Wrestling

[Lobo]

WTF :eek:

[Hunter Rider]

WTF :eek:

disturbing isnt it:(


Credit: PWTorch Newsletter

-- Stephanie McMahon is due to give birth in late July, right around Triple H's birthday.

-- Shane McMahon's wife, Marissa, is due to give birth on the same day as WrestleMania. This will be their second child.

-- In a recent interview with the Miami Herald, Ric Flair said he has no plans of retiring. He also noted that he is still "very interested" in running for governor some day.

[Mister J]

The Hogan pic...what the hell?! He looks like a circus gigolo. If I had Hogan's money, I would bought up all copies of those things years ago.

*shivers*

[Lone Wolf]

My eyes.....

[Sarge 2.0]

I'd vote for Flair. :o

[The FallenAngel]

I may not like him as far a wrestling goes, but Flair as governor would be pretty cool. There'd be Wooos! everywhere.

[Hunter Rider]

WWE is committed to moving forward with Orlando Jordan's new bisexual character, reports PWInsider.com.

In fact, WWE has already determined who will play Jordan's male and female love interests. Former TNA Knockout Trinity, who recently signed with WWE, will be playing the female, while Jordan's friend Erik, a non-wrestler, will assume the role of the male lover.

Being that Jordan appears on UPN's SmackDown, it should be interesting to see how extreme WWE takes the storyline.

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh god. :(

[The FallenAngel]

Um..wow. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of them doing.

[Eric Draven]

People also thought the same thing when they heard about Shelton Benjamin's mom, and now, some people are actually digging the angle. Same with the Boogeyman.

You never know, this whole thing could give Orlando Jordan some semblance of a personality as well.....

[Sabretooth]

Yeah,Undertaker needs to get back his personality from the Ministry era. At least then he said more than ''Rest...in...peace'' and ''Hell....IN A CELL!!!!!''

[The Undertaker]

Yeah, I'd like some balls put back into his character. The most he does now is flicker lights. I want him lacerating flesh on his demonic alter dammit.

[Mister J]

WWE is committed to moving forward with Orlando Jordan's new bisexual character, reports PWInsider.com.

In fact, WWE has already determined who will play Jordan's male and female love interests. Former TNA Knockout Trinity, who recently signed with WWE, will be playing the female, while Jordan's friend Erik, a non-wrestler, will assume the role of the male lover.

Being that Jordan appears on UPN's SmackDown, it should be interesting to see how extreme WWE takes the storyline.

Oh my god.
McMahon what the hell is wrong with you?!:confused:

[Mr. Socko]

I hate The Boogeyman

Shelton's Mama is great, thats one of the best gimmicks they've come up with in a while

OJ in a gay storyline....sounds really stupid

Kurt Angle winning the World title: best move on Smackdown in a LONG TIME. And he's now going to be on Smackdown only, they've taken Kurt off of the raw roster on wwe.com

I want Triple H back in the main event area, this storyline with him and Big Show is sucky

I'm expecting Kane to face the WWE Champion at Mania and win, Mania is in April, Kane's movie comes out in May, one moth after. It'd be alot better and sell more if Kane is world champ when his movie comes out.

I'm also expecting Someone from Smackdown, more then likely Randy Orton, to win the Rumble and face Kurt Angle at Mania.

err what else do I have to say...

Oh yeah, Taker either needs to show up or just give up ;)

[Superman \S/]

I hate The Boogeyman

Shelton's Mama is great, thats one of the best gimmicks they've come up with in a while

OJ in a gay storyline....sounds really stupid

Kurt Angle winning the World title: best move on Smackdown in a LONG TIME. And he's now going to be on Smackdown only, they've taken Kurt off of the raw roster on wwe.com

I want Triple H back in the main event area, this storyline with him and Big Show is sucky

I'm expecting Kane to face the WWE Champion at Mania and win, Mania is in April, Kane's movie comes out in May, one moth after. It'd be alot better and sell more if Kane is world champ when his movie comes out.

I'm also expecting Someone from Smackdown, more then likely Randy Orton, to win the Rumble and face Kurt Angle at Mania.

err what else do I have to say...

Oh yeah, Taker either needs to show up or just give up ;)

I don't even have to say anything cause i agree with all of that. :up:

[The Ghoul]

I actually think OJ's bisexual angle might work. You all said that Shelton's Mamma was stupid before you saw it. This is different. It might fail, it might not. Just so long as it's not implied. If they show their balls & OJ is a bisexual. It could work.

[NDX]

I actually think OJ's bisexual angle might work. You all said that Shelton's Mamma was stupid before you saw it. This is different. It might fail, it might not. Just so long as it's not implied. If they show their balls & OJ is a bisexual. It could work.

All stories are hit or miss until they are put into motion. It all depends on how we as fans will react to the character change. I'm actually looking forward to this one to see how it will play out on television. I like Jordan, I just thought he had nothing going for him outside the ring (other than his losing streak to Benoit), so this change will be in the right direction, no matter how out there it is (but hey, this is the WWE, should we expect any less?).

[TheVileOne]

Too bad Orlando Jordan sucks competely and has shown absolutely zero improvement in 3 years.

I still proclaim that Shelton's mama gimmick is BS and stupid as hell. In a year people will be ashamed they ever liked it and be like what the hell were they thinking. Its just a short term novelty, just like Eugene, Shelton's Mama, the boogeyman and that whole billy and chuck debacle.

[Lone Wolf]

WWE is committed to moving forward with Orlando Jordan's new bisexual character, reports PWInsider.com.

In fact, WWE has already determined who will play Jordan's male and female love interests. Former TNA Knockout Trinity, who recently signed with WWE, will be playing the female, while Jordan's friend Erik, a non-wrestler, will assume the role of the male lover.

Being that Jordan appears on UPN's SmackDown, it should be interesting to see how extreme WWE takes the storyline.

Dammit to hell,this is such a bad move. :down

They're just making Orlando suck even more.

[Mister J]

I think comparing Shelton's Mama and OJ's swinger character is the proverbial apples and oranges. Mama Benjamin is like a valet who helps Shelton cheat to win. Plus, there's a little comedy with it. Bottom line is its not a truly risky angle. That's not to say it was a slam dunk to work, but it was a possibility.

Orlando being bi just seems like a real stretch. They're liable to have him parading all over the place like some fruitcake. And how is that going to translate into him winning matches? My final judgment is still reserved on how it'll work until we get to see it, but I just don't have the confidence in WWE's writers right now to pull off an angle like this. I think they'll make it campy and stupid and expect the audience to laugh.

Besides Shelton had something's going for him before Mama showed up. There was just no hook. It's something they can phase out without much static. Having OJ be bi is something that'll stick a long time and that he won't be able to ditch (liek Eugene). I haven't remotely cared about Orlando since he showed up. Maybe one of his swinger buddies can make him do something with that hair.

[Mister J]

First, Murdoch was gonna have a Brokeback Mountain-like gimmick and now Orlando supposed to go both ways. When did Stamford become big LGBT country?

[Eklypze]

Dammit to hell,this is such a bad move. :down

They're just making Orlando suck even more.

the funny thing is how that statement can be taken true now:(

[Lone Wolf]

When is Charlie Haas supposed to return by the way?

I heard he would return some time soon and feud with Shelton.I hope they're not bringing him back just for this,if after it is all done I'd like to see WWE push him a little.

[PyroChamber]

Originally Posted by hunter rider
WWE is committed to moving forward with Orlando Jordan's new bisexual character, reports PWInsider.com.

In fact, WWE has already determined who will play Jordan's male and female love interests. Former TNA Knockout Trinity, who recently signed with WWE, will be playing the female, while Jordan's friend Erik, a non-wrestler, will assume the role of the male lover.

Being that Jordan appears on UPN's SmackDown, it should be interesting to see how extreme WWE takes the storyline.Once again I ask, is there any route the WWE isn't willing to go??

[NDX]

An email sent out by Baltimore's First Mariner Center announced that tickets for the WWE No Way Out PPV will go on sale this weekend.

According to the email, Kurt Angle will defend his title against The Undertaker in the show's main-event.

[Hunter Rider]

Observer notes 1/17/05

They have no idea what to offer Hogan now, as Hogan is set on certain feuds and he and the WWE are at a stand still. The WWE even proposed a “Legends” match of Hogan vs Greg Valentine at WM.

Hogan has it in his contract, that no matter where he wrestles on the card, he receives the most money of all the workers (So even if he works the opener, he gets more than the main eventers)

Hogan said he doesn’t want to be like Flair and lower his value by appearing vs midcarders. Cena, Angle or Big Show are still his 3 choices with Austin out.

Cena was not told if or when he would be getting the belt back, and was quietly upset by it, but took it in stride and didn’t raise a fuss.

HHH looks to be winning the belt at Mania

Dave assumes Angle vs Orton will be the Wmania SD! Main event Originally the thought was Taker vs Orton – but that was overdone – then Rey got a brief consideration – then Beniot – but Beniot/Orton was done to death on TV recently

[Sarge 2.0]

Hmmm...is Cena becoming attached to something so trivial as the strap? It hasn't killed his pops, and he's still their top market babyface....HHH and Jarrett better watch out. There might be a new belt hog in town.

[NDX]

The WWE even proposed a “Legends” match of Hogan vs Greg Valentine at WM.

Why the hell would they do that to Valentine?

Nice to know Smackdown! has no idea where they are going while RAW is locked in with HHH.

[3dman27]

how is that?

[NDX]

I'm just over-gerneralizing the situation. It seems Smackdown! has been having trouble finding the right main event matchup.

Although Orton/Angle could be a potentially great match, I'd rather see another match between Benoit and Angle for the world title, and Benoit coming out on top. But from the above notes, it looks like they are dead set on Orton headlining WM.

Credit: PWInsider

Former WWE Wrestler and Trainer, Jacqueline has been in California lately filing a movie that requires working long hours. In a statement she made recently, she stated that she really misses being in the ring and performing in front of a large audience. Jacqueline is currently looking for some overseas bookings and has been staying in good shape by working out in the ring.

[Sabretooth]

I'd want Hogan vs. Cena if it meant Cena being buried into mid carder hell:up:

[White_Howling]

man damn hogan.... he should just stick to his tv show "hogan knows best" and leave the wwe alone..

hes every where like a disease...

and i just tried wwe vs smackdown and 3 hogans! WTF

[Hunter Rider]

I think Hogan will probably face Show,he seems the logical choice out of the ones mentioned
It could also be a tag match with Hogan and a partner vs Show/Kane

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWInsider

WWE has announced in the Richmond, VA area that the 2/21 Smackdown show, which is the first TV taping after the No Way Out PPV, will feature a main event of "Kurt Angle and Randy Orton vs. Mark Henry and The Undertaker. Judging by this, there will probably be a few turns coming up in the next month.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am just glad that the reign of Triple H is upon us once again.

[Colossal Spoons]

man damn hogan.... he should just stick to his tv show "hogan knows best" and leave the wwe alone..

hes every where like a disease...

and i just tried wwe vs smackdown and 3 hogans! WTF

Yeah RvsSD2k6 having 3 Hogans is just ridiculous.

[Ultimate_Superman]

What are the three Hogans I dont have the game or a ps2

[DOG LIPS]

What are the three Hogans I dont have the game or a ps2
1. 25-Year old Hogan.
2. 55-Year old Hogan.
3. 105-Year old Hogan.

[Hunter Rider]

1. 25-Year old Hogan.
2. 55-Year old Hogan.
3. 105-Year old Hogan.

The 105 one is his 1989 look Right ?

[DOG LIPS]

The 105 one is his 1989 look Right ?
Correct.

