Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

While a number of wrestling insiders would disagree with Stephanie McMahon's belief that CM Punk's wrestling skills are not quite ready for primetime, she (and those whose heat has already been reported) is not the only WWE employee to have a less-than-stellar view of the wrestler.

According to PWTorch.com, several WWE wrestlers believe Punk comes off as "cocky" backstage.

Punk drew heat from some wrestlers for mockingly asking if he could dress in the same lockerroom as them.

Meanwhile, WWE officials continue to view his tattoos as a drawback for numerous reasons.

[Bad Superman]

I'm seriously considering not ordering Wrestlemania.

The matches are not worth it. I think WWE had a great chance of having a fresh new start with Edge as champion, but that was cut short. We're in for another Triple H long title reign and the burial of young deserving talent.

[da creole kid]

I don't like Triple H, but the guy is going to have a kid in 8 months. A nice little run probably won't be bad in putting guys like Shelton Benjamin, Chris Masters, and Carlito over.

Remember, as a heel, it required that he needs backup to maintain what he has. Triple H and Shelton Bejamin have mutual enemy in The Big Show. And after they mow though him. Shelton's got the Intercontinental Championship he has to win for his Mama. Hey! I don't think Triple H is big fan of the current I.C. Champ.

Though I wish Shelton had a better finisher.

[da creole kid]

I don't like Triple H, but the guy is going to have a kid in 8 months. A nice little run probably won't be bad in putting guys like Shelton Benjamin, Chris Masters, and Carlito over.

Remember, as a heel, it required that he needs backup to maintain what he has. Triple H and Shelton Bejamin have mutual enemy in The Big Show. And after they mow though him. Shelton's got the Intercontinental Championship he has to win for his Mama. Hey! I don't think Triple H is big fan of the current I.C. Champ.

Though I wish Shelton had a better finisher.

[citizenpain]

brian pillman's matches with jushin liger were some of my favorites. i don't remember too many of his wcw moments, but pillman was in the four horsemen for a while, wasn't he? right at the end of his wcw run.. and i don't remember if the match was good (i'm sure it was) but he actually fought eddie guerrero in one of his last wcw matches at clash of the champions xxxii. then he went to ecw and if i remember correctly, ecw was where he got the ticking timebomb nickname.. i don't think he actually wrestled over there tho. i loved him in wwf, especially with the hart foundation. the thing with pillman pulling a gun on austin was awesome, they're definitely gonna put that on the dvd. i'm definitely looking forward to it.

[Hunter Rider]

Hopefully the Pillman DVD is mostly his WCW pre 1995 work, as that's all pretty excellent. Matches I want on it:

vs. Ric Flair (WCW/NWA 1989-ish)
vs. Lex Luger for the US title (Halloween Havoc 1989)
vs. Richard Morton for the first WCW light heavyweight title
vs. Jushin Liger for the light heavyweight title (Winterfest 1991)
vs. Jushin Liger for the light heavyweight title (Superbrawl II, one of the greates matches of all time)
War Games 1991 (WCW Wrestlewar 1991, Sid DEMOLISHES Pillman)
vs. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat (WCW Halloween Havoc 1992)
vs. Sting (WCW US title tournament match, 1995)
vs. Johnny B. Badd (Fall Brawl 1995)
various Hollywood Blondes matches



Any other specific ones guys?

Thats a great list,id also have Pillman vs Austin for one of the Clashes as well as Beach Blast 93 Hollywood Blondes vs The Horsemen

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/mickfoley/foleyisblog

To a large degree, I am enjoying writing “Foley is Blog.” I hope you’ve enjoyed it as well. But, in a certain sense, I regret trying to manufacture controversy in order to get people interested in my web log. To be honest with you, the Flair piece was going to be a classic case of bait and switch, as I would bait the reader with the prospect for juicy Foley rebuttal to Flair’s criticisms of me and then switch to a largely complimentary analysis of Ric’s recent in-ring performance. So, for those of you who are interested in such an article, I will try to deliver it next week.

I also wonder if my following concerns might be more appropriately expressed in a personal phone call to Vince McMahon.

Before last Friday Night’s SmackDown, the Rey Mysterio (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/reymysterio/)/Eddie Guerrero (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/eddieguerrero/) stuff made me feel a little … weird. And not “weird in a good way,” either. More like weird in an uncomfortable way. Weird in an “I’m not sure this should really be on a wrestling show” way.

I know there has been a lot of talk since Eddie’s death about what Eddie would have wanted. I really don’t know. I didn’t truly know Eddie well enough to make that call. I had known Eddie for more than 10 years, though. I considered him a friend, and deep down, like most people who knew him, I genuinely liked him a lot. I can’t say with any certainty whether Eddie would have wanted his memory to be such a large part of the current SmackDown product.
I was truly blessed to have been Eddie’s roommate on the December 2004 SmackDown tour of Iraq. It had been quite a while since I’d had a roommate in WWE. Sure, I’ve been a notorious cheapskate on the road for many years — and many of the legendary tales of my thriftiness are not altogether undeserved. I will confess to sleeping on the cot at the Red Roof while representing the WWE as world champion, and I am the proud initiator of “Foley’s Four Hour Doctrine,” which settles the hotel vs. airport debate at a strict four hour limit. More than four hours before a wake up call for an early flight: hotel. Less than four hours: airport. You can read a book, listen to music, watch a DVD, (although I never owned a DVD player when traveling), and catch a nap. Just don’t waste hard-earned money on such a short hotel stay.
I’ve mellowed over the years. Father Time seemed to release the vice-like grip I’d had on my wallet for so many years. I traveled less, learned to love the tranquility of solitary, 200-mile drives, and learned that sleep was far more fruitful when not accompanied by drunken voices, loud sex, police sirens and the occasional gunshot. So, over the years, I grew out of the habit of rooming with anyone — to the point where I actually feared the potential of such an occurrence.
Such an occurrence was inevitable in Iraq. I shudder to think of the sounds that would come out of Big Show (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/bigshow/)’s body. I shuddered as well at the prospect of the words that would come out of JBL (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/jbl/)’s mouth. Fortunately, I got Eddie. I may not have known Eddie as well as I might have, but I remember breathing a sigh of relief when “Foley and Guererro” was announced. For Eddie Guerrero was respected and admired not only for his incredible in-ring abilities, but also for his kindness, soft-spoken demeanor and deep faith.

We stayed up late the first night talking not only of wrestling, but of God and family as well. Actually, I’m not sure we talked about wrestling at all. DisplayAd("LargeBody");http://oascentral.wwe.com/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/WWE/goal_URswp_300x250ros/urbanreign_sweepstakes_300x250.jpg (http://oascentral.wwe.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/mickfoley/foleyisblog/1837605756/Middle/WWE/goal_URswp_300x250ros/URswp_300x250ros.html/33656665343030643433616232623730?http://www.wwe.com/play/sweepstakes/urbanreign)

So often in life, we fail to tell people who are important to us just how we feel about them until it’s too late. Upon hearing of Eddie’s death, my sole source of comfort (other than firmly believing that Eddie Guerrero is in a better place) was that I had not been a victim of that failure. I had been able to tell Eddie how much I had enjoyed spending time with him and getting to know him better.
No, I didn’t know Eddie as well as some. And, as I mentioned earlier, I’m not an expert on what Eddie would have wanted. But, I have to believe that what Eddie would have wanted — and what we gave him last Friday on SmackDown — are two very different things.
I do not believe that Eddie’s wife appreciated the “Eddie’s in Hell” declaration. She just lost her husband. Mourning his loss is difficult enough.
I do not believe that Randy Orton (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/randyorton/) needs this type of cheap heat to be effective. No one knows better than I that Randy is an incredible talent. He can wrestle, he can talk, and he exudes an extreme brand of cockiness in the ring that makes him a natural bad guy. He doesn’t need this.
I’m not against having Eddie’s memory as an enduring legacy of SmackDown. I was touched by Batista (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/batista/)’s recent heartfelt words, and I don’t doubt for a moment that Rey Mysterio feels genuinely motivated by his late mentor’s spirit. And as I’ve told Chavo on a few different occasions, I considered the frog splash a tribute to Eddie on the night of his death to be one WWE’s truly great moments.
But the recent SmackDown episode did not honor his legacy, it exploited his death. I hope it will end, and the sooner the better. For by exploiting his death we achieve what I thought wouldn’t be possible: We cheapen his life.

[The Ghoul]

I love Foley.

[NDX]

I love Foley.

Indeed.

Reading the Smackdown! spoilers, I think I can sleep early Friday night.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.stormwrestling.com/020706.html

WWE: Thoughts and Observations

I seldom comment on the current WWE product, but as I watched the product over the last couple weeks, I had a lot of things jump out at me I thought worth commenting on. Here are some of my random WWE observations.
- How much of a breath of fresh air is Finlay? I realise he likely isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but he sure is a change of pace and if you like a realistic fight, man there is no one better. He was off for 6 years and didn’t miss a beat.
- Is MNM not the best Tag Team in the Business right now? Granted there isn’t a lot of competition out there right now, but each week they have the best match (or at least close to it) on the card.
- Am I the only one uncomfortable with the amount Eddie is still being used on TV? I’m all for keeping his memory alive, he was a great guy, but the stuff with Orton offends me to no end.
- What happened to the Title pictures in WWE? Heading into Wrestle Mania and the Title situation is awful. Both World Titles are going to be defended at Mania against guys winning #1 Contender matches. What happened to the yearlong build up, the 2 biggest matches of the year are going in almost completely cold? The Intercontinental Title has nothing. No offence to Flair, but as IC Champ, he has lost his last 2 programs (HHH, Edge). The RAW Tag Titles mean less. They’ve squashed every other tag team to the point there are no viable challengers, and they don’t even wrestle in tag matches anymore. Trish has a great build up going, as does Booker (I hope he’s healthy for Mania!!!!!!!) but Helms as Cruiser Champ and MNM as SD Tag Champs aren’t in anything specific yet either.
- RAW this week, maybe I missed something, but why was Jim Duggan, who last I checked was not on the active roster, wearing his gear when he came to the ring to volunteer to be guest ref? Also does it not bury old Hacksaw when the baby face wins and still doesn’t pick him as ref?
- I know this is nit picking, and I love Flair as much as the next guy, but could he waste more ball shots? This week he distracted the ref, low blowed HHH and then just got hit with a finish. It was completely meaningless and if anything made himself look weaker.
- Is there a Hall of Fame this year for Mania, and if there is who is getting in? I’m assuming there is but I’m not sure whom they have left to put in. There are a bunch of guys who should be, but will they is the question. I’ve heard Bret’s name, of course, but I heard he turned it down (internet rumours). Bruno still needs to go in. I realise he keeps turning them down, but I’d put him in anyway. Do a tribute video, have Vince accept on his behalf and put the man in already. Randy Savage is another top contender, but I don’t know if he and WWE are on the same page to make it happen. Jake Roberts is another possibility but since he didn’t do any DVD PR for WWE I assume he isn’t on solid ground with the company either. Here are a few of my picks for this year. The Road Warriors (It’s in Chicago after all), Ricky Steamboat (nothing needs to be said), Rick Martel (A former AWA World Champ in addition to his WWE contributions), Eddie Guerrero (Let Benoit or his wife accept).
Those are just a few of the things that crossed my mind this past week watching WWE programming.
Lance Storm

[Hunter Rider]

From WWE.com:

Today at noon, New Japan Pro Wrestling President Simon Inoki arrived in Stamford, CT, to meet with WWE Officials. WWE.com will have more details on Inoki's meeting with WWE as soon as they become available.

