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[da creole kid]

1. He is going to win the "Money in the Bank" by overcoming coming another Carlito/Masters alliance.

2. He will lose the Tag Titles the next night to Carlito and Masters.

3. He will have a crazy blood feud with Chris Masters during the promotion of the film!

4. He will win the WHT against anyone if the movie is successful.

5. If the movie flops, he loses to anyone except Triple H.

6. If and when he beats Triple H he'll lose the title in the next pay-per-view.

[Hunter Rider]

1. He is going to win the "Money in the Bank" by overcoming coming another Carlito/Masters alliance.

2. He will lose the Tag Titles the next night to Carlito and Masters.

3. He will have a crazy blood feud with Chris Masters during the promotion of the film!

4. He will win the WHT against anyone if the movie is successful.

5. If the movie flops, he loses to anyone except Triple H.

6. If and when he beats Triple H he'll lose the title in the next pay-per-view.

Even if the movie is a hit it doesn't mean he can draw money as a character in WWE and HHH will be feuding with Cena right through the period his movie is out,,,,,,,,,your just guessing but i will bet with you right now that he doesn't get the WWE title

[Sarge 2.0]

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Triple H notices two midcarders getting dangerously close to over.
Triple H: HEY KNOCK IT OFF YOU TWO!!I love how he's so chill. That's how you're supposed to be a champion, not freaking out with Jim Carrey-esque movement in an attempt to seem intense.

[da creole kid]

hunter rider- If his movie makes money, his "character" already DID his job.

Anyway, a box office success opens up chance for a sequel. In which the pre-production of that movie will be his title reign, and when production begins he will lose it in a "Hell in the Cell" or "Buried Alive" match.

If he is box office failure. It really depends on how they handle the Triple H feud. If HHH is champion by the time the Kane/Chris Masters/movie promo feud is over he'll certainly win because you need him around to atleast to promote its immediate release on DVD.

If the WWE is extra careful and makes Cena champion, Kane won't win but he'll still main event for the sake of the DVD sales.

[Hunter Rider]

hunter rider- If his movie makes money, his "character" already DID his job.

Anyway, a box office success opens up chance for a sequel. In which the pre-production of that movie will be his title reign, and when production begins he will lose it in a "Hell in the Cell" or "Buried Alive" match.

If he is box office failure. It really depends on how they handle the Triple H feud. If HHH is champion by the time the Kane/Chris Masters/movie promo feud is over he'll certainly win because you need him around to atleast to promote its immediate release on DVD.

If the WWE is extra careful and makes Cena champion, Kane won't win but he'll still main event for the sake of the DVD sales.

Random B horror teen slasher movies always do reasonably well on opening weekend that still doesn't mean anyone is gonna pay $30 to see him wrestle,the movie will be mildly succesfull b/c teen slasher pics always are but thats doesn't have anything to do with him being in it

[Capt Throbberson]

I love how he's so chill. That's how you're supposed to be a champion, not freaking out with Jim Carrey-esque movement in an attempt to seem intense.
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/327/3de5da97b47c6b2762b8c3914624a5.jpg

[SLYspyder]

um, why would they wait to see if the movie is a success in order to give him the belt?
they give him the belt in order to MAKE the movie a success.

[Jason Blood]

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/327/3de5da97b47c6b2762b8c3914624a5.jpg
ROFLCOPTER!

[Hunter Rider]

Stacy calls WWE "A circus"
Reported by Colin Vassallo
E-mail: editor@wrestling-online.com

Feb 23, 2006, 13:36

- Stacy Keibler was a guest on the 'Mark and Kim Show' on KOST 103.5 in Los Angeles this morning to talk about her Dancing With The Stars appearance. Stacy said that since starting the show she had movie offers, TV stuff and different endorsement deals coming her way and she is now living her dream.

When the host asked about WrestleMania 22, Stacy said she's going to have a meeting with Vince McMahon to see what's going happen after this. Stacy added that for the past seven years she's been traveling 'with a circus' four times a week, paying for her own hotel and rental cars and no health insurance from WWE. She then threw in a shot at Triple H saying, "Triple H makes all the money!" Ouch! You can listen to the MP3 of all this courtesy of the 'Mark and Kim Show' below:

http://www.wrestling-online.com/news/pictures/keibler.wma (http://www.wrestling-online.com/news/pictures/keibler.wma)

[SLYspyder]

wow, i think she should be a little bit more gracious, because if not for the WWE, she wouldn't be where she is right now.

[Sarge 2.0]

Goddammit. If I had 5,000 posts that Spidey suit would so be my avatar right now. :(

[Mister J]

wow, i think she should be a little bit more gracious, because if not for the WWE, she wouldn't be where she is right now.

The WWE gave her a platform but it's not as if they did her a favor. She got to where she is by doing well on that platform, she wasn't handed anything. If Stacy has had enough and can take advantage of other opprtunities, I don't see that as a problem or her being ungrateful.

[Hunter Rider]

She's pretty friendly with Steph and trips anyway and if you listen to the audio she says it with a laugh

[Sabretooth]

Goddammit. If I had 5,000 posts that Spidey suit would so be my avatar right now. :(
The suit is a piece of crap that is nothing like the greatness that is the Black suit in the comics. :(

[citizenpain]

sarge, what's wrong with your current avatar? the image of scarlett's boobs bouncing or being groped or whatever is one that dreams are made of. i actually just saw that clip for the first time on ifilm just the other day... it's fairly unfair how gay dudes always get to feel up on girls with no consequence. gah.

and stacy... good for her. someone mentioned her run in wcw and i must agree that she had a better time there... at least she had a real character, she wasn't just another slutty diva. did anybody watch dancing with the stars tonight? did stacy advance?

[Sarge 2.0]

The suit is a piece of crap that is nothing like the greatness that is the Black suit in the comics. :(Oh no, the disease of internet fandom has infected you as well. :(

I'm like a one of the few survivors left in a zombie movie or some ****. :(

[Sabretooth]

Oh no, the disease of internet fandom has infected you as well. :(

I'm like a one of the few survivors left in a zombie movie or some ****. :(
From an artistic point of view,the photo is great with how Spidey looks like he's sulking and also gives the impression that the movie will be much darker than the first two. But I will be pissed off if they say that that is the symbiote. Where's the completely white eyes? The white spider on his chest?

After looking at it a good long while,I admit that it does seem to be growing on me. It's still not what I expected,but still cool. :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

I doubt that it's the full effect of the symbiote. It might be a gradual process, unlike the instant look change from the comics.

[Capt Throbberson]

I was disappointed too

Reminds me of Marvel vs. Capcom where one of the secret characters was carnage, only instead of it actually being carnage it was an orange venom.

[Bizzybone]

yep

[Eric Draven]

You know, watching SD tonight, I came to the conclusion that Gregory Helms has like the coolest theme music. And yeah Sabretooth, I noticed that bit of Spidey-sense during his theme.

[Jason Blood]

You know, watching SD tonight, I came to the conclusion that Gregory Helms has like the coolest theme music. And yeah Sabretooth, I noticed that bit of Spidey-sense during his theme.
Gregory Helms does indeed have the best music

[Capt Throbberson]

I finally caught the spider sense sound in it

[Sarge 2.0]

Chris Hero (http://chrishero.livejournal.com/) is such a douche, he keeps kayfabe when blogging on his LiveJournal. :rolleyes:

And his fans eat it up and act like he really means it. :confused:

[Sabretooth]

Despite the Eddie angle, Smackdown has been kicking ass these past couple of weeks. :up:

[LastSunrise1981]

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/u/ultimatewarrior/22.jpg

I found this strangely amusing. Seeing him going by his legal name on C-Span is very funny in a way.

But damn he looks so different now. I found this picture on the Chris Jericho Message Board.

[Mr. Socko]

He can't wrestle for a hill of beans.

And SD was exceddingly Sucky, WOW!

But why am I saying Wow? This is no surprise.

[Mister J]

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/u/ultimatewarrior/22.jpg

I found this strangely amusing. Seeing him going by his legal name on C-Span is very funny in a way.

But damn he looks so different now. I found this picture on the Chris Jericho Message Board.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
No seriously, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I can't convey how hard I'm laughing right now.
:D:D:D:D

Thanx you Sunrise.

[Capt Throbberson]

He can't wrestle for a hill of beans.

And SD was exceddingly Sucky, WOW!

But why am I saying Wow? This is no surprise.
Because usually smackdown's are pretty good.

Yeah, this one was subpar, but it was still better than most Raws lately

[Mister J]

Damn. I just turned on Smackdown and I missed the Melina entrance.

[Capt Throbberson]

They never show anything anyways

[Mister J]

They never show anything anyways

True. I'm just consistently impressed. That, and I'm waiting for her to screw it up and fall.

[Mister J]

Am I the only one who finds the GM role a complete joke? It's so inconsistent, it's ridiculous.

[Colossal Spoons]

and they get disrespected nightly.

[Mister J]

Either they have authority or they don't. When there's blatant cheating/oustide interference, they do nothing. Other times, they restart matches order re-matches or take other punitive action. It's just not consistent. Since they seem to be so big on stories and outside drama these days, you think they'd look into that.

[3dman27]

You know, watching SD tonight, I came to the conclusion that Gregory Helms has like the coolest theme music. And yeah Sabretooth, I noticed that bit of Spidey-sense during his theme.
he did as the hurricane
thats for sure

[Sarge 2.0]

he did as the hurricane
thats for sureI dunno, I thought the Hurricane music was just as embarassing as his gimmick. Now his music is pretty badass.

