Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

From: http://www.wrestlinginc.com/v2/wi/stc/nws/2006/3/29/16682.shtml

Triple H recently did an interview promoting WrestleMania 22 with the Connecticut Hersam Acorn Newspapers. The interview includes a comment about HHH allegedly holding back talent. When the subject was mentioned, HHH said, “I hear all these stories about things I supposedly did or who I’m holding back and it doesn’t bother me. You just deal with it. There are people out there who are going to think you’re great and there are people out there who are going to think you’re crap. There have been some unfair claims, but I realize I’m a scapegoat for some people.”

Yeah it doesn't bother him because he will have his way. He HAS HELD BACK deserving talent: RVD, Jericho, Benoit, Orton, Edge. . .These claims are not "unfair". They're pretty much accurate. It pisses me off when he plays the victim ("scapegoat") and thinks fans are stupid not to notice his backstage pull and how he uses it. Fans have proven him otherwise.

I agree that he's held back Orton,Edge and Jericho b/c he fears another heel taking his spot but Benoit was always put over strongly by him and in truth a lot(myslef included) don't feel RVD can carry a show as his overall game is not strong enough

[Mister J]

H is definitely protective of his spot. I wonder if he consciously holds guys back or thinks he's sincerely doing what's best from a business standpoint (i.e., "they're not ready to go over").

...I know, I know. But even I like to give the slightest benefit of the doubt at times.

[Bad Superman]

You guys got any predictions for WM?

[Mister J]

I predict I'll be disappointed if I order it or go to a Blast Area (do they even do that anymore?)

Other than that:
I think Trips goes over,
Flair takes MITB,
Kane/Show will lose due to some stupidity involving inner conflict (although I hope not)
Trish retains
We all win in the Torrie/Candace 'match'
Taker better beat Sweaty Beard
Benoit over JBL (should be a pretty good match)
Boogeyman realizes he a one trick pony and loses to B.Teezy

and I have no clue what to make of the Triple Threat with Rey/Kurt/Orton...which is a good thing; should be the best match on the card.

That's all I got

edit: How could I forget Foley making another comeback to put someone else over. Probably because I can't stand Edge and loathe seeing him win and having to listen to his mouth.

Also HBK kicks Vince in his mouth in a match that will be more drawn out than it should.

[Hunter Rider]

WWE title match
John Cena vs HHH
I think/hope this may turn out better than expected,in truth this must be the least anticipated main event in Mania history but HHH won't want another stinker on his resume and i actually believe Cena will go all out to impress,my guess is HHH wins but im far from sure

World Heavyweight title match
Rey vs Angle vs Orton
This should be spectacular spotty greatness,all 3 guys have been interacting well and this could steal the show and become the best Triple threat ever
I expect Orton to win but Rey may be the underdog victor,i don't feel Angle has any chance of winning but ya never know

Hardcore match
Edge vs Foley
The other potential show stealer,this all depends on how fit Foley is and how much the 2 guys are willing to put in
I expect Edge to win even though the story seems to dictate a Foley win

MITB II
Flair vs RVD vs Benjamin vs Finlay vs Hardy vs Lashley
Could top last years with the mixture of styles in this one,i think RVD takes it but i'm hoping for Flair to win and cash it in later in the night

US title match
Chris Benoit vs JBL
Very oldschool feud which will hopefully get a good 20 minutes to deliver a classic match,I think Benoit goes over in this one with JBL taking the title at Judgement Day

Casket Match
Undertaker vs Mark Henry
I think this will be better than many think if there match on SD is anything to go by
a solid little power match with a predictably dull finish of Taker going over

No Holds Barred
Shawn Michaels vs Vince McMahon
This will suck and be the weakest match on the show,Shawn will win and it will be booked to death with run ins except for the one run in anyone would actually care about

World Tag team title match
Kane/Show vs Carlito/Masters
This will be OK as long as Carlito and Show keep in the ring,i think it will be short with Kane/Show going over
WWE women's title
Trish Stratus vs Mickie James
Now that Mickie is full psycho heel and Trish can play fired up face i am hoping this match will be good,Mickie needs to go over if the angle is to have any point

Boogeyman vs Booker and the PBPF=whatever

[The FallenAngel]

Meh...all I have to say is I'm glad I have Frostwire so I can download the better of those matches. WM 22 is not worth the 50 bucks this year. Hell, with that I could get tickets to a ROH show, third row. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

I agree that he's held back Orton,Edge and Jericho b/c he fears another heel taking his spot but Benoit was always put over strongly by him and in truth a lot(myslef included) don't feel RVD can carry a show as his overall game is not strong enough

He's held back, Jericho, Edge, RVD, Jeff Hardy(Although he brought it on himself the majority of the time), Booker T, and Kane.

On one hand it's not H's fault, on the other hand it is, when all he had to do was do what was right for the business and put over those who were or are more over than he is. RVD, I feel can carry a show. Simply because his talent and his intensity in the ring is what keeps him over.

His work in the ring speaks for itself really.

[Hunter Rider]

He's held back, Jericho, Edge, RVD, Jeff Hardy(Although he brought it on himself the majority of the time), Booker T, and Kane.

On one hand it's not H's fault, on the other hand it is, when all he had to do was do what was right for the business and put over those who were or are more over than he is. RVD, I feel can carry a show. Simply because his talent and his intensity in the ring is what keeps him over.

His work in the ring speaks for itself really.

Kane and Booker were never good enough to be the number 1 guy,especially Kane who is a second rate big man who owes his whole career to a gimmick that put him up with an icon in Taker

You can't job the main guy out over and over to every face that comes along,look at Austin he hardly ever lost

RVD isn't a great wrestler,in fact he is kinda sloppy at times and in WWE where ppl aren't willing to get stiffed by him the way Dreamer and Sabu were a lot of his offense barely looks like it hurts but his biggest deficiency is his mic work and you can't be a main guy without it

[LastSunrise1981]

Kane and Booker were never good enough to be the number 1 guy,especially Kane who is a second rate big man who owes his whole career to a gimmick that put him up with an icon in Taker

You can't job the main guy out over and over to every face that comes along,look at Austin he hardly ever lost

RVD isn't a great wrestler,in fact he is kinda sloppy at times and in WWE where ppl aren't willing to get stiffed by him the way Dreamer and Sabu were a lot of his offense barely looks like it hurts but his biggest deficiency is his mic work and you can't be a main guy without it

I find RVD to be a great wrestler. His matches with Jericho, Benoit, Angle, and Hardy(Jeff) were great matches. Of course they could carry a dead man through a match too.

That's why I miss WCW and ECW though. A lot of guys had crappy mic skills, but it was their ring work and fan response that got them over.

I will say that if H puts over Cena at WM; I'll swear off WWE forever and ever. Even if you disagree about Booker, Kane, and RVD, you have to agree that Jericho and Edge should've been given a fair and more dominant reign as champion.

[Jason Blood]

WWE Champion John Cena vs. Triple H
Winner- HHH

World Heavyweight Champion Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio
Winner- Rey Mysterio (I wish it was Kurt, but it's obvious he'll lose judging by his mic time over the past month)

Mr. McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels (No Holds Barred Match)
Winner- HBK

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Winner- Hardy (Who else can you imagine carrying around a briefcase?)

Undertaker vs. Mark Henry (Casket Match)
Winner- Undertaker

Edge vs. Mick Foley (Hardcore Match)
Winner- Edge

United States Champion Chris Benoit vs. JBL
Winner- JBL

World Tag Team Champions Kane & Big Show vs. Chris Masters & Carlito
Winners- Carlito and The Masterpiece

Women's Champion Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James
Winner- Mickie James

Boogeyman vs. Booker T & Sharmell
Winner- Booker T & Sharmell

Torrie Wilson vs. Candice Michelle (Playboy Pillow Fight)
Winner- Candice

[Hunter Rider]

I find RVD to be a great wrestler. His matches with Jericho, Benoit, Angle, and Hardy(Jeff) were great matches. Of course they could carry a dead man through a match too.

That's why I miss WCW and ECW though. A lot of guys had crappy mic skills, but it was their ring work and fan response that got them over.

I will say that if H puts over Cena at WM; I'll swear off WWE forever and ever. Even if you disagree about Booker, Kane, and RVD, you have to agree that Jericho and Edge should've been given a fair and more dominant reign as champion.

I think RVD has had some great WWE matches i just think that the style of WWE limits him as he can't be as full on as he was in ECW or his beginning run in WWE

I agree with those 2 for deifinite,Y2J's run was totally undermined by HHH and Steph and Edge should be the guy facing Cena at Mania not HHH

I honestly think jobbing to Cena makes sense in the fact that he is the only mega face prospect they have

[Hunter Rider]

Sports Illustrated has an interview up with Bret Hart talking about his induction into the 2006 WWE Hall of Fame this Saturday in Chicago, IL. In addition to saying that he doesn't plan on speaking with Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair or Triple H, Hart added similar remarks about if he was to see Shawn Michaels this Sunday: "I've made it pretty clear that I don't want to be around Shawn. Shawn's different. If I even see Shawn I'll probably get back in the cab and you'll have your April Fool's. I won't have him around. I won't allow myself to be agitated by his presence. If I have to deal with that, I'd rather not even be there." Hart also continues to state that he won't be at WrestleMania the next night either.


:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

Anti-Cena signs were confiscated prior to last week's Raw taping in Memphis. Although, during Maria's "Kiss Cam" on Raw Unlimited, a sign that read "Cena, I want my money back" made it on camera while a couple was shown kissing. The segment was ended quickly.


ahhhhh persistence

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[Sabretooth]

Bret Hart screwed Bret Hart. If it wasn't for his gigantic ego he wouldn't be in this predicament,he'd also probably still have a job in wrestling.