[Mister J]

What are the three Hogans I dont have the game or a ps2

There are 3 unlockable Hogan characters. 80's Hogan, nWo Hogan and Hogan when he most recently came back. It just sucks. That's waaaay better than having other guys like Animal Steele, Superstar Billy Graham or Rick Rude. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Ultimate_Superman]

God I miss the NWO they ruled WCW. I loved the night they took over Monday Night Nitro and had their logo on it and everything. Ah those were the days.

[Hunter Rider]

Correct.

He still has another 28 years then before he hist the Hogan mandated retirement age

[DOG LIPS]

He still has another 28 years then before he hits the Hogan mandated retirement age
Yeah, but he can renew at that time for another 23 years, it's in his contract.

[Lobo]

Hunter dont forget what i asked please :)

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, but he can renew at that time for another 23 years, it's in his contract.

Yep along with his "I must win and be paid the most" clause

[Hunter Rider]

Hunter dont forget what i asked please :)

:eek: sorry man,damn 300MB Misawa matches:O

gimme 5 mins:up:

[Lobo]

sure I got 20 minutes left on break YIM?

[Sabretooth]

All we needed was classic Hogan and the badass nWo Hogan,I couldn't care less about the Hogan that beat Michaels at Summerslam :down

[Sabretooth]

New wrestling promotion to debut on MTV




PWInsider reports that MTV has ordered a pilot of a new professional wrestling promotion to be operated in conjunction with Big Vision Entertainment.

The pilot will be taped next month in Los Angeles.

A press release regarding the show is forthcoming. The venue will only hold a few hundred fans and will capture the "intimate" feel of smaller pro wrestling events.

[The Ghoul]

God I miss the NWO they ruled WCW. I loved the night they took over Monday Night Nitro and had their logo on it and everything. Ah those were the days.

I thought that, but I read a thing on wrestlecrap & it makes you retink it

nWo Nitro: Ever wanted to see how the set of a wrestling show is built? Then this is the show for you! Thrill to Buff Bagwell yelling at the ring crew! Gasp as Scott Norton spends ten minutes trying to knock over the WCW sign with a sledge hammer! And warm your heart as Eric Bischoff sings CHRISTMAS CAROLS! It doesn't get much more bizarre than this!

[The Ghoul]

New wrestling promotion to debut on MTV




PWInsider reports that MTV has ordered a pilot of a new professional wrestling promotion to be operated in conjunction with Big Vision Entertainment.

The pilot will be taped next month in Los Angeles.

A press release regarding the show is forthcoming. The venue will only hold a few hundred fans and will capture the "intimate" feel of smaller pro wrestling events.

****! Can't I have anything without MTV jerking off all over it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, JBL makes Lashley look really small. Not to mention the fact that he just whooped his arse through the whole match.

And apparently Angle is a SUPER-face. Not where I wanted him to go.

[Jason Blood]

New wrestling promotion to debut on MTV




PWInsider reports that MTV has ordered a pilot of a new professional wrestling promotion to be operated in conjunction with Big Vision Entertainment.

The pilot will be taped next month in Los Angeles.

A press release regarding the show is forthcoming. The venue will only hold a few hundred fans and will capture the "intimate" feel of smaller pro wrestling events.

Too bad MTV isn't smart enough to just buy ROH

I wouldn't mind watching MTV just to see ROH

[TheVileOne]

Too bad MTV isn't smart enough to just buy ROH

I wouldn't mind watching MTV just to see ROH
I pray to god that never happens. Plus, I know Gabe Saplonsky would never do that. ROH is all that is right with professional wrestling. Most importantly is that its indepedent. If MTV buys them out, then its game over.

It would also mean all the TNA people in ROH would either have to leave TNA or ROH and that would suck.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hm, how old is this Finlay character? He doesn't look too young at all.

[Hunter Rider]

Hm, how old is this Finlay character? He doesn't look too young at all.

He's 47

[Donnie Darko]

he's old... he was in WCW in the mid-90s, too. The Belfast Bruiser, Fit Finlay, I believe.

[The FallenAngel]

Finlay actually look pretty good in the ring. Will have to keep watching him to see how he does.

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't think he looked too special. He was just lumbering around, for once in Matt Hardy's career, he had to carry somebody.

[punishermax]

I like Finlays style, Hardy didn't carry him, thats impossible for a Hardy to do. Anyone here read the "Death of WCW" if you haven't you should its one of the best books I've ever read.

[NDX]

I thought Finley could have looked better than he did, but for what it was it was an enjoyable match. I just hope they put him in there with wrestlers like Regal, Benoit and Burchill.

Now, can summon explain to me why WWE hired Bill Alfonso and dressed him like Simon Dean? I was happy not having to hear Alfonso anymore, and now this. Might have to change the channel during Gymini matches.

[Donnie Darko]

I freakin love Randy Orton. They really need to let him go over some people cleanly. He could be a great arrogant, oldschool heel.

[Colossal Spoons]

Definately. That was a beautiful RKO.

[NDX]

Partial Source: PWInsider.com

Jim Hellwig (aka The Ultimate Warrior) and now "legally" known as Warrior Warrior, filed a lawsuit against World Wrestling Entertainment in The Superior Court of Arizona on January 9. Warrior is filing over the representation of his wrestling career with the then WWF in the new "The Self Destruction of The Ultimate Warrior" DVD release that shows Vince McMahon and many current and former WWE stars running down Warrior. We hope to have more information about this soon.


So far Smackdown has been pretty entertaining, except for Simon Dean. The Orton/Jordan match I found to be quite entertaining.

[Jason Blood]

I ended up passing Smackdown to watch Stargate(s)

[Mister J]

Warrior, or Crazy Man as he's known in some circles, needs to get over himself. Seems those we're all personal opinions and recounts to me. Nobody said he raped chickens or anything. They said he was unprofessional and generally disliked. Seems pretty spot on to me. He was offered to chance to refute the stuff (on DVD with a tidy profit for Vince, of course) and he refused. Get over yourself, Jimbo.

Good scoop NDX.

[Capt Throbberson]

Is it me, or did they change Daivari's music since he came to smackdown? Was it because of the Hassan thing

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah that was new music for Daivari.

[Eric Draven]

I kind of like it. It finally lets him be his own person from Hassan, because let's face it, that was Hassan's theme....

I really hope they push Davari on SD. US title maybe?

[Hunter Rider]

I kind of like it. It finally lets him be his own person from Hassan, because let's face it, that was Hassan's theme....

I really hope they push Davari on SD. US title maybe?

Cruiserwieght

[Hunter Rider]

Definately. That was a beautiful RKO.

Any sign of Orlando's new gimmick ?

[Eric Draven]

Cruiserwieght

I actually think he could be go for the US title. And it looks like he bulked up a lot from when he was just managing Hassan.....

[Hunter Rider]

I actually think he could be go for the US title. And it looks like he bulked up a lot from when he was just managing Hassan.....

Why every other small guy and not Paul London ?:(

[Eric Draven]

Because London and Kendrick make a great tag team right now :up:

And not every small guy, just Rey and Davari, who seems to almost be in main event status now anyways.

Plus, Davari has a win over Shawn Michaels in his very first match :o

[Capt Throbberson]

Why every other small guy and not Paul London ?:(
I'd like to see him as one half of the tag champs

but that's not happening

[Hunter Rider]

Because London and Kendrick make a great tag team right now :up:

And not every small guy, just Rey and Davari, who seems to almost be in main event status now anyways.

Plus, Davari has a win over Shawn Michaels in his very first match :o

They make a jobbing tag team right now:(
And plus Carlito and HBK aren't much bigger than London and he is much better than Duvari in the ring IMO

oooooooo cheap shot:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Hunter Rider]

I'd like to see him as one half of the tag champs

but that's not happening

Yeah i was hoping for a very entertaining MNM vs Spanky/London feud but alas...........:(
did they lose clean tonight ?

[Eric Draven]

They make a jobbing tag team right now:(
And plus Carlito and HBK aren't much bigger than London and he is much better than Duvari in the ring IMO

oooooooo cheap shot:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

But Davari has the Magic Carpet. And as a heel, he's not bad on the mic.

Oh, and not only does he have a win over Michaels, but he has a (DQ) win over Kurt Angle as well. I mean, honestly, screw US title, this guy is World Championship material :D :p

[Colossal Spoons]

Any sign of Orlando's new gimmick ?

Nope, he was pretty hetero tonight.

[NDX]

I have a feeling Orlando's new gimmick will start next week as a result of this loss. I have no reasoning for it, but this is what I feel is coming.

[Hunter Rider]

But Davari has the Magic Carpet. And as a heel, he's not bad on the mic.

Oh, and not only does he have a win over Michaels, but he has a (DQ) win over Kurt Angle as well. I mean, honestly, screw US title, this guy is World Championship material :D :p

He is good on the mic but i thought the magic carpet was only for OVW ?:confused:

Ohhhhhh maybe he can unify the belts at Mania and go over Angle and HH in the one night:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Eric Draven]

He is good on the mic but i thought the magic carpet was only for OVW ?:confused:

Ohhhhhh maybe he can unify the belts at Mania and go over Angle and HH in the one night:mad: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

I remember him bringing out a carpet for one match he had with Hassan, but he never did the move :( Maybe they might do that kind of move on SD....:confused:

Hey, if he could pin Shawn Michaels, I'm sure he could beat Triple H as well ;)

[Jason Blood]

I have a feeling Orlando's new gimmick will start next week as a result of this loss. I have no reasoning for it, but this is what I feel is coming.
new gimmick?

I didn't hear anything about this

[Hunter Rider]

I remember him bringing out a carpet for one match he had with Hassan, but he never did the move :( Maybe they might do that kind of move on SD....:confused:

Hey, if he could pin Shawn Michaels, I'm sure he could beat Triple H as well ;)

Well it would add to his character i suppose,although he seems to be just managing for now

Oh how i miss Kayfabe:( http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Hunter Rider]

new gimmick?

I didn't hear anything about this

It was talked about in here,anyway he is gonna be playing a bisexual

[LastSunrise1981]

You know, I respect HHH for not hogging up the title scene. But why couldn't he use his powers to bury Mark Henry?

I mean seriously, no matter what they do to get him over, ultimately he fails because no one cares about him or the character. He's not a good wrestler, not good on the mic, and is only there because of Vince's hard on fetish for big wrestlers.

Seriously, why not bury guys who are worthless? Mark Henry, Cena, Snitsky(Is entertaining sometimes), and I'm definitely kind of worried about that new big guy they're bringing in.

[The Ghoul]

I think a good idea for Jordan is to have Trinity start managing him & out of no where this flamboyan gay guy going all "you stole my man ho." & instead of a swinging Jordan you have a bisexual love triangle... Plus my gaydar kinda goes up with Jordan... & Lashley... & Skipper (I swear it's not a black thing I just have good read on people & they come of as a little gay.) Skipper & Lashley both have femm voices if you hear them speak. And OJ just comes off as a little gay... maybe it's the hair because I didn't think about it when he was bald.

[Sabretooth]

I actually think he could be go for the US title. And it looks like he bulked up a lot from when he was just managing Hassan.....
I'd prefer him and Rey alternate,but mainly stay in the cruiserweight division. Then have Carlito drafted to SD! and become to the cruiserweight division what Samoa Joe is to the X division

[Hunter Rider]

I think a good idea for Jordan is to have Trinity start managing him & out of no where this flamboyan gay guy going all "you stole my man ho." & instead of a swinging Jordan you have a bisexual love triangle... Plus my gaydar kinda goes up with Jordan... & Lashley... & Skipper (I swear it's not a black thing I just have good read on people & they come of as a little gay.) Skipper & Lashley both have femm voices if you hear them speak. And OJ just comes off as a little gay... maybe it's the hair because I didn't think about it when he was bald.