[Colossal Spoons]

Either they have authority or they don't. When there's blatant cheating/oustide interference, they do nothing. Other times, they restart matches order re-matches or take other punitive action. It's just not consistent. Since they seem to be so big on stories and outside drama these days, you think they'd look into that.

We could have Shane and Stephanie as GMs again. Good old McMahon/Helmsley era.

[Sarge 2.0]

Shane I actually wouldn't mind. Heh, since they're struggling with finding something for Kennedy to do while on injury, why not make him Raw's GM? :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Cuz SD needs him. I love Ken and SD is really hurtin in the talent dept.

[Sarge 2.0]

They haven't been doing much, and his lack of appearence seems to have killed some of his heat...I think they need to make his role major pretty fast or else he might be forgotten.

[PyroChamber]

True. I'm just consistently impressed. That, and I'm waiting for her to screw it up and fall.You know, that would actually be pretty funny if Melina fell while doing her ring entrance.

Also, I miss Eddie Guerrero as much as everyone, but am I the only one who thinks that now is not the right time to put him in the WWE Hall Of Fame?

[Sabretooth]

Speaking of GM's. WHatever happened to Raw finding a GM? I remember Vince calling Dusty Rhodes GM or something and that was it....

[Twitch]

I think they kind of forgot about that...

Shane would be so cool

[LastSunrise1981]

Speaking of GM's. WHatever happened to Raw finding a GM? I remember Vince calling Dusty Rhodes GM or something and that was it....

I think they forgot about it. Unless they're thinking that we're so stupid that we'll forget about it too. :rolleyes:

[Sabretooth]

I think they forgot about it. Unless they're thinking that we're so stupid that we'll forget about it too. :rolleyes:
Yeah,I guess they figured saying Eddie's in hell would've been waaay more over with the fans than Raw GM. :rolleyes: :(

[The Batman]

Vince decided he liked being on TV alot, so they;re holding it off until after wrestlemania

[Colossal Spoons]

Hm, what if Vince were to be the new GM?

[Mister J]

We could have Shane and Stephanie as GMs again. Good old McMahon/Helmsley era.


Aahhh, the days of the Fac-Gime.

I actually thought Shane would have been brought back into the fold by now. Steph too, especially after that whole thing with Austin stunning everybody. She hopped all up the announce table saying "The ***** Is Back!). Looked pretty good too. Of course, she's busy now carrying the future 15-time World Champion, so Shane would be a more likely bet.

[LastSunrise1981]

Hm, what if Vince were to be the new GM?

I think we see enough of him as it is. I'd mark out in a hardcore fashion if it was Bret Hart though.

But that is an unlikely scenario.

[Eric Draven]

Aahhh, the days of the Fac-Gime.

I actually thought Shane would have been brought back into the fold by now. Steph too, especially after that whole thing with Austin stunning everybody. She hopped all up the announce table saying "The ***** Is Back!). Looked pretty good too. Of course, she's busy now carrying the future 15-time World Champion, so Shane would be a more likely bet.

Yeah, but then Austin bolted and it seemed like the McMahons were aimless for a while. One week they were heels, then the very next week they were faces, then a little while later, they're heels again......

[DOG LIPS]

What happened with Austin anyway?

[Sarge 2.0]

What happened with Austin anyway?He ducked out of the angle when he realised that J.R. would not be rehired, and that he would have to job to Coach, Vader, and Goldust.

[DOG LIPS]

He ducked out of the angle when he realised that J.R. would not be rehired, and that he would have to job to Coach, Vader, and Goldust.
So what is he doing now, making WWE movies, or did he just leave it all?

[Mister J]

So what is he doing now, making WWE movies, or did he just leave it all?

He did have a movie, The Condemned, in the works but I don't know the status of it. It's probably somewhere in between See No Evil (Kane) and The Marine (Cena).

[Colossal Spoons]

Of course, she's busy now carrying the future 15-time World Champion.

You're so right.

[Sarge 2.0]

So what is he doing now, making WWE movies, or did he just leave it all?He's under the WWE Legends contract, and still appears on WWE.com as a part of the Raw roster. So are the Rock, Foley, Hogan etc.

They don't have to be performing on a regular capacity, but WWE can still use them for special performances when needed. So SC isn't gone for good.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, he'll be back in a couple of months to stun random people and drink beers again ;)

[Prognosticator]

You're so right.

WTF? Are you kidding me? I used to hate Triple H for about everything he was worth, but i recognized his tremendous inring/outring potential... NOW, after he came back, even though he obliderated one of my all-time idols Ric Flair, I find myself loving him more each week!!!!!

The biggest part is that no one can monologue anymore the way he does! Triple H is classic with a mic in his hand. I find myself cheering everytime he shows up on camera, and I'm crossing my fingers for him to become champ again. Face it, NO ONE looks better in a custom suit than Triple H.

And i definitely enjoy Cena and everything he offers, but Triple H is now a classic character and with so many old school veterans out of the game, he's as good as it gets right now in wrestling!

[Colossal Spoons]

I was commenting about Stephanie carrying HHH Jr. Not sure what you're talking about though. :confused:

[Mister J]

Yeah. That was kind of random. But, umm...err...the man likes Triple H. ...OK.

[The Batman]

Anyone else think that with the Saturday Main Event returning, "TNA Impact" will basically become the mad tv to WWE's SNL?

[Hunter Rider]

Personally i think Batista is the sharpest suit wearer in the buissness,the guy looks Gold everytime i see him,case in point at NWO the other night with his black pinstripe suit

[Colossal Spoons]

Those words warm my heart. Booker T wears a good suit too.

[Mister J]

Dirty 'Tista is a pretty snazzy dresser. That's alot of money; he's got to buy custom.

Speaking of his appearance at NWO, can we expect him to challenge the champ at the SD after Mania?

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope so. I think he's gonna return with a lot of the momentum he had before he went out.

[Hunter Rider]

Those words warm my heart. Booker T wears a good suit too.

LOLhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

to answer the question Batista probably won't return directly after Mania,instead they will build his return and he won't challenge for the title on an SD it will be on a PPV as it will be a draw

[Prognosticator]

I absolutely agree about Batista! Once he became champ he looked the part and fits the suit perfectly...but who led him down that path? Yeah, the game. Anyhow, I know you were referring to little H, I just felt like I wanted to jump in by ranting about how impressed I've been by Triple H ever since RAW jumped back over to USA!

[Mister J]

What do you guys think about throwing Rey into the ME at Mania?

[Hunter Rider]

I absolutely agree about Batista! Once he became champ he looked the part and fits the suit perfectly...but who led him down that path? Yeah, the game. !

But who led him down that path ? The Naitchhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Hunter Rider]

What do you guys think about throwing Rey into the ME at Mania?

My opinion is-great desicion now at least one of the title matches will be good

[Mister J]

I was skeptical at first. After thinking about though, it does sound good (especially if Angle goes over next week like I think). I'm interested in seeing how they build it, particularly the Rey-Randy dynamic. That card needs to shape up though. Something else has got to come about.

[Prognosticator]

But who led him down that path ? The Naitchhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

True Dat! You speak the truth, WHOOOO! But who carried the torch when the NAA-CHABOY jumped into the tanning bed one too many times???...you do speak truth though.

[Prognosticator]

My opinion is-great desicion now at least one of the title matches will be good

I suppose you're referring to the Triple H/Cena match as the good one...Rey's about as tall as RAW's cable ratings last week, 4.9

[Mister J]

You think Triple H pounding Cena is gonna be better than a Angle/Orton/Mysterio Triple Threat?

Rey's one of the best workers in the game.

[Hunter Rider]

I suppose you're referring to the Triple H/Cena match as the good one...Rey's about as tall as RAW's cable ratings last week, 4.9

I don't care about his height,he is a great worker,the Cena/HHH match doesn't interest me at all

[Prognosticator]

Randy Orton is second rate to me, always has been. He's a Nick Lachey look-alike who didn't stand toe-to-toe w/Triple H, Batista, and Flair when they had Evolution going...and i just think Rey gets too much love!! But i'm sure it'll be entertaining at least.

[Prognosticator]

I don't care about his height,he is a great worker,the Cena/HHH match doesn't interest me at all

No problem, just a difference in taste. That's why they've got two rosters on two shows.

[Mister J]

Prog, what do you think of Cena?

[Hunter Rider]

Randy Orton is second rate to me, always has been. He's a Nick Lachey look-alike who didn't stand toe-to-toe w/Triple H, Batista, and Flair when they had Evolution going...and i just think Rey gets too much love!! But i'm sure it'll be entertaining at least.

Orton knows how to play his role,he is the ultimate cocky arrogant heel with bags of talent,when he was in Evolution his IC matches were awesome,Batista on the other hand is very lucky to be where he is on such limited ability

[Hunter Rider]

No problem, just a difference in taste. That's why they've got two rosters on two shows.

The problem i see with the match isn't nessicarly how it will go in the ring but the fact it is booked all wrong,Cena is dying as a face and putting him in with HHH in a city like Chicago is suicide booking,they should have made a 4-way to protect Cena from the heat

[Mister J]

The problem i see with the match isn't nessicarly how it will go in the ring but the fact it is booked all wrong,Cena is dying as a face and putting him in with HHH in a city like Chicago is suicide booking,they should have made a 4-way to protect Cena from the heat

That was probably the best idea they could gone with. Cena is going to get booed relentlessly and they have to know that. I actually thought there might have been something left to his face run, but they turned right back to the same garbage that people are rebelling against now. That match is gonna be ugly and leave a worse taste in WWE's mouth then when they booked Steiner/Triple H.