[Sabretooth]

ahhhhh persistence

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I thought Vince moved past the Cena denial and admitted to Cena being a poor worker?

[The_Mystery]

HHH vs. John Cena-
HHH wins, although I do wish it was Cena cause HHH always wins

Rey vs Orton vs. Angle-
For sentimentality, I will say Rey Mysterio. Orton should win though, he needs another chance as a heel champ to set him up for a returning Batista.

Edge vs. Foley-
Knowing Vince, the adulterer probably gets this one.

Trish vs. Mickie James-
I'm gonna say the cute psycho James wins it. I hope she does.

Benoit vs. JBL-
JBL is due for a big win and I'm guessin' he's gonna get it.

Big Show/Kane vs. Masterfully Cool :) (Carlito and Masters)-
The twin towers have held onto the belts long enough. I give it to the youngsters.


McMahon vs. Micheals-
Gee I wonder who. Vince gets super-kicked to hell.

Boogyman vs. Booker T + one-
Don't really care. Sucks for Booker to go from main eventing a WM to fighting the Boogyman a couple of years later. Oh well.

Money In the Bank-
Either Flair or RVD. As much as I like Flair I hope it isn't him. It needs to go to a younger wrestler like it did last year with Edge.

Undertaker vs. Mark Henry-
There is no way Henry breaks takers WM record. Orton should have been the one to put the deadman down.

That's it. I don't plan on getting the show so I'll just have to see highlights.

[The Undertaker]

Anti-Cena signs were confiscated prior to last week's Raw taping in Memphis. Although, during Maria's "Kiss Cam" on Raw Unlimited, a sign that read "Cena, I want my money back" made it on camera while a couple was shown kissing. The segment was ended quickly.


Thats balls. When I go to the supershow at MSG in July i'm definitely doing that. I'm paying money and if I want to show who I dislike through a sign, dammit I will.

[Prognosticator]

I will say that if H puts over Cena at WM; I'll swear off WWE forever and ever.

If you're going to make a statement as outlandish as that, I surely hope H wins heartily on Sunday. Nobody swears off WWE forever...Nobody paints baby in a corner either!

[Prognosticator]

:rolleyes:

Hart IS a straight-up *********! Does anyone have the full juice on why Hart doesn't is so bitter? Why wouldn't he speak to Hulk or Flair? That SI interview just makes him look like the real-life heal!

[Prognosticator]

Bret Hart screwed Bret Hart. If it wasn't for his gigantic ego he wouldn't be in this predicament,he'd also probably still have a job in wrestling.

Ditto:down

[Hunter Rider]

Hart IS a straight-up *********! Does anyone have the full juice on why Hart doesn't is so bitter? Why wouldn't he speak to Hulk or Flair? That SI interview just makes him look like the real-life heal!

Hogan screwed Bret in 93 when he was supposed to drop the title to him at KOTR but politically maneuvered himself and dropped it to Yoko instead with a screwy fire camera finish
So Bret was in the right but to still hold that grudge 13 years hence is sad

As for Flair they seem to have always disliked each other but the real heat started when Flair slammed him in his book as a dull worker and poor draw
The thing that really set it off was the fact Flair insinuated that Bret used Owen's death to get back on WCW TV

[Prognosticator]

Do you know what chapter flair talks about hart is b/c i picked up his book on amazon for $4?

[Bad Superman]

While Flair is one of my all-time favorites, his comments regarding Bret were way out of line. As for Hogan, well, Bret got the title back, so I guess he should let that one go.

WOW. . . check this out wrestling game fans

http://ps2.ign.com/

Smackdown VS. RAW 2007 Coming for PS2, PSP, PS3, Xbox 360!!!!!!!!

[Hunter Rider]

Do you know what chapter flair talks about hart is b/c i picked up his book on amazon for $4?

Chapter 15 page 222 is where he starts to talk about Hart

[LastSunrise1981]

If you're going to make a statement as outlandish as that, I surely hope H wins heartily on Sunday. Nobody swears off WWE forever...Nobody paints baby in a corner either!

I hope H wins myself actually. But if he puts over Cena? I'll definitely swear off of it. My reaction would be that out of all the guys he refused to put over, you mean the best he could do is put over Cena and Batista?

That's my logic. :)

[Jason Blood]

While Flair is one of my all-time favorites, his comments regarding Bret were way out of line. As for Hogan, well, Bret got the title back, so I guess he should let that one go.

WOW. . . check this out wrestling game fans

http://ps2.ign.com/

Smackdown VS. RAW 2007 Coming for PS2, PSP, PS3, Xbox 360!!!!!!!!

I can't wait!

I want to see the new moves :D

[Jason Blood]

I think that it won't be long before CM Punk debuts (on Smackdown)

Just looking at his OVW stuff, he's oozing with charisma

[LastSunrise1981]

:rolleyes:

I just read it too. Bret needs to let it go. If Bret walks out because Shawn being there and screwing over the fans, then I'd lose respect for him in that degree.

Shawn has already said though that if Bret doesn't want him there, then he won't be there.

[The FallenAngel]

I think that it won't be long before CM Punk debuts (on Smackdown)

Just looking at his OVW stuff, he's oozing with charismaIf that happens soon, SD! would be ten times better than Raw than it already is. Punk on SD! would rule.

[The FallenAngel]

While Flair is one of my all-time favorites, his comments regarding Bret were way out of line. As for Hogan, well, Bret got the title back, so I guess he should let that one go.

WOW. . . check this out wrestling game fans

http://ps2.ign.com/

Smackdown VS. RAW 2007 Coming for PS2, PSP, PS3, Xbox 360!!!!!!!!Wow, the game looks amazing. I can't wait.

[Sarge 2.0]

Edge vs. Foley-
Knowing Vince, the adulterer probably gets this one.
What does Edge's adultery have to do with Vince? Especially since they haven't brought it up in the angle at all.

[Jason Blood]

If that happens soon, SD! would be ten times better than Raw than it already is. Punk on SD! would rule.
keeping Punk away from HHH and HBK would be a good idea

[The FallenAngel]

Who could Punk have a really good feud with on SD? I'd like to see him go against Orton.

[Sarge 2.0]

Hart IS a straight-up *********! Does anyone have the full juice on why Hart doesn't is so bitter? Why wouldn't he speak to Hulk or Flair? That SI interview just makes him look like the real-life heal!Bret isn't an *******. Is he being stubborn and immature? Yeah. But he's allowed to be bitter, especially after the crap he's had to go through in the last fifteen years or so.

[Prognosticator]

I hope H wins myself actually. But if he puts over Cena? I'll definitely swear off of it. My reaction would be that out of all the guys he refused to put over, you mean the best he could do is put over Cena and Batista?

That's my logic. :)

Perhaps I misunderstood, what do you mean by "put out"?

[Prognosticator]

I hope H wins myself actually. But if he puts over Cena? I'll definitely swear off of it. My reaction would be that out of all the guys he refused to put over, you mean the best he could do is put over Cena and Batista?

That's my logic. :)

Perhaps I misunderstood you when you said "put over". Maybe I've got my terminology backwards, please enlighten me.

[Prognosticator]

Chapter 15 page 222 is where he starts to talk about Hart

Hey, me and a buddy of mine just read the excerps from chapter 15, good stuff!!! thanks.

[3dman27]

any more word out on the wwe superstars novel[s]

[Prognosticator]

Bret isn't an *******. Is he being stubborn and immature? Yeah. But he's allowed to be bitter, especially after the crap he's had to go through in the last fifteen years or so.

...wrong! everyone gets screwed over time and time again. That's THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS! Hogan's was screwed by WCW and guess what, he had the opportunity to buy the whole thing when they later went bankrupt! Shawn did his share of bad things, and look at how that injury almost cost him his career. Austin leaves b/c of JR and WWE/Austin both lose. It's the same, over and over and over, but Hogan isn't bitter. Flair isn't bitter. Shawn isn't bitter. Hart is an ********* for holding onto his past so tight!

[Sarge 2.0]

...wrong! everyone gets screwed over time and time again. That's THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS! Hogan's was screwed by WCW and guess what, he had the opportunity to buy the whole thing when they later went bankrupt! Shawn did his share of bad things, and look at how that injury almost cost him his career. Austin leaves b/c of JR and WWE/Austin both lose. It's the same, over and over and over, but Hogan isn't bitter. Flair isn't bitter. Shawn isn't bitter. Hart is an ********* for holding onto his past so tight!He's holding on to his bitterness towards Shawn because not only were he and Shawn never exactly buddies, but Shawn was consistently an ******* to Bret. The fact that he played a major role in something like the Montreal Screwjob, which was major, unprecedented, and wrong, is why Bret still harbours feelings. It doesn't help that Shawn said in his recent book that Bret wasn't a great wrestler. Should Bret let go? Yes. But that doesn't mean he can't feel bitter about it at all. He should put it behind him, but just because screwjobs happen alot, doesn't mean the Montreal Screwjob was justified. Shawn was an ******* in his young days, and according to all accounts Bret was straight laced back stage.

[Prognosticator]

I'll tell you who really got screwed over...TNA. With a co-owner/co-founder like Jeff Jerrit, captian white-trash deluxe, who NEVER takes himself out of contension! Everyone likes to harp on H for holding the McMahon family trump card, but JJ couldn't work in the sweatshop that produces the laces on H's boots!

[Addendum]

Double J has always been like that. His dad, Jerry, was owner of the USWA which was based in my hometown, Memphis.

