong and he's a pretty hard hitting guy. Unless of course he's faking the whole thing.

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 04:20 PM
with the way kurt suplexs people.. it wouldn't be a good idea for hogan to fight him..

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 04:44 PM
I don't see Kurt enjoying himself in a match against Hogan. He'd have to soften up his ankle lock too.

Sarge 2.0
01-10-2006, 04:52 PM
Methinks Bizzybone stopped watching wrestling seven years ago. :p

Eric Draven
01-10-2006, 04:59 PM
Hehe, you just said "Conway" and "skills" in the same sentence. A little early for an April Fool's joke, don't ya think?:o

I actually think Conway is a pretty good wrestler. And he's not that bad on the mic. I mean he could do a flying elbow drop. Can Chris Masters do that? :o

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 05:00 PM
I think almost anyone can do a flying elbow drop. Masters would just probably end up killing whoever he did it to.

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 05:01 PM
I actually think Conway is a pretty good wrestler. And he's not that bad on the mic. I mean he could do a flying elbow drop. Can Chris Masters do that? :o

chris masters persona is slowly turning into a power house.. well then again he lifts people lighter than him

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 05:02 PM
source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Before batista’s new injury, the plan was Mark Henry vs Batista at Royal Rumble and Batista vs Undertaker @ NWO

Giant Singh was signed months ago, and is headed down for training. The WWE wants a “Giant” for some idea they have, but Dave doesn’t know what it is

Kurt Angle and others in creative have proposed a K-1 Invasion angle where it would be Shootfighters vs Wrestlers. MMA stars Bob Sapp, Sam Greco, Tom Howard and The Predator are the dream MMA team

Eric Draven
01-10-2006, 05:04 PM
I think almost anyone can do a flying elbow drop. Masters would just probably end up killing whoever he did it to.

But Conway can do it pretty well. Plus, his finisher isn't that bad.

I honestly don't know why Conway is getting buried so much though, he could be part of a great IC title feud...

Sarge 2.0
01-10-2006, 05:05 PM
source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Before batista’s new injury, the plan was Mark Henry vs Batista at Royal Rumble and Batista vs Undertaker @ NWO

Giant Singh was signed months ago, and is headed down for training. The WWE wants a “Giant” for some idea they have, but Dave doesn’t know what it is

Kurt Angle and others in creative have proposed a K-1 Invasion angle where it would be Shootfighters vs Wrestlers. MMA stars Bob Sapp, Sam Greco, Tom Howard and The Predator are the dream MMA teamNow that, I really would've liked to have seen. I think Taker could either make Batista look good, or they'd work well together. I don't know how you could set up a feud between the two now that Taker is Deadman again. It was easier to tell stories as Underbiker, but I think the Deadman could pull off a really good match with Batista.

White_Howling
01-10-2006, 05:07 PM
source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Before batista’s new injury, the plan was Mark Henry vs Batista at Royal Rumble and Batista vs Undertaker @ NWO

Giant Singh was signed months ago, and is headed down for training. The WWE wants a “Giant” for some idea they have, but Dave doesn’t know what it is

Kurt Angle and others in creative have proposed a K-1 Invasion angle where it would be Shootfighters vs Wrestlers. MMA stars Bob Sapp, Sam Greco, Tom Howard and The Predator are the dream MMA team


oh no why are they bringing k-1 into this.. thats not cool.. i love k-1 is shouldn't have to do anything with wrestling.. i just had flash backs of jay leno vs hogan :(

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 05:07 PM
But Conway can do it pretty well. Plus, his finisher isn't that bad.

I honestly don't know why Conway is getting buried so much though, he could be part of a great IC title feud...He does have a nice elbow drop, I'll give him that. And his finisher is pretty cool. I just never liked him though. To me, he is still Robert Conway from La Resistance. And they sucked.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 05:09 PM
source - Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Before batista’s new injury, the plan was Mark Henry vs Batista at Royal Rumble and Batista vs Undertaker @ NWO

Giant Singh was signed months ago, and is headed down for training. The WWE wants a “Giant” for some idea they have, but Dave doesn’t know what it is

Kurt Angle and others in creative have proposed a K-1 Invasion angle where it would be Shootfighters vs Wrestlers. MMA stars Bob Sapp, Sam Greco, Tom Howard and The Predator are the dream MMA teamI would love to see Batista vs. Undertaker. That would be a very good match IMO. As for Giant Singh, they better not involve him with Batista. The last thing that guy needs is yet another injury at the hands of a big, sloppy wrestler. Especially one who ****ing killed someone.