[Hunter Rider]

That was probably the best idea they could gone with. Cena is going to get booed relentlessly and they have to know that. I actually thought there might have been something left to his face run, but they turned right back to the same garbage that people are rebelling against now. That match is gonna be ugly and leave a worse taste in WWE's mouth then when they booked Steiner/Triple H.

Yep,they may execute a decent match in the ring but it will be a train wreck when it comes to trying to tell the story as the crowd will be going against what the angle is supposed to be
The fact that this is the biggest show of the year and they still booked a guy that can only get cheers when wrestling Edge is very odd and seems to lean heavily towards HHH wanting to be face Cena one on one

[The Ghoul]

1. Teddy Long pulls off the best suit. That custom suede long coat att NWO was pimp

2.I am cool with Rey in the ME. Everyone seems to focus on how offensive the Eddie thing is. But I don't think anyone has noticed, it's not very good. If it was a fictional character whose death is mocked, it still wouldn't be that interesting.

Anyone else think that with the Saturday Main Event returning, "TNA Impact" will basically become the mad tv to WWE's SNL?

I think it's only a one time special, but I don't think the ratings be nearly anywhere Raw & SD!. If they do a point larger or more than the average iMPACT, it will be a harsh blow to Spike's supossed "optimism" with TNA.

[Prognosticator]

That was probably the best idea they could gone with. Cena is going to get booed relentlessly and they have to know that. I actually thought there might have been something left to his face run, but they turned right back to the same garbage that people are rebelling against now. That match is gonna be ugly and leave a worse taste in WWE's mouth then when they booked Steiner/Triple H.

Wow!! This is serious news to me. I may live in the Midwest but I didn't figure I was this far out of the loop?!?!? To be honest I was never a Cena fan in the beginning but I've grown to like as much as anyone today...Maybe b/c I jumped on his bandwagon late, I've failed to notice a demise in popularity?? Will it really be THAT bad, and what is the "garbage that people are rebelling against"? My friends all still dig him a lot.

[Prognosticator]

Yep,they may execute a decent match in the ring but it will be a train wreck when it comes to trying to tell the story as the crowd will be going against what the angle is supposed to be
The fact that this is the biggest show of the year and they still booked a guy that can only get cheers when wrestling Edge is very odd and seems to lean heavily towards HHH wanting to be face Cena one on one

Are you saying it could end up like the Rock/Hogan at WM? Not as "big" of course, but i mean the crowd swaying? I honestly thought i've been hearing more and more cheers for Triple H during his current rise from recovery. On RAW when he finally won the triple threat match, I could have sworn the crowd was on the fence/cheering for him. Do you see this happening at RM22?

[Hunter Rider]

Wow!! This is serious news to me. I may live in the Midwest but I didn't figure I was this far out of the loop?!?!? To be honest I was never a Cena fan in the beginning but I've grown to like as much as anyone today...Maybe b/c I jumped on his bandwagon late, I've failed to notice a demise in popularity?? Will it really be THAT bad, and what is the "garbage that people are rebelling against"? My friends all still dig him a lot.
Did you see NYR and the matches with Angle ? he was getting heat that a heel would be prowd of in those matches
Just curious how old are your friends ?

[Hunter Rider]

Are you saying it could end up like the Rock/Hogan at WM? Not as "big" of course, but i mean the crowd swaying? I honestly thought i've been hearing more and more cheers for Triple H during his current rise from recovery. On RAW when he finally won the triple threat match, I could have sworn the crowd was on the fence/cheering for him. Do you see this happening at RM22?

I think that the crowd reaction to HHH when Cena tried to bow up to him on RAW and the crowd backed HHH is what you will see at Mania only much louder as Chicago will be digging a guy like The Game so your spot on very much like Hogan/Rock

[Prognosticator]

Prog, what do you think of Cena?

I honestly had an untainted image of him until just now. That's interesting, but I couldn't get into his schtick when he ruled SD. Therefore, I watched it much less than RAW whenever he was constantly rapping and plugging this whole whigger image...But I've enjoyed his stint on RAW ever since Summerslam in 05'.

[Sabretooth]

Anybody else notice that ever since Cole and Tazz got pissed at management with JR's deal that their announce table gets broken like every week?

[Prognosticator]

No didn't see NYR but it looked pretty fantastic! Ya know, I've got a bunch of college-aged friends, but the guys I was thinking of are 19 and 22.

[Sabretooth]

I honestly had an untainted image of him until just now. That's interesting, but I couldn't get into his schtick when he ruled SD. Therefore, I watched it much less than RAW whenever he was constantly rapping and plugging this whole whigger image...But I've enjoyed his stint on RAW ever since Summerslam in 05'.
Really? Many people,myself included,liked when he rapped during his segments. It helped showcase his intensity and his mic work.

[Prognosticator]

Okay, I hate to go all "hick" again and be out of the loop, but what was the full story w/JR leaving? I just assumed it was b/c he really needed surgery/recovery time or an extended vacation or something?? Not so much I take it?

[Prognosticator]

Really? Many people,myself included,liked when he rapped during his segments. It helped showcase his intensity and his mic work.

What i'm saying is a few years ago I was annoyed by it, and it turned me off completely. But now whenever he comes out I've grown to appreciate it like you said, and i look forward to it...catch-22, he doesn't really do it anymore:O

[Hunter Rider]

No didn't see NYR but it looked pretty fantastic! Ya know, I've got a bunch of college-aged friends, but the guys I was thinking of are 19 and 22.

I see,i only asked because from the reports ive read Cena is popular with women and teens but the 18-30 demographic hate him in most arenas

He's got 2 main problems,1 is that he isnt a great worker,he bumps well but for a face his offense is weak
His biggest problem though is his gimmick,every match he is like Superman beating the odds,now that works if you have a ton of cred but he doesn't and a rap character is not a multi demographic character like Austin.Rock or HHH so he will always have trouble getting a good section of the crowd behind him

[Hunter Rider]

Okay, I hate to go all "hick" again and be out of the loop, but what was the full story w/JR leaving? I just assumed it was b/c he really needed surgery/recovery time or an extended vacation or something?? Not so much I take it?
JR did need the colon op but what left a bad taste was the way he was fired by the McMahon's in an on air segment where the humiliated him

[The Techno Bat]

JR did need the colon op but what left a bad taste was the way he was fired by the McMahon's in an on air segment where the humiliated him

I really can't stand the way Vince McMahon struts around, and the lack of respect he shows everybody, I really wish somebody would put Vince in his place, although that will never happen. I hope Marty doesn't join the Vince McMahon Kiss my A** Club on RAW...

[The Techno Bat]

What do you guys think about throwing Rey into the ME at Mania?


Best decision in a real long time, the WWE is atleast letting the fans get something they want for once instead of Vince's ego saying Bull***** with what the fans want, I will tell them that they should cheer, the steroid monsters that I keep producing... and screwing over the little guys like Rey Mysterio. I really hope he walks out with the world strap at WM

[The Ghoul]

Wow!! This is serious news to me. I may live in the Midwest but I didn't figure I was this far out of the loop?!?!? To be honest I was never a Cena fan in the beginning but I've grown to like as much as anyone today...Maybe b/c I jumped on his bandwagon late, I've failed to notice a demise in popularity?? Will it really be THAT bad, and what is the "garbage that people are rebelling against"? My friends all still dig him a lot.

Yeah pretty much. If you look to past post (like a couple hundred pages back) he was given a lot of respect when he was the top midcarder, but he still wasn't anything special. Once he won the WWE title, they "Deisel-ed" him out (turned a cool "bad-ass" heel & turn him into a superman who kissees the fan's ass) If you notice when they go to places like New Jersey, New York, Philidelphia, Miami(actually pretty 50/50), Chicago & all of Canada, he geets a lot of boos. That's because even though he was a deacent midcard guy, he is not ready to carry the weight of the business. He started wrestling in 2000, 5 years is not enough time. He's WWE's new failed prospect, but it's definetly not the first. He may be worthy one day, but now he is still not a very good wrestler. Look at Kevin Nash, as Deisel, his WWE title run was discredited by his suddeen change & lack of ability. & a few years later he became the most credible champion WCW had at one point

[Prognosticator]

I see,i only asked because from the reports ive read Cena is popular with women and teens but the 18-30 demographic hate him in most arenas

He's got 2 main problems,1 is that he isnt a great worker,he bumps well but for a face his offense is weak
His biggest problem though is his gimmick,every match he is like Superman beating the odds,now that works if you have a ton of cred but he doesn't and a rap character is not a multi demographic character like Austin.Rock or HHH so he will always have trouble getting a good section of the crowd behind him

That's genius, man, and totally accurate! The girls and young guys I know are the ones that like him the best, and I've always found myself disappointed in his lack of offensive diversity. Like, when he finally came up w/a submission manauver to beat Angle, the commentators went crazy to pump that up...but now he whips it out all the time like that's some sort of big deal! Come up w/some other stuff consistently! You're dead on about that, and I fall into the negative male 18-30 demo so I get it.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah pretty much. If you look to past post (like a couple hundred pages back) he was given a lot of respect when he was the top midcarder, but he still wasn't anything special. Once he won the WWE title, they "Deisel-ed" him out (turned a cool "bad-ass" heel & turn him into a superman who kissees the fan's ass) If you notice when they go to places like New Jersey, New York, Philidelphia, Miami(actually pretty 50/50), Chicago & all of Canada, he geets a lot of boos. That's because even though he was a deacent midcard guy, he is not ready to carry the weight of the business. He started wrestling in 2000, 5 years is not enough time. He's WWE's new failed prospect, but it's definetly not the first. He may be worthy one day, but now he is still not a very good wrestler. Look at Kevin Nash, as Deisel, his WWE title run was discredited by his suddeen change & lack of ability. & a few years later he became the most credible champion WCW had at one point

haha, yeah, I definitely see a lot of comparisons of Cena to Diesel during his WWF title reign. But at least with Diesel, they had the smarts to turn him as soon as they realized he was getting booed as the mega-babyface. So far, they don't seem to do anything like that for Cena :(

