Wrestling

[punishermax]

Wow, two title changes in a week, this hasn't happened since.....the last world title changes I guess.

[Colossal Spoons]

UPN has been dickin Vince around for months.

[NDX]

What was the show they had Saturday evenings from 11 to midnight? It was live for around 3 weeks, wrestling in what looked like bars, and then it went to taped segments like Heat?

Was that Shotgun Saturday Night?

[White_Howling]

Congrats Colossal Spoons!!! time for you to get a bigger avatar

[GLfan]

Any of you guys think that Carlito and Masters are going to be the new tag champs?

It seems like something that would happen just before the Royal Rumble.
I'd like to see them as new tag champs. I wanted to see them continue teaming against the others in the chamber, but it didn't happen. One of them could've been champ but, Carlito got too greedy.

[Colossal Spoons]

Congrats Colossal Spoons!!! time for you to get a bigger avatar

Damn right lol. I need HR to wake up so I can bug him for a Mr.Kennedy avatar :)

[Hunter Rider]

Damn right lol. I need HR to wake up so I can bug him for a Mr.Kennedy avatar :)

I am herehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif......How's this ?

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/967/19sn1.gif

Great news on Kurt,lets hope WWE are smart and book Angle vs Benoit/Rey for WM22 and avoid the Taker match

[3dman27]

What was the show they had Saturday evenings from 11 to midnight? It was live for around 3 weeks, wrestling in what looked like bars, and then it went to taped segments like Heat?

Was that Shotgun Saturday Night?
velocity and yes upn forced the smackdown move the network is trying to distance itself from pro wrestling so they moved smackdown to fridays until its contract which upn has said it will NOT renew runs out

[da creole kid]

hunter rider

GREATEST AVATAR EVER

(except for the person that delivers a Mr. Perfect avatar)

[Sarge 2.0]

I can't believe I missed the new champ thing. :eek:

And in my own place of birth, too. :O

[Hunter Rider]

hunter rider

GREATEST AVATAR EVER

(except for the person that delivers a Mr. Perfect avatar)

You want a Mr Perfect avvy doing ?

[da creole kid]

That would be absolutely.......Perfect

[Hunter Rider]

That would be absolutely.......Perfect

lol,here ya go

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3348/25mv.gif

[da creole kid]

God among men

God amonst mere mortal men.

[LastSunrise1981]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/1934720That's so awesome!

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Angle is champion once more. What a grea week for me. Two of my favorite wrestlers are world champs and I'm very happy about it.

Keep the title on Angle for a long time, he deserves the praise and the reign as champion.

[DOG LIPS]

How can they throw Angle on SD right after they start a feud with HBK? :confused: Is Davari there too? Maybe HBK will follow him and start up a huge merger and make it like the old days where it was all one big show. :D

[DOG LIPS]

I'm going to have nightmares about Edge's package for weeks. :(

Also, I wonder if they are planning to keep the feud with Edge/Flair/Cena going, because I forsee Flair and Cena beating his ass... over... and over... and over.... :(

Or Flair/Cena will beat up on Lita every week as Edge runs off.

[Colossal Spoons]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Angle is champion once more. What a grea week for me. Two of my favorite wrestlers are world champs and I'm very happy about it.

Keep the title on Angle for a long time, he deserves the praise and the reign as champion.

Yes sir :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I am herehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif......How's this ?

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/967/19sn1.gif

Great news on Kurt,lets hope WWE are smart and book Angle vs Benoit/Rey for WM22 and avoid the Taker match

Thanks a lot man. It's awesome. :)

[The Batman]

I think Angle will be on both shows, but i'm glad hes on smackdown. He's being wasted on Raw, and Smackdown needs the talent.

I hope WWE will eventually move on from UPN, get a popular network, and a new day for smackdown. Otherwise, it'll always be the "B" Show.

[Colossal Spoons]

Smackdown definately needs some talent. That's why I wish Kennedy a speedy recovery, Batista a speedy recover and a dozen new moves, a revamped Cruiserweight division, and......The Rock to come to his senses and wrestle again. Fat chance on the Rocky thing huh? :(


I think it's funny how all the last minute decisions the WWE has had to make turned out to be so awesome. Cena's boos get noticed, they send Edge out to relieve him of his belt = awesome. Batista has to drop the belt sooner than planned, they pull Angle off RAW to pick it up = awesome. I say from now on, the creative team use a magic 8 ball or play rock, paper, scissors to determine story lines from now on. :up:

[The Techno Bat]

I think Angle will be on both shows, but i'm glad hes on smackdown. He's being wasted on Raw, and Smackdown needs the talent.

I hope WWE will eventually move on from UPN, get a popular network, and a new day for smackdown. Otherwise, it'll always be the "B" Show.

They definately need to move to a different network, but which one? Spike is out because of TNA, and I think TBS & TNT are out because of the Ted Turner factor, but I guess when money comes into play anything is possible. The regular networks won't touch wrestling NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX. Maybe OLN?

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWInsider, Wrestling Observer

-- Batista is said to have been really broken up backstage over his injury and being forced to miss so much time. He asked to work through this injury, meaning he would be working through two injuries, but management made him surrender the title and take the time off.

We've reported in the past that Batista has wanted to work through his injury because he was worried about losing his main event spot in the company.

Don't expect to see him back in the ring until after WrestleMania

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks a lot man. It's awesome. :)

Your welcome:up:

[Duende Verde]

They definately need to move to a different network, but which one? Spike is out because of TNA, and I think TBS & TNT are out because of the Ted Turner factor, but I guess when money comes into play anything is possible. The regular networks won't touch wrestling NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX. Maybe OLN?
NBC could, they are already bringing back Saturday Night Main Event

[Colossal Spoons]

Source: PWInsider, Wrestling Observer

-- Batista is said to have been really broken up backstage over his injury and being forced to miss so much time. He asked to work through this injury, meaning he would be working through two injuries, but management made him surrender the title and take the time off.

We've reported in the past that Batista has wanted to work through his injury because he was worried about losing his main event spot in the company.

Don't expect to see him back in the ring until after WrestleMania

I'd be "broken up" too. I can't imagine anything worse for a champ that having to give up your belt. I'd rather see him get beat by Paul London that just give it up. This sucks; but having it go to Angle is the best consolation ever.

[White_Howling]

i wonder what their going to do with him once he gets back.. would they rush the belt back to him.. or keep him out of the title shot for a year

[Colossal Spoons]

That all depends on the kind of wrestler he is when he comes back. If he's still the same he is now; they'll stick him in the tag team division most likely. If he comes back with a few tricks up his sleeve, he might get a shot at the title.

All I know is that I'm gonna flip out when his music hits.

[DOG LIPS]

I'm sure in a few months the current champ will mouth off that noone has the guts to take them on, then bam.... sooprizzee! It's Batista! :D

:(

[Colossal Spoons]

Hopefuly the champ will be somebody in need of an ass whoopin :up:

[Hunter Rider]

I'd be "broken up" too. I can't imagine anything worse for a champ that having to give up your belt. I'd rather see him get beat by Paul London that just give it up. This sucks; but having it go to Angle is the best consolation ever.

That would be an honour

[Colossal Spoons]

I forgot, you're a fan.

[Hunter Rider]

I forgot, you're a fan.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif...He is very talented and i think could be a lot more use if given a real chance,Rey has proven that size isnt everything and many have called London this generations Ricky Steamboat which is a hell of a compliment

[Hunter Rider]

Edge and Lita were very uncomfortable with the sex segment on RAW, according to PWTorch.com, although it is unlikely that they displayed too much public resistance to the angle.

The relationship between Edge and Lita never took off, and since the breakup, Edge has reconciled with his wife. Thus, the "live sex" was understandably awkward for the wrestler.

Edge, however, has a reputation for doing what management asks. He did have a limit as to how far he would go with the "sex," but he was not going to reject the angle altogether.

Lita is known as a very private person and has reservations about playing a "slut" character in response to her affair with Edge going public. The sex only further enhanced that character and fused real-life with storyline.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWInsider



Last night Kurt Angle won the Battle Royal to capture the World Title at the SmackDown! Tapings. Currently Kurt Angle was also scheduled to take on Shawn Michaels in a match up on Monday Night RAW. That match is still in fact on, and will be delivered. WWE wants the storyline that started on SmackDown! to also be carried over to RAW, where future will be explained.

[TheVileOne]

I don't know how Edge could reconcile with his wife after that whole public mess.

Plus, if the guy is going to cheat on her...you don't take him back.

WWE really just needs to end the brand split already because it isn't working.

You know WWE is going to make it either Angle/Orton, Angle/Taker, or Angle/Orton/Taker at mania. Angle vs. Benoit or Benoit and Rey would be fantastic, but they would NEVER do it at Mania the way they are now. I bet we will get some form of bra and panties match though because those are SO awesome.

[The FallenAngel]

I really hope there is a merger. That would be a great move on their part.

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't know how Edge could reconcile with his wife after that whole public mess.

Plus, if the guy is going to cheat on her...you don't take him back.

WWE really just needs to end the brand split already because it isn't working.

You know WWE is going to make it either Angle/Orton, Angle/Taker, or Angle/Orton/Taker at mania. Angle vs. Benoit or Benoit and Rey would be fantastic, but they would NEVER do it at Mania the way they are now. I bet we will get some form of bra and panties match though because those are SO awesome.

Angle/Orton could be good. I would definitely love to see Angle/Benoit or Angle/Rey feud for the championship. Hell even Booker T feuding with Angle could generate some great matches.

I was thinking the same thing Vile. They didn't seem to uncomfortable during the "live sex" act on Raw.

I bet Edge's wife was pissed too and rightfully so.

[Hunter Rider]

Tweener Angle vs Orton could be great and Rey vs Benoit could be a tribute match to Eddie,best of both worlds that way as long as they keep Taker out of it all together

[The FallenAngel]

I hope Booker doesn't get involved with Angle. They already had a feud, which wasn't even that good. Booker is below the Championship anyways. It needs to be either Orton, Benoit, Rey, or Taker. All of those guys paired up with Angle would make for fantastic matches.