[da creole kid]

I love Lance Storm.

[The FallenAngel]

I wonder what Inoki was doing there? Maybe we'll see some Japan talent in the WWE. That can't do anything but help out their current product, IMO.

[The Ghoul]

It's probebly about lesnar. WWE keeps trying to make him not compete there (for lawsuit) but Lesnar's their champion.

[Hunter Rider]

PWInsider reports that a rumor is going around backstage that WWE spliced in footage of the crowd popping, from a previous event, when Cena won the title at the Rumble. This could have been from something a few years ago with The Rock or Steve Austin, and was used because the crowd didn't pop as loud as they had hoped for Cena.

WWE originally took the title off of Cena because most of their male adult demographic had been booing him, however didn't want to turn him heel because of how much merchandise he moves and the fact that the child and female demographics love him.

There are several indications that there is nothing behind these rumors however, one being that it is extremely hard to splice in old footage into a live broadcast without anyone noticing. Another is that WWE probably wouldn't have put the title back on Cena if they thought people were going to boo him, however as we all know, WWE does a lot of things that may not make sense to us.

It is still unknown whether Cena knows about this or, if it is true, whose decision it was.

WWE did recently do this for the clip of Candice Michelle on The Tonight Show that they added to their website.

[Sarge 2.0]

From WWE.com:

An Inspirational Champion
Feb. 9, 2006

The entire OVW roster surrounded the ring Wednesday night in Louisville, KY, as WWE Tough Enough III winner and OVW Champion Matt Cappotelli addressed the crowd in a truly touching moment.

The 26-year-old Cappotelli, who was on the verge of debuting on WWE television several times before being sidelined by a series of unfortunate events, was making his first OVW appearance since being diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. During his speech, Cappotelli expressed his love for professional wrestling and said that he would like to lead by example. He then did exactly that when he surrendered his title over to OVW official Danny Davis. According to the emotional Cappotelli, he fully accepts the responsibility of being a champion and his current situation unfortunately prohibits him from being champion right now.

Being a man of faith, Cappotelli believes that being diagnosed with a brain tumor happened for a reason. During his emotional speech, the Tough Enough III winner said that his faith will never waiver. In fact, he hopes to be an inspirational example to others going through similar situations.

The touching moment continued as many members of the OVW roster offered words of support as the crowd chanted “We love you, Matt.”

Afterwards, OVW official Paul Heyman was visibly moved by Cappotelli’s heartfelt speech, saying “It was surreal. It was amazing. It was divine.”

[Jason Blood]

I really can't believe they brought the Eugene gimmick back

with him being off TV again for the drug thing, you think they would drop the damn gimmick, make him Nick Dinsmore and make a tag team with Rob Conway (they tagged back in OVW)

[Sabretooth]

Triple H believes that John Cena lost the crowd's support due to Kurt Angle's failure to portray an effective heel.

One excuse WWE officials are using to explain his souring rapport with male WWE fans, however, is that the wrestler is simply too good looking. Those buying into this logic feel that male fans are threatened by the wrestler's looks.

WWE used the same excuse when fans turned on Shawn Michaels much earlier in his career.

Source: lordsofpain.net

[Eric Draven]

From WWE.com:

Man, Capotelli has had just an absolute string of bad luck. It seems like everytime the WWE is about to call him up, he gets an injury or something horrible happens to him.....

[The Undertaker]

Triple H believes that John Cena lost the crowd's support due to Kurt Angle's failure to portray an effective heel.

One excuse WWE officials are using to explain his souring rapport with male WWE fans, however, is that the wrestler is simply too good looking. Those buying into this logic feel that male fans are threatened by the wrestler's looks.

WWE used the same excuse when fans turned on Shawn Michaels much earlier in his career.

Source: lordsofpain.net


This company really is run by a bunch of monkey's.

[Eklypze]

Triple H believes that John Cena lost the crowd's support due to Kurt Angle's failure to portray an effective heel.

One excuse WWE officials are using to explain his souring rapport with male WWE fans, however, is that the wrestler is simply too good looking. Those buying into this logic feel that male fans are threatened by the wrestler's looks.

WWE used the same excuse when fans turned on Shawn Michaels much earlier in his career.

Source: lordsofpain.net

that is ****ing ridiculous i dont think ive ever heard anything so absolutely retarded in my whole life

[NDX]

Man, Capotelli has had just an absolute string of bad luck. It seems like everytime the WWE is about to call him up, he gets an injury or something horrible happens to him.....

It's a real shame. He was the only one I liked from Tough Enough III, too. I've been looking forward to him coming up for a while now, and everytime I hear he's about to come I think "finally" and then something happens to him. I hope he can get past this unfortunate turn and make a full recovery.

I picked up the new ECW dvd today. It's currently on sale at Best Buy for 17, and so far it's worth it. Definately glad I picked it up. Although now I have no time to watch any of my other dvds (including ROH's Round Robin Challenge and JAPW Best of Vol. 1).

[LastSunrise1981]

Triple H believes that John Cena lost the crowd's support due to Kurt Angle's failure to portray an effective heel.

One excuse WWE officials are using to explain his souring rapport with male WWE fans, however, is that the wrestler is simply too good looking. Those buying into this logic feel that male fans are threatened by the wrestler's looks.

WWE used the same excuse when fans turned on Shawn Michaels much earlier in his career.

Source: lordsofpain.net


Umm, Triple H, Kurt Angle couldn't be booed if he tried and he's one of those wrestlers who will be cheered no matter what. He ripped into the troops, ripped into the fans, and still got cheered because he's earned the respect of the fans.

As much as I can't wait to see HHH bury Cena he needs to understand one simple thing. People booed Cena and cheered Angle is because much like you H, people got tired of Cena and were not impressed by his "overcoming the odds" angle.

It got boring, cliche, and Cena is just a wrestler with the same ol song and dance.

[The Apatow Crew]

wrestling now of days is in the crapper. and this is coming from a fan of more than 15 years and i'm 25.

guys like chris benoit, chris jericho and others guys are getting shafted. well guys like the boogeyman is getting pushed to the sky. i might not let jbl much but i don't think he deserves to job to some one such as the boogeyman . i mean for gods sake the guy isa reject from tough enough for lying about his age and wwe still hires him. great lesson to teach the kids lie about stuff and your get what you want.

[The FallenAngel]

Triple H believes that John Cena lost the crowd's support due to Kurt Angle's failure to portray an effective heel.

One excuse WWE officials are using to explain his souring rapport with male WWE fans, however, is that the wrestler is simply too good looking. Those buying into this logic feel that male fans are threatened by the wrestler's looks.

WWE used the same excuse when fans turned on Shawn Michaels much earlier in his career.

Source: lordsofpain.netTrips can be a dick sometimes. Angle did a great job as a heel. He's just a guy that is respected no matter what.

As far as the Cena thing...HAHAHA! Yeah, cause, you know, were all so jealous of those facial expressions he makes, and his 2 dollar hair cut. :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

And all this time i was thinking we didn't like Cena because we watched the wrestling show for wrestling and he isnt very good at it:confused:

Now we know it's because we envy his hawtness eh fellas ?:rolleyes:

[The_Guyver]

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/mickfoley/foleyisblog

To a large degree, I am enjoying writing “Foley is Blog.” I hope you’ve enjoyed it as well. But, in a certain sense, I regret trying to manufacture controversy in order to get people interested in my web log. To be honest with you, the Flair piece was going to be a classic case of bait and switch, as I would bait the reader with the prospect for juicy Foley rebuttal to Flair’s criticisms of me and then switch to a largely complimentary analysis of Ric’s recent in-ring performance. So, for those of you who are interested in such an article, I will try to deliver it next week.

I also wonder if my following concerns might be more appropriately expressed in a personal phone call to Vince McMahon.

Before last Friday Night’s SmackDown, the Rey Mysterio (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/reymysterio/)/Eddie Guerrero (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/eddieguerrero/) stuff made me feel a little … weird. And not “weird in a good way,” either. More like weird in an uncomfortable way. Weird in an “I’m not sure this should really be on a wrestling show” way.

