Wrestling

[punishermax]

very good way to start the show :up:

Cena rules as a "face heel"

So would he be a Hace or a Feel?

[LastSunrise1981]

I couldn't resist so I decided to tune in and I like how it appears they're turning Cena into a heel very slowly I might add.

Edge and H were gold on the mic tonight. As much as I hate H and what he's done to far more superior talent, his promo tonight made me chuckle and watching him and Edge go back and forth was funny.

I will say I was half-way expecting Edge to say "The only reason you got your title shots is because of Stephanie McMahon."

[Addendum]

very good way to start the show :up:

Can't go wrong with 20 minutes of boredom, even though the last 3 minutes had some good insults.

And now...tag-team wrestling at it's finest, I say with tongue in cheek

[Sabretooth]

I couldn't resist so I decided to tune in and I like how it appears they're turning Cena into a heel very slowly I might add.

Edge and H were gold on the mic tonight. As much as I hate H and what he's done to far more superior talent, his promo tonight made me chuckle and watching him and Edge go back and forth was funny.

I will say I was half-way expecting Edge to say "The only reason you got your title shots is because of Stephanie McMahon."
Edge would've been my idol if he said that. But he probably would get fired on the spot or Triple H would beat the **** out of him.

[Capt Throbberson]

I think the "Almighty Triple H" comment is the closest anyone will ever come to shooting on him.

[Sabretooth]

I think the "Almighty Triple H" comment is the closest anyone will ever come to shooting on him.
If I could fit Edge and H's conversation into my sig,I soooooo would.



And new tag champs!!!!!!!!!!

[Addendum]

Good job for the dude who predicted the Spirit Squad getting the Tag Titles

[Hunter Rider]

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1954/19jb.gif

here ya go Twitch

Show seems to have started well

[Sarge 2.0]

The three way promo was actually pretty entertaining, and the crowd was definitely hot.

Hopefully HHH's new theme will leak soon.

[Capt Throbberson]

RVD's awesome, but he's not that good on the mic

[LastSunrise1981]

RVD's awesome, but he's not that good on the mic

He was pretty good tonight. I just think he's so used to not being on the mic that it comes off as bad, but he's a lot better than he used to be.

[Sabretooth]

All of that weed ****ed up RVD's voice,I think. :(

[Addendum]

I'm a RVD fan because of his matches. I've never paid much attention to yakking on the mic

[Hunter Rider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/muscle68/mickielickie.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/muscle68/afc1f217.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/323/mickie39ul.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

[Addendum]

Nice!!!:up:

[Sabretooth]

hehehe HR. :D

[punishermax]

HAHAHA...YES!!! Carlito legit spit in his face.

[NDX]

Did Carlito get two pops just now?

[The Apatow Crew]

is carlito turned face now?

[punishermax]

I don't think Carlito turned face, but you never know.

[NDX]

Carlito might go 'tweener now, which I can deal with.

"You had help from... God." What the **** is he on?!

[Hunter Rider]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6315/78hn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Punk at his first Mania

[Addendum]

Quote of the night

Lawler- "McMahon has snapped. He just booked god"

[Sabretooth]

So now Vince is taking out his fury on Shawn Michaels and....God. And there's a tag team match between Shane/Vince and Shawn/God :rolleyes:


Vince is seriously in need of attention,obviously.

[punishermax]

I wonder if God wears kickpads?

[Sarge 2.0]

Dammit, just bring back D-X already. :(

[Addendum]

I'm not sure that god wears kickpads, but he does have an AK-47...

http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net/JCSimages/figures/lfgod.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5255/10ho.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5618/26sg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1773/35pk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9809/41pp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/25/58be.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/127/66ou.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5149/83tn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

[Sabretooth]

What do you suppose his finisher is?

[LastSunrise1981]

Vince/Shane vs. Shawn/God? What the hell is he on? Seriously Vince needs to get some serious help and get some better writers. Who in the hell books a match like that?

So if and when they lose in that match, will they book Shane, Vince, Satan vs. Shawn, Michael(The Archangel), and the Virgin Mary?

[Sabretooth]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I HAD TO SEE THE PIC OF CENA MYSELF! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! :D


He looks so ****ing retarded. Oh my god. AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D

[Sabretooth]

Vince/Shane vs. Shawn/God? What the hell is he on? Seriously Vince needs to get some serious help and get some better writers. Who in the hell books a match like that?

So if and when they lose in that match, will they book Shane, Vince, Satan vs. Shawn, Michael(The Archangel), and the Virgin Mary?
I wonder if they'll actually have a wrestler dress up as God. That would be so ****ed up,but I wouldn't put it past Vince.

[Addendum]

That's what I'm expecting too.

[LastSunrise1981]

I wonder if they'll actually have a wrestler dress up as God. That would be so ****ed up,but I wouldn't put it past Vince.

Well, I wouldn't put it past Vince either. I mean, this is the same man who along with his daughter, okayed the use of necrophilia.

I always knew Vince wasn't all there, but this storyline further confirms that he's a moron and insane.

[Addendum]

Vince is living proof that roids f***s up brains as well as balls

[Capt Throbberson]

What if he'll make "God" kiss his ass :(

[Sabretooth]

What if he made "God" kiss his ass :(
I doubt michaels would go through with that.

[LastSunrise1981]

I doubt michaels would go through with that.

I'm actually quite shocked he's going through with this so far.

[Sabretooth]

I'm actually quite shocked he's going through with this so far.
Well they haven't really done anything controversial.......yet.

[Addendum]

Who will play "God" at Backlash?

Will it be...Gillberg?

http://wrestlingpicsny.tripod.com/gillberg.jpe

Will it be... the Macho Man?

http://www.lacoctelera.com/quefuede/imagen/Randy%20Savage%20en%201991.jpg

Will it be... Hogan?

http://www.quevieneelpeloton.com/miticos/images/hulk-hogan.jpg

or will it be...

http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/Biografie/UltimateWarrior/logo_warrior.jpg

[NDX]

I'm not sure that god wears kickpads, but he does have an AK-47...

http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net/JCSimages/figures/lfgod.jpg

OMG! GOD = LUKE SKYWALKER! AND HE'S PACKING!

C'mon Chavo!

[Sabretooth]

Anybody else miss Chavo's Gory Bomb?

[Addendum]

Chavo better not snap

[NDX]

You know, I always expected Mordecai to be the first one to tag with God, not Shawn.

[The Apatow Crew]

god's finishing move is the Jesus Dropkick.

[Sabretooth]

So now Chavo's quitting? Wow,stupid angles form one after the other tonight on Raw. :down

[LastSunrise1981]

Well they haven't really done anything controversial.......yet.

That's the thing, no matter what happens it's going to be very controversial and it can't be avoided, which is why I'm shocked that Shawn is actually going through it.

By the way, hasn't the WWE already tried this God-like angle? I remember Undertaker being viewed as a Satanic God and ended up crucifying Austin on his cross-like symbol.

I swear Vince has ran out of ideas and has lost his mind.

Chavo quit? What the hell? Is this the WWE's way of dragging the Guerrero name through the mud?

[Addendum]

I'd rather see Chavo quit than him riding around with a toy horse called "Pepe"... wait...


So now Muhammed Hassan is attemping his version of Razor Ramon?

[Sabretooth]

Dalip Singh is about to debut,I think.



EDIT: Of course I have been wrong before. :(

[Donnie Darko]

this dude needs to chill the hell out


HAHA Flair just called him an "island jumpin Cuban"

[Addendum]

So Rikishi is taking notes from Kamala?

[Capt Throbberson]

Wow what an original gimmick

[Addendum]

Ladies and gentlemen... the WWE proudly brings to you, it's newest addition to Wrestlecrap...

UMANGA!!!

[Eric Draven]

At least Osama isn't rolling the tongue anymore when he says his name...:confused:

And isn't Umanga Jamal? :confused:

[Sabretooth]

He had a decent enough finisher.

[Donnie Darko]

it's so weird how TNA puts out such a better product with such a smaller budget

[Donnie Darko]

damn it Edge is so awesome

[Sabretooth]

Anybody know what the hell is all over Lita's face? :confused:

[Addendum]

My bad, Draven. I thought it was Rikishi. I forgot about 3 Minute Warning

[Eric Draven]

Yes, Armando Estrada is more annoying in OVW:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xjq4uiGXqnc&search=OVW

[The Apatow Crew]

Anybody know what the hell is all over Lita's face? :confused: its the herpes.

[Sabretooth]

My god. Cena is so bad they're actually cheering Edge.

[NDX]

Oh thank the maker that was Jamal. For a minute there I was afraid that was a local known as Mana... damn I was ****ing scared.

[The Apatow Crew]

poor cena. he can never win when hes even the champ.

[Donnie Darko]

I really like that they're addressing the crowd booing Cena and stuff, although I still prefer him to HHH.

Looks like HHH is kinda showing signs of a potential face turn.