[TheVileOne]

Angle/Orton could be good. I would definitely love to see Angle/Benoit or Angle/Rey feud for the championship. Hell even Booker T feuding with Angle could generate some great matches.

Booker T and Kurt Angle did feud in 2005 and there matches were nothing special.


I was thinking the same thing Vile. They didn't seem to uncomfortable during the "live sex" act on Raw.

I bet Edge's wife was pissed too and rightfully so.

Well I mean, what is Edge's wife thinking reconciling with the guy in the guy in the first place. My opinion is somewhat lowered of her.

[Sabretooth]

As much as I LOVE Angle (champ? YES!) how healthy can it be for him to be on both Raw and Smackdown,competing on BOTH Raw and Smackdown?

[Sarge 2.0]

As much as I LOVE Angle (champ? YES!) how healthy can it be for him to be on both Raw and Smackdown,competing on BOTH Raw and Smackdown?That's why I'm kind of worried. The dude must be the hardest worker in the business to keep going like this. :(

[Sabretooth]

Agreed. Angle is probably the most dedicated and hard working wrestler I've ever seen and it's a damn shame how he's been treated on Raw.

[White_Howling]

wait a sec hes going to be show jumping?

isn't he staying in smackdown now?

[0neDisturbedSOB]

I thought Orton was supposed to take the belt off Batista at WM22 this year? well now that Batista's been sidelined with TWO injuries is the plan to still keep Orton in the title hunt?

Hopefully Cena will team up with 3 minute warning and kick Edge's ass. It seemed as if Cena was about to make a heel turn the other night on RAW when he told the fans who booed him to kiss his ass.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

oops! double post...sorry

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Sorry again

[LastSunrise1981]

Booker T and Kurt Angle did feud in 2005 and there matches were nothing special.



Well I mean, what is Edge's wife thinking reconciling with the guy in the guy in the first place. My opinion is somewhat lowered of her.

Well a lot of that isn't Booker's or Angles fault, as the bookers in the back tend to tone down the match and make it less relevant. In my opinion, I believe Booker T can still put on great matches.

Well, Edge made a mistake dude and evidently Edge's wife has forgiven him. As long as they're happy that's all that matters. :up:

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Well a lot of that isn't Booker's or Angles fault, as the bookers in the back tend to tone down the match and make it less relevant. In my opinion, I believe Booker T can still put on great matches.

Well, Edge made a mistake dude and evidently Edge's wife has forgiven him. As long as they're happy that's all that matters. :up:

I agree with you about the thing with Edge. He made a mistake, he's faced not only his wife knowing but millions of people both knowing and judging him based on his actions. It's my experience that if you dwell on the past then it will almost always prevent you from continuing on with your future. She has been able to look past his ACTIONS and see him for the man she originally fell in love with.

I don't see how that makes her any less, in fact I think it makes her a better person because most people wouldn't be able to do that.

[NDX]

velocity and yes upn forced the smackdown move the network is trying to distance itself from pro wrestling so they moved smackdown to fridays until its contract which upn has said it will NOT renew runs out

I'm talking about the Saturday night show long before Velocity was even concieved. It used to showed on a local station, WLIW, channel 55. It was on before Smackdown come into the picture.

[Sarge 2.0]

Why do you guys think Taker is on time off from TV? I know he's been working house shows, but his presence is really needed on the televised episodes, as it doesn't feel complete without him in the mix.

[The_Mystery]

Anyone else notice how Cena is was getting boos during the end of his title reign while Batista still blows the roof off arenas when he shows up. I think letting Batista relinquish the belt was the best thing the WWE ever did. So now when he heals up and returns he can lay claim that he was never beaten as champ and can come back stronger than ever.

[The Batman]

Why do you guys think Taker is on time off from TV? I know he's been working house shows, but his presence is really needed on the televised episodes, as it doesn't feel complete without him in the mix.


honestly? thats the main reason i dont care for smackdown...

[The Batman]

I agree with you about the thing with Edge. He made a mistake, he's faced not only his wife knowing but millions of people both knowing and judging him based on his actions. It's my experience that if you dwell on the past then it will almost always prevent you from continuing on with your future. She has been able to look past his ACTIONS and see him for the man she originally fell in love with.

I don't see how that makes her any less, in fact I think it makes her a better person because most people wouldn't be able to do that.

Yeah. I dont think she should be judged just because she took him back. I think its sad in our society where people want a divorce over a meaningless affair. As long as the spouse can stay faithful and never repeat that mistake again, reconciling is not a bad idea

[NDX]

Undertaker as a wrestler is important to the show, because he can still put on good matches (why I would like to see an Angle/Taker feud again, been around 4 years since their last one, I believe). But as a character he takes away from the wrestlers who need television time with his over the top promos and extended introductions.

[Sarge 2.0]

Undertaker as a wrestler is important to the show, because he can still put on good matches (why I would like to see an Angle/Taker feud again, been around 4 years since their last one, I believe). But as a character he takes away from the wrestlers who need television time with his over the top promos and extended introductions.This does create a problem, but with a two hour show, I think if they still booked his character well he could fit back in on TV.

[Hunter Rider]

I think the main reason Taker isnt on TV is that it's hard to fit him into storylines as he doesn't talk anymore except to do those supernatural voiceover things and he's so OTT now that he can't just come out and wrestle some midcarder just for the sake of being on the show
I guess you'll see him in the Rumble when Giant Singh attacks him to set up the feud for Mania playing Singh as GG's son or something

[Sarge 2.0]

I think the main reason Taker isnt on TV is that it's hard to fit him into storylines as he doesn't talk anymore except to do those supernatural voiceover things and he's so OTT now that he can't just come out and wrestle some midcarder just for the sake of being on the show
I guess you'll see him in the Rumble when Giant Singh attacks him to set up the feud for Mania playing Singh as GG's son or somethingIf Angle moved to Smackdown, with Batista on injury, I think those guys could do a main event feud again. Not only do they respect each other, but they put on great matches with each other as well. Guys like Orton and Benoit and Rey will unfortunately be relegated to the match before the ME, but they both seem to handle it very well considering they've been doing it on and off since they were drafted.

[Sarge 2.0]

I think the main reason Taker isnt on TV is that it's hard to fit him into storylines as he doesn't talk anymore except to do those supernatural voiceover things and he's so OTT now that he can't just come out and wrestle some midcarder just for the sake of being on the show
I guess you'll see him in the Rumble when Giant Singh attacks him to set up the feud for Mania playing Singh as GG's son or somethingI'd rather see Taker in the ME for the title, as it would add something to the match, instead pitting taker on the WM midcard against another sideshow freak like they've done to him for years.

[Hunter Rider]

If Angle moved to Smackdown, with Batista on injury, I think those guys could do a main event feud again. Not only do they respect each other, but they put on great matches with each other as well. Guys like Orton and Benoit and Rey will unfortunately be relegated to the match before the ME, but they both seem to handle it very well considering they've been doing it on and off since they were drafted.

The matches they did together were when Taker was doing Bikertaker not zombie-magic Taker
Under those circumstances they played the badass brawler against the technical shoot fighter story and Taker switched it up doing some submission moves
If they did it this time Angle would be spending weeks standing in the ring while trons played supernatural vids and Takers voice came over the speakers,Angle would then have to look scared and the matches would be the old "no sell" Taker deal no matter what Angle does

I'd rather they played him as a legit badass shootfighter breating the underdog Rey and the machine Benoit and taking on the heir apparent at WM22

[Hunter Rider]

I'd rather see Taker in the ME for the title, as it would add something to the match, instead pitting taker on the WM midcard against another sideshow freak like they've done to him for years.
That would be OK even though the angle leading in would not be to my tastes but Taker won't lose so that means he walks out of WM22 champ which does nothing for the buisness

[NDX]

Taker should feud with Angle, but no for WrestleMania, unless they allow Angle to finally end his streak (although that will most likely not happen). I think seeing Angle taking on Taker now would be a good twist frome their previous bouts being Taker is the zombie again. I think Angle could tell an amazing story taking on this character, as well as put on good matches even though both are reaching the ends of their careers. I think it will be worth it, and a good setup for Angle's opponent for WrestleMania, which will hopefully be the winner of the Royal Rumble (perhaps Benoit now that he lost the US Title series).

[Hunter Rider]

Boogeyman ate Jillians face fungus on SD in the Pipers Pit segment

[The FallenAngel]

Benoit lost?!? What the hell? This better be setting up for a Benoit/Angle feud, cause that's just dumb. Booker doesn't deserve that US Title, and he's injured anyways. If Orton went over clean on Benoit, that's good. I doubt it with the way things have been going though.

[Sabretooth]

Disgusting.:(

[NDX]

Benoit got ****ed out of the title. But that was expected, the way the matches were going. I just hope Benoit moves onto the world title hunt instead to sticking with Booker T, since Book can wrestler Orton, Jordan (I do want to see that match), and others.

And I really look forward to seeing Boogeyman's dinner and a movie on Friday. Just seems like it will be beyond funny.

[SLYspyder]

Booker T and Kurt Angle did feud in 2005 and there matches were nothing special.



Well I mean, what is Edge's wife thinking reconciling with the guy in the guy in the first place. My opinion is somewhat lowered of her.

your pretty pathetic. it's people like you thats the reason the divorce rate is as high as it is in america. you have NO IDEA what wedding vows mean.

[Sabretooth]

I also think now would be the perfect time for Biker Taker. While tons of people seemed top be pissed off that he wasn't a zombie anymore,I actually liked it. It showed that change can be good,and that Undertaker needed to evolve. It was also because Mark Calaway was basically playing himself then. I would've liked to have seen what he would've evolved to next.:o

I also think people found that version better compared to what the character is now.