I know there has been a lot of talk since Eddie’s death about what Eddie would have wanted. I really don’t know. I didn’t truly know Eddie well enough to make that call. I had known Eddie for more than 10 years, though. I considered him a friend, and deep down, like most people who knew him, I genuinely liked him a lot. I can’t say with any certainty whether Eddie would have wanted his memory to be such a large part of the current SmackDown product.
I was truly blessed to have been Eddie’s roommate on the December 2004 SmackDown tour of Iraq. It had been quite a while since I’d had a roommate in WWE. Sure, I’ve been a notorious cheapskate on the road for many years — and many of the legendary tales of my thriftiness are not altogether undeserved. I will confess to sleeping on the cot at the Red Roof while representing the WWE as world champion, and I am the proud initiator of “Foley’s Four Hour Doctrine,” which settles the hotel vs. airport debate at a strict four hour limit. More than four hours before a wake up call for an early flight: hotel. Less than four hours: airport. You can read a book, listen to music, watch a DVD, (although I never owned a DVD player when traveling), and catch a nap. Just don’t waste hard-earned money on such a short hotel stay.
I’ve mellowed over the years. Father Time seemed to release the vice-like grip I’d had on my wallet for so many years. I traveled less, learned to love the tranquility of solitary, 200-mile drives, and learned that sleep was far more fruitful when not accompanied by drunken voices, loud sex, police sirens and the occasional gunshot. So, over the years, I grew out of the habit of rooming with anyone — to the point where I actually feared the potential of such an occurrence.
Such an occurrence was inevitable in Iraq. I shudder to think of the sounds that would come out of Big Show (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/bigshow/)’s body. I shuddered as well at the prospect of the words that would come out of JBL (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/jbl/)’s mouth. Fortunately, I got Eddie. I may not have known Eddie as well as I might have, but I remember breathing a sigh of relief when “Foley and Guererro” was announced. For Eddie Guerrero was respected and admired not only for his incredible in-ring abilities, but also for his kindness, soft-spoken demeanor and deep faith.

We stayed up late the first night talking not only of wrestling, but of God and family as well. Actually, I’m not sure we talked about wrestling at all. DisplayAd("LargeBody");http://oascentral.wwe.com/RealMedia/ads/Creatives/WWE/goal_URswp_300x250ros/urbanreign_sweepstakes_300x250.jpg (http://oascentral.wwe.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/mickfoley/foleyisblog/1837605756/Middle/WWE/goal_URswp_300x250ros/URswp_300x250ros.html/33656665343030643433616232623730?http://www.wwe.com/play/sweepstakes/urbanreign)

So often in life, we fail to tell people who are important to us just how we feel about them until it’s too late. Upon hearing of Eddie’s death, my sole source of comfort (other than firmly believing that Eddie Guerrero is in a better place) was that I had not been a victim of that failure. I had been able to tell Eddie how much I had enjoyed spending time with him and getting to know him better.
No, I didn’t know Eddie as well as some. And, as I mentioned earlier, I’m not an expert on what Eddie would have wanted. But, I have to believe that what Eddie would have wanted — and what we gave him last Friday on SmackDown — are two very different things.
I do not believe that Eddie’s wife appreciated the “Eddie’s in Hell” declaration. She just lost her husband. Mourning his loss is difficult enough.
I do not believe that Randy Orton (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/randyorton/) needs this type of cheap heat to be effective. No one knows better than I that Randy is an incredible talent. He can wrestle, he can talk, and he exudes an extreme brand of cockiness in the ring that makes him a natural bad guy. He doesn’t need this.
I’m not against having Eddie’s memory as an enduring legacy of SmackDown. I was touched by Batista (http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/batista/)’s recent heartfelt words, and I don’t doubt for a moment that Rey Mysterio feels genuinely motivated by his late mentor’s spirit. And as I’ve told Chavo on a few different occasions, I considered the frog splash a tribute to Eddie on the night of his death to be one WWE’s truly great moments.
But the recent SmackDown episode did not honor his legacy, it exploited his death. I hope it will end, and the sooner the better. For by exploiting his death we achieve what I thought wouldn’t be possible: We cheapen his life.

You gotta love this guy, he is a true legend and he speaks the truth.

Mick Foley is a professional writer and one of the greatest wrestlers ever, they should have him head the WWE writing team. They really need help.

[Bad Superman]

that is ****ing ridiculous i dont think ive ever heard anything so absolutely retarded in my whole life

:up: That pretty much describes WWE's product and logic these days. :down

[The Apatow Crew]

And all this time i was thinking we didn't like Cena because we watched the wrestling show for wrestling and he isnt very good at it:confused:

Now we know it's because we envy his hawtness eh fellas ?:rolleyes: so i'm guessing i'm one of the only guys that likes cena. as a wrestler i mean. don't get no funny ideas.

[Hunter Rider]

so i'm guessing i'm one of the only guys that likes cena. as a wrestler i mean. don't get no funny ideas.

Im sure there are other guys that like Cena's in ring work they just don't post in this thread

[TheVileOne]

The fact of the matter is that Cena's ring-work has been sub-par since he became a main player. He was doing better in 2003 and parts of 2004. But who was he working with then? Guys like Angle, Benoit, Guerrero on a regular basis.

[nite-owl]

I found these on youtube I don't know if you've seen them they're pretty funny so enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Botch-a-mania?v=j9uAMGf3UIg&search=botch%20a%20mania

http://www.youtube.com/w/Botch-A-Mania-3?v=ZdtlNw0QPqU&search=botch%20a%20mania

[nite-owl]

Damit double post:mad:

[TheVileOne]

Thanks nite-owl. I've seen those before. Some of them are kind of sick because I think one of the clips is a puro guy (Hayabusa) performing a move that paralyzed him.

Those backyard morons are just stupid.

Its funny seeing Sid mess up though.

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks nite-owl. I've seen those before. Some of them are kind of sick because I think one of the clips is a puro guy (Hayabusa) performing a move that paralyzed him.

Those backyard morons are just stupid.

Its funny seeing Sid mess up though.

Your correct,that is where Hayabusa ended up paralysed and shouldn't really be in there IMO and i agree with you on the stupid kids doing Schweins of rooftops through tables:down

Some of the other missed timed stuff is funny,like Low Ki getting his feet caught as Sabu tries to hit him with the chair and Steiner falling off the apron against Test which was the only entertaining thing to come from that unsufferable feud

BTW was The Shockmaster supposed to be serious ? and how badly hurt was Pillman from Sid's botched Powerbomb in the Wargames match ?

[TheVileOne]

Yes the Shockmaster was supposed to be serious as far as I can tell.

I'm not sure how badly hurt Pillman was from that move. He was still working over the year though.

[Bizzybone]

Who here thinks that Sting could beat Billy Goldberg?

[TheVileOne]

Eh well...in a shoot fight, who knows.

In WCW, Goldberg won all of their matches. One match on Nitro for the world title in September 1998. Another at Halloween Havoc in 1999 which was basically just a 3 minute squash.

[Hunter Rider]

Yes the Shockmaster was supposed to be serious as far as I can tell.

I'm not sure how badly hurt Pillman was from that move. He was still working over the year though.

:eek: But it was Tugboat:confused:

Source: PWInsider

-- Apparently the person playing Shelton Benjamin's Mama on air has an internal injury that needs attending to, which is why they needed to come up with an angle to get her off TV. They decided to go with the heart attack angle.

-- Most recently storylines in WWE are said to have come from Vince McMahon. Vince seems to be the main creative force in WWE at the moment, including the brains behind the Eddie Guerrero and Tim White storylines.

[Bad Superman]

Who here thinks that Sting could beat Billy Goldberg?

For some odd reason a mental image came into my mind of a bald Billy Gunn with Goldberg attire and goatie while taunting with his butt, as the Badass gimmick. . . . . I need some alcohol. :D

[Bizzybone]

Well Sting did beat Billy Goldberg. The only reason he lost was because Hulk Hogan came out of nowhere.

[Sarge 2.0]

-- Most recently storylines in WWE are said to have come from Vince McMahon. Vince seems to be the main creative force in WWE at the moment, including the brains behind the Eddie Guerrero and Tim White storylines.Behold my utter lack of suprise.

[The Ghoul]

how old are you?

[Sarge 2.0]

Who, me? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Who, me? :confused:

Bizzybone (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/member.php?u=36291) vbmenu_register("postmenu_7783257", true);

[Sarge 2.0]

From WWE.com:

The Heart Throbs released
February 10, 2006

WWE has come to terms on the release of both John Roselli (Romeo) and Thomas Matera (Antonio) today, February 10,2006. We wish them both the best in all future endeavors.

[Hunter Rider]

From Dave Meltzer

--To make a bad angle even worse, Vickie Guerrero and her daughters will be stationed at ringside during the Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton match at No Way Out on 2/19. To say there is a lot of heat on this decision is this week's major understatement.

[Eric Draven]

BTW was The Shockmaster supposed to be serious ?

Ah, the Shockmaster, I remember reading how much wrestlecrap just absolutely ripped into that gimmick.

Yeah, originally, it was supposed to be a serious character, but after he tripped in his debut appearance, they decided to make him a bumbling fool afterwards.....

[TheVileOne]

Please for the love of God do NOT use Eddie's family for this travesty.

The person I feel bad for the most is Rey. This isn't about his own merit, his career, or himself as a wrestlers, its just about EDDIE GUERRERO.

And it makes me sick.

[LastSunrise1981]

:eek: But it was Tugboat:confused:

Source: PWInsider

-- Most recently storylines in WWE are said to have come from Vince McMahon. Vince seems to be the main creative force in WWE at the moment, including the brains behind the Eddie Guerrero and Tim White storylines.


That really explains it then. What little respect I had for Vince is completely gone now.

What a classless and moronic thing to do with Eddie's legacy/name.

[TheVileOne]

**** WWE.

I am done with their disgusting bull****.

[Hunter Rider]

If Rey wins and celebrates with the Guerrero family it will be a fitting send off ,a bit tacky yes but it would be the correct moral ending and i wouldn't mind that...............however if Orton wins and then flaunts it.it will rank as truly the most tasteless thing in WWE history

[Twitch]

Spanky and London just had a great match with MNM until Melina did the usual interference :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Spanky and London just had a great match with MNM until Melina did the usual interference :rolleyes:

Twitch i just remebered i never made those Beavis and Butt head avvies:(
send them to me and ill hook you up:o :up:

[Donnie Darko]

haha, Finlay is the man

also, I brought it up a couple weeks ago, and now with that Sid clip the idea is back... are we ever gonna see Wargames again?!

[Twitch]

Twitch i just remebered i never made those Beavis and Butt head avvies:(
send them to me and ill hook you up:o :up:

Alright man :up:

[The Batman]

The Undertaker and Kurt Angle, teaming up together?

Henry and MNM are gonna get the ass whupping of a lifetime next weak...