[Mister J]

I had hoped we saw the last of the Kiss My Ass Club when The Rock shoved McMahon's face square into Rikishi's big behind. I don't know how this will play out Monday, but with Vince calling Marty out and talking about his money troubles, I'm not really looking forward to this.

haha, yeah, I definitely see a lot of comparisons of Cena to Diesel during his WWF title reign. But at least with Diesel, they had the smarts to turn him as soon as they realized he was getting booed as the mega-babyface. So far, they don't seem to do anything like that for Cena

I think they're too worried about Cena's merchandising capacity to turn him. Otherwise, it seemed they would have done it by now. We'll see how that theory holds in these weeks leading up to WM. That little confrontation at the end of Raw did not go well for Cena. It's only going to get worse when he and Trips go to the inevitable in-ring promos and tag matches.

[Eric Draven]

I had hoped we saw the last of the Kiss My Ass Club when The Rock shoved McMahon's face square into Rikishi's big behind. I don't know how this will play out Monday, but with Vince calling Marty out and talking about his money troubles, I'm not really looking forward to this.

Of course, Marty isn't going to join the Kiss my Ass Club. It will seem like it at first, but once Shawn comes out, Marty will probably superkick Shawn just like how Shawn superkicked Marty and that jumpstarted his push.

[Colossal Spoons]

a rap character is not a multi demographic character like Austin.Rock or HHH so he will always have trouble getting a good section of the crowd behind him

I dunno; everybody from Jay-Z to the white kids in my cul de sac rap these days. They even use rap to sell Dannon yogurt; I kid you not lol.

[The Ghoul]

The touring Superstars of RAW were caught amid an escalating political crisis Friday, as the president of the Philippines locked down the country after what was declared a failed attempt to overthrow the leader from power.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo called for a state of emergency and the military went to high alert, fortifying the presidential palace and arresting demonstrators celebrating the 20th anniversary of the fall of former dictator Ferdinand Marcos.

WWE Champion John Cena, Triple H, Women’s Champion Trish Stratus and many other WWE Superstars were asked to stay in groups and when possible remain in their hotel rooms because of the chaos and potential for violence. Citizens were told that all rallies and protests were banned and would lead to more arrests. By late afternoon, thousands were in the streets in defiance of the government’s orders, according to multiple media reports.

Despite the danger, 15,000 determined WWE fans braved the streets and filled the Araneta Coliseum for a successful RAW live event in Manila. There were no reports of violence at the venue, and all WWE Superstars and personnel are safe and accounted for, WWE.com confirmed by phone.

RAW’s Superstars are in Manila, the capital of the Philippines, for two live events as part of WWE’s continuing expansion into foreign markets. The Superstars of SmackDown recently set attendance records in Mexico and last year were equally well-received in Europe.

The U.S. Embassy in Manila has issued a Warden Message to American citizens in the Philippines, advising them to take prudent steps to ensure their personal safety during this uncertain time.

I think this is the most interestling news story around. Even if WWE was not mentioned, how come no other news place is talking about a rebellion in the Phillippines?

[Mister J]

Of course, Marty isn't going to join the Kiss my Ass Club. It will seem like it at first, but once Shawn comes out, Marty will probably superkick Shawn just like how Shawn superkicked Marty and that jumpstarted his push.

Could we see a plate glass window and an impromptu Barber Shop? Hmmm.

It does smell like a set-up. When I wrote I wasn't looking forward to it, I should have been clear that I just don't like the angle with Shawn, not specifically this KMAC. For some reason, none of this is resonating with me. Seems like the same thing he did with Hogan a couple of years back. It was barely tolerable to me then. Now, it's more of a 'can we get this over already?'

[Eric Draven]

Could we see a plate glass window and an impromptu Barber Shop? Hmmm.

It does smell like a set-up. When I wrote I wasn't looking forward to it, I should have been clear that I just don't like the angle with Shawn, not specifically this KMAC. For some reason, none of this is resonating with me. Seems like the same thing he did with Hogan a couple of years back. It was barely tolerable to me then. Now, it's more of a 'can we get this over already?'

Yeah, I wasn't digging it at first, but the inclusion of Jannety made it much better. You could have Jannetty totally resenting Shawn because Shawn became a star while Jannetty became nothing. Then you could have Vince basically saying he made a mistake when he made Shawn a star instead of Jannetty and he's now going to rectify that. Plus, wouldn't it be great for Shawn's final opponent as a regular to be against his former tag team partner? :)

[The Ghoul]

Plus, wouldn't it be great for Shawn's final opponent as a regular to be against his former tag team partner? :)

better then having vince as his last.

[Prognosticator]

[quote=Eric Draven]haha, yeah, I definitely see a lot of comparisons of Cena to Diesel during his WWF title reign. But at least with Diesel, they had the smarts to turn him as soon as they realized he was getting booed as the mega-babyface. So far, they don't seem to do anything like that for Cena :([/quote

I felt the same way about Triple H when he was on top for so long...I couldn't wait for someone to beat him and take over. I didn't think he had the carisma to be the tentpole for the WWE. But, ironically now i want him back in the saddle...he's really won me over ever since he returned from rehab!! He's shown everyone what it's all about, both IN AND OUT of the ring, and he's brilliant as a performer whether he's winning OR when he's getting pummeled by someone like BigShow. He's been an excellent example for everyone to learn from....bless that man!

[Prognosticator]

is there a specific reason why Shawn's hanging it up as a regular? Even so, i thought it was interesting that shawn got to play out one of his final stories as a martyr to vince's devil...it allowed shawn to portray his real life and what it's like to try and live out a life of faith amongst strong persecution.

[The Ghoul]

is there a specific reason why Shawn's hanging it up as a regular? Even so, i thought it was interesting that shawn got to play out one of his final stories as a martyr to vince's devil...it allowed shawn to portray his real life and what it's like to try and live out a life of faith amongst strong persecution.

He's getting old. He can still pull out a good match, but hee has accomplished everything he can in the business, his spot is forever marked. If he left now, he cements his spot as one of the most respected. And having him come in for another great match on special occasions is the secret to keeping a legend on top forever.

[Mister J]

Plus, I imagine he wants to spend time with his wife and kids. Better to go out now while he can still walk. I'm happy he was able to do it for this long. I thought we saw the last of HBK at WM14.

[NDX]

I never thought Shawn would return to wrestling, so his run the last three years has been a great ride. I also figured he would retired by now back in 2002, but he's still going on strong for the most part. I'm glad I've been able to experience his whole WWE career, and if this is his last match as a regular, I hope he goes out with one of the best matches of his career.

Hopefully this will be a HBK v. Marty Jannetty or Shane McMahon match, the former prefered.

[Capt Throbberson]

Him vs. Jannetty would be a great way to end his career

[Eric Draven]

To think, back when Shawn first made his return to the ring against Triple H, it was said that he would only wrestle every major PPV(WM, Summerslam, Survivor Series, Royal Rumble). Then they said that he would wrestle every monthly PPV. Then all of a sudden, he became a regular performer again. I would say that we got lucky that he returned full-time after his career was almost over...

[da creole kid]

Marty Jannety won't join the "Kiss My Ass Club" he'll get his as beat by the leader of Spirit Squad in match for a one year contract.

He might win but only because Michaels will interfere.

[TheVileOne]

I'll believe HBK is retiring when he says it himself.

And to leave after facing Vince McMahon at Mania? Umm no. He has to leave over putting guys like RVD and Shelton Benjamin over. But that's not something HBK really fulfilled his promise on since his return. He's constantly been put over workers he shouldn't have.

[da creole kid]

HBK is nearing semi-retirement. I don't think he'll retire.

I wouldn't be surprised that they setting up a heal turn and he becomes Raw GM.

[ookami]

I really can't stand the way Vince McMahon struts around, and the lack of respect he shows everybody, I really wish somebody would put Vince in his place, although that will never happen. I hope Marty doesn't join the Vince McMahon Kiss my A** Club on RAW...

I hope Stone Cold comes back again and kicks his ass just for the fun of it like he used to. Don't know why he wants to get rid of a popular wrestler that still generates money for him, that's what I don't get. I mean Ric is still hangin' in there.

[da creole kid]

It is hard to make MORE money w/ Stone Cold if he keeps fighting with you at every turn.

[Mister J]

It's hard for Stone Cold to want to work when you have him scheduled to job to Coach.

[The Flash!]

So will Angle retain next week? As much as I want Taker to win, the odds are on Angle to win to face Mysterio and Orton at WM22.

[Mister J]

More than likely, Angle goes over. They did Orton/Taker last year and it might seem tired. Taker's style really doesn't lend itself to a 3-Way Dance either. Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm expecting the wrestling machine to walk out with the belt. I also expect Henry to play a role in it; something like "Nobody's gonna beat Angle but me."

[The Flash!]