And Jerry is also co-owner with Jeff in TNA.

[punishermax]

Double J has always been like that. His dad, Jerry, was owner of the USWA which was based in my hometown, Memphis.

And Jerry is also co-owner with Jeff in TNA.

Not anymore. I don't even think Jerry is with the company anymore. But Panda Energy is majority owner of TNA I do believe.

[Assassin]

and the company that owns morphoplex

[Eric Draven]

H is definitely protective of his spot. I wonder if he consciously holds guys back or thinks he's sincerely doing what's best from a business standpoint (i.e., "they're not ready to go over").

...I know, I know. But even I like to give the slightest benefit of the doubt at times.

I think a bit of both. He may think that he's really the only dominant heel in the WWE at the moment, so it's better for the WWE if he remains the number 1 heel. Also, he probably feels protective of his spot because it's almost human nature to do that at times.

And probably Trips still feels a bit slighted because he was the only one of the clique punished for that incident involving that group....

[Addendum]

Well, if Trips still feels that way about the "MSG incident" then he should move on about it, since it was 10 years ago this May. It's only fair since some are saying Bret Hart should just move on regarding his feelings of the "Montreal Screwjob".

[Eric Draven]

But unlike Bret though, he really hasn't pulled a hissyfit over it for a while. I mean, he could've gotten mad at McMahon for singling him out for punishment over Shawn, Nash, and Hall. Or he could've just gotten pissed at Shawn because he didn't get punished. But instead, he worked his way to the main event (whether legitimately or by sleeping with the bosses daughter) and maybe he just wants to stay there. I really don't know...:confused:

[Addendum]

Shawn was champ at the time. Every single fed does allow some leeway for the titleholder, though the ones with "stroke" have a bit more leeway. Shawn had the belt, and the stroke so he got off scott-free. It happens.

He didn't start with Steph until the McMahon/Helmsley storyline back in late '99 - and all of 2000.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, so maybe that's why Triple H wants to continue being the top dog. So he can continually have this stroke.

[LastSunrise1981]

But unlike Bret though, he really hasn't pulled a hissyfit over it for a while. I mean, he could've gotten mad at McMahon for singling him out for punishment over Shawn, Nash, and Hall. Or he could've just gotten pissed at Shawn because he didn't get punished. But instead, he worked his way to the main event (whether legitimately or by sleeping with the bosses daughter) and maybe he just wants to stay there. I really don't know...:confused:

I believe H worked hard to get to a main event spot, however, I believe he got with Steph so he could and can maintain that particular spot.

I don't think he's as bitter about the MSG incident as he used to be. I do remember how bitter he used to be about it, these days he seems like he's over it and has moved on.

Unlike Bret.

[Warhammer]

Triple needs to turn back into a face.
Hasnt been a face since when.........

since he returned?

[Eric Draven]

I believe H worked hard to get to a main event spot, however, I believe he got with Steph so he could and can maintain that particular spot.

I don't think he's as bitter about the MSG incident as he used to be. I do remember how bitter he used to be about it, these days he seems like he's over it and has moved on.

Unlike Bret.

Yeah, he's not bitter about it anymore, but he's definitely moved himself into a position to make sure something like that doesn't happen to him again. And that may be why he's always trying to make himself look better than anybody else.

[LastSunrise1981]

Triple needs to turn back into a face.
Hasnt been a face since when.........

since he returned?

Will never happen. By his own admission and countless interviews he states he enjoys playing the heel and is never fond of playing a face.

[Sarge 2.0]

Heh. People on the ROH boards are saying that Jimmy goddamn Rave is a better heel than Edge.

Silly ubersmarks.

[Addendum]

Edge is better. He was part of the Brood. :D

[The FallenAngel]

Rave is not better. Edge's presence alone gets a "You suck!" chant. He doesn't even have to say anything. He should be the number one freakin' heel! :mad:

[Sarge 2.0]

I agree with what someone on there said, people (myself included) boo Rave because it's just fun to play along, 'cause he's supposed to be the heel. And he looks like the kind of kid you would beat up in highschool. Other than that he's just ho-hum.

[Sabretooth]

But unlike Bret though, he really hasn't pulled a hissyfit over it for a while. I mean, he could've gotten mad at McMahon for singling him out for punishment over Shawn, Nash, and Hall. Or he could've just gotten pissed at Shawn because he didn't get punished. But instead, he worked his way to the main event (whether legitimately or by sleeping with the bosses daughter) and maybe he just wants to stay there. I really don't know...:confused:
Trips was just getting pushed into the heavyweight scene around his first reign (he was still dating Chyna around that time) I don't think him and Steph got together until his second.

I'm not protecting Triple H when I say this,because Triple H has pissed me off from time to time, but if any of us got the chance to get to the top and stay on top of the business without having to worry about starting over again,and get to sleep with your boss's daughter (who in this case is incredibly hot) would you not take it?

[punishermax]

Trips was just getting pushed into the heavyweight scene around his first reign (he was still dating Chyna around that time) I don't think him and Steph got together until his second.

I'm not protecting Triple H when I say this,because Triple H has pissed me off from time to time, but if any of us got the chance to get to the top and stay on top of the business without having to worry about starting over again,and get to sleep with your boss's daughter (who in this case is incredibly hot) would you not take it?

Exactly, what people fail to realize is that HHH is human. If you've been number 1 for a while, you want to keep that spot when someone else comes along that might challenge you. Also I think it may have even been after his second reign when he started dating Steph in real life, but I'm not positive.

[LastSunrise1981]

Trips was just getting pushed into the heavyweight scene around his first reign (he was still dating Chyna around that time) I don't think him and Steph got together until his second.

I'm not protecting Triple H when I say this,because Triple H has pissed me off from time to time, but if any of us got the chance to get to the top and stay on top of the business without having to worry about starting over again,and get to sleep with your boss's daughter (who in this case is incredibly hot) would you not take it?

If it was me and I was on the top, I'd help out by putting those who the fans want to see over and give other stars a chance to shine

Why do you think Jericho, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Benoit are so much more respected? Because they were willing to help out and not ***** if things didn't go their way.

Fans wanted to see RVD, Jericho, Kane, Booker T, Jeff Hardy, and Edge have a chance to be in the spotlight. Granted you said Kane, RVD, and Booker T aren't the type of guys you want to have lead your company, and maybe you are right, however, nothing is ever set in stone until it is tried and when it has been tried they do away with it quickly.

Which is why I don't think the WWE are trying anymore.

But on a personal level and say if I was the champion, I'd give others a fair shot and not be so paranoid of losing my spot.

[punishermax]

If it was me and I was on the top, I'd help out by putting those who the fans want to see over and give other stars a chance to shine

Why do you think Jericho, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, and Chris Benoit are so much more respected? Because they were willing to help out and not ***** if things didn't go their way.

Fans wanted to see RVD, Jericho, Kane, Booker T, Jeff Hardy, and Edge have a chance to be in the spotlight. Granted you said Kane, RVD, and Booker T aren't the type of guys you want to have lead your company, and maybe you are right, however, nothing is ever set in stone until it is tried and when it has been tried they do away with it quickly.

Which is why I don't think the WWE are trying anymore.

But on a personal level and say if I was the champion, I'd give others a fair shot and not be so paranoid of losing my spot.

The thing is though is if you had that much power and that standing in the company would you give it up. People can say what they want, but if you don't have it how can you know how'd you react.

[Sarge 2.0]

Why do you think wrestlers use their stroke?

Once you've got it, you can lose it at any time. If Angle, Jericho, or RVD had the major stroke that Double J, Trips, or Kevin Nash used to have, you could be damn sure they'd be doing the same stuff. It's natural to want to protect that kind of position, when you have the tools to do it.

[Mister J]

I don't blame the wrestlers (although I don't condone them doing it). Management has to be objective enough to do what's best for business. Of course when the top guy is part of management's family, it makes it messier. Even objective decision can easily be construed as nepotism.

[NDX]

Reading Foley's WWE blog (I hate that word), it looks like he does not plan on wrestling after this match for a while. He also said that this is a make or break match, so to speak, where by the end of this match he will know if he's still a main eventer or just a sideshow attraction.

Another factor to look into when it comes to the Edge/Foley match on Sunday. This could very well be Foley's last hurrah. Let us hope not.

I wish WrestleMania was a better card this year so I can order it (I can actually afford it), but the card is so depressing. MitBII, the real main event of Orton, Rey and Angle and Foley killing Edge still can't entice me to order it.

[punishermax]

Reading Foley's WWE blog (I hate that word), it looks like he does not plan on wrestling after this match for a while. He also said that this is a make or break match, so to speak, where by the end of this match he will know if he's still a main eventer or just a sideshow attraction.

Another factor to look into when it comes to the Edge/Foley match on Sunday. This could very well be Foley's last hurrah. Let us hope not.

I wish WrestleMania was a better card this year so I can order it (I can actually afford it), but the card is so depressing. MitBII, the real main event of Orton, Rey and Angle and Foley killing Edge still can't entice me to order it.

Get like three or four friends together to order it. That's what we're doing. 4 friends, 15 bucks each with the remaining 10 bucks going towards Little Caesars 5 pizzas.

[Donnie Darko]

I'm going to say this now so it is documented so when I complain about it later, no one calls me out on it....

I hope Cena beat HHH at WM. I really don't want Cena as champion right now, but I would much rather have him that HHH. I used to absolutely love him, but now I just get annoyed just looking at him. So yeah, go Cena.

[Addendum]

Get like three or four friends together to order it. That's what we're doing. 4 friends, 15 bucks each with the remaining 10 bucks going towards Little Caesars 5 pizzas.
That's the way right there bro. That was me for 4 years in college.