[NDX]

Question, when did Hayabusa become paralyzed? I didn't know about this and when I read it here, I'd like to know when it happened.

[Colossal Spoons]

- I'm not surprised one bit that the Tim White/ EG angles are his doing. All I can do is shake my head in disgust.

- Does that mean that Eddie's family is not only ok with this exploitation of his death, but they're gonna participate in it!?

- The Spanky/London vs MNM match was the best I've seen on SD in a good long while. If MNM had a diff gimmick; they just might go somewhere.

- What Finlay did to the Juniors was great. I derive some twisted kind of humor out of seeing pissed off Irishmen abuse midgets and dwarves haha.

[Mister J]

The Finlay-Juniors thing was funny as hell. As soon as I heard the "My name is Finlay and I loves to fight", I just started laughing hysterically. That was too much fun.


I'm left floored by this whole Eddie thing. So now Vicki and her daughters are gonna be at the PPV? I'm thinking that Vicki didn't just volunteer for that and there was some 'talking her into it'. I can't even imagine the smarmy lines that Vince fed her. But hey, she co-signed on it. Still, the whole thing just sucks to me. Vince knows no bounds, but given all the support and desired reaction that the stuff has received, why start now?

[Hunter Rider]

Apparently the ROH surprise to replace Low Ki is.....

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1751/19st1.jpg

[LastSunrise1981]

Apparently the ROH surprise to replace Low Ki is.....

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1751/19st1.jpg


And who is this guy? Is that Steve Corrino? :eek:

But seriously, who is that guy?

[The FallenAngel]

CM PUNK!!! How can that be?!

[Sarge 2.0]

And who is this guy? Is that Steve Corrino? :eek:

But seriously, who is that guy?CM ****ing Punk!

But there's no way that can happen. :confused:

He's in OVW, and Vince would rather die than let a worker he's "developing" book indy shows.

[Hunter Rider]

CM ****ing Punk!

But there's no way that can happen. :confused:

He's in OVW, and Vince would rather die than let a worker he's "developing" book indy shows.

He seemingly has,Punk is there and given the fact Shelley has been pulled by TNA from the title match im guessing he will wrestle AmDrag

[Sarge 2.0]

He seemingly has,Punk is there and given the fact Shelley has been pulled by TNA from the title match im guessing he will wrestle AmDragI hope to God you're right hunter, because that means I'll be seeing Punk at the 3/11 and (possibly) 4/22 show. :D

[The Ghoul]

that's ****ing cool, Punk is awesome, so much so /i forget about him being a straight edge emo ***

[Eric Draven]

CM ****ing Punk!

But there's no way that can happen. :confused:

He's in OVW, and Vince would rather die than let a worker he's "developing" book indy shows.

Vince could do it for a company like ROH. Remember, Vince also "loaned" a lot of wrestlers to ECW back in the day......

[NDX]

CM Punk returned to "speak sense" into Colt Cabana about his feud with Homicide (who was pulled from the show, along with Shelly and Lethal, ****ing TNA), which failed, and saw Cabana tearing apart Grim Reefer.

"American Dragon" Bryan Danielson faced Xavier (as Shelly's replacement) to receive a DQ win when "Scrap Iron" Adam Pierce and Jimmy Rave ran in and attacked Dragon. This lead to CM Punk running in attempting to make the save but got his ass handed to him. This set up the main even tag match.

CM Punk teamed with American Dragon against "Scrap Iron" Adam Pierce and Jimmy Rave w/ Prince Nana in the main event. The end say Punk forcing Rave to tap and then ending the show with his East Coast farewell speach, and off the OVW he goes.

Very good event this evening. As the matches went on, they just got better and better. Also left the place with 8 dvds. I'm broke, tired, wet and seen some of the best wrestling I have in 10 months. **** the snow.

Since I can't make the March 25th show (I already have free tickets to the UXW show on the same evening, headlined by Raven v. Rhino for Rhino's Heavyweight title), I might be roadtripping it to the March 11th show (classes willing).

[NDX]

I'm too tired for this double post ****.

[nite-owl]

Source: PWTorch.com

According to reports, WWE superstar Rob Van Dam fears that he will no be getting a better push than which he has had in previous years with WWE. He expressed these thoughts in a recent interview with the latest edition of the WWE Magazine.

He also spoke with the Long Bach Press-Telegram. He said "I had to fight with them for everything," on his previous WWE stint. "Hopefully, it will be different now. As far as merchandising goes, they're supposed to have my new t-shirt available at the Royal Rumble and I'll be on the cover of the new Raw magazine. I think I showed them something with my interview at the ECW pay-per-view (June 12, 2005), (so) now maybe they have more confidence in my ability behind the microphone."

When brought up who he would like to wrestle, brought up Shawn Michaels: "Long term, I wanna go after HBK... A lot of my friends had mentioned that they'd like to see me in the ring with him, but I wasn't really feeling it. But, I ended up ordering Summerslam in August and watched Shawn Michaels wrestling Hulk Hogan, I changed my views. I saw two very skilled guys have a great match and bring out the best in each other. I feel like I could bring that out again in HBK."

[Hunter Rider]

Glad you enjoyed the show NDX,what was Punk's pop like ?

I don't usually agre with BY wrestling but these 2 kids have a lot of talent and don't use light tubes or any such nonsense,you should all give it a watch:)

http://www.youtube.com/w/TRUE-backyard-wre...ard%20wrestling (http://www.youtube.com/w/TRUE-backyard-wrestling?v=BXHtlfq4kVo&search=backyard%20wrestling)

[Sarge 2.0]

CM Punk returned to "speak sense" into Colt Cabana about his feud with Homicide (who was pulled from the show, along with Shelly and Lethal, ****ing TNA), which failed, and saw Cabana tearing apart Grim Reefer.

"American Dragon" Bryan Danielson faced Xavier (as Shelly's replacement) to receive a DQ win when "Scrap Iron" Adam Pierce and Jimmy Rave ran in and attacked Dragon. This lead to CM Punk running in attempting to make the save but got his ass handed to him. This set up the main even tag match.

CM Punk teamed with American Dragon against "Scrap Iron" Adam Pierce and Jimmy Rave w/ Prince Nana in the main event. The end say Punk forcing Rave to tap and then ending the show with his East Coast farewell speach, and off the OVW he goes.

Very good event this evening. As the matches went on, they just got better and better. Also left the place with 8 dvds. I'm broke, tired, wet and seen some of the best wrestling I have in 10 months. **** the snow.

Since I can't make the March 25th show (I already have free tickets to the UXW show on the same evening, headlined by Raven v. Rhino for Rhino's Heavyweight title), I might be roadtripping it to the March 11th show (classes willing).That UXW event sounds awesome, also, you should definitely check out the March 11th show, as me and another Hypester will be there. I'm glad that the NY event was fun. :up:

[Savage]

I found these on youtube I don't know if you've seen them they're pretty funny so enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Botch-a-mania?v=j9uAMGf3UIg&search=botch%20a%20mania

http://www.youtube.com/w/Botch-A-Mania-3?v=ZdtlNw0QPqU&search=botch%20a%20mania
LOL! Oh man. *adds to favorites* :D The one with Kurt trying to open the cage is just the best.

[Sabretooth]

LOL! Oh man. *adds to favorites* :D The one with Kurt trying to open the cage is just the best.
I also liked when Goldberg tripped during his entrance. Bwahahaha :D :up:

[The FallenAngel]

Glad you enjoyed the show NDX,what was Punk's pop like ?

I don't usually agre with BY wrestling but these 2 kids have a lot of talent and don't use light tubes or any such nonsense,you should all give it a watch:)

http://www.youtube.com/w/TRUE-backyard-wre...ard%20wrestling Thanks for the link. Those kids have some talent.

[NDX]

Glad you enjoyed the show NDX,what was Punk's pop like ?

Hmm... saying it was big would be an understatement.

That UXW event sounds awesome, also, you should definitely check out the March 11th show, as me and another Hypester will be there. I'm glad that the NY event was fun.

Even though missing the tag match on the 25th will suck, the UXW (USA Pro Wrestling) event has a series of good matches and stars showing up that could make for one of their best events of recent time. Rhino (c) v. Raven. Homicide v. Sabu. And Balls Mahoney v. Abyss. But knowing Frank Goodman, one of those three matches probably won't be taking place. http://www.usaprowrestling.net/marshow06.htm

So far my friends and I want to go to the Philly ROH show, but it all depends on classes. Barely made it to this event because of student teaching.

[NDX]

Source: PWinsider


For those who are curious, WWE developmental wrestler CM Punk's appearance at his old home Ring of Honor last night was a one-time deal. Punk asked for permission to come back and help his old company when Low Ki pulled out of the show last week and was given permission by WWE to do so. It was made a surprise for obvious reasons and had it gotten out, he wouldn't have been able to appear. The show was treated as a "East Coast Sendoff" to Punk, who never got to say goodbye to that side of the ROH fanbase. WWE Diva Maria was backstage at the show and signed autographs for any fans who asked after the show. Rumors that Paul Heyman and/or Tommy Dreamer were at the event are unfounded and incorrect.

[Mister J]

I also liked when Goldberg tripped during his entrance. Bwahahaha :D :up:

That was funny cause he's supposed to be all badass and fell on his.

[nite-owl]

LOL! Oh man. *adds to favorites* :D The one with Kurt trying to open the cage is just the best.

My favourite is when sid messes up or the debut of the shockmaster.:D

[Bad Superman]

I can't believe WWE has stooped into a new low exploiting Eddie's death. I wonder why the family is supporting this??!!?? The only thing I can think of is that Rey will win enroute to Wrestlemania. I don't know, I'm shocked.

[SLYspyder]

Please for the love of God do NOT use Eddie's family for this travesty.

The person I feel bad for the most is Rey. This isn't about his own merit, his career, or himself as a wrestlers, its just about EDDIE GUERRERO.

And it makes me sick.

can you all just calm down?

they wouldn't be doing this if the guerrero's weren't fine with this!

who knows how much they're getting paid.

[SLYspyder]

- The Spanky/London vs MNM match was the best I've seen on SD in a good long while. If MNM had a diff gimmick; they just might go somewhere.



wow, how retarded are you? MNM is already one of the biggest draws on smackdown. let's go ahead and change their gimmick, so they'll end up on velocity in a few months.

