Wrestling

[Sarge 2.0]

The bright side:

Now Taker and Angle can have matches with each other again. Yay. :)
:up:

[Sabretooth]

Now Taker and Angle can have matches with each other again. Yay. :)
I was kinda suprised to see Undertaker there after all these rumors. I'm sure he's not gonna say anything about them,so who knows?

[Sarge 2.0]

I was kinda suprised to see Undertaker there after all these rumors. I'm sure he's not gonna say anything about them,so who knows?Yeah...I think he's just gonna keep quiet, 'cause Vince would unleash the ****ing fury on him. :o

[DOG LIPS]

Sadly, I'm looking more forward to SD this week than RAW. That's very odd. :(

[Eric Draven]

Looking at the results, I'm kind of happy that Rey won the Rumble. I had a feeling he was going to win anyways, but it's good for Rey. Especially since he basically took over the role Eddie did.....

I'm also happy with Helms winning the CW title, something Helms should've won a loooong time ago.

I do not like Cena winning the title back though. Especially so quickly. I actually thought Cena was better not as the champion. And that's true for a lot of faces. The majority of the time, they're better when they're chasing after the title and after they win the title, it just goes downhill from there. Plus, Edge made a great heel champion. I mean this was a guy that fans loved to boo and probably tune in each week to see Cena kick his ass. I don't think it's a coincidence that Raw had it's highest ratings the past three or so weeks.....

[Sabretooth]

Sadly, I'm looking more forward to SD this week than RAW. That's very odd. :(
Lately I've been finding SD! better than Raw. Raw's main events are so rushed because they spend about an hour on promos and about 45 minutes on actual matches. Smackdown may not have as much star power,but they've got better wrestlers.

[Mister J]

Guess Taker really wants that match against Angle at WM. Not sure how I feel about that if it's for the title.

Cena will need some work to be legit, but I haven't seen the value in Edge at the top of the card yet. I've tried to put aside my personal disdain for the character and be objective, but at the end of the day, I can't stand him. He's done nothing but be a whiny, sniveling, sneaky bastard he they pushed him to main event. He actually had some cred immediately after he won Money In The Bank, but they waited like 10 months to cash it. He got stale. Plus the way he won the title had 'Transitional Champion' all over it.

My feelings aside, how much of this venom here is anti-Cena as opposed to pro-Edge. just curious.

[DOG LIPS]

I wonder if the next feud will be Cena/HHH?

[Eric Draven]

Guess Taker really wants that match against Angle at WM. Not sure how I feel about that if it's for the title.

ICena will need some work to be legit, but I haven't seen the value in Edge at the top of the card yet. I've tried to put aside my personal disdain for the character and be objective, but at the end of the day, I can't stand him. He's done nothing but be a whiny, sniveling, sneaky bastard he they pushed him to main event. He actually had some cred immediately after he won Money In The Bank, but they waited like 10 months to cash it. He got stale. Plus the way he won the title had 'Transitional Champion' all over it.

My feelings aside, how much of this venom here is anti-Cena as opposed to pro-Edge. just curious.

That's actually why I think Edge is making a good heel at the moment. He's being whiny, sniveling, etc. that I just want Cena to kick his ass. Yeah, sure, it may actually be Adam Copeland being himself, but still, Edge has made a pretty effective heel.....

[Mister J]

What happened to ol' Hunter in the Rumble anyway. Who tossed him on his keister?

[DOG LIPS]

Rey tossed HHH I think.

[Sabretooth]

Edge would be alot better if he ditched Lita. I realize she was part of the reason of why he's so hated today but the thing with Matt is over and Lita needs to get back in the ring.

[Sabretooth]

I wonder if the next feud will be Cena/HHH?
*imagines Triple H hitting Cena with the pedigree to gain the WWE title at WM22*



Ahhhhh,if only.:o

[DOG LIPS]

I'm not looking forward to the Cena/Edge encounter on RAW. It will probably just end up being a lot of Edge crying and Lita-whore jokes.

[Mister J]

That's actually why I think Edge is making a good heel at the moment. He's being whiny, sniveling, etc. that I just want Cena to kick his ass. Yeah, sure, it may actually be Adam Copeland being himself, but still, Edge has made a pretty effective heel.....

That may be true, 'cause I find myself wanting Cena or anyone to beat the living hell out of him. I just can't stand him. But it seems to be different (at least for me) from the way I usually don't like heels. It's not 'OK, here's the bad guy cheater. Let's boo him'. It's more of "I don't even want this guy on the show. Just get rid of him". I don't think I've ever accepted Edge as main event cause I didn't feel there was a proper buildup.

[DOG LIPS]

*imagines Triple H hitting Cena with the pedigree to gain the WWE title at WM22*



Ahhhhh,if only.:o
If only, indeed. :(

I can't believe I complained about HHH having the title too long and getting tired of him. HHH is NOTHING compared to Cena.

[LastSunrise1981]

**** YOU WWE! You want to give the title back to that piece of crap Cena? I sincerely hope the fans boo him out of the arena tomorrow, because Edge was very over and I was enjoying his reign.

I'm glad Rey won, but this is ridiculous. Triple H, I've never asked this before of you, but PLEASE bury Cena at WM and please send him to mid-card Hell. At this point and time, I'd rather see you with the WWE than the bland ass vanilla ice champion.

I should've known Vince was going to **** it up some kind of way. Congratulations Vince, you've proven that you're dumber than Paris Hilton in an English Honors class.

[Eric Draven]

I wonder if the next feud will be Cena/HHH?

Probably. Which means Edge might be pushed back again. Kind of sucks because the past three weeks did show me that Edge could be a bigger heel than Hunter....

[Mister J]

I'm not looking forward to the Cena/Edge encounter on RAW. It will probably just end up being a lot of Edge crying and Lita-whore jokes.

I think we can all count on that. They gotta come up with something good, not this predictable crap.

SOP says Edge will want to use his rematch clause tomorrow. Maybe they'll push it to No Way Out (if that's even a Raw PPV anymore). Who knows. This better be good.

[Eric Draven]

That may be true, 'cause I find myself wanting Cena or anyone to beat the living hell out of him. I just can't stand him. But it seems to be different (at least for me) from the way I usually don't like heels. It's not 'OK, here's the bad guy cheater. Let's boo him'. It's more of "I don't even want this guy on the show. Just get rid of him". I don't think I've ever accepted Edge as main event cause I didn't feel there was a proper buildup.

Well it does take time. I mean I couldn't buy Bradshaw as a main-eventer when he first went heel a couple years back, but eventually, he worked his way to main-event status. And JBL had even less of a build-up to main-event status that Edge had.

It's weird that JBL was given a year-long title reign while Edge was only given a three week reign......

[Sabretooth]

If only, indeed. :(

I can't believe I complained about HHH having the title too long and getting tired of him. HHH is NOTHING compared to Cena.
Yeah. I would gladly allow HHH to hold the title for a damn year if it meant burying Cena to super low mid card.

[DOG LIPS]

The worst part about RAW tomorrow will be the crowd going bananas everytime Cena spouts out a dumbass catch-phrase. You know damn well he's going to get a huge positive reaction just because everyone (Except a few chosen ones. :p) are on his crotch again. :mad::mad:

[DOG LIPS]

Yeah. I would gladly allow HHH to hold the title for a damn year if it meant burying Cena to super low mid card.
Maybe this was all HHH's idea. He said "They keep booing me and posting on forums they are tired of me.... let's teach them a lesson that will make them love me like a piece of ass."

[Mister J]

Well it does take time. I mean I couldn't buy Bradshaw as a main-eventer when he first went heel a couple years back, but eventually, he worked his way to main-event status. And JBL had even less of a build-up to main-event status that Edge had.

It's weird that JBL was given a year-long title reign while Edge was only given a three week reign......

I didn't buy it initially either (JBL). But I don't remember despising JBL as much. Heck, I remember when Triple H first got the belt from Foley. I didn't buy that either. But there, those two characters at least had me intrigued despite my reservations.

I'd like to think I'm not so petty as not to be harboring resentment towards Edge because he's an adulterous, sneaky bastard. That doesn't seem like something I'd do; frankly I don't care. But if Edge were to just wallow in mid-card mediocrity from here on out, I can't say it would bother me. Maybe I'm missing something.

[Mister J]

Kind of sucks because the past three weeks did show me that Edge could be a bigger heel than Hunter....

Really.:confused:

[Eric Draven]

Maybe this was all HHH's idea. He said "They keep booing me and posting on forums they are tired of me.... let's teach them a lesson that will make them love me like a piece of ass."

You know, I keep thinking the same thing.....

[Sabretooth]

Maybe this was all HHH's idea. He said "They keep booing me and posting on forums they are tired of me.... let's teach them a lesson that will make them love me like a piece of ass."
I must make love to his nose.:(

[Eric Draven]

Really.:confused:

Well, not really. But right now, I would rather see Edge as the number 1 heel on Raw than Triple H. I actually liked Triple H's role when he came back - fighting in some feuds with Ric Flair or Big Show.

And with Edge as the main heel, it provided something different. Like I said before, ratings where at a high the past three weeks when Edge was champion. Do you think the ratings might stay that way if they continue on with Triple H as the number 1 heel again with that pervading been-there, done-that Triple H in the main event at Wrestlemania again scenario?

[DOG LIPS]

I must make love to his nose.:(
Get in line, b****. :mad:

[Mister J]

Do you think the ratings might stay that way if they continue on with Triple H as the number 1 heel again with that pervading been-there, done-that Triple H in the main event at Wrestlemania again scenario?

Nope.

I honestly don't know what they could do. I'm know I'm sick of the whole 'Triple H is indomitable and makes everyone else look stupid while he beats the crap out of them with a sledgehammer'. Needs to be something new.