Jordan is gay

[Sabretooth]

I think a good idea for Jordan is to have Trinity start managing him & out of no where this flamboyan gay guy going all "you stole my man ho." & instead of a swinging Jordan you have a bisexual love triangle... Plus my gaydar kinda goes up with Jordan... & Lashley... & Skipper (I swear it's not a black thing I just have good read on people & they come of as a little gay.) Skipper & Lashley both have femm voices if you hear them speak. And OJ just comes off as a little gay... maybe it's the hair because I didn't think about it when he was bald.
Why use Trinity when they can just use Trinity AND Trish Stratus,I'm pretty sure she's a lesbian,I keep hearing tons of rumors about how she and Lilian like to get to know each other..

Holy crap! Bisexual rectangle! IT'S GENIUS! :eek:

[NDX]

Why use Trinity when they can just use Trinity AND Trish Stratus,I'm pretty sure she's a lesbian,I keep hearing tons of rumors about how she and Lilian like to get to know each other..

Holy crap! Bisexual rectangle! IT'S GENIUS! :eek:

Absolutely brilliant! Someone get in contact with Vince now!

[Jason Blood]

I'd prefer him and Rey alternate,but mainly stay in the cruiserweight division. Then have Carlito drafted to SD! and become to the cruiserweight division what Samoa Joe is to the X division
he's 14 pounds over the limit

Matt Hardy on the other hand...

[Donnie Darko]

You know, I respect HHH for not hogging up the title scene. But why couldn't he use his powers to bury Mark Henry?

I mean seriously, no matter what they do to get him over, ultimately he fails because no one cares about him or the character. He's not a good wrestler, not good on the mic, and is only there because of Vince's hard on fetish for big wrestlers.

Seriously, why not bury guys who are worthless? Mark Henry, Cena, Snitsky(Is entertaining sometimes), and I'm definitely kind of worried about that new big guy they're bringing in.

seriously, I miss wrestling for a few weeks, and thefirst thing I see is Mark Henry, who was a low-midcarder last time I saw him, in the main event picture. It's really stupid. I can't believe he is the #1 contender on a show that has Mysterio, ORTON, Benoit, JBL, etc. I'm not buying Mark Henry as a main eventer. Oh well, at least I have Angle as the champ.

[Jason Blood]

Jordan is gay
Wow

now he's REALLY out of JBL's Cabinet

[The Ghoul]

Why use Trinity when they can just use Trinity AND Trish Stratus,I'm pretty sure she's a lesbian,I keep hearing tons of rumors about how she and Lilian like to get to know each other..

Holy crap! Bisexual rectangle! IT'S GENIUS! :eek:

Knowing Vince the angle will end in a mass orgy in the ring... http://images.usatoday.com/money/_photos/2004/03/08/guinness-thumb.jpg BRILLIANT!!!!!1

[Eric Draven]

You know, I respect HHH for not hogging up the title scene. But why couldn't he use his powers to bury Mark Henry?

I mean seriously, no matter what they do to get him over, ultimately he fails because no one cares about him or the character. He's not a good wrestler, not good on the mic, and is only there because of Vince's hard on fetish for big wrestlers.

Seriously, why not bury guys who are worthless? Mark Henry, Cena, Snitsky(Is entertaining sometimes), and I'm definitely kind of worried about that new big guy they're bringing in.

Simple. The WWE spent a ****load of money trying to sign Mark Henry about 10 years ago and they want to get their money's worth. Hence the continual pushes Henry gets.

[LastSunrise1981]

Simple. The WWE spent a ****load of money trying to sign Mark Henry about 10 years ago and they want to get their money's worth. Hence the continual pushes Henry gets.

Can always count on Vince for knowing and understanding talent. :O

[Jason Blood]

does anyone know if Kazarian is going to go back to TNA

he's one of my favorite wrestlers

[NDX]

does anyone know if Kazarian is going to go back to TNA

he's one of my favorite wrestlers

Doesn't look like he plans to go back to TNA any time soon.

http://frankiekazarian.temp.powweb.com/index2.shtml The bookings page makes no mention of TNA.

[Jason Blood]

Doesn't look like he plans to go back to TNA any time soon.

http://frankiekazarian.temp.powweb.com/index2.shtml The bookings page makes no mention of TNA.

His no compete clause allows him to work for any fed that doesn't have a televised show

I don't know if it's up though...

[SLYspyder]

you guys are just attacking mark henry for no ****in reason. he comes in all the time and does good work, he jobs to people all the time. and yet, still no respect.

[Mister J]

you guys are just attacking mark henry for no ****in reason. he comes in all the time and does good work, he jobs to people all the time. and yet, still no respect.

Are you kidding? Do you not remember Henry's previous WWE runs. There's a reason he never really got over regardless of whatever gimmick they gave him...


HE SUCKS.

[TheVileOne]

Right now really isn't the best time for Frankie to go back to TNA IMHO. Their roster is a little crowded and I don't see a good spot on it for him. I know TNA wants him back but I don't know what's going with that whole deal.

Frankie going to WWE in the first place was a mistake. Especially when he's gone so quickly anyway.

[NDX]

Well Frankie rightfully requested his release after WWE hiring him and placing him in OVW limbo. That's why his tenure there was so short. He felt he was better than OVW and he was. The few matches he had on Velocity were top quality and he was wasted by the company who could have really turned around the Cruiserweight Division with him, especially coming out of TNA's X-Division. It was not a bad decision on Frankie's part but on the WWE's part.

[TheVileOne]

Well Frankie rightfully requested his release after WWE hiring him and placing him in OVW limbo. That's why his tenure there was so short. He felt he was better than OVW and he was. The few matches he had on Velocity were top quality and he was wasted by the company who could have really turned around the Cruiserweight Division with him, especially coming out of TNA's X-Division. It was not a bad decision on Frankie's part but on the WWE's part.
I don't know about all that. I know he left because he wanted to. The WWE is never going to have a legitimate cruiserweight division. Ever. Frankie even thinking that would happen is a joke.

[NDX]

Well for many people WWE in their only goal even if they are lost to Velocity and Heat tapings. Perhaps Frankie thought that he could go farther in WWE than just Cruiserweight division because of the talent he showcased in TNA and the indys, being that is what got WWE interesting in the first place. When he got to WWE he found out it was not all it was cracked up to be and went on his way.

It was a failed experiement in the end where everyone, in my opinion.

[Hunter Rider]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/MISS_ASHLEY_S/cenalost.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9775/httpimg265imageshackusimg26514.gif

[The Ghoul]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/MISS_ASHLEY_S/cenalost.jpg

That could have two meanings. Either Cena is reacting like a like a pathetic house pet, or John Cena fans are pussies.

[Twitch]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9775/httpimg265imageshackusimg26514.gif

Wow, :eek:

Who the hell is that guy and can I get the match at the Death Valley fourms?

[Hunter Rider]

Apparently this guy has signed with WWE

http://www.shawnspears.com/photos.html

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4191/02jz0t36968cl.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/index.php)

[Knightsaber Priss]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9775/httpimg265imageshackusimg26514.gif

Is that Ares from TNA?

[Hunter Rider]

Is that Ares from TNA?

No,it's the NOAH GHC jr champion KENTA,the guy getting hit is Kanemura the guy he took the belt off

[Knightsaber Priss]

At least we can agree that none of them beat the Hart Foundation. :o

I bet the Road Warriors in their prime would have beat the Hart Foundation. You see, way back in the AWA they were notorious for not following kayfabe and jobbing. They would literally go out there and pound the crap out of their opponents regardless of whether or not Verne Gagne wanted them to win the match or not.

[Knightsaber Priss]

No,it's the NOAH GHC jr champion KENTA,the guy getting hit is Kanemura the guy he took the belt off

He kinda resembles Ares in a way though.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I was actually pretty upset over what they said last impact. Ask TheFallenAngel. I really like the Dudleys, but they'll never be the Road Warriors.

Well, care of the royal screwing the Dudley's got, the Road Warriors title record is untouched. But yeah, the Dudleys might be a good tag team, but they are not the Road Warriors. Why is it that WWE rallyed to get the Road Warriors for the longest time but once they got them they mishandled them? With Heidenreich gone now, maybe Animal can go back to basics and find himself a partner worthy of replacing Hawk, although Hawk was so unique that's a tough thing to do. But there must be some big lug of a guy out there who can fly in the ring and is remiscent of Hawk's ring style. It might be a tough sell though since the friendship between the two, they were the closest thing to brothers that two nonrelated men could be, would be pretty hard to replicate. But the Road Warrior fan in me just cries out that I do not want to see the Road Warrior legacy end like this!

[DOG LIPS]

Goooojjiirrraaaaaaa!!!

[Knightsaber Priss]

Goooojjiirrraaaaaaa!!!

Dooooooooogggggg Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppppppppssssss!! !!!!!!!!!

[The Ghoul]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9775/httpimg265imageshackusimg26514.gif

i dont see it i just get the imageshack frog

[Sarge 2.0]

I've been reading Raven's Logs on his website (www.theraveneffect.com) for the past couple of minutes, and I had no idea he had that much heat with Joey Styles. That, and he hasn't made any comments about what his role in TNA is at the moment. The last part suprised me, because he's usually not shy about breaking kayfabe when his fans bug him enough.

[Hunter Rider]

i dont see it i just get the imageshack frog

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9775/httpimg265imageshackusimg26514.gif

[Knightsaber Priss]

Warrior, or Crazy Man as he's known in some circles, needs to get over himself. Seems those we're all personal opinions and recounts to me. Nobody said he raped chickens or anything. They said he was unprofessional and generally disliked. Seems pretty spot on to me. He was offered to chance to refute the stuff (on DVD with a tidy profit for Vince, of course) and he refused. Get over yourself, Jimbo.

Good scoop NDX.

Look, Vince McMahon needs to get over himself for that excercise in character assasination that piece of spoonfed s*** that DVD of Ultimate Warrior was. I have in windows media format file of a helluva better retrospective of Warrior's career up to '89 from Coliseum Home Video without all the bickering lies perpetuated by people bought and sold by Vince McMahon. It just shows the matches with some promo work from Warrior himself. Where the hell were interviews from people who actually had and still have good working relations with Warrior like Undertaker or Paul Bearer? How about frigging Macho Man Randy Savage who had a good rapport with Warrior as well? It's a damn shame guys like Andre (Whom Bobby does not speak for regardless what you WWE robots think.) and Rick Rude, who respected Warrior, are no longer with us to give us their side of the story.

P.S. I'm still pissed off about how Vince and the WWE has treated the Road Warriors too dammit!!

[Hunter Rider]

Look, Vince McMahon needs to get over himself for that excercise in character assasination that piece of spoonfed s*** that DVD of Ultimate Warrior was. I have in windows media format file of a helluva better retrospective of Warrior's career up to '89 from Coliseum Home Video without all the bickering lies perpetuated by people bought and sold by Vince McMahon. It just shows the matches with some promo work from Warrior himself. Where the hell were interviews from people who actually had and still have good working relations with Warrior like Undertaker or Paul Bearer? How about frigging Macho Man Randy Savage who had a good rapport with Warrior as well? It's a damn shame guys like Andre (Whom Bobby does not speak for regardless what you WWE robots think.) and Rick Rude, who respected Warrior, are no longer with us to give us their side of the story.

P.S. I'm still pissed off about how Vince and the WWE has treated the Road Warriors too dammit!!