Yep, thats why I said that Angle had the best odds. And you're right about the Taker/Orton thing, they'd just be repeating it all over again. Angle, Mysterio, Orton would make a great PPV IMO. As for where that leaves Taker, I'd like to see his feud with Henry continue. After he lifted him I was in total awe, especially with the age he's at now.

[Mister J]

I was thorougly impressed with Taker's finishers on Henry. However, I'm still a bit sour on Henry as a main eventer. It's probably because I've seen too many of his failed runs in the past. I'm just not really seeing where a feud with he and Taker could go. Unfortunately for me, I feel that's exactly where they are heading.

[NDX]

Taker should go over when it comes to his match with Henry, hopefully easily, dropping Henry to midcard status. I personally like Henry and like to see him in the ring, but main eventing is not where his level is at. This feud should drop him to midcard status.

I have a feeling WrestleMania will end with Orton pinning Rey, or vice versa, setting up a multi-PPV feud with Angle and the title holder where Angle claims he wasn't pinned for the title, so he never truly lost and wants it back. Pretty common storyline, but if it ends up with a Rey/Angle it will be a good outcome, and possibly Angle getting back some of his heel status.

[TheVileOne]

Angle will win next week.

The way its been going, Mysterio HAS to get retribution over Orton at Mania. Especially if HHH is going to beat Cena for the title. They can't end it with Orton winning.

Wrestlemania is looking pretty underwhelming this year. And now they are talking about doing Benoit vs. JBL...um...ugh. God forbid they give Benoit a quality opponent for Wrestlemania like in 2001.

[Mister J]

WrestleMania is truly truly underwhelming this year. I'm hoping something can be made out of a Benoit U.S. Title match and the proposed MITB. Other than the Triple Threat match, there's really not anything there. Hope it comes together.

[NDX]

I'm just glad I'm not paying for the program this year. The past years have at least had matches I wanted to see. So far there are only 2 confirmed matches, and the rest of the rumored matches are all pathetic.

I'm a huge Foley mark, but the man should stay out of the ring. It's just not fun to watch him anymore. Let Edge do something productive with his spot at WrestleMania. Henry v. Undertaker is a match I'd think to see on Smackdown!, not the biggest PPV of the year. Hopefully Hogan will be nowhere to be seen. Benoit and JBL. Sorry, as much as I like JBL, I think on a stage like this Benoit should wrestle someone closer to his level he has worked well with in the past (since Mr. Kennedy is currently not an option), such as Regal (or maybe I'm just a Regal mark, who knows anymore). The tag divisions... hell, I won't even go into those travesties.

Also, I haven't read **** on the Women's Division. What the hell is going on with that? I say have a Women's Battle Royal for Trish's title with all the divas from RAW and SmackDown! and just have an all out brawl. Wouldn't mind seeing Melina with gold post WM. Money in the Bank 2 is just a gimmick match that should not have made it's return. Benjamin and RVD should go at it for the IC title since RVD has already been punted from the WHT scene before he even got started, so give him at least some gold. Helms, hopefully, will hold the CW title until then and defend it in a one on one matchup with either London or Kendrik. Ahh, to be a dreamer.

I do want to see Cena v. HHH because I want to see if Cena can work a high profile match and actually put on a good match at this (less than) spectacular finally.

So far the only match I have confidence in is the triple threat with Orton, Mysterio and Angle, not just for the match, but for the potential matchs that can follow from the main event. With Cena v. HHH, all we can expect is more Cena v. HHH after WM is over. But with SD!'s ME, we get three different scenarios, all of which are good and can produce a positive series of matches.

Hmm, I think now that I got it all out, I feel much better.

Oh, yeah, I caught No Way Out on Thursday, and that Taker/Angle match was one of the best matches I've seen WWE put together in a while.

[Hunter Rider]

I'll believe HBK is retiring when he says it himself.

And to leave after facing Vince McMahon at Mania? Umm no. He has to leave over putting guys like RVD and Shelton Benjamin over. But that's not something HBK really fulfilled his promise on since his return. He's constantly been put over workers he shouldn't have.

Shawn has said in all his interviews prior to the Rumble that he will be going to a Hogan schedule post Mania

Personally I'm really looking forward to Benoit vs JBL,two heavy hitters with a stiff style,it takes me back to the NWA style

Yeah, I wasn't digging it at first, but the inclusion of Jannety made it much better. You could have Jannetty totally resenting Shawn because Shawn became a star while Jannetty became nothing. Then you could have Vince basically saying he made a mistake when he made Shawn a star instead of Jannetty and he's now going to rectify that. Plus, wouldn't it be great for Shawn's final opponent as a regular to be against his former tag team partner?

I agree completely,Shawn vs Marty with their hostory at Mania would be a great way to go out

[Hunter Rider]

That's genius, man, and totally accurate! The girls and young guys I know are the ones that like him the best, and I've always found myself disappointed in his lack of offensive diversity. Like, when he finally came up w/a submission manauver to beat Angle, the commentators went crazy to pump that up...but now he whips it out all the time like that's some sort of big deal! Come up w/some other stuff consistently! You're dead on about that, and I fall into the negative male 18-30 demo so I get it.
It's a shame in a way,he isnt a bad worker he just isn't a main evnet one yet and has been pushed to fast and with to accute a gimmick


I dunno; everybody from Jay-Z to the white kids in my cul de sac rap these days. They even use rap to sell Dannon yogurt; I kid you not lol.

lol.i just think that it's a more demo-specific character than the guys i mentioned who don't appeal to a select type of fan they just appeal universally

[Twitch]

I would use the booing of Cena at WM to my advantage. Have Cena win clean. Then grab the mic and say I still have the belt, but I'm not your kissing your damn asses anymore and I'm going to keep my belt at any cost. Blah, blah blah. The only way this works is to have the 3-way as the main event.

The WWE has a **** of a creative team so that won't ever happen :(

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExe0zkuYuw&search=punk%27d

Interesting development with the Spirit squad offering Punk to join them to get on RAW

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch.com

Prior to putting Rey Mysterio back in the WrestleMania 22 main-event, there was speculation that WWE might have Chavo Guerrero turn on Mysterio to set up a match at WrestleMania. That idea never got off the ground, pleasing a number of wrestlers who disapprove of the direction WWE took in using the late Eddie Guerrero's name in storylines.

The use of Eddie Guerrero in storylines has been toned down, although it is not known if any specific dialogue between wrestlers and WWE officials made that happen. It is known that Mysterio, Chavo Guerrero, Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko spoke with a WWE writer about the storyline's direction, but the concern never made its way to management.

In fact, as has been reported, Stephanie McMahon stood behind the angle when writers criticized its taste.

The McMahon defense of the storyline likely prevented more wrestlers?especially those without strong political stroke?from taking an open stand against the angle. Thus, very little heat falls on the wrestlers who were actually involved in the on-air storyline.

[Mister J]

It's a shame that you can't speak your mind (especially about an angle that can easily been seen as distasteful) w/o the very possibility of being shown the door.

[Prognosticator]

I was thorougly impressed with Taker's finishers on Henry. However, I'm still a bit sour on Henry as a main eventer. It's probably because I've seen too many of his failed runs in the past. I'm just not really seeing where a feud with he and Taker could go. Unfortunately for me, I feel that's exactly where they are heading.

Henry doesn't do one thing for me. He's an ice cube of a speaker for one. Two, he has failed so many times in the past, there's no credit to what he can do. Three, why would he stand a chance against a consumate professional like Angle. Four, most importantly and I'm not discriminating, he's just too obese! Like, it's no fun to watch an obese man try to carry uppercard clought anymore! This isn't the mid-late 90s and Henry isn't Vader!!

...And speaking of Vader, was that not the most embarrassing scene when he showed up about a month or two ago and just fell around, completely out of breath?!?! He couldn't even fit into his costume anymore, but he still had it on!! He looked horrible and it was a total freak show, he looked like a whale in a thong!!

[Eric Draven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExe0zkuYuw&search=punk%27d

Interesting development with the Spirit squad offering Punk to join them to get on RAW

Didn't that happen way back when the WWE actually did want Punk for the Spirit Squad? :confused:

Although it would've been a sight to see. Punk as a cheerleader? :o

[Hunter Rider]

Didn't that happen way back when the WWE actually did want Punk for the Spirit Squad? :confused:

Although it would've been a sight to see. Punk as a cheerleader? :o

No that is off the most recent showing,did you notice the part about rubbing of the tatoo's ? it's as if WWE are having the stuff said about Punk on the net written into the OVW angles,it would be a cool way to bring him in as the guy who won't take a ****ty gimmiock just to get On Raw

[Sarge 2.0]

Henry doesn't do one thing for me. He's an ice cube of a speaker for one. Two, he has failed so many times in the past, there's no credit to what he can do. Three, why would he stand a chance against a consumate professional like Angle. Four, most importantly and I'm not discriminating, he's just too obese! Like, it's no fun to watch an obese man try to carry uppercard clought anymore! This isn't the mid-late 90s and Henry isn't Vader!!

...And speaking of Vader, was that not the most embarrassing scene when he showed up about a month or two ago and just fell around, completely out of breath?!?! He couldn't even fit into his costume anymore, but he still had it on!! He looked horrible and it was a total freak show, he looked like a whale in a thong!!Kind of a shame that Vader showed up in that state. His stuff in Japan and WCW was pretty godly...he was truly one of the best big men ever. Then he makes his big return and....he's completely out of shape, and out of coordination. Damn shame.