I really want to see this lead to a threeway match with HHH, Cena and Edge. Let Edge win that, and win RVD cashes in... good stuff

[Capt Throbberson]

poor cena. he can never win when hes even the champ.
I wish that were true

[punishermax]

Anybody know what the hell is all over Lita's face? :confused:

It's bandages from last night when she had barbed wire Mr. Socko.

[NDX]

Now I enjoyed that ending greatly.

[Eric Draven]

Whoever said Cena is playing a face heel right now...they're absolutely right. That's exactly what Cena is doing, and it's working like hell....

[citizenpain]

Anybody know what the hell is all over Lita's face?

she got a barbed wire mr. socko to the mouth last night, so i'm guessing that stuff on her face was make up to cover up the cuts.

[punishermax]

That ending was great.

[Sarge 2.0]

Actually, Edge looks the most primed for a face turn, or at least moving tweener.

[TheVileOne]

So what happened now? Jamal is back? What he do?

[punishermax]

Actually, Edge looks the most primed for a face turn, or at least moving tweener.

How, other than some of the IWC, most fans still can't stand Edge?:confused:

[Eric Draven]

So what happened now? Jamal is back? What he do?

Actually, it's better off you don't know about his return....

[Sarge 2.0]

The setup, considering Triple H is still heel at the moment and the face and he have a common enemy in Triple H. That, and unless my ears decieve me, there was a pop when he entered.

[punishermax]

So what happened now? Jamal is back? What he do?
He is now a Kamala ripoff, with a Cuban manager.

[Eric Draven]

You know, the whole main event is just one huge cluster**** right now, and I'm a bit intrigued....:confused:

[punishermax]

The setup, considering Triple H is still heel at the moment and the face and he have a common enemy in Triple H. That, and unless my ears decieve me, there was a pop when he entered.

Its Chicago, they would pop for anyone with wrestling skill over Cena. Marks hate HHH but they respect him, but they hate Edge and don't respect him. Chicago is just like Canada, New York, Philly, they are a smart crowd.

[Sarge 2.0]

Its Chicago, they would pop for anyone with wrestling skill over Cena. Marks hate HHH but they respect him, but they hate Edge and don't respect him. Chicago is just like Canada, New York, Philly, they are a smart crowd.They didn't respect him when he was face either. He was booed in his home town. I dunno if another face turn would change much, although I may be reading too much into it. Either way, he's a much better heel at the moment.

[punishermax]

They didn't respect him when he was face either. He was booed in his home town. I dunno if another face turn would change much, although I may be reading too much into it. Either way, he's a much better heel at the moment.

Thats probably what it is. I just don't see HHH or Edge going face, but if one of them did, I feel HHH would have an easier time doing it.

[TheVileOne]

What do you guys think would've happened if CM Punk showed up and attacked Flair in his hometown of Chicago?

[Eric Draven]

What do you guys think would've happened if CM Punk showed up and attacked Flair in his hometown of Chicago?

That's exactly what I was hoping to happen when Armando came out and was saying that he had a new wrestler that was going to take over.



Then he brought out Umanga :(

[Prognosticator]

And Triple H saves a painful promo...

Hell yeah!!

[Sarge 2.0]

Switching topics, Trips better start using "The King" theme more often, as I reaaally want it to leak soon. :(

[Prognosticator]

I think the "Almighty Triple H" comment is the closest anyone will ever come to shooting on him.

yeah, it was pretty clear. we all know what that meant.

[LastSunrise1981]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/muscle68/mickielickie.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/muscle68/afc1f217.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/323/mickie39ul.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Now that's awesome! :up: :up:

I call for a Mickie/Trish sex tape! :up:

[Prognosticator]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I HAD TO SEE THE PIC OF CENA MYSELF! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! :D


He looks so ****ing retarded. Oh my god. AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D


Yeah, yeah!!! I didn't know what the H was going on!!?!? It was so rediculous when the oldtime squad car came out! It was cheesy on a whole new level!

[Prognosticator]

,
By the way, hasn't the WWE already tried this God-like angle? I remember Undertaker being viewed as a Satanic God and ended up crucifying Austin on his cross-like symbol.



I remember how the media came down hard on pro-wrestling after they did that satanic stuff! I remember watching that RAW thinking, "This is out of control!"

[Prognosticator]

it's so weird how TNA puts out such a better product with such a smaller budget

I highly doubt it. It can't keep my attention for ONE HOUR...and I try week after week!

[Prognosticator]

Whoever said Cena is playing a face heel right now...they're absolutely right. That's exactly what Cena is doing, and it's working like hell....

It's unique brilliance, and the atmostphere will be on fire as long as it keeps!

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

Who will play "God" at Backlash?

Will it be...Gillberg?

http://wrestlingpicsny.tripod.com/gillberg.jpe

Will it be... the Macho Man?

http://www.lacoctelera.com/quefuede/imagen/Randy%20Savage%20en%201991.jpg

Will it be... Hogan?

http://www.quevieneelpeloton.com/miticos/images/hulk-hogan.jpg

or will it be...

http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/Biografie/UltimateWarrior/logo_warrior.jpg

Maybe Kevin Nash will return to play God.

[punishermax]

Switching topics, Trips better start using "The King" theme more often, as I reaaally want it to leak soon. :(

A short live version from WM 22 is on limewire

[Prognosticator]

That bit w/Chavo was rediculous! I mean, they are talking about a REAL human being who died, and they are running...DRIVING that storyline into the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so sick of everybody beating their chest. EVERYBODY'S doing it. Wrestlers mocking Eddie, Eddie's friends, everybody. Give it a rest and leave it alone! Good grief.

[Sarge 2.0]

A short live version from WM 22 is on limewireCoincidentally, I downloaded that not thirty seconds ago.

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

Whatever became of Randy Orton's new ring music? I only heard it played 1 time on Smackdown & then he went back to using the "Burn In My Light" song.

[Prognosticator]

Triple H was livid at the end of that match! He WAS the friggin' game tonight!

[Donnie Darko]

Maybe Kevin Nash will return to play God.

maybe he'll wear his old Oz costume

[Eric Draven]

We all know who is going to be SHawn's partner at Backlash:



THE WRESTLING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/JBLportrait.jpg

:D

[Savage]

"Stay classy San Diego."

[Mister J]

Nice little exchange between Edge and Triple H to start it off (and mercifully ending Cena's solo).

This whole reverse-face thing with Cena is wacky, but it's starting to catch on. People are hyped to see him get his ass whipped. How stupid did Cena look when going for the Shuffle, then H caught him with the Pedigree? I loved it.

God, I hate the Spirit Squad. Just retire the damn Raw tag belts already.

RVD has got to get more comfortable on the mic.

The whole Chavo thing, :rolleyes:

Please keep the McMahons off TV.

My favorite sign of the night: Vince Needs Jesus

[3dman27]

Please keep the McMahons off TV.

AMEN

[Sarge 2.0]

My favorite sign of the night: Vince Needs JesusHaha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that sign.

So awesome. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

Umanga(Jamal) reminds me of the headshrinkers,i look forward to seeing where it goes:up:

[Bad Superman]

:rolleyes: Just when you thought HBK VS. McMahon's was over. . . .

I think giving the titles to Spirit Squad was wrong. Way to early for them.

Carlito's turn on Masters was cool :up:

Chavo. . . . :confused:

Edge proving H he can be a main event heel :up:

[Ultimate_Superman]

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/323/mickie39ul.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)The problem is no one has the picture that lead up to that. You should have sen how deep her fingers went.

[GLfan]

The problem is no one has the picture that lead up to that. You should have sen how deep her fingers went.
You ain't kiddin, my friend was shocked because there were kids watching this stuff.

[LastSunrise1981]

Trish and Mickie need to make a lesbian porn tape. :) :up:

[Bad Superman]

Trish and Mickie need to make a lesbian porn tape. :) :up:

Yo, Last, you still around?? :D

[LastSunrise1981]

Yo, Last, you still around?? :D

Of course, I just want to see them go a little further. :) :up: :O

[Hunter Rider]

The big question is will God job to Vince

[LastSunrise1981]

The big question is will God job to Vince

Or will Vince fire God. :p ;)

[Bad Superman]

The big question is will God job to Vince

Never. ;)

[Bad Superman]

Or will Vince fire God. :p ;)

Maybe the other way around :D

[LastSunrise1981]

What's God's finishing move? :)

[Hunter Rider]

Or will Vince fire God. :p ;)
Depends if God's been in the roidshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Bad Superman]

What's God's finishing move? :)

I think it's the Power Bomb. :D :D :D

[Hunter Rider]

I think it's the Power Bomb. :D :D :D

Bah all big guys use that move:( I was hoping for a thunder driverhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/309846/375330/2006/20060403_vinceshane_hbk.jpg

[Bad Superman]

Bah all big guys use that move:( I was hoping for a thunder driverhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

He's like Barry Windham. He has tons of finishers. LOL

Remember Barry Windham's: The Claw, The Lariat, The Superplex, The Running Bulldog. I wonder what he's doing. He was a pretty good wrestler, IMO.