The Warrior is pretty much regarded throughout the buisness as a troublesome phsyco
Andre didn't like him as he felt he took all he was gettting for granted and Rude was frustrated because he had to carry Warrior through an entire year at the expense of his own career
As for Savage ive never heard anything about their relationship one way or the other but Warrior is and always has been a problematic guy
He wasn't very good in the ring so it was left to better wrestler's to help get him through matches,then he threw a tantrum because Hogan was getting more money.
Lately he has been telling everyone that "F**otts are destroying america"

[Sarge 2.0]

The Warrior is pretty much regarded throughout the buisness as a troublesome phsyco
Andre didn't like him as he felt he took all he was gettting for granted and Rude was frustrated because he had to carry Warrior through an entire year at the expense of his own career
As for Savage ive never heard anything about their relationship one way or the other but Warrior is and always has been a problematic guy
He wasn't very good in the ring so it was left to better wrestler's to help get him through matches,then he threw a tantrum because Hogan was getting more money.
Lately he has been telling everyone that "F**otts are destroying america"Yeah, "Queering doesn't make the world work" doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture of Warrior. Also, if you read some of his comics from the 90's it's pretty clear that the man has a God complex, a distorted view of reality, and has a psychotic philosophy regarding life, himself, and spirituality. Warrior never was and still isn't the salt of the earth, and he damn sure doesn't deserve to be lauded for things he never really accomplished on his own. He had charisma, and (limited) ability to perform, I'll give him that, but he's brought all of this bad press on himself. For once, this isn't something Vince has done in order to get rid of someone he dislikes. This is someone who geniunely deserves whatever harsh criticism he is given.

[The Ghoul]

Yeah, "Queering doesn't make the world work" doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture of Warrior. Also, if you read some of his comics from the 90's it's pretty clear that the man has a God complex, a distorted view of reality, and has a psychotic philosophy regarding life, himself, and spirituality. Warrior never was and still isn't the salt of the earth, and he damn sure doesn't deserve to be lauded for things he never really accomplished on his own. He had charisma, and (limited) ability to perform, I'll give him that, but he's brought all of this bad press on himself. For once, this isn't something Vince has done in order to get rid of someone he dislikes. This is someone who geniunely deserves whatever harsh criticism he is given.

I am 100% in complete agreement with everything you just said.:up: :up: :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Trish Stratus, Victoria, Chavo Guerrero, CM Punk, Candice Michelle, and Mickie James all signed autographs at Victoria's Louisville, Kentucky pizzeria Fat Tony's Pizzeria last night following a WWE RAW event in the area.

William Regal, Paul Heyman, Simon Dean, Dalip Singh, and Tommy Dreamer were all in attendance at the Deep South Wrestling taping on Thursday.

[Knightsaber Priss]

You know, every single WWE robot always says the same things spoonfed to them by the WWE itself. Andre couldn't wrestle, Hulk Hogan couldn't wrestle, there are probably a thousand more wrestlers in the WWE who can't wrestle. What the hell makes Warrior different from them? And who cares about his current political speaking stuff in regards to what he gave to wrestling? Vince Mcmahon is jealous plain and simple. He's jealous of Warrior, he's jealous of Bret Hart, he's jealous of the Road Warriors whether Animal thinks so or not. Why else would he, meaning Vince, have disrespected Hawk so much by thinking him acting all drunk and suicidal was funny or appealing? And don't even get me started on how Vince made THE LEGEND of all real managers, Paul Ellering carry that stupid ventriloquist dummy around. You talk to guys like Bad News Allen (Brown) or the numerous other people Vince has screwed over. I just cannot understand how anyone can criticize Warrior when he hasn't gotten into trouble with the wrong side of the law like Ric Flair has. Self destructing my ass. Do you boys idolize wife beaters and violent, road rage basket cases now? No wonder this world is how it is.

[Knightsaber Priss]

P.S. How can people so blindly follow the WWE when they treat women like dimestore sluts too?

[Sabretooth]

P.S. How can people so blindly follow the WWE when they treat women like dimestore sluts too?
That's mainly only Torrie Wilson,and I don't care about her anyway because she's 90% plastic.:o

[Sarge 2.0]

P.S. How can people so blindly follow the WWE when they treat women like dimestore sluts too?Practically every major wrestling promotion in the United States has done that. :confused:

It attracts male viewers. So what? It's all just entertainment.

[Sabretooth]

I heard Lita has been returning to the ring in house shows,may not be too long before she's back in the ring on TV :up:

Definitely would be something different than Mickie James and Trish vs. Candice and Torrie every single week on Raw :o

[Sarge 2.0]

You know, every single WWE robot always says the same things spoonfed to them by the WWE itself. Andre couldn't wrestle, Hulk Hogan couldn't wrestle, there are probably a thousand more wrestlers in the WWE who can't wrestle. What the hell makes Warrior different from them?.The difference with Andre was that he had the presence and the draw of a classic wrestler. Sure he wasn't techinically pure, but he knew how to put on entertaining matches. And does it make either him or Hogan different from Warrior? No. Hogan however, decided to hold people down, and Warrior had to be carried through most of his matches because he was so limited.
And who cares about his current political speaking stuff in regards to what he gave to wrestling? Vince Mcmahon is jealous plain and simple. He's jealous of Warrior, he's jealous of Bret Hart, he's jealous of the Road Warriors whether Animal thinks so or not. I care because it reveals that he deserves whatever defamation he may be getting. And in regards as to what he "gave" to wrestling, he didn't give anything more than guys like Gorilla Monsoon, George "The Animal" Steele, Andre, and (later) Goldberg didn't contribute. I'm as anti-Vince as anyone, but I think his thoughts and treatment in regards to Warrior were completely justified. Warrior made far more negative contributions to the business than positive ones. Just look at his WCW run.

...

I just cannot understand how anyone can criticize Warrior when he hasn't gotten into trouble on the wrong side of the law like Roc Flair has. Self destructing my ass

I skipped the other stuff, because to some extent I agree. Vince has earned my intense dislike by screwing over other wreslters, but that's not the point. I (and presumably others) criticize Warrior because the man is obviously whacked. On top of that, he never really proved himself in the ring or as performer. Ric Flair still get's praised because he's one of the best ever. He's one of the complete packages in pro wrestling, regardless of how nasty he may be in his personal life. Warrior not only hurt the business, but made a joke of himself through his comic books and public speaking. That's why he's criticized.

[Hunter Rider]

It;s quite easy to see the huge difference between the Warrior and everyone else
No one has a good word to say about him,from the mainstream press to the wrestling fraternity,the man is an egomanical maniac who spouts out homophobic and racist drivel and somehow believes he is superior to everyone else that doesn't follow his ideals
The other thing to notice is how respectfull,the Bret,Jake and LOD DVD's were.,that's because those guys had earned it and the WWE wanted to give back

[punishermax]

You know, every single WWE robot always says the same things spoonfed to them by the WWE itself. Andre couldn't wrestle, Hulk Hogan couldn't wrestle, there are probably a thousand more wrestlers in the WWE who can't wrestle. What the hell makes Warrior different from them? And who cares about his current political speaking stuff in regards to what he gave to wrestling?
No, people who watch wrestling can tell who the guys are that can wrestle and can't. Hogan couldn't do much in the way of technical wrestling, Andre couldn't either but both had a presence in the way that is rarely replicated. Warrior was far behind Hogan, he probably wasn't too far from Andre but Andre was one of a kind and from what I have heard he was one of the nicest people anybody has ever met, as to where all I have heard was that Warrior thought he was God's gift to man, but Warrior can do what he wants outside of the ring.
Vince Mcmahon is jealous plain and simple. He's jealous of Warrior, he's jealous of Bret Hart, he's jealous of the Road Warriors whether Animal thinks so or not. Why else would he, meaning Vince, have disrespected Hawk so much by thinking him acting all drunk and suicidal was funny or appealing? And don't even get me started on how Vince made THE LEGEND of all real managers, Paul Ellering carry that stupid ventriloquist dummy around.
Why would Vince be jealous?
You talk to guys like Bad News Allen (Brown) or the numerous other people Vince has screwed over. I just cannot understand how anyone can criticize Warrior when he hasn't gotten into trouble with the wrong side of the law like Ric Flair has. Self destructing my ass. Do you boys idolize wife beaters and violent, road rage basket cases now? No wonder this world is how it is.
Thats just the wrestling business, the Warrior was always thought of as a dick, as compared to Flair who was well respected inside and outside of the ring. I have never defended Flair for his actions outside of the ring, was he wrong in what he did, of course he was, was Warrior wrong for saying that being gay is bad, of course he was, but they can say or do whatever they want in their real lives, all I care about is what they can do inside the wrestling ring, and Flair was light years ahead of Warrior, as compared to the Warrior who looked like he had the wrestling prowess of a four year old child, yet Warrior acts as though he was and is the greatest wrestler to ever step foot in a ring.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Practically every major wrestling promotion in the United States has done that. :confused:

It attracts male viewers. So what? It's all just entertainment.

So what!? What about me? I am a female who is a wrestling fan? I don't count because I don't have an extra chromosome now? I am sickened to death od seeing all those scantily clad women acting like sex starved porn stars. It's not just Torrie, it's Lita too you know. I feel like my intelligence and my love of wrestling is insulted now because I'm just a stupid female. You have no idea how important wrestling was for me as a child. It was my only release during a really bad time. This is why I despise the WWE now. It has become every sexist thing I used to be tormented with from the time I was young.

[The FallenAngel]

I'm pretty sure that if the women in the WWE felt the same way, they wouldn't stand for it, and quit. It's really quite easy. Technically they are being made to go out dressed as they are, but if they didn't want to, I don't think they would.

[punishermax]

WWE uses female the way they do to get casual fans to watch, and the demographic they want to get is young males, who do like to see women, maybe not portrayed to the extremes that the WWE sometimes do, but you can't blame the WWE for giving the majority of thefans what they want.

[The FallenAngel]

When it comes down to it, it's all buisness. Vince is targeting males with the product he puts out. By dressing the women the way they are, more males are likely to tune in to watch them. The women are all apart of the buisness too, and they know that.

[SLYspyder]

So what!? What about me? I am a female who is a wrestling fan? I don't count because I don't have an extra chromosome now? I am sickened to death od seeing all those scantily clad women acting like sex starved porn stars. It's not just Torrie, it's Lita too you know. I feel like my intelligence and my love of wrestling is insulted now because I'm just a stupid female. You have no idea how important wrestling was for me as a child. It was my only release during a really bad time. This is why I despise the WWE now. It has become every sexist thing I used to be tormented with from the time I was young.

stop the ****in whining. what don't you get about its a show, just entertainment?
how often do you even see any of the guys in this thread come in and start acting like a 13 yr old because they saw "puppies" during the show? most, if not all the discussions, are about wrestling.
how come most of the guy wrestlers who come into the ring with trunks aren't scantily clad? you don't see anyone coming in here whining about how val venis makes his entrance.

[Mister J]

So what!? What about me? I am a female who is a wrestling fan? I don't count because I don't have an extra chromosome now? I am sickened to death od seeing all those scantily clad women acting like sex starved porn stars. It's not just Torrie, it's Lita too you know. I feel like my intelligence and my love of wrestling is insulted now because I'm just a stupid female. You have no idea how important wrestling was for me as a child. It was my only release during a really bad time. This is why I despise the WWE now. It has become every sexist thing I used to be tormented with from the time I was young.

Or you could just stop watching and have nothing more to do with wrestling (at least WWE), 'cause Vince ain't changin'.

[3dman27]

might i suggest you try TNA godzilla2000? that may be moreto your liking

[The FallenAngel]

Tomorrow night on Raw, it will be Edge with a partner of his choosing, taking on John Cena, with a partner of his choosing. I'm not to sure on who Edge will pick, but I'm guessing Cena will choose Flair.

[Sarge 2.0]

might i suggest you try TNA godzilla2000? that may be moreto your likingShe's already said that she watches TNA. :confused:

I'm beginning to think that they pay you or something. :o

[Sarge 2.0]

Tomorrow night on Raw, it will be Edge with a partner of his choosing, taking on John Cena, with a partner of his choosing. I'm not to sure on who Edge will pick, but I'm guessing Cena will choose Flair.I'm assuming he would choose Lita, but if this were a perfect world, he could pick Christian. Of course he could pull an enforcer thing and have it be Kane or something.