[Eric Draven]

No that is off the most recent showing,did you notice the part about rubbing of the tatoo's ? it's as if WWE are having the stuff said about Punk on the net written into the OVW angles,it would be a cool way to bring him in as the guy who won't take a ****ty gimmiock just to get On Raw

That could happen. And who knows, maybe all that stuff about Punk is a bit orchestrated just to help him get over? :confused:

[Prognosticator]

Kind of a shame that Vader showed up in that state. His stuff in Japan and WCW was pretty godly...he was truly one of the best big men ever. Then he makes his big return and....he's completely out of shape, and out of coordination. Damn shame.

It was awful, that's for sure. But my best friend and I laughed our a$$es off when he lost his balance and fell over!!! Much props to his Japan/WCW reign, it was classic!

[NDX]

And speaking of Vader, was that not the most embarrassing scene when he showed up about a month or two ago and just fell around, completely out of breath?!?! He couldn't even fit into his costume anymore, but he still had it on!! He looked horrible and it was a total freak show, he looked like a whale in a thong!!

It all depends on where he is wrestling. WWE put him in the ring with someone younger and faster than him in a match too long for Vader to currently work. When I saw him live in November, he wrestled a short, slow match with a similarly large sized wrestler and he came off as entertaining. I can't say it was a good match, but he at least tried his best.

Hell, he at least moved better than Abdullah the Butcher did.

[NDX]

No that is off the most recent showing,did you notice the part about rubbing of the tatoo's ? it's as if WWE are having the stuff said about Punk on the net written into the OVW angles,it would be a cool way to bring him in as the guy who won't take a ****ty gimmiock just to get On Raw

He pretty much said the same at the Feb. 11 ROH show. "I can't rub these tattoos off. I've tried!" He then commences in licking his tongue and rubbing his forearm, then shrugs.

It's a real shame the man is not on Raw or Smackdown right now where a man of his talents is sorely needed. But than again, WWE would just **** him up and give him some ****ty stories and a new gimmick.

[Mister J]

Vader was tremendous back in his Japan. He was the same in WCW until Hogan killed all his heat. I had lost much of my vision of Vader as a heel until that Starrcade match with him and Flair. That was a damn good match, granted it was mostly Flair carrying him. It still showed me how credible Vader could still be.

I saw when he showed up awhile back and you're right Sarge, it was sad. Admittedly, I did laugh...alot. Afterwards, I thought about when I first saw him as Big Van Vader as opposed to what I had just saw. It was a very striking dissimilarity.

[CAGE]

Can't wait for RAW tomorrow! :up:

[ookami]

I would use the booing of Cena at WM to my advantage. Have Cena win clean. Then grab the mic and say I still have the belt, but I'm not your kissing your damn asses anymore and I'm going to keep my belt at any cost. Blah, blah blah. The only way this works is to have the 3-way as the main event.

The WWE has a **** of a creative team so that won't ever happen :(

You're right since Stephanie and HHH are the writers for everybody.

[The Flash!]

^ I knew Steph was, but I had no idea same went for Trips. Heh.

[ookami]

^ I knew Steph was, but I had no idea same went for Trips. Heh.

Yeahhhh wonder how he got that position. I wonder if their baby will have his nose. I know that it will come out and slap the doctor...aw the little McMahon.

[Mister J]

Well, he's not an official writer. Let's just say he holds considerable influence on storylines, particularly his own.

[The Flash!]

Yeahhhh wonder how he got that position. I wonder if their baby will have his nose. I know that it will come out and slap the doctor...aw the little McMahon.

Lmao. :up:

[NDX]

Christ. The "New Age Outlaws" just dropped out of the March 25th UXW show and was replaced with Vader. What next?

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yeahhhh wonder how he got that position. I wonder if their baby will have his nose. I know that it will come out and slap the doctor...aw the little McMahon.Don't hate on The Game because he was smart and married the bosses daughter and now is set for life.

[LastSunrise1981]

Don't hate on The Game because he was smart and married the bosses daughter and now is set for life.

Well who's to say they'll be married forever? ;)

No but seriously I hope they're happy and live happily forever. Triple H did acknowledge what has been said about him and he said everything goes through McMahon.

So if anything blame McMahon for allowing everything to happen. If what Triple H says is true, then Vince definitely deserves 100% of the blame since he's the boss and has allowed crap storylines to materialize.

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

WWE developmental diva Angel Williams was scheduled to debut on SmackDown as part of the JBL/Jillian Hall storyline, however she was recently injured while training.

The plan was to have Jillian Hall return without the mole and be pushed as now being beautiful, and somehow managing someone who is feuding with JBL. Angel would resume Jillian's previous role as JBL's assistant.

However, Vince liked Jillian's performance in the angle where The Boogeyman bit off her mole, and decided to keep her in the role.

They may still go back to the previously planned angle once Angel's blown out knee heals.

[3dman27]

Credit: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

WWE developmental diva Angel Williams was scheduled to debut on SmackDown as part of the JBL/Jillian Hall storyline, however she was recently injured while training.

The plan was to have Jillian Hall return without the mole and be pushed as now being beautiful, and somehow managing someone who is feuding with JBL. Angel would resume Jillian's previous role as JBL's assistant.

However, Vince liked Jillian's performance in the angle where The Boogeyman bit off her mole, and decided to keep her in the role.

They may still go back to the previously planned angle once Angel's blown out knee heals.
what happend to that mole buisness in real life i mean not the storyline was it surgically removed or was it fake the whole time?

[Sarge 2.0]

It was fake the whole time. I dunno how else Boogey could have gone and ate it, as that would be truly sick. But yeah, it was fake. :o

[3dman27]

since stacy lost last nights dancing with the stars finale will she get the razzberry about it in the storylines?

[The Undertaker]

Maven was in the crowd supporting Stacy, I thought that guy dropped off the face of the earth. I saw Torrie too.

[Sarge 2.0]

since stacy lost last nights dancing with the stars finale will she get the razzberry about it in the storylines?I would hope not. Her losing probably means she'll be back on the regular roster again as well.

[da creole kid]

I miss The Cabinet.

I'm hankering for a new JBL-led faction.

[Mysterio-23]

^^^ I miss the Cabinet too. Sucks Stacy lost. I have been readin that she might not come back to WWE.

[The FallenAngel]

Any of you guys have any recommendations on a DVD I should pick up? I'm planning on buying one from ROH.com, and they sell stuff from everywhere. I was thinking either one of the ROH show DVDs, an FIP show, or maybe Secrets of the Ring.

[TheVileOne]

Well FallenAngel, since you like Daniels, I recommend Night of Tribute. Show from November, features 2 great matches with Christopher Daniels. A triple threat match with Matt Sydal and AJ Styles. AND a world title match with Bryan Danielson that goes half an hour. Both are awesome matches.

I also recommend Final Battle 2005, probably the best ROH show of the year. Daniels has a 4 Corner Surival match on it with Samoa Joe, BJ Whitmer, and Jay Lethal that I rated 4 stars in my review. It also features 2 MOTYC's in Danielson vs. Marufuji for the ROH world title and Low Ki vs. Kenta for the GHC Jr. HW title. Low Ki/KENTA is being hailed as THE match of 2005 by many.

[The FallenAngel]

I already got Final Battle 2005. It was amazing. Night of Tribute sounds like a really good one though. I'll have to check it out, thanks.

[Sarge 2.0]

Does anyone know which ROH dvd's contain Raven's feud with Punk in 2003-ish?

[Hunter Rider]

The Wrestling-Observer Newsletter reports that Kurt Angle was not pleased with WWE's decision to make his WM22 title defense a three-way match.

Although Angle has no problem with Mysterio, he was looking forward to a classic one-on-one WrestleMania main-event and feels that the three way match greatly changes the dynamic.

While the first Samoa Joe-Christopher Daniels-AJ Styles match proved that a classic bout can be made of a triple threat match, the matches rely more on spots and create an inherent disadvantage for wrestlers looking to put on a memorable show

[Eric Draven]

So....what do you think will be the "big announcement" on Raw tonight? The draft lottery maybe? :confused:

[Capt Throbberson]

what happend to that mole buisness in real life i mean not the storyline was it surgically removed or was it fake the whole time?
Fake the whole time, It was pretty damn obvious, I'm suprised anyone thought it was real
So....what do you think will be the "big announcement" on Raw tonight? The draft lottery maybe? :confused:
New GM?

[Eric Draven]

Why would it involve the Smackdown wrestlers as well though?

[Capt Throbberson]

Good point

[Eric Draven]

I seriously think the only thing that could affect both rosters is the announcement of the draft lottery for the Raw after Wrestlemania.


Or maybe the on-air announcement of the next ECW PPV? :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

Are we talking about the meeting today at the supershow ? b/c if we are it was about the new drug policy

[DOG LIPS]

Where did youse guys hear aboot a "huge announcement"?

[Eric Draven]

Are we talking about the meeting today at the supershow ? b/c if we are it was about the new drug policy

That's it? Poop :(

[The FallenAngel]

Does anyone know which ROH dvd's contain Raven's feud with Punk in 2003-ish?I'm pretty sure it started at Death Before Dishonor with their Dog Collar match. It goes on from there.

[Hunter Rider]

Does anyone know which ROH dvd's contain Raven's feud with Punk in 2003-ish?

Death Before Dishonor,Beating The Odds,The Conclusion

[Hunter Rider]

Great opening segment with Edge and Foley,i was hoping he was gonna challenge him to a Barbed wire deathmatch but I'm sure the hardcore match will be great and the promos really sold the feud

Im such a Mark for Lita's hooters:O

[The Punisher]

Lita is gifted.