[Hunter Rider]

He's like Barry Windham. He has tons of finishers. LOL

Remember Barry Windham's: The Claw, The Lariat, The Superplex. I wonder what he's doing. He was a pretty good wrestler, IMO.

Windham is going to get a job as a road agent soon with WWE,he was at the HOF the other night and yes in his prime he was great:up:

[Ultimate_Superman]

What's God's finishing move? :)Something like from Mortal Kombat where you end up dead.

[Bad Superman]

Windham is going to get a job as a road agent soon with WWE,he was at the HOF the other night and yes in his prime he was great:up:

It's good to know he's still around. WWE misused him. Remember "The Widowmaker" and "The Stalker". :(

[Ultimate_Superman]

You ain't kiddin, my friend was shocked because there were kids watching this stuff.I mean I was shocked myself it is one thing to act like you rubbed it but you saw fingers go in through the pants:eek::eek::eek: I was wondering how parents will react to that. But the sad part is even without that part it was the best match of the night.

[LastSunrise1981]

I thought God's finishing move was a lightning bolt and the flood? :) :up:

I wonder if the arena is going to flood out. :p

[Mister J]

Actually, I hear that when the referee is distracted/knocked out, God calls in a swarm of locusts to finish off his opponent. Vince and Shane are screwed. :(


Good to hear about Windham though. Outside of pairing him with Mike Rotunda and getting a tag title run in the early 80's, they didn't do much with him.

[Hunter Rider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/SportsEntertainment/WM22cenastfublaaah.jpg

[Bad Superman]

Actually, I hear that when the referee is distracted/knocked out, God calls in a swarm of locusts to finish off his opponent. Vince and Shane are screwed. :(

Or maybe for a more dramatic finish, He can turn them into pillars of salt and Bear Hug them both until they crumble to pieces. :D

[Bad Superman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/SportsEntertainment/WM22cenastfublaaah.jpg

:eek: ROFL

[DOG LIPS]

DAMMIT! I was hoping 3MW would make a return. They could have given some challenge to Kane/Show. :(

[Bad Superman]

DAMMIT! I was hoping 3MW would make a return. They could have given some challenge to Kane/Show. :(

Hey at least you have Ugada (Jamal) :D

Anyone but the SPirit Squad should've taken the titles from Show and Kane.

[NDX]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/SportsEntertainment/WM22cenastfublaaah.jpg

That made up for an extremely crappy RAW.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Raw is dead to me right now

[Hunter Rider]

Dave Meltzer reports that there were a lot of cable problems around the country for Mania due to a huge deluge of late orders that the company's weren't ready for.

Entertainment Tonight filmed WrestleMania and will be airing a piece shortly.

[NDX]

Not a bad read, actually.

Bret Hart on Off the Record with Michael Landsberg
April 3, 2006
By Steve Khan

One on one segment:

Bret said it wasn't hard agreeing to do the Hall of Fame, but it was tough to do actually do it. He said there was a lot of emotion and was hard coming up with what to say given the time frame. Bret says a few days after the Screwjob, he still would've agreed to do it because he earned it. Although, when they called him to be inducted, he tried to convince himself that he wouldn't go.

Landsberg asked what it was like being around the guys again. Hart said the WWE didn't keep their promise about keeping Michaels away. Bret doesn't forgive Michaels for anything. He said it was Michaels who brought him down in a lot of ways.

Bret was honoured to have Stone Cold induct him and was having a great conversation with him. Landsberg asked what it was like when Hogan congratulated him. Bret said he and Austin didn't even look at Hogan and just brushed him off. Bret said Hogan did that to him in the 90s when Bret won his first title. He went up to Hulk to shake his hand and Hogan ignored him for five minutes until Bret walked away. He said it felt good doing it back, like saying "Kiss my ass." Hogan walked away with his tale between his legs with a puppy dog look on his face.

Bret said his speech wasn't as emotional as he thought it would be but the Eddie Guerrero induction before his sapped the emotion out of the crowd. Right before he walked through the curtain a lot of memories came back, and he wished he had more time. Bret tried to take the high road and keep it light.

Landsberg asked what Bret's legacy would be. Bret called himself an artist. Michaels may have worked a little harder, Hogan may have drawn bigger crowds, and maybe Flair lasted longer than he did, but Hart was better than all of them. He said it wasn't a night off working with Flair or Michaels, but it was a night off when people fought Bret. Steve Austin even told him that a few days ago. When Austin saw Bret's name next to his, he knew it was a night off. Bret called himself the perfect guy to work with and wishes he could've wrestled himself.

Landsberg asked if he would ever sit down with Michaels and work things out. Bret said no. Years ago before they had their fallout, they would shake hands thinking they were square, but it never accomplished anything. Michaels never gave a sincere effort to even be honest, let alone apologize. He doesn't know why Michaels claims to have ever apologized to Bret because he never has.

The panel joins the show. Paul Godfrey (CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays), Will Strickland (writer), Paul Hamilton (Buffalo Radio personality):

Topic: Who should be in charge for the Maple Leafs next season, Ferguson or Quinn? Are the younger players the answer?

Bret didn't say a word during this segment, except when Strickland said they would sell out the Air Canada Centre no matter what they do, Landsberg said Bret Hart would sell out by himself.

Quirky Fact: Bret Hart became the first wrestler to win the WWE and WCW Triple Crown. The second was also trained by Stu Hart, fellow Canadian Chris Benoit.

Topic: Should MLB leave Bonds alone?

Bret thinks it's a bit of a witch hunt and its overkill now. Paul Godfrey immediately disagreed. The rest of them argued as Bret watched again.

An emailer asked Bret which hair product he used back in the day, which Bret found funny. Answer after the commercial break...

Next Question with Bret Hart (paraphrased):

Landsberg: Best illegal object; the briefcase, the steel chair, the cane, or Mad Dog Vachon's prosthetic leg?
Hart: The leg for sure.

Landsberg: One punch on any individual; Vince, Earl Hebner or Shawn Michaels.
Hart: Shawn for sure.
Landsberg: You going to make it count?
Hart: You won't hear about him anymore.

Landsberg: Better evil laugh; Jim Neidhart or Vince McMahon.
Hart: Jim was evil, but nothing like Vince. Vince was the best.

Landsberg: Does Vince deserve and Academy Award for acting?
Hart: Not that I've seen.
Landsberg: You're not giving him any awards are you.
Hart: Not for acting.

Landsberg: Why do so many wrestlers have mullets?
Hart: I don't know, they all come from the same wrestling school?

Landsberg: Hulk Hogan, what year should he have retired?
Hart: Ten years ago.

Landsberg: Favourite Hebner; Dave or Earl?
Hart: Dave.
Landsberg: Easy one right?
Hart: Yeah.

Landsberg: How mad were you at Bad News Brown double cross at WrestleMania.
Hart: I lost a lot of sleep that one night...but I got over it pretty fast.

Landsberg: Were you afraid of Yokozuna squashing you?
Hart: Yeah I was. He did squash me a couple times.

Landsberg: Was Bob Backlund's crazy face the best ever?
Hart: Pretty close.

Landsberg: Who's the biggest ass kisser in the history of pro
wrestling?
Hart: That's a tough one...The best ass kisser I remember is Terry
Taylor. He could pucker up pretty fast.

Landsberg: What hair product did you use back in the day?
Hart: Sebastian Wet.

Landsberg: How many sunglasses did you give away and who paid for them?
Hart: WWE paid for them. I gave away thousands.

Landsberg: Do you know how much the OTR and Canadian audience loves you?
Hart: Uh, no I don't.
Landsberg: Not enough time to talk about it. Thanks Bret.

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D23WDIMJ

Kobashi vs Akiyama :up:

[Hunter Rider]

According to PWInsider.com:

Tyson Tomko is gone from World Wrestling Entertainment. According to several sources, Tomko had been told by WWE creative that he and Gene Snitsky would be put together as a tag team and given a push after Wrestlemania 22.

At last night's Raw taping in Chicago, Snitsky was paired as a tag team with Goldust for WWE.com's Heat. The pair will now be a regular undercard tandem, capitalizing on their appearance together as "freaks" in the Booker T backstage sketch at Wrestlemania 22.

Upon realizing that he was not going to get his promised push, Tomko immediately approached WWE management, informed them of his unhappiness over the situation and then requested a release. I was told this morning the request had been granted, so Tomko is done with the company.

Tomko's biggest push during his WWE run was during the time period he was seconding Christian Cage as Christian's "Problem Solver."

[nite-owl]

Maybe it won't be god on raw next week instead his son might return instead

http://www.wwefanclub.ne.jp/up_images/super/70_1.jpg

[3dman27]

Maybe it won't be god on raw next week instead his son might return instead

http://www.wwefanclub.ne.jp/up_images/super/70_1.jpg
who's that in the pic?