[The FallenAngel]

Knowing the way things have been going lately, it will probably end up being Masters or Carlito.

[The Ghoul]

So what!? What about me? I am a female who is a wrestling fan? I don't count because I don't have an extra chromosome now? I am sickened to death od seeing all those scantily clad women acting like sex starved porn stars. It's not just Torrie, it's Lita too you know. I feel like my intelligence and my love of wrestling is insulted now because I'm just a stupid female. You have no idea how important wrestling was for me as a child. It was my only release during a really bad time. This is why I despise the WWE now. It has become every sexist thing I used to be tormented with from the time I was young.

You know what, despite what everyone else says, I agree with you. There is no practicle reason for WWE, WEW, (the now dead) WOW, ECW, WCW & every other compony to do that besides appeasing horny males. I fast forward Diva segments(thank god for tivo). Not because I am a gay but it is usally just mindless babble with better dialogue found in real porn. The only time I watch it is to see an Alexis Laree (Mickie James) match. She is one of the few females in WWE that is an actual wrestler. But she looks so different than she did in TNA & indie promotions. But as much as I don't like it, it is the nature of the beast. And that's not going to change.

Alexis Laree
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/a/alexislaree/01.jpg

Mickie James
http://www.dailywrestling.com/women/gallery23/1226221320.jpg

[The Ghoul]

****ing double post

[Eric Draven]

Tomorrow night on Raw, it will be Edge with a partner of his choosing, taking on John Cena, with a partner of his choosing. I'm not to sure on who Edge will pick, but I'm guessing Cena will choose Flair.

I'm going for the wildcard and hoping Edge chooses Johnny Parisi (Swinger). I think Edge and Parisi are good buddies in real life, plus it would give Parisi a chance to finally be on Raw.

But the odds of that happening are nil....:(

[Sarge 2.0]

You know what, despite what everyone else says, I agree with you. There is no practicle reason for WWE, WEW, (the now dead) WOW, ECW, WCW & every other compony to do that besides appeasing horny males. I fast forward Diva segments(thank god for tivo). Not because I am a gay but it is usally just mindless babble with better dialogue found in real porn. The only time I watch it is to see an Alexis Laree (Mickie James) match. She is one of the few females in WWE that is an actual wrestler. But she looks so different than she did in TNA & indie promotions. But as much as I don't like it, it is the nature of the beast. And that's not going to change.

Alexis Laree
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/a/alexislaree/01.jpg

Mickie James
http://www.dailywrestling.com/women/gallery23/1226221320.jpgSame thing happened to ECW guys who moved over...especially Raven. His attire was part of his character, and when you make him more uniform, it ruins the point of Raven. But in response to the women thing...I'm a teenage male. Do I enjoy every moment of Diva segments, regardless of wrestling quality? Hell yes. It's pretty normal for me not to have a problem with well endowed, good looking women grab all over each other for a good ten minutes. Can't blame me for having hormones.

[The Ghoul]

Same thing happened to ECW guys who moved over...especially Raven. His attire was part of his character, and when you make him more uniform, it ruins the point of Raven. But in response to the women thing...I'm a teenage male. Do I enjoy every moment of Diva segments, regardless of wrestling quality? Hell yes. It's pretty normal for me not to have a problem with well endowed, good looking women grab all over each other for a good ten minutes. Can't blame me for having hormones.

I agree with the Raven thing, but with Mickie it's different. Sence TNA & WEW I became a Alexis Laree fan istantly I was completley impressed with how great of a wrestle she is. And when I heard she was sign I was so happy because I thought they were goiing to finally get a female over for being a wrestler. Because that was her, in all the promotions she worked for she was Alexis Laree: Amazing Wrestler... no gimmick. She comes to WWE & it's Mickie James: Lesbian Stalker. And that's why I used that particular picture, because this is what Vince made her become.

As for the diva comments, as I said I'm not gay, but insulting my intellegence is a turn off. I watch wrestling for wrestling, not fake porn. If I wanted to masturbate, believe me, wrestling would be the last thing I put on.

[Donnie Darko]

I don't know... Kurt Angle winning the title gave me a little bit of a chub










I kid, I kid

[Colossal Spoons]

You know what, despite what everyone else says, I agree with you. There is no practicle reason for WWE, WEW, (the now dead) WOW, ECW, WCW & every other compony to do that besides appeasing horny males. I fast forward Diva segments(thank god for tivo). Not because I am a gay but it is usally just mindless babble with better dialogue found in real porn. The only time I watch it is to see an Alexis Laree (Mickie James) match. She is one of the few females in WWE that is an actual wrestler. But she looks so different than she did in TNA & indie promotions. But as much as I don't like it, it is the nature of the beast. And that's not going to change.

Alexis Laree
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/a/alexislaree/01.jpg

Mickie James
http://www.dailywrestling.com/women/gallery23/1226221320.jpg


MJ has beautiful hindquarters.

[TheVileOne]

I could easily see Edge pick...HHH.

[Sarge 2.0]

I was thinking that just right now...which will lead to Big Show interference and Flair(I assume)/Cena winning the match.

[NDX]

Source: The Wrestling Observer

Old episodes from 1996 of the short-lived American Wrestling Federation were released on DVD this past Friday. The DVD collection features wrestlers such as Tito Santana, Tony Atlas, Bob Orton, Greg Valentine, Sgt. Slaughter and more classic 80's stars. DVDs can be found at FYE and some other major retailers.

As noted yesterday, matches scheduled for the upcoming MTV-Big Vision Entertainment pro wrestling pilot on February 9 includes Puma vs. Tommy Williams, Human Tornado vs. Delirious vs. Luke and Disco Machine, Joey Ryan & Topgun Talwar vs. Scorpio Sky, Zokre & Phoenix Star. According to reports, those matches taking place are for MTV executives and the show's writers/producers in order to see what talent will be offered contracts if the show ends up being picked up for a full season. Other talent confirmed as well includes Sean Waltman, New Jack, Vampiro, Jack Evans, Matt Sydal and Teddy Hart.

Paul Heyman, William Regal, Tommy Dreamer, Simon Dean and Dalip "Giant" Singh were all in attendance at the Deep South Wrestling TV taping this past Thursday. Dean wrestled at the taping facing Ray Gordy. As reported on earlier, Singh has started training regularly at DSW.

[Hunter Rider]

WWE.com has confirmed the following matches for Monday Night RAW tomorrow night in Charlotte, NC: WWE Champion Edge & mystery partner vs. John Cena & mystery partner in a "Pick Your Partner" Match, Shawn Michaels vs. Shelton Benjamin, Kane vs. Carlito and WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus & Ashley vs. Victoria & Candice.

[3dman27]

She's already said that she watches TNA. :confused:

I'm beginning to think that they pay you or something. :o
naw, i just turned to tna when the wwpu finally wimped out on me

[NDX]

Well, at least there is the Shawn Michaels/Shelton Benjamin match to look forward to tonight. I can't wait to see how his Momma plays a role in the match as compaired to their first encounter, which I really should find on tape.

With the womens match, I would rather see Ashley challenge Trish in a non-title match or challenge Victoria in a #1 Contendor's Match (an lose) than team with Trish against Victoria and Candice. I want to see what Ashley can do in the ring against established wrestlers, see how far she's progressed.

[White_Howling]

I could easily see Edge pick...HHH.

nooo please..... i hope triple H has nothing to do with helping edge out

[Hunter Rider]

On the Alexis Laree point-I agree she is a talented wrestler and i liked her looks better before she got inflated but the storyline with her and Trish is actually very good as it is now developing that Nikie is out phsyqing Trish and isn't a silly stalker afterall

Edge's tag partner will be Masters as he was involved with Cena and Edge last week

[3dman27]

I'm assuming he would choose Lita, but if this were a perfect world, he could pick Christian. Of course he could pull an enforcer thing and have it be Kane or something.
if edge picked lita wouldn't cena have to pick a female partner as well?

[TheVileOne]

Here's the card for the Royal Rumble this year and its garbage:

Rumble Match
Cena vs. Edge
Henry vs. Angle
JBL vs. The Boogeyman (that's right)

Um...spew, blurgh, yuck.

Another year where they have to rely on the rumble match to save the show. Lameness. I remember from 2000-2003 the Rumble PPV's were actually pretty good with some great world title matches. Not anymore with this Henry vs. Angle garbage. They could've done a million better matches for the world title instead...Mizark Henry. Henry who sucks horribly and has never improved in all his time in the WWE.

[Hunter Rider]

I think Edge vs Cena could be very good and if Angle vs Henry is wrestled smart like Rey/Henry was it could be fine
Boogeyman is crap but if they add a decent singles match from RAW to the PPV it should be fun

[Sarge 2.0]

if edge picked lita wouldn't cena have to pick a female partner as well?No...:confused:

[punishermax]

Well, atleast Shelton v. HBK should be good.

[The FallenAngel]

Shelton and HBK will probably be the best match tonight.

[Colossal Spoons]

^eh....IF Mama Benjamin doesn't get too involved.

[The FallenAngel]

You know she'll have some part in it. It will still be some good wrestling though. Anyway, I'm thinking to promote Kane's new movie, his match won't be a total squash, but most likely one-sided. I'm not really looking forward to the tag match. Edge will most likely pick Masters, and Cena will most likely pick Flair. I had a horrible idea earlier, that Flair would be out, and Cena would call in Hogan. That would suck.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ugh, that would suck a lot. Kane's movie might actually not suck like I expected it to.

[PyroChamber]

WWE.com has confirmed the following matches for Monday Night RAW tomorrow night in Charlotte, NC: WWE Champion Edge & mystery partner vs. John Cena & mystery partner in a "Pick Your Partner" Match, Shawn Michaels vs. Shelton Benjamin, Kane vs. Carlito and WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus & Ashley vs. Victoria & Candice.You know, after looking that I'm not really confident about tonight's RAW. I mean, they could be good matches but who knows.

Women's Tag match...Again?? If they're going to have the women's championship on both shows then they need to do it now. Especially with all the news lately about the WWE signing new Divas.

[Hunter Rider]

-- To update on the possibility of The Rock at Wrestlemania, The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that the one person he would want to work with is Bret Hart. Due to Hart's respect for the Rock, if he was to work with someone, The Rock would be a likely candidate. However, his physical condition likely prevents him from doing a match that he would want to be remembered for.

WWE has suggested Michaels as an opponent for him, however The Rock wasn't a fan of that idea. He has made it clear that he felt Shawn Michaels was an ******* to him when he first came in, and was one to the point where he vowed he will never forget it. He also doesn't think that Michaels is the same kind of big draw that Hogan, Austin, Hart, etc. are.

There is a chance that the filming of his next movie could be delayed until April, which would allow him to appear at Mania.


Rock is right that HBK isnt as big a draw as Hogan or Austin but nobody is,however Hart was never a draw,thats why a lot of his title defenses went second last while HBK and Taker headlined the cards

[Colossal Spoons]

I remmeber Rock saying what an ass Shawn was to him in his book. That man knows how to hold a grudge.

[The Batman]

HBK was mainly never a draw because he pretty much missed the entire attitude era. Much like Taker didnt really take off till that era as well. Hart was only a draw in places other than america, and the only reason hes famous is because of the screwjob.

[Hunter Rider]

HBK also had the hard task of srawing at the period when WCW had the NWO angle with all the big names (Hogan,Savage,Flair,Sting,Nash,Hall etc,,)
There was only HBK and Taker on the WWE side that were stars,Bret had left and guys like HHH,Foley and Austin were just getting noticed and Bulldog,Vader and Owen were great workers but not draws(vader had been in WCW)

I think Rock and Shawn need to just sit down and air out the issue,if HBK has changed Rock will see it and we can get a great WM match instead of HBK/Vince

[LastSunrise1981]

HBK also had the hard task of srawing at the period when WCW had the NWO angle with all the big names (Hogan,Savage,Flair,Sting,Nash,Hall etc,,)
There was only HBK and Taker on the WWE side that were stars,Bret had left and guys like HHH,Foley and Austin were just getting noticed and Bulldog,Vader and Owen were great workers but not draws(vader had been in WCW)

I think Rock and Shawn need to just sit down and air out the issue,if HBK has changed Rock will see it and we can get a great WM match instead of HBK/Vince

HBK definitely isn't the same person he was back then. Hopefully they can settle out their feud and actually participate in a great match.