[NDX]

Death Before Dishonor,Beating The Odds,The Conclusion
That's good to know as well. I've only seen the Cage match from Punk's Best of vol. 2.

I'm with you hunter, I was hoping Foley would announce that it would be a deathmatch as well. Oh well, this should hopefully get bloody.

Well, that was a waste of a tag match. I just wish someone would just steal a win from this team already and take the belts from Show/Kane. Although seeing Show slam Viscera. And did anyone else catch some "Let's Go Mable!" chants?

[Twitch]

Great opening segment with Edge and Foley,i was hoping he was gonna challenge him to a Barbed wire deathmatch but I'm sure the hardcore match will be great and the promos really sold the feud

Im such a Mark for Lita's hooters:O

I want to touch them so bad

[Hunter Rider]

I want to touch them so bad

It shows Edge has great resistance skills when cutting those promos with her so close within squeezing range:( :up:

[Hunter Rider]

That's good to know as well. I've only seen the Cage match from Punk's Best of vol. 2.

I'm with you hunter, I was hoping Foley would announce that it would be a deathmatch as well. Oh well, this should hopefully get bloody.

Well, that was a waste of a tag match. I just wish someone would just steal a win from this team already and take the belts from Show/Kane. Although seeing Show slam Viscera. And did anyone else catch some "Let's Go Mable!" chants?

The Show/Kane team would be more interesting if they were an unstoppable heel force as WWE could build a face tag team up to finally overcome the monsters like the Harts beating the unstoppable Demolition back in 1990 or Demolition overcoming Haku and Andre at WM6

[The FallenAngel]

RVD is awesomeness.

[Sabretooth]

I don't think I've ever seen Viscera picked up like that other than when Undertaker chokeslammed him. Big Show was pretty good during that match.

*prays Marty turns heel tonight* :(

[The Punisher]

That was a great match.

[Sabretooth]

RVD is awesomeness.

And yet he's so wasted by WWE. :(

[Sabretooth]

Jesus Christ is Trish hot.

[The FallenAngel]

Mickie and Trish need to have lesbian sex now.

[The FallenAngel]

And yet he's so wasted by WWE. :(So true...:( :(

[The Punisher]

Jesus Christ is Trish hot.

You kiddin? All the divas are hot.

[Sabretooth]

You kiddin? All the divas are hot.
True.

[The Punisher]

Mickie and Trish need to have lesbian sex now.

:up:

[Sabretooth]

Mickie and Trish need to have lesbian sex now.
My pants would implode. :(

[The Punisher]

True.

Heh, i saw you edit Mickie James is hot.

[The Punisher]

You see Mickie bowing? She wants it lol.

[NDX]

The Show/Kane team would be more interesting if they were an unstoppable heel force as WWE could build a face tag team up to finally overcome the monsters like the Harts beating the unstoppable Demolition back in 1990 or Demolition overcoming Haku and Andre at WM6

Problem is I don't see that happening any time soon.

[Sabretooth]

Heh, i saw you edit Mickie James is hot.
She's okay. Bit of a butterface.


Holy crap she stuffed her face in Trish's you know what.:eek:

[The FallenAngel]

I love Diva matches. That was so hot.

[Sabretooth]

No Victoria...:(

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, she's like one of the only ones that can really wrestle.

[The FallenAngel]

I hope to God Cena gets booed to hell during this interview.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, she's like one of the only ones that can really wrestle.
Her and Lita. Funny how the few,good female wrestlers don't wrestle.

[Sabretooth]

I hope to God Cena gets booed to hell during this interview.
He will.

[Sabretooth]

Hahahaha. You hear that Cena? It only gets worse for you at Wrestlemania,buddy!


And Triple H is getting cheered.

[The FallenAngel]

That's so awesome. They cheer his name!

[DOG LIPS]

Cena: "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."

[Sabretooth]

Triple H is finally saying what I've been saying for years!!!!

[Hunter Rider]

Any "Cenqa Sucks" chants ?

[DOG LIPS]

Any "Cena Sucks" chants ?

There is in my head. :(

[CAGE]

Cena is getting owned. :eek: :up:

[Sabretooth]

Any "Cenqa Sucks" chants ?
No but they're chanting Triple H a hell of alot.

[DOG LIPS]

It's a mixed crowd, 50/50.

[DOG LIPS]

"And Doink."

[The FallenAngel]

I did actually hear "Cena Sucks" chants.

[NDX]

I want that poster of the (I think) Jasper John's painting behind McMahon's head.

[NDX]

Well, looks like I can miss SNME now.

[Sabretooth]

So can we say Cena got owned a few minutes ago?

[The FallenAngel]

Hell yeah.

[Go Web Go!]

Interesting that Vince announced Cena/Triple H vs. Mysterio, Orton and the "World Heavyweight champion" instead of saying Kurt Angle. Maybe it's possible that The Undertaker beats Angle tonight at the SD! tapings? Hmm..

[Sabretooth]

Oh god. I don't want to see Randy vs. Taker again.:(

[Donnie Darko]

that was a noble effort by King, though, saying that Cena was waiting for "the boos for Coach to subside"

[Capt Throbberson]

So can we say Cena got owned a few minutes ago?
Definitly

And I definitly heard "Cena sucks" chants

[Go Web Go!]

I see Cena slipping faaar down the card after WM. I hope they turn them heel after that and then he can work his way back up with a new gimmick preferably.

[NDX]

In case people want to check them out:

**SPOILERS** WWE SmackDown! Taping Results

Thanks to Ryan & Richard Gray of WrestlingNewsWorld for calling in the following results so us tonight.

The arena is said to be nearly sold out for this supershow. Only a few seats remain in Washington, DC at the MCI center.

SmackDown! opens with Booker T vs. Tatanka. Tatanka goes up top but Booker T counters and hits the axe kick. The Boogeyman comes in from the crowd (behind the announcers booth) and distracts Booker T. Tatanka gets the rollup for the pin.

Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker in a title rematch is announced as the main event of SmackDown!.

A WrestleMania 22 promo is shown promoting the three way main event of Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kurt Angle for the title.

Randy Orton comes out to new music to face Super Crazy. Richard said it was more than he expected with Super Crazy hitting some good high spots. Orton gets the win with an RKO after a decent match that was given some time.

Matt Hardy & A Mystery Partner vs. MNM is announced for later tonight.

JBL vs. Chris Benoit at WrestleMania 22 promo is shown.

MNM defeated Matt Hardy & Animal, who was Matt's mystery opponent. MNM dominated most of the match. I'm not sure how this ended, but after the match, Hardy shoved Animal and the two brawled. Animal worked over Hardy's knee and left the ring only to return to do the same thing. Basically a big Animal heel turn.

Promos are shown for the Hall of Fame ceremony with Eddie Guerrero and Bret Hart.

Fit Finley vs. Bobby Lashley is next. Finlay was DQed for throwing four chairs into the ring and trying to use them. The two brawled after the match and a slue of referees came out to split the two apart. The two brawl all the way up the ramp way to the back. Crowd loves Lashley.

They show the parking lot of the MCI Center like they normally do each week from arena to arena.

Footage of Jillian getting her top ripped off by Krystal last week is shown. There will be a match between these two next week on SmackDown!

William Regal and Paul Burchill are shown talking backstage and puts him down for being a pirate. Burchill will have his first match next week.

Kurt Angle is out to loud "You Suck" chants. The Undertaker soon follows. There has been absolutely no in-ring mic work this week at all. It's been all wrestling and this is our main event. They may edit in some backstage segments later on due to it being a super-show.

Kurt Angle controls the early part of the match. When he goes to the top, it is countered by Taker who gains control. Taker hits a big boot to Angle which knocks him to the outside. Taker continues the beat down with a closthline on the outside followed by a huge leg drop. Back in the ring, Taker goes for a pin and gets a long two count. The crowd gets behind 'Taker. Angle counters with an arm drag. The two get back to their feet and Angle connects with a suplex. 'You Suck' chants from the crowd. Taker tries to counter and misses a big boot to the face. Angle hits another suplex and then goes for a sleeper. This match is going back and forth with Taker hitting the snake eyes on Angle. Taker misses a big boot and Angle hits with a German n suplex. After a botched chokeslam by Taker near the end of the match, Angle applies the ankle lock and Taker reverses that back into a chokeslam. Undertaker hits a tombstomb on Angle and then Mark Henry runs out with Davari and then Henry beats Undertaker on the outside. Henry slammed Undertaker through the announce table and talks smack and I believe this is where the show will end. Angle is on his way to the back.

[Sabretooth]

I realize Eddie is the main reason Chavo is even showing up on Raw,but I think it's sad they'll never allow Chavo to get past being Eddie's nephew or being in Eddie's shadow.:(

[Hunter Rider]

Angle/Taker was a no contest after Henry interfered

[Capt Throbberson]

Damn, Chavo lost. Looks like MitBII is going to be exactly like MitB1 only with Carlito instead of Edge

[Sabretooth]

I'd prefer they use stars from both shows instead of just Raw. I'd rather Benoit and JBL be in there than have their own match.

[NDX]

- RF Video conducted an emotional one on one shoot interview with Tammy Sytch on Friday. In this interview, she'll go into detail in regards to the last week of Chris Candido's life and what lead to his untimely passing. In the same interview, Tammy confesses that she dated Shawn Michaels for nine months back in 1996. She'll also talk about going on a romantic one week vacation with Shawn Michaels to Jamaica and how the two worked everyone, including Chris Candido. And for the first time ever, she'll discuss her sexual relationships with other men besides Chris Candido. (source: rfvideo.com)

[The FallenAngel]

In case people want to check them out:

**SPOILERS** WWE SmackDown! Taping Results

Thanks to Ryan & Richard Gray of WrestlingNewsWorld for calling in the following results so us tonight.