[The FallenAngel]

Benoit should definitely be in the World Title picture. He at least deserves that after getting screwed out of the title. I also think that Orton is above the US Title, and should also be involved with the World Championship. Guys like Lashley, and Jordan can wrestle for the US Title. Even Kennedy, but that seems lower than him for some reason. And yeah, I can't wait to see Boogeyman eat Jillian's face thing, that should be funny as hell.

[NDX]

Lashely is not read for the US Title. No where near it. The guy is limited in the ring at the moment and he couldn't cut a promo if the Rock cut it for him.

[The FallenAngel]

Well, that's true. But they don't have many others to put there. And besides, you have to think in terms of how Vince would think. You know he likes the big guys, and he would put Lashley there.

[Sarge 2.0]

The matches they did together were when Taker was doing Bikertaker not zombie-magic Taker
Under those circumstances they played the badass brawler against the technical shoot fighter story and Taker switched it up doing some submission moves
If they did it this time Angle would be spending weeks standing in the ring while trons played supernatural vids and Takers voice came over the speakers,Angle would then have to look scared and the matches would be the old "no sell" Taker deal no matter what Angle does

I'd rather they played him as a legit badass shootfighter breating the underdog Rey and the machine Benoit and taking on the heir apparent at WM22Angle is only a legit badass when he's tweener. His heel characters are always so offensive and over the top I wonder why he's even allowing it to happen. I agree that Taker needs to get off the Tron, and go back to Prince of Darkness (not Minister Taker, mind you) type matches where he showcased good wrestling ability, and kept the cool character.

[NDX]

As unfortunate as it is, you're probably right.

I've come to notice wrestlers are getting title pushes far too early in their careers. Edge, finally getting his first Heavyweight title (although I don't agree with it, I'm no longer going to argue that point and just go with the flow) finally gained the title after 8 years in the WWE. Cena was only there for 2 years and had no previous experience outside of OVW and perhaps indies. He got the title too soon, as did Batista in my opinion, as well as Lesner (which is why I feel he really left).

I also feel the same way when Orton won the title in 2004. I don't think he was ready to begin with, but the subsequent character change and dropping the title to HHH so quickly just really turned me off of him as a character and he lost my interest and made his title reign all that more insignificant.

[Hunter Rider]

Lashley needs a manger because his promo's suck,he needs to lose about 30lbs of upper body roid so that he can move properly instead of like he has a stick up his ass and then he should learn how to bump and work

[Hunter Rider]

Angle is only a legit badass when he's tweener. His heel characters are always so offensive and over the top I wonder why he's even allowing it to happen. I agree that Taker needs to get off the Tron, and go back to Prince of Darkness (not Minister Taker, mind you) type matches where he showcased good wrestling ability, and kept the cool character.

I think he is gonna play tweener as no matter what he says the crowd still cheer him

BTW are you suggesting Angle/Taker for WM22 or RR ?

[Sarge 2.0]

I think he is gonna play tweener as no matter what he says the crowd still cheer him

BTW are you suggesting Angle/Taker for WM22 or RR ?The Rumble. I think Taker should do a retirement match at WM22 with a returning legend or some such thing. Either that or put over a guy like RVD and end his streak and go out with a big "Thank you" to the business.

[Hunter Rider]

The Rumble. I think Taker should do a retirement match at WM22 with a returning legend or some such thing. Either that or put over a guy like RVD and end his streak and go out with a big "Thank you" to the business.
My ideal run in would be-RR vs Rey,NWO -vs Benoit WM22 vs Orton

The idea of Taker putting RVD over at WM22 would be cool but mark my words Giant Singh is on the way for Taker:(

[NDX]

I don't think Undertaker is going to retire after WrestleMania 22, end his streak then, or even lose his last match. I know it's a courtesy to do so, but because of what he did for the business, I have a feeling he will go out on top.

[The FallenAngel]

A little off topic, but if you guys haven't watched Mr. Kennedy arrive at WWE Studios, you gotta check it out. It's on the front page of the site. I was hysterical laughing.

[Colossal Spoons]

Y'all were talking a few pages back about joining up the two brands again. I thought after Eddie's passing; it was pretty much agreed by wrestling fans that those guys are already under too much physical stress. To ask them to go back to wrestling 2-3 times a week is pushin it. Also I always bring this up; brand unification = less air time for mid-carders. Which was the whole purpose of the split in the first place.

[Sarge 2.0]

My ideal run in would be-RR vs Rey,NWO -vs Benoit WM22 vs Orton

The idea of Taker putting RVD over at WM22 would be cool but mark my words Giant Singh is on the way for Taker:(I swear, if that pathetic oaf critically injures my favorite wrestler of all time, I'm going to kill anyone and everyone involved with the signing and booking of that match. :mad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Just thinking about that Japanese match HR posted of Singh makes me laugh....then cry.

[NDX]

I still need to see that match. Gotta get my friend to burn a copy of it for me.

-- Despite dealing with some unusual physical pain during matches, Shawn Michales has been making indications that he wants to wrestle for several more years. It doesn’t look like retirement will be made part of his plans anytime soon, reports the PWTorch Newsletter.

-- The PWTorch Newsletter reports that Joey Styles continues to get heat from Vince McMahon, whose main issue is that he is focusing too much on calling wrestling moves and not on getting the storylines over. His job as RAW announcer may not be as permanent as some thing unless he impresses Vince.

[Hunter Rider]

I swear, if that pathetic oaf critically injures my favorite wrestler of all time, I'm going to kill anyone and everyone involved with the signing and booking of that match. :mad:

Im just thinking,maybe they will do Taker/Angle at RR and if Duvari is still Kurt's corner man he could be the one to bring in Singh to help Kurt using the fact both are from Arab decent (or close enough for Vince) as the key

I can see it now,Taker's about to win and out comes Singh and powerbombs Taker costing him the match(maybe his life):(

[Sarge 2.0]

**** you, Vince McMahon. Let Joey Styles be Joey Styles...he calls matches the way they should be called. King and Coach are there to advance story, Joey is doing what he does best. :mad:

[The FallenAngel]

If anything, Coah should be getting heat for, uh, you know, ****in sucking so damn much.

[Sarge 2.0]

Im just thinking,maybe they will do Taker/Angle at RR and if Duvari is still Kurt's corner man he could be the one to bring in Singh to help Kurt using the fact both are from Arab decent (or close enough for Vince) as the key

I can see it now,Taker's about to win and out comes Singh and powerbombs Taker costing him the match(maybe his life):(Christ, that sounds like something WWE would pull about now. :(

[Hunter Rider]

Christ, that sounds like something WWE would pull about now. :(

If there was ever a time to use his stroke this would be it for Taker

[NDX]

Come on now people. The oaf only killed one person, and this was a few years back, and it was only in training. He's wrestled since then and hasn't killed anyone. Yet...

Dammit, McMahon just gave this guy a potentail body count.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well he let a convicted killer(Nathan Jones) wrestle, so why not Singh? :rolleyes:

[Colossal Spoons]

A little off topic, but if you guys haven't watched Mr. Kennedy arrive at WWE Studios, you gotta check it out. It's on the front page of the site. I was hysterical laughing.

Hahaha, that was hilarious. Ken wants to make RVD bleed lol.

[Mister J]

Well he let a convicted killer(Nathan Jones) wrestle, so why niot Singh? :rolleyes:
Gotta wonder about that Vince guy sometimes.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

"See No Evil", a movie starring WWE's Kane, has pleased the likes of Vince McMahon. However, its being reported that Vince is not too pleased with John Cena's movie, "The Marine."

The Marine which was filmed before Kane's movie, is expected to be released after "See No Evil." Right now there are no comments as to why Vince is not pleased with Cena's Movie.

On the subject of wrestling movies, it is to be considered that the WWE would like to make a movie on the life of Eddie Guerrero.

[The FallenAngel]

Hahaha, that was hilarious. Ken wants to make RVD bleed lol.Did he say that on Byte This? I missed it. :( I'll just have to check it out tomorrow.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah. Some kid asked Ken what kind of match he'd like to have against RVD and he said "First Blood, I wanna make RVD bleeeeed" lol.

[LastSunrise1981]

**** you, Vince McMahon. Let Joey Styles be Joey Styles...he calls matches the way they should be called. King and Coach are there to advance story, Joey is doing what he does best. :mad:

Oh so Vince wants Joey to say "puppies" and don't call any wrestling moves, but advance a stupid soap opera storyline?

Hey Vince have you forgotten that YOU tell the announcers what to say? Angle has said many times in his book, that you are talking to them through those headphones and telling them what to say. So unless you're getting old, stupid, and senile, I suggest you shut your damn mouth and concentrate on bettering your lame ass product.

You made a step forward in making Edge and Angle champions, how about concentrating on that and coming up with some interesting storylines to begin with?

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah. Some kid asked Ken what kind of match he'd like to have against RVD and he said "First Blood, I wanna make RVD bleeeeed" lol.Hahaha, awesome.

[TheVileOne]

your pretty pathetic. it's people like you thats the reason the divorce rate is as high as it is in america. you have NO IDEA what wedding vows mean.

I'm pathetic?

I know what wedding vows mean you schmuck. Last time I checked, EDGE was the one that violated them, not me. Don't give me this crap. Edge's has already been divorced once, and then cheats on his second wife. Marriage vows obviously mean little to him, so don't you f'n dare try to lecture me about them.

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm pathetic?

I know what wedding vows mean you schmuck. Last time I checked, EDGE was the one that violated them, not me. Don't give me this crap. Edge's has already been divorced once, and then cheats on his second wife. Marriage vows obviously mean little to him, so don't you f'n dare try to lecture me about them.

What he's saying is Vile you shouldn't demean his wife because she fixed things up with him. He made a mistake, just like countless other men do. If you made a mistake you'd want your wife to forgive you, right?

Obviously vows mean something to him, or else he wouldn't have tried as hard as he did to reconcile with her.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm with Vile on this one. Cheaters get no sympathy from me.

