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Jason Blood
03-15-2006, 05:06 PM
why is the WWE frigging signing so many people they've fired?

what are they going to do with Test, Moore, and Palumbo?

why not just bring back Matt Morgan?

Sabretooth
03-15-2006, 05:13 PM
Morgan would be nice. I think he's expressed interest in TNA,though...

Lone Wolf
03-15-2006, 05:18 PM
why is the WWE frigging signing so many people they've fired?

what are they going to do with Test, Moore, and Palumbo?

why not just bring back Matt Morgan?

I think Moore will be placed on Velocity, or could go for the cruiserweight championship...

Sarge 2.0
03-15-2006, 05:22 PM
LOL,Sarge were you the one who put that stuff about Cena under his Music section on Wikipedia? :DNope. But I love the person that did. :O

The Apatow Crew
03-15-2006, 06:22 PM
they brought back Test, Moore? i knew about paulumbo. thats a good question though.

Eric Draven
03-15-2006, 06:27 PM
why is the WWE frigging signing so many people they've fired?

what are they going to do with Test, Moore, and Palumbo?

why not just bring back Matt Morgan?

Twofold:

1.They need people on Velocity/Heat and to pad the roster. Seriously, since their annual spring firings, both Raw and SD rosters have been looking kinda slim.

2. To make sure TNA doesn't get them. And to "bring down" their value in the wrestling industry.


The second one was almost straight up from the mouths of WWE management....

Assassin
03-15-2006, 07:25 PM
I think Shannon Moore is gonna help out Matt and win the Tag Team Championship with him

Twitch
03-15-2006, 07:45 PM
Nope. But I love the person that did. :O

link me

Tomwelling4sups
03-15-2006, 07:46 PM
way to go Burchill and Krystal :up:

Sarge 2.0
03-15-2006, 07:50 PM
link mehttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Cena&diff=43954892&oldid=43951998 :up:

Hunter Rider
03-15-2006, 08:33 PM
Apparently WWE have resigned Henry O Goodwin as well

NDX
03-15-2006, 09:10 PM
Apparently WWE have resigned Henry O Goodwin as well
What the ****ing hell? Is WWE so desperate to relive the Attitude Era they're going to start resigning guys from then?

When was the last time we saw Henry O Goodwin (I thought it was Godwin)?

Mister J
03-15-2006, 09:15 PM
Maybe we'll get One Man Gang (aka Akeem the African Dream) and Slick back too. 'Jive Soul Bro' was my jam.

Seriously, what's up with all these random signings?

Hunter Rider
03-15-2006, 09:17 PM
Maybe we'll get One Man Gang (aka Akeem the African Dream) and Slick back too. 'Jive Soul Bro' was my jam.

Seriously, what's up with all these random signings?

That theme rocked.I wnat ithttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:

Twitch here's your avvy

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5922/12gv.gif

There bring Henry back to job to Trpis so he can get his hogpen loss back:(

Eric Draven
03-15-2006, 09:19 PM
There bring Henry back to job to Trpis so he can get his hogpen loss back:(

Does that mean Ultimate Warrior will come back as well so Trips could avenge his 30-second squash at Wrestlemania? :confused:

NDX
03-15-2006, 09:43 PM
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Slick back, but not One Man Gang.

These aquisitions have been pretty random. Not really making sense, to me.

Assassin
03-15-2006, 09:57 PM
tatanka doesnt make sence to me..

NDX
03-15-2006, 10:10 PM
- WWE have two slots left for the 2006 WWE Hall of Fame ceremony. Tony Atlas seems to be the most likely candidate to being announced over the next two weeks. The other likely candidates are Blackjack Lanza and Blackjack Mulligan, to be inducted together as a tag team. The one thing holding them back from being inducted is that Blackjack Mulligan doesn't like to travel and leave his home. He's been suffering from depression, psychologicial problems and health issues in recent years. At one point, he was seeing very few people, not including his son Barry Windham, although, he is seeing his family regularly again now. Mulligan indicated to a friend that he would not be attending the Hall of Fame ceremony, although, he also said that he could change his mind if Vince McMahon personally talked him into attending.

The Apatow Crew
03-15-2006, 10:56 PM
Apparently WWE have resigned Henry O Goodwin as wellcan you say slopbucket? all we need is the guy who played mideon and the goodwins can be back.

Capt Throbberson
03-15-2006, 11:15 PM
I think Shannon Moore is gonna help out Matt and win the Tag Team Championship with him
Sadly, I don't think Matt's going to be doing anything other than jobbing for a long, long time.

The Ghoul
03-15-2006, 11:42 PM
i see moore coming back to trash TNA, win the cruiserweight title, lose it then job for the rest of his contract where he will be fired in an annual sweep, when his TNA bridge has sence been burned... Vince ****ing knows that. He is a dick, but he is smart

NDX
03-15-2006, 11:50 PM
Always said Vince was a smart bastard and knew how to kill a wrestler's career.

But it's not only his doing, most wrestlers know that and they still sign with him to live in wrestling limbo, burning potential bridges along the way. Oh well. Hopefully Moore will be in the Cruiserweight Division for a while, potentially winning the title, and dropping it an a pay per view cluster**** as is all PPV CW title matches.

And I could understand hiring back Henry O if Phineas/Mideon was hired back as well and actually reunite a good, entertaining (at least I thought so) tag team for Smackdown.

Assassin
03-16-2006, 12:02 AM
moore was actually pretty good when i saw him on TNA a few weeks back

Assassin
03-16-2006, 12:05 AM
a local indy wrestler i know named Eddie Venom aka Jay the cable guy was hired by wwe to play the part as a security guard at SNME if that spoils anything..

ohh well atleast he'll be on tv

Eklypze
03-16-2006, 12:32 AM
maybe they will bring back mosh and thrash too lol or they could bring back savio vega and i really wish they would bring in buff bagwell he was awesome

The Apatow Crew
03-16-2006, 12:58 AM
maybe they will bring back mosh and thrash too lol or they could bring back savio vega and i really wish they would bring in buff bagwell he was awesomelos burico's

how about RICO!

he was cool. wwe needs more style.

Eklypze
03-16-2006, 01:09 AM
haha i think they should take gold dust back to his crazy persona when he was with luna vachon haha and him and rico could be a team and hey they could bring back that kid with the one leg haha that was funny as hell seeing that kid do a moonsault

NDX
03-16-2006, 01:13 AM
Even if Bagwell didn't have on again off again drug issues, he's barely in ring shape. He works sporadic indy venues, and has been emotionally beaten down time after time, making him a pretty poor investment. Bagwell had hit pretty hard times.

He's not the same man he once was, as sad as it is to say.

The Ghoul
03-16-2006, 01:16 AM
maybe they will bring back mosh and thrash too lol or they could bring back savio vega and i really wish they would bring in buff bagwell he was awesome

ThE HeaDBaNgeRs FUUCCK YEAH
Mosh worked & was champ for an indie promottion here called MXPW(maximum pro wrestling) he goes by Chaz & he looks kinda the same but he wears a Slipknot shirt (concedently I have the same one)

Twitch
03-16-2006, 06:19 AM
That theme rocked.I wnat ithttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:

Twitch here's your avvy

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5922/12gv.gif

There bring Henry back to job to Trpis so he can get his hogpen loss back:(

Sexy :up:

LastSunrise1981
03-16-2006, 10:31 AM
Why are we bringing in HBK's religious faith? Last I checked we were talking about Rock vs. HBK,which has nothing to do with religion and the match probably won't ever happen. And why is HBK being considered an ass for something that probably happened 10 years ago between him and Dwayne Johnson? The guy gets enough **** thrown at him when he refuses to put egomaniacs (cough..Hogan..cough) over and blamed for not actually being a born again christian. I'm not calling Rock an egomaniac,and hey,I love the Rock,but even I admit his Hollywood career (which has sucked) has gone to his head.

But,I'm not going to continue with this because these types of arguements always get ugly,so I'll shut it.

Because Assassin was the one who mentioned him being a fake born again Christian. No one else mentioned it but him, so in hind-sight you should be snapping at him and not at everyone else. :) :up:

Jason Blood
03-16-2006, 06:50 PM
moore was actually pretty good when i saw him on TNA a few weeks back
He's a great wrestler

I was so happy when TNA made Styles job to him

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 07:04 PM
He's a great wrestler

I was so happy when TNA made Styles job to himEh, he's kind of a spot monkey sometimes. Styles is superior to him in like, every way. :o

The Ghoul
03-16-2006, 07:17 PM
Eh, he's kind of a spot monkey sometimes. Styles is superior to him in like, every way. :o

AJ is a HUGE spot guy. I barley see any phsycology in his matches, unless they're with Raven, Joe, or Daniels

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 07:32 PM
AJ is a HUGE spot guy. I barley see any phsycology in his matches, unless they're with Raven, Joe, or DanielsHis matches with Sydal, Abyss, (and I'd hate to admit it) Jarrett prove that he's more than a contrived flippy flop spot monkey. Plus the ones you've mentioned, and matches from earlier in his career that I can't think of.

Jason Blood
03-16-2006, 07:33 PM
AJ Styles has no mic skills

Moore was in 3 Count

NUFF SAID

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 07:34 PM
AJ can talk a decent game if you get over his accent. Sure, he's not Triple H or the Rock or Jericho when it comes to cutting promos, but he isn't Jay Lethal bad and his heel promos are especially good.

Eric Draven
03-16-2006, 07:37 PM
He kinda talks like a fratboy as a heel :(

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 07:39 PM
He kinda talks like a fratboy as a heel :(You're right, but that's part of what I like. It's a ton more interesting than promos he cuts when he's a face.

Eric Draven
03-16-2006, 07:40 PM
Yeah, I suppose. A heel turn would be great for AJ, but I bet if he turns, he'll probably join Jarrett's stable of 75 percent of the TNA roster :(

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 07:42 PM
Yeah, I suppose. A heel turn would be great for AJ, but I bet if he turns, he'll probably join Jarrett's stable of 75 percent of the TNA roster :(That would be better than another match with Daniels or Joe. He could actually salvage the credibility of "Planet Jarrett". :o

Eric Draven
03-16-2006, 07:44 PM
I could probably stand it more if Jarrett's group just had Jarrett, AMW, and AJ. The four main components of TNA from the early days and the group that could get the three titles. There's really no point in putting Abyss, Monty Brown, Team Canada, etc in the group because then it just gets nWo-huge.