[Twitch]

meh,

[The Ghoul]

Ilike the gimmick they stoped name dropping people who obviously have no idea who they are. & they started acting like celebrities themselves which is cool

[LastSunrise1981]

can you all just calm down?

they wouldn't be doing this if the guerrero's weren't fine with this!

who knows how much they're getting paid.

Stop being an WWE apologist and sticking up for them. They're exploiting Eddie's name and you know it, and I doubt Vicky, God bless her, she seems like a wonderful lady and stuck with Eddie all through his darkest times. I sincerely doubt she's still in the right frame of mind.

Either way what the WWE is doing is very sickening.

[The Ghoul]

I've stopped being offended by WWE long ago. I'm not condoning what they decide to do, but I've been taking it with a grain of salt. It's just how it works for now. It won't last. Back in the early 90s, gimmicks were what they did because they just came out of the larger than life 80s. Now they are all getting offensive & lame because they're out of the attitude era when it was about beiing edgy & saying ***** a lot. Give it time they'll be innovative again they're in there transitional phase.

[LastSunrise1981]

I've stopped being offended by WWE long ago. I'm not condoning what they decide to do, but I've been taking it with a grain of salt. It's just how it works for now. It won't last. Back in the early 90s, gimmicks were what they did because they just came out of the larger than life 80s. Now they are all getting offensive & lame because they're out of the attitude era when it was about beiing edgy & saying ***** a lot. Give it time they'll be innovative again they're in there transitional phase.

They'll never be innovative as long as Stephanie and her soap-opera writers are part of the creative process.

[Eric Draven]

I've stopped being offended by WWE long ago. I'm not condoning what they decide to do, but I've been taking it with a grain of salt. It's just how it works for now. It won't last. Back in the early 90s, gimmicks were what they did because they just came out of the larger than life 80s. Now they are all getting offensive & lame because they're out of the attitude era when it was about beiing edgy & saying ***** a lot. Give it time they'll be innovative again they're in there transitional phase.

Yep. I'm not really a huge fan of what they're doing with Rey and Orton, but it probably won't get me to stop watching wrestling. Eventually, the WWE will latch onto a new phase and it'll just be business as usual...

[punishermax]

Apolo is no longer with TNA Wrestling.


Meh, I could care less.

[SLYspyder]

Stop being an WWE apologist and sticking up for them. They're exploiting Eddie's name and you know it, and I doubt Vicky, God bless her, she seems like a wonderful lady and stuck with Eddie all through his darkest times. I sincerely doubt she's still in the right frame of mind.

Either way what the WWE is doing is very sickening.

i'm not being a ****in apologist. i'm not crazy about the whole thing but if his wife doesn't have a problem with it, i don't see why you should be crying about it so much.

[TheVileOne]

can you all just calm down?

they wouldn't be doing this if the guerrero's weren't fine with this!

who knows how much they're getting paid.
I could honestly care less if they are fine with it.

Its still disgusting and pathetic.

[Bizzybone]

Who will win a fight Billy Goldberg or the Big Show?

[Sarge 2.0]

Who will win a fight Billy Goldberg or the Big Show?Did you hear that Hulk Hogan might be joining WCW? I'm shocked! :eek::o

[DOG LIPS]

Did you hear that Hulk Hogan might be joining WCW? I'm shocked! :eek::o
No way! :eek:

[Bizzybone]

Did you hear that Hulk Hogan might be joining WCW? I'm shocked! :eek::o


:O :) :( Word to my moms.

[Colossal Spoons]

wow, how retarded are you? MNM is already one of the biggest draws on smackdown. let's go ahead and change their gimmick, so they'll end up on velocity in a few months.

Wow, ease up on Vinnie Mac's balls would ya?

http://www.livinginthelightms.com/trollhippie.JPG

[Mister J]

Been a long time since we've had RAW pre-empted for the damn dog show.

[DOG LIPS]

Stupid ass dog show. :mad:







I'm going to watch it. :(

[Sabretooth]

Well,apparently Chavo is pretty pissed off about the segment. WHen Randy actually said Eddie was in hell,Chavo was in the back with his head in his hands.

[Colossal Spoons]

USA always gives dog shows and Wimbeldon priority over RAW and I hate it.


Aw, poor Chavo :(

[White_Howling]

can you all just calm down?

they wouldn't be doing this if the guerrero's weren't fine with this!

who knows how much they're getting paid.

i know funds from eddies book goes to his family..

pretty sure vince is paying them to keep their mouth shut about the whole "eddie in hell plot"

[Sarge 2.0]

Stupid ass dog show. :mad:







I'm going to watch it. :(I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

[DOG LIPS]

I'd be disappointed if you didn't.
I'd never miss all those fine ass b**ches. :up::up:

[Hunter Rider]

RAW is still on here tonight,i really hope Edge wins and Foley turns heel on Cena but alas WM22 dies a little bit more tonight.......thanks HHH:(

[Colossal Spoons]

Where are you HR? England?

[Hunter Rider]

Where are you HR? England?

Yup,we are still getting RAW as usual tonight for some reason

[DOG LIPS]

Yup,we are still getting RAW as usual tonight for some reason
Keep your spoilers to yourself, punk. :mad: :(

[Hunter Rider]

Keep your spoilers to yourself, punk. :mad: :(

you don't want me to spermalize the thread with spoilery ?:(

[White_Howling]

humm list all the wrestler that can pick up and slam the big show..

all i've got is angle, and leasly

[Colossal Spoons]

Keep your spoilers to yourself, punk. :mad: :(

Yeah, or we'll be forced to knock a few of your bicuspids loose.

"Bicuspids" is Booker T's new word these days; had to use it this week.

[Sarge 2.0]

humm list all the wrestler that can pick up and slam the big show..

all i've got is angle, and leaslyCena did it.

[Colossal Spoons]

humm list all the wrestler that can pick up and slam the big show..

all i've got is angle, and leasly

Batista, Lesnar, and....Luger lol.

[DOG LIPS]

you don't want me to spermalize the thread with spoilery ?:(
I don't want you to spermalize ANYTHING. :(:(:(:(

[Hunter Rider]

I don't want you to spermalize ANYTHING. :(:(:(:(

Thats not what you said last night ya basteed:mad:

[DOG LIPS]

Thats not what you said last night ya basteed:mad:
What happens last night STAYS last night. :mad:

[Hunter Rider]

What happens last night STAYS last night. :mad:

You should really explain that to Sava:(

[Twitch]

HR, you're such a player :up:

[White_Howling]

i want spoilers!!! with spoiler tags pls

anyone pickup the WWE Divas 2006 Lingerie Magazine??

[Eklypze]

so what all matches are on that new ECW dvd? im thinking about picking it up this week

[Sabretooth]

HR, you're such a player :up:
But..but I thought I was such the player.:(

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, post some spoilers for those of us who can't wait till Thursday. :up: :D

[Eric Draven]

Yup,we are still getting RAW as usual tonight for some reason

Yeah, same here.

I think the biggest announcement would have to be who's going to be inducted into the HOF on April 1 :o

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, same here.

I think the biggest announcement would have to be who's going to be inducted into the HOF on April 1 :oThey announced it tonight?

[DOG LIPS]

Damn those dogs are sexy. :(:up:

[Eric Draven]

Well, they announced one of the wrestlers who's going to be inducted. But it's the one that everyone wanted....

[Mister J]

That was good news. I just checked out the WWE website. No real desciption of the show; just a few tidbits. Nothing interesting. Good news on the HOF though.

[Sabretooth]

Well, they announced one of the wrestlers who's going to be inducted. But it's the one that everyone wanted....
PM me or put it in spoiler tags.

[Eric Draven]

The positioning of the announcement raises a lot of questions as well......

Yeah, don't read this if you don't want to get Raw spoiled for you:

After Shawn refuses to sign the retirement papers, Vince walks away and madly says that he's going to make Shawn's life a living hell. Right after that is the Bret Hart HOF announcement. Is that leading to something? Or is it just pure coincidence?:confused:

[The FallenAngel]

From WWE.com

Bob Orton Released
February 14, 2006

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Bob Orton. We wish him the best in all future endeavors.

[Sabretooth]

Considering how Shawn is such a babyface right now and Vince is a heel,it would seem weird to basically have Bret be heel and attack Shawn. And I mean,how much could he really do without hurting himself?

[Eric Draven]

From WWE.com

Bob Orton Released
February 14, 2006

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Bob Orton. We wish him the best in all future endeavors.

Well, at least it's continuing on with the pattern. Two years ago(I think), Chavo Sr. was brought along to help out Chavo Guerrero right before WM 20. Chavo Sr. got released a few months afterwards. Now it appears the same has happened with Bob Orton.....

[Eric Draven]

Considering how Shawn is such a babyface right now and Vince is a heel,it would seem weird to basically have Bret be heel and attack Shawn. And I mean,how much could he really do without hurting himself?

Well Shawn is supposedly going to be only a part-time wrestler after WM22. Maybe it seems like Bret is initially on Vince's side but eventually sides with Shawn? Or could this set up Bret as the new Raw GM?

[The FallenAngel]

Well Shawn is supposedly going to be only a part-time wrestler after WM22. Maybe it seems like Bret is initially on Vince's side but eventually sides with Shawn? Or could this set up Bret as the new Raw GM?I would love it if that happened.

[Sabretooth]

I'd like to see Bret as GM,but I just get the feeling maybe they'll show a promo of Shawn and Bret walking into each other and eyeing each other at WM22,and nothing else. But,you never know....

[The Ghoul]

Or Bret could ref Vince vs Shawn say he's impartial because he hates them both only to screw Michaels like vince wanted sence thiis aangle first began.... God I should be writing for Vince

[Eklypze]

so what all matches are on that new ECW dvd?

[Sarge 2.0]

Well, they announced one of the wrestlers who's going to be inducted. But it's the one that everyone wanted....And the one who didn't want it at all. :o

I wonder if he's going to show up for the ceremony...