[The Batman]

HBK also had the hard task of srawing at the period when WCW had the NWO angle with all the big names (Hogan,Savage,Flair,Sting,Nash,Hall etc,,)
There was only HBK and Taker on the WWE side that were stars,Bret had left and guys like HHH,Foley and Austin were just getting noticed and Bulldog,Vader and Owen were great workers but not draws(vader had been in WCW)

I think Rock and Shawn need to just sit down and air out the issue,if HBK has changed Rock will see it and we can get a great WM match instead of HBK/Vince

I hope so too. Rock vs HBK would be worth the ppv price. Two oversellers? Awesome

[The FallenAngel]

I would also love to see HBK vs. The Rock. That would be a great match. On a different note, I just saw the video for RVD's return. I'm so pumped for when he comes back. Raw will definitely pick up once he comes back.

[punishermax]

I would also love to see HBK vs. The Rock. That would be a great match. On a different note, I just saw the video for RVD's return. I'm so pumped for when he comes back. Raw will definitely pick up once he comes back.

We could only hope.

[Colossal Spoons]

SD could use RVD more though.

[Hunter Rider]

Good start,Looks like Edge is maybe in with a chance at the Rumble

[Colossal Spoons]

Vince killed two birds with one stone; looks like making Edge champ and having Cena feud with him is gettin Cena some cheers. Crowd's still pretty dead tonight though.

[Hunter Rider]

Nice promo interchange,im looking forward to their match,i just can't figure why Edge is keeping that crappy belt

[Colossal Spoons]

...um cuz he's gonna have to give it right back to Cena on Sunday?


oh, Lita looks goooooooood tonight :up:

[Jason Blood]

People boo Edge a lot

He's keeping the damn belt till Wrestlemania

It should be Smackdown's year for the Royal Rumble winner

I'm guessing Rey gets the win to face Kurt at WM

[Hunter Rider]

...um cuz he's gonna have to give it right back to Cena on Sunday?


oh, Lita looks goooooooood tonight :up:

don't say that,maybe it's a trick.....yeah thats it a trick:(

Lita is way to covered up,wheres those slit down the middle tops:mad:

[punishermax]

Wow! That divas match was actually pretty good.

[Colossal Spoons]

^I thought it was as bad as usual. I just enjoy seeing Mickie
don't say that,maybe it's a trick.....yeah thats it a trick:(

Lita is way to covered up,wheres those slit down the middle tops:mad:

Ok, I'll jump on the denial bandwagon with you lol.

[Asgard]

I got this from another forum.
Has anyone heard this rumor?

(Taken from Chris Hyatte's monday blog)
SUNDAY, BLOODY SUNDAY

Ohhhh, something BIG is brewing.

How big? SO big that the "heavyweight" reporters (Meltzer, Scherer, Keller) are quietly checking and re-checking the facts before reporting on this.

HOW BIG? Well, IF it's true it might cause a mainstream uproar that SHOULD be on the level of Eddie's death and the subsequent Drug Testing announcement

HOW BIG?? Big enough that the Undertaker could potentially have a MAJOR lawsuit against the WWE...

I'm sure you know the story, but let me recap it a bit...

Rumor has it... that "Cowboy" Bob Orton Jr has Hepatitus. A pretty nasty, permenant disease that lives in his blood. In varying degrees, it could be fatal. It's also easily transmitted through mixing of body fluids. It just wipes out your liver.

Rumor has it... that Orton has had this for a while.

Rumor has it... Orton only told John Laurenitius. Probably the McMahons too.

Rumor has it... Laurenitus didn't bother to tell anyone else other than, (and this isn't for sure, just possible/probable) the McMahons and.or anyone higher on the management chain

Rumor has it... Orton got to work with this disease that IS EASILY PASSED ON THROUGH MIXING BLOOD in an environment where he sometimes is called to get physical with others and bleed.

Rumor has it... FACT... Orton bled like a stuck pig during his son's Armageddon "Hell in the Cell" match against the Undertaker

Rumor has it... FACT... Orton bled all over the Undertaker

Rumor has it... FACT Undertaker was bleeding too

Rumor has it... FACT Randy Orton was bleeding as well. All three ended up covered in each other's blood.

Rumor has it... Laurenitius saw this and said, "Uh oh".

Rumor has it... Laurentitius waited until it was too late, and until he had a load of muscle behind him, to break the news to the Undertaker

Rumor has it... The Undertaker is infuriated.

FACT Neither Cowboy Bob or the Undertaker have been seen since

And there you have it.

Do you understand what the ramifications are if any of this is true?

First of all, to ignorantly expose the Undertaker, the most loyal dog the WWE has ever had, to this is... is just mind blowing. Years... over a decade of service... of money generating fan appeal, to just callously let him work with a guy WITH A LIVER DESTROYING DISEASE IN HIS BLOOD and allow them to bleed all over each other. Without a warning... without a single heads up.

And the LEGAL ramifications. Mark Calloway, if any of this is true, could possible destroy the WWE. I mean, the irresponsible behavior here is just... it's worse than their ongoing drug problem. At least with drugs and 'roids, the WWE can say, "Hey, we didn't know!" In this situation, management (Laurenitius at least... and he WILL be the fall guy if this is as bad as it looks) DID know... and willfully withheld the information.

If this is true, the reign of John Laurenitius is over. You can't hide this. You can't sweep this under the rug. You can't throw a ton of money at the Undertaker and tell him to shut up.

Im having a hard time believing this is true. I can understand the McMahons or other upper management bigwigs allowing or turning a blind eye to wrestlers using steroids, but actually allowing their wrestlers to wrestle with someone with Hepatitis or other diseases that are easily transmitted through blood without informing them beforehand just seems way too reckless.

I tried finding the guy's blog, but I had no luck.

[punishermax]

^Doubt it.

As for the WWE, just have Shelton v. HBK every Monday and I'll be the happiest little boy on Earth.

[Lone Wolf]

What the hell was that?

[The Ghoul]

I was about to to comment on the **** Vince said, then I saw the spirit sqaud & few brain cells died.

[punishermax]

The Spirit Squad= The new New World Order.

[Colossal Spoons]

^Same here.......:brain fart:

We definately called the tag partners. Surprise surprise.

[Eric Draven]

And to think, CM Punk was originally supposed to be part of the Spirit Squad....:o

[Sarge 2.0]

Christ, if Punk was in that, I'd shoot myself. :o

[Eric Draven]

It would be especially hilarious to see a male cheerleader sporting a Pepsi logo tattoo :o

[NDX]

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw them. Glad I got that stupidity on tape. Too bad they're probably going to be on the show again next week. That would have been perfect if it was a one time only thing.

Source: WrestlingObserver.com

The Spirit Squad male cheerleader group, which has appeared on the WWE house show circuit, made its RAW debut last night.

The identities of the members are as follows:

Ken Doane
Mike Mondo
Nick Mitchell
Johnny Jeter
Nick Nemeth

[The FallenAngel]

All those guys are from OVW, right?

[kane9321]

jesus aged christ "The Spirit Squad"..what the hell was that.Once again victoria loses to ashley or trish..my girl cant be happy with these f'ed outcomes every week

[DOG LIPS]

Spirit Squad could be the most annoying thing ever, especially if they follow the Coach around. Hopefully they will just be some dumb "For hire" type deal. I'm so freakin tired of Cena. :mad: Also, poor GH. :(

Jerry, please stop wrasslin. :(

[SLYspyder]

HOLY CRAP! that is some insane news with bob orton and undertaker. i cant ****in believe they would let something like that happen.

i was actually thinking about this the other day, since wrestlers always bleed all over each other and calmed myself saying that they always get tested and people are watching over this stuff.

this is just ****in sad, someone should ****in pay for this. all blame is to be on bob orton if this is true, i can't believe i used to like him. knowing you have heppatitus and participating in a match and busting yourself open?! WTF?!

[Colossal Spoons]

^It's still just a rumor so i hope to God it ain't true.

[Hunter Rider]

edit

[Hunter Rider]

CBS and Warner Bros. issued the following press release this morning following the conclusion of a press conference announcing that the UPN and WB Networks would shut down and merge into the CW Network this Fall. Of interest to wrestling fans is the note that WWE Smackdown, described as a UPN staple, "is expected to play a role in the schedule."

The complete press release reads:


CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. Entertainment Form New 5th Broadcast Network
Each Company to Hold 50% Interest In The CW Television Network

Tribune Broadcasting and CBS Corporation Stations Agree to 10-Year Affiliation Agreements Covering 48% of the Country

New Television Network to Utilize the Best Programming from CBS Corporation and Warner Bros.

Dawn Ostroff Is Tapped as President of Entertainment at The New Network; John Maatta Will Be Chief Operating Officer

The WB and UPN to Cease Operations in September 2006

NEW YORK, Jan. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. Entertainment today announced their intent to form a new 5th network, The CW, to be launched in the fall of 2006. The new broadcasting network will be a joint venture between Warner Bros. Entertainment and CBS Corporation, with each company owning 50%. In an important strategic move that secures major market distribution for The CW, it was announced that Tribune Broadcasting and the CBS Corporation's UPN affiliates have agreed separately to sign 10-year affiliation agreements with the new network.

The announcement for the new network was made today in New York by Leslie Moonves, President and Chief Executive Officer of CBS Corporation and Barry Meyer, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Warner Bros. Entertainment. The Tribune Broadcasting affiliation agreements were announced by Dennis FitzSimons, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of Tribune Company.

At the same time, it was announced that CBS Corporation and Warner Bros. Entertainment will cease operations of their respective networks -- UPN and The WB. The WB and UPN will continue to broadcast their respective network schedules independently until the fall.

The combination of Tribune's 16 major market stations and the 12 CBS-owned UPN major market affiliates give The CW instant coverage in 48% of the country. The remainder of the network's distribution system will be a combination of selected current UPN and The WB stations. The full distribution of the new network is expected to exceed 95% of the country.

Dawn Ostroff, currently President of UPN, will become President of Entertainment and John Maatta, currently Chief Operating Officer of The WB, will become Chief Operating Officer of The CW.

"This new network will serve the public with high-quality programming and maintain our ongoing commitment to our diverse audience," said Moonves. "It will clearly be greater than the sum of its parts, delivering excellent demographics to advertisers, and building a strong new affiliate body. Additionally, The CW will be able to draw from the creative talent and production resources from the top two television production studios in the business, while also seeking programming from all sources -- independent producers or other studios. With this move, we will be creating a viable entity, one well-equipped to compete, thrive and serve all our many publics in this multi-channel media universe. I'd like to thank Dawn Ostroff and all the talented people at UPN who have worked so hard. For many years UPN had financial losses, but under CBS's guidance, UPN has been able to effect a dramatic creative turnaround in a short period of time."

"This new network makes sound business and creative sense at every level -- for our viewers, advertisers, affiliates and for the shareholders of our companies," said Meyer. "Every key constituency of the network will now greatly benefit from this combination by being part of a highly rated, competitive, 5th broadcast network that is financially sound. As we form this new joint venture, we are also very pleased that in Dawn and John we have a management team of great creative vision and business acumen, one that will help to guide it successfully forward."