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 07:46 PM
I could probably stand it more if Jarrett's group just had Jarrett, AMW, and AJ. The four main components of TNA from the early days and the group that could get the three titles. There's really no point in putting Abyss, Monty Brown, Team Canada, etc in the group because then it just gets nWo-huge.Especially since guys like Abyss and Monty all want what Jarrett wants anyways. It would make sense if Jarrett could stand to have an ally with the strap that wasn't him...but that would be totally out of character for Jarrett. Plus, putting monster guys like Abyss with managers like Jim Mitchell in a stable never works out kayfabe-wise...so the whole group is going to suffer some predictable booking in the next few months.

Assassin
03-16-2006, 07:51 PM
i'm still not upset about the prime time :p

Sarge 2.0
03-16-2006, 08:37 PM
I don't know how you can't be. A promising federation is now going to die because Spike TV destroys pro wrestling. ECW, Raw, you name it, they've killed it. I love UFC...but building the rest of your timeslot around it is just dumbtarded. :down

The Ghoul
03-16-2006, 09:18 PM
AJ Styles has no mic skills

Moore was in 3 Count

NUFF SAID

Holy ****! LIGHTBULB! WWE MUST MUST MUST MUST hire Evan Karagious now that Moore is back & Helms is like a solid spot as SD! #4 heel. Yes I am, right now, discussing the idea a CW stable being the reunited 3 count... only I think in 2006 nobody gives a **** about boy-bands anymore, but god in 2000 they were the one of 2 original cool things to come out of "that"-era WCW (the other being Daffney... & the subsiquential hard-on that wouldn't go away between july of 99 to march of 01)


dumbtarded.

I am so ****ing stealing that word

Eric Draven
03-16-2006, 09:43 PM
3 Count is so amazing, it managed to make Tank Abbott slightly entertaining :confused:

Colossal Spoons
03-17-2006, 03:25 PM
Could I be any less excited about the 6 Man Tag match tonight? I dunno why, but Mark Henry just makes all matches a chore for me. If it were Batista vs The Rock vs Henry; it'd still feel annoyed by Henry's presence.

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 03:32 PM
I agree with you Spoons.

Plus, Benoit vs. Jordan...AGAIN. Ugh.

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 03:34 PM
MNM(best tag team in the world),Orton,Rey and Angle are in the match along with a proper big man worker who will only have minimal spots and ppl are moaning ?:confused:

The FallenAngel
03-17-2006, 03:38 PM
I've heard quite a few people call MNM the best team in the world right now. I can unserstand where they come from as those guys are really good workers, and can make pretty much anyone look good. I don't agree though. I personally think Aries/Strong are the best, but that's just because I love their hard-hitting style so much. Just personal taste I guess.

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 03:54 PM
MNM have done NOTHING to earn that honor.

While I think they are some good workers and have had some decent matches, but to do that, they'd really need to have some MOTYC quality matches. Consistent and awesome title defenses and memorable title wins. MNM hasn't done this. AMW has. The Steiner Bros. have. The Road Warriors have. The Hart Foundation has. The Briscoes have. And now Strong and Aries have.

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 03:57 PM
MNM have done NOTHING to earn that honor.

While I think they are some good workers and have had some decent matches, but to do that, they'd really need to have some MOTYC quality matches. Consistent and awesome title defenses and memorable title wins. MNM hasn't done this. AMW has. The Steiner Bros. have. The Road Warriors have. The Hart Foundation has. The Briscoes have. And now Strong and Aries have.I haven't seen Strong and Aries do anything on the level of any of the tag teams that you mentioned. MNM are excellent tag workers, a real throwback to the Hollywood Blondes.

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 03:58 PM
MNM have consistently carried crap to ***+ matches,it takes a lot more to make Batista look good and shine in a division with no other good teams than it does to throw some midgets in ROH around the ring for 20 minutes
AMW are lame,they map their matches out into repetitive spotfests and don't deserve to be mentioned in the saem line as The Harts,Road Warriors or Steiners

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 04:01 PM
I haven't seen Strong and Aries do anything on the level of any of the tag teams that you mentioned. MNM are excellent tag workers, a real throwback to the Hollywood Blondes.

Try watching Steel Cage Warfare or Tag Team Wars sometimes. Easily better than ANYTHING MNM have done.

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 04:03 PM
Try watching Steel Cage Warfare or Tag Team Wars sometimes. Easily better than ANYTHING MNM have done.I have watched Steel Cage Warfare. Kind of formulaic and predictable, with some nice spots from Jack Evans and Sydal. That doesn't say anything about Strong and Aries, though. MNM have proven to be a fluid, coheisive tag team that could save the pathetic WWE tag division. They're on the level of the tag teams from the early 2000's division with the Hardy Boyz, the Dudley Boyz, and E+C. They just need better tag teams to face, and they can carry a good match as it is.

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 04:06 PM
They aren't saving the pathetic tag team division in WWE.

Its still in the toilet and its still pathetic.

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 04:08 PM
They aren't saving the pathetic tag team division in WWE.

Its still in the toilet and its still pathetic.Notice that I said that they could save the tag division in WWE. Could.

Of course, being blindly cynical and dismissing everything put out by the company is the only way to go, right?

Colossal Spoons
03-17-2006, 04:11 PM
MNM(best tag team in the world),Orton,Rey and Angle are in the match along with a proper big man worker who will only have minimal spots and ppl are moaning ?:confused:

Oh, I agree with you that there's going to be a heap of talent in the ring(and Henry). I just don't know how well they'll work together

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 04:12 PM
The MNM vs Batista/Rey matches were great and were far superior to any tag wrestling going on anywhere else
Their matches with the mexicools and Spanky/London were also great

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 04:14 PM
Oh, I agree with you that there's going to be a heap of talent in the ring(and Henry). I just don't know how well they'll work together

Well Henry i think will fit in with his minimal way as usual,doing a couple of cut off spots and taking a big bump

The FallenAngel
03-17-2006, 04:14 PM
Their match with Spanky/London was one of the best I've seen. Fantastic stuff. I just wish Spanky and London got more of a push in the Tag Division.

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 04:16 PM
MNM's matches or feuds have in no way measured up to say, XXX vs. AMW, the greatest tag team wrestling feud in the modern era of wrestling.

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 04:17 PM
MNM's matches or feuds have in no way measured up to say, XXX vs. AMW, the greatest tag team wrestling feud in the modern era of wrestling.You don't think that's just a little bit hyperbolic?

Not even a little?

The FallenAngel
03-17-2006, 04:19 PM
That's just because MNM hasn't been put up against any real credible tag teams. Just guys thrown together, mostly. It doesn't matter though. They still carry people to great, entertaining matches.

Colossal Spoons
03-17-2006, 04:21 PM
I wonder how the old TLC days wold have been if MNM had gotten to participate?

Dudleys vs Hardys vs E&C vs MNM

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 04:25 PM
MNM's matches or feuds have in no way measured up to say, XXX vs. AMW, the greatest tag team wrestling feud in the modern era of wrestling.

lol,seriously did the E&C/Hardy's/Dudleys feud not happen:confused:

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 04:42 PM
It happened. But that people rarely talk about it anymore proves how overrated it was, :p .

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 04:44 PM
It happened. But that people rarely talk about it anymore proves how overrated it was, :p .I hope you're not serious...'cause it's referenced like...all the time. :confused:

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 04:51 PM
No one ever talked about AMW/XXX:confused: and ill get the Egypt map:up:

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 04:53 PM
I don't see it being talked about all the time really.

And I personally feel the TLC matches got more praise when they happened then they really deserved. The original Edge/Christian vs. Hardyz ladder match is a truly underrated one IMHO. This was at No Mercy 1999. I feel this was a better match than TLC 1 and 2. As well as the WM 2000 match.

Colossal Spoons
03-17-2006, 04:53 PM
I can't think of another WWE/F tag feud that's given TLC competition in the last 10 years.

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 04:59 PM
TLC 2 at WM17 was so far ahead of all other tag matches in the last 8 years it is scary

The FallenAngel
03-17-2006, 05:00 PM
I love that spot where Edge hit the Spear on Jeff while he was hanging on the belts. Absolutely amazing. :up:

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 07:06 PM
That spot originated from the No Mercy 1999 ladder match FYI.

I was there live at TLC II. The match is overrated. What ticked me off the most was all the run-ins. Rhyno runs in and basically wins the match for Christian and Edge.

The FallenAngel
03-17-2006, 07:07 PM
I've never seen the ladder match from No Mercy 1999. Sounds like a good one, though. I'll have to look for it.

punishermax
03-17-2006, 07:12 PM
I've never seen the ladder match from No Mercy 1999. Sounds like a good one, though. I'll have to look for it.
It is, if you look for it, it's not a tag title match, it's a ladder match for the services of Terri.

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 07:15 PM
This thread is cracking me up,the three run ins were part of a spot match,one for each team and made total sense
I can never understand why ppl moan about run ins in a worked sport:confused:

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 07:16 PM
Edge/Christian and The Hardyz had two ladder matches. The one at No Mercy 1999, and a second one in September of 2000. It was the first ever episode of WWF RAW on then TNN, The National Network, now Spike TV.

Both matches were better and more coherent than TLC 1 and 2. They are very underrated as well.

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 07:17 PM
This thread is cracking me up,the three run ins were part of a spot match,one for each team and made total sense
I can never understand why ppl moan about run ins in a worked sport:confused:

I didn't like that. I just wanted these 3 teams to settle their issues once and for all. No Rhyno, No Lita, no Spike.

Hunter Rider
03-17-2006, 07:21 PM
I didn't like that. I just wanted these 3 teams to settle their issues once and for all. No Rhyno, No Lita, no Spike.

That was part of the story though,each team had an ally and all got involved and it really doesnt matter in a spot match,if it were some mat classic one on one for the world title then yes but not in a TLC and no way were either of the basic ladder matches anywhere near the quality of TLC 2,The Dudleys added a lot more to the matches

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 07:27 PM
I personally don't care for TLC matches very much. And I still believe the ladder matches are very underrated.

In fact, I'd say the 1999 one was a rare gem in a year of crappy and horrid wrestling.