[Eklypze]

for some reason i bet bret doesnt show up

[Bad Superman]

Comment from the RAW tapings (SPOILERISH)

Great. . . Big Show and Triple H's match ends in a count out and Vince orders a rematch for next week so the winner faces RVD in the finals for the Title Shot at Wrestlemania. We all know what's going to happen: Triple H gets to bury RVD enroute to Wrestlemania. . . YET AGAIN.

[The FallenAngel]

Unless it changed recently, I heard it was going to be Show vs. RVD vs. HHH.

[Bad Superman]

Unless it changed recently, I heard it was going to be Show vs. RVD vs. HHH.

Yeah, I just re-read that. I think the outcome, unfortunately, will be the same.I wouldn't mind seeing RVD get the title, but that is highly unlikely. I think Edge should've held the belt for a while.

[The Ghoul]

so what all matches are on that new ECW dvd?

give me like an hour or so I am at school. but I have it. it is great, I'll post them when i get home... unless someone else does first.

But off the top of my head I know there is...

Beaula V Alfonso
Public Enemy V Cactus Jack & Mikey Whipreck
Tommy Dreamer V C.W. Anderson "I Quit."
Ian Rotten V Axl Rotton..... Taped Fist+Glue+Glass= TAI PEI DEATHMATCH!!!!

[Bizzybone]

I would love see the Warrior come back for some action.

[Sarge 2.0]

I would love see the Warrior come back for some action.The Ultimate Warrior? No thank you. :o

[The Ghoul]

DISC-1

Cactus & mikey v PE
sandman & funk v cactus & douglas
ian v axl TAIPEI DEATHMATCH.
Rey v psicosis
douglas v jericho v scorpio v pitbull #2
Dreamer v brian lee
RVD v Sabu
funk v sandman v big stevie cool

DISC-2
Sabu v Funk... barb wire
beulah v alfonso
taz v bam bam
taz v douglas
dudleyz v spike & balls
awesome v spike
rhino v sandman
super crazy v tajiri v Little guido
dreamer v CW Anderson I Quit(with alt commentary w/ dreamer & coach)
awesome v tanaka (WWE: ECW ONS)
music video recap

extras (interviews... at ONS) (disc 2)
axl on taipei
various people on the violence
flaming tables
CW on his i quit match
danny doring & roadkill on how they got started
pitbulls
justin credible on being champ
mikey & cactus v PE history package

bonus match****gangstas v PE

[Eric Draven]

for some reason i bet bret doesnt show up

I think he will. I mean, after-all, he and the WWE did get together to make a very respectable dvd. Plus, he's getting honored by the WWE for his achievements. I really see no reason why he won't show up.....

[Eklypze]

actually i retract that statement i read somewhere but cant really remember where that itsd confirmed bret will show up make a small speech and be done with it and thanx guys for posting that that terry funk vs sabu barb wire match is brutal i love it when sabu ripped open his bicep

[Sabretooth]

Yeah,he'll be there. They're not paying him so his whole ''never stepping in a WWE ring'' thing would still be true basically.

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah,he'll be there. They're not paying him so his whole ''never stepping in a WWE ring'' thing would still be true basically.

I'd love to see him comeback and give a goodbye speech to the fans in the middle of the ring.

Imagine the pop he would receive? :eek: I'm happy that he's inducted to the Hall of Fame and he deserves it. :up:

[supraman]

can someone tell me what happened between bret hart, shawn, and vince? like what made him quit.

[NDX]

Written by Tim Brown on 02/14/06

To update on the situation with Undertaker and Bob Orton, The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Orton had hepatitis as a teenager and had actually forgotten he had it because it was 35 years ago. Apparently he was just sick for a couple weeks then never thought about it again. Randy also had no idea.

When Bob was recently tested by a WWE doctor, who is friends with The Undertaker and was alarmed when he was bleeding all over him in the Hell In A Cell. Bob then got another test was was told he was fine, which is what he initially thought as he has had tons of blood baths, always drank, and never made anyone else sick before. He is blaming the doctor for alarming everyone about it when there was really nothing to worry about.

Taker was alerted and was furious at Johnny “Ace” Laurinaitis, who knew the results of the test and didn’t tell Taker. Johnny Ace had to go to a house show and personally talk things out with a very unhappy Undertaker.

As you’ve probably guessed, these events are likely what lead to his release from the company.

[LastSunrise1981]

can someone tell me what happened between bret hart, shawn, and vince? like what made him quit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Screwjob

Bret didn't quit, it was his last televised pay-per-view match and well, you can read for yourself. :up: :)

@NDX- I'd hate to have to talk face to face with a very unhappy Undertaker.

[NDX]

@NDX- I'd hate to have to talk face to face with a very unhappy Undertaker.

He really does look intimidating. Hell, meeting the guy twice for a simple signature and he was still intimidating, while being nice to us.

Although he didn't want to sign my shirt. Forced him to anyway.

Edit: From TNAWrestlingNews.com: (http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/)

TNAWrestlingNews.com has learned that Chris K 'Kanyon' will be attending the TNA TV tapings tonight in Orlando, FL.

No word on if he will be used but he is backstage.

By the way, that Kanyon-Gay thing is a total work/storyline. It's basically to get his name back in the mix.

[Mister J]

can someone tell me what happened between bret hart, shawn, and vince? like what made him quit.

Wow, dude...

In November 1997, Bret was (then) WWF Champ. His contract was about to expire and he had signed with WCW. Obviously, he couldn't leave with the title, so Vince wanted him to drop it at Survivor Series to Shawn Michaels.

Survivor Series happened to be in Montreal where Bret is way over. He didn't wanna lose his last match in his home country. Vince countered this by coming up with a scenario where the match would be a double DQ. Then the title would be declared vacant and Bret could leave.

Vince didn't wanna put himself in the position where Bret could show up on WCW TV and still be the Champ (i.e., screw him over). In response, Vince lied about the double DQ thing and wound up having the referee ring the bell while Michaels had Bret in the Sharpshooter. It was supposed to look like Bret submitted when he didn't and Michaels was given the title. Bret realized that he got screwed, spit on Vince at ringside and then punched him in the eye backstage. Bret went on to WCW and has had ill will toward WWE ever since.

There's other personal drama associated with this whole thing, but that's the meat of it.

[Mister J]

By the way, that Kanyon-Gay thing is a total work/storyline. It's basically to get his name back in the mix.

That's a hell of a way to throw your name back out there, but hey...

[The Ghoul]

By the way, that Kanyon-Gay thing is a total work/storyline. It's basically to get his name back in the mix.

That is awesome. I never would have thought of doing that for hype... although I always thought a great character would be someone whose sexual orientation was ambigious. like he would have a valet who would bee all francine/douglas dry humping. but would make gay iinuendo where you wern't sure iif he was joking, bisexual or in the closet... kind like goldust but more human than award statuette/fetish... thing.

[Hunter Rider]

RAW was good (mostly) this week,i'll put results in tags but i can tell you that Cena vs Edge was the best match Cena has ever had and you all know Bret is coming back for the HOF which is cool

The HHH/Show match was great and had a top finish but as usual Vince ruined it by keeping both in the tournament when clearly a feud between the 2 singularly is better
the other tournament match was pretty m3h but at least RVD won cleanly


The Vince/Shawn segment was really good with a ton of heat on Vince and a lot of pop for HBK,i hope they give Shawn one last good opponent for Mania to end his run

Edge/Cena was very good,better than the inevitable borefest that will be HHH/Cena,to bad WWE have no balls and went for the crappy Cena superman win with Edge attacking Foley afterwards...*sigh* WM22 is gonna blow

[Twitch]

If Shawn is gonna slow down after WM. I want a HBK 3-Disc Set as soon as possible. Basically I want him to have the Bret Hart deal for his DVD. :ghost::up:

[Sarge 2.0]

He really does look intimidating. Hell, meeting the guy twice for a simple signature and he was still intimidating, while being nice to us.

Although he didn't want to sign my shirt. Forced him to anyway.

Edit: From TNAWrestlingNews.com: (http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/)

TNAWrestlingNews.com has learned that Chris K 'Kanyon' will be attending the TNA TV tapings tonight in Orlando, FL.

No word on if he will be used but he is backstage.

By the way, that Kanyon-Gay thing is a total work/storyline. It's basically to get his name back in the mix.Well, I think that's a pretty cowardly thing to do...it would have been loads more progressive for the business to have an openly gay worker in such a socially conservative field. Especially if he was a gay guy that just happened to be a pro wrestler, instead of some sort of tasteless storyline thing.

[3dman27]

Yup,we are still getting RAW as usual tonight for some reason
i think i've got you answer hunter the raw show was HELD on monday as usual but usa has TAPE DELAYED its broadcast to thursday:spidey: :thing:

[LastSunrise1981]

RAW was good (mostly) this week,i'll put results in tags but i can tell you that Cena vs Edge was the best match Cena has ever had and you all know Bret is coming back for the HOF which is cool

The HHH/Show match was great and had a top finish but as usual Vince ruined it by keeping both in the tournament when clearly a feud between the 2 singularly is better
the other tournament match was pretty m3h but at least RVD won cleanly


The Vince/Shawn segment was really good with a ton of heat on Vince and a lot of pop for HBK,i hope they give Shawn one last good opponent for Mania to end his run

Edge/Cena was very good,better than the inevitable borefest that will be HHH/Cena,to bad WWE have no balls and went for the crappy Cena superman win with Edge attacking Foley afterwards...*sigh* WM22 is gonna blow

Look at it this way, it's going to be a BLAST to watch Cena be booed out of the arena against HHH. :) :up:

I just want HHH to bury him into mid-card Hell.

[Hunter Rider]

PWInsider is reporting that last year Dusty Rhodes opted out of appearing at the Hall Of Fame because he knew that Hogan would overshadow everyone, and this year he thinks that both Hart and Guerrero would overshadow him.

Dusty Rhodes is in the process of finalizing a long-term deal with WWE and moving up in power. The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Stephanie McMahon wanted to sign him to an exclusive deal, but Rhodes likes being able to work indy dates and do autograph signings. There is also talk of signing Rhodes to perform on TV in some way.