[Hunter Rider]

source - Pro Wrestling Torch

Former WWE performer Dawn Marie Psaltis, 35, has filed a complaint against World Wrestling Entertainment with the EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Commission), claiming wrongful termination. Dawn Marie claims she was released from her contract because she became pregnant. All Dawn Marie wants is to be paid for the remainder of her WWE contract, which had less than one year remaining on it at the time she was released by World Wrestling Entertainment in July of 2005. The reason given for her release from WWE management was, "Creative had no ideas for her." Dawn Marie had been in good standing with the company with a track record of always being on time and fulfilling whatever duties they asked her to do.

Dawn Marie gave birth to her first child, a boy, which she named Matthew, on December 20, 2005. Since being terminated from WWE, Dawn Marie has made two public appearances for wrestling-related events. She made an appearance at the Retroslam Convention in New Jersey in October. She also made an appearance at Hardcore Homecoming, holding the key for the main-event steel cage match. Dawn Marie also accepted a booking in which she would actually wrestle in a match. She and Jackie Gayda were supposed to be teaming up to take on Traci Brooks and Lollipop in tag action, for an indy event on April 26th. However, Dawn Marie later changed her mind and had to back out of the match. Dawn believed four months would not be enough time to get back into shape for the match due to the incredible amount of weight she gained from her pregnancy. Dawn Marie vowed that she will work for the promotion sometime down the road. Dawn Marie also has an open invitation from TNA president Dixie Carter to join TNA should she ever choose to.

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm with Vile on this one. Cheaters get no sympathy from me.

He's not asking for anyones sympathy. What FallenAngel said was don't demean Edge's wife because she reconciled with her husband.

I hope some of you don't get married then; because if you make a mistaken and you're in the process of getting a divorce, we'll see how hard you try to reconcile with your spouse. Because I'm sure you'd do it in a heartbeat.

How do you think it made him feel with complete strangers coming up and asking him what happened? What happened is between Edge, Lita, and the other people involved, it's none of our business at all really.

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope some of you don't get married then; because if you make a mistaken and you're in the process of getting a divorce, we'll see how hard you try to reconcile with your spouse. Because I'm sure you'd do it in a heartbeat.

I've already told my current g/f and I'll tell any after her; if I ever cheat on her, I won't give her the opportunity to give me a second chance cuz I'll make the decision to break up with me for her. I don't play around with infidelity and I'd be disgusted with myself.

But you're right, it's not of our business and it's a shame that their dirty laundry got turned into a story line. :down :down

[TheVileOne]

I'm just saying, she got very public and verbal about what happened between her and Adam Copeland.

And once again, if he's already been divorced from his first wife, he cheats on his second wife, with the steady girlfriend of one of his best friends, I question how strongly his vows actually mean to them. And some women do keep going back to cheaters or a person that's really bad for them. It happens.

[Mister J]

Making a mistake is one thing. Having an ellicit affair with the long-time girlfriend of a friend/co-worker is another. At what point did this seem like a good idea to ol' Adam? People love to lump affairs under the category of mistake, but it's blatant. He made a choice. Can't really say he didn't think it wouldn't hurt anyone. He just didn't care.

As far as strangers coming up to him and asking about the situation, I agree it's really none of anyone's business. However, when you're in the spotlight/celebrity/whatever, it's to be expected.

I wouldn't demean his wife though, if she can forgive him, then why should I care?

I definately do not feel sorry in any way for Edge under any circumstances; strangers knowing his business or what. If he kept his wee-wee where it should have been, none of his dirty laundry would have been aired.

[Hunter Rider]

For *****s sake can we drop the Oprah **** ? this is a wrestling thread,lets get back to talking about Giant Singh and what a big Batista fan i am:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Mister J]

I wonder if Matt Hardy is reconsidering his decision to come back to WWE. Since he came back, he jumped on Edge a few times, ultimately got beaten up and moved to another show where he languishes in mediocrity (if that's what you can call it). Meanwhile, Edge is WWE Champ and was in bed, on-screen with Lita's bare tits under a sheet.

Hope that paycheck's real nice Matty.

[Mister J]

Back to wrestling:

Anybody heard the definative on how long Dirty 'Tista will be on the shelf. I know it's after WM, but how long?

[Colossal Spoons]

For *****s sake can we drop the Oprah **** ? this is a wrestling thread,lets get back to talking about Giant Singh and what a big Batista fan i am:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

I knew you'd come around :o

[TheVileOne]

Batista was already pretty old so I'm not sure how much longer he'd have in the business anyway.

Will he stop the roid use though? Because that's why he's getting these injuries.

[Hunter Rider]

Batista was already pretty old so I'm not sure how much longer he'd have in the business anyway.

Will he stop the roid use though? Because that's why he's getting these injuries.

I think he already was coming off them but it was to late,the unnatural muscle development had done for him

It was improving his mobility a bit in the tag matches he did recently so maybe he will come back trimmed down

[Mister J]

I remember in 'Unscripted', Booker T had line about how Dirty 'Tista 'was just to damn big' and his first WWE injury was when he just pie-faced a guy. At some point the roidage has got to stop. They have to be ways for him to lose muscle mass, without sacrificing his gimmick too much. At his age, he'll really need to consider that; not alot of time left on top and health concern.

[da creole kid]

I know I'm kind late on this. But not only was it jerk-offish for Edge to have an affair with the longtime girlfriend of a co-worker, but he did it while he was married to the sister of another co-worker.

THAT IS NOT COOL.

[Colossal Spoons]

I remember in 'Unscripted', Booker T had line about how Dirty 'Tista 'was just to damn big' and his first WWE injury was when he just pie-faced a guy. At some point the roidage has got to stop. They have to be ways for him to lose muscle mass, without sacrificing his gimmick too much. At his age, he'll really need to consider that; not alot of time left on top and health concern.

When he leaves the WWE, he'll most likely go back to being a bouncer so he can't see him becoming too small.

[TheVileOne]

I know I'm kind late on this. But not only was it jerk-offish for Edge to have an affair with the longtime girlfriend of a co-worker, but he did it while he was married to the sister of another co-worker.

THAT IS NOT COOL.
His wife at the time was not Sean Morley's sister. They actually divorced and he was about 6 months into his second marriage.

[Hunter Rider]

When he leaves the WWE, he'll most likely go back to being a bouncer so he can't see him becoming too small.
I doubt it,he has made a nice chunk on top and will be kept for his full 5 year contract so a nice payoff will be a definate and then he can chill with his doe and make guest appearences for Vince and maybe get some movie roles as a heavy

[Mister J]

I didn't know he was a bouncer, but I suppose it's not all that surprising. He definately shouldn't have to go back to that.

[da creole kid]

TheVileOne-

Dude my bad. I misread.

But at least I'm good at math. Colossus!

[Colossal Spoons]

I still don't know what's goin on with that thread man. You math is still screwy lol.

[NDX]

Partial Credit: PWInsider

Since Gillberg’s long lasting title rain, Trish Stratus has became the first wrestler to hold any single WWE Championship belt for one full calendar year. Since January 9, 2005, Trish has held the Championship when she defeated Lita at the first New Year’s Revolution.

After placing Vince McMahon’s profile among the sections of RAW, SmackDown! and WWE Divas on WWE’s website, they have recently just moved it back inside the RAW Superstars section.

Rumors of Jerry Lawler leaving the RAW commentary are now to be proven false as he just recently signed a long-term contract extension with the WWE.

It should also be noted that other announcers on the team, Joey Styes and Coach have both been receiving heat from Vince, but Lawler on the other hands hasn’t.

[PyroChamber]

Partial Credit: PWInsider

Since Gillberg’s long lasting title rain, Trish Stratus has became the first wrestler to hold any single WWE Championship belt for one full calendar year. Since January 9, 2005, Trish has held the Championship when she defeated Lita at the first New Year’s Revolution.

After placing Vince McMahon’s profile among the sections of RAW, SmackDown! and WWE Divas on WWE’s website, they have recently just moved it back inside the RAW Superstars section.

Rumors of Jerry Lawler leaving the RAW commentary are now to be proven false as he just recently signed a long-term contract extension with the WWE.

It should also be noted that other announcers on the team, Joey Styes and Coach have both been receiving heat from Vince, but Lawler on the other hands hasn’t.Damn, it's been that long? I guess this goes to show that they really don't give a **** about the women's division. I know Vince seems to have his problems with Styles' commentating, but I wonder what problems he has with Coach?

Also, if anyone can answer this, whenever they show a WWE wrestler's house on TV I always notice that sometimes they'll have a WWE belt hanging on their wall (if they won one). Do they just give them a belt to keep and then give them another one to wear in the ring?

[Eklypze]

man screw vince i cant believe hes giving joey hell joey styles will always be one of the best commentators of all time him and JR will always be the 2 best imo with Lawler right behind em

[NDX]

I believe every wrestlers gets a belt to keep for each reign they have had with said belt, because I've seen Bret with multiple world titles in the past on his wall, Animal, etc.

I think it also explains why during the early to mid 1990s the Intercontinental Belt's leather strap consistantly changed colors as it changed owners.

Plus we all know they have multiple belts; the 2 IC titles for the ladder match, the broken heavyweight title for the hardcore title, and the replicas they now sell themselves. Guess they were tired of losing money from all the people willing to buy belts buying replicas from outside sources.

[Superman \S/]

I can't believe its already been a year since Trish won the belt against Lita. Amazing how time flies.

[Mister J]

Also, if anyone can answer this, whenever they show a WWE wrestler's house on TV I always notice that sometimes they'll have a WWE belt hanging on their wall (if they won one). Do they just give them a belt to keep and then give them another one to wear in the ring?

I remember an old interview with Bret where he said the guys can buy a belt if they want. The company will have it done for them. Some of them used to customize their personal belts, which probably led to Austin's Smoking Skull belt and Cena's spinner.

[punishermax]

Did anyone else see Mr. Kennedy's entrance into the WWE Headquarters on Byte This, it was the best.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, it was super funny. The way he mocked the Spanish guys was great.

[PyroChamber]

Well, looks like somebody didn't have a good time during the sex segment...