Go Web Go!
03-17-2006, 09:06 PM
Has Burchill shown up yet on SD tonight?

Capt Throbberson
03-17-2006, 09:13 PM
Matt jobs again

Even if he is still going to MITB

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 09:17 PM
Yes. He and Kristal defeated Jillian and Regal in a mixed tag match. Burchill got the pin on Regal.

Capt Throbberson
03-17-2006, 09:21 PM
After doing the C-4

Eklypze
03-17-2006, 09:23 PM
the c4 is like the best move anyone has in wwe

NDX
03-17-2006, 09:25 PM
Why the hell are we being forced to experience Orlando Jordan and Chris Benoit again? Hell, at all?

Capt Throbberson
03-17-2006, 09:33 PM
Did they scrap that whole bi-sexual thing?

NDX
03-17-2006, 09:43 PM
So far there has been no sign of his storyline, so at the moment it seems to have either been put on hiatus or scrapped.

Maybe this is a sign that Jordon is one of the next stars to be cut.

TheVileOne
03-17-2006, 10:09 PM
Why the hell are we being forced to experience Orlando Jordan and Chris Benoit again? Hell, at all?
Because WWE sucks like that NDX. For instance, when Benoit first won the US title, in WWE he only defended it against ORLANDO F'N JORDAN on Smackdown in crappy, horrible squash matches on TV.

When Benoit finally has a GREAT US title defense its against Regal...on the wwe website. Umm...BS.

As for the bi-sexual thing, it was either scrapped or they are delaying it.

As for Jordan, the only reason his useless ass was not fired last summer was because he was US champion. Why he got to hold it so long and a great worker like Haas is fired. I have no idea.

The FallenAngel
03-17-2006, 10:42 PM
Anyone have a good Homicide CAW for SvR06 that I can get? I've been looking but can't find one.

NDX
03-17-2006, 11:28 PM
Credit: PWInsider.com

As you can see, WWE have been bringing back several wrestlers from the past as of late. WWE aren't going after all these people just so TNA doesn't have them. WWE are bringing back the likes of Henry Godwin, Mark Jindrak, Chuck Palumbo and Test because management have been ordered to bring in some big, tall, imposing wrestlers, and these particular wrestlers fit the bill.

The new WWE Wellness program seems to have played a factor in this move. Some wrestlers are going to get smaller as they cycle off of whatever they were using in the next few weeks and months. However, WWE still wants to have big, monster-like wrestlers on their roster, which is why wrestlers like Test and Henry Godwin may be brought back. Also, WWE are contacting several other name wrestlers from the past for tryouts, so stay tuned in the next few weeks to see who WWE might bring back for a return.

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 11:32 PM
I'm suprised that they didn't try to entice Jeff Hardy into coming back, considering his current three strikes status with TNA. They could always offer him a bigger contract, and have him quit TNA when his contract there goes kaput after his suspension. Not that I want Jeff Hardy back or anything, but I think it's odd that they would rehire Test and Palumbo before him.

NDX
03-17-2006, 11:40 PM
WWE probably just does not want to deal with his **** at all and just let TNA work through it.

Credit: PWInsider.com

Rene Dupree and The Bashams were recently offered new deals from WWE. There is no word yet if they have signed them though. This should be refreshing news for these individuals because there were rumors that WWE were looking to cut several wrestlers this month. Also, it didn't help matters that WWE are currently looking to bring in a parade of big, imposing veteran wrestlers and well, Dupree & The Bashams have been kept off television for several months.

Dupree has been out the past several months due to an injured hernia. He's wrestled on a few OVW shows though. Doug Basham has wrestled sparingly on some Smackdown house shows the past few months, but has yet to be brought back to TV for some unknown reason. He's been off television since September. Danny Basham was traded to the Raw brand last June. Although, he didn't make an appearance on television until September. He wrestled a jobber on an episode of Sunday Night Heat in some sort of goth gimmick. That was his one and only TV appearance on the Raw brand and he hasn't been seen on television since. Danny has wrestled on a few Raw brand house shows since then, however, he's been kept off the road for the most part for some unknown reason.

Sarge 2.0
03-17-2006, 11:46 PM
This whole thing with wrestlers not wrestling or not appearing on TV for no reason is starting to bug me. It all seems like certain lowcarders have just fell off the face of the earth after the September/October period. Weird stuff.

Eric Draven
03-17-2006, 11:51 PM
With all these returns, could we see Matt Morgan return as well soon? Or even Sean O'Haire?

NDX
03-17-2006, 11:58 PM
Rene Dupree I was hoping to see cut. I haven't really enjoyed his matches over time. And the Bashams were only entertaining as a team (in the WWE). So I'm a bit surprised to see them offered new contracts after all this time nowhere to be seen.

What I just read is that Henry O Godwin looked pretty bad at a recent OVW TV taping, since he has had very few matches since his retirement in 1998 due to the neck injury. Surprised that WWE would even consider bringing him back.

LastSunrise1981
03-18-2006, 12:02 AM
With all these returns, could we see Matt Morgan return as well soon? Or even Sean O'Haire?

Doubt it. They totally dropped the ball on Sean O'Haire and I was very disappointed at what they did to him. He had the perfect gimmick, great mic skills, talent, and was very agile for a man his size.

His WCW stuff is amazing and I hope he goes to TNA. He's too good for the WWE and he was dumped down in my opinion.

I take that back, I hope he doesn't go to TNA with Steiner there and Jarrett about to hog the spotlight again. Only way I'd like to see him go to TNA was if Jarrett wasn't there.

3dman27
03-18-2006, 09:49 AM
or MOLLY HOLLY?

Sabretooth
03-18-2006, 10:01 AM
Ya know,after watching the Raw recap show today,I realize Cena got some pretty good offense in that tag team match. I think WWE is forcing him to dumb down his skills.

The Batman
03-18-2006, 11:24 AM
Ya know,after watching the Raw recap show today,I realize Cena got some pretty good offense in that tag team match. I think WWE is forcing him to dumb down his skills.

I thought the same exact thing.

I think come WM, Cena will start busting out moves out of nowhere, shocking the announcers and the crowd.

Colossal Spoons
03-18-2006, 11:26 AM
I guess WWE needs "tall imposing" guys to give Kane/Show competition for their belts. Move over Snitsky and Tomko.

I'll hold my breath for Albert and Nathan Jones

The Ghoul
03-18-2006, 07:48 PM
I don't see it being talked about all the time really.

And I personally feel the TLC matches got more praise when they happened then they really deserved. The original Edge/Christian vs. Hardyz ladder match is a truly underrated one IMHO. This was at No Mercy 1999. I feel this was a better match than TLC 1 and 2. As well as the WM 2000 match.

Underrated?!... that match was MOTY 99 & the bluebrint for the TLC match. I'd say it has the proper credit it deserved

TheVileOne
03-18-2006, 08:04 PM
I'm severely disappointed Benoit is nowhere on the SNME card. Instead we get f'n Boogeyman and JBL drinking beer. And TnA crap. Spew.

Eklypze
03-18-2006, 08:04 PM
its gonna be a slobberknocker

NDX
03-18-2006, 08:09 PM
Even though Benoit is not on the show, this is the first time I've been excited about a televised wrestling program since WrestleMania 21.

WWE really needs to cut out the ****ing fireworks. Too much ****ing smoke.

The Techno Bat
03-18-2006, 08:15 PM
Of course HHH is the first wrestler out on SNME...

Eric Draven
03-18-2006, 08:15 PM
Isn't Benoit probably going to show up for the beer drinking contest to attack JBL? :confused:


And I can't believe I just noticed this, but Kurt Angle looks kinda thin.....

The Ghoul
03-18-2006, 08:18 PM
I think the SNME set is the most bad ass thiing ever I love that they use the entire dome as a (music video only) screen.

NDX
03-18-2006, 08:20 PM
Wow, what a cluster**** of an opener.

The Ghoul
03-18-2006, 08:21 PM
****ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull********ing Bull****

First: That RKO/rollup was so awful looking
Second: Cena's going to win WM & probebly lose at Backlash

TheVileOne
03-18-2006, 08:29 PM
Isn't Benoit probably going to show up for the beer drinking contest to attack JBL? :confused:


And I can't believe I just noticed this, but Kurt Angle looks kinda thin.....

I could care less. Benoit should be defending his f'n title on this show.

Instead...Boogeyman vs. Booker T and a lame opening match, spew :down .

Sarge 2.0
03-18-2006, 08:31 PM
I could care less. Benoit should be defending his f'n title on this show.

Instead...Boogeyman vs. Booker T and a lame opening match, spew :down .Couldn't care less.*

You should see a couciler for this negativity thing. It's kind of socially crippling. :o

TheVileOne
03-18-2006, 08:32 PM
Sarge2.0, why don't you go cry in a bag of money?

Sarge 2.0
03-18-2006, 08:40 PM
Sarge2.0, why don't you go cry in a bag of money?That sounds like a good idea, because I wouldn't turn down a bag of money for anything. :o:confused:

The Ghoul
03-18-2006, 08:46 PM
I wanna cry too share that money bag

NDX
03-18-2006, 09:12 PM
So, the women's match is match number what on SNME? I lost count.

Colossal Spoons
03-18-2006, 09:20 PM
Who ever saw that Chick kick coming? :rolleyes:

The Techno Bat
03-18-2006, 09:20 PM
You want to know what is really pathetic? When another wrestler uses another wrestler's finishing move and does it better. EXAMPLE, when Trish hit the Stratusfaction on Victoria it was pretty weak, but when Mickie James nailed Trish with The Stratusfaction it was really solid and well done. I hope Mickie beats Trish @ WM for the Title

Sarge 2.0
03-18-2006, 09:37 PM
Haha, **** yeah Undertaker! :mad::up:

The Techno Bat
03-18-2006, 09:43 PM
^ Rob Zombie RULES! What do you think of his new song? I like it

NDX
03-18-2006, 09:44 PM
I am no longer excited about the program. Lets hope Shane v. HBK will be good.

... This spot better happen.

The Techno Bat
03-18-2006, 09:45 PM
WHAT A SICK BUMP BY SHANE AND HBK! ! !

punishermax
03-18-2006, 09:47 PM
Holy ****ing Dognuts **** Batman!