[Hunter Rider]

Look at it this way, it's going to be a BLAST to watch Cena be booed out of the arena against HHH. :) :up:

I just want HHH to bury him into mid-card Hell.
the thing is Cena is just a pawn,he worked really hard on RAW and is basically just being set up for HHH's little list he likes to read off now and then
Im not anti-Trips as you know but his feud with Show is actually pretty good and will be replaced by a match no one wants:confused:

i think i've got you answer hunter the raw show was HELD on monday as usual but usa has TAPE DELAYED its broadcast to thursday:spidey: :thing:

Yep:up: did anyone watch the dog show ?

[Sarge 2.0]

DL was probably fapping his brains out, ask him. :o

[The FallenAngel]

I didn't watch it. I was in the mood for wrestling, more so than usual, so I watched ROH Final Battle 2005. Pick it up if you haven't done so already. It's fantastic.

[TheVileOne]

Well I got Final Battle and it is easily the best ROH show of 2005.

You can read my review of Final Battle 2005 here:

http://www.rohwrestling.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21051

Rider, don't you get it? Vince is HBK's opponent.

[Hunter Rider]

Well I got Final Battle and it is easily the best ROH show of 2005.

You can read my review of Final Battle 2005 here:

http://www.rohwrestling.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21051

Rider, don't you get it? Vince is HBK's opponent.

Hence the word hopehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gifi know what is likely i just hope they come up with something more interesting than Vinnie's ego as his opponent

[Eric Draven]

I doubt we'll be that lucky. It's definitely going to be Vince only so Vince could wrestle yet another HOF wrestler....:(

Although, I'll laugh if Vince's definition of making Shawn's life a "living hell" is to bring back remnants of old HBK opponents....:confused:

[Hunter Rider]

good review Vile.just so you know for next time it's the Shiranui and Busaiku Knee Kick :phttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[The FallenAngel]

Very good review Vile. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

I doubt we'll be that lucky. It's definitely going to be Vince only so Vince could wrestle yet another HOF wrestler....:(

Although, I'll laugh if Vince's definition of making Shawn's life a "living hell" is to bring back remnants of old HBK opponents....:confused:

Like a week to week return for all his old rivals hinting at a Bret appearance at WM22 ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

they could at least make it a handicap ladder match like the one with Austin at KOTR-99 and Have HBK face Vince and Shane for his contract

[Sabretooth]

I'd rather it be Shane vs. HBK. That would actually be a pretty good match. :up:

[Jason Blood]

Coolest Wrestling Finisher EVER (http://www.youtube.com/w/MUSCLE-Mr.-Magician-vs.-Naoshi-Sano?v=8fTdaLE3CWg)

[Eric Draven]

Like a week to week return for all his old rivals hinting at a Bret appearance at WM22 ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif


.......which means Marty Jannetty could return yet again ;)

[Jack Bauer]

Coolest Wrestling Finisher EVER (http://www.youtube.com/w/MUSCLE-Mr.-Magician-vs.-Naoshi-Sano?v=8fTdaLE3CWg)

Who is that well dressed masked wrestler?

[TheVileOne]

good review Vile.just so you know for next time it's the Shiranui and Busaiku Knee Kick :phttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thank you Rider and Fallen Angel.

And my japanese isn't great so sue me. In America we call the Shiranui the sliced bread #2. And busaiku knee kick...was that Kenta's finisher after the Go To Sleep?

[Eklypze]

who all do you guys think would even be worth bringing in to mess with hbk? all i could really think of would be marty jannety and maybe psycho sid

[TheVileOne]

I'd just book HBK vs. RVD at Wrestlemania instead of this Vince McMahon BS.

[Eklypze]

i agree hbk and rvd would be perfect for wm

[Hunter Rider]

Thank you Rider and Fallen Angel.

And my japanese isn't great so sue me. In America we call the Shiranui the sliced bread #2. And busaiku knee kick...was that Kenta's finisher after the Go To Sleep?

Yep,he wins most of his matches with it,ive never seen him beat anyone with the Go To Sleep even though it is listed as his main move

[Hunter Rider]

I'd just book HBK vs. RVD at Wrestlemania instead of this Vince McMahon BS.

While that would be a fun match it wouldn't work in context of the angle or for RVD's push since HBK will win at WM22

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: WO.com

Mike "Johnny Grunge" Durham was pronounced dead on arrival at an Atlanta area hospital this morning.

The only available details were he was at a friend's house in Peachtree City, GA, and was gasping for air and rushed to the hospital. The preliminary diagnosis from the hospital is that it was said to have to do with complications from sleep apnea.

Grunge and the late Rocco Rock (Ted Petty), as the tag team of Public Enemy, were the first major stars created by ECW in a program against The Funk Brothers. They became ECW's most popular act, to the point they were subject to a bidding war of sorts between WCW and WWF. However, taken out of the ECW environment, they weren't as successful.

Grunge, whose age is believed to be 39, was said by friends to have never been the same since Petty's death.

[Hunter Rider]

-- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that the feeling backstage is that Rey Mysterio is more over with fans and would make a better challenger for the title than Randy Orton

[The Ghoul]

Credit: WO.com

Mike "Johnny Grunge" Durham was pronounced dead on arrival at an Atlanta area hospital this morning.

The only available details were he was at a friend's house in Peachtree City, GA, and was gasping for air and rushed to the hospital. The preliminary diagnosis from the hospital is that it was said to have to do with complications from sleep apnea.

Grunge and the late Rocco Rock (Ted Petty), as the tag team of Public Enemy, were the first major stars created by ECW in a program against The Funk Brothers. They became ECW's most popular act, to the point they were subject to a bidding war of sorts between WCW and WWF. However, taken out of the ECW environment, they weren't as successful.

Grunge, whose age is believed to be 39, was said by friends to have never been the same since Petty's death.

that's not what i want to come home & read

[Mister J]

I am so tired of seeing all the boys die young. Unfortunately, I can't even say I'm shocked anymore. This whole 'phenomenon' is just sad.

RIP, J. Grunge.

[Hunter Rider]

CM Punk continues to be the most newsworthy member of the Ohio Valley Wrestling roster as PWInsider reports that he's receiving heat from fellow wrestlers for working the Ring Of Honor show this weekend.

Punk's backstage attitude has already been met with disapproval from his colleagues, and his decision to work an indy event this past weekend, albeit with WWE management's blessing, did nothing to make him more endearing.

The wrestler's frequent appearances in the news serve as a double-edged sword. On the one hand, he is on the radar to a much greater extent than the typical OVW wrestler. On the other hand, it is not as if the majority of the press is favorable.

One source says that there was an idea floating around that would have seen Punk called up as a tag team partner for Matt Hardy, but creative nixed that idea.

In a bit of interesting related news, the word going around Ring Of Honor circles is that the indy promotion actually offered CM Punk a deal prior to his signing with WWE that would have seen him make far more than he gets from OVW.

[LastSunrise1981]

Credit: WO.com

Mike "Johnny Grunge" Durham was pronounced dead on arrival at an Atlanta area hospital this morning.

The only available details were he was at a friend's house in Peachtree City, GA, and was gasping for air and rushed to the hospital. The preliminary diagnosis from the hospital is that it was said to have to do with complications from sleep apnea.

Grunge and the late Rocco Rock (Ted Petty), as the tag team of Public Enemy, were the first major stars created by ECW in a program against The Funk Brothers. They became ECW's most popular act, to the point they were subject to a bidding war of sorts between WCW and WWF. However, taken out of the ECW environment, they weren't as successful.

Grunge, whose age is believed to be 39, was said by friends to have never been the same since Petty's death.

:( That is just too sad.

[Eric Draven]

I kind of like the prospect of a Hardy/Punk pairing. And it could've fit with what's happening with Hardy at the moment....

[NDX]

Credit: WO.com

Mike "Johnny Grunge" Durham was pronounced dead on arrival at an Atlanta area hospital this morning.

The only available details were he was at a friend's house in Peachtree City, GA, and was gasping for air and rushed to the hospital. The preliminary diagnosis from the hospital is that it was said to have to do with complications from sleep apnea.

Grunge and the late Rocco Rock (Ted Petty), as the tag team of Public Enemy, were the first major stars created by ECW in a program against The Funk Brothers. They became ECW's most popular act, to the point they were subject to a bidding war of sorts between WCW and WWF. However, taken out of the ECW environment, they weren't as successful.

Grunge, whose age is believed to be 39, was said by friends to have never been the same since Petty's death.

****.

[The Flash!]

Who do you guys think will win between RVD, Show, and HHH?

I'm for RVD. :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

Who do you guys think will win between RVD, Show, and HHH?

I'm for RVD. :up:

HHH.

I just want to see HHH bury Cena. Because if HHH loses next Monday, only to have Show or RVD win, they'll be made to look weak to Cena and they'll become fodder to the unstoppable Cena machine.

So it'll be Cena vs. HHH at WM and it'll be a pleasure watching the fans boo Cena out of the building.

[The Ghoul]

Who do you guys think will win between RVD, Show, and HHH?

I'm for RVD. :up:

I love RVD, I may be one of the biggest ECW marks. While I would love to see him go for and win the title, & eventually i think he will. It's just not going to be now. As big as bull**** as it is, it's WWE.

btw I pick HHH.

[Mister J]

Who do you guys think will win between RVD, Show, and HHH?

I'm for RVD. :up:

I'm thinking H is gonna pin RVD, especially if that rumor about the two of them from a couple weeks back is true.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWInsider.com

During the Canadian airing of SmackDown! tonight, Michael Cole announced that RAW's Chavo Guerrero will be at SmackDown's No Way Out PPV this weekend in Baltimore, alongside Eddie Guerrero's wife Vicki

Say hello to your WM22 inter promotional "i loved Eddie more" match.

[Hunter Rider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/JaYo2904/cenarubber.jpg

[Mister J]

That's just scary lookin'.

[Lobo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/JaYo2904/cenarubber.jpg


LOL that should be your avvy HR ;).


I'd love to see RVD be champion but thats not gonna happen....yet.

[The Apatow Crew]

Johnny Depp's Other Job

http://i1.tinypic.com/nyb68o.jpg

yo ho a pirates life for me.



MR............ KENNEDY!!!!!!


KENNEDY!

[Super_Ludacris]

Great to hear that Bret Hart is going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame

[The Apatow Crew]

Great to hear that Bret Hart is going to be inducted into the Hall of Fameyeah i know. isn'nt it great. he was my fave growing up.