We also printed up the card, then made our picks. The winner would get a "belt" to wear for a month, until the next PPV. By belt, the ones they sold at Wal-Mart that were part of a WWF playset.

After the WWF started the hardcore title, we had another belt which was our "hard-core" title, and that was for the person whose picks were the worst.

[TheVileOne]

Man I miss PPV parties. Though I actually went to a WM party last year at a friend of a friend's house.

But yeah, WM this year just looks like ass.

[Addendum]

King of the Ring '95 had a better card than this.

[TheVileOne]

Ouch. Now that is harsh :) .

[Mister J]

King of the Ring '95 had a better card than this.

Damn. That's where Mabel won.

Wow.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm going to a WM party on Sunday and for the first time in a long time, I can say that I'm going for the atmosphere. My buddies and I can make a Gillberg match interesting to watch. :D

[NDX]

Get like three or four friends together to order it. That's what we're doing. 4 friends, 15 bucks each with the remaining 10 bucks going towards Little Caesars 5 pizzas.

Problem 1, I only know 2 wrestling fans other than myself.

Problem 2, they are even less excited about WrestleMania this year than I am.

Just not worth it. I'll invest the 25 bucks in the dvd and have the party then.

[TheVileOne]

That sounds like the smarter way to go NDX.

[Eric Draven]

King of the Ring '95 had a better card than this.

Yeah, but is it as bad as Wrestlemania 9? :eek:

[Mister J]

Yeah, but is it as bad as Wrestlemania 9? :eek:

It couldn't be.

[Donnie Darko]

I might see if my brother wants to split the price of TNA Lockdown, but not WM. And of course we'll get One Night Stand.

[Eric Draven]

It couldn't be.

I know. Everytime I see the WM22 card, I just think of WM9 and go "It's not that bad...."

[NDX]

Actually, KotR 95, in my opinion, is much worse than WrestleMania 9, easily. And I have no ****ing clue why, but it's the only KotR I own.

[punishermax]

I know. Everytime I see the WM22 card, I just think of WM9 and go "It's not that bad...."

WM 9 was actually the first PPV I ever got. When you're 7 years old it was awesome. But now that I'm 20, what a disgusting card. Crush/Doink(s), Michaels/Tatanka was all right if I remember correctly, Razor/Backlund why did they even book that match. Hogan & Beefcake/Money Inc. hahaha, Hogan and a cokehead vs. two underrated wrestlers. And the ending, how more retarded can you get. I remember WWF magazine I got after WM 9, it had Hogan and Yoko on the cover, it said Yokozuna The Champ: 120 Seconds. Hogan The Champ: ???? I thought it was great.

Also Cena is on Jimmy Kimmel and uhhhhhh.....I still don't like him. And yet again only the women seem to be cheering for anything he does but the guys aren't cheering at all.

[Addendum]

PPV buy rates

WrestleMania IX - 2.0

King Of The Ring '95 - 0.65

punishermax- you've wisely forgotten Taker vs. Giant Gonzales

[Mister J]

Also Cena is on Jimmy Kimmel and uhhhhhh.....I still don't like him. And yet again only the women seem to be cheering for anything he does but the guys aren't cheering at all.

Good to see that these trends continue. The sooner they let Cena be edgy again, the better.

[punishermax]

PPV buy rates can be misleading especially taking two shows from different years. The buy rate is how many people purchased that had access to it. Although from 93 to 95 couldn't have had that much of an impact so good find. :up:

[punishermax]

Good to see that these trends continue. The sooner they let Cena be edgy again, the better.

The only times when the guys in the crowd cheered was when Cena mentioned the troops in Afghanistan. But the girls screamed and cheered when he did everything.

Cena inhales......women in the crowd go nuts.

[Addendum]

When Cena first entered the WWF, Vince was all about "ruthless aggression".

Then Cena said it, and he looked like he was dropping a load, trying to burst the veins in his neck, or do his "Beavis having a seizure" impression.

[TheVileOne]

Results from ROH 3/30, night one of the 2006 Triple-shot.

Ring of Honor presents...
Dragon Gate Challenge Series
Milestone Series Night 4
March 30, 2006
Detroit, Michigan

Pre-Show Matches:

Mitch Franklin pins Derek Dempsey in a Four Corner Survival featuring Smash Bradley and Bobby Dempsey.

Lacey & Tiana Ringer defeat Allison Danger & Shantelle Taylor in a Tag Team SHIMMER match.

ROH vs Dragon Gate Challenge Series

Homicide defeats Colt Cabana in a Falls Count Anywhere Match. Homicide laid out Cabana, put his head between two legs of a ladder, and "stomped the *****" out of Cabana's head.

Ricky Reyes upsets Chad Collyer with the dragon sleeper.

BJ Whitmer pins Jimmy Jacobs after a lariat. During the match, a seemingly purposeful and worked botch occured while BJ had Jimmy on the top rope. They brawled in the middle of the ring afterward. Jacobs refused to shake Whitmer's hand. Whitmer also claimed Hero & The Necro Butcher were in the building.

Ryo Saito defeats Jimmy Yang.

ROH & KENTA Return to Detroit on June 23.

Jimmy Rave & Alex Shelley defeat Bryan Danielson & Delirious. Delirious was pinned.

INTERMISSION - Crowd estimate: Between 400-450

Claudio Castagnoli defeats Shane Hagadorn. After the match, Chris Hero enters the ring and bashes Claudio for turning his back on CZW. BJ Whitmer rushes to the ring, but is beaten down by Hero & The Necro Butcher. Claudio then proves his ROH loyalty again by coming to the aid of BJ Whitmer.

AJ Styles & Matt Sydal defeat Dragon Kid & Genki Horiguchi. Styles pins Dragon Kid with the Styles Clash.

Blood Generation (CIMA, Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino) defeats Generation Next (Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, Jack Evans). CIMA pinned Jack Evans. The last 8 minutes were described to me as being "absolutely insane, some of the best stuff ever."

Christopher Daniels defeats Samoa Joe in a Grudge Match. Christopher Daniels came to the ring as TNA X-Division Champion. Joe & Daniels are brawling all over the entrance way and have yet to make the ring. Daniels pins Joe...Hero & Necro come out and stare down Daniels while Joe is on the outside. Joe gets back in the ring, and a huge brawl begins. Hero & Necro are eventually kicked out of the building. Joe declares war between CZW and ROH.


Daniels claims his first ever one on one victory over Samoa Joe.

[Sarge 2.0]

****, I need to get that show. :(

It'll be more worth it than Mania, obviously. :o

[nite-owl]

And you Fought Batman and Robin was bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG5YiwPOTqw&search=Andre%20the%20Giant

[Bad Superman]

Well, I invited my friends to watch Wrestlemania on my new home, so I guess I was screwed by the line up a while ago. Next time I won't make plans so early as this year. This year's WM is not worth the money.

[Hunter Rider]

The body of the card is actually pretty good IMO,4 matches in particualr could be superb
The main problem is the amount of Focus on Cena vs HHH given how no one anywhere seems to care and the awful Vince./Shawn feud being made so important by WWE

[Bad Superman]

I only look forward to three matches Angle VS. Mysterio VS. Orton, MIB2 and Edge VS. Foley. $50 bucks for three matches its a bit over the top. :down

[Jason Blood]

- PWInsider reports that developmental talent and OVW wrestler Osama is being called up to the main roster and will make his WWE debut this Monday night on Raw.

Credit- Gerweck.net

I've seen some of the his promos from OVW and he looks okay, it could be an angle involving that Dalip guy

I hope this means that CM Punk will be called up soon

[Bad Superman]

Osama? I hope they change his name.

[Jason Blood]

I'm still waiting for that special time that I actually order a PPV

then again I don't even have a PPV box

[Jason Blood]

Osama? I hope they change his name.
That's the point of his name I think

he has some sort of cuban gimmick in OVW

he's done an arabic gimmick before though

[Bad Superman]

That's the point of his name I think

he has some sort of cuban gimmick in OVW

he's done an arabic gimmick before though

If WWE goes with the arabic gimmick again they're risking another "Muhammed Hassan incident".

Is he good?

[Jason Blood]

If WWE goes with the arabic gimmick again they're risking another "Muhammed Hassan incident".

Is he good?
he's pretty good with the promos, haven't seen a match of his

I wouldn't be surprised if they actually bring Hassan back

[Mister J]

I liked Hassan's character. Decent worker and pretty good on the mic. The whole angle surrounding him took a life of its own and I guess he had to go. They did push it pretty far considering the timeframe when it took place.

[Jason Blood]

I was just thinking about how the Complete Shot in HCTP and SVR was awesome and then in SVR 2006, they changed the damn move and made it suck

I also think that Hassan was a great worker

[Hunter Rider]

I only look forward to three matches Angle VS. Mysterio VS. Orton, MIB2 and Edge VS. Foley. $50 bucks for three matches its a bit over the top. :down

Those are my top 3 as well but i also think Benoit vs JBL could be great and Cena vs HHH has a unique curiosity to it plus Mickie vs Trish has been built great and both women can work so now the dynamic is properly set it should be fun

Taker/Henry i think will be better than some think but is hampered by the fact the ending is 100% certain

[Hunter Rider]

PWInsider.com reports that a fan who refused to take off a TNA shirt he wore to RAW on Monday in Omaha, NE was ejected from the event and refused a refund for his ticket.

Thats just plain pathetic

[Jason Blood]

Thats just plain pathetic
I agree

[Mister J]

That's ridiculous. I understand tickets being revocable licenses and all, but to refuse a refund when there's no aberrant behavior is out of line.

[3dman27]

That's ridiculous. I understand tickets being revocable licenses and all, but to refuse a refund when there's no aberrant behavior is out of line.
i concur its none of the wwe's buisness what kind of shirts their PAYING CUSTOMERS are wearing

[Bad Superman]

I liked Hassan too. He had the potential of becoming a cool heel champion in any brand.

[Hunter Rider]

http://rapidshare.de/files/10558981/20051211.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/10558981/20051211.wmv.html)

Brock vs Nagata

http://rapidshare.de/files/16700915/Brock_Lesnar_vs_Akebono.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/16700915/Brock_Lesnar_vs_Akebono.wmv.html)

Lesnar vs Akebono

[Jason Blood]

http://rapidshare.de/files/10558981/20051211.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/10558981/20051211.wmv.html)

Brock vs Nagata

http://rapidshare.de/files/16700915/Brock_Lesnar_vs_Akebono.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/16700915/Brock_Lesnar_vs_Akebono.wmv.html)

Lesnar vs Akebono
Thanks for the Nagata match

I don't care to watch Akebono though...

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks for the Nagata match

I don't care to watch Akebono though...
Yeah Akebono aint the best

Brock vs Shinsuke Nakamura

http://rapidshare.de/files/10504372/NJPW_-_Brock_Lesnar_vs_Nakamura.zip

[Jason Blood]

Yeah Akebono aint the best

Brock vs Shinsuke Nakamura

http://rapidshare.de/files/10504372/NJPW_-_Brock_Lesnar_vs_Nakamura.zip
I wish I could download this but that damn rapidshare limit

I gotta wait a frickin hour

Thank you

I guess this means I forgive your avatar...

[Hunter Rider]

I wish I could download this but that damn rapidshare limit

I gotta wait a frickin hour

Thank you

I guess this means I forgive your avatar...

errrr,ok:confused: your welcome:up:

[Jason Blood]

errrr,ok:confused: your welcome:up:
Tom Cruise

Nuff' Said

[Hunter Rider]

Tom Cruise

Nuff' Said

:rolleyes: ok.....

[Hunter Rider]

Taz vs Jericho in ECW

http://rapidshare.de/files/851750/wrestling-ECW_-_Chris_Jericho_Vs_Taz.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.de/files/851750/wrestling-ECW_-_Chris_Jericho_Vs_Taz.wmv.html)

[Colossal Spoons]

I see a lot of y'all are lookin forward to the Edge/Foley match. I'm an Edgehead but Foley puts me to sleep. What he did to Edge 2 weeks ago was freakin nuts and maybe if he acts like a hardcore lunatic(Cac. Jack) then the match could be awesome; but not otherwise.

[TheVileOne]

Thats just plain pathetic

That he was ejected or that he didn't accept the refund?

The story sounds a little weird, I wonder if its legit.

[TheVileOne]

http://pjstar.com/stories/033006/CUE_B9B3RB86.061.shtml

Interview with Chris Benoit about Eddie Guerrero.

[Hunter Rider]

That he was ejected or that he didn't accept the refund?

The story sounds a little weird, I wonder if its legit.

The fact he was ejected for having a shirt on of a rival promotion,the WWE must have been on full anal alert that night as they confiscated Cena diss signs as well

[Colossal Spoons]

^Ooooh. I thought it said "...and he WAS refused a refund for his ticket." Why the hell didn't he take his money back?

[TheVileOne]

Sorry, I misread it as he refused a refund for his own ticket.

Thanks for all the matches by the way hunter rider. I wonder where you get them ;) .

Its not the first time though. WWE has reportedly torn up TNA signs and conducted similar behavior before.

For a company that thinks TNA is NOT competition, and a company that claims they WANT competition . . . WWE really doesn't want anybody to know about TNA.

[TheVileOne]

Lesnar looks a lot different now in Japan.

He looks like his head and neck has thickened out, a lot.

[Colossal Spoons]

Sorry, I misread it as he refused a refund for his own ticket.
Thanks for all the matches by the way hunter rider. I wonder where you get them ;) .

Its not the first time though. WWE has reportedly torn up TNA signs and conducted similar behavior before.

For a company that thinks TNA is NOT competition, and a company that claims they WANT competition . . . WWE really doesn't want anybody to know about TNA.

It can be taken either way. Sloppy article.

[Hunter Rider]

Sorry, I misread it as he refused a refund for his own ticket.

Thanks for all the matches by the way hunter rider. I wonder where you get them ;) .

Its not the first time though. WWE has reportedly torn up TNA signs and conducted similar behavior before.

For a company that thinks TNA is NOT competition, and a company that claims they WANT competition . . . WWE really doesn't want anybody to know about TNA.

I have multi sourceshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif are you a DVDR member ?

I agree with what you say about WWE and their paranoia over TNA,the fact they have signed a bunch of useless free agents just in case TNA managed to do something with them smacks of insecurity

[Jason Blood]

something I was just wondering about

how did Hogan go from the way he looked in the 80s to the way he looks today?

[Hunter Rider]

something I was just wondering about

how did Hogan go from the way he looked in the 80s to the way he looks today?
Hogan gas been on and off the gas for years and it has altered his look

[TheVileOne]

I have multi sourceshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif are you a DVDR member ?


Nah, is that legal? Is it a paid service?


I agree with what you say about WWE and their paranoia over TNA,the fact they have signed a bunch of useless free agents just in case TNA managed to do something with them smacks of insecurity

Yes. But not just useless free agents, useless free agents they fired, some who weren't even out with an injury or whatever.

I think the ONLY reason they brought back Haas just after firing him was to keep him out of TNA.

The other thing that puzzles me is Shannon Moore. Another guy they fired who they just take back after he was actively working in TNA. They don't have a legit CW despite everything, and they never did anything with Moore. So I wonder why they signed him back.

[Sarge 2.0]

Even his facial structure is totally different. By the nineties he looked closer to how he does today...steroids are a helluva drug.

[Hunter Rider]

Nah, is that legal? Is it a paid service?

Yes it's free and legal,they only post Puro stuff there and it's all fine because it is brodcast on free TV




Yes. But not just useless free agents, useless free agents they fired, some who weren't even out with an injury or whatever.

I think the ONLY reason they brought back Haas just after firing him was to keep him out of TNA.

The other thing that puzzles me is Shannon Moore. Another guy they fired who they just take back after he was actively working in TNA. They don't have a legit CW despite everything, and they never did anything with Moore. So I wonder why they signed him back.


Agreed,they just wanted to prevent Haas from making an impact in TNA which he genuinely could have IMO

They signed Moore just to show TNA they have the power

[TheVileOne]

Yes it's free and legal,they only post Puro stuff there and it's all fine because it is brodcast on free TV


OOh, tell me more about this!


They signed Moore just to show TNA they have the power

If that's true I really can't make sense of that. This is a guy they fired because to him he was useless and they had nothing for him to do. So now they are spending more money on Moore than TNA did just to show power? I dunno, that feels like a rather silly show of power to me.

[Hunter Rider]

OOh, tell me more about this!

Go to this link and sign up,just a message board like this:up:

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/index.php?act=idx




If that's true I really can't make sense of that. This is a guy they fired because to him he was useless and they had nothing for him to do. So now they are spending more money on Moore than TNA did just to show power? I dunno, that feels like a rather silly show of power to me.


I agree but it looked like WWE flexing their billion dollar muscles just to show TNA they can outbid them and show the wrestling fanbase that wrestlers would rather job on Velocity than work for TNA

[TheVileOne]

That is pretty depressing.

And its one of the reasons why I hope TNA cuts out all the dumb crap and becomes a serious competitor.

[Eric Draven]

That's the point of his name I think

he has some sort of cuban gimmick in OVW

he's done an arabic gimmick before though

That promo I saw of him on utube was a bit annoying....:(

But he's supposedly getting good responses with his "Governor of Kentucky" gimmick though :confused:

[Jason Blood]

He looks pretty funny

I wonder if he'll come in and team with Carlito

that would be pretty funny

[Hunter Rider]

From the Observer

"Due to an on-going legal battle with Jim Crockett, WWE can no longer use the trademarked name 'Ric Flair' from this point forward. Until this matter is settled, the WWE-trademarked name, 'Rick Flair' will be used."

[Eric Draven]

The whole rolling of the tongue when he says his middle name will get pretty tiring after a while though.

He looks more like a manager anyways. I don't even recall hearing about a match involving him at any time :confused:

[Eric Draven]

From the Observer

"Due to an on-going legal battle with Jim Crockett, WWE can no longer use the trademarked name 'Ric Flair' from this point forward. Until this matter is settled, the WWE-trademarked name, 'Rick Flair' will be used."

April Fool's isn't until tomorrow :confused:

[Hunter Rider]

April Fool's isn't until tomorrow :confused:

Thats what some thought but Meltzer confirmed he got an email from WWE

[Jason Blood]

Jamie Noble and Kid Kash are being wasted :mad:

[Eric Draven]

Thats what some thought but Meltzer confirmed he got an email from WWE

I dunno, this seems a bit suspicious, especially since news like this is all of a sudden coming up on March 31st.....

[Addendum]

Yeah. April Fools would probably involve Gillbert, Doink and the Gobbledygooker in a match against Fake Razor, Underfaker, and the return of the Shockmaster, with Pete Rose as special referree

[Mister J]

From the Observer

"Due to an on-going legal battle with Jim Crockett, WWE can no longer use the trademarked name 'Ric Flair' from this point forward. Until this matter is settled, the WWE-trademarked name, 'Rick Flair' will be used."

You know, during that glorious Triple H vignette on Raw, where people were talking about The Game-uh, he was listed as "Rick Flair". I just brushed it off as a laughable mistake and gave it no credence.

Hmmmmmmmmm......

[Hunter Rider]

Credit: PWInsider.com

- Featured on Direct TV's channel IAC 115, is an interactive section dedicated to WWE WrestleMania 22. It's currently featuring biographies of Triple H, and current WWE Champion, John Cena. It also includes a thirty-six piece puzzle of Triple H delivering an elbow drop to Ric Flair.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[punishermax]

From the Observer

"Due to an on-going legal battle with Jim Crockett, WWE can no longer use the trademarked name 'Ric Flair' from this point forward. Until this matter is settled, the WWE-trademarked name, 'Rick Flair' will be used."

This can't be true? Turner bought up Crockett Promotions and was turned into WCW, and then Vince bought WCW so wouldn't that put the trademark in WWE's hands. Also, most well known wrestlers all ready trademark their names anyway, so this story shouldn't be true.

[Gotenks]

The Miz is here..................HOO RAAAAAAAAA!!

[Jason Blood]

The Miz thing was pretty funny

I have proof that Hardy is going to win at wrestlemania

He's got a new T-Shirt

[Addendum]

And before Flair went to the NWA in '74, he was in the AWA and used the name "Ric Flair".

The WWE has nothing.

[Gotenks]

yeah, but i wanted miz to win against puder, but i hope they make him a serious character as well as a funny one.

[TheVileOne]

I dunno, I think its Flair that is supposed to win on Sunday isn't it?

[Sarge 2.0]

Either him or RVD are supposed to win it, with RVD supposedly using his shot at the ECW PPV.

[TheVileOne]

I think Flair is going to win it. Though it should be RVD.

[NDX]

No love for Joey Styles

The PWTorch Newsletter reports that Jim Ross and Joey Styles have had numerous conversations since Styles started with WWE. Some of the same people who were critics of JR’s work have even been hard on Styles from the beginning, perhaps because of Style’s criticism of the company in his online commentaries in the past.

“Joey is in a tough spot,” says one WWE source “the expectations of him are unfairly high.”

Rather than being produced and encouraged, Styles is usually yelled at and derided by those in upper management, including Vince himself.

Sources say that when he first got with WWE, he had a “go with the flow” kind of attitude, however his treatment must be starting to take a toll on his best attempts to stay in good spirits.

[Sarge 2.0]

God ****ing Dammit. :(

I hope Joey gets treated better, or finds work elsewhere. And things were seeming so good when he said he was under J.R.'s wing for a bit.

[TheVileOne]

Styles should've foreseen this when he signed with WWE.

The only reason they got him is because they couldn't get the UFC announcer and JR was gone.

[DarthSkywalker]

I think Flair is going to win it. Though it should be RVD.

No reason at all for RVD to win. Flair is probably the best choice, but i would lose it if Finlay pulled it out.

[TheVileOne]

It's a ladder match. Flair is older than ****ing dirt. RVD is the person they should be pushing to the moon.

[DarthSkywalker]

It's a ladder match. Flair is older than ****ing dirt. RVD is the person they should be pushing to the moon.

RVD is dull, and incapable of having a good match. Not to mention that as hard as the WWE pushes him, he always turns to not be able to produce without something to hit someone with. That and the fans don't seem to care for him all that much anymore.

Flair though, Flair is still the man. Cage match with Flair just 5 months ago was better then anything RVD ever did. Besides the WWE doesn't seem to want to pass on the chance of Flair blood staind wearing his 17th World Title while the entire lockroom empties. Also this is the man that always finds a way to win.

Yeah Flair is so going to win this.

[TheVileOne]

Bah, RVD had great matches in the past with Jericho, Lance Storm, Eddie Guerrero, and Benoit. And there were no chairs or ladders in them.

[DarthSkywalker]

Bah, RVD had great matches in the past with Jericho, Lance Storm, Eddie Guerrero, and Benoit. And there were no chairs or ladders in them.

Yeah he worked with Benoit and Guerrero. Two of the best pro wrestlers ever. Storm was good, and Jericho made Cena look good last year. So yeah, having "Good" (The only thing close to a great match he ever had with any of them was his ladder match with Guerrero) matches with the likes of them isn't really all that hard.

But hey he still will probably get a title shot at One Night Stand. That will hopefully involve HHH murdering him.

[Sabretooth]

Fans don't like RVD? Dude,just weeks after his return the fans were going ape **** for him.

[DarthSkywalker]

Fans don't like RVD? Dude,just weeks after his return the fans were going ape **** for him.

And then they were dead as a door nail for his first singles match back, and he got booed this past monday when he attacked Flair. Yep he is really over.

[punishermax]

Yeah he worked with Benoit and Guerrero. Two of the best pro wrestlers ever. Storm was good, and Jericho made Cena look good last year. So yeah, having "Good" (The only thing close to a great match he ever had with any of them was his ladder match with Guerrero) matches with the likes of them isn't really all that hard.

But hey he still will probably get a title shot at One Night Stand. That will hopefully involve HHH murdering him.
Eventhough I'm a fan of both HHH and RVD, this statement made me laugh. Good stuff. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Flair wins MITB and cashes it in the same night beating Haitch=Awesome:up:
Then he can transition it back to Edge at Backlash:O

[Sarge 2.0]

And then they were dead as a door nail for his first singles match back, and he got booed this past monday when he attacked Flair. Yep he is really over.What Raw's have you been watching? He was the most over in his Road to Wrestlemania matches, and the only reason he was booed was because he was attacking Ric Goddamn Flair. HBK was booed when he faced Hulk Hogan, as was the Rock. Triple H even managed to garner a few boo's against Flair as well. And you're just completely incorrect about him being incapable of having good matches on his own. Completely.

[The FallenAngel]

Results from last night, 3/31, night number two of the ROH Triple Shot:

1. Samoa Joe & Adam Pearce DEFEATED two ROH students in 1:32.

2. FOUR CORNER SURVIVAL - Ricky Reyes DEFEATED Delirious, Flash Flanagan, & Shane Hagadorn when Reyes made Delirious tap.

3. Jimmy Rave & Alex Shelley DEFEATED Jimmy Yang & Claudio Castagnoli when Rave pinned Castagnoli.

- Chris Hero has the mic...He claims war on Claudio.

4. FIRST BLOOD MATCH - Ace Steel DEFEATED Chad Collyer when Steel hit Collyer with a tombstone piledriver on a metal ROH sign.

5. A.J. Styles & Matt Sydal DEFEATED Austin Aries & Jack Evans when Sydal pinned Evans after a SSP.

- ROH and KENTA return to Chicago on June 24th.

6. Do Fixer of Dragon Kid, Genki Horiguchi, & Ryo Saito DEFEATED Blood Generation of CIMA, Nauki Doi, & Masato Yoshino when Kid pinned Doi in what rjmc described as "AMAZING!!!".

INTERMISSION

7. SHIMMER SIX WOMAN MAYHEM - MisChif DEFEATED Daizee Haze, Allison Danger, Cheerleader Melissa, Lacey, & Rain.

8. Homicide DEFEATED Mitch Franklin.

- Colt Cabana has arrived...We thought FWH was on, but Homicide just destroyed Cabana.

- Chris Hero & Necro Butcher are invading...Adam Pearce & Claudio Castagnoli attack...Huge Brawl...Jim Cornette attacks Butcher with a bat...Samoa Joe runs off Hero...Joe calls out Christopher Daniels...Daniels answers...Jimmy Jacobs comes out.

9. Samao Joe DEFEATED Jimmy Jacobs & Christopher Daniels when he choked out Jacobs.

10. Bryan Danielson DEFEATED Roderick Strong to retain the ROH World Title with a rollup in 56:02.

[Donnie Darko]

if RVD challenges for the title at ONS, he HAS to win it. Otherwise, the ECW fans would freakin riot.

[Sabretooth]

RVD got booed in his first singles match because Snitsky was getting too much offense. The crowd went back to normal once he gained momentum.

[Jason Blood]

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[da creole kid]

^^^Which is why John Cena is going to main event for the forseeable future.

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks to Tom Giannopoulos for sending this in:

I first attended the Press Conference at The Chicago Theatre. I saw Cena enter The Chicago Theatre, and he only greeted fans for a couple seconds and then made his way into the theatre for the conference. Afterward, when the superstars were walking out into their limousines, none of them interacted with the fans at all. Suprisingly, John Cena walked straight into his limo, and drove off, but Triple H greeted, and INTERACTED with the fans a lot!! In return, fans chanted his name!! After fans started chanting "Triple H" over and over, Triple H, looking completely stunned, climbed the limo, and posed for everybody a good couple seconds, and even gave thanks for chanting his name!!!

Today, John Cena was at Gameworks in Schaumburg, Illinois for an autograph session. It was suppose to go from 6:00 until 8:00 and I stood outside for 4 hours trying to meet him. I got poured on by rain, and I froze nearly to death, as did almost every fan out there. He only took the first 600, and told security to get rid of the rest. At which point, security blocked off the entrance to Gameworks, and even dismissed a lot of the people that had already made it inside the building!!! Not to mention, he did this as it was only 7:30.. Cutting it a half hour shorter than scheduled. If this doesn't spell out a***ole, I don't know what does..

Silly Johnny:(

[Eklypze]

:up: Flair wins MITB and cashes it in the same night beating Haitch=Awesome:up:
Then he can transition it back to Edge at Backlash:O
if RVD challenges for the title at ONS, he HAS to win it. Otherwise, the ECW fans would freakin riot.:up: :up:

[Sarge 2.0]

Silly Johnny:(Man, I hope those aren't fake or exaggerated, because that made my day. And it's nice to hear someone say something about Triple H that doesn't involve the words "bosses daughter" every once in a while.

[The FallenAngel]

I've been reading up, and all I see is good things about the past two ROH shows. Particularly the Dragon Gate match from last night, and Strong/Danielson III, also last night. I'd say these are without a doubt must haves when they come out on DVD.

[Sarge 2.0]

I heard Marafuji wasn't getting much love, which sucks.

[Sabretooth]

Silly Johnny:(
Sounds like a pretty bad April Fool's joke just to get us to hate Cena more. I doubt Cena would completely alienate his fanbase like that.

[The FallenAngel]

I heard Marafuji wasn't getting much love, which sucks.Yeah, they were more interested in KENTA, and dying to see Joe/KENTA go at it during the match. Can't blame them, though.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=17267&p=1


SHAWN MICHAELS SAYS HE WILL BE AT THE WWE HALL OF FAME CEREMONY TONIGHT AND COMMENTS ON BRET HART
by Buck Woodward @ 3:05:00 PM on 4/1/2006

As part of the promotion for Wrestlemania, Shawn Michaels had an autograph signing session at Borders bookstore today, which had one of the best turnouts of any of the promotional appearances this week. Over 800 fans were reportedly turned away while somewhere in the neighborhood of 500-600 were able to get in during the allotted time. Michaels was said to be very pleasant, chatting with fans as he signed.

Several fans asked Shawn Michaels if he would be attending the Hall Of Fame ceremony tonight, and Michaels responded that yes, he would be at the Hall Of Fame. According to several sources at the signing, at one point Michaels asked a group of fans "Why wouldn't I be?" and one of them simply said "Bret".

Michaels responded that he doesn't have a problem with Bret Hart, "Bret has a problem with me". Michaels said he is "required" to be at the Hall Of Fame ceremony tonight, and he would be there.

Oh boy lol

[Sarge 2.0]

****.

Looks like Bret won't be showing up. :(

Either that, or some weird stuff is gonna go down on live tv. :o

[The FallenAngel]

I'm calling it. April fools joke on the world. All a work. Yup. :o

[DarthSkywalker]

Dragon retaining in 56 mins is the greatest thing ever.

[Eric Draven]

I'm calling it. April fools joke on the world. All a work. Yup. :o

Well there was speculation that the entire Montreal Screwjob was just one huge work. I guess we'll have to see for tonight...


Or this could all be one huge April Fool's Day joke.


I'm betting on the latter :o

[Hunter Rider]

Believe it or not, WWE changed the finishes to five major WrestleMania 22 matches as recently as yesterday and remain unsure as to how to book the show. The indecisiveness, mainly on Vince McMahon's part, has made it impossible to plan the post-Mania schedule. WWE's top management is extremely stressed out at this point trying to finalize booking of the show.

Credit: WrestlingObserver

hmmmmmmmm

[Sarge 2.0]

...

What the ****? :confused:

My guess on the changes:

Shelton wins MITB
Kane and Show Retain
Cena Retains
Orton wins
Henry wins

[Hunter Rider]

WON notes

Shawn/Vince is getting the most layout work for WM, Dave hints at double juice and table spots

Beniot vs JBL have had “PPV quality” house show bouts recently …long matches…. So they could steal the show in some way

Taker has been working long matches with Mark Henry to “teach Henry as much as he could” prior to WM

Kurt Angle’s bad neck acted up again this week

Boogeyman suffered a torn biceps in a warm up vs Booker T this week… WM’s match may be canceled or way short and Boogey will be out for a while after WM


I hope the Boogey/Booker match gets replaced with MNM vs London Kendrick

[The Batman]

...

What the ****? :confused:

My guess on the changes:

Shelton wins MITB
Kane and Show Retain
Cena Retains
Orton wins
Henry wins

hahhahahahahahahhaha! They could change it 50 times, Taker will still beat henry. This is surprising coming from you sarge.

[Sarge 2.0]

I'm just saying, they're booking has just been screwy lately, and changing a major match which will screw up Post-Mania plans sounds like ending Takers streak. Not that I want that to happen, especially if Henry is the guy to do it, but it seems likely.

[Jason Blood]

That Dalip guy could always debut and help Mark Henry beat Undertaker

he's probably going to debut after Undertaker wins (from what I've read before)

[Hunter Rider]

Actually Henry winning makes a lot more sense as he has beaten both Rey and Angle and if Rey wins the title he is the ideal challenger for him,plus Taker is leaving again after Mania and serves no purpose by winning.
He can come back for Summerslam and get his win back

[The FallenAngel]

I don't think Henry will end Taker's streak. Considering Henry will most likely not come back after his contract is up, I doubt it will be him. I do think that the changes could be along the lines of Orton winning, Cena retaining, and the rest, I'm not sure. Bookers might actually make some smart moves from all this confusion.

[Eric Draven]

I would rather they keep Undertaker's WM streak intact for one more year. Then next year, at WM 23 have Undertaker's "final" (if that's what they're going for) WM match be against the other guy with an undefeated WM streak: Edge. A passing of the torch as you will....:o

[The FallenAngel]

Edge vs. Taker? I'm so there. :up:

[Eric Draven]

Just imagine for the build-up in that match as well (well assuming Edge does beat Foley at 22). Undefeated WM streak going against Undefeated WM streak. Potentially Undertaker's last WM match. They could even have a long build-up for it as well. Like even have Edge come out the Raw after WM 22 and say he's going after Undertaker....

[Hunter Rider]

But Edge's streak is only 5 and 0 to Takers 14 and 0

[Colossal Spoons]

...

What the ****? :confused:

My guess on the changes:

Shelton wins MITB
Kane and Show Retain
Cena Retains
Orton wins
Henry wins

Aside from Shelton's victory, that makes for a ****ty WM :down:

[Eric Draven]

But Edge's streak is only 5 and 0 to Takers 14 and 0

You have to start somewhere though. It'll be a great way to pass the torch.

And really, Undertaker is 14 and 0, but half those victories were nothing more than padding his record. The five victories Edge has may be more substantial. Quality over quantity. Which could be used in the feud as well ;)

[Jason Blood]

Shelton is the IC champ

he has little to no mic skills

He's not going to win

[Twitch]

How long is the HOF ceremoney?

2 hours?

[Jason Blood]

I think just one for TV

I'm going to be watching Impact anyway

[The Batman]

you guys are kidding right?

You guys actually think Mark Henry has a snoballs chance in hell of ending the undertakers streak????

lmao....come on guys....come on...i know its april fools, but....no. Henry's on his way out. This push only happened because his ten year contract is finally up. he's gone by the end of the year. Hell, i'll be surprised if he makes it to june

[Hunter Rider]

you guys are kidding right?

You guys actually think Mark Henry has a snoballs chance in hell of ending the undertakers streak????

lmao....come on guys....come on...i know its april fools, but....no. Henry's on his way out. This push only happened because his ten year contract is finally up. he's gone by the end of the year. Hell, i'll be surprised if he makes it to june

I didn't say i think he would i just think it would be the right thing to do

[NDX]

As much as I want to see the HoF ceremony, I'll just wait to get it with the WM22 dvd. Check out impact instead.

Maybe, just maybe, during the commercials, I'll check out the HoF.

[Sabretooth]

I think it'd be stupid to have Undertaker retire with an undefeated streak. So many superstars can use that oppurtunity to go to the main spotlight. I was hoping it'd be Orton,but that's out of the window,then Edge should take it.

And I think alot of people underestimate henry. Yeah,he doesn't have the presence of Batista or Undertaker or other big men,but the man is more athletic than most of the stars WWE has in the main event. I don't know why WWE is so eager to release him.

[The FallenAngel]

I was going to watch the HoF ceremony instead of iMPACT, but I don't know...only people I care about are Bret and Eddie.

[Eric Draven]

Apparently, Cena is getting savagely ripped apart in his induction of the Fridge :confused:

[Prognosticator]

The idea, the EVEN IDEA that they are inducting Willaim "the refridgerator" Perry into the WWE HALL OF FAME is the biggest dumb@$$ move i have seen in a LONG time. Talk about taking any validity the hall had of meaning something to superstars past/present/future:(

[Eric Draven]

You could've said the same thing when Pete Rose got inducted back in WM20.....

[Twitch]

Apparently, Cena is getting savagely ripped apart in his induction of the Fridge :confused:

lol :o

[Mister J]

Fridge going in a cheap way of trying to cash in on the Chicago crowd. I practically forgot he was in that Battle Royal. Rose, while still bad, at least made a couple of appearances to get Chokeslammed/Tombstone. Plus, it was a shot at all the publicity Rose was getting for likely never being enshrined in Cooperstown. It was cheap, but somewhat funny.

I guess the Governator will be next. He did get a honorary Championship Belt after all.

[Hunter Rider]

Apparently, Cena is getting savagely ripped apart in his induction of the Fridge :confused:

Yeah it was ****ing retarded and Cena dealt with it well despite HHH trying to put himself over by standing up so the fans would chant his name

Oh and CM punk is in the audience with Maria:up:

[Jason Blood]

they need to induct Bob Backlund sometime

[Twitch]

Yeah it was ****ing retarded and Cena dealt with it well despite HHH trying to put himself over by standing up so the fans would chant his name

Oh and CM punk is in the audience with Maria:up:

I didn't see him :(

[Jason Blood]

Sherri is so damn funny

is it just me or does Mickie James look hotter than usual?

[The FallenAngel]

The ceremony is in Chicago too, right? If so, Cena will be booed out of the arena tomorrow.

[NDX]

they need to induct Bob Backlund sometime

I'm still wondering why he hasn't been already. Maybe some bad blood we don't know about between him and WWE (or at least that I don't know about)?

How is this ceremony thing going? My connection is slothlike, preventing me from viewing.

That and The Mask Of Zorro is on.

[Hunter Rider]

Sherri Rocks,no one is topping that speech tonight.........and i still totallly would:O

[Prognosticator]

You could've said the same thing when Pete Rose got inducted back in WM20.....

Yeah, I would've if I was on here!

[Prognosticator]

The ceremony is in Chicago too, right? If so, Cena will be booed out of the arena tomorrow.

Yeah, word around here has said that'll happen for months now!

[Jason Blood]

Sherri Rocks,no one is topping that speech tonight.........and i still totallly would:O
I agree

except for that last part

[Prognosticator]

Hey I just started streaming the ceremony when king introduced the million dollar man... Did i miss bret hart or are they saving that for when it comes on usa after 10pm ct?

[NDX]

Hart will be on USA with Guerrero's induction as well, since they are the "big stars" this year.

Still think it's too early for Guerrero when Owen Hart should be in there instead.

[The FallenAngel]

I agree that Owen should be in there along with Bret, but I don't mind seeing Eddie get in there.

[Prognosticator]

Hart will be on USA with Guerrero's induction as well, since they are the "big stars" this year.

Still think it's too early for Guerrero when Owen Hart should be in there instead.

Oh exactly! It felt so forced when they announced Eddie was going in this early!!! Like they were trying to cash in on the moment or the emotion or something! Seriously, Owen didn't reach the heights that Eddie did, but it's just too soon to be throwing this induction in.

[Capt Throbberson]

I'm confused

Did the hall of fame thing start earlier for you guys :confused:


wait nevemind

[Jason Blood]

If they didn't induct Guerrero, some people would have been mad at the WWE

[The FallenAngel]

Off topic but, Bryan Danielson just accepted Samoe Joe's challenge for a ROH Title shot for a future event. Thought I'd share this awesomeness with you all.

[NDX]

Off topic but, Bryan Danielson just accepted Samoe Joe's challenge for a ROH Title shot for a future event. Thought I'd share this awesomeness with you all.
Please... PLEASE let that happen at Lake Grove!

[Capt Throbberson]

Apparently, Cena is getting savagely ripped apart in his induction of the Fridge :confused:
Best thing I heard all day


EDIT: During the Mean Gene speech, all they did was pan to him and they savagly booed

[NDX]

I'm starting to rethink watching Impact over HoFC right now...

News

- It’s also being said that Osama Rodriguez Alejandro will be debuting the night after WrestleMania. His role will be him playing a heel manager with a modified ring name. No reports as of yet as to he will be managing. Recently Alejandro has been working in Ohio Valley Wrestling for quite some time now.

- Reports indicate that major key matches that will take place at tomorrow’s WrestleMania 22 have been changed multiple times. Officials have stated that Vince McMahon has continued to change his mind and has many any post-WrestleMania 22 plans very hard to follow through with. Some even described people as “losing their minds” and that this weekend has been very stressful, as it is the biggest pay-per view of the year.

[DarthSkywalker]

The greatest wrestler in North American history about to put into the HOF. God Eddie was the man.

[The FallenAngel]

That was very nice to watch. Miss him so much.

[Sabretooth]

I came very close to tears during that segment. Just beautiful. :up:

[The FallenAngel]

Please... PLEASE let that happen at Lake Grove!Damn you! Book it for the 100th show in Philly! :mad:

[Sabretooth]

Bretttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!

[Capt Throbberson]

Feels so wierd seeing Bret on a WWE show again.

[Sabretooth]

Triple H is rolling his eyes. He can't stand this. :D

[Capt Throbberson]

Is it me or was he scanning the audience

Probably for Michaels

[Sabretooth]

Yeah I noticed it too. After he said thank you he spent at least 5 minutes looking.

[The Ghoul]

What happened to Brett. He looks like Ozzy

[The FallenAngel]

Nice speech. I'm glad he accepted this and was there. Very nice ceremony.

[LastSunrise1981]

Yeah I noticed it too. After he said thank you he spent at least 5 minutes looking.

I think I did see Michaels there, there was a guy who had his hair tied back exactly like he did. If it was him then he was hidden so far back that Bret wouldn't spot him.

I stood up and gave Bret applause, an ovation, and smiled to see him on the WWE tv again and he truly deserves to be in the HOF. At this point and time, I don't need to see him on a WWE tv anymore. I'm grateful that he kept his promise and showed up one last time.

Thank you Bret. :up:

Was H really rolling his eyes? I was so busy enjoying Bret's speech that I didn't care to notice. ;-)

[Capt Throbberson]

Not really rolling his eyes, but he did have a kinda "meh" look on his face

[Prognosticator]

Decent speech....definitely awkward after all everyone's said about him in books and interviews and after what he said in the SI interview! I wish i could have seen more of everything; the audience, the stagemembers behind him, and all of it in real time. Nice speech though, I was hoping it'd be a bit longer though.

[LastSunrise1981]

Decent speech....definitely awkward after all everyone's said about him in books and interviews and after what he said in the SI interview! I wish i could have seen more of everything; the audience, the stagemembers behind him, and all of it in real time. Nice speech though, I was hoping it'd be a bit longer though.

What took a lot of time was stupid fans chanting for Austin and Hogan to have a match. :down

It was nice to definitely see him on WWE tv, obviously after all that has happened no one thought it'd come true.

I'm not surprised H having that kind of reaction, especially since he has to know he'll probably never have that endless respect and memory where people never forget him.

But no one, at least anyone who is a wrestling fan, will ever forget Bret Hart as he's put on classic matches after classic matches and will always be rememebered for being the absolute best.

What I would've given to see a Bret vs. Angle or Bret vs. Eddie Guerrero match.

Hopefully at the next one Owen, Mr. Perfect, Steamboat, or Rude can be inducted.

[Sabretooth]

After watching some of the 2 hour HOF on the WWE site,Cena handled the crowd ****ing perfectly. After he did that awesome intro for fridge everyone started to cheer. Only part that made me roll my eyes was when Triple H stood his stupid ass up just to get people to cheer his name. Can count on him to do the exact opposite of what a heel is supposed to do.

BUT,enough *****ing for tonight. I should be glad that I was able to watch Eddie again without remarks about him being in hell,as well as seeing Bret Hart on WWE TV even if it's for the last time.

[Sabretooth]

What took a lot of time was stupid fans chanting for Austin and Hogan to have a match. :down

It was nice to definitely see him on WWE tv, obviously after all that has happened no one thought it'd come true.

I'm not surprised H having that kind of reaction, especially since he has to know he'll probably never have that endless respect and memory where people never forget him.

But no one, at least anyone who is a wrestling fan, will ever forget Bret Hart as he's put on classic matches after classic matches and will always be rememebered for being the absolute best.

What I would've given to see a Bret vs. Angle or Bret vs. Eddie Guerrero match.

Hopefully at the next one Owen, Mr. Perfect, Steamboat, or Rude can be inducted.I would've personally liked to have seen Bret,Owen,and Stu get inducted this year. But hey,we still got Bret,Eddie,Gene,Sherri,and Gagne.

[LastSunrise1981]

I would've personally liked to have seen Bret,Owen,and Stu get inducted this year. But hey,we still got Bret,Eddie,Gene,Sherri,and Gagne.

I believe Stu will get inducted soon and I'm hoping Owen is inducted next. Then again, I'd like to see them both inducted next year.

That Eddie segment was emotional, powerful, and very beautiful. Hard to believe that he's gone still too.

I'm going to laugh my ass off if Ultimate Warrior is inducted though. :)

[The FallenAngel]

Bryan Danielson has just defeated Lance Storm via submission with the Cattle Mutilation at 26 minutes. Amazing.

[Sabretooth]

I believe Stu will get inducted soon and I'm hoping Owen is inducted next. Then again, I'd like to see them both inducted next year.

That Eddie segment was emotional, powerful, and very beautiful. Hard to believe that he's gone still too.

I'm going to laugh my ass off if Ultimate Warrior is inducted though. :)
Imagine the hell that he'd raise during his speech :D

[Sabretooth]

Bryan Danielson has just defeated Lance Storm via submission with the Cattle Mutilation at 26 minutes. Amazing.
I thought Storm retired. :confused:

[The FallenAngel]

He did, but he came out just to wrestle AmDrag.

[LastSunrise1981]

Imagine the hell that he'd raise during his speech :D

Hey, I'd pay to see it. :) :up: Of course they'd have to make it a 2 hour event, seeing as his acceptance speech would take up the first hour.

I think he'll eventually patch things up with Vince and get inducted sometime into the future. Whether we agree with his views or not; and to say he's sane would be a complete lie, however, he deserves the recognition and should be inducted in the future.

I'd love to see H's face if it happens though.

How about that Eddie segment? I know that had to be really hard for Vickie.:(

[punishermax]

Hey, I'd pay to see it. :) :up: Of course they'd have to make it a 2 hour event, seeing as his acceptance speech would take up the first hour.

I think he'll eventually patch things up with Vince and get inducted sometime into the future. Whether we agree with his views or not; and to say he's sane would be a complete lie, however, he deserves the recognition and should be inducted in the future.

I'd love to see H's face if it happens though.

How about that Eddie segment? I know that had to be really hard for Vickie.:(

He deserves nothing. He was a crap wrestler, crap on the mic, and the man is a selfish, delusional, piece of crap.