LastSunrise1981
03-18-2006, 09:48 PM
HOLY ****!!!! Did anyone see that table bump involving Shane and Shawn? :eek:

Colossal Spoons
03-18-2006, 09:50 PM
Saturday Night Wrestlemania Hype is what this should be called.

Sarge 2.0
03-18-2006, 10:00 PM
That's the purpose of the show, anyways. Good buildup if you ask me. Except for that whole Cena roll up on Orton thing. Ugh.

Sabretooth
03-18-2006, 10:02 PM
I totally saw that ending coming. In the beginning of the McMahon feud I posted something about Shane screwing Shawn like Shawn screwed Bret.

And yes,that bump was ****ing sick.

On another note,NO CENA HEEL TURN???? RAGHH! :mad:

LastSunrise1981
03-18-2006, 10:02 PM
Wow. What a way to sell a Van-Terminator Vince. :rolleyes:

What a lame way to end a show. Hey Vince, what about that General Manager you were talking about? I think seeing you on Monday all the time is becoming a bit stale, boring, and very vomit inducing if you ask me.

Vince gets a Van-Terminator and miraclously he's up in no time to screw up a finish. :rolleyes:

I didn't see the beginning match though. Did Cena come off like Superman again?

Eric Draven
03-18-2006, 10:05 PM
Ugh, what a horrible finish to a decent enough street fight. I swear, this Shawn-Vince "feud" is probably the most lopsided feud since the nWo first came around :down

Sabretooth
03-18-2006, 10:05 PM
Wow. What a way to sell a Van-Terminator Vince. :rolleyes:

What a lame way to end a show. Hey Vince, what about that General Manager you were talking about? I think seeing you on Monday all the time is becoming a bit stale, boring, and very vomit inducing if you ask me.

Vince gets a Van-Terminator and miraclously he's up in no time to screw up a finish. :rolleyes:

I didn't see the beginning match though. Did Cena come off like Superman again?
Hard to concentrate on the actual match when there were deafening boos for Cena and chants of ''Cena sucks'' ;)

LastSunrise1981
03-18-2006, 10:11 PM
Hard to concentrate on the actual match when there were deafening boos for Cena and chants of ''Cena sucks'' ;)

Did Triple H show the fans, Angle, Edge, and Jericho how to play the heel who gets booed? ;)

If not then what a way to show us and the other wrestlers H. :) ;)

Sabretooth
03-18-2006, 10:14 PM
Did Triple H show the fans, Angle, Edge, and Jericho how to play the heel who gets booed? ;)

If not then what a way to show us and the other wrestlers H. :) ;)
Well,he at least somewhat got booed after he pedigreed Rey Mysterio,but other than that he got very big pops.

Sarge 2.0
03-18-2006, 10:24 PM
Ugh, what a horrible finish to a decent enough street fight. I swear, this Shawn-Vince "feud" is probably the most lopsided feud since the nWo first came around :downIf shaking his ass, hogging screen time, and overall kicking the legacy of HBK in the nads is his way to send off Shawn, I'll be more disgusted with him than I already am. And that will be quite an accomplishment.

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 09:35 AM
Heh, I loving killing threads.

Anyhoo, does anyone have Samoa Joe v. Raven (with Mick Foley as special guest referee) from the Warrior-1 Pro Wrestling Supershow (6/25/05)?

The FallenAngel
03-19-2006, 10:48 AM
Get your dates right, fool! :mad:

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 10:54 AM
**** you! :mad:

One damn number. :o

NDX
03-19-2006, 12:41 PM
Holy ****, I had no idea Johnny Candido was the NWA Midwest Heavyweight Champion.

I wonder if he won it on name recognition alone, or if he has developed good skills recently. The few matches I have seen him in were cluter****s that really did not showcase anyone's talent.

Hunter Rider
03-19-2006, 01:45 PM
John Cena vs American Dragon Brian Danielson

http://www.sendspace.com/file/z5je9b (http://www.sendspace.com/file/z5je9b)

The FallenAngel
03-19-2006, 02:01 PM
Holy crap... I can't believe that match ever happened.

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 02:07 PM
What fed was it in?

NDX
03-19-2006, 02:07 PM
Okay, I have to download this one for myself.

Hell, I actually can, too.

Twitch
03-19-2006, 02:09 PM
John Cena vs American Dragon Brian Danielson

http://www.sendspace.com/file/z5je9b (http://www.sendspace.com/file/z5je9b)

WTF :eek::confused:

The FallenAngel
03-19-2006, 02:10 PM
Wow...I can't believe I'm about to say this but, it was kind of enjoyable to watch that. Dragon carried him, but it was enjoyable.

NDX
03-19-2006, 02:13 PM
I loathe dialup. I really want to see this, too.

The FallenAngel
03-19-2006, 02:14 PM
What fed was it in?WWE.

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 02:16 PM
WWE.Fo' serious? :eek:

Now I have to download it.

NDX
03-19-2006, 03:04 PM
Damn, wish that match was longer. It was pretty entertaining, watching Danielson kick Cena in the head.

Assassin
03-19-2006, 04:23 PM
well i was at SNME last night, and it was awsome. But i can see why you guys hated it, when i went home to watch the tape, it was boring.


It was great live and you really do miss alot during the commercial breaks. It was also recorded at 6 30 eastern time, so it wasnt live. we also got a Carlito vs Big show match in the begining. Bigshow won

the promos they cut during the breaks are the best.

and john cena was booed in the begining but it stoped pretty quick when RKO hit rey mysterio, every one wated randy to loose so the chants started for Cena

Assassin
03-19-2006, 04:29 PM
The funny part is at the end of the show when every one is leaving. there were 2 ppl passing out tna flyers, they were holding up the line, a few ppl took them, but every one got so pissed the started taking them and crumpling them up and throwing them back at the guy, i was righ behind him and he kept stoping, i pushed him out of my way and said **** TNA, get the **** out of my way. TNA is okay..but you dont do that, thats ****ed up.

Outside i saw flyers for ROH, so i picked one up and i actually might go, main even its samoa Joe vs Christopher Danials. Its on March 30th

I didnt have a proble with the ROH because they were outside of the arena, TNA were actually in the arena, and littering, and blocking traffic.

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 04:33 PM
well i was at SNME last night, and it was awsome. But i can see why you guys hated it, when i went home to watch the tape, it was boring.


It was great live and you really do miss alot during the commercial breaks. It was also recorded at 6 30 eastern time, so it wasnt live. we also got a Carlito vs Big show match in the begining. Bigshow won

the promos they cut during the breaks are the best.

and john cena was booed in the begining but it stoped pretty quick when RKO hit rey mysterio, every one wated randy to loose so the chants started for CenaI didn't hate it. The ending sucked, but I thought the rest of the event was pretty good.

NDX
03-19-2006, 04:34 PM
I found this mildly amusing.


From WorldWrestlingInsanity.com

Matt Dawgs Intercepts a Vince McMahon Memo to WWE's Creative Team

By Matt Dawgs

Mar 18, 2006, 16:21


Inter-office Memorandum

Date: 14 March 2006
To: The WWE writing team/creative staff
Subject: The New adventures of old characters

Good afternoon all,

As you all know, Wrestlemania is just a few short weeks away and normally, after Mania passes, we choose to take the company in a new direction. Wrestlemania is the beginning of the WWE creative year; the New Years Day for the creative team. That being said, World Wrestling Entertainment has decided to go in a new direction post Wrestlemania. We have decided to refresh the “older storylines” with “older talent” that we plan on bringing back into the fold. Now I am sure some of you are questioning why we are bringing in older talent back into the mix. It is simple; the younger guys just aren’t cutting the mustard. Contrary to the b.s. we feed to the fans about John Cena being the next breakout star, the truth is these young guys these days just can’t cut the mustard like the grizzled “Superstars™” of yesteryear can. WWE needs a spark underneath it. A type of spark that can re-ignite the fire inside the bellies of the fans and bring back their passion for the wrestling business. We need good old fashion wrestlers who know how to play characters and tell a story in the ring. Psychological geniuses when it comes to taking the fans on an emotional rollercoaster from beginning to end. Superstars who can take the creative genius we come up with for them and carry it to that next level. Such “Superstars™” like Chuck Palumbo.

If it wasn’t for some financial problems the company was undergoing, good old “Custom” Chucky P was well on his way to the “Big Time®©™”. Chucky was in touch with what the fans were in touch with. His connection with the fans through cars that rolled on “dubs” and had phat systems and tints was something untouched by other wrestlers. He knew how to connect on that visceral level. Plus, his in ring ability was unparalleled by other stars his size. When Chuck Palumbo, a man with such range as a performer, stepped into a ring; you knew it was time for a solid match. Prior to that, when he was with Billy Gunn, he showed his acting ability. Do you think if we would have written a ambiguously homosexual character like that for Bobby Lashley, he would have been able to run with it? Never.

You want more examples? How bout Test? Andrew “Test” Martin, a former bodyguard for Motley Crew, stepped up his game when he stepped into the squared circle. He had the agility of a cat when he wrestled. A man, who was a legit six foot nine, two hundred seventy five pounds of muscle, made you believe he not only could kick ass, but fly with the best of them. His work was not only believable, but so was his look. If you were walking through an airport and you saw Test standing next to that Mexican kid on Smackdown, Peter London, you would easily think that Test was a man and London was his girlfriend. Let me ask a hypothetical question, if Test walked up to you and smacked you in the mouth, what would you do? That’s right, nothing. Take it like a little *****. But if London walked up to you and smacked you, you would whip that little pansies ass. Correct? Yes, I know it is. But I digress as I am getting off topic here.

We have a ton of names that we plan on bringing back into the fold. Names of men who not only look like wrestlers, but are wrestlers. Not like these high flying Lucha X Libre division midgets that our competitor others present; but real men with real bodies that look like they can kick ass.

These are also men who aren’t afraid to show their inner selves; Henry O. Godwin for example. The man is a hog farmer. So what did he want to be when he first debuted for the then WWF? He wanted to be a hog farmer. He wanted to show the world that hog farmers were tough too. Not just men in overalls who rolled around in pig ****. No! A tough pig **** rolling man who can kick ass.