[The Apatow Crew]

Has anyone seen these tim white videos on wwe.com?

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/timwhite/videos/

the sound effects are something out of a comedy movie

i guess wwe thinks suicide is funny or something to them.

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah. Those are pretty dumb, and Vince's doing. *shocked and amazed*

[The Apatow Crew]

Yeah. Those are pretty dumb, and Vince's doing. *shocked and amazed*i mean drowning in a fish tank with a brick around you neck?

[Sarge 2.0]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/JaYo2904/cenarubber.jpgBless Angle for trying.:o

[Lobo]

yeah i know. isn'nt it great. he was my fave growing up.


The best there is, the best there was, and the best that there ever will be :up:

[The Apatow Crew]

The best there is, the best there was, and the best that there ever will be :up:that's so true right there. damn Goldberg.

[Lobo]

that's so true right there. damn Goldberg.


:mad: :(

[The Apatow Crew]

:mad: :(i know someone should kick him right in his bald head.

[Eklypze]

am i the only one that thinks cena looks like a retarded matt damon in that picture??

[The Ghoul]

am i the only one that thinks cena looks like a retarded matt damon in that picture??

in that pic he does, normally he looks like a retarded mark walberg which is why i use marky mark instead of vanilla ice in my cena disses

[Lobo]

Cena, Damon, Marky Mark all from Boston. and he looks like Marky Mark the most imo

[The FallenAngel]

Personally, I don't care who he looks like. I don't want to see that stupid face or that 2 dollar hair cut ever again. HHH better bury him to hell.

[Eric Draven]

Say hello to your WM22 inter promotional "i loved Eddie more" match.

Damn, that sucks :(

Really, really sucks :(

[The Flash!]

Anyone have the SD spoilers for tonight?

[Sabretooth]

I never noticed that Gregory Helms' theme music has that Spider-Sense sound from the Spider-Man movies in it.

[punishermax]

Yet again, a Smackdown show that was much better than Raw.

[NDX]

Now that was a fun ending to Smackdown!. Looking forward to reading the results of NWO now.

[The FallenAngel]

I really enjoyed Smackdown. The ending was great. This Angle/Taker feud is awesome.

[Sarge 2.0]

They better bring up Punk as Hardy's partner for NWO. I can't really think of anyone else...the entire SD locker room is in this pay per view.

[Eric Draven]

I can think of one other wrestler who could be Hardy's partner at NWO: Road Warrior Animal :(

[Capt Throbberson]

I heard it's confirmed to be Animal

Disappointing.

[The Flash!]

Yep I heard it was Animal, once Heidenrich got released. There were reports saying Animal would be tag teaming with Hardy...

[Sarge 2.0]

...:(

[Eric Draven]

Ugh, ANimal and Hardy are like the worst team-up ever. I mean, honestly. Who's clamouring for those to be a tag-team? :rolleyes:

Seriously, Punk would've been a much, much better partner....

[Capt Throbberson]

True, but I doubt they'd debut him at a PPV

[The Ghoul]

a lot of guys debuted at a ppv, look at Angle & Undertaker. Certiified legends & headliners of said PPV.

I was watching SD! & I was noticing something. You think they are developing a "Hollywood" Stable with MNM as celebrities & Mark Henry as the big black bodygaurd with Davari as a sleezey manager.

[The Flash!]

Ugh, ANimal and Hardy are like the worst team-up ever. I mean, honestly. Who's clamouring for those to be a tag-team? :rolleyes:

Seriously, Punk would've been a much, much better partner....

Sadly, I don't think that would happen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/Master_Bruce/flash.gif

[Eric Draven]

I'd rather have a wrestler debut on a PPV anways. I mean, people are paying money to see a three hour show, might as well do stuff that normally wouldn't be on a tv show.

That's actually a problem with most WWE PPVs now anyways. Most of the stuff there you could see on an ordinary week on Raw or SD...

[Duende Verde]

Great to hear that Bret Hart is going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame
The induction ceremony is on April 1st, Vince wouldn't go all the way and make this an April Fools prank, right?

[Sabretooth]

Ugh, ANimal and Hardy are like the worst team-up ever. I mean, honestly. Who's clamouring for those to be a tag-team? :rolleyes:

Seriously, Punk would've been a much, much better partner....
Two egomaniacs as partners? No way....;)

[Mister J]

The induction ceremony is on April 1st, Vince wouldn't go all the way and make this an April Fools prank, right?

I never thought about that.
Vince has no boundaries and I certainly wouldn't put it past him. I hope this isn't the case, but I can totally see Vince doing such a thing if Bret told him no. He wouldn't think anything of it. It'd just be more 'business'.


Given the DVD they put out and the fact they're giving it so much build-up, I think it's legit.

[Sabretooth]

I'd be royally pissed if that happens. Not just because Vince would prank the hell out of me,but because Bret really does deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

[Mister J]

He definately deserves to be in. Everything I heard said he didn't wanna go in though. Now obviously, they could just put him in without showing up, nut that sucks. After this Eddie thing, I put nothing past Vinnie Mac. He wouldn't even think it was f'ed up, just another angle.

[Lobo]

I didnt watch SD somebody give me spoilers :o

[The Flash!]

I didnt watch SD somebody give me spoilers :o

Mysterio beat Sylvain.

Orlando Jordan lost to the Boogeyman.

Lashley and Benoit lost to JBL and Finlay. (cause Booker T hit Benoit with a chair while the ref wasn't looking.)

Gregory Helms beat Scotty 2 Hotty.

Angle and Taker beat MNM and Mark Henry.


http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/images/smilies/flash.gif

[White_Howling]

damn that was a great ending.. just watched the last match on wwe..
takers freaking strong

[Mister J]

damn that was a great ending.. just watched the last match on wwe..
takers freaking strong

I didn't expect him to be able to scoop up Henry's fat ass for that Tombstone so easily. The Choke Slam was impressive too. I know Henry has to "cooperate", but still that was some height.

[White_Howling]

mark henrey has strong legs.. so the height wasn't that much of a shock..

but a 380 pound tombstone... DAMN!!! hope it didn't hurt his knees doing it

[Lobo]

mark henry is in the guiness book of world records as the heaviest man to ever dunk a basketball ona regulation height hoop. he weighed in at 411lbs at the time


The Rock has done vertical suplex's on henry si it was more him than Taker but that is impressive none the less :o

[White_Howling]

vertical suplex with a stall? or just a quick suplex?

[Mister J]

Now that I think about it, I remember his big ass dunking. It was quite a sight. I thought he was gonna embarass himself. The man is an athlete.

[White_Howling]

anyone got a link to that?

[NDX]

Regarding Bret Hart returning to WWE to do the Hall of Fame Ceremony, Vince McMahon personally called Bret Hart on or around the morning of 2/6 to invite him to take part in the WWE Hall of Fame ceremonies this April. McMahon pushed the idea that Hart could do it for his fans as a way to thank them since it was obviously something that his fans wanted, as a way to give them closure.

Hart agreed, but in keeping with his stance that he would never work for WWE again, is not being paid for the appearance. WWE will handle the travels and lodging costs associated with bringing the former WWF champion and his wife to Chicago for the Wrestlemania festivities.

While WWE creative would love to get Hart involved in the Shawn Michaels-Vince McMahon storyline, he has continued to turn down any overtures regarding that involvement.

It is expected that Hart will appear at Wrestlemania 22 in a segment where he and the other Hall of Fame inductees are introduced to the live crowd in the Allstate Arena. Hart's final Wrestlemania appearance was 1997's Wrestlemania 13 in the same venue, where he defeated Steve Austin in an I Quit match that set Austin off on the path to become the biggest babyface of the last decade.

A few readers have asked if the late Owen Hart would also be inducted into the Hall of Fame. I've heard no such talk. Owen's widow Martha has been on estranged terms, to say the least, with not just WWE but the Hart family in recent years.

[Lobo]

vertical suplex with a stall? or just a quick suplex?


quick

[Sarge 2.0]

Now that I think about it, I remember his big ass dunking. It was quite a sight. I thought he was gonna embarass himself. The man is an athlete.Just not a very good wrestler. :o

[Super_Ludacris]

Regarding Bret Hart returning to WWE to do the Hall of Fame Ceremony, Vince McMahon personally called Bret Hart on or around the morning of 2/6 to invite him to take part in the WWE Hall of Fame ceremonies this April. McMahon pushed the idea that Hart could do it for his fans as a way to thank them since it was obviously something that his fans wanted, as a way to give them closure.

Hart agreed, but in keeping with his stance that he would never work for WWE again, is not being paid for the appearance. WWE will handle the travels and lodging costs associated with bringing the former WWF champion and his wife to Chicago for the Wrestlemania festivities.

While WWE creative would love to get Hart involved in the Shawn Michaels-Vince McMahon storyline, he has continued to turn down any overtures regarding that involvement.

It is expected that Hart will appear at Wrestlemania 22 in a segment where he and the other Hall of Fame inductees are introduced to the live crowd in the Allstate Arena. Hart's final Wrestlemania appearance was 1997's Wrestlemania 13 in the same venue, where he defeated Steve Austin in an I Quit match that set Austin off on the path to become the biggest babyface of the last decade.

A few readers have asked if the late Owen Hart would also be inducted into the Hall of Fame. I've heard no such talk. Owen's widow Martha has been on estranged terms, to say the least, with not just WWE but the Hart family in recent years.

Damn
:(

[Hunter Rider]

Ive been enjoying Henry,he works a smarter big man style than most have for a whiel and paces himself well,im actually looking forward to his match with taker i just wish Taker was Bikertaker again:(

Booker T-"Dastardly Customers"=Pure Goldhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Super_Ludacris]

Nah Biketaker was kinda weak, He will always be the dead man that was like the definition of his career

[Hunter Rider]

Nah Biketaker was kinda weak, He will always be the dead man that was like the definition of his career

He was unwatchable for 6 years to me,i hate the zombie stuff and lightning blowing up the ring
Biker Taker was a real chaarcter and his matches were much better because he actually bothered to sell the other guys moves instead of doing the zombie nonsense