[Hunter Rider]

who's that in the pic?
Jesus,he was Carlito's bodyguard a while back

[3dman27]

now i remember thanks

[LastSunrise1981]

Not a bad read, actually.

Bret Hart on Off the Record with Michael Landsberg
April 3, 2006
By Steve Khan

One on one segment:

Bret said it wasn't hard agreeing to do the Hall of Fame, but it was tough to do actually do it. He said there was a lot of emotion and was hard coming up with what to say given the time frame. Bret says a few days after the Screwjob, he still would've agreed to do it because he earned it. Although, when they called him to be inducted, he tried to convince himself that he wouldn't go.

Landsberg asked what it was like being around the guys again. Hart said the WWE didn't keep their promise about keeping Michaels away. Bret doesn't forgive Michaels for anything. He said it was Michaels who brought him down in a lot of ways.

Bret was honoured to have Stone Cold induct him and was having a great conversation with him. Landsberg asked what it was like when Hogan congratulated him. Bret said he and Austin didn't even look at Hogan and just brushed him off. Bret said Hogan did that to him in the 90s when Bret won his first title. He went up to Hulk to shake his hand and Hogan ignored him for five minutes until Bret walked away. He said it felt good doing it back, like saying "Kiss my ass." Hogan walked away with his tale between his legs with a puppy dog look on his face.

Bret said his speech wasn't as emotional as he thought it would be but the Eddie Guerrero induction before his sapped the emotion out of the crowd. Right before he walked through the curtain a lot of memories came back, and he wished he had more time. Bret tried to take the high road and keep it light.

Landsberg asked what Bret's legacy would be. Bret called himself an artist. Michaels may have worked a little harder, Hogan may have drawn bigger crowds, and maybe Flair lasted longer than he did, but Hart was better than all of them. He said it wasn't a night off working with Flair or Michaels, but it was a night off when people fought Bret. Steve Austin even told him that a few days ago. When Austin saw Bret's name next to his, he knew it was a night off. Bret called himself the perfect guy to work with and wishes he could've wrestled himself.

Landsberg asked if he would ever sit down with Michaels and work things out. Bret said no. Years ago before they had their fallout, they would shake hands thinking they were square, but it never accomplished anything. Michaels never gave a sincere effort to even be honest, let alone apologize. He doesn't know why Michaels claims to have ever apologized to Bret because he never has.

The panel joins the show. Paul Godfrey (CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays), Will Strickland (writer), Paul Hamilton (Buffalo Radio personality):

Topic: Who should be in charge for the Maple Leafs next season, Ferguson or Quinn? Are the younger players the answer?

Bret didn't say a word during this segment, except when Strickland said they would sell out the Air Canada Centre no matter what they do, Landsberg said Bret Hart would sell out by himself.

Quirky Fact: Bret Hart became the first wrestler to win the WWE and WCW Triple Crown. The second was also trained by Stu Hart, fellow Canadian Chris Benoit.

Topic: Should MLB leave Bonds alone?

Bret thinks it's a bit of a witch hunt and its overkill now. Paul Godfrey immediately disagreed. The rest of them argued as Bret watched again.

An emailer asked Bret which hair product he used back in the day, which Bret found funny. Answer after the commercial break...

Next Question with Bret Hart (paraphrased):

Landsberg: Best illegal object; the briefcase, the steel chair, the cane, or Mad Dog Vachon's prosthetic leg?
Hart: The leg for sure.

Landsberg: One punch on any individual; Vince, Earl Hebner or Shawn Michaels.
Hart: Shawn for sure.
Landsberg: You going to make it count?
Hart: You won't hear about him anymore.

Landsberg: Better evil laugh; Jim Neidhart or Vince McMahon.
Hart: Jim was evil, but nothing like Vince. Vince was the best.

Landsberg: Does Vince deserve and Academy Award for acting?
Hart: Not that I've seen.
Landsberg: You're not giving him any awards are you.
Hart: Not for acting.

Landsberg: Why do so many wrestlers have mullets?
Hart: I don't know, they all come from the same wrestling school?

Landsberg: Hulk Hogan, what year should he have retired?
Hart: Ten years ago.

Landsberg: Favourite Hebner; Dave or Earl?
Hart: Dave.
Landsberg: Easy one right?
Hart: Yeah.

Landsberg: How mad were you at Bad News Brown double cross at WrestleMania.
Hart: I lost a lot of sleep that one night...but I got over it pretty fast.

Landsberg: Were you afraid of Yokozuna squashing you?
Hart: Yeah I was. He did squash me a couple times.

Landsberg: Was Bob Backlund's crazy face the best ever?
Hart: Pretty close.

Landsberg: Who's the biggest ass kisser in the history of pro
wrestling?
Hart: That's a tough one...The best ass kisser I remember is Terry
Taylor. He could pucker up pretty fast.

Landsberg: What hair product did you use back in the day?
Hart: Sebastian Wet.

Landsberg: How many sunglasses did you give away and who paid for them?
Hart: WWE paid for them. I gave away thousands.

Landsberg: Do you know how much the OTR and Canadian audience loves you?
Hart: Uh, no I don't.
Landsberg: Not enough time to talk about it. Thanks Bret.

Bret is doing some severe contradiciting then, I remember him stating many times that he never had a problem with Hogan in the WWE or in WCW. I wonder where is all of this going?

[Hunter Rider]

CM Punks appearance at WM22

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2D4ME136

[Colossal Spoons]

I was watching the now famous Mickie James crotch grab(very closely) but I don't remember seeing any finger penetration. That's not even possible through Trish's pants and we couldn't see in such detail anyway.

My friends were givin me **** about Rey being champ and how bad SD! is but look at who the new RAW tag champs are...just sad.

This "God" angle looks dumb already. I'm not even offended, just bored already. It's so tacky.

[Savage]

Well at least the spirit squad will make for some pretty awesome matches. :)

[batboy99]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/Trish_Stratus_001.jpg
oh ya

[Colossal Spoons]

I agree, but I feel WWE will just throw him into the title hunt to bank off of Batista's and Orton's Evolution history.


I'm probably the biggest Batista mark here and even I don't want him to be #1 Contender so soon. I'd like it if the Batista/Orton feud was non-title. Then he could get his face back into the picture slowly.

[batboy99]

Well at least the spirit squad will make for some pretty awesome matches. :)omg the sspirit squad are the world tag champs ahh

[Colossal Spoons]

^Spirit Squad = awesome wrestlers, lame gimmick.

[batboy99]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f111/batboy99/bbfdbs.jpg
omg

[batboy99]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6315/78hn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

Punk at his first Maniawhos car was that

[Colossal Spoons]

^Cena's. Go ahead and laugh, we all are.

[batboy99]

wow r u kidding haha lmfao

[Warhammer]

Last night's first 15 minutes of RAW was the best thing i've seen on RAW since Shawn Michaels impersonating Hulk Hogan last summer.
Seeing Edge and Triple go back and forth with jokes were pretty funny.

I still kinda feel sorry for Cena. The fans breaking kayfabe and all. I dont think its his fault for being boo'ed, but the WWE writers' fault. I kinda have respect Cena just not caring about the fans and doing his thing.

BTW, Triple H better become champion soon.

[Eric Draven]

I loved that line by Triple H "yeah, you had a victory at WM, but tell me, how many of those were in the main event again?" or something to that extent :up:

And the more I think about it, the more I love the "heel" Cena. If he went back to his old ways, he'll probably start getting cheered again and it'll be an endless cycle. If he sticks to what he's doing, he'll continually get booed.

[Addendum]

The first 9 minutes of RAW were painful.

First, you have the worst promo ever by Cena, that made Ultimate Warrior's promos look like masterpieces.

Then you have Triple H come out, and then he and Cena decide to play the quiet game and everyone loses, except for them since they're getting a paycheck for that ****.

Finally, Edge comes out and saves everyone by actually speaking, and then Trips rediscovers his voice. The best thing Cena did was standing there and seeing firsthand how to do a promo.

The second 9 minutes were great.

[Sabretooth]

I don't see how Cena is heel yet. All he did was say ''The Champ is here!'' in a cocky way,and that was it. For the most part Cena has been absolutely pathetic,especially in the weeks leading up to Wrestlemania and after. ''Yeah,I don't have 1000 different kinds of movesets,but uhm,yeah......''
I'm sorry,but Cena is and never will amount to anything unless he starts ripping into the crowd and making raps. The way he tries to get sympathy is just not the Cena I used to be a mark for.

[Addendum]

You have to understand that Cena has been in the WWE for about 5 years. He's on the 10 year learning plan

[Eric Draven]

The crowd is actually booing the hell out of him and almost asking for anybody to kick his ass and take the title from him. How does that not sound like a heel?