[Sabretooth]

Get in line, b****. :mad:
Fine,I'll just go in Edge's line. Not like there's gonna be many people there after he cheated on his wives.;)

[DOG LIPS]

Fine,I'll just go in Edge's line. Not like there's gonna be many people there after he cheated on his wives.;)
OMG... I just thought of Edge's package on the live sex night. :(:eek:


*Barfs*

[Sabretooth]

OMG... I just thought of Edge's package on the live sex night. :(:eek:


*Barfs*
At least they made up for it by showing Lita under the covers :up:

[DOG LIPS]

At least they made up for it by showing Lita under the covers :up:
Indeed. :up:


Well, hopefully something freaking amazing will happen tomorrow that will make this all better. Like the Rock comes back and wins the title from Cena. :(

[Sabretooth]

Indeed. :up:


Well, hopefully something freaking amazing will happen tomorrow that will make this all better. Like the Rock comes back and wins the title from Cena. :(
It'd be impossible for him to find time,I mean he's already booked making all of these crappy films.:(

[DOG LIPS]

It'd be impossible for him to find time,I mean he's already booked making all of these crappy films.:(
That son of a *****. :(

[Eric Draven]

Nope.

I honestly don't know what they could do. I'm know I'm sick of the whole 'Triple H is indomitable and makes everyone else look stupid while he beats the crap out of them with a sledgehammer'. Needs to be something new.

They did have the chance for something new. They could've had a new heel on Raw close to Triple H's level. But nooooo, they had to put Triple H back on the top :mad:

Now I know why they said "The winner of the RR may not be in the main event at WM", because the main event at WM is gonna be Cena vs Triple H :mad: :(

[Sabretooth]

That son of a *****. :(
Hey,there's always Kane.

Oh wait,he's filming movies too.

There's always Chris Jericho.

Oh wait,he's on some tour for his band.:(

There's always Big Show.

God dammit,I think he's filming something too.

**** you Vince.:mad:

[DOG LIPS]

I just hope they get RVD up and running again soon. I'd love to see him beat Cena's ass a time or two.

[DOG LIPS]

Hey,there's always Kane.

Oh wait,he's filming movies too.

There's always Chris Jericho.

Oh wait,he's on some tour for his band.:(

There's always Big Show.

God dammit,I think he's filming something too.

**** you Vince.:mad:
Don't worry, Stone Cold will kick some....oh wait..... **** you Vince! :mad:

[Eric Draven]

Somehow, I see RVD wrestling back in the midcard again, probably in a feud with Carlito....

How kickass would it be though, if they could just have a regular Cena-Triple H match and a WM main event of Edge vs RVD?

[LastSunrise1981]

I just hope they get RVD up and running again soon. I'd love to see him beat Cena's ass a time or two.

You know, I sincerely hope TNA responds to this by giving Christian the world title. Now that would be awesome. :up:

[Sabretooth]

Don't worry, Stone Cold will kick some....oh wait..... **** you Vince! :mad:
They could always go for Hogan,oh wait he's got that reality show. Son of a *****.:mad:

[Mister J]

Is the thing about the RR winner not necessarily going for the title at WM official word or dirt sheet?

[Eric Draven]

Is the thing about the RR winner not necessarily going for the title at WM official word or dirt sheet?

The way the thing was worded says a lot:

"Nonetheless, since there is talk that the Royal Rumble winner won't end up in the WrestleMania main-event, the fact that the WrestleMania main-events are "set" does not necessarily mean the Rumble winner won't be a surprise."

So yeah, this means Rey could still fight for the World Championship at Wrestlemania, it's just that his match won't be considered the main event match at WM 22.....

[Mister J]

That's just wacky. Rey needs to get his shot. How that plays into this potential UT-Angle thing, which I'm convinced of more than ever since UT destroyed the damn ring tonight, who knows.

[White_Howling]

the wwe reviews isn't out yet..

does anyone know how angel won the match? first of all was it even a good match?

[punishermax]

No the match was not good, and Angle won with a roll up after Henry hit his head on an exposed turnbuckle. The Taker stuff and the end was freakin' awesome. Cena/Edge sucked as I thought it would, I'm was never a fan of Rey so him winning the Rumble didn't make me happy. The Rumble match itself was pretty good. JBL/Boogeyman also sucked, as did Mickie/Ashley, but the Cruiserweight open saved the night and was quite fantastic, thank god WWE actually let their cruiserweights do something.

[Eric Draven]

That's just wacky. Rey needs to get his shot. How that plays into this potential UT-Angle thing, which I'm convinced of more than ever since UT destroyed the damn ring tonight, who knows.

Oh, he's definitely getting a title shot, it's just that the World championship match will be secondary to the WWE title match.

And ugh, that whole UT thing at the end of the Royal Rumble just made me groan :down

[Mister J]

Oh, he's definitely getting a title shot, it's just that the World championship match will be secondary to the WWE title match.

And ugh, that whole UT thing at the end of the Royal Rumble just made me groan :down

Ahhh. I get it now. Anybody suppose Rey will jump to Raw. Wait, wait, wait. That makes no sense. Then again, that kinda fits in to Vince's bizarro booking.

[Eric Draven]

Ahhh. I get it now. Anybody suppose Rey will jump to Raw. Wait, wait, wait. That makes no sense. Then again, that kinda fits in to Vince'ss Bizarro booking.

Nah, I highly doubt that will happen. Besides, Rey is the main Smackdown face at the moment....

[The Ghoul]

Now, I was at the rumble & it was medicore. I wasn't on the comp all day so Rey winning was a huge surprise. I wasn't surprised about Cena (in fact I believe I was the first to say it was the only reason he didn't change the belt) I agree that JBL shouldn't have been squashed but I was just glad it was short. Truth is boogeyman is LESS impresive in person. Not just his wrestling which couldn't get worse, but also his entrance is pretty boring in person. The 6 man cruiser match was awesome... just awesome. All in all I expected more out of the ****in Royal Rumble, w/e it was just what wwe does now.

[Go Web Go!]

Hello there, gentlemen. I just got back from the Rumble and although it wasn't a great show it was pretty cool to attend. It was my first time at any WWE event so I took plenty of video (shhh!) and pictures. Maybe I'll share once I sort them all out and what not.

Anyway, the Rumble match itself was great as was seeing The Undertaker in person...finally. The rest of the show was, well, MEH. I was expecting more out of both championship matches but they were still entertaining. I had a good time whether it was a good or bad ppv.

Well, like I said, I hope to share some pics soon and also resume posting here consistantly. I know I've disappeared only to make my triumphant return numerous times (like the Undertaker?) Ha. See you guys around.

[White_Howling]

i love it how angel is magically a face now!!!

anyway some sillly questions

do wrestlers get free room and board?

also where do they stay while their touring? hotels? do they share rooms?

[Sarge 2.0]

i love it how angel is magically a face now!!!

anyway some sillly questions

do wrestlers get free room and board?

also where do they stay while their touring? hotels? do they share rooms?He turned face on Raw last week. :confused:

[White_Howling]

i thought he turned face on smackdown.. must have missed a show

[NDX]

Damn glad I fell asleep at 6PM last night.

Well, I didn't see this posted here, so:

Credit: PWInsider

-- Everyone was told backstage ahead of time that SmackDown will be staying on the air and won’t be going anywhere for the time being. They will be keeping their Friday night timeslot. Vince was telling the guys in the locker room that they aren’t going anywhere and that everything is fine.

-- The reason that CM Punk hasn’t been brought up to the WWE main roster is that they feel he still isn’t on their level. Stephanie McMahon refers to him as “The king of the indies”, but not good enough for WWE’s main roster yet.

[kane9321]

rey won the rr..bs
i wanted edge to beat cena,so HHH could beat the holy hell outta edge..well I'm glad crappy edge lost the belt

[Go Web Go!]

Why is Rey winning the Rumble "b.s.?"

[The Ghoul]

-- The reason that CM Punk hasn’t been brought up to the WWE main roster is that they feel he still isn’t on their level. Stephanie McMahon refers to him as “The king of the indies”, but not good enough for WWE’s main roster yet.

That's because Stephanie Mcmahon is a stupid ****.

[Sarge 2.0]

rey won the rr..bs
i wanted edge to beat cena,so HHH could beat the holy hell outta edge..well I'm glad crappy edge lost the beltHow old are you? :confused:

[DOG LIPS]

Poor Pepsi guy. :(:(:(

[Sarge 2.0]

-- The reason that CM Punk hasn’t been brought up to the WWE main roster is that they feel he still isn’t on their level. Stephanie McMahon refers to him as “The king of the indies”, but not good enough for WWE’s main roster yet.**** that. Punk is lightyears ahead of most of the guys on the WWE roster.

[Lobo]

got that right, I'm glad I decided not to order this ppv. I like Rey but I dont like him winning the rumble :o

Should've been Orton :mad:

[NDX]

That's because Stephanie Mcmahon is a stupid ****.

Damn, I knew I forgot to add that to that post.

[The Ghoul]

**** that. Punk is lightyears ahead of most of the guys on the WWE roster.

That is why I say stephanie Mcmahon is a dump stupid ****ing ****. that is now my new motto in life. Ladies & gentlemen of the hype, say it loud

Stephanie Mcmahon is a dumb stupid ****ing ****!

[Colossal Spoons]

Why is Rey winning the Rumble "b.s.?"

I don't mean to sound insensitive and everybody who was on the boards when Eddie died knows that I'm one of the many that'll really really miss him but what Rey's doing ain't right. always dedicating matches and the rumble to Eddie is nice and symbolic and all but it gives Rey this "sap" factor. like nobody wants him to lose.....cuz he's fightin for Eddie. Him winning the Rumble was cool; I like Rey, butI'm not down with the fact that he won it "for Eddie" AND he came down the ramp in the lowrider. Just my 2 pennies.

[NDX]

I hope Punk is getting paid well in OVW limbo.

How long and much did he sign for?

[Sarge 2.0]

got that right, I'm glad I decided not to order this ppv. I like Rey but I dont like him winning the rumble :o

Should've been Orton :mad: What's with all the Rey *****ing now? Christ, I'll say it again:

Every other choice in the final four was predictable. Plus Rey deserves more than any of them, seeing as they're all former big time champs themselves.

[Eric Draven]

I hope Punk is getting paid well in OVW limbo.

How long and much did he sign for?

Sometimes it might work out for the best if they're stuck in "OVW limbo". Look at Ken Kennedy. I think he was around there for a while and he turned out quite well.....

[Eric Draven]

What's with all the Rey *****ing now? Christ, I'll say it again:

Yeah, I totally agree. Rey winning the Rumble was one of the hilights of the show. Rey IS Smackdown. Of all the wrestlers, he's probably the only one who stuck around in one show the entiriety since the brand split. Rey is probably the most recognizable face on Smackdown and I would love to see him as the World champion on that show.