How about Rikishi Fatu? He is a Samoan. We all know that Samoans are tough guys. Samoans are men who can go undefeated and choke people out. Samoans are guys who can consistently deliver five star matches with a variety of opponents in a variety of matches. Samoans who can be pushed like monsters and stay undefeated by pin fall or submission since their debuts. GOD DAMN IT, WHY DIDN’T WE HIRE HIM. Did you just type that? I was thinking out loud, I didn’t want you to type that? DAMN IT, YOU”RE FIRED. I wish Beth was still here, she took much better dictation that you do. What are you still doing here? Pack your **** and leave; I will finish my own damn memo.

So, what was I saying before I fired my newest personal assistant for insubordination? Oh yes, Rikishi Fatu. Here is a man who connected with the crowd. From being a guy from the streets who wore a diaper to the ring, he and the fans had a bond. Not the fake type of bond that we try to recapture with John Cena, but a real one.

This is what we want to get through to our talent and make them understand. The older talent we had understood the power of the WWE machine. They knew how to listen and comprehend the stuff written for them. They were capable of taking the gimmicks we created and run with them. Nowadays, these so-called “Superstars™” take the gold we create and turn it into ****. I can run off a list of names that could have had money coming out of their ass had they not blown it. Such terrific creations like “The Con Man” Rob Conway, Simon Dean, The Basham Brothers, Mohammed Hassan, Heidenreich the poet, and I am sure that there are others. I cannot continue wasting good ideas on people who are not capable of carrying the ball. I am sick and tired of our performers under delivering when we hand off the magic to them.

I think it may have to do with the fact that none of these guys are larger than life men. The men who are larger than life, they are able to carry the ball once we hand it off to them. A perfect example of this is the Boogeyman. We handed him an opportunity to become a star and he has carried himself like one. He has taken the ball and raised it to new heights. That is what I call a character. Our fresh ideas can last a lifetime, those who can perform them, they are one in a million.

That is the exact reason I plan on bringing back the older “Superstars™” of yesteryear. That is why, beginning after Wrestlemania, our new campaign for the New Year is:

WWE: WHAT’S OLD IS NEW AGAIN.

http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.com/artman/uploads/wwe_slogan1.jpg


That is going to replace the old slogan of “THE POWER IS BACK”

I hope you all enjoy it now get to the writing and make sure you get some cutting edge storylines involving our new talent. I am not one hundred percent sure who we are hiring back yet so just log onto http://www.wwe.com (http://www.wwe.com/) for more details.




Best Regards,



Vincent Kennedy McMahon

Vincent Kennedy McMahon
Chairman and CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment

CC: Stephanie McMahon-Levesque
Jean-Paul Levesque

The FallenAngel
03-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Hahaha. That's pretty funny.

Assassin
03-19-2006, 05:21 PM
i dont like anti wwe, but anti vince is fine with me.

TheVileOne
03-19-2006, 05:43 PM
The funny part is at the end of the show when every one is leaving. there were 2 ppl passing out tna flyers, they were holding up the line, a few ppl took them, but every one got so pissed the started taking them and crumpling them up and throwing them back at the guy, i was righ behind him and he kept stoping, i pushed him out of my way and said **** TNA, get the **** out of my way. TNA is okay..but you dont do that, thats ****ed up.

Outside i saw flyers for ROH, so i picked one up and i actually might go, main even its samoa Joe vs Christopher Danials. Its on March 30th

I didnt have a proble with the ROH because they were outside of the arena, TNA were actually in the arena, and littering, and blocking traffic.
So its ok to pass out ROH flyers, but not TNA flyers?

Assassin
03-19-2006, 05:52 PM
ROH werent passed out. They were placed outside on a deck where flyers are normally put.

Assassin
03-19-2006, 05:56 PM
plus they were advertising a show in detroit, it was actually spent money on, expensive thick paper, about a quarter sheet, it was double sided, with the main event card (w/ pictures) on it plus who's appearing. TNA ppl were passing out black and white paper flyers and yelling out watch the better brand on spike tv and the flyer had the symbol and spike tv with time listings and a pic of jeff jarret holding the title.

TheVileOne
03-19-2006, 06:18 PM
Yeah well, that's what the street team does. Between the TNA house show and SNME, I would've rather have gone to the house show.

ROH and WWE seem to have some sort of agreement going on.

Sabretooth
03-19-2006, 06:20 PM
I found this mildly amusing.


From WorldWrestlingInsanity.com

Matt Dawgs Intercepts a Vince McMahon Memo to WWE's Creative Team

By Matt Dawgs

Mar 18, 2006, 16:21


Inter-office Memorandum

Date: 14 March 2006
To: The WWE writing team/creative staff
Subject: The New adventures of old characters

Good afternoon all,

As you all know, Wrestlemania is just a few short weeks away and normally, after Mania passes, we choose to take the company in a new direction. Wrestlemania is the beginning of the WWE creative year; the New Years Day for the creative team. That being said, World Wrestling Entertainment has decided to go in a new direction post Wrestlemania. We have decided to refresh the “older storylines” with “older talent” that we plan on bringing back into the fold. Now I am sure some of you are questioning why we are bringing in older talent back into the mix. It is simple; the younger guys just aren’t cutting the mustard. Contrary to the b.s. we feed to the fans about John Cena being the next breakout star, the truth is these young guys these days just can’t cut the mustard like the grizzled “Superstars™” of yesteryear can. WWE needs a spark underneath it. A type of spark that can re-ignite the fire inside the bellies of the fans and bring back their passion for the wrestling business. We need good old fashion wrestlers who know how to play characters and tell a story in the ring. Psychological geniuses when it comes to taking the fans on an emotional rollercoaster from beginning to end. Superstars who can take the creative genius we come up with for them and carry it to that next level. Such “Superstars™” like Chuck Palumbo.

If it wasn’t for some financial problems the company was undergoing, good old “Custom” Chucky P was well on his way to the “Big Time®©™”. Chucky was in touch with what the fans were in touch with. His connection with the fans through cars that rolled on “dubs” and had phat systems and tints was something untouched by other wrestlers. He knew how to connect on that visceral level. Plus, his in ring ability was unparalleled by other stars his size. When Chuck Palumbo, a man with such range as a performer, stepped into a ring; you knew it was time for a solid match. Prior to that, when he was with Billy Gunn, he showed his acting ability. Do you think if we would have written a ambiguously homosexual character like that for Bobby Lashley, he would have been able to run with it? Never.

You want more examples? How bout Test? Andrew “Test” Martin, a former bodyguard for Motley Crew, stepped up his game when he stepped into the squared circle. He had the agility of a cat when he wrestled. A man, who was a legit six foot nine, two hundred seventy five pounds of muscle, made you believe he not only could kick ass, but fly with the best of them. His work was not only believable, but so was his look. If you were walking through an airport and you saw Test standing next to that Mexican kid on Smackdown, Peter London, you would easily think that Test was a man and London was his girlfriend. Let me ask a hypothetical question, if Test walked up to you and smacked you in the mouth, what would you do? That’s right, nothing. Take it like a little *****. But if London walked up to you and smacked you, you would whip that little pansies ass. Correct? Yes, I know it is. But I digress as I am getting off topic here.

We have a ton of names that we plan on bringing back into the fold. Names of men who not only look like wrestlers, but are wrestlers. Not like these high flying Lucha X Libre division midgets that our competitor others present; but real men with real bodies that look like they can kick ass.

These are also men who aren’t afraid to show their inner selves; Henry O. Godwin for example. The man is a hog farmer. So what did he want to be when he first debuted for the then WWF? He wanted to be a hog farmer. He wanted to show the world that hog farmers were tough too. Not just men in overalls who rolled around in pig ****. No! A tough pig **** rolling man who can kick ass.

How about Rikishi Fatu? He is a Samoan. We all know that Samoans are tough guys. Samoans are men who can go undefeated and choke people out. Samoans are guys who can consistently deliver five star matches with a variety of opponents in a variety of matches. Samoans who can be pushed like monsters and stay undefeated by pin fall or submission since their debuts. GOD DAMN IT, WHY DIDN’T WE HIRE HIM. Did you just type that? I was thinking out loud, I didn’t want you to type that? DAMN IT, YOU”RE FIRED. I wish Beth was still here, she took much better dictation that you do. What are you still doing here? Pack your **** and leave; I will finish my own damn memo.

So, what was I saying before I fired my newest personal assistant for insubordination? Oh yes, Rikishi Fatu. Here is a man who connected with the crowd. From being a guy from the streets who wore a diaper to the ring, he and the fans had a bond. Not the fake type of bond that we try to recapture with John Cena, but a real one.

This is what we want to get through to our talent and make them understand. The older talent we had understood the power of the WWE machine. They knew how to listen and comprehend the stuff written for them. They were capable of taking the gimmicks we created and run with them. Nowadays, these so-called “Superstars™” take the gold we create and turn it into ****. I can run off a list of names that could have had money coming out of their ass had they not blown it. Such terrific creations like “The Con Man” Rob Conway, Simon Dean, The Basham Brothers, Mohammed Hassan, Heidenreich the poet, and I am sure that there are others. I cannot continue wasting good ideas on people who are not capable of carrying the ball. I am sick and tired of our performers under delivering when we hand off the magic to them.

I think it may have to do with the fact that none of these guys are larger than life men. The men who are larger than life, they are able to carry the ball once we hand it off to them. A perfect example of this is the Boogeyman. We handed him an opportunity to become a star and he has carried himself like one. He has taken the ball and raised it to new heights. That is what I call a character. Our fresh ideas can last a lifetime, those who can perform them, they are one in a million.

That is the exact reason I plan on bringing back the older “Superstars™” of yesteryear. That is why, beginning after Wrestlemania, our new campaign for the New Year is:

WWE: WHAT’S OLD IS NEW AGAIN.

http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.com/artman/uploads/wwe_slogan1.jpg


That is going to replace the old slogan of “THE POWER IS BACK”

I hope you all enjoy it now get to the writing and make sure you get some cutting edge storylines involving our new talent. I am not one hundred percent sure who we are hiring back yet so just log onto http://www.wwe.com (http://www.wwe.com/) for more details.




Best Regards,



Vincent Kennedy McMahon

Vincent Kennedy McMahon
Chairman and CEO of World Wrestling Entertainment

CC: Stephanie McMahon-Levesque
Jean-Paul Levesque Cruiserweight midgets? Dude,Vince, if Samoa Joe kicked you like he kicked that door off it's hinges last night on iMPACT,what the **** are you going to do if you're not knocked out cold?

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 06:25 PM
Yeah well, that's what the street team does. Between the TNA house show and SNME, I would've rather have gone to the house show.

ROH and WWE seem to have some sort of agreement going on.Yeah, they seemed to have cooled down about Punk appearing at the ROH show a while ago. While I'd love for WWE to do with ROH what they did with ECW, I think there's too many guys from TNA there that WWE don't want to risk elevating.

Assassin
03-19-2006, 06:42 PM
Yeah well, that's what the street team does. Between the TNA house show and SNME, I would've rather have gone to the house show.

ROH and WWE seem to have some sort of agreement going on.

The TNA house show was the night before, and it was like 60 miles away...

I'm going to the ROH show, but **** TNA, and the Flyers werent advertising a house show, they were advertising the TV show...(buy commercals)

Assassin
03-19-2006, 06:45 PM
Cruiserweight midgets? Dude,Vince, if Samoa Joe kicked you like he kicked that door off it's hinges last night on iMPACT,what the **** are you going to do if you're not knocked out cold?

That door was made of cardboard, it glided before it hit the floor

and do yu relise that it wasnt a real memo? It was a Parody.

Hunter Rider
03-19-2006, 08:42 PM
SNME was OK for what it was intended for
Mickie turning full heel,Taker/Henry and the beer segment all moved along fine

The big issue is with the opening and closing matches,The SD main event was made to look weak all to further promote the unstoppable Cena title run and makes it clear that Cena/HHH is going last at WM22:(

HBK/Shane was fun but the ending only furthers the idea Bret will show up at Mania and this would be fine if he actually does but there's a 99% chance he won't and the lies will buy bad feeling

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 08:44 PM
Hopefully it continues, and others will be actual shows now that the Wrestlemania Hype show is out of the way.

TheVileOne
03-19-2006, 09:29 PM
The idea of HBK being "screwed" at SNME is just ridiculous and stupid to me. Just like Vince vs. HBK at wrestlemania.

NDX
03-19-2006, 09:38 PM
Meh, I've come to accept Vince v. HBK at the big show. I'm not happy, but this way I'll just pay 25 bucks for the dvd when it comes out and save 50 bucks. Mayhaps Vince will take some nice bumps in the end and come out a bloody mess giving some of us some satisfaction.

Although I must admit, I laughed at how poorly the ending of the HBK v. Shane match came out. Just sad, really.

Anyone else feel SNME was really just Saturday Night RAW?

Eric Draven
03-19-2006, 09:41 PM
One thing about SNME that I was ashamed of getting a kick out of was Booker T and Sharmell's antics. I always thought Booker T made a better heel and his current portrayal plus his heel run back in 2002 proves that he's a pretty entertaining heel :up:

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 09:41 PM
I enjoyed it much more than Raw, I think the interpromotional aspect could pump it up. But putting the match that should've been the ME first on the card sullied it a little bit. I think that given time, SNME could turn out to be almost as good as Smackdown, especially since it gives the oppurtunity for interpromotional dream matches.

Eric Draven
03-19-2006, 09:46 PM
And yeah, I enjoyed SNME more than Raw as well. Most of the matches and segments were pretty enjoyable. Even the Shane-Shawn streetfight was pretty good up until the final moments of the match.

Apparently, the next SNME takes place in July :confused:

NDX
03-19-2006, 09:47 PM
I just felt Smackdown! could have been better represented. I probably wouldnn't have felt this way of Team Smackdown! came out on top in the opening matchup.

But the show really felt empty for me, thinking it at least needed one more match.

Yeah, I'm surprised it's in July as well. Should be at least June, allow for a show once every 3 months.

Hunter Rider
03-19-2006, 09:51 PM
There was no real satisfactory way to finish Shawn/Shane,the ending foreshadwos a Bret appearance at WM22,only problem is if it doesn't happen the whole thing is for naught

I agree with NDX,a 6 man with MNM and Finlay against Lashley/Benoit/Burchhill would have been a nice addition

Plus the SD main event being made to look insignificant against the might of Cena was a bad move

Eric Draven
03-19-2006, 09:52 PM
They probably could've had that six-man match if they had cut down on a couple of the WM22 promos. I swear, I saw one of those promos before every commercial break.....

TheVileOne
03-19-2006, 10:00 PM
Wrestlemania just really feels weak this year. Weak.

NDX
03-19-2006, 10:15 PM
Maybe McMahon realizes how weak RAW's WrestleMania card looks compared to Smackdown!'s and used SNME to help bolster their side of the card. Although SD! did take a hit adding Boogeyman v. Booker T to the card.

Sarge 2.0
03-19-2006, 10:17 PM
I think the Hardcore Match, SD's ME, and JBL/Benoit will be the only good matches on the card at this Mania...if Rey wins then it will be truly Mania worthy. But MITB might be pretty fun, especially since it gives RVD, Shelton, and Matt Hardy a chance to compete in a ladder match together.

Hunter Rider
03-19-2006, 10:19 PM
Wrestlemania just really feels weak this year. Weak.

How :confused:

NDX
03-19-2006, 10:20 PM
But MITB might be pretty fun, especially since it gives RVD, Shelton, and Matt Hardy a chance to compete in a ladder match together.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing how Finlay will adjust his wrestling style to fit within a ladder match with 5 other peopler. Now, could there be better people in the match over Finlay and Flair? Yes, but it could still have an interesting outcome.

TheVileOne
03-19-2006, 10:27 PM
How :confused:
There's not one match on the card that even touches the luster of Angle vs. HBK from last year.

Let's see:

Boogeyman vs. Booker T

HBK vs. Vince McMahon

John Cena vs. HHH

JBL vs. Benoit

Carlito and Chris Masters vs. Kane and The Big Show

Mark Henry vs. The Undertaker

Hunter Rider
03-19-2006, 10:31 PM
There's not one match on the card that even touches the luster of Angle vs. HBK from last year.

Let's see:

Boogeyman vs. Booker T

HBK vs. Vince McMahon

John Cena vs. HHH

JBL vs. Benoit

Carlito and Chris Masters vs. Kane and The Big Show

Mark Henry vs. The Undertaker

Thats because there was no dream match this year as Hogan and Austin wasn't ever gonna happen but both title matches are vastly superior this year and the best that could have been booked
The US title,the hardcore match and the MITB II match will all deliver so i don't see how it is a weak lineup given the death of eddie and the refusal of the Rock to work and the injuries to Batista and Kennedy

TheVileOne
03-19-2006, 11:34 PM
Thats because there was no dream match this year as Hogan and Austin wasn't ever gonna happen but both title matches are vastly superior this year and the best that could have been booked
The US title,the hardcore match and the MITB II match will all deliver so i don't see how it is a weak lineup given the death of eddie and the refusal of the Rock to work and the injuries to Batista and Kennedy

They had plenty of better matches they could've booked:

Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio - here is your WM dream match right here.

Angle vs. Orton

ROB VAN DAM VS. HBK - no freaking brainer here.

All those matches, especially RVD vs. HBK and Benoit vs. Mysterio scream WM dream matches right there.

There's absolutely no good reason that justifies crap like Vince vs. HBK when they should be putting RVD in a feud with HBK where he belongs.

NDX
03-20-2006, 12:41 AM
Of those matches you mention the only one that interests me is HBK v. Rob Van Dam.

That is the only one I consider a dream match.

TheVileOne
03-20-2006, 12:58 AM
Well there you go then. WWE couldn't even produce a no brainer WM quality match. Instead we are relegated to Vince McMahon vs. HBk.

punishermax
03-20-2006, 04:01 AM
They had plenty of better matches they could've booked:

Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio - here is your WM dream match right here.

Angle vs. Orton

ROB VAN DAM VS. HBK - no freaking brainer here.

All those matches, especially RVD vs. HBK and Benoit vs. Mysterio scream WM dream matches right there.

There's absolutely no good reason that justifies crap like Vince vs. HBK when they should be putting RVD in a feud with HBK where he belongs.

Angle/Orton is fine. HBK/RVD is fine. But Benoit/Rey....that would be a good match....but not a dream match. To a smart fan, sure, but to your average everyday fan they wouldn't give two ****s about it. Not to mention that match wouldn't draw. You can't look at the WWE from a smarky point of view because if a smart fan were in charge WWE would drop off the face of the Earth. You have to look at it as if you were a mark.

Hunter Rider
03-20-2006, 07:12 AM
They had plenty of better matches they could've booked:

Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio - here is your WM dream match right here.

Angle vs. Orton

ROB VAN DAM VS. HBK - no freaking brainer here.

All those matches, especially RVD vs. HBK and Benoit vs. Mysterio scream WM dream matches right there.

There's absolutely no good reason that justifies crap like Vince vs. HBK when they should be putting RVD in a feud with HBK where he belongs.

Rey has to be in the Mania main event,the only person obsessing over Rey vs Benoit is you
RVD vs HBK was unbookable,face vs face for no reason and no title just isnt feasible in mainstream wrestling

3dman27
03-20-2006, 07:18 AM
They had plenty of better matches they could've booked:

Benoit vs. Rey Mysterio - here is your WM dream match right here.

Angle vs. Orton

ROB VAN DAM VS. HBK - no freaking brainer here.

All those matches, especially RVD vs. HBK and Benoit vs. Mysterio scream WM dream matches right there.

There's absolutely no good reason that justifies crap like Vince vs. HBK when they should be putting RVD in a feud with HBK where he belongs.
lilian vs maria[ that can't be any worse than the one the wwpu has planned]

Assassin
03-20-2006, 09:10 AM
Is a ROH show worth missing work for? convince me, main event is samoa joe vs fallen angel...how much do tix cost?

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 10:07 AM
Even with Vile's suggestions for the WM card; I'd take out the Rey/Benoit fight. I'm probably alone on this one but I really don't enjoy Mysterio matches. I dunno why; I don't even think he belongs in this 3X Threat at WM. Could it be the milking Eddie's death thing? Maybe. I think it has more to do with his size and stature though. How would we all feel if Spike Dudley were a WM main eventer?

Assassin
03-20-2006, 10:19 AM
Spike Dudly was cool as an Idea..but after a few fights, you change the gimmick

Hunter Rider
03-20-2006, 10:57 AM
Even with Vile's suggestions for the WM card; I'd take out the Rey/Benoit fight. I'm probably alone on this one but I really don't enjoy Mysterio matches. I dunno why; I don't even think he belongs in this 3X Threat at WM. Could it be the milking Eddie's death thing? Maybe. I think it has more to do with his size and stature though. How would we all feel if Spike Dudley were a WM main eventer?

I think the Eddie thing is subsiding now,his size is outweighed by his talent IMO and i prefer a good worker over a big guy personally

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 10:59 AM
Heh, my Batista markism aside. I prefer guys the size between Orton and The Rock. I think they possess a fair amount of strength with a fair amount of agility. Something neither Rey or Batista have.

Bad Superman
03-20-2006, 11:33 AM
IMO and i prefer a good worker over a big guy personally

Same here.

TheVileOne
03-20-2006, 01:24 PM
Rey has to be in the Mania main event,the only person obsessing over Rey vs Benoit is you

Well people were going gaga over Eddie vs. Rey Mysterio going at it last year, and they had already gone at it many times. Their match at Mania was sloppy and disappointing.

Mysterio and Benoit have only had ONE match together in their entire careers. Its untapped.


RVD vs HBK was unbookable,face vs face for no reason and no title just isnt feasible in mainstream wrestling

They could've easily turned one or the other heel. But WWE is too chicken-**** to turn HBK heel unless he's only against Hulk Hogan. It was great for his character and then they ridiculously turn him back into a face right after the match. LAME.

Hunter Rider
03-20-2006, 02:04 PM
Well people were going gaga over Eddie vs. Rey Mysterio going at it last year, and they had already gone at it many times. Their match at Mania was sloppy and disappointing.

Mysterio and Benoit have only had ONE match together in their entire careers. Its untapped.

Eddie and Rey have a history with each other that went further back than WM21 and again Benoit/Rey would have no story or reason,this isn't ROH




They could've easily turned one or the other heel. But WWE is too chicken-**** to turn HBK heel unless he's only against Hulk Hogan. It was great for his character and then they ridiculously turn him back into a face right after the match. LAME.

:confused: That's not the WWE's fault,HBK has it written up that he won't play Heel and RVD sucks as a heel,plus he has only been back 5 weeks the match he is in makes sense for him

Sarge 2.0
03-20-2006, 04:13 PM
lilian vs maria[ that can't be any worse than the one the wwpu has planned]Neither of those two are ring proficient, and it wouldn't really make sense, so I don't think it could be better than Trish/Mickie, considering they can both work a proper match.

The FallenAngel
03-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Trish and Mickie should have a Mania match where they have to have lesbian sex. No time limit. Hells yeah.

Hunter Rider
03-20-2006, 04:44 PM
From pwinsider.com

"WWE Women's champion Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James and Torrie Wilson vs. Candice Michelle in a "Playboy Pillow Fight" have been added to the card for Wrestlemania 22"

NDX
03-20-2006, 04:46 PM
Speaking of WWE women, credit: PWInsider.com

Two new diva matches have been added to the WWE WrestleMania card:

Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James

"Playboy Pillow Fight”
Torrie Wilson vs. Candice Michelle

Edit: Sunova... 2 minutes...

Credit: PWInsider.com

Erik Roth sent this, which leads one to believe that Triple H will be winning the title at WrestleMania:

This is a transcript of the Backlash promo.

(Triple H) At Backlash, The Game begins
(HBK) At Backlash, There is no tomorrow
(Big Show) At Backlash, You can't run
(Chavo) At Backlash
(Flair) At Backlash
(Carlito) At Backlash, The future starts
(RVD) The questions end
(Edge) At Backlash
(Kane) I will find you
(Edge) Destroy you
(Chris Masters) At Backlash, I'll make you suffer
(Voice) At Backlash
(Shelton) At Backlash
(John Cena) At Backlash, I'll take what's mine

Sarge 2.0
03-20-2006, 04:46 PM
Well, there goes any prospect of a competitive womens match for Mania. :o

At least it will be hot. :o

It seems like the last truly good women's match was at Survivor Series between Melina and Trish.

NDX
03-20-2006, 04:59 PM
I hope Trish and James really goes over well. I still have yet to see James perform in the ring to the level you all speak of, so I'm just very skeptical abotu the match.

Lot of news today.

Credit: PWInsider.com

WWE have released OVW developmental talent Chris Cage this past weekend in what was said to have been a disciplinary move.

Cage was one half of the OVW Southern Tag Team championships, which required a title change at last night’s OVW house show in a singles match as Deuce Shade defeated Mike The Miz to capture The belts for The Untouchables.

Cage and Miz worked several house shows and dark matches doing a "Hot Topic"/Punk tag team gimmick.

LastSunrise1981
03-20-2006, 05:28 PM
Well people were going gaga over Eddie vs. Rey Mysterio going at it last year, and they had already gone at it many times. Their match at Mania was sloppy and disappointing.

Mysterio and Benoit have only had ONE match together in their entire careers. Its untapped.



They could've easily turned one or the other heel. But WWE is too chicken-**** to turn HBK heel unless he's only against Hulk Hogan. It was great for his character and then they ridiculously turn him back into a face right after the match. LAME.

RVD cannot and won't turn heel, he's one of those wrestlers that fans cannot and will not hate.

HBK won't turn heel due to his Christian beliefs, now they could've did a face vs. face match for competitive reasons, however, since there's nothing on the line between the two it wouldn't have worked out.

But I would LOVE to see RVD and HBK have another match. Their match on Raw for the championship was pretty good, until a certain someone interfered and ruined it. :p

TheVileOne
03-20-2006, 07:31 PM
RVD cannot and won't turn heel, he's one of those wrestlers that fans cannot and will not hate.

RVD has played a strong heel before. And just because he hasn't done it in a long time, doesn't mean it can't work. Quality wrestlers constantly reinvent and reinterpret themselves and have switched from heel to face before. We know RVD can do it.


HBK won't turn heel due to his Christian beliefs, now they could've did a face vs. face match for competitive reasons, however, since there's nothing on the line between the two it wouldn't have worked out.

:rolleyes: BS, BS, BS. Don't give me that clear BS LastSunrise1981. He already turned heel, AGAINST HIS CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, when he feuded with Hulk Hogan last year. I also don't see how playing a heel in a wrestling federation goes against Christian beliefs.


But I would LOVE to see RVD and HBK have another match. Their match on Raw for the championship was pretty good, until a certain someone interfered and ruined it. :p

Yeah and that was in December of 2002. RVD/HBK could've been one of the all time great WM matches to be sure. But even WWE screwed that up so they could do this HBK/McMahon vanity crap.

krpton2
03-20-2006, 07:40 PM
I'm ready for raw peeps, what about you guys?

Hunter Rider
03-20-2006, 08:01 PM
RVD has played a strong heel before. And just because he hasn't done it in a long time, doesn't mean it can't work. Quality wrestlers constantly reinvent and reinterpret themselves and have switched from heel to face before. We know RVD can do it.

Oh please he sucked as a heel,his style is that of a face in and out
the crowd cheered for him even as a supposed bad guy and he is not a great worker by a long shot,he is a fun spot worker but please




:rolleyes: BS, BS, BS. Don't give me that clear BS LastSunrise1981. He already turned heel, AGAINST HIS CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, when he feuded with Hulk Hogan last year. I also don't see how playing a heel in a wrestling federation goes against Christian beliefs.

There's this thing it's called money,WWE needed a buyrate and Hogan/HBK gave them that,part of the condition for not screwing the Hogan deal up was that he returned to being a face afterwards
Hogan couldn't play the heel in the feud so for approximately 5 weeks HBK did a tweener stint to make the match draw

Eric Draven
03-20-2006, 08:13 PM
Even with Vile's suggestions for the WM card; I'd take out the Rey/Benoit fight. I'm probably alone on this one but I really don't enjoy Mysterio matches. I dunno why; I don't even think he belongs in this 3X Threat at WM. Could it be the milking Eddie's death thing? Maybe. I think it has more to do with his size and stature though. How would we all feel if Spike Dudley were a WM main eventer?

There's a big difference between Spike Dudley and Rey though. Rey is the face of Smackdown. From the start of his tenure to right now, Rey has been in Smackdown and he has proven himself extremely over. Not to mention Rey has put on great matches against practically every wrestler on SD.

And it's not really that far-out for Rey to win the title. Back when Brock Lesner got injured, Paul Heyman actually wanted Rey to win the WWE title back then. I'm kind of glad that he didn't win it at that point because he wasn't ready back then for a main event spot....

NDX
03-20-2006, 09:08 PM
Smackdown! spoilers:

Credit: PWInisder.com & Jeff Rademaker

Good hot crowd, with camera side almost empty. 75% full at start. Here are the results:

Dark Match:

Matt Hardy v. Vito.

Winner: Matt Hardy.

HOT CROWD!

SmackDown:

The show opened with a Randy Orton promo about WrestleMania 22 and Smackdown.

There was a battle royal for the last spot in the Money in the Bank match with: MNM, Lashley, London, Kendrick, Jordan, Funaki, Scotty, Kash, Noble, Sylvan, Nunzio, Dean Gymini, Mexicools, Tatanka, Burchill, Road Warrior Buffet. Buffet was out first. Melina is hotter in person. Winner: Lashley

JBL did a promo about SNME, Benoit and other stuff.

The building is 90% full now and the crowd is still still hot.

Rey Mysterio vs. Fit Finlay saw Randy Orton run in and RKOs Rey while he was making a comeback. Finlay wins.

Next up was a contract signing for WM22: Booker v Boogeyman. Sharmell checks under table before sitting down. Teddy Long then makes it a handicap match, Boogeyman vs. Booker and Sharmell.

Chris Benoit v Regal was next. Benoit won with the crossface. JBL throws a tantrum.

The main event saw Mark Henry, (without Daivari) take on Kurt Angle. Randy Orton runs in during ankle lock. Rey runs in and accidentally hits Kurt. Henry gets the 3. I guess it wasn't for the title. Post match there was a staredown. Kurt pushes down Rey and yells at Orton. Rey dropkicks Kurt, hits the 619. End of SD.

Just years ago Vince wished Shane was never born, and now Shane is the greatest thing Vince ever created. Nice.

I should turn this **** off right now.

Hunter Rider
03-20-2006, 09:20 PM
Cena turning on HBK in this tag would be great

Capt Throbberson
03-20-2006, 09:33 PM
It would


It's not happening though

NDX
03-20-2006, 09:39 PM
Will never happen, unfortunately.

Looking forward to this year's Hall of Fame ceremony. Should be a fun one to watch.

LastSunrise1981
03-20-2006, 09:41 PM
RVD has played a strong heel before. And just because he hasn't done it in a long time, doesn't mean it can't work. Quality wrestlers constantly reinvent and reinterpret themselves and have switched from heel to face before. We know RVD can do it.



:rolleyes: BS, BS, BS. Don't give me that clear BS LastSunrise1981. He already turned heel, AGAINST HIS CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, when he feuded with Hulk Hogan last year. I also don't see how playing a heel in a wrestling federation goes against Christian beliefs.



Yeah and that was in December of 2002. RVD/HBK could've been one of the all time great WM matches to be sure. But even WWE screwed that up so they could do this HBK/McMahon vanity crap.

Read HBK's book and you'll see where he said it. He clearly stated he doesn't want to turn heel due to his Christian beliefs, he's said it a million times in countless interviews.

As Hunter stated already, he was more of a tweener in his feud with Hogan and the only time he acted like a heel was in Canada.

RVD is a different kind of wrestler though. As I said, he's one of those wrestlers that fans cannot and will not hate, and repackaging or giving a new gimmick wouldn't work. His strongest heel work was in ECW and even then the fans cheered him, so really that point you made is baseless.

He never really did or does anything heelish when he was one.

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 09:50 PM
There's a big difference between Spike Dudley and Rey though. Rey is the face of Smackdown. From the start of his tenure to right now, Rey has been in Smackdown and he has proven himself extremely over. Not to mention Rey has put on great matches against practically every wrestler on SD.

And it's not really that far-out for Rey to win the title. Back when Brock Lesner got injured, Paul Heyman actually wanted Rey to win the WWE title back then. I'm kind of glad that he didn't win it at that point because he wasn't ready back then for a main event spot....

As good of a worker as Rey is, I just can't picture him with the heavyweight strap. Why is not in the Cruiserweight division? That seems like it'd suit him better.

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 09:56 PM
What a smart pin for Shelton

NDX
03-20-2006, 10:36 PM
Good triple threat match. Had my attention the whole time. Glad I didn't turn off the program afterall.

Hey look, Ashley's back.

krpton2
03-20-2006, 10:37 PM
Just years ago Vince wished Shane was never born, and now Shane is the greatest thing Vince ever created. Nice.

I should turn this **** off right now.

Lmao:o

krpton2
03-20-2006, 10:47 PM
Ok this outta be good. I think that hbk is going to take this hands down unless vince does something useful.

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 10:54 PM
Wow Bull*****

There's a difference between building up hype for WM and crippling every match 3 weeks prior to it. This is ridiculous.

NDX
03-20-2006, 10:56 PM
Christ, what a **** way to end the show. I was actually looking forward to seeing the tag match, but then again, this is the WWE.

Why do I even bother anymore...

krpton2
03-20-2006, 10:57 PM
Jesus christ. Oh brother

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 10:58 PM
No, this isn't typical WWE. Vince is really diggin in his ass for ways to screw up now.

The Techno Bat
03-20-2006, 10:59 PM
Vince McMahon ruined what was going to be a great tag team main event, I wish he would just SHUT UP!

krpton2
03-20-2006, 11:00 PM
What the hell is this?

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 11:00 PM
Is he really trying to make HBK quit?

NDX
03-20-2006, 11:02 PM
What is the point of this? Only advancing the HBK v. Vince match when the tag match could have really helped the storylines of two matches. This just feels so counterproductive.

There are less than 2 weeks left 'til WrestleMania, you'd think it would be booked better than this.

I'm starting to wish I taped Carlito v. Kane instead of this tripe.

NDX
03-20-2006, 11:04 PM
For the love of... tell me Vince did not just say that.

krpton2
03-20-2006, 11:05 PM
lmao.

Colossal Spoons
03-20-2006, 11:05 PM
For the love of... tell me Vince did not just say that.

Yeah, he said it. :down: Not as bad as his "Viva la raza" though.

krpton2
03-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Damn i use to love that coonan

Eric Draven
03-20-2006, 11:08 PM
As good of a worker as Rey is, I just can't picture him with the heavyweight strap. Why is not in the Cruiserweight division? That seems like it'd suit him better.

Because he's basically done everything in the cruiserweight division anyways. And he has shown numerous times that he can beat bigger wrestlers when he's needed to, even back in WCW.

And Chris Jericho and Christian were both "cruiserweights" in the beginning of their careers anyways and moved seamlessly to the heavyweight division, I really don't see why Rey can't do the same as well, especially since he's as over as those two were.....

Eric Draven
03-20-2006, 11:09 PM
And honestly, I don't get why Vince just doesn't fire Shawn's ass storyline-wise. He's "fired" many other wrestlers and GM's before without having to put up with a lawsuit, what makes this situation any different? And if he just fired Shawn, we wouldn't have to put up with this lameass feud.

LastSunrise1981
03-20-2006, 11:17 PM
For the love of... tell me Vince did not just say that.

What did he say?

Eric Draven
03-20-2006, 11:17 PM
What is the point of this? Only advancing the HBK v. Vince match when the tag match could have really helped the storylines of two matches. This just feels so counterproductive.


The tag match did one thing though: It brought back the McMahon-Helmsley era :down

krpton2
03-20-2006, 11:18 PM
What did he say?\


cena vs vince.

LastSunrise1981
03-20-2006, 11:20 PM
\


cena vs vince.

:rolleyes:

So I guess we have a Cena/Vince feud to look forward to in the future? :o

krpton2
03-20-2006, 11:21 PM
Vince is going down.

NDX
03-20-2006, 11:39 PM
God damn I wish I didn't watch the program this week.

RAW was bad except for 1 match and 1 promo and Smackdown! read to be beyond lackluster.

krpton2
03-20-2006, 11:46 PM
I think you have a point there.

NDX
03-21-2006, 01:47 AM
Credit: PWInsider.com

Prior to tonight's WWE Supershow taping of Raw and Smackdown in Memphis, the entire WWE roster underwent their first urine test for the WWE Wellness program.

The results from today's testing will be considered "baseline" levels with no action taken against anyone testing positive for illegal substances. The results of the baseline tests will be compared with future testing to determine whether usage of prohibited and illegal substances have continued, or if the levels of the substances within performers are dropping.

According to the wording of the WWE Wellness Program, "After the baseline test, subsequent positive tests for non-medical use of a prohibited substance will result in disciplinary action."

In other words, WWE will not penalize anyone for what's already in their system as long as take strides to get off of it. However, if future testing indicates continued use at the same level (or increased usage) without a medical reason, that talent will be subject to disciplinary action starting with a 30 day suspension without pay.

Mister J
03-21-2006, 02:50 AM
Vince just kills anything he's involved in right now. It was looking like a decent tag was about to take shape. However, Genghis McMahon screws it up. I understand what a storyline is supposed to be and what emotions it's supposed to ellicit, but this is just annoying crap.

GreatWhiteShark
03-21-2006, 05:17 AM
Vince vs. Cena... with a special ref.....I bet. Yay. :rolleyes:

Bad Superman
03-21-2006, 06:56 AM
Vince vs. Cena... with a special ref.....I bet. Yay. :rolleyes:

Let me guess. . . . Triple H?

Thank God I went to sleep after the Intercontinental title match.

Hunter Rider
03-21-2006, 08:26 AM
Haven't seen RAW yet but I'm guessing the tag match didn't happen and i also noticed that Vince actually acknowledged HHH as family earlier

A year of McMahon's vs Cena ????????:(

Super_Ludacris
03-21-2006, 08:53 AM
So wait.........Saturday Night Main Event is back on TV?

3dman27
03-21-2006, 10:01 AM
i think it was a one time special

Bad Superman
03-21-2006, 10:32 AM
A year of McMahon's vs Cena ????????:(

That appears to be the case. :down

PyroChamber
03-21-2006, 11:20 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but the only thing that seemed to interest me on RAW yesterday was the Mickie/Trish/Ashley segment, the blood from the nose and the kiss was pretty crazy.

And maybe I was hearing things, but during the Mick Foley/Lita segment was the crowd yelling "whoop that trick"? lol

Eklypze
03-21-2006, 11:27 AM
And maybe I was hearing things, but during the Mick Foley/Lita segment was the crowd yelling "whoop that trick"? lol

man i kne wi wasnt the only person that noticed that it had to be one of the most amusing crowd chants ever

The FallenAngel
03-21-2006, 11:51 AM
Looks like they're trying to make Cena a Stone Cold type now, with him fighting the McMahons. That tag match would've been great, but Vince ****ed it all up. Not shocking though.

Carlito looked pretty good in the ring last night and that Moonsault attempt looked amazing. I wish he would've connected with it.

Triple Threat rocked. Started out a little slow and sloppy, but got much better all the way through. :up:

Mick Foley's promo last night was just incredible. He's so good on the mic, and I love the craziness to his character right now. Cactus Jack! Hell yeah.

Last thing, I'm officially in love with Mickie James. That was hot. She was bleeding, and was all psycho, it was awesome. She rules. :o

Bad Superman
03-21-2006, 12:57 PM
Well, after Wrestlemania I see no point watching WWE anymore. The only reason I watch bits and pieces of the program is to see how the build up some of the matches. It's pretty clear in what direction they're heading.

Hunter Rider
03-21-2006, 01:00 PM
Well, after Wrestlemania I see no point watching WWE anymore. The only reason I watch bits and pieces of the program is to see how the build up some of the matches. It's pretty clear in what direction they're heading.

As far as RAW goes i feel you but SD is great IMO,Teddy Long does a great job as a subtle GM and all the matches they can have utilizing,Rey,Angle,Orton,Batista,Benoit,JBL,Lashl ey and Finlay should make for some great stuff

Eklypze
03-21-2006, 01:15 PM
Mick Foley's promo last night was just incredible. He's so good on the mic, and I love the craziness to his character right now. Cactus Jack! Hell yeah.

Last thing, I'm officially in love with Mickie James. That was hot. She was bleeding, and was all psycho, it was awesome. She rules. :o

yeah long live cactus jack!!!
and mickie james is freaking awesome i feel you there man that **** was freakin hot that bloody kiss was the best thing on raw this week