Eric Draven
01-10-2006, 05:11 PM
He does have a nice elbow drop, I'll give him that. And his finisher is pretty cool. I just never liked him though. To me, he is still Robert Conway from La Resistance. And they sucked.

I always thought he was the more talented of all the La Resistance members. From the moment he came out and cut that promo about why he turned traitor. Yeah, he's kind of stuck in a bad gimmick at the moment, but damn, his theme music is so cheesy, it's funny :up:

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 05:34 PM
Conway's current gimmick is what keeps me from taking him seriously. Those pants and that entrance music, ugh.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 05:37 PM
Yeah, isn't his gimmick, "The Conman"? I haven't seen him do anything relative to that since he started it.

Eric Draven
01-10-2006, 05:41 PM
That's probably because he hasn't been on tv in a while. They even had him as a Legend Killer 2.0 but that kinda petered out after he lost to Flair :confused:

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 07:52 PM
Source: PWTorch.com

Batista has been flown in and is backstage at the SmackDown! taping right now.

The plan before when Batista tore his lat was to give the title to Randy Orton but Batista wanted to work though the pain. It is expected that he will either lose the title tonight in a short match or they will do some sort of tournament.

There is no heat on Mark Henry as it was a planned spot. If anything, Batista is to blame for trying to work through the first lat tear although he did it because he was champion and didn't want to cause any issues.

Early word is that Batista is expected to be out several months and WrestleMania is unlikely.

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 07:55 PM
Colossal Spoons is unhappy with that news.

Sarge 2.0
01-10-2006, 07:58 PM
How is Batista wanting to stay on TV for the fans to blame for Mark Henry being a human heat vaccum? :confused:

punishermax
01-10-2006, 08:04 PM
It could go either way, it could make Smackdown look good and intriguing with a tournament, or it could make Smackdown look weak if the tournament craps out not too mention what will they do if Orton is the champ, who will he fued with, cause I think even marks are sick of Orton/UT. Henry, no, two heels plus Henry sucks, Benoit, that would mean the WWE would have to do something right and they haven't lately. Booker, no, again two heels plus fans don't see Booker as a title contender. JBL, possibly a face turn, but I doubt it. Rey, possibly, but I still don't think his size would make him a viable title contender. So, I don't know what they're going to do, but my guess will be a continued feud with Undertaker and a possible fued with Benoit.

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 08:06 PM
Not wanting to be mean but this could lead to a much better WM22 ME for SD
Think of it,Benoit wins the title tournament and Benoit vs Rey at WM22 in memory of Eddie=GOLD for all the right reasons

Sarge 2.0
01-10-2006, 08:06 PM
I'm one of the biggest Taker marks ever...and even I think the feud should've ended at Survivor Series. Continuing it if Orton gets the strap would be suicide.

punishermax
01-10-2006, 08:10 PM
From: WWE.com
One night after Edge defeated John Cena for the WWE Championship at New Year's Revolution, WWE fans tuned into Monday Night RAW in huge numbers.

This week's RAW delivered a 4.3 rating. That's up 16 percent from last week's 3.7 rating.

Edge and Lita's live sex celebration proved to be the highest rated segment of Monday's show, delivering a 5.2. This marked the first time RAW reached a 5 rating since February 21, 2005, when Batista's WrestleMania contract signing delivered a 5.0.

I guess sex does sell. :D

Sarge 2.0
01-10-2006, 08:16 PM
I wanted to say Edge sells, but that proved me wrong. :D

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 08:48 PM
Well Batista obviously sells. 5.0 :up:

I don't know what they'd do with the Booker/Benoit/Orton thing they've got going now though if they wanted to pull one of those guys away and take the belt off Dave.

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 08:52 PM
WWE World champion Batista came to the ring with Teddy Long and announced he was injured last Sunday against Mark Henry. He said that he will not be able to work through the injury and he'll be out because he needs surgery. He said when he won the title, his friend Paul told him to enjoy to enjoy the ride and was said he was proud to represent the WWE and the fans. He said he had no choice but to surrender the World title and handed it to Long. He said that he will return and he will be World champion again and until then whoever has the title is only holding a belt because they didn't beat Batista

What a stupid and selfish thing to say

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 08:53 PM
There will be a Battle Royal to determine the new champion tonight

Sabretooth
01-10-2006, 08:55 PM
I'd love Rey or Benoit to get it. And I like Hunter's idea of Rey vs. Benoit at WM22,that would be the most beautiful tribute to Eddie :up:

Colossal Spoons
01-10-2006, 08:57 PM
WWE World champion Batista came to the ring with Teddy Long and announced he was injured last Sunday against Mark Henry. He said that he will not be able to work through the injury and he'll be out because he needs surgery. He said when he won the title, his friend Paul told him to enjoy to enjoy the ride and was said he was proud to represent the WWE and the fans. He said he had no choice but to surrender the World title and handed it to Long. He said that he will return and he will be World champion again and until then whoever has the title is only holding a belt because they didn't beat Batista

What a stupid and selfish thing to say

Selfish yes, but true. I hope he has both surgeries done and not just his triceps.

Sabretooth
01-10-2006, 08:58 PM
WWE World champion Batista came to the ring with Teddy Long and announced he was injured last Sunday against Mark Henry. He said that he will not be able to work through the injury and he'll be out because he needs surgery. He said when he won the title, his friend Paul told him to enjoy to enjoy the ride and was said he was proud to represent the WWE and the fans. He said he had no choice but to surrender the World title and handed it to Long. He said that he will return and he will be World champion again and until then whoever has the title is only holding a belt because they didn't beat Batista

What a stupid and selfish thing to say
Gotta love Dave.:rolleyes:

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 09:00 PM
Batista could've said:

You only have the belt because you didn't use STEROIDS like me.

**** you Batista.

I'd love Benoit vs. Rey for the world title at Wrestlemania, but it will never happen in a million years.

Hunter Rider
01-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Selfish yes, but true. I hope he has both surgeries done and not just his triceps.

It's not true in a buisness that is a work,all he has done is made the new champ and his subsequent WM22 opponent look bad

Sabretooth
01-10-2006, 09:06 PM
Really,I may not be the biggest fan of Cena nowadays,but Batista is the one who should be getting the mixed reactions for his attitude. I keep hearing in interviews about how he thinks he is Smackdown,and how he can tell stories in the ring and Samoa Joe and AJ just do circus tricks.

I'm sorry Colossal Spoons,I know you like the guy,but some of the things that come out of his mouth are just...suprising,to say the least.

NDX
01-10-2006, 09:09 PM
Well, in light of all this bad news, we will at least get new champs on both brands now. This will be a good thing. I wonder if Benoit will loose the best of 7 and then have him win the Battle Royal, or have Orton lost the best of 7 and win the title tonight, leading to HHH winning the Royal Rumble in the end, leading to him headlining WM again.

On a side not, picked up 5 wrestling dvds today.

Heaven Sent, Hell Bound, the Best of Christopher Daniels in TNA (damn did they chop the tag matches to hell.)
Ring Od Honor - Road to the Title (Liquid 8)
Northeastern Wrestling (NEW) - Renegades Rampage (Liquid 8)
A. J. Styles Wrestling War Collection (Diamond Entertainment)
Bret "Hitman" Hart - The Best...

With these and 16 more Wrestlemania's of the anthology left to watch, I have little time for anything but wrestling.

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 09:11 PM
He should've just been honest and said the only reason he is injured is because he's on the juice and that's why he can't be champ anymore.

He goes out undefeated as world champion, he should be happy about that. He held the title for EIGHT FRIGGING MONTHS! The only other person that held it that long was HHH from 2002-2003.

The guy is a total a-hole.

Sabretooth
01-10-2006, 09:12 PM
I want orton as champ so so so so bad. Then I would have two of my favorites as champs of both shows :up:

Sabretooth
01-10-2006, 09:13 PM
He should've just been honest and said the only reason he is injured is because he's on the juice and that's why he can't be champ anymore.

He goes out undefeated as world champion, he should be happy about that. He held the title for EIGHT FRIGGING MONTHS! The only other person that held it that long was HHH from 2002-2003.

The guy is a total a-hole.
He's probably pissed off and ''oh so mighty'' since after his title reign,he'll probably be gone. He's about the same age as the Undertaker,he doesn't have much time left.

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 09:14 PM
On a side not, picked up 5 wrestling dvds today.

Heaven Sent, Hell Bound, the Best of Christopher Daniels in TNA (damn did they chop the tag matches to hell.)
Ring Od Honor - Road to the Title (Liquid 8)
Northeastern Wrestling (NEW) - Renegades Rampage (Liquid 8)
A. J. Styles Wrestling War Collection (Diamond Entertainment)
Bret "Hitman" Hart - The Best...

Hmm...what's Liquid 8?

Could you give us a definitive listing of all the matches on the Daniels DVD in the TNA thread as well as what matches are not clipped?

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 09:16 PM
He's probably pissed off and ''oh so mighty'' since after his title reign,he'll probably be gone. He's about the same age as the Undertaker,he doesn't have much time left.
We'll see, I bet he tears another muscle while he's running with his wife again while he's rehabbing.

NDX
01-10-2006, 09:20 PM
Liquid 8 is a record and entertainment label that produces cds (Fear Factory a few years back) and dvds. They seems with press the dvds that are associated with World Wrestling Network (wwndvd.com). I have a few dvds from them, 2 NEW and ROH, and they cover other companies, such as an AWA series of shows in Florida, and others. The dvds have been 10 bucks a piece so far, so it's a worthy investiment to discover indy wrestling events and pretty good wrestling. I've seen them sold commonly at FYE, where I purchased mine today.

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 09:29 PM
I need to check out FYE this week then :) .

NDX
01-10-2006, 09:32 PM
I hate this site sometimes...

Oh well.

Since it was leaked about the battle royal tonight, was it leaked what happened between Benoit/Orton/Booker T?

NDX
01-10-2006, 09:33 PM
I need to check out FYE this week then :) .
It might be a good idea to look for the Bret Hart dvd there if you don't already have it. I found it on sale for $12.99, from $32.99.

Plus I found an NWA Wildside AJ Styles 2 disc dvd set that has a rare fancam taping of the NWA 53rd Anniversary Show with 13 NWA title matches. Plus a dvd of 5 AJ Styles matches.

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 09:44 PM
Now would these be located where most of the wrestling/sport DVD's are?

NDX
01-10-2006, 09:51 PM
I found the NWA Wildside dvd in the middle of nowhere among a mix of dvds and games. It was by sheer chance I found it. It was right when I walked in, and I saw it out of the corner of my eye waiting on line to sell back cds I found. But the others cds, such as AWA, NEW and the one ROH was in the Special Interests section (wrestling, sports, etc.) among the FMW, CZW, XPW and UFC dvds. A little searching will get you far.

You might also find a few old compilation dvds among the mix. I only didn't buy any of them because I only had a $60 credit and wasn't willing to spend more than $20 dollars over that.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 10:19 PM
YEEESSSS! Angle is the World Champ!!! YEEESSSS!

NDX
01-10-2006, 10:42 PM
Okay what the **** is going on here?!

Jason Blood
01-10-2006, 10:46 PM
I can't believe that the WWE would put this on their website, rather than have a huge ratings boost when Angle showed up on Smackdown

Angle was really wasted on RAW :(

TheVileOne
01-10-2006, 11:03 PM
Hey, can someone please tell me why Big Show and Kane are still the tag team champions? They never defend them and they don't even ever tag team very much. Lameness.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 11:07 PM
Angle showed up for the Battle Royal and lastly eliminated Mark Henry to become World Champ.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 11:07 PM
Hey, can someone please tell me why Big Show and Kane are still the tag team champions? They never defend them and they don't even ever tag team very much. Lameness.The entire tag division is basically dead. It's sad because it use to be so good.

The FallenAngel
01-10-2006, 11:14 PM
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/1934720That's so awesome!

NDX
01-10-2006, 11:21 PM
Hey, can someone please tell me why Big Show and Kane are still the tag team champions? They never defend them and they don't even ever tag team very much. Lameness.

Because they are the only tag team on RAW?

Superman \S/
01-10-2006, 11:23 PM
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/1934720That's so awesome!