"This is a very exciting day for Time Warner and its shareholders in the creation of what we believe will be a very strong and viable 5th broadcast television network," said Jeff Bewkes, President & Chief Operating Officer of Time Warner. "This new network will have all the strategic asset value as an outlet for our programming that The WB presented us, but with a much firmer and more secure financial present and future. The credit goes to Barry Meyer, who continues to have tremendous vision and extraordinary business acumen as the long time leader of Warner Bros. Entertainment, a company that we are proud to say continues to be number one in its class."

"This is a great day for Tribune and its shareholders, and we are pleased to be the lead affiliate group of what will be a strong network," said FitzSimons. "We could not have had a better partner than Warner Bros. and Barry Meyer since we together launched The WB 11 years ago. Now, with the ownership role of CBS Corporation and the leadership of Leslie Moonves added to the mix, Tribune's viewers and advertisers will benefit from an even stronger programming lineup."

The 16 Tribune affiliated stations will include New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Dallas, Washington, D.C., Houston, Miami, Denver, St. Louis, Portland, Indianapolis, San Diego, Hartford, New Orleans and Albany. The 12 CBS Station Group television markets will include Philadelphia, San Francisco, Atlanta, Detroit, Tampa, Seattle, Sacramento, Pittsburgh, West Palm Beach, Norfolk, Oklahoma City and Providence. Together, these top two station groups cover the top 13 television markets, 20 of the top 25 television markets and have a total coverage area of more than 48% of the country.

The CW will incorporate The WB's current scheduling model, which consists of a 6 night-13 hour primetime lineup including Monday through Friday nights from 8-10 (EST/PST); Sundays from 7-10 (EST/PST); Sunday from 5-7 (EST/PST) outside of primetime as well as a Monday thru Friday afternoon block from 3-5 (EST/PST) and a 5-hour Saturday morning animation block. Together, the network will program 30 hours a week over seven days for its affiliated stations.

As the top creative executive, Ostroff will have available a line-up of some of the most popular programming that appeals to young adults in the media business. These programming assets range from hit reality series such as "America's Next Top Model" and The WB's "Beauty and the Geek," to hit dramas like The WB's "Smallville," "Gilmore Girls," "Supernatural," and UPN's "Veronica Mars" as well as UPN's hit comedies "Everybody Hates Chris" and "Girlfriends" and The WB's hit comedy "Reba." In addition the WWE's "Smackdown," which has been a mainstay at UPN, is expected to play a role in the schedule.

In addition, The CW will also broadcast the schedule of children's programming now known as Kids' WB!, a 5-hour original programming block on Saturday mornings from 7:00 a.m.-Noon, considered primetime for kids. Kids' WB! has been the broadcast network ratings champion since Fall 2000, capturing 16 consecutive sweep victories as the Number One Saturday morning kids' broadcaster.

All programming, marketing, scheduling, publicity and research functions will report to Ostroff.

Maatta will be responsible for the network's business operations. Bill Morningstar, The WB's Executive Vice President of Advertising Sales will become the head of sales reporting to Maatta. Other responsibilities that will report to Maatta include business affairs, network distribution, legal, finance and human resources.

Meyer added: "This could not have happened without the tremendous energy and talent of Bruce Rosenblum, President of Warner Bros. Television Group and Nancy Tellem at CBS who worked tirelessly and cohesively together to make this new network a reality. I would also like to thank Dennis FitzSimons, who saw the great opportunity this new network presents for the Tribune Company and who continues to be one of the great professionals and broadcasters in the business today."

Moonves added: "This idea becomes a reality only when a great station group like Tribune comes on board with us and delivers the powerful reach a new network requires. With formidable flagship Tribune stations in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, a great CBS line-up of owned and operated UPN stations, and strong affiliates from every available market, The CW launches as a strong competitor to the Big Four, and that's good for our business, for the viewing audience, and for free, over the air broadcasting. It is also good news for our shareholders, who will benefit from a much stronger business model, improved economics for our stations and new opportunities for our production businesses."

CBS Corporation (NYSE: CBS.A and CBS) is a mass media company with constituent parts that reach back to the beginnings of the broadcast industry, as well as newer businesses that operate on the leading edge of the media industry. The Company, through its many and varied operations, combines broad reach with well-positioned local businesses, all of which provide it with an extensive distribution network by which it serves audiences and advertisers in all 50 states and key international markets. It has operations in virtually every field of media and entertainment, including broadcast television (CBS and UPN), cable television (Showtime), local television (CBS Television Stations), television production and syndication (CBS Paramount Television and King World), radio (CBS Radio), advertising on out-of-home media (CBS Outdoor), publishing (Simon & Schuster), theme parks (Paramount Parks), digital media (CBS Digital Media Group and CSTV Networks) and consumer products (CBS Consumer Products). For more information, log on to http://www.cbscorporation.com.

Warner Bros. Entertainment, a fully-integrated, broad-based entertainment company, is a global leader in the creation, production, distribution, licensing and marketing of all forms of entertainment and their related businesses. Warner Bros. Entertainment, a Time Warner Company, stands at the forefront of every aspect of the entertainment industry, from feature films to television, home video/DVD, animation, comic books, interactive entertainment and games, product and brand licensing, international cinemas and broadcasting.

TRIBUNE (NYSE: TRB) is one of the country's top media companies, operating businesses in publishing and broadcasting. It reaches more than 80 percent of U.S. households and is the only media organization with newspapers, television stations and websites in the nation's top three markets. In publishing, Tribune operates 11 leading daily newspapers including the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune and Newsday, plus a wide range of targeted publications such as Spanish-language Hoy. The company's broadcasting group operates 26 television stations, Superstation WGN on national cable, Chicago's WGN-AM and the Chicago Cubs baseball team. Popular news and information websites complement Tribune's print and broadcast properties and extend the company's nationwide audience.

[DOG LIPS]

My attention span won't allow me to read that, can someone sum it up in about 3 or 4 words? :(

[Hunter Rider]

My attention span won't allow me to read that, can someone sum it up in about 3 or 4 words? :(

This is the only part that matters to ushttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

CBS and Warner Bros. issued the following press release this morning following the conclusion of a press conference announcing that the UPN and WB Networks would shut down and merge into the CW Network this Fall. Of interest to wrestling fans is the note that WWE Smackdown, described as a UPN staple, "is expected to play a role in the schedule."

[DOG LIPS]

Sweeeeet. :D:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn; no more UPN. What are us black people supposed to watch now? Damn it!

[DOG LIPS]

I'm really getting tired of Lita's character. She follows Edge around and plays the whore, then Cena makes whore-comments about her to piss off Edge. She used to be one of my fav female wrasslers back when she would kick everyone's ass and looked good doing it. That was before she became the slut-joke of the year and started talking. :(

[DOG LIPS]

Damn; no more UPN. What are us black people supposed to watch now? Damn it!
CMT. :o

[Hunter Rider]

Damn; no more UPN. What are us black people supposed to watch now? Damn it!

Will you not get the new channel where you live ?

[Colossal Spoons]

CMT. :o

Haha, you're funny. I always hated how UPN was nothing but Smackdown, Everybody loves Raymond, and black people shows. Glad the WB will shake things up a bit.

[Colossal Spoons]

Will you not get the new channel where you live ?

Yeah; I was joking that the abundance of African-American shows will no doubt be decreased lol.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah; I was joking that the abundance of African-American shows will no doubt be decreased lol.

LOL,yeah i realised when i read your post to Doglips,my Englishness didn't ralise the joke:O http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Twitch]

LOL,yeah i realised when i read your post to Doglips,my Englishness didn't ralise the joke:O http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Silly English people :o

[Colossal Spoons]

Seriously; I think Vince may as well buy his own cable channel. It could be WWE On Demand plus the regular weekly shows.

[DOG LIPS]

Silly English people :o
Sirry Engrish peepoe.*

[PyroChamber]

Haha, you're funny. I always hated how UPN was nothing but Smackdown, Everybody loves Raymond, and black people shows. Glad the WB will shake things up a bit.I remember there was a time when WB showed nothing but black shows, my how times have changed.

As long as nothing happens to Smackdown then I'm cool with it.

[Sabretooth]

I was very,very entertained by Cena last night. He still obviously has what he did 2 years ago.

LOVED when Shelton was sad because Shawn called him a mama's boy. It's a damn crime how WWE hid his mic abilities for so long.

As for Undertaker,oh god I hope not. After Eddie Guerrero,WWE putting Angle on deathwatch (though I think that stopped) and Raven having health problems,I couldn't take another loss this big. Undertaker,despite how much I hate his current gimmick,is probably my favorite wrestler of all time,I couldn't take something like that happening to him.

[Mister J]

Cena's still got it. They just too caught up in trying to artificially push him.

[The Ghoul]

Cena's still got it. They just too caught up in trying to artificially push him.

His whole "Ho-pun," I felt, was redundent & uncreative. I might be *****ing a little, but I felt I could have wrote it better. I just remember when he made reference to Hiroko's white face. That was genius.

[NDX]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised that "Cowboy" Bob Orton, Jr. would have Hepatitis, but I doubt that if he did the WWE would allow for him to blade for the match with them. That would be too reckless, even for them.

I do believe that "Superstar" Billy Graham says he has Hepatatis and recieved it through blading during wrestling matches. But it could have been another wrestler.

[Hunter Rider]

http://rapidshare.de/files/11726483/KENTAvsMarufuji.wmv.html

I encourage you all to check this match out
It is KENTA vs Marafuji for the GHC jr title from this past Saturday's Budokan show
easily the best match so far this year and better than AJ vs Joe from TP as well IMO

[The FallenAngel]

Thanks for the link. I was hoping I'd get to see this match.

[GLfan]

CMT. :o
I was thinking BET.:D

[LastSunrise1981]

His whole "Ho-pun," I felt, was redundent & uncreative. I might be *****ing a little, but I felt I could have wrote it better. I just remember when he made reference to Hiroko's white face. That was genius.

I'm tired of Cena and I enjoy Edge's heel work. I love how obnoxious, vicious, and truthful he is in his promos. Hopefully Cena doesn't get his stupid bling belt back and he can return to being a mid-carder.

I want to see new feuds and I don't need to see Cena shoved down my throat as a bland wussified champion.

What the hell was the spirit squad? That was just....Moronic and wasn't even necessary. :down

[Donnie Darko]

I think they could have Cena kinda be their top face draw but not champion for a while, basically like HHH is. Put him in some high profile feuds to build up his popularity and credibility, then maybe around Summerslam or something, put him back in the title scene.

[citizenpain]

i HATE that spinner belt. they really need to get rid of it... makin it look like they're just gonna give it right back to cena. GRRR!~

[TheVileOne]

You rock Hunter rider. Thanks for that file.

Its obvious Cena is going to get the belt back. That's why Edge never got a new one.

[NDX]

Giving the belt to Edge just helped get Cena back over with the crowd since they found someone they hate more. Now that is seems Cena is more over with the crowd again, he will regain the title and then most likely drop it at WrestleMania.

[The Techno Bat]

I'm tired of Cena and I enjoy Edge's heel work. I love how obnoxious, vicious, and truthful he is in his promos. Hopefully Cena doesn't get his stupid bling belt back and he can return to being a mid-carder.

I want to see new feuds and I don't need to see Cena shoved down my throat as a bland wussified champion.

What the hell was the spirit squad? That was just....Moronic and wasn't even necessary. :down

Great points, I am not a huge Cena fan either and hope he fades away for awhile so new and fresh blood can get in the title hunt. I loved the fact that we got to see Ric Flair challenge for the world title against Edge two weeks ago in the TLC, that was great.

New feuds are what the WWE needs right now, I am enjoying the HHH vs Big Show feud and I hope that gets some more time to play out, atleast a few more months.

And that spirit squad nonsense was the dumbest thing I think I have seen in a long time, right up there with David Arquette winning the wCw world title. And why is Coach and King wrestling anyway? They should be using that time to push real talent and showcase the skills of Lance Cade, Rob Conway, & Gregory Helms instead of having them get squashed and killed by The Big Show

[TheVileOne]

Cena was so hated at New Year's Revolution they were cheering Edge.

How about, face champions shouldn't hold world title belts for 9 months? While having sub-par and lame title defenses in between.

[Hunter Rider]

Glad you liked the match guys:up:

If WWE books Cena/HHH for WM22 it is suicide,all the heat Cena had will return b/c the crowd will be behind HHH
There arent a lot of options if Edge keeps the belt but my money would be on one last Flair shot

This Shawn/Vince angle has some interest to it but Vince needs a wrestler to reprisent him b/c HBK vs Vince at WM22 would be the drizzling ****s:(

[Sabretooth]

Cena should've partnered with Vince during the Elimination Chamber. That could help Cena become a credible heel by going over Michaels and screwing him over

[TheVileOne]

Glad you liked the match guys:up:

If WWE books Cena/HHH for WM22 it is suicide,all the heat Cena had will return b/c the crowd will be behind HHH
There arent a lot of options if Edge keeps the belt but my money would be on one last Flair shot

This Shawn/Vince angle has some interest to it but Vince needs a wrestler to reprisent him b/c HBK vs Vince at WM22 would be the drizzling ****s:(
It doesn't matter. This is the way WWE is going now.

[Hunter Rider]

From Alvarez:


We don’t have a lot of info for obvious reasons, but Kurt Angle may have been injured badly in a match with Mark Henry. Well, he was definitely injured, we just don’t know the severity. The rumor was that it was bad enough that a normal person would likely have to vacate the title. Of course, this is Kurt Angle, so not only will he not allow himself to be checked out, but with his mindset he tries his damndest not to even sell that there is a problem. Enough is known that he was moved into tags later in the tour. It doesn’t help that he was just given the World Title, which he has been wanting forever and has zero desire to lose. The word internally is that he’s pushing himself way too hard, doing a lot of crazy stuff, and it is such that even slowing down his pace significantly (which isn’t happening) probably wouldn’t be enough. When you consider the number of recent injuries and the fact that Edge with a torn pec was made World Champion and Big Dave with a torn lat was allowed to keep working until he ended up tearing his triceps, it seems that the chances of Vince McMahon stepping in and doing something about this latest problem are slim to none. It’s really bad in the case of Angle, because here is a guy that has built a life on disobeying doctor’s orders. Had he listened to a doctor, he wouldn’t be an Olympic gold medalist; he wouldn’t have headlined WrestleMania against Brock Lesnar; he wouldn’t even be WWE Champion today. Worse, he used to have a family to go home to, but now, with the divorce, all he has is the wrestling business, making it that much more of an obsession. It’s a terribly sad story when you consider what seems to be the inevitability.

[Hunter Rider]

It doesn't matter. This is the way WWE is going now.

Vince has only been involved in 3 matches that had any value,the one with Austin that worked with the angle,the one with HHH that made trips a big name when he stole Steph and the power and the one with Hogan which was perfect booking given the fact both men made the industry

Vince vs Shawn is not a good match,Vince needs brawl type matches and HBK isn't a brawler

[The FallenAngel]

What the hell? Do they not see that Henry is hurting people? That's really sad. Angle better watch himself, and hope he doesn't kill himself in the ring.

[Mister J]

How many guys does Mark Henry's fat ass have to injure before the WWE dumps him again...this time for good?

I understand wanting to get some return on that stupid contract they signed him to years ago, but damn. This is at least the fourth time they've trotted his flabby/stretch pec ass to graze on TV and it's never remotely worked. Get a clue, Vince.

If any hostility is detected, it's because Henry and his Grizzly Adams beard helped put Dirty 'Tista on the shelf. Consequently, I don't have nearly enough chances to use the phrase "Dirty 'Tista" in my posts.

[Hunter Rider]

Actually Batista was to blame for his own injury and my bet is Kurt went for a suplex that he shouldn't have

[Mister J]

Actually Batista was to blame for his own injury and my bet is Kurt went for a suplex that he shouldn't have

Yet both instances were marred by the presence of the ever-expanding ass of one Mark 'Sweat In My Beard' Henry.

[TheVileOne]

Quite frankly, I think its pathetic that Mark Henry comes back in and gets a main event push like this and gets to squash everyone like Rey Mysterio.

I really hope Angle isn't pushing himself more than he should. We don't need another Eddie Guerrero.

I feel really bad Angle's family is now broken up over wrestling.

[Hunter Rider]

Yet both instances were marred by the presence of the ever-expanding ass of one Mark 'Sweat In My Beard' Henry.

LOL,yeah he was there but in the Batista case he was working with a torn lat to try to get to mainia for the payoff and messed up a spot

As for Kurt,i cowered when he tried to German suplex Henry and i bet that was what caused this injury

[Mister J]

Seriously, how is Henry in the title picture? He was never anything more than a mid-carder. And now he beats Ray...clean...for the #1 spot? After his last failed WWE run, if you had told me Henry would be going for the title, I would have sworn you meant he was taking on Kobayashi. This just sucks.

[Mister J]

As for Kurt,i cowered when he tried to German suplex Henry and i bet that was what caused this injury

If I can take a pause from my Henry jokes (which I still have plenty of, by the way), someone really needs to talk to Kurt about slowing down. He's doing all these crazy spots, working like a madman, sacrificed his personal life and all for what? I understand his dedication, but there's got to be a limit. I read an interview of his where his then-wife was practically begging him to slow down or stop when things got too rough. He just replied "I'll never stop". I enjoy seeing him in action, but I just don't think this is going to end well.

[Donnie Darko]

you know, they're eventually gonna bring the brands back together, but not without one big Smackdown vs Raw match headlining a ppv ending it all. You know what I think that match needs to be...


WAR GAMES!!!

[Hunter Rider]

From PWInsider, Spoilers:


A near sell-out crowd, much like Charlotte the night before. Only scattered open seats from what I saw.

Dark Match:

*William Regal pinned David Flair with a running knee to the head

Velocity:

*The Gymini (w/ Simon Dean) defeated Jason Jones & ? Moore when Moore was pinned; after the bout, the Gymini hit the Cross Trainer on Jones

*Bobby Lashley pinned Brad Attitude with the Dominator

*WWE Cruiserweight Champion Kid Kash & Jamie Noble defeated Paul London & Brian Kendrick when Kendrick submitted to Noble's dragon sleeper. Good match with some nice high spots to the floor. Kash was very over as a heel.

Smackdown:

*Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Mark Henry (w/ Daivari) - Rey started the show off with an in-ring promo in which he said he knew he was the underdog in this rematch and in the upcoming Royal Rumble. And while he admitted to being small in nature, he said he has a big heart. He dedicated his performance and win in the Royal Rumble to Eddie Guerrero. Rey wore Eddie's shirt to the ring and there were a lot of Eddie chants during the promo. As far as the match, it was very fast paced with Rey dominating, using a hit-and-run offense which kept Henry off guard. Henry eventually caught Rey and hit the powerslam for the win. Daivari did guest commentary for the match. After the bout, two referees helped Rey from the ring.

Randy Orton, Booker T, and Sharmell were shown backstage in which Booker offered to pay Randy back his favor by interfering in his upcoming match with Chris Benoit. Orton declined the offer, saying he could beat Benoit on his own, but said he might cash in the favor at the Royal Rumble, especially if Booker and Orton are the last two in the ring. Orton walked off and Booker and Sharmell did not look pleased with that idea.

Footage from last weekend's Smackdown tour of Mexico was shown, specifically of Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio Jr., and El Hijo del Santo in the ring paying tribute to Eddie Guerrero.

Super Crazy & Psychosis vs. James & Chad Dick vs. Nunzio & Vito (Royal Rumble Qualifying Match)- Crazy pinned Nunzio after a wheelbarrow-facebuster double team.

The Rob Van Dam Royal Rumble vignette was shown.

A Royal Rumble Flashback recapped Chris Benoit's victory in 2004, a perfect lead-in to....

Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton (No Holds Barred, Falls Count Anywhere) - Great match, as is usual when these two are in the ring together. Started scientifically at first but eventually went to the floor with Orton using a trash can lid and dropping Benoit across the commentary table. The finish was fantastic. Benoit went for the diving headbutt but Orton blocked by raising the trash can lid. Orton got to his feet first and set Benoit up for the RKO but Benoit shoved him off into the ropes, quickly picked up the trash can lid, smashed it over Orton's head as he ran back off the ropes, and applied the Crossface. After several seconds of frantically stretching for the ropes, Orton tapped. Big pop for Benoit's win.

Several Royal Rumble promos were shown throughout the taping, including Road Warrior Animal, Matt Hardy, and Bobby Lashley.

Finlay vs. Sho Funaki - Finlay won the match with a Musclebuster but the referee reversed the decision when Finley assaulted his opponent after the bout. Finlay then grabbed the mic, said he came to fight and cut a promo on the fans before hitting a second Musclebuster and leaving ringside.

JBL and Jillian Hall were shown backstage (mere moments after I saw them enter the limo; I sat behind the stage) with both talking about the Boogeyman. JBL assured Jillian she had nothing to worry about.

A trailer for Kane's "See No Evil" was shown. Nothing too out of the ordinary as far as horror movies go.

John Bradshaw Layfield (w/ Jillian Hall) fought Scotty 2 Hotty to a no contest when the Boogeyman's music hit and JBL had a bucket full of worms dropped on him. We're talking "Carrie" . but with worms. They filled the ring. As JBL was becoming freaked out by that, the Boogeyman came out from under the ring and scared JBL to the point where he fell backwards onto the worms, freaking him out even more. He and Jillian eventually ran backstage as the Boogeyman had dinner.

A music video was shown to promote WWE 24/7 to the tune of Van Halen's "Right Now". Very well done piece capturing key moments in WWE, WCW, NWA, and ECW history. Celebrities like Mike Tyson, Arnold, and Muhammad Ali were featured as well.

Mark Henry & Daivari were interviewed backstage about Henry's title match with Kurt Angle at the Royal Rumble.

Melina confronted Teddy Long backstage, showing him her taped up ankle, the result of Kurt Angle's assault the previous week.

World Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle vs. WWE Smackdown! Tag Team Champions Johnny Nitro & Joey Mercury (w/ Melina) (Handicap match) - Angle forced Mercury to tap to the ankle lock after belly-to-belly suplexing Nitro over the top to the floor. After the bout, Mark Henry & Daivari came out, with Angle taking the fight to Henry and landing the Angle Slam. The champ applied the ankle lock but, to his shock, Henry powered out of it and kicked Angle to the floor. Henry, Daivari, and MNM stood in the ring and taunted Angle, with Henry signaling that the belt would soon be his, to close the TV broadcast.

After several moments, Angle grabbed the mic and said if Henry thought he was so tough, how would he like a title shot right then and there? Henry accepted and we have our dark match main event....

World Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle vs. Mark Henry (w/ Daivari & MNM) - Not bad but very short. Angle reapplies the ankle lock and all the heels come in for the DQ. Moments later, Rey Mysterio Jr. runs out to make the save, eventually hitting a 619 on Daivari, Nitro, & Mercury at the same time. Moments later, Angle set Henry up so Rey could hit the same move on him. Angle and Rey then chanted "You Suck" in unison with the fans toward Henry, Daivari, and MNM. After the heels left, Angle and Rey posed, with Rey grabbing the belt and doing the Angle spinning pose bit. Angle and Rey then hugged and left the ring together.

[Colossal Spoons]

HR; I know Batista was most at fault for his injury but this news about Kurt is too much. This fat bastard needs to go.

[Hunter Rider]

HR; I know Batista was most at fault for his injury but this news about Kurt is too much. This fat bastard needs to go.

Well if Kurt insisted on a suplex spot it is really his fault,not that i want Henry to stay around