Yeah, sure, he may not act like the prototypical heel at the moment, but seriously, if he started doing his old stuff, the crowd will cheer for him again, then they'll turn him face and it'll be this **** all over again. I'm actually intrigue at this type of heel because it's something that's never been done before....

[Sabretooth]

Well,it's utter torture for Cena. He may have had a big smile on his face at the booing last night and at Wrestlemania,but you can tell it gets to him. At the post Wrestlemania show he looked like he was about to cry.

And to this damn day WWE still acts like it's such a mixed crowd. During his entrance on Raw take a look at how many times the camera focused on women and kids? They're not even brave enough to say the majority of the fans hate him.

And as for him going back to his old stuff,I'd much prefer it to this crap. Cena could still get booed if he goes against the right people. If they have him feud with Michaels,he'll obviously get heel heat. If he goes against RVD,he'll get booed. And if they just kept this attitude like the world revolves around him,no one would stand him.

[Eric Draven]

He'll eventually get cheered for again. Look at what happened when they did the exact same thing for the Rock. They had him acting all like the Rock of old and immediately, fans started cheering for him again. I bet the same would happen to Cena.

Right now, Cena is getting IMMENSE heel heat, probably the most he would ever get. And it's something that's a bit different. Frankly, I kinda like it.

[Sabretooth]

It would be 1000x better if he rapped. It could be a few things to poke fun at the town he's in. If he absolutely must stay face, have him rip into the crowd,but not as hardcore as he was in like 2002.

[Eric Draven]

Yeah, but honestly, who raps freestyle these days? :p It was popular back when Cena first went heel but that was almost three years ago, things change....

[Colossal Spoons]

Ripping into the crowd equals a guaranteed increase in heat and with his rapping; it'd be so easy. Heck, imagine if Rick Rude (R.I.P.) had rapped? lol

[Eric Draven]

Ripping into the crowd equals a guaranteed increase in heat and with his rapping; it'd be so easy. Heck, imagine if Rick Rude (R.I.P.) had rapped? lol

Unless the fans starting warming up to his schtick like the first time he turned face. Or when Rock went heel back in 2003 and ripped into the crowd and got cheered again.....

[Sarge 2.0]

Looking back, that three way promo plus heated crowd reaction and desperately pro-Cena commentary from Lawler all felt kind of surreal.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well Cena's got a long way to go before he's on the Rock's level. I can't bring myself to boo the Rock no matter who he's fighting; Hogan included. Sucks we're sitting here thinking of ways to salvage Cena's career.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah, but honestly, who raps freestyle these days? :p It was popular back when Cena first went heel but that was almost three years ago, things change....
Well,who dresses up like a 1930's gangster anymore? At least the rap is somewhat popular these days.


Or John Cena could completely cut the rapper thing and become an emo who comes out to a Linkin Park song. And when he's blading himself and the camera shows him doing it,at least it'd make sense. :o

[Jason Blood]

Raw was great last night except that CM Punk should have debuted last night instead of Osama and Jamal

Jamal looked like he was struggling to keep Flair up

[Addendum]

Jamal has to feed his family :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Heh, I keep thinking you all are talking to me when you say "Jamal".

[Jason Blood]

I'm really still surprised that HHH called Edge a curtain jerker

but then again he can call people jackoffs on TV when nobody else does (cena only says it when he's pretending to be HHH)

also why did HHH come out with his old music for the match?

[Twitch]

I loved that line by Triple H "yeah, you had a victory at WM, but tell me, how many of those were in the main event again?" or something to that extent :up:

And the more I think about it, the more I love the "heel" Cena. If he went back to his old ways, he'll probably start getting cheered again and it'll be an endless cycle. If he sticks to what he's doing, he'll continually get booed.

I was like Damn when Triple H said he was napping during Edge's reign. That's cold :o

[Eric Draven]

Well,who dresses up like a 1930's gangster anymore? At least the rap is somewhat popular these days.


Or John Cena could completely cut the rapper thing and become an emo who comes out to a Linkin Park song. And when he's blading himself and the camera shows him doing it,at least it'd make sense. :o

I think he's completely cut the rapper thing by now. The only thing that's remaining of the old Cena is the street clothes and the spinner....

[Addendum]

His raps were good. It covered up the fact that when he talks, it's painful

[SLYspyder]

im really curious as to how much merchandise Cena is selling for them to try and keep him as a face champion.

he needs to start rapping again. rapping will solve all his problems, he can make the crowd cheer or boo him.

and lawler needs to stfu with that "cena's getting booed because he's not a traditional wrestler" bull****.

[Twitch]

RANDY ORTON SUSPENDED BY WWE
by Mike Johnson @ 5:28:00 PM on 4/4/2006


Although details are still sketchy at this time, PWInsider.com has learned that World Wrestling Entertainment has suspended Randy Orton for 60 days. I'm not yet sure of the reason, but I hope to have more on this story later today.

5:40 PM Update: WWE issued a text message via their mobile service confirming the story, citing that Orton had been suspended for "unprofessional conduct."

It should be interesting to see what WWE does at tonight's Smackdown taping as Orton had been advertised in the main event, challenging WWE World champion Rey Mysterio.
Randy might have complained :(

[SLYspyder]

Randy might have complained :(


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO. WTF??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

randy's the main reason I tune into smackdown. dammit. he was SET for the championship, wtf are they doing suspending him "unprofessional conduct" or not.

[Sabretooth]

God dammit. That guy was playing an excellent heel leading up to Wrestlemania. This is going to kill his heat.



Just when Smackdown was starting to pick up. Just damn...... :(

[Sarge 2.0]

God I hope with Randy gone for 60 days that Kennedy is healed.

SD needs a heel like Kennedy now more than ever.

[Sabretooth]

In other news,you guys should really check out this video at wwe.com called ''Mixed Reaction'' where John Cena speaks to the fans after his match with Edge and H. He really handled the crowd and made it pretty clear a heel turn just might be in the works.

[The Ghoul]

ummmmm... that sounds vague... I smell a work.

[NDX]

If this is a work, it is by far one of the worst. Why would you do this right when you have a great match lined up for Smackdown! tonight? Seems like an ass backwards thing to do.

Might as well have Orton retire and have Jeff Jarrett follow him around with a camera until he returns.

[Eric Draven]

Orton has always had a behavioral problem. I think he was one of the reasons why that diva who was JBL's cabinet quit (I forget her name). I think he pulled a Scott Hall special or something like that. I think it was also one of the reasons why they brought in Cowboy Bob Orton last year....

[Hunter Rider]

It's not a work,i think it has something to do with his altercation with fans outside the press conference

As for Cena the rap is dead,it worked as a heel because fans were laughing at the whiteboy rapping,now as a face it is a joke,right now humble Cena is awesome at getting heel heat while playing a face
The triple threat with him,Edge and HHH is the most exciting title program in ages

One big difference between him and the Rock is the Rock was great in the ring,his talent was never why he was booed,a large part of Cena's boo's come from the fact he is a very mediocre worker

[punishermax]

Wow. If this isn't a work, Randy must have done something really bad, since he is the main heel on SD now.

[Eric Draven]

I guess this means Kurt Angle is turning heel again.....

[punishermax]

Why couldn't he have been suspended after next week when I go to SD. Mother ****er!!!!

[PepS]

Pssst... Nice avatar and title :D

[Addendum]

Cena's getting booed because he's not a traditional wrestler?

I think the reason Cena gets booed is because a kid who has been in the WWE for about 5 years, and made his TV debut 4 years ago is getting an insane push that normally guys have to work their asses off for.

Bret Hart became champ in '92. He made his wrestling debut in 1976.

Steve Austin became champ in '98. He made his debut in 1989.

Shawn Michaels became champ in '96. He made his debut in 1988.

The Undertaker became champ in '91. He made his debut in 1984.

Mick Foley became champ in '98. He made his debut in 1983.

While they didn't all debut in the WWF the year they entered wrestling, they all did their share of jobbing, honing their skills, making a name, and gaining respect.

[NDX]

Tomko looks to hone his skills during “lull” in WWE career
By Evan Denbaum
April 4, 2006

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/344364/120tomko.jpgSoon after the official announcement on WWE’s new moble alert system that WWE and Tyson Tomko had come to terms on his release, WWE.com spoke with Tomko via cell phone to get the whole story and ask where he goes from here:

WWE.com: Is it true that you requested your release from WWE to go work in Japan?

Tyson Tomko: That’s correct.

WWE.com: What prompted that decision?

Tomko: It was a mutual agreement between me and WWE. I talked to WWE officials and there’s not anything going on with me right now. So, rather than sit around, I’m taking matters into my own hands. I’m going to go over to Japan. I’ve always admired the style there — the brutality. I’m a big fan of Bruiser Brody. And I just want to go over there and experience that. And while there’s a lull in my career here at WWE, I decided to take the opportunity to go over to Japan and hone my skills.

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WWE.com: Do you feel you were underutilized or improperly used in WWE?


Tomko: I think it’s easy to say that “I was underutilized,” but I think what would be more politically correct to say is that you underutilized yourself. I think I can and will be a bigger asset to this company.

WWE.com: What kind of opportunity would you need in WWE to show that you can be a bigger asset?

Tomko: I don’t think it was anything I was doing. The bottom line is that people sit by sometimes — and I’ve seen it happen to a handful of guys — where they just sit around and don’t do anything about their career. But I know I can be a top-caliber athlete for this company. I just think that rather than sit around and wait for the opportunity, I’m going to take it. Instead of waiting around for a handout, I’m going to go make my opportunity. Then, I’m going to come back and there’s going to be no question as to my ability at that point.

WWE.com: Do you have any plans finalized for wrestling with a particular promotion in Japan?

Tomko: There’s nothing completely finalized. I have been in talks as recently as this morning, and there had been e-mail communication. So, I can’t go on record as of this point, but I’m definitely — with 100 percent certainty — going to be appearing in Japan within the next couple of months.

WWE.com: Looking back, how do you feel about your time in WWE?

Tomko: Very positive. I think I’ve gone out on a good note and everything I’ve done here had been a testament to my abilities. I think that if I went any further without doing what I’m doing, then it could have jeopardized my stature, if you will. So, I’m going to take a step backward and go five steps forward.

WWE.com: So, you feel you’re leaving WWE on good terms where you might return in the future?

Tomko: Absolutely. I shook hands with Vince McMahon yesterday afternoon as I was leaving, and I believe the exact saying was: “The door is wide open.”

WWE.com: So it doesn’t sound like there are any hard feelings.

Tomko: None whatsoever. The company as a whole was fantastic to me. I’m not bitter in any way. This is just something that I wanted to do, and I’m just fortunate that there was a lull in what I was doing where I was able to go to Japan while not taking away from what WWE was doing with me. I came from being a bodyguard for a rock band, so I never got the opportunity to go work in areas like Japan or the independents or anything like that. And I want to experience that. So, while there was an opportunity, I decided to do this thing. I’ll come back, and when I come back I’ll be bigger than ever.

WWE.com: What were your favorite moments during your time in WWE?

Tomko: I have a few favorites. I had an opportunity to wrestle with Chris Benoit a few times. I also wrestled with Hulk Hogan in a six-man tag-team match with Christian and Chris Jericho as my partners and John Cena, HBK and Hulk Hogan as my opponents. That’s a match that I was really fortunate to be a part of. Also, I got the opportunity to face Ric Flair. Those are all points in my career where I would have never thought those opportunities would present themselves, and they did. I’m very fortunate and grateful for that.

WWE.com: There are going to be a lot of WWE Superstars who will read this on WWE.com today. Do you have any message for anyone you didn’t get a chance to speak to one-on-one before your departure?

Tomko: I just want to say to everybody I had an opportunity to work with in WWE, if I didn’t personally thank them, I’d like to thank them now. In times to come, we will definitely have a future meeting — and hopefully I’ll be on the good end of it. Because when and if I do come back to this company, any Superstar in my way, I’m going to take him out.

[Jason Blood]

Randy Orton has been suspended for 60 days!

[Sarge 2.0]

Heh, we know. :p

[Jason Blood]

Heh, we know. :p

-_-

that was disbelief :(

I've never really seen anything like this announced in wrestling before


they usually handle this in another matter (like dropping a superstar), the WWE isn't screwing around with Orton this time

[Jason Blood]

ROFL!

Gamefaqs people have started calling the Spirit Squad the Ginyu Force

:D:D:D

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/unlimited/

scroll to the bottom anc check Cena's mic work after the show went off air

[NDX]

Maybe WWE will push Paul Burchill in Orton's place, our first Swashbuckling Main Eventer.

:D

[Jason Blood]

Maybe WWE will push Paul Burchill in Orton's place, our first Swashbuckling Main Eventer.

:D
hell yeah!

Did you guys already mention the WWE has signed Harry Smith?

[Eric Draven]

hell yeah!

Did you guys already mention the WWE has signed Harry Smith?

No, but I read about it on another board somewhere. It was a signing that was bound to happen eventually. This might be the guy who could carry on the Hart tradition, especially since Teddy Hart is pretty out there :confused:

[NDX]

hell yeah!

Did you guys already mention the WWE has signed Harry Smith?

I hadn't read that yet. That is some very good news. It was inevitable that he's be signed, indeed. Although with Burchill seperated from Regal, there goes the once mentioned British Trio.

Has anyone seen Harry Smith wrestle yet?

[Mister J]

Can't believe this Randy thing, especially seeing as how they hyped up the ME on Smackdown. He by far is the best heel on SD right now. Like someone said earlier, this probably means Kurt turns heel again, which fortunately he's damn good at.

[Jason Blood]

I just realized this is wrestling related

I've been wearing my Matt Hardy shirt to school a lot and today is the third time this year the same cop has asked me about the shirt

he's only interested in the front each time and he asks me what it means every time

just 8 more weeks and I'm out of school for good

[TheVileOne]

FYI,

Orton has a reputation of unprofessional behavior.

He was the main reason that Amy Weber quit.

[Jason Blood]

FYI,

Orton has a reputation of unprofessional behavior.

He was the main reason that Amy Weber quit.
everybody knows that

right?

[LastSunrise1981]

Is it me or is Triple H looking more like Lemmy Kilmister with each appearance?

[Addendum]

As long as Trips doesn't start growing warts... it's just you

[LastSunrise1981]

As long as Trips doesn't start growing warts... it's just you

Well forget about the warts. I mean seriously, he's looking like a young Lemmy Kilmister and it's actually quite scary. But that's just my opinion at this moment. :)

[Savage]

Yeah, he's a big fan obviously so maybe it's kind of a nod...A big ass nod but a nod nontheless...Man I want that beard.:( Girlfriend catches a fit about it though.

[LastSunrise1981]

I have that beard as a matter fact. Only problem is going to the barber shop every week to keep it shaped, trimmed, and cleaned up.

But I sport the Lemmy beard all the time. I've always been a big Motorhead fan and loved how bad ass Lemmy looked.

They said his look is a nod to Lemmy and Harley Race.

[batboy99]

how about we get into some divas disscussion

[Sabretooth]

Not much to talk about there. The ones that can actually wrestle (Victoria,Melina,Jillian) are only used as valets while Maria and Torrie still get to wrestle. They're hot,yeah,but the most wrestling those two should do is mud wrestling.

[Eric Draven]

Sexcellent, I found a 2 minute version of Triple H's new theme :cool:

[Prognosticator]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO. WTF??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

randy's the main reason I tune into smackdown. dammit. he was SET for the championship, wtf are they doing suspending him "unprofessional conduct" or not.

OMFG!!!! Just another reason SD sucks @$$! This is rediculous!! I was just about to "resubscribe" to SD for the #1 reason that Orton has been fantastic entertainment, and a great heel on top of it! Don't wrestlers complain all the time???

[NDX]

Sexcellent, I found a 2 minute version of Triple H's new theme :cool:

Share the wealth my friend, share the wealth.

[punishermax]

Sexcellent, I found a 2 minute version of Triple H's new theme :cool:

Yeah, its the one from Raw where we actually got hear it for more than a minute, still good though.

[punishermax]

Share the wealth my friend, share the wealth.

Here ya go. Triple H is a god! (http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd2/31944/Triple%20H%20-%20King%20Of%20Kings.mp3)

Save target As:up:

[Addendum]

Much better than "The Game"

[punishermax]

Smackdown Spoilers

Credit: PWInsider.com

Smackdown Taping
Peoria, Illinois

Dark Matches:

1. The Gymini (w/ Simon Dean) defeated CM Punk and Sterling James Keenan by pinfall.

2. Matt Hardy defeated Colt Cabana after the Twist of Fate. The crowd popped huge for Hardy's music. I guess the sound guy took notice, because he accidentally started playing his theme at the count of 2. My friend Justin thought he heard it before that time, but I didn't. After the match, Animal came out and destroyed Hardy with a chairshot against the ringpost.

Matthews and Romero come out, so I assume that this is Velocity. They'd had the side Trons with the Velocity logo on them since I'd walked in the building.

Velocity:

1. Fit Finlay defeated Psychosis by pinfall. Since I haven't really ever seen much of Finlay, I was pleased and shocked with how stiff he works. After the match, I believe it was Johnny Ace who drove the Juan Deere backstage. So if any of you were wondering who did that, it's him.

2. Kid Kash & Jamie Noble defeated Scotty 2 Hotty and Funaki with a spear/clothesline combination on Funaki, scoring the pin. There were a lot of boos for Scotty.

3. Bobby Lashley (Chimmel kept his first name here, not sure about Finlay) defeated Vito after his version of the Dominator.

The SmackDown pyro went off after a few minutes and we were set for our first match...

1. Brian Kendrick & Paul London defeated MNM by pinfall after a quick roll-up. This match had a lot of near-falls and was pretty fast-paced, compared to the rest of the night.

Backstage, Booker T and Sharmell bounded into Teddy Long's office after Teddy got off the phone. Long inquired as to why Booker was so happy, and Booker said that they'd gotten a restraining order against Boogeyman. Long wasn't too happy.

2. Gunther Scott (maybe Gunner, I don't know. But if Chris Kanyon is looking for a stunt-double, this is the guy) defeated Booker T by a roll-up after Boogey's music started to play. No Boogeyman in Peoria, though.

After the match, Teddy Long came out and made fun of the "music miscue." Once again, Long announced the winner to rub it in Booker's face.

Backstage, Benoit pumped up this Scott guy.

3. Chris Benoit defeated Simon Dean after using the Crippler Crossface.

Still with Benoit in the ring, a promo aired for JBL about how he's going to have some "Great American" celebration next week. After this, Teddy Long announced there would be a cage match to close out the show, and I assume that won't be on television.

Backstage, Kurt Angle stares down Randy Orton pumping up. A video played before the break with Orton in it, too, so I thought that was kind of weird. I also thought it was odd that Orton was still on the show, despite his 60-day suspension. Anyway, Orton gets *****-smacked by Kurt Angle and Angle screams "YEAH!" two times.

4. Rey Mysterio defeated Randy Orton after using two consecutive 619s and a West Coast Pop leg drop. The first was on the ring post, and then the other on the ropes. This was honestly a slow match. Slow-paced with quite a few restholds, I thought.

On the screen, Palmer Cannon says the network does not endorse the following...

A Miz promo!

Backstage, Kristal interviews Rey. Rey says he wants to say "thank you." My suspicion was correct in that I HAD heard boos during the title match when Mysterio came out, because they booed him a lot during this promo. He brought in his family too.

More backstage - William Regal goes up to Pirate Paul and tries to smooth things over. He wants to give Paul another chance. They argue over Paul's choice of attire and Paul makes a deal - if Regal wins, Regal can make Paul wear whatever he wants. If Paul wins, Regal would "make for a buxom wench."

5. Pirate Paul defeated William Regal after the C4. I'd never seen the C4 since I rarely have a chance to watch SmackDown, and I missed most of it because I was fiddling around with deleting the crappy pictures off my camera.

In Long's office, several members of the roster were assembled. Long said that the KING OF THE RING!~ tournament would be coming back, and that our first match next week would be...Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton!

Mark Henry cut a promo. I really couldn't tell you about what it was, since I was too busy starting a successful "WHAT?!" chant. But with respect to Henry, he ran with it and let us have our fun after the frustration went away.

6. Undertaker vs. Mark Henry goes to a no-contest, I guess. Undertaker had taken Henry outside and was doing some damage until Daivari marched to the ring with Dalip Singh from Deep South Wrestling, who puts a beating on the Undertaker. The Deadman stays down as this monster raises his arms and holds them, sets them down, holds them up again, and repeats the process a few more times. Why? I don't know. Finally they leave, and Undertaker slowly walks back.

While they set up the cage, they aired videos on the troops and on the Divas.

DARK MATCH:

JBL defeated Chris Benoit to retain the United States title in a steel cage match. I couldn't believe all the people that had left while setting the cage up, and the little reaction the whole match got. A few minutes into the match JBL did the little Eddie dance and pointed up, but the fans booed what I thought was a nice little tribute. JBL put the 3 Amigos on Benoit, and Benoit came back with 3 of his own. A FINE-looking Jillian Hall got involved by distracting the ref as JBL tied Benoit to the top of the cage with the tag rope. Benoit struggled, but JBL ran out the door and back to his limo, which I think passed me a few minutes away from the arena (sans horns & insignia). After JBL's music played, Benoit's played as he sucked in more adulation from the fans.

Overall, it was a pretty good show. I think that there could have been a promo or two to keep some Wrestlemania steam, at least from Angle anyway. And speaking of Angle, I'm surprised he wasn't involved in the show more than he was. If you see me, I'll be holding the "www.EWCOMMUNITY.com" sign off from the far right corner (on the screen). I think I might be on a few times.

Some notes about the Peoria Civic Center in Peoria, Illinois...

-Not a lot was tarped off - about 6 sections to the right of the hard camera (if you're standing at the camera).

-More people were in the upper bowl on the side the camera was facing. I assume they might've moved some people around beforehand.

[Colossal Spoons]

OMFG!!!! Just another reason SD sucks @$$! This is rediculous!! I was just about to "resubscribe" to SD for the #1 reason that Orton has been fantastic entertainment, and a great heel on top of it! Don't wrestlers complain all the time???


How the F does that imply that SD! sucks? WWE management suspended him, not Teddy Long. I think you're just hating SD for the sake of doing it.

Much better than "The Game"

I dunno. I listen to his old theme in the gym and it's motivation like no other.

[punishermax]

How the F does that imply that SD! sucks? WWE management suspended him, not Teddy Long. I think you're just hating SD for the sake of doing it.



I dunno. I listen to his old theme in the gym and it's motivation like no other.

I think most people hate on Smackdown because they think that what everyone else thinks. That its the "B" Show.

[punishermax]

I dunno. I listen to his old theme in the gym and it's motivation like no other.

It's also awesome to sing while drunk. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I think most people hate on Smackdown because they think that what everyone else thinks. That its the "B" Show.

Well right now, the B show doesn't have 2 jokes for tag champs and "God" on the roster. :down:

It's also awesome to sing while drunk. :up:

I sing it sober but I'll give it a whirl lol.

[Mister J]

I dunno. I listen to his old theme in the gym and it's motivation like no other.
I'm with you on that. I pump it loud at the start of my workout.

It's also awesome to sing while drunk. :up:

Might have to try that.

[Colossal Spoons]

^I recommend the Hardy Boyz theme and that Powerman 5000 song "Drop The Bombshell" that the Dudleys used to use as well.

[Hunter Rider]

Wait till Sarge and the Batman see those SD main event spoilers:(

Looks like another great show with MNM vs Spanky/London and the return of KOTR as well as Brent Albright debuting and Rey vs Orton

Sad to hear Rey is getting booed:(

Thanks for HHH's theme Punishermax:up: the chords remind me a bit of Enter The Sandman

[Twitch]

I'm not picking on Rey but he only has the title because of Eddie death and the fans know that.

I watched Rey vs. Eddie from Halloween Havoc 97 on youtube yesterday :up:

[3dman27]

Smackdown Spoilers

Credit: PWInsider.com

Smackdown Taping
Peoria, Illinois

Dark Matches:

1. The Gymini (w/ Simon Dean) defeated CM Punk and Sterling James Keenan by pinfall.

2. Matt Hardy defeated Colt Cabana after the Twist of Fate. The crowd popped huge for Hardy's music. I guess the sound guy took notice, because he accidentally started playing his theme at the count of 2. My friend Justin thought he heard it before that time, but I didn't. After the match, Animal came out and destroyed Hardy with a chairshot against the ringpost.

Matthews and Romero come out, so I assume that this is Velocity. They'd had the side Trons with the Velocity logo on them since I'd walked in the building.

Velocity:

1. Fit Finlay defeated Psychosis by pinfall. Since I haven't really ever seen much of Finlay, I was pleased and shocked with how stiff he works. After the match, I believe it was Johnny Ace who drove the Juan Deere backstage. So if any of you were wondering who did that, it's him.

2. Kid Kash & Jamie Noble defeated Scotty 2 Hotty and Funaki with a spear/clothesline combination on Funaki, scoring the pin. There were a lot of boos for Scotty.

3. Bobby Lashley (Chimmel kept his first name here, not sure about Finlay) defeated Vito after his version of the Dominator.

The SmackDown pyro went off after a few minutes and we were set for our first match...

1. Brian Kendrick & Paul London defeated MNM by pinfall after a quick roll-up. This match had a lot of near-falls and was pretty fast-paced, compared to the rest of the night.

Backstage, Booker T and Sharmell bounded into Teddy Long's office after Teddy got off the phone. Long inquired as to why Booker was so happy, and Booker said that they'd gotten a restraining order against Boogeyman. Long wasn't too happy.

2. Gunther Scott (maybe Gunner, I don't know. But if Chris Kanyon is looking for a stunt-double, this is the guy) defeated Booker T by a roll-up after Boogey's music started to play. No Boogeyman in Peoria, though.

After the match, Teddy Long came out and made fun of the "music miscue." Once again, Long announced the winner to rub it in Booker's face.

Backstage, Benoit pumped up this Scott guy.

3. Chris Benoit defeated Simon Dean after using the Crippler Crossface.

Still with Benoit in the ring, a promo aired for JBL about how he's going to have some "Great American" celebration next week. After this, Teddy Long announced there would be a cage match to close out the show, and I assume that won't be on television.

Backstage, Kurt Angle stares down Randy Orton pumping up. A video played before the break with Orton in it, too, so I thought that was kind of weird. I also thought it was odd that Orton was still on the show, despite his 60-day suspension. Anyway, Orton gets *****-smacked by Kurt Angle and Angle screams "YEAH!" two times.

4. Rey Mysterio defeated Randy Orton after using two consecutive 619s and a West Coast Pop leg drop. The first was on the ring post, and then the other on the ropes. This was honestly a slow match. Slow-paced with quite a few restholds, I thought.

On the screen, Palmer Cannon says the network does not endorse the following...

A Miz promo!

Backstage, Kristal interviews Rey. Rey says he wants to say "thank you." My suspicion was correct in that I HAD heard boos during the title match when Mysterio came out, because they booed him a lot during this promo. He brought in his family too.

More backstage - William Regal goes up to Pirate Paul and tries to smooth things over. He wants to give Paul another chance. They argue over Paul's choice of attire and Paul makes a deal - if Regal wins, Regal can make Paul wear whatever he wants. If Paul wins, Regal would "make for a buxom wench."

5. Pirate Paul defeated William Regal after the C4. I'd never seen the C4 since I rarely have a chance to watch SmackDown, and I missed most of it because I was fiddling around with deleting the crappy pictures off my camera.

In Long's office, several members of the roster were assembled. Long said that the KING OF THE RING!~ tournament would be coming back, and that our first match next week would be...Kurt Angle vs. Randy Orton!

Mark Henry cut a promo. I really couldn't tell you about what it was, since I was too busy starting a successful "WHAT?!" chant. But with respect to Henry, he ran with it and let us have our fun after the frustration went away.

6. Undertaker vs. Mark Henry goes to a no-contest, I guess. Undertaker had taken Henry outside and was doing some damage until Daivari marched to the ring with Dalip Singh from Deep South Wrestling, who puts a beating on the Undertaker. The Deadman stays down as this monster raises his arms and holds them, sets them down, holds them up again, and repeats the process a few more times. Why? I don't know. Finally they leave, and Undertaker slowly walks back.

While they set up the cage, they aired videos on the troops and on the Divas.

DARK MATCH:

JBL defeated Chris Benoit to retain the United States title in a steel cage match. I couldn't believe all the people that had left while setting the cage up, and the little reaction the whole match got. A few minutes into the match JBL did the little Eddie dance and pointed up, but the fans booed what I thought was a nice little tribute. JBL put the 3 Amigos on Benoit, and Benoit came back with 3 of his own. A FINE-looking Jillian Hall got involved by distracting the ref as JBL tied Benoit to the top of the cage with the tag rope. Benoit struggled, but JBL ran out the door and back to his limo, which I think passed me a few minutes away from the arena (sans horns & insignia). After JBL's music played, Benoit's played as he sucked in more adulation from the fans.

Overall, it was a pretty good show. I think that there could have been a promo or two to keep some Wrestlemania steam, at least from Angle anyway. And speaking of Angle, I'm surprised he wasn't involved in the show more than he was. If you see me, I'll be holding the "www.EWCOMMUNITY.com" sign off from the far right corner (on the screen). I think I might be on a few times.

Some notes about the Peoria Civic Center in Peoria, Illinois...

-Not a lot was tarped off - about 6 sections to the right of the hard camera (if you're standing at the camera).

-More people were in the upper bowl on the side the camera was facing. I assume they might've moved some people around beforehand.
isn't smackdown taped on tuesday if orton was susened after tuesday THATS why he was there they can say he was sespended AFTER the show aired

[Mister J]

I can't believe they booed Rey; kinda came out of nowhere (unless I missed something).

I think he's gonna be a transitional champ to set up Angle/Orton. Of course, if this suspension thing has any teeth, all that goes out the window.

[Sarge 2.0]

Wait till Sarge and the Batman see those SD main event spoilers:( Taker is going to die. :(

[3dman27]

I can't believe they booed Rey; kinda came out of nowhere (unless I missed something).

I think he's gonna be a transitional champ to set up Angle/Orton. Of course, if this suspension thing has any teeth, all that goes out the window.
apearantly the fans think the wwe and rey are milking eddie's death thats why he got the title shot

[Mister J]

apearantly the fans think the wwe and rey are milking eddie's death thats why he got the title shot

Oh, no doubt they're milking it. It wasn't a coincidence that Vickie and Chavo just happened to be on the ramp after Rey won.

I just thought it came out of nowhere. I don't recall booing when Peanut Long announced the Triple Threat with Rey in the ring (as a matter of fact, the crowd was pretty stoked). It was the same with everything leading up to the match. Plus, the crowd was pretty hot for Chavo during his 'dedication match' with Shelton. I haven't seen that match at Mania, but I doubt they booed him there either.

They need to leave Eddie out of the storylines.

[3dman27]

yes they are disrespcting the deas intentionally or not maybs THAT ISwhy chavo quit the other day,in protest

[The Techno Bat]

Even before Eddie's untimely death wasn't Rey going to be getting a run at the title and carrying for awhile anyway? For some reason the fans in Chicago are messed up with who they cheer for and who they boo, that is all I gotta say about that! (of course they are entitled to there opinion and I have no problem with that)

[Assassin]

I was personally bored to hear that WM23 will be in...Detroit??? (sad sound effect) I mean, they just had the Superbowl there and it just doesn't sound like an exciting city to have it in right now...
ohh yea..I told you so.

And for you..STFU, you're just jelous:o

[Ultimate_Superman]

They need to have it in DC

[Assassin]

There is nothing smart about royally screwing over one of the best heel performers of the past 5 years just so another performer can do the job for Cena and Batista.

How many ppl has HHH screwed over just so he could be the longest running champ?

he's th ereason why Edge lost, he told vince he wants Cena at WM not Edge.

Plus, the bussiness will be his in a few years anyways, and he's had the belt long enough.

[Sarge 2.0]

Edge seems to back in the running now, though. And Shane will get the company before Trips.

[Assassin]

Detroit has one of the best wrestling crowds ever..remember, we invented the WHAT? chant.

And Survivor series was the first time a whole crowd booed cena

[Hunter Rider]

HHH vs Cena turned out to be the right choice,no other athlete would have gotten the perfect anti booking reaction the way HHH did and it's all worked out cos Edge stole the show anyway and is back in the title mix


oh and the WHAT ? chant is nothing to be proud of it sucked after 5 minutes:(

[Hunter Rider]

Taker is going to die. :(

I'm surprised Taker agreed,i wonder if they are gonna use a son of Gonzales angle:confused:

[The FallenAngel]

Yeah, that guy is gonna kill Taker... :( SD! just dropped a bit because of this guy, and if he gets a push, which I'm sure he will, it will only be bad news for them.

[Assassin]

I highly doubt it. It can't keep my attention for ONE HOUR...and I try week after week!

LOL

Me too

[Assassin]

HHH vs Cena turned out to be the right choice,no other athlete would have gotten the perfect anti booking reaction the way HHH did and it's all worked out cos Edge stole the show anyway and is back in the title mix


oh and the WHAT ? chant is nothing to be proud of it sucked after 5 minutes:(

But yet it is still used :confused:

[Gotenks]

It makes no sense. A SD! superstar won the Rumble,and Raw has main evented for the past what,4 years? Give me a break.

I always thought raw was the main event every year since they split into raw and smackdown

[Hunter Rider]

But yet it is still used :confused:
lots of ****ty things that should die are still used in wrestling like Hulk Hogan for instance:o

[Assassin]

But the what chant will live on forever!

any who, like i said, many good things have happened in Detroit for the WWE.

I'm not gonna pull out my list, but i hopw there's a Rock vs Cena, or a Rock Vs Orton match at WM23,

Rock vs Cena, best Promos
Rock vs Orton, 3gen vs 3gen

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, that guy is gonna kill Taker... :( SD! just dropped a bit because of this guy, and if he gets a push, which I'm sure he will, it will only be bad news for them.

I think he must be safer than was thought after some OVW development if taker is willing to work with him,i mean Taker has a lot of stroke,no way he works this giant if he is a danger to him

[Hunter Rider]

But the what chant will live on forever!

any who, like i said, many good things have happened in Detroit for the WWE.

I'm not gonna pull out my list, but i hopw there's a Rock vs Cena, or a Rock Vs Orton match at WM23,

Rock vs Cena, best Promos
Rock vs Orton, 3gen vs 3gen

Well i like the idea of this big dome in Detroit but Hogan will live longer than that chant brotha!

[Assassin]

Cena vs Rock promos would rule..

[The FallenAngel]

I think he must be safer than was thought after some OVW development if taker is willing to work with him,i mean Taker has a lot of stroke,no way he works this giant if he is a danger to himI'm sure he's had some proper training now, and Taker feels ok working with him. But have you seen this dude wrestle? He's one of the worst wrestlers I've ever seen. I understand he's a big guy, but so is Show, and he is pretty damn good. This dude just plain sucks.