Credit: PWTorch

Since the breakup between Lita and Edge, Edge has reconciled with his wife. Acting in a role with Lita this past Monday night on RAW was understandably awkward for Lita and Edge both.

Edge has developed a reputation for doing what he is asked by management. However there were limits as to how far Edge would go with the segment on RAW.

Lita on the other hand is a very private individual and has reservation about play a “slut” character in response to her affair with Edge going public. The sex only further enhanced that character and fused real-life with storyline.
Looking back on it, it's kinda funny how the whole thing with Edge/Lita/Hardy worked out in the end. Edge is back with his wife, Matt Hardy is dating Ashley now, and Lita seems to be with no one; at least no one we may know of.

[DOG LIPS]

Miiisttteerrrr Keennnnneeedddyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




















Kennnedyyy.

[The Techno Bat]

Lashley needs a manger because his promo's suck,he needs to lose about 30lbs of upper body roid so that he can move properly instead of like he has a stick up his ass and then he should learn how to bump and work
Agreed...I think he needs a new finisher as well, I am not digging his finisher. And it would be great to see a really good manager brought in to help Lashley along. I so miss the days of the great managers. Examples Bobby Heenan, Mr. Fuji, Slic, Classy Freddie Blassy, etc...


-- The PWTorch Newsletter reports that Joey Styles continues to get heat from Vince McMahon, whose main issue is that he is focusing too much on calling wrestling moves and not on getting the storylines over. His job as RAW announcer may not be as permanent as some thing unless he impresses Vince.
If Vince gets rid of Joey Styles, who is a breath of fresh air, that will totally p*ss me off. Joey is one of the best announcers in the game. I think Vince is in the wrong and should realize that most wrestling fans want to hear matches called and are getting really tired of the dumb ass storylines. Coach is pretty good on the microphone and had me cracking up this past week on RAW when King said something to Edge, and Edge told King to shut up and then Coach was like "Ya Shut up King" That had me rolling.
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Personally I think that John Cena should not have been allowed his rematch clause, and made to start back at the bottom of the ladder in a whole "SCREW JOB" angle, this way here allowing new and fresh talent in the world title hunt (somebody other than John Cena) I would love to see Ric Flair win the world title from Edge down the road and go on a three-four month title run and then retire with the world title and maybe go on to manage or do something else behind the scenes. Flair is one of my all time favorites and in my opinion is still better than half the guys in the locker room, still gets the pops, and has the greatest microphone skills in the business. Ric Flair is and always will be the man, wOoOoOoOoOo!

This way here with Flair as the world champion, he could drop the IC strap and set up a tournament where all the great talent on the RAW Brand could compete and really shine, guys like Benjamin, Murduch, Conway, Chavo, Gregory Helms, Cade, etc

[Ultimate_Superman]

I didn't know he was a bouncer, but I suppose it's not all that surprising. He definately shouldn't have to go back to that.yea he was a bouncer out near where I lived I met him a few times before he went to the WWE.

[SLYspyder]

I'm pathetic?

I know what wedding vows mean you schmuck. Last time I checked, EDGE was the one that violated them, not me. Don't give me this crap. Edge's has already been divorced once, and then cheats on his second wife. Marriage vows obviously mean little to him, so don't you f'n dare try to lecture me about them.

your opinion is lowered of her because she took back her husband? if thats not pathetic, i don't know what is. edge's vows obviously mean something to him since he at least tried to patch things up with his wife, after all the embarassment.
incase you've forgotten, "for better or WORSE"

thats all i have to say

[TheVileOne]

Excluding cheating :p .

[Colossal Spoons]

^Yeah, that's the unwritten part everybody forgets.

[Mister J]

yea he was a bouncer out near where I lived I met him a few times before he went to the WWE.

I bet nobody screwed with him or got rowdy. Some of these bouncers, you look at 'em and it's like "*** you. I can take you." But Batista, umm...no.

[Mister J]

Miiisttteerrrr Keennnnneeedddyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!










Kennnedyyy.

That guy is hilarious. I've been watching his Byte This stuff and entrance video. He needs to get back healthy.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWTorch Newsletter

-- Sources within the WWE offices are claiming that due to the Lita-Edge sex segment on RAW, they have gotten the most complaints to their complain department in the history of the company. Vince doesn't really take these complaints seriously unless they lead sponsors pulling out or problems with USA Network.

Some wrestlers have spoken out saying it was senseless and embarrassing to the business. Just about everyone backstage seems to be upset over it.

The feeling right now within the company is that it was a desperation move, and that it's just Vince trying to shock people.

[The FallenAngel]

Personally I think that John Cena should not have been allowed his rematch clause, and made to start back at the bottom of the ladder in a whole "SCREW JOB" angle, this way here allowing new and fresh talent in the world title hunt (somebody other than John Cena) I would love to see Ric Flair win the world title from Edge down the road and go on a three-four month title run and then retire with the world title and maybe go on to manage or do something else behind the scenes. Flair is one of my all time favorites and in my opinion is still better than half the guys in the locker room, still gets the pops, and has the greatest microphone skills in the business. Ric Flair is and always will be the man, wOoOoOoOoOo!

This way here with Flair as the world champion, he could drop the IC strap and set up a tournament where all the great talent on the RAW Brand could compete and really shine, guys like Benjamin, Murduch, Conway, Chavo, Gregory Helms, Cade, etcI gotta disagree with you. Flair is nowhere near as good as you make him out to be. He can't wrestle. Eye pokes, and the Figure Four don't make a guy a wrestler. And he definitely isn't the best on the mic. That would go to guys like Christian, The Rock, and Mr. Kennedy. Flair sounds retarded when he talks. I think he should just retire, before he kills himself in that ring.

[Hunter Rider]

I gotta disagree with you. Flair is nowhere near as good as you make him out to be. He can't wrestle. Eye pokes, and the Figure Four don't make a guy a wrestler. And he definitely isn't the best on the mic. That would go to guys like Christian, The Rock, and Mr. Kennedy. Flair sounds retarded when he talks. I think he should just retire, before he kills himself in that ring.

Well in his day Flair was better on the mic than all of those guys put together and even now HBK and HHH are better than them
I do agree though that Flair should be winding down and there should not be anymopre world title reigns in his future,in truth he isnt helping the IC title right now and would be better setting up one last dance for WM22 than being involved in title scene's

[The_Mystery]

I also feel the same way when Orton won the title in 2004. I don't think he was ready to begin with, but the subsequent character change and dropping the title to HHH so quickly just really turned me off of him as a character and he lost my interest and made his title reign all that more insignificant.[/quote]

I kinda disagree when it comes to Orton. I think what happened was that they changed a heel to a face when the fans loved booing him as a heel. I know I did. Had he continued to be a heel and faced off with Benoit or Michaels or some other "big face" then his reign might have been alittle better. Instead, all his momentum was taken away with a "shocking" betrayal and him forced into the role of a face, then having the title taken from him after like a month by someone who kills more careers than the legend killer himself: Triple H. He should have stayed a heel awhile longer and let the fans naturally "make" him a face like John Cena.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well in his day Flair was better on the mic than all of those guys put together and even now HBK and HHH are better than them
I do agree though that Flair should be winding down and there should not be anymopre world title reigns in his future,in truth he isnt helping the IC title right now and would be better setting up one last dance for WM22 than being involved in title scene's

Whoa, whoa, HHH is works the mic better than The Rock? That's a joke right? I mute the TV when Trip comes out to talk cuz I can just guess what boring drivel is gonna come outta his mouth and it goes something like this" Well-a, The Game is the best-a, I'm the cerebral assasin-a, I'm gonna beat "whoever he's feuding with"'s ass senseless-a, blah, blah, blah-a".

Rocky's the best on the mic since Flair in his prime. HBK has his good nights but not consistant at all like he used to be back in the day. Kennedy is still a new guy and he's already 50x as entertaining on the mic to listen to than HHH.

[Hunter Rider]

Whoa, whoa, HHH is works the mic better than The Rock? That's a joke right? I mute the TV when Trip comes out to talk cuz I can just guess what boring drivel is gonna come outta his mouth and it goes something like this" Well-a, The Game is the best-a, I'm the cerebral assasin-a, I'm gonna beat "whoever he's feuding with"'s ass senseless-a, blah, blah, blah-a".

Rocky's the best on the mic since Flair in his prime. HBK has his good nights but not consistant at all like he used to be back in the day. Kennedy is still a new guy and he's already 50x as entertaining on the mic to listen to than HHH.

I toally disagree,The Rock is all catchphrases and T-shirt lines just like Kennedy,HHH can vary his tone and tell a story rather than throw out cliche put downs that the crowd sing along to,
guys liike Flair,HHH,HBK,Jake Roberts and Samoa Joe are the best promo guys becuase they don't need one liners or their latest catchy line to get the crowd to react
As for HBK,he barely gets much time now as he plays the utility role but this summer when he got the kind of 15 minute mic segments the other guys get he showed why he is still way ahead with his promo's on Hogan

[Colossal Spoons]

By "react" do you mean fall asleep? Remember when HHH came back after his quad injury with his denim/leather jacket. The first thing out of his mouth was "Do you people know just in the who the hell I am" I'll never forget it because my buddies and I still joke about it to this day. I like all those guys' mic work except for HHH and Samoa Joe(cuz I haven't heard any of it). Funny thing is, I prefer the most recent Rocky(vs Hogan at WM; around there) to the old jabroni, poontang,know your role Rock.

Great mic work should translate to decent acting ability,right? It just makes sense. Did you see HHH in Blade Trinity? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz-a

[Sarge 2.0]

Whoa now. HHH is probably one of the best and most intense mic workers in the business. I agree with hunter on this...just because he doesn't spit out catchphrases every time he's on the mic doesn't mean he's a bad mic worker. Hell, did you see when they showed the wrong clip on Raw two weeks ago? He just shrugged it off and said "Hell, it's live tv! I'll wing it!" and he got the biggest pop. Also, Joe's mic work now is better than Rock's during the Attitude Era.