The arena is said to be nearly sold out for this supershow. Only a few seats remain in Washington, DC at the MCI center.

SmackDown! opens with Booker T vs. Tatanka. Tatanka goes up top but Booker T counters and hits the axe kick. The Boogeyman comes in from the crowd (behind the announcers booth) and distracts Booker T. Tatanka gets the rollup for the pin.

Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker in a title rematch is announced as the main event of SmackDown!.

A WrestleMania 22 promo is shown promoting the three way main event of Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kurt Angle for the title.

Randy Orton comes out to new music to face Super Crazy. Richard said it was more than he expected with Super Crazy hitting some good high spots. Orton gets the win with an RKO after a decent match that was given some time.

Matt Hardy & A Mystery Partner vs. MNM is announced for later tonight.

JBL vs. Chris Benoit at WrestleMania 22 promo is shown.

MNM defeated Matt Hardy & Animal, who was Matt's mystery opponent. MNM dominated most of the match. I'm not sure how this ended, but after the match, Hardy shoved Animal and the two brawled. Animal worked over Hardy's knee and left the ring only to return to do the same thing. Basically a big Animal heel turn.

Promos are shown for the Hall of Fame ceremony with Eddie Guerrero and Bret Hart.

Fit Finley vs. Bobby Lashley is next. Finlay was DQed for throwing four chairs into the ring and trying to use them. The two brawled after the match and a slue of referees came out to split the two apart. The two brawl all the way up the ramp way to the back. Crowd loves Lashley.

They show the parking lot of the MCI Center like they normally do each week from arena to arena.

Footage of Jillian getting her top ripped off by Krystal last week is shown. There will be a match between these two next week on SmackDown!

William Regal and Paul Burchill are shown talking backstage and puts him down for being a pirate. Burchill will have his first match next week.

Kurt Angle is out to loud "You Suck" chants. The Undertaker soon follows. There has been absolutely no in-ring mic work this week at all. It's been all wrestling and this is our main event. They may edit in some backstage segments later on due to it being a super-show.

Kurt Angle controls the early part of the match. When he goes to the top, it is countered by Taker who gains control. Taker hits a big boot to Angle which knocks him to the outside. Taker continues the beat down with a closthline on the outside followed by a huge leg drop. Back in the ring, Taker goes for a pin and gets a long two count. The crowd gets behind 'Taker. Angle counters with an arm drag. The two get back to their feet and Angle connects with a suplex. 'You Suck' chants from the crowd. Taker tries to counter and misses a big boot to the face. Angle hits another suplex and then goes for a sleeper. This match is going back and forth with Taker hitting the snake eyes on Angle. Taker misses a big boot and Angle hits with a German n suplex. After a botched chokeslam by Taker near the end of the match, Angle applies the ankle lock and Taker reverses that back into a chokeslam. Undertaker hits a tombstomb on Angle and then Mark Henry runs out with Davari and then Henry beats Undertaker on the outside. Henry slammed Undertaker through the announce table and talks smack and I believe this is where the show will end. Angle is on his way to the back. Sounds ok, I guess. The ME and the ending don't sound too good, though. Thanks for the spoilers.

[Go Web Go!]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NOOOOOOOO! Why the HELL do they have to shove Mark Henry's fat ass in our faces when NO ONE FREAKIN' CARES to see him in the WWE let alone wrestling one of their bigger draws in the biggest PPV of the year. Jesus Tapdancin' Christ!

[Sabretooth]

I figured Henry would interfere. Yet another reason not to look forward to Wrestlemania.

[Go Web Go!]

Mean Gene's a good choice for Hall of Famer #3. Any idea on how many there will actually be?

[Sabretooth]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NOOOOOOOO! Why the HELL do they have to shove Mark Henry's fat ass in our faces when NO ONE FREAKIN' CARES to see him in the WWE let alone wrestling one of their bigger draws in the biggest PPV of the year. Jesus Tapdancin' Christ!
I would've much preferred Angle vs. Undertaker at Wrestlemania,but of course,we need to have Mark Henry for whatever reason.

[Sabretooth]

I would've liked to have seen Owen Hart be inducted along with Bret.:(

[DOG LIPS]

I knew Hulk would get involved somehow. :(

[Go Web Go!]

I would've liked to have seen Owen Hart be inducted along with Bret.:(

Would've been cool, but they can enshrine Owen in a few years or so along with Stu Hart or British Bulldog and have Bret induct them.

[Hunter Rider]

I knew Hulk would get involved somehow. :(

What ? how ?:eek: :(

[CAGE]

In case people want to check them out:

**SPOILERS** WWE SmackDown! Taping Results

Thanks to Ryan & Richard Gray of WrestlingNewsWorld for calling in the following results so us tonight.

The arena is said to be nearly sold out for this supershow. Only a few seats remain in Washington, DC at the MCI center.

SmackDown! opens with Booker T vs. Tatanka. Tatanka goes up top but Booker T counters and hits the axe kick. The Boogeyman comes in from the crowd (behind the announcers booth) and distracts Booker T. Tatanka gets the rollup for the pin.

Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker in a title rematch is announced as the main event of SmackDown!.

A WrestleMania 22 promo is shown promoting the three way main event of Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kurt Angle for the title.

Randy Orton comes out to new music to face Super Crazy. Richard said it was more than he expected with Super Crazy hitting some good high spots. Orton gets the win with an RKO after a decent match that was given some time.

Matt Hardy & A Mystery Partner vs. MNM is announced for later tonight.

JBL vs. Chris Benoit at WrestleMania 22 promo is shown.

MNM defeated Matt Hardy & Animal, who was Matt's mystery opponent. MNM dominated most of the match. I'm not sure how this ended, but after the match, Hardy shoved Animal and the two brawled. Animal worked over Hardy's knee and left the ring only to return to do the same thing. Basically a big Animal heel turn.

Promos are shown for the Hall of Fame ceremony with Eddie Guerrero and Bret Hart.

Fit Finley vs. Bobby Lashley is next. Finlay was DQed for throwing four chairs into the ring and trying to use them. The two brawled after the match and a slue of referees came out to split the two apart. The two brawl all the way up the ramp way to the back. Crowd loves Lashley.

They show the parking lot of the MCI Center like they normally do each week from arena to arena.

Footage of Jillian getting her top ripped off by Krystal last week is shown. There will be a match between these two next week on SmackDown!

William Regal and Paul Burchill are shown talking backstage and puts him down for being a pirate. Burchill will have his first match next week.

Kurt Angle is out to loud "You Suck" chants. The Undertaker soon follows. There has been absolutely no in-ring mic work this week at all. It's been all wrestling and this is our main event. They may edit in some backstage segments later on due to it being a super-show.

Kurt Angle controls the early part of the match. When he goes to the top, it is countered by Taker who gains control. Taker hits a big boot to Angle which knocks him to the outside. Taker continues the beat down with a closthline on the outside followed by a huge leg drop. Back in the ring, Taker goes for a pin and gets a long two count. The crowd gets behind 'Taker. Angle counters with an arm drag. The two get back to their feet and Angle connects with a suplex. 'You Suck' chants from the crowd. Taker tries to counter and misses a big boot to the face. Angle hits another suplex and then goes for a sleeper. This match is going back and forth with Taker hitting the snake eyes on Angle. Taker misses a big boot and Angle hits with a German n suplex. After a botched chokeslam by Taker near the end of the match, Angle applies the ankle lock and Taker reverses that back into a chokeslam. Undertaker hits a tombstomb on Angle and then Mark Henry runs out with Davari and then Henry beats Undertaker on the outside. Henry slammed Undertaker through the announce table and talks smack and I believe this is where the show will end. Angle is on his way to the back.

Wow, just wow. :eek:

[LastSunrise1981]

Did anyone else hear Cena get booed? Damn that was pure gold. Although knowing Vince he'll continue shove Cena down our throats and continue to make him Superman.

Hey Triple H, way to show Kurt Angle, Jericho, and Edge how to be effectives heels against Cena. :) :up:

[DOG LIPS]

What ? how ?:eek: :(
You're not watchin it? :(

[CAGE]

Thanks for the spoilers NDX. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

Gene is a pretty cool choice. Just don't like who's inducting him...

[Sabretooth]

I knew Hulk would get involved somehow. :(
What'cha gonna do brother??? What'cha gonna do,when Hulkamania whores itself out in Chicago on April 2??????







Yes,yes,I know,the HOF thing is on April 1,but April 2 rhymes with do. :mad:

[NDX]

Oh for ****s sake enough about Henry's weight. The man is far from fat. His body weight suggests a more muscular frame that a fat one. Trust me, I know what a fat person looks like and Henry is not ****ing fat.

[Hunter Rider]

You're not watchin it? :(
no,is he gonna be wrestling ?:(

[Capt Throbberson]

What ? how ?:eek: :(
He's inducting Mean Gene

[DOG LIPS]

no,is he gonna be wrestling ?:(
He will be the intro for Mean Gene. :( ..What Capt said. ^

[NDX]

At least Hogan's not wrestling (a match that we know of).

[Hunter Rider]

thanks guys,at least he isnt wrestling

hey did HHH say Cena was a crap wrestler and that everyone hated him and Cena agreed ?:confused: