Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks to PWInsider.com:



SMACKDOWN SPOILERS

Mark Henry comes down with Daivari and said he was overlooked. Batista overlooked him and he hurt him so bad he had to give up the title. Then Angle overlooked him, Teddy Long overlooked him and Undertaker overlooked him for a title shot. He called Angle out. Angle told Henry that he was a wrestling machine and hit the ring. They brawled. Randy Orton ran down and jumped Angle and they double-teamed him time until Rey Mysterio made the save. Rey ended up getting smashed by Henry. Theodore Long came out and made the main event match up: Henry and Orton vs. Mysterio and Angle.

Match 1
Money in the Bank Qualifier
Finlay vs. Lashley

This one didn't even make it to the ring. Finlay pounded Lashley with the shillelagh and they brawled all the way back stage.

Next out was JBL. He thanked us for all of our get -well cards. He then talked about how Stone Cold Steve Austin left his name out when discussing the greatest Texan wrestlers of all time in his interview with WWE.com. He challenged Stone Cold to a beer-drinking contest at SNME.

Match 2
William Regal vs. Pirate Paul Burchill

Burchill swung out on a big rope. His entrance video is kind of funny. This was the sleeper of the night. The crowd didn't know who to cheer for. Burchill won with the exploder suplex.

Winner: Pirate Paul

Booker T came out with Sharmell, he had a bag of complaint letters about the Boogeyman, and this was some funny stuff. He mentioned Worms Digest and some people of color's
association. Theodore Long told him he could take up all his complaints with the Boogeyman at SNME. Just then, red smoke came out of the bag and the Boogeyman came out. Booker and Sharmell took off through the crowd. Boogeyman dumped out the bag of letters but it was full of worms, which he proceeded to eat.

Backstage we see Gregory Helms sporting an Owen Wilson like nose job. He tells Long his nose was broken during the overseas tour. Theodore says he feels bad and for making Helms defend the Cruiserweight title every week, tonight he will get a break . . . from defending the title, because tonight he will face Chris Benoit!

Match 3
Jillian Hall vs. Kristal

This was a "Diva's Undressed" match. Jillian had an awkward lump near the genital area.

Winner: Kristal

Match 4
Gregory Helms vs. Chris Benoit

This match was fun, lots of chain wrestling and rest holds. Benoit hit a nice German. Helms hit the Eye of the Hurricane. Benoit locked in the sharpshooter but Helms made it to the ropes. Helms tried to leave but Jamie Noble, Paul London, Brian Kendrick and Kid Kash threw him back in the ring. Helms went for a Shining Wizard but Benoit ducked and nailed a huge released German suplex then a top rope headbutt, and then applied the crossface right on Helms broken nose. Helms tapped right away.

Winner: Chris Benoit

They showed an Animal promo on the screen where he said he was the Road Warrior, not Hawk or Heidenreich. He'll have a match with Hardy next week.

Then they showed Lashley and Finlay battle outside. Lashley flipped a car over and it nearly crushed Finlay.

Main Event
Rey Mysterio and Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton and Mark Henry

Great ovation, the crowd was hot for everyone. Angle and Orton in particular have great chemistry. This had another BS finish when Orton slammed Angle into the steps and Henry splashed the ref in the corner. For about 10 seconds, I swear Orton popped out. Daivari got a table and set it up and it broke. He got another table and put Rey on it and when he did the leg fell off. He got a third table and set Rey up for a splash but Angle made the save. Angle tried to suplex Henry off the top rope through the table but Henry pushed him off and then splashed Angle through the table!!!! Taker's music hit and he said he'd face Henry at WM22 in a CASKET MATCH.

End of Smackdown

[Sarge 2.0]

Sounds pretty decent. :up:

Except for the genital lump. :(

[3dman27]

thanks

[3dman27]

thanks

[The Punisher]

Thanks to PWInsider.com:



SMACKDOWN SPOILERS

Mark Henry comes down with Daivari and said he was overlooked. Batista overlooked him and he hurt him so bad he had to give up the title. Then Angle overlooked him, Teddy Long overlooked him and Undertaker overlooked him for a title shot. He called Angle out. Angle told Henry that he was a wrestling machine and hit the ring. They brawled. Randy Orton ran down and jumped Angle and they double-teamed him time until Rey Mysterio made the save. Rey ended up getting smashed by Henry. Theodore Long came out and made the main event match up: Henry and Orton vs. Mysterio and Angle.

Match 1
Money in the Bank Qualifier
Finlay vs. Lashley

This one didn't even make it to the ring. Finlay pounded Lashley with the shillelagh and they brawled all the way back stage.

Next out was JBL. He thanked us for all of our get -well cards. He then talked about how Stone Cold Steve Austin left his name out when discussing the greatest Texan wrestlers of all time in his interview with WWE.com. He challenged Stone Cold to a beer-drinking contest at SNME.

Match 2
William Regal vs. Pirate Paul Burchill

Burchill swung out on a big rope. His entrance video is kind of funny. This was the sleeper of the night. The crowd didn't know who to cheer for. Burchill won with the exploder suplex.

Winner: Pirate Paul

Booker T came out with Sharmell, he had a bag of complaint letters about the Boogeyman, and this was some funny stuff. He mentioned Worms Digest and some people of color's
association. Theodore Long told him he could take up all his complaints with the Boogeyman at SNME. Just then, red smoke came out of the bag and the Boogeyman came out. Booker and Sharmell took off through the crowd. Boogeyman dumped out the bag of letters but it was full of worms, which he proceeded to eat.

Backstage we see Gregory Helms sporting an Owen Wilson like nose job. He tells Long his nose was broken during the overseas tour. Theodore says he feels bad and for making Helms defend the Cruiserweight title every week, tonight he will get a break . . . from defending the title, because tonight he will face Chris Benoit!

Match 3
Jillian Hall vs. Kristal

This was a "Diva's Undressed" match. Jillian had an awkward lump near the genital area.

Winner: Kristal

Match 4
Gregory Helms vs. Chris Benoit

This match was fun, lots of chain wrestling and rest holds. Benoit hit a nice German. Helms hit the Eye of the Hurricane. Benoit locked in the sharpshooter but Helms made it to the ropes. Helms tried to leave but Jamie Noble, Paul London, Brian Kendrick and Kid Kash threw him back in the ring. Helms went for a Shining Wizard but Benoit ducked and nailed a huge released German suplex then a top rope headbutt, and then applied the crossface right on Helms broken nose. Helms tapped right away.

Winner: Chris Benoit

They showed an Animal promo on the screen where he said he was the Road Warrior, not Hawk or Heidenreich. He'll have a match with Hardy next week.

Then they showed Lashley and Finlay battle outside. Lashley flipped a car over and it nearly crushed Finlay.

Main Event
Rey Mysterio and Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton and Mark Henry

Great ovation, the crowd was hot for everyone. Angle and Orton in particular have great chemistry. This had another BS finish when Orton slammed Angle into the steps and Henry splashed the ref in the corner. For about 10 seconds, I swear Orton popped out. Daivari got a table and set it up and it broke. He got another table and put Rey on it and when he did the leg fell off. He got a third table and set Rey up for a splash but Angle made the save. Angle tried to suplex Henry off the top rope through the table but Henry pushed him off and then splashed Angle through the table!!!! Taker's music hit and he said he'd face Henry at WM22 in a CASKET MATCH.

End of Smackdown

Sounds great. Thanks hunter.

[The FallenAngel]

Genital lump? Hahaha. Wow. Anyways, I officially mark out for Pirate Paul. That's awesomeness. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

Booker T's cool. He should be on commentary every week. :o

[The Punisher]

Damn Jillian just had a bra slip. When crystal pulled off Jillian's shirt the bra straps came undone. She was covering them and o man it was awesome. Jillian is hot.

[The Punisher]

Genital lump? Hahaha. Wow. Anyways, I officially mark out for Pirate Paul. That's awesomeness. :up:

Burchill was great and the pirate gimmack seems to play out well. His finisher looks cool.

[punishermax]

****ing baseball. Thats all I have to say.

[Sabretooth]

Damn basketball game! :mad:

[Sabretooth]

****ing baseball. Thats all I have to say.
You too,huh?

[The FallenAngel]

Helms/Benoit was a really good match. SD! has been better than Raw so far this week. Not really a surprise, though. It's been like that for a while now.

[Eric Draven]

If RVD wins at ONS under ECW rules though....that would be the greatest thing ever. :o

And it would be much better than RVD winning it at WM because of what RVD said in the ONS PPV last year....:o

[Eric Draven]

Burchill was great and the pirate gimmack seems to play out well. His finisher looks cool.

Like I said yesterday: coolest entrancer ever.

Although I'm not really sure about him using the C4 as his finisher all the time....:confused:

[The Punisher]

Helms/Benoit was a really good match. SD! has been better than Raw so far this week. Not really a surprise, though. It's been like that for a while now.

Yeah it was a good match. And i agree SD! is way better than Raw. Raw to me and what they do especially with Vince handling things i want shot him with a semi automatic. That's how much i dislike Vince. Sorry fot that but's true. And with SD! i never get tired of it. It just keeps entertaining and right now it's awesome.

[Eric Draven]

I think everyone is basically tired of Vince and the McMahons at the moment. Seriously, I don't know why they're taking up half the time on Raw just to make Micheals, one of the greatest all-around wrestlers the WWE has had, look like a complete and utter fool. I don't think it's just pure coincidence that SD is considered the superior show by many and that there are no McMahons on the show :o

[The Punisher]

Like I said yesterday: coolest entrancer ever.

Although I'm not really sure about him using the C4 as his finisher all the time....:confused:

His entrance is cool and him using the C4 i don't know. Right now it seems ok.

[Eric Draven]

With Burchill, I hope they don't go the Boogeyman route. Boogeyman started out as such a promising character, but the past little bit with all the worms and supernatural crap has just been dumb :down

[The Punisher]

I think everyone is basically tired of Vince and the McMahons at the moment. Seriously, I don't know why they're taking up half the time on Raw just to make Micheals, one of the greatest all-around wrestlers the WWE has had, look like a complete and utter fool. I don't think it's just pure coincidence that SD is considered the superior show by many and that there are no McMahons on the show :o

I agree. :up:

[The Punisher]

With Burchill, I hope they don't go the Boogeyman route. Boogeyman started out as such a promising character, but the past little bit with all the worms and supernatural crap has just been dumb :down

Boogeyman defienetly started out great. But the whole eating worms thing it got ridiclous. I really hope he stops it but that's not likey. I'm sure they keep Burchill like a pirate. I think having him pull tricks would be great. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

With Burchill, I hope they don't go the Boogeyman route. Boogeyman started out as such a promising character, but the past little bit with all the worms and supernatural crap has just been dumb :downI don't think it will turn out that way. Unlike Boogeyman, Burchill can actually wrestle.

[The Punisher]

I don't think it will turn out that way. Unlike Boogeyman, Burchill can actually wrestle.

:up:

[NDX]

****ing baseball. Thats all I have to say.

****ing aye! Not even a good game, too one sided.

[DOG LIPS]

What time does wrasslin come on? 11:00?

[Assassin]

didnt come on in detroit..****en march madness

[The Ghoul]

I have a great idea. I think wwe should make a new stable called "The A-List" a hollywood gimmick with MNM & the Miz as "celebrities" Davari is their sleezey manager/agent & Mark Henry is their big black bodygaurd.



Pirate Paul= ****ING AWESOME!

[Mister J]

God, I can't wait for Henry's contract to be over.

"You...better...be ready. To put me...in a casket."

You have got to be kidding.:rolleyes:

[The Punisher]

I know what you mean.

[DOG LIPS]

Poor Helms. Every week the same crap, either beat up, or attacked by all the little nobodies. :(

[The Ghoul]

Poor Helms. Every week the same crap, either beat up, or attacked by all the little nobodies. :(

I disagree. His match was greaat & it makes sence he loses to Benoit, but in his title defeence he always pulls iit out. So it's not like he went to SD! to job, he was champoined, given time to be a cool smarmy heel, & if he gets beat down by the other cruisers it's because they are trying to be billed as something otherthan just "nobodies". Plus I know all the ECW & ROH fans wouldn't take to kindly to you calling Kid Kash, Mexicools, Nunzio, Spanky, Paul London & Jaime Noble nobodies.

[DOG LIPS]

I disagree. His match was greaat & it makes sence he loses to Benoit, but in his title defeence he always pulls iit out. So it's not like he went to SD! to job, he was champoined, given time to be a cool smarmy heel, & if he gets beat down by the other cruisers it's because they are trying to be billed as something otherthan just "nobodies". Plus I know all the ECW & ROH fans wouldn't take to kindly to you calling Kid Kash, Mexicools, Nunzio, Spanky, Paul London & Jaime Noble nobodies.
Sorry, I guess I just miss Hurricane. :(

[DOG LIPS]

Undertakerrrrrrr.

Mark won't fit in a casket. :(

[Lone Wolf]

Poor Helms. Every week the same crap, either beat up, or attacked by all the little nobodies. :(

I was thinking that since theres no crusierweight at the moment who has yet to defeat Helms, why not the Miz? Since he's debuting in a couple weeks, they could probably be setting up something similar to what they did when Carlito first debuted. He had his first title match, with his first debut inside a WWE ring. And won only by cheating, not that I'm saying Miz would do the same to pick up his victory. Still though, theres a chance he could take it...

What do you all think?

[3dman27]

Undertakerrrrrrr.

Mark won't fit in a casket. :(
he wouldn'T fit in a GARAGE

[3dman27]

Sorry, I guess I just miss Hurricane. :(
SO DO I DOG LIPS

[Sarge 2.0]

I guess the general consensus is Pirate Paul is the coolest thing ever. :up:

Especially since they acknowledge how goofy the gimmick is, and how it's juxtaposed by his ring skill. Also, I have to agree with jack...best.entrance.ever.

[The Techno Bat]

I have a great idea. I think wwe should make a new stable called "The A-List" a hollywood gimmick with MNM & the Miz as "celebrities" Davari is their sleezey manager/agent & Mark Henry is their big black bodygaurd.
Pirate Paul= ****ING AWESOME!

That's a pretty good idea, considering the WWE doesn't have any stables right now and could use a couple, putting those wrestlers together would work well, except for Mark Henry, maybe they could bring in another OVW wrestler like Da Beast (6'6 272 lbs), or Dalip Singh, he has a hollywood movie under his belt and would fit into the hollywood gimmick stable, anybody but Mark Henry...

And instead of Davari who should be wrestling, what is the status of Johnny Fairplay? Is he still under contract with TNA? If not I say that the WWE should sign him, prime him and throw him in as there manager....

[Sarge 2.0]

That's a pretty good idea, considering the WWE doesn't have any stables right now and could use a couple, putting those wrestlers together would work well, except for Mark Henry, maybe they could bring in another OVW wrestler like Da Beast (6'6 272 lbs), or Dalip Singh, he has a hollywood movie under his belt and would fit into the hollywood gimmick stable, anybody but Mark Henry...

And instead of Davari who should be wrestling, what is the status of Johnny Fairplay? Is he still under contract with TNA? If not I say that the WWE should sign him, prime him and throw him in as there manager....Fairplay has been released...but it's probably for the best if that guy stays FAR away from wrestling. They would have a hard time getting him into the building considering how big his head is.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3xcoy2

Some rapper called Kabal has recorded this diss rap on Cena using Cena's entrance theme

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, I can't imagine the hip hop community would take Cena seriously.

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I can't imagine the hip hop community would take Cena seriously.

the file is only 2MB,yous should download it,personally i think Cena's delivery is better than this guy

[Sarge 2.0]

Nevermind...this dude sounds whiter than Cena. :o

His rhymes are Ok...but yeah...he sounds like a high school science professor. :o

[The FallenAngel]

IMO, if you're white, and not Eminem, you shouldn't rap. That goes doubly so for Cena, who sucks at that too. :o

[Sarge 2.0]

Speaking of Cena...his goddamn wikipedia article was edited again. I'm not even going to try anymore.

[The FallenAngel]

Hahaha. They all love him over there.

[The Apatow Crew]

I guess the general consensus is Pirate Paul is the coolest thing ever. :up:

Especially since they acknowledge how goofy the gimmick is, and how it's juxtaposed by his ring skill. Also, I have to agree with jack...best.entrance.ever.

i guess so. that finisher was sick. it was like a flipping ddt. but that entrance was funny though. i guess thee just trying to play on OTC coming out this summer.

[Sabretooth]

I would've preferred they made Burchill a monster heel,but the pirate thing does work too. I think his in ring skills and mic work make the gimmick cool.

[DOG LIPS]

Just so long as he doesn't change into a BUTT-pirate like Sava, we'll all be fine. :(:up:

[Hunter Rider]

Speaking of Cena...his goddamn wikipedia article was edited again. I'm not even going to try anymore.

His wikipedia page is located dead smack in the middle of DEgypt:(

[Sabretooth]

Just so long as he doesn't change into a BUTT-pirate like Sava, we'll all be fine. :(:up:
Or Flexo. Oh god......:(

[DOG LIPS]

Or Flexo. Oh god......:(
"Yaarrggghh!! Ye be givin me yur booty!!"

:(

[The FallenAngel]

:eek: :(

[Sarge 2.0]

His wikipedia page is located dead smack in the middle of DEgypt:(Clearly detractors were wrong about the fan backlash, due to the overwhelmingly positive response Cena recieved in India. :rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Clearly detractors were wrong about the fan backlash, due to the overwhelmingly positive response Cena recieved in India. :rolleyes:

Maybe WWE should hold their PPV's in Delhi then,or i need my ears testing and fans are chanting "Cena Rocks" on RAW:confused:

[Sarge 2.0]

Maybe WWE should hold their PPV's in Delhi then,or i need my ears testing and fans are chanting "Cena Rocks" on RAW:confused:I guess Cena is just to India what Hasslehoff is to Germany. :o

[Hunter Rider]

I guess Cena is just to India what Hasslehoff is to Germany. :o
the Hass has better hair though:O

[Sarge 2.0]

And he writes better music. :o

[Hunter Rider]

And he writes better music. :o

:eek: .....Pw3n3red:(

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/plr2nu (http://www.sendspace.com/file/plr2nu)

Cactus vs Funk King Of The Deathmatch final 95,

[Go Web Go!]

Sorry, I guess I just miss Hurricane. :(

Booo! No way. That character became so stale after a couple of months.

[Jason Blood]

I call Paul Burchill for avatar rights

I just need to make one...

[The Ghoul]

i want one. my copmuter sucks so I ask with all my heart, I aam forever in ye debt if someone can make me a siick piratee paul avitar... grovle grovle, grovle

[Jason Blood]

This is the best I could come up with for now

I hope I can make a decent gif sometime

all I need is for him to do a good "Swashbuckler" (the one this past friday sucked) and I'll have a better avvy

[Eklypze]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3xcoy2

Some rapper called Kabal has recorded this diss rap on Cena using Cena's entrance theme


WTF?!? I RAP WITH THE GUY AND I DIDNT KNOW HE DID THIS THATS AWESOME HAHAHA

[Eklypze]

wait nevermind that aint the same kabal i rap with that dude seriously sucks

[Jason Blood]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3xcoy2

Some rapper called Kabal has recorded this diss rap on Cena using Cena's entrance theme

ROFLCOPTER

[NDX]

Wow, the vocals and delivery just suck in the song. But it made me laugh, good enough. The chorus works, however.

Not like I had to pay for it.

[The FallenAngel]

Just got back from ROH. Fantastic show. :up: CZW pwned BJ Whitmer at the end though. They taped him to the ropes and put staples in him, and used some barbwire on him. Some dude with a weedwhacker chased off all the ROH guys. Fun show. If you want results and what not just ask.

[Sarge 2.0]

The ROH show tonight was nuts...I'll give match reviews later, but for now I'd like to tell the tale of what happened at the end of the show.

The main event of the night was supposed to be an old school Three Way Dance in honor of the venue (former ECW Arena on the corner of Ritner and Swanson), between Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels and Colt Cabana. Obviously, this would kick ass. Well, before the match began, it was announced that Joe's flight came in late, so the Three Way became a singles match between Colt and Daniels. Throughout the event, the CZW fans (who attended for the CZW show later in the night) crapped on the matches. Even the great one between Shelley and Danielson, the wouldn't stop ******ing. So obviously, Joe no showing only increased tensions. Luckily, after Daniels was pinned by Colt, Joe's music hit, and he came out wearing a t-shirt and jeans. So, he hauled ass from the airport, which means the whole late flight thing wasn't a work. Joe and Colt wrestled a match, and Joe pinned Colt.

Afterwards, BJ Whitmer showed up (earlier during his challenge to Necro Butcher, he was ambushed by Super Dragon, who was promptly chased off by the ROH locker room) and asked Joe if he was ready for another fight. He called out Butcher and Dragon. There's an anecdote before this where Joe gets nailed by some douche who decided to throw toilet paper, and Joe jumped the rail and grabbed the guy, but that's not as important. So, Joe and BJ proceeded to beat on Necro and Dragon, when members of the CZW locker room stormed the ring. Joe and BJ brawled with them for a while, and ROH students came and helped fend them off. More CZW guys came, and eventually Generation Next (minus Jack), and Christopher Daniels helped fend off the CZW guys. Of course, this didn't last long as Daniels, Joe, Gen Next and the rest of the locker room was chased off by some psycho with a weed whacker. Then the rest of the CZW locker room decides to show up and torture (not using the word lightly here) BJ Whitmer. They taped him to the ring ropes, stapled CZW logos on to him, spray painted CZW on his back and torso, and generally just beat the piss out of him. Necro even destroyed the ring bell, and was taking down the ropes with a hammer. The CZW music hit, and the Tron type thing (which had been playing the ROH logo all night) played the CZW logo. The CZW locker room spray painted "CZW" over the ROH symbol in the ring, and some fights started to break out in the crowd. This is when I left, and the guys in the ring started talking about "Ring of Honor coming to their house, and getting what was coming to them". Fights probably ensued, which is why me and FallenAngel decided to leave.

Really fun ending to a really fun show...match reviews later.

Oh, and **** CZW. :):up:

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, I'll give my own reviews of the matches later. Anyways, that fan that threw the toilet paper at Joe passed out in Joe's arms. It was awesome. He tried to get away, but Joe jumped over the rail, grabbed him, and started dragging him back to the ring. The dude went limp and the security guys had to carry him out. Joe is God.


**** CZW!

[Mister J]

Just got back from ROH. Fantastic show. :up: CZW pwned BJ Whitmer at the end though. They taped him to the ropes and put staples in him, and used some barbwire on him. Some dude with a weedwhacker chased off all the ROH guys. Fun show. If you want results and what not just ask.

That sounds like a damn good time...and a bit painful for Whitmer.

[Hunter Rider]

Sounds insane:eek:
How good was Shelley/AmDrag ?

They should settle this feud Wargames style with the double cages:mad: :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Sounds insane:eek:
How good was Shelley/AmDrag ?

They should settle this feud Wargames style with the double cages:mad: :up:Great match...the promos before hand were gold. There were even promos during the match, when Shelley got fed up with the heckling and ripped into the crowd. Lots of hold exchanges in the first part of the match, so it was a little slow going at the start. This gave the Combat Zone junkies a chance to chant "Booooring" and "This match sucks!". Of course, this lit a fire under AmDrag and Shelley, and they both gave 110% in the second and third act. It was almost flawless from then on with some breath taking near falls and great psychology from Shelley. The finish from AmDrag was just genius.

[The FallenAngel]

Wargames! Hells yeah! :mad:

Anyway, Shelley/AmDrag was easily the best match tonight. Fantastic mat work by both. AmDrag was incredible as a heel. He also did some **** RVD style, with a springboard senton from the ring into the crowd. Awesome stuff. They had some good back and forth. AmDrag got Cattle Mutilation, but Shelley broke it. Shelley hit the Shellshock, but AmDrag kicked out. The ending was incredible. Shelley hit Sliced Bread #2, and AmDrag rolled through, flipped over him, turned it into Cattle Mutilation, and then got a pin. Amazing.

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks for the info guys:up: I need this DVD ASAP!!!!
Good to see AmDrag pin Shelley instead of making him submit,leaves an opening for a rematch

[Sarge 2.0]

Also, on another note...Sonjay Dutt wrestles for CZW, so he was there tonight beating up on Whitmer. He even stapled something to Whitmer's head and screamed "C-Z-****ing-Dub!".

[The FallenAngel]

**** Sonjay Dutt! :mad:

[Sarge 2.0]

Also...on another note...the Rottweilers became the number one contenders after the tag team scramble match. I had thought the Briscoes would be the ones to get it, but there was a reason why my prediction was off. Since the Briscoes are currently feuding with GenNext, they came out after Sydal's match with Aries (which was great). Sydal said that since Roddy and Austin were already in a match at 4/22 with the Rottweilers, he would take care of the Briscoes with his own tag team partner....AJ Styles. :D

[NDX]

****, I knew I was gonna miss a good one. Guess I'll have to settle for the dvd.

[Sabretooth]

Source: lordsofpain.net

The plan is for Jim Ross to make his on-screen WWE return at next week's "Saturday Night's Main Event" telecast on NBC.

There had been talk that WWE wanted to reintegrate Ross into storyline, at least for the short-term, as part of the build to WrestleMania, and it seems as if WWE has officially decided on a date.

Ross will be commentating this event, although it is not believed he will be brought back as a full-time announcer for RAW or SmackDown.

Ross, who remains under WWE contract, has been off WWE TV since his on-air "firing" late last year.

[Sarge 2.0]

Yes! :D

[NDX]

This is both good and bad.

Good - JR is back behind the mic.

Bad - JR is back behind the mic on a show where Steve Austin is appearing.

Oh well, gotta take the good with the bad. Now if we could just get the Coach off the show.

[Sarge 2.0]

I don't see how the second part is bad...if you're worried about how it will effect the storyline, I think they're just going to let it slide for the moment.

[Bull4]

It csucks it was not on in Boston.

[NDX]

I'm not worried about the storyline at all, I just cringe whenever I hear JR yell "STONE COLD!" 3 times at the top of his lungs. After so many years of it, I grew to loathe it. Otherwise, I'm very happy with JR making a return.

[Bull4]

Yo NDX.

Yes JR is back.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'm not worried about the storyline at all, I just cringe whenever I hear JR yell "STONE COLD!" 3 times at the top of his lungs. After so many years of it, I grew to loathe it. Otherwise, I'm very happy with JR making a return.Heh. :D
Ah well, I love it. Guess I'm sort of a traditionalist that way.

[Bull4]

JR is the best announcer ever.

[Bull4]

Stupid Boston had on a special Dr. Phil instead of wrestling.

[Sarge 2.0]

This was just posted by Gabe on the ROH boards:


I've had enough. Our debut show at the former ECW Arena was completely ruined by those CZW idiots. Weedwackers? What the **** is that? The ROH roster is made up of real wrestlers, athletes who don't expect to get hacked. Our guys go to PPV and national TV, they don't need to show up with scars from a weedwacker.

So then I get a call from BJ Whitmer after the CZW show saying Zandig was talking trash about April 22nd. Hey Zandig, you owe us $3000 for a new canvas and banners you stupid ****. What the **** was with the spray paint.

I could sit here all night and rant and rave but i'll just sum this up simply.

The gloves are definitely off now. We have been having our fun with you guys, but now you are making us get deadly serious. April 22nd ROH has a show back in our Philadelphia home of the National Guard Armory. We challenge anyone from the CZW roster to show up for a fight. You bring a team to face team ROH.

We'll even make things seem a little like home for you. On April 22nd we will have bleachers on both sides of the ring. One side for the ROH fans. One side for the CZW fans. The CZW fans will be made at home in their own section so you guys will have plenty of support. Now the question is do you have the balls?

You got our attention now. You ruined our debut and only former ECW Arena show. April 22nd show up because it's time to pay the price.

I'll be there as well. :D

Goddamn, this feud is awesome.

[NDX]

Hey Bull.

Goddamn I need to go to that show. I gotta see about getting there. That should be a fun one.

I like how this feud is playing off on the net as well. The upcoming months should be some fun ones for wrestling.

[Bull4]

Forget this post

[Bull4]

So what the 411 on wrestling?

[Sarge 2.0]

Hey Bull.

Goddamn I need to go to that show. I gotta see about getting there. That should be a fun one.

I like how this feud is playing off on the net as well. The upcoming months should be some fun ones for wrestling.It sucks that you couldn't come to last night's show...the end brawl was just perfection. And I have a new respect for Whitmer after the hardcore spots he took infront of the rabid Combat Zone junkies cheering for blood. Hopefully you can make it to 4/22. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

I'm glad to hear JR is coming back. I miss him behind the mic. Can't wait to hear him at SNME.

April 22nd will rock. The matches should be great, and this feud is awesome. Team CZW vs. Team ROH. Good stuff. :up: Hope you can make it there NDX.

[NDX]

It sucks that you couldn't come to last night's show...the end brawl was just perfection. And I have a new respect for Whitmer after the hardcore spots he took infront of the rabid Combat Zone junkies cheering for blood. Hopefully you can make it to 4/22. :up:

I'm going to see about their bustrips that they put together if my friend can't do it. This event is also perfect for me since it is during the end of my Spring Break from classes AND teaching, where this weekend I'm still fleshing out a lesson plan, and failing miserably I might add, for tomorrow.

If all else fails, I have three shows in a 10 days span in May, including the Lake Grove ROH show where Christian (Cage) is showing up.

[Assassin]

why do you guys hate on cena? at least he can wrestle...

[Sarge 2.0]

why do you guys hate on cena? at least he can wrestle...Actually, most of "us" (myself included) dislike Cena as a champion because of his limited ability in the ring. He's really more of a brawler, and his matches become formulaic...they rely on superhuman no sells to get him over.

[Sabretooth]

why do you guys hate on cena? at least he can wrestle...
No. No he can't. :)

[Eric Draven]

Actually the reason why I don't like Cena at the moment is due to the fact that the WWE pussied out his character entirely. I think he still as potential to be popular with the fans again, but the way they continually portray him, that opportunity may be passing....

[Assassin]

i prefer him to batista, randy orton and Triple H

[Sabretooth]

i prefer him to batista, randy orton and Triple H
All of those guys are superior to him in terms of the mic skills. Every other word out of Cena's mouth now is a stupid catchphrase.

[Assassin]

Batista? mic skills? lol APril fools is next month

[Sabretooth]

Batista? mic skills? lol APril fools is next month
Did you see him at the last PPV? He cut a good promo and the crowd loved him. I never said he was the best but he can sure as hell work an audience.

[Sarge 2.0]

Batista? mic skills? lol APril fools is next monthHe may not have snappy put downs, or an assload of charsima, but at least he can talk without spouting out the latest t-shirt catch phrase.

[Eric Draven]

It's not really the mic skills that helped Batista get over anyways, it was his presence....

[Bull4]

why do you guys hate on cena? at least he can wrestle...

I agree with you Assassin Cena is a wonderful wrestler. And if it was for letting Cena be himself then he got great mic skill. Not Cena's or anyone elses fault that Vince wants to flush WWE in the toilet.

[Sarge 2.0]

It's not really the mic skills that helped Batista get over anyways, it was his presence....Yeah, he just really knows how to project a persona. Talking isn't a necessity for him like it is for other wrestlers. Of course, he could use a better moveset but that's for another discussion. :o

[Assassin]

and theres no way he wrestles better than cena..he's lame as hell.

Shelton Benjimin is the next star of wwe, i can see him going places, unlike batista who's stale as hell.

[Bull4]

Shelton not that good. Plus he needs to drop that momma bit.

[Eric Draven]

Where else does Batista need to go? He's basically held the World Heavyweight title for the better part of a year, beating Triple H 3 times. Plus he's almost 40, it's not like he's going to be wrestling much anyways....:confused:

[Assassin]

Like Carlito can work th emic but he's a crappy wrestler, Masters is like any other big guy, no personality. Lashly is strong with good moves but has no personality. In this bussiness, you need a personality.

[Bull4]

I think HBK is the best right now. But that's my opion.

[Bull4]

Shawn got moves, mic skill, personality, is realstic, and kind good looking finally.

[Assassin]

Shelton not that good. Plus he needs to drop that momma bit.

He doesnt write the scripts...

and he is that good, he's like Angle and RVD mixed, he's a little of both


wwe needs to get se-pussified again.

[Bull4]

He doesnt write the scripts...

and he is that good, he's like Angle and RVD mixed, he's a little of both


wwe needs to get se-pussified again.

Benjamin on= bathroom time

[Sarge 2.0]

Benjamin on= bathroom timeSeriously? Shelton's an incredible athlete. :confused:

And a great performer to boot...HBK has acknowledged this himself. :o

[Assassin]

you just dont like Black ppl you bigot..

[Assassin]

when Shelton beat Triple H 3 times, i had a vison of him one day being a champion ;)

[Twitch]

Shelton not that good. Plus he needs to drop that momma bit.

The Momma gimmick is getting him over :up:

[Sabretooth]

I like SHelton,but I don't think they're willing to let him go too far. They think he has no personality,so he automatically sucks. Funny how Carlito is constantly pushed in the main event even though he's rather lackluster with his moveset. And I have no idea why Masters is in there,because he has nothing.

[Assassin]

i see him or RVD winning the money in the bank match

[Sarge 2.0]

I like SHelton,but I don't think they're willing to let him go too far. They think he has no personality,so he automatically sucks. Funny how Carlito is constantly pushed in the main event even though he's rather lackluster with his moveset. And I have no idea why Masters is in there,because he has nothing.I think if Carlito performs like he did with HBK on Raw a few months ago every week, he could be a credible main eventer. That, and he needs a look change, badly. Headliners with afros and bright purple clothes? No thanks.

[Sarge 2.0]

i see him or RVD winning the money in the bank matchCarlito isn't in money in the bank, he lost the qualifying match.

[Eric Draven]

I like SHelton,but I don't think they're willing to let him go too far. They think he has no personality,so he automatically sucks. Funny how Carlito is constantly pushed in the main event even though he's rather lackluster with his moveset. And I have no idea why Masters is in there,because he has nothing.

Carlito's personality helped him get over. And the past few weeks have proven that Carlito does have wrestling skill. But it seems like the WWE is content with just have Carlito be a chicken**** heel...

And Masters is there because he's Lex Luger 2006? :confused:

[Bull4]

Well if the boss says so I guess Shelton's cool. I don't argue with Shawn. I just don't personily like him. And no its not because I'm racist. Althouth true I don't have many black people I know.

[Eric Draven]

I think if Carlito performs like he did with HBK on Raw a few months ago every week, he could be a credible main eventer. That, and he needs a look change, badly. Headliners with afros and bright purple clothes? No thanks.

Yeah, although it is his trademark, I really can't take Carlito seriously with the fro.

Then again, I don't see him being a main event champion for a long time....:o

[Assassin]

what they need is to team up Golddust and Booker t again and maybe i'll watch smack down

[Sabretooth]

Carlito's personality helped him get over. And the past few weeks have proven that Carlito does have wrestling skill. But it seems like the WWE is content with just have Carlito be a chicken**** heel...

And Masters is there because he's Lex Luger 2006? :confused:
Maybe Masters is just sleeping with one of the writers. :confused: ;)

[Sarge 2.0]

Well if the boss says so I guess Shelton's cool. I don't argue with Shawn. I just don't personily like him. And no its not because I'm racist. Althouth true I don't have many black people I know.Something I don't get about HBK...he's trained some of the best out there, the kings of the indies. Paul London, Spanky, AmDrag, etc....but he doesn't like Punk's style. :confused:

It strikes me as odd that a talent like HBK can't recognize a fellow talent, especially since HBK has trained so many of Punk's peers.

[Assassin]

Carlito isn't in money in the bank, he lost the qualifying match.

we were still talking about shelton when i said that

[Bull4]

Golddust was never good for long. He is like the Boogeyman. To weird.

[Sabretooth]

Something I don't get about HBK...he's trained some of the best out there, the kings of the indies. Paul London, Spanky, AmDrag, etc....but he doesn't like Punk's style. :confused:

It strikes me as odd that a talent like HBK can't recognize a fellow talent, especially since HBK has trained so many of Punk's peers.
I thought he just didn't like his attitude,which seems to be the main feeling of Punk ever since he signed with the devil himself. :(

[Eric Draven]

Something I don't get about HBK...he's trained some of the best out there, the kings of the indies. Paul London, Spanky, AmDrag, etc....but he doesn't like Punk's style. :confused:

It strikes me as odd that a talent like HBK can't recognize a fellow talent, especially since HBK has trained so many of Punk's peers.

It could do with him maybe wanting to promote the talent he made over others. Kind of like Vince and his treatment of WCW/ECW wrestlers during and after the Invasion angle.

[Assassin]

Greatest tag team ever Golddust and booker T....

well they're in the top 20 atleast, but the funniest thats for sure

[Sarge 2.0]

It could do with him maybe wanting to promote the talent he made over others. Kind of like Vince and his treatment of WCW/ECW wrestlers during and after the Invasion angle.While it could be possible, that doesn't seem like something Shawn would do. I think if he really had those intentions, the cruiserweight division would be wearing thin right now.

[Sabretooth]

What's funny is,Mick Foley was the one wanting Punk to be in WWE. If Mick did,why not Shawn?

[The FallenAngel]

Shelton is one of the best in-ring workers on either shows roster. Yeah, he doesn't have much personality, but this momma angle is showing that he does have some.

As for Cena...well, I really don't like talking about him. He sucks, completely, which is why I can't wait for HHH to bury him at WM 22.

[Eric Draven]

While it could be possible, that doesn't seem like something Shawn would do. I think if he really had those intentions, the cruiserweight division would be wearing thin right now.

I dunno, it seems like something the old Shawn would do. I mean the old clique was notorious for always putting on five star matches against each other than half-assing it against other wrestlers.

The way I see it, it's nothing more than a pride thing.....

[Assassin]

wow people actually want Triple H to go back to his bull **** spitting water and beating every one in a 2 min match?

[Eric Draven]

What's funny is,Mick Foley was the one wanting Punk to be in WWE. If Mick did,why not Shawn?

Just because Mick wants Punk in, doesn't mean Shawn is in the same boat. Mick was always generous and willing to let younger talent go over him, Shawn on the other hand.....

[Sarge 2.0]

wow people actually want Triple H to go back to his bull **** spitting water and beating every one in a 2 min match?He's still spitting water. :confused:

And I would like it better than Cena doing superhuman bull**** to obviously more talented workers every Raw. At least I enjoy watching Triple H. Face Cena just blows...if he was heel, I wouldn't mind him with the belt.

[Mister J]

wow people actually want Triple H to go back to his bull **** spitting water and beating every one in a 2 min match?
As opposed to Cena having convulsions upon entrance, taking a beating in the match only to prevail with the Five or Six Moves of Doom?

Yes.

[Twitch]

wow people actually want Triple H to go back to his bull **** spitting water and beating every one in a 2 min match?

I personally would turn Cena heel. It would so refresh the character. If not give it to HHH.

[Eric Draven]

I personally would turn Cena heel. It would so refresh the character. If not give it to HHH.

Yeah, me too. I really don't want Triple H with the title either, but rather a fresh heel have a title reign.....

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, me too. I really don't want Triple H with the title either, but rather a fresh heel have a title reign.....Like Edge. :o

[Sabretooth]

How I pray for a double turn. Funny this incident happens again during the year Wrestlemania goes to Chicago.

[Eric Draven]

Like Edge. :o

Or Cena, or hell, anybody but Triple H.

And at least with Edge as the heel champion, fans were actually starting to cheer for Cena again....

[Sabretooth]

Like Edge. :o
What did Edge still have to prove to keep the title? He cut great promos,defended the title in some excellent matches,and brought the ratings to a new high. It's not fair,god dammit!:mad:

[Twitch]

Like Edge. :o

Edge was awesome but HHH wanted the 1# spot :(:down

[Sabretooth]

Or Cena, or hell, anybody but Triple H.

And at least with Edge as the heel champion, fans were actually starting to cheer for Cena again....
Exactly. Triple H kept talking about how he was going to show Kurt Angle and Jericho and Edge how to be a good heel,when Edge was already doing that. All Triple H has really done is just make the situation worse by dissing Cena and how limited he is.

[The Ghoul]

wow people actually want Triple H to go back to his bull **** spitting water and beating every one in a 2 min match?

yes. untill RVD takes his deserved spot.

[Assassin]

he won it a pussy way, so that made him weak..so he lost it the first chance he got defending it.

[Sabretooth]

he won it a pussy way, so that made him weak..so he lost it the first chance he got defending it.
For a pussy way to win,it sure as hell made the booking team seem credible by actually pulling a fast one on us. :o

[Eric Draven]

Exactly. Triple H kept talking about how he was going to show Kurt Angle and Jericho and Edge how to be a good heel,when Edge was already doing that. All Triple H has really done is just make the situation worse by dissing Cena and how limited he is.

I found those comments so funny actually. Triple H was allowed to say all that stuff like Cena was an average wrestler. Have you ever seen any other heel say that about a wrestler? "Oh, you suck in the ring, therefore I'm better than you, blah blah blah" :rolleyes:

And the fact that Cena couldn't even respond in kind just makes the whole situation even more pathetic

[The Ghoul]

... ummm that wholee promo was Vince's idea. It's not that HHH was a loud to get away with it but Vince's thought an angle likee this would appease the smarks in somee way... and it did!::):

[Sabretooth]

I found those comments so funny actually. Triple H was allowed to say all that stuff like Cena was an average wrestler. Have you ever seen any other heel say that about a wrestler? "Oh, you suck in the ring, therefore I'm better than you, blah blah blah" :rolleyes:

And the fact that Cena couldn't even respond in kind just makes the whole situation even more pathetic
Considering that's all Edge is about,it should've been him saying that. His gimmick is all about being in your face and telling it like it is,so why not?

[Eric Draven]

... ummm that wholee promo was Vince's idea. It's not that HHH was a loud to get away with it but Vince's thought an angle likee this would appease the smarks in somee way... and it did!::):

I didn't. The entire thing just sickened me. Just imagine if they had allowed Cena to respond in kind, like say something to the extent of "At least I won my title without having to sleep with the boss's daughter". Something, I'm sure the Cena of old would've said. But of course, nothing like that would ever happen because we can't speak ill of the King of Kings....:o

[Eric Draven]

Considering that's all Edge is about,it should've been him saying that. His gimmick is all about being in your face and telling it like it is,so why not?

I'm thinking it's because Triple H would have nothing to say to help him get over in his feud with Cena.....

[Sabretooth]

I didn't. The entire thing just sickened me. Just imagine if they had allowed Cena to respond in kind, like say something to the extent of "At least I won my title without having to sleep with the boss's daughter". Something, I'm sure the Cena of old would've said. But of course, nothing like that would ever happen because we can't speak ill of the King of Kings....:o
Even old Cena couldn't have said that. While that would've been awesome,Vince would go ballistic. In his mind he thinks wrestling fans don't know about Triple H's personal life and that they divorced in that storyline. You could tell Cena was thinking of saying that though.

[Mister J]

I didn't. The entire thing just sickened me. Just imagine if they had allowed Cena to respond in kind, like say something to the extent of "At least I won my title without having to sleep with the boss's daughter". Something, I'm sure the Cena of old would've said. But of course, nothing like that would ever happen because we can't speak ill of the King of Kings....:o

That's exactly what I was looking for. It would have been perfect. Instead, Cena just stood there. They might as well have had him bend over.

[The Ghoul]

I didn't. The entire thing just sickened me. Just imagine if they had allowed Cena to respond in kind, like say something to the extent of "At least I won my title without having to sleep with the boss's daughter". Something, I'm sure the Cena of old would've said. But of course, nothing like that would ever happen because we can't speak ill of the King of Kings....:o

WM is still 3 weeks away, that gives Cena (who btw will not be thrown down the ladder after WM there is a usual rematch at Backlash) plenty of timee eitheer before or after WM to respond back. because if this isn't the fiirst step of a heel turn (frustration) theen i don't know what is.

[Eric Draven]

Even old Cena couldn't have said that. While that would've been awesome,Vince would go ballistic. In his mind he thinks wrestling fans don't know about Triple H's personal life and that they divorced in that storyline. You could tell Cena was thinking of saying that though.

But we are allowed to know that Cena is an average wrestler though. I'm not saying that Cena has to say something like Triple H sleeps with the boss's daughter, just respond to something in kind just to at least try and prove that he's somewhat better than Triple H.

[Eric Draven]

WM is still 3 weeks away, that gives Cena (who btw will not be thrown down the ladder after WM there is a usual rematch at Backlash) plenty of timee eitheer before or after WM to respond back. because if this isn't the fiirst step of a heel turn (frustration) theen i don't know what is.

I'm hoping there's at least a punk-out at SNME. That's like the perfect opportunity right there for something to happen.

[Eric Draven]

That's exactly what I was looking for. It would have been perfect. Instead, Cena just stood there. They might as well have had him bend over.

Yep. The John Cena that was popular wouldn't have taken that ****. He would've burned his opponent back in kind. And that's what made him popular in the first place. None of this "I know people don't like me, but that's cool because I'm a huge wuss now".

[Assassin]

I do hope some thing big happens at SNME, because like a thread i made at a wrestling forum years ago, Every thing good happens in Detroit :D

[Super_Ludacris]

Actually Detroit does have a good crowd *remembers being at Halloween Havoc 94*

[Assassin]

WM3
Survivor series-austin getting hit by car
Raw-Austin throws medals in Detroit river
Smackdown before WM18-irst Hogan fight since his return with nWo
Raw-Austin driving zamboni (redwings) to ring to knock out Mcmahn and about 20 Cops
Raw-1st ever draft
Raw-Rock throws the snake belt in the Detroit River
Smackdown-austin runs over rocks new lincolin (it was in Grand Rapids but still Michigan)


so much more that i cant remember

[The Techno Bat]

WM3
Survivor series-austin getting hit by car
Raw-Austin throws medals in Detroit river
Smackdown before WM18-irst Hogan fight since his return with nWo
Raw-Austin driving zamboni (redwings) to ring to knock out Mcmahn and about 20 Cops
Raw-1st ever draft
Raw-Rock throws the snake belt in the Detroit River
Smackdown-austin runs over rocks new lincolin (it was in Grand Rapids but still Michigan)


so much more that i cant remember

wOw those are some great things that did happen in Detroit...The Zamboni thing was one of the best things I had ever seen!

[Sabretooth]

Yep. The John Cena that was popular wouldn't have taken that ****. He would've burned his opponent back in kind. And that's what made him popular in the first place. None of this "I know people don't like me, but that's cool because I'm a huge wuss now".
I'm telling you,there's not much Cena could say. A few years ago he was against Rene Dupree,Booker,Big Show,and Angle. Those guys it wouldn't matter what he said. It's a different ballgame with Triple H,and Cena would've gotten fired right then and there if he said something about Triple H.

[Jason Blood]

What did Edge still have to prove to keep the title? He cut great promos,defended the title in some excellent matches,and brought the ratings to a new high. It's not fair,god dammit!:mad:
Getting screwed is Edge's gimmick.

it pretty much always has been

people say that Matt Hardy was emo because he complained that he got fired,while Edge whines on TV all the damn time

Edge cuts some damn fine promos, but whining again is his gimmick

[Eric Draven]

I'm telling you,there's not much Cena could say. A few years ago he was against Rene Dupree,Booker,Big Show,and Angle. Those guys it wouldn't matter what he said. It's a different ballgame with Triple H,and Cena would've gotten fired right then and there if he said something about Triple H.

That's why I dislike this whole feud. Cena can't do **** against Triple H....which is par for the course for anybody that feuds with the "King of Kings".

[Jason Blood]

the thing I like right now is that the WWE is building a lot more challengers for the WWE championship these days

it used to be HHH versus the flavor of the month, but now Show has even been built into a decent contendor

[Assassin]

i gotta start watching Smackdown because i have no idea who the Burchill guy is

[Hunter Rider]

ewwwwwwwwww what is all this Cena is better than Orton nonsense ?:confused:
Orton's work in the ring smokes Cena completely,Cena is currently half a wrestler,he bumps great but has crappy offense and weak strikes

Shelton is a spotty worker and needs to not botch so many important moves

[The Punisher]

Agreed.

[The Punisher]

the thing I like right now is that the WWE is building a lot more challengers for the WWE championship these days

it used to be HHH versus the flavor of the month, but now Show has even been built into a decent contendor

True and hopefully they'll give more wrestlers a chance.

[Sarge 2.0]

ewwwwwwwwww what is all this Cena is better than Orton nonsense ?:confused:
Orton's work in the ring smokes Cena completely,Cena is currently half a wrestler,he bumps great but has crappy offense and weak strikes

Shelton is a spotty worker and needs to not botch so many important movesOrton is the complete package, the way I see it. His style is very well rounded, his charisma and heel work is great, and he keeps the audience energized through the whole match. Cena doesn't come close to Orton.

[Jason Blood]

i gotta start watching Smackdown because i have no idea who the Burchill guy is
he's awesome

[Hunter Rider]

That's why I dislike this whole feud. Cena can't do **** against Triple H....which is par for the course for anybody that feuds with the "King of Kings".

Totally agree with everything youve said in here about the HHH/Cena stuff,i hope this week he nuts up and says something at the contract signing

[Hunter Rider]

Orton is the complete package, the way I see it. His style is very well rounded, his charisma and heel work is great, and he keeps the audience energized through the whole match. Cena doesn't come close to Orton.

Agreed,he has had a great run since the taker feud ended,his heel work is such a good mix of sneering grinding offense and athletic arrogance and his selling and bumping is first class plus he has great facial expressions

[Sarge 2.0]

Agreed,he has had a great run since the taker feud ended,his heel work is such a good mix of sneering grinding offense and athletic arrogance and his selling and bumping is first class plus he has great facial expressionsI mark out big time whenever he gets that glint in his eyes and licks his lips before the RKO.

[Assassin]

shelton >Cena> Orton according to me

[Hunter Rider]

shelton >Cena> Orton according to me
Only you but thats cool:)

[Hunter Rider]

I mark out big time whenever he gets that glint in his eyes and licks his lips before the RKO.

Yeah he's just such a bastard but cool with it,kinda reminds me of a cross between 94 HBK and 98 Rock

[Assassin]

i'd prb l;ike orton more if he was on raw...but smackdown isnt the real thing because it isnt live

[Eric Draven]

Although it isn't live, Smackdown is the way superior show compared to Raw at the moment. They have a great mix of wrestlers and it seems lately, the wrestlers on Smackdown seem to be more into the show than the wrestlers on Raw, who just seem to be going through the motions.

[Sarge 2.0]

Although it isn't live, Smackdown is the way superior show compared to Raw at the moment. They have a great mix of wrestlers and it seems lately, the wrestlers on Smackdown seem to be more into the show than the wrestlers on Raw, who just seem to be going through the motions.Yeah, the Smackdown guys seem to really want to put on a show...Raw has just been "superstars" standing in the ring or backstage not doing much...and the actual matches are lackluster. SD get's right down to the wrestling, and has had some damn good matches in the process.

[Assassin]

i dunno, im never hom eon friday nights, and the past few shows i've watched were lame, not worth bothering my sister or mom/dad to set the vcr for me lol

[Hunter Rider]

i'd prb l;ike orton more if he was on raw...but smackdown isnt the real thing because it isnt live

But being live doesn't effect how good a worker a wrestler is

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, the Smackdown guys seem to really want to put on a show...Raw has just been "superstars" standing in the ring or backstage not doing much...and the actual matches are lackluster. SD get's right down to the wrestling, and has had some damn good matches in the process.

Yep,The Finlay/Lashley stuff in particualr has been great,i hope those two have a falls count anywhere match at WM22

[Sarge 2.0]

Yep,The Finlay/Lashley stuff in particualr has been great,i hope those two have a falls count anywhere match at WM22I have to admire Finlay for helping out Lashley like this...Finlay is probably the best thing to happen to SD in a long time.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, the Smackdown guys seem to really want to put on a show...Raw has just been "superstars" standing in the ring or backstage not doing much...and the actual matches are lackluster. SD get's right down to the wrestling, and has had some damn good matches in the process.

And they also have some entertaining segments as well when needed. Like the stuff with Burchill the past few weeks and even segments of the Boogeyman (before he became all supernatural :mad: )

[Hunter Rider]

I have to admire Finlay for helping out Lashley like this...Finlay is probably the best thing to happen to SD in a long time.

Yeah he has given Lashley the thing he was really missing-CONFIDENCE
he was a big guy that was afraid to use his power in case he hurt someone,maybe he wasn't working stiff because he was respecting the fact he is new,but nothing is worse than a huge guy with weak looking offense
Finlay has helped Lashley bring out his aggression and taught him how to utilize his power

[Sabretooth]

I like the commentating on SD! better than on Raw,as well. Joey Styles gets an orgasm from someone throwing a punch.

[Sarge 2.0]

I like the commentating on SD! better than on Raw,as well. Joey Styles gets an orgasm from someone throwing a punch.Actually...that's what I like about Joey. He's excellent with play by play...but now he barely says anything. :(

Vince told him to tone it down, so now commentary on Raw sucks. :(

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah he has given Lashley the thing he was really missing-CONFIDENCE
he was a big guy that was afraid to use his power in case he hurt someone,maybe he wasn't working stiff because he was respecting the fact he is new,but nothing is worse than a huge guy with weak looking offense
Finlay has helped Lashley bring out his aggression and taught him how to utilize his powerYeah, now Lashley can have presence without squashing some random jobbers.

[punishermax]

Yeah he has given Lashley the thing he was really missing-CONFIDENCE
he was a big guy that was afraid to use his power in case he hurt someone,maybe he wasn't working stiff because he was respecting the fact he is new,but nothing is worse than a huge guy with weak looking offense
Finlay has helped Lashley bring out his aggression and taught him how to utilize his power

The Lashley/Finlay fued has been gold for the last few weeks. Orton is building up big time for the WM match. Taker/Henry I'm not looking forward to, but, oh well, you gotta take the good with the bad. JBL/Benoit, will be a damn good match. Boogeyman/Booker T....meh, could care less about it. On the Raw side, HHH/Cena, again, meh. I just can't wait for HHH to go over at WM. It looks like they're going to be building to a RVD/Shelton fued....pure awesomeness. Tag belts, they pretty much don't exist at the moment. Michaels/Vinny, ummmm....could've been good, but now, it just looks like crap.

[Sabretooth]

Actually...that's what I like about Joey. He's excellent with play by play...but now he barely says anything. :(

Vince told him to tone it down, so now commentary on Raw sucks. :(
And then Lawler and Coach are deader than dead. At least Tazz and Cole seem interested.


On another note I hope Kane goes to SD! during the next draft lottery. Maybe when he's off the show featuring egomaniacs who refuse to let anyone over and sell moves,he'll go somewhere. :(

[Assassin]

kane vs boogy man :up:

[Sabretooth]

kane vs boogy man :up:
....Would be the worst match in the history of all mankind. Supernatural characters clashing with other supernatural characters,well,it doesn't clash well. :(

[Assassin]

why not?

[Eric Draven]

Boogeyman shouldn't even be a supernatural character in the first place. It defeats the whole purpose of the gimmick.....

[Sarge 2.0]

If you want an answer, just look at some of Takers matches in the early nineties. :o

[Sarge 2.0]

Boogeyman shouldn't even be a supernatural character in the first place. It defeats the whole purpose of the gimmick.....Yeah, his gimmick is much cooler when he's just some crazy actor who thinks he's the Boogeyman.

[The FallenAngel]

I agree that SD! commentary is much better. Tazz is hilarious, and Michael Cole, well, I can live with him. Telling Joey Styles to tone it down is a bad move, because that's what makes him so good. His style fits him. Coach doesn't know a damn thing about anything, and King only plays off what the other guys say.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, his gimmick is much cooler when he's just some crazy actor who thinks he's the Boogeyman.

Yep, that's why I liked the gimmick in the first place. Now all of a sudden he's having worms drop down into the ring or having worms materialize out of mailbags, he's become another Undertaker :(

[Hunter Rider]

The Lashley/Finlay fued has been gold for the last few weeks. Orton is building up big time for the WM match. Taker/Henry I'm not looking forward to, but, oh well, you gotta take the good with the bad. JBL/Benoit, will be a damn good match. Boogeyman/Booker T....meh, could care less about it. On the Raw side, HHH/Cena, again, meh. I just can't wait for HHH to go over at WM. It looks like they're going to be building to a RVD/Shelton fued....pure awesomeness. Tag belts, they pretty much don't exist at the moment. Michaels/Vinny, ummmm....could've been good, but now, it just looks like crap.

Orton has been on fire these past few weeks and is ready to be champ again,i share your apathy for Boogeyman/Booker,hoepfully it will end at SNME
Benoit/JBL reminds me so much of old NWA/WCW before Hogan with two badass stiff workers going at it
HBK/Vince is just pure garbage for me and HBK last run to boot:(
HHH/Cena gives me a perverse interest just based off not knowing how it will all go down at WM22

[Sarge 2.0]

Yep, that's why I liked the gimmick in the first place. Now all of a sudden he's having worms drop down into the ring or having worms materialize out of mailbags, he's become another Undertaker :(At least when Taker did it early in his career, people liked it because that was the style of the time. :(

Trying to make people take the Boogeyman seriously when the stuff that happens is more absurd than the original character is just a dumb move.

[Sabretooth]

They also need Boogey to do something other than eat worms. It got old after he did it the third week in a row.

[Hunter Rider]

At least when Taker did it early in his career, people liked it because that was the style of the time. :(

Trying to make people take the Boogeyman seriously when the stuff that happens is more absurd than the original character is just a dumb move.

I agree with you both that he should have stayed a comedy act who just thought he was supernatural and the ****ing worms get on my nerves:down

Taker shouldn't be in this convo,even at his zombie worst against Mable he was 10 times the worker Boogeyman is:mad:

[The FallenAngel]

He also needs to show up on Raw too, like he use to. That was awesome, and I wish he would stay backstage for segments.

[The Ghoul]

Boogeyman= toothless 45 year old nobody.











Pirate Paul= the $h!t

[Sarge 2.0]

I agree with you both that he should have stayed a comedy act who just thought he was supernatural and the ****ing worms get on my nerves:down

Taker shouldn't be in this convo,even at his zombie worst against Mable he was 10 times the worker Boogeyman is:mad:Yeah, at least zombie Taker had more than one move. :o

[The FallenAngel]

Hey...Boogeyman has three moves. :o

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, at least zombie Taker had more than one move. :o

Zombie Taker was a character that Mark Galloway had to work within the confines of so it limited his moveset,but all the moves he did do and little character spots were executed perfectly,Boogeyman's **** is sloppy as ****

[The Ghoul]

Hey...Boogeyman has three moves. :o

Worms, Clock, Sloppy pumphandle slam

[Sarge 2.0]

I've only ever seen one. I guess he might have three, but he never uses them. :o

[Eric Draven]

Worms, Clock, Sloppy pumphandle slam

Don't forget that little jiggy dance he does.....

[The Ghoul]

Don't forget that little jiggy dance he does.....

that dance makes me wonder if he was ever a male stripper with a voodoo witch doctor gimmick... just imagine that in some middle-aged housewife's face

[Assassin]

i have a hard time agreeing with you guys knowing your tastes..you all said meleina was hot a few days ago..so yea every thing after that is just..ehh

[The Ghoul]

i have a hard time agreeing with you guys knowing your tastes..you all said meleina was hot a few days ago..so yea every thing after that is just..ehh

... but Melina is hot.

[Hunter Rider]

i have a hard time agreeing with you guys knowing your tastes..you all said meleina was hot a few days ago..so yea every thing after that is just..ehh

Melina is hot and Boogeyman is crap this isnt about taste:confused:

[Sarge 2.0]

Wow, I guess everyone has different tastes...but I've never met someone who doesn't think Melina is hot. :o

[Twitch]

On another note I hope Kane goes to SD! during the next draft lottery. Maybe when he's off the show featuring e gomaniacs who refuse to let anyone over and sell moves,he'll go somewhere. :(

If Taker is truly gonna retire after WM, I would rather have him have one last dance with Kane and let Kane go over instead of this Taker/Henry bull****. IMO that would be the perfect way for Taker to go out :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Wow, I guess everyone has different tastes...but I've never met someone who doesn't think Melina is hot. :o

**** that Ive never met anyone that thinks the Boogeyman should be in the ring:(

[Eric Draven]

You know, Marty Wright is actually creepier pre-Boogeyman :eek: :eek:

http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/t/theboogeyman/gallery/photoscans/1/gallery1/019.jpg

[The Ghoul]

Boogeyman= toothless 45 year old nobody.











Pirate Paul= the $h!t

math is always exact. thus these equel signs say this is not oppinion this is fact... it's simple arithmetic

[Sarge 2.0]

You know, Marty Wright is actually creepier pre-Boogeyman :eek: :eek:

http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/t/theboogeyman/gallery/photoscans/1/gallery1/019.jpgI didn't need to see that. :(

[Eric Draven]

math is always exact. thus these equel signs say this is not oppinion this is fact... it's simple arithmetic

Actually you're wrong in your assessment of Boogeyman.














He's actually 42 :o

[Twitch]

You know, Marty Wright is actually creepier pre-Boogeyman :eek: :eek:

http://www.pwpix.net/superstars/t/theboogeyman/gallery/photoscans/1/gallery1/019.jpg

The Crotch, THE CROTCH

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :(

[The Punisher]

... but Melina is hot.

Indeed she is.

[The Ghoul]

Actually you're wrong in your assessment of Boogeyman.














He's actually 42 :o

Damn, my calculator is broken... but Pirate Paul= still the $h!t

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, I guess everyone has different tastes...but I've never met someone who doesn't think Melina is hot. :o

Right here :down:

[Assassin]

like i said havent seen smackdown in a few weeks, but when i did watch it boogy man was the ****, thats pre worms, i think when i saw it last it was the 1st time he ate them...

Melina is nasty as ****..eww gross :p

This just In from Wrestlezone.com
The plan is for Jim Ross to make his on-screen WWE return at next week's "Saturday Night's Main Event" telecast on NBC.

There had been talk that WWE wanted to reintegrate Ross into storyline, at least for the short-term, as part of the build to WrestleMania, and it seems as if WWE has officially decided on a date.

Ross will be commentating this event, although it is not believed he will be brought back as a full-time announcer for RAW or SmackDown.

Ross, who remains under WWE contract, has been off WWE TV since his on-air "firing" late last year

[punishermax]

I think someone posted that a couple days ago, but still nice to see.

[Sarge 2.0]

Sometimes...I'm embarassed to be a wrestling fan. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=squczMQyXY4) :(

[Colossal Spoons]

ROH = Ring Of Homos...



Hahaha

[Hunter Rider]

Right here :down:

Ya know i love ya spoons(in hetero way:p) but Dude!!!:mad: :( :down

[Assassin]

i used to like you when u agreed with me about melina..now :down

[Colossal Spoons]

Ya know i love ya spoons(in hetero way:p) but Dude!!!:mad: :( :down

The only thing I like about her is located below her waist, right beneath her back. Everything else looks "regular". As much as that's all I like about her; she was instantly replaced by Mickie James.


i used to like you when u agreed with me about melina..now :down


I assume you're referring to the ROH thing. I was just quoting those CZW fanboys in the link above my post :up:

[Assassin]

her face is hit...her body isnt a big deal when you have ppl like STacy, trish, torrie, candace and lita in the same company

its not like TNA where gail kim is hot because she's one of 4 girls..lol

[Hunter Rider]

The only thing I like about her is located below her waist, right beneath her back. Everything else looks "regular". As much as that's all I like about her; she was instantly replaced by Mickie James.






Mickie James and her "hindquarters" ? she is ruined since WWE got her IMO:(

[Colossal Spoons]

She's actually a really good wrestler; I agree. She and Victoria have been ruined by the WWE trying to cater to "us guys".

I could stare at her hindquarters all day though :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Mickie James and her "hindquarters" ? she is ruined since WWE got her IMO:(At least she's hot...even if her character is degrading, exploitative, and somewhat offensive. :o

That, and her abilities in-ring are never showcased.

[Hunter Rider]

She's actually a really good wrestler; I agree. She and Victoria have been ruined by the WWE trying to cater to "us guys".

I could stare at her hindquarters all day though :up:

When she was Alexis Laree she didn't look as balloony either:(

[Hunter Rider]

At least she's hot...even if her character is degrading, exploitative, and somewhat offensive. :o

That, and her abilities in-ring are never showcased.

She's kinda well down on my list,:O

[Colossal Spoons]

her face is hit...her body isnt a big deal when you have ppl like STacy, trish, torrie, candace and lita in the same company

its not like TNA where gail kim is hot because she's one of 4 girls..lol

I'm the conductor on the "Candace Is Not Hot" train :o

[Assassin]

any one just see sopranos? all i saw was the last scene OMG!