[Hunter Rider]

I guess we just see it differently Spoons,no problem:)

[Colossal Spoons]

I know, it's cool. This wasn't gonna escalate into a fist fight or anything lol. I've tried to get people who enjoy HHH's mic work to tell me why and I always get a different reason. Just doing some investigating :)

[The FallenAngel]

Whoa now. HHH is probably one of the best and most intense mic workers in the business. I agree with hunter on this...just because he doesn't spit out catchphrases every time he's on the mic doesn't mean he's a bad mic worker. Hell, did you see when they showed the wrong clip on Raw two weeks ago? He just shrugged it off and said "Hell, it's live tv! I'll wing it!" and he got the biggest pop. Also, Joe's mic work now is better than Rock's during the Attitude Era.I agree. I remember when he said that. The crowd was applauding, it was great. And yeah, Samoa Joe's mic work is amazing. It's alot better than The Rock's from Attitude Era, but his most recent stuff is really good.

[Colossal Spoons]

Whoa now. HHH is probably one of the best and most intense mic workers in the business. I agree with hunter on this...just because he doesn't spit out catchphrases every time he's on the mic doesn't mean he's a bad mic worker. Hell, did you see when they showed the wrong clip on Raw two weeks ago? He just shrugged it off and said "Hell, it's live tv! I'll wing it!" and he got the biggest pop. Also, Joe's mic work now is better than Rock's during the Attitude Era.

Kennedy doesn't have any "catchphrases". How often can he do the thing with his name in a promo? He's just a really charismatic person and I'd love for him to do one of those 20 minute in-ring monologues that HHH does every so often.

As for Samoa Joe; I can't disliek him until I hear some of his work. I'll keep my ears open though :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Kennedy doesn't have any "catchphrases". How often can he do the thing with his name in a promo? He's just a really charismatic person and I'd love for him to do one of those 20 minute in-ring monologues that HHH does every so often.

As for Samoa Joe; I can't disliek him until I hear some of his work. I'll keep my ears open though :up:I agree on Kennedy, but he needs to crack jokes quicker and more often. I love his mic work right now, though.

[Colossal Spoons]

He's been doing this thing lately where he tells the person he's tlaking to that they have a nice head. I don't quite get it so I don't chuckle but I guess it's his new thing.

[Jason Blood]

I can't wait

Angle V. HBK IV is on monday and I'm gonna be there

[Mister J]

Apparently, I've gotta hear Samoa Joe because you guys saying he's better than Rocky is big stuff. Can't really say otherwise until I hear him. I'll be on the lookout though.

Trips has always been really good, although sometimes he gets a bit longwinded. He's a pretty funny guy if you've ever heard some of the behind-the-scenes stuff or remember back to DX. Rocky was phenomenal becuase he always got the crowd excited (heel or face) and that's what counts. Flair was great too, although now he's not the same character and it's just more comic relief. Glad to say someone else liked Jake Roberts. Gotta through Austin in there too.

[Mister J]

damn double post

[Colossal Spoons]

Gotta through Austin in there too.

Not to be mean to Austin fans, but I appreciate a slightly wittier humor than what Austin had to offer. Just those stupid "What" chants sum up the mentality of his followers. He did hold the crowd's attention though, I'll give him that.

[Sarge 2.0]

I think Austins sense of humour came from his rebelliousness. All he had to do was call someone a Sum***** or flip them off, and say "That's the Bottom Line..." his mic work was limited, but it fit his character and it definitely worked.

[Sabretooth]

I like Samoa Joe and HHH can be great on the mic,but The Rock began that whole thing with the mic. When he's face,yeah,he's repetitive but when he's heel he was just badass. And even when he's face,on the mic,he's awesome.

No one is better than the Rock when it comes to mic skills,no one.:o

[Mister J]

He limited his mic work because of his characters. All he had to convey was being pissed off. He held the crowd, got across what he wanted and entertained. That's all you want from a promo. Back in his WCW and especially ECW days, his mic work was more pronounced (mostly cause he wasn't wrestling).

And the 'What' thing is one of the most over shticks ever in the business; probably only behind Flair's 'Wooooooo!'. People still occasionally do it and how long has it been since he shot a promo?

[White_Howling]

I think Austins sense of humour came from his rebelliousness. All he had to do was call someone a Sum***** or flip them off, and say "That's the Bottom Line..." his mic work was limited, but it fit his character and it definitely worked.


true no matter what he did the crowd ate it up

[NDX]

Credit: 1Wrestling & PWInsider

Today the WXW and The Wild Samoan Training Center announced that one of their graduates, Tommy Suede, has signed a WWE developmental contract.

WWE’s website is also featuring an interview with Chris Rombola, a 6'4" wrestler from Buffalo who was the first worker to be signed after getting one of WWE's open tryouts. He also is expected to be heading to the Deep South.

________

I was never one for Austi'n mic work, especially when the "What?" 's started. At that point, I just turned the television off and went to do something else.

I have only heard Joe's promo's once, on TNA, and I know I need to see more. That promo was chilling. Reminded me a bit of Jake Roberts when he was a heel.

[LastSunrise1981]

Recent crowd reactions to John Cena have become one of Vince McMahon's biggest concerns.

Vince is a man who takes great pride in being able to control his audience, and the continued defiance of this has become somewhat of an embarrassment for him.

One wrestler was quoted, "They tried everything to get fans to cheer Cena, but they just threw their hands up last week in New Jersey," he continued, "That really shook them up."

credit: www.prowrestling.com

"Sources within the WWE offices are claiming that due to the Lita-Edge sex segment on RAW, they have gotten the most complaints to their complain department in the history of the company. Vince doesn't really take these complaints seriously unless they lead sponsors pulling out or problems with USA Network.

Some wrestlers have spoken out saying it was senseless and embarrassing to the business. Just about everyone backstage seems to be upset over it.

The feeling right now within the company is that it was a desperation move, and that it's just Vince trying to shock people."

Source: PWTorch Newsletter


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"RAW ratings rise
January 10, 2006

One night after Edge defeated John Cena for the WWE Championship at New Year's Revolution, WWE fans tuned into Monday Night RAW in huge numbers.

This week's RAW delivered a 4.3 rating. That's up 16 percent from last week's 3.7 rating.

Edge and Lita's live sex celebration proved to be the highest rated segment of Monday's show, delivering a 5.2. This marked the first time RAW reached a 5 rating since February 21, 2005, when Batista's WrestleMania contract signing delivered a 5.0."

www.wwe.com

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Vince and Stephanie will never, ever get it. People may've tuned in to see if it would actually happen, but I can definitely promise it wasn't wrestling fans who enjoy TNA or Ring of Honor.

Vince, fans want to see wrestling and interesting storylines. What you're doing is no longer shocking, original, or funny. You may've gotten some headlines during the Attitude Era when it was new and original, but guess what? It's not 1998-1999 anymore. Get over it and actually produce better product or you'll end up like WCW, which wouldn't be a bad thing, that way you can see what it's like to have nothing and no stupid ideas to give birth to.

[The Ghoul]

if you wanna hear a great joe promo it is right in my sig. I took it from a post. It may have been one from Rider he always finds the cool ****.

[The Techno Bat]

I gotta disagree with you. Flair is nowhere near as good as you make him out to be. He can't wrestle. Eye pokes, and the Figure Four don't make a guy a wrestler. And he definitely isn't the best on the mic. That would go to guys like Christian, The Rock, and Mr. Kennedy. Flair sounds retarded when he talks. I think he should just retire, before he kills himself in that ring.

Are you serious? Flair sounds retarded? No way, Flair has got the best mic skills around, sure he may have lost a step or two, and is nowhere near what he used to be back in the 80's & 90's, but he is still better than alot of guys. The Rock & Christian are up there with there promo's, but putting Mr. Kennedy in there right now is something I wouldn't do, I don't think we have seen enough of him to be putting him in such an elite class.

For you to say Flair can't wrestle is crazy, (guys like Batista & John Cena can't wrestle and they are recent former champions)sure Ric Flair doesn't do that high flying aerial stuff, or is a power house monster, but he mixes it up with the right blend of simple basic wrestling moves, and adds entertainment with the grabbing of the testicles, eye poking, low blows, donkey kicks, back rakes, etc... he steps it up against guys like HBK, Kurt Angle, and Triple H.


Well in his day Flair was better on the mic than all of those guys put together and even now HBK and HHH are better than them
I do agree though that Flair should be winding down and there should not be anymopre world title reigns in his future,in truth he isnt helping the IC title right now and would be better setting up one last dance for WM22 than being involved in title scene's

I would love for Ric Flair to go out on top, he is one of the most decorative wrestlers of this era and should go out a champion, perhaps this should be a farewell tour of sorts for The Nature Boy, give him the world title for a few months, what harm would it really do? Ric Flair isn't helping the IC division because of Vince and whoever else is booking matches, and the same can be said about The Big Show & Kane who are tag team champions but don't even defend there straps. I think that the WWE needs a new booker.


I toally disagree,The Rock is all catchphrases and T-shirt lines just like Kennedy,HHH can vary his tone and tell a story rather than throw out cliche put downs that the crowd sing along to,guys liike Flair,HHH,HBK,Jake Roberts and Samoa Joe are the best promo guys becuase they don't need one liners or their latest catchy line to get the crowd to react.
As for HBK,he barely gets much time now as he plays the utility role but this summer when he got the kind of 15 minute mic segments the other guys get he showed why he is still way ahead with his promo's on Hogan

I agree with what you are saying HHH, Flair, & HBK deliver, Jake Roberts was great as well, and I haven't really seen enough of Samoa Joe to really see what he can do, but each week of watching TNA gets me that chance. And you are right about one liners, people have to learn or distinguish between great promo's and guys that throw out the one liners and get the crowd all riled up

[Colossal Spoons]

Last I checked, The Rock could cut a great promo AND rile the crowd up with his one liners.

[PyroChamber]

credit: www.prowrestling.com

"Sources within the WWE offices are claiming that due to the Lita-Edge sex segment on RAW, they have gotten the most complaints to their complain department in the history of the company. Vince doesn't really take these complaints seriously unless they lead sponsors pulling out or problems with USA Network.

Some wrestlers have spoken out saying it was senseless and embarrassing to the business. Just about everyone backstage seems to be upset over it.

The feeling right now within the company is that it was a desperation move, and that it's just Vince trying to shock people."

Source: PWTorch NewsletterMan, is there anything Vince WON'T do? It's like he won't listen to anyone except himself or anyone with McMahon in their name. When is he gonna realize that there is a such thing as a bad idea?

[Colossal Spoons]

Man, is there anything Vince WON'T do? It's like he won't listen to anyone except himself or anyone with McMahon in their name. When is he gonna realize that there is a such thing as a bad idea?

:coughXFLcough:

[PyroChamber]

:coughXFLcough:Oh yeah, I forgot all about that.:o

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I know Vince hasn't. Tons of money....dooooown the drain.

[NDX]

:coughXFLcough:

I remember I couldn't give shirts away for free for that garbage. What a waste of time.

[Colossal Spoons]

The rotating overhead camera angles were a nice idea. The NFL should use that.

[White_Howling]

all these articles about vince.. pretty interesting.. seems like someone might get fired..

[Colossal Spoons]

Credit: WWE.com

WWE.com has learned that Batista's surgery to repair his torn right triceps was a success.

The surgery, which was performed by Dr. Jeffrey Dugas, lasted approximately one-and-a-half hours. Batista is said to be recovering well and will remain hospitalized for the next several days.

[White_Howling]

whoa that was pretty quick.. but i hope he takes time to rehab properly.. and learn some more moves... he needs something else besides spine busting everyone in the ring

[Colossal Spoons]

Well his back is still in need of lots of rehab. That was pretty damn quick though.

[NDX]

Guess they didn't want to hesitate this time to get him under the knife in order to have him back in the main event as soon as possible. Guess if his lat is still injured, he'll just work through it again like he did in the past.

Partial Credit: PWInsider

Since Dawn Marie has given birth three weeks ago, she has been quickly shedding pounds and so far managed to lose 30 pounds. After Dawn gets rid of all her excess weight she has gained during her pregnancy, she is planning on making a comeback to pro wrestling.

Also about three weeks ago, Dawn Marie made an appearance on WWE’s Byte This before she was terminated by the company. On the show she confirmed rumors that she was in fact pregnant and that the WWE had welcomed her pregnancy and that they had no problem with it as they are a very family orientated company.

WWE’s website has recently posted videos of three vignettes proclaiming that on next week's edition of WWE SmackDown! Fit Finlay will be making his debut.

[PyroChamber]

Partial Credit: PWInsider

Since Dawn Marie has given birth three weeks ago, she has been quickly shedding pounds and so far managed to lose 30 pounds. After Dawn gets rid of all her excess weight she has gained during her pregnancy, she is planning on making a comeback to pro wrestling.

Also about three weeks ago, Dawn Marie made an appearance on WWE’s Byte This before she was terminated by the company. On the show she confirmed rumors that she was in fact pregnant and that the WWE had welcomed her pregnancy and that they had no problem with it as they are a very family orientated company.The WWE always want their Divas looking good no matter what problems they may have whether it's a broken neck, pregnancy, or whatever. Since Dawn Marie was one of their hottest divas and they knew she would be gaining weight because of it, my guess is that instead of waiting someone must have said "Oh **** it, let's just fire her."

Oh well, it's good to know that she's sheading the pounds.

[NDX]

Credit: Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter

It’s is being said that WWE is currently working on new drug screenings that you may see implemented the same way that Major League Baseball does. Despite getting very little media coverage since Vince McMahon made the announcement, it hasn’t yet been forgotten.

It should also be noted that a cardiologist conducting regular stress tests will also be a major aspect of the new testing.

Reports indicate within the WWE, that the company currently doesn’t want TNA to get anymore momentum, and to give up any more valuable talent to TNA.

Reports also indicate that WWE is now whiling to give Chris Benoit a new offer he cannot refuse after being offered a lower contract a few months ago. Despite reports, its being rumored that they only offered him around 200,000, and Benoit still as of yet has not re-signed. Hopefully with them offering him a deal he can’t refuse, it should be much higher now. The whole concept of them offering him more is so that he doesn’t potentially jump ship to TNA.

With that being said, TNA really at this point isn’t looking to seek out new talent for the company due to the fact that they just signed Sting to a new half-million dollar deal. Some have doubted that claim given the amount that is still available, especially when talking about a big-name star like Chris Benoit.

_______

Just give Benoit the money he deserves as well as the title and make him and the fans happy.

[Hunter Rider]

I would love for Ric Flair to go out on top, he is one of the most decorative wrestlers of this era and should go out a champion, perhaps this should be a farewell tour of sorts for The Nature Boy, give him the world title for a few months, what harm would it really do? Ric Flair isn't helping the IC division because of Vince and whoever else is booking matches, and the same can be said about The Big Show & Kane who are tag team champions but don't even defend there straps. I think that the WWE needs a new booker.



Well im a huge Flair fan but i don't think he should get the world belt,he is to old and when not working with HHH has not looked so great in the ring these last 6 months
He really struggled to help Carlito and also didn't look so good against Edge
I would like to see him drop the belt clean to a young star and then have a career match against HHH to end his amazing legacy

[Mike_D]

Ric Flair sucks. I liked him better when he was a heel.

Hogan is better in my opinion. :o

[Asgard]

What are differences between TNA and the WWE?

The only major one I can think of is that there is more high-risk action in the TNA brand compared to the WWE.

[White_Howling]

Credit: Pro Wrestling Torch Newsletter

It’s is being said that WWE is currently working on new drug screenings that you may see implemented the same way that Major League Baseball does. Despite getting very little media coverage since Vince McMahon made the announcement, it hasn’t yet been forgotten.

It should also be noted that a cardiologist conducting regular stress tests will also be a major aspect of the new testing.

Reports indicate within the WWE, that the company currently doesn’t want TNA to get anymore momentum, and to give up any more valuable talent to TNA.

Reports also indicate that WWE is now whiling to give Chris Benoit a new offer he cannot refuse after being offered a lower contract a few months ago. Despite reports, its being rumored that they only offered him around 200,000, and Benoit still as of yet has not re-signed. Hopefully with them offering him a deal he can’t refuse, it should be much higher now. The whole concept of them offering him more is so that he doesn’t potentially jump ship to TNA.

With that being said, TNA really at this point isn’t looking to seek out new talent for the company due to the fact that they just signed Sting to a new half-million dollar deal. Some have doubted that claim given the amount that is still available, especially when talking about a big-name star like Chris Benoit.

_______

Just give Benoit the money he deserves as well as the title and make him and the fans happy.

200 mill.. if he does sign the countract how many years would he be renewed for?

[Hunter Rider]

200 mill.. if he does sign the countract how many years would he be renewed for?
thats 200 thousand

[White_Howling]

thats 200 thousand

whoops my bad.. but he would also get paid for each match right?

[kane9321]

i loved me some dawn marie..i want her back

HHH is a wrestling god..and his mic skill are awsome

[Hunter Rider]

whoops my bad.. but he would also get paid for each match right?
200,000 would be his guarantee,in good years with Pay offs from Buyrates and attendance that could equal 2M for a year

On his previous contract Benoit had a 500,000 guarentee and 5-6M by the end of most years

[Hunter Rider]

What are differences between TNA and the WWE?

The only major one I can think of is that there is more high-risk action in the TNA brand compared to the WWE.

The 2 main differences are that TNA doesn't have long winded soap opera segments like the GM court case or the stupid Live sex thing this week

The other difference is that size isn't an issue for TNA,they push guys with talent not guys that have roided up so that all their muscles bulge

[Bad Superman]

The 2 main differences are that TNA doesn't have long winded soap opera segments like the GM court case or the stupid Live sex thing this week

The other difference is that size isn't an issue for TNA,they push guys with talent not guys that have roided up so that all their muscles bulge

Amen. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

The other difference is that size isn't an issue for TNA,they push guys with talent not guys that have roided up so that all their muscles bulge

Zing :)

[Hunter Rider]

Zing :)

lol.that honestly wasn't a poke at Batista even though i do see him in that category,i actually just meant as a whole that's the way WWE seem to like thier guys

[Colossal Spoons]

It's cool, heck I put him in that category for ya lol. I said before; I only like Dave from a weightlifter's perspective(and his entrance). I'll take Kurt over Dave in the ring anyday.

[Hunter Rider]

It's cool, heck I put him in that category for ya lol. I said before; I only like Dave from a weghtlifter's perspective(and his entrance). I'll take Kurt over Dave in the ring anyday.

It'll be interesting to see when he returns if he has cut some size
I thought he was already looking trimmer and im sure the doctors will advise him that the way his body is at his age will lead to more injuries unless he drops a bit of definition and size

[Hunter Rider]

http://rapidshare.de/files/7196684/KENTA_mv.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/7196684/KENTA_mv.wmv.html)

Here's a KENTA MV for anyone that wants to check out arguably the best pound for pound wrestler in the world

[Colossal Spoons]

It'll be interesting to see when he returns if he has cut some size
I thought he was already looking trimmer and im sure the doctors will advise him that the way his body is at his age will lead to more injuries unless he drops a bit of definition and size

Is it even possible to lose muscle gained from roids since it never developed normally?

[Hunter Rider]

Is it even possible to lose muscle gained from roids since it never developed normally?
I think once he stops the effect wil start to come off,he'll lose the extreme ripped look

[Colossal Spoons]

I ask cuz people like Luger and Hogan will never be "small" even though they've stopped juicin.

[Sabretooth]

That one week where he made out with Melina,either it was the way he was sitting or he looked less defined. I didn't see so many veins around his shoulders and arms. I'm sure he'll look smaller when he comes back.

[The Ghoul]

Good, I ****ing hate body wrestlers. I hated it when I was young watching Hogan & Lugar & it's worse now.

[Colossal Spoons]

^Scott Steiner says hello lol.

[Sabretooth]

But even after Batista is all small,you've still got Masters,Tomko,and Lashley :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Masters is different. He's a body sculptor. Tomko never stuck out to me as much as Snitsky. Lashley is just ridiculous. Lashley makes me with Ahmed johnson was back.

[The Ghoul]

^Scott Steiner says hello lol.

I'm pointing at him (guess which finger). He's 50 & his character is a bleach blonde ******... fasinating.

[The FallenAngel]

http://rapidshare.de/files/7196684/KENTA_mv.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/7196684/KENTA_mv.wmv.html)

Here's a KENTA MV for anyone that wants to check out arguably the best pound for pound wrestler in the worldThat guy is amazing. I need to see his match with Low Ki from Final Battle 2005. Thanks for that. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Lmao@ "hollER if ya hear me"

[Hunter Rider]

That guy is amazing. I need to see his match with Low Ki from Final Battle 2005. Thanks for that. :up:

:) :up:


Matthew Hardy wants to be FIRED

Matt Hardy isn't happy because Edge is champ and he realized he was foolish for going back to the WWE. And what he's doing is showing up late for work, breaking dress code and essentially being angry backstage non-stop. Trying to get released.

Credit to PWInsider Elite

[Mister J]

Matthew Hardy wants to be FIRED

Matt Hardy isn't happy because Edge is champ and he realized he was foolish for going back to the WWE. And what he's doing is showing up late for work, breaking dress code and essentially being angry backstage non-stop. Trying to get released.

Credit to PWInsider Elite

I figured as much. Especially after the whole Live Sex thing on Raw. I'll say it again, 'Hope that paycheck was real nice, Matty'. What did he think would happen, this is Vince we're talking about. Did Hardy think he'd get a legitimate shot to be something now. He was just a quick ratings boost...or at least planned boost.

[The FallenAngel]

Not surprised about Hardy. I wonder if he'll sign with TNA to be with Jeff if he gets fired?

[Hunter Rider]

Meltzers update today:

"--Trinity starts imminently on the main WWE roster playing the female half of a male/female love interest role for the new bisexual Orlando Jordan character."

Oh god

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh godWould someone be willing to buy a gun and shoot Vince McMahon for absolutely no money whatsoever? Orlando Jordan was boring before...now he's the next Goldust?! :confused:

[Eric Draven]

Would someone be willing to buy a gun and shoot Vince McMahon for absolutely no money whatsoever? Orlando Jordan was boring before...now he's the next Goldust?! :confused:

Not even that. At least with Goldust, you were left wondering if he didn't do all that just to **** around with his opponent's head.....

[Hunter Rider]

Matt Hardy is favourite to be the male lover but im really worried about Punk:(

[Sarge 2.0]

Not even that. At least with Goldust, you were left wondering if he didn't do all that just to **** around with his opponent's head.....Oh god, what can't WWE keep there product tasteful for one year. One year is all I ask. :(

[Sarge 2.0]

Matt Hardy is favourite to be the male lover but im really worried about Punk:(Leave now, Matt. NOW. :(

Punk wouldn't degrade himself with something like that...I hope he goes straight to Raw.

[Eric Draven]

Oh god, what can't WWE keep there product tasteful for one year. One year is all I ask. :(

Shock value works sometimes....

[Sarge 2.0]

Shock value works sometimes....Shock value does indeed work...proof? Edge winning the strap. Evidence against? Almost every tasteless segment and sketch WWE has put out in the last year and a half.

[Hunter Rider]

Leave now, Matt. NOW. :(

Punk wouldn't degrade himself with something like that...I hope he goes straight to Raw.

If it's Punk i will be pissed:mad: hopefully it will just be Murdoch as he is already on that route.
Vince is really going all out for the shock value with this one,bisexual love triangle with some interracial thrown in for good measure

[Eric Draven]

Shock value does indeed work...proof? Edge winning the strap. Evidence against? Almost every tasteless segment and sketch WWE has put out in the last year and a half.

It has people talking about it though, positive or negative. It gets noticed. I mean look how much media coverage BIlly Gunn's and Chuck Palumbo's gay wedding got.

If they turn OJ into a bisexual character, I bet there will be a lot of talk about it as well. It could even turn him into someone people actually recognize instead of "random wrestler with weird afro"

[Sabretooth]

Ugh,first Trevor Murdoch becomes one of the cowboys from Brokeback Mountain,and now Orlando Jordan is bisexual? Why don't they just fire him? He's as bland as bland can get.:down

[The FallenAngel]

It just gets worse and worse. Punk better not agree to such a thing, and if Matt is trying to get himself fired he might just quit if they said he had to do it. The only thing shocking about WWE that has happened in a VERY long time was when Edge won, and when Angle won. Those were good. Everything else they're doing is boring. No one cares about soap opera storylines, it's a friggin' wrestling show. And Joey is right for trying to keep it play by play.

[Sabretooth]

Not surprised about Hardy. I wonder if he'll sign with TNA to be with Jeff if he gets fired?
I hope to god no. I say don't tarnish the greatness of their original tag team. Nowadays they'll be lucky to carry a match. Neither of them are good unless they're jumping off a ladder,etc.

[Eric Draven]

No one cares about soap opera storylines, it's a friggin' wrestling show. And Joey is right for trying to keep it play by play.

No one really cares about soap opera storylines? Really? I actually think that's what the majority of the fans care about. Honestly, the wrestling comes second for the WWE. Look at their highest rated segment on Raw. That "This is your Life" segment with the Rock and Mick Foley. Look at what got the WWE around again. A basic story about the feud of a wrestler against the Big Boss.

[The FallenAngel]

Double Post.

[The FallenAngel]

No one really cares about soap opera storylines? Really? I actually think that's what the majority of the fans care about. Honestly, the wrestling comes second for the WWE. Look at their highest rated segment on Raw. That "This is your Life" segment with the Rock and Mick Foley. Look at what got the WWE around again. A basic story about the feud of a wrestler against the Big Boss.By no one I meant me when I wrote that. My bad.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wait. Shannon Moore's comin to the WWE?

And this bisexual OJ thing is....tacky as hell.

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn, Dave's title surrender is really sad. Some chick's crying :(

[White_Howling]

Damn, Dave's title surrender is really sad. Some chick's crying :(


did you watch the short operation video.. :( poor guy

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I watched that too. Mark Henry is on the top and bottom of my **** list. I feel way worse than I should, the guy's not dead or anything.

[Hunter Rider]

Actually there is no heat on Henry,the injury was Batista's fault,he performed the move incorrectly and also due to the way his body is from the roids and previous injury the second injury occurred

[NDX]

Was it reported if the tricep injured was the same as the one he injured previously twice? Because if so, that had to be a factor as well.

Batista was not well, and if he only took a few months off and let the program go on without him, he probably would be back in time for Royal Rumble perfectly healthy and put on good matches from then on. But his stubbornness and fear of losing the main event spotlight caused him to need major, career shortening surgery.

[White_Howling]

what was the move?

[Colossal Spoons]

^Yeah?

I don't see how the previous injury was a factor in this one. Your lats and triceps are close in location but they function totally independantly of each other. :confused:

[punishermax]

Did you see the reaction Piper had when he first saw Jillians thing on her face. Hahaha.

[Colossal Spoons]

I was to busy staring at her.....um shirt.

[NDX]

^Yeah?

I don't see how the previous injury was a factor in this one. Your lats and triceps are close in location but they function totally independantly of each other. :confused:
I was speaking of his previous tricep injuries as factoring into his current need for surgery. Not the Lat.

I was saying that with the Lat injury, if he took time off to heal that, he would not have had to face Henry and be put into a situation to hurt himself, where he did (or was hurt by Henry, either way, he's injured). If he took time to rehab his injury, he could have most likely been ready for the RR, even win it, and still go with the suggested Orton v. Batista main event at WrestleMania 22.

[Colossal Spoons]

He def did make some stubborn decisions by choosing to work through more injuries than he should have. I just hope he takes the time to heal COMPLETELY before rushing back to the ring.

[NDX]

As do I. I am not a fan of his, but he definately has a pressence in the ring that will be missed. Hopefully with this time off for rehab, he will, as stated plenty in this thread, he sheds some pounds and adds a few more moves into his set and put on some good matches in the end.

Anyone else bothered that tonight's Smackdown has only had 1 match so far, and we're 85 minutes in?

[White_Howling]

smack down starts for me in an hour and 30 mins

[Sabretooth]

That Boogeyman segment was......disgusting to say the least.:(

Anybody else curious to see Finlay next week?

[Colossal Spoons]

Well this Battle Royal is gonna take up 30 mins.

[Hunter Rider]

The guys over a DVDR are saying the Orotn/Benoit match was a **** match and the first MOTYC

[Sabretooth]

Orton Benoit was ok,I mainly watched it out of the corner of my eye. The first like 10 minutes was horrible,I nearly fell asleep.

Hell,that tag match with Daniels and Styles last week on Impact was more of a MOTYC.

And Melina is looking even hotter than usual tonight :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Motyc?

[Sabretooth]

Motyc?
Match of the Year Candidate

[NDX]

A 30 minute battle royal doesn't make up for the fact that Smackdown today was only 2 official matches. If it were 3, I wouldn't argue, seeing how long Orton v. Benoit went.

Well, the Battle Royal started off nicely.

[Colossal Spoons]

^^Sounds like RAW every week. :o

[Sabretooth]

Why do Battle Royals and over the top rope type matches always have a million commercials? So annoying :down

[Capt Throbberson]

What makes you think Punk will be used for that Bi- storyline?

[White_Howling]

i rather see more matches than soap opera.. the story lines are just starting to drag the show

[Donnie Darko]

about F'n time

[The FallenAngel]

"You Rock" chants. That's so friggin' awesome. God I mark out for Angle big time. Doesn't matter...he's champ!!! Yeah!

[Colossal Spoons]

I missed the "You Rock" chants. Awesome.