Angle Rocks!

citizenpain
01-10-2006, 11:47 PM
YESSSSS!! ANGLE IS CHAMP WOOP WOOP!! that is friggin awesome. enough of john cena, not that edge is so much better... but enough of batista, angle is a million times better! i guess they're thinking spoiling angle's victory will get more people interested in watching smackdown. i know i will be.

NDX
01-11-2006, 12:04 AM
But what is going to happen with RAW now? Are they just going to say **** it and scrap the HBK storyline? I just don't get it. I give up trying to understand anymore. I just give up.

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 12:16 AM
I'm sorry Colossal Spoons,I know you like the guy,but some of the things that come out of his mouth are just...suprising,to say the least.

What else has he really said? This is the first time I've heard him say anything of substance since the AJ Syles thing.


True, he was roided up but how should that take away from his reign as champ? Disliking the guy for his "less than impressive" arsenal of moves is ok, but some of y'all act like he stole your girlfriends. Vile apparently, wishes more bodily harm on the man.

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 12:24 AM
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/1934720That's so awesome!

So I guess Kurt will have to be a SD superstar now huh?

Eric Draven
01-11-2006, 01:01 AM
But what is going to happen with RAW now? Are they just going to say **** it and scrap the HBK storyline? I just don't get it. I give up trying to understand anymore. I just give up.

Or maybe have one final interpromotional match at, say, Royal Rumble? :confused:

I'm actually glad with this decision. Kurt Angle was going to be relegated to number 3 heel soon (behind Edge and Triple H), so a move to SD means he could be the number 1 heel on that show....

Asgard
01-11-2006, 01:07 AM
So, are the rumors about Angle using steroids and human growth hormones true? Someone in another board posted comparison pics of Angle in '96 and pics of him now and pointed out that his head has gotten bigger which is a result of using HGHs.

Also, on that message board someone posted that Angle's arms looked weird and someone replied that it was due to muscle atrophy, is this true?

Asgard
01-11-2006, 01:07 AM
-Double Post-

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 01:39 AM
Angle's arms have been looking weird recently.


I can't wait to see Angle/Boogeyman segments :up:

da creole kid
01-11-2006, 01:42 AM
Any of you guys think that Carlito and Masters are going to be the new tag champs?

It seems like something that would happen just before the Royal Rumble.

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 01:47 AM
They still don't "trust" each other even though they worked so well together.

White_Howling
01-11-2006, 02:02 AM
Angle's arms have been looking weird recently.


I can't wait to see Angle/Boogeyman segments :up:


yeah its seems smaller than the rest of his body.. but that just me!!

Dammit angel why'd you move to smackdown!! i hardly catch smackdown :(

ANGLE ROCKS!!!!

Superman \S/
01-11-2006, 02:04 AM
Yes i'll say it again...Angle does not suck!

Superman \S/
01-11-2006, 02:05 AM
double post

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 02:07 AM
yeah its seems smaller than the rest of his body.. but that just me!!

Dammit angel why'd you move to smackdown!! i hardly catch smackdown :(

ANGLE ROCKS!!!!

I'll never give up on SD, watch it every week. and it's been stronger than RAW recently. Maybe now, more people will watch it :(

White_Howling
01-11-2006, 02:08 AM
the problem is with the day.. i hardly stay home on fridays

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 02:09 AM
I always end up getting to parties late cuz I refuse to miss SD lol.

White_Howling
01-11-2006, 02:10 AM
i could always download it the day after but then ill end up watch it on sundays

Colossal Spoons
01-11-2006, 02:17 AM
I'll agree; Friday was a bad night but who knows what goes on in Vince's head.

NDX
01-11-2006, 02:28 AM
I'm glad I have no life outside of this little wall of pixels. I never miss Smackdown! (unless I sleep through it, but that happens tops, TOPS 2, 3 times a month).

PyroChamber
01-11-2006, 02:28 AM
I think of all the shows WWE had, my favorites were Sunday Night Heat and WWF Superstars. With Heat, I at least had something to watch before all the good sunday night shows came on, and with Superstars there was actually something good that came on saturday mornings after the cartoons were over.

White_Howling
01-11-2006, 02:29 AM
I'll agree; Friday was a bad night but who knows what goes on in Vince's head.


didn't the network force them to move?