[Donnie Darko]

I'm not going to disagree with the comment about Rey as SD champion, but at the same time, I think Rey (the ultimate underdog in the heavyweight division) would work so much better as some CHASING the gold than someone actually holding the gold (which is actually true of most faces, but even moreso with Rey)

[Mr. Socko]

Very happy for Rey Mysterio, him winning the Rumble was the biggest surprise of the night and definitely the biggest Royal Rumble surprise winner of all time too, when it was down to the 4 people, Rey was the last person I thought would win. Great job Rey Rey, I'm looking forward to seeing him at Wrestlemania but I heard there are plans to make him lose the shot at No Way Out.

[punishermax]

What's with all the Rey *****ing now? Christ, I'll say it again:

Its mainly because of people having differing opinions on what makes a champion or championship material. I myself have never liked Rey, its just me, most people do like him but I don't. The main reason I don't like him is because of his size and lack of mic skills, I just don't think 5'4" tall and World Champion mix together very well. Its along the same lines as that most people don't like HHH but I'm a huge HHH mark, its just a matter of opinions and now that Rey has won the Rumble the *****ing came to the forefront.

[Go Web Go!]

I don't mean to sound insensitive and everybody who was on the boards when Eddie died knows that I'm one of the many that'll really really miss him but what Rey's doing ain't right. always dedicating matches and the rumble to Eddie is nice and symbolic and all but it gives Rey this "sap" factor. like nobody wants him to lose.....cuz he's fightin for Eddie. Him winning the Rumble was cool; I like Rey, butI'm not down with the fact that he won it "for Eddie" AND he came down the ramp in the lowrider. Just my 2 pennies.

Well, I agree that it can sometimes get a little "sappy" but his entrance last night was pretty cool. The Rumble is probably the 2nd biggest ppv of the year and if they want Rey to roll up on a lowrider I wouldn't have a problem as long as it isn't done night in and night out. If he wants to point to the sky, fine, but dedicating every single one of his matches or saying this and that about Eddie watching down on him all the time is a little much.

Either way, I like the guy and him winning the Rumble is breath of fresh air. It would be interesting to see him jump to RAW and take on Cena at Mania although he's expected to lose his title shot somehow by April.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah,I mean Chris Benoit does alot of things like Eddie Guerrero (recently he threw a chair into Booker's hands and then started holding his leg like Booker hit him) but you don't see him doing what Rey is doing.I thought it was kind of a cheap shot when they had Rey pray for Eddie to help him during his match with Big Show,and then they ram Eddie's lowrider into the entrance way?

I don't mind if Rey dedicates a Royal Rumble win or a Wrestlemania win to Eddie Guerrero,but not every single match.

On another note,if Rey loses his title shot,would anyone else want to see a Benoit vs. Rey match?

[Hunter Rider]

Im not sure how many of you actually saw it but i watched the PPV
It opened strong with the 6 way CW match was great and the they wrestled like they used to with big bumps and aerial moves,London got over huge with a SSP to the outside
Why was JBL buried in a squash match with a talentless piece of ****:confused:
women match was OK
Rumble was a lot of fun,HHH was the star,Shane vs HBK was set up and Rey won with two great eliminations of HHH and Orton,
RVD got a huge pop

Oh dear,Edge vs Cena-Cena has the most contrived entrance Ive seen in a long time and then proceeds to have what is at first a 3 start match as Edge plays the talented cocky heel to perfection beating Cena all the way with smarts and athleticism
Then Cena does his generic 4 spots in the same order and wins,no build no drama just a formulaic match and he got booed quite a bit

Angle/Henry was booked with Kurt like a mad loon using chairs to win and it all out sucked for the 8 minutes it was on
Then the panto started,god im bored of Taker:(

[NDX]

Sources: WrestlingObserver, PWI Insider, etc.

Kurt Angle's lower back and neck are in really bad shape these days. His mentality won't allow him to take it easy, especially since he has the title now.

Rey Mysterio is Smackdown's biggest rating draw as the quarter hour ratings are often at it's highest when he is on television. They are well above everyone else on the show.

Former WCW announcer Mark Madden suffered a heart attack while at a youth deck hockey game in Reading, PA today. Madden is currently a talk radio host in Pittsburgh.

Prior to OVW developmental wrestler Dean Visk getting released, WWE had contacted The Warlord (Terry Szopinski) to ask him if he'd like to make a comeback and tag team with Visk. The Warlord is 46 years old and still competes on wrestling shows on occasion. He's still very muscular as well.

Tatanka made a surprise appearance during the Royal Rumble match, so it looks like he is officially back on the WWE roster as he finally made a television appearance. He appeared at a few Raw brand house shows a few weeks ago. He has lost the excess weight that he had been carrying when he unexpectedly showed up on Raw back in the summer. Tatanka signed a contract with WWE a few months ago.

WWE trademarked the name "Armando Alejandro Estrada" last week. OVW wrestler Osama Rodrigues Alejandro will be using that name when he eventually gets called up to the main WWE roster. His gimmick will be loosely based on Fidel Castro as he will have a Latin American dictator character.

Shawn Michaels recently ripped on baseball, claiming wrestling is an honest sport and baseball is dishonest. He was quoted saying "You see, Barry Bonds needed steroids to hit 73 home runs" and, "everything I do is real." He later said "Everyone picks on wrestling but baseball gets a free pass. That's why Selig was before Congress with how many major league active player heart attack deaths in the last 20 years?" He also noted what's great about wrestling compared to other sports is that 50-year-old guys like Hogan can still wrestle.

Tonight's show in Orlando will be a Supershow, taping both RAW and SmackDown!. SmackDown! will be taped first, followed by the live RAW. WWE was very close to making a celebrity deal for a debut tonight and tie-in through Mania of someone nobody would expect. Not a huge name.

[CAGE]

Is Gold Dust coming back?

[DOG LIPS]

I could of sworn I heard a chant of "Boorriinngg." in the middle of the RVD/Snitsky match. :confused:

[NDX]

I think it was due to Snitzky dominating most of the match and RVD taking a beating. Looks like RVD will need a few weeks to get back to his old self, he started that match of slow and didn't look good till half way through.

[Go Web Go!]

WWE trademarked the name "Armando Alejandro Estrada" last week. OVW wrestler Osama Rodrigues Alejandro will be using that name when he eventually gets called up to the main WWE roster. His gimmick will be loosely based on Fidel Castro as he will have a Latin American dictator character.



Ugh. Do these people ever learn? They scrapped the whole Muhammed Hassan angle after all the controversy surrounding it. Why do they scrap and then bring back old ideas with new twists/superstars? It's getting ridiculous.

[CAGE]

I could of sworn I heard a chant of "Boorriinngg." in the middle of the RVD/Snitsky match. :confused:

Yep I think I heard the same thing. Im just glad RVD is back, I hope WWE has something in store for him.

[DOG LIPS]

I swear, if Edge wins the title tonight I will never question Vince again. :(








...Maybe...

[DOG LIPS]

I kind of like Mickie James recently, I wish they would hurry up and end this stupid psycho/lesbian thing already.

[Eklypze]

man im pretty psyched that Warlord is coming back i used to love him i didnt see tha Tatanka stuff on raw but he was really good back in tha day but i think it is a shame how they are doing Mickie James ive never seen any of here stuff as Alexis Laree but she seems like a really good wrestler

[Eklypze]

and i hope that Edge gets the title back i really dont wanna see the belt on Cena anymore

[DOG LIPS]

man im pretty psyched that Warlord is coming back i used to love him i didnt see tha Tatanka stuff on raw but he was really good back in tha day but i think it is a shame how they are doing Mickie James ive never seen any of here stuff as Alexis Laree but she seems like a really good wrestler
http://www.toydreams.co.uk/images/wwf/carded/warlord_a.jpg

[Donnie Darko]

this is gonna sound sad...

I'm a cheerleader at my college, and the whole time the Spirit Squad was out tonight (this was my first time seeing them) I was paying attention to everything they did. Dear Lord, they are the worst guy cheerleaders I've ever seen.

[Donnie Darko]

http://www.toydreams.co.uk/images/wwf/carded/warlord_a.jpg

damn, I had that figure... those are the worst proportions ever... look at the arms vs the legs

[NDX]

Still not a fan of Mickie James.

I like the Warlord, and wish he would get hired to do the NY locals, but I don't want to see him back in WWE.

So far the evening has been entertaining, but seeing Carlito and Masters lose was a real downer.

[DOG LIPS]

*Yawn*

Booorriiinnggg.

Oh well, I hope SD kicks some ass. :(

[Donnie Darko]

I missed the majority of the show... who did they lose to?

[DOG LIPS]

I missed the majority of the show... who did they lose to?
Kane & Show.

[Eric Draven]

Ugh, a very lackluster Raw tonight. I think the only segments I enjoyed was the Shelton-Shelton's momma-Goldust segments. Especially since they're leading into a Shelton-Flair match :up:

Everything else about Raw just ho-hum.....

[Go Web Go!]

http://www.toydreams.co.uk/images/wwf/carded/warlord_a.jpg

I had the Bushwhackers, :o

[The Ghoul]

I don't mean to sound insensitive and everybody who was on the boards when Eddie died knows that I'm one of the many that'll really really miss him but what Rey's doing ain't right. always dedicating matches and the rumble to Eddie is nice and symbolic and all but it gives Rey this "sap" factor. like nobody wants him to lose.....cuz he's fightin for Eddie. Him winning the Rumble was cool; I like Rey, butI'm not down with the fact that he won it "for Eddie" AND he came down the ramp in the lowrider. Just my 2 pennies.

I agree full on. I get a little bit of Rey being this sympathetic underdog just using Eddie's name, too. Benoit & Chavo use things to tribute Eddie, but Rey is the only one vocal about it. I noticed it a lot more last night when some annoying 4 year old girl sitting behind me with a "Do it for Eddie, Rey" sign screaming her head off when Rey would be attacked in the Rumble... Anyway, I was still happy Rey won.

[punishermax]

Ugh, a very lackluster Raw tonight. I think the only segments I enjoyed was the Shelton-Shelton's momma-Goldust segments. Especially since they're leading into a Shelton-Flair match :up:

Everything else about Raw just ho-hum.....

Woooooo.....I think Shelton may be getting his I-C title back.

[The Punisher]

It's possible.

[The Ghoul]

Im not sure how many of you actually saw it but i watched the PPV
It opened strong with the 6 way CW match was great and the they wrestled like they used to with big bumps and aerial moves,London got over huge with a SSP to the outside.

Oh dear,Edge vs Cena-Cena has the most contrived entrance Ive seen in a long time and then proceeds to have what is at first a 3 start match as Edge plays the talented cocky heel to perfection beating Cena all the way with smarts and athleticism
Then Cena does his generic 4 spots in the same order and wins,no build no drama just a formulaic match and he got booed quite a bit

I mentioned th CW match in my review of attending RR. the words I Used I believe were "Awesome... Just awesome." I started losing my voice from popping so loud for that SSP to the outside.

As for Cena, during the build up, I kept screaming "What the **** is that montrosity!," in regards to the entrance thing. And the confetti made me think he was trying to get a Japanese pop From where I was sitting I heard a lot more Cena chants then boos. It was mixed (believe me I was involved very loudly) but I heard more Cena... Hey GWG did you have crappy seats? & if so did you see the fight break out in the top section?

[The Punisher]

Wait so did Cena retain or not?

[The Punisher]

I mean did he win on Raw.

[The Ghoul]

I mean did he win on Raw.

I just got home from work an hour ago so i am watching on tivo as we spea-... err... I mean type. so I don't know

BTW are they trying to initiate the start of a Masters face turn?

[The Shredder]

It appeared like Edge had it won, but Cena came back and was ready to give Edge the F-U, but Lita ran in with the belt and accidently knocked Edge with the title belt whilst Cena had Edge up for the F-U.

Cena and Edge had a confused look on their face while both were wondering why Lita seemingly decided to hit Edge instead of Cena.

So yes, he retained. :)

[NDX]

I personally wouldn't mind seeing Masters in a face role for a bit, just see how it fits him. If it doesn't work, make him a heel again. Should be easy for the WWE to do.

[Go Web Go!]

I mentioned th CW match in my review of attending RR. the words I Used I believe were "Awesome... Just awesome." I started losing my voice from popping so loud for that SSP to the outside.

As for Cena, during the build up, I kept screaming "What the **** is that montrosity!," in regards to the entrance thing. And the confetti made me think he was trying to get a Japanese pop From where I was sitting I heard a lot more Cena chants then boos. It was mixed (believe me I was involved very loudly) but I heard more Cena... Hey GWG did you have crappy seats? & if so did you see the fight break out in the top section?

My seats were alright. The thing that sucked about them was that I was on the side of the main entrance so I didn't have the best view when it came time to see who was coming out when. Oh yeah, not to mention I had this bright light blinding me and about everyone in my section (306) I still had a pretty good time though. Didn't see any fights. How about you? Were you close?

[punishermax]

Out of you guys that went to the rumble, how did Taker's lightning look.

[The Punisher]

Yeah on tv it didn't look that real.

[Eklypze]

man i had all those old ass figures i had em all almost nailz warlod giant gonzales all kinds of em

[Eklypze]

this is gonna sound sad...

I'm a cheerleader at my college, and the whole time the Spirit Squad was out tonight (this was my first time seeing them) I was paying attention to everything they did. Dear Lord, they are the worst guy cheerleaders I've ever seen.

hahahahahaha your a male cheerleader that pretty funny

[PyroChamber]

Credit: PWInsider

-- The reason that CM Punk hasn’t been brought up to the WWE main roster is that they feel he still isn’t on their level. Stephanie McMahon refers to him as “The king of the indies”, but not good enough for WWE’s main roster yet.This coming from the say ****** that thought Christy Hemme was getting too excited about working with Triple H, and the same chick who's responsible for some of the worst WWE storylines.

And it looks like we won't be seeing RAW on Feb. 13th thanks to that stupid dog show. Damn you USA Network! :mad:

[Donnie Darko]

yeah, it's so funny that I get free trips to basketball and football games, get to sit down on the court for the UNC-Duke basketball game next week, and get to hang out with the best looking girls on campus every day.

Man, my life really sucks

[Mister J]

OK, I haven't finished watching the show yet, but just a quick thought. The Triple H-Chavo match is on. Given Triple H's interview, how he mocked the 'Eddie shake' during the match and the fact that Rey threw him on his keister last night at the Rumble, does anybody think they're leading to Rey giving up his title shot at WM to take on the Game?

I could see some "defending Eddie's honor is more important than the title shot" or something from Rey. They've been pushing this whole 'Rey tribute to Eddie thing' (too far in my opinion), you know there's gonna be an inter-promotional match and it seems like Angle and UT are going at it at WM.

Just a thought, back to the show.

...oooh, Masters just slapped Carlito silly. But he didn't say "Carlito", which is hilarious when he does.

[Super Kal]

*Yawn*

Booorriiinnggg.

Oh well, I hope SD kicks some ass. :(
eh, I've given up on wrestling... I found better things to do with my life.


I thought it was good 2-3 years ago... now it's just gotten extremely boring

[The Shredder]

I could see some "defending Eddie's honor is more important than the title shot" or something from Rey. They've been pushing this whole 'Rey tribute to Eddie thing' (too far in my opinion), you know there's gonna be an inter-promotional match and it seems like Angle and UT are going at it at WM.

I could see that.

Hopefully, that scenario wont be the case though. I would like to see Rey headline a Wrestlemania. Even if it ultimately happens just once.

[NDX]

I would prefer Rey to headline WrestleMania then work an interpromotional match (although it was reported in the past few weeks HHH will be winning the title back at WM22). Seeing Rey against Angle again could be great.

I would like to see Rey champ if only he stops using the 619 as a weapon. It just looks bad. I found it interesting when it was used as a fakeout of a high flying move for an opponent on the floor. Now it's just annoying as hell. Doesn't help that Michael Cole sounds 4 when he yells it.

[punishermax]

*Smackdown started with Teddy Long coming to the ring and saying that at The No Way Out PPV, The Undertaker will face Kurt Angle for the title. Teddy then calls out the winner of the Royal Rumble Rey Mysterio. Mysterio was talking about how Eddie Guerrero pulled a funny one on him for giving him the # 2 entry when Randy Orton comes out. Orton challenges him for the # 1 Contendership at No Way Out. Orton was rippig into Eddie, saying that Eddie didn't go to heaven and that he was in hell, which led to Rey and Orton brawling.

*The Mexicools vs, MNM for the WWE Tag Team titles: Pretty good match with the ending coming with Melina hitting Super Crazy when he was on the top rope with her shoe.

*Booker T was scheduled to defend the United States title against Benoit but said he was to hurt to fight and Teddy Long told him he would have to find a replacement and if the replacement lost he would lose the belt too.

*JBL came out and cut a promo of how he is a wrestling God and stuck around for the next match...

*Lashley vs. The *****: Quick squash by Lashley pinned one of the D***** after a dominator. After the match, JBL hits Lashley with the clothesline from hell.

*The Undertaker came out for a promo saying how he would win the world heavyweight championship at No Way Out. Kurt Angle comes out and says there was no chance he would beat him. Taker tells him he will RIP at No way Out and then. On TV, he is supposed to "disappear" but live, it was funny as he just ran from the ring and went under the apron.

*Sharmell and Booker come out and say there replacement for the match against Benoit is....

*Finlay vs. Chris Benoit: Nice stiff match between the two...the chops sounded brutal. Benoit won by DQ when Sharmell came in and hit him with one of Booker T's crutches. Finlay and Booker rough up Benoit after the match.

*They announce that next week, Gregory Helms will defend the Cruiserweight title against Nunzio.

*Booker T and Sharmell were celebrating in the back when the Boogeyman shows up behind them and says he's coming to get them and eats worms as they run away.

*There is a segment with Palmer Canon talking about how William Regal and Paul Burchill no longer want to be Tag Team partners but I couldn't hear it that well.

*Main Event: Kurt Angle and Rey Mysterio vs. Mark Henry and Randy Orton: Decent match, ended with Angle chasing Daivari through the crowd and Orton pinning Rey with a rollup. After the match Orton says he told Rey he could beat him and that his win at the Rumble was a fluke and Rey says in memory of Eddie he will put his shot at the title on the line at No Way Out against Orton.

Credit: PWI

[Go Web Go!]

Out of you guys that went to the rumble, how did Taker's lightning look.

I didn't even see lightning until I saw a reply of it on RAW tonight. Hell, it didn't even look like his pyros went off on time from where I was sitting. Maybe it was just me. :confused:

[Go Web Go!]

Man, things are getting WAY out of hand with references to Eddie on every show. Tonight on RAW with Triple H and now Orton on SD! You have to draw the line somewhere, WWE. Eddie Guerrero is not dead as part of a storyline. Sadly, he's really gone. They shouldn't mention him at all especially to get people like H and Orton heat. That's unecessary and if I were one of these people that were close to Eddie I'd look to put a stop to it ASAP.

[The Shredder]

Man, things are getting WAY out of hand with references to Eddie on every show. Tonight on RAW with Triple H and now Orton on SD! You have to draw the line somewhere, WWE.

Yeah, I've heard of wrestlers saying different things to get cheap heat, but this is getting really ridiculous.

[The Apatow Crew]

yeah have some respect for him and his family.

[punishermax]

For anyone who hasn't seen Paul Burchills finisher the C4 heres and example:
http://www.paulburchill.co.uk/images/avatars/andy.gif

[White_Howling]

what happened to Burchill in WWE .. they not letting him do his thing. and hes getting pushed further away from the spotlight

[White_Howling]

I didn't even see lightning until I saw a reply of it on RAW tonight. Hell, it didn't even look like his pyros went off on time from where I was sitting. Maybe it was just me. :confused:


maybe they just added the lighting on tv

[Sarge 2.0]

Ugh, a very lackluster Raw tonight. I think the only segments I enjoyed was the Shelton-Shelton's momma-Goldust segments. Especially since they're leading into a Shelton-Flair match :up:

Everything else about Raw just ho-hum.....Actually, I really enjoyed Raw's ME (Which I was sure I would despise, because I just knew Edge would get squashed and be forced to tap like some lowcarder on Heat), and the ending of the match actually made me interested as to where Raw would be next week. That, and RVD returned, albeit a little sluggish...Snitsky was not the ideal opponent for his Raw re-debut.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'm also pretty pumped that Taker is going to be talking again on SD this week. But the Randy Orton thing I could certainly live without. :down

[Hunter Rider]

WWE need to stop with all the Eddie stuff,they are whoring his name for face pops and heel heat and what is worse is guys like Orton and Rey don't need that **** to get the desired reaction

Honestly with Cena as champ on RAW and now Rey losing his title shot along with the part time kid getting a title shot im really not interested in this Mania:(

[GLfan]

I'm tired of McMahon.:mad:

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm tired of the WWE whoring Eddie's name for cheap face pops and heel heat for the heels. If anything, it's disrespectful and spits on his legacy in my opinion.

What shocks me is the wrestlers going along with it too. Eddie, sad but very true, he really is gone and they need to let the man rest.

Looks like Rey will be losing his title shot at WM. WWE can't have a cruiserweight headlining WM can they? :rolleyes:

[DOG LIPS]

Sadly, I just don't see them thinking Rey as a WM headliner will bring in the big buckoos. I think Rey will take on Angle or some such, and it will be shadowed by the main event of Cena and HHH or some such. :(

[Hunter Rider]

Likely WM22 card

WWE title
Cena vs HHH vs Edge

World Title
Angle vs Orton

IC title
Flair vs Shelton

US Title
Booker vs Benoit vs Finlay vs Lashley

Mystery Tag partner match for the RAW GM spot
HBK/???? vs Vince/Shane

Eddie Tribute Match
Rey vs Chavo

Taker vs Henry or Boogeyman

Chicago Street Fight
RVD/Show/Kane vs Carlito/3MW

Masters vs JBL
London/Spanky/Stacy vs MNM/Melina

[DOG LIPS]

Carlito/3MW? When will those two make their RAW debut?

[LastSunrise1981]

Sadly, I just don't see them thinking Rey as a WM headliner will bring in the big buckoos. I think Rey will take on Angle or some such, and it will be shadowed by the main event of Cena and HHH or some such. :(

As long as HHH buries Cena I'll be happy. I can't wait to hear the fans boo Cena and chant Triple H's name, because that's exactly what's going to happen.

I'm very excited. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Carlito/3MW? When will those two make their RAW debut?

That's a total guess on my part but i could see Carlito having a stable and 3MW are perfect as his heavies and the idea for it to be a street fight allows Van Dam to do his chair Shtick

[Hunter Rider]

As long as HHH buries Cena I'll be happy. I can't wait to hear the fans boo Cena and chant Triple H's name, because that's exactly what's going to happen.

I'm very excited. :up:

you won't be once Cena "Overcomes the odds" and wins endinng Mania doing his odd facial expressions and spinning his tacky little belt:(

[Eklypze]

ok so rey has lost his title shot??? when did this happen and who is 3mw??

[Hunter Rider]

ok so rey has lost his title shot??? when did this happen and who is 3mw??

Rey is defending his title shot against Orton at No Way Out
3MW is 3 Minute Warning they are a big smoan tag team
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/i/islandboys.html

[DOG LIPS]

That's a total guess on my part but i could see Carlito having a stable and 3MW are perfect as his heavies and the idea for it to be a street fight allows Van Dam to do his chair Shtick
I could see it, Carlito would do well with some big guys as part of a 'gang'. His ego needs some backup to make his character a bit more credible. He always says this and that, then loses like a beeyotch. :(

[Hunter Rider]

I could see it, Carlito would do well with some big guys as part of a 'gang'. His ego needs some backup to make his character a bit more credible. He always says this and that, then loses like a beeyotch. :(

Yeah they keep jobbing him out even though his offense is really good:confused:

[DOG LIPS]

The first thing they need to do is get Carlito away from Masters. Their love/hate thing is getting old, and it seems like they are going to start a lame ass feud with them soon. :(

[Hunter Rider]

The first thing they need to do is get Carlito away from Masters. Their love/hate thing is getting old, and it seems like they are going to start a lame ass feud with them soon. :(

Ugh,the only good to come of that would be more chances for Masters to say "Carrrrr-leee-toe":(

[LastSunrise1981]

you won't be once Cena "Overcomes the odds" and wins endinng Mania doing his odd facial expressions and spinning his tacky little belt:(

Rumor has it that Triple H doesn't like Cena(backstage), maybe he'll use his politics and bury Cena. ;-)

I don't know why Vince insists on shoving Cena down our throats, whereas the fans don't really buy into him anymore. Either turn Cena heel or get the championship off of him.

[Hunter Rider]

Rumor has it that Triple H doesn't like Cena(backstage), maybe he'll use his politics and bury Cena. ;-)

I don't know why Vince insists on shoving Cena down our throats, whereas the fans don't really buy into him anymore. Either turn Cena heel or get the championship off of him.

Yeah but Mania has only ended twice with Heels winning and they were big swerve angles

Apparently Cena shifts merch to kids and women so they keep him on top:(

[Duende Verde]

Vince needs Cena to be champion at least until his movie debuts, after that it all depends on how it performs at the box office.

[Hunter Rider]

According to a report in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there is once again health concerns within WWE regarding Kurt Angle. During the recent tour of Mexico, Angle was protected in the ring as the world champion has once again been experiencing numbness in his hand due to his neck problems. The word going around was that Angle was feeling better when he returned from the tour. An MRI could shed more light on his current condition, but there is no word whether or not Angle would be seeing a doctor this week. Angle always hides his feelings and won't let anyone know what pain he is feeling, especially now that he is champion.

In better Angle news, Kurt and his wife Karen are back together.

[Eklypze]

ok i remember 3mw are they back now

[Hunter Rider]

Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer

Matches being advertised for the 3/18 Saturday Night's Main Event tapings include Kurt Angle v. The Undertaker and John Cena v. Edge with special referee Triple H. Tickets for the event go on sale Saturday 2/11 at 10am at the Cobo box office and all ticketmaster outlets and online at ticketmaster.com.

Rumored matches for Wrestlemania include Henry v. Undertaker, Triple H v. John Cena, Orton v. Angle, and HBK vs. Vince McMahon (or Shane McMahon).

[Hunter Rider]

ok i remember 3mw are they back now
Yeah theyv'e worked a couple of dark matches

[Sarge 2.0]

Likely WM22 card

WWE title
Cena vs HHH vs Edge

World Title
Angle vs Orton

IC title
Flair vs Shelton

US Title
Booker vs Benoit vs Finlay vs Lashley

Mystery Tag partner match for the RAW GM spot
HBK/???? vs Vince/Shane

Eddie Tribute Match
Rey vs Chavo

Taker vs Henry or Boogeyman

Chicago Street Fight
RVD/Show/Kane vs Carlito/3MW

Masters vs JBL
London/Spanky/Stacy vs MNM/MelinaIs this your card prediction, or are there sources to this?

[Hunter Rider]

Is this your card prediction, or are there sources to this?

my pessimistic prediction:(

[Sarge 2.0]

my pessimistic prediction:(Don't get all mopey until No Way Out. If Rey loses his title shot there, then I'll probably agree with most of that. I would also not count Edge out of the card, and possibly have Triple H not ME at all.

[Hunter Rider]

Don't get all mopey until No Way Out. If Rey loses his title shot there, then I'll probably agree with most of that. I would also not count Edge out of the card, and possibly have Triple H not ME at all.

I honestly can't see them going all the way with Cena and Edge at Mania since they will face each other at SNME just prior to Mania
The truth is Cena isn't good enough to be on the show in the ME position,if you saw the match against Edge it was obvious Edge was carrying him as best he could with smart offense but when it came Cena's turn to comeback he had nothing but the same generic formula

[Mister J]

The truth is Cena isn't good enough to be on the show in the ME position,if you saw the match against Edge it was obvious Edge was carrying him as best he could with smart offense but when it came Cena's turn to comeback he had nothing but the same generic formula

Maybe, but you know Vince doesn't care about actual work rate in determining who's at the top of the card; if he did, Shelton, Benoit and RVD would get way better storylines. He cares about $$$$$, which apparently Cena does well in. That's why they're hesitant to turn to him heel or have him drop the strap for too long.

[Sarge 2.0]

I honestly can't see them going all the way with Cena and Edge at Mania since they will face each other at SNME just prior to Mania
The truth is Cena isn't good enough to be on the show in the ME position,if you saw the match against Edge it was obvious Edge was carrying him as best he could with smart offense but when it came Cena's turn to comeback he had nothing but the same generic formulaYes, I realise Edge is the one carrying these matches, and he was even able to salvage last nights ME with his great momentum swings and smart spots. It's not until Cena mounts his atrocious and predictable offense (which the fans seem to go nuts for...) that the match goes down hill. I would hope that if Edge were to go anywhere at Mania, it would be in another Money in the Bank match with RVD, Matt Hardy, etc.

[Hunter Rider]

Yes, I realise Edge is the one carrying these matches, and he was even able to salvage last nights ME with his great momentum swings and smart spots. It's not until Cena mounts his atrocious and predictable offense (which the fans seem to go nuts for...) that the match goes down hill. I would hope that if Edge were to go anywhere at Mania, it would be in another Money in the Bank match with RVD, Matt Hardy, etc.

Edge may face Taker as the two undefeated guys at Mania,but if Cena closes out the show as champ it will be the worst Mania since Hogans WM9 garbage

[Eric Draven]

Sadly, I just don't see them thinking Rey as a WM headliner will bring in the big buckoos. I think Rey will take on Angle or some such, and it will be shadowed by the main event of Cena and HHH or some such. :(

I actually think Rey would be great in the title spot at WM. I mean he is probably the most recognizable star on SD at the moment. Much more than Orton IMO. Plus, it would be such a great storyline to have Rey, the little guy, win the heavyweight championship title at the biggest event of the year for the WWE.

[The FallenAngel]

Everytime Cena starts up his "Five Moves of Doom" I want to vomit. I sincerely hope the rumor that HHH doesn't like him backstage is true, so that Cena gets buried to hell.

[Donnie Darko]

My only problems with Rey are the whole "doing it for Eddie" thing and his formulaic matches. He hits some cool spots, but it's the same stuff every match. I mean, if I was to just see one Rey match, I'd be really impressed, but it's always the same stuff. Think back to when Rey first came to ECW and WCW... his matches were great. He hit new, crazy stuff every match. Now it's like "oh wow, 619... sweet!"

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, true, but he has been doing some really amazing stuff as of late. All of his tag matches with Batista were really good when he was in the ring.

[Go Web Go!]

As long as HHH buries Cena I'll be happy. I can't wait to hear the fans boo Cena and chant Triple H's name, because that's exactly what's going to happen.

I'm very excited. :up:

That was the case at the Rumble this past Sunday. Cena got booed pretty loudly while Triple H was surprisingly (atleast to me) cheered as he entered the Rumble and throughout.


And one quick thing before I go...for the love of God NO MARK HENRY VS. UNDERTAKER at WRESTLEMANIA! Ugh. That would take the crown as his worst WM match from Giant Gonzalez.

[Mister J]

And one quick thing before I go...for the love of God NO MARK HENRY VS. UNDERTAKER at WRESTLEMANIA! Ugh.

GWG, tell me you just made that up and that it's not from a source.

...please.

[DOG LIPS]

I'm sure they brought back Henry just to be a big guy to feud with Batista, then shortly after they got his fatass Batista got hurt. Now they really have no use for him, he's not really a good counterpart to Angle OR anyone else for that matter.

[Eklypze]

For anyone who hasn't seen Paul Burchills finisher the C4 heres and example:
http://www.paulburchill.co.uk/images/avatars/andy.gif
ive talked about the c4 plenty of times on here its one of the best wrestling moves ive seen in a while that and the canadian destroyer but WWE is really under using burchill hes an amazing wrestler heres a link if yall wanna check out some of his over seas stuffFWA Online Plus (http://www.fwaonlineplus.com/free.html?PHPSESSID=5f3eb9c4d16c9a8081463a0587bb99 e3#burchill)

[Go Web Go!]

GWG, tell me you just made that up and that it's not from a source.

...please.

Unfortunately, I've read it from a couple of different sources over the last few weeks. :down

[Mister J]

Unfortunately, I've read it from a couple of different sources over the last few weeks. :down
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Damn you, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque! Damn you good.

[citizenpain]

the C4 is an awesome move. awesome and sick... and awesome.

[The FallenAngel]

I'll agree that the C4 is awesome, but not a single move compares to the awesome GORE!!! GORE!!! GORE!!!

[The Batman]

That was the case at the Rumble this past Sunday. Cena got booed pretty loudly while Triple H was surprisingly (atleast to me) cheered as he entered the Rumble and throughout.


And one quick thing before I go...for the love of God NO MARK HENRY VS. UNDERTAKER at WRESTLEMANIA! Ugh. That would take the crown as his worst WM match from Giant Gonzalez.


y'know, i just saw that match today on yutube.

I liked the end when taker came back to FCK Giant up...

[Hunter Rider]

My only problems with Rey are the whole "doing it for Eddie" thing and his formulaic matches. He hits some cool spots, but it's the same stuff every match. I mean, if I was to just see one Rey match, I'd be really impressed, but it's always the same stuff. Think back to when Rey first came to ECW and WCW... his matches were great. He hit new, crazy stuff every match. Now it's like "oh wow, 619... sweet!"

You must eb watching different Rey matches to me,he's the best worker on the roster right now,his performances are all well varied depending on who he faces
It's true he doesn't do as many highspots as he used to when he was smaller and hadn't had the knee surgeries but his pacing and storytelling in the ring is way better then ever plus highspots and flippy flop moves don't make for good main event matches

[Hunter Rider]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Damn you, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque! Damn you good.

After his Rumble performance i would expect Taker to put a block on a match with Henry

[The Shredder]

After his Rumble performance i would expect Taker to put a block on a match with Henry

Yes. A match like that would be just another repeat of Undertaker vs. King Kong Bundy from WM 11.

[Go Web Go!]

A few pictures from the other night. I know, my seats were a little, hm, distant?

Final Four in the Rumble
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/dw85/1.jpg

Mysterio after winning the RR
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/dw85/3.jpg

The Undertaker (who hopefully will NOT be facing Mark Henry at WM)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/dw85/2.jpg

[The Undertaker]

Anyway, the Rumble match itself was great as was seeing The Undertaker in person...finally. The rest of the show was, well, MEH. I was expecting more out of both championship matches but they were still entertaining. I had a good time whether it was a good or bad ppv.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing seeing him live especially when he acknowledges you personally. :eek: It made my year.

[The Ghoul]

Seeing Taker live was my dream sence I was young little tike. I was very excited the moment the gong hit. BTW I don't know if this was mentioned back & I am way lazy to go back, but to answer someone's question Taker had no lightning. That was a graphic effect.

[LastSunrise1981]

I'll agree that the C4 is awesome, but not a single move compares to the awesome GORE!!! GORE!!! GORE!!!

The Canadian Destroyer comes to mind. :up:

[NDX]

I actually don't like the C4. Can look sloppy at times. I think the move works better as a tag team move from the top rope, but that's just me.

I remember seeing Taker back in 1996 and 1998, once taking on Bret Hart for the heavyweight title and once taking on Shirt and Tie Mankind. Both were the main events at houseshows at MSG and worth every penny. Specially since one show was free.

But I don't think for me Taker would have the same effect he had for me back then. Plus I got his autograph on some crap back then. Funtime USA in Brooklyn was good for that (that was the place where Crash once defended his Hardcore title in a indoor carnival type atmosphere where he pinned his opponent in the ballpit).

[Colossal Spoons]

Seeing Taker live was my dream sence I was young little tike. I was very excited the moment the gong hit.

When I saw Hogan at Summerslam; that was the single most nostalgic moment of my life. I'm a grown ass man and my 7 friends and I turned into some blubberin' babies during his entrance.

[DOG LIPS]

Great pics, GWG. :):up:

[Donnie Darko]

I saw the Undertaker once, it was at the Inferno match with Kane... it was like the worst thing ever.

[NDX]

Credit: 1Wrestling.com

After suffering what is described as a minor heart attack on Saturday night, Mark Madden seems to be in great spirits. Doctors placed a stint in one of Madden's arteries yesterday and have approved a return to work as soon as Thursday of this week.

On Saturday night, Madden was coaching a hockey game. Shortly after he felt discomfort in his chest, he then drove himself to the hospital to get checked out. Madden said enzyme tests showed he had a minor heart attack that was on the "low end" of the scale.

Madden had initially planned to broadcast his afternoon sports show from Detroit leading up to the Super Bowl, but will now be working from the studio in Pittsburgh beginning as early as Thursday.

[punishermax]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/jerkysfan/Power%20Slam/PS_Jan06_Cover.jpg
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Jericho interview with Power Slam, I think its safe to say that Jericho won't be back for a while.

[White_Howling]

holy crap you get to keep the belts?

[Sarge 2.0]

I saw the Undertaker once, it was at the Inferno match with Kane... it was like the worst thing ever....I think that was one of Takers best performances. :confused:

[Lobo]

should I even watch SD this Friday?

[kane9321]

How old are you? :confused:

28...and why did u ask my age:up:

[kane9321]

Its not believeable.Rey Rey,"5'4 all 100 and some odd pounds. winning the royal rumble?..now gets a chance to wrestle for the belt..thats crazy

[Go Web Go!]

should I even watch SD this Friday?

Sounds like a decent show from what I read. Maybe you should just record it and do your own thing to stay on the safe side.

[DOG LIPS]

See the quote in that mag where Jericho talks about Cena? :D

[LastSunrise1981]

Hey guys,

I was surfing MySpace and I know Eddie has been gone for a while, but I thought I'd share this picture with everyone. I find it very moving and funny in a good way.
:)

http://c.myspace.com/Groups/00008/02/97/8527920_l.jpg

[PyroChamber]

holy crap you get to keep the belts?I think once you win one, you get to buy it if you want.

[Hunter Rider]

Great article:up: I completely agree with what Y2J said,Cena needs a big refresh and the guys they are bringing into the ME are not ready

[Donnie Darko]

That was a great interview. Jericho is the man, and I love how he has just enough ego to tell the truth, but not so much to think he is a bigger deal to the business than he actually is. That part about Goldberg was hilarious. Also, they really need to do a Best of Jericho dvd.

[Sarge 2.0]

I don't think you can even call Y2J's assesment of himself and others ego. He's just telling it like it is. :up:

He needs his own shoot interview dvd series.

[Sarge 2.0]

Its not believeable.Rey Rey,"5'4 all 100 and some odd pounds. winning the royal rumble?..now gets a chance to wrestle for the belt..thats crazyThat's the mentality that's killing the ME and title scenes in the WWE. Relying on size and image for title holders is a bad philosophy, regardless of how you want to back it up.

[NDX]

Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

A report today in the Palm Beach Post claims a tanning booth attendant in the Tanzabar tanning salon in Boca Raton lists Vince McMahon as having groped her and sexually harrassed her.

The story claims the police report on the alleged incident will be made public later this week.

McMahon lives in Boca Raton at the Excelsior, but couldn't be reached for comments. His wife, Linda, called the claim "totally bizarre," and daughter Stephanie McMahon confirmed Vince goes to that tanning bed, but was not aware of anything going on.

The complete story is available online at palmbeachpost.com.

This doesn't sound believable, plus I couldn't find the article on that site.

[Lone Wolf]

Wow I just read the SD spoilers over at imdb.....

[Eric Draven]

That comment that Orton makes at the beginning of the show is definitely pretty surprising.....

[The Ghoul]

Vince McMahon Accused Of Sexual Harassment
Date Added: February 01, 2006
Story By: Matthew Boone
Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

A report today in the Palm Beach Post claims a tanning booth attendant in the Tanzabar tanning salon in Boca Raton lists Vince McMahon as having groped her and sexually harrassed her.

The story claims the police report on the alleged incident will be made public later this week.

McMahon lives in Boca Raton at the Excelsior, but couldn't be reached for comments. His wife, Linda, called the claim "totally bizarre," and daughter Stephanie McMahon confirmed Vince goes to that tanning bed, but was not aware of anything going on.

The complete story is available online at palmbeachpost.com.

I live like a half hour away from there. That's pretty funny.

[Lone Wolf]

That comment that Orton makes at the beginning of the show is definitely pretty surprising.....

It's pretty pitiful.

[White_Howling]

what was ortons comment? linky?

[Mister J]

It's pretty pitiful.

The really need to knock that crap off. Unfortunately, it'll only get worse. You know how WWE loves cheap heat, however they can get it.

[Hunter Rider]

what was ortons comment? linky?

He said to Rey "eddie isnt watching from Heaven because he is in hell"

[TheVileOne]

What an awesome interview with Jericho. I've never even heard of that magazine. And what an awesome interviewer that was. He didn't softball Jericho at all and asked him a lot of great, informed questions, very pointed ones.

I need to check out this magazine.

I agree with most of what Jericho said. Its fortunate he was as terribly underutilized as he was at many points in his WWE career. It just annoys me that Jericho is currently in retirement while all these old farts are still hanging around being put over better, younger workers like Shelton Benjamin. Unfortunate to say the least.

I really would've loved to see Jericho choke the crap out of Goldberg. It proves to me that Goldberg is a wussy and not this tough bastard persona he's created over the years. Jericho was trained by Stu Hart in the dungeon. He knows what toughness is.

[The Punisher]

Yeah i liked the Jericho interview.

[Hunter Rider]

What an awesome interview with Jericho. I've never even heard of that magazine. And what an awesome interviewer that was. He didn't softball Jericho at all and asked him a lot of great, informed questions, very pointed ones.

I need to check out this magazine.

I agree with most of what Jericho said. Its fortunate he was as terribly underutilized as he was at many points in his WWE career. It just annoys me that Jericho is currently in retirement while all these old farts are still hanging around being put over better, younger workers like Shelton Benjamin. Unfortunate to say the least.

I really would've loved to see Jericho choke the crap out of Goldberg. It proves to me that Goldberg is a wussy and not this tough bastard persona he's created over the years. Jericho was trained by Stu Hart in the dungeon. He knows what toughness is.

The mags from the UK
Until about a month ago shelton couldn't complete a sequence without ****ing up,his confidence has returned and he looked good against HBK but he is rebuilding and finally gaining the aspect he always lacked which was personality

[The Punisher]

I agree.

[Sabretooth]

400 pages of pure *****ing.;)

[Sarge 2.0]

400 pages of pure *****ing.;)Bwahaha. The sad part is, it's true.

Something to remind everyone:


It's just professional wrestling. For the most part, if you want your fix of mindless entertainment, it's OK to tune into Raw and get your fun there. If you want something with a bit more sport, stick to the indies...but *****ing and endlessly analysing it drains the fun out of the concept completely.

[The Punisher]

400 pages of pure *****ing.;)

Haha.

[TheVileOne]

400 pages of pure *****ing.;)
What's this referring to?

[Sarge 2.0]

What's this referring to?The last couple hundred of the pages. No one specifically. This thread has degenerated into a *****fest.

[The Punisher]

What he said.

[The Punisher]

And OT thats a nice avvy Sarge. Gotta love a nice set. :up:

[White_Howling]

whos in your avatar sarge?

[The Punisher]

Scarlett Johannson

[The Ghoul]

Bwahaha. The sad part is, it's true.

Something to remind everyone:


It's just professional wrestling. For the most part, if you want your fix of mindless entertainment, it's OK to tune into Raw and get your fun there. If you want something with a bit more sport, stick to the indies...but *****ing and endlessly analysing it drains the fun out of the concept completely.

I totally agree. I laugh at a lot of what is said here. We all do our share of *****ing, but if you see, I have a very low post count considering how long I've been here. I only respond to what I feel is worth my time to write & very few other threads catch my eye enough to talk about. Truth is though I geek out on pro wrestling. I love star wars, comic books & cult movies, but wrestling to me is the equivalent of a trekkie to me. I also make fun of it a lot. I make fun of myself a lot. I accept that pro wrestling is the bastard child of the entertainment industry. I still act like a kid when I see good wrestling. I truly believe I am destend to be one down the line, because night & day its all I think about. I am always thinking of different characters & stories & moves. I used to think I wanted to be in a metal band, until I realised the first song I learned on guitar was the DX theme. None of my other friends are wrestling fans, but as soon as my friend got a trampiline I started initiating matches right away. we did everything awesomely. Before each match we would Rock/Paper/scissors to determine winners. We would plan the first & last moves so wee keep it controled enough to have a decent match but open enough to try other things. Like my friend Jerry swantoned me off his roof. (not as impressive considering it was a double-wide trailer on a trampoline, but again I am mature for my age.)

[Lone Wolf]

The really need to knock that crap off. Unfortunately, it'll only get worse. You know how WWE loves cheap heat, however they can get it.

As a long time WWE fan, yeah I know perfectly. It's just the comment Orton makes on Eddie, just pisses me off. First he disrespects him by practically destroying the low rider and now this.

He said to Rey "eddie isnt watching from Heaven because he is in hell"

Close to that, he said "Eddie is burning in hell." Or something to that effect, as said by the person who posted it on imdb. Also Triple HHH mocked Eddie, on Monday's RAW when he faced Chavo. I think it's just plain pathetic.

[NDX]

Source: PWInsider

We have a follow up story on the allegations made against Vince McMahon by a tanning salon attendant.

This past Sunday, the day of the supposed incident, the Royal Rumble took place in Miami, FL. We knew that Vince was in town until at least 11 p.m. that night, as he was seen talking with Joey Styles after the show as soon as Styles came through the curtain.

Boca Raton is roughly 47 miles from Miami, which would mean that Vince would have had to practically run out of the building and gone directly to the salon in order to tan, which was hard to believe on its own. Then, in talking to a high placed WWE source, I found out that Vince was not in Boca Raton at all that day (or night).

On top of that, when we called "Tanzabar", where the attendant alleged the incident happened, they told us that they were closed on Sunday, making the story even more suspect.


Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

Reports earlier today indicated that Vince McMahon was being accused of groping an attendant at a tanning salon in Boca Raton, FL. According to Vince McMahon's attorney Jerry McDevitt, McMahon was not at the Tanzabar Salon at all on Sunday night.

Palm Beach Post reported this morning that the incident took place late on Sunday night. McMahon was in Miami that weekend for the Royal Rumble and called a meeting after the show before the company headed to Orlando for the RAW and SmackDown TV Tapings.

On Sunday, McMahon was not even in the Palm Beach area, according to McDevitt, nor did he go to that tanning salon. McMahon however does own a multi-million dollar condo in the Boca Raton at The Excelsior, which is where he resides when he is not in Connecticut.

[LastSunrise1981]

He said to Rey "eddie isnt watching from Heaven because he is in hell"

What the hell? Now that's just taking things too far. I wonder how Vicki feels about all this?

[TheVileOne]

What the hell? Now that's just taking things too far. I wonder how Vicki feels about all this?
Does it matter? The apologists will just say crap like, "CHAVO'S OK WITH IT!" So stop whining.

[LastSunrise1981]

Does it matter? The apologists will just say crap like, "CHAVO'S OK WITH IT!" So stop whining.

Well that may be true, but I'm definitely not okay with it. I really doubt Chavo, Vicki, Malenko, and Benoit are really caring for it. Personally it's only a matter of time before one of them speaks out.

I'm all for keeping Eddie's memory alive and all; even you have to agree though that it's time for them to let him rest in peace. They're acting as if he's physically here and he's not, so for Orton to actually say something like that and Triple H to mock him, just upsets me and makes me more disgusted with Vince and the WWE even more.

Oh well, I know I won't be watching Smackdown then.

[Hunter Rider]

While i personally don't care for this use of Eddie you all act like it is the first time it has been done,
Eddie's uncle and father did the same thing in Mexico many years ago to get heat and Fritz Von Erich used his sons death to put heat on the top heel in his promotion by having the heel claim it was his beating of Fritz son David that led to him commiting suicide

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

This year's WrestleMania will feature five main matches. These matches, according to insiders, will be: John Cena vs. Triple H, Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton, The Undertaker vs. Mark Henry, Shawn Michaels vs. Vince McMahon, and Edge vs. Mick Foley.

The storyline between Mick Foley and Edge may be triggered by Foley mocking Edge for being a "transitional champion."

With Mysterio winning the Royal Rumble this line up could be changed, otherwise look for him to lose his title shot between now and Mania.

[LastSunrise1981]

While i personally don't care for this use of Eddie you all act like it is the first time it has been done,
Eddie's uncle and father did the same thing in Mexico many years ago to get heat and Fritz Von Erich used his sons death to put heat on the top heel in his promotion by having the heel claim it was his beating of Fritz son David that led to him commiting suicide

That's all fine and well, it doesn't make it right at all. I don't care about who did this or how it's been done before. Wrong is wrong, there's no need to play around with it.

Stop dancing around the subject and call it for what it is. It's cheap heel heat and there ways to do it, instead of saying that Eddie isn't in heaven aid burning in hell.

[Hunter Rider]

That's all fine and well, it doesn't make it right at all. I don't care about who did this or how it's been done before. Wrong is wrong, there's no need to play around with it.

Stop dancing around the subject and call it for what it is. It's cheap heel heat and there ways to do it, instead of saying that Eddie isn't in heaven aid burning in hell.

Im not dancing around anything,and i never said it wasn't cheap heel heat
what i said was that some of you are using it as more "Evil Vince"
propoganada when it's been a staple of heel heat long before Eddies death

BTW just to correct myself, David Von Erich caught an infection in Japan during a tour and died as a result,the top heel in the company then claimed it was his beating up of David in their match out there that led to his death

[DOG LIPS]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

This year's WrestleMania will feature five main matches. These matches, according to insiders, will be: John Cena vs. Triple H, Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton, The Undertaker vs. Mark Henry, Shawn Michaels vs. Vince McMahon, and Edge vs. Mick Foley.

The storyline between Mick Foley and Edge may be triggered by Foley mocking Edge for being a "transitional champion."

With Mysterio winning the Royal Rumble this line up could be changed, otherwise look for him to lose his title shot between now and Mania.
That sucks.... all of it.....




Unless HHH beats Cena, then it's ALL gold. :D:up:

[Bad Superman]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

This year's WrestleMania will feature five main matches. These matches, according to insiders, will be: John Cena vs. Triple H, Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton, The Undertaker vs. Mark Henry, Shawn Michaels vs. Vince McMahon, and Edge vs. Mick Foley.

The storyline between Mick Foley and Edge may be triggered by Foley mocking Edge for being a "transitional champion."

With Mysterio winning the Royal Rumble this line up could be changed, otherwise look for him to lose his title shot between now and Mania.

I'm screwed. I invited a group of friends to watch Wrestlemania this year at my new house and from the looks of it, the line up will suck huge without one exception: Angle VS. Orton. :down

[The Techno Bat]

If anybody has Sirius Radio tune into Howard 100 right now, because Taz and Michael Cole are on the wrap up show, and have announced that they will be getting there own radio show after Bubba the Love Sponge 8-11PM tonight, Friday, & Monday (I think) on Howard 101. The Michael Cole & Tazz Show. I am not sure how permanent this will be, I will post more info when I get it

[Donnie Darko]

Foley vs. Edge could be a really good match if Foley wants to take some bumps. I don't know what kind of physical shape he is in now (I mean, obviously he's nasty fat, but I mean as far as his body being able to withstand some bumps). Edge will most likely take a lot. I see this match being of the hardcore variety.

Angle vs. Orton will probably be a damn good match.

I don't like them having Vince wrestle. I just think it's stupid. It was cool when he was going after Austin, but after that, it doesn't do anything for me. Why not have him have some kind of corporate stooge that can wrestle Michaels for him? Maybe Mama Benjamin could talk Shelton into getting into the boss's good graces by taking on Michaels.

Undertaker vs. Mark Henry will suck hard.

Cena vs. HHH could be ok, but I don't know. I'm really not a fan of HHH's ring work, and haven't been for a long time. More than anything, I just like to see him lose.

[Eklypze]

i like your idea about mama benamin getting shelton to suck up to vince thats a really good idea

[The FallenAngel]

Found this on You Tube and figured I should share it with you guys. This is KENTA vs. Low Ki from ROH's Final Battle 2005. This is one of the best matches I have ever seen. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/w/KENTA-vs-Low-Ki?v=Fuhyk6FOHMc&search=KENTA

[Sabretooth]

Well that may be true, but I'm definitely not okay with it. I really doubt Chavo, Vicki, Malenko, and Benoit are really caring for it. Personally it's only a matter of time before one of them speaks out.

I'm all for keeping Eddie's memory alive and all; even you have to agree though that it's time for them to let him rest in peace. They're acting as if he's physically here and he's not, so for Orton to actually say something like that and Triple H to mock him, just upsets me and makes me more disgusted with Vince and the WWE even more.

Oh well, I know I won't be watching Smackdown then.
It's not Orton coming up with this though. He's just doing his job,tasteless,yes,but it comes with the paycheck,sad but true.:o

[Eric Draven]

Source: PWTorch Newsletter

This year's WrestleMania will feature five main matches. These matches, according to insiders, will be: John Cena vs. Triple H, Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton, The Undertaker vs. Mark Henry, Shawn Michaels vs. Vince McMahon, and Edge vs. Mick Foley.

The storyline between Mick Foley and Edge may be triggered by Foley mocking Edge for being a "transitional champion."

With Mysterio winning the Royal Rumble this line up could be changed, otherwise look for him to lose his title shot between now and Mania.

I hope they change the card. I just want to see Rey win the title at Wrestlemania.....:(

I dunno, all of the listed matches just don't seem interesting to me.....

[LastSunrise1981]

It's not Orton coming up with this though. He's just doing his job,tasteless,yes,but it comes with the paycheck,sad but true.:o

Well, then it shows what kind of person he is then too. Because if it was me, there's no way I'd do it, absolutely no way would I say that about Eddie. I know it's supposed to be an "act", and I know he didn't come up with it, however, there has to be a line and what they're doing with Eddie's legacy is just disrespecting him.

People say I shouldn't be surprised and in a way I'm not, but in a way I am, because these were the same guys crying their hearts out and giving heartfelt stories about Eddie, only to turn around and Orton to say he's in Hell and for Triple H to mock his shimmy?

Come on, there's just no way to spin that at all. It's sad, tasteless, and shows that Vince and the writers are truly amoral at heart.

[Hunter Rider]

Well, then it shows what kind of person he is then too. Because if it was me, there's no way I'd do it, absolutely no way would I say that about Eddie. I know it's supposed to be an "act", and I know he didn't come up with it, however, there has to be a line and what they're doing with Eddie's legacy is just disrespecting him.

People say I shouldn't be surprised and in a way I'm not, but in a way I am, because these were the same guys crying their hearts out and giving heartfelt stories about Eddie, only to turn around and Orton to say he's in Hell and for Triple H to mock his shimmy?

Come on, there's just no way to spin that at all. It's sad, tasteless, and shows that Vince and the writers are truly amoral at heart.

Again Rey and Benoit aren't going against this either and they were his friends,plus i'll be honest you and me and anyone on here has no idea what is like to be part of the carny world of wrestling,things that seem unimaginable to you and me are part of who and what they are

[Hunter Rider]

I hope they change the card. I just want to see Rey win the title at Wrestlemania.....:(

I dunno, all of the listed matches just don't seem interesting to me.....
Agreed

Orton vs Angle-should be a great match but where's the magic moment ?

HHH vs Cena-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.no.....one....cares

Taker vs Henry-this has a chnace to be Takers worst mania match ever and he's had some stinkers

Shawn vs Vince-what a shame this egofest may be HBK's last big Mania match:(

Edge vs Foley-Desperate much ?

[Eric Draven]

If they go with that WM card, it might actually be one of the worst WM cards ever. I mean there's absolutely nothing special with any of those matches. I mean last year, we had Batista winning the title from Triple H and Shawn Michaels fighting Kurt Angle for the first time. The year before that, it was all about Benoit finally winning the title match.

Those matches? I mean I could see those in any other WWE PPV. Wrestlemania is the WWE's biggest PPV of the year. And they stock it with those matches? Give me a break......


And yeah, this may seem like a "*****fest" but still, look at that card!

[Sarge 2.0]

Agreed

Orton vs Angle-should be a great match but where's the magic moment ?

HHH vs Cena-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.no.....one....cares

Taker vs Henry-this has a chnace to be Takers worst mania match ever and he's had some stinkers

Shawn vs Vince-what a shame this egofest may be HBK's last big Mania match:(

Edge vs Foley-Desperate much ?If Henry is the guy he puts over...I'll kill myself. I swear I will. :(

[Hunter Rider]

If Henry is the guy he puts over...I'll kill myself. I swear I will. :(

No way will Henry go over Taker,ya know it was said that he wanted a good wrestling match this year as it may be his last so im shocked he will let this happen....I for once hope he uses his stroke to get things changed up

[Sabretooth]

No way will Henry go over Taker,ya know it was said that he wanted a good wrestling match this year as it may be his last so im shocked he will let this happen....I for once hope he uses his stroke to get things changed up
I'm not convinced at all this is his last Wrestlemania. How many times have we heard that he'd retire after WM?

I also doubt Henry will come out on top. Despite his sudden push in the heavyweight division,his contract is expired in August. Be kinda silly for him to beat The Undertaker and then leave a few months later.

[TheVileOne]

Someone please explain to me how Undertaker vs. Mark Henry is a main match? Just another easy win and ham n egger opponent for the Taker while he continues to mire and not elevate ANYBODY.

I'm sorry but that Wrestlemania card sucks.

[Sarge 2.0]

Someone please explain to me how Undertaker vs. Mark Henry is a main match? Just another easy win and ham n egger opponent for the Taker while he continues to mire and not elevate ANYBODY.

I'm sorry but that Wrestlemania card sucks.You act like Taker is head booker or something. Can't you put aside whatever anti-Taker bias you have for a moment and look at this objectively? You act like the Undertaker killed your father and raped your mother. Taker even made a request that Angle be his WM opponent.

[LastSunrise1981]

Someone please explain to me how Undertaker vs. Mark Henry is a main match? Just another easy win and ham n egger opponent for the Taker while he continues to mire and not elevate ANYBODY.

I'm sorry but that Wrestlemania card sucks.

You do realize he hasn't been anywhere near the title for years, right? He deserves one last run and a chance to go out on top. Besides, why should he elevate Mark Henry of all people? :)

Maybe that's why he wanted to wrestle Angle? So he could elevate him possibly? Not that Angle needs to be elevated at all really, but just think what a win at WM could do for Angle against the Undertaker.

Believe it or not, Taker has been quite unselfish as of late and hasn't hogged any screen time from anyone.

[Hunter Rider]

You do realize he hasn't been anywhere near the title for years, right? He deserves one last run and a chance to go out on top. Besides, why should he elevate Mark Henry of all people? :)

Maybe that's why he wanted to wrestle Angle? So he could elevate him possibly? Not that Angle needs to be elevated at all really, but just think what a win at WM could do for Angle against the Undertaker.

Believe it or not, Taker has been quite unselfish as of late and hasn't hogged any screen time from anyone.

I dont think Vile was suggesting he should elevate Henry but Taker winning any world title would kill the show right now
As for him being unselfish with air time,i think that suits him as he isnt really wanting to be there but he hasn't helped get anyone over since Lesnar as he completely buried Orton

[LastSunrise1981]

I dont think Vile was suggesting he should elevate Henry but Taker winning any world title would kill the show right now
As for him being unselfish with air time,i think that suits him as he isnt really wanting to be there but he hasn't helped get anyone over since Lesnar as he completely buried Orton

I agree that Orton should've went over in the HOTC match. Orton will more than likely win the title at WM anyways, so his career isn't completely buried when you think about it. :)

[Hunter Rider]

I agree that Orton should've went over in the HOTC match. Orton will more than likely win the title at WM anyways, so his career isn't completely buried when you think about it. :)

Yeah it;s just a shame he isnt going into it with some big momentum from that feud,honestly his victory will be tainted again as that should be Rey's big night IMO

[Lone Wolf]

They better not screw Rey by having Orton win the title contendership.

[punishermax]

They better not screw Rey by having Orton win the title contendership.

Well, its whats going to happen.

[Mister J]

Well, its whats going to happen.

Still, it's pretty low. I don't ever recall the RR winner not main-eventing WM. At least since they started the whole 'title shot' thing.

[Sarge 2.0]

You act like the Undertaker killed your father and raped your mother. Hahaha. I just realise what a great sig that would make. :up: